Capitol Ideas

By RFSOsInRevolt

January 19, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

I haven’t looked but I’m sure that many of the same legislators that support this bill also support Jerry Keen’s immoral and Godless legislation that he is lying will “PROTECT CHILDREN!!!!!!� Keen’s legislation furthers the worse than worthless, completely counter-productive banishment of former SEX OFFENDERS who are Registered in Georgia.

The banishment portion of his legislation is not needed at all to control the residences or employment of people who are on probation or parole. That has always been done and can still easily be done. The legislation is ONLY needed to retroactively punish people who have already completed their legal sentences. Regardless, it is widely known by EXPERTS to be completely ineffective at preventing sexual offenses and even worse, to actually increase them and the danger to the public in general. All at a huge monetary and sociological cost to Georgia.

Banishment is immoral. Anyone who supports it is immoral and Godless. They would be completely hypocritical to advocate reading a Bible. It is unbelievable that we have people who call themselves Americans who support attacking Registrants years after they have completed their legal sentences and forcing their family from their home, their parents from their jobs, and the children from their schools. And as if that is not good enough, they also want to keep food from their mouths and drive them into the countryside and hopefully out of Georgia. Obviously, the goals of good, God-loving people.

Don’t believe Keen’s immoral lies. David Ralston, Glenn Richardson, and John Wiles are also lying far and wide that proposed legislation will “PROTECT CHILDREN!!!!!!� It’s despicable, disgusting, election year rhetoric. E-mail me for more information or look at this link for a slight bit more: don’t be fooled.

By CAS

January 19, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

RFSO- There is a blog already set up for your topic so please go there instead of hijacking every other blog. You’re making me support the legislation without research just because I find you annoying. You’re only making it worse by posting this again and again and again!

By Melissa

January 19, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

As a Democrat, I think that it is a wonderful idea to teach a class, that is a voluntary elective to teach how the Bible is reflected in art, literature, history, etc. When your children go to college, they are not shy about discussing the religious aspects as they are in high school and it puts students at a disadvantage. Parents should not be concerned because this is not forced and would be a very educational course and would improved education in our state.

By RFSOsInRevolt

January 19, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

CAS, my post is relevant to this subject. Maybe the public already knows this but many politicians are talking out of both sides of their mouth (i.e. lying) relative to religion. If a legislator supports this legislation and also the banishment legislation, he/she is a religious hypocrite (i.e. again, he/she is lying). They have no credibility pushing for anyone to open a Bible.

If you look at the Bios of many of these legislators you will see that they love to profess how religious they are. But they cannot possibly support banishment and be religious, especially when the motives behind their support have nothing to do with protecting society. I think it is important that people understand what their legislators are really about.

I expect these legislators lead their churches by saying, “Yes, all are welcome here. We are all brothers and sisters and praise God together.” But then after the services are over and they’ve completed their religion for the week they say, “Now all you RFSOs go back to your communities and spread God’s word. But don’t go back to ours!!!! You can’t actually live around us. But come back next Sunday.  God welcomes everyone.” It just doesn’t work. It’s not what Jesus would do.

I don’t care if these politicians are religious or not but don’t lie about it. Don’t go to church with your family on Sunday. People who support banishment are nowhere close to religious. And if there really is a God, they will not be judged well.

Supporting the legislation without research would be a lot smarter than what most politicians and Americans are doing. You see, they KNOW that banishment is a bad idea. The evidence is overwhelming and little of it is even contested. The Iowa legislators that created their banishments have said they think it does little good, if any. So these laws are passing in the face of all known facts.

Do you think I am concerned about people who’s opinion would be affected by me speaking too much? Like those people will put one bit of effort or an ounce of thought into any of this irrational hatred? Few people can be bothered to even care. I’m not concerned about people who think with their emotions, facts will not sway them anyway. So you’ll have to excuse me if I use some tactics that are annoying. We are literally in a fight for our lives and the lives of our families.

some facts

By CAS

January 19, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Blah, blah, blah - stick to the topic and stop trying to force feed YOUR agenda on the rest of us. You already had your say on the appropriate blog and if you have more to say go over there.

By RFSOsInRevolt

January 19, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

That was a very respectful response from you so I will respond in kind: Make me. You know I am right. You and people like you can support whatever immoral, Godless, illegal, worthless legislation you like and I will continue to ensure that its effects are nullified, the make-believe “problems” that it was trying to fix are exacerbated, and that there will be legal negative retribution to equal it. I just don’t want to hear people like you whining about being broke in 5 years. This is something that is going to cost plenty and there’ll be no going back. So let the stupidity continue.

By Carrie

January 19, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

I am not saying you shouldn’t have a voice, but it is NOT the topic of this blog.

By CAS

January 19, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

I am not saying you shouldn’t have a voice, but it is NOT the topic of this blog.

By sharon

January 20, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

YES!! Our founding fathers believed it was necessary and the public schools were founded in order to teach the bible - so we would know right from wrong and be able to hold our public officials accountable! Dr. Benjamin Rush, one of the youngest signers of the Declaration of Independence, said, “if we DO NOT teach the bible in our schools, we will spend all our time punishing crimes.â€? And this is where we are today – our schools look more like prisons than places of learning!

By Scott

January 20, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

It is amazes me how quickly and ignorantly American citizens forget our religious history in order to promote their own faith above others. Certainly there were signers of the Declaration of Independence who would love their particular brand of religion taught in school, but there were others who disagreed and valued the right of each religion to worship freely without Government promotion in the public setting.

George Washington, while a religious man, was not a Christian. Thomas Jefferson devised his own Bible based solely on what he believed were the actual words of Jesus. There is no one Christianity or Bible to study. Most Christians can’t agree on which version of the “unalterable word of God” written/translated/interpreted by man to use for guidance.

If we follow Sharon’s reasoning then we can expect the Book of Mormon to be allowed in Utah Schools, American Indians to teach their spiritual practices to Christians in their schools and we cannot complain when Iraq begins to teach “a study of the Koran and its impact on their culture” in their new “democracy”.

Maybe the Christian culture in our society needs to ask itself why we continue to be such a violent nation when they are our primary religious influence. What are they not doing at home that they believe the Public School system could do better when it comes to teaching their children about faith.

If Jesus were on the Earth today, he would undoubtedly be very disappointed at the deceptive and disingenuous arguments used to promote his teachings. The “means” are doing discredit to the “ends.” Religious Truth is best taught through acts of compassion and character, not indoctrination or legislation. Just check with the Puritan’s who fled the Church of England; this is another example of how the oppressed in history becomes the oppressors when empowered.

By B-boy

January 25, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

If Jesus was on Earth today, he would not be a Christian. He would be what he was born, a Jew. I think he would be very disappointed in how Christians have abandon his faith and created a new one. Jesus never advocated a new religion! He advocated and end to corruption among the priest and a return to the traditional values of Judaism.

I agree that teaching the Bible in High School would be good thing for students, if and only if it can be done in a totally acemdemically and without a teacher imposing their religious views. Or for it becoming a platform for students to push their religious views.

By Darshun

January 25, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

The short answer is “yes” but I would like to have an option, and for young people to have an option, of taking other religion based classes like Islam, Hinduism, Confusianism and the like. I’m a liberal and I believe that what we offer to one “idea” should be offered equally to all.

By Cameron

January 27, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

Wow, sounds like election season is getting started early. This is clearly a bill of convenience, not conviction.

*The Democratic Party has lost control of Georgia, and simply will not regain it in the near future. This is simply the trickle down effect of the South’s Re-alignment that already happened in national politics. The trend has shown that state level politics lags federal politics by approx. 10 years.

*This is a bill of convenience, not conviction. Tim Golden comes from Valdosta, a conservative town in South Georgia. This is a bill proposed by him, along with others, who know they have to transform themselves into Zell Miller Democrats.

*The Georgia Democratic Party cannot survive supporting a liberal agenda. This bill, which I really like, is simply an attempt to slow the bleeding at the Capitol. They know, however, that they cannot stop the bleeding.

By ATT

January 30, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

I think it is a great idea! I’m no Dem, but remember what the word tells us … it shall not return void!

Read the word under any title you want, the Holy Spirit gives the word power!