Hawks

By terrell barron

March 17, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Sekou, like I said before, if Woody can get this team to .500, I’ll be selling those give Woody an extension T-shirts. They’ll have to go 12-3. Hey Clyde, can I get your adresss? I’ll mail you one. lol! I think he’s finally just letting the guys play ball, and they seem to be having fun, while they’re at it. Woody finally gets his day in the sun, but how long will it last? I have’nt even seen a new episode of the Woody Woodpecker show.

By kwooden1

March 17, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

I finally got a chance to watch a Hawks game in person (I live in the Washington DC area) and caught them on a night where they probably can’t play much better. Bibby hit several big shots, but everyone was making opens shots tonight. (Chills hit 2 Threes!) The Hawks were great on the boards and executed the pick and roll pretty well. Acie is coming around and I’m glad to see Woodson put him back in the game after having a tough stretch in the second quarter. I even saw Woody encourage Josh Smith after he got his 4th foul early in the 3rd and he had to sit on the bench. Woody even got Mario in during the three quarter to play some good defense. Great game for the Hawks, definitely the best I’ve seen them play. (But I’ve only seen about 6 games, radio really doesn’t count) It looks like JJ has decided to really step-up and the guys have followed. Great defense by Chills and JS tonight also. Keep working hard and great win on the road.

GO HAWKS!!

By cp

March 17, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

I think they have finally clicked. Well I at least hope so. Tonight’s game was probably one of the few times where the opposing team made a run but I still felt confident that this team would hold on and pull off the win. I still think the X factor will be Duck. If his shot is not falling he has to hit the glass hard and play some stellar defense. If the bench can come in and play consistent and not allow the other team to go on big runs then I think we will be fine. Mike Knapp actually had a good game plan. It looked like he recognized matchups and made some adjustments and he just allowed guys to play through their mistakes which is something he really does not do. Like I said on the previous blog, if we can win our remaining games against the Bulls and Nets and maybe steal a few from the teams with winning records then I think we can easily make the playoffs. The guys just have to remember what they are fighting for and come out with this type of energy and intensity from now on. We dont need any more lackluster performances.

By Joe Bling

March 17, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

You can’t put too much stock in beating the Clippers, Knicks and Wizards - but you have to like the positive indicators. Perhaps most important, they’ve won two road games in a row. That, as much as anything, could be a sign of good things to come for this team.

Not to throw water on the spark, but we can’t forget these are the Hawks. Some drama or setback is surely lurking around the corner. God, can we please just put all that stuff behind us and just get it going for once? Can we please just run off a 10-game winning streak, please, for once?

By terrell barron

March 17, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this

Lets trade Horford and Acie for Noah and Sean Williams. Thanks, but no thanks, Clyde. Just giving you a hard time man, but you know that s** was ridiculous.

By terrell barron

March 17, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

Just 4 games out of the 6th spot. O.K. I’m getting a little carried away.

By Clyde

March 17, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this

terrell barron You won’t be saying that when the Hawks get swept by the Celtics in the first round of the playoffs. If they even make it. Lets not get our hopes up to high folks. Atlanta fans are so gullible.

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By Chikara

March 18, 2008 12:31 AM | Link to this

Clyde Give it a rest ok? This team hasn’t caved in the season and we fans need to be as supportive as possible as they head down the stretch.

I was at the game shouting the whole time, I almost lost my voice. Horford had one of those games that should convince the voters he should be Rookie of the Year. JJ was great distributing, and Bibby showed than when he’s on the rest of the team can follow suit.

I was frustrated at times with some of the careless turnovers (Josh Smith really needs to work on his handles in the offseason) but a great game overall, especially how they responded when the Wiz kept coming back with the threes.

drmaryb sorry I didn’t respond to your post last time girl, but yeah me and my friends had a great time. richbrave and JohnGTfan were you there too?

Well not much time to celebrate, the Hawks have to get ready to play their biggest game of the season on Wednesday against New Jersey, so they better have their game face on.

Ciao guys (and gals) ;)

By BA

March 18, 2008 12:42 AM | Link to this

First off, Clyde- your credibility is SHOT after that Noah crap. Give credit where credit is due. Washington has a much better record than us and we dominated them tonight. Woodson DID coach well tonight. Billy Knight made a great move to get Bibby for T.Lue and a hill of beans. It has taken time, but clearly they have turned a corner. Salim Fan, Salim is comparable to Iverson? PLEASE! The current win streak has a lot to do with A.C. taking care of the ball, as opposed to your boy kicking it around and turning it over. And yes, as much as I HATE those Smoove jumpers, I’ll take the height and stellar defense anytime. Salim is a third stringer in this league, period. Big Al is balling out of control, CLYDE! Somebody pass that mouthbreather Clyde another plate of crowe…

By woodsonsucks

March 18, 2008 2:07 AM | Link to this

Chikara Josh Smith didn’t have any turnovers. Also, the Hawks only had 11 turnovers. I think Richbrave, you and drmaryb are some fakes also. I think you all probably work for the AJC. How can you claim to be at the game and make that statement?

By ray

March 18, 2008 2:09 AM | Link to this

Today in the news:

Apparently the dyslexic A$$ Bandit is still on the loose. Chances are, he will show up to criticize my commentary. Ah well, you gotta have some kind of feedback, right?

No joke Joe. Tell me this guy isn’t on a mission. He’s still not a bark-at-your-teammates kind of guy, but who cares about that when he’s in such relentless attack mode? While several have criticized him for not being a leader and not stepping up his game (and rightfully so in some cases), he has done more than step. He has taken a bit of a leap. In a game where he manages only 18 points (8-20 on FGs), he still drew the defense on the regular and got ten dimes in the process. And just think, lately, that would qualify as his second worst game. In the last 10 games, Joe’s worst game was a 9 point outing. Including that game, he’s averaged a frog’s hair under 26ppg. He must have playoff fever or something. Either way, that’s mad production and a joy to watch. Now, imagine if he actually got some calls…I mean really. Last night he goes to the charity stripe for ONE FREE THROW. As many times as I saw him charge into the lane, he only went to the line ONCE…for ONE FREE THROW? It’s a damn conspiracy man….

Charge! Finally, we see Marvin going to the basket more consistently. He’s still not converting all that much, but he’s getting there and he’s usually a fairly decent free throw shooter. You have to wonder where all of this going to the rack stuff was the other three quarters of the season? Ah well, you know what they say: better late than never. Maybe he can practice converting And 1s in the offseason.

Speaking of conversion, I’m worried about this summer. Why? Because one of our best basket converters is none other than Josh Childress. You can talk about how ugly and unnatural this guy’s jump shot is. Lord knows it is ugly. But what can you say about a skinny kid who shoots damn near 60% from the field and will reliably get you a 3-pointer or two from the corner every now and again. 12 points a game with maybe 2 plays per game that are actually run for him? Man, Childress is the bomb, YO! Check it out:

J-Chill grabs rebounds like a crack-head after somebody else’s food stamps!

J-Chill runs routes like Jerry Rice!

J-Chill goes back-door more times than Kobe in Eagle Rock, Colorado….oh wait…that’s not right…my bad.

Uh…anyway, what I’m trying to say is, I have a strong suspicion that somebody’s going to offer Josh Childress a contract this offseason. It might not be of Josh Smith proportions, but it won’t be small either. Somebody sees this guy as their starter. Book it. Or don’t…I don’t have any money riding on it myself.

Lost:The Television Series. I have an idea for a new member of the cast. His name is Zaza Pachulia. Nobody could be more LOST than he is. I actually feel kind of bad for the guy. But with Wright and the Forehead of Doom gone, he’s had all the opportunity he could use to produce. Instead, he makes Woody want to keep Horford out there for 48 minutes. What a shame…

Speaking of foreheads, I’ll bet Sheldon Williams could knock out a brahma bull just by head-butting it. Watch out Sacramento…if your livestock begins to drop for no apparent reason…it ain’t mad cow disease…

Be-moaning the past. Yes, I know we are ALL sick of hearing this one. But when I see a man on a hurt ankle dropping 37 points and 14 assists on another team (again), I can only hang my head. That’s right, I’m talking about Chris Paul. A hurt ankle, and he does this? No offense to Bibby (glad you’re here, Mike) or Acie (I still think you’re going to be worthwhile), or Marvin (still like you, and you’ve gotten better, but this IS what it IS), because this isn’t their fault at all. But only the great players produce like that, even when hurt. After not drafting him, we got a guy who couldn’t recover from a common cold, much less play through it. Until we become an elite team through other means, I will always miss Chris Paul, even though we never got to know him. In the meantime, free Law but firing Woody this offseason!!

And that’s all…

By jami$$ion

March 18, 2008 2:11 AM | Link to this

What’s happening?This is the way i envisioned the hawks playing the whole season,especially after the trade for bibby.With good coaching that is.As long as they play unselfish , trust each other ,(jj draw the double then pass)& woody makes adjustments. We’ll be fine. I said after the trade that jj & bibby are the best backcourt in the east.Don’t believe me name me one better.Not coached better,but actually better.You’d be hardpressed.Our young frontcourts beasts also.If we can do NJ & ORL watchout.GO HAWKS

By ray

March 18, 2008 2:49 AM | Link to this

jami$$ion, Hawks vs. Nets should be on heck of a dogfight.

By SalimFan

March 18, 2008 3:50 AM | Link to this

Now lets beat the nets on wensday to set up a possible five-game strek showdown with the Magic……….Capping off a perfect week………hopefully.

By Najeh Davenpoop

March 18, 2008 5:01 AM | Link to this

What? Come on, y’all telling me you wouldn’t rather have Joakim Noah, who managed all of 4 points and 4 rebounds in today’s game? I’m sure it’s those extra two inches of height that helped him get all those boards.

Ray, the Kobe joke cracks me up.

The big difference in today’s win was pretty simple — the Hawks made shots. Normally half those shots Bibby and Joe threw up go clanging off the rim. The contributions from the Joshes were great, and they executed pretty well, but when you win a game basically off jumpshots I’m not ready to chalk it up as the start of something big. I hope Joe and Bibby can keep it going though.

By G-thang

March 18, 2008 7:04 AM | Link to this

A couple of things:

1. If the Hawks make the playoffs, will this justify Woodys and Billy’s job?

2. In a 7 game series against Boston or Detroit, how many games do you see us winning?

3. If we get swept in the playoffs, would that be considered a “good year.”

4. 29 wins, 15 games to go. How many games do you see us winning?

5. GOT PLAYOFF TIX, YET?

By Swatguy

March 18, 2008 7:20 AM | Link to this

Glad to see you back on the saddle.

By doc

March 18, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

didnt see the game last night but hopefully this is learning how to win part two for the year. saw some of the highlights and there were many with several players in the mix. feel chills will find more open looks with bibby and jj looking more on. he needs a bit of room with his chest high push shot but when open is our third best option from behind he three line. still dont know why marvin’s range is so limited because if he ever stretches it out then he and the team will become that much more dangerous.

ray outrageous man. had me LOL by 7 am not a bad way to start the day.

now let’s take the train to meet the nets and do the impossible, win three in a row on the road. it they achieve that then believers can begin to show their heads loud and proud, make believe until then. reason? they are better than each of the three teams but have underperformed. no way either the wiz or the nets should be in the hawks shadow with the talent they have much less the wiz ahead by 4 or 5 games since their team is decimated by injuries. what is the difference? it is not ando or clyde though many here want to make them out to be the problem. they just call it like they see it, a team spending its time 10 games under .500 in a very weak division. the hawks players change perception not the fans who all want to see success.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

SEKOU:

What you saw from Brendon is all he’s got. He never plays more than one good half of basketball. he tires easily. I wondered if he had any second half after the way he played in the first. He didn’t. That’s why we need an Al Horford inside. Blatche is too light to play well in there.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

CLYDE:

They’re starved for a winner Clyde, not gullible. I’ve been there with the Wizards. Its a nature-thang. Not saying there isn’t some truth to your statement, but cut Atlantans some slack man. Enjoy the moment.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

WOODSONSUCKS:

Wasn’t at the game except in spirit. Never claimed it. Where are you coming from? I’ve always heard marijuana is great as a psychological medicinal aid for pain, now I SEE it works!! Dude, be happy.

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Getting swept is better than what we’ve experienced for the last 10 years. Quit being so negative Clyde. It was a joke. Do you think I really believe that we will go 12-3 in our last 15. Come on man!

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Ray, speaking of Lost, I went to a party with my boy Josh Holloway the other night, and it was the bomb. He plays Sawyer on that show, and beleive it or not, I never watch. I’m too big of a sports fan to take the time to check it out. Myself and the old lady went out to Hawaii last summer to check out the set of the show, and I have to say, it was pretty interesting. But on another note, WE WILL BEAT THE NETS ON WEDNESDAY.

By fudd21

March 18, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

GThang I think Woody and Billy are gone regardless of how the season plays out.

In a series against Boston or Detroit, I would be happy with 1 win. Anything more would be gravy.

Getting swept would be a little disappointing but not surprising. I think the good year would depend more on the record and just seeing overall improvement from the team.

I see 8-7 as easily doable for the rest of the year. We have games against NY (2), Memphis, Miami, and Milwaukee. That should be 5 wins. Also I think when we play Boston again, they will have rapped up home court so they may be resting some folks. So 8-7 is doable but 10-5 or 11-4 is also a very realistic possibility.

By Mac-Town

March 18, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Our remaining schedule is so weak!!!!

Toronto,New Jersey, and Philadelphia are lumped all at around 4 or 4 1/2 games ahead of us

There is no reason we shouldnt go on a sizable win streak (or something like an 8-2 stretch)

1 or more of those 3 teams could go on a skid and things could get very interesting.

I mean really guys, that schedule is SO weak and its crunch time. If we cant go on a hot streak to close out the season with a schedule that weak then quite frankly we dont deserve anything!!!

By ATL Rattler

March 18, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Good back to back road wins. Obviously this next game is a big game for the home team. The ball club looked good all around last night, even Woody made some good timeouts vs what he usually does.

I have to say the best nickname I’ve heard for JJ is from Steve Smith, calling him “The Machine”. He just keeps on going. Still, The Machine looks better when he’s somewhat rested.

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Gotta root for the Nets tonight, whether we like them or not. They play Chicago, who I think has the best chance of knocking us out of the playoffs. But on the other hand, we dont wont them to have any momentum for Wednesday’s game, so I have a dilemma.

By Melvin

March 18, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

The Hawks took the train to New Jersey after the game against the Wizards. Hmmm, is this a sign that the BASG are trying to save some cash to resigned their free agents this summer. Boy, is this franchise 1st class or what?????????

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Who would have thought that Jamerson would turn into a better player than Vinsanity? After all, he’s the Tar Heel that had all the hype before the draft, but Jamerson’s game is growing, while Carter’s is degressing. WOW!

By kwooden1

March 18, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

I agree with Najeh about last nights game, the Hawks were making shots! It really helped the high pick and roll, gave the guys a lot of lanes to drive. It also helped JJ with the double teams, because he had more lanes to pass into. I even heard a Wizards radio annoucer after the game, say the Hawks had a lot of great shooters! (what Hawks team was he talking about?)

HUGH game against NJ tomorrow night, especially for their confidence. A double diget win and the guys will start really believing they deserve to be in the Playoffs, a close lose and they will be questioning themselves again. A double diget lose, they will be right back to where they were after the last Charlotte game. One really good sign is Marvin had the great night against NY and Bibby had the great night against Washington. Different guys are stepping up.

GO HAWKS!!

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Mac-Town, we are ahead of the Nets. wtf!

By fudd21

March 18, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

TB I’m actually going to be rooting for the Bulls. I think their schedule is tougher the rest of the way than Jersey’s. Plus I don’t want them coming in with any confidence. But then again if Jersey losses tonight, they may play with a greater sense of urgency. OK TB I feel your dilemma. LOL

By JohnGTFan

March 18, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Last night was so fun to be at. I got more dirty looks and foul words directed at me than I did during the December game! I LOVE IT! Man, Bibby was SICK last night!!!! Horford…please, voters should be arrested if he isn’t ROY…that would be nothing short of criminal! A couple weeks ago I was one to criticize JJ…well, I certainly stand corrected. He wasn’t awesome last night…but man was he SOLID. When he didn’t have his shot he was finding people…and when ATL needed a big shot, he provided. My hats off to the man!!!!

Great win! Hoping for an even bigger one in Jersey!

By Melvin

March 18, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

TB, I hope the Bulls win tonite. The Hawks would benefit more if they win. A win for the Bulls would give the Hawks a 1 game lead for the final playoff spot going into tomorrow nite game versus the Nets. Worst case scenario (hate to say this) If the Hawks lose, they would be tied with the Nets for the 8th spot again. But if the Hawks beat the Nets, then they would be ahead of the Nets & Bulls (i think) by 2 games….

By RA

March 18, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

I think that what Horford said about the team begining to “get it” is very true. Now, granted the Clippers are still the Clippers, the Nicks are a laughing stock, and Washington is far from the Cream of the NBA Crop. However, this is the NBA, which means that if you take anybody for granted, you could end up with a L where a W should be. They should have beaten the Clippers, they didn’t take them lightly, and they came away with the win that they should have gotten. That hasn’t always happened this year. New York is pitiful, but they have some grown men on that team, and they were at home. Had Atlanta let up off of them, they could have gotten embarrassed. Washington is not the strongest team out there, but they are a good team, bigger, stronger, and deeper than Atlanta and yet, the Hawks defeated them on their own home floor. People can hate all they want to, but I like what I’m seeing from this bunch.

By Frustrated, Inc.

March 18, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

STOP IT!

The quote from the Wiz head coach should be enough to can Woodson today. Why with all this talent are the Hawks so far below .500? Three things: 1) Coaching, 2) Coaching, 3) Coaching.

Billy Knight has already shown that he needs to be gone by cutting bait on what may have been the worst draft pick since John Contract (Sheldon “Building Maintenance” Williams).

If the Hawks hold onto the 8th spot, so what? They’ll be swept by the Celts in the 1st round. WHOOP-DEE-DOO!

By champ

March 18, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

We’ve seen these “mini-rolls” before only to be followed up with consecutive losses. The Hawks have seven games to end the month, with 6 of them being ones they should win. There is no excuse not to win at least 5 out of these next 7 games.

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Billy didnt make those decisions alone. TRUST ME! And obviosly your’re not a fan, or you would’nt be frustrated, at least not today, anyways. THE REAL FANS WANT TO SEE A PLAYOFF GAME IN THE ATL. PERIOD! At first you so-called fans were saying, they’ll never make the Playoffs, now it’s if they make it, they’ll get swept. Which is it? At least you went from us not making it, to getting swept by the Celtics. That’s 1 step forward.

By Dan

March 18, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Clyde

Just how are Hawks fans gullible if the Celtics sweep the Hawks in the first round? I think a majority of the people on here would be happy just being in the playoffs. I don’t think anyone would be too heartbroken if they were knocked out in 4 games.

You’re slipping lately, man. First, the retarded trade requests and now calling out Hawks fans for something they don’t/won’t feel.

By RA

March 18, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Okay, just a reminder to all those people that might have forgotten. The Hawks and the Celtics play in the eastern conference. Allow me to supplement that reality with a short list of teams that the Celtics could very easily sweep under the rug in the first round:

The Atlanta Hawks The Washington Wizards The New Jersey Nets The Chicago Bulls The Cleveland Cavs. The Charlot Bobcats The Philedelphia 76ers The Milwaukee Bucks The Indiana Pacers The Toronto Raptors The Orlando Magic (Maybe)

This completes the list of Eastern conference teams that could very easily be swept out of the playoffs by the Boston Celtics. Any questions?

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

So saying that the Hawks will get swept by the Celtics is just plain stupid. ANY QUESTIONS. LOL!

By Jo Bling

March 18, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

I’m loading the flamethrower …

OK, if the Hawks make the playoffs, then who’s to say that Knight and Woodson don’t deserve to stay? It will be hard to argue they’ve failed to meet expectations.

If the Hawks make the playoffs, Knight and Woodson will be right on target with their painfully slow development plan. You can’t deny it - there’s been progress every year. I think every single person associated with this organization, including every fan, would have to agree that the stated goal at the start of the season was to make the playoffs. Don’t forget last fall there were a WHOLE LOT of people saying the Hawks didn’t stand a chance of making the playoffs. But, within the organization that was the goal. And it wasn’t to make the playoffs and get 40-45 wins. No, the goal was just to make the playoffs. So, if the Hawks do that with 35-40 wins, then they’ve accomplished the goal.

Not only that, but Knight made a pretty shrewd mid-season move to dump four backups for a front-line point guard. Yeah, he screwed up when he drafted Sheldon. That happens. What proves your worth, though, is whether you are man enough to admit you screwed up and move on. Knight did that. I have a bigger problem with Woodson, who seems to have underachieved this season. But what seems is not always so. After all, the stated goal was to make the playoffs. If the Hawks do that, then how can anyone say that Woodson underachieved?

Hate to say it, folks, but if the Hawks make the playoffs I think Knight and Woodson are safe.

By fudd21

March 18, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

RA You left out New York and Miami. LOL!

By Chikara

March 18, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

First of all woodsonsucks get your hand out of your pants and put it back on the keyboard where it belongs!

Second, where in my response did I say Josh Smith had any turnovers? I said he needs to work on his ball handling, of course you weren’t paying attention to that because you’re not smart enough to figure that out.

Enough of you, so i’ll move on.

Najeh said it best that this game was won because the Hawks hit their shots. The key was being able to respond when Jamison hit his threes and Roger Mason was playing out of his mind for a while there.

This is how a team grows, being able to stay on the attack, which is a far cry from how they played pre-Bibby.

I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention how active they were on the boards tonight. In their two previous losses the Hawks were unable to get the big offensive rebounds to keep them in the game. This time though you could see Horford getting stronger and Haywood getting weaker as the game went on.

Atlanta is playing with the urgency that is needed to make it happen. I think that by winning games against weaker opponents it will build up their confidence and chemistry as they take on those teams they are battling for the final spot in the East.

champ is right about the fact that the Hawks have had times when they slipped after a mini-roll. Wednesday night will go a long way in determining if they are ready to take that next step.

By RA

March 18, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

No fudd21,

I didn’t forget them. I only included teams that have a prayer of making the post season…

By MsDee

March 18, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

Let’s say Woodson & BK will stay if we make the playoffs, that doesnt mean they cant be fired after 5 opening games. Look what happened to the head coach of the Thrashers. They made the playoffs the previous year and still got the boot!! The only thing Woodson and BK will maybe get is a 1yr extension to see if they can continue their chemisty.

By Jo Bling

March 18, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

MsDee -

Good point about the Thrashers. However, look where that franchise is now. The Hawks are in a heck of a lot better shape than the Thrashers.

By Mike Woodson

March 18, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Sit back, shut up, and watch the games. Pansies.

By The Flash

March 18, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

So, I finally get to see, and what do I see, I see JJ playing the small forward spot just like I been saying all along.

I don’t care how they introduce them, the guy was playing the foreward spot on offense on the left side, at least the entire first quarter, which is mostly all I could get to watch (kids).

I like him in that position, always have. I also like MW out top, which is where I saw his extreme versatility taking him, if you guys can remember that far back.

Good thing I’m not one to say I told you so, huh. BTW, to me your Atlanta Hawks look pretty freakin good. And, Astroman, I am more impressed with Smooth.

By jonathan friedman

March 18, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Easy now, let’s see how they do in New Jersey, with a team thats also on the bubble. Sekou, I’ll look for you at the game on Wed. My kids and i will be the only hawk fans there.

By jonathan friedman

March 18, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Easy now, let’s see how they do in New Jersey, with a team thats also on the bubble. Sekou, I’ll look for you at the game on Wed. My kids and i will be the only hawk fans there.

By ben

March 18, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

C’mon, seven lottery picks later and you’re battling for the eighth spot in the east? Who are you, the Clippers? Fire Knight and Woodson. Hire Larry Brown. Anything else is just pretending.

By Hawksville Resident

March 18, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

I’m with you TB, people just have to be negative. There are Hawks Haters everywhere. These are the same people that will be begging me for one of my tickets when we make the playoffs.. Hear that Uncle Drew, you better find yourself a real good scalper! I liked our body language all last night. Wednesday is a huge game for us!

By johnny

March 18, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Im keeping the faith…… if Salim, Zaza, JRich, and Acie can play a good supporting role off the bench and at least be an average playoff-team-level bench than we can do this big and get to .500 before seasons end.

If they can do that in support of our very good and talented top 6 of Bibby, JJ, Marvin, Smoove, Horford and Chillz than we can really step up and do big things.

And keep playing defense, that is the most important thing as well. Run as much as you can and execute.

I’ll keep the faith no matter what. Making the playoffs is crucial to our future starting with next season. GO HAWKS!

By johnny

March 18, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Horford is the future.

Get that boy a good big-man coach and he’s our Elton Brand/Carlos Boozer in the future.

Best example is the transformation of Dwight Howard from last season to this one, he had no back-to-basket game last year and this year he is dominant with great lowpost moves that you can dump it down to and do a great job.

Horford has the size, good touch around the rim, great athleticism, length, good hands, speed, quickness, and strength… he has solid skill too and with a good bigman coach like KG (Mchale), Duncan(Robinson), Bynum(Kareem), Yao(Ewing), D Howard(Ewing), Al Jefferson(clifford Ray) and many other great bigs all had (HOPEFUlLY ALTON lISTER Is tHat GUY For horFORD)……

with that, and with the great work ethic/hard work put in by Big Al, we will have ourselves an allstar 20/10 Power Forward for years to come that can anchor our team and team up with JJ and others to be a contender put around them for years.

Get that boy a good bigman coach and watch him grow and thrive. I got faith in that, Horford is the truth! tHANK GOD WE GOT HIM!

By Professor

March 18, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

If we beat the teams we should beat, we will make the playoffs, period. You have to make the playoffs before you can do anything in the playoffs. Not saying that Atlanta has a chance against the Celtics or Magic, but stranger things have happened…….

By johnny

March 18, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Even if we get swept by the Celtics in the playoffs that would be GREAT for our franchise.

We need to get to the playoffs and it is a huge step and shows a young team they belong and can make it there.

Just like the Magic from last year to this year, they changed their coach also which was just as big but the biggest thing was MAKING the playoffs….. even though they got KILLED and SWEPT by the Pistons, that let them know they belonged and really sparked them on their run as the 3-seed twenty games over .500 this year as a young team on the rise.

So if the Hawks make the playoffs it doesnt matter what the results are once we’re there (If we pulled off a miracle and made it to round 2 it would be great too, dont get me wrong)…..

But making the playoffs is CRUCIAL to next year and the future of this young/talented/good team on the rise. BELIEVE THAT CLYDE!

By Clyde

March 18, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Sean Williams- 1115 Minutes Played-99 Blocks-26 Steals-4.26 Blocks per 48 Minutes Played.

Al Horford- 2065 Minutes Played-64 Blocks-54 Steals-1.49 Blocks per 48 Mintues Played.

The Hawks need a defensive center not a scoring center.

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By johnny

March 18, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Sean Williams is Josh Smith with a lot worse offense and slightly worse defense. An inch taller and a bit skinnier.

Thats it.

By preston

March 18, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

lol..Terrell, “The Woody Woodpecker” show is alive and kicking…….I have really been working a lot lately, and I have some other projects realated to my job that I am concentrating on now……my blog time has dropped significantly, but ‘ole woody is still quite the character………these are some nice wins, but remember that this team is fighting for their lives for the last freakin’ playoff spot in the weakest conference in the league!! The Clippers, Knicks, and Wizards are what they are, and the hawks have benefited mostly from JJ’s play during this stretch of games. I still think that Woody does not know how to use this team as a whole, nor his players individually. This teams’ record is still not that much different from last yrs’ record at this time…and I do not think that this team has any identity offensively or defensively. Teams that have a modicum of offensive identity know how to attack the hawks……..pick and roll them to death, and drive the ball down the middle for mostly uncontested layups………defensively, teams that concentrate an shutting down JJ, usually succeed in making us look like a team playing basketball in the backyard, who have no idea of what to do with the ball……so, although I am just as happy as every Hawks fan to see them at least win these games, I still look at Woody as being way over his head here.

By jami$$ion

March 18, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Eddie Jordan’s comments said it all. How is a team with this much talent there many games under 500?That to me says a couple of things.1st this team should be above 500.2nd thing is this team’s better than my team,and my team’s usually a 5th seed.3rd if i had this team i’ll be a 3rd seed(fighting for the Eastern Crown).And it’s not just Eddie.It’s Barkley,Hubie,Doc Rivers,etc .every1 but u see’s this talent.True cp roy jj js a be great.If it happened.But bibby jj chills js & al is pretty good & it is here

By Steve T

March 18, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Clyde, the Hawks can always find a guy to block shots and get rebounds. I think that they can pick one up this summer. On another note, if it was not for AL scoring, they might have lost. It never hurt to be able to score. Al brings a lot more to the game because he is a complete ball player.

By Astro Joe

March 18, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Flash, Welcome Back! I was hoping the game last night would draw you out of your ritzy cave.

Yes, Smith is playing better and showing more signs of maturity. Generally, he needs to stay in the post where he is most effective on offense. And he did a good job of allowing Bibby (and Law) serve as the primary play-maker, which limited turnovers.

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Does Eddie Jordan realize that we just got Mike Bibby, who can actually score, make the defense think twice about doubling JJ, and distribute the basketball? Something we’ve never had. He should be worried about his own a*. They’re not too far ahead of us.

By Matt

March 18, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

You got to give Clyde credit - the man sticks by his guns. Kinda like Woody.

By John

March 18, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Clyde, Just because someone has great stats on D (blocks and steals) does not make them a superior defensive player. If defense was judged by stats alone, Josh Smith would have made a couple of all-defense teams but he hasn’t. I guarantee you that Williams blocks shots coming from the weak side. He does not man other centers up and guard them like Horford does. I think you are just trying to stir the pot.

By Matt

March 18, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

In case anyone wanted to look at real statistics on Sean Williams, he’s averaging 0.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, and 0.8 bpg on the month. And I just love how Clyde STILL seems to think that “Defense = Blocks + Steals.” If that’s the measure of a great defensive player, then Bruce Bowen is a mediocre defender, and Shawn Bradley was a better defender than David Robinson or Shaquille O’Neal.

Sean Williams is barely in the playing rotation on a team that isn’t exactly loaded with frontcourt talent. Give me Al Horford any damned day.

But like I said, Clyde sticks to his guns.

Just like Woody.

By cp

March 18, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Clyde im sorry but your argument is weaaaaaakkkk. If I remember correctly last night they said the Hawks were in the top 5 in relation to blocks and rebounds. I will have to look that up. If that is correct then your argument is really just pointless. You keep pointing out blocks but Sean Williams is now 3rd on the depth chart and basically does nothing else. The guy does not rebound well or score. For all his shot blocking he has been demoted on the depth chart and his team is behind us in the playoff chase. I really want Chicago to beat the Nets. If we beat the teams we are supposed to beat we will make the playoffs.

By Najeh Davenpoop

March 18, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

How about we just cut Al Horford and sign Keon Clark? Not only does he block many more shots than Horford, he’s even a weed head like Sean Williams too.

Fire Clyde.

By preston

March 18, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Who is Sean Williams?

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

CHIKARA:

Mason plays double-diget offense 80% of the time now. He’s a real boost coming off the bench.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

WELCOME TO GET CLYDE DAY.

Hey, Clyde, how’s your catching skills. Man, jabs are flying at you faster than Ali in his prime could deliver. I gotta’ add one. Horford is ‘da bomb. And his play is cold as death man, and relentless. I would gtive up Haywood and Blatche for vhim anytime.I’ve loved his play every since I saw him against the Wizards last time. Second time around even better.

FLASH: Ando wanted to know what I had done with you. Its nice to see your imprisonment has had no ill effects. Nothing personal man, just business O.K.

By joe

March 18, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

—Sure, you could complain that wins over the Clippers, Knicks and Wizards are somewhat tainted when you consider their combined winning total is just 73 games.— YES…that’s why they have not proved ANYTHING, all those teams kind of suck…

By Chikara

March 18, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

cp the Hawks are second in the league in blocks and in the top 10 in rebounds. Why? Because of Horford (duck Clyde here comes another rock) and his heart. He comes to play each time and doesn’t commit silly fouls like Noah or Williams.

Hopefully we’ll get to see Williams play considering he’s a third stringer now.

Sticking to your guns is ok when you’re right, but when you’re obviously wrong it makes you stubborn, just like Woody.

The regular season isn’t about proving any points joe that’s why you can’t give credence to the Houston Rockets 22 game winning streak any more than Atlanta’s. It’s in the playoffs when teams prove themselves.

By jami$$ion

March 18, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Just me venting right now.I here a lot of talk around here about our center situation & how that’s our weakness.(I know there’s a plethora of good shooting guards,swingmen,and a dozen or so good powerforwards & points).But there’s only 30 teams.And as it stands right now,outside of Yao DH & Shaq there are none.Promising bynum,oden,biedris,& horford.I remember in the offseason u wanted amare.(beast on O weak on D)True we need help.But marv josh & al these 22s are gonna get better & better.by 24 we’ll be tuff

By MannyT

March 18, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

It’s nice to see people get hope as we get to the easy part of the schedule. I just hope they can keep it going. Need to finish strong against all these weak teams on the schedule.

If the Hawks do what they can do, playoffs are in sight.

doc I still got the same 4 bags packed by my door—just reading more than blogging here these days.

I am interested in what all the dark siders have to say now that there is a little light at the end of the tunnel.

Clyde, we need to get you into fantasy hoops next year so you can do your GM magic!

Maybe we can swing a deal to ditch Al-ROY for Amir Johnson or Jelani McCoy](http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jelani_mccoy/index.html?nav=page) since their blocks per 48 min look so good.

Given all the love free agents have for playing here (i.e. none), they might be the best we can do in the off season. I hear there will be open tryouts for the Hawks Summer League team.

By Tyger

March 18, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Is it just me, or do the Hawks play better with Childress in the starting unit?

The Hoops IQ increases significantly with Childress on the court rather than JSmoove. Athleticism and strength or down, but on-court intelligence is through the roof. They actually looked like a team that practices last night.

By Astro Joe

March 18, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Doc, I need a recommendation for a “frozen shoulder”. Getting old sucks. At least I’m not waxing poetic about the prowess of Sean Williams.

And where’s that guy who was all excited about Mike Conley? Dude is looking like a “wet-behind-the-ears” project.

MannyT, fantasy playoffs are soon, right? I’m trying to be this year’s GS Warriors and complete a 1st round upset of one of you big-time players.

By jami$$ion

March 18, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

clyde i’m not here 2 jump on u.like i said in my previous post.there aren’t any dominating bigs at center but yao & dh.and at the 4 u have kg,duncan,&jefferson.the key word is dominate.that’s controling the paint on both sides of the ball.That let me know team defense and help defense can get the job done.Eventhough a marque player comes in handy.But I also see horford being a dominate in two years. a 19ppg 12rbs 3.5ast.Very duncanish.A allstar & cornerstone for this team.GO HAWKS

By Clyde

March 18, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

Whispers I like picklessss..

By mykhalc

March 18, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

no matter where the team ends up, playoffs or not, they would still have UNDERACHIEVED due to WOODSON…PERIOD!!!! their record is the TRUE indication of how they have produced this year!! and it is a DIRECT reflection of WOODSON as HC. he ain’t happenin’…PERIOD!!!

i’m pullin’ that the team does make the playoffs, no doubt!! but i’m all about keepin’ it real and in perspective…REGARDLESS!!!

WOODSON’s gotta go…PERIOD!!!!

By Clyde

March 18, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

All I did was give the stats. Numbers don’t lie. Defense means preventing another teams from scoring. If the Wizards would have went to Haywood more in the second half that game last night would have been different. Horford was no match for him.

If you do not agree with my arguement provide numbers to go against it. Or just do like everyone does; question my creditability cause you know I’m right.

And that wasn’t me on that last post.

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By Clyde

March 18, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

Astro Joe he’s better that Acie Law.

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By jhan

March 18, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

Looks like the Hawks are finally figuring out what to do when JJ is double/triple teamed - extra passes.

JJ passes to the top out of the double, Bibby then passes to Horford at the free throw line, who then passes to the corner or down low to a wide open player for an uncontested shot.

Can’t believe it took 67 games for them to finally figure this out - but I’m glad they did.

Clyde - I feel for you man. Being compared to Woody is cruel & unusual punishment if you ask me. I may not agree with you, especially about what makes a good defensive player, but you’re heart is in the right place!

By Clyde

March 18, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Pickless Pickless with sweet n’ sour sauce all over my bodyss..

By mykhalc

March 18, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

jhan, but we know why it did take 67 games to figure it out tho!!!

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

CLYDE:

My man, my man. Haywood can dominate Horford, you are RIGHT. But I believe Brendon has some physical malady, probably undiagnosed, maybe muscular. One of my daughters suffers from McCardles’s Disease. His symptoms manifest a milder form of what she suffers from. At any rate, he cannot play with a high level of energy for a complete game. As he did in the first half of the game last night, after the half timeout, he cannot again reach that level of activity without some extended time of rest. He’s been that way ever since he came to the Wizards. Of course, the team is not going to say this, but if you follow the Wizards you can see Jordan trying to rest him intermittantly so that he can last throughout the game. Last night Eddie used Haywood more in one half than I believe I have seen since he’s been here. And in the second half it showed. So it was as much lack of energy on Haywood’s part as it was the superior play of Horford. You know what I think of Al. Horford is an NBA All-STAR in waiting for the next decade. And I’m not making this up to be an apologist for the center play of Haywood. That’s just how it is.

By BA

March 18, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

“Question” your credibility? At this point I’m convinced you’re smoking crack! Hey, Clyde,”stats don’t lie”(Spoken like a true mouthbreather), maybe we should trade Joe for Brevin Knight! I bet he has more steals than Joe! This Horford garbage makes you sound like a borderline retard.

By doc

March 18, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

aj i agree aging sucks, the alternative just sucks worse. listen the prob isnt a quick fix and probably takes effort and several approaches. if the ortho guy says surgery is limited in its ability to free it up or hedges on whether it can help then alternative means is worth it.

most folks with shoulder probs seem to want a quick fix and fall out of treatment after about 2 weeks never to be heard from. they dont see the results fast enough and arent in enough pain to see a difference that keeps them in the program like someone does with severe back pain. they also take to promises of the ortho guys which sometimes clear it up but frequently after the surgery and down time they end up with incomplete benefit and still have pain and deceased range of motion. difference is their insurance company takes some of the burden for the cost so they are willing to go with the most invasive bet first. yep it makes no sense but it is what it is. flash would say feldenkreis and i would agree along with acupuncture and some kind of physical therapy especially one that includes egoscue or one where they look at the whole body for imbalances and not just the involved shoulder. i know TMI but you asked.

i hate to say it but we have a new romeo among our midst except it is BA of all people hitting on the new chop chick, he is already undressing her with some lewd comments about how sexy she is with the hat on. yeah right. look out richie you got someone making you run for your money. i think he needs to be banned for hustling a women on another blog site since there are plenty here now for him to go after, either that or plenty of harassment each time he tries to blast us with his self righteous rhetoric. heh heh

okay team needs to win convincingly against n.j. since they are on the second leg of a back to back. i dont care if it is on the road, just win baby!!! man up boys, man up!!! i am tired of the whimpering, they have coasted thus far this season.

By Matt

March 18, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Clyde,

Anyone can pick and choose numbers like you did. Hell MannyT pointed out that if you look at the per-48 numbers, Jelani McCoy looks pretty damned good.

In any case, I gave you numbers earlier. You just choose to ignore them. Horford is averaging nearly a double-double. Williams is in the low single digits across the board. Those are numbers. You just don’t like them.

We don’t question your credibility because you’re right. We question it because you look like an arrogant jackass when you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge one of the few true bright spots for the Hawks this year.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

doc:

Go over to O’Brian’s blog and read my 9:15 p.m. post up to BA. Tell me what you think.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

doc:

If I have to run I’m out of luck. My Doc says no running or walking for exercise just yet. After tomorrow maybe.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

IN THE GET CLYDE DERBY IT’S ANOTHER SCORING JAB BY MATT.

By BA

March 18, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

You’re right. Calling yourself “Doc” and dolling out medical advice on the hawks blog isn’t self righteous AT ALL. You probably wear the lab coat to Mickey D’s. “Doc”, maybe you should be banned from soliciting chicken-head chirpractors in the Hawks blog!

By dakid

March 18, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

Al is a beast, Sean is a pot head. No one in there right mind would trade a 21 year old, who can score and rebound, no one would. Who was the last great center to lead league in blocks?? And I said great center, so save the Deke answers. But I have to agree that I would rather have Conley Jr instead of Acie. If you’re not gonna be able to be a shooter or a punishing point, at least be super quick. Conley is super fast and quick.

By Clyde

March 18, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this

All of you have the mind of a squirrel, in the playoffs we are going to get killed because we have the “undersized” al horford, what a joke, we couldve gotten sean williams or luis scola.

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY!!!

By terrell barron

March 18, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this

Damn, the Bulls are playing well, since the trade. They should have beat New Orleans, and they’re leading New Jersey by 23. Looks like we’ll have a 1 game lead, heading into tomorrow’s game.

By doc

March 18, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

BA dude aj requested the info a little sidewalk consult.since i have an m d license to practice in the state of georgia i dont think it is self righteous at all to honor a request for info. i really dont know what chiropractor i solicited but if you say it is so then it is, who is to argue with you? i guess it would have been rude to not accommidate him but that might be your modus operandi. besides we go way back several years now as bloggers at the liars table.

now go chase some women. got the hat off chop chick yet?

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

BA:

Uhh, guy that’s “doling” out advice. Go read my post and report back to me.

By Clyde

March 18, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

Ok Matt answer this question with a yes or no. Nothing Else.

Is Sean Williams a better defensive player than Al Horford?

I’m not talking about all around or offensive. I’m talking about defensive.

JA or NEIN?

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

BA:

See you read and reported. Good. BTW, your take was right-on. Cox haters are a bunch of mouth-breathing, booger-eatin’ retards. See we agree on stuff. Be cool and don’t be no fool. Remember, this don’t mean nothin’.

By doc

March 18, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

manny t, didnt john denver already write that song, something about bags packed?

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

If your signon is Woodsonsucks? Then you don’t deserve a response. You need to get a real name and then post up. What can be more fake than a fake name? ;o LOL

By woodsonsucks

March 18, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

drmaryb my love for you burns like the heat of a thousand suns

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

* Tell em’ Doc* There is no quick fix in life, in credit and sometimes in health!

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

CLYDE:

Good point. Horford is a monster #4, and undersized against a true #5. Witness last night. If Haywood hadn’t run out of steam, he would have had a great game. In fact, he did for 20 minutes. Even a squirrel brain could see that. Against DH et. al. he’s gonna’ wear down. But Clyde, pause and think. You’re actually talking about the post-season for this team. Ain’t that grand? At least it’s a positive step in the right direction for this franchise.

By Najeh Davenpoop

March 18, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

Jerome James averages 38 points and 28 boards per minute this season.

By Clyde’s logic, we should trade for him too.

Gimme a f***’ break.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

drmaryb:

The doctor is in. Hello lady. How is the team dooin’ in New Jersey tonight? What up?

By Najeh Davenpoop

March 18, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

I’m sure Detroit really regrets starting the 6’8 Ben Wallace at center in the 2003-2004 season.

If only they had started Darko Milicic at center, who is 7 feet tall and averaged more blocks per minute, they would have been so much more successful.

Jesus Christ.

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this

Hey Ray

JJ plays deaf and dumb - I like that! His game is Just do It

Sometimes I wonder if he even has a pulse, I want to just run out on the court and take his blood pressure sometimes just to see if he’s REAL!

Not a word from this man - He is ridiculously killing ‘em softly like - Roberta Flak (i think).

But anyway, this man is in his own world, nothing phases him. I wonder, sometimes if he played against someone like Dennis the worm Rodman if even that would get a rise out of him.

I’ll never forget when Dennis felt-up on ZO of the New York knicks and ZO took a swing at him! (subsequently suspended for a play-off game) and lost the series -

Would JJ ever take a swing at anyone?

I doubt-it! I love JJ he’s special and quite cerebral! The Quiet Storm.

By Najeh Davenpoop

March 18, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

38 points and 28 boards per 48 minutes. Whatever.

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Hey CLyde

Doc-Rivers was Mike Woodson before he got help!

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Hey RichBrave Get-Em’.

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

drmaryb:

I’m gonna’ be off-line for a couple of days. You carry on for me ‘till I get back.

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

Hey Chikara

Hips Don’t Lie! And you don’t either.

The only reason the HAWKS won is because you were there. I think RichBrave was sittin’ on the 50 yard line - What do you think?

By Najeh Davenpoop

March 18, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

Rafer Alston just set up Luis Scola with an easy bucket inside, which he promptly dribbled off his foot out of bounds. The same Scola who averages EVEN FEWER BLOCKS PER GAME than Horford, and is only 1 inch taller.

Clyde = Hater.

Get the f*** outta here.

By Matt

March 18, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

Easy enough - no. Al Horford is a better defensive player than Sean Williams. Williams gets some good blocks playing help defense, but he’s not as good at manning up on the block. In fact, he seems so eager at times to get a block that he jumps too soon and commits a foul - which is why he averages nearly as many fouls per game as Horford (2.8 compared to 3.4) despite playing barely half as many minutes (18.3 compared to 31.3).

Williams might be 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch taller than Horford and might be better at getting highlight reel blocks, but Horford is stronger and no less athletic, has far better defensive awareness, and is better at holding his position on the low post playing one on one.

Guys who can block shots and do nothing else are easy to find (hell, we’ve already got Solomon Jones). Being a good defensive player takes more than that. If you want to go just by blocks, I guess you must prefer the defense of Shawn Bradley to Charles Oakley…or did you forget that one of the best frontcourt defenders of the past 20 years was 6’8?

So yeah - I’ll take Al Horford’s consistently smart and strong defense over Sean Williams’s occasional Sportscenter block.

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Hey ALL YOU PUNKS & HATERS

I’m B A C K - well rested and ready to rumble! My HAWKS are on a three game win streak - SO HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW?

You know who you are - All the FAKES who hide behind multiple sign-ons because you can’t take the HEAT - really.

And all of you that thought I was done? PUH - LEASE I’m just getting started. HA HA HA

I’m in the mood to tear someone’s head off, any takers? I love a good battle - I live for it! So come and get it!

By Ken Strickland

March 18, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

CLYDE-come on my friend. You are so obcessed with blocked shots you can’t appreciate anything else. As I’ve said before, a block doesn’t guarantee a change of possession. Nor does it mean the team was prevented from scoring on that possession. However, a steal does guarantee a change of possession and a failed scoring attempt on that possession. A charge also guarantees a change of possession and a foul on the player.

Tell me CLYDE, if you were a HC and being realist and using common sense, what would you rather have.

(1)A BLOCKED SHOT-no guarantee of change of possession and no guarantee the team won’t secure the block and score on the same possession.

(2) A STEAL or CHARGE-A guaranteed change of possession on both, which takes away a teams scoring opportunity. A CHARGE also adds a foul to the player and/or team.

I’ll take Horford’s greater steals and drawn charges over his fewer blocks anytime. CLYDE, it’s obvious you love the gm of basketball, but you don’t seem to understand much about it.

I commend Woodson for doing a very good coaching job the last 3 gms. However, we’ve needed that for the entire 84gms. He has been the most inconsistent member of the team. He’s had too much of a negative impact on the players and their attitudes. He needs to go. BK is a foregone conclusion since the SASG has taken away his ability to function as a GM. LOOKS LIKE THE HAWKS FINALLY GOT HUNGRY, UNA$$ED THAT LIMB AND DECIDED TO KILL THEIR OWN FOOD. GOOD LUCK YOU HIGH FLYING HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Atlman

March 18, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

OMG DRMARYB why cant you just stfu, what is wrong with you, did you not take your medicine in the moringing, sheesh

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

MATT:

Oakley. Another great Virginia Union player with that Cleveland connection I had the honor to meet. Good guy.

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Hey Broke-Back BA

you couldn’t be a chiropractor if you tried really really really hard. You need more than home schooling from parents who figured out how to buy a trailer and pay for it in 30 years.

You actually must past fifth-grade before you can teach your kids at home. Didn’t they know? Can they not read?

When people like you stumble into lur offices? We ask them to leave - quietly.

People like you die before age 30 because you don’t have a clue how important a brain cell really is!

very very very sad! I’ll pray for you and your family. Now go away, and get a real sign-on, then come back. BA could be interpreted in many different ways, but it all comes down to one point -your name is probably worthless!

Hell if I had your dumb-a$$ name, I would probably call myself BA too!

Don’t bother to respond - I just put my SCROLL ON on pre-set for posters just like you!

HA HA HA HA ;0. I love this Game!

By richbrave

March 18, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

drmaryb:

ATLMAN wants to rumble. Throw down time girl. Gotta go now. Wish me luck.

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

Hey Altman

Folks let’s show this clown what he’s won! Your’e the first SUCKER to take the bait! HA HA HA HA ;o

The #1 IDIOT! - I love This Game! ;o

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this

Hey RichBrave Baby!

You don’t need luck - you got me babe! (we’re like Sonny & Cher) Oh! Yeah! I get to be CHER! HA HA HA!

Just picked up my razor-sharp cheetah thong from the dry cleaners today.

I had to get the STINK of losing off of it! Smellin’ like a Rose now!

I’m ready to rumble, cause my HAWKS are on a win streak - nothing, nobody, no loser can touch me now!

I’m untouchable, I’m having more fun than a fat kid eatin’ CAKE!

I’m the Greatest! Come on SUCKERS who’s next…get your tag-team ..I’m taking two at a time and no hold barred. It’s SPIKE-TV tonight I’m in a cage and I ready! HA HA HA! ;o ;)

I worked like a dog the past 4 days & I need a break. So maybe I can break these fools on this blog - while they’re trying to come in here with all that D-Game & negativity while my HAWKS are WINNING

HA HA HA HA ! ;o ;0 ;0 ;) PSYCHE!

By Atlman

March 18, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

And…thats all…did you take your pills yet..

By Hawksrule#!

March 18, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this

Lol look at this joke i found

Skinny little white guy goes into an elevator, looks up and sees this HUGE black guy standing next to him.

The big guy sees the little guy staring at him, looks down and says: “7 feet tall, 350 pounds, 20 inch private, 3 pound testicles, Turner Brown.”

The white man faints and falls to the floor.

The big guy kneels down and brings him to, shaking him. The big guy says: What’s wrong with you?”

In a weak voice the little guy says, “What EXACTLY did you say to me?”

The big dude says: “I saw your curious look and figured I’d just give you the answers to the questions everyone always asks me….. I’m 7 feet tall, I weigh 350 pounds, I have a 20 inch private, my testicles weigh 3 pounds each, and my name is Turner Brown.”

The small guy says: “Turner Brown?!…Sweet Jesus, I thought you said, Turn around!”

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

Dont get mad at me cuz im a cyberslut, just feel sorry for me

HA HA HA HA!

By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this

NEXT?

(Y A W N & Roll Over & Back to Sleep!)

By Clyde

March 18, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

Matt

“Williams gets some good blocks playing help defense, but he’s not as good at manning up on the block.”

Manning up does you no good when someone can jump right over you and score. But enough is enough. If the Hawks make the playoffs all of yall will see the light. Everyone in the NBA knows the Hawks are weak in the middle. And in the playoffs weaknesses get exposed real quick.

The Hawks are really bad when it comes to help defense. That is why we need a dominant force in the middle who can block shots.

And yes it is a possibility the Hawks could make the playoffs. The Nets won’t give Sean Williams more minutes so they might lose a couple.

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By Clyde

March 19, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this

drmaryb so who is Maurice Cheeks?

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By drmaryb

March 19, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this

Hey HawksRule#1 Great Stuff! Keep it up! Let’s have some fun tonight!

No Cry-Babies

Check This Out

Little Johnny is 6 years old & comes home from school. i.e.(Not Home Schooling)

He says, “Dad, I need help with my assignment.”

Dad asks, “What is your assignment?”

Johnny replied, “I need to know the difference between:

REALISTICALLY & THEORETICALLY?”

DAD says, “Go upstairs and ask your SISTER - If she would sleep with the guy next door for $5k?”

Little Johhny runs upstairs and asks, “SISSY - Would you sleep with the guy next door for $5k?”

She replies, “Are you serious? Duuuh! - of course I would sleep with the guy next door for $5k!”

Little Johnny goes back downstairs and responds, “DAD - SISSY said heck yeah! she would sleep with the guy next door for $5k! - But, I still don’t know the difference between:

REALISTICALLY & THEORETICALLY?”

DAD says,”O.K., now go in the kitchen and ask your MOM - If she would sleep with the guy next door for $5k?”

Little Johhny, runs to the kichen and asks, “MOM - Would YOU sleep with the guy next door for $5k?”

MOM replied, “$5k?…ugggh… $5k? Hell - Yeah, I would sleep with the guy next door for $5k!”

Little Johnny runs back to his DAD, and said, “MOM said Hell Yeah - she would sleep with the guy next door for $5k!”

(Little Johnny is quite frustrated by now and runs back to the den)

And he replied, “But DAD - I still don’t know the difference between:

REALISTICALLY & THEORETICALLY?

DAD answers, “Son - THEORETICALLY we got $10k, but - REALISTICALLY?

We’re Broke & Got Two W******* in the House!

And with that - I’m Gone!

Good night fellas - No real fight on here tonight everybody tapped - out!

I love This Blog!

By drmaryb

March 19, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this

Hey This is so SAD - I had to Edit> Copy> Paste -it

This Faceless PUNK used my signon to type this weak Post on my Behalf?

Here it Goes: An Imposter Wrote: and I qoute:

**By drmaryb

March 18, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

Dont get mad at me cuz im a cyberslut, just feel sorry for me

HA HA HA HA! **

Now yall’ real people and real bloggers know this ain’t even my style? I only have one sign on: I have nothing to hide from FAKE PEOPLE like this clown?

Take your pick from this PUNK LIST -

BA Altman

Choose Either - OR it doesn’t matter - but know this “You know who drmaryb is - And you let me off the HOOK!”

By ray

March 19, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this

Sean Williams vs. Al Horford

Rather than pick on Clyde, I’ll pose this simple fan’s perspective:

How many of us have said since Horford was drafted that he is going to be a great power forward? It just so happens that he has proven to be a better center than our former starting center (Zaza), and the best guy we’ve had at the center position in years. The fact is, none of us drafted Horford (although nearly everyone is happy about it). None of us made the guy play center.

Do you know who’s responsible for Horford being our center? I’ll tell you: 1)Billy-because he never drafted, traded for, or signed a decent center, 2)Mike Woodson-because if you produce, he’ll never let you rest…(just ask JJ) and 3)Zaza and LWright-neither guy got the job done that they were signed and paid to do. Blame those guys, and blame the ASG, too.

As for statistics, what good is a blocked shot if another opposing player gets the loose ball that you just slapped away and puts it right into the basket? That’s what makes Horford so valuable: he plays in-your-face defense, and while he may not block your shot every time, he’s going after that rebound. And, he’s not going to give you the position you want on the block if he can help it. I’m not saying Sean Williams is a bad player. Not at all. But let’s look at this:

Sean Williams has had 10 or more rebounds in a game 4 times this season. Al Horford averages 10 boards a game, pretty much all season (okay, so right now it’s 9.7) Those statistics don’t lie either, do they? No, they don’t. Horford started after the first four games of the season and has been a starter since. Sean Williams has started in 27 games and has been out of the starting lineup since. He’s now third string center behind Nenad Krstic and Josh Boone. Now Diop’s in Jersey, and Williams will fall behind him as well. Bottom line?

How is Sean Williams better than Al Horford? Somebody prove to me how! AGAIN, Sean is near the bottom of the deptch chart at his position (if not at the bottom). A little history lesson here…going for other teams’ third and fourth strings is how we got Pachulia, Wright, Speedy, Lue, and Anthony Johnson. No offense to AJ and Lue.

We all know Al Horford isn’t the best option at center in an ideal situation. But we don’t have that ideal situation, and he’s superior to all of the centers we’ve had. PERIOD. The only way you take a guy like Sean Williams for your center is if you are KEEPING Al Horford as your starting power forward. Not instead of the guy who’s going to produce more for you on both ends. Two strong 6’10” guys will usually do just fine down low.

By Najeh Davenpoop

March 19, 2008 12:48 AM | Link to this

Charles Barkley just said “Mike Woodson is going to the playoffs.”

30 seconds later, he said “Billy King has done a much better job in Philly than people get him credit for.”

By BA

March 19, 2008 1:05 AM | Link to this

This kind of ignorant ghetto-minded crap is exactly why women have no place on blogs. No more thongs or pretending like you’re a hot shot. For the last time, NOBODY CARES! I can promise you NO ONE comes here to read your personal crap. Let’s try at least to get it up to a fifth grade level. Call “doc” in person, get the std, shell out another illegitimate kid, smoke another rock and PIPE DOWN!

By Matt

March 19, 2008 1:39 AM | Link to this

Alright…seriously, it’s just not worth attempting to talk to Clyde on this one. But I just have to respond to this:

“Manning up does you no good when someone can jump right over you and score.”

Seriously? You ever consider the possibility that keeping your man off balance and further away from the hoop throws off their shot? Karl Malone was much more effective at guarding Hakeem than Shawn Bradley ever was because Hakeem should just back Bradley all the way underneath the rim, whereas Karl Malone wouldn’t give him an inch. It’s the same reason that the Knicks often used Oakley to man up against big men rather than Ewing after Ewing’s knees started to go - Oakley might have been shorter, but it was better to have a 6’8 beast than a 7’0 dude who folded like a deck of cards.

And REGARDLESS - both Horford and Williams are 6’10. So how the hell does Williams stop ANYONE with his height more than Horford can?

The answer, of course, is that he can’t.

So Clyde - at first you asked for numbers. When I (and many other people) gave you numbers, you ignored my response, changed the subject and asked for a “yes or no” answer on the overall defensive abilities of Williams and Horford. When I gave you a straight-up “no,” you responded by changing the subject again and talking only about how the Hawks need help defense (read: only blocks matter…and apparently Josh Smith’s blocks don’t count).

Clyde, I decided last week when DecDawg was bashing JJ that I don’t suffer fools who dodge and weave and can’t admit when they’re wrong. I’m now making the same decision with you.

Done with you, fool.

By Matt

March 19, 2008 1:45 AM | Link to this

Ray - agreed totally. I’d much rather have them both on the roster than either one or the other. I’d also like to have both more money and more free time, but the goons who run this world won’t let me have that either ;-)

By ray

March 19, 2008 2:19 AM | Link to this

Matt, that was a solid argument you put up yourself. I see we even said some of the exact same things. Good point about the height. As for money and free time, I’ve discovered that one always seems to come at the expense of the other…it’s a conspiracy, man! LOL!

drmaryb, that happens to all of us here. Don’t let it bother you or they’ll do it again…and again…and, well you get my drift. That’s one of the drawbacks of “freedom of blog”. Sometimes I wish this blog (known as the Liar’s Table) was live - in person with real people to match names. Somehow I think many of us would be a tad more polite. And others would simply be in need of advanced medical attention…speaking of which…

Doc, I see you’re being attacked once again by the dyslexic A* Bandit. Don’t worry, like a minor rash…it’ll pass…

By Terrence Moore

March 19, 2008 2:36 AM | Link to this

Hey Ray, I can’t WAIT for “Ray’s Daily News”! It’s the ONLY reason to read the Hawks blog. Maybe you could write a personal letter here for the resident “blog chickenhead”-oh yeah, you already did that for THREE DAYS STRAIGHT! Some really compelling stuff.

By ray

March 19, 2008 2:56 AM | Link to this

Just trying to be humorous….

By D Brown

March 19, 2008 6:58 AM | Link to this

Sekou, you failed to mention the play of Marvin Williams, is there something wrong with this dude that the public doesn’t know about? If not why is he still starting!?

By RA

March 19, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

D. Brown,

I think that this would have been the year that Marvin would have graduated from college… That aside, I think he’s playing a lot better. Here’s the thing, with Bibby here, he can finally let his game come to him as oppose to trying to force when Joe Johnson isn’t hitting. I’ve seen enough from him to believe that he can be a star in this league. If nothing else, he’s giving defenses something else to think about…

By devin

March 19, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

HOW CAN WE SAY THIS IS A PLAYOFF TEAM! THEY BEAT THE CLIPPERS, KNICKS & WIZARD… THESE TEAMS WANT TO LOOSE SO THEY CAN GET THE LOTTERY PICK!!!!! UNTIL THEY BEAT A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORDS… THE HAWKS WITH WOODSON IN COMMAND… THEY SUCK & WILL NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFF!!!!! THIS IS A JOKE TO ATLANTA!!!!!!!!

By doc

March 19, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

ray alas it is what one sees when the remaining functioning brain cells are a pirkinje cell and a spirocete.

ray, one just has to accept it and go on. he gives and takes everything on a personal level. sometimes you agree with the context other times not but rarely in the form it is given. unlike you oh great bard of humor delivering messages packed with fun and levity aiming the brush swipe large, the shotgun rather than the pistol taking it all in. what a masterful brain at its finest as the pirkinje cells only work to sublimate the axons of pleasurable discontent.

By D Brown

March 19, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

I have to admit when he’s on he’s on; but for the last few games a majority of his points have come from the free throw line. I can’t tell but sometimes it looks like he’s clueless on defense and on offense I think we should expect more than open jumpers. He has to find other ways to contribute when he doesn’t have a straight up 15 footer.

By drmaryb

March 19, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Hey Clyde

Mo Cheeks is identical to Doc Rivers. Two great defensive and smart point guards who knew how to play the game the right way. Nothing ultra-special but very steady! Solid as a Rock! Great role players and Great HC’s

(you can throw Byron Scott, Tim Hardaway and Mark Price and journey man point guard - I can’t think of the brother’s name from that era ..uggh! played for Indiana with Dale Nem’? Finished in New York with Patrick Ewing - what’s his name?)

Anyway all nice PG’s - they would all make great HC’s.

By MannyT

March 19, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

doc John Denver only had to pack one bag. I need 4 contingencies because of the schizophrenic nature of rooting for this up and down team.

To look at this in drmaryb terms:

Theoretically while the Hawks don’t have the best record, we are definitely good enough to make the playoffs.

Realistically beating less than stellar eastern conference teams like NJ, Chi, NY & Indy is enough to get us in the playoffs. We don’t have to beat the good teams if we can just beat the teams with worse records than the Hawks.

Astro Joe I believe the playoffs start next week. If my guys (Bosh, Kaman) are healthy, I’m ready for anyone, otherwise, I’ll struggle.

By Barry

March 19, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Hey Y’all:

I went to the Clippers game last Friday and survived the tornado in downtown Atlanta. But it was worth it. It was worth it because I saw something different about this Atlanta Hawk team that was on the floor that night. I saw plays being run smothly,good defense, excellent passing, and exhuberant enthusiassm from the team as if they knew they have something differnt going on. I believe this diffence is what the sports community in Atlanta have been requesting. The team needed a point guard. Not just any point guard. But a point guard this can shoot, dribble, pass, and THINK on the court. They finally got on in Mike Bibby. A well seasoned NBA point guard. We tried to find one through the draft, but that did not work. Now I am greatful and happy we got Bibby because he is more than good and is still young. He fits right in with these guys. More than that, he knows and encourages this young bunch to run with him. And believe me looking at the game on Friday, the team was having fun and I was amazed and had fun watching them. I am not surprised that they are on a win streak. the point guard play is the missing link to all this great young talent the Hawks has assembled over the years. Coach Woodson is now seeing his groove because he now has a coach on the floor who knows and plays the game better than anyone. Bibby will help everybody reach their potential. And the young point guards on the team will learn from his play. I know Woodson is smiling to the bank because now he will be able to do the things he envisioned in bringing a championship to Atlanta. This will be a fun and exciting run to the playoff. And once Atlanta get’s in I believe a lot of teams are going to be afraid because they know Atlanta has the missing element: a point guard name Mike Bibby.

SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! This is a SECRET from a HAWK FAN!!!! TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Barry

March 19, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Hey Y’all:

I went to the Clippers game last Friday and survived the tornado in downtown Atlanta. But it was worth it. It was worth it because I saw something different about this Atlanta Hawk team that was on the floor that night. I saw plays being run smothly,good defense, excellent passing, and exhuberant enthusiassm from the team as if they knew they have something differnt going on. I believe this diffence is what the sports community in Atlanta have been requesting. The team needed a point guard. Not just any point guard. But a point guard this can shoot, dribble, pass, and THINK on the court. They finally got on in Mike Bibby. A well seasoned NBA point guard. We tried to find one through the draft, but that did not work. Now I am greatful and happy we got Bibby because he is more than good and is still young. He fits right in with these guys. More than that, he knows and encourages this young bunch to run with him. And believe me looking at the game on Friday, the team was having fun and I was amazed and had fun watching them. I am not surprised that they are on a win streak. the point guard play is the missing link to all this great young talent the Hawks has assembled over the years. Coach Woodson is now seeing his groove because he now has a coach on the floor who knows and plays the game better than anyone. Bibby will help everybody reach their potential. And the young point guards on the team will learn from his play. I know Woodson is smiling to the bank because now he will be able to do the things he envisioned in bringing a championship to Atlanta. This will be a fun and exciting run to the playoff. And once Atlanta get’s in I believe a lot of teams are going to be afraid because they know Atlanta has the missing element: a point guard name Mike Bibby.

SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! This is a SECRET from a HAWK FAN!!!! TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Barry

March 19, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Hey Y’all:

I went to the Clippers game last Friday and survived the tornado in downtown Atlanta. But it was worth it. It was worth it because I saw something different about this Atlanta Hawk team that was on the floor that night. I saw plays being run smothly,good defense, excellent passing, and exhuberant enthusiassm from the team as if they knew they have something differnt going on. I believe this diffence is what the sports community in Atlanta have been requesting. The team needed a point guard. Not just any point guard. But a point guard this can shoot, dribble, pass, and THINK on the court. They finally got on in Mike Bibby. A well seasoned NBA point guard. We tried to find one through the draft, but that did not work. Now I am greatful and happy we got Bibby because he is more than good and is still young. He fits right in with these guys. More than that, he knows and encourages this young bunch to run with him. And believe me looking at the game on Friday, the team was having fun and I was amazed and had fun watching them. I am not surprised that they are on a win streak. the point guard play is the missing link to all this great young talent the Hawks has assembled over the years. Coach Woodson is now seeing his groove because he now has a coach on the floor who knows and plays the game better than anyone. Bibby will help everybody reach their potential. And the young point guards on the team will learn from his play. I know Woodson is smiling to the bank because now he will be able to do the things he envisioned in bringing a championship to Atlanta. This will be a fun and exciting run to the playoff. And once Atlanta get’s in I believe a lot of teams are going to be afraid because they know Atlanta has the missing element: a point guard name Mike Bibby.

SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! This is a SECRET from a HAWK FAN!!!! TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Astro Joe

March 19, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Doc, thanks. I was kind of hoping you would prescribe a mammoth-sized cheesesteak and fries to fix my shoulder. Oh well.

Big game tonight. I hope the train ride to NY/NJ gave the fellows another bonding opp. NJ may very well pack their bags for the summer if we put it on them tonight. I’m expecting a big game from Mr. Smith. I can feel it in my bum shoulder… just like the impending rain storms.

By JerseyHawk

March 19, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Hawk fan living in Jersey here- HUGE game tonight, going to try and get to the swamps to see it. I must agree with a previous poster though, the Penguin (we refer to Marvin here in Jersey as “The Penguin”) is the KEY to the Hawks. If he is hitting his shot and can be depended on for 14-18 ppg, they can play with most teams. The thing that disspoints me most is when they start to struggle, they become very stagnant on offense. No movement, to much 1 on 1, and Woody does not seem to do anything to fix it. We will see, the jury is out on him, these last 15 games will tell the tale. the Penguin is the key!

By Ken Strickland

March 19, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

MATT-let me take your excellent train of thought a little further. Based on CLYDE’S assessment of what makes a player a better defender, Dennis Rodman wasn’t effective. After all, how many shots did he block. What about Bruce Bowen, Scottie Pippen or Michael Jordan. What about Shaq in his prime? Wes Unseld was an outstanding DEF center at only 6’7” and didn’t do it blocking shots. Paul Silas and Bill Bridges weren’t bad either, and they weren’t known for blocking shots.

CLYDE-how many shotblockers are on that outstanding DEF team in Detroit? Who was the shotblocker on those dominant DEF, championship winning teams in Chicago, with Jordan and Pippin? Hopefully, you can deduce from what’s been presented that you need to adjust your stance on the matter. After all, the fact that we already have the #2 shotblocker in the NBA on the team should tell you something.

By terrell barron

March 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Just heard that Dallas Coach Avery Johnson could be out at end of season, if Mavericks dont make the WC Finals. And they wont! Would you guys like to see him in Atlanta if this happens? He’s young, enthusiastic, and most importantly, he’s a Nellie disciple.

By terrell barron

March 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Damn, it was just reported that the Hawks have reached out to Donnie Walsh. This spells the end of the Bk, Woody regime. Playoffs or not!

By terrell barron

March 19, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Dr. B, I think you mean Mark Jackson. I mentioned his name a year ago, to replace Woodrow.

By fudd21

March 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

TB where did you see the report about Donnie Walsh?

By Jo Bling

March 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

This whole “discussion” with Clyde has been very interesting. Many of you have raised excellent points to refute the idiocy of Clyde’s argument, but one that no one seems to have mentioned so far - at least directly - is this:

Al Horford is a WINNER. He’s been a winner everywhere he’s played, and he will be with Atlanta soon. The boy plays with a fire in his heart.

Sean Williams is a pot-smoking third-stringer.

Enough said.