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Vick’s flipped

I don’t care how frustrated Michael Vick was or what was said to him as he walked off the field yesterday. Flipping off fans is unacceptable.

In fact, I was so surprised that I didn’t believe he had done it until I saw the picture.

It’s certainly no way to win fan support, especially in a time when the team is playing so poorly.

Whether Vick likes it or not, we fans pay a lot of money to watch him and the Falcons play — and to win, and when that doesn’t happen, we get frustrated.

Yesterday’s loss was not Vick’s fault, but as the leader of this team, he needs to display more discipline and not lower himself to a heckler’s level.

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By Westside J.

November 27, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

I agree. Well said.

By Jack Sartain

November 27, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Fran Tarkington was a Vick type player - find his old playbook.

By Fans of Seasons Past

November 27, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

For all you folks yelling for Vick to be benched; do you remember when Johnson subbed for Vick when he was injured? Suddenly, the offense was all thumbs and butter fingers. What makes you think they will play any better for the current back-up?

By Jack

November 27, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

I agree that Vick doesn’t need to lower himself to a heckler’s level.

Now that said, I could care less that Vick gave the bird to someone who was probably insulting him. Someone calls me or may mom a name and I would do the same. It’s the middle finger, no big deal.

What is a big deal, winning games!

Everyone needs to stop making a big deal out of nothing!

By Najeh Davenpoop

November 27, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

Bird Babe, fans don’t pay money to yell at the quarterback that he’s a n****. Boo, yell, hiss, whatever, but racial slurs from the fans are just as unacceptable, if not more so, than flipping the bird. Flipping the bird is inexcusable, yeah, but it’s also perfectly understandable. The NFL will hit him in the wallet, and hopefully they catch the fan and ban him from the stadium.

By DebbieDoRight

November 27, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

So this means what? That Vick is HUMAN? Geesh! He’s not the pope people or the new messiah!! He’s just a human being who gets sick and tired of ALL the critcizism as if he’s the only person on the whole team that ever does anything wrong!! Heck some of you flip old people off when they cut in front of you in traffic!!

By Skank Ho

November 27, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

He’s a thug in the purest form.

By Tommy Lee Maddox

November 27, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

Do you think for a moment that if someone [presumably a white guy] would have yelled out a racial slur at Mike Vick in the Dome that he would have not been pummeled by everyone in the joint - including Security? There are some things you don’t do and places you don’t do it in no matter how much beer has clouded your judgment.

I imagine that Vick just got tired of the crowd voicing their displeasure with him. I’ve booed myself sensless.

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Well said Skank Ho. Only a thug would flip someone the bird and then apologize. Right?

Atlanta fans are bunch of fair weather idiots, and no doubt some stupid fan was saying some racist bullsh*t to him about him and his family. You people may get what you really want in your QB soon enough. Then you can go back to your half empty dome and still not have back to back winning seasons. At least then your QB will look and talk a little more like you. What time does the race start?

By j

November 27, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

This board is exactly what is wrong with America. Just because Vick is black he cannot be critized without it being racially driven. That is BS. The guy is not a great QB and never will be, but more importantly he signed a contract for $130 Million and took the responsibility of leadership and the face of the franchise. He cannot lose his composure no matter the situation! Stop defending that with race. It is about Leadership! This is not because he is black, just stop with the racial BS.

By Rodger

November 27, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Hey, I say the Falcons need to sign the camera man-he the only one that caught something Vick threw all day!

By Mike

November 27, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

What a load of crap playing the race card in this thread. There has been no indication that there were racial epithets being aimed at Vick. As a matter of fact, the picture from behind shows any number of black teens that were in the stands directly in front of him. Shame on you for excusing Vick’s actions by fabricating racism. What he did was wrong. He played a horrible game as did the rest of the team, he is human, yes, but that doesn’t excuse what he did.

By mo

November 27, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

Quotes that sum up the Saints loss-

“This is a league,”[New Orleans Wide Receiver Joe] Horn said, “where if you don’t do your job, they run your [butt] off. Those guys better wake up and smell the coffee and start catching the damned football. I can’t blame [Vick] for, you know, being upset at them sometimes.”

“We have three first-round draft choices at wide receiver and none of them can catch the ball,” [Arthur] Blank told [Fox Sports’] Tony Siragusa after the game.

Vick’s words: “I can’t explain how I feel. Somewhere along the line, guys have to start catching the ball.”

I have found out that ‘Thug’ is the new word since ‘N’ can’t be utilized in civil society anymore. I like that, though, because I have ran across more white thugs than black ones in history. (See KuKluxKlan, the Nazi party, the entire Jim Crow era, etc.)

By What?

November 27, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

“Thug” is a racist slur??? Since when?

By Skank Ho

November 27, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

mo Opinions are like azzholes and you are one.

By Lynne

November 27, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

“He cannot lose his composure no matter the situation!” Are you serious? Who the h*ll is Vick supposed to be? Jesus Christ? Ghandi? What kind of dumb azz statement is that? Vick was frustrated, as he should have been, in the heat of the moment he flipped off some heckling idiots. The sun is still shining, birds are still flying, the earth is still spinning on its axis.

By Wes

November 27, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

I am glad Mike finally came around. I have flipping off our sorry azz fans for years. Our fans are horrible.

By EW

November 27, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Vick is human, subject to human error like we all are. With this said, he has to realize in sports you take the good with the bad, after alll these guys are not making 30 or 40 thousand a year like most of of us do, he is making millions and millions. I get frustrated at my job but I can’t flip off my customers, if I did I would get fired. Face it, this season is in the toilet, go ahead and flush. Four losses in a row and not even to good teams (other than Baltimore) spells doom in any language. It’s not all Vicks fault, but as QB he is the main focus. We started off great and its been downhill since then, we need some serious changes, but what?????

By Scott

November 27, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

As much as I feel for the trauma of 4 losses in a row, and can understand the frustration of Vick, he needs to realize that he is a professional. In another profession flipping off a customer would result in diciplinary action up to and including termination. Now I am not saying that he should be terminated, but there needs to be consequences for his actions. If this is allowed to pass then what is next going into the stands after a fan boos? They have penalties in this game for unsportsman like conduct, but as a representative of the NFL, he needs to be penalized for unprofessional behavior, if for nothing else to serve as a deterant for others to not do the same or worse. Heck in 1985 the quarteback for the bears was fined for wearing a headband that was not approved. I think that placed in perspective we can all agree that this was worse than a headband.

Scott

By Logan

November 27, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Three things need to happen ASAP. 1. Move Vick to tailback and start Schaub. 2. Fire Knapp he’s an idiot. You don’t continue to pass in thside the 10 with the rushing game we have. 3.Keep Crumpler and get rid of those three no hands recievers. I have a six year old daughter that can catch better.

By dom

November 27, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

shut up dumb ho! why dont you and kramer get married? you are a self righteous idiot.

By Not Kidding

November 27, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

I say good for him. If people weren’t acting like spoiled sports by booing him, it would never have happened.

You go, Mike. Screw the “fans.”

By Nikki

November 27, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

He’s a thug.

Just like his brother hes a thug.

Just like his cousin, formerly with New Orleans and now losing in Oakland, he’s a thug.

As long as Atlanta insists on playing a running back at the quarterback position, Altanta will lose.

Maybe to even the game out, New Orleans should have played Deuce McCallister or Reggie Bush at quarterback.

Ha Ha Ha!!!!!

By Peter

November 27, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Ok so we gave a thug $130 Million dollars……….

Thank God I gave my season tickets up……..

Now I just have to get rid of my # 7 jearsey……….

Too embarassing…….

Mike Vick “Family Values”……

By Larry

November 27, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

Mike Vick a “thug” … that’s funny. What, may I ask, makes him a thug? Is it giving someone the middle finger? If so, every kid in America is a thug, including yours.

You people are ridiculous. Grow up!

By vick_is_sick

November 27, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

vick deserves better from the ATL fans over the past 2 years. racist remarks, attacking character and constant whining about his passing stats…I REMEMBER A GAME WHERE FANS HAPILLY CHEERED CHRIS CHANDLER AS HE LAY INJURED B/C MIKE VICK WAS ABOUT TO BE PUT IN THE GAME ATL fans act way too disloyal.

By Falcon4Life

November 27, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Logan,

Why not just bring in Schaub? Why are you wanting to change the OC and the receivers if it’s Vick that is the problem? Leave everything the same (o-line, receivers, OC and head coach) and bring in your saviour, Schaub. We’ll see Doug Johnson, part deaux, in no time. It’s funny how all the fans calling for Vick’s head also want to change everything that’s making Vick look like a bad QB before putting Schaub in. Same thing with the dumbss fans that suggest we trade Vick for a “bunch of draft picks like Dallas did with Herschell”. If Vick was so bad, how would we be able to trade him of so many draft picks. It lets the real fans know that all of you dumbsses know that Vick is not the problem but everyone around is yet you call for Vick’s head. Why? You all say it’s not racially motivated. Why Schaub instead of Vick when you acknowledge that all the parts around Vick are useless. Why Schaub instead of Vick when you can look at the stats and see that Vick is more accurate and more elusive behind the worst o-line in the league. TELL ME WHY, PLEASE IF IT’S NOT RACIALLY MOTIVATED.

By A Realist

November 27, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Reading all of your comments just makes me laugh. If you guys know so much, how come you’re not playing the game? Or coaching? You’re just a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks and your “suggestions” are a joke.

Get a grip. It’s only a game. And a stupid one at that.

By birddog

November 27, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

steelers were 7 & 5 and won 8 straight to win it all,so have faith put youngblood in and shake rec corp up and hopefully they will act like pros and earn their money.

By b man

November 27, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

As I see things the Falcons have an important choice to make VERY SOON: “To stick w/ Vick or change direction at QB?”

If Falcons stick w/ Vick: I personally hope the Falcon’s keep Vick and find an offensive system that suites him. But, inorder for this to happen Vick must show more leadership off and on the field and polish his passing skills. That is the only way to keep defenses honest b/c any opposing defense can stop an one dimensional offense.

I truly beleive a better passing Vick (runs only on designed plays or where the play is truly busted…ALL WR’s are covered or where defensive pressure will cause a sack) would be unstoppable.

If Falcons change QB’s: There are rumors that Vick may request a trade once the season is over, if ownership wants to pursue this option they have another big choice (go w/ Schaub or obtain a QB through the draft of free agency). If the Falcon’s brass want Schaub, then let him start the remainder of the season so he can become familiar w/ the offense.

Whatever the Falcon’s choose to do, I hope the right decision is made for the right reason.

GOOOO FALCONS!!!!!!

By die hard falcons fan

November 27, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

ITS IS OK VICK

but u need to step up and flip the birds at the WRs and that fool name Knapp!

U cant do it all by yourself!

Also u need to get that movie Rudy!

Eyes of the Tiger

yall 5 and 6 ..do u think yall can win the next 5 games and maybe yall got a shot at the wild card?!?!?

if not then go on head and play possum

tell ya boy D-Hall.. Prime could walk the talk and back it up.. and he need to shut up!!! No excuse

MR Blank u need to make some serious moves… bka as Firing people

please get rid of Sharod White.. that fool couldnt catch a cold!

TRADE DUNN

FIX THE DERN OL!!!

GET SOME REAL CORNERSBACKS!!!

WHY DIDNT U GET TO???

GET RANDY MOSS I SURE HE CAN CATCH VICK’s BALLS!

By a4atl

November 27, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

I am surprised that no one has mentioned the “touch pass” that was dropped. If Vick throws the ball and a receiver drops it then it must be Vick’s fault. Either he throws it too hard, high, soft, wide, etc….. Did anyone notice the Saints receivers having trouble catching the balls that were thrown too high, wide, etc…? That is because they are pros…..

By Ernest Carlisle

November 27, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

these people critizing Michael Vick are racitist begoits and is jelous of the amount of money that Vick is making for a african american QB. You must keep in mind that Vick dont play defense or special teams nor does he miss third passes. What make you fools think that these no hands receivers will catch any better for any a white QB. Get rid of the whole coaching staff and hire Lovie Smith.

By Jay Black

November 27, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

Vick is the QB and he’s here to stay so get over it. He’s not a pure passer, but he brings to the table something no other QB in the history of this league can do. He can win the game single handedly, which is something he just might have to start doing. Peyton, Eli, Tom, and Carson can’t do that. they need their receivers to catch to win. Joe Horn is right. I say Roddy has no business suiting up for any team ever again, because he single handedly lost this game when he dropped that pass. And DHALL needs some motivation, because he is not ready for TO or any other #1 receiver.

By Jay Black

November 27, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

And to all Falcons fans, do yall remember why Vick was drafted? Was it because he was a passer? If it was because he was a passer, then I could understand your frustration. BUT IT WASN’T. We all knew what Vick brought to the game. The coaches knew, the players knew and the fans knew because I didn’t hear any boos at the draft a la Donovan McNabb. He’s the same guy we drafted and I’m happy with what we got. True, he’s lost some games but who doesn’t?

By Prootwadl

November 27, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Speaking as a long-time Vikings fan (hey, I lived for over 40 years in Minnesota), Sir Francis was similar to Vick in many ways, but with all due respect I would have to say that The Tark was a more successful passer than Vick.

Then again, I think Tark had better (or at least more consistent) receivers to help him out. Some of the dropped passes I’ve seen from the Falcons this year are quite frustrating to watch…

By just me

November 27, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

As I do not want to have this post excluded I will not use the word itself, but I am a white guy who is tired of everyone saying “you cant say the “N” word. But all you hear black folks saying is “n” this and “n” that. I will stop useing it when they do. Till then get used to it. As for Mike, Because you pay to get into a ball game is not license to act like a complete a*******hole. How about the no class fans in this town. He should flip off the whole stadium if he wants, he owns the place anyway. I gave up my season tickets years ago but since Mike showed up the games sell out and they are on TV so I can still see them. Do you want to go back to the days of tv black outs. Put in Schaub and you will.

By Jay Black

November 27, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

Arthur Blank could have grabbed any beer drinking fan in the crowd and put him on the field for that play and he woulda caught that ball at the 8 yard line. One question for tyha coaching staff though. Why isn’t the WR coach fired?!

By Bill

November 27, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

Let’s all be honest, Vick hasot panned out. He can’t read the defense and he slings the ball to hard like some high school player. What really makes me angry are the players laughing and joking while getting beat. Lets base the contracts on performance and see how better things get, right now these prima donnas have nothing to lose mailing in a game.. go falcons and take Vick with you

By Ann

November 27, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

I cannot believe the name calling this blogger has. Disliking someone because of his playing abilities is one thing, but naming calling let me know the type of people I live with in this state. I am a native georgian and an avid falcon fan, but to outright call someone a thug , bum, terd and whatever else is down right uncalled for. I am disappointed in the falcon losing streak, but I will refrain from the naming calling.

By McBurl

November 27, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

Regardless of how the game was played and ended, and regardless of what is said on the field or in the stands, Vick is a representative of the Falcons Organization and must conduct himself in a professional manner. He should have just walked off the field and vented his frustations later ( out of the public eye ).

By Al

November 27, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

I’m not upset with Mike Vick for flipping the bird at his so called fans. Since I have moved to GA I have been totally amazed at the Tail Gate parties, the team spirit, the flags on cars that represent the favorite teams and just all the wondeful hoopla surrounding the GA teams. I have told many friends and family in my native California home that I think that the team spirit here is unbelievable. And I was impressed! But here recently I have seen that the so called fans get down right abusive to the players if they are not winning! Wow! In my mind, being a fan means that win or lose you are a fan. The same “fans” that have pumped him up tore him down. Now I’m certain that he could have chosen another way to show his frustration but at the same time, he did what he did and so what..Get over it so called fans..you’ll love him all over again when the team starts to win..that is when you are a fan right????

By Edgar

November 27, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

I’ve supported this team from it’s birth. I’ve put up with everything this team has done or undone and still stuck with them. After what happened yesterday with Vick flipping off someone in the stands I have to say that it’s over for me as far as my support. It costs me close to $2000 a year to go to these games and for a player to use that type of gesture toward the fans is unacceptable. No one does this type of obscene and stupid gesture and expect my support. You can keep your seats. You can keep your team. After 41 years of support it’s over.

By mo

November 27, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

just me,

what black man ever call you the N word?

Until they do, don’t call them one. Who cares if you see other black people call themselves that word.

See, the problem with that many black people do not use that word. I do not use it nor does anyone who addresses me use it. The problem with you is that you wouldn’t know which person use it or not.

See, as for me, if you used that word in my presence, I will certainly go to jail… and you would certainly go to the hospital. Some guys just don’t play that.

As in the case of Vick, do you know for certain that he use that kind of language? That’s why you don’t use controversial language to address people. I respect everyone, even if I do not agree with their actions. Especially if it’s something as mundane as a sporting competition.

ByWhat,

By what I have been seeing on this blog, the word ‘Thug’ has been used to derogatorily label the black players who do not fit the classic European model of fashion and behavior. In the past, that word was considered the “N” word.

Oh, and Skank Ho? I like it… talk dirty to me some more, baby! I’ve been BAD!

By ldl69

November 27, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it!!! this whole organization is out of control and you can’t blame Mora!!! I’m sure he has tried everything he possibly can next to selling his own soul to get this team up to par. It comes from within, and there is no heart on this falcons squad except for a few players such as Keith Brooking, and Patrick Kerney who is unfortunately out for the season, making it that much tougher on the defense, and we already see the offense can’t perform. Better luck next year, Arthur!!!

By doc6mt

November 27, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Bad idea to play Matt at all this season guys. The problem as I see it is he’s on the Falcons can’t afford to sign free agent list. If he gets injured trying to showcase for a doomed season he’s of no value to any team,including the Falcons.So seat him the remainder of the season and see how much value you may get for a young healthy journeyman qb. In the mean time until the Falcons get mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs we must play MV7. As soon as the playoff picture becomes a mirage this season, seat Vick to prevent injury and doom the next season. Shockley should be given as many reps in the real game from that point on for the remainder of the season. In two to three seasons as the #1 backup you may just have a real quarterback battle brewing. In reponse to “Just Me” if you feel so comfortable using the N word, go to WestEnd and yell it just as loud as you can.

The rice is mightier than the corn.

By savannah falcon

November 27, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

Bench the entire first string team. The 2nd string can’t do any worse!

By JB

November 27, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

I am not going to throw the Falcons players under the bus, as everyone else has already done a pretty good job of this. BUT the coaching staff is a joke because:

At the end of the game, we ran the clock out by handing off to Norwood like 10 times in a row. IF the coaching staff was serious about focusing on improvement, WHY didn’t they throw the ball on every play at the end to our “wide receivers”(I am using that term very loosely) and see if ANYBODY CAN CATH THE BALL. First one of the THREE STOOGES who makes a catch gets to keep his job. If they were worried about Vick getting hurt, then put in Schaub and let him throw. How do you expect to ever get better if you don’t work on the things you really suck at. Going out with a whimper like that to the Saints was really embarrassing.

By msteven

November 27, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Fair weather fans perhaps if you had not hurl insults and remarks at Vick you would not have been greeted with a finger. It severes some of you right. The good for you. Next time you go to a game keep your unflattering insults to yourself. Just because you pay big bucks for tickets no one held a gun to your heads to do so. I dont give a rats a s s what you paid out. That is not to the OK. to trash the players. Next time stay the hell HOME!

By davidb

November 27, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Unacceptable. Also, since college plays on Saturday and Pros on Sunday I have a theory. I think Mike Vick and Reggie Ball (GT) are in fact, the same person. They both want to use their first instinct of run first, pass second. They also seem to overthrow/underthrow wide open receivers and lastly, their play is as up and down as a dang yoyo. I am a Falcons season ticket holder for several years and this is it for me. Game over.

By April

November 27, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Hmmm if one of the Manning’s shot a bird would you call them a thug (doubt it) you would say oh that is out of character because he is your all american white boy (note: I am a white female writing this).

Bottom line this team lacks leadership. Starting with the coaches who obviously don’t know what teams to throw the ball or run the ball against. Example Detroit a team ranked last in stopping the run. We are ranked #1 in rushing and we did just the opposite. We have had the same sorry, undersized offensive line for to long and one has to use enhancements to perform and still sucks.

On the other hand players need to execute. Why is it that the TE, RB, FB can catch the balls and the WR can’t? My season tickets are 7 rows from the field and I get a clear view of the receivers dropping passes and defense getting BURNED for 40 yards or more. Hell D.Hall got beat by Hines Ward wearing one shoe!

Vick is not perfect and with the right coach could damn near be. But yet I guess you people think Vick should block, run, and pass. When the team wins you people are all on Vick’s NUTZ but when you loose you place 100% of the blame his way. That just shows you how much you know about football ZERO!

By Rodger

November 27, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

The Vick incident is unfortunate because it takes focus from this-I’m amazed and disappointed Roddy White wasn’t cut first thing this morning. I felt this should have been done earlier in the year, then he had a game with a couple big catches. That doesn’t change his overall (lack of) performance. This is a guy who could supposedly catch anything thrown his way, but I’m not sure he could catch a hand off. A real professional team cuts its losses-I guess that sums up the birds!

By doc6mt

November 27, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Some of the most prolific passers in NFL history never went to the Superbowl. They had success in the league but never made it to the big dance or won at the dance.Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Boomer Esaison, Warren Moon, Steve Bartkowski are just a few. While it may be chic to throw Vick under the bus he still has a chance to win a Superbowl. As for his finger gesture to a fan chalk it up to frustration. Frustrations happen, just ask Bill Romanowski when he was caught on camera spitting through an oppossing players facemask. Or ask Kenny Rogers about putting his hands on a cameraman. You see frustration can cause you or I to act out also, you think.

By Rodger

November 27, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

See, as for me, if you used that word in my presence, I will certainly go to jail… and you would certainly go to the hospital. Some guys just don’t play that.

Mo, that is what earns the term thug.

By monty

November 27, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

Who gets a pass for flippin people off? Just because you are frustrated does that mean you can result to the least common denominator. Is it O.k. For Jim Mora to flip the crowd off because he is frustrated? Can Athur Blank flip the crowd off because he is frustrated that he has sunk millions into this horrible team? If it’s O.K. for Vick then it’s O.K. for every member on the team and all the coaches to start flippin the crowd off for booing a terrible performance. THey got booed for stinking up the joint, They are grown men(supposed to be ) who get paid rather handsomely for what they do. They should be able to deal with it.It’s what we expect out of ownership,coaches, And the players.

By james

November 27, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

vick sucks

By The FINGER

November 27, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

I really think that this has been twisted the wrong way. Mike was trying to let the fans know that he thought they were #1, this is what the media likes to do, spin. HA HA.

I mean what has happened in this country that extending one finger gets the world angry. IT’S A FREAKING FINGER.

By Mike V.

November 27, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Who knows what was said to Vick? Obviously it got under his skin, but do you know what was said?

And whatever it was, why would anyone excuse that behavior? Look at the pictures. I see kids there wearing Vick jerseys. Kids that idolize this guy, now see it’s ok to act like a fool when you’re mad.

Vick needs to grow up. It has nothing to do with black / white. It has to do with growing up and quit acting like a no-class fool.

By Jack

November 27, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

Hope that Mr. Blank will show some leadership and clean house — starting with the coaching staff; Mr. Vick; his receivers; and those who think they are a one man show on defense. Have never seen a team yet that could win if they did not play as a team.

Mr. Blank also needs to improve security around the Dome if he wants to sell tickets — once he develops a winning team. There are just too many ‘would be gangsters’ that try to intimidate paying fans.

By cc

November 27, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

It truly amazes me the way certain people are ostracized when they are forced to show their human side. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not making a blatant wrong right, but why the quick judgement? This young man has been under the scrutiny of the entire country for six years and he finally has given the naysayers some palpable ammunition to shoot him down. Someone wrote that Vick polarizes the city. Well if the city is so polarized why is there a waiting list for the games? Chandler was more accepted but no one banked on him. This is a young man that needs to be corralled and admonished for his mistake. He nor anyone in his situation deserve a public lynching by America’s witch hunting media.

Let’s face it, alot of the player’s need a coach that’s also a father figure. Someone that these young men look up to for leadership, wisdom, and respect. Being a parent is not always a popular position.

By Rebecca

November 27, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

How is it that these people can get up on Sunday morning, put on red and black, walk into that dome with their pretty little ticket and BOO the team that they claim to be fans of. DON’T GO if you don’t like the team. I have loved the falcons since I was five and I have seen many MANY years where we were a lot worse off than we are right now. When it comes to Vick and his “birds”, if I was him I would have taken off my shoes and given you the bird with my toes! No man deserves to be booed like he was booed. You all buy his jersey and his shoes and love him so much when times are good but when times are bad you all show your butts. If you are a true Falcons fan you realize that things don’t always go the way you want them to but you don’t stop loving your team and you certainly don’t show your butt in front of the New Orlean Saints, I am sure they just loved that!!!

By red

November 27, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

So giving fans the finger means you are a thug? I recall a couple of years Matt Shaub getting into a bar fight, so does that means that he is a thug also?

By cc

November 27, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

Bird Babe your articles are so inciteful, especially the last one, “Fire Away”. You are allowed to represent the AJC and this organization can’t see the emotions that blogs like yours ignite. What ever happened to “it’s not whether you win or lose but how you play the game”? Alot of these steroid using cheaters are winning, but is it fair? I hate to tell you this but this is a game, it’s for fun! I can see why parents are killing each other at their kid’s games.

By inter89

November 27, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

WE ARE NOT DEAD

There is hope. This team has got the talent and injured players are coming back. One win will make everything click into place and right all wrongs. Maybe I’m completely dillusional, but we can still fight for this wild card spot. We’ll have to nail-bite our way to the end of the season, but we can still make it. Trust me.

By e.b.

November 27, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

You people kill me. I have NEVER seen a player under a bigger microscope than Mike Vick. I live near New York, and even the scrutiny that A-Rod receives is nothing compared to Vick. So the guy is frustrated -okay, who isn’t. He makes a gesture, he regrets it, he apologizes. A couple of years ago jake Plummer did the very same thing. This isn’t the first time this has happend people. And as far as Vick is concerned, got news for ya’. He’s not the problem with the Falcons. matter-of-fact, he’s not even a smattering of the problem. If you listen to the folk who know football, they all agree. This guy is expected to carry a team that has no heart, that has minimal talent, that has a horrible O-Line, receivers dropping passes, and that’s only on the offense. Please people, get off his back.

By Rufus

November 27, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

Every time someone prints or talks down about a double AA person they cry racism. I wouldn’t put it past Jesse and Al to be
at the next game.I think if Vick wasn’t playing some kind of sports he would be flipping burgers are worse, in jail

By e.b.

November 27, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

I agree with all those quotes Mo. Don’t know what you’re trying to stir up, but they’re all pretty accurate.

By Shell

November 27, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

Since some of you think Vick sucks soooo bad, lets get this deal done: Straight up trade Vick to Chicago for Grossman. Any takers? I didn’t think so. I find it interesting that the people who want Schaub to be the starter also state that they want a beefed up oline and better receivers! Imagine that.

By mr-glass

November 27, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this

2002 9-6-1 Playoffs! Beat Packers in Lambeau 2003 5-11 Vick injured in pre-season 2004 11-5 NFC Championship Game 2005 8-8 Offense scores at least 24 points in 4 losses

I just don’t think, Mike Vick is the problem.

By mr-glass

November 27, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Rufus-

Maybe Vick would be flippin’ burgers. So would alot of talented people. There’s no shame in an honest days work no matter how menial. Calling a low wage job one step away from criminality, however, is insulting.

By Falcons are Losers

November 27, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

All you falcons fans are losers. Everytime you use an arguement of Vick disrespecting the fans, you state how much money he makes. Not everyone worships money. Heck, our soldiers are dying everyday in Iraq because of MONEY. So, don’t use money in your arguments. You have a team of flunkies. It’s been that way for 40 years; nothing’s new. But it’s just like Georgians to magnify something this simple to attack the one thing that is right with your sorry team. I would call you racists, but you’re worse than that. You’re biggots!!!

By Howard

November 27, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

Vick played great yesterday.People are quick to jump on him because he suppose to be the leader. I’m just not sure I see leadership qualities. Is it me or does it seem he gets discouraged to quickly and just goes to the bench in disgust. When the team is struggling I want my Quarterback keeping the team upbeat. If I miss that leadership quality tell me

By Howard

November 27, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

One more thing somebody needs to tell D Hall that trying to make the pick at the half instead of batting the ball away was an opportunity keep the Saints from scoring not pad his stats

By Talons of Fire

November 27, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

It’s not surprising that the kluxers, nazis, militia groups and aryan nation are out in force on these blogs today. Vick’s “obscene” gesture was all they needed as contrived validity to support their racist ramblings and vitriolic venom. Yet, not a single one of them can do any better. The troglodytes beleive that because some of them are season ticket holders, this entitles them to some kind of special decision making with the team and can say and do whatever they please to any player. Vick has to operate with the worse receivers and OFFENSIVE line in the NFL, no running game nad brain dead play calling. A Secondary that doesnt even have the ability to defend a hail mary pass and a coaching staff that would make the three stooges look like life long members of MENSA. Vick’s greatest misfortune is being in a transient town with the biggest azz holes in the world as so called fans. Reading these blogs and the virulent racism that goes on here, there’s little wonder that Georgia is ranked 47th in education. That’s being too generous in my opinion.

By brownthrasher

November 27, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

Were you among the fans in the stands when Vick gave his obscene gesture? Do you have a photo or video of it? If so, our reporters would like to contact you for a story we’re working on. Please email cvivlamore@ajc.com.

Just like the AJC to keep a bad story going. Instead of helping to heal after the incident you are keeping the story going. Go write some stories on the Cops who shot the elderly innocent lady or something. Let the story die! This is not what we need. I don’t agree with the gesture, but neither did I hear the comments. The man apologized. Get over it! But of course, this is what happens when one media company runs the city. You add to the problem instead of coming up with a solution. Vick: APOLOGY ACCEPTED!!

By CJNOLA

November 27, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Falcon fans was this game also fixed or will you admit that the Saints whooped you up again and are a better team?? No fluke this time baby!! Saints-56 Falcons-16 in two games!!!

By e.b.

November 27, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Shell, I think the 0-Line & the receivers stink, and i don’t want Schaub under center.

By brownthrasher

November 27, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

You people kill me. I have NEVER seen a player under a bigger microscope than Mike Vick. I live near New York, and even the scrutiny that A-Rod receives is nothing compared to Vick. So the guy is frustrated -okay, who isn’t. He makes a gesture, he regrets it, he apologizes. A couple of years ago jake Plummer did the very same thing. This isn’t the first time this has happend people. And as far as Vick is concerned, got news for ya’. He’s not the problem with the Falcons. matter-of-fact, he’s not even a smattering of the problem. If you listen to the folk who know football, they all agree. This guy is expected to carry a team that has no heart, that has minimal talent, that has a horrible O-Line, receivers dropping passes, and that’s only on the offense. Please people, get off his back.

THANKS e.b. Very well stated. I just had to repeat your words. I’ve been a Falcon Fan for life and I just don’t understand the fairweather fans. Either you are for them (win or lose) or not. Vick is human. He just needs to ignore all the bad media tlak, the ridiculous blogs and PLAY VICK BALL. Don’t hate the player; Hate the game. It’s a multi-million dollar industry and it makes players RICH. Not his fault he has talent.

By Jordan Brown

November 27, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

Alge Crumpler is the only player who can consistently play his position on this team, besdies Keith Brooking.He catches nearly everything that is thrown his way, and plays his heart out. We all saw how he felt about the Falcons overall performance.

With that being said, we should porbably pass to him more than a few times a game. Why pass to wideouts like Michael Jenkins and Roddy White. Not only are out wide receievers very inconsistent catchers, but Michael Vick is an inconsistent passer. Doesn’t it seem a little more logical to pass to a closer, larger, and bettertarget, such as Alge Crumpler?

Also, this sounds weird being a complaint for the Atlanta Falcons, but we need to establish a consistent running game. Not an occasional 50-yard breakaway down field, but Warrick Dunn and Jerius Norwood steadily moving the chains. And of course the Michael Vick factor plays into it. The last four loses Warrick Dunn has gotten less than 60 yards in three games, and 70 or so in another game. Running the ball consistently keeps the defense rested, wears down THEIR defense, and maintains our time of possesion. And our defense needs to rest considering their inexcusable lack of pressure and mediocre pass defense.

Offense and defensive coordinators need to be fired, and Mora’s gonna be gone no matter what. We’re looking at around 6-10 right now. Arthur isn’t gonna be happy, considering he was pouting over a 8-8.

It’s not fair to single out Roddy White for that catch, or lack of one. Even though it was pathetic, and screwed us of our only chance at coming back. Michael Jenkins and Ahley Leilie are worse. Roddy’s mistake was just more obvious.I miss Brian Finneran. When he gets back, he should be the No.1 reciever, with Youngblood at #2 and either Roddy White or Ashley Leilie at No.3.

It’s a shame seeing Michael Vick frustrated like this. He has so much talent that we aren’t taking advantage of. I think he could be a decent passer given the right offense. Definately not a Peyton Manning, or who recently tore us apart, Drew Brees, but decent enough to where he could get 150 yards passing a game. Passing will never be our strength while Vick’s at QB. The offesne coordinator needs to realize that. If we’re the number one rushing team, we should probably RUSH THE BALL instead of passing three times in a row in the red zone. IF it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. BRING BACK THE RUNNING GAME.

By CJNOLA

November 27, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

I would like to thank Mr. DeAngelo Hall for going for the INT instead of batting the ball away. Thanks for your selfishness and dumbness because you helped out the Saints with that one. Geaux Saints!!!!

By e.b.

November 27, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

Hey CJNOLA -YOU IDIOT, if you’re a Saints fan, why are you on a falcons message board? of course, I’ve never met a real Saints fan, because before this year, they were too disgraced to be fans.

By CJNOLA

November 27, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

I would like to thank the Falcon fans for being very cool at the game yesterday. I always enjoy if it’s either a win or loss going to the games in the ATL. I think both of our fans enjoy playing each other and we both been through more bad than good times with these teams and I think we have respect for each other at least most do.

By buccaneer_baller

November 27, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

Hey DirtyBirds… y’all don’t deserve the multi-talented Super Vick. Let us have him in Tampa Bay and we’ll whup your a*******es on Any Given Sunday. Your coaches don’t know what to do with him. Your fans don’t appreciate him and your media wants to crucify him. You won’t miss your water til your well runds dry. VICK IS A SPECIAL TALENT THAT ONLY ATLANTA DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH HIM. Gruden has said all along that he would know exactly what to do with him. Stop whining and appreciate what you got. Grow up!

By CJNOLA

November 27, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this

Hey e.b. I can be on any message board I want & there is nothing you can do about it. Don’t ever question the loyalty of the Saints fans man. You guys are such fair weather fans it’s not even funny!! You guys are bad fans for all of your sports and that’s the rep you guys have. Don’t be mad that we spanked you guys twice this season. Just be a man & admit that you guys suck right now that’s all.

By Jordan Brown

November 27, 2006 08:32 PM | Link to this

CJNOLA: its hard to be happy when we have potential but the coaches and lack of effort screw us over. sean payton is a good caoch. jim mora on the other hand….

By CJNOLA

November 27, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

Jordan Brown: Hey man I understand your frustrations because we went through it the last 5 seasons & many more before that with bone head coaches and underachieving players. It sucks when you have talent & it’s not being used. Hey I have good friends that are Falcon fans and you guys just like us deserve a better product for all of the years we have suffered.

By Robert

November 27, 2006 08:51 PM | Link to this

These closet Racists are rediculous no Wonder were at War, cant find bin laden,and cant devise an exit strategy. too many no it all- white is right hypocritical Whites spewing racism in the name of football claiming to respectable. please! It’s a team game dummies

By Skank Ho

November 27, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

To clarify - Vick is not a “Thug” because he gave someone the finger. He’s a Thug because his whole lifestyle personifies “Thugness”. Ron Mexico anyone… anyone? Why is it okay for Ron Mexico to give someone the bird but it’s not okay to call someone a N!gger? It’s bad behavior for both parties. Ron Mexico and Kramer couldn’t keep their anger in check - much like many on this post.

By Talons of Fire

November 27, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

For all you so called fans giving up your season tickets, there are thousands waiting in line for them and thousands more behind them. You are not hurting ANYONE by giving up your tickets. Least of all, Michael Vick. For all these people claiming to be LIFE LONG FANS, you’re telling lies. Life long fans NEVER give up on their team. No matter what. That is why they ARE life long fans. You’re just fair weather spoiled idiots, control fraks who are angry that you can’t control what happens with the Falcons. Especially the QB situation. Who needs you. GOOD RIDDANCE AND NEVER COME BACK!!!

By tetuwacanda denica mutamba

November 27, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

J, thank you for telling it like it is. I am so damn sick of all this race bs. You cannot say anything about a black without it being racist. You can all kiss my a..

By tetuwacanda denica mutamba

November 27, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

Hey mo, u a real bad a* on the internet huh. Back off.

By New2thagame

November 27, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

Irresponsible, unexcusable, immature…are just a few words that come to mind when I think of or hear of the actions of M. Vick…shamelessly, Mike Vick is living up to the sorry reputation and poor sportsmanship that so many on-lookers have attached him to. Would it be too much to expect of Mike Vick to defy the odds, prove the majority wrong and lead/live by example despite it all!

Now to the sole person that even has me giving a hoot about dem dirrrty birds, my baby “since1980”…your comments are also on point…but you already know how much I respect your opinion on all topics. Your baby is happy to be back in the “A” and closer to YOU!! I missed U baby, and can’t wait to…well, you know how WE do! LoL!

By e.b.

November 27, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this

Hey CJNOLA, what kind of lyal fans where paper bags over their heads, or was that before you became a fan?

By Titothebear

November 27, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick gave the finger to some folks and called them names and told them to f-off. One week ago the Atlanta Police Department smashed down the doors of a home, killed a lady, who happened to be ninety-two years of age, and planted a small quantity of marijuana in her home to justify their actions. There are all sorts of blogs about Vick’s bad manners but none, that I can find, about Kathryn Johnston and the terrorism visited upon her. i didn’t like Vick’s gesture but he didn’t murder anybody. The Atlanta cops did! Though it was crude, Vick’s gesture is part of what we call “Free Speech.” I hope the AJC and some of you decent folks will talk about what’s happened and seek justice for Ms. Johnston. She didn’t get any from the City of Atlanta Police Department!

By bk hawk

November 27, 2006 10:37 PM | Link to this

FIRE MORA AND BRING BACK THE ONLY COACH WHO KNOWS HOW TO GET THE MOST OUT OF VICKS ABILITY Per sa and thats DAN REEVESSTOP THE FINGER POINTING_THE FALCONS HAVE MANY PROBLEMS NOT ONE.

By Talons of Fire

November 27, 2006 10:40 PM | Link to this

tetuwacanda denica mutamba What’s the problem? Swastika caught in your butt again? Or is your sheet dirty again? Dunce Cap doesn’t fit or did you miss the aryan meeting again? You just can’t stand the truth. If it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

By 70's bird

November 27, 2006 10:56 PM | Link to this

In 1974 I watched my first falcon’s game. In 1978 I went to FULTON COUNTY stadium for the first time. I saw Jerry Glanville lead us to our first win in the georgia dome. I was at our greatest win in ‘98. I was at our loss in Miami. I’ve watched Sundays game twice today.Defence sucks, O-line sucks. I’m not a coach. I’m not an owner, but I know by the tapes that even though Vick flipped the crowd off he bled red and black sunday. Gnapp goes, Vick gets his third different offence that he has to learn. Donetell has to go. Another defencesive scheme to learn. Vick may not win us a super bowl but he’s won me over. He’s one of five players that showed up sunday.

By Talons of Fire

November 27, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this

Titofthebear this may be the ONLY time that I will agree with you, but this isn’t the right forum. The sickos will only say she deserved what she got. In fact, it’s already been stated by a previous blogger. Hatred poisons the heart and turns human beings in to less than animals.

By Titothebear

November 27, 2006 11:12 PM | Link to this

I aplogize for bringing up Ms. Johnston on this blog. I shouldn’t have done it but there’s no blog devoted to her sad case and she was a human being cruelly murdered by those sworn to serve and protect. I promise not to mention this, here, again.

By CJNOLA

November 27, 2006 11:17 PM | Link to this

Hey E.B. do some spell check before you post something buddy. Hey before my day when they wore paper bags at least they filled the seats unlike you guys. I went to a Braves playoff game 3 years ago for a decisive game 5 and the only reason it sold out was thanks to the hundreds of Cubs fans that’s how fairweather fans you guys are. Even a good friend of mine who is from Atlanta and is a huge Falcon fan admits Atlanta fans are not the best to support their teams. Like I said earlier just take these two Saints butt whooppings like a man thats all!!!!! Oh yeah by the way WHO DAT? not the birds this season!!! :)

By e.b.

November 27, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

Hey CJNOLA, firstoff idiot - I’m not from Atlanta. if you read my previous messages, you’d know my location. Secondly, I’m not a Braves fan, so I don’t give a crap about that. And lastly, enjoy your Saints right now, because the sad truth is they’re not going very far.

By Titothebear, you're WAY off

November 27, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

base calling something a murder, when you know NOTHING about what really happened. Bullets kill no matter who the shooter is.

Keep typing from the warm saftey of your home, though.

civilians………….

By CJNOLA

November 27, 2006 11:59 PM | Link to this

Hey E.B. I think you need to chill out you seem a little upset there!!! :) I know we beat you guys twice but you have at least about 10 months or so to think about it & get us back. It was real nice seeing all those Saints fan cheering & having fun in that GA Dome!!! It was sweet so thanks again Falcons for a great Sunday!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

By Titothebear

November 28, 2006 12:27 AM | Link to this

Please note that some coward signed in, using my name, and left some filth that needs to be expunged.

By CC

November 28, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

This may have been stated before, but if the Falcons really wish to pursue a ‘West Coast’ style of offense, then I am sorry, Michael Vick is not the ‘right’ QB to lead such a style of offense. He is a ‘fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants’ playmaker, and best suited for allowing him to ‘create’ his own offense, not following a script play-by-play. He is an incredible and gifted athelete and a fantastic runner. Why not put Schaub in and put Vick and Dunn in the backfield? That way you can hand off to Vick to run OR if he wants to hold up and halfback pass he can? Just an idea.

By Dr. I.Q.

November 28, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Considering the poor grammar displayed on these blogs, many of you would be better served if you took the money you spend on Falcon tickets and merchandise and bought a book on proper grammar and punctuation. Maybe then, you’d be able to articulate you sentiments without resorting to trash talk.

By mo

November 28, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

tetuwacanda denica mutamba,

No, YOU can’t say anything bad about ‘a black’. I don’t know ‘a black’. I don’t know ‘a white’ either. I know a black PERSON. I know a white PERSON.

See, in the end, we are all PEOPLE!

(But racism clouds our vision sometimes and make us see only color, huh?)

Now, about the “thug” issue. A “Thug” is “A Brutal Person” according to Webster’s dictionary.

Brutality can be verbal and physical. To call Vick the ‘N’ word is brutal. Why? Is it only words?

No. Some words are merely derogatory. A black man calling another black man the ‘N’ word is considered derogatory (and stupid, IMHO.)

But if a white man (or anyone from another race) callsa black person the ‘N’ word, that’s not just derogatory… that’s threatening. And to defend yourself against a threat is a natural thing for a man.

By Boots

November 28, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

(*I’M pretty sure I speak for the vast majority of Bird fans when I say, *we don’t give a rat’s patootey what color our quarterback is or how much money he makes. We just want a quarterback who CONDUCTS HIMSELF AS A LEADER ON THE FIELD —- the sparkplug, the FIELD GENERAL who holds his team mates accountable for their performance! We want a quarterback who will show some ENTHUSIASM, even when he’s down on the scoreboard —- not get stoop shouldered and isolate himself on the bench when things are not going his way. We know we won’t win every game, but WE DAMN SURE EXPECT THE QUARTERBACK AND TEAM TO SHOW UP AND PLAY FOUR QUARTERS EVERY GAME. We want a quarterback who will INSIST ON HAVING THE FREEDOM ON THE FIELD TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AT THE LINE and TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OUTCOME. We want a quarterback who APPRECIATES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FANS AND THE SACRIFICES THAT MANY OF THEM MAKE TO SUPPORT THEIR TEAM. We’re not against Vick, just want him to GROW UP —- TAKE CHARGE OF HIS TEAM and realize that NOBODY GIVE A RAT’S PATOOTEY ABOUT HIS PERSONAL STATISTICS AND HIGHLIGHT APPEARANCES —- THE ONLY STAT THAT MATTERS IS “W’s”, so get over yourself and get into the faces of the SLACKERS and FUMBLEFISTED RECEIVERS and let them know that you’re tired of being embarrassed by their lackluster performance —- THAT YOU CANNOT DO IT BY YOURSELF AND THAT YOU NEED THEM TO GET WITH THE PROGRAM OR PACK THEIR DAMN BAGS!! It’s apparent to all fans that IT’S YOUR JOB TO GET THIS TEAM BACK ON TRACK —- THAT IS, IF YOU HAVE THE ROCKS TO CHALLENGE YOUR HOMIES! **

By mo

November 28, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Boots,

well said.

By tony

November 28, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

It is sad that we now blame receivers for dropping a pass.
Please do not insult the fans of the Falcons with sincere apologies. The problem lies in the fact that sometimes in management you make a” bad hire”. In the case of the Falcons the highest paid player is showing that he does not appreciate the fans! Unfortunately when you get paid 10 million dollars a year and you can not get the job done,I would find blame somewhere else to keep my salary! Who would not, I would too if I was not required to represent the Falcon franchise with any class or diginity. Again management has to held responsible for a bad hire!

By Boots

November 28, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

**P.S.:

And, Mr. Vick, if you’re not willing to be the LEADER of this team on the field —- to shake things up, which is your job —- THEN, YOU CAN PACK YOUR DAMN BAG, TOO!**

By mo

November 28, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Tony,

It is estimated that in terms of hire, Vick made a Return on Investment of his salary in 1 1/2 years. He means so much more just in terms of money to the franchise and the NFL as a whole it is unreal.

So much in fact, have you noticed that the Monday after the whole “Dirty Bird” incident that the NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, paid a little visit to Flowery Branch? And he didn’t come all fiery, either. He conducted a little training session on sensitivity, or something.

Why is that? Because black people like Vick and the NAACP got his back? Is it because he lives in Atlanta, with the highest black millionaire ratio per capita than any other city in the nation… and he just kind of fits right in?

Of course not!

The reason why Vick is such a huge commodity for the NFL and the Falcons is the draw. He is an oddity. He is one of the fastest players in the NFL and has one of the strongest arms in the NFL. He is exciting and he sells out EVERY stadium he plays in.

But, like what Michael Wilbon said… he’s like a martian. No coach knows how to coach him. He’s a talent that is wasting away because the coaches do not know what to do with that unique mix of talent.

What I would like to see is a coach that will experiment with Vick. I would like to see a play or two with Vick lined up in the backfield. I would like to see Vick throwing slants. I would like to see Vick running weird reverses and passes that defies conventional offenses.

I would like to see Mike Martz coach Vick for ONE GAME! Mike Martz would get no sleep, he’ll be so creative! It would look a little sandlot, but I think it would be effective. I want to see fearless coaching! And I want that weird play to be tempered with a strong, in your face running attack!

By Boots

November 28, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

Mo—- I think you’ve hit on something that will be a millstone around Vick’s neck —- that will prevent him from attaining his true potential.

He knows that he fills seats, he knows he won’t be cut, he knows that the African American community backs him unconditionally and make excuses for his inconsistencies and he know that he’s protected by the threat of the NAACP and boycott of Home Depot stores.

This job security will keep him from attaining his true potential! There’s no need to GROW, he’ll just ride out his lucrative contract with no fear of retribution.

By Rodger

November 28, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

C’mon folks-it didn’t show good judgement for Vick to flip off fans, but unlike many others,he has apologized & apologized! Let’s let the team & league, and maybe his teammates, do what they need to, and move on!

The worst part is neither he nor the coaches will call anyone out for crappy play! The only one called out has been Vick, who ran for 160+, and if the receivers didn’t suck, would have passed for 200+ with a couple TDs! Thank goodness King Arthur will call them out.

By Rodger

November 28, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

Mo, The footage of Goodell at Flowery Branch was 2 weeks ago when he was here, not a current visit…

By Corliss

November 28, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Let’s get one thing straight: for all of Michael Vick’s “greatness” how is it that LaDanian Tomlinson has more touchdown passes than Vick this season? For ALL that running Vick does this offense does not score and THAT is what counts. Over 160yds rushing by Vick & 13 points to show for it. If all that running doesn’t equate to touchdowns the Falcons will stay in this freefall they’re in and there won’t be a thing Mora(and crew)can do about it. Vick moves product, puts butts in the seats and is good for about 4-5 ESPN highlight reels on S/C;even though he barely completes 50% of his throws and his team has this nasty habit of making HORRIBLE teams look like world-beaters. You know what that’s called: ALL sizzle & NO steak. BTW: Vick flipping off the fans was a punk move. I know he was p** but your franchise player just CANNOT do that.

By mo

November 28, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

Rodger,

Thanks. Didn’t know. It seems, though, that he was talking in terms to the situation. That’s why I thought it was from yesterday.

My bad…

By South Side Freddy

November 28, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Glad to see the Falcons were giving 110%, Just imagine if they were only giving 100%. Also 2 words to decribe MV7 ‘no class’

By Fan01

November 28, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

I have a suggestyion how about we talk about something other than Michael Vick doing this. Not saying he was wrong or right but it happened get over it. It seems as though this is the only thing the writers wanna talk about. How about mentioning the fact that this team sucks right now and that having only Michael Vick, Keith Brooking and Michael Boley play with passion is not going to win us games.Nobody is so leave the man alone get a life and find something else to write about.

By Fan01

November 28, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

There is not one single person on this blog who is perfect, or who has’nt given the middle finger to people. You people really need to get a life.

By South Side Freddy

November 28, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Okay in everyday life, most of us flip the bird to someone. However if I do this at work to a customer, it is very different story. BTW: Just imagine if John Rocker “flipped the bird”. He would already canned.

By bob gillesspee

November 28, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

I wonder what Arthur Blank would have done if a store manager flipped a customer?????? Give him or her a new contract????????

By bob gillesspee

November 28, 2006 10:36 PM | Link to this

what the hell has Ms Johnson got do with this????????

By domeOFpain

November 29, 2006 12:08 AM | Link to this

What does all this flipping stuff have to do with the next game that we need to win against the Redskins? Is it Sunday yet?

By Cap

November 29, 2006 01:18 AM | Link to this

Oh yeah, no one in Atlanta has ever flipped anybody off while driving on I-75. Maybe the complainers are the one’s getting flipped off. Despite it being a crude gesture, people don’t get flipped off for no reason. With that being said, Vick is going to end up paying 20 large for his transgressions. Judging from some of the comments in this particular blog, a good half of the fan base deserves to get flipped off by Vick. Lest all you haters forgot about Vick’s importance to this franchise, allow me to repost the transcript of Sean Salisbury of ESPN’s NFL Primetime:

“Quite frankly I’m tired of everybody pointing the finger at Number 7. Sure sometimes he misses throws or makes mistakes but without Vick the Falcons aren’t SQUAT. How about some receivers? You have three Number Ones that couldn’t catch a cold or even if you walked the ball up and handed it to them. How about some help? The guy has a dome and a franchise loaded up on his shoulders, and let’s face it, if Vick doesn’t play well the Falcons have no shot. It’s really that simple. All of the fingers are pointed at Vick and he’s not a dropback passer and all the nonsense….enough! Without Vick Atlanta will be picking in the top five picks next year! It’s about time somebody else step up and start eating the Life Cereal (give it to Mikey he does everything) and give Vick some help. He’s gotta get better but he also needs some help. Three Number Ones (Jenkins, Lelie, and White), please! I could get guys in the seven round or undrafted that can outplay these guys!!”

By Chalk Person

November 29, 2006 01:27 AM | Link to this

You blacks really need to get over it regarding that Latin-based word that begins with the letter N. Don’t you realize that by being so offended, hurt and outraged by that word you continue to give power to those who use it? If the people who hate blacks found that the word they use to describe you no longer has any impact, then they would cease using it. Do you think that calling white people honkey, cracker and redneck really bothers them? Hint: it does not.

By Billy

November 29, 2006 02:46 AM | Link to this

I love reading this stuff. Anytime that someone criticizes Vick, it’s RACISM!!!!!!

Get over yourselves. Steve McNair, Tom Brady, etc. do great with mediocre receivers. At some point, the quarterback has to take responsibility. It’s okay for me to say that, though. I don’t live in Atlanta, and I don’t have to listen to all of the stupid people who want to scream RACISM everytime that Mike Vick doesn’t complete a pass… Well, they don’t scream racism right then. It’s anytime that someone actually brings up the fact that he completes 30% of his passes…

You want a good quarterback? Look at Vince Young. He actually seems to be adapting to the NFL game. And at this point, he almost has as many wins this season as the atlanta savior…

By South Georgia

November 29, 2006 07:42 AM | Link to this

I thougth this was a support site fot the Falcons,most of you just tear them up…….Go falcons Go ..Go Vick Go

By keep it real!

November 29, 2006 07:44 AM | Link to this

Vick paid 20 k and the a$$ HOLE FANS AND MEIDA(0 ). The MEIDA SET BACK AS GODS THEY KEEP ALL THIS $hit Going! This is Clown capital of the World. The finger happen every day in America. We are a bunch of Hypocrites and the media is the main one! People talk about the kids more of them shot the finger last week than Vick will every shoot in his life! Vick is tacking the heat for his team mate and coaches problem. Yes the finger was not right but some of our fans the Media some player and coaches or Hypocrites!

By mister.earl

November 29, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

“He knows that he fills seats, he knows he won’t be cut, he knows that the African American community backs him unconditionally and make excuses for his inconsistencies and he know that he’s protected by the threat of the NAACP and boycott of Home Depot stores.”

Boots - those have GOT to be some of the most ignorant coments ec=ver posted. What does the NAACP have to do with playing effective quarterback in the NFL?

Boycott of Home Depot?

are you serious?

By mister.earl

November 29, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

A billion posts and couting

I wonder what would happen if people invested as much passion into solving hunger in Atlanta… or homelessness… or had as much passion for people dying for unjust wars on the other side of the globe?

In the immortal words of Allan Iverson…

“we’re talking about football”

not something that makes a difference… or matters in anyones life

football…

we’re talking about football

not how to make things better

Football

how silly is that?

By mo

November 29, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

Chalk Person,

The reason why that word is considered a threat to African-Americans is because the word was used to label us as sub-human throughout our history in America. When our ancestors were beaten, we were called that word as a support mechanism to further oppress our people.

It was used as validation that as a sub-human, that word gives creedence that we somehow deserve to be lynched, and that lynching is justified.

It is like to a Jew, a verbal Swastika. Or, to a WASP, being burned in effigy.

It is a threat. It is just like telling you that you deserve to be beaten and abused, and if you don’t like it, you die.

I realize that people outside of our race cannot understand it, but our reference points are so different. Our histories are different. And our present experiences are different.

To all of those who want to have that effect, they will continue to use it. But for those who were merely didn’t know or still don’t know, perhaps this could give you a little insight.

I hope you see that that word is really nothing like calling a white guy a “Cracker” or “honkey.” It’s not threatening at all.

But imagine this: If you were in the South Bronx or East St. Louis or Patterson NJ, or any true inner city. Imagine then if you saw no police and no other white people but you. And then you see some black guys on the corner and they speak to you angrily and call you a “Cracker.” Would you feel threatened? Why? Because in those neighborhoods, African-Americans are the predominant group. And you are the minority.

To many who are African-Americans, we live in a country where we have been enslaved and continues to be victims of violence. Then are person calls us the ‘N’ word. To us, it’s just like that feeling that you would have felt if you were on the side of town and someone calls you a “cracker.”

By Boots

November 29, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Mr. Earl: My post was in response to Mo’s of 11/28 at 11:30 AM. Mo is the one who introduced the NAACP into the blog. My point was, as I’m sure you noted, that because of the clout/unconditional support of the African American community and the leverage of the NAACP, Vick was going NOWHERE! Further, the fact that he has absolute job security because of these factors, he will not feel the need to stretch to his optimum capabilities to maintain his position with the Birds. Adios!

By Boots

November 29, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

**Mo —- Your point is well taken and I’m certain that the vast majority of white people do not approve of the use of that term. Certainly, it was never used in my house when I was growing up. But, since football and basketball are composed of approximately 80% African Americans and baseball is about 65% African American/Hispanic —- certainly, you do not view as “racist” any remark concerning the performance of a player —- since most of the players in these sports are African American. That would be idiocy, wouldn’t it?

By Chalky

November 29, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Mo, it’s not that I don’t “understand” why an ancient Latin-based word for black causes your testicles to shrivel and your b.p. to rise, it’s that trying to ban a word is not efficacious. And, it doesn’t help the cause that black people call each other that on a regular basis.

By Call me Earl

November 29, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

Americans has a new TERRORIST, RACIST idiots

Idiots List of hate 1)race 2)finance 3)Sex 4)Religion

STOP THE RACIST COMMENTS RUNNING QB NOT A POCKET QB JUST ANOTHER FLASH NOT SMART ENOUGH TO PLAY QB PLAY SCHAUB AT QB

This city has been deseased by racism. All of you ignorant people that call Atlanta home. I don’t care if you’ve been here for years. Go home! If you’re a local and you continue to echo the above, take your coward behind around the corner to Simpson Rd. and Ashby St. to discuss M.Vick’s inability to play QB with the fans of color.

By keep it real!

November 29, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Some FANS MEDIA players COACHES MANAGEMENT hypocrites. Mike Taking all the heat for teams and I MEAN teams problem.

By Boots

November 29, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

Call-me-Earl: You’ll have to excuse me, but I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about! Vick is a very talented athlete with the ability to rush for 166 yards last week. But, who cares what goes on between the 20’s. The Birds aren’t scoring and the quarterback walks to the sidelines, after another 3 and out, stooped-shouldered, pouting like a petulent child. Effective quarterbacks are the on-field leaders of their team. He should be in the face of his fumble-fisted receivers and stick his boot up the anus of his offensive line if they’re not performing. That’s my problem with Vick —- it’s not racial, financial, sexual or religious. I just want him to work or his passing and be a leader on the field. And, so far I haven’t seen that from Vick! Adios!

By keep it real!

November 29, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

BY Boots What about the other player and coaches they are not dong there part. Vick plays offense the defense gave up 31 point. Fact defense scored 31 points Fact they drop balls . Fact he ran for 166 yards. You Guys beat all I every seen. Work on his passing did you see the game how Manny drop passes the receiver drop. You people can’t see are got heart problems. Vick is not the core problem . I don’t care how much he works on his passing the receiver has to catch the ball. I guess he has to catch it to. You GUYS are FULL of $hit and hate!

By midniterider

November 29, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

April

you will never see one of the Mannings do that thats the point there pros and have something Vick dont its called class and it aint because hes black you would never see W Dunn do that because he also is a class guy along with a lot of others in the nfl black and white so its not a matter of black or white its a matter of class

By mo

November 29, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

Chalk,

See, THAT’s the issue. It’s not WHAT is said, but WHO is saying it.

That ‘N’ word was a very diminished connotation when a black person says it to another black person. Black people did not nor do not have the authority nor the power to oppress another black person here in America.

But a white person did (and some still do).

Now, I am of the school that that word should never be uttered from human lips, black or white. But a black person who calls another black person that word is just displaying ignorance IMHO. But a white person who calls a black person that word is showing their contempt.

By mo

November 29, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

Boots,

I would also have to clarify my statement about the NAACP. I do not know for sure if the NAACP will have his back or not. Nor it wasn’t merely a question of comfort.

Vick will be comfortable almost anywhere in the US. There’s an NAACP chapter in all of those cities, and his lifestyle is not a buffer against being traded.

I wa speaking in terms to Mike’s value to the NFL and the reasons why. I was speaking that Mike was valuable to the NFL and the Falcons because of his unique talents, not because of his lifestyle.

By wheres leeman bennett?

November 29, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

who cares anymore, they should have never fired Dan Reeves. I know, but, there were no other qulified candidates and now al of us doubters are saying we told you so. Sure we needed a coach, but a son of a former whiny coach was not the answer then, and not now. if Shula gets fired after he states he will make no coaching moves well then i think Mora deserves it too. he says the same ting, we are gonna stay on course.. oh my gosh… lets hit a brick wall doing 100 every Sunday. lets make Vick a tailback, and out in someone that can be a leader….not a spoiled brat with a venerial disease. theres no tellin whar that finger has been…

By April

November 29, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

midniterider…. ok what about Jake Plummer what were people calling him? I bet they didn’t call him a thug…

Chalk Peterson your ignorance shows in your Post and I quote “You black people”!

By April

November 29, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

midniterider…. ok what about Jake Plummer what were people calling him when he gave the bird few years ago? I bet they didn’t call him a thug…

Chalk Peterson your ignorance shows in your Post and I quote “You black people”!

By bobcat

November 29, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this

The falcons have had there ups and downs but as of lately they cant seem to turn things around . In the past it was the receives and then the backs and the o-line and the defense and now the qb. I think if the team would play as a (team)they might get a hole lot further. There to many egoes on this team. maybe changeing things up might get this teams attention. starting a new qb or even new wide receivers just make a point to this team. This is not mike,s team it,s the atlanta falcons and no one person can win 16 games by him self . I still think it,s egoes .I,d like to see Schaub at qb just to see if he could turn things around or maybe the 2nd or even the 3rd stringers just try something new. The falcons need to get back in to winning form and if mike wants to be traded then trade him ,Mr. Blank has given we the fans (the best) money can buy. It,s not the Owner or the coaches it,s the players with the egoes . If changes need to be made then make them i want a winner and so does atlanta and the state of ga . The falcons need to fix the problem.

By Boots

November 29, 2006 09:44 PM | Link to this

Keep it Real —- You’re probably right —- I’m full of sh, but NOT hate. Answer one question please: What good does it do for Vick and the offense to run up and down the field between the 20’s? Why can’t they score? Now, don’t blame it on the OC. With Vick’s status as the franchise player, he could call a time out and get whatever play he wants. As the franchise player, he could DEMAND that he be given the right to audiblize. Why doesn’t he? The answer is obvious. He doesn’t want the ACCOUNTABILITY and is unwilling to be a leader on the field that holds his teammates accountable for their shoddy play. He had rather pout, go stoop-shouldered and isolate on the bench after another 3 and out! I only care about one stat —- not how many rushing yards Vick has, or dropped passes or missed assignments —- just “W’s” and that’s what a quarterback is paid to produce. If you want the GLORY for the win, you’ve got to accept the ACCOUNTABILITY for the loss. Adios!

By Nikki

November 29, 2006 10:06 PM | Link to this

Vick’s gesture was unacceptable and the league will fine him. I think it’s more sad of what that gesture says about the state of the team/ This season is lost. There is no leadership. No WRs. No defense. No pass-blocking OL.( They can’t even run-block right now as indicated by Dunn’s stats.) Let’s move past fingergate and get the team fixed—-again.

By Dr. I.Q.

November 29, 2006 10:40 PM | Link to this

As a finance man, I like charts!

              W

W W W W L L L L L L Ugly, isn’t it? Think we ought to do something different? Duh?

By Adam

November 30, 2006 12:30 AM | Link to this

I dont think what he did was wrong he is tired of all the critcizism when hes has hella rushing yards and no interceptions the last few games. Im gonna go buy another Vick jersey just to support him and the fact is im glad hes not a puss and stands up when someone yells a racial slur.

By mo

November 30, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

Boots,

Vick does that already. He calls timeouts a lot when he sees something wrong.

The problem is that there are only a total of 6 timeouts in the game. So Vick can only change 6 plays with a timeout.

The bottom line is that you have to have the ability to audible a play. There’s no excuse for not being able to audible.

And if Vick isn’t able to audible, he can only change a play the best way he can… with his feet. And I am personally tired of seeing Vick getting beat up by scrambling and taking huge hits because his Knapp will not give him the authority to audible out of a bad play.

By Jennifer

November 30, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

Well, I remember a year or two back when we’d lose a game and everyone was mad because Mike was on the sidelines chatting with Blank and Mora and not looking appropriately down and sad.

Fast forward and Vick’s more than adequately emotionally involved with his team’s performance and he acts out.

Which do you want it? The super-cool, untouchable, institution called Michael Vick? Or the emotional teammate?

Me, I’ll take the teammate and the apology and kiss and make up.

Go Falcons!

By JJ

November 30, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

I am willing to bet that some of you on this blog are the same ones who called Henry Aaron all sorts of things. I wonder if there is a connection between him and MV.

By Swami

November 30, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

Are all you Vick-suckers going to become Raiders fans?

Looney Al Davis is going to give the Falkons draft choices to get the sorry QB.

So, get ready to vacate the Dome and move to Oakland, those of you who LUV Ronny Mex.

By ICEMAN

November 30, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

JJ,

I wonder if you’re the one that believes in the Easter Bunny. Most of these bloggers probably were’nt alive durinh Hank’s career. The only connection between Vick and Aaron is the connection that you are focused on:the color of their skin.

By Raymond Cystical

November 30, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Black vick is leaving town. Hooray! One less case of herpes to treat. Going to the Bay he can be right at home at the VD capital of the world.

By mo

November 30, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

Swami-

That rumor was started by a radio show and the Falcons are not looking to deal Mike Vick. Then some guy in the Charlotte Observer picked it up and ran it as something the Falcons are actually considering. (I didn’t know that Matt Chernoff and Chuck Smith had that kind of power.)

But, let’s play along.

If the Falcons dealt Vick to the Raiders, yes… most of us will be Raiders’ fans. There will not be anyone else on the team to root for. There will be no competitive edge for the Falcons. There will be no appeal. There will be no “sexy-ness.”

Ok. Do I need to continue? OK…

There will be no excitement to the Falcons. There will be no celebrity. There will be no intrigue. There will be no spice. There will be no big-play ability.

Ok. I’m getting tired.

See, what you don’t understand is that Mike Vick is the reason why the Falcons became an attractive buy for Arthur Blank. The Smiths went out to get Vick because they knew that without him the Falcons would not have a good draw. Vick’s draw equates to dollars.

But without Vick, there will be no appeal, and Blank will own a team that isn’t making money.

So, you see, Swami… Vick isn’t going anywhere. Until you go out and get another draw that is better than Vick, you are stuck with him in Atlanta.

By the way, even if you went out and assembled a team that went all the way to the Super Bowl, you will STILL find yourself losing money without Vick. I

n 1998, when we went to the Super Bowl, we didn’t sell out every game at home. And we had stars like Deon Sanders and Jesse Tuggle on our team. We had good wideouts like Terrance Mathis and Tony Martin. We had a bruiser back like Jamal Anderson. We had Ray Buchanan and Eugene Robinson, who were just shutdown Dbacks.

Look, we were ranked 4th in the nation in both points scored and points allowed. That team was the best team in Falcons’ history!

But we did not sell out every game.

And with Mike Vick at QB, we are. And we will next year.

So, you think Arthur Blank going to trade that away???

By Get Real.

November 30, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

I guess it never occcured to anyone that it was a Saints fan he was flipping off.

I sit in the 2nd row and THEY WERE THERE.

By Southeast Jerome from DC

November 30, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

I have read a lot of these blogs on here and have to say this is crazy. I’ve heard everything from benching/trading Vick to it’s a racial thing. If you think you all got it bad, try being a Redskins fan! Anyway, let’s be real here, flipping a fan the bird was wrong, but not the freakin’ end of the world. Pro’s have done much worse ie… Ron Artest! He apologized for what he did, now let’s move on. Benching or trading Vick is just pure-dee stupid! He is the most elusive and game changing QB’s ever. More often than not, he will win a game than lose it. The problem is two fold. 1.GET SOME RECEIVERS THAT CAN CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!!!! And not only catch the ball, get open! It’s obvious that the receivers aren’t running the patterns well enough to get open, which forces Vick to scramble. Or better yet, with so many dropped passes, he has just lost all confidence in them. 2.Build the offense (passing game) to his strengths. Move the pocket, designed rollouts, designed bootlegs. Continue to run Dunn. Stop trying to make him be something he’s not. He’ll never be a Dan Mario, Tom Brady or John Elway. Each one of those QB’s had receivers that could catch the ball. That’s how they became “Great QB’s”. Teams have figured the Falcons out. Take away the only receiver that CAN catch (Crumpler, also Vick’s favorite target) and load the box.

Defensively, injuries have killed the Falcons. That was evident when John Abraham went down. The Carolina game showed you what the defense could be. That’s also part of the reason the Falcons started 5-2.

So all this Vick bashing really needs to stop. We can always send you Mark Brunell for MV7. And the way Snyder loves to throw money around, we’ll probably double that $140 million and throw in a couple of drafts picks too.

By mike

November 30, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Ron Mexico is the greatest player of all time . oops , I meant greatest THUG!

By brownthrasher

November 30, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

FIVE REASONS TO LIKE MICHAEL VICK Why all the hatred for Michael Vick? For fantasy football owners, Vick has actually never been better than in 2006. Here are five reasons to like Vick in fantasy.

The numbers are there: Unless your league gives extra points for passing yards, the overall fantasy value of Vick is excellent. Only three quarterbacks have more ESPN fantasy points this season. Stop worrying about how Vick gets his points, or the fact he’s always been known as a highlight machine, and just be thankful he’s having a career season statistically as well.

He’s consistent: Vick has reached double digit fantasy points in every game, and topped 20 points three times. Vick doesn’t cost owners games with poor performances. In contrast, Donovan McNabb, Drew Brees and Peyton Manning, fantasy’s top three QBs, have combined for five games in single digits.

Run, Michael, run: Vick might reach 1,000 yards rushing as soon as this week. Most quarterbacks face a tough passing defense every few weeks, or weather issues, or just an off-game, but when a QB supplement his value by running, he often avoids such pitfalls. Consider that only 10 running backs have more rushing yards than Vick, and one realizes we’re seeing a special season indeed.

Big game possibility: With his seven passing touchdowns in Weeks 7-8, Vick showed us he’s capable of airing it out and throwing for big numbers, even though he’s relied on running since. In the past there was little threat of terrific passing games. If you’re going to play a fantasy QB because he might have a big game, why not play this one, who can also run like no other QB?

Motivation: The Falcons’ four-game losing streak, and watered down NFC, ensures that each game will be critical to Vick and his team. There won’t be any clinching of playoff spots early. He won’t be benched. And Vick’s recent off-field issues shouldn’t affect his on-field play negatively. Week 12 was his fourth-best fantasy game of the season, so he’s not slumping. And Atlanta’s schedule still features struggling defenses like Tampa Bay and Philly.

By jay

November 30, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this

You guys should listen to me more because I told you when they lost to the Giants that they should cut their losses w Vick and trade him to Oakland for Jerry Porter and their no.1 Look whats in SI today!!!http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/11/30/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html

By Swami

November 30, 2006 10:54 PM | Link to this

Mo, I do understand the Vick-appeal, and I agree with you insofar as: Vick is THE reason the Falcons sell out. If Vick is traded, it will be because Vick DEMANDS a trade not because Blank et al. want to get rid of him.

By Dr. I.Q.

November 30, 2006 11:12 PM | Link to this

Brownthrasher: Who cares how many yards Vick runs? They’re all between the 20’s! Who cares how many passes he completes? They’re all between the 20’s! These Birds can’t score! Thank God for our elderly place kicker!

By Boots

November 30, 2006 11:35 PM | Link to this

**Three of the next four games are on the road. If the Birds are not properly prepared with fire in their bellies, they’re gonna run into a buzz-saw at Fed-X stadium in Washington. I’d like to see MV7 fire this team up with strong leadership on the field. I’d like to see the OLine give him time to check off and find open receivers. I’d like to see the WR’s put some sticky on their fingers. I’d like to see touchdowns, instead of field goals. I’d like to see the defense putting pressure on the quarterback. I’d like to see the secondary SHOW UP FOR GAWD’S SAKE and QUIT GIVING UP THE BIG PLAY! I’d like to see the Birds get back on track. BUT IT AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE NOBODY HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE AFTER FOUR ABYSMAL LOSSES! I HOPE THEY PROVE ME WRONG, BUT THERE IS NO DOWN SIDE TO MEDIOCRITY IF NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR POOR PERFORMANCES WEEK AFTER WEEK. MAKE ME EAT MY WORDS!—- Adios!

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