Capitol Ideas

By anna

March 17, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Perhaps she needs to address this subject and tell everyone what her views are. Only she can settle this

By Tiffany

March 17, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

Simple. Jane can continue doing her “good deeds” work…if her intentions are truly for the sake of the cause. She will only have a problem with this rejection if she was doing charitable acts in order to achieve recognition.

By Lee

March 17, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

There are certainly more deserving Georgians that should be recognized for their community service and charitable works. Most work behind the scenes and don’t seek publicity for themselves. Her past (and present) political activism should not even be a factor in her selection. Let’s recogize those who have provided decades of service to help Georgians — not Ms. Jane-come-lately.

By Mike

March 17, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

I saw this on the news yesterday and for a minute I pondered thinking it may be time to let bygones be bygones, to just let it go. Then this Vietnam veteran saw for the first time in many years the pictures of her on the tank with the North Vietnameese military helmet on laughing and the pictures of her visiting the American POW’s being held captive in Vietnam and how she reacted to them and the anger resurfaced. I don’t hate the woman, thats too strong of an emotion and it does me more harm than good to hate another person. But, a part of me realized when I saw the pictures I wish she’d just go away and I wouldn’t have to ever be reminded of her and that time. There may be some truth that some of the anti-war demostrations here in the US may have brought and end to the war, forcing Washington to pull back the troops, but what she did and how far she went, was just wrong to do. We all did stupid things when we were younger, things we wish we’d never did, but that does not erase them. Unfortunately for her, what she did is now etched in our history, where most of our youthful acts of stupidity were no so known all over the world. The high price of fame? Perhaps so.

By Alisha

March 17, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

If she is concerned with bettering herself through helping others, fine, but it can’t un-do what she did.

This is why it is so important to really think about what you do, the things you say, and the wagon you attach yourself to. She may have since acknowledged and regretted her actions, which places emphasis on why you should think before grabbing a microphone. Our country gives you the freedom to do that. It doesn’t mean you will be honored when you finally see the light, it just means you’ve finally seen the light and that you are on the same page as the rest of us, and we’re not asking for special honors.

Also, with the financial resources she has, she absolutely should be doing something to better a cause…to not do something would be pathetic. There are plenty of folks in the community that give much more proportionately than she does. She should be doing something, what else does she have to do.

By Sir Jesse

March 17, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Jane Fonda is a friend of youth & her anti-war stance confirms this! Her deeds are consistent with her politics…one photo, taken over 35 years ago shouldn’t damn this!

;>) I <3 Jane!

SJ and…why is NASCAR important enough waste an afternoon @ the Capitol?

By Bo

March 17, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Miss Fonda you can help prevent unwed teen-age pregnancy until pigs fly but that will never erase the idiocy of your past discretions. Perhaps you might want to teach the youth of America that some things you do will never go away, they’ll always be around to haunt you. To some you are a great actress, to some of us…well, lets say you may never want to walk in front of our cars on the street with no witnesses to bare.

By Lamar

March 17, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

She has expressed regret a number of times regarding her previous activities in Hanoi. So what if she’s personally against the Iraq War? Many of us are … I say she should be honored for the work and accomplishments that she has made in Georgia. It is impossible for so many people to forgive, forget and move on?

By Jennie

March 17, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

I agree with she should be doing her good deeds just to be doing good deeds not for recognition and praise. The praise should come from within with the good feelings she will feel of helping others and being a good American. Unlike her “acts of kindness” in Viet Nam. I vote NO WAY, NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Tsolomon

March 17, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

not no….but hell no…never

By Michael

March 17, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

We all make mistakes and poor choices. Some are worse than others, some much worse. However, if a person realizes their mistake, apologizes for it, and expresses regret we should all learn to accept the apology and forgive the person. We don’t have to like them, just forgive them. At the same time, if that person goes on to make great strides for a very worthy cause, then past transgressions should not be the ever determining factor related to recognition of that person going forward. You learn from your mistakes and hopefully become a better person for it. If people fail to forgive and to recognize good, then it puts them on the same level as someone who would choose to be photographed with a wartime enemy doesn’t it???

By Bo

March 17, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

Michael, pull your haed out from your butt buddy and you may see things better and the world may smell better too. Hell no not forgiving that woman is not the same as what she’s done in the past. Is all about her big ego, she thinks she is important, she thinks she matters. If I were any woman I’d run from Ted Turner after having her as a wife. No decent woman will let Ted stick them anything he stuck her with.

By Cliff

March 17, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

The real issue should be that our legislators are wasting their time on this. Get back to work and reduce the taxes I pay!

By Paul Anuszkiewicz

March 17, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

Absolutely Not….Bravo to the State Senator and veteran that had the courage to serve his country and stand up against Fonda. She aided the enemy and should have been deported….

By Casey

March 17, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

I think it’s great if someone learns from their mistakes etc. However, we all need to understand that there are some things that you do that you can NEVER take back no matter how much you might regret it. This is one of those things and I think it would be a slap in the face to the soldiers of the Vietnam war to honor her in any way.

By Jamie

March 17, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

TO ERR IS HUMAN; TO FORGIVE IS DIVINE.

By Linda

March 17, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

I cannot and I will not forget what Jane Fonda did during the VietNam war. I don’t want to forget. Before you “forgive” her and laud her charitable and philanthropic works here in Georgia (and probably elsewhere) educate yourself to the full story of her betrayal of American soldiers and the fact that at least one soldier lost his life after the beating he sustained for slipping her a note revealing the true treatment of American POW’s which she promptly handed over to the commandant of the POW camp resulting in the aforementioned beating. Before you are quick to forgive and forget tell all of us who lived through that war how many family members and friends you sent to VietNam and how many of them came home in body bags or psychologically and physicalled disabled for life. If you want to honor someone honor that man who lost three of his four limbs to that war and went on to serve this state selflessly for many, many years. Remember him? I am elated that our politicians awakened to the full message they would be sending by honoring this woman and now the voters need to do something about the absolutely thoughtless and insensitive person who introduced this atrocious idea to honor a woman who is, in many minds, a traitor to our country. I am the daughter of a soldier, the wife of a Marine and the mother of a soldier. My father-in-law served four years in Europe during World War II. My father served in Korea. My husband spend two years in the middle East years before you, the general public, knew what a problem we have over there. Two uncles, a cousin and several friends served in VietNam. Not all came home. So don’t expect me or anyone with even a vaguely similar story to ever honor Ms. Fonda. Take her money for good works but, frankly, I wish she would go back to LA and resume her lascivious lifestyle. PS - She can take Ted with her!

By Lisa T

March 17, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

Jane Fonda has apologized publicly a number of times for her behavior during the Vietnam War. I thought Christianity asks that people’s transgressions be forgiven - silly me! Either her critics are not Christians or they are just hypocritical. Also, her organization, G-CAPP,certainly deserves at least some of the credit for the FACT that the rate of teenage pregnancies has been reduced in Georgia over the last couple of years. But the fact that taxpayer dollars are now supporting fewer teenage pregnancies seems to pale beside a 40-something-year-old indiscretion. This whole issue smacks of the “holier-than-thou” society we have become.

By Becca

March 17, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

If being a Christian means that I have to forgive Fonda for what she did, I now renounce my faith.

By Cntryby

March 17, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

There are consequences for all of our actions. Some will last a life time. No matter what she does or how hard she works or how much money she spends, she will always be remembered for being a traitor. To the people who server this country with the ultimate risk and to us all, she is a traitor.

Her frivolous desire to “be somebody” allowed her stupidity to shine through, costing lives, and possibly worse. “Forgive and forget”? Some crimes are unpardonable. I may be able to leave her alone and not pursue legal actins against her, but “honor” her, would be to spit in the face of anyone who has ever served this country, and every proud American in the land.

It always amazes me to see actors spewing political babble as if they know more about what is right or wrong because they are famous. They’re actors, paid for looks and being good liars, how does this qualify them to make world wide political statements? I realize we have freedom of speech, and they are entitled to their opinions. But with fame comes responsibility, when your words may effect so many, potentially costing lives, you should keep your opinions to yourself.

By Sherri

March 17, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

Well put Linda!

No Jane…you should not be honored. You should be doing the good works you are doing simply because you should; not because you want to be honored. My father served in Vietnam and you betrayed those soldiers and as far as I’m concerned committed TREASON! So work to your hearts content…you owe more than than you think!

By Pablo

March 17, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

If you kill someone in an accident because you were driving drunk, no matter how sorry you are or how much you try to atone for your actions, the person you kill is still dead. Some things are that permanent. Jane Fonda betrayed her country and by providing aid and comfort to the enemy she caused a lot of pain and suffering, and perhaps the deaths of many brave service members who served in Vietnam. As a deployed service member, and as the nephew of several brave men who fought in Vietnam, all I can say is that Jane Fonda’s betrayal will not be forgiven, ever…

By Lee

March 17, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

I, for one, think we should erect a statue of Jane Fonda. Let’s recreate her pose on the Vietnamese antiaircraft gun complete with a Vietnamese officer with his foot on the neck of an American POW. While we’re at it, let’s also have a Ga Politician kissing Jane’s butt while she’s slipping him some money.

For good measure, let’s place this statue on the front steps of the Ga Capitol building.

Just when I think nothing will ever surprise me, a politician will stoop to a new low….

By Mac Robertson

March 17, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

Jane Fonda, you have dishonored yourself. You derserved to go to jail as a traitor to this country. POW’s suffered because of you. No amount of good work will ever make me see you as anything except a traitor, in the same class as Tokoyo Rose. Your legacy belongs on the garbage dumps of history.

By Cliff

March 17, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

Until Jane Fonda publicly acknowledges that what she did was WRONG and caused some very serious physical injuries to some POWs, I think this will remain an open issue. The only way she is ever going to be able to “be forgiven” is to start doing things to assist veteran’s groups….though I have to say at this point, I think they would find anything she did highly suspect.

Personally, I think Hanoi Jane should have gone to prison for what she did.

By Becca

March 17, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Just so you know, the politicians who wanted to honor Fonda were female.

By Linda

March 17, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

As to the statement of being “holier than thou” regarding forgiveness for Ms. Fonda, we all fall short of the glory of God. Jesus would have forgiven. He was perfect. We are not. I am sure He has forgiven Ms. Fonda. I doubt that the Blessed Mother would have posed for pictures with those who crucified her Son and smiled for the camera. So while I admit my Christian shortcomings, remember that you, too, judge when you scold me for my sins.

By Scottq

March 17, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

Let us not forget the idiot that recommended her for this honor. I hope the people in Dekalb county remember this come election time but this woman comes out of the same county that put Cynthia McKinney into office so I doubt anything will be done!

By Nina McCampbell

March 17, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Why shouldn’t Jane Fonda be honored? Come on people, vietman was 40 years ago. Lets get over it and move on, or are you still holding a grudge on the north for invading the south 140 years ago? Some of you seem to think Bush is a wonderful politician.

By PJ

March 17, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Jane should apologize for her actions the same day the South really apologizes to African-Americans for segregation. Think about it; it was easier for us to fight WW2 than to stop the injustice at home… If you ask me, I think she doesn’t care about all this. To me, she is a great actress and a wonderful human being.

There, I’ve said it!

By Becca

March 17, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

I’m still holding a grudge against Fonda. I wasn’t alive during the American Civil War so that is a moot question.

By Becca

March 17, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Uh, PJ. There was segregation in the north too.

By Morgan

March 17, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

I must stand with Ms. Miles.

What little I know of the honor intended for Jane Fonda was printed in the AJC yesterday. The intent, as I understand it, was to recognize Ms. Fonda’s contributions to address women’s issues during Women’s History Month.

It is unfortunate that the patriarchal nature of our society allows an overbearing majority of white men to dictate the priorities of others. Not surprising many are draped in fine moral trappings but unwilling to allow any forgiveness of others.

(From Mr. Douglas’ bio it appears what he knows of the Vietnam era has been told to him; let me add my voice.) As a four year active duty military veteran, 1969 to 1973, I appreciate efforts during that period to bring an end to another failed military enterprise costing tens of thousands of American lives and, again, countless citizens of another country. Rather than blame those who advocated war alternatives, blame those who initially resort to irrational violent means.

By Yevette

March 17, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

This is a very scary blog. I didn’t realize that hate ran so deep here in Georgia. The war in Vietnam was not an honorable war. The people who served were, but the politics that sent them to war was not. Just like the war in Iraq. I fully support the people who serve, but I don’t support the politics or the politicians who sent them there under false pretenses. I thought we lived in America where free speech reigned. Oh, I forget, if you are not a conservative Bush support then there is no free speech. If I don’t believe exactly as you do, then I am wrong. This is a very sad state of affair when someone who supports with their time and money an organization that helps to prevent teen pregnacy cannot be honored. As you pray in church on Sunday, I hope you pray for yourselves. The hatred and hypocrisy is running rampant.

By Orlando

March 17, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

Well put PJ. Those without sin, cast the fisrt stone. She made a big mistake, yes, but if you can not forgive her, you can not get into heaven. Jane does wonderful things for African Americans here in GA. I think she should be honored.

By Orlando

March 17, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

Becca, segregation ran waayyy past the Civil War, I am sure you were alive in the 1960’s.

By PJ

March 17, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

Becca, you missed my point. Civil War was fought many, many years before us, but slavery and segreation are not equal. Ever heard of the Civil Rights Movement? MLK Jr was shot in 1968, way past WW2 victory. By the way, he was in Tennessee, not New Jersey.

By Proud Georgian

March 17, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

It never fails to amaze me how African Americans can turn everything into a race issue! I thought this blog was about Jane Fonda.

By Deb

March 17, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Dido Yevette! And if Bush is allowed to continue to be the worst President our country has had, then Jane should be allowed to receive an award for her outstanding services. Holla!

By Bo

March 17, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

The idiot voters of DeKalb will reelect that bigger idiot Mills by a landslide now, remember this is McKinney country, need I say more. I live in Dekalb and every day I am not killed, home invaded or car-jacked, I thank my lucky stars. We will never really know what happened to some of our men over there after that piece of trash Fonda left, the torture some endured. I hope Hanoi jane reads these BLOGS, or better yet, her children, and she realizes just how hated she is. She may act like it doesn’t hurt her anymore, but I bet it does.

By eb

March 17, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

HELL NO !!!!

By PJ

March 17, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Proud American, in case you wondered, I’m not African American, I’m Puerto Rican. I am just calling it like it is. Think about it, preferably before you start waving your confederate flag.

By Shannon

March 17, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

My father served in Vietnam as well and I will never support anything Ms. Fonda says or does. It’s bad enough that when the vets returned home from Vietnam, that they were spit upon and treated as if they were at fault for the war. But to see pictures of an American fraternizing with the enemy and turning her back on fellow Americans that were POWS and reaching out for her help, talk about the ultimate slap in the face! So much for loyalty to your country. I agree, she’s guilty of Treason.

By j.t.

March 17, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

No.

Hanoi Jane is a traitor. Plain and simple.

It’s very interesting that so many are eager to forgive her indescretions, but I wonder if they would be willing to forgive Charles Manson for his crimes. The gun she sat on killed far more people than Manson’s family did, after all.

And what about that thing your family member did to you? Or your former friend? What about your spouse who cheated on you? Have you forgiven any of them?

She didn’t make a slip of the tongue as a private citizen. No private citizen would have been allowed into North Vietnam during the war. She was allowed in as a celebrity to try to turn the U.S. people against the U.S. government. And she did it! And she spoke out against the war! How many U.S. troops lives were lost due to her conduct?

So, heck no! She doesn’t get a pass on this one, folks.

By Proud Georgian

March 17, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

To PJ.

Puerto Rican? As a native of a US Territory you lived off of the tax money of Americans but didn’t pay any taxes yourself. That explains everything.

BTW, I don’t have a confederate flag, I have an American Flag.

By Van

March 17, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

Orlando, it was a bit bigger than amistake. A mistake is something that can be undone, what Hanoi Jane did is unforgivable.

To put your country aside and support the enemy, is described in our Constitution, treason. I regret that no administratiion had the cajones to bring her up on charges. I would have paid to see that.

The peacenik freaks can all go to perdition. Didn’t like them when I left the Marines in ‘71, don’t like them now.

By Larry

March 17, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

The courts should have addressed the Fonda matter years ago. I they had done their jobs, we would not have some bleeding heart senator suggesting she be honored - unless it was posthumously.

By Paul

March 17, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

If this passes, I will refuse to pay my GA income tax. HELL NO!

By D.Landry

March 17, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

Jane Fonda is still a disgrace to this Country and should have not been allowed back in after her stunt in Vietnam! She should be a lesson to all the left-wing wackos running around protesting anything they don’t agree with today. One day they may grow up, get a real job and start a family (I said “may”) and they will look back with regret at their idiotic behavior.

By john

March 17, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

That witch. I took three bullits over in the rice paddies and am lucky to be here. She should have been tried for treason.

By william

March 17, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

to me it is insane that the legislature did that. the vietnam war was proved to be an unjust war at was unwinable costing many lives and us resources. she was on the right side of that war. just as now the us is in an equally unwinale war, for what ever pure and not so pure reasons, people who are against this war should not be punished for their beliefs. americans have the right to not support their government when they see/know that it is wrong.

By UncleCracker

March 17, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Give it to her once all these damnnn Yahoo Vietnam Crack addict, burn charlie m0therfucckers die the f******* off!

By Martin

March 17, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Jane Fonda has apologized profusely for her actions. What more can she do? If some people cannot accept her apology then that is their problem not hers. I would be willing to bet that most of the posters on here making really hateful comments would say they are Christians, but they obviously know nothing about forgiveness.

By UncleCracker

March 17, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

Give it to her once all these damnnn Yahoo Vietnam Crack addict, burn charlie m0therfucckers die the f******* off!

By CrackaazzCracka

March 17, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

Give it to her once all these charlie burning yahoos die!!!!!

By bushwacker

March 17, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Hey Deb, President Bush has freed 50 millions people in 2 countries, the history books will show him as one of the greatest presidents and it will show Clinton as the pathetic piece of trash he is, had an affair in the Oval Office and her was he was only the 2nd president in history to be impeached.

Chew on that FACT for the REST OF TOUR LIVE!!

By Bo

March 17, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

PJ, you’re from Puerto Rico or the Bronx..whats the difference, both places are chocked full of welfare low-lifes who do nothing but take our tax money and put nothing back into the system in return. Go back to your 3rd world island. And take that crackhead Mills with you, and yes McKinney too, we’ll throw in braidedhead for fun.

By CrackaazzCracka

March 17, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Hey Bushwacker—> Freed 50 million people against their will! Not a great leap forward!! And what history book are you referring to, the fiction section of the moronic pages!!! Bush one of the greatest Presidents—-Stop smoking crack sucka!!!

By CrackaazzCracka

March 17, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

I see “BO” has arrived!! Just what we need another inbred Hillbilly! Go back to watching deliverance BO!!

By MrHughes

March 17, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

It always amazes me to see folks spewing political babble as if they know more about what is right or wrong because they don’t eat their feces. Actors use the forums that are available to them, just like y’all doing by writing in this blog. If I was a celebrity I would use my power and influence to help make the world a better place. That’s the ultimate act of responsibility. Having a social conscience isn’t noteworthy when celebrities show up on extreme makeover or do/say what you want them to. There’s good and bad in everything. Folks have opinions, so get used to them not always agreeing with you. People say and do dumb things every day. That’s not a license to never recognize the good they do/have done in their lives or use something they did 40 years ago as a justification for spitting tobacco juice on them.

By Van

March 17, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

Martin, She has only apologized for the photo shoot at the anti-aircraft gun. Big whoopie do.

By Sharon

March 17, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

When does this woman go away? Every time she opens her mouth to speak I get the impression she hates the US and I ask myself, ‘why doesn’t she move elsewhere and leave the people who love it here alone?’ I have an idea for her next publicity stunt - Do it in another country, move, don’t let the airplane door hit you in the backside on the way out. I for one, have not forgotten her Vietnam days. Oh, and take Jimmy Carter with her, he was the worlds worst president! The two of them make me sick.

By CrackaazzCracka

March 17, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

Bo— Jane Fonda is only hated by a small minority of jackazzzes such as yourself! Bo since you are so adamant on repeated like a crying baby “We will never really know what happened to some of our men over there after that piece of trash Fonda left, the torture some endured.” What about the torture that is going on in IRAQ because of President Bush illegal action and war!!! What is your head buried up your azzzzz!!!!

By meme

March 20, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

Sorry, but Bo knows what he is talking about. The group that hates Fonda is not a small minority.

By Van

March 20, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this

CrackaazzCracka, Unless to have experienced the hate this woman has for this country and its people in uniform, I would take a little more understanding attitude.

Look up the history of people like “Tokyo Rose”, “Lord HaHa” and “Axis Sally”. These are people that turned their backs on their home countries and sided with the enemy.

Do a little research as to their outcome.

By vincent zubowicz

March 20, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

I suggest the legislature forget this nonsense and get back to work.

By mary

March 20, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

I applaud Jane for her good deeds and her efforts to give back to her community. However, I do believe the state and federal governement should consider one’s past (actions durng wartime) before bestowing such an honor. Afterall, recognition does often elevate one to role model status. Her actions during Vietnam were treasonous and ultimately put our men in grave danger. A convicted criminal loses his or her right to vote. By the same token, should Jane receive an honor from the same government she vilified on enemy territory and with the enemy literally smiling while standing by her side? she doesn’t even have the balls to apologize publicly to those precious men who honored her life by giving their own. Her behavior was anti-American. It was so egregious that by honoring her we honor her war crime and dishonor the constitution, the flag and the men and women who defend it. We should forgive but we should never forget.

By BA

March 21, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

As a former Marine that served proudly two decades after Hanoi Jane was made infamous, I would have to say that she deserves no honor from anyone until she apologizes to all current and former members of the military.

May she rot with all the other enemies that the US has fought against.