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Just when you thought it was safe
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
After coming so close to perfection on my first round playoff predictions I’m inclined to snatch up my chips and cash ‘em in and run out of the NBA playoff casino as fast as I can.
Just when you thought it was safe to close the door on Blog Z for the playoffs (no, I’m not taking the summer off to the two or three haters who suggested it, I’m just sticking and moving like my homeboy Pretty Boy Floyd), he comes out of hiding.
So how’d I do in Round 1? Let’s see:
(1) Detroit vs. (8) Orlando Prediction: Pistons in 5. One over
(2) Cleveland vs. (7) Washington Prediction: Cavaliers in 4. Nailed it.
(3) Toronto vs. (6) New Jersey Prediction: Nets in 7. One over.
(4) Chicago vs. (5) Miami Prediction: Heat in 7. Oops.
(1) Dallas vs. (8) Golden State Prediction: Dallas in 6. Oops.
(2) Phoenix vs. (7) LA Lakers Prediction: Suns in 5. Nailed it.
(3) San Antonio vs. (6) Denver Prediction: Spurs in 5. Nailed it.
(4) Houston vs. (5) Utah Prediction: Jazz in 6. One under.
6-2 is pretty good, too good for me to run away from Round 2. So here are my fearless predictions for the Eastern and Western Conference semifinal series (I know a couple of them have already begun, but so what).
Detroit vs. Chicago Prediction: Pistons in 6. Bulls don’t have enough inside.
Cleveland vs. New Jersey Prediction: Cavaliers in 7. Cavs are my East dark horse.
Phoenix vs. San Antonio Prediction: Spurs in 7. Blood spilled. I love it.
Utah vs. Golden State Prediction: Jazz is 7. You’d think I learned my lesson.
Basketball isn’t the only thing on my mind these days. I was all over the place this weekend. I watched a Braves game, the playoffs, tons of PBS (the presidential election in France had some amazing subplots), boxing (more below), the Euroleague Final Four on NBA TV and that’s when I wasn’t reading or working on some stuff around the house (I made homemade pizzas on a dare from wifey Saturday evening, I came through with tasty results but it’s something I’ll probably stay away from in the future). A few observations:
Let me get this straight, Roger Clemens is going to be paid $4.5 million a month (or $750,000 a start) to work every five days or so? Good gracious. The next time someone tells you that it’s a foolish pipe dream to push your kids to excel in sports, slap them for me. Seriously, that’s got to be the best job in the world.
One of my boy’s in Dallas wanted to know who I thought was the bigger disappointment, Dirk and the Mavericks or T-Mac and the Rockets. That’s a tough one. Both of them had fizzled so many times in pressure situations that it’s hard to pick a winner (or loser, I guess). Dirk has at least been out of the first round before. I think his latest debacle should put to rest the argument about him being one of the league’s top five big-game players. But T-Mac’s continued failure on the big stage is simply not acceptable. Dude can’t even get out of the first round. Ridiculous.
I’ve had a hard time comprehending all of the outrage from the Lakers’ second straight first round exit from the playoffs at the hands of the Suns. Somehow, it’s the franchise’s fault that Kobe’s not surrounded by enough talent to fulfill his dreams. Uh, isn’t the he the cat that wanted it this way? He’s the one that wanted to be “The Man.” He was the one tired of toiling Shaq’s shadow and was tired of deferring to the big fella. Well, Black Jack, be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.
Cinco de Mayo was sweet for ya boy Blog Z (and the rest of the folks from my hometown of Grand Rapids, Mich.), what with Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s whipping of Oscar de la Hoya. I had a fantastic time watching the fight with my boy the Mad VP, his brother and son. I wasn’t worried about Floyd doing his thing. I was more worried that boxing’s crooked side would come out and spoil what should have been (and by all accounts was) a splendid fight. The judge that scored the fight for Oscar did his best to ruin things. But anyone that watched this thing knows that Floyd was the unquestioned winner. Oscar’s all hype man. He’s never defeated any of the other truly great fighters in their prime. Yet he’s talked about like one of the all-time greats. The media hype machine is powerful stuff when it’s revved up.
The Euroleague stuff was only somewhat interesting to me. I made it a point to watch David Andersen (the Hawks’ second round pick who plays for CSKA Moscow, who actually looked pretty good to me). He runs the floor well and has to be able to help them with their frontcourt depth by now. But his contract status is still a bit tricky, so I’m not sure if it’s viable to bring him over for this season. In general, I thought the picking were pretty slim. I did watch Tiago Splitter, but he didn’t look any different from Andersen to me. In fact, the style of play in Europe makes it hard for me to distinguish between the truly elite players and the scads of just good players.




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Comments
By Anakin Joe
May 7, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Blog Z, how could the #2 seed be considered a “dark horse” to win the conference? All of the Nets front court players combined for 11 rebounds yesterday. That won’t happen again. Go Nets!
While Kobe was ready to be “the man”, he didn’t ask Kupchak to draft a 17 year-old center at #10 2 years ago. Bynum won’t be ready to help a playoff contender until he can buy himself a beer. Can’t blame Kobe for trading Caron Butler, drafting Bynum and spending big on Radmanovic.
Oh yeah, and do we continue to list T-Mac, KG and JON on the list of the super-talented high schoolers when none of them have been able to have any sustained post-season success? All of those cats are getting gillions of dollars for failing to lead their teams when it matters most.
By A Thinking Fan
May 7, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
The NBA playoffs have been a welcomed relief for the real NBA fans in the ATL!
By mike
May 7, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
The playoff is about match-ups, watching how the Houston, Utah series finished will be a reminder to all that get carried away with the run and gun style. GS will have some of the same problems matching up with Utah as Dallas had matching up with GS. GS will have fared far better with Houston. Jerry Sloan teams are like SA, They’ll stick to what they due and want deviate from it. I think this will be a seven game series. Either team can win.
Cleveland is a good team not a great team. They’re a good team that gets great fouls calls because of LB. Most of those guys would be average players on other teams except Larry Hughes. As good as LB is you to hate to see him get those phantom calls by the refs to bail him and his teammates out. Going down the stretch of the NJ games there were some no foul calls on Cleveland that help determine the out come of that game. MJ played seven seasons and won a championship before he got his calls, LB should have to do the same thing. It will only make him a better player. I look for Jersey to steal the next game at Cleveland.
Even though Phoenix lost the first game, they continue to gain my respect as a team. They showed that they’re much improved on defense, and just as committed on the defensive end as they are on the offensive end. I hope the rest of the games are as good as game 1. I think the GS and Utah series will be the same. I hope GS don’t have a let down after knocking off the number one seed in the West.
Not much to say about Chicago and Detroit. The Bulls will fight hard, but the Pistons have too much firer power. Deng had a great game, but they’ll need production from Ben Wallace to have any chance of winning the series. I look for Ben Gordon to explode in either game two or three. Detroit takes it in 5 or 6.
It would be great to see a rematch of the SA and Detroit finals. I think Detroit wins this time. I had Dallas and Detroit in the finals. I was one of the so call experts that pick Dallas to win it all. I’m happy for GS, but I think SA comes out the West. I love the playoff and I just hope the games continue to live up to the hype. It’s exciting to see the young players step their game up in the playoff. Can’t wait to see my young Hawks get their chance.
By JJ
May 7, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Hey sekou don’t talk about my boy T-mac man his team left him hanging. No one had his back when he said its all on me.if that was my team mate i would say no its on all of us. And i know that jeff van gundy told his team not to foul at the end of that game becuz everybody knows to foul in that situation. T-mac 4 life
By Sekou K. Smith
May 7, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
You’re right JJ, it’s not all on T-Mac. Those other cats stood around as Utah tossed the ball all the way down the floor in the final seconds, too. It seemed like it took Yao a week to get over there and try to foul. But the best (and usually highest paid) player always takes the brunt of the heat when his team fails. And I’ll credit T-Mac for being a stand up dude during the press conference. But just like Dirk (last year and now), he’s the guy on the hot seat until he rids himsel of the stigma of being the best player never to advance past the first round (Carmelo Anthony is next in line).
By doc
May 7, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
for the suns and my man nash to win, amare is the one who will have to grow up and make a statement. cant be sure but he may be intimidated by the spurs and duncan. he missed some very makable close ones that would have made the game very close near the end of the game and posssibly turned the tide while nash sat it out. the one where he split the defenders, wasnt touched and missed it clean without anyone on him looked like one of those where the receiver drops the ball because he hears footsteps. i think amare heard footsteps on that one.
props to you on your picks sekou.
i thought the mavs and rockets would certainly get out of the first round and even considered them as the two that might play for it all from the west against either the cavs or the pistons. still pull for nash, the mighty mouse one that your cuz says needs to work out and become a bull instead of a cobra.
By smartguy
May 7, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
The more I watch the playoffs, the more I realize how far the Hawks are from being competitive on that level. I don’t neccessarily think our players are that far, but the way we play puts us light years behind most of these teams. The Hawks will never go anywhere with an offense of a retard.
FIRE WOODY, FIRE BILLY, FIRE SPIRIT! BRING ON BELKIN!
By ray
May 7, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
Well, T-mac said it and now he has to live it: “If we don’t make it past the first round, it’s all on me..”
As for Kobe, I’ll never really hate on the guy. He’s still perhaps the game’s top assassin. But he DID want to be “the man” in the worst way. And yeah, Kupchak could have probably made better moves, depending on what the goal was. But face it, drafting Bynum was not a bad thing. He has plenty of room to grow, but they got Abdul-Jabar to tutor him. SOMEBODY gets big time kudos for that. And Farmar isn’t a bad pickup either. I sure wish somebody in our organization was able to do things like that. As for spending big on Radmanovich and trading Butler, there’s no defense for that. Although it’s possible that Butler and Kobe would have/were clashing personalities. Personally, I think Butler would have made an excellent Robin to Kobe’s Batman.
Speaking of spending big, I think my boys in Chi-town are finding out quickly that they don’t have the inside help they really needed. Ben has played well, but not $60 million worth of well. In fact, other than solid defense, he’s looked so…ordinary. Just another good rebounding, solid defending power forward. He doesn’t fit the Bulls as well as he did the Pistons. Don’t get me wrong, love the guy and was glad to see him come. But unless the Bulls come up with a guy who does what Wallace does…the second round is likely as far as it goes. That’s what made Ben so great in Detroit. He was the perfect compliment to Rasheed, who was the scorer (and was also very capable of strong defense and decent rebounding). Oh well…back to the drawing board this summer on that one…
Golden State is fun to watch, but they have their hands full with a very well-coached Utah team. Very well-coached. Not to mention a good scoring and rebounding beast down low in Boozer. That’ll be a change from guarding Dirk. Although you definitely have to watch out for the seemingly limitless range of the quick-shooting Okur. I have to admit, I really like the playoff series this year.
In the end, I think it’ll be Spurs and Pistons again. They are the two most disciplined teams (the Jazz are too, but younger). When healthy and in the groove, the Spurs are just about implacable. They can be just as quick as anybody with Parker, Ginobilli, and Finley. They are just as big with Duncan, Elson, and Oberto. And there’s really no better big man in the game night after night than Duncan. Of course, this doesn’t mean they’ll win it all. But they’re my pick to do so until someone knocks ‘em off.
By Anakin Joe
May 7, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
It seems like all of the Atlanta professional franchises have an issue with a “sense of urgency” when it comes to crunch time. No doubt that if the Hawks make the playoffs with this current roster, that we will be swept away in a blink of an eye. And I believe that would be true even if we somehow won upward of 42 games next season (which we won’t). Our team doesn’t appear to have the mental toughness to deal with in-game adversity. One punch in the face and we fold like a TV tray.
Sekou, I’ve read previously that David Andersen (and other European players) often get free housing as part of their contract overseas. So if the Hawks want him, they will probably need to make it worth his while to leave the perks of being a major contributor on one of their league’s best teams. Can we get an update on Cenk Akyol? How about an interview with the Hawks international scout about Andersen and Akyol? Do we already have our future big man and PG?
By Ryder
May 7, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Blog Z- even though I’m glad that Floyd won the fight, it’s not exactly a whipping if the fight came down to a 12 round split decision (regardless of how biased the one judge was for oscar)you know there will be a rematch.
On to the playoffs, it wasn’t T-Mac’s fault this team lost. Looking at the game closely, it came down to who could hit the 3s down the stretch (as it always does in basketball) and the bottom line was that Mehmet Okur hit his treys and Houston didn’t. I still think the Rockets were the better team and if not for some questionable coaching (why did Van Gundy have Yao on Boozer when it was clear he couldn’t guard the Utah star? Sounds like a Woodson kind of move) Game 7s are not about who is the better team, it’s about who can overcome the pressure and hit their shots, and that’s why Utah is in the second round.
Speaking of which, Utah will sweep Golden State as the Warriors are just glad to be there (much like the Thrashers were just happy to make the playoffs) and the Jazz are too disciplined to let this team run on them. They will meet up with San Antonio in the conference finals. Stoudamire is intimidated by Duncan and the Spurs’ discipline in big games will carry them in 6 games over Phoenix. This was the worst possible matchup for the Suns, as SA won’t back down from Phoenix’s run and gun style.
In the East Detroit will knock out Chicago in 5. The Pistons have been here before and the Baby Bulls haven’t (sans Big Ben). Detroit is just too good on both sides of the floor to allow Chicago’s perimeter offense to get into a groove and Tayshaun Prince’s d on Luol Deng will be enough for them to win this series.
I agree with the one blogger who said Cleveland can’t be a dark horse at #2. However, I believe that the Nets will win this series in 7. I think that although they are a bit lacking the front court, they will regain their shooting touch (keep in mind for the majority of the 4th quarter they couldn’t hit a shot in close range) and will be able to beat Cleveland. Although TV ratings may take a hit, I believe that a NJ-Detroit series will be more interesting.
As for Kobe, I just think that he was sick of Shaq’s ego and wanted to prove that he could lead a team to success without him. Let’s face it, Shaq’s ego can be damaging to a team (if he would get off this “flip the switch in May” mentality out of his head, he’d have way more rings. Someone should tell him “35 ain’t 25”). Anyway, not that i’m any kind of Kobe apologist, but he’s no different than any other superstar that wants to prove they can be a leader. That being said, he’s unable to do that since he has this belief that no one on the Lakers can score outside of him. If that’s the case then they have made some bad moves in the front office building with youth during Kobe’s prime. LA should build a deep team if they want to compete and not I don’t think they can wait for Bynum to develop lest Kobe leaves in two years when his option is up on 2009.
That being said, it may serve LA well to unload Bynum (I know pipe dream) to a team who could afford to wait on his development. A team, say, like Atlanta who can provide not only the depth but the cap room necessary for LA to continue building. LA could trade Bynum to ATL for both Joshes and Atlanta’s first round pick. The Lakers could then trade Odom, Kwame Brown and one of those picks to Minnesota for Kevin Garnett. This way Atlanta gets the big man they desperately need (while having Marvin play his true 3 role with Shelden at 4), Minnesota gets some building blocks to start over, and LA gets some depth to help Kobe.
I know it’s a pipe dream, but isn’t that what blogs are for?
By bmonticello
May 7, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
sekou, big ups to my hometown of grand rapids and your boy little floyd. it was a pretty decent fight, but i have no idea what fight that judge was watching. de la hoya threw a lot more punches but none of them landed. floyd could have been a little more agressive but it’s all good.
it was good to see deeetroit blow out the bulls this weekend. for all the hype the bulls got from beating an old, tired (see: antione walker, payton, shaq, etc.) heat squad, they got exposed on saturday. ben wallace is a waste of 60 mil. how can you validate that kind of cash for a dude who doesn’t score and can’t hit a free throw? pistons in 5. then they’ll take care of the cavs in 6, max. the rematch with the spurs should be awesome and there’s no way they’ll lose that one unless sheed has another mental lapse and leaves horry open for game winning 3s.
By honest_abe
May 7, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this
sekou your assesment of the fight was a little exaggerated to say the least. whipped? like ryder say its hard to call it a whipping when it when 12 rounds and oscars face didn’t have a bruise on it. oh well i guess people see what they want to see. i saw a close fight with mayweather landing a few more, well placed quality punches. the rightful person won, but i can see if someone saw the fight go either way. it was pretty damn close.
i thought utah would pull it off. jerry sloan is the most underrated coach in the nba and was my coach of the year. the jazz are the 2nd most disciplined team in the league and deron williams is about as old school as they come. he would’ve looked nice in a hawks uni. i think the warriors will have all kinds of problems with the jazz. first off all when dallas went small they had a 7 footer in dirk out there but he was always out near the 3 point line. the warriors will probably put harrington on okur and biedrins on boozer. i think boozer will pound on the youngster all series long. kirelenko should be able to put the clamps on the warriors other mvp, stephen jackson and i see the jazz winning this one in 6.
i like cleveland to get to the eastern conference finals. if they get that kidn of production from sasha pavlovic then the cavs all of the sudden become a legitimate contender in the east. new jersey’s front line is non existent. cav’s win this one in 6 too.
i defend kobe about a lot of things but when it comes to defending his immature self, i’m speechless. kobe is the best talent in the nba. period. but he could’ve played behind the shadow of shaq for another few years and gotten a few more championships. he just couldnt’ wait to be the “man”. granted, he’s playing with a bunch of nbdl’ers but he blew up a good situation and he’s paying for it now.
steve nash is THAT good. damn i haven’t watched that good a basketball game since the mid 90’s. that was a damn good game! steve nash and tony parker going at it. duncan being his old reliable, clutch self. big shot rob, making big time 3’s in the 4th quarter. nash setting up anyone and everyone with perfect passes. anyone that underestimates this man’s worth to his team is in need of some pyschiatric help.
detroit will win the series but it will be much closer than the 1st game. i wasnt’ expecting things to be close as the first game was in detroit and the bulls had listened to a weeka bout how good they were. it was time for a reality check. but ben gordon isn’t going to stay cold and deng is about as legitimate as they come. this series should go 7.
ryder … the hawks dont’ need to trade away the bank for a gamble and that all bynum is. he’s a 20 year old 7 ft kid with improving skills. that’d be the 2nd worst trade to give away the best improving talent with the most upside on your team, along with the teams best complimentary player and a high pick in one of the deepest drafts in years. nooooooooo bueno!
By Anakin Joe
May 7, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Didn’t Amare average something like 35 points against Duncan when they met in the playoffs 2 years ago? I kind of doubt that Amare is intimidated by Duncan. The Spurs won their 1 game through offense for this series. I don’t see them winning another 3 games with the Suns scoring over 100 points.
The NBA is headed toward a pair of nightmare conference finals (from a casual fan and TV ratings standpoint). Cleveland vs. Detroit and SA vs. Utah would put most fans to sleep. Sure, LeBron is one of the icons of the league, but his team is utterly boring. And Utah and the Spurs may not combine to score 175 points in any game in their series.
By honest_abe
May 7, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
ya aj. i still think lebron is a big draw. so the detroit/cleve series should still garner a little buzz. but you’re right, although the spurs/jazz will display some great fundamental basketball it will be incredibly boring to the avg fan.
how about a cleveland vs jazz finals? LOL might be the least watched finals in nba history.
By Sekou K. Smith
May 7, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Did you watch the fight?
By honest_abe
May 7, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
yes i did sekou. and i thought i just described to you what i saw. the first few rounds i thought de la hoya won.. but he started to tire in the later rounds and was only good for a few flurries toward the end of each latter round. he got popped in the face a few times but obviously not enough to cause any significant damage. the strategy to go to the body didnt’ work as most of the punches didn’t have much behind it. i do think that when a fight goes 12 it’s purely subjective. but to call it a whipping, i just don’t think so?
oscars all hype? well the all hype guy has fought seemingly a lot more high profile fights than mayweather. he’s fought anyone and everyone and lost several to split decisions.
By roan st
May 7, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Where’s the dude who’s always bragging about the rockets? Come out of hiding and face the music rocket man.
By Ryder
May 7, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
In order for that fight to be considered a whipping he would’ve had to control the fight from the onset. Although Oscar missed the majority of his punches he did win the first few rounds whether you’d like to admit it or not. That’s why you do basketball blogs and thankfully not boxing. Floyd won a close fight and he’ll dominate any rematch. Check out your boy Bill Simmons’ blog on ESPN.
Amare didn’t average 35 ppg against Duncan alone in that series and he surely won’t this time. He’s a beast no doubt but down the stretch he and the rest of the Suns shriveled up like a raisin once Nash was gone. They looked lost when he went down. I don’t know if the Suns think they can mentally beat the Spurs.
Abe I respect what you said about that trade being a gamble but this Hawks team has taken gambles the past few seasons only to blow up in their face (sans the Joshes). I brought up the idea of a trade in case they weren’t able to resign both players. Also I have no faith in BK to draft a PG or a big in this draft, even if it is a very deep one.
Cavs and Jazz would have at least Lebron to show off the star power in regards to ratings. You know that the lowest rated series will be Spurs-Pistons, and barring the mother of all surprises that’s exactly the series we’re all getting. I’m telling you that if that series happens I’ll spend my time analyzing the Hawks draft chances.
By Ryder
May 7, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Roan st, I think he’s somewhere in Houston too busy crying about losing Roger Clemens to the Yankees to come in today.
By Sekou K. Smith
May 7, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
Abe and others,
Since some of you are pointing to the scorecards, let’s try some other numbers. Try the punch stat numbers that saw Floyd land 57.3 percent of his power punches and land twice as many punches (percentage wise) as his opponent (Oscar’s numbers were like the Hawks’ winning percentage the past three years, not worth mentioning). If that’s not a whipping, I don’t know what is.
Did Floyd destroy him and mangle his face? No. But it was a whipping however you look at it. Oscar is three inches and an easy 15 pounds bigger than Floyd and got worked.
But hey, we all have our opinions now don’t we?
By honest_abe
May 7, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
yup yup. we all have our opinions and thats what sucks about boxing these days. no knockout artist. someone who could put all this dumb back and forth about the extent of a boxers victory, to rest. having said that, all i saw was a really awkward fight. oscar kept getting peppered by the smaller floyd. and oscar couldn’t squarely land the barrage of punches he threw. either way the fight was a waste of my money and time, a real snoozefest if you ask me. both of those guys should’ve went after it like they did for the final 10 seconds.
By D-Cider
May 7, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
I’ll catch the rerun of the fight on HBO. I just couldn’t get excited over it Oscar the Weiner has retired, released a bad CD, come back and is past his prime. Floyd is very close to putting on too much weight and fighting out of his class. I am old enough to remember when Ali came back, lost to Frazier, Frazier lost to Foreman, Ali beats Foreman and beats Frazier twice. Plus, Ken Norton was hanging around to make things more interesting. Too young to remember when Ali went by Clay and knocked out Liston. I miss those days in the heavy weight division. What I need to do is pick up a copy of “When we were Kings” on DVD.
By roan st
May 7, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
Your damn right abe all of todays fights seem to never live up to the hype. Neither of these two fighters could hold a candle to the great middle weight fighters of the eighties. Remember these greats- hagler, hearns, duran, and leonard. And to think they all came along at the same time. I remember watching that hagler vs. hearns fight and it was a freakin war. Legendary boxing analyst bert sugar ranked that first round between those two as the greatest round ever. Of course those leonard and hearns fights were great as well. Not to mention the duran and leonard fights. Todays boxers just don’t get after each other the way those guys used to do it. Boxing is all but dead as far as I’m concerned.
By Harry Hawk
May 7, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
Sekou, that fight had all the excitement of watching two people standing in line to cash gigantic paychecks.
Mayweather won it because De La Hoya wouldn’t let it all hang out and try to beat him down. Mayweather was too quick for Oscar, but De La Hoya didn’t work the jab enough. When he did work it, he could control the fight.
In my opinion, “The Sweet Science” is only sweet when guys really get after it and try to knock each other to the canvas. Otherwise, you’re paying 65 bucks to watch guys who are more concerned about their health and well-being than trying to become a legendary fighter. It annoys me to no end. There’s no way in Hell I’d pay to see a rematch between these two guys unless I knew they really and truly wanted to risk getting knocked out in the process.
By Samuel
May 7, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this
First of all,
Why in the world would anybody watch boxing when you got UFC for free.
Cuz, I went 4-4 in the first round.
I lost when my fat cats from South Beach didn’t even bother to show up. I picked Kobe and crew over the Suns. Boy was I wrong. Even though I lost, I gotta say that I’m happy anyways. Kobe still doesn’t have a ring without Shaq. My daddy, Big Red, will get ragged to death by the nephews unless he(Kobe) does.
I picked Dallas over the Warriors eventhough I was definately pulling for the Warriors to win.
Houston is very boring. I know Yao puts up the numbers but he’s just too damn soft and clumsy to win a championship. Talk about no heart and fight. Yall can have him.
My second Round picks:
I’ll take Golden State over Utah. Any team that hot and confident, I gotta go with them. I BELIEVE
I originally picked PHX over the Spurs but looking at the way Duncan and Parker are bringing it. I don’t know. I can’t backtrack so I’ll stick with PHX.
Detroit looks to be too hungry and seasoned for Chitown. The Bulls will be lucky to win two games. Billips is manhandling them guards.
New Jersey should win if Carter get’s his butt on the block and post that Euro punk up. In the first quarter, I said, there’s no way Cleveland can beat Jersey. All Carter has to do is post up and shoot a 10 footer over Pavlovich. Next thing I know he’s jackin up 20 footers. I’m still going with Jersey.
Gotta go. I gotta take my nap so I can stay up with the Big Boys tonight
By harris
May 7, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
Yeah Dirk and T-mac failed again.But what about Steve Nash & Jerry Sloan who always have good regular seasons but never win a championship,I don’t think they are going to win this year either!As for Kobe he is the man remember that Shaq did’nt win the big one until Kobe got there and the reason he won in Miami is because of D. Wade.
By Samuel
May 7, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this
Oh Yea,
One more thing before I go to Bed. How about my Boy Barry. I know most here hate the fact that he’s about to break the record. I love it.
Baseball is so hypocritical. All this hype about steriods and the real problems get swept under the rug. Alcohol does way more harm than any other drug but it get’s promoted to no end. Tony LaRussa was drunk and literally sleep at the wheel and still managed a ball game the next night. The fans gave him a standing ovation.
Hancock was from my Hometown, Tupelo. They had the funeral there this week. I feel bad for his family. His little sister Katie is a serious baller. Don’t be surprised to see her in the WNBA one day. That’ll make three from Tupelo.
By roan st
May 7, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this
Samuel, as usual you have something stupid to say. Sure tony laRussa’s DUI will have a greater impact on baseball history than some roid freak tainting a great man’s home run record. Hank did it fair and sqaure thru hard work and determination and under unfathomable circumstances. It’s just not right that MLB allowed this kind of thing to happen in the first place. They should have had the tough steroid policies in place like the NFL. I saw some footage of bonds the other day at the age of 30 and busted out laughing. The guy couldn’t have weighed 190 pounds soaking wet and by age 37 he was a chisled 230 pounds. NAH he didn’t do any steroids.
By jhan
May 7, 2007 8:20 PM | Link to this
How is it that Barry’s hat & shoe sizes increased as he got older? Maybe it is normal for one’s head to start growing again at 30. What do you say Doc? I’m about to turn 40 and the only thing that keeps growing is my belly.
By roan st
May 7, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Jhan, I believe the medical term is called acromegaly which is a common side effect of excessive use of human growth hormone. Symptoms include excessive growth of the feet, hands, and forehead.
By Samuel
May 7, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
I figured yall would come out of the wood works. Lots of people gain 40 pounds from age 30 to 37. Matter of fact, I bet some of you probably gained more than that. I gained 20 in 5 weeks of basic training.
All this hat size BS. Where did you get that crap. Just repeating what you hear. Just like a puppet. What about his penis size. You guys have those measurements?
All I know is that Barry is making you guys look like idiots. Is he still on steriods? You don’t love Hank. You probably cussed him too when he broke Babe Ruth’s record. That Drunk!
By Mike
May 7, 2007 9:01 PM | Link to this
T-Mack is a shell of the guy I remember. Injuries dictate what he still can do, and what he can’t do. I remember the last time I seen T-Mack close to his prime, it was at Phillips and he was playing with Orlando. Back then he could hit the trey, but when he went to the hoop he use to put his whole hip in the goal dunking on guys. That’s the missing part of game he hasn’t recaptured. Plus he had some recent personal problems that have taken a toll on him. Yea he didn’t put on one of his staler performance but he gave his all, you can’t ask for any more than that.
One thing that definitely can’t be overlooked is all the fall away jump shots Yao was taking in the pivot. The guy is 7’6” 330 pounds and he can’t post up the smaller guys for Utah. The fact that Utah didn’t have to double Yao allowed Utah to get out on the three point shooters.
Van Gundy has to shoulder some of the blame; he did a poor job of countering what Jerry Sloan was doing on defense. I feel it was a team loss; you can’t single T-Mack and Yao out without calling the other guys out. How in the H do leave MOkur open for a trey with the game on the line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Mike
May 7, 2007 9:04 PM | Link to this
Samuel
Wake-up and get a life dude. Your on the wrong blog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By roan st
May 7, 2007 9:06 PM | Link to this
Yea I know a bunch of people who put on 40 pounds of solid muscle from age 30 to 37. NOT. As usual everbody’s a racist when they disagree with one of your post. You big titty baby.
By mavid
May 7, 2007 9:44 PM | Link to this
Samuel,
The alcohol-steroids comparison just doesn’t work. One is a performance-enhancer, one isn’t. Yes, alcohol is a problem, but the nature of the problem is entirely different. Steroids give players an unfair advantage; I hardly think alcohol does the same.
The issue is that Barry is going to break an honest, genuine record set by Aaron, making it disingenuous.
But, whatever, A-Rod probably breaks the record late in his career anyways. And I hate him more than Barry.
Onto basketball. I’m not sure why NOONE is taking GS. It’s definately a tougher matchup for them, but if they play with the same intensity and aggresiveness, its gonna be difficult for Utah. Utah lost to GS late in the season anyways.
By Samuel
May 7, 2007 11:03 PM | Link to this
Roan Street,
Who mentioned race?Mavid, Barry is still hitting homers even with all the steriod scrutiny. Surely he’s not still taking roids being under the microscope like he is. What’s your excuse now?
By doc
May 7, 2007 11:39 PM | Link to this
the use of roids is (yes still in use) and was so prevalent recently it is a mockery to even consider some of the stuff that goes on in baseball any more serious than what happens in the wrestling world. this isnt about race as bonds has done what he had to do; that was to take the roids to achieve his goals just like the hispanics; canseco, palmero and sosa did and the whites like anderson, the little oriole cf that went from 5 homers to 50, probably roger clemens and mcguire who broke ruths’ and maris’ record to be outdone by the man bonds himself. though some use it is not as prevalent by the numbers, lower home run totals and fewer pitchers throwing in the 100’s.
it isnt a story anymore because it involves a man who has sold out, he lost a lot of his audience when he didnt come clean just as palmero did, sosa did and mcguire did, who retired early to avoid the limelight and controversy he was sure to come. from the likes of it it seems that both bonds and clemens have found the magic of growth hormone among others. nolan ryan still isnt beyond the doubt in my mind, roids have been available to ballplayers since the late 60’s as i was offered them in stan musual ball in the summer after my freshman year. it is just most didnt know what to do with them and the science behind it.
baseball has been doing illegal drugs since they were invented either in the form of illicit booze during prohibition (ruth, right samuel?), greeenies as soon as they were made (see book, ball four by bouton) up until the last year when some ballplayers who were so mis-informed that they were complaining that maybe it was okay to take the roids away from us but please not the greenies as it gives them energy to play when they are tired form all the travel (like the trucker that runs you off the road as they are available under the counter at most truck stops). it was so prevalent that they had no clue that both were illegal drugs and for a reason … their health.
though some migh want to say it is about race, it isnt about race though, because it is bonds making a run at a man who is of the same race, aaron. however, it is a non-story because of the way in which it has been done. i personally dont care. i do care that folks are educated that they arent safe and that acromegaly (yeah, samuel if you are playing ignorant to try and get a response you probably do know it is a physiological response to growth hormone not hearsay) is a very serious condition when g.h. goes unchecked and the toll will be seen in bonds’ body shortly after he stops the drugs with serious side effects. lew ferigno and the giant had the real condition and i think one if not both died prematurely.
baseball condoned itto revive interest. now, it will have to pretend they are interested in this event to move beyond it and i think that is where most are with it.
it is fun to watch some of the guys that arent on them, they remind me of the true gretas like mays, dimaggio musual and ted williams among others. it is even greater to have watched the types of guys that would have blown the doors off todays players if they had been so motivated or sophisticated like murphy, the hawk dawkins, jim rice or george foster. these are the guys (of color and not color) that have been most malligned by this era of baseball as they should be in the hall of fame before numbers got inflated by the new era of players. those are the guys i respect, admire and put into my own hall of fame not the hall of shame that is being run now.
as far as bonds, he is a great ballplayer but as a man i dont have a lot to say for him and his sense of entitlement. to listen to him is to listen to similar rationalizations of the ilk of none other than the queen of entitlement, paris hilton.
By doc
May 7, 2007 11:57 PM | Link to this
samuel, there is no lab in the world capable of measuring growth hormone or several other designer drugs. based on that the argument that; he isnt caught so he must not be taking drugs, isnt an intelligent argument. it leaves us both to argue or speculate what we choose to see in my case or what you choose to not see in your case.
tough to see tupelo hurting this week. samuel, i wondered when i heard where hancock was from if you knew him or the family. no matter the circumstances it is tragic and some folks seriously hurting and asking why.
By Peter
May 7, 2007 11:58 PM | Link to this
I know you don’t mean Pretty Boy Floyd from the 800 block of Adams Street. You couldn’t be from there. You too “refined”. Delicate and you talk too proper. Just jazzin’ with ya man. I always thought you were an Easterner.
You get a chance to check out the fight? Your boy MJ was all snuggled up in Oscar’s corner. Magic too.
Bodacious hoops going on brother. When did Baron Davis become a complete player? Hawks won as many games out there as Dirk did. Remember Josh’s arena rattling slam? I can still hear it.
HAWKS WILL GET TWO PICKS.
Everybody’s got to think it and believe it!
By Wedgie Evans
May 8, 2007 1:33 AM | Link to this
I know someone said this earlier, but in fairness to T-Mac this playoff loss shouldn’t be on his shoulders. If his supposedly superstar teammate, a certain 7’6” Chinese guy, would have played up to half his rep, the Rockets would have won that series easily. Yao is the guy who should be taking the blame for this loss. No way a 7’6” center should be getting owned by a not especially athletic 6’9” forward. Boozer and to a lesser extent Okur were making Yao look like Shawn Bradley. Far from taking the blame, T-Mac should be looking for an apology from Yao for his performance.
By smartguy
May 8, 2007 3:58 AM | Link to this
Samuel, it is a fact that Bond’s hat size increased slightly from when he came into the league, but more interestingly, is that his shoe size increased about three or four sizes. I can’t remember exactly, but I think he went from a 9.5 to a 13. There were some other unusual increases, but this was on ESPN at some point last year, and I think they even cited some official type of determination. Your ignorance on the issue reminds me of the guy on the blog here recently who said all Hawks fans were stupid because we thought Greg Oden had one leg shorter than the other. One day you will hear the same info the rest of us already know, and you will probably feel pretty dumb about it.
On to other issues: Did anyone hear Steven Jackson rip the Hawks in his post game interview. Ouch. Way to Go Spirit! Way to go Woody!
The next question is how supportive would the Hawks fans be of Billy Donovan coming in. He didn’t take the Mempis job because he wants full personnel control. Well, coincidentally, both our GM and our Head Coach need replacing. I know five million a year is steep (plus paying of those other two goons for a year), but I guarantee it would be more than made up, probably in the first year alone. I would renew my season tickets, and I’m guessing many of you who were going to cancel would renew as well.
And Sekou, can we please get an update on our guys overseas, as I know almost nothing about them. And one more question, any word on the ownership situation? Are they going to make a decison before May 22, or does anyone know? Thanks.
By St. Bernard
May 8, 2007 7:23 AM | Link to this
Sekou, I watched part of the David Anderson game and you must have seen something I didn’t see. He looks Really Skinny, uncoordinated, and wooden. I had such high hopes that this guy might come to league soon, but he looks like he’ll never get here to me. I don’t know anything about Cenk “the sink”.
By Samuel
May 8, 2007 7:34 AM | Link to this
Doc. Because he hasn’t been caught must mean he’s guilty. OK!! Smartguy, so his hat size increased slightly now. What is slightly.
Yall come up with some proof. So far neither you or anybody else in the world has been able to do so. We can put a man on the moon but can’t detect roids in Barry’s system. Don’t buy it. But he’s guilty cause yall don’t like him Sounds like a witch hunt to me.
I thought we were pass them days. I guess not.
By honest_abe
May 8, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
lol if you only knew how stupid you sound sam.
ignorance is bliss.
By ajw
May 8, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
Saw the AJC ran a headline that the Braves are too white. Huh?????? In a league of 95% black players, the Utah Jazz are definitely discriminating against the black athletes. Never seen so many white guys on the floor at once as I did last night. It was like a black against white game. The refs couldn’t even figure out who to give the foul calls to.
By Anakin Joe
May 8, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
Anyone else see the reports that Jason Terry might be the sacrificial lamb out in Dallas? I’ve been saying for a year or two, that he’s the type of leader our Hawks need. He’s vocal, will get in someone’s face and is willing to take the last shot. Sure, he is not a pure PG nor will he play lock-down defense. But if there were a way to get him for a song and a dance, I’d be all over that. A backcourt of JT and JJ would put a lot of pressure on any opposing team. Draft a big and pray for health.
By doc
May 8, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
samuel, the grand jury findings arent a witch hunt and only confirmed what sooooo many of people with discerning minds have seen occur to bonds body along with many other ballplayers the last 15-20 years. please note, i mentioned many folks and not just barry that were and are involved. the only reason he wasnt brought to congress was to aviod the conflict with the feds putting their case together. bonds is todays version of pete rose, a really great player that couldnt say an honest thing until about twenty years later even though the evidence was huge against him just like it is with the grand jury stuff on bonds. both guys are really great liars er players but carry or carried a huge amount of deceit with them through their lives.
By mike
May 8, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
Why bother discussing Barry on this blog, This is the second round of the playoff. And Sekou, if want to talk about pretty boy Floyd due Boxing blog. Now that the rubber is starting to hit the road in the playoff, are we are seeing that some of these so call up and coming teams still have some of the same problem as the Hawks, even with a PG. I still think GS and Utah goes seven. The same for Cleveland and Jersey I think that’s a seven game series. Yao has a very low basketball IQ. He’s just like Kawme Brown for the Laker. Their 7 footers that play like their 6’9”. Some guys finally figure it out, some never get it. You really can’t blame him he play all of his basketball in China. Had we played over in Europe he would have play against better competition..
Sekou I apologize for the boxing comment. This is your blog. I love Floyd but De La Hoya is past his prime. If it went to a decision there’s really not much to brag about. Seem to me they’re some salt in the game. I wouldn’t be surprise if they end up fighting two more time.
Anyway thanks very much for you coverage of the playoff and thanks for keeping us informed on what’s going on with the Hawks. I still feel like the other blogger, I think we get two draft picks. Looking at how mediocre some of these PG’s look in the playoff. Maybe Speedy can get his butt back in shape and come back and redeem his self. It is a whole lot easier to trade him if he does. If nothing else he can earn some of 25mil he’s stealing.
By mike
May 8, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
Yea I love JT. He was my boy when he was a Hawks, but he’s damaged good now. BD stole his heart that a death sentence for a player. It would depend on what Dallas want in exchange. I think Devan George will be the odd man out. They paid him all that money because he won three rings with the Lakers, “They were fooled”!!! That deal was worst than the Speedy deal, at lease Speedy was injured. I think they paid him like 30Mil.
By doc
May 8, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
gee the blog police just arrived … samuel how dare you bring up a controversial topic on the hallowed HAWKS blog, downright shameful. ;-)
By Samuel
May 8, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
These guys come and go Doc. You know that. Doc, me and you are Alpha and Omega around here.
By smartguy
May 8, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
Yo DA Sam, check this out from the San Fransico Chronicle from Feb of this year:
“For his part, Murphy could document Bonds’ physical changes via the changes in his uniform size. Since joining the Giants, Bonds had gone from a size 42 to a size 52 jersey; from size 10 ½ to size 13 cleats; and from a size 7 1/8 to size 7 ½ cap, even though he had taken to shaving his head. The changes in his foot and head size were of special interest: medical experts said overuse of Human Growth Hormone could cause an adult’s extremities to begin growing, aping the symptoms of the glandular disorder acromegly.”
You may not accept any proof other than physically measuring Barry yourself, but now the truth is in your face; accept it, or continue to live in ignorance. (Do a google search for ‘barry bonds shoe size’ and see all that comess up)
Samuel, are you somehow related to Mike Woodson or Billy Knight? DA.
By smartguy
May 8, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
Jason Terry is the opposite of what we need. A shoot-first point guard is not what the Hawks need, and JT is certainly more of a follower than a leader, like a chameleon.
By Anakin Joe
May 8, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
smartguy, how many PGs are still playing in the playoffs who didn’t average at least 15 points in the regular season? 2! Jason Kidd (who is a future HOFer and only averaged a triple double in the first round) and Cleveland (although they run their offense through LeBron and Hughes). The other 6 teams have PGs who distribute at least 5 assists and put constant pressure on defenses by threatening to score.
Now, let’s look at the PGs that were recent eliminated from play. TJ Ford/Calderon. Antonio Daniels. Rafer Alston. Jason Williams. Smush Parker. Steve Blake. Jameer Nelson. Jason Terry. Jameer and JT are the only scorers of the bunch. Jameer is still learning his role and JT, well, we know about the league’s biggest upset. Those other cats are all pass first PGs who failed to do anything in the playoffs.
It’s a new day. Defenses are far too big, strong and quick for teams to play 4 on 5. That simply doesn’t work in the league these days. Whether you like JT or not, the notion that a pass-first PG could do anything significant no longer holds water. That’s why Andre Miller continues to bounce around. He looks great on paper, but his inability to take his team deep in the playoffs always comes back to haunt him.
Lastly, there a HUGE difference between a Gilbert Arenas/Steve Francis/Marbury/AI and JT/Billups/Kirk Hinrich/Deron Williams. All are capable of scoring but the second group is not looking to lead the team in scoring.
By mike
May 8, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
Yea I agree on JT, BD exposed JT. I still like Jack, Mo Williams, and Billups in FA
By mavid
May 8, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
AJ,
I like JT, but he’s sub-optimal in my opinion. That being said, he might be the best realistic solution. Personally, I would like to get rid of at least 2 of our current scrubs (I know, not easy), and then draft our future PG in either Conley or Crittenton. Crittenton is looking better and better to me. Could fit this team in a deadly way. Plus, Crittenton can play and guard some 2-guard with his size, allowing him to play in the backcourt with both a guy like JJ and JT.
But that being said, JT would provide some much leaded shooting and leadership. I just don’t see him as being THE answer in the long-run, and that is why i’d also like Conley or Crittenton (with the understanding that Crittenton will need to be groomed).
By mavid
May 8, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
JT > Mo Williams and Jack
Billups just plain isn’t gonna happen. Especially after they win a championship this year.
By honest_abe
May 8, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
first of all, i agree with the people that don’t want jt but for different reasons.
mike you pointed out that jt got drilled by bd. and then you go on to say you’d rather have mo, jack or billups. well if it had been anyone other that billups and maybe even he would have gotten burned because that’s about as good as i’ve seen bd play and i don’t think anybody was going to stop him. how many ridiculous off balance shots did he make?
a shoot first pg is not what we need? i kind of agree with that statement but not completely. having another outside threat i believe still opens up passing lanes, spreads the floor and gives other people options.
besides jt avged around 5 assists pg with the hawks, with a high of 7.3.
having said all that, jt is a good 3rd or 4th option imo. if the hawks can get him somehow on the cheap then its worth it. there’s no point in overpaying for another pg that’s not really a pg. in dallas he was able to get a lot of good looks due to devin harris’ ability to penetrate, dirks range and howards overall ability. in atlanta he’ll be expected to shoulder the scoring load, next to jj.
dump speedy for jt and it’s a deal!
By honest_abe
May 8, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
or is he a FA? if so nevermind.
By mavid
May 8, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
nah, it would have to be a trade.
By Anakin Joe
May 8, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
News Flash. Hawks play Golden State twice. Baron has ALWAYS owned JT. You don’t avoid a player because he has an arch enemy. Gerald Wallace owns Josh Smith, do we need to get rid of Smith?
Here’s what I recall of JT with the Hawks. He came in and tried to be a leader immediately. He hit a few big shots. Babcock brought in SAR and Big Dog and JT was told he was too young to lead the team (presumably by the much older Robinson). JT lost his enthusiasm for his teammates and was traded shortly thereafter. He has spent the last few seasons with a proven leader, Avery Johnson. He is likely the odd man out because Mavs want to go young with Devin Harris (who can’t shoot or distribute and may be a big bust when given the reigns).
How about JT/Diop for Speedy/Zaza? Diop gives us a huge, young defensive center and Dallas gets back scoring in the post and a vet to back-up Devin Harris. And it works money-wise.
By Samuel
May 8, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
Speaking of a follower. Smartguy you seem to be doing a great job yourself. All these terms “shoot first” PG. Shooting is the name of the game. Most on this blog would and have called guys like BDavis, CBillips and AI shoot first. Jason Terry would be a 100% upgrade from anything we have now.
Bask to your Bonds nonsense. You already said he gained 40lbs so I suppose his size in clothing would rise also. Plus, back in the early 80’s styles were different. People wore tighter uniforms. I got 100lbs kids that wear size 7 1/2 caps. I wear a 8 1/2 Nike shoe and can wear some 10’s in Rebok.
All that still doesn’t prove he takes or took steriods. That’s circumstantial, not proof.
By honest_abe
May 8, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
sam: what is your infatuation with bonds nuts or lack thereof? first of all bonds is a non story. you are in a small group of maybe 10 that is excited to see this jerk break hank’s record. people hated bonds before he was accused of taking hgh and after watching his head blow up to a ridiculous size. seriously who has a head that big? lol… look sam maybe you’ll get this through your skull, baseball has issues and that’s not only with bonds. they still haven’t set a stringent drug policy. they don’t kick players out for a year for an offense which is exactly what it should be. you’re right nobody has proved that barry has been on anything but i don’t think that matters as perception is reality.
that trade would be ideal for the hawks but i dont’ see dallas pulling the trigger on that. maybe if we sweetened it by adding stoudamire to the deal, it could possibly happen. i really like the idea of exchanging jt/diop for zaza/speedy/stoudamire
By Wedgie Evans
May 8, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
A shoot-first PG wouldn’t necessarily be bad. Golden State’s roster is not that different from what the Hawks have, except Golden State obviously has a lot more depth, but their shoot-first PG Baron Davis is what makes them tick. JT is nowhere near as good as Baron, but the Hawks could certainly do worse in that salary range. After all, JT doesn’t get paid a whole lot more than Speedy. But if I had to choose between some of the available veterans, I’d rather have Mo Williams, because Williams puts up similar numbers and is younger. Like Mavid said though, the ideal scenario is if the Hawks can draft their PG of the future in Conley or Crittenton.
By Grant aka Midnight
May 8, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
Everyone we may already have are future pg. Let me introduce Cenk Akyol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFONk7PeQRg
By Ryder
May 8, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
For the record Joe Antonio Daniels averaged 11 assists per game in the first round, so I wouldn’t exactly call that doing nothing. However, I do agree with you that this team needs someone other than JJ who can create their own shot to keep defenses honest. In case Atlanta doesn’t get a first round pick this year (highly unlikely but still possible) then I think getting JT back would be a definitely good decision.
For the record people no one is going to accept a trade for Speedy. The Hawks are stuck with him and that bloated contract.
By cowa
May 8, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this
JT would be a good running mate with JJ, but I’m not sure he is the best running mate for JJ. Terry has a long contract, so we would need to make sure he is the best player available for the position.
I’ve also seen where Phoenix may be looking to move either Marion (which AJ has discussed before) or Amare. They have been saying that Phoenix may offer one of these guys and the Hawks pick this year (assuming we don’t get 1-3) to move up in the draft to get either Durant or Oden. But what if the Hawks did get 1 or 2. Would you do a deal of Amare, Banks and our draft pick (now in 08) for rights to Durant/Oden, Speedy, Zaza and Wright? If we got Durant, I think it would be a no brainer to do the deal. But what if it was Oden? Thoughts?
By honest_abe
May 8, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
wow thats news. why would phx want to trade stoudamire? doesnt’ make much sense to me.
By Samuel
May 8, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this
Abe,
Your wrong my man. Plenty of people see Bonds as a hero because this type of media lynching has happened before. Most of the people I know are happy to see him break the record.
You guys are the ones infatuated with his body parts.
By Anakin Joe
May 8, 2007 8:19 PM | Link to this
Abe, I’ve read the same, that Amare or Marion may go if Phoenix doesn’t make the Finals. They need to dump a massive cntract and Nash is obviously staying, so that leaves the other 2. I’m sure of they could dump any 2 of Banks, Thomas and Diaw, that would help. But that seems highly unlikely. Only way I see them trading Amare is if they get another big man whom they feel could better fit their system. Personally, I think Marion is the one who gets gone.
By Mike
May 8, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
Abe
You right, didn’t mean to toss sand at JT. When JT was here he put it down every night for the Hawks. JT would be an upgrade from what we, but how much. The problem with JT is his game is about the same as it was when he was with the Hawks. He’s been in the league 7 or 8 years. His game may have peaked. I think Dallas keep him, they just sign him to a long term deal. I think Devan George is the Guy they may try to move. I wouldn’t touch that guy with a ten feet pole.
I rather have one of the young PG’s in the draft, or Jack or Mo Williams. I still like Crittention at 6’5” that’s my guy. Hey if they take AJ or Tlue for JT then I’m all for it. Nobody is taking Speedy.
Abe
Honestly I think AJ could run the point while we groom a young PG. That’s why I’m looking for lady luck to bring us two picks. It’s our time to catch a break.
By jhan
May 8, 2007 10:00 PM | Link to this
Sam, not really interested in Barrys penis. You’re the one who brought it up in the first place.
We could do a lot worse than the trade for JT & Diop. Diop would look really nice next to Josh Smith & Solomon when we are trying to close out a game defensively.
I’m on the two pick bandwagon. It is our turn for a little lotto luck!
By Mike
May 8, 2007 10:31 PM | Link to this
I was looking for a still tonight in the Cleveland series, it want happen Jersey can’t beat Cleveland playing tentative. Man is this a boring series or what. Please bring on SA and the Jazz before I fall asleep.
By DULA-MAN
May 8, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this
hey sekou,
would love to hear your thoughts!!!
alright, this is going to sound kind of CRAZY considering the major changes we need @ the PG position. obviously, we need to hit local CHURCHES and pray for the top pick (GREG ODEN) this coming sunday. but we also need to get good & disgruntled players at bargain-basement prices! hence, smush parker is available and looking for a new home. he’s 100% more durable than speedy and at a price we can afford. his departure out of la-la land is DEFINITE and he has solid playoff experience as a young PG that will perfectly fit our upswing.
not to mention, we could easily unload royal ivey for him and not lose any cash!!! once he’s here, it will create a real competitive streak for minutes between parker, speedy, and t-lue!
sure he’s not billups nor j-kidd…but it would make an interesting mix w/ he and joe in backcourt!!!
i think we all agree that
By Chris D'
May 9, 2007 12:06 AM | Link to this
One of the first eight draft picks didn’t make the first or second team all rookie team the Knight(mare) never ends. Nice to see 3 quality rookie point guards again. Maybe one day we can draft a point guard.
Dula-Man,
Royal Ivey is out of contract and if he was under contract nobody would trade us anything for him. I think the most viable piece for the Hawks to move this offseason is T-Lue. Don’t think the Lakers would take it but T-Lue for Smush and Chris Mihm would be nice. The salaries don’t quite work.
By Samuel
May 9, 2007 6:22 AM | Link to this
Jhan,
Increased shoe size. Come on man.
By Peter
May 9, 2007 6:37 AM | Link to this
There’s been plenty of questionable (to be kind) decisions (never will understand just giving Rasheed away) and some bad luck.
The luck is going to change - TWO PICKS!
The questionable decisions? We could end up with two bad picks. Help us Jebus!
By smartguy
May 9, 2007 7:10 AM | Link to this
I said that we don’t need a shoot first point guard. I didn’t say that I think we need a point who doesn’t shoot or score. I want a point that can shoot well, and who can put up some points, but not one that frequently looks to shoot before even initiating the offense. Someone that can run an offense, create plays, involve his teammates, play solid defense, and still knock down an open jumper would be my ideal point. Obviously thats not revolutionary, nor are guys like that easy to find, but thats an ideal world.
Barry Bonds is just a rung below OJ on the ladder of infamy.
By doc
May 9, 2007 7:48 AM | Link to this
samuel …. grand jury findings. come on man. like him but dont pretend he isnt your everyday wwf gila monster blown up. heh heh
By jhan
May 9, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
Do some research Sam. Dan Patrick was talking about the exact same issue yesterday on the radio. There is no doubting Barry’s prowess at the plate. There is also no doubting that he used illegal drugs to enhance himself.
OJ was found not guilty as well. Do you think he had nothing to do with those murders? Do you think that everyone in jail who was found guilty is truly guilty? Common sense has to prevail at some point.
By mike
May 9, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this
Dula – Man
Not a bad suggestion. I like Smush Parker tenacity; He’s got a lot of up side. He’s a little of a hot head but I like him because he plays hard. Not sure if Woodson could deal with him. Probably would give him the Salim treatment. The Lakers wanted Tlue last maybe they’ll still take him. I’ll pass on Mimms.
I still believe this is our year to get lucky in the draft. With two draft picks and some roster moves, hey we’ll all get chance to meet each other at Phillips. The sad thing about the Hawks franchise is that Phillips is really a great place to watch a basketball game. There’s really no bad seats in the house. If the Spirit and BK don’t screw this up there could be a resurgence at Phillips. The fans would turn out in droves to cheer for the home team, not the opponent.
If we end up with one pick and take a Big. I think the Jack and Maglorier is the best FA deal. We get a PG and legit Big. A lot of people are down on Maglorier because of they stay he’s slow. But he can play the post and he blocks shots that are all we need from that position. I know will have to give up one our SF alone with ZaZa, hey they even have Lorenzen.
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