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DEL.ICIO.USNo, we’re not related
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
LOS ANGELES - Normally, I’d spend a few minutes bragging on LA, my favorite city on the planet outside of Grand Rapids, Mich. and Smyrna, but I’m going to spare you all this time.
Rest assured that LA, the city and it’s fine people, is fine as ever. Like I always say when I’m here, 18,000 people can’t possibly be wrong about a place.
But instead of one of my usual, meandering deals about life on the road in the NBA, I’m going to yap basketball for the umpteenth day in a row (sooner or later we’re going to stray off topic, for real).
So, I had a funny phone exchange after practice yesterday.
“You and Dale Davis must be cousins after what you wrote [Monday],” the cat on the other end of the phone said to me, he was joking, of course.
I had to laugh myself.
No, we’re not related. But Dale is one of my favorite dudes out there, active or not. And more importantly, he represents the type of player this Hawks team so desperately needs to complete what started over the weekend with the Mike Bibby trade.
After watching these guys practice for the first time it became painfully obvious to me that Josh Smith, Al Horford, Zaza Pachulia and Solomon Jones comprise the entire frontcourt rotation the Hawks will use for the final 33 games of this season - starting with tonight’s game against the Lakers - and possibly beyond.
That’s not going to get it, folks. There has to be at least one more addition to this roster (Jeremy Richardson, who looked really good during practice and should ease into the playing rotation immediately as a backup to both Marvin Williams and Joe Johnson) in the form of a big man.
It wouldn’t matter to me who it is, since I don’t have any decision-making power at my own house let alone with these Hawks.
But that won’t stop me from waxing poetic about the candidates that would fit best, IMHO.
The other names tossed about Monday (by me and the other non-factors in the decision making process I spoke to) include P.J. Brown, Justin Williams, Kevin Willis, Jamaal Magloire, Jeff Foster, Jahidi White, Jelani McCoy, Josh Boone, Francisco Elson and my personal favorite Aaron Williams (while not nearly as big a cult-favorite of mine as Luke Ridnour once was but surely one of my favorite no-nonsense players of all time).
Cases can be made for and against just about every guy on the list. I’ll concentrate strictly on my man Aaron Williams, though.
Aaron Williams is on someone else’s roster right now (the Clippers), so snagging him would obviously be the most complicated move for the Hawks - who for the time being are short on useful trade assets with no draft picks, no expiring contracts and no real player you can deem expendable now that the roster has been crunched to just 12 active (Speedy Claxton, as well know, is out) players.
The Hawks are in a tough situation now because adding another player to the roster forces them over the salary cap - uncharted territory for a team that for the longest time has one of the sweetest salary structures in the league.
Some creative action will be required to add the right player to the mix for the Hawks, whose best hope might be to wait out Thursday’s NBA trade deadline and see who is left without a team in the aftermath and then pounce.
I don’t know if the Hawks will be able to get it done, adding another quality player to this roster, or not. We probably won’t know for sure until Thursday, so they’ll have to face the Lakers and Kings (Wednesday) with what they’ve got right now.
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By Grant AKA Midnight
February 19, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Get your popcorn ready and enjoy the game tonight. I’m not moving from the couch until the end. This team is headed in the right direction and it should be fun to see.
By richbrave
February 19, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
AARON WILLIAMS? Another former Wizard. Didn’t see much of him when we played the Clippers last week. Your main man? Wow. There’s hope for D.C. yet.
By SalimFan
February 19, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Forget That Im TAPING the game for the first time since mid november. I’m really counting down the hours.
Also whatever happend to DANNY FORTSON..He could be a valuable asset if hes not doing anything right now.
Also Fracisco Elson is seriously looking like the right guy for the job. Also if we get anyone else solo won’t get any minuets and you allknow how woodsen is….it’s bound to happen if we add another big man. I say we wait it out and see how the team plays first.
I wonder if San Antonio would let us buy off the rest of elsons contract. kina like a buy and sign lol.
By Bertie
February 19, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Francisco Elson from the Spurs makes $3MM and unless the Spurs want Zaza, salaries will not match without including a core player which I would not do.
With Bibby on board I am expecting all our forwards to increase production, especially on the fast break and JJ with a little more space. I would not even discuss a trade this year involving any core players (JJ, Al, Marvin, AC or the Joshes) and also would plan on keeping them next year along with Bibby.
Aaron Williams sounds like a good pick up but like you say there are not many trade assets. A possibility is Salim and Solo for Williams if LAC accept. The Nets are not giving up Boone unless a core player is included and Magloire for Zaza, maybe but I doubt it b/c Zaza has a yr left and Magloire contracts expires this yr. Foster too expensive if you want to re-sign the Joshes next year.
That leaves the D-Leaguers, retired and waived players. Barring a trade for Aaron Williams, pick up Justin Williams off waivers. He will add rebounding and defense inside off the bench with a low salary, as well as auditioning for next year’s team.
Before the trade I thought the hawks will win 1 of the 5 games in this tough road trip but now they can probably win 3 and consider it a good road trip and a good start to the Bibby era.
By JohnGTFan
February 19, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Sekou
Thanks for all the updates, as always!!! And no decision making in your own house…how does that make you any different than the rest of us! LOL LOL
I’m very excited about tonight and the rest of the season. I just hope people don’t judge the Hawks and Bibby in the next 5 games. If ATL comes back 1-4 or 2-3, people shouldn’t complain…this is a horrible stretch for the Hawks right after the All-star break. I think ATL is looking at the 6th or 7th seed..that’s how much of a difference I believe Bibby will make!
Again, thanks for the updates and look forward to more. Don’t forget Sekou…when the Hawks come back to DC, you need to get the tour of the “Gon” this time!!!
GO HAWKS!!!
By JohnGTFan
February 19, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Sekou
Based off of Woodson’s quote, it seems like we’re all going to see more of Solo and Salim. Is that the feel you’re getting?
By msDee
February 19, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Woodson has no choice but to play both Salim & Solo cause ACie is Bibby’s only back-up..Salim and Mario both will see more time!! Horford may get in early foul trouble and Zaza so Solo is next in line..hopefully he will play smart enough to stay on the court!
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
Jeremy Richardson should get PLENTY of time if Marvin’s shot is’nt falling. We all know he’s been struggling at every thing else. Where’s his mother, when we need her most. How far is the flight from Seattle to LA. lol
By BosnianBaller
February 19, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
aaron williams is more of a power foward.the hawks need a center.get kelvin cato i’ve been sayin it since training camp
By Jason
February 19, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Why can’t we trade Childress for Elson + player / 2nd round pick?
We have Richardson to take Childress’ place (Richardson can actually shoot)
By preston
February 19, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
terrell- funny comment about Marvin, but it is true. I actually think that Marvin, as well as every other hawk will benefit and improve greatly from this trade…….Marvin does not have to do anything now but stay on the outside,take a pass from Bibby, and hit his favorite shot……..Let Horford and Smith stay down low. The ONLY guys now with the ball outside of the perimeter driving to the basket with regularity are Joe and Bibby.
By Melvin
February 19, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
I think BK should wait to see who the Nets will waive before signing any players out of the D-league or retirement. I think the Nets have quality big men that would be more valuable to the Hawks then any old guy thats retired or an inexperience guy thats in the D-league. We need an NBA vet that’s can contribute right away…
By tcrews
February 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
All the talent matters not without a coach who can actually coach…Hire kenny (Jet) Smith
By Matt from Hotlanta Hawks
February 19, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Sekou, what’s up with Speedy and the magical medical retirement we were hearing about a month ago? Any chance his contract will come off the books this season?
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
We need at LEAST 15 out of the next 33 to get in. I checked out NJ and Philly’s schedule. 36-46 might get us there, but you never know. Philly and Jersey could go on a tear, but I seriously doubt it.
By Hawksville Resident
February 19, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Mike Bibby!!!!!!!
By RA
February 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Sekou,
Sorry to be the bearer of disappointing news, but they’re probably going to have to face a lot of teams with what they’ve got right now… Solomon has to contribute and there’s seems be a crack in Woodson’s dog house that Salim might be able to shoot his way out of…
Altnata’s front court is undersized, there’s an end to it, but if the perimeter shooters can help draw the bigs out and everyone can help on defense, it’s not hopeless. Like Sekou said, this front court isn’t going to win a championship with what they have, but in this conference, they could make one heck of a racket if they’ll just play together!
By Barry
February 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Hey Y’all:
This may be the start of something big. Mike Bibby is a pure point guard and a leader. He has the point guard mentality as did his father Henry Bibby who played with the New York Knicks in those glory years with Clyde Frazier and earl Monroe. Mike Bibby, by the way, is his own man and, I have to say, is better than his dad. Bibby is legit and I can not wait to see the Hawks running and gunning with him at the helm. Joe Johnson is really going to go off with Bibby running and flowing in motion. Josh Smith, Mavin, Chldress and the rest are going to be running teams off the floor. Bibby will be getting the ball to them no matter how fast they are running down court. Also, wait until he learns all the plays. Boy, it will be just in time for the playoffs. Let’s Get Ready To RUMMMMMBLLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
SSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! This is a Secret from a Hawk fan. Tell everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ringold
By Barry
February 19, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Hey Y’all:
This may be the start of something big. Mike Bibby is a pure point guard and a leader. He has the point guard mentality as did his father Henry Bibby who played with the New York Knicks in those glory years with Clyde Frazier and earl Monroe. Mike Bibby, by the way, is his own man and, I have to say, is better than his dad. Bibby is legit and I can not wait to see the Hawks running and gunning with him at the helm. Joe Johnson is really going to go off with Bibby running and flowing in motion. Josh Smith, Mavin, Chldress and the rest are going to be running teams off the floor. Bibby will be getting the ball to them no matter how fast they are running down court. Also, wait until he learns all the plays. Boy, it will be just in time for the playoffs. Let’s Get Ready To RUMMMMMBLLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
SSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! This is a Secret from a Hawk fan. Tell everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ringold
By Jo Bling
February 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
The front court is undersized, yes, but fortunately Horford plays about six inches over his head.
Nice job on 680 The Fan yesterday, Sekou. I thought Buck asked you all the right questions, and, as usual, you had all the insightful answers.
By robdawg06
February 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Sekou, can you find out if the hawks plan on EVER getting a franchise center ? I mean, all the know how to draft is power forwards and off guards. A center is the missing ingredient from being a team now that might make the playoffs from a team that could possibly win the East. I know it takes money but I thought the Hawks were WAY under the cap ? Can you or somebody list the salaries of the Hawks players along with the cap amount please ?
By robdawg06
February 19, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Sekou, can you find out if the hawks plan on EVER getting a franchise center ? I mean, all the know how to draft is power forwards and off guards. A center is the missing ingredient from being a team now that might make the playoffs from a team that could possibly win the East. I know it takes money but I thought the Hawks were WAY under the cap ? Can you or somebody list the salaries of the Hawks players along with the cap amount please ?
By Jo Bling
February 19, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
“Also, wait until he learns all the plays.”
I wouldn’t expect that to take very long. Woodson’s playbook has to be one of the thinnest in the league.
By smartguy
February 19, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
This could be good if Woody doesn’t screw it up. I feel like we have to be well ahead at the end to win any game, because if its close, Woody will just give the ball to JJ and JJ will miss and we will lose. What scares me most is that if we are successful Woody possibly being back next year.
By robdawg06
February 19, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
If any of you collect NBA basketball cards please check out my Ebay auctions. My seller id is rwsportscards. I have 25 different cards of the same player in the lots all start at only .99 cents each. Go Hawks !
By Jay
February 19, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
Woody’s stubborness is now coming back to haunt him. The bottom line is, Woody has failed to prepare Salim and Solomon FOR THIS MOMENT. All season, he would ignore these guys over on the bench. (Then comes the trade) Now all of a sudden, he needs them to contribute. Perfect example of why he should have been developing them in the first place. I believe Salim will be able to add shooting despite the lack of playing time. However, Solomon lacks game experience and chemistry with his teammates. Something Woody should take full responsibility for. Hopefully, Solo will show us all why he should have been playing all season.
By ILL-logical
February 19, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Ah yes, Diogenes can cease his quest: Sekou has spoken the Truth!
One reason that JSmooth has so many blocked shots is that he has to guard his man,Marvin’s man once he gets around him ang, as sadly is to often the case, if ZAZa is playing ,his man as well.
While Solo may be freed some what , theere is still the heft factor to considerPS. What terence Moore was really saying in his Woodson piece was that this is it,bro; handle your business or else!
By preston
February 19, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Jay - I agree with you 100%…..these guys should already have their game face on, and their roles should already be defined, but this is actually the start of the season for them. And for some of the bashing that I am reading regarding Salim…. his defense is no worse than Tlue, and his offense was no worse than AJ, so how was he any worse than what we were trotting out on the court every night……Salim just hasn’t had a chance to improve on his defeciencies. Marvin williams has been playing consistently for 3 yrs, and I think that it is safe to say that we know exactly what we have in him….a good spot up jump shooter and not to much more than that……Josh Smith has made leaps and bounds in his development as a player b/c he has had the chance to. I think that if Salim gets his chance here, he could make just as much improvement in his game as J.Smith, or give us at least what we know we have in him……..a pure shooter with very good range from the outside.
By FRANK
February 19, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Seku thanks as always. There are 2 QUESTIONS we need answered. #1. Can Speedy be traded as an expireing deal if he decides to retire or has already told the nba he will retire? #2. What is Chills injury status?
By FRANK
February 19, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Sekou thanks as always. There are 2 QUESTIONS we need answered. #1. Can Speedy be traded as an expireing deal if he decides to retire or has already told the nba he will retire? #2. What is Chills injury status?
By FRANK
February 19, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Sekou thanks as always. There are 2 QUESTIONS we need answered. #1. Can Speedy be traded as an expireing deal if he decides to retire or has already told the nba he will retire? #2. What is Chills injury status?
By Mac-Town
February 19, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
Me personally…I’m always interested in role players. As eager as I am to see Bibby on the court for us, I’m equally eager to see what Solomon can do with more PT and what this guy Richardson can bring to the table. According to what I’ve been reading about him, I’d give him more PT than Marvin, at least he has range that extends out to the perimeter. I mean he CANT be any worse at the other aspects of the game than marvin (like defendin, reboundin, finishin on the drive)
By Willie Coyote
February 19, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
At least Acie can now play behind a scoring point guard and can have an example of what to model his game after.
This will probably make the Hawks good enough to be one of the top eight in the East but they’re still not contenders for the ultimate prize.
By MrHughes
February 19, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
I have no problem with Salim and Solo not getting tons of playing time. You have to earn your way onto the court. Playing time is not given out like programs and thundersticks at Philips arena. You work on your skills in the gym or a practice. Not, during actual games. Case and point Mario West. He should not have made this team. He showed in practice that he was worthy of being here and earned his point. Solo and Salim did not do the same, thus the extensive amount of time they spent at Brooks Brothers and riding the pine.
And, for whoever asked about salary: Mike Bibby $13,500,000 Joe Johnson $13,488,377 Speedy Claxton $6,306,182 Marvin Williams $4,466,040 Zaza Pachulia $4,000,000 Al Horford $3,745,800 Josh Childress $3,631,450 Josh Smith $2,243,543 Acie Law $1,927,080 Salim Stoudamire $783,000 Solomon Jones $729,000 Mario West $427,163 Jeremy Richardson unknown Total (pre JRich) $55,247,635 Salary Cap (‘07-‘08) $55,600,000
By Atl Flavor
February 19, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
The ASG Pimp Slapped the whole league with the Bibby deal. Can they pull another one?
Can we really get Francisco Elson?? How bout straight for cash and Magic City considerations?? Come ASG spend some moreee!!
By mavid
February 19, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Juwan Howard is about to be cut by the Mavs. He would be my #1 target.
By SSI Fan
February 19, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
With the arrival of Bibby and his salary will the Hawks be able and willing to pay the salaries which Smith and Childress will want next year? If they are not willing to match a salary offered in the off season by another team do they have to take back comparable salaries? Will they be able and willing to do that? If not, then aren’t they better off in the long run to get a player who will not be a restricted free agent until the 2009-2010 season when Bibby’s contract is up and hopefully Law is ready to assume the point guard position?
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
Marvin makes 2 times as much as Smoove. Thats crazy! Not after this summer.
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
Thank goodness your’re not the GM Mavid. We have enough FORWARDS.
By DarkRyder
February 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
mavid good point on Howard. Would he take the minimum to come here?
Looks like it will be D-leaguers to fill out the remaining roster. This could be a train wreck if Woodson doesn’t incorporate Solomon and Salim, not to mention a fast break offense.
By MrHughes
February 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
@Frank Speedy can’t count as an expiring contract. The Hawks are getting reinbursed by an insurance company for 80% of his salary, so the Hawks should not be as cash strapped as one might think. But, Speedy still counts against the salary cap. Claxton’s last game played for the Hawks was early in March last year. As long as he doesn’t come back and play 10 regular season games, before one year elapses from the date of his injury, the Hawks can go to the league and apply to have his salary for each remaining year of his contract excluded from the team salary. But, to take advantage of that Claxton must retire and the league must rule his injury as career ending.
By jonathan friedman
February 19, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Getting Mike Bibby should give us a big ol ATL Boner!
By jonathan friedman
February 19, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Getting Mike Bibby should give us a big ol ATL Boner!
By richbrave
February 19, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
COWHERD:
What an idiot!! Now he’s begging to have Caron return. Years ago, he considered him a bust and wanted him gone. Kwame Brown - LaRon Profitt for Caron Butler - Chucky Adkins. Now there’s a trade.
By ray
February 19, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Ken, point guards of Bibby’s level and above apply pressure, influence, and force in three major areas: on opposing defenses, on teammates, and on coaches. They apply pressure on defenses (self-explanatory). They influence teammates by prodding and helping them to become better, more efficient. And they force coaches to coach, shape the game properly, and let the team execute plays in the best way possible.
A smart coach doesn’t try to force a team to do what it cannot do. A good point guard is a powerful player. This kind of player recognizes what the team can do, gains the confidence of the team, and pushes the team. Bibby has said that he’s going to get the ball to guys and shoot it when appropriate. I believe him. Of course, I’ll believe wholeheartedly when I see it, but you get the point. That means guys like Josh Smith don’t have to haul a$$ up the court, wondering whether he will have to take it all the way or wait for someone to catch up to him so he can pass it to them. Instead, he’ll have to fly up the court to be in time to receive a pass. And guys like Marvin Williams better be ready to shoot it when Bibby passes, because he’s not going to pass for the sake of passing.
We should see more route and off-the-ball running. More screens. More sharp execution. A good pg (particularly a veteran) pushes all of this.
As for adding another big, that will be tough without giving up someone like Childress. Either that or do like Sekou says: pounce on someone left over after the trade madness. I’m sure we can get another big body in here fairly cheaply. The person won’t be a star, but we have to do some other figuring and fenagling to get that anyway…
By randy
February 19, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
I am gonna have to take a nap to catch tonight’s game…but no way I am gonna miss it!
By randy
February 19, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
I bet Dikembe could still wag his finger for us. Even if he is saddled on the bench for another team.
Haha I watched the 1998 All Star game over the weekend and saw Mutumbo trying to guard the Goliath Shaq. Dikembe looked like an 10 yr old starving ethiopian next to Shaq. But atleast Mutumbo’s cookie monster voice is cool.
By randy
February 19, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
What happened to Batista? He backed up Zaza last year. Is he playing Euro Ball of something?
By Astro Joe
February 19, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
randy, I forgot about Batista. He hurt more teammates than opposing players as I recall.
I’d love to bring Dikembe back for a cameo appearance. But Houston has cornered the market on under 6’4” guards who chuck the ball non-stop, so Salim would be of no interest to them. But Smith and Dikembe on the floor together would be very fun to watch as they try to send back every shot put up from inside 5 feet.
By T in the ATL
February 19, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
The Hawks should sign Andrew Martin Gding. He could add some pizazz to the team. He is not a scorer but loves to play D and will get in the ref’s face when need be. I think he could help the Hawks get to 39 wins which would be great for everyone!
By moboman
February 19, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Trade Childress for a big man. As stated above, at least Jeremy can shoot the ball. We wont miss chills that much. Would round out the team nicely.
By cp
February 19, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
terrell barron I was just thinking that maybe we could fly Marvin’s mom and barber out to the game so maybe Marvin could actually show up and produce. Jay great point about how Mike Knapp should have been giving Solo and Salim minutes so they would be ready for a situation like this. Melvin yea I would wait and see who New Jersey waives too. Damn guys are bringing it today. As far as Mike Knapp’s comments, Im not putting much stock into it. He also said before the season we would be running and you see how that has been. He said he would give guys minutes before and that never happend. As someone pointed out earlier, I never understood not playing Salim. He is better defensively than Ty Lue and a better scorer and penetrator than AJ so the reasons that were given for his lack of pt were bogus in my opinion. I hate that the game comes on so late but I shall stay up and see it.
By JohnGTFan
February 19, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
Atlanta, barring injuries to the following, will be 40-42 at season’s end:
Horford Bibby Smith Johnson Childress
No, I did not include GOOFY because he really wouldn’t be missed. No.2 overall….ugggggh
Sorry!
Looking forward to the game tonight. When is the last time so many Hawks fans were excited about the Hawks AFTER the All-Star break! WOW
By Jo Bling
February 19, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
“Also, wait until he learns all the plays.”
I wouldn’t expect that to take very long. Woodson’s playbook has to be one of the thinnest in the league.
By JohnGTFan
February 19, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, we would miss Childress a lot more than we would miss GOOFY.
By JerryWest
February 19, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
We are ready for no huddle offense.
By mark
February 19, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Nick Fazekas ended up being cut instaed of juwan howard. I’d try to pick him up off of waivers and see what he can do. That would essentially be this years second round pick. Not the best athlete but he can shoot and rebound. It would be ridiculously stupid to trade josh childress. We should wait until the off season and try to trade for one of the big men coming out of this years draft. Put Marvin williams on the block. Get hasheem thabeet or Roy hibbert or Deandre jordan. But we have NO BENCH if we trade childress. And if anyone at all gets injured we are done. So the key is to stay healthy and wait until the off season to get a big man.
By moboman
February 19, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
And we have no perimeter game when chills enters the game. They just pack it in defensively. Chllls is a good player, but we need a 2 in the game that can shoot. Not a good fit here.
By LL Cool Scott
February 19, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
I’m so geeked up about tonight. I think Bibby’s impact will be enormous. He’ll be able to get the ball to Horford and Smith in advantageous scoring positions in the post. He’ll be able to set up Joe and Marvin on the perimeter by hitting them with those soft passes that shooters need. He’ll also open up the floor for everyone else with his ability to shoot from the perimeter and penetrate into the lane and dish. And that’s just in the half-court! If Woodson lets him push the tempo, this team will really take off. Then you have his playoff experience, leadership, and winning habits and this is an absolute dream trade. What makes it more amazing is that the guy who pulled it off (Billy Knightmare) up until this point was one of the 3 most incompetent GMs in the league. I’m completely flabbergasted!
By I love the Hawks
February 19, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
I agree on that Andrew Martin guy. The name sounds very familiar. If he is the guy I am thinking of, he would be a GREAT addition. I think he is a little small for the NBA but did a great job running the point in college. He would be a good third stringer.
By Dman
February 19, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Dare I make such references as “Key to the ingnition”, “straw that stirs the drink”, “leader of the pack” and so on…. I have listen to you all for the entire season and most of you are so stuck on stupid just to hate on Billy Knight that you can’t even appreciate a great move.
I admit I would have loved to have Roy, Paul or Williams come out of the draft, but if my memory serves me correctly I don’t remember an overwhelming majority screaming for these guys at the time (exception of anyone but Sheldon Williams).
It’s not like we got nothing in those drafts. All of you Johnny come lately’s who predict the best draft candidate two years after the draft is over are fickle and void of any GM experience.
Good Job Billy!!! I have sat through Pete Badcock, and Stan Keestan’s drafts of the Ed Gray’s, John Contract, Roy Marble head, oh not to mention the sacreligious trade of Dominique Wilkins for oft injured Danny “bad knee’s” Manning and never heard this much whinnning! Don’t let me get started on their coaching selections, Bob Wiess. Bob Wiess! He didn’t even look like a coach!
I’m telling you now that Billy has missed on some but his predecessors missed even worse, which is exactly why we are in this situation of rebuilding! Know your history before you open you big hater mouths the next time!
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Let me ask you guys a question: Would you rather have a player who cant shoot, but rebounds, hustles, shoots a high FT%, plays DEFENSE, moves without the ball, finishes at the rim, and plays 3 positions(Chill), or would you rather have a player, who can hit wide open MID-RANGE jumpers, plays very little DEFENSE, can’t finish at the rim, and cant or wont rebound?(Marvin) THATS WHAT I THOUGHT!
By moboman
February 19, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
Good comments Dman,
While no one was really shouting a concensus alternative, everyone knew Sheldon wasnt a 5 pick. But most people knew Paul was a good choice at the time. On those two issues, it wasnt hindsight at work. No way you can argue about the Bibby trade though. This is a good trade in which we got something great, for a coupla somethings good, and didnt weaken ourselves any where in the process. Kudos to Knight on this one.
By Sekou K. Smith
February 19, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Speedy’s not retiring anytime soon. He’s doing rehab in Atlanta with every intention of returning to the court someday (when that is, no one knows for sure).
Childress is ready to go tonight (posted about it on a previous blog). He wore a knee sleeve at practice Monday and will probably wear it again tonight. But he’s ready to go.
By jahidi white?
February 19, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
did you really say “Jahidi White?” Are you serious? Isn’t he delivering pizza for an Imo’s in north St. Louis?
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
He’s been rehabbing for 3 yrs, it seems like. Doesnt he have enough money? Stop robbing us CRAIG! You must have some baby mama’s to take of, or something. lol
By Joe B
February 19, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
The answer is simple:
Elson and Udoka from Spurs for J. Chill and West. Make it happen.
By richbrave
February 19, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
AARON WILLIAMS - JAHAIDI WHITE:
Saw them when they both were young with the Wizards. No,no, and no. You don’t want these guys. Well, maybe Williams a lITTLE, but don’t give up anything other than a #2 draft pick in ‘09.
By Sekou K. Smith
February 19, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Jahidi White? Ha. I just gave you a list (however preposterous it might look when you read it) of names that came up on conversation about where the Hawks could go to find another big man.
By Patrick
February 19, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
My god I’m excited to see this.
Sekou, any predictions for Bibby’s output tonight, perchance?
By richbrave
February 19, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
SEKOU:
Like your blogs man. I’ve learned a lot, except how to be quiet. Post up tomorrow with your take on Bibby and your Hawks. I’ll feed you some lines on the Wizards, and we’ll have a build-up to March 17th. Can’t wait for Bibby to fit into this offense and Gilbert to be back at 100% and in shape. What a shoot-out!! Minimum defense - Maximum offense. Two dudes who want the last shot. Yeah.
By FRANK
February 19, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
Thanks for answering my ?’s Sekou about Chills and Speedy. I’ll post in on the Squawk. As for Jahidi White delivering Pizzas, I would have to doubt that since the pizzas would never make it past Jahidi’s mouth.
By Tyger
February 19, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this
Not a proponent of the wait and see who falls to you approach, but it might prove fruitful this time.
I’ve searched high and low for a BIG thats worth his oats and mine and for the life of me, outside Marcus Camby, I cant find one that I would pay $10M or more.
So, if youre cash strapped, and we are, then the waiver wire is your next best friend. Forget about the Jelani McCoys and Jahidi White’s - theyre done, besides we had Jelani on a 10 day and he couldnt hit a layup.
I’m still talking Jamaal Magloire - two years removed from an All-star season.
Nets just picked up Stromile Swift, and didnt send Magloire to Dallas, so they either want the expiring money or some young prospect b/c they aint goin nowhere.
Unless someone steps up in the next 48 hrs., he could be cut, he’s not even traveling with the team, despite playing the good soldier. He would be a perfect replacement for LO Wright, but better.
By Steve (HAWKSFANSINCE84)
February 19, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this
Great move for Atlanta……. theyre exciting, very talented. Gonna be even more fun to watch.
They got exactly what they needed, their missing link in Mike Bibby. They figured out after 5 years what the Bulls still cant figure out after 3 years, gotta fill the big hole. Atlanta was very close already and got their pointguard, teh one thing they needed. Bulls still havent gotten their lowpost bigman.
Anyways, Atlanta was already real close when they started 15-12. They just needed a good pointguard more than anything. Perimeter shooting and another clutch option and a veteran leader that knows how to win were all secondary… They got ALL OF THAT in landing Bibby. Great deal, I think they can make the step forward to legit playoff team and get up near Toronto/Washington level as a very good team, a legit playoff team and VERY VERY VERY VERY close behind Orlando/Cleveland who are a bit behind Boston/Detroit…… Hawks will be fun to watch. They got their missing piece.
EDIT::::::::: The Hawks always played at the other team’s tempo. Now they wont, Bibby knows how to push tempo, set and control the pace of the game. The Hawks are MURDER in the open-court (One of the most unstoppable fast break teams in the NBA when they run, didnt have the pg to run them though, now they do)….. their pick and roll with the athletic bigs will be unreal too, J-Smoove on the roll will be a DUNKATHON, he will finish wiht a bang on anybody, like a slightly smaller and slightly more athletic Amare. Bibby is nasty running the pick/roll, Horford will be their best option in the pick/roll, going right by centers or overpowering PF’s, great hands and a very godo finisher inside, and Marvin Williams will be good on the pick/roll too and great on the pick and pop…… this is such a good move for them. Bibby will make them all better too, give them a 2nd option in the clutch, take alot of playmaking/ballhandling pressure off of JJ and allow him to play his game and be better, he will make Horford better and feed him in the post where he is good, he will make Josh Smith and Childress better while assisting them on their slashing and on the break, he’ll make those 2 better flat-out. He’ll make Marvin better too, as a pure scorer at the 3……… great move for the Hawks. Theyve gotta be pumped, Im happy for them and their fans.
By Steve (HAWKSFANSINCE84)
February 19, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this
We GOT TO have a better crowd in attendance now. WE JUST HAVE TO. THE HIGHLIGHT FACTORY SHOULD BE SOLD OUT, FULL EVERY SINGLE NIGHT FOR THE REST OF THIS SEASON AND BEYOND (we got a bright future)……..
The Hawks are fun to watch, REALLY fun to watch. And they were already close to being a good team but were missing a pointguard, they got a very good one now that also brought other strengths that were secondary needs.
But you should go support them. Besides them being a good young team with a bright future that are very fun to watch. Young teams play a lot better at home when they have good support. Young teams especially feed off of the crowds energy. Look at Portland, they had that 14 game win streak and 12 of the games were at home, they were like 6 games over .500 at one point while being 5-12 road record. Their fans really support them and they feed off the confidence and energy of the crowd, the Hawks are the youngest team in the east and very talented like the Blazers are the youngest team in the west and very talented. The Hawks arent quite as good yet, but nwo that theyve got their pointguard they will be a lot better and they were already close to making the leap to good/playoff-level team. And theyre mad fun to watch.
Those stands shouldnt be empty any omre is what im saying. They already shouldnt have been this year, but especially now that they found their missing link and got Bibby. That would really benefit them if Atlanta ocmes out and really supports them, and they should be good and fun to watch as an exciting young team so it benefits us as fans too. Know what I mean?
By Steve (HAWKSFANSINCE84)
February 19, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this
I think we are fine with Solo, he can run, defend, rebound, set picks, garbage man on offense, block a few shots, catch and dunk or layup, and can bang a bit at 6’11 despite being a bit thin…..
I think our 4 big-rotation is fine for all lineups and matchups necessary.
Thank god we got our pointguard. FINALLY! Welcome to ATL Bibby, youre a very good PG and our Hawks were so close to making the leap, now we have the last piece neede to make that leap to good team. AWESOME, and we’ll be very very fun to watch!
By Nate ArchiBALL
February 19, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
I’m sure if Salim shot better than 30% from the field and 27% from the 3 point line Mike W. would have no problem giving him more playing time. Hell, Josh Smith shoots 22% from the 3 pt line…and we all know JS isn’t the one you want taking 3 pointers. Salim has to come off the bench making shots if he wants more playing time. The Hawks can’t afford to leave him on the court until he gets hot. Salim is his own worst enemy. Don’t blame Mike W. on a player inability to make shots.
By Johnny
February 19, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this
I’d rather have Marvin. BY FAR.
By doc
February 19, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this
sekou, in name only the team looks a little bereft of big men. the reality is that between shels and rens they only got into 47 of the teams 49 games to avg less than 12 minutes a game. that includes time when zaza was injured. neither one was playing a significant role nor injured to account for the lack of play time. i would think that zaza and horford ought to be able to handle the post well enough. remember it was just two years ago that zaza was doing a credible 38 to 40 minutes a game. the two bigs that left were worthless in the grand scheme of things. true zaza along with woody is going to have to bring up his game.
By richbrave
February 19, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this
WIZ +4 Half. Later.
By drmaryb
February 19, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this
SmartGuy
If we’re winning? Who cares who the coach is!
By cp
February 19, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this
I went ahead and purchased NBA league pass. The games are blacked out with this crappy direct tv. I was either watching games at a friends house or at work or was lucky enough to have the free pass when it was available. Im really pumped. Im ready to see what this team will look like and how certain players will react with playing time well if Mike Knapp gives them pt. Still another hour and a half away from game time. Im going to be up late and hopefully it will be worth it.
By Najeh Davenpoop
February 19, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this
I think they should hang on to Childress and Marvin for the remainder of the season. Find the best free agent big man available and roll into the playoffs with the current squad.
I like Chills a WHOLE lot better than Marvin, but I think this is his last season in Atlanta. Between Marvin and Childress, one of them has to come off the bench the way the team is currently constructed. Only one of them, Childress, is up for an extension after this year. Coincidentally, the Hawks don’t have a first-rounder in this year’s draft. As warm and fuzzy as things have been with the Atlanta Spirit recently, it only takes one missed handshake or late legal document for them to shut down the money stream again. All of that points to the Hawks trading Childress for a draft pick in the 8-15 range (assuming there is a taker) and using it on a big man, probably someone like DeAndre Jordan or Hasheem Thabeet. And to be honest, if they were to do that, I can’t say that I could fault the thought process.
By Najeh Davenpoop
February 19, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, another thing — I dislike Woodson’s coaching as much as anyone, but comparing him to Greg Knapp is really harsh. Come on now. If Knapp was coaching Al Horford would be our backup point guard.
By jami$$ion
February 19, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
i believe we actually need another big,but 4 insurance only.i believe za a be a nice backup post scorer & solo a nice backup post defender.I see us as a better starting lineup(if u look at all the teams)than all but DET in the East.Better than Orl, Tor,&Clev.Our backcourt best in the East save Det.And our frontcourt maybe 3rd after Bos,Det,Orl Clev & us about a tie.The bench & coaching is what’s going 2 define our team,from being upper echelon and middle of the pack.As far as a big man,JMAG 4 2rder a do.
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this
Hey Woody, Joe and Al had a long weekend. Dont wear them out tonight. Bench has to step up, what little one we have.
By richbrave
February 19, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this
No Butler and Stephenson on one leg. Things are not going well. Daniels uncharacteristically sloppy with the ball and shooting. I wonder how well he’s recovered from his injury. Young guys stepped up - 29 off the bench, but you can’t beat last minute veteran leadership. Hope the Hawks win tonight. Good luck.
By Traceman
February 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this
I can’t wait until Marvin’s thigh heals up so that you haters have to eat crow. He was playing GREAT until he got kneed in the thigh versus PTL. It has clearly affected him but he has played through the pain. Half of you hating on him are the same ones who have been down on JJ (who has also been playing hurt).
By infamouskrs
February 19, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this
i think the only big’s that would be worth considering, at this point of the season are Magloire (as Tyger explained), or Foster-Harrison in INDY.
INDY is ready for some serious changes….the city is calling for Bird’s head. He NEEDS new energy. Fans have turned their backs on the Pacers! O’Neal ISN’T even untouchable……..
no matter who we all wish for…or who we believe will MAKE drastic improvements to this team…does anyone think anything we say will somewhat sway Billy to continue to pull the trigger?
…in the end, we’ll either be ENRAGED of continued non-movement as we’re used to(prior to Sat’s deal)…or extremely amazed that any other GMs are still willing to pickup the phone when seeing BILLY KNIGHT on the caller ID!
By Joe Bling
February 19, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this
Traceman - I hope you are right (and I think you are) about Marvin. I can’t believe anyone would even entertain a discussion of whether Marvin or Chills is more valuable. Mr. Davenpoop may like Josh better as a player, but surely he understands Chills is not on the same level as Marvin in terms of value. That said, Marvin needs to get it going again soon. I hadn’t really thought about that thigh injury, but, yeah, that really could be what’s affecting him lately. He’s been in the tank, for sure.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this
Oh boy oh boy oh boy i cant wait for this game to start. Go HAWKS!!!!!
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this
Damn, Woody looks like he had’nt slept for 3 days.
By Vaughn
February 19, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this
I love how the game is “blacked out” for tonight on SportSouth in Birmingham, AL for the biggest game of the season so far. It’s the perfect way to keep fans here pleased. I can’t wait to see what Bibby can bring to this team. Playoffs or bust!
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this
We already look like a better team. Woody’s letting Bibby run the show.
By Joe Bling
February 19, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this
Just reading this board it’s pretty clear the trade has pumped people up. I’d say the enthusiasm is pretty off the charts right now. I hope that translates into some wins on this road trip, but you fans need to prepare yourselves for the reality that it may not happen right away. They’ll be playing on pure adrenalin for awhile, but it takes some time for chemistry to settle in. This trip is brutal, so I hope nobody starts jumping out of buildings if they bring home zero, one or two wins.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this
Already down by 12 points
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this
Zaza is P.I.T.I.F.U.L
By PD
February 19, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this
ZaZa looks in typical awful form. Cant play D worth shiz. Solo should be second to come off the bench.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this
WTF mike woodson, you need to rest jj, you cant play him all day long you idiot
By preston
February 19, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this
tssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss………………..is the sound of excitement that is comming out of the ballon.
By infamouskrs
February 19, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this
no points AT ALL in the final 4:33 of the quarter….WHAT?
By Najeh Davenpoop
February 19, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this
Watching Zaza play makes me long for the glory days of Hanno Mottola.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this
Saliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim is in tha house
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this
THE THRILL IS GONE, THE THRILL IS GONE AWAY! Nah just kidding. We should be o.k. Lets get 2 or 3 on this road trip, and come home and kick a*. Lets not forget, the Lakers are one of the favorites in the West.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this
The is b****** and salim with his first two shots and his first two misses
By Murphy
February 19, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this
maybe playing a zone defense would help cause every single hawk is getting beat one on one including Smoove
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this
Bibby is the best player so far.
By Najeh Davenpoop
February 19, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this
Now there is exactly the difference Bibby makes. Shakes his man, drives inside, sets up Childress for a dunk. It’s been SO LONG since the Hawks have had a PG who can do that.
By stevo
February 19, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this
Saliiiiiiiiiiiiim SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!!!
By preston
February 19, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this
funny thing is, Bibby is the only bright spot of the games for the Hawks, besides the blocks by J-Smoove.
By Joe B
February 19, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this
Said it before and I will say it again:
Hawks get ->
Elson provides a big body that is willing to do dirty work without requiring plays to be ran for him.
Udoka is the wing defender that can guard the other teams best perimeter players (ala Bruce Bowen his current teammate). He is a physical guy who can go to the offensive boards and get garbage buckets.
Hawks give ->
Childress is a good player but Atlanta still has too many wings that do similar things. Plus he is a free agent after this year meaning we might lose him anyway.
West thrown in to make the numbers work.
Lets go Hawks. Make moves don’t fake moves.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this
This is zhit
By doc
February 19, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this
sobering, huh?
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this
Well, I guess I’ll go to bed.
By Najeh Davenpoop
February 19, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this
I stand corrected.
Now Zaza makes me long for the glory days of Priest Lauderdale.
By preston
February 19, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this
A 30 freakin’ point lead……..It’s probaly a good idea to turn the t.v. and call it night.
By Murphy
February 19, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this
what the hell is wrong with zaza? how can u possibly be so bad and be in the NBA
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
See ya, Woodrow. The ASG cant be happy with this performance, regardless of who we’re playing.
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this
I didnt expect us to win this game, but this s** is ridiculous.
By THE Hawks Fan
February 19, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this
Damn man Woody looks like he has been drunk for the last week.lol. My HAWKS getting WAXED. 60 points in the half. GEEESSSHHH. We will make a run, just dont know if enough gas will be left. Bibby get his legs he will be ok.
By preston
February 19, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this
What a way to end the night………I didn’t win the 220 million….and now I got to deal with thi crap……..what a bummer!!!
By GLid
February 19, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this
This officiating is heinous. Not that it’d make much of a difference at this point, but come on.
We’re just too sloppy tonight. The score would be much closer if we weren’t shooting 30%.
Don’t play the scrubs, get some real game pt with Bibby.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this
why do i see woodson crawling out of the building
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this
Time to rest the starters, Woody.
By DarkRyder
February 19, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this
This team is going to have to take time to learn how to work together, what’s why I kept telling you all not to give the Hawks the World Championship after the deal to LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE. When Atlanta gets back home things will be fine, considering that NJ has thrown in the towel.
Childress for Elson or Udoka could work because SA needs some young athletic talent to assist Ginobli and Parker.
Take the second half and work on getting into a rhythm Hawks. You knew they weren’t going to beat the second best team in the West on the road, but tomorrow night will be more telling.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this
Yes jeremy richardson is a keeper 2 threes in a row
By Mac-Town
February 19, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this
as bad as this game is going I’ve saw a little of what I wanted to see….a guy who looks like he can be a factor being a shooter
Richardson…I had a feeling about him
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:45 PM | Link to this
Luckily for us, Philly already lost.
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this
Woody how about a good shave, Why dont ya?
By terrell barron
February 19, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this
Woody, how about a good shave, Why dont ya?
By The Grinch
February 19, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this
Yowch.
By hawksfan
February 19, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
The time when woodson put ZAZA in the game was when the game turned around.
By Clyde
February 19, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
FIRE BILLY AND WOODY
By BC
February 19, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
the lakers just scored 73 in the first half. the hawks are still thinking this is the all star game
By randy
February 19, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
SIGH … SAME OL’ HAWKS.
By PD
February 19, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this
Absolutely terrible. JJ wont even put up a fight with Kobe. And he deserved to be an All-Star? Ray Allen was correct. As for this Richardson dude, put him in the startin line up in place of Marvin. Goodnight.
By Harry Hawk
February 19, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this
Bibby needs to play in the second half. Just play it like it’s 0-0 and get some kind of chemistry going.
By THE Hawks Fan
February 19, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this
I know 1 thing. We better get a BIG in the next 24 hours. These 40 points a* whoopins will be on a regular basis. Za Za is spent. Give up on him. Solo needs to eat a cheeseburger every hour on the hour. Salim and Solo are behind the 8 ball are far as being ready to play. WTF is wrong with JOE??? Marvin just shoots no rebounds no d no hustle.Chill is hurt. He needs to sit. My man Mario just sits there and is STILL the 1st off the pine to pump up these guys coming to the bench. WOODY you could give him 5 mins a night. That 10 sec crap is bullshiet.
By cp
February 19, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this
Za Za sucks. He cant play d. He pumps fake every damn shot instead of just going up with it. He constantly gets beat by his man. This is ugly. The team looks to be sleepwalking. NO type of energy. NO defense. No type of rebounding. Terrible passes. I didn’t think we would win but damn at least make it a game. I know I gave Lo Wright a lot of heat but I would take him over Za Za right now.
By randy
February 19, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this
I just hope Joe Johnson learns how to shoot once again. And I kinda wonder if Bibby even can shoot with gauze covering half his hand. This is an old fashioned A$$ Whooping.
By htwo0rider
February 19, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this
That was the worst 1st half performance I’ve ever witnessed by a basketball team, professional or otherwise. Could you be any more sloppy with the ball. I doubt it. Granted, it seemed like the Lakers were shooting 98%, and its Bibby’s first game and all, but that was that was DISGRACEFUL!
By reese
February 20, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this
Hopefully, its obvious to all by now that Zaza is not going to cut it.
Also, someone needs to wake Joe Johnson up. He is not playing inspired. He does not know how to work the refs.
Marvin Williams hits his first two shots and then misses the next few opportunities as he tries to drive.
Lakers are packing the lane and giving the hawks offenive shots. The half time reporter says the hawks need to drive and get fouls. Its hard to give fouls to someone who is driving 1 against 5.
By Wow
February 20, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this
Richardson looked very strong on the bright side…
By Mac-Town
February 20, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this
lol@Marvin…does he ever finish?
By charles
February 20, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this
Naturally Bibby goes back to the locker room with an injury….at least Acie is looking aggressive
By hawksfan
February 20, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this
yess, jj and acie came to play in the second half
By terrell barron
February 20, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this
Zaza is garbage, Richardson looks better than Marvin, Joe and Al are tired,(blame Woodrow for that) Smoove is off, Woody is hungover, Salim is NERVOUS, and Solomon needs experience. Bibby and Childress are the only ones that came to play tonight.
By hawksfan
February 20, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this
include josh smith, right now the lead is 26
By Hock
February 20, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this
That might be the worst half by a Hawks team in the history of the NBA. The Bibby Era is off to a great start. Who can say they saw this coming?
By hawksfan
February 20, 2008 12:20 AM | Link to this
You see how phil called a time out after the hawks made a run
By htwo0rider
February 20, 2008 12:22 AM | Link to this
The worst 1st half performance ever, by a NBA team or otherwise. Feel free to take care of the ball, and stop standing around on the offensive end of the floor. I know its Bibby’s first game and all, but that was disgraceful!
By derrick
February 20, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this
Ho Hum..Bob just said we might need a 5th quarter! I don’t think it would help..We need another big man really, ZaZa hasn’t been the same since Horford took his job!
By hawksfan
February 20, 2008 12:24 AM | Link to this
lets just hope that they can get to a respectable 10 points
By hawksfan
February 20, 2008 12:27 AM | Link to this
acie is our future point gaurd
By terrell barron
February 20, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this
Why in the hell is Joe still in this game? Woody, we still have 4 more games on this trip, for crying out loud. GIVE THIS GUY SOME REST!
By hawksfan
February 20, 2008 12:34 AM | Link to this
Marvin williams was a no show tonight, i just dont see how we picked him over cp3 and d-will
By hawksfan
February 20, 2008 12:36 AM | Link to this
Joe, acie, and chillz were the only ones who had a decent games. Mike woodson needs to take advantage of his players more.
By Mac-Town
February 20, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this
Marvin is garbage most of the time he cant even finish when driving to the hoop. Forget this dude, I say play Richardson, he cant be any WORSE and he has more range.
By hawksfan
February 20, 2008 12:40 AM | Link to this
I dont like mike woodson, he shouldve put jeremy richardson in the game not josh smith, josh clearly doesnt want to play today.
By randy
February 20, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this
Marvin is a no show every night. Duck should be playing in the D League. What a shame we wasted a #2 pick on him. Good job Billy Knight.
By Johnny
February 20, 2008 12:45 AM | Link to this
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Same old Hawks…….. I hope not. Abberation……. I hope so……
Why did woody’s dumb mind take Marvin out of the game 4 minutes in after he made his first 2 shots on the left baseline to get us our first 4 points of the game? He was helping spread the floor and then Chillz cmes in and the Lakers dont even have to guard him……
I was seeing good things to start the game and it all crashed and burned. WHY DID WOODY TAKE BIBBY OUT OF THE GAME ONLY 7 MINUTES INTO THE 1st QUARTER AND NOT PUT HIM BACK IN UNTIL WE WERE DOWN BY 25? WHAT IS HE DOING? HE DIDNT PUT HIM IN UNTIL 7 MINUTES LEFT IN THE 2nd QUARTER…………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Mac-Town
February 20, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this
and looks to be quicker and more athletic
By randy
February 20, 2008 12:47 AM | Link to this
Maybe BK has learned that its not a good idea to pick a college backup forward with your number 2 pick. Marvin is a lazy bum like everyone thought then. Sadly, I have no doubt BK would have chose him #1 if we had received that pick.
By terrell barron
February 20, 2008 12:51 AM | Link to this
We need to trade Marvin for a draft pick. His stock is dropping by the minute. That way we can sign both Joshes in the off season and not have to worry about resigning Goofy, after next year. He can EASILY be replaced.
By Johnny
February 20, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this
Marvin isnt a problem at all, he is a very good 3rd option, a good rebounding small forward, good size, athleticism, good finishing and driving from elbows in, great midrange game and he spaces the floor and is good on the roll in pick/roll and very good on pick/pop as he can knock down that open j.
Tonight was obviously an abberation. It was never that bad wihtout Bibby, its not gonna be worse with Bibby (OBVIOUSLY)……. its just a terrible night came on his first night as a hawk. It happens, it sucked but it happens.
I dont know what Woody was thinking. He took out Bibby after about 6 minutes of play and didnt put him in until 7 minutes left in the half, we were down by 40 by then. He took out marvin after 5 minutes of play even though Marvin was spacing the floor, doing well against radmonovic and Marv knocked down his first 2 jumpers…… Kobe killed Joe (JOE STILL ISNT RIGHT SINCE THAT INJURY….. COME TO THINK OF IT MARVIN AINT EITHER)…… right when Chillz came in for Marvin the spacing went all to hell…… THE REFS WERE ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE TONIGHT AS WELL. THEY GAVE THE LAKERS EVERYTHING, LET THEM HOLD US AND HACK US UP WHILE GUARDING US, AND WOULDNT LET US PUT A FINGERNAIL ON THEM OR THEY GOT THE WISTLE…. PATHETIC!
Woody is still a huge question mark. Horford had a bad game. Bibby doesnt know our plays yet, had a bad shooting night, and CLEARLY our guys were forcing the ball to him while they had NO CHEMISTRY AT ALL, they were NOT on the same page….. and I HOPE TO GOD MIKE BIBBY DIDNT GET HURT.
Its not same old hawks, its not. Its just a bad game. It happens.
Soldier on;…….. tonight was very tough to watch though I will admit, and most of my frustration came from Woody. It was a disgrace. Bad game.
By Mac-Town
February 20, 2008 12:55 AM | Link to this
look at my guy richardson
START RICHARDSON OVER MARVIN!!!!
By Mac-Town
February 20, 2008 1:00 AM | Link to this
Johnny WHERE have you saw GREAT athleticism and ability from MARVIN WILLIAMS? I hope you were being sarcastic.
His drives to the hole end up being blocked, stripped or missed wild shots 90-95% of the time.
AND his rebounding isn’t what you would call “good”
he’s just a lengthy guy with a streaky mid range jumper and nothing more
By Tiger Woo
February 20, 2008 1:02 AM | Link to this
Johnny,
What Marvin are you talking about? Good finishing and driving from elbows in? Not hardly. 2 friggin’ rebounds tonight - Odom had 15 - that’s rebounding.
Marvin was a no-show tonight.
By cp
February 20, 2008 1:07 AM | Link to this
Im sorry but im not seeing it in Marvin at all. Maybe we can decorate every arena like the one in Seattle so he could show me something I mean anything. I cant lie I was screaming for Mike Knapp to put Richardson back in the game earlier since Duck was giving us absolutely nothing as usual. I know Najea but Mike Woodson is the basketball version of Gregg Knapp in almost every aspect. Wow Law actually produced when given minutes. Who would have thought that, other than every guy on this blog who thought he needed the minutes over the bum AJ. Solo has to add strength, other than that he challenges shots and goes for the boards. I really like this Richardson kid. Has a nice stroke and can actually move without looking so awkward. Can Marvin get some other rooms i mean seriously. Hopefully they come out with engery the next game seeing how they looked sleepy the whole night other than a few guys. Chill has been finishing better this season but boy did he miss a lot of gimmies. Luckily we play in the pathetic east so we did not lose any ground.
By RaJaH
February 20, 2008 1:26 AM | Link to this
I’ve never seen Joe so emotional in a game before .. Hopefully tonights Staple Center Massacre will be enough motivation for him to lead this team to the next level.
By Johnny
February 20, 2008 1:31 AM | Link to this
IVE SEEN WORSE, IVE SEEN WORSE!!!!!
I live in Boston, and I went to 2 celtics games this year. The 1st one I went to was Celtics vs. Nuggets and the Celtics went into halftime with a 79-38 lead!!!!!!! They won by 34 in the end, and were up by 50 at one point.
(And the Nuggets and Celtics played tonight for the 2nd and final time this season………. The nuggets won…….)
moral of the story: It happens, we will be alright. Too much talent at every position not to be alright, give it time and let JJ, Chillz and Marvin heal up a litlte bit…… plus we’re still developing the young great talent… WE WILL BE OKAY!
Other moral of the story: This was the 2nd worse one half of basketball ever played, 1st worse was the Nuggets getting spanked by the Celtics by 41 points at halftime.
By el el
February 20, 2008 1:31 AM | Link to this
I think this team will be fine. It’s just going to take a while. If Horford doesn’t get into foul trouble early, then 9 times out of 10 he owns Gasol, I think. I’m disappointed that this game wasn’t competitive after the first minute, but anytime you have a young team and you add a player like Bibby, it takes a few games to adjust. We just to live with it. It doesn’t help that we are on a 5 game west coast road trip against some very good teams. We’ll be lucky if we go 1-4, and should be celebrating if we can go 2-3.
I’m just thankful we actually have a point guard that knows how to run a pick and roll for the first time in 10 years, and that our bench actually didn’t play that bad in the 3 quarters of garbage time we had tonight.
Salim needs to step it up though or he’s going to end up with DNPs for the next 20 games again.
By Johnny
February 20, 2008 1:38 AM | Link to this
Yeah he had a bad game.
He’s still a 21 year old small forward that averages 17/6 a night on 50% shooting, thats alot better than 80% of the 3rd options in the league.
And all the positives I mentioned in his game are positives. Absolutely, you guys are the moron’s if you think starting a d-leaguer over a pro averaging 17 points and 6 boards per game as your third option is actually gonna help naything.
And his stock has went UP around the league. I live in Boston, and I know for a FACT on the message board Im at online and when the Hawks came to town Marvin Williams was mentioned like “Whoa, look at this kid he looks like he’s really started to develop huh?”…. and I say hell yes he has, and he has a long way to go.
He had a bad game, and he’s struggled since he got hurt, but that doesnt mean anything in the big picture. At all, it’ll pass just like it does for everybody else that plays thru an injury. (Example: JJ).
By Johnny
February 20, 2008 1:44 AM | Link to this
Salim sucks. Richardson sucks (I saw him try out for the spurs, he sucks). Zaza sucks. Acie was good tonight but sucked before. Everyone we traded sucks.
And our 6 good players played bad tonight.
All those guys that I said suck, theyre capable of doing a job and helping us win as being roleplayers. Hopefully Woody assigns those jobs/role’s and puts them in position to succeed, because they are capable in support of the extremely talented core that we have filling our 5 starting positions and our 6th man.
By smartguy
February 20, 2008 2:05 AM | Link to this
Reading the blog comments from 8:00 thru now is pretty funny. It goes from optimistic to cautious to desperation to acceptance and anger. While I would love to pile on, this is one time I will say just hang on. It was the worst first half I have ever seen those guys play, and I think they were just out of sorts and out of sync due to the addition of a new floor general.
I will go back to my post from TM’s blog yesterday. I was basically saying that Bibby isn’t something completely new and different. Its not like the passing lanes are all of a sudden going to be wide open. AJ and TL were okay/good, and Bibby is more like an upgrade than a revolution. That being said, there was some nice pick and roll and some other things, so lets just chill out a bit, ‘cause we all know WOODY IS UN-FIREABLE.
By terrell barron
February 20, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Johnny, I kinda figured you were from somewhere, other than Atlanta. We’ve watched Marvin play for 3 yrs now. Very little improvement. If Boston wants him, they can have him. Give us Perkins and Big baby.
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