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By Harry Hawk

May 22, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

There’s no way that the Hawks will be able to sign Cassell. I am going to assume that E.T. (as I call him) is going to want to do another reclamation project. You have to believe that the man wants another ring and I will be shocked if he doesn’t sign with a title contender next year.

As for the AI business, I don’t care how many tatts the guy has, how much he “holds down” young players or how selfish he is with the ball. The fact is that he is an all-time great player. Even so, he doesn’t fit with the Hawks. The fact that he’s in his 30s and so talented would require him to be the leader of the team. I just don’t think that would work out well. Is Iverson’s talent and ability worth Harrington, this year’s first-rounder and Childress? Probably, but the Hawks would be better off if Joe Johnson scored 25 a game and dropped an assist or two off his stats by adding a point guard who can set the offense and get the team running.

By Harry Hawk

May 22, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

That should read…”I am going to assume that E.T. (as I call him) is NOT going to want to do another reclamation project.”

Ugh.

By Alec

May 22, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

Sekou, I really do believe that the Hawks have a supporting cast than Philly. A.I and JJ in the backcourt would give Atlanta two of the best penetrators in the NBA, which should explode the games of others around them.

I’d love to have Cassell too, but he wants to play for a proven winner, we aren’t proven….YET!

By Tyger

May 22, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

I love AIs game and if we could get him for Harrington, Donta/Ivey + 2nd pick, I’d pull the trigger. Just dont touch our core and that includes Marvin and Childress.

I’d rather keep our cap space and work free agency and draft and build for the long haul. We’ve seen too much of the knee jerk reaction, prompted by articles like these, during the Babcock era. See Big Dog, Theo, SAR.

By Matt

May 22, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

I’ve been back and forth over the guy, but I think Iverson could be the Answer here, too. I think his supporting cast is horrible. He hasn’t had another back court mate that could draw defense like Joe Johnson EVER. If we throw them both back there as a pair of shooting / point guards, I think they could stir up a ton of trouble in the East.

-matt Hotlanta Hawks Blog

By mountain_jim

May 22, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

All I know is that this is really going to be an interesting offseason for Billy and his Hawks.

I have the same issues with A.I. everyone else in the blogs have, but the main reason I have to be against this is his HUGE cap-eating salary level. If his cap-charge and salary were halved, I think I would be for the move, as long as first draft pick and nucleus retained, but I know that’s not how it works in the NBA…

mj

By Zack

May 22, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

Sekou,

Look,the hawks cant just keep back on getting a supperstar like A.I. They should trade away some of thier many forwords. They cant just save thier cap room forever. Plus Billy Knight already has almost all Atlanta hating him. If A.I. works out and would send the Hawks to the playoffs, Billy Knight would HAVE alot more people like him.

By Jay

May 22, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Sekou, for being the voice of reason on the ajc staff. Dont smoke whatever Schultz is puffing on.

By Opposite Day?

May 22, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

I went to 12 Hawks games this year (they won 4). I swear on everything I own that if they acquire the cancer and franchise-killer that is Allen Iverson, I won’t attend a single game next season or until he’s gone. Don’t they remember Isaiah Rider?

By Ed W.

May 22, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

I agree with you that they shouldn’t trade for A.I. I saved my rant for Schultz’s blog.

I also agree that Cassell would be a good addition. I think the Hawks could have a chance at getting him if they are willing to pay a few million more per year than anyone else. While he might not be crazy about a rebuilding project, he already has rings from his days in Houston and has complained a lot in teh past about being underpaid. He could just go for the money.

By Samuel

May 22, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

Cuz,

I gotta disagree with you here. The reason Philly did not make the playoffs is definately not because of AI. They gave away one of their better inside players in Marc Jackson, Dalembert “sucked” all season and Kyle “freekin” Korver wants everybody to work their a* off and he just stand out on the 3pt line and jack up threes. Iguodala is a good player but no JJ. Sure they had Webber but come on he’s playing on one leg.

AI is a winner and will do whatever it takes to win. Check his minutes per game. He scores because he has too. You guys forget that he singlehandedly took the 6ers to the Finals a few years ago and has not lost a step. Put he and JJ in the same back court and: TELL ME WHO HAS A BETTER BACKCOURT THAN THE HAWKS!!!!!!! Detriot Maybe but that’s about it. I don’t think you can pass up an opportunity like that.

Yes, we do have some “good” young talent but no “great” players yet. Allen Iverson is a Hall of Famer. How many Hall of Famers have worn a Hawks uniform. We aint got “that” much to lose.

I can’t believe you guys are so casually talking about actually putting bodies in Phillips Arena. The place is practically a ghost town in case you haven’t noticed. What’s wrong with a few sellout crowds and a playoff run every now and then.

By honest abe

May 22, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

when i first heard the AI rumors…. i was very cynical….so many questions…he shoots too much, he can be immature, he has taken a pounding over the years by constantly driving into the lane…..BUT then i did something dangerous and i sat there and thought about it…

I thought about the best year of AI’s career…the 2001 season when he made it to the NBA championship….the key to that team was let AI play the 2 and have a guy that can handle the point, yet have enough size to guard the other teams shooting guard….they had eric snow in his prime…they also had aaron mckie to help relive ball handling duties….mckie and snow “were” very good ball handlers and they both played tenacious defense….

jj is eric snow times 1000 he can guard the opposing teams two and still run the point…he would work very nicely alongside AI…you have josh smith who would benefit from open looks due to the fact that both guys have the ability to get in the lane and find the open man….the key as we all know is to find a big…need a presence in the middle….that 01 76ers team started with ratliff and ended with mt mutombo…

finally the only way AI would work with this young nucleaus is for the hawks to open up their game plan…and play an up and down style of basketball….a starting five of AI, JJ, Jsmith(jsmoove sounds stupid), and marvin plus one veteran vet that can block would be a scary team to face…they could be the suns of the east….with the improvement in Jsmith’s shot…all four of those guys can space the floor and shoot the ball…i think we could create mismatches on just about any team….so if we’re able to sign a quality big…LETS GO GET AI!!!!!!!!!!!!

By honest abe

May 22, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

one more thing…AI is one of the best players i have seen during my short lifetime….say what you want about his immaturity..his lifestyle(which there hasn’t been much to talk about lately), he is a gamer…he goes out there in his skinny 6’1 frame and lays it all on the line every night…guy shoots more free throws than kobe or vince…..i think that kind of dedication and fearlessness will only help this young hawks team

By The Flash

May 22, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

Don’t see it, as in not at all. Take away the first 16 games, add a year of experience, I’d continue building through the draft and picking up key pieces that would really fit with the quality individuals that are here. I think A.I. is a complete warrier and terrific and entertaining talent, and in his own way a quality guy. However, his world both on and off the court seems so uniquely his own that … , well, I just don’t see it.

By Ryder

May 22, 2006 08:29 PM | Link to this

Honest abe, you provide very good reasons about bringing in the AI, the most convincing argument yet. However, I don’t see anyone out there who can come here and play the interior defense needed to assist Iverson. That’s the only way this will be an option. Perhaps Knight knows something we don’t and can get a hidden gem out there.

If Atlanta is serious about obtaining Iverson, then they should make a deal that doesn’t hinder the growth process of this team. Trade Al Harrington, Salim Stoudamire and their first round pick to Philly for Iverson. Also, make sure that Philly is willing to pick up part of his contract, because that will eat up the salary cap if Atlanta has to take the remaining years.

Personally I don’t think they should do it, this team is well on the way to being a perennial playoff contender in the next couple of years (I think next year Washington, Indiana, and Chicago will falter, giving Orlando and Atlanta a chance to compete). This summer will be huge as to where this team goes in the future.

By bdlucas

May 22, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

It’s funny how the A I subject always stirs up a lot of controversy when it comes to Hawk fans, but in todays NBA, can you pass on sure things? Scoring, leadership, endless energy, the willingness and desire to take big shots, the talent to make those shots, great passing, the ability to take over a game, a huge draw at the box office, more televised games on more networks. Like him, love him, hate him, just decide if you can pass on all of this for another “good” player, or worse, another bad gamble.

By doc

May 22, 2006 09:07 PM | Link to this

i agree with sam and honest, with some reservations. those can be easily answered by the coaching staff who has experience with him or a lot of inside info. they are connected with lb through his brother who was at philly along with woody during the year they got to the finals primarily on ai’s guts. there have been no more incidents like “practice” and he has avoided further embarasing situations. he is the one guy who can make the hawks a 46 to 50 game winner and the only proven point guard out there that can run a team once they get to the playoffs, ala sam a.t. cassell who incidentally wasnt in the playofs last year alongside kg.

ai would be able to do what nash did to phoenix and blow them up 25 wins from one season to the next. along with the issue of is he coachable?, the rub is what will he cost besides salary. if it is more than al and salim then i say no, nash didnt cost that much to the suns which made his acquisition that much more significant. if you have to give up too much then i say no, otherwise bring him on. if not go get speedy and either roy or williams and coach them up. beginning to think williams may be serious about his conditioning, like deron williams was last year, who after the college season was over went to training and lost 20 pounds before the nba workous to increase his speed and quickness.

atf, i still dont see your criticism of nash as mvp. who on that team before this year was in a starting lineup with significant minutes, much less came close to being an all star besides marion? i mean if you were a gm and could take your pick of guys you would want in your starting line up i doubt you would give any player much of a look besides marion until you were down to your 7th or 8th spots. diaw, raja or barbosa just wouldnt do it without him around to run the suns style of offense that probably very few points could run as well as him either. the suns may not be in the finals after tonight but what they got from so little manpower this year is astounding. diaw has also lost a little of his luster under the spotlights as a lot of 2 footers and layups just arent going down. eltom brand is a lot different than kwayme and odum.

By bdlucas

May 22, 2006 09:32 PM | Link to this

Wait a minute. Did Opposite Day compare Allen Iverson to Isaiah Rider?!! In what way, and in what alternate universe?

By Kappy

May 23, 2006 12:17 AM | Link to this

Ok, ive sat back and thought about awhile. I initially didnt think that we should bring him in. Then, I thought about it. And while i see all the points you pro-AI guys make, I still think we shouldnt trade for him. We can continue to build in the draft and pick up an experienced big in free agency. AI is a high risk/high reward situation. But if it doesnt work, youve set this franchise back for years. I say No.

—Draft Roy or Williams. —Trade AL for something(draftpick/vet C/PG) —Draft big in 2nd round —and get Big in free agency

By Ron Mexico

May 23, 2006 12:24 AM | Link to this

Trading for AI would definitely make the Hawks a playoff team — our supporting cast is much better defensively (and really at least as good offensively) than what AI had in Philly. But would trading for AI make us a championship contender? I think when you blow up a team and build it from the ground up like Billy is doing you have to look at trying to become a legit championship contender in the future, not just another playoff team. If getting AI puts us at that level some time soon then that’s great. But to me, being a team like Chicago or Washington, who barely make the playoffs every year and don’t have a lot of cap space or high draft picks and have no chance of winning a title with their current roster, is arguably worse than being in Atlanta’s situation, where at least we have plenty of room for improvement both through internal growth and through free agency and the draft. AI would put us in the playoffs, but I don’t think adding him would make us a championship contender, and he would take up too much cap space to be able to add other pieces like the interior defender we need so badly.

By Bob in Sf

May 23, 2006 02:32 AM | Link to this

I remember when the Hawks won the championship after they got Moses Malone and Reggie Theus! They were unstoppable! It was amazing! Wait…they didn’t win a championship by getting ball hogging superstars on the downside of their careers and plugging them into a lineup of good young players? Don’t repeat history! AI is 30 yr. old little guy with a lot of mileage who has had a great career but there is no way he will last much longer playing the way he does. With him the Hawks might get to the playoffs for maybe one or two years, lose in the first round and then be stuck with his monster contract. Philly would love for the Hawks to take him and his money off of their hands while throwing in younger players and draft picks. Then again Billy K. would make that deal. Joe turned out to be a decent pick-up but I still don’t believe he was worth what they gave up pick wise…

By Malone

May 23, 2006 02:49 AM | Link to this

NO A.I.!!

Give BK a couple more years and see how we grow and progress. I think Smith and Childress will be a deadly duo to our opponents sooner, rather than later. Remember, Salim was out for awhile and Zaza had no real backup. We’re going to be fine.

By SaintSparky

May 23, 2006 04:01 AM | Link to this

Are we all talking about the same Hawks here ? There are so many comments here as if the Hawks are just a step away from the playoffs. Let’s be honest… as long as we have that logjam at F we will never make the playoffs ! So we need to move one of them, and it looks like Harrington doesn’t want to resign anyway, so why not use him to get one of the best guards in the NBA ? He isn’t the coveted leader everybody wants, but that’s where we have other players like JJ or Josh Smith. A starting lineup of AI, JJ, Josh Smith, Marvin and let’s say Przybilla would be fun to watch ! But hey, according to some of you we should just sit back and watch our Hawks stay mediocre for another five years !!!

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 05:39 AM | Link to this

Compare Lebron and Nash DOC

Organizational Management, Recent Payoff History, Coaches Know How, Experience & Track Record, Supporting Cast, Record in last 5 years,

Lebron = MVP of the NBA!

Closing thought - Nash is a beneficiary of an outstanding team concept/system. Lebron is the concept/system for Cleveland right now. Give him the ball and let him create everything…

By Samuel

May 23, 2006 06:29 AM | Link to this

All I know is that LeBron is on his way down to the “ole fishing hole” right now. Nash is in the Western Conf Finals.

What a game last night between the Mavs and the Spurs. Ando, you boy Dirk stepped up big time. When he took that one to the rack and got the “And 1”, he had “that look”. Props to the Mavs for killing that Monkey.

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 06:49 AM | Link to this

Sam my Man LJ lead Cleveland to the 2nd. round & to game 7 in his 3rd yr. in the league, 1st. yr. in the payoffs. They use to say the same thing about MJ. Remember when Larry B. was being annointed the so-called greatest B-ball player of all time? Along came MJ. The rest is history…

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 06:59 AM | Link to this

Also SM has been the MVP for Phx during the first 2 rounds!

By doc

May 23, 2006 07:10 AM | Link to this

atf, the little man is still standing. lebron is still growing as a player and next year is going to be his year but to be honest he may have more pieces than you are willing to credit him for than is on the suns. if hughes is well the whole season then it might have been different along with some potential all stars. as far as nash being a system guy he was no slouch in the mavs system and ths suns were in the same category as the hawks when nash arrived out of the playoffs and sub 30 wins looking like they had no where to go. he put 30 wins in their pocket that year with amare and marion the what second best turn around in victories in one year in any franchise history. he then duplicated the feat. the difference with nash is he isnt a one hit wonder in one year nor with one team showing and confirming his value that you continue to ignore or down play.

the hawks get him with these guys and i get season tickets, he is ai without the baggage and more because he doesnt want to score 30 a game unless it is game 7. didnt you and many say he doesnt do it in close games or game sevens. hope you are collecting some data because he is blowing your smarts or opinions with results, big numbers in game sevens and what one or two throwdowns from the outside to win games? keep your opinion, respect it, but dont understand it and doesnt seem as well thought out as most of your remarks, like to negate him supports a different agenda. yes?

By Cody

May 23, 2006 07:10 AM | Link to this

Why don’the Hawks consider a sign and trade with the Bulls, Al Harrington for Ben Gordon and maybe a 2nd round pick. I would also consider trading the first round pick for a “younger” center who offers solid defense, like a Nene and Demvers 1st round pick. This is the year the Hawks have to make solid roster additions, I think they traded next years #1 for Joe Johnson.

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 07:17 AM | Link to this

AJC Article 3. LeBron James, 2003, Cleveland — Three years into his reign, James is the top vote getter on the All-NBA team and an MVP candidate (he finished second to Steve Nash). More importantly, James transformed a forgotten city into must-stop destination on the NBA’s star parade. At 21, he’s being compared legitimately to the game’s greats. And at 6 feet 8, 250 pounds, he has a chance to create a whole new category of player — he’s currently the only member.

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 07:25 AM | Link to this

Steve Kerr Article Shawn Marion played a brilliant game – shooting 5-of-9 from three-point range in scoring a team-high 30 points – and that really threw a wrench into the Clippers’ plans. When Marion hits long-range shots, Phoenix is able to spread the floor like no team in the league, making the Suns practically impossible to defend. That’s when Nash is able to penetrate and either find an open lane for a layup, or – when the defense reacts – dish the ball to an open teammate. This is a system fellas.

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 07:33 AM | Link to this

Wanted: James gang help (It happened just the way this article predicted – no help for LJ in game 7)

By Steve Kerr, Yahoo! Sports May 20, 2006 Not many people outside of Cleveland would have predicted there would actually be a Game 7 between the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Detroit Pistons. Come to think of it, I doubt many fans in Cleveland would have made such a brash prognostication. But the Cavaliers have figured out a formula to beat the Pistons, and they’ll get one more shot at the Eastern Conference champions in Auburn Hills on Sunday afternoon. Cleveland will try to continue its great defensive efforts – particularly on Chauncey Billups and Rasheed Wallace – and keep the game at a slow pace. If LeBron James can get enough help on offense from a couple of teammates, the Cavaliers can pull off the shocker. After all, the last four games have all been close, and at this point in a series, there are no adjustments to be made. There’s no reason Cleveland can’t keep it close, and if that’s the case late in the game, the Cavs do have the best player on the floor. James is good enough to will them to victory. But the key will be an unexpected contribution from someone – a few three-pointers from Damon Jones, perhaps, or a great scoring game by Flip Murray. If LeBron doesn’t get enough help, Detroit can ride the energy of the home crowd, build momentum throughout the game and cruise to victory. There’s so much emotion involved in Game 7s, and the visiting team must withstand the onslaught.

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 07:40 AM | Link to this

I’m not the only one who is/was critical of Nash.

Steve Kerr article Steve Nash – The two-time MVP took a lot of heat for his subpar play earlier in the series, but with a few days rest, he came through with a masterful performance. Nash hit 11 of 16 shots, including four of five threes, and scored 29 points to lead the Suns into the Western Conference finals. Phoenix was in control from the start thanks to a hot start by Nash, who passed the ball beautifully and got everyone involved. Many of his 11 assists led to open three-pointers for the Suns, who made 15 of them on the night.

I rested my case. Got that from Flash…

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this

NBA Today By The Associated Press

Miami at Detroit (8 p.m. EDT). The Pistons and Heat meet in the Eastern Conference finals for the second consecutive season. Detroit rallied from a 3-2 deficit to win the series in seven games last season. STARS

Monday _ Dirk Nowitzki, Mavericks, had a playoff-high 37 points and 15 rebounds as Dallas outlasted San Antonio 119-111 in overtime to win Game 7 and advance to the Western Conference finals.

_ Steve Nash, Suns, had 29 points and 11 assists, leading Phoenix to a 127-107 Game 7 victory over the Clippers and a berth in the Western Conference finals.

STRONG IN DEFEAT Tim Duncan scored a playoff-high 41 points and added 15 rebounds, but San Antonio lost Game 7 of the Western Conference semifinals to Dallas, 119-111 in overtime on Monday night. … Elton Brand had 36 points and nine rebounds, but the Clippers were beaten in Game 7 of the Western Conference semifinals, 127-107 by Phoenix.

SWINGS Steve Nash, 2-for-18 on 3s in the previous five games, went 4-for-5 in Game 7 Monday night as Phoenix defeated the Los Angeles Clippers 127-107 to reach the Western Conference finals. The Suns shot 60 percent overall and made 15-of-27 3-pointers.

By Astro Joe

May 23, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

I can’t see Sam Cassell coming here. Cassell has stated his desire to be a coach. I predict that he will either resign with the Clips or a creative team (like Cleveland, Memphis or Orlando) will offer him a chance to be a playing assistant coach so that he can start the process of learning coaching duties. With Larry Drew as the lead assistant, I’m guessing the Hawks view Drew as the Yoda of PGs (doesn’t he have some kind of PG DVD). So why use a roster slot on a PG mentor when you already have one?

Let’s see if we can get a top 3 pick tonight in the draft lottery!

By The Flash

May 23, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Pete Carril: “if you think pass only after exploring all other options it is not a pass.” A.I. is not right for this group. JJ needs to modify offensive style.

By honest abe

May 23, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

abe kwon: “if one of the top five players in the NBA over the last 10 years becomes available GET HIM!”

By Johnny Bravo

May 23, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

So let me get this right..you don’t want a Hall of Famer and a former MVP who avg 33points and nearly 8 assists per game, but you want Sam Cassell? You really need to stick to beat writing and stop making sports opinions.

By GTGD

May 23, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

I agree, AI is trouble we don’t need. Yes, he’s great, and yes, he’s 31, but he’s also selfish, arrogant, unfriendly, and has the body of a 41-year-old. He’s had more injuries and spats with coaches than any player in nba history. Leave him alone- go get Sam, Jarrett Jack, Andre Miller, or any number of other veteran PGs out there that are “team-first” and distributors, not “me-first” scorers.

By David

May 23, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

Getting Allen Iverson right now would transform the Hawks from doormats of the NBA to World Champions? I think that the Hawks would immediately win the NBA Championship if Allen Iverson was immediately brought into this team. Iverson has led the league in scoring a bunch of times and will continue to do so until he retires. Iverson will continue making All-Star teams perenially until he retires. Allen Iverson will continue winning MVP trophies until he retires. Allen Iverson, unless he brought to the Hawks, will make the city of brotherly love, much better until he retires. Allen Iverson will make the Hall-Of-Fame on the first ballot, shortly after he retires. Acquiring ALLEN IVERSON IS THE BIGGEST NO-BRAINER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME!!! If Allen Iverson wants to play for the Atlanta Hawks, I think the Hawks should throw everything into the deal including the kitchen sink to bring him abroad. Give Allen Iverson the key to the city of Atlanta, and the basketball Gods, including the fans of Atlanta will shortly be treated to their first NBA World Championship!!!

By HB Ando

May 23, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Hey guys! Been busy the last few days, so I thought I’d get caught up today. Does anybody know whether this is a legitimate discussion? SS mentioned that, as far as he knew, Chad Ford may have picked up the AI to Atlanta rumor from our blog a few weeks ago.

OK, let’s say it is legit. I think the decision is as simple as the organization validating what their true goals are. If they truly aspire to compete for championships, you don’t bring AI to Atlanta. He crushes cap space, dominates the ball and impedes the development of young players. On the other hand, if ownership is less concerned with striving for a title, and would be satisfied competing for the playoffs, providing an exciting product and selling tickets, to fans who would come in droves to watch AI, then go ahead and acquire him. It really is as simple of a discussion as that. The Hawks I saw at the end of last season weren’t having much trouble scoring, and Smith and Williams will only get better this next season. Defense was the issue. Iverson can’t rebound or block shots. He is a tremendously quick defender on the perimeter, but he was able to take a lot of chances getting out of position, going for steals, because he had Webber and Dalembert in the lane if his man got by him. Here, we’ve seen what will be waiting for an opposing players’ dribble penetration: lay up or a dunk.

So the question is: What do these Hawks want to be when they grow up? Winners or just fun to watch.

On another issue, people continue to make suggestions about trading Harrington and our pick to get something or other. We cannot sign Al, and thus trade him, until AFTER the draft, starting on July 1st. So these ideas are practically impossible. We could trade the rights to the player we draft, after we re-sign Al (if he’s inclined to participate in a sign and trade, which he may or may not be). It would be too risky to pick a player with the intent of trading him (in other words, picking a player desired by the team you are trading with) and looking to sign and trade Harrington with that pick. What if Harrington, or the other team, backs out after free agent signings begin? Anyway, just wanted to clear that up since so many folks seem to be confused on that issue.

Looking forward to the draft lottery tonight. When are we setting up our draft competition?

By honest abe

May 23, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

“scratches my full head of hair”

hmmmmm……..ok so all i’ve been hearing from someone is how marcus williams isn’t a fit or deserving of the 4th pick because he might be a defensive liability…

talk all you want about AI having dalembert behind him, but please don’t mention chris webber..the guy hasn’t played defense in 5 years…and AI is not a defensive liability….why did so many players get layups and dunks…we didn’t have a big to take up space or block shots yes…but we also had horrible on the ball defense from our point guards which (he who shall not be named) has stated so eloquently on many different occasions…. AI is still one of the better on the ball defenders in the league…slice it however you want…AI and JJ is a better defensive combination than any guard we can draft or sign this year…plus that combination would create more opportunities for our other players than any other guard the hawks could either sign or draft this year..!

like i mentioned before this talk is all moot if we don’t get a big!

By Basketball Princess

May 23, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

Looks like the Princess will have to set up the logistics. How do we want to do it, and I can set up a speadsheet.

Ok! I was wrong about something. Dwight never leaving Orlando. I thinks I bit someones head off (Sam?) saying that he wouldn’t leave because he was happy…..Well I’ll just say this DH2 would put on a Hawks Jersey in a heart beat.Can’t really say now what i heard do to the national attetion SS intoduced us to, so I’ll say this. Lets hope Orlando does what they need to do to prevent that from ever happening.

David Atlanta would never be world champs, as it is the USA Team, which is a combination of Individual NBA Team players that would bring that title. Kobe was the leading scorer in the league this year, and failed to bring LA a championship. So I miss your point on him being the leading scorer “many times” could bring in a championship.

So is Glenn Robinson Done?

By Astro Joe

May 23, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

Steven A. Smith suggests in his most recent column that Joe Johnson may be available this off-season. Unless he is assuming that Belkin is taking over (and plans to trade away JJ for obvious, non-basketball related reasons), then I think dude is pulling crap out of his rear. This is why I do not react to published rumors by columnists, because there is no accountability for them when they make crap up. The ONLY way one would consider trading away a 25-26 year old player, who plays every game, plays within the team concept, averages 20+ points and 8+ assists during sevral months of last season and is also the teams best perimeter defender, is if you are determined to blow-up the entire franchise. So once again, unless Smith’s comments are borne out of some consideration for Belkin, I think that this is a perfect example of why BK refuses to speak to most media members. Because some of them are more interested in making news than reporting news. Asserting that JJ is available is, quite frankly, preposterous.

P.S. This is also the resaon I do not understand why people go off on BK based on some of the nonsense they read. If you were a GM, how much talking would YOU be doing to columnists who either paint you as incompetent or report that you will trade away one of the 10 best 25 and younger players in the league?

By honest abe

May 23, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

world champs….nba, nfl, and major league baseball are the top organizations in respect to their sport, around the world….so when you win the super bowl, world series or an nba championship ….you are “world champions”

By honest abe

May 23, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

stephen a smith = most annoying person on tv

By Astro Joe

May 23, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Sekou, Brad Daugherty made your list before Glenn Robinson? WOW! Big Brad was hurt, but those Cleveland teams were very good, they just couldn’t get over the Bulls. Big Dawg was a fairly pedestrian player in his day. Sure, he socred points, but I’m not sure he was any btter than the very forgettable Jamal Mashburn. Brad made his teammates better, Robinson made his teammates hate him. Daugherty may be among the worse #1 picks mostly because of injury (like Kenyon Martin), but Robinson was bad because he was a one-dimensional player who won nothing when he was the “Big Dog”.

By Samuel

May 23, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

I don’t really know if it is a rumor or not about AI. Probably is but I still say that turning down a top 10 player in the league, if available, is stupid.

I posed a question in one of my post : Who in the NBA would have a better backcourt than AI and JJ? Let’s hear it, you so-called experts.

Ando, you love to talk but often times it gets old my friend. How does AI impeade anybody’s development. Does LeBron, does Kobe, did MJ, did Magic? They all “dominated” the ball. You talk about competing for Championships and we can’t even break 30 wins. Let’s at least crawl first. Who cares about this Lottery. Their all on the same level anyways.

Name me a better all around guard(ballhandling, quickness, scoring, defense, toughness) than AI? Sure I would love to have other point guards if that’s all we can get but given the choice, I’d take AI over any point guard in the league, Nash and Sam included.

You guys talk about these players like you really know them personally. Calling a guy selfish, arrogant, please. Guys this is “show business”. People do what get’s them paid. You think AI would have all these commercials if he was just your average Tom. Doc said it right a couple of posts back. Let’s put your lives and jobs up for public scrutiny and see what happens. Don’t be such cowards by continuing to throw stones at freekin entertainers for God’s sake.

From what I have read AI does a great deal for his community and is “striving” to be a good father and husband. That’s all that counts. All this other “crap” don’t amount to “a hill of beans” as my daddy would say.

By stunna2

May 23, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

The only reason i say we shouldnt bring in AI is because of his salary. It would kill all the cap space we have. If not for that id be all for the trade. I really dont get some people on here. You dont want AI but you want Jarret Jack? I think that says enough.

By David

May 23, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

AI is the best player in the association period!!!! If you don’t believe me, just ask former 76er great Julius Irving who is the best player in the league and he’ll tell you emphatically it is AI. AI is undoubtedly the best all-around player in basketball today. AI hasn’t been getting his just due and props over the past few years—but he is the most electrifying player to come along in our generation in a long time! I don’t know of anybody in the NBA who could beat AI in a one-on-one game of basketball. There is noone who can guard AI straight up. AI can light it up on anyone, regardless of who is guarding him—whether they are 4’7” tall or whether they are 13’9” tall. It doesn’t matter. If the person guarding AI is 13’9” tall, AI would simply climb the up and down the ladder and shoot over this monster and the outcome would still be the same—30 points; 10 assists and 11 rebounds!!! AI is “available immediately” and he is also the silent assassin on the court at all times. I hope that the Hawks can acquire AI before the 76ers withdraw the generous offer that they currently have on the table.

By St. Bernard

May 23, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

I think I finally figured it out. David wants Phillips all to himself,along with the few other folks who prefer their basketball to be entertainment, rather than support a team in winning championships.

Here are the pg’s who immediately pop into my mind that I would rather have than AI: Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Chauncey Billups,Andre Miller,Cassell, Hinrich, Livingston,

By Astro Joe

May 23, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

Samuel, my concern with AI is fairly simple, I’m not convinced that the Hawks will provide him a better supporting cast then what he has had in Philly and that has not lead to much if any success. I’m not sure that I would bring in any $20M player who is on the downside of their career if it doesn’t virtually guarantee this team some first round playoff success. I know Webber is not the same player but even in his current state he is a far superior interior player than any that the Hawks have today. Iguadala is as talented as any of our young wing players. Dalembert is the defensive presence that we dream about as Hawks fans. If that team struggled to enter the playoffs over the past 2 years (and of course missed it altogether this year), why pay $60M over 3 years for marginal team success? No, I don’t want to keep winning 20 games, but I also don’t want to be maxed out on the salary cap and win 38 games either. Personally, I think there are better ways to spend $60M over the next 3 years.

By St. Bernard

May 23, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Bibby,Chris Paul,Tony Parker,Jason Terry, Derron Williams, Jameer Nelson,Brevin Knight, Raymond Felton, Gary Peyton,Smush Parker, Jack, Telfair….MARCUS WILLIAMS.

It’s probably of note that I would take the backup pg of the Bobcats over A.I.

The goal is to build a team…not a circus. And in two years, AI will be gone and we’ll be rebuilding again.

By honest abe

May 23, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

joe i respect your opinions but i think your wrong…webber might have a better offensive game than any big that we had…but he took way too many jumpshots..when your power forwards games consists of 80% jump shots near the free throw line you have a problem, thats not including the fact he doesn’t play a lick of defense…dalambert is an overrated defender..he can block shots…but zaza had some of his biggest games going straight at him…not my idea of a great defensive presence…he picks up way to many silly fouls he is a bad version of dampier…korver can shoot but only in some games…half the time he was building a house….and he cant’ dribble, rebound, pass or defend…iguoadala was the only other good player on that team and they still almost made the playoffs…they had no bench and their coach has only failed everywhere he’s been…

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

Good Basketball Is Back

By BRIAN MAHONEY AP Basketball Writer

Having LeBron James in his first postseason certainly helped. His last game of the season, Cleveland’s Game 7 loss at Detroit on Sunday, received an overnight rating that was nearly 30 percent higher than the comparable game last year.

By The Flash

May 23, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

Sam I Am: MJ, except when the Zen Master had his ear, unquestionably impeded the progress of everyone he played with, young or old. Kobe, even with the Zen Master, does.

So does Alan. He can catch it, have a clear angle for a pass to a big in an excellent position, and not even think about letting it go. He creates so much on his own, and his run outs are so fast, that there really is a shut out of other players.

I doubt JJ would want to play with him. Maybe that’s the reason for SAS’s speculation. If A.I. comes, JJ might demand out. Who knows? Anyway, it’s a far better guess than Astro’s. Astro Man, just when I get to thinking that maybe there really is some there there, you go off into outer space. Now I know what the Astro, is for; your new kickname, “Pluto.” It could be worse, think of the next furtherest planet. Only teasing my man, your analysis in general was TERRIFIC!!!

By Mel

May 23, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

JJ came here to be “the Man”. If Iverson comes JJ will be a complimentary piece all over again. AI dominates the ball and is not a good fit for this team. i thoguht we were rebuilding.

By Astro Joe

May 23, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

Abe, you’re right, C-Webb is almost exclusively a jump-shooter. But he still averaged 10 boards and almost a blocked shot a game despite having a 3-inch vertical jump. I’m still not convinced that AI would have any more success with the Hawks than he had with Philly. And I think the price is just much too high for 35-38 wins and getting the 12th pick in the next few drafts. Flash, better to be Pluto than Goofy (hey, I made a funny).

By honest abe

May 23, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

i’ll give you the ten boards but that still doesn’t offset the fact that he gets unhappy unless he gets a certain amount of touches…watch any of his games last year, and he forced quite a few shots just because AI’s domination of the ball….i have to believe that those two large ego’s must have messed up any kind of chemistry that team had….besides AI is not a pg! out of that starting five he was the only capable ball handler…

as for JJ i know he wanted to leave phoenix to be the “man” however i have to believe his biggest objective is to win ballgames (and make $$) he got his money and now i can only assume he wants to win…you have to understand…he could still produce at the same rate if not higher than this year playing along someone like AI…how many open three’s do you think playing next to someone like that would translate into?

we can continue to develop talent and hope that one day it will propel us into championship contenders…but i have a bad feeling that would only turn us into an eastern version of the grizzlies…and how depressing would that be??? making the playoffs every year knowing you have absolutely no chance to advance??? you need superstars to get to that next level…(Duncan, Parker, Ginobli), (B wallace, R wallace, Billups, Hamilton), (Shaq, Kobe), (AI, JJ, J-smith, M-williams)now i dont’ care who you replace AI with it can be KG, anyone but it needs to be a superstar!!!! we got cap space lets go out and make something happen!!!!!!!!!

By The Flash

May 23, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

Hey, I finally figured it out, the only way this Iverson thing makes any sense is as a poison pill. They sign Iverson and Belkin sues for peace. Not a bad strategy, if you are willing to blow up the team’s upside in order to insure you keep it.

By Samuel

May 23, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

Abe,

Look at what we are debating here guy. One guy says that MJ and Kobe “impeded” progress of some future perenial allstars. I don’t quite recall who you are refering to. Could you enlighten me Flash. Who are these players who would have been better had they not been held back by MJ.

Yea Kobe really impeded Luke Walton, Chris Mihm and don’t even mention Mr. Big Shot “SMUSH” and Kwame. Wow had it not been for Kobe they may have gone all the way.

Bernard, you’re joking right!

By Samuel

May 23, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Ask any player or any coach on any team in the NBA if they would want to have AI on their team. You guys are a joke!

By The Flash

May 23, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

Sam I Am: before the Zen Master, everybody but what’s his name. Read Phil’s book, Hoop Dreams. On the Zards, Hamilton, Stackhouse, Kwame, Dixon, and most everybody else on the team. The guys on the Zards for the most part hated playing with him because they were constrained all the time to look for MJ first and there was hell to pay if they missed.

By Mel

May 23, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

the 5th pick!!!!!!!!!!

By Mel

May 23, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

What are the rules for our Mocks ?

By Melvin

May 23, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

I think it would be safe to draft Marcus Williams at the spot… yep i’m back and ready to talk draft…

By Mel

May 23, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

Toronto-Rudy Gay Chicago- LaMarcus Aldridge Charlotte- Adam Morrison Portland-Tyrus Thomas Atlanta-Brandon Roy

my top 5 for now until the rules are set up and stuff

By A Thinking Fan

May 23, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

Flash Calm down and tell me who else has six rings?

By Astro Joe

May 23, 2006 08:36 PM | Link to this

Geez, Samuel. How many rings does AI have, that every player and coach wants him on their team? How many endorsement deals has he provided for his teammates by helping them win titles? I LOVE AI. He’s the best little man I’ve ever seen play, including Isiah Thomas and one of the 5 toughest. But to say this guy in the 06-07 season is universally desired with his $60M contract? WOW! When you look at his field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assist and turnovers from this past season, there is one overwhelming fact, dude LIVES with the ball. And thus far, the results have only netted one exceptional season for his team. $60M? No, thanks. I’d rather cheer him on from afar.

By Astro Joe

May 23, 2006 08:51 PM | Link to this

Ando, remind me what Levenson said again. Was it that the Belkin divorce has not affected personnel decisions or was it that the massive lost of money being shouldered by one less rich partner had nothing to do with personnel decisions. I don’t remember. Did you see the Tucker article? An excerpt:

Bruce Levenson, in an affidavit filed in a Maryland court, says the teams have lost $20 million since August and will lose another $20 million in the “coming months.” Levenson says the uncertainty created by estranged part-owner Steve Belkin’s lawsuit against the other owners has made it difficult to obtain “adequate” financing or to bring in additional investors to help cover the losses, “subjecting us to extraordinary financial pressures.”

Levenson’s affidavit says the $20 million in losses since August have been funded by five members of the ownership group: Levenson, Ed Peskowitz, Michael Gearon Jr., Rutherford Seydel and Todd Foreman. The affidavit says Levenson, Peskowitz and Gearon will be required to fund the projected upcoming loss of another $20 million.

Under terms of a deal struck between Belkin and the other owners last summer, Belkin has not had to help fund the Hawks’ and Thrashers’ losses since August. The four-page affidavit is in part a response to suggestions in an earlier court filing by Belkin that the other owners are benefiting from a delay in resolving the protracted dispute.

Contacted by the Journal-Constitution, Levenson would not discuss his affidavit. He declined comment when asked how the financial situation described in the affidavit will affect the teams’ operations, and he also was mum when asked how long he and his partners will be willing to sustain the current level of losses.

“I’m not able to talk about it,” he said.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist. Can AI bring in about $70M over 3 years? If so, look for a deal to be made quick, fast and in a hurry!

By doc

May 23, 2006 09:28 PM | Link to this

aj, cant say that any of that information surprises me. my point early on, i mean really way back, was this organization couldnt afford it without belkin and that was the ONLY reason that belkin was invited to the party. they didnt know each other before the hawks with only the washington guys knowing him peripherally hence inviting him to the party. 2 plus 1 means that if one was removed it couldnt add up to 3 to shoulder the financial responsibility. it just doesnt make sense to assume anything else folks, no matter what the spin unless there are other revenues to be extracted which didnt come from the revenue from the gate for hawks games.

i dont have the financial insights of what parking, ticket and other revenue streams would be in dollars but if ai means there is hope for the income stream to change significantly by getting fans in the seats to stay solvent, then ai will be here. SIMPLE stuff folks, dont make it more difficult than it is, same as running your household. also, when you are going under you take reasonable risks.

to carry further,with the loss of al and the drop in the salary of jj it still allows the hawks to grab ai without spending more than last year in salary. remember the advantage of jj that was forgotten or ignored was jj costs only 10 mil next year. i dont know what al cost last year but if it is close to 10 mil then that about covers it. ultimately, i hope the coaches are part of the decision to know if the personalities will fit.

flash, you have been quiet about the spirit’s dc crew beyond the reference to belkin’s predicament with the spirit but havent given as much of the specifics about them though i assume you might have come across them in the dc area. give us the scoop, with specifics not generalities. did you introduce the two?

By St. Bernard

May 23, 2006 09:29 PM | Link to this

MARCUS WILLIAMS

by the way, as far as the team concept goes, I would take any of those guys over AI. I am serious.

By Shawn B

May 23, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

Can someone help me out here? I thought the Lakers owed the Hawks a first round pick as long as it wasn’t in the lottery. Did they lose the pick because the Lakers didn’t make the playoffs last year? And also, I swear, if the Hawks take another forward with their first pick this year, instead of taking the best point guard available, Billy Knight has to be fired immediatly!!!!!

By Astro Joe

May 23, 2006 09:50 PM | Link to this

Okay, Ando several weeks ago suggested a trade with Chicago (that I completely disagreed with). But let me offer up another version. Hawks trade rights to 5th pick, Lue and Al for the rights to 2nd pick, 16th pick and Duhon. It could look like Lue, Al and Roy to Chicago for Aldridge, Mardy Collins and Duhon. They get vets and an NBA-ready, tall SG to pair nicely with Gordon and Hinrich. We get a big man in Aldridge and 2 team-oriented PGs in Collins and Duhon. I have never thought that Al by himself would bring a tremendous amount of talent, but maybe in a package, we could get several needed pieces. Of course, all of this would need to take place after 7/1 when free agency starts. BK runs the risk of being “stuck” with Roy, but that would not be such an awful thing. Thoughts?

By doc

May 23, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

i’ve liked roy quite a while as he caught my eye as the pac season began winding down, only wish the huskies had gone further to see more of him. in about ten days there is a big event to show stuff for all the draftees in orlando. it will be interesting who goes and competes there and then who gets the workouts with the hawks.

By Numba1Fan

May 23, 2006 10:51 PM | Link to this

I have been out of town for a few days and get back to find out there are rumors Allan Iverson could be dealt to the Hawks?????…. Pleae tell me this is a nightmare. Why would any young team with a solid nucleus and a lottery pick want to bring in AI??? This guy is nothing but trouble. Has anyone forgotten the gun charges and the domestic violence charges. How about someone in a car owned by AI arrested for drugs. I swear if this deal is done… it will drmatically affect the chemistry, and development of the existing players. Stick with the original plan by drafting a quality PG or acquiring one via free agency, then draft someone physical to play the center position and give ZaZa some much needed help inside. AI is a cancer that will undoubtedly destroy this teams progress.

By HB Ando

May 23, 2006 11:00 PM | Link to this

Not gonna waiver guys. AI is a terrific individual talent. Leaves it all on the floor every night. I would go so far as to say that he’s the best little man in the history of the NBA. But we won’t win with him. He didn’t win in Philly. Zero championships. And we’d be getting the older version. If you don’t think all the minutes and all the contact has taken its toll on the man, you never played the game. I am not saying don’t bring him here. I said bring him here if your goal is ticket sales and not a championship.

Joe, you bring up packaging that pick with Al. Again, I thought that we can’t do any transaction with Al Harrington until after July 1st, AFTER the draft. We can trade the rights to the player we pick, but can’t make a deal with the pick, and Harrington, until free agency signings get underway in July.

I think this team has rightfully committed to Joe Johnson being the primary scorer. At 25, he’s heading towards his prime, versus an Iverson, who’s passed his and likely to start breaking down, relative to his optimal seasons. This team needs defense in the paint, and decision making at the point. I don’t see how Iverson’s “decision” to shoot every time he has the ball is going to make this a better team.

Dalembert was leading the league in blocked shots when he suffered a severe ankle sprain after the all-star break. Suggesting that his presence in the post wasn’t of benefit to the defensive strategy of the guard play in Philly is just plain ignorant.

We are picking fifth. That means that Thomas and Aldridge are definitely out. Bernie Bickerstaff just got back from scouting Bargnani in Europe and said he’s a small forward right now. Lot’s of talent, but no back to the basket game. We’ve got 2 tremendously talented small forwards in Smith and Williams. So that seems to rule him out as well. If we can’t pick up a big man, that points to a trade down or Marcus Williams or Roy. This is not the optimal scenario for the Hawks. Will be very interesting to see what that genius, Billy Knight, will do.

By HB Ando

May 23, 2006 11:06 PM | Link to this

Samuel, with all due respect, you were convinced that the combination of Larry Brown and a group of individual talents would be a recipe for immediate success in New York. So you’ll excuse me for suggesting that your definitive position that AI, in Atlanta, would be a good thing (remind me again how the Knicks’ season ended up). I believe that you have mentioned in the past that statistics have limited value when it comes to winning. I can think of no greater example of your position than the case of Allen Iverson.

And BTW, how you like my boy Dirk?

By St. Bernard

May 23, 2006 11:11 PM | Link to this

How about going after New Orleans picks? We could pick up Mardy Collins and Patrick O’Bryant if O’Bryant fell a pick or two.

By St. Bernard

May 23, 2006 11:21 PM | Link to this

Here’s my picks for the top five: 1. Toronto - Aldridge 2. Bulls - Tyrus Thomas 3. Bobcats - Bargnani 4. Portland - Morrison 5. Atlanta - Williams

By Samuel

May 23, 2006 11:56 PM | Link to this

Ando, You are right. Me along with a Hall of Fame Coach. So I don’t mind that kind of company.

Yea, I already said you boy Dirk stepped up. I’m glad to see it. Props to he, Avery and the Mavs. Your still wrong on AI. I really don’t expect Atlanta to want a player like AI anyways. It’s fine with me. I’d just as soon watch him on TV anyways.

By Mel

May 24, 2006 12:00 AM | Link to this

St. Bernard, Aldridge is good but they drafted Araujo, Bosh, and Villanueva I dont think they would go with Aldridge unless they plan to trade his rights

By Melvin

May 24, 2006 12:18 AM | Link to this

1.Raptors-Alridge 2.Bulls-Thomas 3.Bobcats-Roy 4.Trailblazers-Bargnani 5.Hawks-M.Williams 6.Timberwolves-Gay 7.Celtics-Splitter 8.Rockets-Morrison 9.Warriors-S.Williams 10.Supersonics-Collins 11.Magic-Brewer 12.Hornets-O’bryant 13.76ers-Carney 14.Jazz-Redick

By Adam

May 24, 2006 01:32 AM | Link to this

If Bargnani is still available then Knight is gonna take him; at least that’s what I keep reading. I also read that he thinks taking Williams might be too much of a reach. Of course, last year conventional wisdom had Paul as being ‘a reach’ at #1 or #2. Actually, just to reflect on those (dark) days one last time, I can’t think of who angered me more in the aftermath - Billy Knight, for bucking to convention; or most of the national media, for agreeing with Williams and then turning on the Hawks when Paul exploded out of the gate. Whatever, water under the bridge.

I bet the Hawks go with a shooting guard. I don’t know why, but I can just imagine the conversations here that will ensue. It will almost be like… last year.

By billy

May 24, 2006 02:46 AM | Link to this

BRANDON ROY

Unless Aldridge or Thomas are there at #5 - and it is possible - then we have to take Roy.

He would pair up perfectly with JJ. They would both average more than 5 assists and about the same in rebounds. Both strong defenders. JJ is the better shooter, Roy the better slasher.

With those two up top and Marvin/JSmith down low, you’d just need a big, shot-blocking center.

PICK: ROY!!

By doc

May 24, 2006 07:14 AM | Link to this

to those saying trade down, it seems like the hawks managemant chose to not add anything this season to assure a lower draft pick. now even though it is five why would they trade down? obviously, they must have seen five or six players that would make them happy to have deferred last season as they made no attempt to upgrade the team even after the definite loss of one of their big men before the season started.

honest, you know monday you flipped like a pancake on the ai thing. are you done on both sides?

By honest abe

May 24, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

slightly burnt…but i thought i made it clear that although at first i thought the hawks had no need for AI, i think the hawks need a bonafide superstar…not only to bring in the fans, and some excitement to the city, but the team needs another person capable of scoring in the 4th….

this hawks ownership is depressing….are the hawks the worst franchise in sports at the moment???

one last thing…all i keep hearing is roy, roy, roy! how many of you guys actually watched this guy play?? i watch my share of college bball but i can’t say i watched a single washington game this past year….are you guys basing your opinions soley on these “draft experts” … if so i’m scccccccccccurred.. heh

By Astro Joe

May 24, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

Doctor, I still think that there are at least $20M other reasons why no deals were done to improve the team last year. Trading for the Hornets 2 selections would actually be more cost effective than keeping the 5th pick. The 2 slotted salaries are only a little bit higher than th