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DEL.ICIO.USFalcons’ QB rotation to be set today for preseason opener
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Flowery Branch - Falcons coach Mike Smith said earlier this week that the quarterback rotation for Saturday’s preseason opener vs. Jacksonville would be set today.
Though he may not start, it would seem likely that first-round pick Matt Ryan will get extended playing time. With Atlanta wanting to see how he handles NFL pressure, it wouldn’t be shocking to see him play early and for a prolonged period.
Smith knows Jacksonville’s personnel and how head coach Jack Del Rio likely will scheme a game like this since he spent five years coaching with Del Rio in Jacksonville. So Smith will probably know when and how to best use Ryan.
As soon as I hear something, I’ll update this blog and I’m sure there will be some stories about it on AJC.com also.
Editor’s Note: Steve Wyche has reported that coach Mike Smith will wait until after this afternoon’s practice before deciding on the QB rotation - and other personnel moves. Click here for the story.
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By LoftonDawg
August 7, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
If D.J. Shockley is not starting (and playing for AT LEAST a half), this will indicate that Coach Smith - like other coaches before him, is not giving DJ a fair shot.
Everyone knows that DJ should be starting and it only makes sense because (a) he is a bulldog and (b) he is following in the footsteps of Mike Vick so the transition should be much easier.
I know that because the Falcons paid ryan so much money, they are not willing to concede that he is a bust, but they must realize what I, and the rest of the DAWG NATION, have seen and heard and that is it is DJ’s time now.
He was a dominant QB in college and he has only improved since becoming a pro. He is clearly the most mobile guy with the strongest, most accurate arm.
I, for one, can not wait to see DJ go in and absolutely take over - just like he did in college.
DJ is the breath of fresh air that this Falcons franchise has been waiting for and if Arthur Blank knows what is good for him, and he wants to fill the dome up with 80,000 screaming DAWG FANS, he will start DJ Shockley - the best quarterback on the Falcons.
GO DAWGS!
GO SHOCKLEY!
By Who cares?
August 7, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
Who cares? The Falcons are terrible. It amazes me that people actually care about them.
I gave up my season tickets last year when I realized that I could buy 1/2 price tickets on craigslist.
Again, who cares?
By ShockleyWho?
August 7, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
LoftonDawg, Can I please have some of the weed you and Mike Vick, Marcus Vick, and DJ are smoking???
By TURTSNAP
August 7, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
Everyone knows DJ should be starting? Who is everybody? I am as huge a Dawg fan as anyone else, but even I don’t think that DJ should start. I hope like heck he makes the team, don’t get me wrong, but you cannot say that DJ is the best QB on the team. You have nothing to base that on yet. LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!
By Bruce
August 7, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Easy there LD. I love the Dawgs as much as anyone. However, the Falcons cannot give DJ the QB job simply because he’s a Bulldog, or because he’s following in the footsteps of MV. Also, to say that Ryan is a bust before he even plays a down is premature to say the least.
I am pleasantly surprised that the Falcons are leaving the QB job open for competition. That in itself gives DJ a fair shot.
Go Falcons!
By TURTSNAP
August 7, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
So Who Cares, if you don’t “care”, why are you on a Falcons blog site, or do you always waste your time doing things you don’t care about?
By MIke
August 7, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
Shockley starting for the Falcons? Take off the red colored glasses….he seems like he would be a perfect emergency QB but has no business starting in the NFL.
Why should he start? because he was a good college QB? Well, David Greene, Chris Leak, Colt Brennan, Charlie Ward, Danny Wurffel, Josh Hypel, Tee Martin, etc were all good to great college QBs with many awards and accolades but that does not mean they have any business starting in the NFL.
Start Redman and give Harrington and Ryan the rest of the reps. DJ could help with the scout team if need be.
Oh, yea….how is Ryan a bust so far? They have not even played a preseason game yet?
By Bob
August 7, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
What has DJ ever done in the NFL…why are are you Gerogia fans so blind to the truth? Yes DJ was a good QB at Georgia but this is the NFL. Let him prove he deserves a shot then we can start talking about him starting. DJ will be just like David Greene a back-up in the NFL if he makes the team. Stop living in the past Georgia fan this is the NFL not Georgia!!!
By MattFan
August 7, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
This NOT the UGA Dawgs! This the Atlanta Falcons. If DJ Shockless starts, I am giving up my season tickets!
By MattFan
August 7, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
This NOT the UGA Dawgs! This is the Atlanta Falcons. If DJ Shockless starts, I am giving up my season tickets!
By Bubba
August 7, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
I think Shockley should be given a fair shot. He played well at UGA (a school I didn’t attend), demonstrated that can play. Is he better than Ryan, Redman or Harrington? Dunno. I, for one, would be interested in finding out.
By Ryan Chambers
August 7, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
DJ should start? What about his last seven out of eight seasons of football? Should he have started then, too? Because, for some reasons, those coaches, from UGA to the pros, also found reasons “not to give DJ a fair shot,” (using your words).
By J.T.
August 7, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
LoftonDawg,
Do you even watch pro football? It does not sound like it. You do realize that there are incredible differences between the NFL and college football right!? You don’t make any real point except that: (a)you are a bulldog fan and (b)you don’t realize that there is a new offensive cordinator and a new offensive system in place in Atlanta. You can’t be that stupid. You need to realize that the Falcons and the Bulldogs are two diffent teams. They are not even in the same city. Use your head and not your heart when you are putting an opinion on someone elses job. How can you say that Ryan is a bust when he hasn’t even taken a snap at the NFL level yet?
By QueDogTeaching
August 7, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Here’s the bigger question for me. Why is Brian Finneran becoming one of the faces of Atlanta Falcon football on AirTran billboards?
Matt Ryan 1st round draft pick, definitely. Keith Brooking team leader, of course. But Brian Finneran, What?
By ShockleySux
August 7, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
DJ Shockley sucks, come on! We need a Quarterback with brains, which is Matt Ryan!
By ga_dawg77
August 7, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Please just send Harrington packing….
By sathefari
August 7, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Falcons don’t need Dawg fans or Vick fans. Dawg fans can go and watch Georgia games, and Vick fans can go visit him in jail.
Who cares who starts at QB, as long as the team plays hard and wins, that will define whether or not the dome sells out.
By Milton Jeff
August 7, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
Mike: you make some good points about former great college qbs who did nothing w/ the nfl careers. While I am a Dawg fan, I say give him a shot. At this point, I would say anybody has a decent shot. But we won’t know Shockley’s skills if we don’t see him play. MattFan: What if Shockley starts and beats out the competition?
By pete
August 7, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
It makes no difference………ZERO……..who starts at QB for this first pre season game. Let’s hope for no injuries.
By adam
August 7, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
I can promise you this. If 80,000 “Screaming Dawg” fans came to the dome. I would cancel my season tickets. The bulldogs are the height of low class fans. And this is from years of experience hanging out in athens bars. And no im not a tech fan. Go FALCONS!!!
By sayitloud82
August 7, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
DJ should be given a fair shot just like the other three candidates. Many teams don’t even carry a number three quarterback anymore. If the Falcons are going to have three on the roster, DJ would make the most sense as the emergency/project quarterback. Harrington LOST the starting job last year to Redman. Both Redman and Harrington give you the same type of quarterback with the same chance to win. In our current scenario, one has to give the starting nod to Redman because he played better last year by WINNING the job. Ryan is obviously going to be the number two back-up because the team has invested millions of dollars into him. I don’t see this as a DJ/Harrington battle for third. If Harrington is going to find a place on this team, he has to beat out Redman who has the same skill set.
By mark
August 7, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Some of you assume that DJ isn’t an NFL qb. How do you know? He’s done decent when he’s actually given the chance. He won a championship in the hardest conference in college football, as a 1 year starter. My point is this. Matt Ryan is obviously the future of this team. However, you know what your gonna get our of Harrington and Redman. A lot of you are so quick to discard DJ but you don’t really know the potential that DJ could posses. Give Ryan a half and DJ a half each. Your going to suck with any of the 4. Why not split your time between Ryan and DJ.
By edward
August 7, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
How did Shockley miss 7 seasons?? He joined the Falcons 2 years ago! I think he is a good QB, maybe not a starter, but a reliable backup. And give Harrington a chance????? I think we tried that. ALOT of teams have. He isn’t panning out. I say keep Shockley,Redman, and Ryan. Start Redman and have the other 2 back him up. Coach Smith already likes DJ cause he is the only mobile QB we have. That helps him out already. Ryan is a bust??? Maybe we should see him play in a game first. I am a Dawg fan too, but I know that doesn’t mean they should start every player. As for DJ being like MV…GAWD I HOPE NOT!!!
By PTC DAWG
August 7, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Not ALL UGA fans are blind to the truth. I hope DJ makes the team, and gets a shot to play. But to say “everyone knows” he should be starting is stretching the facts for sure.
By bmont
August 7, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
all of you delusional dawg/dj shockley fans need to give it up. that dude is not a starting nfl qb. he’s a back up at best. it’s redmon’s job to lose and ryan is next in line.
By mb
August 7, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
DJ will get plenty of play time and in my opinion should be the starter going in to the regular season; however, as soon as Coach Smith feels that Ryan is ready to lead this team, DJ will move to the #2 spot.
By Bob
August 7, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
All I would ask is that ALL of the quarterbacks be given a shot. I PERSONALLY prefer D.J. Shockley because I am a Dawgs fan and have a good idea what he at least could do before he was injured. He was at least as good a college player as Matt Ryan playing in a much more difficult conference. And I have watched almost every Falcons game - since the very beginning!
By edward
August 7, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
Adam, how does hanging out in Athens bars make you an expert on Georgia fans? All that does is make you a drunk with ALOT of time on your hands
By JD
August 7, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
DJ is like all the other QBs that have played for Georgia not counting Tarkanton just not good enough to start in the NFL.Don’t get me wrong i am a Georgia fan just telling it like it is.I say start Matt Ryan and lets see if he’s NFL quality
By Johnny H
August 7, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
While I don’t think that Shockley should be given the starting job (remember he missed all of last season), I think he should make the team. Ryan will obviously make it based on potential (and money), but why do we need both Redman and Harrington. They are essentially the same QB. I can’t see anyone thinking that Joey Harrington is either the present or the future of this team. He isn’t terrible, and last year wasn’t totally his fault, but there is no reason to keep him on the team. Shockley has the legs and the arm (not the height) to give him a shot to either help his team win or at least give the fans a show. Hey, this season, all we may want is a show.
By edward
August 7, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Adam, how does hanging out in Athens bars make you an expert on Georgia fans? All that does is make you a drunk with ALOT of time on your hands
By Johnny H
August 7, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
While I don’t think that Shockley should be given the starting job (remember he missed all of last season), I think he should make the team. Ryan will obviously make it based on potential (and money), but why do we need both Redman and Harrington. They are essentially the same QB. I can’t see anyone thinking that Joey Harrington is either the present or the future of this team. He isn’t terrible, and last year wasn’t totally his fault, but there is no reason to keep him on the team. Shockley has the legs and the arm (not the height) to give him a shot to either help his team win or at least give the fans a show. Hey, this season, all we may want is a show.
By Johnny H
August 7, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
While I don’t think that Shockley should be given the starting job (remember he missed all of last season), I think he should make the team. Ryan will obviously make it based on potential (and money), but why do we need both Redman and Harrington. They are essentially the same QB. I can’t see anyone thinking that Joey Harrington is either the present or the future of this team. He isn’t terrible, and last year wasn’t totally his fault, but there is no reason to keep him on the team. Shockley has the legs and the arm (not the height) to give him a shot to either help his team win or at least give the fans a show. Hey, this season, all we may want is a show.
By 82DAWG
August 7, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Guys, DJ is not going to get a shot. The organization has nothing invested in him and the coach who drafted him was two administrations ago. Harrington and Redmon are not going anywhere. It wish it were not so, but, sadly that is the case.
By Sicem
August 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
I like Shockley and think he could be a starter in the NFL someday but if one of the reasons you think he should start now is that he is following in the footsteps of Vick ?! Well that is the last thing the young man should do! I dont think Shockley would look good in stainless steel braclets or prison orange LOL! Give it up on Vick the team is headed in a different and better direction. GO FALCONS!!
By TJ
August 7, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Bob:
You lose all credibilty when you state that DJ “was as good a college player as Matt Ryan.” That statement is a joke.
Just when I that that dawgs fans knew something about football, I see all of this nonsense being spewed by ignorant “Dawg fans.”
DJ shockley is what he is: a late round draft pick struggling to hang on with an NFL team.
Matt Ryan was a 3 years starter, ACC player of the year, Archie Manning Award winner who was drafted 3rd overall in the NFL draft and the future of the Falcons - for better or worse.
“Dawg” fans need to either get on board with the Falcons team concept or go back to watching college football.
GO FALCONS!
By Beretta
August 7, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
So far, I don’t believe the coaching staff has done anything to make any of us think the competition isn’t fair. I am solidly in Coach Smith’s corner, and I believe he will put the players on the field who give us the bast chance to win, regardless of what any of us “experts” have to say on this blog.
That said, DJ is a hard worker and great guy, and I hope he makes the team. I’ll be on the edge of my seat Saturday night with hot wings and cold beer chearing for OUR Atlanta Falcons. A shoutout to everyone in Section 313… see you soon!
By Darrin "The Vent King"
August 7, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Just get rid of “Slowey” Joey Harrington PUH-LEASE!!! He can’t do squat and has the heart of a sleeping puppy. Just seeing that guy collecting NFL paychecks make me wanna puke especially when its my Falcons paying him. He IS terrible and it doesn’t have to totally be his fault to say he was the a big enough factor for the Falcons to be done with him. He was a loser in Detroit, a loser in Miami, and he’s a loser here. I mean my God, if he can’t cut it on a team that went 1-15, whats the point of acquiring him? I don’t care what else happens this season, if the Falcons get him off this team it’ll be one small step for this franchise and one giant step towards this fan’s sanity!
GO Falcons!!!
(and get Joey “Blowey” out of here!)
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
DJ, Shockley, who could not beat out David Greene for the starting job IN COLLEGE, and who is recovering from MAJOR KNEE SURGERY, should be starting in the NFL?
HahHAHAhahAHahAHHAhahAHAHAHAHAHAhAhahaha!
By Falcon fan since Haskell Stanback held it down
August 7, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
The only shot Shockley has is competing with Harrington for 3rd. string, that’s not a bad gig if you ask me.
By Pete
August 7, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
DJ had a much more college success than Ryan. Does not make him better, but he had more success.
By Chris
August 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
DJ Shockley is a solid QB if given a chance. If Quincy Carter got to start at Dallas I say DJ should definitely be playing. He is 10 times better than Carter. Shockleys mobility will help him better than the other QBs. Especially with a young offensive line. Ryan is the future but with a young line we dont want to get him killed
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Falcon fan, I’ll take 3rd string NFL QB (and its salary) over my job any day. Word, son.
By Rattler
August 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
The Falcons kept Harrington. That tells you how much they know about football. He couldn’t start at GA today!! I can’t believe that he has the nerve to think he’s a football player. Try being an announcer; just not a football announcer.I don’t dislike him, he just has NO heart for the game, no passion. As for as the rest of the QB’s, they are doomed. If you can’t get blocking from the OL, you can’t throw - Football 101. That’s why you needed a QB like Vick. Until you get a OL, the Falcons won’t be able to beat GA.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
Hey Rattler, did Vick ever complete 60% of his passes (as Harrington did last year)? Did he ever take responsibility for his actions (as Harrington does)? Will Vick beat out Bubba and Cupcake for the Leavenworth starting QB job this year?
By Dawg 'n IT
August 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Let’s not let facts get in the way of a train wreck blog.
1) DJ does NOT deserve to be named a starter right now.
2) DJ does deserve to play a significant amount of time in the first preseason game. As many have stated, we already know what we’ve got in Harrington and Redman. We need to see as much of Shockley and Ryan as possible as they are the only 2 unknown QBs on the roster.
3) If we want to go by career stats and awards, Ryan was the better college QB. If we want to go by gameday performance, Shockley looked better to me. Yes, Ryan was a 3 year starter. However, if David Greene had not been accumulating the NCAA Div I all-time QB wins mark during his 4 years at UGA, DJ would have been a 4 year starter. Richt knew DJ was good, perhaps better than Greene, he just couldn’t bench a successful QB. It wouldn’t have been fair to Greene.
4) We don’t know what DJ can provide to an NFL team since he got hurt last year but I did see him in one preseason game and he looked pretty good in limited playing time. I want to see him play a half with a real coaching staff.
If Shockley doesn’t seem like he can contribute, cut him and we have our 3 QBs. If Shockley looks good, cut Harrington because it makes no sense to keep Harrington and Redman if not necessary. Neither Harrington nor Redman are going to lead a team anywhere but either can fill in while a starter is hurt or to start while Ryan is groomed. We just shouldn’t keep both.
By dumpdj
August 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Shockley will not make the Falcons roster, and won’t be picked up by any other NFL team. He is clearly the number 4 on one of the worst teams in the NFL…who wants the Falcons # 4 QB. As for the dog fans touting his “mobility”, please remeber the Falcons are not going to be running the Vick offense, where the QB takes a quick look to see if the tight end is open, and then takes off running. They are running an offense where the QB hands the ball to the big running back, and he runs the ball. There are no running plays for the QB. As for those pleading for DJ to get a “fair shot”, every player trying to make the team gets his fair shot every day in practice, and most decisions as to who plays, stays, or goes, are made based on those practice performances. See ya in arena football, DJ.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Hey Pete: No, no he didn’t. I would prove it to you with stats (silly things such as wins, TDs, completions, YEARS AS A STARTER), but the Internet is your friend. Try looking things up before making such ridiculous statements.
By Matty Ice Fan
August 7, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Lofton Dawg hopefully DJ is not following in mike vicks footsteps. If so then two more weeks of DJ then huh? Is he killing dogs to? Anyway Matt Ryan is THE FUTURE of this team and a bright one at that. He has everything that those other formentioned two do not and that is leadership. He a TEAM guy. he is the best fit at QB right now. there is no doubt that DJ should get his playing time, but it will be behind MATTY ICE. True falcons fans and football fans should be able to see that for the first time in a long time this franchise is finally headed in the right direction.
By reggie
August 7, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
DJ shockley is the best shot the Falcons have at being over .500 this season. I personally think matt Ryan is going to fold like Ryan leaf. We invested to much money in this young quarterback. Now mind you that Mike Vick is still on the roster of Atlanta so he still has a job when he gets out.
By reggie
August 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
DJ shockley is the best shot the Falcons have at being over .500 this season. I personally think matt Ryan is going to fold like Ryan leaf. We invested too much money in this young quarterback. Now mind you that Mike Vick is still on the roster of Atlanta so he still has a job when he gets out.
By reggie
August 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
DJ shockley is the best shot the Falcons have at being over .500 this season. I personally think matt Ryan is going to fold like Ryan leaf. We invested too much money in this young quarterback. Now mind you that Mike Vick is still on the roster of Atlanta so he still has a job when he gets out.
By Rattler
August 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
No one could complete passes with the entire defense chasing you. Like it or love it, Vick’s numbers reflected an OL that could not block and WR’s who couldn’t catch a biscuit from Grandma’s oven. The proof is in the pudding. Think about it, the Falcon’s traded Farve without a blink. FYI, Vick will make millions in the NFL after prison. Why? Because he sells seats and can sometimes beat another team by himself. Ask the Falcons…
By xCaliber52
August 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Let’s actually talk about how much playing time we think each one will get.
Chris Redman starts and plays for 3 series Matt Ryan Comes in and plays for 6 series Joey Harrington plays for 2-3 DJ plays for 2-3
Matt Ryan will play the most but won’t start tonight.
By the way, I am a huge Bulldog fan and want DJ to make it in the league. He however, hasn’t proven anything on the field to warrant someone saying he should definitely start. There is also another problem. DJ has been hurt every year of his career from College to Pro. He would hav had his chance last year if he wouldn’t have gotten hurt. I am not sure he has the durability to make it. The skills yes, durability is questionable. I still want him to make the team and be the 2nd or 3rd guy behind Matt Ryan.
By the way, there is no way DJ Starts unless there are injuries to Matt Ryan and Chris Redman. The reason is if DJ were to come in and light it up as a starter how do you replace him and how do you keep your 70 million dollar man sitting on the bench.
By Doggit
August 7, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
I’m a dog through and through - but Shockley shouldn’t be starting…Give Matty Ice the chance - we paid him the $$$$$.
By Rattler
August 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
No one could complete passes with the entire defense chasing you. Like it or love it, Vick’s numbers reflected an OL that could not block and WR’s who couldn’t catch a biscuit from Grandma’s oven. The proof is in the pudding. Think about it, the Falcon’s traded Farve without a blink. FYI, Vick will make millions in the NFL after prison. Why? Because he sells seats and can sometimes beat another team by himself. Ask the Falcons…
By Jeff
August 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
All you Matt Ryan bashers need to face the fact that he IS the new quarterback of the future….and is a positive representative for our city.
By Rattler
August 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
No one could complete passes with the entire defense chasing you. Like it or love it, Vick’s numbers reflected an OL that could not block and WR’s who couldn’t catch a biscuit from Grandma’s oven. The proof is in the pudding. Think about it, the Falcon’s traded Farve without a blink. FYI, Vick will make millions in the NFL after prison. Why? Because he sells seats and can sometimes beat another team by himself. Ask the Falcons…
By ATLien
August 7, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Well, we should have tried to grab Farve. Give the Packers Horn and Harrington, we wouldn’t have QB drama.
By BR
August 7, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Adam, if Dawg fans are so low class, why did you spend YEARS hanging out in Athens bars??? Might want to think before you speak.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Mike Vick still has a job? What, pounding out license plates? And DJ Shockley is the best QB on the roster?
What are you people smoking? Can I get some?
By MattRyanGuy
August 7, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
“He was a dominant QB in college “
LOL loftondawg you are a moron
By Rattler
August 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
Redman, Ryan, DJ, Big FB; The bottom line is that fundementals must be in place before you can win NFL Chamionships. If the Falcons are going to ever be serious contenders, they must have an OL that can block. Until that time, you are wasting money on paying a QB millions, unless it’s Mike Vick. For you haters, Vick is paying his time for the doggie thing. He is a great QB…You know it, Arthur Blank knows it…That’s why Vick still has a job with the Falcons. Watch how his $$ piles up after prison.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Rattler, you must really like seeing your “thoughts” on screen. 3 of the same posts? Right on.
By Shockley - Woof!
August 7, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
All you haters need to get with DJ. In the 12 starts he’s had since high school he’s been AWESOME. All you need to do is look at the film from his game against Georgia Southern. He tore those boys up! Woof Woof Woof!
By LaughinatLoftonDawg
August 7, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
LoftonDawg, Since when did the GA Dome hold 80,000 people? DJ is following in Vick’s shoes? Why because he’s black and mobile? Your basic lack of knowledge about what you’re talking about debunks your entire rant.
By dirk
August 7, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
If Joe Montana started for the Falcons he would get killed with the offencive line they have . Everyone knows that D.J Shockly should be the starter he did not start at Georgia because he is black I went to those games an I heard the boos and name calling the same thing with the Falcons and Michael Vick a lot of the Falcon fan base would rather lose with a white man than win with a black man based on coloe alone.New coach same attatude the bottom line is the Falcons will only win in preseason games and I am glad because of the way the Falcons treated Michael Vick I hope they never win another game as long as they play in the NFL
By Fair Competition
August 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
If it’s a fair competition, DJ will win. He was better then any of those guys in college and he is better then them now. He can make the throws, he is a proven leader and he has some running ability when he needs it. Not to mention Arthur, you want to sell some tickets then put him in the game because I am sure not heading down to the Dome to watch Ryan lose 13 or 14 games.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
This blog is hilarious. Mike Vick a “great” QB? DJ Shockley starting over Matt Ryan? I must have too much blood in my alcohol stream.
By Rattler
August 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Tron5000, Go back to sleep. Winning teams can block. Look at the Pats and Colts. My problem is not with the players on the field but with the people that hired the players. If the Falcons are going to be decent, they need a serious overhaul. Start by getting rid of Rick McKay and the team should improve over night. Until then, watch J. Trotter abuse the next Falcon QB or FB.
By Rick from Saudi
August 7, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
People, lets all raise our level of common sense and give this new coaching staff a CHANCE!
Let’s put our faith and trust in them that they will properly evaluate the roster and put the best team on the field based on real things such as performance, experience, hard work, and intelligence.
I for one am excited about this new change in ATL. It has the feel to me of finally a step in the right direction. We have rid ourselves of problematic players and attitudes and now have new hungry players eager to perform. If Coach Smith and his staff can get everyone of their players to buy into the program, then we may have the makings of something special here.
But, let’s remember to be patient folks….we can’t expect instant success. All we can ask for is improvement and stability from what has been a tumultuous situation over the past year.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Hey dirk, did they not teach punctuation at your school? Or were you just absent that day?
If you’re trying to make a point here, English is preferable. Thanks for playing.
By Rick McKay
August 7, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
ummm ….. my name is Rich and they already booted me upstairs and I had nothing to do with the personnel moves this off season . Oh, and Trotter’s out of the league. Thanks.
By Bernie
August 7, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
Come on Dirk. The Falcons didn,t make Vick get into Dog Fighting. Vick was an adult and made his own decisions and had to pay for the choices he made. I think the Falcons bent over backwards to make Vick the quarterback for the future.I,m sure Shockley will get his chance to show what he can do.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
OK, I’m gone. I seriously can’t deal with people thinking DJ Shockley is the best QB on the roster, or that he performed better than Matt Ryan in college. Facts are stubborn things, but I guess Racist Falcons Fans (or UGA fans) are even more so. You people have fun in Imaginationland. See ya later.
By HiramHornet Alumni
August 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
1) REDMAN 2) RYAN 3) DJ 4) HARRINGTON Harrington will be a 4th stringer at best!
By RyanFalcons
August 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
DJ was a backup to D. Greene who can’t even catch on as a 3rd string QB in the NFL.
By tony
August 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
all i care about as for as the qbs goes is that dj get an fair opportunity to be the starter.
they had no business drafting ryan in the 1st place because it was more important for us to draft a dt.
it was very foolish for mr. blank to pay ryan 72 million when the guy hasn’t played a down.
By Dre
August 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
D.J. should start because:
1)He looks more like Vick than the other QBs
2)He’s African-American
3)He’s African-American
By Frank
August 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
Man, you people have to get over this DJ Shockley thing! You look like fools to the rest of the country.
Outside of your little world, no one even knows who DJ Shockley IS, let alone that he’s in the NFL. Get serious. Support your team. Go Falcons!
By nick
August 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
stop hatin D.J should start apperently he should start because u seen what we did before with a athletic QB so D.J could bring us back to that glory from 04 and we all no what happened that season so start D.j
By TROTTINGHOMETUDD
August 7, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
dear rattler,
rich mckay has nothing to do with personel moves anymore. Granted he is still a Falcon, just not involved in player development or decisions.
By Steve Wyche
August 7, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
We’re going to have to wait until after the Falcons’ afternoon practice to find out the quarterback rotation and other personnel plans for the preseason opener Saturday at Jacksonville.
Coach Mike Smith said he wants to watch video from this morning’s practice to make final determinations regarding playing time.
For their part, quarterbacks Matt Ryan and Chris Redman said they aren’t going to read anything into who plays how much and at what point of the game. Both are pretty polished at diplomacy, so take it for what you will.
Just don’t think either of them doesn’t want to take as many snaps as possible with the first offense.
Stick with me. I’ll have the news up ASAP
By Manny
August 7, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
I agree with Redman being #1, Ryan #2, and DJ #3. Harrington is there just in case someone gets hurt.
I’m scared, though. I believe that the QB rotation at the beginning of the year will have Ryan at #1. Then Redman or DJ @#2 and 3. I think the kid will get beat up, too.
I like Redman because he’s mature in the pocket. The problem is that there may still be holes in the O-line.
I like DJ because he’s the best natural athlete. Plus, I think he can handle the pressure. Also, I like that he didn’t play a down last year to let that leg heal. But he’s not going to start first day because he’s the kind of player that has to warm up in order to do his best. In other words, he’s better later in games than in the beginning. Better later in seasons than the beginning. Frankly, he’s a Bulldog.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Thanks for the update, Steve. Keep up the good work.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
“Frankly, he’s a Bulldog.”
Not till he gets arrested, he’s not.
By nick
August 7, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
well frank the reason that is, is because D.J gives us the best chance of winning i know that you no that the falcons o line is not that reliable and obviously D.J gives us that chance to come back to glory and make peace running again we came from bset rushing team 3 years and having 2 1000 yard rushers to barely getting over 1500 rushing yards so the right thing to do is START D.J
By Sun Tzu 7
August 7, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Ryan is not ready to start.
That was obvious to me when I saw him in 7 on 7 drills with no pads, shells, or hitting.
I hope people don’t freak out when they see him struggle.
By Dr. Butler
August 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
I’m still holding out hope we can draft Matt Staford next year. If Favre can be traded maybe we can trade can trade a couple of our QB’s for the 1st pick in the draft.
Can you do that?
I admit I don’t know how most drafts work.
By assplay
August 7, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
Don’t everybody crap on Harrington. 7 sacks in one game is the Oline’s (or lack of Oline) fault. From what I remember he was real accurate within 20 yards and actually moved the ball downfield.
I wish we had been in the Favre hunt cause lord knows he could sell out the dome and teach Matt Ryan.
Still don’t crap on Joey. I think he will suprise people this year.
By assplay
August 7, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
Don’t everybody crap on Harrington. 7 sacks in one game is the Oline’s (or lack of Oline) fault. From what I remember he was real accurate within 20 yards and actually moved the ball downfield.
I wish we had been in the Favre hunt cause lord knows he could sell out the dome and teach Matt Ryan.
Still don’t crap on Joey. I think he will suprise people this year.
By AD
August 7, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
This is a little off topic but…. But Steve, Cnnsi is reporting that lito shepperd wants out of Philly…do you think the Flcons will go after him?
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Draft Matt Stafford? After drafting Ryan this year? Little early to be hitting the bottle, don’t you think?
By lolo
August 7, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
i hear its DJs job to lose w/Ryan as backup
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
I hear Crack is Wack.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
stafford could be our #1 next year w/DJ as backup.if Knowshon stays another year, then we could draft him #1 in 2010.Ryan s/b easy to dump as there will be lots of teams looking for a qb at that time.
By Todd Green
August 7, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Most of you are crazy and extremely biased. First of all, neither have either proed themsleves or when given the opportunity, have not been very good. I am a hugh Falcon Fan and certainlly miss Vick. I am alla hugh UGA Fan and love what DJ did. With Redman or certainly with Harrignton, the Falcons are not going to win a championship, so why have either in the the mix. Use them to help mature Ryan and DJ. For those who say ‘what has DJ done in the NFL’? I say the say as Ryan.
The Falcons shoudl start the one who has performed better during camp, eith DJ or Ryan.
If you are truly a hugh falcon fan, you would not pre-judge either and stop bashing Vick. Hell, Vick gave up some great years and I truly wish teh nbest for him and really liek to see him bach with the falcons. Hell, Josh Hamilton who was in the home run derby was a crack head and he was allowed back in baseball. The guys are human; treat them how you want to be treated.
By Shockley - Woof!
August 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Athens in the A town! DJ is a pro bowler in waiting. Woof Woof Woof!
By toshie
August 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Why don’t all you UGA fans take DJ back to GA and see if he can beat out Stafford. I doubt it.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
toshie-why dont you go to hell
By eazy
August 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
It sounds like Mike Smith is trying to railroad Shockely. I want to see Shockely start and be the #1 qb.he needs to be treated like that to. Not unless Ryan distingushes hisself. Ryan didnt do any thing in college what make Mr. Wyche think that it is going to be a big differance.
By jamal
August 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
I agree with the others.Lets make the ATL Falcons the ATL Bulldogs!
By LoftonDawg
August 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Thanks you to all of my UGA BULLDOG bruthas and sistas out there who are not afraid to tell it like it is. As I said above, Everyone knows DJ should be starting. Maybe I should have said that everyone who knows anything about football knows that DJ should be starting.
DJ was dominant in the best conference in college football - probably not too different than the level that the Faclons are playing at now and WAY HIGHER than anything Matt Ryan has ever seen playing against teams like Duke and Wake Forest.
I also think that looking at Matt Stafford is not a bad idea as he is a heisman front runner this year and the falcons could use that kind of publicity.
We could be like the steelers and have Stafford as out drop back quarterback and then have DJ come in as a Slash type guy. If Thomas Brown continues to develop, the Falcons will be just as dominant in the NFL as the DAWGS are in college football.
People need to realize that DJ is ready to go and I hope that the coaches give him a fair look and see what we DAWGS fans have witnessed for years when he played in Athens. He is too athletic to keep on the sidelines behions slow white guys like Matt Ryan - even though the Flacons threw so much money at this unproven QB who had a mediocre college career in one of the worst conferenses.
It will all come out in the wash and EVERYONE will see how good DJ Shockley is. If the falcons don’t seize this opportunity, DJ will come back to haunt Falcons fans much like the folks in Green Bay are afraid that Favre will do to them if they have to face the New York Jets.
All and all - it just bolis down to putting your best guy in there and all DAWGS fans know that it should be DJ this year - and possible Stafford next year if he decides to come out early - whcih is likely given how dominant he has been in his short career.
I just hope that Coach smith does not let race get in the way when making his final decision about who the starter will be between DJ and the other white quarterbacks. Hopefully when they say it is an open competition, they really mean it. IF it is, there is now way that these other guys can beat out GEORGIA BULLDOG DJ SHOCKLEY>
GO DAWGS!
GO DJ!
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
WHAT THE HELL HAS DJ SHOCKLEY EVER DONE TO MAKE YOU PEOPLE THINK HE CAN WIN AS A STARTING NFL QB? HAVE YOU ALL BEEN DRINKING THAT ATHENS MOONSHINE THIS MORNING? SERIOUSLY…WHAT?
AND DRAFT MATT STAFFORD (AND START HIM OVER RYAN AND HIS $70 MIL) AND KNOWSHON? WHY DON’T YOU PEOPLE JUST GET UGA SEASON TICKETS?
OH MY GOD! MY HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE!
By Dawg 'n IT
August 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
You people are hilarious. I already told you the reality. Play your unknowns and figure out what you’ve got at the QB position. Redman/Harrington are on borrowed time in Atlanta. Neither will be here in 2009-2010.
By JasonRbach
August 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
I’m a UGA alum, huge Dawg fan and equally huge Falcon fan. I was embarrased to read the 1st blog from LoftonDawg today. What an idiot and obviously know ZERO about the NFL. I won’t even get into it because it already has from other posts before me. This team is best off with either Redman or Ryan to start. I think we all know what Harrington brings to the table which isn’t much. I would love to see DJ make it at #3 and be the #2 guy next year when Ryan takes over full time. Saturday’s game will be fun to watch and I’m geeked about next Saturday’s game in the Dome since I couldn’t make it to the open house last weekend.
Wyche, looking forward to the QB rotation and I predict Harrington and Horn will be cut after 2nd preseason game. How is the battle at the RG going between Dahl and Forney?
Thanks,
By Jared
August 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
For those who are wondering whether DJ can play, i believe he had a very good showing in several pre-season games before his leg injury. For those who think we need a QB with something between his ears, I believe Shockley comes from an educated family, is relatively articulate, and if I’m not mistaken has a degree. Why is Matt Ryan assumed to be smarter, because he is white (I am too), ridiculous!
Ryan was the best QB in college football, Shockley was one of several very good QB’s. Redman should start first few games, with Ryan coming into his own and starting by game four. Shockley should certainly be utilized for his mobility and earn the second string job.
Speaking of Smarts, how is Thomas Brown doing? Stellar individual who’s parents both have PHD’s - good role model after having Vick as the face of the franchise.
By Shockley - Woof!
August 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Woof! Why is August a Dawg’s favorite month? It’s the time of year Georgia is one of the best teams in the country! Go DJ! Woof Woof Woof!
By lolo
August 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
jason is an idiot.i am embarrased for you
By Doug Johnson
August 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Wow!!!!!!!!
What great excitement we have here today.
Once I take over the QB position we will be heading to the SB.
Folks I am your future QB. It’s not Matt Ryan, or any QB from Athens. It is me the dawg killa aka the most talented gator QB.
I controlled the Fun n gun. When you control the fun n gun that’s when you know you are one heck of a QB.
I am the future folks. forget MV7, Matt ryan, and definitely Shockey.
Watch how I command the offense when I take the field this Saturday in Jacksonville.
Go Gator nation.
By Hamad Meander
August 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
For God’s sake people - this is the pre-season!!!!! These games mean less than nothing because the Falcons are not preparing to march through the NFC South and make the playoffs. There are at least 27 guys that are suiting up Saturday night that WILL NOT have a job in 4 weeks. That is what pre-season is designed for - to help the coaches weed out (probably a bad choice of words) the players that don’t fit the team/system.
Who cares who plays QB on Saturday night? It means absolutely nothing.
By Dawg 'n IT
August 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
And no, the Falcons shouldn’t draft Stafford. I want to see Stafford have a nice NFL career and that can’t happen in the ATL. When the Falcons drafted Ryan they wanted to wash the scent of Vick from the franchise. I don’t think it was the right move but I can’t blame them. I only hope the OL gels fast or they leave Ryan on the bench for a season or two until they can build a real OL. Would hate to see the injured ATL QB trend continue. From Bartkowski, to Chris Miller, to Chandler, to Vick, they all got hurt way too much. Build a line!
By jamal
August 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
Shock is in at #1 qb
By TheManMike
August 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
DJ SHOCKLEY IS GLASS MAN. Second coming of Sammy L Jackson from “Unbreakable”. Watch it! Hes a no go…
Harrington makes me want to barf a little.
Redman and Ryan - Bet.
Peace in the middle east!
Go Falcons. Go Ovie!
By Keeping it Real
August 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Why all the hate? Do some of you people just enjoy cutting down players? Its amazing how most of the same people comment the same way over and over and over again. If you don’t like the players don’t waste your time following up on them. Its a joke considering NONE of us are experts on knowing what could happen. The future is unknown to all. So how can you KNOW that they will suck and this will happen. Live in the real world. I hope that they all do good and no players get injured. I’m not getting off on hoping this guy gets cut because he doesn’t deserve an NFL check, especially since you’re not writing the check. If you don’t have anything good to say, how about, say noting at all. You can go on any NFL teams message board, and Atlanta is the most negative. It doesn’t cost a penny to be nice….
By Keeping it Real
August 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Why all the hate? Do some of you people just enjoy cutting down players? Its amazing how most of the same people comment the same way over and over and over again. If you don’t like the players don’t waste your time following up on them. Its a joke considering NONE of us are experts on knowing what could happen. The future is unknown to all. So how can you KNOW that they will suck and this will happen. Live in the real world. I hope that they all do good and no players get injured. I’m not getting off on hoping this guy gets cut because he doesn’t deserve an NFL check, especially since you’re not writing the check. If you don’t have anything good to say, how about, say noting at all. You can go on any NFL teams message board, and Atlanta is the most negative. It doesn’t cost a penny to be nice….
By TheManMike
August 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Aww - Its just Keeping it real, keeping it real…how sweet. i wish i could draw a violin on here…
::shrugs it off::
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Jared. That’s what we need. An “articulate” QB. The other players have to hear the play in the huddle.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
the only way Falcons make playoffs is w/DJ at the helm.gives us our best shot to win games.
By Ron Roberts
August 7, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
I, too, wanna see what D.J. Shockley can do for this team, but let’s be real; the Falcons have heavily invested in Matt Ryan, and he’s going to get the most attention from the coaching staff, as well he should.
No disrespect to D.J., (I’m a Bulldog fan, myself), but the guy got to play one full season as a starting QB in college (through no fault of his own). Even last season, when the opportunity truly presented itself for him to breakout, he was injured and didn’t get to play.
I’ve a hunch there’s a large contingent of former MV7 fans who just want this team to embrace D.J. Shockley - but for non-football reasons. Folks, get over that irrational thought-process.
If you can’t root for this team unless they name a starting QB who fits the parameters you’re seeking (you know what you’re “looking” for, and I do, too), then find another team now. Jacksonville would suit you (and they’re a good squad!).
Falcons’ coaches and executives aren’t trying to find an MV7 “replacement” in the same mold you are. They’re going to pick the QB who best represents this team’s future, no matter what his skin tone is. And stop w/the whining about race; do you honestly think these people have been in football as long as they all have and have made decisions based on the color of a player’s skin? Please.
No, that’s you, doing that. Many of you were also pushing for us to play Byron Leftwich, too, and it didn’t help us at all.
I truly believe that Ryan and Shockley may actually provide this team with what it realyy needs; a young QB battery that gives us different looks on offense. Can you imagine being a defensive coordinator planning on a game plan against Atlanta when they aren’t sure which look they’d get from one series to another?
Folks, we could be witnessing an evolutionary process in pro football.
But if you’re going to root for Shockley harder than you are for Ryan, you’re no better than those who tear-gassed and hosed demonstators in the civil rights era. Support the team, and the team will benefit.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
You people are pathetic.I cannot believe I wasted 3.4 hours posting with you dumb Georgia hicks.back to Halo 3 then,bye all
By TheManMike
August 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
RIGHT ON RON!
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
OK, this is the REAL Tron5000. Whoever just posted that Halo comment under my name needs to grow some balls and debate me under their real screen name. Pansy.
By lacuda
August 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
i think we need to make the falcons play the Dawgs,the winner is the one who will go on to represent atlanta in the nfl….the falcons are good be4 the season starts,on paper.Once they go on the field,they fold like my porch chair. same as the nba(hawks) team and the hockey team.Atlanta is only good for its sexxy black women and famous for its down-low brothers and gay white men in midtown and the strip clubs…..nice place to visit if u like over cooked vegetables passing as soul food.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Whoever is posting with my name should know that I will sue the for liable and will court order everyone in here as witnesses to such blasphemy.
By MVP
August 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Some of you guys really need some help. We saw Redman and Harrington last year, and I wasn’t impressed, If DJ or Matt Ryan isn’t the starting QB this year, I will root for the Saints, DJ and Matt have clearly been doing a far better job than Redman and Harrington, just look at the the progression. DJ or Matt and nothing else, hell I would even cut Redman and Harrington and pick up Pennington to be a backup.
By lacuda
August 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
i mean the falcons were a one man team b4 the dog fighter went to prison….now its just a bunch of amateaurs.Which other atlanta team wld u waste ur money on and buy tickets?Frankly if smeone were to donate me some tickets for the falcons, i wld either decline them or just take them for the kids to go learn a little about the sport.Better yet, i will just stay at home and let the wify go while i watch golf or smething on tele.Watching the falcons is a sure way to add lots of unwanted depreciation on my eyes. Give me tickets to go hang out with the black chics in midtown or dwtown, or to the black strip joints in the suburbs…ill gladdly accept…
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
I really like the title of the “know-it-all” on this board.It makes me feel,how do i say,better about myself.I like to make fun of multiple postings and telling them their comments are ridiculous.It makes me feel better about myself and my little weenie.
By Expert
August 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Here again is my proclamation:
Falcons are going to the playoffs; believe it! Here’s why: Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood will light up the fast track of the Georgia dome. Whoever plays quarterback will be a game manager who will give the rock to Roddy White, Laurent Robinson, Michael Jenkins, Harry Douglas, Brian Finneran, and again Turner and Norwood. And let’s not forget about Ovie the “boulder”. The offensive line will be good enough for these guys to flourish; remember they gave up 13 of their 47 sacks in the first two weeks. So they only allowed 34 sacks (2.5 average sacks allowed per game) the rest of the way, which is not that bad given that they passed 555 times. Oh yeah, didn’t we suffer through a lot of injuries on the O-line. So enough with the complaining! On defense, they still boast greats like John Abraham, Lawyer Milloy, Keith Brooking, Michael Boley, and big Grady Jackson. And with them alongside the young guys such as Grimes, C. Jackson, Lofton and/or Tony Taylor, Houston, and Jammal Anderson, they should reflect an exciting group of athletic and mentally astute ballplayers. You must also take into account that the style of defense we’ll employ is going to be a simple cover-2 defense that allows players to just play without much thinking—that is, not having to know where to line up every play; (check out the other cover-2 defenses such the bucs, bears, colts, and Jaguars) this should give the youngsters the ability to just play and not think. Special teams wise, Jason Elam should do us well. This is no worry because they always rank among the best, even last season they played well. So even if they don’t make the playoffs, they should be competitive in every game no matter what. I guarantee super bowl in three years; yes super bowl in three years!
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Ok-this is me again-That is enough childish behavior that I can stand for one day.Grow up or I will tell my mommy.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
This is the real Tron5000 and I do not appreciate whats going on here.Help me out guys.
By Quarterback
August 7, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Half these so-called Fans are complete idiots. FACT: Joey Harrington IS our most experienced Veteran NFL quarterback with 6 years experience as starter. FACT: both Detroit and Miami were worse off after he left those teams. He threw for nearly 400 yards in a game last year. He also threw a game winning TD vs Panthers.
Joey got screwed by Bobby The Quitter - he should be the Falcons starter. Coach Smith, Mularkey, and Musgrave all know this… Also, giving Harrington the start against his old team the Lions in Game 1 would make sense. He played a revenge game 2 years ago and threw 3 TDs was MVP of the game on Thanksgiving. Harrington should be the QB.
Too bad, he is the wrong color - and we’ve got this large crowd of drunken Dawgs yelling outside the gate!
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
This is the real me.I have had enough of this crap.I hate you all for not helping me.
By Shady
August 7, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Thanks for keeping us updated Steve.
As far as the DJ huggers go, when is Mr. Blank going step in and declare DJ the starter? He also should name DJ head coach for life when he retires. Hell, he should just give DJ 10% ownership of the Falcons. That’s how ridiculous some of you sound. lmao
By jamal
August 7, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
ManMike you just hate it that a brother is gonna be the #1 qb again dont cha punk?
By Nicky
August 7, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
I have said it from the start all of you looking to replace MV with the next GREAT WHITE HYPE are out of your minds.None of us now how this man (Matt Ryan) is going to perform in the NFL. As a previous blog stated there have been numerous college players that were OUTSTANDING but where are they now? Give DJ a fair chance you never know what can happen. Everybody is putting the whole team on 1 man’s shoulders again.
Did we not learn our leason from VICK?
By Rattler
August 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
The Bottom Line is that none of the QB’s on the team will be effective if the OL does not block and if the WR’s can’t catch.New coach or not, when the ball drops in the WR’s hands and they don’t catch it, who you gonna blame? Mike? What about when the OL does not block? Who you gonna blame? Vick? No, you will make excuses about new coaches, and new systems. You WON’T blame the QB? No, you save all of that hate for MV…The bottom line is that MV will be playing somewhere next season and will be be a better QB than the previous mention 4 any day of the week…Falcons need an OL…
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
This is me and seriously,you need to stop.I am above being f’d with.Do you hear me?I know it all,do you hear me?I am the almighty Tron5000,do you hear me?Please leave me alone
By Paddy
August 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Lofton dog…Ryan is already a bust??? We have not had one snap in pre-season yet. You need to watch a little football before making such unbelieveliable statements. Everybody who knows football knows DJ should be the starter??? Can’t even imagine where that comes from. I trust that everyone that knows football feels just the opposite. He should have his chance but he has done nothing up to this point.
You have given us all a good laugh.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Shady-you are right about him being named starter but the rest of your post is asinine.
By hatfieldgeoff
August 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Joey Harrington should not even be in the battle. We know what he can do which is very little. He is not going to get better. I would rather lose with D.J. Shockley and at least find out what he can do at this level than send out Harrington and be bored by 10 and 15 yard passes and sacks. Redman played well enough last season. Obviously, Ryan should see several series and Shockley should play a good bit in the second half.
By Ken Strickland
August 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
LOFTONDAWG-How can anyone in his right mind claim DJ Shockey hasn’t been given a fair chance when he’s spent most his NFL career on Injured Reserve. Being a DAWG fan if one thing, but being rediculous, and somewhat stupid, is something else entirely.
Shockey will be given a fair chance to make the team, but not as a starter. The team didn’t use their #3 pick, and spend about 70M, on MRyan just so he can be Shockey’s backup. Both Redmon and Ryan would have to completely fall flat on their faces for that to happen.
By TheManMike
August 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Actually Jamal…im a brother too. boy you sure got me…
..whata cheese.
I just want our boys to win again.
…is all im sayin….
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Its obvious that as I have stated here that Harrington is our guy.I feel ok with winning 4 games again this year.That will be just fine with me.
By Maurice
August 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
No. The team is being shouldered by many shoulders. Abraham, Brooking, Boley, Turner, Norwood, Milloy, Jackson and Mike Smith. I think that after the last 3 years the team has finally realized that one man can not win anything in football. Look at the Giants. Not a great team, but a decent to good team. If we can be good late Say 9-7 or 10-6, sneak into the playoffs on a roll, who knows what could happen.
By jamal
August 7, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
Ken-you are an idiot.Shock gives us our best chance to win games.
By jamal
August 7, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
manmike-you tha only cheese in here.I gotta call from your wife and she says you wont be startin tonite either
By MVP
August 7, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Hey Troon, Why should I support a REDMAN or a HARRINGTON, what are you smokn, I’m born and raised in the A, and I’m ready to win, If we are moving in a diffrent direction, let’s move, I don’t want to be lead by a Journeyman QB that’s scared of contact, do you even go to the practices, if not than be quiet, Parino ran a college offense last year which made those guys look ok, but those days are done, we have a pro offense and those guys will be back to reality, I will make a prediction for you based off of what I have seen thus far, Shockley will beat out REDMAN & Harrington for the #2 job and Ryan will start, watch the game tomorrow, Shockley has a rifle and he’s acurate, he would of won the job last year if not for the engery, he’s a passer than REDMAN & Harrington for those of you that didn’t know.
By lacuda
August 7, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
sneak into the playoffs on a roll, who knows what could happen. u are a perennial dreamer are u not,year after year…until the playing time begins,thats when most falcon fans wake up to smell their stinking assembly of men disguised as a team,rag tag at best. I think the best thing to do is start a college park,East point,chamblee and stn mtn leagues and have these guys play there 1st..we have 1st class facilities at the Dome..once they figure out hw to play after playing inter city league,then maybe they can go play the Steelers,colts etc,not right now. Why is Mr Blank so generous and wasteful with his money? He also threw a game winning TD vs Panthers. Quarterback,arer u brainless, u pay smeone millions to thrw one TD pass..getthe fck outa here man…..
By MVP
August 7, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Ken, How can you say DJ has been given a fair chance to play when He never played with the first or second unit offense in the Preseason until this year, Patrino handed the job to REDMAN because that’s his boy, He got hurt with the third unit tryn to make a play when the protection broke down, you are kidding me if you can honestly say REDMAN & Harrington , I’m tired of talking about those BUMZZZZZZZZZZ, from a PR point, Their are a lot of BC fans in ATL, and we all know about the DOG fans, If we start DJ or Ryan it will immediatly boost our fan base and maybe even sell out the dome, we can recoupe alot off lost revenue, but not with the other 2 guys.
By No Dawgs Here
August 7, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
Expert, you are out of your mind!!
DJ is a below average NFL QB. Suprised the race card has yet to be thrown out. But, truth is truth. DJ was great at UGA. However; due to all his injuries, I’m willing to bet he is not as mobile as he was 4 years ago.
The defense is still suspect. The offense is going to have to learn a new system. You can not 100% beleive that they are playoff bound!
It will take a few years to get the players the coaches need to win. Matt Ryan is an excellent start. However; as many of you said the the O-line sucks. Face it, no matter who is QB, they are not going to do well. Even Brett Favre would fail.
Watch to see next year’s draft when we work on building the O line more.
As for the defense. The Falcon’s aren’t the worse, however; due to the offense not being able to keep the ball, it will put a toll on the defense. A good offense that controls the ball, always has a good defense. it is pure logic. If you don’t have the ball, you can’t score. That why the Patriots win. They control the clock. Not because of a great defense.
Football 102 For those that past Football 101
By middleagedwhiteguy
August 7, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
D.J. only started one year at Ga, why do you imbeciles think he can start in the NFL? He had a decent senior year, that does not make him the heir apparent.
By TheManMike
August 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Jamal - haha. Man, you really know how to write a great come back. I gotta tell ya, im feeling hurt by your words…..
……..wait…..nevermind - thats just my ACL tearing.
Me and Shockley have things in common.
LoftonDawg-
nevermind. You wouldnt understand.
By FALCONS610
August 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Ok,
I don’t believe I have ever read such a dumb chain of comments in my life. Falcons will NOT draft MATT STAFFORD. HE is know where near as good as MATT RYAN. Where was STAFFORD’s intangibles i.e. leadership skills, last year when the DAWGS could NOT muster up the few point to beat S.C. at home. RYAN was down by 10 with 2 minutes to go on the road and still came back to win. Whoever thinks STAFFORD will be a top 5 draft is out of there minds. He is not that great. I have seen much better, he has the leadership and confidence skills equivalent to the width of a piece of paper.
Thomas Brown is OK, he is not a NORWOOD or a TURNER. Never will be. He is too fragile, he was plagued by injuries at the college level, he will be hit much, much harder in the NFL.
Lastly for you ATL DAWG dreamers. DJ is not as mobile as he was before his season off and an ACL injury. He was, however, able to be a slash QB before a torn ACL, but that is now out of the question. Ask Jamal Anderson how well he is able to cut and run. The only thing SHOCKLY is good for now is simply pocket passing and maybe a short scramble, but he CANNOT play the same game he did at UGA. Those days for him are gone. bye. bye. “the train has left the station” as the Packers would say.
MATT RYAN is the MAN now! Now that I have hopefully expelled these UGA “dreamers” I can go now.
GOOOOOOOOOOO FALCONS and MATTY ICE!!!!!!!
By No Dawgs Here
August 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
Well never mind. The race card has been played.
Thank you, for I knew that one blog could not happen without it.
Way to live in the past!!!
By Paddy
August 7, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Why do I now think that Lofton dog is not black at all. He may very well pulled one over on all concerned. He’s just trying to stir the pot.
By LoftonDawg
August 7, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Well played Paddy, well played.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
the falcons just might draft Stafford and then dump Ryans big contract onto someone else that needs a qb.DJ can be his backup as he would not need to sit a year because he his already ready.
By jamal
August 7, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
GO ATL DAWGS!I love it lolo
By MVP
August 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
For all you Shockley haters, let’s just see what he can do in a real game or in the Preseason with the first unit before you bash him, the same way you don’t want guys bashing Ryan before he gets to see some action, I am a fan of both guys, I just hate the other 2, and for all of you idiots that are calling for REDMAN to start, BITE ME. He sucks and I bet he did a poor job selling insurance as well, hahaha. Play one of the young guys, I rather struggle one year than 2, we can make some noise next year, and draft Percy Harvin, we need some electricity in the return game and at Receiver, some one that can make something out of nothing.
By JHD
August 7, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
I’m looking forward to the 4 preseason games because they will be the best determinant of who should be the starter. The criteria should be which QB has led the offense to the most scoring drives and/or the QB with the best efficiency rating, TD to INT ratio, etc. Ya’ll are really ripping Harrington. If he’s cut he’ll probably end up in Green Bay because they don’t have an experienced backup to Rodgers. Brohm and Flynn are true rookies.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
we dont need no harvin or any other gators to mess up our atlanta bulldogs.draft stafford
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
Joey gives us our best chance at a winning season.You people are pathetic.With time,he may even develop into HoF caliber status.
By toby
August 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
bring in Pennington and trade ole whats his face
By Steve Wyche
August 7, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Okay folks, we had some good — and interesting conversation — going before we digressed. Let’s keep things a little more focused. I really appreciate all your insight but let’s keep things directed more towards Falcons’ issues.
To answer a question not related to the QBs, the Dahl-Forney battle continues. Dahl will start Saturday and Forney will back him up. The coaches want to see if Dahl can handle himself and what better test than the Jacksonville front?
The coaches say Forney is starting to perform like he wants his old job back but he’s not quite there yet. Plus, Dahl is behaving like he wants to keep his job. Dahl is a huge guy.
One of the more interesting things to watch — when the Falcons first offense comes to the line of scrimmage, you’ll see how much taller the right side of Dahl and Tyson Clabo are than the left side of Justin Blalock and Sam Baker.
By patrocket
August 7, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
The Shocker will rock’r.
By jamal
August 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
if they bring in pennington,i am done with the Falcons
By welikebaseball2
August 7, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Who are we kidding? It’s useless debating about who’s going to lead the Falcons’ offense this year. They drafted & paid Ryan big bucks to be the starter (much to my dismay). We’re really trying to figure out if they’ll throw him right in or let one of the other QB’s warm the spot for him. Personally, I think if he’s outplayed in preseason he should sit until/if we realize we CAN’T win with the guy in front of him. However, I’ll say again, as much as I would love to see Shockley & Ryan with equal chances to earning the job, it’s inevitable that Ryan will take over as the starter sometime during the season. What would be exciting/interesting to see is if, say Shockley got the nod, the team went something like 5-3 or even 6-2 through the first 8 games (I can dream can’t I?). Would they still pull Shockley for the sake of not letting $27.3 million (guaranteed) sit on the bench?
By michaelgee
August 7, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Q. Who is the blindest of the blind?
A. TMoore and any Dawg Fan.
By Rattler
August 7, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Football 201 After we build an OL, we need LB’s. Now I know that I’ll get blasted. But those are places where we are going to pay. Ball control happens b/c the OL plays well. Defense happens b/c LB’s are smart and athletic..If the LB’s can’t bring the heat and their heads, sit them down. The Falcons have talent but they aren’t hungry. No passion..
By jamal
August 7, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
yes they can if the Shock is winning.can you imagine a full stadium to see Shock at the dome.I dont mind if he is a millionaire 2nd stringer
By Birddog
August 7, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Joey gives us our best chance at a winning season.You people are pathetic.With time,he may even develop into HoF caliber status
HA.HA.HA.HA
By Carl Childers
August 7, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
DJ has to be better than Joey Harrington. There can only be one quarterback that bad!
By toby
August 7, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
i say we should try to get pennington and then get tebow when he comes out next year
By Doug Johnson
August 7, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
I am the Falcons QB. this is my team and my house. I am the future and face of the franchise. screw matt rice, screw jd shockey, screw judy harrison.
This is my team. I am the QB. You people need to start giving me my due respect.
I am the Quarterback.
Like T.O. said ” That’s my QB” I am the QB
It Is I Sire.
Go gators. UGA is gator bait
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Whats the answer then Birddog?These morons in here thinks Shockley should start.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
get all the gators off the team
By please
August 7, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
I think DJ should be giving a chance to play but noway a starter when the season start, I also don’t think M Ryan is a bust not fair to say that yet but on the other it not fair to give him all that money either, DJ should be ahead of Jharrington who shold be working with scouts or carry water bottles.
By lacuda
August 7, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
lots of criminals too on this DAWGS team..i dnt see the merits of these nikkas..
By jamal
August 7, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
i dont say that man.I love Stafford and Brooking
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Do our fans even speak English any longer?
By lolo
August 7, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
why do you say that Jamal.Here i was,in here,agreeing with alot you said
By K_Chub
August 7, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
The DJ Shockley fanatics are no different than the Mike Vick Lunatics. Each group cares more about their guy than the overall success of the Falcons and each group thinks their guy is so freakin’ great.
What has DJ ever done to warrant all this praise? He was a good QB that one season at Georgia…how does that make him worthy of significant playing time in the NFL? David Green had a bunch of good years at Georgia and he will never amound to anything but a 3rd string QB.
All you Dawg fans should just stick to rooting for your Dawgs and leave the Falcons and the NFL to the NFL fans. I am so tired of hearing about our 4th string QB.
By jamal
August 7, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
lolo,it aint me kid.somebody done hijacked my name
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
this is the most ridiculous post since someone argued with me over which is better-MetalGear I or God of War.
By welikebaseball2
August 7, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
BLOG MODERATOR, are you okay with the non-sports-related, baiting on here? Does it matter to you? Hello…
By Deber
August 7, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Start Shockley??? Heck lets call Miami & see if we can get Quincy Carter… and whats the team of the week for David Green? Cmmmmmmmon dawg fans… you havent had a successfull NFL QB since Fran & the purple people eaters… Just keepin it real, Dawg(s)…
By toby
August 7, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
i dont think we should get quincy carter.i would like pennington to come in
By Ed
August 7, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Lofton(dawg) is an idiot. DJ Shockley is as much an NFL quarterback as Qunicy Carter. He shouldn’t be and isn’t going to start. I’ve talked to people that have been to camp that say he is the worst of the four quarterbacks on roster. He’s like Vick in that he doesn’t know if the throw is high, wide, or short.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
i would like to see D Greene personally to be the backup for Shockley this year
By TheManMike
August 7, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
I think it would be interesting to know who some of you will be selecting for your Fantasy Football teams…any birds on that list?
Anyone expect Turner to turn out good fantasy numbers, despite the general thought that our OL will be bad?
I bet Boley again pulls out the team tackle record - insights?
By jamal
August 7, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
yo,its obvious that Ed dont like Shock.Why is that Ed?I wonder….the people i talked to say he is outplaying everybody
By toby
August 7, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
Lets get Pennington.He is the best available.
By jamal
August 7, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
i aint talkin to manmike.you done stole my name and said something serious i didnt say
By AGTfan
August 7, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Fortunately, I think this coaching staff will make playing time decisions based on performance and not on the idiotic statements by the posters on this blog. I like DJ. I hope he does well. It would be great if he wins one of the QB jobs with solid performances.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
well GT fan,if they had listened to me about Favre in 91,then we wouldnt have been in this predicament now,would they?
By jamal
August 7, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
source close just told me its Redmon.Dam
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Blog Moderator: can you figure out who the jerkhole is that keeps using my screen name? Do some bad stuff to him.
By TheManMike
August 7, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Nope - it really wasnt me. I may say things on here from time to time, but im definately not down for doing somthing that lame. ITs prolly that damned whiney Tron person…he’s wiggin…
No hard feelins Jamal - If we as falcons fans can survive that 2007 campaign - i think we can survive this….We’re golden.
On another note - Im rather excited to see Ovie button hook and crush - hes such a beast. HE can be the new-age mobile OL for Turner to charge bhind….
Go Birds!
By Darrin "The Vent King"
August 7, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
I hear Byron Leftwich is still available. Why we aren’t all over him is beyond me. Guy’s great. He’s a Jacksonville guy, like Smith. What’s the deal? He’s a proven NFL WINNER!!!!!
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Darrin. He won BIG for us LAST YEAR.
By bigeasy830
August 7, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
By Ed, you are the one that made an idiotic statement. Quincy Carter was a very good young QB that was developing nicely before the drug problems. Bill Parcels and the Dolphins even gave Quincy Carter a workout recently. If a team wants to win they put their best players on the field. DJ is a great athlete with a very strong arm, he had a great senior season at UGA. All you Matt Ryan fans rave about his college career but, DJ lead UGA to the SEC title, the toughest conference in college football. To those that want argue that you must give your Big Money player Matt Ryan all the chance to succeed, well remember Heath Shuler, he was beat out by Gus Frerotte in Washington. Shuler was also the third player taken in the draft and Frerotte was a 7th round pick. If you are a Falcons fan you want the best players on the field to give your team a chance to win. I understand that Matt Ryan must be given a chance learn the NFL game before judgement of his ability can be made. But The best players should be on the field and if DJ is the best QB on the Falcons team on opening day the as a Falcons fan and a UGA and DJ fan, I would love to see him get his chance. Then next year DJ can move on to another opportunity and Matt Ryan after a little seasoning can become the starting QB and we as fans can hope for the best.
By Darrin "The Vent King"
August 7, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
I was a big Leftwich backer last year and he never had a chance. Putridrino killed the season for us. Leftwich would be the perfect guy for Malarkey’s power offense, just like Jacksonville’s.
By TheManMike
August 7, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
IF…his legs can hold out.
By jamal
August 7, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
true mike,no hard feelings.yeah you are right,this may be another 2k+ on the ground season.I cant wait.oh and another thing-i always have hope that we can contend,even more so since we are picked to be terrible.gotta have hope baby
By JasonRbach
August 7, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Is there any way we can hack into lolo’s account and ban him from any and all blog sites? Complete moron. Listen to YOU in 91 about Favre? Oh let me guess, you knew he was going to be great, right? Jeez. Root on UGA from your couch and leave the NFl conversations to people who actually have an unbiased eye. Green as DJ’s backup? I reiterate…complete moron.
Wyche, thanks for answering my question about Dahl/Forney. It will be fun to watch this play out.
By JasonRbach
August 7, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
Is there any way we can hack into lolo’s account and ban him from any and all blog sites? Complete moron. Listen to YOU in 91 about Favre? Oh let me guess, you knew he was going to be great, right? Jeez. Root on UGA from your couch and leave the NFl conversations to people who actually have an unbiased eye. Green as DJ’s backup? I reiterate…complete moron.
Wyche, thanks for answering my question about Dahl/Forney. It will be fun to watch this play out.
By Tron5000
August 7, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this
Get off of Petrinos back.He did the best he could with what he had.
By ripdog
August 7, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
Give Joey Harrington 50% of the snaps so we can possibly showcase his skills and a quality defensive back. Keep Redman, D.J., and Matt on the roster. No sense in cutting Joey or Chris when we can get some value out of them. D.J. is a nice backup but not proven. Keep him on the roster and develop him.
By lolo
August 7, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this
jason,if you think i give a rats behind about what you think.are you a retard Jason?i would definitely like Greene to be a backup compared to what Harrington has done.jason go lite up a J and have a coke and a smile,retard
By toby
August 7, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this
is Pennington still available for the Falcons to get?I say get him now and then trade Harrington for a OL player
By **butthead**
August 7, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this
Get Greene here now.we need him
By Matty Mose
August 7, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
I thought sports were suppose to bring the people of a city together. What is with all this race bullsh**? No need for honkey or bring whitey down or he can’t be our QB because he’s black. Why does it matter what color the QB is along as he is successful and wins games for us. If you suck at your position it doesnt matter if your black, white, red or yellow, you need to be gone. C’mon guys lets put the past behind us and how bout take a minute and discuss somethin else falcons related besides the QB position and MV. No need to hate. Can’t we just all get along? How bout that secondary…
By jamal
August 7, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this
told ya,Redmon
By Matt Ryan who??????
August 7, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this
How Can a QB Get a big A** contract when he hasn’t even proved himself……Not mention vick but it took him 2 years to get a monster contract. Manning, Brady got there nice contract after they proved their worth. People are talking like this man is the Lebron James of football. Come on…..people. I’m not saying he sucks….he had good career at BC……. But he shouldn’t get to this huge contract before he proves himself. Matt Ryan could potential be the best pocket QB Atlanta has ever had. Again potential…….I think Shockley, Redman, and Ryan needed the opportunity to truly compete for the starting QB position bias free. If you give a guy a 72 million dollar contract for 6 years and approxmatiely 30 million guaranteed; he your designated starter (didn’t know Falcons had money to give away). So there’s no real competition for the starting QB job. We should have put the kid out there and let the 3 QBs go for what the got…….on top of all the Atlanta has too many hole in the offense and defense that a high $ QB can’t fix. But all in all Ryan is our QB so…….GO FALCONS
By Zeb
August 8, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this
Loften and the other guys on here, I only read a couple of posts, and I’m sure there are good and bad about DJ. Yes, I’m a GA homer and would love to see what DJ can do when he’s healthy. I know the birds gave Ryan a contract that they are going to make him a starter no matter what, but dam, do you guys know how tough it is to win the SEC Championship? We just want to see. Is that too much to ask? At least give DJ a little playin time if you’re gonna trade him, cause he’s got skills and other teams need to see that. Not sayin that Ryan or Redman doesn’t, we just really haven’t seen DJ yet, so don’t count him out.
By Henry
August 8, 2008 1:43 AM | Link to this
Steve: How is Lewis doing, the DT we drafted last year who sufferd a setback while in rehab. What is the time frame for him to return? Enough of the DJ nonsense, i am a huge fan of DJ, but I don’t know that he should start, I do believe that this coaching staff is giving everyone a fair shot, and I hope DJ majes it as the No.2 QB. Go Dawgs, Go Falcons.
By zeke
August 8, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
I’m with your analysis Zeb - People don’t understand how hard it is to win championships at other levels. I say give that kid from Valdosta High School the nod based on your logic. He’s only got 12 less starts in the last 7 years as DJ so he should at least get a shot. Goooo Dawgs! Woof Woof Woof!
By billyb
August 8, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
DJ was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Ken Strickland
August 8, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
Last yr was an outright circus, and Pertino was the ring master. We can’t judge either of our 4 QB’s, except CRedmon, based on last yrs fiasco. I exempted Redmon because he got the benefit of performing without Petrino’s influence. He also performed very well with an OL comprised of 2nd and 3rd string OLinemen, as well as a converted OG, TClabo, playing RT.
This is an OFF that’s QB friendly, and the Steelers, with Big Ben, have a SB victory as proof. It’s quite possible all 4 QB’s could produce in this power run oriented OFF. We’re looking for the one’s that can excel in this system.
I’m still holding to my prediction that if the DEF holds up against the run and pass, and our OL comes together early, we will win at least 9 to 10 gms. I can see the old Dirty Bird formula that Dan Reeves established with JAnderson. Pound the DEF with the power run, forcing the DEF to bring their safeties and LB’s closer to the line of scrimmage, and then hit them with the play action pass for a big gain. We rode that formula to the Superbowl. We can at least ride it to the playoffs this yr. The difference in the two teams being the Dirty Birds DEF was much stronger at the line of scrimmage.
By LetMeThink
August 8, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Guys seriously… DJ did good things at UGA but that does not amount to much in the NFL. HE could be great but he has not shown it at this level. At best, he is a project this year. He should make the team as the 3rd String. The best he can do is make the most of it and see what chances he has as a free agent next season.
By T.C
August 8, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
TJ,college stats don’t mean jack diddley in the nfl.You commenting about what ryan leaf umm i mean matt ryan accomplished.
By WHITEMENCANJUMP.
August 8, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Tron5000,everytime i scroll down i see your name.What do you think you are?the king of ajc comment specialist.You have a lot of time on your hands,blow your candle out in your cell and go to sleep.Tron 5000,what kind of out of space name is that you MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Tron5000
August 8, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
Do you know who I am?Dont F with me.
By jrod
August 8, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Wake me up vick when is back
By Richard
August 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
Jrod,
Enjoy your 100 year nap.
By A_Town_Down
August 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
“Smith knows Jacksonville’s personnel and how head coach Jack Del Rio likely will scheme a game like this since he spent five years coaching with Del Rio in Jacksonville. So Smith will probably know when and how to best use Ryan.”
???? Is the organization trying to cover-up something until some more season tickets are sold?
People won’t buy tickets to see Chris Redman and DJ isn’t the #3 pick. Makes you say ummmmmmm!!!
By A_Town_Down
August 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
By Ed
August 7, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Lofton(dawg) is an idiot. DJ Shockley is as much an NFL quarterback as Qunicy Carter. He shouldn’t be and isn’t going to start. I’ve talked to people that have been to camp that say he is the worst of the four quarterbacks on roster. He’s like Vick in that he doesn’t know if the throw is high, wide, or short.
Ed, Quicy Carter led the Cowboys to the playoffs with TO, marion Barber, Witten, or DeMarcus Ware…
Quincy isn’t in the NFL because he’s a crackhead… Parcell just gave Carter a work-out last week even with 2 first round QB’s on his roster.
Why use Carter to trash DJ? DJ is a great kid and athlete. He may not develop into a NFL QB but no need to compare him to someone who didn’t appreciate the opportunity that Jerry Jones and Parcell gave him.
By Joebrave
August 8, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
The only reason these Atlanta Hood Rats, think D.J. Shockme should start is based on the color of his Skin,not the credentials this color-blind Negro-American brings to the field…. Don’t argue with these ghetto slum!!! What a bunch of Reverse Racists!!!
By GA All Day
August 8, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this
Is the game even on damn TV. The blackouts are already starting. Damn…
By DAWGS IN JAIL
August 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this
UGA isn’t going to win any championship with their ghetto crime sprees, suspensions and D averages in the class room.
By uga/falconsFAN
August 9, 2008 3:38 AM | Link to this
i have been looking forward to this preseason game since the last preseason game that DJ played in. I was proud to finally see the guy get a decent game situation. And if i remember correctly, DJ drove the offense down from their own twenty or something like that. I believe he got the falcons in or just outside of the red zone. im not saying he should start but id like to see him get a few reps in the preseason and hopefully make the team. Loftondawg said something about him following in the footsteps of mike vick. i honestly am not expecting that at all. IF HE GETS PLAYING TIME i dont expect to see him outside of the pocket too often. sure he had or maybe still has the ability but from what i remember reading a couple of articles and watching georgia games he mostly stayed in the pocket. Im looking forward to seeing other former dawgs getting some playing time (thomas brown, tony taylor, martrez milner.) I cant wait to see the first game of the preseason tomorrow! It will hopefully be exciting to see how the TEAM plays.
Go Falcons!!!
Go Dawgs!!!
By Tron5000
August 9, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Those last 2 honky comments were racist.
By Keeping It Real
August 9, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
If you still believe Mike Vick is innocent and/or “THE MAN,” you are both stupid AND a racist.
By uga/falconsFAN
August 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Yeah i think Ken Strickland is now the most intellegent person on this blog. That may just be because he came after two jackasses. Im looking forward to seeing the falcons play. I want to hear what people are going to say about today’s game and not why blacks are worse then the KKK you ignorant a**es
By Tron5000
August 9, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Calling Ken the most intelligent is very funny.Everyone knows that I deserve that title.I nominate myself for the most intelligent.
By Ken Strickland
August 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
rga/falconsFAN-I’m not a UGA fan, and some of them can be absolutely rediculoua, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with going all out in support of your favorite team. That’s what makes it soooo exciting on gm day, no matter who you’re supporting. And, you’re correct, it doesn’t take much to look like a genius when you’re following two absolute idiots.
As for football, I’m really excited about the direction Smith and his staff are taking the Falcons. The last 2 Falcon HC’s that emphasized the basics and established a power rushing OFF were Leeman Bennett, with the GRITS BLITZ, and Dan Reeves, with the DIRTY BIRDS. In the 3yrs we led the NFL in rushing under HC JMora, our OL had to open holes that would allow our 186lb RB RDunn to get past the line of scrimmage. With our current RB’s, 255lb FB Mughelli and 238lb MTurner who’s as fast as WDunn, our OL only has to make an opening.
If we successfully establish an effective rushing OFF, everything else will evolve off of that. To stop us, teams will have to crowd the line of scrimmage, which will leave them open for big pass plays off play action. That was the staple of the GRITS BLITZ, with QB SBartkowki and the DIRTY BIRDS, with QB CChandler. I’m not really worried about the OFF as much as our DEF, especially our pass DEF. However, if we can get an effective pass rush, we can better protect our young and inexperienced CB’s. I think having GJackson back, having a MLB with the instincts and physical tools to play the position, and having KBrookings at OLB, instead of DWilliams, will help us tremendously against the run.
The way our coaching staff is developing this OFF, there won’t be any undue pressure, on any one player or position, to make it work. The OL will be complimented by having 2 big, strong RB’s. The QB position will have a power rushing OFF and play action to take the pressure off of the position and the OL. Our WR’s will have the advantage of knowing DB’s will have to provide additional run support, and react to play action, instead of locking down on them. THIS SYSTEM WORKS.
The individual linemen on the DIRTY BIRDS OL, that led us to the SB, weren’t any more talented than what we now have. Only 2 of them lasted or managed to start for any other team after leaving the Falcons. They were OG RGaza of the SB Bears, and C RTobeck of the Sea Hawks. DON’T UNDERESTIMATE THESE FALCONS AND WHAT THIS COACHING STAFF CAN ACCOMPLISH.
By Tron5000
August 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
God ken,that book you just wrote was stupid.
By rjjay
August 9, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
All of you Bulldog Fans keep saying start DJ lets keep it real. The man sat on the bench in college for 3 years and you want him to start in the NFL. I don’t care who he was behind the fact is he did not start, if he was as good as you Bulldogs think he is then he would earn some time like Brodie Croyle.(Alabama Football Is Back)
By QBALL
August 9, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
amen rj-ROLL TIDE
By Ken Strickland
August 9, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
MORON5000-it’s obvious you are seeking attention for yourself, so I’ll give you a little. I can see why you nominated yourself as the most intelligent, since you’d never get anyone else to do it. After proclaiming yourself most intelligent, you contradicted that very assumption with your last statement.
You claimed the entire post was stupid, but you carefully avoided specifying a single instance where I was incorrest or in anyway off base. I guess you’re saying a good pass rush isn’t beneficial to a secondary. Or, having big, strong RB’s isn’t beneficial to an OL. Or, having a solid running gm, which promotes play action, isn’t beneficial to a passing OFF, QB or OL. Or, are you saying HC Dan Reeves’ DIRTY BIRD Falcons didn’t go to the Superbowl. Or, I was totally wrong about HC Leeman Bennett’s GRITS BLITZ and their power running OFF with FB WAndrews and HB LCain.
You obviously disagree with my assessment that a strong rushing attack forces DEF’s to crowd the line of scrimmage and opens the DEF up for play action passes. COME ON YOU LITTLE ATTENTION DEPRIVED MORON, TELL EVERYONE EXACTLY WHAT’S SO STUPID ABOUT MY COMMENTS.
THERE IS AN OLD SAYING THAT’S VERY APROPOS, AND IT SAYS “ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS”. SO FAR, YOU’VE VERBALLY PROCLAIMED YOURSELF AS BEING MOST INTELLIGENT. HOWEVER, YOU’VE DEMONSTRATED BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, YOU’RE A MORON THAT’S TOO STUPID TO REALIZE IT. FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO PLAY WITH, YOU LITTLE ATTENTION CRAVING CLOWN.
By Tron5000
August 9, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
Do you know who I am?To rationalize an argument using Leeman Bennett as an example is crazy.Times have changed my friend.Its obvious also that having a top rushing offense may win games but does not win championships.Lets get into the 21st century.Its good to not underestimate these Falcons,but it just makes you look stupid.Dont F with me ken because you will lose.
By Lee H
August 9, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
Wow,Ken just got served.
By elvis
August 9, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
dang-looks like we have a winner{TRON}
By pete
August 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
Tron is right.You are using like old guys to justify what we should do.We still didnt win the SB then dummy!
By Ken Strickland
August 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this
TRON5000-you are so full of yourself that you can’t smell the gas that’s coming out of you A$$, and it’s located between your ears. Let me give you an example of how ignorant you are. You made the following statement, ” HAVING A TOP RUSHING OFFENSE MAY WIN GAMES, BUT DOES NOT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS”. Tell me, have you ever heard of any football team winning a championship without winning gms? Can you grasp that?
You are obviously lacking in basic comprehensive skills. My comments were about the current Falcons, and the references to Leeman Bennett was used as a comparison to show the relationship that exists between the present HC’s approach to winning and Bennetts. Apparently you are ignorant of the past of which I spoke.
You know, there is an old saying that fits this situation to a tee. It goes, “NEVER GET INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH AN IDIOT, FOR HE WILL DEFEAT YOU WITH HIS VAST EXPERIENCE. ENOUGH SAID.
By Tron5000
August 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
Your old saying fits you to a T.You are such an idiot.I do not want to live in the past,unlike yourself.I want to improve and forget the past.Lets just get along nerd and agree to disagree.I win
By Ken Strickland
August 9, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this
I’ll repeat, “NEVER GET INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH AN IDIOT, FOR HE WILL ONLY DEFEAT YOU WITH HIS VAST EXPERIENCE”, and you just declared yourself the winner, WOW! One last bit or wisdom, IF ONE FORGETS OR DOES NOT KNOW HIS PAST, HE IS DOMED TO REPEAT IT. Maybe you should spend a little time reseaching some of the wisdom of the past, then maybe, just maybe, there won’t be so many of you 21st century dumba$$’s.
I’m not certain you are evem cognizant enough to comprehend what the statements mean. And judging from your little cheering squad, you’re not the only ANAL MINDED MORON frequenting these blogs.
By Sister Falcon
August 9, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this
Strickland, from what I hear about your dating practices, there is no other Falcons Fan with “ANAL” on the brain more than you.
I hear it is “Urban Night” in Hell, Strickland. Why don’t you go there to hang out and keep it real with your favorite “King of Comedy?”
By mike
August 10, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
The falcons did great espescially at qb, one slight problem. They lost the game. You would not get this from reading the AJC and the rest of the local sports writers. Does that mean the almosts will be counted this year?
By Ken Strickland
August 10, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
SISTER FALCON-by making that little mindless, dillusional retort, you just identified and classified yourself as one of the ANAL MINDED MORONS I previously referenced. WOW, THE 21ST CENTURY DUMBA$$ES ARE STARTING TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.
I’VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS. SO I’LL JUST LEAVE YOU IGNORANT, CLUELESS MORONS TO YOURSELVES AND STICK TO DISCUSSING FALCONS FOOTBALL.
By mose
August 10, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
It doesnt really matter if we won or lost since its preseason. Besides, in a real game we wouldn’t have DJ Shockley in there.
By virginia falcon
August 10, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Jammal Anderson weak, John Abraham tweaked, everyone excited about a rookie QB, yeah 5-11 will look good from here.
By jhayesbulldognation
August 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Shockley looked so good! Of the four qb’s he was the only one that showed true athleticism breaking tackles, running different plays, even calling the time out showed great clock management skills. None of the other three could have done what he did. Too bad we did not get the Win. Atlanta fans are so fair weathered. I sense that some bulldog blood is just what this team needs for a more solid fan base. Also being the city of diversity that we are, there is a large part of the current Falcons fan base that want to see an African American in the spot. Shockley is such a win-win for Atlanta’s morale after last year and if he continues to play like he did last night we will be celebrating some wins on the scoreboard. GO DJ!
By Ken Strickland
August 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
VIRGINIA FALCON-I agree, it’s premature to get overly optimistic about preseason performances, especially if it’s the 1st preseason gm. However, it’s just as premature to get overly pessimistic about the same performances. The starting OFF/DEF lineups aren’t set and there’s little to no gm planning during preseason, especially early preseason. Everyone is playing it conservatively, and there can be little continuity with 1st, 2nd and 3rd string players rotating in and out of the lineup, including players that won’t even be on the roster in the next few weeks.
Remember, we could have tied the gm twice with a field goal in the closing seconds, but chose not to do so. We would have gone for the tie during the regular season. RB Turner gained 22yds on 5 carries. Do you think he’d only get 5 carries during the regular season, or that Jacksonville’s RB FTaylor would have been kept out of the gm? This gm and the teams overall performance is what it is, preseason, and nothing more. It’s too early to pass judgement.