Falcons

By James T.

August 4, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

One question you forgot:

• When will D.J. Shockley be sent packing (after the Falcons wasted a 7th round pick on this bust)?

By HIGHPOWEREDOFFENSE

August 4, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

FYI James T D.J. SHOCKLEY IS DOING GREAT IN CAMP! HE WON’T BE SENT PACKING, MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!!

By UGABOZ

August 4, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

james t how is a 7th rounder a bust. dumbest thing i have heard in a long time. jamal anderson is a bust 16 games no sacks, you are a UGA hater and i love it. #1 and it hurts you so much

By Russ

August 4, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Are the TE’s catching balls in practice ?

I heard over the weekend they looked pretty rough catching the ball at the scrimmages at Mill Creek and the Dome ?

On a side note. I can’t wait to see Turner run at 100 % the first pre-season game. Hopefully he can give us the power running game we have lacked and sorely missed in the red zone.

By Easy E

August 4, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Yeah dude is tripping, can’t be a bust if you are drafted after the 5th round and I bet he beats Matt Ryan out for the job, stronger arm and can run. Did you see hoe soft matt ryan throws at the Sat practice game!!!!! He’s going to have a long season if he sees the field, GO UGA and Shockley!!!!! Oh and free Mike Vick so he can play some where else! LOL

By RH

August 4, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

I just do not get the Falcons thought process. I went to the Mill Creek scrimage and DJ looked by far the best QB. He was the most accurate and by far the most mobile. Lets face it the Falcons are going to be AWFUL this year, but I would turn on the TV to watch DJ. I will not turn it on to watch Redman or Harrington. I like Ryan’s potential but he is at least a year away - did not look good during scrimage. All you DJ haters need to get a life - you have no facts to back up your hate for him.

By #1

August 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

UGABOZ

How is Georgia doing in the bar fights? A few more of those and your season will be like Miamis a few years back!

By James R.

August 4, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

The only QB getting cut will be Joey Harrington. Shockley has a bigger upside.

By Greg

August 4, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

Thanks Orlando. Could you and Steve please try to do some interviews with assistant coaches? We’re all real hungry for information about the re-building of this team. Anything on what schemes will be run on offense and defense, and especially on player competition at various positions, would be great. What I’m getting at is: p-l-e-a-s-e more stuff! Thanks.

By Eric H

August 4, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

I cant wait to see this team get its brusies. Jamal Anderson hasn’t gotten a sack his whole carrier, oh yeah, he got one against his own team the other day. I am not going to even comment on the Shockley bash.

By falcon gator

August 4, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Yes, Shockley does have a stronger arm. He just lacks that key ingredient between his ears, as evidenced by where he went to school.

By pigskin70

August 4, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

What can it hurt to play D.J.? He is from a winning program and can’t hurt something that is already hurt. He needs a chance.

Oh, by the way, Georgia will no longer be called the Bulldogs, but the “Crime-dogs.” Richt needs to get hold of the situation. Image means a lot.

By ugaboz

August 4, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

By pigskin

August 4, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Give D.J. a chance. He is from a winning program and can’t hurt something that is already hurt.

Oh, by the way, Georgia will no longer be known as the Bulldogs, but now the “Crime-Dogs.” Richt needs to get hold of some of those “spoiled” young men.

By JD

August 4, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Easy E—You sound dumbmer than a sack of rocks.

By JD

August 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Easy E—You sound dumbmer than a sack of rocks.

By Will

August 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

No facts to bash D.J.?

FACT: He was 3 for 11 in the scrimmage. He Does not have an accurate arm.

FACT: He is too short to be an NFL QB.

FACT: He barely made the team after he was drafted (in the 7th round).

FACT: He is too small and brittle to be in the NFL (he got hurt after barely being touched in a pre-season game).

FACT: If shockley had not gone to UGA (a.k.a. Felony U.), he would have been cut a long time ago.

By Milton Jeff

August 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Any updates on Ovie? Abe? Health etc?

By CHARLES BURTON

August 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Poor DJ everyone at the dome sat saw what we will looking at this year. MATT is not ready, and joey is horrible LET REDMAN AND DJ BATTLE FOR THE THIS YEAR AND LET MATT GET SOME EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE HE IS NOT READY. I REALLY HOPE THEY DON’T CUT DJ, HARRINGTON NEEDS TO GO, JOE HORN NEEDS TO GO TOO.

By Hamp

August 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

I really think this team will be better than anyone thinks. I worry more about he OL than the CB positions. Smitty has proven that his defenses do not need superstar CBs and Jax never had that good of a pass rush. With G-Jack commanding two lineman maybe it will help the pash rush. I can’t believe J Anderson will have a year like last year. I hope the brass are smart enough to see the advantage of keeping shockey over J harrington I like him but he has had his shots in the NFL. I think Shockey will turn out to be a good NFL quarterback especially in a run first offense.

By ED

August 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

D.J. SHOCKLEY WILL WIND UP BEING THE STARTING QB BEFORE THE SEASON IS OVER!!!!!!!!

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

No Vick = Losing Season….Again

I gurantee it.

By RH

August 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Will, if you argue with an idiot you are an idiot - I am not going to argue with you when your facts are stupid “barely made the team after being drafted in the 7th round” Please - that’s all you got - how many 7th rounders make a team?

By UGA UGA UGA

August 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

This is so ridiculous. DJ Shockley a bust? He’s a 7th round project QB. Those guys can’t be busts. I don’t think DJ is going to be sent packing. Matt Ryan is obviously going to either start or be in the “Sit and learn, come off the bench for a series or two per game backup QB” so that means DJ is likely going to be the #3 QB. Teams seem to keep developmental type guys like DJ as the 3rd qb. I think if anyone is going to get cut, its going to be Joey. You know what he is, and you aren’t going to win with him and his presence will just take reps away from the other guys you want to develop.

By weir6@hotmail.com

August 4, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Let’s trade Joey “Blue Skies” Harrington now. We can probably get a veteran position player for him.

By B.O.P.

August 4, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Vick Supporter:

Michael Vick is serving a federal prison sentence. That doesn’t do the team much good does it?

Neither did his inacurrate passes, his using drugs, his flipping off the fans, or his pleading guilty to federal dog fighting charges.

Face it, vick is a loser.

By Paul A

August 4, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

DJ … I have to agree with Will about one thing. Shockley isn’t tough enough for the NFL. The guy is made of glass and just can’t take the big hits. He has a decent arm and speed but lacks endurance.

Matt Ryan … He certainly isn’t a very big lad is he? He looked tiny and out of place on Saturday at the dome. I can’t believe he got all that money and hasn’t even played a “big-boy” game yet.

Harrington … At least he’s got a few chops.

2008-09 Season … I’m thinking more like 2009-10.

On a positive note… The upgrades to the GA Dome were way overdue. It does look a lot better in there.

hee, hee … UGA has more problems with the law. Just when ya’all Dawgs thought you had it all wrapped up…. #1 ????

Go Gators.

By tj

August 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

DJ Schockley and M. Vick are the same height, both standing 6’-0” tall, so how is DJ Shockley too short to play in the NFL, you all need to face the fact that this year is DJ’s year to shine!!!!

By SCBird

August 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Sounds encouraging, but there are way too many quality receivers in the NFC South for Dimitroff not to be calling Lito Shepphard. We really can use him.

By Falcon Fan

August 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

VICK SUPPORTER - Jesus, give it up you moron! He is a lying, cheating thug with no future. If you support him so much, send him some money is jail to help out with his impending bankruptcy. Or maybe you mean you are Vick’s athletic supporter, actually that makes more sense reading your inane comment over and over each week.

By Jeffrey

August 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

FACT: He was 3 for 11 in the scrimmage. He Does not have an accurate arm.

This remains to be seen, he hasn’t played enough.

FACT: He is too short to be an NFL QB.

He is 6 feet tall, not the prototypical size, but not too short. Vick was 6 feet tall. Montana, Mcnabb, Tarkenton are some examples under 6’2”, and they are pretty darn good.

FACT: He barely made the team after he was drafted (in the 7th round).

Barely? He beat out Bryan Randall (not too hard to do) he wasn’t going to be the starter (Vick) or back up (Shaub).

FACT: He is too small and brittle to be in the NFL (he got hurt after barely being touched in a pre-season game).

The injury he sustained has nothing to do with being brittle or small, it’s something that just happens on turf. Just ask Jamal Anderson, he isn’t brittle or small and he suffered the same injury…twice!

FACT: If shockley had not gone to UGA (a.k.a. Felony U.), he would have been cut a long time ago.

How so? He played as the third stringer as a rookie and got hurt last year, why would you cut him? It’s not like he’s a journeyman that’s been in the league for years, give the man a chance!

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

B.O.P., On the field, he wasn’t. He made this sorry a$$ franchise relevant. There won’t be a televised game in atlanta for the next 5-10 years. Vick carried this sorry franchise on his back and you know it, you just don’t have the balls to admit it. Inaccurate passes? What about the hundreds of passes that were dropped, as was the problem in their recent scrimmage? At least I’m man enough to admit that #7 messed up big time, and he deserved to go to jail, not for 2 years, but it already written in stone. Vick could beat out all of the “QBs” even after having 3 years off. You have your “pocket passer” now. Lets see what he does when the defense is in the backfield as soon as Ryan takes the snap. You people say you want DJ to start because he has mobility. When you had the most gifted player in the history of the NFL on you rteam, you people blamed him for everything. Thats why I hate the falcons. Arthur Blank handled the situation the way he was supposed to handle it, I actually respect him. Its you fans that are the idiots. No matter what Vick did on the field, you people complained and expected him to be perfect. Vick worked miracles with nothing. Its virtually the same team that Vick had, and I can’t wait to see how Ryan handles the pressure, although he won’t be criticized as much because he’s white. Its a shame

By Theyhateme.

August 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Will, you posts your points like there right and your accurate.You don’t know nothing, your posting what you heard.Stop hating on UGA #1.You think you can be a starter?yea you probably can so bring me my water like a good boy.when you dip that cup in the water to bring it to the players,you need to work on your speed else your getting cut.

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Falcon Fan, to my knowledge, this is an open forum. If you don’t like what I have to say, don’t read it my caucasian friend.

Regard, Vick Supporter

By B.O.P.

August 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Vick Supporter/Falcon Hater:

Virtually the same team? Are you smoking the same weed as vick?

Do the names Hall, Crumpler, Dunn, Kerney ring a bell?

Moron.

By Phillip

August 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

shut your pie-holes about Vick….he’s gone - GIVE IT UP!!!*

By DawgBoy

August 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Why are they targeting DJ Shokley? The AJC racists are at it again!!!lol….He hasnt been on the feild long enough to have problems....but here we go....the BLOG NAZIS are at it again,,,lol...its so funny its crazy….By the way he isn`t even the starter and they are STILL talking about him!!! Here we go again!!!

By Easy E

August 4, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

JD, go kick a big a$$ rock! Like Vick supporter said, Mike messed up but the falcons are going to have a long way to go without him and when you have to give a free mock game to get fans in to buy seats; there is a problem! Regardless of what people think, good or bad….Mike Vick was the face of the franchise and carried the team and I hope he goes to a team and city that respects his talent and winning ability! Chumps and start DJ if you wanna win

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

B.O.P., pretty much the same team sir. How about answering my questions? Coward.

By Theyhateme.

August 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Thats right VICKsupporter,they act like just because they don’t like VICK,nobody else suppose to like him.that sounds real racist to me.fans:vick can’t do this,vick didn’t do that,vicks this,vicks that.if you don’t like him why even comment?people can like who they want to without your permission.they favorite response is,”vicks in jail” like people don’t know that.

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Easy E!! What’s up? Man these people hate me on here. I’m expressing my opinion just like they are, yet they get so p**. i guess they have to much pride to admit that Vick carried this team on his back and was blamed for everything. I can remember someone on here blaming Vick for the kicking game,lol. Clowns

By He Hate Me

August 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

The Falcons need to sign me. I am only 31 years old and have got plenty of game left.

_ Rod Smart

By marko

August 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

My guess is the Falcon’s won’t run on the Jag’s starters, but when the starters come out the birds should start to take over the game. Jacksonville played well last year so their back-ups are playing for bench space. The Falcon’s second and third teamers have real chances of earning starting jobs. Expect to see a little more motivation on our side of the ball. The Jag’s should win the first half, but the Falcon’s should win the game. I know it’s just pre-season, but after last year I’ll take whatever we can get.

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Theyhateme, you’re 100% correct. I get that all the time from them people

By mars

August 4, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

I read through the comments and, like always, when someone disagrees with Vick Supporter he suddenly starts spouting that ignorant racism. I’m beginning to think that your support for that Criminal is simply an example of your own accute racism, Supporter. What a hater!

By Richard

August 4, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

Hey Vick Supporter,

How did the Falcons do last time Vick was the starting QB? I believe they ended the season in the bottom third of the league. In other words, they were an awful team.

Not saying Ryan is going to be better, but don’t pretend that Vick was some kind of Hall of Fame caliber quarterback.

By Easy E

August 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Yes sir Vick supporter, look here…..I can’t even make it a black and white thing because Vick has black haters and white but it’s also white fans that stood up for him but everything is Mike’s fault…let just say he got hurt last year, they still had the same sorry team that couldn’t carry on…it was just a eye opener that the last few drafts suck and Rick Mckay is a deadbeat with a 7 figure salary

By lolbutthurtVickFans

August 4, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

rofl at the morons still defending Vick - hey guys, here’s a clue. No one cares that Vick is black. What they seem to care about more is 1. Vick wasn’t a very good QB and 2. Vick is a freaking FELON. If matt ryan doesnt get too much criticism next season its because he’s a ROOKIE. He’s pretty much guaranteed to suck. Also, this falcons team is a WHOLE HELL of a lot worse than anything Vick had to work with. I’d be shocked if this team won 3 games, and that’s WITH Matt Ryan not falling totally flat on his face. Get over it; vick stunk and is a terrible human being and now he’s gone. I think you are more upset that he was run out of town and now a WHITE DUDE is the QB for the Falcons. Who’s the racist now?

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Easy E, I agree w/that. i just find it funny that these very people were at the games cheering their asses off, and now he’s a loser. i just call it how I see it. i really don’t want it to be a race thing, but all you see on here is “Vick’s a thug” and all that other BS. It’s funny how they did the same things to Deion and Nique when they played here, ran them out of town. I know a few white fans that do support him. My main reason for supporting him besides him being my favorite player is that I like to see people redeem themselves, white or black. I wouldn’t mind seeing Harrington prove people wrong, but that will never happen.

By DirtyDawg

August 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

There’s such a thing as blind loyalty - which some of us here certainly have…and there’s such a thing as blind prejudice and bigotry - which still more have. All you gators out there, there’s a reason they call the lowest end-of-the-species, ‘lizard-brained’, because you demonstrate it on a daily basis - if not more often.

By Mike

August 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

D.J. was a great college quarterback that rather than bolting UGA as a back-up to David Greene, he stayed with the program and had an excellent senior year. His loyalty was admired. He could have started for most programs as a sophomore.

By sacrificing those years, he lost a lot of reps and experience. If some team is willing to spend some time and effort with him, he would make a great back-up and bring a scrambling speed option to the standard drop-back formation. D.J. was loyal to UGA and we are to him.

By Jason

August 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

I never comment on these blogs, but there is some stupid stuff being said. First of all, why do people have to keep bringing race up. Vick is in jail, because he fought dogs and is a complete idiot. I don’t care how good he WAS, he blew it and any white person fighting dogs would have been treated the same way. As for the height comparison, who cares if Shockley is Vick’s height, Vick’s playmaking ability compensated for that, and DJ will NEVER have that. He’s not an NFL QB and Ryan is the right height and has great accuracy. He just needs time to adjust to the speed of the NFL. I bet he play’s by mid-season. But seriously, who cares about Vick anymore. It’s a dead subject and there’s no use talking about someone who will never play another down for us again, and who never really had any passing ability to begin with. He just used his feet to make plays. And as everyone can see, his numbers went down every year, cause defenses figured out how to defend him anyway. SO DROP IT!!!

By atl-fan

August 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Paul A:

What a idiot! DJ Shockley isn’t tough enough for the NFL? He is the best chance the Falcons have to winning this season. With the weak offensive line and the impact of the premier pass rushers in our division, you better have a QB that can move around in the pocket.

Have you forgotten that the Saints have 2 nice Defensive Ends and just drafted Cedric Ellis at DT. The Bucs have Gains Adams—Carolina has Peppers— and we have a Rookie possibly starting at Left tackle.

Then what do you think about Chris Redman and Joey “Smoey” Harrington? I can’t believe that either of those guys are collecting NFL checks… Joey Harrington is a bust (#3 pick in the NFL draft) and the fact that the Falcons have resigned him to a 2yr deal indicates that I made the right decision to forgo my season tickets, which I have held for the past 10 season.

I don’t believe many of you bloggers have any idea about football… Please don’t write on this blog again!

Cheers,

Atl~Fan

By Doug Johnson

August 4, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

remember me folks former gator. I am going to make you forget about mv7 and matt schaub.

Well I am back and this time I will take you to the promised land. if it wasn’t for the uga folks I would be leading the dirty birds right now.

Go gators. chomp da dawgs.

I approve this post.

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

lolbutthurtVickFans, why can’t i be a fan of my favorite player? Why can’t I want him to redeem himself, like he will? I’m sure you would like to see Pete Rose get in the hall of fame, as he should be, there’s nothing wrong with that. Now, as far as Vick sucking as a qb, that is incorrect. #1. Arthur sure didn’t seem to think so, having given him a 130 million contract. #2. The dome was sold out every game for 7 years. #3. You judge a qb by WINS, not qb ratings and passing percentages. having a winnig record as a starter means you’re a pretty good qb. How many good qbs can you name that had winning records as starter and sucked as a qb. if there is some, there’s not very many of them. If he sucks so badly, why has the entire franchise from the top down fallen apart? Why cant they complete a pass? Why can’t they run the ball anymore? Why can’t they do anything but go 4-12 and be the laughing stock of the NFL if Vick sucks so badly? Whatever excuses you make, I can say one thing, you came to the games to see Mike Vick, as did the rest of the city. Vick’s gone and now you can hear crickets in the dome, lol. Franchises don’t totally fall apart if they lose a qb that sucks. Bottom line

By Stephen

August 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

I am a white male who LOVED Vick. I was a big fan of his in college, and was thrilled when the Falcons drafted him. I always defended him to some ignorant people who didn’t like him because of his race. I stood behind him with the flipping off and even the Miami water bottle episode. When he was accused of dog-fighting, I told people to wait for the facts, innocent until proven guilty, and he professed innocence. When he admitted guilt and I found out he was lying to Mr. Blank and all of the fans, I felt betrayed by a guy that I had always rooted for and defended. Yes, he carried the Falcons, but he lied to the team and the city. I hope he gets out and can resume his life, but the Falcons have to move on from the mess he created. I was a fan of the Falcons before him and I will pull for them after. I just want the blog to be about the players we have and the problems we face. I wish we could quit talking about Vick or anyone else that is not here.

Also, please quit acting like the Falcons gave up on Vick, and as a result deserve to lose. You think they wanted him to fight dogs and go to jail? I think they wanted nothing more than for him to be innocent and QB the team last year and for the next decade. HE prevented that. So please, no more shots at the Falcons for Vick being gone.

By Easy E

August 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

yes sir, everyone should get a second chance in life….all these people have made mistakes in life, but 1 man was just put on center stage to be the fall guy, how does a guy that threw games and showed the NBA has a deeper problem and lost team games and money get 15 months and a man that killed a chump a$$ dog get almost 2 years. It’s all good though, we will see how long Matty Ryan last in that pocket with a sorry o line that never could block, so people wonder why Mike ran all the time…hell I wouldn’t let a 320 pound guy land on me!

By Jack G

August 4, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Its my understanding tha Vick can no longer play so he is to be put down. So this ends the Vick era and no further mention of Vick needs to be made.

As to picking on Vick because of his color——i wonder if you would defend him if he was purple.

By mars

August 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Them people!?! Just what do you mean by them people? Mmmm-hmmm! Sounds like racist trash to me!

By ATLplayer

August 4, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Guess what…Vick is still on the FALCONS roster!!! What do you take from that??? Love him or hate him he’s still a Falcon. Yes I’m aware Matt Ryan was drafted in the First Round. Yes I know he (Ryan) is suppose to be the future. But do YOU know Vick is still on the roster?

By Doug Johnson

August 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

yo vick supporter give it a rest. are you on the dawg killa’s payroll.

I am thw saviour remeber me folks. i am the saviour. don’t worry about the qb position anymore. i have it covered.

go gators. athens is full of crime dawgs.

By Theyhateme.

August 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Mars,your comments don’t count because your from another planet.were humans down here,not a monster.

By A_Town_Down

August 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Matt Ryan CANNOT throw a deep out.

He was inaccurate in college.

His TD/INT ratio was consistently lose to 1.

He was the 4th best QB in the ACC during his senior year (Cullen Harper, Matt Grothe, and Jameel Sewell).

His contract contract is $74 million more than DJ’s?

IMO, the defening silence on Ryan from Falcon insiders is TELLING. This guy was the #3 pick. The only consistent praise is his command of the offensive huddle. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

How people are going back and forth over DJ Shockley… you would think DJ was the $75 million #3 pick in the draft.

By Milton Jeff

August 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

I can remember some other late rounds QB picks that turned out to be pretty damn good..See Tom Brady. So give Shockley credit where it is due. If he performs better than Joey, Chris, Matt..give him the ball. To the Vick haters & supporters..why are we still arguing about this? Whats done is done. He was the face of the franchise..thats in the past now. Whether we will stink for the next few years is up to the current players & staff. Vick was Vick..he made his choices, now he must pay the consequences. Lets move on PLEASE!!

By AlohaGator

August 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

The Falcons should trade every player on the team for Brett Favre.

By bart starr

August 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Jack g,who are you to tell people what they can or can’t post?Who gave you the bully award?I will post and comment on whatever the hell i please to comment about.You MORON!!!!!

By J Rich

August 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

I wasn’t at the scrimmage on Friday night, but I saw the simulated game at the dome. I don’t know if Shockley will be the starter but he gave the best showing on Saturday and should receive strong consideration for a roster spot. He did more with less talent.

I think Ryan still has a lot to learn. I’m not sure if he has a strong enough arm or his anticipation isn’t their yet. The interceptions he threw I hope are just rookie mistakes and not lack of ability.

I don’t see the value of Joey Harrington on this team. I think Ryan is the future, and Redman or Shockley are the present, no matter how short term this may be.

Norwood looked lightning quick as usual. Turner ran well. Douglass seemed to catch everything thrown his way. On Defense Blue made some standout plays. I look forward to seeing the Jacksonville preseason game.

By Hollywould

August 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Stephen, nice post man. I was the same way about Vick although like most of the fools on this blog I am a season ticket holder since the dome opened. I did not get season tickets because of Vick. I got them because I am a falcon fan. That is the problem with ( i will use a phrase we read earlier) THEM people is they only care for Vick and his color. The hell with them/I will be there next sat. nite.

By Williams

August 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

A Town Down -

Matt Ryan was the 4th best qb in the ACC his senior year??? Is that why he was named ACC player of the year and won the Archie Manning Golden Arm award for the Nation’s best quarterback??

Enough of your nonsense.

By A_Town_Down

August 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait for the moment when Matt Ryan’s play make us go…

Uh-Oh… Dn, Dn, Dn, Dnnnnnn!!!

Matt Ryan will be working in the booth for college football by 2011, counting Mr. Blank’s money.

By Hollywould

August 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Sorry, should have read UNLIKE most of these fools. The dumbing down on this blog got to me.

By Whitemencanjump.

August 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Aloha gator,don’t nobody want no brett farve.They got him all over the network like he won the last 10 superbowls.like he’s the jordan or bird of the nfl.you have him you bulldawg hater!

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Stephen, i totally agree w/your post. I’ve never blamed the Falcons for giving up on Vick, so i don’t know where you got that from. Arthur Blank did what he thought was best for his franchise. As you know I support Vick, but i don’t condone what he did. the reason i hate the Falcons is because if the way vick was treated by the fans. “He has braids, he listens to rap music, he doesn’t pass for 300 yards enough, blah blah blah”. This man was blamed for everything, and he made us relevant. When he flipped off the fans, they deserved it. i wonder how those fans would react if you’re out busting your a* to win and they boo you because they don’t like the way you look, braids, etc etc etc. The man wasn’t allowed to have a bad game, but I bet Ryan will be able to have alot of them for years to come and people will make excuses for him. thats just my opinion.

By Jason

August 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Vick Supporter:

I came to see the Falcons before VICK was there, which I’m sure most didn’t. The reason the dome sold out is because he was the most explosive athlete in the NFL, or any sport, not for his passing ability. But if you want to talk about his winning record, let’s look at the trend. He went from 9-6-1, to 11-5 (best record), to 8-8, to 7-9, in a season which we struggled to score at all once the option plays stopped working after like the 2nd game of the season. People came to watch Vick cause he was exciting. By the way, we havn’t made the playoffs since 2004, with the GREAT MIKE VICK!!! Get over it!!!

By Williams

August 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Vick supporter, I think it’s more like this: “He has braids, he listens to rap music, he doesn’t pass for 300 yards enough, he can’t lead the team to more than 7 wins, he’s inaccurate, he flipped the fans a bird, he smokes marijuana and smuggles it in the airport, he pled guilty to federal dog fighting charges, he was banned for life by the NFL, he is locked up in a federal prison after bilking the franchise out of millions and millions and millions of dollars, blah blah blah.

By Bart starr

August 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Hollywould,did someone pump your head up with PRIDE.your posting these fools like your GODS gift to the world.next time you take a dump don’t forget to remember that it stank to high heaven.oh,and your life has an experation date too.So holly would you change that pink finger nail polishon your toes to a different color.holly would do anything,anything?yep.bend over!

By Bart starr

August 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Hollywould,did someone pump your head up with PRIDE.your posting these fools like your GODS gift to the world.next time you take a dump don’t forget to remember that it stank to high heaven.oh,and your life has an experation date too.So holly would you change that pink finger nail polishon your toes to a different color.holly would do anything,anything?yep.bend over!

By Paul A

August 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Why are we still taking about MV7? He was a good player but he was also a dumba$$.

Can we please stop arguing about him? He’s gone. He ain’t going to play in ATL again … Maybe somewhere else but not here. It’s over. Move on.

RIP Skip. You will be missed by all Braves fans.

By Old School Al

August 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick was always a blown out knee away from being a janitor. I watched Matt Ryan since his high school days in the Philadelphia area.

Sure, there is a maturation process to the professsional level but this kid will handle all aspects of the game - on and off the field - with a maturity beyond his years.

Great pick; great player; better PERSON!!

By Bureau of Prisons

August 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Vick Supporter:

Please answer these two questions:

What good can Vick do the falcons while he is (a) locked up in federal prison, and (b) banned for life from the NFL?

By Ex - QB coach

August 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Look at the picture of Shockley and Ryan and tell me who is in a better position to deliver the football. Fundamentals, gentleman, it all starts with the fundamentals!

By Elvis lives.

August 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

William and Jason,seems to me that you know this guys every move to dislike him so much.What are you proving?you have not mentioned anything thats already been said.why you know so much about a person you hate?I bet every time you get you log on the ajc and go strait to the vick section.LOL.you gails are probably room mates that have a cabinet full of vasiline and jerk off looking at vick posters.Two dumb MORONS!

By Elvis lives.

August 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

William and Jason,seems to me that you know this guys every move to dislike him so much.What are you proving?you have not mentioned anything thats already been said.why you know so much about a person you hate?I bet every time you get you log on the ajc and go strait to the vick section.LOL.you gails are probably room mates that have a cabinet full of vasiline and jerk off looking at vick posters.Two dumb MORONS!

By Hollywould

August 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Bart, You make too easy fool.

By Hollywould

August 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Bart, You make it too easy fool.

By Like it is

August 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

I love how this works. You read an article on a scrimmage game and it becomes an “I love Vick so much I’ll suck his d*&K” blog. I’m glad there are people who still support this psycho. It lets me know I’m not as crazy as I thought I was.

By Hollywould

August 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Bart, You make it too easy. Case Closed.

By LoganDawg

August 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Anybody knows that even a mediocre QB from the SEC is more suited for the NFL than a great QB from the ACC.

That is why shockley should get the nod over Ryan at quarterback for the falcons. Shockley is definitely the face and the future of this falcons franchise. He has prioved so much in camp already that even coach smith has vbeen raving about his performance.

Do not be surprised to see Ryan on the trading blok after Shockley shows what he can do the UGA way! He is the next best thing after vick to bring the falcons back!

Go Shockley!

Go Dawgs!

By Fan since 66

August 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Trade a tight end for Brett Favre. Ain’t that what we got for him originally? Please shut about Vick (let sleeping or dead dogs lie).

By WHITEMENCANJUMP.

August 4, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Vicks a legend,thats why all the white people dislike him and always talking negative towards him.Gee,you would think this guy killed the president or something.I will show you how much people hate him(white people).go on line to purchase a nfl jersey and pull up curruth who was a farmer player for the panthers name.you will see you can still purchase a jersey and this man was the master mind of a person getting killed.now do the same for mv7 who never was charged or have a previous creminal history.you will see that the average white person care for animals more than blacks or human life for that matter.translated:this is still the early 1900’s but just more organized.african americans,if they can’t get you like they used too they will find a way.as far as vick,the punishment don’t fit the crime.1 year and 5 years probation would’ve been more appropriate.

By WHITEMENCANJUMP.

August 4, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Vicks a legend,thats why all the white people dislike him and always talking negative towards him.Gee,you would think this guy killed the president or something.I will show you how much people hate him(white people).go on line to purchase a nfl jersey and pull up curruth who was a farmer player for the panthers name.you will see you can still purchase a jersey and this man was the master mind of a person getting killed.now do the same for mv7 who never was charged or have a previous creminal history.you will see that the average white person care for animals more than blacks or human life for that matter.translated:this is still the early 1900’s but just more organized.african americans,if they can’t get you like they used too they will find a way.as far as vick,the punishment don’t fit the crime.1 year and 5 years probation would’ve been more appropriate.

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Jason, you just proved my point. You people expected Vick to win every game by himself, and many times he did. The record is gonna be worse when: 1. As we all agree (I Think) the fronts office was a bunch of idiots it all starts at the top. 2. O-line and recievers? Not even gonna get into that. Numerous other reasons, and YES, VICK HAD HIS FLAWS. i just hated that you people expected him to be perfect every game when its a team game. Blame the front office too, they’re the ones that put the team together, not Vick. When you build a team around a once in a lifetime athlete like Vick, you don’t just give him the football and tell him to win the super bowl. Even Tom Brady has to have peices around him, which Vick did not.

By number 1

August 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Vick Supporter dude i feel 110% percent these people still living in the 60’s because they are racist and they only feel like there should be a white quaterback lol yea it’s funny but it’s also so darn sad and people just need to grow the hell up but this comment is not meant for all it’s only meant for the ones who has a lot of b*** assness and they need to grow up

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

WHITEMENCANJUMP…. AMEN!!!!!!!!!

By gift

August 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

i just want to know how would the world react if Payton manning was fighing dogs someone answer that question for me

By gift

August 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

i just want to know how would the world react if Payton manning was fighing dogs someone answer that question for me

By Andy M

August 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Hey, What do you guys think of this. Place Ryan on the taxi squad or whatever it is called. Play the other 3 QBs to build value. Then trade one for a better, more valuable player then you would have gotten. Then bring back Ryan for the second half of the season.

By gift

August 4, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

i just want to know how would the world react if Payton manning was fighing dogs someone answer that question for me

By gift

August 4, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

i just want to know how would the world react if Payton manning was fighing dogs someone answer that question for me

By ugaboz

August 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

i am white and loved vick when he was a falcon gave us a chance to win every game. you are then also a racist when you put all group of people in the same catagory. should i do that to black people

By TLC

August 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Whitemencanjump,you are 100% correct.but the hatred hearted people will try to kill or deny that fact too.stay tuned!

By Fan since 66

August 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

A rhetorical question gift, but I doubt if many would like it.

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

ugaboz’s comment “I am white and loved vick when he was a falcon gave us a chance to win every game” Thats the point that i try to make, but I get labled as a racist. explain this to me. If most of the people on here aren’t racist, why do they have to make comments about the way he looked, or acts, talked? This is Confederate State Georgia, one of the most racist states in america back in those days. Why would it be any different. I get killed on here because i support Vick. Thats crazy

By B.O.P.

August 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

VickSupporter - Answer my questions you ignorant fool.

By NASCAR Dave

August 4, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

MATT RYAN should not play at all this season…

REDMAN should be starter… SHOCKLEY as backup… MATT RYAN as 3rd String…

JOEY HARRINGTON should be cut…

NUFF SAID.

By Fan since 66

August 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Whitemencanjump says all white people dislike Vick. This is stereotyping, how does he know how I feel. I try to judge all people on their merits whoever they are. You sir can jump.

By Great Falconi

August 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

The problem I have with all of the back and forth on Vick, aside from the inevitable devolution into race-baiting from both sides, is that the man is not playing for this team. I understand that some people have strong feelings either way on Vick (or just like to post inciteful stuff on blogs to see what kind of s** they can stir up), but if the man is not on the team, why not focus on the team we have now?

I personally don’t care about who starts for the team this year. I want the team to win. That should be the goal for every man on the team. I’d like to think that should be the hope of every Falcon fan. I will support every man taking the field whether they’re black, white, or any other damn color as long as they’re giving their best effort to help the Falcons be a good team. That is all that matters to me.

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

ugaboz’s comment “I am white and loved vick when he was a falcon gave us a chance to win every game” Thats the point that i try to make, but I get labled as a racist. explain this to me. If most of the people on here aren’t racist, why do they have to make comments about the way he looked, or acts, talked? This is Confederate State Georgia, one of the most racist states in america back in those days. Why would it be any different. I get killed on here because i support Vick. Thats crazy

By P.E.T.A

August 4, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

PETA,i hope once every year one of you get ate up by a dog.we will see how much you love animals then.you could’nt love them too much to begin with,because you kill them anyway.and your only excuse is we have nowhere to put them?some love of animals. it seems to me as the animal capacity grows the building should too.you all are getting paid to kill animals but throw the law book at other people.and you call your selves animal lovers,sounds more like murderers to me.

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

B.O.P., no thanks. Whats with all the name calling? Are you offended? Why don’t you log off and to your a* home

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Man F PETA.

By Skyler

August 4, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

First let me say that I am a Falcons and Georgia Tech FANATIC which means I’m going to be a harder judge on folks like DJ, T. Brown and Martrez Millner. I went to Mill Creek and the Dome this weekend and was very impressed by DJ Shockley. He didn’t throw any interceptions friday (Chris Redman with one)and didn’t throw any saturday against the first team defense (Redman & Ryan both with one against the third team defense). Let ‘em cut Redman and ease Ryan into the job. Give Matt time, He will be GREAT!!

By willie

August 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Why can’t UGA fans stay off the Falcons blogs? Our future is clearly Matt Ryan. Shut up with the Shockley talk. He is 6 feet tall and can’t run like Vick….he will never be a starter. Let’s talk about things that matter.

By WHITEMENCANJUMP.

August 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Fan since 66,if the shoe fit then wear it.If not then why comment?and yep,i can jump.but you can too and thats jumping to conclusions.

By Hollywould

August 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Number 1, You are totslly wrong about white football fans in regard to a black quarterback. Of course, there are some who are idiots but true football fans don’t care. There are a lot of black people who are dead set against a white qb but I would say most true black football fans don’t care either. Who friggin cares as long as you win. We haven’t won with Vick, not that it was nearly all his fault. I truly believe he did the best he could but when you are making the most money and are the face of the franchise you have to expect people to be critical. He wrote his own ticket out of here. Nobody else’s fault.

By GA FAN.

August 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Willie,who are you talking to?ill comment about the pee wee game if i want to on this blog BOY!remember this fact,dawgs ranked #1 falcons ranked #32.now how ya like them apples?Roooooooof!!!!!!!!!

By GA FAN.

August 4, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Willie,who are you talking to?ill comment about the pee wee game if i want to on this blog BOY!remember this fact,dawgs ranked #1 falcons ranked #32.now how ya like them apples?Roooooooof!!!!!!!!!

By Vick Supporter

August 4, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Hollywould, we were never 4-12 with Vick as our QB. Not even close. We always had a chance to win. He can’t play defense and catch footballs too. He was only one part of the team, which I think he did quite well with what he ha