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Cagle won’t block Sunday sales vote

With a vote on Sunday alcohol sales coming up next week, Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle is continuing to signal that he’s not standing in the way of the bill’s passage.

Cagle, the Senate’s president, has been accused of blocking Sunday alcohol sales legislation in the past. He’s only said publicly that he wouldn’t stand in the way of a Senate vote on Senate Bill 16, which allows communities to hold a referendum to vote on Sunday sales of beer, wine and liquor at stores. Alcoholic beverages can already be sold on Sundays in many areas at restaurants and bars.

But when supporters of the bill contact his office, Cagle has been for months responding with a letter that takes a much stronger stance.

In it, Cagle said he personally opposes Sunday sales for religious reasons.

But he adds, “I recognize we live in a democracy where the wishes of the majority must be respected. For this reason, I have not opposed a referendum that will allow voters to choose whether or not to allow Sunday sales.

“While I would vote against such a change at the ballot box, I do not believe the Legislature should deny voters of our state a chance to make this choice for themselves and their community,” he wrote.

That viewpoint puts Cagle, a Republican running for governor in 2010, on the opposite side of the Christian Coalition of Georgia and Gov. Sonny Perdue. The Christian Coalition has already vowed to make it a Republican primary issue next year. And one of Cagle’s opponents, Republican Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine, has already come out against Sunday sales.

The Sunday sales bill is set to be considered by the Senate Regulated Industries Committee next Wednesday.

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By Kiljoy

February 27, 2009 11:04 AM | Link to this

All of the “Puritans” opposed to Sunday alcohol sales undoubtly get drunk as a skunk on Sunday. Apparently, they just don’t want to be able to buy it on Sunday!

By hagood

February 27, 2009 11:07 AM | Link to this

HIP HIP HOORAY!!!

By Carsss

February 27, 2009 11:07 AM | Link to this

Okay good for all of you Christian Coalition people that don’t want to buy alcohol on Sunday. This is a democracy, LET PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE. I don’t even drink and I support voting on the issue. We are about the last state to have this ancient bible belt law. I think Cagle should get credit for not being as ignorant as the others, I might even vote for him.

By exgop

February 27, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this

so funny how conservatives keep blaring their “christian values” until a budget shortfall hits. Then they start using common sense.

By RR

February 27, 2009 11:10 AM | Link to this

Thank you Mr. Cagle for separating your individual church and state feelings, as the Constitution requires, and Sonny cannot seem to fathom.

By Joel

February 27, 2009 11:10 AM | Link to this

For those opposing this change…JESUS DRANK WINE. Drinking is not a sin…being an alcoholic/getting insanely drunk is a sin (see the story of Noah).

Thank God I’m Catholic.

By He Did the Right Thing

February 27, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this

How respectable.

I was a Republican, but have not voted Republican in a while, because of the party’s inability to “be its own” apart from the Christian Coalition (and I am Christian, too).

He couldn’t have used better language, either. He said he’s not for it, but who is he to decide? It’s the people’s decision. Exactly. Why is it so hard for others to think like him?

I have always loved Oxendine and figured I would support him, if the Republican party stopped being so nasty. I am surprised by Oxendine. I had no idea he would speak out against Sunday sales. I am disappointed in him.

Maybe I can vote Republican again, after all. Cagle did a good thing, standing up to them like that. Do you think he won’t get harassed for it? They’re probably already upsetting him.

But he has my vote now, and he didn’t before. Good job!

By Josh M

February 27, 2009 11:12 AM | Link to this

Good for Cagle for taking this stance, but can somebody remind him we don’t live in a democracy with majority rule? For God’s sake, he’s a Republican.

By disappointed

February 27, 2009 11:13 AM | Link to this

Finally, an elected official that realizes that this isn’t a dictatorship but a democracy and that we should be allowed to vote and choose for ourselves. Too bad Sonny thinks he knows what’s best for us and thinks we don’t have that right.

By tfrad

February 27, 2009 11:15 AM | Link to this

As a Christian, I am again stratching my head and wondering, what is the scripture that the coalition uses to oppose Sunday sales of alcohol? And as a Christian, I’m thinking that there a thousand issues, where we are losing the hearts and souls of our youth, that are more important than this issue. In this f’ed up world you’d think our religous leaders would pick better battles.

By PMC

February 27, 2009 11:16 AM | Link to this

The Sabbath is on Saturday anyway.

No one is forcing anyone to buy anything on any given day… the issue is forcing people not to buy something on a given day… that’s Facism.

By LOL

February 27, 2009 11:16 AM | Link to this

I wonder if Jesus turned water into wine because he couldn’t buy it on Sunday.

By bbb

February 27, 2009 11:18 AM | Link to this

Yes. It may go against your values but it goes against our rights as citizens to not even allow us to have a vote on our communities to have Sunday Sales. This whole shenanigan is embarasssing. Please pass the right to vote on Sunday Alcohol Sales. We have a right to say yes or no. And I am counting down the days till Sonny leaves. And I agree, months ago you were all equating it with prositution but if the money is tight then your values go up in smoke…speaking of….marijuana might be next if it gets bad enough ;)

By Nick

February 27, 2009 11:19 AM | Link to this

good news.

By Absurd!

February 27, 2009 11:22 AM | Link to this

Wait, don’t you understand, my interpretation of a book with a highly questionable provenance indicates that I should not drink on a day the Caesarian calendar has as the 7th day of a week. As such I think it justified that all of you have to abstain as well!!!!!

By AAA Dropout

February 27, 2009 11:23 AM | Link to this

The differance between a Catholic and a baptist is, you can talk to a Catholic in the Liquor Store!!

By Sam P

February 27, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this

Separation of church and state. Sounds like we need to fill up Sunny’s inbox is pro alcohol sales.

I love Sunny’s response to Sunday alcohol sales - what’s next legalize prostitution? I didn’t realize prostitution was legal the other 6 days of the week.

By Anthony

February 27, 2009 11:34 AM | Link to this

Anyone want to point out the rampant hypocrisy of the “Christians” that allow us to buy lottery tickets on Sundays but not alcohol. Don’t your religious beliefs tend to fall apart when pick and choose which ones are more convenient?

By dw

February 27, 2009 11:37 AM | Link to this

It’s about time! Thanks Casey for understanding who put you where you are and the system they used to do it.

By Heady

February 27, 2009 11:39 AM | Link to this

Always go fishing with two baptists. If you go with one, he’ll drink all your beer.

By Vick

February 27, 2009 11:40 AM | Link to this

Cagle is cagey. I like that. I am a democrat, a drinker… and I like that… Will I be voting for a Republican named Cagle for Gov. some day? If he keeps thinking like this, YES.

By JD

February 27, 2009 11:45 AM | Link to this

Wow - Cagle REALLY wants to be Governor and has seen the writing on the wall. I applaud him for separating his values from the democratic thing to do, but I can’t help but feel like this is nothing but a political ploy on his part. Funny how leaders start getting more vocal and more moderate once it’s time to think about the next election!

By Numbers Guy

February 27, 2009 11:49 AM | Link to this

Too late. If Cagle had been on the right side to begin with, that would be one thing, but to do a 180 when looking at a run for governor doesn’t cut it with me.

If he was perfectly willing to back the idea that government knows best when he had no pressing motivation to listen to the people, then that would seem to be his true feeling. Either that, or he was in the pocket of a special interest group. Either way, color me unimpressed. Changing your position based on political expediency fails to make it any better.

Georgia can do better than this clown.

By AJ

February 27, 2009 11:54 AM | Link to this

Never thought I’d say this - Casey Cagle is a smart man. Let Oxendine get the Christian votes in the primary and Cagle will get the rest. I’m a democrat, but usually vote in Republican primaries to try to cancel out a fundamentalist’s vote. I will vote for Cagle.

By Really...Really....

February 27, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this

With Cagle’s comments that he opposes it because of Reglious beliefs he should be removed at LT Governor. With that statement he violates the oath of the seperation of ‘Church and State’.

Also, I Have personally seen him at my table drinking on a Sunday. Can’t wait to see him soon!

By Bob Ichter

February 27, 2009 11:57 AM | Link to this

John Oxendine is a self-aggrandizing punk. This nit wit shows up at fires in a car with emergency light flashing….and the emergency is - he wants to get his mug on the news. This imbecile make Sonny Perdue look like a rocket scientist

By dawg78

February 27, 2009 12:05 PM | Link to this

“By Numbers Guy” got it right. He is a snake.

By Scoots

February 27, 2009 12:10 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Casey, for being reasonable.

By decaturflyer

February 27, 2009 12:12 PM | Link to this

Funny thing, my Episcopal Church serves us a little wine every Sunday……

In Georgia we have the stupidest politicians outside of Chicago, IL in the world.

By Vol Alum

February 27, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this

Hmmmph! Don’t get all happy about Casey being for OUR right to vote on this issue. This is the same idiot who was on the same page with Sonny Perdue and John Oxendine before — BEFORE HE WAS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR!!!

Right move for the wrong reasons! Typical selfish, pandering Republican! Do something for the good of the people and not yourselves!

By CA

February 27, 2009 12:23 PM | Link to this

Why do we always waste valuable time on this issue? Not being able to buy alcohol on Sunday does not stop a determined person from drinking. They will just buy enough on Saturday to last them until Monday. Good grief, doesn’t the legislators have more important things to discuss?

And only an idiot would vote for Oxendine as governor.

By williebkind

February 27, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this

To the Coalition of Georgia:

Who changed the sabbath (Saturday) to Sunday? Was it a Roman Emperor? So it seems your faith is based on institution rather than real Christian beliefs. The public wants a voice and how dare you stand in front of them with such hypocrisy as reason!

By a

February 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

When will he support Las Vegas style gambling? You know the state could a lot of money from that. And don’t forget to legalize pot and prostitution. This will really stimulate the economy.

By WH

February 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

Memo to Lt Gov Cagle

We live in a Republic not a Democracy

By williebkind

February 27, 2009 12:31 PM | Link to this

To the Coalition of Georgia:

Who changed the sabbath (Saturday) to Sunday? Was it a Roman Emperor? So it seems your faith is based on institution rather than real Christian beliefs. The public wants a voice and how dare you stand in front of them with such hypocracy

By Al Capone

February 27, 2009 12:31 PM | Link to this

When will he support the legalization of LAS VEGAS style gambling? How about legalizing pot and prostitution. This will really stimulate the economy.

By get a life

February 27, 2009 12:32 PM | Link to this

I dont get drunk on Sundays and I dont support the bill

By GeorgiaDuck

February 27, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this

Oxendine is a true snake in the grass. Look at the mess he has created while insurance commissioner.

By Drunk On Sunday

February 27, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this

while I applaud Cagle’s 180-turnaround into “correct” territory (everyone’s allowed to make the right choice even after opposing it forever), do not be fooled into thinking that this is about “democracy” or “the right of the people to choose.” You’re talking about a guy who would very gladly restrict a WOMAN’S right to choose to be married, or of a gay couple’s right to choose to be married. He would oppose THOSE choices by religous conviction, but would he be in favor of allowing it to come to a vote within the state? No way. It’s not about democracy, it’s about money, and I would wager a week’s pay that Cagle is paying more attention to calls from retailers and lobbyists than he is constituents.

Politicians - you can tell they’re lying because their mouths start moving.

By NoBrainer

February 27, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this

I have determined the annual arguments over Sunday alcohol sales are nothing more than a diversion. Is anyone watching what else our legislature is up to that isn’t getting any coverage?

Perhaps if the law designates that tax revenue from Sunday alcohol sales go to faith-based initiatives, it would pass easily.

By Reality

February 27, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this

Religion is the only entity whereby people can make all kinds of claims based on absolutely no evidence; commit all mannser of evil in the name of this or that faith; trample on the rights of others; parade thier beliefs and dare people question them; bash any group with impunity; toss reason and logic out the window; parrot each other without researching what they believe or how they came to believe it. Southerners, black and white, are hopelessly inflicted with it. Wake up, people. Dare I say you have been indoctrinated, but that is such a negative term.

By Rick

February 27, 2009 12:40 PM | Link to this

Hey if we can vote on this, let’s also vote on our state flag.

By Luren

February 27, 2009 12:42 PM | Link to this

I really wish there was a democrat running for Govenor. At any rate, I sure hope we get the chance to vote on what WE want. It’s not about what the politicians want it should be about what the people want and we want Sunday sales! We are one of three states in the entire country that does not allow liquor sales on Sunday. No wonder GA is in a deficit we have idiots running the state.

By Dolemite

February 27, 2009 12:43 PM | Link to this

why do you always take at least two Baptists fishing with you? If you take only one, he’ll drink all of your beer. Take two and they won’t drink any of it.

By Frank Mann

February 27, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this

Sunday is just another day. If the sale of alcoholic beverages is legal on other days, it should be on Sunday too. Let’s be real: We need freedom from the religious based restrictions imposed by voters who elected Gov. Perdue and the majority members in Georgia’s legislatures.

By Cuz

February 27, 2009 12:50 PM | Link to this

I guess bar and restaurant owners want the bill defeated so they can keep their monopoly. I am a Christian but I do not understand why we ban alcohol sales in stores on Sunday. My Jewish friends celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday. Why not ban alcohol sales on that day also?

Put it in another perspective. How many people statewide drive drunk on Sunday because they ranout on Saturday night. If allowing sales of alcohol in stores on Sunday saved one life, would it be worth it?

By john

February 27, 2009 12:52 PM | Link to this

If the opposition is just religous based then it is wrong for them to deny sales. No one religion can impose itself on a majority. If alcohol sales are prohibited then all sales have to be, including restauraunts and bars. It can be pushed even further saying that alcohol cannot be consumed on sunday. That would include wine served at the catholic mass. And to top it off would the priest be arrested for serving alcohol to minors?

By Randall

February 27, 2009 12:56 PM | Link to this

Be bold GA!!! Just change the law at the state level and be done with it. Why waste money holding referendums or special elections. Get over it and come into the 21st century. So called “christians” should not be able to dictate how people live their lives.

By Zoomie

February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this

Christian Coalition: by all means, make this a Republican primary issue next year. Why stop with the Federal government? Let’s just get all the Republicans out of office at every level! When are you going to wake up to the realization that you can’t legislate morality? I’m with the folks here who are writing off Cagle as a viable gubernatorial candidate. If you’re willing to publicly compromise your principles to pander votes, you never really had principles to begin with.

By Old Monk

February 27, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this

Not only is it a matter of Democracy and allowing the People to decide, it is a matter of jobs and economy too. Sunday sales mean thousands of employees working 8 hours more and earning that much more!! Sunday sales must be allowed and then those business owners who want to follow their Principles can do so and remain closed. Stupid laws that impact busineses and employee earnings have no placer in todays competetive world. Laws restricting legal businesses should be illegal!!

By Carmen

February 27, 2009 1:04 PM | Link to this

Just goes to show how ridiculous the bible thumpers are with their bible belt law making attitude…I can go sit in a bar on Sunday and drink myself silly, then get in my car and drive home sufficiently intoxicated while the bible thumpers are on their way home from church. However, I can’t go to the convenience store and buy beer on Sunday to take home and drink safely in the comfort of my own home. Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it???

By Dela

February 27, 2009 1:08 PM | Link to this

I am not a “Drinker” but let the people vote. It may even raise revenue for Georgia. We are so far behind in Georgia. We need casino’s as well. If the drinkers and gamblers want to help Georgia Let’em !!

By Storm

February 27, 2009 1:15 PM | Link to this

Wow all this outcry for something as silly as sunday booze sales.

Why doesn’t everyone get riled up about the Stimulus OBAMA HAD to pass and we didn’t get a chance to even look at it, neither did Congress. All those people up there voted on it and didn’t even read it.

And we just roll over and allow it to happen. But god forbid we can’t drink on Sundays……..

By bigger fish to fry

February 27, 2009 1:16 PM | Link to this

Why is everyone so worried about having alcohol sold on Sunday’s anyway? Geez, just stock up Saturday night.

Get your minds off of the booze and focus on some of the things the state legislature is about to screw us all on; The GA Power bill and the resistence of the Governor to accept some of the stimulus earmarked to aid the unemployed.

This is a smokescreen and all of you are falling onto the trap. Wake up and focus on the real issues.

By finally

February 27, 2009 1:16 PM | Link to this

Sunday is not the same as it was when that ancient law was written, gone are the picnics and long hours spent listening to sermons. Now it is just another day, people are having to work long hours on Sundays-primarily retail where as 20 years ago stores didn't open til 12 or so, now they open at 9. Anyone who wants to go to the store and get an alcoholic beverage should be allowed to do so at anytime and it probably will cut down on DUI's if people can drink in their own homes on Sunday at will.

By Deke

February 27, 2009 1:16 PM | Link to this

There is no god. There was no Jesus. You people are emotionally invested in a myth. Good for you. Let those of us who choose the path of reason make our own decision.

By The Truth

February 27, 2009 1:17 PM | Link to this

First, the economy is in a mess. Please stop legislating morality. We already have laws on the books regrading alcohol sales. Interestingly, Sonny refuses to stand up to Georgia Power and he support the Georgia Lottery. This is blantant hypocrisy. The botton line is Sonny is on the take and so is Casey. As soon as the lobbyist start throwing money in the 2010 elections we will also get casino gambling in Georgia.

Wake Up Georgia

By Obama Is # 1

February 27, 2009 1:19 PM | Link to this

This ain’t real news - the REAL news is all about Obama and Michelle. What do they think we should do about this? If My President Obama wants to ban drinking on SUnday then I say we should support our Presidnet. Georgia should be ashamed that Obama did not win our state. At least Atlanta folk have it right and support Obama.

By NO FB's

February 27, 2009 1:21 PM | Link to this

I sure wish that the people especially politicians in the south would keep their religous believes to themselves and out of politics. Seperation of church and state people, have some common sense keep your god in church and quit forcing your believes on everyone.

By Red GA Dawg

February 27, 2009 1:21 PM | Link to this

What is wrong with the people voting? Some politicians must feel that their opinion is the only one that counts. I assume that those who consume adult beverages on Sunday know to purchase on Saturday. Truly those who are shocked are visitors to GA. There are many issues to discuss with unemployment at 8.6% in the state, put some of these people to work onn Sunday.

By CK from ATL

February 27, 2009 1:24 PM | Link to this

Carmen, what a great response. This state is so backwards that I am often embrassed to call it home. Off the subject, but why does it seem like our elected Governors have the most “hilibillish” names (Roy Barnes, Sonny Perdue, Zell Miller). OKAY, enough with electing people that have horrible first names.

By James

February 27, 2009 1:24 PM | Link to this

Casey you just won my vote when you run for Govenor.We have to elect more politians that use common sense.

By Lynn Taylor

February 27, 2009 1:30 PM | Link to this

Dear Joel, Think you better read the bible again,Jesus drank wine made of WATER> I oppose the sales of alcohol on Sunday it is not an archaic law, and by the way the reason the world is in such bad shape is because we have turned our nose up at God for so long and it is time we turn back to him and his word the bible.

By Casey's fellow church member

February 27, 2009 1:31 PM | Link to this

Casey needs to stand up for his beliefs. He’s not sticking his nose in this issue because he is looking for votes in the next governor’s race. He should be ashamed.

By Michael

February 27, 2009 1:33 PM | Link to this

Sonny and his Christian right-wing peeps are idiots. Don’t try to interpret my morals! Let me decide what I want and what I don’t want…..

By Carry Nation

February 27, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this

Boy, are there are a lot idiots who post here. First, this country is not a democracy; not one time is that word used in either the D of I or the US Constitution. Second, “separation of church and state” is also nowhere to be found in that document. (Try the writings of Tommy J.) Why is this Sunday sales so important? Just stock up/tank up on Sat. nite like you drunkards usually do? Actually, I couldn’t care less. All religions are just stupid fairy tales, but don’t know which is worse: mean babtists or drunken pedophile catholicks.

By KH

February 27, 2009 1:36 PM | Link to this

I’m glad to see this finally coming to a vote. Give the people the power to choose, it shouldn’t be the government’s job to regulate the sale of alcohol. It’s legal, and should be available to buy any day of the week.

One last note to “RR”…The Constitution does NOT require a separation of Church & State. There’s not one word about it in there. Look it up. The idea came from Thomas Jefferson, who said that it was a good idea. I believe there should be, but it’s not required.

By Bpbb27

February 27, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this

Who cares about alcohol sales on Sunday… The Sabbath is Saturday, if I’m not mistaken!! And I am a Christian! We don’t need that government treating Georgia residents like children. People opinion! Happy Friday!!!

By iconoclast

February 27, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this

WWJD?

He’d buy wine for the Passover seder, aka “The Last Supper”.

…and if the eve of Passover fell on a Sunday the thumpers would deny their lord and savior from worshiping according to his beliefs?

Fanatic hypocrites aren’t stupid, they’re dangerous!

By Kevin

February 27, 2009 1:39 PM | Link to this

We despearately need to develop a strong third political party in this country— one that maintains CONSERVATIVE fiscal principles but unhooks itself from the religious right. Those nutjobs have nearly destroyed the Republican party.

The GOP will NEVER return to power as long as they coddle up to the religious right. You’ll never get people to agree on religion, so, for crying out loud, stop trying.

By JM

February 27, 2009 1:40 PM | Link to this

This state is backwards enough without a moron like Oxendine becoming governor. Yes, he would make that doofus Sonny look like a Rhodes Scholar. And Sonny is an embarrassment to the state, to all governors..even to all veterinarians.

By Kevin

February 27, 2009 1:41 PM | Link to this

Lynn,

Your post did not include a Bible verse and you did not capitalize the words Bible, Him, and His.

You’re clearly not a very good Christian. Please refer back to the talking points pamphlet you got in Sunday School a few weeks back.

By Dumbfounded

February 27, 2009 1:43 PM | Link to this

It is very easy for Casey Cagle to pretend to care about the will of the people on this issue because,lest we forget, Governor Perdue has vowed to veto it. Cagle, going into the 2010 election, can say to the people, “See, I was on your side.”

By Larry

February 27, 2009 1:43 PM | Link to this

Do they really think that we will buy more liquor or beer than we normally do. It amounts to convenience nothing else. I remember growing up in Georgia that use to the only thing open on Sunday was the drug store and maybe the movie theater. Everything else is opened now why not the liquor stores

By LJ

February 27, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this

Is there any opposition to Sunday alcohol sales that is NOT religious in nature? If not, then how can this be an issue that is legislated? I thought the whole premise of the separation of church and state is that legislation can’t be based on religious beliefs. Therefore, if there are no non-religious reasons to ban Sunday alcohol sales, isn’t the legislation itself in violation of separation of church and state?

By Micheal

February 27, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

Ok, I am a native of Atlanta that just moved to Raleigh, NC in August after living in ATL for the past 42 years….NC is a very religious state also, but they sale alcohol on Sundays! I moved out of Georgia for this very reason….no separation of church and state!! Georgia….Get a grip!! You had the freakin Olympics in Atlanta and brought the world only to embarrass us with this very crap! Let God decide who gets into heaven!! If it is so bad, then just pray for everyone and stay the heck out of the government decisions!! I say let the people vote!!

By Harold

February 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Link to this

Letting people pick up their beer and wine if their grocery shopping falls on a Sunday will reduce driving, and that is a very good thing.

By steven

February 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Link to this

Sounds like a political move to me! once he is elected, he will go right back to being 100% against. I am voting for myself in this election! I know I am for sunday sales

By Governor-Elect-Cagle

February 27, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this

Oh my God!!! You sucka’s fall for it every time time!!!!!

One. I protect my butt from the wrath of the Christian Coalition by saying I’m “morally opposed.”

Two. I score points with the Atlanta sinners by allowing a vote.

Three. Even if it passes I know Governor Sonny will veto the bill, he does the dirty work and I still look good all the way around!!!

Four. And this is of the greatest value for me! LMAO, it takes that hideous Georgia Power bill we passed off your small little minds and makes you forget all about it! LMAO, SUCKA’s!!!!!!!

(Btw, how’s that traffic Atlanta? LMAO! SUCKA’s)

By david c

February 27, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this

Yeah!!! We actually may have a chance to vote on this issue. It is about time.

If the government really wants more Tax money. I say start TAXING the CHURCH. I would to see a vote on this as well!

By Rufus

February 27, 2009 1:52 PM | Link to this

If people want to get drunk on Sunday they just buy the alcohol on Saturday. What is the difference? We should be able to buy alcohol on Sundays and it will bring more money to the state.

By brian

February 27, 2009 1:54 PM | Link to this

Funny how out of all the things that are in the paper, this topic always gets the most response. Way to be passionate about something that really matters. It shows how obsessed our state/country/etc is with alcohol. It’s not about increasing revenue. If it were, then we could justify ANYTHING if it brought in money. Please.

By Ben

February 27, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this

If you’re a Republican and support restricting alcohol sales on Sundays, you’re not a real Republican. Republicans believe that the government should stay out of people’s personal business. If I own a grocery store and want to sell beer on Sundays, then using the power of government to stop me from selling beer on Sundays is not promoting freedom and individualism. It is using government to force your beliefs on the populous, which is what Democrats do.

By Lynn

February 27, 2009 1:59 PM | Link to this

Lynn,

I’ve made wine before and I used plenty of water. However, please don’t tell me you think Biblical wine was only made of water. Noah got drunk off of wine in the Bible because it was alcoholic. JESUS DRANK REAL WINE MADE OF REAL ALCOHOL. Educate yourself.

By Bob

February 27, 2009 1:59 PM | Link to this

I recognize we live in a democracy where the wishes of the majority must be respected How sad that an elected offical does not know we live in a REPUBLIC. Mob rule is what democracy is about and our founding fathers were against that.

By Chris

February 27, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this

To say we live in a democracy “where the wishes of the majority must be respected” is ignorant! We live in a republic which was designed for the purpose of not allowing the majority to take rights from the minority. The opposite is true. The rights of the minority must be respected my the majority. That’s why we have a constitution.

By conservative atheist

February 27, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this

The religious nutters in this state are a joke. Their arrogance in continuously imposing their superstitious drivel and dogma on everyone else is utterly unacceptable. I fully espect the right of anyone to believe in what ever they want. But those beliefs need to be factually and rationally challenged.

I don’t buy/drink alcohol, but the freedom to do so (responsibly) 7 days week should not be dictated by a bunch of smug bible and koran thumpers. Inclusing nutters like Pat Robertson, anti-white racists like J Wright or anti semitic and anti-white racists like Calypso Louis Farrakhan. The christian coaltion makes my flesh creep, and I am a die hard Reaganesque conservative on all matters, except religion.

By Joel

February 27, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this

David C,

If you’re truly a supporter of the separation of church and state then you would not bring up such an asinine suggestion like taxing the churches

By Chris

February 27, 2009 2:03 PM | Link to this

I have always admired how the state of Georgia encourages drinking and driving on Sunday’s. I am also concerned how this issue has never really been put to the rank and file of the state; while the law makers are voted in by the people are the law makers ever really impartial with their votes. Do they vote for what is best for the state or what they preceive as is in the best interest… Don’t even get me started on the special interest groups and the bible thumpers…there are other religious groups who don’t share the same beliefs. I think you’d be hard pressed to find a Catholic that would opposes Sunday alcohol sales!

By Grob Hahn

February 27, 2009 2:17 PM | Link to this

ALL of the fools in government who have the nerve to even mention their faith as a function of their office need to be removed. This man has absolutely NO right to subject his sense of morality onto the rest of us. It’s amazing how casually this kind of abuse of position is taken. Grobbbbbbb

By Bill

February 27, 2009 2:19 PM | Link to this

I like Casey but when he says we live in a democracy and must obey what the majority want, I wonder how educated he really. We don’t and never have lived in a democracy and the majority do not rule and should not. That was the way things worked, back in the day of old western movies, the “majority” raided the jail and hung the bad guy.

By Villa Rica DAWG

February 27, 2009 2:24 PM | Link to this

Any one who takes a stance against alcohol for “religious reasons” is showing their ignorance of their own religion and their closed mindedness towards the possibility that they were taught wrong.

Drinking alcohol is not a sin.

Furthermore, why is buying it from a store any different from buying it at a bar in the eyes of these ignorant “holier than thou” crackers?

By the way, I’m white.

By Pierce Randall

February 27, 2009 2:33 PM | Link to this

So is Cagle proposing that he will, in all cases, vote as though a poll has been given about the subject? Will he take no unpopular stance going forward as Lt. Governor, or Governor?

By david c

February 27, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

Joel,

Unfortunately there is no such thing as a separation of church and state in this country.
If these religious groups and churches keep telling the politicians on what to do. I say TAX them!!!!

By Get Reatl

February 27, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this

Nice move by Cagle, but its only because he’s running for Governor. What finally made him change his mind after he’s opposed Sunday sales for years?? Hmm…. Like someone said earlier, right move for the wrong reasons.

By Shane

February 27, 2009 2:39 PM | Link to this

Regardless of where you stand on this issue, the real hypocrisy in my opinion is that allowing Sunday sales in Restaurants and Bars but not in stores is akin to legally promoting “drinking and driving” which is just plain stupid.

By Dawg Fud

February 27, 2009 2:41 PM | Link to this

i was born and raised in Virginia. great state and is well run. VA allows the purchase of beer & wine on sunday but not liquor.

beer & wine are sold in the grocery stores while liquor is controlled by the commonwealth’s department of alcoholic beverage control. NC does the same. they make a bloody fortune off it.

the motto is “control, service, revenue”

Georgians deserve the same kind of benefits from such revenue.

By whatfar

February 27, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this

I didn’t think we were supposed to make laws based on religious preferences. But yet - that is exactly what is being done when people vote against Sunday alcohol. How come few people don’t seem to see the separation of church/state on this?

By WestCobber

February 27, 2009 2:48 PM | Link to this

Well, bravo to Cagle, then. I’m quite frankly sick of other people (coughcough Perdue), who legislate what we can and cannot do with our money because of THEIR religious beliefs.

If you find drinking or buying alcohol on Sunday morally or religiously wrong, then it’s easy - don’t buy it on Sunday. But do not dare to tell me what I can or cannot do, or how I should believe, because it’s what you believe. It’s a strong lesson the leaders of this State and Country need to LEARN.

By Mike

February 27, 2009 2:48 PM | Link to this

Dear Sonny Purdue and Casey Cagle, here’s my proposition: If we as adult citizens aren’t allowed to buy alcohol on Sunday, then why are bars, restaurants, and sports/entertainment complexes allowed to do so? How is it that the new Gwinnett Stadium is allowed to sell beer on Sunday? If the two of you so strongly believe in “the Sabbath” and that “six days is plenty, we need a break” then why not ban ALL businesses from Sunday sales? Is it because you’re receiving huge campaign contributions from these businesses to back your future political aspirations? So, do the two of you STILL believe six days a week is plenty? I dare either one of you to address this.

By Georgia Gal

February 27, 2009 2:48 PM | Link to this

The majority of Georgians are in favor of this, so the politicians that are against it just need to learn to deal with the fact that this will most likely become law. And let me add that what a better place we’d all live in if we were the ones voting on the laws and not the politicians who more often than not are just playing politics.

By It's about time

February 27, 2009 2:49 PM | Link to this

I’m thrilled to hear a politican in our state remember that we have a separation of Church and State, and no matter what you’re own religious beliefs are - you can’t push those on the general public. Thank you Casey Cagle

By Baptist Bible Thumpers Suck

February 27, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

“I am Baptist and will force my beliefs on you because that what GOD wants me to.”

Since when is it okay for you to tell me what I can and can’t do on MY TIME?

Here’s the thing, if I want to get sh!tfaced drunk on Sunday, it’s my right. It’s not your right to tell me I can’t. I am sick and fu^^ing tired of it.

This is why most states laugh their @sses off at Georgia. Get in the 21st century, oh and Gov. Purdue keep your sh!t up and you will be out on your @ss quick like and in a hurry also.

By nelson

February 27, 2009 2:56 PM | Link to this

I think in America - anywhere you live - you should have the freedom to buy alcohol in any liquor store 7 days a week - not just at restaurants! Otherwise, those who want to drink on Sunday can just stock up on Saturday night !!!! This law does not prevent drinking on Sundays! Wake up people.

By charlie_s_atl

February 27, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this

If you don’t want to buy alcohol on Sunday, don’t buy it! What the hell makes you think you should be able to make my decisions for me?

By Drew

February 27, 2009 2:59 PM | Link to this

Sale of alcohol here and there, Sale of alcohol on any day that ends in “Y”, sale it at more places and the Georgia State Legislature eats it up with smiling faces. I could care less but mention good public policy legislation that holds individuals responsible for their immoral behavior of excessive alcohol consumption in our outdoors while operating a boat or hunting with a firearm; said behavior that threatens our children and families state wide and suddenly everyone gets mighty tight lipped.

Has anyone looked at Senate Bill 71??? It looks to make boating and hunting under the influence the same blood alcohol level as driving under the influence. Common sense, no brainer - RIGHT?

For one, I’m not against alcohol sales and don’t wish for a “zero tolerance policy” but to be able to be more drunk while boating or hunting is absurd and extremely reckless. Let alone the risks associated directly with Boating and Hunting while intoxicated, what MUST be remembered is that when an intoxicated hunter leaves the woods, when an intoxicated boater leaves the lake they both become a substantial risk to “Georgia Highway Safety” as they transition into drunk drivers.

The threat and public safety concern in our outdoors is real and consider this sobering thought; when they cross that center line driving home, they no longer are effecting just themselves – ever car they pass may be the ones they take with them. The state’s elected officials seem to be jerking every chain possible to give citizens more opportunity to consume, but will not take up the issue of correcting our B.U.I and H.U.I statutes to be at the same level as our state highway D.U.I standards. Self compliance is usually based on education, and understanding is always preferred to maintain the behavior that conforms to public expectation resulting in a safe activity. Unfortunately, legislation is occasionally required to provide law enforcement the tools needed when non-compliance occurs to keep people and property safe.

Citizens need to take a long, hard look at Senate Bill 71 and implore its passage. I’m not wanning for a “ZERO TOLERANCE” policy for alcohol, but don’t allow excessive alcohol intake by certain individuals ruin it for us all or to be a public safety issue on our lakes, woods and highways. Drink responsibly, support Senate Bill 71, implore our legislature to do the same!

By Jay

February 27, 2009 3:03 PM | Link to this

Why do most of you “thumpers” think folks drink to get drunk? Sure, there are quite a few that do, but NOT EVERYONE! I just want the choice. I still have beer in my refrigerator left over from the Super Bowl, so it’s not like I need to drink it (but then again, it may be “skunky” beer by now). And please, enough with the “stock up on Saturday crap”. I’ll make a deal with the “religious right”…I won’t drink on Sundays if you won’t go to church on Wednesdays…just stay longer on Sunday! Remember, drinking alcohol does not make someone an alcholic any more than standing in a garage makes them a car!

By Jay

February 27, 2009 3:10 PM | Link to this

Some liquor store owners are against this law because they say it will cost them more to be open on Sunday to compete with grocery stores. Funny…Truett Cathy and Chick-fil-a don’t seem to be hurting by being closed on Sunday while McDonald’s, Burger King, etc. are open.

By Jessica

February 27, 2009 3:10 PM | Link to this

So we can go drive to a restaraunt, get drunk and drive home on Sunday but you can’t buy beer or wine on Sunday to be able to drink at home. Makes sense to me.

By Homer J

February 27, 2009 3:19 PM | Link to this

“Here’s to alcohol, the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.”

By Because It Matters

February 27, 2009 3:31 PM | Link to this

I’m glad that Cagle as decided to act in the best interests of his political career. I mean people are so delighted you even have people claiming to be Democrats saying they’ll vote for him!

But the truth is, we should’ve had Sunday sales a very long time ago.

I’m not voting FOR another Republican at the local, state, or national level for a long time. We have an economic crisis, record unemployment, and political posturing. That goes for these Democrats that act like Republicans too, they’re worse because they’re pretending to be something they are not.

Our great state will recover, eventually, but we have to make some changes.

By RJ

February 27, 2009 3:31 PM | Link to this

Cagle won’t block Sunday sales vote

Well, Mr. Cagle. What do we need with you and the legislature if you are going to let the “public” decide?

This is a bunch of crap. The same argument those who wanted the lottery but were too chicken to vote it in.

MR. Cagle, I had intended to support you for Governoe, but, rest assured you have lost my vote, my respect and that od all the voters I can reach.

By GSUEagle

February 27, 2009 3:36 PM | Link to this

Cagle opposes alcohol sales on Sunday and he graduated from Georgia Southern? This guy claims he’s a Georgia Southern Alum? Um no, don’t believe that one. Any real GSU Alum would be buying the hell out of some alcohol on Sunday.

By Marie

February 27, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this

Dear Lynn Taylor, get a life. I’m a Christian. Cradle Catholic and Southern Baptists have to be the most hypocritical sect ever. Restrict Sunday sales to no purchases before noon but no sales at all is crazy. Separate church & state.

By dre

February 27, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

These republicans would say anything to get a vote…He didnt say anything when Gov Perdue veto it the first time…..I am voting for Demoncrate in 2010 the reason why Georgia economy is in bad shape and republicans is not going take some of the stimulas money for program which poor people need money for….The sales on Sunday would boost economy for Georgia.

Vote republicans out the office 2010

By Big Drunk

February 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

Let the voters decide? What a concept! Thanks a lot, you puritanical s%^&heels. Folks like you are the reason there’s a separation of church and state.

By mike

February 27, 2009 4:06 PM | Link to this

Maybe, I’ll consider staying in Atlanta afterall. Been living here ten years, have lived and traveled all over working as a flight attendant. Atlanta needs to catchup, no-alcohol sales on Sunday and bars close at midnight on Sunday when it’s technically morning Monday. How stupid!!!!!
It would make more sense if they closed at midnight on Saturday.

By Herschworld

February 27, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this

I’ll kinda miss the ritual of buying sunday beer…sunday beer also tasted a little better..tear…Side note probably one of the reasons CC never got that college degree is because he drank to much sunday beer….

By Corey

February 27, 2009 4:17 PM | Link to this

Passage Matthew 11:19:

19The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children

Enough said. Next!

By Steve

February 27, 2009 4:18 PM | Link to this

As a Christian and a non-drinker, I am amazed and somewhat appalled at the number of people who openly criticize Cagle for “not standing up for his beliefs.” He already told us he is opposed to Sunday sales, AND he told us why; it is not his place to force the rest of the states to live in accordance with those beliefs. I challenge each and every one of you naysayers to show me where Jesus told his disciples, “thou shalt petition thy earthly government to legislate my Father’s will.” We were given free will for a reason - as a test of our faith and of our willingness to live according to scriptural principles. Theocracies have been shown over and over again to be the primary reason why (a) non-Christians hate us and think we are ignorant rubes and (b) wars have been fought in the name of religion since the begin of time. Are war and intolerance Christian principles? They aren’t in MY church, nor should they be in yours.

By herbK

February 27, 2009 4:25 PM | Link to this

Too funny for me. The stupid morons of georgia applauding the actions of the walking deadbeat trash under the gold dome. Sunday liquor sales seems to be the question, yet members of numerous country clubs (one in buckhead) have been existent for years. Many state officials have been buying liquor on Sundays for years. Please, let me know when the garbage representing us is either voted out of office, or jailed.

By Another GSU Alum

February 27, 2009 4:31 PM | Link to this

By GSUEagle

February 27, 2009 3:36 PM | Link to this

Cagle opposes alcohol sales on Sunday and he graduated from Georgia Southern? This guy claims he’s a Georgia Southern Alum? Um no, don’t believe that one. Any real GSU Alum would be buying the hell out of some alcohol on Sunday.

As another GSU Alum I agree with GUSEagle. How can you graduate from Southern and oppose anything that has to do with alcohol.

GIVE ME SUNDAY SALES!!!!

By tolerant

February 27, 2009 4:38 PM | Link to this

He is against drinking but will not stand in the way of the people voting for it or not. I know he is against the people voting on thier pay raises and benefits but by his own logic, maybe the legislators will not stand in the way of the people getting to vote on that issue. Oh never mind, they only cherry pick what they will allow the voters to vote on if they think it might help them win an election. I sure hope someone runs against him for governor or this 32 year republican (conservative) will take my his vote somewhere else or will write in someone’s name. Good luck jelly fish spine.

By tolerant

February 27, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this

I love the way all of these religious people bad mouth those who take a stand. They quote their on pieces of the Bible and leave out what they don’t like. Jesus said we are to be the salt of the earth and the light to stand up for what is Biblical. That is why so many people will never come to Christ, so many religious people claiming to be a Christian when in fact they are only religious. Either be hot or cold but you luke warm so called Christians, when the time comes He will vomit you up because you make Him sick. Stand up for what you believe!! You look like, act like and talk like the world. Read your Bible and maybe you will understand what I’m saying!

By Luren

February 27, 2009 4:54 PM | Link to this

You darn skippy! Let us vote and we’ll YES for Sunday sales. We behind as state as it is….only one of three states in the entire country that does not allow Sunday sales.

By Todd

March 2, 2009 1:15 PM | Link to this

I had a friend from Australia see all of this and couldn’t believe it. She said if they tried to block sales of alcohol on Sunday’s in Australia there would be a full scale riot. We should all be outraged at the religious right trying to push their outdated beliefs on us. This is completely embarrassing!

By Numbnuts666

March 2, 2009 1:18 PM | Link to this

The Christian Coalition doesn’t want people to buy beer on sundays because they’re too busy sucking dicks

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