Capitol Updates

By Van

March 28, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Amnesty, for people that flaunt our laws and have no repect for this country - No way Jose.

I say treat them the same way Mexico treats the illegal aliens on it southern border.

By tom housley

March 28, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

what part of “Illegal” do they not understand…they have more benefits than our “American” elderly.. when are we going to stop giving “our” country away?

By Nikole

March 28, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Tom- I hate to break it to you, but even if we got rid of them, our elderly STILL wouldn’t not be given the benefits they deserve.

By Jennifer Ourada

March 28, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

I am irritated by these illegal aliens demanding all kinds of rights. Hello? You’re illegal - get out of my country. I spent thousands filing my INS forms, and eventually pounding the INS in Atlanta into finding my case file to enable me to become a naturalized US citizen. I am originally from Australia, and it’s been a long road. Don’t rewards bad behavior. Deport, deport, deport I say ….

By RWH

March 28, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

America bring to the light the changing times. None of us are happy or impressed by what we see or what is taking place right under our nose; thus, our state and federal officials knows about it; what has taken place weaken our foundations…we are already weak due to part of 9/11. The terrorist who attacked America got no amnesty; they came here on fake I.Ds. Illegal entering and did what they did! You hold accountable the immigration laws high over what we see is taking place. How do you decide who get amenesty..those already illegal immigrants who are here; think again, they are coming in the middle of the night and you don’t know when they actually got here! Those who recently became citizens of the these United States of America…did what they were suppose to do; following the Immigrations laws. Their wait was well worth it. We should not be afraid to stand up and support our laws regardless if they will hurt. We must stop showing our weakness and continue to be strong in our laws that govern the land we live in. People who are standing on the outside looking in is not illegal immigrants; it is the legal-born-citizens of America who are seeing the changing times. Jobs, wages, all have came under the sure eyes of America. The monies earmark from taxes paid by america labor workers returning back into the cities and communities has put a dent in the economy. That same money being paid to illegal immigrants goes back to their families in the countries from whence they came. No, amensty has to take a back-seat; the immigrantions bill must show and prove itself bold and send a strong message to all who violate it! They all must earn the rights for citizenship to live here in these United States of America.

By Amanda

March 28, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

What happened to the U.S being called the melting pot??? Those of you that want to come down on illegals for not REPECTing our laws- go back to school and learn to spell respect.

Most of these Illegals come here and take the jobs that lazy Americans do not want. They provide services that lazy Americans feel that they are above doing. So before you tell them to go back to where they come from- think about this- What would you do if you lived in a poor country and your family (wife and children) were starving? Would you sit around and do nothing or would you cross that border and find a job - work and make a better life for yourself and your loved ones????? I think that the answer is obvious.

By run em out

March 28, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

Tired of illegals? I know I am…take a stand http://www.thedustininmansociety.org/

By Eric

March 28, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Which part of illegal don’t people understand! Amnesty is just a reward for criminal acts…..do the inmates have the keys to the asylum? Between the employers looking for cheap labor and the politicians trying to cater to the Hispanic community, America is going right down the tubes. It costs Georgia $92M/year in medical costs to illegals, and yet some want us to legalize those that are here. That is pure bull. The illegals are a disease that has infested our country, a disease that must be eradicated before it destroys us. They deserve NOTHING, and that includes their relatives and children. No schools, no medical care, no services, period! They are like roaches, running all over the place, but at least we have sprays to get rid of the roaches.

By jp

March 28, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

When you said illegals immigrants i’m pretty sure ya are refering to mexicans right? Remember that not only mexicans are illegal but people from other continents too like chinese,hindu,canadians,etc ..And if they came to this country illegal they should go back to there country and apply for a visa period you came illegal that just a crime…

By Jennifer Ourada

March 28, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

Amanda, chill out. I just want them to be legal, and not jump the queue ahead of me. American can’t take on all these so called “poor country” people. Their gov. needs to pull it together. It’s NOT our problem.

By Amanda

March 28, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

I oppose Illegals receiving Medical benefits such as Medicaid, food stamps etc. but do not oppose granting them permission to work and pay taxes for the work that they do. No matter what laws are passed- Illegals are going to be here and the companies that hire these Illegals will find ways to continue to use them so why not give them the opportunity to work and do the jobs that we dont want.

By Syed

March 28, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

I am a foreing worker here, from Bangladesh. I am neither spanish, nor illegal. Everytime I see a blag about Immigrants [legal/illegal] , I see blogs full of grudges and emotions and hatred. First, to those who are focusing on the term “Illegal” , illegals have rights too. We have convicted criminals in our society, they have rights too, may not have all the rights , but they do some. Now, Here are the facts we agree- illegals are problem, they are illegal, they shouldn’t be allowed blanket amnesty. But when we approach the solution, we should consider a smart and thoughtfull solution, not a solution that pander bigotry and hatred.People who think illegals are the biggest problem, please look at GM and Ford, illegals have nothing to do with that, you do. Being leftist, I do agree with Bill ORiely and Bush on this issue. It’s not financially possible to deport all , So, we should give them some ‘Legal Status’ [not amnesty or green card] so that we can document them, tax them. And use that money to seal the border. Then, based on their records, like tax, criminal and so forth, there might be a considerations for green card. This way, they will stay clean, pay taxes and be documeneted and also they will be more comfortable in spending money here. It’s a win win situation. Here is an Informations for all, Most illegals, they don’t want citizenship, they just wanna stay here legally.

By Chuck

March 28, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Remember the good old days when immigrants came to this country legally with the purpose of becoming American citizens and swearing allegiance to this country. Why is it wrong to tell those who came here illegally that they need to go back home and start from the beginning.

Unless you’re a Native American, everyone of us came from immigrants, most of whom came to this country legally.

Why is it wrong to expect that from people today?

By Jason Arruda

March 28, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

Can americans go back a bit and realize that this country is/was made by immigrants ? and that this ignorant and arrogant way that some of us treat NOT just immigrants by people ,is making americans be Rated by the world ? IF the immigrants leave , this country will SHUT DOWN,and WE ALL know that !

By Samantha

March 28, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

S** S**, Brown and Slick Sucks America Dry, Like a Tick

By Lee

March 28, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

My wife is currently going through the process of naturalization and she would agree with me in saying that amnesty is a bad idea. We need to build a wall at both borders. That way we could allow more people to come in and out more freely because we could document everyone who goes through the controlled gates.

Until we have the technology to stop people from sneaking over the border in the cover of darkness, this is our only option for keeping people who shouldn’t be here out.

By J&J Ranch

March 28, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

If we are going to give illegal immigrants amnesty…

Why don’t we do something nice for the American serving time in prison for non-violent and or non-victim crimes? Why don’t we go ahead and give ex-felons their US citizen rights back? Why don’t we stop convicting Americans for misdemeanors?

What is wrong with this picture?

Oh yea, why don’t we let the American citizens be tax-exempt for the next ten years?

There is more, but I think yall got the point.

By Amanda

March 28, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

Jennifer - it is funny that you AN IMMIGRANT feels so strongly about these illegals when who is to say whether or not YOU CAME HERE LEGALLY and were legal the entire time that you were here before finding someone to marry you or took whatever steps you took to get your papers. Not once in all the time before you got your citizenship were you not actually illegal? Being an immigrant yourself- you are the last person that should be saying that WE can not afford having them here. But I bet you probably have illegal relatives here or relatives here that have overstayed their Visa’s and you think that it is okay because they are family. All of you are Hypocrites and i am leaving this blog- so write what you wish.

By you should know this

March 28, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

You should know that in MEXICO the mexican goverment dont have any mercy with any person that is not a mexican citizen or mexican resident,they do daily raids in airports,bus stations and many public places hunting for any people that does not look mexican,thouzands of guatemalans,panamenians,costarricans,colombians,and many people looking to live in Mexico or reach the USA are put in inmigrations jails for months and deported ,included cubans who arrive by boat and ask for political assylum the assylum is denied 99 % of the time and they are deported to CUBA,THEY DENIED ASSYLUM EVEN TO POLITICAL REFUGEES TO KEEP CASTRO HAPPY THEY SEND THEM BACK TO CUBA TO SUFFER A LONG CUBAN JAIL,and they also abuse woman who are detained in inmigration jails,so WHY WE HAVE TO BE NICE TO THEM,THEY DONT DESERVE TO BE HERE,BLAME YOUR GOVERMENT NOT THE USA,EVEN THE PRESIDENT OF MEXICO INSULT OUR BLACK PEOPLE,SAYING THAT THEY ONLY DO JOBS THAT BLACKS DONT WANT TO DO,AND ALSO INSULT THEIR CITIZENS TOO ,HE LATER APOLOGIZE FOR THAT COMMENT.THEY WANT ALL NOW TO MOVE TO GEORGIA BECAUSE CALIFORNIA,MEXIFORNIA IS TOO EXPENSIVE TOO LIVE,AND IF WE CANT NOT STOP THEM ATLANTA SOON BE L.A. OF THE EAST,AND THIS LOW APPLY TO ALL CITIZENS NO MEXICAN ONLY,BE DONT WANT MORE ILLEGALS ABUSING OUR SISTEM ,STOP THEM ENOUGH IS ENOUGHT,LONG LIVE AMERICA,LONG LIVE BUSH.!!ENOUGHT IS ENOUGHT NO MORE TEARS,LONG LIVE DONNA SUMMERS.

By Amanda

March 28, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

THANK YOU SYED- you sound like an intelligent man. Wish more people thought like you.

By Syed

March 28, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Amanda I had a Typo , I had thought you would ask me to go back to school. LOL. Nice blogs. Thanks for standing up against Bigorty.

By Eric

March 28, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

But the big difference in previous generations of immigrants is that when they came here, they did it legally, and then did such things as learn English (my grandfather worked all day and then went to school at night) and became part of our society. They didn’t demand that government did things in their languagem nor did they expect government aid $$$$$. The current generation of immigrants, mostly illegal, want to take the easy way out and come just for the $$$$$$. They often move into a single family residence, except there are many unrelated individuals there, destroying working class neighborhoods. Our schools are stuck with the bill to educate their kids and our hospitals have to give them care. The deserve NOTHING except a ride back across the border. If the government creates any guest work program, the illegals should have to first return to their home country and then apply. To give them amnesty is a slap in the face to all immigrants who worked hard to legally get here

By Sandra

March 28, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

I am a senior in high school and feel that I may know and understand more than any of you. This is for all those who feel that immigrant are criminals and should be deported. But first I would like to remind Jennifer—-YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT. This bill will affect all immigrants, whether they are Chinese, African, or AUSTRALIAN. I would like to remind all of you that everyone is an immigrant. No of you are a truly a citizen in this country—this is not our country. I we actually learned anything in our schools you will remember. You all came as IMMIGRANTS, whithout any paperwork for what—-FREEDOM. This country is NOT ours. I we say that we should deport all immigrants and that children of immigrants are not citizens—then why haven’t you all been deported. This country is the Native Americans and no one elses, they are true CITIZENS. Also, remember who are the one’s that made the beds you sleep in, the chairs you sit in, who makes your food and washes the dishes at restaurants, who works on the roads, who put their lives on the line to build the buildings we see, and remember who picks the vegetables and fruits we eat——IMMIGRANTS.

By karen

March 28, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

I’m fed up to my nose with this stuff!!! I’ve talked enough..so I’ve decided to take action and so can you if you’re FED UP.

First go to any search engine.. google,etc and type in Illegal Immigrants. You will find a world of info,studies and organations that you can join(all free).

Second if you are a registered voter go to the State Poll Locator(of Ga.) and type in your personal info to find out who your congressman and representives are. Email these people tell them how you want them to vote on this amnesty issue.

run em out… THANK YOU for the info!!! God Bless that family, what a tragedy!!!

And to everyone else who doesn’t believe this is a problem I say Ignorance is Bliss,Isn’t IT??? I’m not living in fear but I am concerned about another 9-11.(An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure)

By viktor

March 28, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

No surprise here. Liberals want to give terrorists and enemy combatants Bill of Rights protection, why not give ILLEGAL immigrants the same? Hell, why don’t we just tear down our borders and invite everyone in and give them all free education and healthcare?

By dw

March 28, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

In the late 1990’s in Doraville the teenage son of illegals killed his sister’s 1 year old interracial daughter because she wasn’t fully hispanic , if our laws had been enforced may be that poor child would be alive and he still wouldn’t able to murder innocent American kids after serving a few years in jail.

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

Some of y’all are missing the whole point. Immigrants and Illegal Aliens are 2 seperate things. Immigrants are fine, it’s the ILLEGAL ALIENS that are the problem. And yes, we are aware that there are ILLEGAL ALIENS from other countries other than Mexico, just so happens there are hundreds of thousands more from Mexico. I’m pretty sure those of us against ILLEGAL ALIENS are against ILLEGAL ALIENS of any country and they should all be deported and denied any American rights…period. Stop lumping IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL ALIENS together. And I’m tired of hearing how hard it is for them to come legally, boo hoo. It can be done. Things worth having are worth working for. Stop giving us the same song and dance, it’s too hard for them to come legally. And our country won’t crumble without the ILLEGALS here, honestly, it won’t. They want you to think that, but we’ll survive. As for those of you with the argument of higher fruit prices, well lol over that and if it does come to that, I’m willing to pay an extra nickel for my legally picked tomato! And one more thing, I’m tired of the argument that only ILLEGALS will do the work that lazy Americans won’t do. Not true, but only ILLEGALS will let themselves be taken advantage of by doing a sh** job for no pay. No American will do that, sorry, we have standards we live up to.

By Eric

March 28, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

As a slight diversion, recent studies of ancient populations have indicated that even the Native Americans were immigrants. They crossed over the land bridge across what is now called the Bering Straits.

Sandra, if someone cane to this country withough going through the proper channels, then they are ILLEGAL immigrants, period!

In the 1800’s, the U.S. was a new and growing country and could readily absorb maves of new immigrants. That is no longer the case. We can not be the dumping ground for people who can’t make it in their own countries, who use up American taxpayer resources and make little attempt to become part of our society.

There was a good tee shirt that said “Welcome to America, now learn English”. If you don;t want to even bother learning our language, you are not welcome!!!!

By J.H. HUDSON

March 28, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

OUR CONGRESSMEN AND PRESIDENT NEED TO SEND ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BACK TO THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM AND MAKE THEM APPLY THE RIGHT WAY TO ENTER AMERICA. I ON A PERSONAL LEVEL-I CAN NOT STAND MOST MEXICANS DUE TO UNDER CUTTING OUR CONSTRUCTION PRICES.I HAVE LOST MY CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS DUE TO ILLEGAL MEXICANS.I DONT FEEL THEY SHOULD GET AMNESTIE”THEY ARE ILLEGALLY HERE. ALSO FEEL THE I.N.S. SHOULD RAID THESE ILLEGAL PROTEST RALLIES-IT IS THE PERFECT TIME TO ARREST AND DEPORT THEM. OUR BLACK AND WHITE WORKERS WANT OUR JOBS-THAT THE ILLEGAL MEXICANS HAVE TAKEN. AMERICANS HAD THESE JOBS BEFORE MEXICANS.

WE WILL SURVIVE WITHOUT THE MEXICAN LABOR. BLACK AND WHITES BUILT “OUR COUNTRY”…….

By Nikole

March 28, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

GUESS WHAT? None of this matters. Even if you send all illegals back (which is not even feasible) our country will still have problems. Sending them back is a simple solution to a complex problem. Spend your time on issues that matter, such as healthcare, education, poverty, etc.

By young lady

March 28, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE STITTING HERE CRYING PLEASE STOP. You have all benefited from these so called “illegals”. They dont want to stay here and live forever they just want to work. Can you really blame someone for trying to give there families a better life. Yes it I do agree the US should not have to make it easier for them becasue their countires are at faut too…But you cant call them criminals when they are only working for a better life. PEOPLE PLEASE WITHOUT THEM WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE ECONOMY WE HAVE NOW. It is not them that are living off welfar. It is these lazy bums that have social securities and decide that they dont want to work. PEOPLE HOW MAY HISPANIC HOMLESS HAVE YOU SEEN? and JENNIFER Q. you have made a very good point yeah you filed at the INS and got what you wanted but how long did it take you? not just that share with me how much money you spent on doing so? Lets be realistic these people do not have that type of money and even if they do file there countries are not entitled to get green cards. PEOPLE BE REALISTICS you are asking for these people to pay money that they do not have which is why they are here in the first place.

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

JH Hudson, Amen to that. I’m sorry about the loss of your construction business. Unfortunately it’s a problem that is all too common these days, thanks to the ILLEGALS and the lowlifes that hire them. I wish there was a way to know which companies are hiring ILLEGALS and we could boycott them. I know I wouldn’t spend my American dollar with a company hiring ILLEGAL ALIENS.

By Chuck

March 28, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

This is not brain surgery. This is simple. There are two types of immigrants: legal and illegal. Legal immigrants pursue a course of action which can ultimately lead to American citizenship. Once they have accomplished that course of action, they are entitled to all the protections of a U.S. citizen.

Those immigrants who ahave entered this country illegally are not nor should they be afforded the same rights or protections as American citizens, including those immigrants who chose the leagal course of action.

Why is this so difficult to comprehend? If you are not from Native Amnerican stock, you came from people who “migrated” to this country from another country. The vast majority of those “emigres” did so legally, whether they came, for example, from Mexico, Canada, Nigeria, Italy, Ireland, Australia, Russia or Vietnam.

By Fed Up

March 28, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

Here is one thing that we can all do to help stem the tide of illegal immigrants. Do you use a cleaning service for your home? Do you ever use a yard service either regularly or to help out at certain times of year? Getting any work done on the house soon? Ask whomever you intend to hire if they are certain that all employees working for them are legally authorized to work in this country. If they evade your question or sound insulted, don’t hire them. Tell them that you only work with companies who are willing to prove that all employees working for them are legal and who are comfortable being asked about their workforce.

This will be a bit of a pain and I’m honestly not quite sure if it’s workable b/c the illegal problem has gotten so out of hand. However, if everyone does it, illegals won’t have many jobs.

By ml

March 28, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

sandra: um, no. this bill will not affect IMMIGRANTS. you seem to misunderstand or plain just can’t tell the difference between ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT and IMMIGRANT. i even put it in caps so you could see the difference.

By ScottM

March 28, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

I was told this by a mexican national I know as a friend. He told me that he came to the US to live with 4 other relatives that were already here. They were brother and uncles. They all live in one apartment and split the rent between 7 people.

The money that they make is sent home to mexico to a trusted relative and it is used to buy land and houses. After 5-7 years of living meagerly in the US they can go home and retire. At that time they will be considered very wealthy from Mexico population.

The US dollars being sent out of our country are worth much more in Mexico.

Charging a extra 5% surcharge on money transfers will not solve anything.

We are helping to create a affluent portion of the mexican population.

By Jennifer Ourada

March 28, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Amanda, you blonde-haired, liberal moonbat. (Sorry, but I can’t help it - you are.) If you read my whole post, you’d see that I’d filed all my forms LEGALLY and paid all the FEES that illegals don’t file or pay, but still want all the benefits. Clearly, I came here legally on a visa. I then got married — legally. Are you getting it now? Read slowly, stop assuming. All my relative are in Australia. They are also legally there, in case you want to make any more assumed, illogical commentary. By the way, I’ve been paying taxes even from Day 1 and am a contributing member to society. I’m even my neighborhood president. So stick that were the sun don’t shine, honey.

By Eric

March 28, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

On the topic of construction workers, a simple approach would be to film all vehicles picking up day workers and find out who they belong to. Then you know who is hiring the illegals. Though I have doubts that the government would really care who they are, perhaps making their names public might put pressure on them.

But since 12M illegals is a pretty good size invasion of our country, lets use the military to get rid of them.

And for those who use phony or false Social Security numbers when they work, charge them with felony identity theft and lock teir butts up. If we make it nasty enough for illegals and too difficult for employers to hire them, they will eventually stop coming here.

By M.M.

March 28, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

BEFORE THERE WAS AMNESTY EVERY 10 YEARS, I THINK IT’S TIME NOW. STOP HATE wwww.justiceforimmigrants.com

By Nikole

March 28, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

How about holding your government accountable for a trillion dollar war? That seems to be much more pressing than this?

By Young Lady

March 28, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

YOU GUYS MUST HAVE PAID ENOUGHT ATTENTION 9/11 WAS NOT CAUSED BY HISPANICS AND HERE IS ANOTHER THING THEY ALL CAME IN WITH VISAS GET THE PICTURE. THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU LET INTO YOUR COUNTRY WERE HERE LEGALLY.

By Nikole

March 28, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Or maybe you could unite on making sure your schools are adequately educating your chilren? That would be much more helpful in the long run. Getting rid of illegals is costly and won’t make our society void of any of its current problems.

By Oh really!

March 28, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

In reference to immigrants taking jobs away from Americans, perhaps, instead of trying to do the impossible (i.e. sending them back), the question should be asked as to how they got here so easily and how they were able to instantly get jobs? Not enough is being said about the companies who pay these workers at low wages. Now there is talk about a federal “guest worker program”. Bush says that this will allow the workers to come and do jobs that Americans will not do. Perhaps, just perhaps, Americans will not do these jobs because the companies elect not to pay them a reasonable wage. Come on people, no problem can be solved if you do not see the truth of the matter. Otherwise, you find a solution to what amounts to a fallacy.

By Greg

March 28, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

If deporting illegals is going to create a labor shortage, how about this idea: we deport the illegals and allow one person who is waiting to enter this country through a legal worker program take that persons place. This way we punish the criminals and reward those who are trying to do the right thing. To do otherwise only encourages more to enter our country illegally. When they come in through a legal program, at least we get to do background checks and know who they are.

By Eric

March 28, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

If you think that there has been little effect on our communities caused by illegals, just look at DeKalb county and the I-85/Peachtree Industrial corridor into Gwinnett county, where English is a foreign language, Mexical gangs are rampant, and grime is out of control.

By Jerry

March 28, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

NO NO NO NO NO NOT EVER!!!

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Flaunt our laws and have no repect for this country, most of these people will do jobs that you probably couldn’t accomplish and have more respect for this country than most americans do.

By ml

March 28, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

ScottM: you are absolutely right. i can’t believe no one has connected those dots yet.

i recently read an article…where, i don’t remember - maybe CNN. it was about how the mexican real estate market is increasingly on the rise, particularly for middle class citizens. did you read that? middle class. up until very recently, there was almost no middle class in mexico, thus the mass influx of poor people across the border. you can buy a very nice home in mexico right now for what a crap house here costs. i’m talking $120K for a huge house in mexico.

MOST of the illegal immigrants are not here to stay, but they’re happy to abuse and use us so that they can return to paradise back home.

is that what you nay-sayers support?

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Miss Young Lady, 9/11 was a seperate tragedy. We are talking about ILLEGAL ALIENS here. And truth of the matter is, our borders aren’t safe. Maybe the people responsible for 9/11 were here legally, dosn’t change this argument one ioda. Our borders aren’t safe and we need to crack down on this invasion of ILLEGALS.

By beez

March 28, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

Everyone talks about the costs to the state that illegals are responsible for, but no one talks about the cheap labor and resulting cost savings that they provide.

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Oh and Nikole, as for your comment about the trillion dollar war, we have our own trillion dollar war going on right here on American soil, it’s called the invasion of ILLEGAL ALIENS. Stop trying to change the subject. If your against the war in Iraq, go post on another blog that deals with that.

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

By beez

March 28, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

Everyone talks about the costs to the state that illegals are responsible for, but no one talks about the cheap labor and resulting cost savings that they provide.

So saving money makes the invasion of ILLEGALS right? I know I’m willing to pay more money for my things if we sent the ILLEGALS back to their home country. And quite frankly, that’s a lame argument.

By ml

March 28, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Nikole:

been into a public school lately? more and more teachers having to address the class in 2 separate languages. how much learning do you think gets done when there’s only so much time in a class, in a day of school….and teachers are having to spend extra time with little illegal immigrant kids?

By Donna

March 28, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

I have been following this debate for awhile now and it is making me sick (literally). I’m a law abiding citizen and I don’t like criminals. Any criminal whom breaks the law needs to be punished. We don’t give amnesty to murders, rapist, child molesters, DUI violators, red light violators, etc. Coming to America illegally is a crime and the criminals need to be punished. Also, I am not an immigrant (my people have been in America for 341 years), I was born here and so were my parents, grandparents, great grandparents, great-great grandparents, great-great-great grandparents, et al back 13 generations. At this point, I am an AMERICAN. There was no Ellis Island in 1665 when my first ancestors to America arrived.

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Jennifer, first of all this is not your country because you were not even born in the USA. second of all you probably just got married to be legal in the us which doesn’t make you any better than the immigrants that you are talking about. By the way are you still married or did you run to get a divorce after your paperwork was finalized.

By Nikole

March 28, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Cindy-My point is that some things are more important. Illegal immigrants do not cost us a trillion dollars and contrary to popular belief, many pay taxes and the cost of sending and keeping them out would be a waste of money. Focus on issues that truly affect Americans. Whether they are here or not, there will still be people in this country that cannot afford health care. But you are more concerned with keeping your country lily-white, right? Be real. If they were allowed to stay and pay taxes on a regular form, you would still want them gone? I’m sure of it.

By Nikole

March 28, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

ml-As a public school teacher, those students get their extra help with an ESOL teacher, doesn’t change the fact that ALL students,especially minority students, are not getting a decent education. Let’s talk about funding, and BS programs implemented by the government. That would be much more helpful than “trying” to rid ourselves of illegal aliens.

By young lady

March 28, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

CINDY, Well my point excatly the borders arent safe but the terrorits didnt get in throught there. THESE ARE POEPLE WHO WANT TO WORK FOR A BETTER LIFE NOT KILL AMERICANS. SWEETY THINK of the house that you live in and tell me who do you think built it. THINK of the food that you eat who is picking it… THINK OF ALL OF THAT BEFORE ANY OF YOU NOT JUST YOU CINDY WANT TO GET RID OF THEM.

By ml

March 28, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

leave poor little jennifer alone. good god..all these assumptions.

anyone ever heard of the old saying about assuming? takes a person backed into a corner with no real argument left to start resorting to personal attacks.

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Jennifer, first of all this is not your country because you were not even born in the USA. second of all you probably just got married to be legal in the us which doesn’t make you any better than the immigrants that you are talking about. By the way are you still married or did you run to get a divorce after your paperwork was finalized.

Miss Rosenda, this IS her country. She came here legally. Looking back on your posts, you speak like a true ILLEGAL?

By ml

March 28, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

and then you, ROSENDA. the nerve to say, and i quote: “….most of these people…have more respect for this country than most americans do.”

what’s wrong with jennifer getting mad about people doing things illegally? she respects the laws that afforded her a path to citzenship and is angry others won’t do the same.

insert.foot.into.mouth.

By Sarah

March 28, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe we are even considering offering amnesty to a group of outright law breakers. We should be going after the radical Hispanics who are fanning the flames here, round them up and see how legal they are. To print the address and phone number of a Georgia politican like one of the Hispanic newspapers did last week should be crimminal. Are we going to the local jails and offering other crimminals amnesty for their bad deeds? Why this group? They are a burden to our social services, we have to do something now. It’s a shame that idiot we have as a President can’t do something on the Federal level and we’re forced to do this on the state level.

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Donna an immigrant who is here busting there a* working and doing jobs your lazy american ancestor wouldn’t do puts them at a higher rank than a rapist, murderer and DUI violators. So why don’t you just keep your mouth shut about stuff you don’t understand. Go and read some more get the facts straight and then come back with something intelligent. Until then I don’t want to see another posted comment from you.

By Van

March 28, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

We hae a radio station called “La Raza”, it means The Race.

We drive down Jimmy Carter Blvd and see billboards in a foreign language.

When we go to the ATM, it asks us if we want english or spanish.

I do not mind immigrants, I do mind illegals.

They come here and take entry level jobs in construction, and the poor, willing to work citizen is left out in the cold.

They fill our prisons and then demand amnesty - If you are here legally, WELCOME. We are a land of opportunity, we have jobs for you, you can work hard and reap the benefits.

Instead of Yanque, go home, it should be illegal, go home.

By WAR EAGLE!

March 28, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

Amanda and Syed: Perhaps you come from Third World or 15th century countries that welcome anyone no matter how they got there. America has laws! The law says, you must go through a process to be here legally-just like in a board game-you cannot roll the dice and move 26 spaces if the dice say 6! Next-Illegals DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS! If a burglar broke into your house ( which is illegal) will you shoot him or offer him a coke and sandwich? Third-if you break into a bank and take money, should you be given amnesty, or 20 yrs in jail? According to you-they should be let off. Illegals have BROKEN INTO the USA-that is illegal and it should be a Felony. People breaking into Mexico go to a dark prison for a long time. In bangladesh or whatever backwards muslim country you want, entering illegally might be punishable by 70 lashes-depending upon what the Quran says. If you happen to be Christian-it would be death-and so on and so forth. So don’t spout the garbage that “Every American came here illegally.” Back then-there were no laws. There are now-so either show proof of LEGAL Citizenship or face deportation or jail. You say what would you do if you were in a poor country and needed money? If that were true-why didn’t these people rob a bank? (it’s illegal right? Unless some countries allow that under special instatnces like-I needed money) We don’t care if you are doing jobs that Americans don’t want-YOU BROKE THE LAW! And NO I am not a bigot, I am a legal, law abiding, tax paying resident and my ancestors were here long before your old country was even established! War Damn Eagle!

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

By young lady

March 28, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

CINDY, Well my point excatly the borders arent safe but the terrorits didnt get in throught there. THESE ARE POEPLE WHO WANT TO WORK FOR A BETTER LIFE NOT KILL AMERICANS. SWEETY THINK of the house that you live in and tell me who do you think built it. THINK of the food that you eat who is picking it… THINK OF ALL OF THAT BEFORE ANY OF YOU NOT JUST YOU CINDY WANT TO GET RID OF THEM.

Ok, it’s kind of hard to understand your post through your broken English, but I’m trying. Yes, I’m probably about 90% sure my house was built by some assistance of ILLEGALS and that burns me up. Not sure who’s picking my veggies either, probably done by alot of ILLEGALS. You’re still missing the point honey, they are ILLEGAL. I’d gladly pay more money for my home, my fruits and vegetables to have these services done by LEGAL AMERICANS, not ILLEGAL ALIENS!

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

By Nikole

March 28, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Cindy-My point is that some things are more important. Illegal immigrants do not cost us a trillion dollars and contrary to popular belief, many pay taxes and the cost of sending and keeping them out would be a waste of money. Focus on issues that truly affect Americans. Whether they are here or not, there will still be people in this country that cannot afford health care. But you are more concerned with keeping your country lily-white, right? Be real. If they were allowed to stay and pay taxes on a regular form, you would still want them gone? I’m sure of it.

As usual you’ve missed the point. I’m done wasting my breath on you, you’ll never get it.

By Van

March 28, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Rosenda

“The U.S. Justice Department estimated that 270,000 illegal immigrants served jail time nationally in 2003. Of those, 108,000 were in California. Some estimates show illegals now make up half of California’s prison population, creating a massive criminal subculture that strains state budgets and creates a nightmare for local police forces.�

Yeah, right, busting their tails.

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Fact: Most immigrants and I am saying most not all of them pay to marry an american (male or female) to then be able to gain their citizenship….this is also illegal. And I am sorry to say that if you were not born here this is not your country unless you are to ashamed to admit your country of origin. By the way I am a US citizen because I was born in the US.

By Ultra Elf

March 28, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

JH and Jennifer-Well Done! Jennifer, good to see our Aussie friends in America-Congrats on your marriage-US person I assume-It appears that there are some countries, Australia and Great Britain included, have taught their citizens to be law abiding and to follow the rules. Other countries-well, you see what we have here. If the INS had any brains, they would have been out in force to arrest the protesters and see who is here legally and who is here illegally. i noticed that you could run across Buford Hwy several times before a car showed up. Just goes to show which countries are in the 21st Century and which are far behind.

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

There is nothing wrong with Jennifer respecting the law and speaking her mind, but at some point she was here illegally and or maybe with a temporary visa but she just so happened to find the love of her life before her visa expired, so she got married and became a citizen. Do you really think this makes her any better than the people that are here ilegally. What she did is worse because she lie to the person she married she lied to herself and to the ins and that is by federal law the biggest crime and immigrant can do and it is also punishable with jail time and a fine.

By Ultra Elf

March 28, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this

Cindy, I think you have Jennifer confused with the Pacific Rim women that you find in the “Mail Order Bride” Catalog.

By Nparry

March 28, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this

The Senate has done the wise thing by considering a type of amnesty and legalization program. Without that, would you - illegal-alien-bashers, be able to buy cheap produce at your neighborhood Wal-Mart or BJ’s? Would you be able or willing to pay 35% more for your houses and 70% more for your pretty landscaping plans? Would you be able to get your kitchen sink fixed and your trees cut at higher-than market rates? So the wise Senators know who butters their slice of bread and have agreed to this face-saving measure. It works for both parties - businesses and the aliens. So quit yapping about illegals and focus on educating your children; keep them away from meth and drinking and having babies when they’re 13 or 14 - and then you’ll have a competent all-white workforce, that you all really want, but are afraid to express publicly.

By Melllllll1

March 28, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

This isn’t our land. This is God’s land. I’m sure he sheds tears with every hateful thing that is said.

American’s are supposed to be such great people? Just don’t mess with their money. That is what they live for and that’s what the illegal immigrants do - cost them money.

By Carrie

March 28, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Just a quick fact: since 2002, it is not possible to come into the US illegally and marry a US citizen and get a green card. It does not work that way. The only way to leagally become a US citzen with a green card by marrying a US citizen is if that US citizen goes to a foriegn county and marries a citizen of that country. If you don’t believe me, look it up!

By Joe

March 28, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

Most of the bleeding heart liberals here just don’t get it. Have any of you ever been to Mexico, the border towns and not the American tourist places? Have you driven to the desert and seen the piles of garbage, decades of it just sitting there. Thats what they do, they drive to the desert and throw the trash out. They do the same thing near my house with lawn clippings, they refuse to pay to dispose of it properly, so they trash it. Do you think my neighborhood looks better now with all the old cars parked on the street, yeah thats helped my property value. Go to the park on Pleasantdale Road, it was once a nice park but nows it’s 95% Hispanic, illegal of course and its a big trash hole now. We have even witnessed adults taking a bowel movement in the woods by the soccer field, yeah thats a sight I want my young daughter to see. You want a third world contry here, you want third world diseases back here, well liberals open your heart and your borders ‘cuz here they both come. They don’t come here because they like the USA, they are here because it’s easy to be illegal and we support them. If they wanted to assimilate they would learn English for Gods sake. Face it, they are pest, like any unwanted pest. I had the same problem with rats, my wife insisted on feeding all the birds and with the seed we developed a rat problem. What did I do? I cut off the food source and the rats went away. Apply that logic. And for you money grubbing developer whores defending this, all you care about is your bank account and your money, you don’t give a flying flip about them , you just want the cheap labor and more money in your pockets, you scumbags make me sick. Call me a racist, call me that with a capitol R, all that says to me is that I struck a nerve with your radical minority agenda and it’s bothering you to be exposed.

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

Have you checked statistics on americans???

By the way who was putting antrax in mail boxes and what was that building that blew up in Oklahoma a few years ago?? who did it I don’t remember???

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Fact: Most immigrants and I am saying most not all of them pay to marry an american (male or female) to then be able to gain their citizenship….this is also illegal. And I am sorry to say that if you were not born here this is not your country unless you are to ashamed to admit your country of origin. By the way I am a US citizen because I was born in the US.

Rosenda, why do you think the United States of America isn’t someones country unless they were born here? If they came here legally, then by all means, this is their country. My people came here in 1611 and I am not above saying that this isn’t anyones country because they weren’t born here. My ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War, we lost an ancestor in the Alamo and we have had ancestors on both sides of the Civil War and both WW’s and my husband is a Marine Corps Vet. I’d say we are Americans through and through, but will gladly call someone else an American who comes here wanting to be an American through legal channels.

By Ultra Elf

March 28, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Rosenda Little harsh on the Aussie Girl aren’t you. You say you were born here-what about YOUR Parents? I can trace my heritage back to the original Pilgrims. I think you have Aussies confused with the “Pacific Rim Mail Order Bride” Business.

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

Nparry: you are sooooo right that’s my point!!!Why can’t everybody be that smart

By tunde

March 28, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

it is very funny alot of people are so so short on memory and history.i think u should first live the life these illegals live before you crucify them.the question is why are they here? like everyone of us except for the natives, everyone wants a better tomorrow.these folks WORK HARD DOING HARD WORK.they pay taxes but cant file for refunds, they pay social security they cant claim, they pay sales tax, most do not use the hospital facilities, live in constant fear, exploited and abused, unlikely to claim damges when they slip at the work place. HELLOOOOOOOO wake up this is AMERICA THE BEACON OF THE DOWNTRODDEN …MY GOD…WHATS HAPPENED TO THE CONSCIENCE OF AMERICA.

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

By Ultra Elf

March 28, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this

Cindy, I think you have Jennifer confused with the Pacific Rim women that you find in the “Mail Order Bride� Catalog.

I don’t know what you mean by this comment Elf. I was probably quoting Rosenda’s post. Go back and re-read the post you are replying to.

By M.M.

March 28, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

www.justiceforimmigrants.org www.catholic.org

By Prabir

March 28, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

I am a legal immigrant and have been waiting for the past 5 years to get legalized. In the meantime, I can’t go to college full-time, can’t get promoted, can’t change jobs, can’t claim unemployment/SS even though I pay these taxes. How can they even talk about getting illegals who have broken the law in before the people who have been waiting patiently to get in through the legal route?

By Joe

March 28, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

Nparry about your lilly white remark. How many times have you heard anyone say ” Man I am moving to an all black neighborhood because it’s safer.” NEVER. All the things you enjoy daily, invented by white hands and white minds, enjoy them.

By Lenny

March 28, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

Why are we allowing businesses to undercut minimum wage laws to pay illegals? Why are our lawmakers not enforcing our laws?

As all the cop shows say, “follow the money!” Who is getting paid to look the other way?

Are businesses getting rich by not paying taxes on workers (social security, unemployment) which they are required to do by law? No wonder they like cheap illegal labor!!

I cannot believe that individuals in this country are actually saying that we should ignore the law. Some people’s brains don’t stop at all the floors! Laws like minimum wage, zoning laws, occupancy laws, etc. were passed to protect individuals and communities.

By Jennifer Ourada

March 28, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

Rosenda! LOL!!! My little illegal bichola…. Not that it’s any of your business, but I remain happily married which is more than I can say for you, a nice house, a fat mortgage, two cars, a nice garden that I take care of “sans” Mexican workers. Oh, and I pay lots of taxes! So much so that your little amigos can use MY COUNTRY’s hospitals and MY COUNTRY’s schools and send all their illegally gotten income back south of the border.

By Rosenda

March 28, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

Ultraelf: I am just speaking the facts she is being hard on people as well, cuz immigrants are people like you and me.

By Cindy

March 28, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

By Prabir

March 28, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

I am a legal immigrant and have been waiting for the past 5 years to get legalized. In the meantime, I can’t go to college full-time, can’t get promoted, can’t change jobs, can’t claim unemployment/SS even though I pay these taxes. How can they even talk about getting illegals who have broken the law in before the people who have been waiting patiently to get in through the legal route?

It’s a slap in the face isn’t it? Good for you taking legal steps :)

By Jennifer Ourada

March 28, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

Rosenda, I’m obviously dealing with someone with limited brain capacity. I was never here illegally. Go back, open your eyes, take a deep breath, and read my postings. I was always here legally. THAT’S MY POINT!! Everyone should be here legally, or get the heck out of this country.

Prabir, keep on trucking! You’ll finally get there. It takes time.

By Donna

March 28, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Rosenda, Don’t tell me the illegals are doing “jobs Americans won’t do�. Whom do you think did these jobs before the illegals showed up? Americans, that’s who. And yes, my ancestors did do these “jobs� and made this country what it is. This is a tired argument. Don’t be jealous because I am an AMERICAN!

You wrote: “Donna an immigrant who is here busting there a* working and doing jobs your lazy american ancestor wouldn’t do puts them at a higher rank than a rapist, murderer and DUI violators. So why don’t you just keep your mouth shut about stuff you don’t understand. Go and read some more get the facts straight and then come back with something intelligent. Until then I don’t want to see another posted comment from you.�

By MOC

March 28, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this

I am the Plant Manager in an industrial facility. My best employees are Latino. They are here to work. They appreciate the opportunities that they are given. My Latinos are also paid equally and in some cases more based on merit. Furthermore the Latino community as a whole earns its keep and then some.

By Robert

March 28, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

One thing is leading to another. We have to clarify hate for Mexicans or hate for immigrants or plain radical pregedism. Illegal aliens are a mixed group of over 200 different nationalities, Mexicans come from one country.

If we are pregedist, how come some of the US Born citizens marry the illegal for Money!. Or this one, the Hispanics and Asians have the lowest unmployment rate. And why has GA State and GA Tech, doubled up on their hispanic diversity? If they are so bad in every aspect why are they growing and improving themselves so much….I mean so much, with the same opportunities, same area, same market, I guess that they are more intelligent or more aggressive or have more innitiative, and we want to blame them just because they are illegal?

Most of illegal aliens pay taxes, and they do it on fake ids or Tax Ids. When it comes to collect social security benefits from the Fake ID the system will not recognize the mane therefore the money goes to the Fereral government, with the tax id, the accrued benefits will be set aside until the beneficiary can reproduce a real Social Security Card, which in the illegal immigrants case, the answer is never. So more money for the Feds!

By Amanda

March 28, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

Jennifer, I am not a blonde nor am I a liberal moonbat- whatever that is suppose to mean. And you should read the post a little more clearly and slowly so that you can understand my post. I said nothing of your family being in Australia illegally. We are both making this personal between the two of us when the issue is illegals here in the States just looking for a better life. The same as you- you came here looking for a better life. So if anyone should show them a little compassion- I would think that it would be you. So what that you are the president of your neighborhood association- what does that have to do with the price of peas? NOTHING!!! Being on the neighborhood association is no great feat and what does it have to do with immigration issues? Again- Nothing. But being an immigrant - you more then the other bigots here should have a bit of compassion. If you were still in the middle of trying to become a citizen- i bet that you would be compassionate- but a little power and success changes people doesnt it. Do you think that you are above them now???? So suck on that.

By tunde

March 28, 2006 01:13 PM |