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By Big Al

January 8, 2007 03:07 PM | Link to this

It does seem like the Hawks would be getting the better of the deal. Lorenzen is on his last leg and other than the offensive fouls he accrues on screens, he doesn’t really fill up the stat line. Esteban hasn;t even played for us this season - give like two mop up appearances. Salim is the only guy I would hate to lose. Salim can shoot lights out, bring instant offense, and is a competitor (even if he lacks superior Defensive ability). Woodson seems to not like Salim or something because he doesn’t utilize him nearly enough IMO. If we get smart and get a new coach next season, I would like to see what Salim’s role would become playing for someone else.

By rob

January 8, 2007 03:17 PM | Link to this

That seems like such a no brainer it shouldn’t even be discussed. Batista doesn’t even play, Wright only fouls, and Salim won’t ever flourish here for whatever reason. This deal would be perfect!

By Tyger

January 8, 2007 03:28 PM | Link to this

Great deal, keep’em coming, however, until we get Speedy back on the bench or out of town, we’re spinning our wheels.

By Ernest

January 8, 2007 03:29 PM | Link to this

If that deal was really on the table, I’d make it before others in the league got wind of it. True, Brendan is somtimes called soft but a change in environment could do wonders for him. Having Zaza come off the bench could also help by having an offensive 4/5 come in against the opponents 2nd team.

By Astro Joe

January 8, 2007 03:32 PM | Link to this

Haywood is soft and is being offered because he isn’t using his tremendous size to be an impactful player. Hayes hasn’t been healthy since he left UGA and I’m not sure how he fits with Childress, Smith, Marvin & JJ.

From a Wizards standpoint, Magloire is the slowest center under 30 years old in NBA history. While I know they want a low-post scorer for the half-court centric playoffs, Jamaal would force a lot of 4 on 5 fast breaks as he stays on the offensive side of the floor.

Can we trade Lo Wright & Salim straight up for Juan Dixon?

By doc

January 8, 2007 03:36 PM | Link to this

i would be giddy to see that one go down. bk’s meter might go up a bit if it came to fruition. as stupid as he has seemed memphis did well with the talent he brought in and has done nothing since and seemed to have squandered whatever he had there as west made some dismal changes in the short term coming into this season to see it blow up with only one single major injury.

also of note in memphis are ownership issues there as from the sniff i got from one article when they fired fratello. they are making a true chase to the bottom and wouldnt it be reasonable to maybe push for the gasol even if we “had” to give up zaza? this team is desparate for inside scoring as much as it is for interior defense.

realiity though, to make it work, who does the wiz have to fill haywood slot, etan?

By D-Row

January 8, 2007 03:37 PM | Link to this

The only problem i would see in this trade is that we will give up Salim, (Who i like a lot, put up 20 a game if he is used right.) but that is the problem, he isnt used like he should be here. Maybe a change of scenery like Portland might be where he could shine.

By alex

January 8, 2007 03:39 PM | Link to this

well personally i like the idea of having brendan haywood and jarvis hayes on the Hawks,but to give up salim stoudamire is something i dont want to see happen.think about it,this man can shoot from anywhere ont the floor.and even though he hasnt done it so far,the hawks could definitley use an extra shooter to take the load of of joe johnson.and look at lorenzen wright.he’s a great influence on the younger players and he can still rebound and be a presence for the Hawks.so to me the hawks should just stick with the team that they have now but they could cut or trade batista in my opinion

By CLS

January 8, 2007 03:44 PM | Link to this

I’d hate to lose Salim. I agree under the right circumstances, he could flourish. He’d be lethal receiving passes on a penetrate and kick offense. Although his play doesn’t seem to support that style very much. He does alot of penetrating in his game versus spotting up for the open shot. But in any case, our team as it is, just doesn’t get enough consistent penetration.

With that being said, I like this trade. We’re gonna have to give up something, and this trade I think, minimalizes our losses.

I’ve thought about Haywood before. After hearing about how he and Etan Thomas literally came to blows over who was gonna start up there, I knew they’d be willing to move one of those guys.

And we’d definitely get some scoring in Jarvis Hayes. When healthy, the guy can fill it up. We get back alot of what we’d be losing in Salim.

By Willie Coyote

January 8, 2007 03:44 PM | Link to this

I think Zaza is most valuable to the Hawks as a trading asset. I’d like to see if they can get some value for him before everyone else realizes that whatever points and rebounds he gets are offset by that inconsistent midrange game and the complete lack of defense.

If Haywood is as soft as people say then don’t bring him anwhere near the Hawks. Maybe he needs to play for Charlotte. I know MJ wouldn’t stand for a fellow Tar Heel being labeled as soft if he could help it.

I guess I’ll wait and see what happens since I can’t influence anything anyway.

By William

January 8, 2007 03:54 PM | Link to this

The Hawks should be trying to trade Lorenzen for Melvin Ely.

Ely is a skilled low post scorer, but is lacking in the rebounding and defensive department. I know that doesn’t sound great, but Lorenzen has been lacking on defense and rebounding AND adds nothing to the offense. Next i would try and get Haywood for Zaza. Good trade for the Wiz and the HAwks. And soft as he is, Haywood is still a upgrade defensively and on the boards over Zaza. Zaza on the other hand is a better offensive rebounder, is faster up the court than Haywood and would work better in Washingtons high octane offense.

That would give the Hawks a nice line up with a legit center in the middle, moving Sheldon to the starting 4 until Josh gets back, Marvin at the 3, JJ at the two and Speedy at the point, with Ely backing up the PF, Solomon Jones getting more PT at the back up center(and Batista to back him up when he gets in to his foul trouble)

If nothing else, go and pick back up the big Greek from training camp who was recently released by Seattle. He almost made the cut, he knows the “offense” (yes that was a shot at woodson) and once again, has legit size, and better post moves than any other Hawk big…something the Hawks are missing.

By Wedgie Evans

January 8, 2007 03:55 PM | Link to this

Brendan Haywood is a soft center and Jarvis Hayes is an underachieving swingman. Last I checked, the Hawks already have a soft center and a bunch of underachieving swingmen. Why would the Hawks want to give up their best long-range shooter to create even more logjams on a roster already filled with logjams?

Batista and Wright are basically throw-ins, but Salim is a commodity that I think the Hawks could get more for in a trade. The Hawks need a reliable post scorer and a reliable post defender, and this trade gets them neither.

If you are going after a center on the Wizards, get Etan Thomas. At least he can rebound and block shots, even if he can’t score. And as a bonus, he’ll contribute some enlightened poetry.

By newkid

January 8, 2007 04:02 PM | Link to this

Just after the November, ‘06 Haywood-Etan Thomas flair up, I think we may have briefly kicked around the idea of a Lo Wright/Salim for Haywood deal. Seems Joe doesn’t like it any more now than he did when we originally discussed (Haywood too soft). Sounds to me like a move that’ll help us at the 5-spot at the defensive end without sacrificing any critical component of current squad. Hope it gets done.

By Ryder

January 8, 2007 04:30 PM | Link to this

I live in DC and I can tell you without question that getting Brendan “the stay soft marshmallow” Haywood would be an absolute mistake! However, once BK sees the word SF in the deal that means he’ll jump on it, regardless of Hayes’ injury history.

If Atlanta really wants to make some noise, how about trading for Gasol and give JJ some help?

By Ryder

January 8, 2007 04:31 PM | Link to this

I live in DC and I can tell you without question that getting Brendan “the stay soft marshmallow” Haywood would be an absolute mistake! However, once BK sees the word SF in the deal that means he’ll jump on it, regardless of Hayes’ injury history.

If Atlanta really wants to make some noise, how about trading for Gasol and give JJ some help? All Memphis has to do is tell BK he’s a 7 foot small forward and he’ll jump at the chance to get him!

By kjb

January 8, 2007 04:47 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Haywood doesn’t get many defensive rebounds. He looks awkward and goofy. But somehow, his team usually does better when he’s on the court (going by the scoreboard), especially on the defensive end. This season, the Wiz allow 10 points per 100 possessions fewer when Haywood is on the floor than when he sits. It was about the same difference in 04-05. Atlanta could do a lot worse.

By Oh yody yo

January 8, 2007 04:50 PM | Link to this

Trade Woody and Billy for a stool sample. Now that’s equal value.

By John

January 8, 2007 04:52 PM | Link to this

Why would the Wizards make this trade? They’ve been playing awesome ball, and trading Hayes and Haywood may break up chemistry.

By Tupac Shakur

January 8, 2007 04:53 PM | Link to this

Brendan Haywood and Jarvis Hayes? Are they kin to Spencer and Elvin?

By J.T. Magee

January 8, 2007 04:59 PM | Link to this

Sekou, ESPN stole that from RealGM. They took the salaries from Hoopshype, who were able to steal them from RealGM. Those salaries aren’t supposd to be released. Just thought I’d give credit where credit was due. ATL needs help for Zaza, Haywood is that. Portland is just getting rid of Mags for scrap metal and the outside gunner they need in Salim. Washington does it to get rid of Haywood’s contract and Hayes, who isn’t fitting in anywhere on that team. Expect Donell Taylor to get his minutes.

By Scott

January 8, 2007 05:02 PM | Link to this

Trade Billy and Woody for a stool sample!! That is terrific. If that deal is even close to being on the table, we should do that without even blinking. I dont’ care how soft Haywood is according to Wizards fans, he would immediately be ten times better than the 7 feet of poop we have in Wright.

By cowa

January 8, 2007 05:19 PM | Link to this

From a skills standpoint, there is no doubt the Hawks should do this trade. From a salary cap standpoint, I’m not sure. Haywood’s contract goes through 2010, going up $500K each year, starting at $4.5M this year up to $6M in the last year. Hayes only has a commitment through this year, and he’s a restricted FA this summer. Would cost us a minimum of $3.5M to keep him.

With no real centers coming through college except for Oden, this seems like a good use of $4.5M in salary cap space. Haywood does bring what we need, rebounding and shot blocking. Hayes could be a great role player on this team if the Hawks make some other moves as well.

I still think the Hawks trade Lue to Miami for Doleac and their #1 pick if Miami is in the playoff hunt come February.

With Haywood, Zaza, Smith, Sheldon, Marvin and Jones all looking for minutes at the 3-4-5, I would think you start looking for a stud PF or PG. Now to find a willing partner.

By Fred B.

January 8, 2007 05:28 PM | Link to this

Sekou, yes i would do this deal in a heartbeat. Think about it, what has Salim really done since he’s been hear. Woody has started to use Royal Ivey in the rotation lately than he has Stoudamire and although Wright is the type of veteran presence that couldn’t hurt to have in the lockerroom he and Batista are backups at best. My main concern is will BK have the gonads to pull this off because quite frankly i think this is just what this team needs - a bit of a shakeup

By Gutz

January 8, 2007 05:36 PM | Link to this

I totally agree that I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Haywood is a legit 7 footer who is leaps and bounds better than the Bum Lo Wright. I’ve seen him play a lot and he can score and block shots with ease. I also don’t think he is that “soft”. I’ve never seen it for him to be known for just that anyways. Hayes is a lights out shooter as well that could come off the bench much like Salim does now to give us a scoring punch. The main player we want is Haywood and he is totally worth it for 2 bums like Batista and Wright who are useless in our minds. So basically were giving Salim for Haywood and Hayes! Thats a steal of a trade for us.

By St. Bernard

January 8, 2007 05:44 PM | Link to this

No doubt, you do this deal. I haven’t posted in almost a year, because we say the same thing. We have to get a center and pg. Speedy wasn’t the answer and neither was Wright. Cut your loses and try something else. Look for Steele at Alabama for the pg spot in a traded draft pick and pray we lose enough to get Oden.

By FC

January 8, 2007 05:57 PM | Link to this

Wiz fan from DC here…tell me again why we should take that bum Magloire? I can’t even picture him fitting in our up tempo offense. I don’t believe in getting rid of trash for trash. Hey might as well ask Georghe Muresan to play he’s at every game in the lower level by section 106!

By Mash

January 8, 2007 06:32 PM | Link to this

That’s an interesting scenario, thanks for keeping us posted. But, as far the having “to give something to get something”….I seem to recall Billy Knight finding a way to give Rasheed Wallace away and receive nothing in return.

By Masood

January 8, 2007 06:34 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t hestitate to pull the trigger on that deal. Not only would it land us one of the few legit centers left in the league, which we desperately need in a division with Dwight Howard and Shaq, but the proposed throw in player in the deal, Jarvis Hayes, has sixth man of the year caliber talent. Like everyone else, I like Salim’s game, but Hayes is a better all around player who can shoot almost as well as Salim when he gets going.

On a side note, perhaps Hayes and Stoudamire would both elevate their games in their respective hometowns.

By Dominic

January 8, 2007 06:37 PM | Link to this

I am a portland fan that saw this article. This trade benefits Atlanta the most. Every other team gets a downgrade. Portland already has dixon shooting up enough and add Salim to the picture and that could be terrible. Also, Estaban Batista and Lorenzen Wright aren’t extremely talented. The worst end of the deal is Washington gettin a player who is as slow as magloire.

By Jimmy Bogroff

January 8, 2007 06:43 PM | Link to this

Why on Earth would Portland do this? None of the players they get back would be a contributer to their team. I can see the Wizards and Hawks both benefitting from this, but there’s NO WAY the Blazers would do this. Am I missing a draft pick here?

By Masood

January 8, 2007 06:55 PM | Link to this

Jimmy, the Blazers benefit by clearing Magloire’s contract off the books, and it allows them to begin developing LaMarcus Aldridge. The only reason they even play Magloire at all right now is to gauge interest for him in a potential trade.

Aldridge is the center of the future for the Blazers. No need in keeping a cancerous, sulking veteran around him or any of the other players in that extremely young locker room. You don’t want a repeat of the Rasheed Wallace/Jermaine O’Neal scenario do you?

By Chris D'

January 8, 2007 06:58 PM | Link to this

If Billy Knight could convince Washington and Portland to do this deal my opinion of him would rise above total disdain.

Ely is wanting out of Charlotte. Atlanta would consider him a major upgrade for our rotation but he isn’t good enough to get any minutes on a 3 year old expansion franchise. Did I mention my disdain for Billy Knight yet today?

By Chris D'

January 8, 2007 07:02 PM | Link to this

This trade would be done by Portland and Washington only for some sort of cap relief. I am not sure how it would benefit Portland since Magloire is in the last year of his contract.

By Chris D'

January 8, 2007 07:06 PM | Link to this

Cowa,

Thanks for the cap implications. It makes sense for Washington to free up some cap space. Not sure why Portland would do it with their depth at 2 and Magloire coming off the books this year.

By FC

January 8, 2007 07:48 PM | Link to this

If we (Wizards) end up getting Magloire, I will personally find a way to trade him for Gheorge Muresan…what do you guys think of this trade?

By Jay

January 8, 2007 07:50 PM | Link to this

There really is no reason for the Wizards to do that trade.

And I dont see what the hawks would have to gain, really. Salim has been off but when he’s hot he can score in bunches…something only one other player on this team can do. Plus where we gonna play Hayes…behind Chills and Marvin? There are no minutes there.

By Sailm Stoudemire

January 8, 2007 09:17 PM | Link to this

I’m outta here !!

By Steve T

January 8, 2007 09:47 PM | Link to this

I like the fact that we can get another shot blocker, but I am not willing to give up Esteban. If we get a guy like Haywood, we will need to pair him with a strong rebounder. Esteban may be that man. I can see a line up of Josh Smith, JJ, Haywood, Zaza and Speedy. This line up looks pretty good.

By Floze

January 8, 2007 10:29 PM | Link to this

For a team that is pretty horrible, Portland has a lot assets to trade - any of which Atlanta could use. Prizbilla or LaFrentz, could step in and be our number one center right now for Salim. If Portland is trying to get of rid of some salary I say we take Zach Randolph off their hands for any forward on our roster.

By Clyde

January 8, 2007 10:41 PM | Link to this

FIRE BILLY AND WOODY

By CLS

January 8, 2007 10:52 PM | Link to this

Well I see this rumor has gone from a small blog, to front page of the Hawks section. Guess this means it won’t actually happen, since as Sekou says, (which truly is usually the case), legit trades usually aren’t rumored about before they actually happen.

Although in the case of the Hawks, all they’re moves have been public knowledge well in advance… the JJ trade, the drafting of Shelden. To this point, they’ve never tried to hide their hand!

By vdunkndunk

January 8, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this

I would do this trade in half-a-second. Lo Wright sucks and is worthless at this point (on the court, at least), and Hayes is better overall than Salim, and Esteban doesn’t get on the court.

But most of all, Haywood is a rugged center with size, and he rebounds and blocks shots at a high rate. And even when he doesn’t block shots, he’s the space-eater we just don’t have on this team. That’s just the kind of guy that I think would make Josh Smith more effective at PF.

He averages 13 rpg and 3.50 blocks per 40 mintues…pretty good. He’s almost the exact opposite of Zaza, and they could make a pretty decent 1-2 punch for us at center because they compliment eachother well.

By reese

January 8, 2007 11:43 PM | Link to this

If this deal is a reality, then the hawks should have already signed the necessary papers.

Woodson is already displaying his displeasure with the assets BK has provided by not playing salim and slava.

Although, I haven’t seen Brendan Haywood play much, Stats don’t lie. He has averaged more than 1 block each season he has been in the NBA and he has a over a 50% field goal average.

Lorenzen wright only has 1 season in which he has averaged more than 1 block per season and he has never shot over 50%.

Jarvis Hayes is a taller version of salim.

Most importantly, it raises the age of the hawks, it increases the height of the hawks, it improves the defensive intensity of the hawks, it provides the complimentary player that zaza needs playing next to him and it allows the hawks to consider trading one of their many forwards for another player.

By Jack

January 9, 2007 12:04 AM | Link to this

1, Speedy has got to go, move JJ back to point guard.

2, Childress, Marvin, and Sheldon are all fighting for two spots. NO MORE Forwards.

What is management thinking? JJ comes off a career year and they change his position? Big bucks to a guard the hornets couldnt even TRADE?

Unbelievable

By Volman

January 9, 2007 12:16 AM | Link to this

Yeah guys, let’s not get our hopes up here…

Maybe the Hawks front office knows the bloggers on here are the diehard fans and that SEkou is our medium to the Hawks… and that they’re trying to tell us something. I can imagine can’t I?

I am happy to hear Josh is pain-free right now and coming back soon..AND T-Lue..thank the Lord.. maybe he can pick up some of the slack for JJ.

go hawks!!!!

By Volman

January 9, 2007 12:32 AM | Link to this

Jack, Joe was mostly a 2-guard during last year. He started out at POINT, but wasn’t getting any shots off and had to switch to 2. Joe wants a PG who can get him some shots up.. He doesn’t want to waste all of his energy bringing the ball up the court. Please keep the facts right.. Correct me if I’m wrong people.

Speedy is doing well when he’s healthy..let’s just keep him healthy!

Jack, what about Josh Smith?

By reese

January 9, 2007 12:49 AM | Link to this

Doc, yes you did catch me in a knock on JJ by calling him the 4th best player on the Suns. However, I don’t think that the Parish comparison holds up because Parish scored and defended in a position that is hard to replace.

JJ played in the 3 spot and that is an easier position to fill. The fact that Amare was gone last season and even with his return this season, Phoenix does not miss JJ. Raja Bell and Leandro Barbosa have produced similar offensive and defensive stats as well as relieving ball handling duties from Nash.

I am happy that JJ is a hawk. However, we need a lot more than JJ. We need more grown men and fewer young college men who are still developing physically/emotionally.

The trade that sekou mentions is just a baby step in that direction. Even if the trade is made, JJ has got to return to the intensity level in which he played the first 5 games of the season. Especially since he is making more money than the first (nash) and second best (stoudemire) Phoenix players.

I say this not to criticize JJ but to help people understand that in order for JJ to be a true all star and to be on the olympic team over Kobe Bryant/Gilbert Arenas/Dwayne Wade at the 2 spot, then he has to consistently play at a much higher level on both the offensive and defensive end.

As far as BK’s thriftyness, I’m going to leave it alone because I like you do not know the true story.

By Jimmy Bogroff

January 9, 2007 01:31 AM | Link to this

Masood,

Magloire’s trade value is much higher than three redundant players. That’s how the Blazers acquired him in the first place and they aren’t about to “scrap him out.” None of the players received would be an upgrade over their current roster. Why make change only to make change? There are a number of other teams needing the low post scoring and depth that Magloire provides. The Blazers would be better off dealing Magloire directly to Washington for Haywood and Hayes (if that’s the offer).

Nearly any Eastern Conference team especially one in the “Titanic” Division would be interested in Magloire and has much more to offer.

By vdunkndunk

January 9, 2007 03:00 AM | Link to this

Side note: the SEC just smacked the Big-10’s best team around like they were nothing. And I believe Auburn would have done the same thing to USC two years ago when they got ripped off.

Games like this show that it’s harder for an SEC team to look good all season than it is for a team like Ohio State, Texas, or USC that plays all by itself in a weak conference without other elite teams.

Florida had to play LSU (maybe the second best team in the country) and Auburn (who was good enough to beat Florida and LSU), not to mention Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, and FSU. All in the same season. I don’t think any team in the nation could have gone undefeated against that schedule.

And that’s why we need a playoff. If voters hadn’t had a last second change of heart, we would have had a Michigan-Ohio State rematch and everyone would think those were the two best teams in the nation. Yet Florida wins 41-14 and Michigan didn’t fare any better against USC.

By kaiser

January 9, 2007 05:19 AM | Link to this

Trade for Kobe.

By Peter

January 9, 2007 07:03 AM | Link to this

I like Haywood but will he punch Zaza in the eye for his spot.
I am not sure about Jarvis. Will he play behind Joe at the 2? Can he stay healthy? Does he come off the bench?

Lo Wright is a bit overweight and commits too many stupid fouls. Salim is a great shooter but commits too many turnovers because of his spot minutes. They need to open up the rotation and playbook to maximize this roster.

What was the point of picking up Dijon Thompson and Slava? Actually why did they get Slava in the first place. They could have gotten any *HEALTHY * NBDL player instead(Andre Brown). They should have opened up the rotation to S. Jones and Batista before signing Slava to a 600k contract. His career is over.

Hawks need to stop bottom-feeding

By Peter

January 9, 2007 07:15 AM | Link to this

Wright may be a bust for this team. Too many fouls.

By wildkard58

January 9, 2007 07:40 AM | Link to this

No. If a team is gonna trade away expiring contracts and young (cheap) talent it has to get something of value in return. All three teams are buying into potential while giving away potential. Magloire gives a team the potential for an $8 million free agent. Haywood gives a team a potential shot blocker. Stoudemire gives a team a potential whatever. In all 3 cases teams are no better off than before, just the potential to get better - which is a case of having more hope than before the trade.

By Ken Rabin

January 9, 2007 08:18 AM | Link to this

The way Haywood is playing now, I doubt the Wiz would go for this deal. Every news report I read on Magloire says he is increasingly lead-footed, which would not make sense for the Wiz offense…

By is1531

January 9, 2007 08:42 AM | Link to this

The only reason the Wizards would consider this trade is for cap space only.The Wizards with the dynamic trio of Arenas,Jamerson and and Butler running their fast break would leave Magliore behind on every fast break.I do not want Magliore on the Wizards.The 8 million savings in free agency is not going to bring a top flight center to Washington.

Sam Dalembert does fit the Wizards game.However I do not see Dalembert going to Washington.

Now that panic sticken Larry Brown is on the scene it will not take much for Larry to recommend another one of his trades.Look for the 76ers to be active at the trading deadline.The 76ers are looking for expiring contracts and might be willing to part with Andre Miller to just to get out of a cap bind created by Chis Webber.The 76ers will be cap free after next season when Webber’s 22 milion contract come off the books.

By Kevin

January 9, 2007 08:52 AM | Link to this

The response for this trade shows how much people in Atlanta want the Hawks to start winning! Many are willing to take a chance and with what is being given up (all have their limitations), I would welcome another big man here. We have very little to work with in the middle and we need to offset the load we put on Joe every night. I have always said Joe needs someone inside who is a threat and Haywood is better than Wright and Batista. Also, Salim is not stepping up when given the opportunity, and since he is limited defensively, then there is no reason why we don’t try to get offensive help for this team. We don’t score 100 points and we don’t compete consistently if we can’t reach that plateau. Also, keeping us so far under the cap doesn’t help either.

By big m

January 9, 2007 08:57 AM | Link to this

It’s a good trade if Haywood is a NBA starting center. He has a 4 years remaining on his contract over 5 million dollars/year average. I would be great if they could get a draft pick thrown in. Hopefully move up in draft and get a point guard or power forward/center.

By macaroni Tony

January 9, 2007 09:22 AM | Link to this

We are the number one injuried team in the NBA. If we were healthy like everyone else then we would be fine also. Give this team time to get healthy is the solution not all this trade talk. Teams have to GEL together, that is what makes them better not being negative….

By Dee T

January 9, 2007 09:41 AM | Link to this

I would HATE to see Salim go because mark-my-words, he would KILL us everytime he play against us…He would have a message to prove everytime just like Nique’s nephew w/ the Sonics..he plays he’s heart out everytime we play them to make us realize what we could have had!! Dont let Salim go..Let Mike Woodson go cause he is the one that doesnt play his players right..they leave us just to play better..take Bois D for example!!

Dee

By bill

January 9, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Why would any team in the league want Lorenzen Wright?

By Astro Joe

January 9, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Michael Redd’s injury may help get JJ in the All-Star game. But I think he is still behind Caron Butler on the list of new wing players looking for the Las Vegas trip. Let’s be honest, JJ (or Woody) has not figured out how to handle the double team that virtually every team is throwing at him. He’s getting shut down by other teams. He hasn’t figured out where the double team is coming from and obviously his teammates are not telling him. So instead of passing out to a cutting teammate, the offense stalls. I’m sure others have noticed how much better the offense flows without JJ in the game of late. Darn shame that a simple double team has renedered the entire offense ineffective over the past 10 games. But hey, I’m sure there is no coaching in the world that can cure that, only healthy players can resolve the problems with a double team (yeah, right).

By Sagliba

January 9, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Question is, why would Wizards give up Haywood and Hayes for Magloire (a 2 for 1 deal)?

Magloire is over-the-hill and is on last year of his contract. OTOH, Wizards went 10-2 with Haywood starting, I doubt if they are ready to part with him. Magloire is a better scorer, but Haywood a better shot-blocker. As the 2nd highest scoring team and the 2nd worst defending team, guess which one Wizards need more?

As for Hayes, even though he has not played well this season, he represents their already thin bench. By throwing him in as a 2 for 1 trade would make their bench even thinner.

By Jesse

January 9, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

I don’t see what “hope” this trade rumor really provides for any of the 3 teams involved. Each team would be getting castoffs and roster garbage from other teams. The Hawks don’t need another lazy center or an oft-injured SF. They need someone to run the show, get the young players involved, and set up some sort of offense. It’s called a point guard. No not Speedy or JJ or Salim or Lue. Portland doesn’t need any of the players the Hawks would be sending. They just don’t want Magloire around. They should have kept Steve Blake around. The Blazers need a SF now that Miles had microfracture surgery. Hey I think the Hawks have about 6 they could offer. The Wizards don’t need $8 mill in cap room, and they don’t need Magloire. They’re not a halfcourt team. Samuel Dalembert IS exactly what they need. So how do the Hawks get there floor general, the Blazers get there wing player, and the Wizards get Dalembert? The draft, the draft, and trading draft picks.

By Jimmy Bogroff

January 9, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

I agree with Jesse. As a Blazer fan we would love to see a player like Josh Childress in a Blazer uniform. I’m not saying that Magloire for Childress is of equal value, but it does seem that the Hawks and Blazers have complimentary excessive parts. We’ve got too many bigs and you’ve got too many wings. Raef La Frentz would be a good addition to the Hawks and wouldn’t get in Zaza’s way like Haywood might. Of course his contract is out of control, so that’s probably not an option. But we can always speculate …

By Dave

January 9, 2007 01:52 PM | Link to this

As a Wiz fan, I would be very surprised if the Wiz would include Haywood in a trade for Magloire.

Haywood is a solid player with a long-term contract very friendly to the team ($4.5M this year and increasing gradually to $6M in 2009/10).

Magloire is a high priced one-year rental (an expiring $8.3M contract). If the Wiz can’t resign him at a much lower price, it leaves the team with a big hole in the middle for years to come. That’s an unacceptable risk.

A more sensible deal for the Wiz is to offer Jarvis Hayes and Etan Thomas for Magloire. Before a recent injury, Thomas was starting ahead of Haywood at center (where he was doing a great job). However, Thomas has a long-term contract that is less team friendly ($5.8M this year and rising to $7.3M in 2009/10) and he has been injury prone.

By the way, I suspect Portland is so eager to get rid of Magloire that the Hawks would have to contribute little more than players with matching salaries.

By Zeke

January 9, 2007 02:53 PM | Link to this

This trade makes no sense for the Wizards. At All. First off, Haywood has been a beast since getting back the starting spot, to the tune of 9 points and 9 rebounds. Same production you are likely to get from Magloire. Also he doesn’t really fit the Wiz’s style of run n gun. Also the Wiz are in desperate need of bench players, with Hayes being one of the few quality players of the bench. Why trade him for a more expensiv e, maybe not better, version of Haywood???

By gary.clark

January 9, 2007 03:47 PM | Link to this

Nice piece on the three-way deal. We posted and linked it at sportsfrog.com:

http://www.sportsfrog.com/2007/01/nbathreewaywizhawksand_bla.php

Keep up the good work.

By Mike Hiogue

January 10, 2007 08:25 AM | Link to this

The Wizards should trade Etan Thomas, their upcoming 2007 1st round draft pick, and the point guard they have playing over seas to the Clippers for Elton Brand. This would have the Wizards in the Championship.

By shan

January 13, 2007 03:55 PM | Link to this

THE HAWKS ARE IMPROVING BUT MANAGEMENT NEED TO STOP RECRUITTING ON BEHALF OF TRYING TO MAKE NBA PLAYERS OUT OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS.IT HAVE BEEN TO MUCH TALENT TO COME OUT OF GEORGIA COLLEGES AND THEY WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TRY SOME OF THE HOMETOWN GUYS AND SEE WHAT YOU GOT ,WE ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOU BUT THE GUYS FROM GEORGIA COLLEGES ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY REMEMBER WHO SUPPORT YOU GEORGIA GEORGIA GEORGIA WAKE UP

By pablo bosque

January 16, 2007 09:15 PM | Link to this

This sounds like a bad idea, although getting inside help would be nice. But I’d hate to lose Salim - he is part of the young core that will be responsible for this team’s success down the line. He was great in college but has yet to find his niche in the NBA. Think about how he would flourish on a team like the Suns, where he could catch and shoot all night on kickouts from Nash. He could score 25 a game. That’s an extreme example, but the Hawks should realize his potential and not deal him away like they did Terry, Harrington, Sheed…Dominique Wilkins. I would hate to see the Hawks trade any of that young core group - Salim, Josh Childress, Marvin Williams, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith. It would be shortsighted. And they need a point guard, although it would be nice to swap Claxton with someone gullible enough to take over his contract. Other than that, I say scrap the rest of the roster and open up the checkbook for a quality veteran center who can play defense and help lead the team when things get tense at the end of games. Too bad Ben Wallace isn’t available.

By denny

January 22, 2007 02:31 AM | Link to this

that is a terrible trade. This trade wouldn’t help the Blazers at all. The Blazers would be crazy to pull the trigger on this deal. Besides Jamal has been playing good for the Blazers as of late. No deal!!!!!!