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August 2007

Forney, Robinson will be ready

Bobby Petrino just wrapped up his press conference. It was the first time he used the media room podium since the first day of training camp, there was a lot of interest in getting his comments before the team left for New York. Typically he just answers a few questions from reporters while coming off the practice field.

He said that the offense you’ll see on Friday night will be a vanilla version of what to expect during the regular season. He’s still keeping the advanced stuff under wraps until the games count for real.

He made an interesting comment about D.J. Shockley. He was asked if he had settled on a quarterback rotation behind Joey Harrington. That was a decision he said would be discussed with the other coaches sometime this afternoon. But he said that coaches are eager to see Shockley in live action since his strengths aren’t necessarily revealed during practices. Right now, Redman has been taking a lot of reps with the twos and has looked more consistent than Shockley, but Petrino reminded that Shockley’s strength is making plays and using his speed when plays break down. He has a huge edge in that department over Redman. That’ll be something to watch for on Friday night.

I grabbed Laurent Robinson and Kynan Forney after practice and both said they’re ready to go on Friday. Right now, the only players Petrino confirmed would miss the first preseason game was Alge Crumpler, Rod Coleman and Warrick Dunn.

Robinson admitted that yesterday, his hamstring injury was on his mind throughout the whole practice. After a chat with Petrino, Robinson is moving on.

“I hated missing practice, I felt terrible,” Robinson said. “It’s still a little tender, but that’s part of being tough and playing with injuries.”

As for Forney, he confirmed that the back is something he’s been dealing with for awhile. But, like Robinson, he’s soldiering on.

“You know, it’s alright. I still have a little bit of stuff but I’m working through it,” Forney said. “It’s just one of those things — just like any injury in camp, you just have to get over the hump.”

One final note — Petrino was asked if he was nervous about making his rookie debut as a NFL coach on Friday. The straight-laced coach cracked a smile, and said he thought he’d be okay.

“I hope I don’t hyperventilate like some of those rookies do,” he said.

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One last practice day before New York

Today will be the last day of blogging from training camp before Friday’s preseason game against the Jets. The Falcons travel to New York on Thursday so there won’t be any player availability then.

Demorrio Williams said he was fine yesterday after diving after a tipped ball and hitting the ground hard, we’ll see if he’s out there today. We’ll also monitor the Laurent Robinson injury. Petrino said he wasn’t 100 percent yesterday, but added this after yesterday’s practice: “I think he’s going to be fine by Friday. He took a lot of reps today. He is a tough young man. It is not his first injury so he will be able to fight through it and go. We definitely are going to get him some work on Friday.”

Kynan Forney is another player to keep an eye on. He didn’t practice yesterday after his back tightened up during a morning meeting. It’ll be a good sign if he’s back at it today. Alge Crumpler continues to ease back into action after a frustrating setback last week. Yesterday he worked the stationary bike outside pretty hard, we’ll see if he does any more than that today.

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Back sidelines Forney

Guard Kynan Forney didn’t practice today because his back tightened up a little bit during a meeting this morning.

“[Forney] worked real hard yesterday, I thought he was going to be able to go today,” Petrino said. “It’s going to be a work in progress, but it’s in better shape than it was a year ago, so that’s a good thing.

While Forney suffered a minor setback, Petrino was encouraged with the return of Laurent Robinson, the rookie wideout who is having a strong camp. Petrino said he’s still not 100 percent after tweaking his hamstring over the weekend.

One of the more interesting stories of camp is the play of Noriaki Kinoshita, who has held his own out there. The rookie wide receiver from Japan will get some playing time on Friday and has caught Petrino’s eye.

“He’s been getting more and more reps each day,” Petrino said. “He’s starting to learn what he’s doing. He’s done a nice job working hard.”

Petrino was also asked about what he’ll be looking for in his first preseason game with the Falcons. He spoke about the usual things on defense — everybody getting to the ball, solid tackling etc. Offensively, it’s all about tempo.

“I want to see our tempo in and out of the huddle, how we do at the line of scrimmage. I’d like to have zero times when we’re in trouble with the clock,” he said.

Lastly, I got confirmation that Demorrio Williams was fine after hitting the ground hard while diving to pick of a D.J. Shockley pass. It’s becoming pretty obvious that Williams only knows one speed.

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Shockley throws a pair of INTs

D.J. Shockley struggled his way through a 7-on-7 session just now. He threw a pair of interceptions and Demorrio Williams just missed another when he dove after a tipped ball.

Cornerback Antoine Harris got the first one and Allen Rossum the second.

Bobby Petrino has been saying all camp that the challenge with Williams is slowing him down. Here’s a guy who had surgery to repair a torn pectoral muscle, and he’s stretched-out diving to pick off a pass during a passing drill. But he got up okay and didn’t seem to show any signs of injury.

Another quick note before they wrap up here, CB Brent Grimes was practicing. I haven’t seen him out there all camp, so that is a positive development for a promising young DB. Also, Kynan Forney isn’t practicing. I’ll let you know what the word on Forney is after Petrino addresses the media.

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Harrington working on short game

Just wanted to jump on here real quick and give you an injury update. Looks like a lot of the crew that missed yesterday’s a.m. practice is back at it. The most notable is rookie wide receiver Laurent Robinson. Robinson missed time with a tweaked hamstring suffered during Saturday’s morning session and is on the field today.

Robinson looked good in the first practice session, taking a short Joey Harrington pass over the middle and turning on the burners.

Speaking of Harrington, he completed five of six passes during a session I just finished watching. He wasn’t exactly stretching the defense however, most of the passes were short, quick-hitters. Here’s the breakdown:

- 1-for-1 after a 10-15 yard out to Adam Jennings, who made a nice catch.
- 1-for-2 after an incompletion that was way off to Roddy White. Looked like a miscommunication between Harrington and White because the ball was sailing toward the sideline while White was running downfield.
- 2-for-3 after a dump-off to Dwayne Blakley, who by the way, is huge.
- 3-for-4 after the short completion over the middle to Robinson.
- 4-for-5 and 5-for-6 — quick completions over the middle to Michael Jenkins.

It’s worth noting that those passes weren’t against the No. 1 defense.

After that they broke into special teams. Nothing too earth shattering to report there. Jennings and Allen Rossum took turns returning kicks with the first-team kick return. But truthfully, the most impressive person out there was Ovie Mughelli. Rossum has to be looking forward to running behind him when returning kicks. He’s a load, and the last thing I’d want to see is him coming at me with a 30-yard head start.

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One less kicker to watch

There will be another new body in camp today during today’s sweltering afternoon open practice. And we’ll have one less kicker to watch after the Falcons cut Aaron Elling before yesterday’s evening practice. Billy Cundiff has looked pretty good in practice and as of right now, the team seems content to give him the job for now. This doesn’t mean he’s off the hook however, he’ll still need to perform during the preseason.

Steve Wyche has speculated in the past that the Falcons might add a veteran running back and they did just that with Arlen Harris. Harris is another depth guy brought in to give the starters a breather as the preseason draws closer. Don’t read anything into Harris’ signing as far as Warrick Dunn’s injury goes.

Big Green: I haven’t seen a lot of Lang Campbell out there. He’s getting very few reps with the fourth team, especially with Bobby Petrino trying to get Joey Harrington ready and at the same time get a good look at D.J. Shockley and Chris Redman. But expect Campbell to get some time in the first preseason game against the Jets.

Duff: Tony Taylor has worked his way up to the No. 2 spot at MLB and is having a good camp. You’ll also see a lot of him on the special teams.

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Houston ready for debut

Free safety Chris Crocker and cornerback Chris Houston were back at practice this morning after both missed time this weekend with minor knee injuries. Crocker was with the first team at safety, although Jimmy Williams got plenty of work today, as usual. Lewis Sanders spent most of the time working with the first team at right corner.

Crocker made a nice play on an interception when the offense was working at the goalline. He stepped right in front of a Joey Harrington pass to cause the turnover.

I grabbed Houston after practice to chat about his first preseason game coming up and the competition with Sanders at the corner. Here’s what he had to say:

Houston on making his NFL preseason debut on Friday: “I’m just ready to see what the NFL is about. The practice tempo is faster — I know in the game it’s going to be even faster. I’m just ready to see how I fit in the NFL.”

On practices getting more intense: “There’s a little more focus on our jobs because it’s coming [close] to the game. We’re trying to polish up everything so there aren’t too many mistakes.”

On the battle at right corner with Sanders: “It’s going good. I’m just learning from Lou. I’m watching him and learning from D-Hall. To me it’s not a battle because I’m learning. [Sanders] has been in the league a long time, I can’t take anything away from him. I’m just learning form him. He’s helping me out.”

The best advice he’s gotten from Hall?“Just relax when I’m out there. You’re a corner, they’re going to catch balls, but it’s how you respond.”

There were a few players held out of practice besides the usuals like Warrick Dunn and Rod Coleman. Alge Crumpler didn’t practice (more on him in a minute), neither did Laurent Robinson, Brent Grimes, Jeramie Johnson, Eric Newman and Omare Lowe.

The interesting one to me is Robinson. He was having a great camp, and there’s a lot of anticipation to see how his debut will go on Friday. But according to Bobby Petrino, Robinson tweaked his hamstring during Saturday’s morning practice and the trainer wanted to keep him out for now.

“He doesn’t think it’s anything serious,” Petrino said. “Right now he’d be a day-to-day situation.

As for Crumpler, he got his knee looked at again on Friday and the doctor is recommending that he sit out at least another week. The MRI showed that there was some progress healing, but Petrino said Crumpler was getting frustrated when some of the pain returned.

Petrino admitted that there is some concern with the missed practice time.

“We were hoping it’d go smoother than it did. It’s just a healing process,” Petrino said.

There was a scare towards the end of practice when running backs coach Ollie Wilson went down during a drill. Players and coaches immediately called for the medics nearby and they rushed out to help him. Evidently, he’s been fighting a virus and overheated. Petrino was quick to leave the field after post-practice interviews because he wanted to get an update, but he was told Wilson was doing fine.

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Positional battles heat up

After a light day on Sunday the team is back at it in earnest this morning in Flowery Branch. It’s a big week of practice since that first preseason game is closing in quickly.

By all accounts, the Midtown Touchdown practice was a success on Saturday, but it’s down to business this week. It’s a big time for the battles going on in the secondary. Chris Crocker and Chris Houston both missed practice this weekend because of minor knee issues. Both are expected to be back out there this morning, I’ll let you know how they look.

Meanwhile, Steve Wyche’s story today on Jimmy Williams does a good job breaking down the battle at free safety. At corner, Lewis Sanders had a good practice Saturday morning and will look to build on that this week.

I’ll get my first look today at Tony Franklin, a veteran signed to add some depth to the secondary.

Since Friday’s blog, two offensive linemen were taken out of the picture. Rookie center Doug Datish was put on injured reserve and he’ll be out for the season (broken hand). The team released veteran guard Toniu Fonoti who was battling some injuries. I think that move says a lot about what the team thinks of Justin Blalock, who has done a nice job since missing the first day of training camp during contract negotiations. We’ll see where things settle today as far as the O-line depth chart goes.

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Datish scheduled for Monday surgery

Practice just wrapped up. First, I wanted to get into some injury news. Backup center Doug Datish, a sixth-round pick from Ohio State, didn’t practice because of a broken bone in his wrist. Datish is scheduled to have surgery on Monday, and the team at this point is uncertain how long he’ll be out.

Before the injury, Datish had dropped behind Todd McClure and P.J. Alexander on the depth chart at center, so the timing isn’t too good for the former Buckeye.

Veteran linebacker Keith Brooking was scheduled to practice today, but sat out because of some soreness in his knee. He has tendinitis, so to be safe he was held out of Friday’s practice. Petrino hopes he’ll be back out there shortly.

Darrell Shropshire missed practice again, evidently his tweaked groin is bothering him a little more than originally thought. He worked in shorts and a t-shirt on a side field with Rod Coleman, doing some agility drills and hitting the sled.

After practice, Bobby Petrino gave this assessment of the first full week of training camp: “I like the way the players have approached it; the way they’re serious in the meetings, coming out here, working hard. We have to get more consistent. We have periods within the practice where one side of the ball looks good, and the next period the other side looks good. We have to get where we’re executing consistently on both sides of the ball and have great competition in every drill.”

Other entries from today’s practice:

- Shockley having a great practice

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Shockley having great practice

When I got back on the field after the last blog update, the team was scrimmaging. Either I missed Chris Redman completely, or Joey Harrington and D.J. Shockley were the only two quarterbacks to run the offense. Either way, Shockley looked good in this session. He’s having a great practice.

Shockley finished the session 4-for-5 passing including a deep corner to Adam Jennings - who is also having a good practice today. Shockley connected on a deep ball to Jamin Elliott, and he rolled out twice to his right for completions to tight end George Cooper and Eric Weems.

On his only incompletion, 5-foot-10 (as listed on the roster) Noriaki Kinoshita stayed in to block and get smushed by an unidentified defender. One observer who saw the whole thing happen remarked: “I didn’t know the human body could bend in that way.” Kinoshita has shown good hands and quickness so far in training camp, but I’m not sure he’s a guy I’m keeping back to block.

Meanwhile, two fields over, Rod Coleman was working some agility drills in shorts and a t-shirt. He’s got that quad injury, but looked like he was moving pretty good.

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Redman working with the twos

The Falcons just wrapped up the first team scrimmaging session. For those following the free safety battle, Jimmy Williams was out there with the ones and looked fine. He did get beat deep pretty bad by Michael Jenkins during an earlier drill but held his own in scrimmaging.

As far as the offense goes, Joey Harrington obviously was the quarterback with the first team, but it was Chris Redman who came out with the second team. He took five reps at quarterback, completing one of five passes. He missed Joe Horn underneath on one play and an open Adam Jennings deep on another. It wasn’t Redman’s best session.

After that Shockley came out and took three snaps. One was a running play, and he completed both his pass attempts, although both were short pass plays. He swung one to a running back who I couldn’t identify from our spot in the media bleachers and another short pass to Noriaki Kinoshita.

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Petrino doesn’t mind the heat

It’s hot. How’s that for an update from training camp? But that’s fine with Bobby Petrino who when I asked him about concerns about the heat, said he loved it. At the time, he said they need as many hot days of practice as possible so I’m sure he’s not too upset about the weather. Officially, weather.com says it’s 90 degrees, but feels like 92. No, weather.com, it feels a lot hotter than that.

It’s an open practice today, and it starts in about 10 minutes. I just wanted to offer up a quick reminder for those who can’t make the drive to Flowery Branch for training camp. The Falcons will be moving things downtown on Saturday for the Midtown Touchdown festival. There will be a training camp practice at Grady Stadium as well as autograph opportunities, interactive games and all that other stuff. It starts at 3 p.m. at Piedmont Park. Music lovers should note that Monica will be performing at at 4 p.m. on the main stage at Piedmont Park.

The festivities at Piedmont Park are free, but it costs $7 to watch practice at Grady - although you should know that benefits go towards the school’s athletic programs and stadium upkeep.

Alright, enough plugging for the team. Let me get to a few responses from your comments from yesterday before I head out into the heat:

Mike Wright: Vincent Marshall has looked pretty good out there at wide receiver. He’s little - listed at 5-foot-8, 175 pounds and the Falcons are pretty deep at WR. He’s a longshot for sure, but he hasn’t done anything to hurt himself. The preseason games will be big for him.

TheeDr: Having watched more Detroit Lions games than I’d like to admit, I’m very familiar with the Harrington check down on third and long. In his defense, he said that offense didn’t suit him. We’ll see if Petrino’s is a better fit.

SC: I appreciate the comments. Let me know if there’s anything more specific you want to see.

Rod: Right now, the reps are split pretty evenly between Shockley and Redman. I agree, Shockley has more upside at the QB position, but Redman is familiar with the offense and hasn’t looked bad in training camp. That’s another battle that will be one to watch in preseason. I’ll let you know what I see out there today. Maybe I need to start counting reps.

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Harrington loving the new offense

This morning was a fairly quick practice for the Falcons, and Bobby Petrino used it as an opportunity to rest a couple veterans and a few others with nagging injuries. Alge Crumpler, Wayne Gandy, Kynan Forney (stiff back), Lawyer Milloy and Darrell Shropshire (groin) all joined Warrick Dunn and Rod Coleman on the sideline.

Petrino’s focus this morning was on tempo and kept things moving with a 40-second clock between plays. He said, other than one play, he was satisfied with the ability of the offense to keep up.

Joey Harrington addressed the media after the practice and again praised the new system. It’s becoming pretty obvious that Harrington wasn’t a fan of the offense he was running in Detroit, but he’s liking what he sees so far from Petrino’s offense.

“It was a bit difficult to pick up initially,” he explained. “But now, it’s great. I love it. It’s by far my favorite offense I’ve played for in the NFL.”

He also complimented the group of receivers he’s working with. Laurent Robinson continues to have a great camp. It seems like every time there is an impressive catch from the group of wide receivers, you look and it’s No. 19 making the play. I know this is a group that took a lot of heat last season because of dropped passes, but the addition of Joe Horn to go with a talent like Robinson should really help.

Harrington called Robinson a “tremendous” receiver, pointing out that his huge strides close the gap real quickly between him and a defender.

“And he’s open to criticism and open to learning,” Harrington pointed out, two positives you have to like from a rookie.

For the first time that I’ve noticed, there were officials out on the practice field during scrimmaging. Petrino said they were just there to answer questions from players and keep everything within the rules.

Lastly, as we continue to follow positional battles, I spoke to defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer about the play of Jimmy Williams who is battling Chris Crocker at free safety and thought his response was pretty candid.

“Jimmy’s got great range,” Zimmer said. “He’s really a good kid and he’s trying to learn everything. Sometimes he’ll get a little brain lock like all of the do. They get a little tired so we have to pick up his focus and intensity. I like a lot of the things that he does. We just have to keep the nail on him all the time. Not because he’s lackadaisical, but because he’ll go to sleep on you and that position, going to sleep is not a good thing.”

No, it’s not.

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Falcons seek offensive balance

Two practices today, and the 9 a.m. session is just getting underway. I’m working on a defensive line story for Friday’s paper, so I’ll be watching guys like Grady Jackson, Tommy Jackson and Jonathan Babineaux pretty closely. Darrell Shropshire didn’t practice yesterday because of a groin injury - we’ll see if he’s out there today.

While driving up to Flowery Branch, I was interested in listening to an interview with Warrick Dunn on 790. Dunn was pretty candid, both in his assessment of training camp (basically, no player likes it) and the coaching staff from last season. He spoke about the importance of getting more balance in the offense this year, especially at the goalline.

Basically, he said, once the team got close to the endzone, everybody in the stadium knew the Falcons were going to run the ball.

Under Bobby Petrino, Dunn doesn’t think that will be the case. Expect a more balanced offense this year, something Petrino addressed after practice yesterday.

“We need to be as balanced as we can on first and ten and between run and pass plays…. We can’t just run the ball and we can’t just throw the ball,” Petrino told reporters.

He also stressed the importance of having Joey Harrington look downfield to keep defenses honest.

“I think it is going to be paramount if we can throw the ball deep too,” Petrino said. “Teams are going to drop safeties down and blitz early on us, so we are going to have to hit some big plays down the field.”

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A ban on Big Blue?

Some observations from the last portion of practice:

  • You can take the coach out of Louisville, but…. A cameraman for Comcast was wearing a blue Kentucky shirt, and Petrino asked for a question to be repeated as he jokingly stared down the Kentucky supporter. “You see that shirt he’s got on?” Petrino asked in mock disgust. “Unbelivable. That’s unbelievable.” Then he asked for the question to be repeated. “Sorry,” Petrino said. “I was distracted by that ugly shirt.”

  • Keith Brooking is itching to hit. It’s obvious while watching the team scrimmage that the veteran linebacker is ready to go. You won’t be seeing full-contact anytime soon during training camp, but Brooking got a pretty good lick in on Jerious Norwood.

  • Those tracking the Jimmy Williams battle against Chris Crocker for the starting job at free safety might be interested in the fact that Williams hardly left the field during scrimmaging. They’re getting a good look at the second-year DB from Virginia Tech.

  • P.J. Alexander was working with the No. 2s at center signaling he’s moved ahead of Doug Datish, in the battle to back up starting center Todd McClure. Datish is a sixth-round pick from Ohio State.

  • In the last bit of action, D.J. Shockley was working with the third-team behind Joey Harrington and Chris Redman, although I wouldn’t read too much into it. Shockley and Redman have been getting pretty equal reps behind Harrington. That being said, Shockley made two nice throws during his work with the 3s. One was a deep out to Jamin Elliott, that showed off his arm strength. The second was completion to Noriaki Kinoshita right on Kinoshita’s break. Speaking of Kinoshita, I have no idea if this guy has any chance of breaking camp, but the 5-10, 179-pound Osaka, Japan native is a lot of fun to watch. He’s quick, and has potential to help the kick return game.

  • Darrell Shropshire missed practice with what Bobby Petrino called a twinge in his groin. That’s not good news for the middle of the D-line, a spot on the defense already thinned out by injury. Tommy Jackson got some extra work today with Shropshire on the sideline.

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Horn leads spirited drills

It’s been about 30 minutes since practice started and wanted to jump in here and give a quick training camp update. And it has nothing to do with the air conditioning. Really, it doesn’t.

From where they were letting us observe, I had the best view of the group of wide receivers. The first drill the wideouts worked on was catching passes thrown behind them. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the teams confidence in the quarterbacks in camp. The key phrase for this drill was ‘stop and pivot.’ The coaches were stressing that the pass they were working on was dropped more than any other. The only wideout to drop a catchable pass was Roddy White.

Later, the media and some gathered fans had a front-row view of the wide receivers working with the Jugs machine firing footballs at the players from a few feet away. In a camp that has been curiously quiet from the players perspective, this drill had a ton of spirit.

It was Joe Horn who led the shouting. His leadership is huge for guys like Michael Jenkins and Roddy White and you could tell it was rubbing off, especially on Jenkins. Guys were yelling each other on, it was good stuff. Nobody dropped a pass, which is pretty impressive because they moved closer and closer to balls being fired at them. Man, Roddy White is smooth. He made this drill look effortless. There was only one bobbled pass, which led one observer to remark: “If they would have caught the ball like this last season, they would have won the Super Bowl.”

The other focus of the early session of practice was special teams, although they were really just going through the motions. Billy Cundiff and Michael Koenen shared duties kicking off. Japanese import Noriaki Kinoshita showed some quickness the couple times he touched the ball. Alright, I’m headed back into the heat.

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Petrino: White having a good camp

Today is a 3:25 p.m. session and open to the public so we’re about to get started here shortly. After focusing on the tight ends yesterday, I’m turning my attention to the defensive line. We’ll keep an eye on Jamaal Anderson, like we have all camp. But specifically, I’m interested in the battles going on behind guys like Grady Jackson and Rod Coleman.

I was reading over the transcript from Bobby Petrino’s post-practice interview from yesterday and was interested in a couple comments he made that we didn’t use in our coverage.

The first is concerning the battle between Jimmy Williams and Chris Crocker. According to Petrino, both are doing a better job learning the system. He said this about Williams: “Jimmy is showing the range that we thought he would in terms of getting to the ball.”

Crocker has been practicing a lot with the nickel package as well. This should be one of the better positional battles as we close in on the preseason.

I’m also interested in the wide receivers. I read some comments from fans wondering if Roddy White was having a bad camp, and that hasn’t been the case. Earlier I wrote that he should be nervous because of the emergence of Laurent Robinson. But that had more to do with Robinson than White’s performance. In fact, both players have caught Petrino’s eye.

“I think Roddy White has had a really good camp so far,” Petrino said. “He’s thinner, he’s faster and he’s showing us he can catch the ball well.”

As for Robinson, Petrino said he’s been impressed with the rookie, although coaches are waiting to see if he hits a rookie wall after such a good start.

“Robinson is showing a lot of ability to make plays and he is also very mature and smart so the offense has not been hard for him,” Petrino said.

Steve Wyche wrote about Adam Jennings in today’s paper, so he’s got you covered there.

Joe Horn and Michael Jenkins are still entrenched as the starters, but the battle behind him has been a good one.

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