Hawks

By Hawkamanic81

February 21, 2008 2:17 AM | Link to this

I can’t handle this franchise anymore. 10 freakin years in a row they’ve failed to give Hawk fans some happyness. TEN YEARS in a row. I’ve gave up on ths franchise.

There is nothing else I can do. I can’t even enjoy the sport of basketball anymore because of these guys. All they do is lose lose lose. That’s all they will continue to do.

They have poor coaching and a roster full of role players. That’s right, almost every player on the Hawks roster is a future role player.

By Contra

February 21, 2008 2:20 AM | Link to this

this franchise is a lost cause

By ray

February 21, 2008 2:28 AM | Link to this

Geeeez. We don’t need to lose Law.

Well, the effort was better. You can tell however, that the team is still being mis-managed and mis-coached during games. Bibby showed up like a real man. And it’s obvious that he has that stroke, especially from behind the arc. We’ve struggled on the road all season. And trying to gel like this after a major trade, on the road, against the tougher western competition…well, it’s not a recipe for success, that’s for sure. I don’t know that we’ll go 0-5 on this trip, but if we do….yeah, it’s a big problem. We need some home cooking.

I thought for a hot second that Woodson might be able to do better with a guy like Bibby around. I’m still reserving judgement, but I’m definitely leaning in a particuar direction if you know what I mean.

Also, that stuff Michael Gearon was saying: listen closely and read between the lines. Gearon said that Woody never complained despite the organization’s turmoil. No $hit. You don’t complain when someone offers you your first shot at a head coaching job. That’s a good way to garner unwanted attention. Gearon says that now Woody has the veteran point guard that he never had. Damn straight. Read the writing on the wall, Woody. You have what you and everyone else says you need to take this team to the next level. Get it done. By saying what he did, Gearon has just basically all but admitted that between ownership and management, what Woody needed was not being provided…until now.

By Clyde

February 21, 2008 2:29 AM | Link to this

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

The Hawks can’t win for losing. Boy Chris Paul had a big night tonight but Billy and Woody wanted a veteran point guard. Enough is Enough.

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By chris

February 21, 2008 2:36 AM | Link to this

Five words: DJ Augustine, University of Texas.

By chris

February 21, 2008 2:42 AM | Link to this

Five words: DJ Augistine, University of Texas.

By tony

February 21, 2008 3:24 AM | Link to this

how could any of u want to watch this team play after seeing how these owners have allowed bk to destroy this franchise. i do not watch this team play because i refuse to give these no good owners 1 cent of my money. whoever go to watch this team play got to be losing their minds. if u want change stay away from the games!!!!!!!!!

By Najeh Davenpoop

February 21, 2008 3:28 AM | Link to this

Five more words: Fire Mike Woodson Right Now.

By Steven

February 21, 2008 4:23 AM | Link to this

Can’t wait 4 baseball season

By 1999 and counting

February 21, 2008 4:45 AM | Link to this

Josh Smith is a good shot blocker and dunker….but does anyone notice how many times a game he throws up the UGLIEST LOOKING SHOTS? Horrible Misses. The ones the do go in seem to be pure luck. He also makes other mistakes too…horrible passes…etc. They outweigh his amazing blocks.

He’s INCONSISTENT

Joe Johnson doesnt seem like he wants to be a leader as well. Just a pretty good scorer. Role players on others teams come up more clutch than him.

This is sad…as of right now if i wanted consistent shots knocked down I’d rather see this guy Richardson takin them more than anyone else on the team (sad huh?)

Screw these guys we need some PLAYERS

Acie had an excuse earlier because he’s a ROOKIE but seems to be coming around now

Acie,Richardson,Horford,Bibby, Childress(maybe)

are the only people I’d FOR CERTAIN want to hang on to for the NEVER ENDING rebuilding process in ATL.

for all I care ship the others out and try to find some CONSISTENT guys

By RA

February 21, 2008 4:46 AM | Link to this

Finally, an issue you can’t blame Billy Knight for…

By el el

February 21, 2008 5:36 AM | Link to this

The problem I had with last night’s game is Zaza’s play. I was a huge fan of his after his first year here, but I’m a disgusted at how much his game seems to have digressed. Not once in his 15 minutes of play did I see him box out or get in position for a defensive rebound, and to be honest I’m tired of seeing it.

I wish Coach Woodson would give Solo more of a chance, I know he gets pushed around time to time by stronger big men, but at least he tries on the defensive side of the ball.

By Edo River

February 21, 2008 5:38 AM | Link to this

Mr. Smith, Draw in a deep breath. Remember to smile at your wife and kids. Repeat, “It’s just a game of rich Americans (just like me ;-)”. When you write about gains or losses, look clear through this. Keep up your humor and patience. This is a spiritual thing, and you need your focus not to let the storm of emotions sway you from reality. These “kids” are getting paid for this. Its what they bought into. So, let them reap what they sew. Your humor will help you brush off the anger and frustration of others, like unwanted white lint on a black suit; it isn’t your frustration.

I tell you, any time you want to relax, and find out about reality, let me know and we’ll meet in one of two places; one is Mosul Iraq, and the other is in Israel.

By Jim Mora Sr.

February 21, 2008 5:42 AM | Link to this

Playoffs? Playoffs? Don’t talk about playoffs!

By Pete Babcock

February 21, 2008 5:46 AM | Link to this

How do ya like me now?

By Bob Rathbun

February 21, 2008 6:03 AM | Link to this

The Hawks will be fine. They will be in the playoffs as long as they beat other sorry a* teams in the East. However, after that they will get swept in the 1st round.

By cj

February 21, 2008 6:26 AM | Link to this

Trade,Trade,Trade.Trade Josh Smith and Josh Childress and Zaza Pachulia and Speedy Claxton and Solomon Jones for a all star player a star ok.

By JohnGTFan

February 21, 2008 6:27 AM | Link to this

We all saw this coming…only 2 games after the trade, people are losing faith. This trade for Bibby will work out! You can’t judge this team on a 5 game road trip, much less the 2 games in!!!! I do however think ATL has to find a way to get at least one win, hopefully 2(won’t happen in San Antonio).

But YOU CAN’T JUDGE AFTER 2 GAMES.

By TechMan

February 21, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this

Ok, I stayed up late 2 nights in a row and nothing to show for it. I can’t keep doing this. I’ve followed the hawks since their first year in Atlanta and this team reminds me alot of the Mike Sojourner, John Brown, Tom Henderson, Dwight Jones. Mediocre at best. At least back then..when I stayed up late Skip Carey was just starting and he was funny to listen to unlike last nights announcers. I have Two words - Hawks stink!

By reddawg

February 21, 2008 7:15 AM | Link to this

As long as the Hawks have Tweedle Dee & Tweedle dumb as coach and GM, they could trade for Larry Bird and Michael Jordan and still lose. Atlanta has exactly what it deserves. You just can’t fix stupidity.

By Rich

February 21, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this

Bibby is the real deal, Horford a future All-Star, JJ & JSmith keepers, Acie w/ great potential…it ain’t gonna happen this year but the Hawks are a coach & a center away from being contenders. If you can make a deal for a coach, do it now & get a jump start on next year. Bibby showed great heart last night—hope he finishes his career here.

By Left to Right

February 21, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

Fire Woodson. Fire Knight.

Fire Don Waddell.

Steve Belkin, you are gaining more and more support in Atlanta.

By msDee

February 21, 2008 7:26 AM | Link to this

I say let’s ship Joe JOhnson & salim for a great BIG & good bk-up Point!! Joe isn’t the “all-star” for us, and Salim isn’t getting it done for us either. I say let a new starting 5 take us own home with Bibby,J Rich,Josh Smith,Al H, & new center..on bench is new bk-up point,Chills,MArvin,Zaza,Solo

By Willie Coyote

February 21, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

Richardson made a few shots, let’s not annoint him the franchise savior just yet.

It’s so hard to watch this team. The current lack of defense is troubling and the damn refs make it hard to watch any game at all.

By smartguy

February 21, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

FIRE WOODSON NOW

FIRE WOODSON NOW

FIRE WOODSON NOW

By JohnGTFan

February 21, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

Rich

I completely agree with you. And I think Richardson should get a contract for the rest of the season based off his 1st 2 games. But “goofy” and ZaZa have to go. I can’t stand either one. They’re both awkward, play NO defense(not that JJ does either), and can be traded for a center. He doesn’t have to be a STUD! But A big body…someone who can rebound and play some defense will do! But, no more trades will be made, so ZaZa and Solo will have to step up BIG! If they do, I still believe the Hawks have a shot at the playoffs. People forget how tough the west coast trip is….I mean come on! By the time ATL gets back home, they could really go on a run because Bibby and the rest of the team will be more comfortable with each other. All ATL needs is a 6-4 or 7-3 stretch…Philly and Indy are playing well…but not exactly “intimidating”. It’s easy to see them losing 5 or 6 in a row. If that happens…ATL could jump all the way up to 6…especially with Washington’s struggles.

Just my opinion

By Jon

February 21, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

10 words: We don’t have a first rounder. This is your team

By DRow

February 21, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Sekou what is the news on Acie this morning, is it good news or are we in trouble.

By The Candy Man

February 21, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

I’ve got a few questions for all you sucka MCs who think you’re fly (and the Blog Z-ers who THINK they know squat about basketball):

Why is your team 0-2 with a future first-ballot Hall of Famer at PG? (For the hard of thinking, that was sarcasm.)

Why do some of you say, “well, at least we played hard”? (Talking about damning with faint praise! It’s not like these clowns have to get up and go to work in the morning. Shouldn’t they play hard every night?)

What do you think of Josh Smith’s “shot”? (The fact that someone with so little SKILL is praised by the inhabitants of this blog is a clear example of why the NBA circa 2008 sucks so hard.)

Word up!

By Jay

February 21, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Where the hell is Joe Johnson? He needs to step it up big time!!!!!!!

By Bravesfan79

February 21, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

What have i said for the past 4 or 5 years?? Oyea… THE HAWKS ARE CURSED FOR TRADING NIQUE!!
The Hawks lack of loyalty is why im Rockets/Celtics fan!
Not only did they trade my favorite player of all time, they traded him to Sibera (clipper land) where i never got to see him play again! (was 2 poor for satellite growing up) And for WHAT!?? Danny freakin Manning, the rent a crap player. I HATE you Pete Babsuckacock and to this day i STILL wanna punch you in your face.
Billy Knight is a terrible GM, but to me….that pecker pettie babsuckacock is the worst GM in Hawks history.

By Conga

February 21, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

They need to cease operations with this entire Hawks franchise, give the players to other teams and fire all management/coaches. This team is an eyesore!

By TURTSNAP

February 21, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

Hawks suck!

By Arkansas Traveler

February 21, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Josh Smith’s ‘Shot?’ You don’t need a shot in the NBA. All you do is take about 3 dribbles past midcourt and take of running for the basket. Anything less than 12 steps will never be called traveling. Or hop your way to the basket and call it a jump stop. See how easy it is?

By RB

February 21, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Maybe one day the light will come on in Bknights head and he will realize how much time he wasted with Woodson. That’s if the light has not already blown. Mark my word, Sheldon Williams is getting ready to soar!!!!

By EJ

February 21, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

If the Hawks make the playoffs (regardless of their record) BK will give Woodson a 5 year contract extension. Be careful what you wish for!!!!!

By Rich

February 21, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Candy Man, Good point about JSmith—got to learn to make a medium range jumper & learn to dribble. BUT, the raw talent is undeniable…he needs to be coached by someone who can help him develop.

By preston

February 21, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Wiley Coyote- I would not annoint Richardson as the savior of the hawks either…..but why not ride a guy who seems to have his shot going better than anyone else? That is the thing that gets me with Woody, there is no deviation from his script…….a guy like Richardson can come in off the bench and score in bunches when we need it the most, and all Woody will do is pull the guy after he has played his minutes, and pat him on the back, and we will not see the guy again for the game…..and this is one of the things that is killing the hawks….Woody just does not come up with anything other than “Plan A”………everybody knows who takes the last shots in games for the hawks…….and Joe Johnson can be blindfolded, hopping along on crutches, with his shooting arm in a sling…..and guess what……..Woody would still give him the ball to take the last shot!

By Dan

February 21, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

MATEEN CLEAVESP!!!! He is playing in Greece right now. Go get him.

By Dan

February 21, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

MATEEN CLEAVES!!!! He is playing in Greece right now. Go get him.

By jp

February 21, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

No seriously, what is it gonna take to fire Woody? What more has to go wrong with this team?

By JM

February 21, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

No explaination is really needed. This is not a good team. Call it coaching, skill vs talent, a rash of injuries, whatever. This is not a good team. Hasn’t been for years and years. It’s nice that we can stop blaming the PG position now and just look at the rest of the mess. It’s similar to the Falcons losing Vick. Oddly, the Hawks had to add a player to expose thei myriad weaknesses while the Falcons had to subtract one. In either case, the teams are badly built and managed. In both, solutions are guessed at rather than figured out. In reality, was the PG and playiff push needed this year rather than having the cap flexibility over the summer to add a few midrange players and hire someone to instill some leadership on this team. That, however, has been nixed in favor of a “bling” signing at the trade deadline as though it matters if the Hawks don’t make the playoff or get blown out in the first round.

Can you legitimately look at this trade and say that Bibby is progress, especially over the long haul?

Ok, to switch the anger to last night’s game: Why did Horford play 40+ minutes? Does MW feel obligated to run at least one player into the ground on a nightly basis? Were Solo and others not OK to pick up the fouls the rest of the team was accruing? Yeesh.

Memo: Hawks are like Falcons.

Hasta, and lets have some straight commentary rather than searching for the bright side.

By terrell barron

February 21, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

There’s really nothing left to say, but good luck next year.

By Rutuger

February 21, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

FIRE MIKE WOODSON

By Who cares

February 21, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

MIKe WOODSON IS AN IDIOT WHEN ITS COMES TO RUNNING A BASKETBALL TEAM AND PREPARING THEM TO PLAY. I CANT BEIEVE THIS HAS GONE ON THIS LONG. WHO GIVES A DAMN ABOUT THE HAWKS. SELL THE TEAM, GET EM OUT THE CITY, GIVE THE ARENA TO THE ATLANTA DREAM, GO DREAM, GO DREAM, GO DREAM, GO DREAM!!!

By cbwonder

February 21, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

I understand the frustaration from everyone on the vent, but when it is all said and done the hawks wiil make the playoffs and woodson for all of his shortcomings will not be fired. Of course we will probably be bounced in the first round, but I would rather go to the dance than not go at all. Alsothis team is only one or two bigs away from being really scary.

By I.MUS WRITE

February 21, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

I.MUS join the masses….. For the billionth dam time “Fire Woody” That man does’nt have a clue…….

JJ…… 16 points aient enough,we need more from our all star player 7-12 and 1-5 on 3’s…. Where has your shot gone……..

If you look at the box scores Francisco Garcia outplayed JJ, do i really need to say anymore.

Jeremy Richardson put up 7 points in 8 minutes … JJ 16 pts in 29 minutes… this doesnt look good at all. I agree we shouldnt annoint J.Rich the savior of this franchise but its clear the guy is a player and most important- the guy has range-sign him now……

My manz Horford had another solid performance last night- This man has gotta be ROY-straight stud

By kshizzle

February 21, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

I’m bothered by the fact that we have had top picks for several years and have basically nothing to show for it. If we had the propper talent evaluators (Billy Knight Stinks), we would be a lot better. Marvin is a good shooter and decent rebounder, but that is it. He gets the ball stolen all the time. Take him off and put Chris Paul on the team (how many are we better by I say +10 wins). Then you have the good ole #5 pick of Shelden Williams. First we wasted the pick on him and then we don’t even play him and now we trade him. How does picking and not playing him make sense. Let’s see who we could have got if Billy Knight would have went away from his 6’9” guys. Try, Brandon Roy (He is already a superstar), he kicked our butts in Portland when we should have had the game won. Roy makes us better. Now go back to the two Josh’s year. I like the pick of Josh Smith so no problem there. But taking Childress at 6???? He is a good player, but you should be getting a major star at that point. We could have had Luol Deng or Andre Iguodala. They are both major scorers now, something we sorely lack. Our Draft this year was the only good one I can remember. So tell me is our stating line up today better then this: Chris Paul (PG), Brandon Roy (SG), Joe Johnson (SF), Josh Smith (PF) Al Hartford (C). We could have had all this without any additional trades then what had already been done. The Hawks are pittiful. Babcock and now Knight as GM. This is ridiculous. I thank Dominique for all those great years and his ability to make me believe that our team could win any game because he was on our team. We haven’t had a person like that since him. We have missed 15 years of oportunities I’m sure. I haven’t went back and looked at everyone we missed, but the bottom line in the NBA is you have to have a Superstar in order to have a chance and we haven’t since Dominque. Everytime we play a team with one of them we get beat.

By Jo Bling

February 21, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Man, you people are some of the most fair-weather fans I’ve ever seen. Get real! Flash back to two days ago. Everyone of the current whiners on this board was awash in ecstasy over the Bibby trade. The talk just 48 hours ago was not whether the Hawks would make the playoffs, but how far they would go in the playoffs.

As I said yesterday, the irony of this trade is the timing. It’s a GREAT trade, and will be down the road. The problem is that it came at the start of a ridiculous western road trip. We could have traded for Michael Jordan in his prime and still go 0 for 5 against this lineup of juggernauts (Sacramento notwithstanding). You can’t seriously expect to remove four semi-to-moderate contributors from a team, add a new player to run the whole show, and expect immediate results against teams like these.

Last night was our best shot at a win on this trip, and it didn’t happen. But that doesn’t mean the season ended last night. It’s not over folks! Let’s pray that Acie is alright, get this trip behind us, and then get on with turning this thing around. The season is not over.

By Tom

February 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Ummm, hey Woody, what about Salim? He can play the point if need be. woody says after the trade that Salim and Solo will be getting more PT? Ok, when? You can see Salim has had it with Woodson. After Richardson got the call to go in before Salim last ight, you could see his demanor change. Woody must have NO confidence in Salim to leave him on the bench like that and not even mention him as an option if Acie is out. Woody is heading to the D league before Salim. Wow.

By MikeJones

February 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

It’s called the curse of the Nique trade and it has to be excersized out of the organization. It is a full blown curse that doesn’t get the pub that that the cubs curse gets. But it is very real people. It’s best to just think of the hawks as something comical that brings you laughter during your day.

By cbwonder

February 21, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

I understand the frustaration from everyone on the vent, but when it is all said and done the hawks wiil make the playoffs and woodson for all of his shortcomings will not be fired. Of course we will probably be bounced in the first round, but I would rather go to the dance than not go at all. Alsothis team is only one or two bigs away from being really scary.

By Disgruntled Hawks Fan

February 21, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Also, given the Hawks “Luck”, we will miss the playoffs, and then somehow win the lottery!!! Oh, but it gets better. Our pick is owed to Phoenix this year!!!!!! Great stuff!!!! Talk about salt in a freaking wound. Time to FIRE WOODY. Also, hopefully Acie is not hurt bad…looks like we need another move now. Sheesh. TIME TO FIRE MIKE WOODSON. I am sure one of the assistance can do better than Mike.

By richbrave

February 21, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Patience Hawks fans. It takes time to build a winner. You are close.

Keep the Fab Five. With Bibby and Acie that should be a Fab Seven in two years. You can’t afford to lose a player comparable to Caron Butler in Josh Smith. Get a deal done. Childress is a must. Horford is going to be a monster #4. I don’t know the Hawks cap-room, but I would suggest building a coat-room next it to sign these five, viz: Childress, Williams, Horford, Johnson, and Smith.

Regarding the FIRE BILLY supporters. Sometimes when you have a #1 pick in the draft you get Kwame Brown. You make a 17 year-old independently wealthy, have an NBA legend break him down, and get Caron Butler when he washes out. Don’t expect perfection from your GM. Where did Bibby,Smith and Horford come from? If Bibby washes out you’ve lost nothing other than Anthony Johnson and a #2 pick.(Tyronne Lue? LW - plueezzee!!).

If you need a coach that can develop players like Eddie Jordan does with the Wizards then do it. Whatever it takes. That should please 70% of the posters on this blog anyway. Hey, Larry Brown on the rebound? Whatta’ ya’ say?

By Willie Coyote

February 21, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Preston, I agree that Rich needs more minutes. I was just responding to some comments that he should be the new starter and that JJ was expendable. If he (Rich)can continue to stretch the defense the way he has in his few minutes so far, I think he should be here to stay and play a big role off the bench for us. But since Woody is from the Larry Brown mold of not wanting to play his players, we all are probably just wasting time talking about it.

By Ben Moore

February 21, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Will Blaylock gets your bags ready man. We need you in the A.

Sekou let him know he is ready!

By Mike Woodson

February 21, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Suckers.

By kwooden1

February 21, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

As for the game last night Zaza played terrible and Josh Smith got schooled by Artest. JJ got in foul trouble, which limited his minutes. That pretty much sums up the game for me, not a bad game, but definitely things to work on. Obviously the most pressing thing about the game is Acie hurting his wrist again, lets hope that its just a bruise. Bibby looks good, it felt like the Hawks made more 3’s in this game than the last 10. This road trip is going to be a killer, but they really need to get Zaza to rebound and play some defense. Woody used the bench well enough last night, but we all believe Solo needed to get sometime. Overall I’m disappointed in the game, but I saw some improvement and chemistry. It was a good game for Josh Smith because he got to see what a serious PF can do and Josh knows he needs to get tougher on the boards and improve his man defense.

Guys, keep working hard and Acie get better quick!

GO HAWKS!!

By new jersey faithful

February 21, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Is it me or does J SMITH have the WORST moves in and around the paint? 1999 and counting was dead on in his post. I really really really hope AC is ok, he was just starting to play well the last few games. I just got NBA pass(what a mistake) for the second half and hopeful playoff run. How in the world have you people been watching this team for the last few years?? I’ve watched the last 5 or so games and get so frustrated at this team, I can only imagine whats its been like to watch this team the last few years. Childress and Horford are the only ones who look like they know what they are doing. I would really love to see if a new coach would turn these guys around, or to see if they’ll still suck @ss

By Al 2 the Ex

February 21, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

You guys look at the bright side of things. Were still gonna have a lottery pick this year!!! Oh wait. I forgot we traded that a couple years back. This season is pointless.

Fire WOODSON

By Al 2 the Ex

February 21, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

You guys look at the bright side of things. Were still gonna have a lottery pick this year!!! Oh wait. I forgot we traded that a couple years back. This season is pointless.

Fire WOODY the Woodpecker now!

By Ted Turner

February 21, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Suckers.

By MR. 404

February 21, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Get Earl Calloway from the D-League at PG

By moe

February 21, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

bibby won’t work out until the next home game

By randy

February 21, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

HAHAHA. All of our point guards are hurt. Sounds familiar. Now we have to play Salim or some D-Leaguer at point…What is more hilarious, the fact that 3 out of the 8 teams that make the Eastern Conference Playoffs will have losing records and the Hawks won’t be one of those 3 teams.

Move this franchise to another city, THEY STINK!

By paul

February 21, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

40 minutes per night is starting to take its toll on Joe’s body.

By DarkRyder

February 21, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

richbrave I’m calling you out on this one sir. It seems we have the same philosophy when seeing how this team of highly-talented players are playing out of their element. Small ball tactics is the way to go, just like the Wizards.

I guarantee if you brought in an Eddie Jordan clone this team would prosper. The Wizards will be fine once they get Gilbert and Caron back. I see them as the sixth seed beating Orlando and Detroit. Hamilton will get worked by Stevenson and Haywood has improved to the point where he is a force down low.

You may ask why am I discussing the Wizards? Well, it will be nice to talk about one team that IS going to the playoffs…

….oh yes the Hawks? I guess we can talk about them as well. Didn’t I tell you all immediately after this trade to LOOK AT THE UPCOMING SCHEDULE?

Did any of you heed my advice? No, you were too busy living in fantasy land. Guarded optimism was what I offered, and you all balked.

I told you all this would not be pretty, as once again bad timing plagued Knight’s decision, however good it may have been. They might get away with one at Golden State, but that will be it.

They will come back to Atlanta 4 1/2 games out of the playoffs, and where will you all be then? So join me, Ando, and others as we lament together the fall of an organization.

ANAKIN JOE your destiny awaits you. No need to wait.

By randy

February 21, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

I am convinced if Chris Paul or Deron Williams were on the Hawks they would be mediocre point guards on this team. Can you imagine how much Woody would stunt their progress? Plus, the Hawks are cursed, Atlanta is where players come to die.

FIRE WOODY and BK or MOVE THE FRANCHISE!!

By G-thang

February 21, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

No paul what you mean to say is that 40 minutes a night and losing, horribly is taking it’s toll on Joe’s psyche, not his body.

By Hawksville Resident

February 21, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

I think we should trade Marvin Zaza and Salim for a solid big and safety pg. Chills has consistently outplayed Marvin all of 08 and the Richardson kid can flat out score the ball and I like his enthusiasm. All we need is a big and a coach. But I also think we can make the playoffs with what we have now, the trade though makes us contenders for the next 5 years.

By ugaman

February 21, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

First time poster: Observations: Is it me or does it seem that we are severely outmanned in the paint in every game? We are supposed to be “long & athletic” but when you are jumping against front lines with 6’10’-7’ players that are athletic as well, then Horford and Smith get exposed as playing out of position. They are playing hard, but when you have to continually jump while other players can stand there and reach the same height, then the odds are against you of being able to compete consistently in the paint. As far as being the running team that everyone wants, it seems to me that we really aren’t skilled enough to run consistently. Maybe Bibby will change this, but when your bigs keep rebounding the ball and dribbling halfway down the court, it gives the other team time to catch up. I have watched us get outrun be bigger teams over and over because not only do they give the ball to a couple of playmakers to get the ball down court, but they also load their rosters with shooters that spot up and drain the ball over and over, ala the Lakers (Radmonovich, Voyachich?, Fisher, Farmar; Suns: Barbosa, Nash, Hill; Kings, Martin, Ulrich, Garcia) Over time, we just can’t compete with this and it causes fatigue in the legs to continually chase down shooters while battling bigger players every night. Now, our bench is too short to run all game long as some have suggested, and even if it was deeper, Woodson doesn’tlet his bench play consistently enough to find any rythm. What we have friends is a recipe and roster that is set up for inconsistent play and frustration like we have witnessed over and over again. Trading Rasheed Wallace to Detroit and not signing consistent shooters has killed this franchise and now, since we don’t have any amore cap room and no draft picks, there isn’t much hope for improvement. I only hope that somehow Bibby can be the difference maker everyone has been asking for and we can find a coach who is creative enough to find a way to maximize the talent that is on the roster because it’s not happening now. Either way, I’m a life long Hawks fan and will continue to put myself in misery watching this team until one day I may be rewarded with a consistent winner. By the way, for all of you who say that the Hawks have been irrelevant since Dominique, I beg to differ. If not for MJ and the Bulls, the Hawks with Mooke, Smith & Dikembe could have really made some noise in their prime. They consistently won 50 games and were ousted in the playoffs several years by those Bulls, but they played the Bulls well. I always felt that if they had kept that team together one more year, they would have had a shot the season after MJ retired because they were very fundamentally sound and talented even though they were a liitle old then. They just ran into a buzzsaw in the Knicks playing without Ewing the last year they made the playoffs. With a little tweaking, they could have run the table the following year, but instead, they made the worst deal ever to acquire Rider and Jackson from Portland. Oh Well, what could have been. That move set this franchise back years, and we are still trying to climb our way out of that hoe. Sorry for the long post. Just had a lot to say.

By BK I HOPE UR READING

February 21, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

**BILLY: YOU HAVE A LITTLE LESS THAN 3 HOURS.

1) FIRE MIKE WOODSON RIGHT NOW. BIBBY NEEDS A REAL COACH

2) TRADE MARVIN FOR PETRO AND JEFF GREEN ON SEATTLE

3) GET JAMAL TATUM and WILL BLAYLOCK

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

GET RID OF THE MW CURSES: WOODSON AND MARVIN

THANK YOU**

By richbrave

February 21, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

DARKRYDER:

Thanks for the post man. Sounds like you and I agree on some things.

A Jordan clone.

Keeping WILLIAMS AND JOHNSON to trade later for a big say in ‘10.

So we’re saying, ZaZa #5, Horford #4, J.Smith #3, J. Johnson #2, and Bibby #1 with AC and Rich for reserves, Childress super #6, Williams where needed. Salim? Where? And the rest. No picks in ‘09.

Remember I’ve just started paying any attention to the Hawks. Only noticed their play one time this year. Still not sure of who plays where on this team. Just learning from you guys and my lady, drmaryb.

Absolutely necessary to work out contracts with Fab Five then trade two and maybe AC or Salim in ‘10 with draft picks for the MAN in the middle. And voila’ you have THE team you all want. Maybe Roy Hibbert in ‘10. Depending on where he is at that time.

But I don’t want that team, ‘cause you’ll be creating internal disruptions to my digestive tract when they pass the Wizards on their way to a championship.

By robdawg06

February 21, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

All I gotta say today is if the Hawks owners still approve of Billy Knight and Mike Woodson after their tenures of running this franchise into the ground with Billy’s butt ugly drafts and pathetic trades (except hopefully Bibby) and Mike’s non-coaching abilities then I’m done with this team. We fans have stuck with this team thru 10 years of LOSING. Franshises are supposed to run in cycles with the winning and losing. This team has been on a 10 year losing cycle. Management HAS to go. Oh yeah, I still want a franchise center if you have to trade J.Johson,Childress,and Zaza to get one. I think that player is Ben Wallace but it could be another center. This team does not play with confidence either. You’ve got to beieve you will win every game. This team looks like the city throw together street ball teams that have to play the AND1 all-stars. No chance to win.

By DarkRyder

February 21, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Feel better now ugaman? Sounded like you had a lot of venting that needed to be done.

Good points, especially about the Hawks during the Mookie era.

Also, last night was a microcosm of what will happen the rest of the year thanks to Woodson’s coaching. Atlanta is too small to play man to man, and as long as they keep doing that their main guys (Smoove, Horford, JJ) will always be in early foul trouble, thus rendering them ineffective on the defensive end.

Actually there is one way to salvage this, and that’s to obtain a big that can give himself up for six fouls. That’s what Shelden was good for, even if his offense was so bad he couldn’t score in a brothel. He could dispel Al for at least 10 minutes.

If they can’t get anyone else, then there’s only one thing to do: and that’s move Marvin Williams to the bench.

You say how does that help? Simple. Having Al and Zaza in the same lineup will keep opponents somewhat at bay. This way you enable Al and Josh to be the frontcourt tandem that will allow offenses to rely on shooting more. Also, it will enable them to play more man to man without Al ending up in early foul trouble.

As for Marvin, yeah I’ve heard the excuses. “He’s the second pick, it won’t justify picking him or Paul or Deron, etc, etc, etc…”

Yeah Yeah Yeah Whatever. He may be good on offense but he provides no defensive presence whatsoever. He can be the go to sixth man and along with Childress gives Atlanta a formidable bench.

Ok, what to do about inside presence off the bench. This is where Solomon Jones comes in. Don’t give me this crap that he’s not ready. I’ve seen Andray Blatche of the Wizards come off the bench (sometimes start) and give 13/8 sometimes, and he was drafted the same time as Solomon, a second round pick out of high school with the same skill set.

Atlanta can go small ball off the bench, but it’s not wise to start off the game that way.

By doc

February 21, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

gonna be a very long off season with absolutely nothing to talk about as we sink further from the playoffs and no draft choices. i guess we can ponder if a real coach would come in or to give the reins to one of the assistants.

team was toast in charlotte and further backed into a corner when the trade came down. needed a change in january and maybe an effort to get the shooter back then rather than the wholesale turnover as the sun was setting on the playoff chances when the move was made. there was no buffer to falling further as the team adjusted to a guard that might be able to help them, unfortunately it is next year.

if acie is down then this is one that was predictable based on acie’s injuries in the past. stuckey would have been a huge addition but noooooo!

By Najeh Davenpoop

February 21, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

A good trade to make before today’s 3 PM deadline: Zaza Pachulia for a bag of weed. You get pretty good value for Zaza, and ease the minds of the players and coaches on the team, who are no doubt very stressed out right now. Only question is, who is willing to give up that much for Zaza at this point?

By I.MUS WRITE

February 21, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Forgot all abot Jamal Tatum, The kid looked good in camp, surely he is worthy of a 10 day contract.

Itz official now -I really hate Marvins game -trade the guy for picks and servicable big

PRYZ,Petro,Curry

A real coach would: be a teacher for our yungnz, develope our players ,run some type of offense,have players playing to their strengths. Get this clown outta twn…. Woodson is a joke im sik of this shyt

By Lil E

February 21, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Mike Woodson will probably be fired at the end of the season. I think JJ is hurt, and if he isn’t he needs to lose some weight. Marvin gets more aggressive (on both ends of the court) as the season goes on. He just needs to work on eliminating those mental lapses, such as bad fouls or not boxing out. Josh Smith needs to start moving without the basketball more. Creep along the baseline, or cut into the paint. He’s a good target for the oop. I like what I saw with AC, and he’s returned to early season form. It is quite obvious AC is a great penetration threat, and he’ll become a much better shooter with time. I think Bibby can teach him a lot about the NBA game, and help him with the pick and roll.

By Najeh Davenpoop

February 21, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Lil E, one of the biggest problems with the Hawks is that NOBODY moves without the basketball. And that is directly a result of poor coaching. Woodson is not creative enough to run an offense where people away from the ball are moving and trying to get open.

By Paul Hamilton

February 21, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

This was posted earlier in the blog “We could have traded for Michael Jordan in his prime and still go 0 for 5 against this lineup of juggernauts (Sacramento notwithstanding).”

Your an idiot!! Michael Jordan is better than any 3 players combined on this team. I’m sure the nightly 40 pts, plus above average defense, and one of the best clutch shooters of all time wouldn’t make a HUGE difference. If your going to post stupid comments like this, than no one is going to take you seriously. Hawks fans have been brain washed to settle for mediocre.

By Hawksfan

February 21, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

A few notes:

— **Please fire Woody, and hire a suitable coach, not just the GM’s buddy. (Woodson was Knight’s playing buddy; Kruger was Babcock’s college buddy.) — Trade Marvin. His game is just too one-dimensional: A mid-range jumper (plus poor rebounder, slow defender, no-handed, clumsey driver, and no 3-point shot). — Sign Jamal Tatum from D-league; he did look solid in pre-season. — What did Salim do to warrant Woodson dumping on him this season? — Oh yeah, yesterday I received my 2008-09 season ticket renewal, with a first payment deadline of 3/15/08. Unbelievable! Greedy, poor-a$$ owners. (At least it looks like I don’t have to worry about ponying up for playoff tickets this year! It ain’t going to happen.)

By cp

February 21, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Mike Woodson continues to show why he is the basketball version of Gregg Knapp. The guy cannot make adjustments. I mean none what so ever. The guy is so baffling that all I can do now is laugh. We actually have a pg but for some reason he allows J Chill to bring the ball up the court and etc. I like Chill but we have a pg on the floor for a reason. Marvin needs to go to the bench asap. This guy shows me nothing. JRich got the Solo and Salim treatment. He plays good only to not see the court again. Woody is a clown. How can you not put the guy back in when he was playing good ball. The Kings went in a zone and instead of putting the shooters on the floor he just said forget it and lets not make any type of adjustments. I was over here shaking my head wondering if Woody is just drunk which would explain him forgetting he actually has a shooter on the bench. PACHULIA IS PURE TRASH Im sick of him. I can’t believe im about to say this but I would rather have Sheldon than Pachulia. I have never seen a coach not reward players for good play. It is like if they play good he sits them. I love Josh Smith as a player but last night he should have been on the bench sitting next to Woody. The kid was taking dumb shots and playing some horrible d. He got frustrated and was not hustling back. It was time to sit him but nope not Mike Knapp. I said before the all star break that the fat lady has sung, did a remix with T Pain and had Puffy doing ad libs saying take that take that. Well unless somehing is done she might be doing a version with Akon. At this point one of the assistants cant be any worse than Mike Knapp.

By Clyde

February 21, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By Astro Joe

February 21, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

DarkRyder Leave me alone. LOL!!! I’m still trying to control the dark side and it’s very challenging considering that I’m sleep deprived after watching these late night debacles.

By say what doc?

February 21, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Doc,

The same Stuckey that has missed more time than Law this year due to injury?

By Clyde

February 21, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

Hello Clyde=moron and that lady that called me out on the last blog.

I told yall from jumpstreet this roster would not work. Zaza still lets people just walk down the lane and Horford is too short to block shots. The problem has been our bigs all year but we go and get a guard from the developmental league. Something ain’t right. This team is so messed up that when Billy and Woody gets fired we are going to have to start rebuilding again.

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By ben

February 21, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

The Clippers suck because their owner and management suck. Ditto the Hawks.

By randy

February 21, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

This is the longest rebuilding effort I have ever seen.

By richbrave

February 21, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

NAJEH:

Yours of 12;$2 p.m. Is that like a bag of chips for Kwame Brown? I almost drove off the road when Stephen A. came out with that blast. And the joke was on me because the WIZARDS started all that nonsense. At least Ernie G. salvaged something from that Unseld debacle.

Cowherd was begging for Butler to come back to L.A. now that they’ve got Pasol. Fat chance. O.K. L.A., secure the rights to Hibbert and lets talk.

By JerryWest

February 21, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

**Did Acie break his hand? Sekou - please let us know.

I think he broke his hand and the Hawks are trying for a trade without letting other teams know that Acie is out and we are at a tough spot.**

By Astro Joe

February 21, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Are you guys seeing this rumor that Cleveland may land Ben Wallace, Chris Duhon, Wally S. and Joe Smith within the next 20 minutes? Put them in a rotation with LeBron, Gibson & Z and that becomes a very, very nice team for the playoff stretch. I don’t see how Ferry can make all of that happen with Gooden, Hughes and a bunch of role players.

By CRobinson

February 21, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

let’s go……trade Marvin…..get a pick for this year……run Childress at the 3 spot.

By DarkRyder

February 21, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Anakin Joe I’ll wait until after 3pm. Once you’ve seen the mess that is the Hawks roster the transformation will begin….. it will be good to have you back on the dark side.

Bet you all wished Kwame Brown was on the roster now that Al is the only big man on the roster that is actually competent.

Najeh is that offer for the bag of weed still good?

By JB

February 21, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Sell the team Jeds’

By ugaman

February 21, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Thanks DarkRyder. Yes, I do have some frustration that I needed to vent after last night. Now that I got that off my chest, I’ll list what I think would be prudent moves by the Hawks at this venture:

1. Fire Woodson and find a young, up and coming assistant somewhere that has shown himslef to be creative with rosters: Rick Carlysle comes to mind.

2. Trade Marvin & Salim to the Grizzlies for Mike Miller. (Miller is a spot up shooter like Marvin, but will shoot from three point land, Marvin doesn’t have that range. Salim does, but is a nightmare on defensive matchups, which Miller could alleviate. You pretty much replace both Marvin & Salim with Miller)

3. Trade Josh Smith to New York for David Lee & Renaldo Balkman. (I know, Josh’s athletic ability & upside is huge, but he doesn’t play smart and turns the ball over too often, not to mention attitude problems. He also plays terrible position defense and if he can’t block the shot, then he is too often irrelevant on defense) Lee and Balkman are hustle players who are smart. Start Lee at center with ZaZa backing him up and Balkman can back up Horford at the four. Then you have Horford, who reminds me of a poor man’s athletic Tim Duncan matching up well and dominating other PF’s in the east, & Lee filling up the stat sheet with rebounds, blocked shots (not as much a Josh, however), assists, great position defense and consistency.

After this, my rotation looks like this:

PG: Bibby/Law/West SG: Johnson/Richardson/West SF: Miller/Childress/Johnson PF: Horford/Balkman/Solo C: Lee/ZaZa/Solo

Now that, my friends, is a team with skill and heart that consists of shooters and rebounders (dirty work guys). I’d take this anyday of the week if the salary figures worked out. What does everyone else think?

By huh

February 21, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Horford is too short to block shots? Clyde dude come on you cant be serious. Blocking shots is not a problem for Horford. It is more to defense than blocking shots Clyde. Dude I have seen you make good points before but this block shot thing is rediculous. Horford is just not as big as most centers. Honestly he has not been the problem. The problem is the coaching and its lack of direction.

By Lil E

February 21, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Najeh: You’re right. I’ve been saying that all season, too. Just like I’ve been saying it’s a shame for Woodson to have 3 years to mold these guys and our team still doesn’t have an identity.

What’s with all this man love for Childress ? He’s a good offensive rebounder and finishs well around the basket. Other than that, his game is pretty weak. What’s worse is..I don’t see him improving beyond the point he’s at (atleast not significantly). However, he would be a very useful piece on a contending team looking for a good hustle player.

Marvin Williams is solid in his 3rd year. Keep in mind that when we drafted him, he was projected to be a 5 year project. He is not one dimensional, and before his thigh injury was in the top 20 for FGA. One dimensional jump shooters don’t get to the line that often. I think once Marvin improves his handle and does some push-ups (he is a tad weak), he will be a force at SF. He is a good team defender, and his man-to-man is definately improving. He is becoming more aggressive on the boards. It would also be retarded to trade away a 6’9” shooter who still has yet to reach his prime. Marvin will be g great in another year or two.

P.S. Marvin is capable of creating his own shot, but he just doesn’t have the handles to do it consistently.

By Dan

February 21, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

ugaman,

I could live with trading Josh Smith, but we (Hawks) had better get more than Lee and Balkman in return. Smith drives me nuts sometimes, but I think other teams still see him as a potential superstar player. The Hawks might be able to get a lot for him.

Hawksfan,

I am assuming you are going to renew your season tickets? I sent in my renewal form today. I am glad there are others that are as stupid as me and support this franchise.

By I.MUS WRITE

February 21, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

CP you are wild man ….. i like the music refrences.`Prediction: Sheldon Williams will avg 12/6 a game if he gets playing time.

Theus will make Sheldon what Woodrow couldnt…….

By Ryan

February 21, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Doesn’t look like there were many last minute deals.

By ray

February 21, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

The only thing worse than the state of our team with Woodson at the helm, is the state of this blog. I swear. We have a philosopher who’d rather talk about war zones than basketball (and actually mention relaxtion/reality within the same sentence), and a pile of self-proclaimed prophets who swear that they’ve known all along that they’ve forseen all that has come to pass.

Not only that, but each “prophet” claims that EVERYBODY ELSE on the blog has rejected their soothsaying out of hand, and they were the only ones who knew anything. What a pile of ‘tards. Especially the ones who have been around all of five damn minutes.

Jeremy Richardson is clearly a guy who is worth keeping. A shooter, and an instantly effective one at that.

Like everyone else says, Woodson needs to go.

By I.MUS WRITE

February 21, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

hawks fan …. heres your chance bro. ugaman just posted the same trade as me Marvin for Miller….. now you can play GM with this guy. They are suggestions dude LOL

By Clyde

February 21, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

huh So why do you think opposing bigs keep putting up big numbers aginst Horford?

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By ray

February 21, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

I. Mus, if Theus can actually get some good production out of Sheldon, that will only serve to strengthen the already cemented idea that Woody is the stumbling block for all young players. Sheldon will be another in a line of players we drafted that couldn’t thrive under Woodson. Hell, even Mark Bradley has joined the bandwagon. I mean….damn

Ryan, last minute deals aren’t usually disclosed until after the so-called deadline. Let’s put it this way: the deadline is more of a guideline. All kinds of deals pop up and are reported afterwards. Always been like that….I’d bet my corvette that Danny Ferry is STILL on the phone.

By ray

February 21, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

If you ask me (and you didn’t), Dallas made a mistake. Sure, Jason Kidd is the shiznit, but does he make the Mavs better than Phoenix, San Antonio, and L.A.? Does he even make them competitive enough with those three monsters? Last year, Dallas got sucker-punched right in the nose by Golden State. This year, it could be the same punch…from a team like New Orleans. I’d not want to enter the first round and see CP3 and his crowd coming at me at lighting speed. Man do I still wish we’d drafted that guy….but I digress (and horribly at that).

Dallas also has another problem: they gave up Diop. Stuuuuupid, because you know that Dampier is inconsistent and sometimes foul prone. Not just that, but Malik Allen is just NOT going to be able to replace what Diop was able to do. And what is Dallas’ main worry from the three aforementioned western conference foes? The big guys. In Phoenix you have to deal with Stoudamire and Shaq. In L.A., you’ll battle Gasol, probably Bynum, and even Odom (though not seen as a conventional paint patroller). And in San Antonio, you get Duncan, Oberto, and now Kurt Thomas. Mark Cuban, prepare to throw more temper tantrums. You too, Dirk…but try not to kick the stationary bike this time… a lot of untold injuries have happened that way you know…

By Frankie C

February 21, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Are you kidding me?? How come no one is talking about how horrible Marvin Williams is? Artest abused this guy, does he have concrete in his shoes? I would’ve loved to see the Hawks part ways with another draft bust.

By Mike

February 21, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Sekou if ever there was a reason to fire Woodson, not that we need any more, it was on full display last night. Watching first year coach Reggie Theus out coach Woodson was was the last straw. His management of the game, his use of personnel, the way he move Artest to different position, and most of all his willingness to try different rotation and substitutions until he got control of the game.

We do not need to trade any more young assets until we get rid of Woodson.

By jami$$ion

February 21, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

What’s up!Where should i begin?1st Larry Brown’s not the answer he had a center& pg& NY was horrid!Hubie’s my choice.2nd our team looks almost complete,though it was built incorrect,from outside in.Plus our centerpiece is a complimentplayer,therefore he can be compromised.Think Corey Mag.3rd Chills,JR,AC,West,Solo good bench.Though Chill a be a better starter,trade marv/zaza they expendable for the shooter&big we need.4 we need some type of offensive system.A coach with a ballmovement system a be nice.

By Dean

February 21, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Yes jami$$ion, Hubie is the right guy short term…there would be a serious attitude adjustment on this team!!!

By richbrave

February 21, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

ray:

Opinions are like a*******holes buddy. Everybody got one. Thanks for yours. Good to get the take from the long-term guys like yourself.

By Lil E

February 21, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

The reason..Franky C..is because Artest abused all of our wing players.

By SalimFan

February 21, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

Dan you can’t sign a player from overseas that doesn’t already have a contract with that particular NBA team during the middle of the season.

Besides mateen cleaves is not very good. WHAT ABOUT WILL BYNUM, B.J. ELDER, GERRY MCNAMARA, DONNIE MCGRATH, JASON CONLEY, LUKE SCHENSHER, TAYLOR COPPENRATH, TODD OKESON, ALLAN RAY, AND JAMEL THOMAS. NOW THOSES WERE PLAYERS WITH REAL TALENT THAT GOT SNUBBED BY THE DRAFT.

you should youtube will bynum, he’s killin it overseas right now, and gettin paid six million a year to do so by maccabi tel-aviv of isreal.

By huh

February 21, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

Clyde do you actually watch the games? Brad Miller did not have a big game last night. He only produced when Horford was out of the game and that pathetic ZA ZA was out there. Horford had owned Gasol until the last meeting. Actually it are the guards and small fowards who have big games against us not really the bigs.

By SalimFan

February 22, 2008 5:20 AM | Link to this

Ok I want some of you to answer this question truthfully.

IS ZAZA PACHULIA BETTER THAN MARVIN WILLIAMS?

ANSWER……HELL NO. NOT HIS OFFENSE, SPEED, REBOUNDING, JUMPING ABILITY, SCORING ABILITY, OR HIS DEFENSE………NOT IN A SINGLE CATEGORY ON PAPER OR IN REAL LIFE IS ZAZA PACHULIA BETTER THAN MARVIN WILLIAMS…..HE’S JUST A COUPLE OF INCHES TALLER.

So why in the hell would you start zaza pachulia over marvin williams????

Ready for this one………YOU WOULDN’T! END OF STORY.

By PistolPete

February 26, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

The Hawks are playing extremely impressive basketball, despite the fact that they are losing. Opposing teams have not been blowing the Hawks out of the buildings. With the exception of the last Laker game, the Hawks have been in every game that they could have won, but because of sloppy play (many turnovers) and lapses during the games, the Hawks have walked away defeated in all but the Golden State contest and they almost let that contest slip away from them as well. What does this all mean? THE HAWKS ARE DEFINITELY, UNQUESTIONALBLY PLAYING COMPETITIVE BASKETBALL and they are staying in games until the final buzzer. That is a VAST improvement over last year when the Hawks were getting trashed in almost every ball game. The Hawks will eventually win with the talent that they currently have because the talent that the Hawks possess talent that is superior to every team in the league. Trust me as I know that the Hawks will win the championship soon, if not this year then definitely by next year or the year after, but only if the Hawks can retain all of the talent that they currently have on their roster. The Hawks will eventually prevail as champions and you can take that one to the bank and I am not whistling Dixie as I walk past the graveyard.