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The Combine, QBs and D-Hall
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I’m heading to Indianapolis Wednesday night for the NFL scouting combine where hundreds of college players, pro coaches scouts, agents and media members will convene to conjure tales about the next great and over-hyped players.
It’s actually a pretty great experience, especially watching reporters, like myself, waiting in hallways to ambush team officials to get their assessments of players.
Agents are there en masse not only to look after their newly signed collegiate clients but to broker their pending free agents. Free agency starts Feb. 29 and even though deals can’t “officially” be discussed then, they are broached to some depth days ahead of time.
My colleague, D. Orlando Ledbetter, and I will be blogging a few times a day through the weekend to let you know the latest developments. Most will be Falcons’ related but we’ll also try to keep you in the loop on national stories, such as if a player opts not to participate or arrives with a mysterious cast on his leg.
As for the Falcons, I had a pretty lengthy conversation with GM Thomas Dimitroff and coach Mike Smith this week about the team’s plans. They would not be specific about what they plan to do in free agency and the draft; however, signs are that more player cuts are coming to create more salary cap room.
Dimitroff said that the cost of free agent offensive linemen is more than he imagined but he said he’s re-adjusted his thoughts to that, signaling a veteran guard or tackle could be pursued in free agency.
The Falcons have to find a left tackle in the draft or free agency to replace Wayne Gandy, who was cut. A right guard also could be brought in, either to replace starter Kynan Forney, whose future with the team is not a lock; or to be groomed to replace him. Forney is in the last year of his deal.
Atlanta also has to replace Alge Crumpler, who was cut last week. Depending on how the tight end is used will determine how that is addressed but it would seem a free agent — either a starter or rotational backup — would be signed.
Injuries also could determine what the Falcons do and Smith said contingency plans are in place.
That said, don’t be shocked to see Grady Jackson brought back at nose tackle because Trey Lewis, who has season-ending knee surgery, might not be back in time for training camp. RT Todd Weiner also is recovering from season ending knee surgery and if he has a setback or is slow to recover, Atlanta needs depth at that spot.
The Falcons are expected to re-sign tackle Tyson Clabo, who is an exclusive rights free agent — he can only negotiate with the Falcons unless they decline to his rights — and he proved last season he is a capable starter.
In regards to a quarterback, Dimitroff and Smith said they would be analyzing the draft prospects thoroughly. Whether that means they will draft one with the third, fourth or fifth pick, remains to be seen. However, all indications are that a quarterback will be drafted at some point. They would not commit to re-signing Chris Redman yet, although indication are they do like him.
Something I’ll be following are the developments with CB DeAngelo Hall. Smith and the coaching staff want him back but Dimitroff said they are weighing trade options. This could get interesting very soon because Hall wants an extension, that would cut into any team’s salary-cap space. If the Falcons have that money earmarked elsewhere, Hall could be moved and Atlanta would then have to find someone to replace him.
Dimitroff said Hall makes the Falcons better so his decision could also send an interesting message. Do you trade away a guy who you said makes you better or do you commit huge dollars to him long-term — maybe at the expense of adding a high draft pick — and hope he matures and becomes a better player?
Be sure to check this blog or AJC.com Friday morning to find out how the Falcons fared in the coin toss that will determine if they will draft No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5. In case you missed it, Atlanta, Oakland and Kansas City all finished with 4-12 records. The Falcons will flip with Oakland to see who gets the third pick. The loser is paired with Kansas City to determine who gets No. 4 or No. 5.




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By Big Ed
February 20, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
As good as D. Hall may or may not be (a legend in his own mind) he is a cancer to the team. He has shown time and time again that it is all about him and not the team. He is the poster boy for “I” rather than “WE” when it come to chemistry making a group of players come together. I’d like to see how he would do in a Belechek or Dungy system. He probably would not have lasted this long. Cut bait and get something for him.
By FalconsFvr
February 20, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
If they can trade Hall for a second rounder, that’s a good deal.
By miker
February 20, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
i am afraid that our new GM is thinking of building on the draft, that would be good and dandy if we were coming off a pair of great years.they need to give the fans some hope that the falcons will be a competitive team, and starting a dozen rookies for me does not cut it. i know the falcons are not going to the post season any time soon , but an 0-16 season we dont need!!!!
By Josh
February 20, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
So what time is this coinflip? I can’t find that info anywhere.
Also, DHall is worth a lower first-round pick, absolutely.
By FalconFan7
February 20, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
You dumd atlanta fans you guys don’t know when you all have talent. Atlanta needs players and D. Hall is a player. I don’t read anything about the weakest player on the defence highway56(keith) but he gets a pass because he doesn’t say anything, if I was that bad I would not say anything either.
By Bob Sacamano
February 20, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Screw MeAngelo Hall. Trade his me-first, team-last @$$ to Cleveland for Anderson, a DURABLE (something Matt Schaub isn’t) QB who can start right away for the team and then use free agent money to bring both Ty Law and Asante Samuel to the Falcons, forming the most formidable threats at corner in the league. This, Dimitroff must do: get rid of Hall. He DOES NOT make the team better. His retarded “athletic arrogance” makes the team worse, and costs his team in idiotic personal foul penalties. Let him be Cleveland’s problem. Besides, Hall isn’t nearly as good as he thinks he is. He gets burned more than any corner I’ve ever seen play for this team. That excuse about “he takes chances, so sometimes he gets burned,” is only true if he only got burnt sometimes, as opposed to 3 or 4 times a game. He takes stupid chances because he’s a me-first, team-last guy who wants to individual accolades of interceptions so he can make the Pro Bowl instead of playing good, hard-nosed, and SMART defense (no idiot personal foul penalties) which can help his team win. MeAngelo Hall is a terrible, terrible example of what happens when ego rules the lockeroom, and he’s a terrible example of how not to coach players, Little Jimmy More. Little Jimmy gave him an inch, and MeAngelo took it 1,000 miles. He’s also yet another thug player from VATech, an Institute which does not care about things like character and team and sportsmanship; the cradle of Mike and Marcus Vick.
Get MeAngelo Hall off this damn team, Dimitroff!!!
By humbug
February 20, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
Get rid of Hall and bring Grady back, if he’ll come back. He got caught up in things but is a pretty good man in the niddle. He is not a trouble maker like Hall and a couple more.
By Rob
February 20, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Trade D-Hall and don’t look back! He’s the most over-rated CB in the NFL.
By AK-47
February 20, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
I say you draft a QB with the first pick, and throw a ton of money at 2 O linemen FAs, one of whom should be Max Starks of Pittsburgh. As for Deangelo, he would certainly be of interest to many teams come draft day. Listen to all offers, and if you can’t get at least a high 2nd round pick for him, keep him. He’s the only true playmaker we have back there. Maybe with a new defensive oriented head coach, the new regime can get D Hall to straighten out his act and focus himself on making plays instead of running his mouth.
By deep
February 20, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
Trade D-Hall, hes a big mouth and big disctraction and gets burned more than he stops people.
By bb
February 20, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Trade d hall and get something of valve. It’s going to take at least 3 yrs for the falcons to get it together. I’m sure he don’t want to be part of a new rebuilding process. He’s been through two in the 3 yrs he’s been here. I’m sure that he probally wants to leave.
By DB
February 20, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
What is it about Va Tech players? Is there something in the water up there?
Vick and Hall are both a*******clowns. Get rid of MeAngelo quick!
By mars
February 20, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Ok, with Grady we can complete the line by drafting Glenn Dorsey. Move Brooking to his natural position weakside, and go after Arizona’s Dansby for MLB (6’4” 250lbs). Keep Milloy and challenge J. Williams to prove he’s not another V.Tech bust. As far as MeHall goes, is he under contract? If so, let him shop in free agency before signing anything, as long as we have right of first refusal. With this line-up (along with the winged monkeys flying out my a$$) we should have a solid defense.
By miker
February 20, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
by the way , chris redman should have been signed back in december. every day that goes by, his stock is getting higher. everybody in this blog is carying on about d-hall and we have no qb. after all , falcons have not had lousy experiences w qb named chris, have we????
By mars
February 20, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
NO QB’S! NO QB’S! NO QB’S! NO QB’S! PLEASE DEAR GOD NO QB’S! NO QB’S! NO QB’S! No QB’s to choose from this year, but next year is projected to be stocked with talented QB’s. Therefore, NO QB’S! NO QB’S! NO QB’S! NO QB’S! It’s guaranteed to be a bust if we draft one.
By cape29
February 20, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
We’re not going to the Super Bowl next year. Draft well, get the rookies some experience, and set yourself up for a nice draft pick in 09
By Waldo
February 20, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe we’re thinking about moving Meangelo. Don’t you remember how he likes to drop a shoulder and deliver a big hit, or mix it up in the pile or, uhhh, wait a minute, uhhh, never mind.
By AK-47
February 20, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Asante Samuel is NOT coming here. In our dreams. And Cleveland is going to open the vault for Derek Anderson, there’s no way they’ll trade him for D Hall. Maybe that would work on your Madden 08 game but not in the real world.
By smartfellow
February 20, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
The Falcon’s first priority is not getting a QB. First priority is an OL to protect the QB and make holes for the RB. Get OL and DL fixed in the first few rounds then look at QB and DBs. I think if we let Dimitroff do his job and get players Smith can mold we will be competitive very soon. It won’t take 3 or 4 years like some guess. These are the new Falcons, not the old ones. Blank, Dimitroff, and Smith deserve our support, not our quibbling. Go get’em guys!!!
By Najeh Davenpoop
February 20, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
Grady Jackson is probably one of my top 3 favorite Falcons of all time. Bring him back just for the entertainment value of seeing him belly-flop onto a running back in the backfield.
Unless someone’s willing to give up a first-rounder or high second-rounder for D-Hall, the Falcons should hang on to him.
Use the first four picks you have on the offensive and defensive lines — that way you know you are bringing in players who fit your scheme and who can learn together. Line play, particularly offensive line play, is just as much about players knowing each other as it is about individual talent. Bringing in a free agent or two on the line is fine, but high picks have to be spent in that area.
Drafting a QB early when you have no protection for him and limited weapons on offense will only cause the QB to develop slower. Considering that there’s no true franchise player in this draft at QB, it would be a wasted pick to spend a high pick on one when there are so many other holes on this team that need to be addressed. If you are gonna burn a lower 3rd or 4th rounder on a QB that’s fine.
By FanSinceBirth
February 20, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Nicely put Davenpoop.
By Josh
February 20, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Joey Harrington will be a very capable starter in ‘08 if he has a line in front of him - and that should start with Jake Long.
Please stay FAR away from Derek Anderson. He hasn’t done nearly enough to deserve the kind of money he wants.
QB depth chart: 1) Harrington 2) Shockley 3) 3rd/4th round pick
By Silver Fox
February 20, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Keep C Redman at QB and bring him along behind drafted and free agent OL. Bring Grady Jackson back, if he will even consider given the way he was treated. Move Keith Brooking back to his natural position and build from there. Good riddance to D all also
By AL
February 20, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
If D. Hall is on the team next year, I will not be renewing my season tickets.
By DC
February 20, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
you people are ignorant and have no idea what it is like to run a front office in the nfl. They can’t just cut DHALL, he’s impossible to replace. We have one person saying that we need to sign ty law and assante samuel and cut DHALL. Are you nuts? seriously, assante samuel is worth more than dhall, and probably isn’t even a better cover corner. Right now, the falcons need to make a few more cuts, EXCLUDING DHALL, and sign him to a 5 year deal. He will be expensive, however, if we rid of him, we’ll have to deal with a second year Houston who hasn’t fully proven himself to be a capable corner, and some no-namer who will get lit up like lewis sanders and jason webster. DHALL is one of the top 5 CBs in the league with a special talent, he is the best player in our WEAK WEAK WEAK secondary, and to cut him would send the defense into a true tailspin. Figure it out, defense wins championships, build the defense, grab the qb later
By mr. mechanicsville
February 20, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Get D-Hall his papers ready and ship to booth beside his no tackling partner D-Sanders…..Running your mouth and can’t trackle his not an asset to the team speed don’t make a good football player not without heart and team spirit. DH stick your head between your legs because ATL is saying good-by…. And plase take the bus so I can follow with my salt.
By humbug
February 20, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Re my 2:22 post..What the hell is a niddle? I meant middle.
By SeminoleWarrior
February 20, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Re-signing Redman is a no-brainer. He is easily the best QB we have at this time. Shockley is still has a lot to learn; Redman is familiar with what Coach M would want to do because it is very similiar to what the Ravens did when we was there as the backup in their Super Bowl year. Remember, this guys is still young in terms of his time in the league. And he is more of a complete QB than anyone in the draft this season. His college stats and efficiency were as good if not better than anyone in the draft this year. He has looked well once he have been given the chance. And he is a character guy, one who could represent well in the community. He is ready to go into next season as the starter. As far as D Hall, it’s time for him to move on. He will never commit to being the type of leader we need. And he will eventually corrupt Houston. GO BIRDS!! Sign Chris now!!
By Barry
February 20, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Hey Y’all:
Get of Deangelo Hall’s back. this man is not a selfish player. he is a PLAYER wo makes plays. He is a PLAYER. The only selfish move I have seen D’Hall make was during that great game he played against the Carolina Panthers Steve Smith. The man was so hyped and into his game/job that he let his competiveness get the best of him. I will take this anytime than a player not playing at all. Give me one hundred D’hall’s that play like him. You can not label a guy selfish for that one game. I am more than confident he learned from it and he will be more than a better player for it. We have to keep a player like Hall for the fire he brings to the game. You have got be insane and/or no nothing about football or sports to let a player with his enthusiasm for the game go.. ALL have to say is , REMEMBER DEON SAUNDERS!!!! He loved the Falcons but was unappreciated for flambouyant play and his gift of gab about the game. Now he is on his way to the Hall of Fame. I guarantee that. Atlanta, let’s not do this to D’Hall. The guy is a PLAYER, and his action on the field proves it. We cannot afford to let players like this go. We have to build on it and add MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! This is a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TeTELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ringold
By Josh
February 20, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
Chris Redman is physical evidence Bobby Petrino was once part of this organization, and for that reason alone he needs to go.
By Cairo
February 20, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
D. Hall is the last of your worries. What you all need to be concerned about is an OVERATED LB by the name of one Highway 56 Keith “PileJumper” Brooking who has been stealing money for the last 3 years. His cap hit is a whopping $6 plus million but you all can’t get your heads out of his butt long enough to realize that. Is this guy worth paying that much money to? H E double hockey sticks no. CUT KEITH BROOKING or we know the Arthur Blank still has his FAT nose in the FOOTBALL business.
By Barry
February 20, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Hey Y’all:
Bring the the BIG DOG back!!! Grady “THE GRAVY TRAIN” will be meaner and better than ever in the ATL just to prove Petrino’s crew wrong. Believe me, he will a junk yard dog on the field. We will need him with the rest of the big dogs that will be added to the team. GO DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! This is a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ringold
By Joe Bland
February 20, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
My hope is that they will sign Redman and pick up a QB prospect in round 3 or 4. My preference is Erik Ainge, though a couple of folks have been pumping Chad Henne and Joe Flacco. I could live with any of them, I just think Ainge (tutored by David Cutcliffe like both Mannings) has a somewhat bigger upside.
By David Duke
February 20, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
Duhangelo Hall is part of the Falcon’s losing legacy that must be excised. What is needed here is a new beginning and that will not be possible with hold-overs from the Vick era. If trades are possible, trade Hall and Roddy White. If no one has an interest, cut them! There’s a new regime in place and it needs the benefit of a clean slate to be successful. Hall’s deportment this past season was abysmal. He, personally, lost a game to the Panthers. Compounding his awful play was his insubordination to his position and head coaches. Those coaches are gone but that loss is still on the books. That incident and the thrown game should not be forgotten. Hall has to go!
By George Blanda
February 20, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
People on the Falcons blog keep mentioning Derek Anderson. Trust me, the Browns are going to keep him and Quinn. Sign Redman, jettison Harrington and draft a QB (just not in the first round).
By Bk Hawk
February 20, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Please for the love of God, Trade D-a@@ Hall. Mr Dimitroff and Coach Smith must not care that the majority of Fans want Hall GONE. Hall does not make the Falcons better. He is a cancer to the team. I for one will not pay to see Hall play for the Falcons. He!! No…Hall is VT trash.
By Traceman
February 20, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
All of you cut “D Hall, Vick is not a real QB, yada yada yada” guys are the first ones to stop showing up at the games when the team starts losing - if you ever even showed up in the first place. When we bring in some 3rd rate corner to replace D Hall and we are all watching the guy get torched (as Chris Houston often did last year), you guys are the ones who will be sitting home.
If Dmitroff or Blank lends any credence to all those who are calling for D Hall to be traded, they are nuts. The guy is one of the most talented players on a roster that is severely talent-deficient at the moment. D Hall is no choir boy but this ain’t church league brotha, this is the NFL! They need to lock him up with a long term extension and look to get him, Abraham and Boley some help on that raggedy defense.
By Lil E
February 20, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
D.Hall is not a leader, but not many cornerbacks are! Your leaders are your MLB or Safety. D.Hall is a great cornerback, and had a lackluster year due to the lack of pressure the defense applied on the QB. It would be absolutely retarded for Mike Smith, a defensive (line) coach, to get rid of D. Hall. You bring in some pass rushers and D. Hall will be right back in the Pro Bowl. He’s our only player in the secondary with experience. Don’t let your personal feelings towards him cloud your judgement. Don’t you remember how the secondary was before he was drafted ? I do, and I don’t want to go back.
By quint
February 20, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Bring back the Grady Train!! Get rid of Hall!! If the Falcons can’t get Matt Ryan with the 3,4, or 5 pick, trade that sucker away. There is a Wildcat QB in Kentucky that might be available in the 3rd round. But you know what? We really need a couple of big nasty offensive linemen. Find a left tackle free agent and draft a right tackle/guard in the second round. Shoot, what do y’all think about trading that first round pick to Cleveland for Quinn, straight up?
By Mave2124
February 20, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
Keep D.Hall and let him sit out camp…better to have him play for cheap than commit money to him or trade him for a ham sandwich and have a horrible secondary.
By quint
February 20, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
OK, what I meant by saying we should trade that first round pick to Cleveland is that Quinn is highly marketable, he has a year in the league (yes, as a bench-warmer), and he would cost less than signing a first-round quarterback. I think it makes sense to consider, if he is projected to be as good as any QB available as this year’s 3, 4, or 5 pick.
By David Duke
February 20, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
Duhangelo Hall is part of the Falcon’s losing legacy that must be excised. What is needed here is a new beginning and that will not be possible with hold-overs from the Vick era. If trades are possible, trade Hall and Roddy White. If no one has an interest, cut them! There’s a new regime in place and it needs the benefit of a clean slate to be successful. Hall’s deportment this past season was abysmal. He, personally, lost a game to the Panthers. Compounding his awful play was his insubordination to his position and head coaches. Those coaches are gone but that loss is still on the books. That incident and the thrown game should not be forgotten. Hall has to go!
By Coach of the Ringgold Tigers
February 20, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Barry, I thought we taught you better. It’s Deion Sanders. Also using exclamation marks in bunches simply assures what you write will not be taken seriously. Your essay also has other misspellings and grammatical errors. I’m going to have to give you a D and ask that you now go run the steps.
By birdfan
February 20, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
The birds need to build trough the draft along the offensive and d-lines. Jake Long or Dorsey are the best available. Mcfadden won’t last in the NLF running upright. D-Hall should be moved for low 1st/high 2nd rd pick. Brooking needs to be cut after the deadline which allows some relief under the cap. Give Dunn on more season and don’t expect more than five to six wins. Then after one more draftm we should find our franchise QB. Lets face it we’re 3 to 4 years away from a contending team. (if all foes well and our thugs stay out of jail)
By Mike
February 20, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Well I can’t speak for everyone but to me Deangelo seems to have put himself in a bad spot.If he had seemed to not be so self centered last year he should have known that in the NFL it’s not the final year of your contract you need to prove yourself on but the next to last year.It gives a team a chance to rework your contract and therefore bypassing that all so killer “final” year of those backloaded contracts. The year that he needed to prove his worth he got flagged for stupidity then yelled at a coach then wore a “free Vick” t shirt and “7” eye paint sticker.Not to mention a total lack of a team first me last attitude.He haas put himself in a place where the GM and coach have to wonder if his bright flashes of greatnes are worth his bright flashes of stupidity.This is not the Lawrence Taylor,Mark Gastino NFL any longer and eventually the hotheaded loudmouth players will learn that theres a fine line between between being emotional and being a cancer.
By Thomas Dimitroff
February 20, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Bk Hawk, you are correct, we don’t care what the majority of fans want regarding personnel. We know that if we win, fans will be happy and like Deangelo again.
By jimmy
February 20, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
I SAY KEEP D-HALL. TRY TO GET A CB THAT IS DAMN GOOD FO FREE AGENCY. WE CAN GET SAMUELS IF THE MONEY WAS RIGHT. ALSO WE REALLY DONT NEED A QB, WE HAVE REDMAN, AND SHOCKLY. GET RID OF HARRINGTON. SIGN A FREE AGENT QB. ALSO WE NEED TO DRAFT SOME ONE LIKE DORSEY. THE MORE EXPIERENCED BODIES THROUGH FREE AGENECY THE BETTER OPERTUNITIES WE HAVE FOR THE PLAYOFFS. KEEP HORN, DUNN, FORNEY, AND BROOKING. RELEASE CROCKER, MILLOY.
By Jack G
February 20, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this
The Falcons are snakebit—-you might as well forget 3rd or 4th draft spot and take the number 5 spot to the bank—-we will just have to see whats left when number 5 rolls around.
Why are we cutting all these players without trying to trade them——we might not get much , but we could be getting maybe some low draft choices Unless of course they are so overpaid that no one wants to take on those big salaries.
By Falcon Hater
February 20, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
Please Trade D-Hall, the worse this pathetic team gets the better I feel…….. Secondary will get SCORCHED next season! LOLOLOLOLOLOL, I’ve never seen more ignorant football fans in my life! LOLOLOLOLOLOL
By Luis Lopez
February 20, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
Duhangelo Hall is part of the Falcon’s losing legacy that must be excised. What is needed here is a new beginning and that will not be possible with hold-overs from the Vick era. If trades are possible, trade Hall and Roddy White. If no one has an interest, cut them!
Everybody on the team is part of the Falcons’ losing legacy…. What a stupid thing to say…. So what? Do we cut everybody???
By Casey
February 20, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
PLEASE TRADE DEANGELO HALL WHILE WE STILL CAN!!!
He is more trouble than he’s worth. He is a legend in his own mind. He has never lived up to his hype. Because he thinks he is the greatest player who ever played the game, it will cost every penny of our cap space to sign him to an extension.
HE’S NOT WORTH IT! HE’S NOT WORTH THE MONEY! HE’S NOT WORTH ALL OF THE CRAP HE CONSTANTLY CAUSES FOR THE TEAM!
As for the QB, we need an OL before we can even think about drafting a QB. Redman is mediocre at best. Harrington is solid, if he has any time to throw it and anyone who can actually catch it.
If we draft a QB, he won’t be ready to play next year, anyway. Besides, I don’t see any big time NFL QB’s in this draft.
NO QB CAN THROW THE BALL LYING FLAT ON HIS BACK, AND HE’S GOT TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN CATCH THE BALL!
By David Duke
February 20, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Trade? For what, a couple of footballs and some Gatorade tubs? This roster, in the main, is devoid of anyone that other teams want. The Falcons might be able to trade Hall for some sort of pick but that’s about it. The entire team needs to be built from the ground up. A new group of Falcons would be unencumbered by the miseries of the past and that is what is needed. A new team can establish a new, more positive legacy. The past three years the team has won nineteen games and has lost twenty-nine. What is there to lose by starting over? I believe a complete purge is what is needed. The team needs to conduct itself as if it is an expansion team because, essentially, that’s what it is!
By Bk Hawk
February 20, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Fake Dimitroff—I know management don’t care what Fans want. Winning is bottom line but what has Hall won? Botton line majority will never like D-Hall win or lose.
By mars
February 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
McFadden would do fine running behind a line after we sign Alan Faneca and Max Starks from the Steelers, with Mughelli clearing holes. I was always against Harrington, but after watching his performances despite losing last year (nearly 70% completions?) and the dignity he showed when being benched for Leftwich (fer gawds sakes!!!) he might do fine. Roddy White as bad as he was leading up to the past year, actually improved. That’s something I thought we would never see. And for a slot back with speed, sure hands, and fearlessness to cross the middle look no further than Warrick Dunn! Horn needs to go! Jenkins needs to step up or step out! Finneran (love ya, man), too many injuries to overcome. Now, as far as tight end goes, I don’t have a clue….
By SeminoleWarrior
February 20, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
To use a little baseball lingo here, the Falcons should hit for solid singles and base percentage instead of trying to go for the home run. Do the homework people. Look at the productivity in college of Redman and compare it to any of these guys that are being scouted this year. If you take the injuries out of it in his early NFL years, he was showing promise when given the chance. His actual game experience in the NFL, not at a college playing an NFL scheme, is the MOST critical point at this time. Stability IS key at QB and he would provide that. It seems like he has a solid relationship with Coach Musgrave who has worked wonders with Brunnell, Leftwich, Beuerlien, Schaub, and others. Keep him, make him the starter, and focus on the re-construction of the lines on both sides of the ball. Joey is an adequate backup; give him a power running game and he will manage the game much better than if he has to take it all on his shoulders. As far as Hall is concerned, David Irons is more than adequate to step in there right now and play the position. We can not overcommit to him..too much at stake with the cap and all. A big deal to him would severely cripple the reconstruction of the team. No one player is worth all that. After all, that is how we got in this mess in the first place, right? The needs of the TEAM must always come first!!!
By David Duke
February 20, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
Trade? For what, a couple of footballs and some Gatorade tubs? This roster, in the main, is devoid of anyone that other teams want. The Falcons might be able to trade Hall for some sort of pick but that’s about it. The entire team needs to be built from the ground up. A new group of Falcons would be unencumbered by the miseries of the past and that is what is needed. A new team can establish a new, more positive legacy. The past three years the team has won nineteen games and has lost twenty-nine. What is there to lose by starting over? I believe a complete purge is what is needed. The team needs to conduct itself as if it is an expansion team because, essentially, that’s what it is!
By cityofdecatur
February 20, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
AK47
.Maybe with a new defensive oriented head coach, the new regime can get D Hall to straighten out his act and focus himself on making plays instead of running his mouth. .ARE U OUTTA YOUR F….ING MIND MeAngelo is the most immature manboy i have EVER seen play in the NFL get what u can and don’t even think of a long term extension. CAN U SAY CLUBHOUSE CANCER
By gabby21
February 20, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
For the people that say keep D Hall did you actually go to or see any of the games last year? He quit trying to play the game except for the last game against Seattle. Maybe he was trying to impress his new Team ( let’s hope) I say get ride of the bum and let him take Dunn, Herrington, Brooking, and afew more with him. I say go for MEN that want to play the game because they love it and for the fans, not for themselves !!!!!!
By Cowboy Troy
February 20, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this
D-Hall would look great with a star on his helmet…
By Buddy Curry
February 20, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
I reccomend that ALL Falcon fans (especially Mr Blank and TD) check out utube 1980 Atlanta Falcons Season review…”How the West was Won”. You will all see how this city can get fired up over this team. We need to start fresh and act as our forefathers did- similar to what the Braves did - build through the draft - go back to those uni’s (our true glory days of Strong Defense) - forget the past and move ahead!
By drmaryb
February 20, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this
You guys that want to get rid of DeAngelo Hall are just plain retarded!
You sound very Fickle and emotional! John Schuerholz said it best back in 1994 or so:
“A smart investor will - Never fall in LOVE with your stocks!”
The goal is to Stock-Pile talent, not be the Judge and Executioner of people.
De’Angelo is a good-guy, he’s not a bad guy..he may get a little emotional at times, but that’s because he cares and wants to win real bad! But last time I checked - He hasn’t killed anybody!
I love what the new GM & HC are doing..we’re getting an unbiased assessment of our football assets - And now we’re makin’ moves!
We’re starting to build something, and - well you guessed right!
If You Build it - They will Come!
By FalconFan4VT
February 20, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
All you guys downing VT. Thug this, thug that. You all can go to…..well you know. Half of you ain’t even falcons fans. So PLEASE guys draft an OL wait a couple of year and snatch up Tyrod Taylor when he takes VT to a national tittle next year. (one can dream..right??)
By jsleazy
February 20, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
Man we need to trade the first round pick for a lower first round pick and D.Hall for the same thing. Face it, this garbage Rick McKay stuck us with his bumbling FA moves, and the Anderson pick last year( tell the truth, beside ARK fans who the heck had heard of this guy?) over Pat Willis or Omobi Okoye was inexcuseable. That wouldn’t have made a difference though considering we had the 29th ranked run DEF, Willis was DEFROY, Okoye had what 6.5 sacks from DT, 6.5 than Anderson( or did he finally get one after the season was practically over. I say this to say, we need a more sensible approach to personnel decisions than drafting/signing players than basing them on potential and focus more on production. Aw forget about it, these are the Falcons were talking about.
By jbj
February 20, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this
RU Serious!!! get rid of hall? what the hell is wrong with u so called fans what else do u have to look foward too u guys sit up here and b*** and moaning about a personal foul big deal whats your excuse for the other 11 games u lost for all u guys up here screaming trade him finsh masterbating and get a life
By fury
February 20, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this
ak47 Max Starks, who I would have drafted If I had been GM at the time, HAS A BAD BACK. Only a ignorant GM would sign him to a huge contract. A team like ATL cannot afford a chance on him. Atlanta should trade their #1 to dallas for the Cowboys 2 first round picks. Then they should trade D(ME)Hall for a late first or a 2nd and 3rd type trade. Then you can get a OL, DL, DB, RB, and QB or TE. Personally I would take a flyer on Henne or Ainge in the mid rounds or Woodson if he is there. If not, go ahead and get Simms from TB.
By Rod
February 20, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this
Its Shockley, Harrington and draft pick. Redman sucks. Petrino lover.
By FALCONJUICE
February 20, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this
Trade D. Hall and a third round pick to Cleveland for Brady Quinn.
By will
February 20, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this
DJ future qb…draft: DMAC, Anthony Collins, Curtis Lofton, and Marcus Harrison.
By russell sorrells
February 20, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this
I suspect the Falcons need an offensive line more than they need another quarterback. Tom Brady was just another guy when the Giants gutted the Patriots line.
By saint
February 20, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this
Redman has already proven he can hold his ground and accurately pass with weak OL support. Bret Farve would do as well, but I think these QB’s coming straight out of college are going to be killed. Redman is the only Falcons QB ready. Shockley is still healing. No-D-Hall helped the team by being better than the other corner: that’s why he was a “shut-down” corner, not because he defensed a lot of passes. The opposing QB would toss the other way. Dunn is unique. He can still do it pretty well, but is old and light. If he were bigger and younger! I have doubts about RB’s with weak ankles: they don’t do well with all these 300 pounders. The RB’s that have speed, instant cutting and re-acceleration, and durable would be my choice. A lot of the Falcon vets are really good, but which ones really want to play, and which don’t?
By greg
February 20, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this
any falcon player that feels like he should support vick (on national tv) should be CUT or traided. the team surrounds the falcons players, not the thug group. CUT AND GET RID of the thugs, and gang bangers, make a team out of the falcons.
By greg
February 20, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this
to: jbj yu be rite jbj we no be needun git rid of d hall,, he be jammin, he be cool wid all dah b***,, we dont need no pro foot ball on no sunday,,, we need be watchen d hall watchen vick 7 back, dees guys dough no no football, we aoul say d hall too cool to let go, he be dah man,,, he be what all good team built around. rite on bro you just be what the atl need,,,,, yea,,rite on
By Charles
February 20, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
Steve,
What do you think of the likelihood Tennessee would be willing to trade Albert Haynesworth for D-Hall straight up?
Mike Smith & Dimitroff both recognize the need for DOMINANT Defensive Tackles to control the line of scrimmage. Both of their previous teams have made a strong financial commitment to those type of players on their current rosters (Stroud, Semore, Henderson, etc). They also come from teams that do not shell out the big bucks to their secondary. Haynesworth, much like D-Hall has a bit of his own baggage, but this seems to me a good marriage that would meet the needs of both teams.
Your thoughts?
By birdfan
February 20, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this
Three words that explain why we should get rid of meangelo OUT AND UP or SLANT AND GO either phrase applies. He takes too many risks trying to jump routes and gets burned. Chad Johnson and Steve Smith ate his lunch.
By Chad Johnson
February 21, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this
Suckers.
By David Duke
February 21, 2008 1:36 AM | Link to this
De’Angelo is a good-guy, he’s not a bad guy..he may get a little emotional at times, but that’s because he cares and wants to win real bad!
Really? You are a retard if ever I’ve seen one. Hall doesn’t give a damn about the team. That was so evident when he threw the game to the Panthers. He’s got to go!
By Ken Strickland
February 21, 2008 2:22 AM | Link to this
DAVID PUKE wrote, “DUHANGELO HALL IS PART OF THE FALCONS LOSING LEGACY THAT MUST BE EXCISED”. The Atlanta Falcons have had a losing legacy for over 40yrs, which is several decades before Hall arrived. Only a clueless nonthinking moron like him would attempt to hold DHall, or any one player responsible for that? You have to hold every player that’s ever played for the Falcons responsible?
Another example of this clueless monkeys mindless crap is his suggestion that we trade Roddy White. RWhite’s 85 receptions and over 1000 REC yds places him among the NFL’s elite. As the teams primary receiver he often had to beat double teams in order to accumulated these stats. He is young, fast, strong, he obviously got open and he made tough catches. He was our most consistently productive OFF player, and he accomplished all of this with a season long volatile QB situation. CAN YOU GIVE ONE LOGICAL REASON FOR CUTTING OR TRADING A PLAYER LIKE THIS?
There are simply too many individuals posting biased personal comments regarding DHall. I say that for the following reasons:
(1)The new HC has gone on record stating he wanted DHall on the team. Obviously he doesn’t feel his talent, abilitY, attitude and/or behavior are issues. (2)DHall has been voted to multiple Probowls by NFL coaches, receivers and running backs he has gone up against.
Do you clowns really think your emotionally driven personal bias’ rate higher than those of his coaches and peers? Some of you act like ignorance, stupidity and arrogance are virtures.
There is another clueless clown calling himself SACAMANO? The above article tellS us how the Falcons intend to spend their limited Cap money frugally. Yet, this fool suggests we blow most of it signing CB’s ASamuel and TLaw. I guess he figures that will solve all of our other OFF and DEF problems. What do we do with our other CB Houston, who’s recognized as one of the NFL’s better up and coming cover CB’s? Both he and Hall have proven they can perform at a high level without the benefit of an effective pass rush. Can anyone say the same for Samuel or Law? How many of you would be stupid enough to spend millions of dollars and most of your cap space to find out?
GOD, THERE ARE SO MANY STUPID AND UNINFORMED FALCON FANS.
By ATL4EVER
February 21, 2008 6:51 AM | Link to this
TD and Blank have mentioned they want about $23 mil in cap space. DHall is going to ask for more than $10 mil w/5 or 6 year contract. We have so many holes to fill and we can’t afford to dish out that much money for one player, no matter how much he thinks he’s worth. Trade him for a 1st or high 2nd and move on. There will be more cuts. We’re rebuilding. We have to draft DL, OL, RB, QB and some in the back 7. That’s a lot of needs so we’re not going to waste our money on some arrogant look at me fool. Also, we’re not going to sign Samuels either because he’ll be asking for big $$$ too. OL FAs will be the way to go. I doubt we’ll spend the first pick on a QB. I hope we pick Ellis, he’s a beast. I like TD’s philosophy. Tare it down and work from scratch. This year will be tough so expect another high draft pick next year. I can except that since we’re moving in the right direction.
By Keith
February 21, 2008 7:01 AM | Link to this
Draft for the trenches!! We need help there…badly. No QB in the first round please, not this year. OL, DL, and DB’s.
By Nechville Rednecks
February 21, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this
Al you are not a season ticket holder . keep hall if you want to win.
Just because he don’t fit your profile of a football player don’t mean he can’t play well and he does over all. Who is better at DB we can trade for and get that is better who? I want to win,Hate may you guy crazy. and speaking of thugs UGA is thugville usa!
Vt player do get there degree more than you can say about thugville UGA!
We need Linemen on both side of the ball and we have need them for years. The NFL Network, espn is pushing for Atlanta to Draft a frist rounder at QB and if we listen to those clowns we will be set back for 10 years on a unproven guy. Draft Linemen!
By Mike T
February 21, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
Looking at the dumb choises McKay made It’s easy to see we have our work cut out for us. D.Hall needs to go if we are going to be a hard hitting defense,we need to have players that tackle with shoulders and arms not their mouth. I have been told the SEC & ACC is the best football conferences, let the rooster reflect that and get these players. Football is a great sport but when it’s time to go you gota go veteran or not. I am a season ticket holder and I hope for the rest of us and Mr Blank good things happen this year.
By Jeff
February 21, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
I love how people want Grady back now but couldn’t wait to get rid of him because he played “out of the system” last year. That’s a really smart cap move by the way. Since we cut him last year doesn’t he ALREADY count against the cap as dead money?
Why do I have the feeling that the people that are screaming to get rid of Hall don’t remember how long this franchise has been looking for a good cover corner. They act like they grow on trees.
Let’s trade him and take a high draft pick to replace him. Then we can all complain about how bad the secondary is and letting him go and ask why did we do that… like we did with Kerney.
Getting rid of DeAngelo would not make this team better. But what do you expect from a team that repeated told the us how great Bobby Petrino was doing… right up to the point when we saw him being introduced as the Arkansas head coach.
By S
February 21, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
Dallas needs help at CB and they have 2 first round picks. Trade DeAngelo Hall to Big D for the #28 pick in the draft.
By North FLA Falcon
February 21, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
I say, work with Redman this year. Draft a lower round QB and work to bring him into the system. Our #1 pick if he’s available should be Long, the OL from Michigan. What good is Brohm or some other first round QB if he’s going to be sacked 7 times/game? Remember Tom Brady was a lower round pick. Redman is effective, he can get us to 8-8 this yea which should be our goal. For 2-5 rounds look for a dependable, fast RB and a nasty defensive lineman/linebacker. GO BIRDS!!!
By Bubba, Lower Forty
February 21, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
Hi y’all! I think the staff has to make some evaluations of DHall. Is he a team player or an individual? Is he looking to win or just looking for more money? I can understand the frustration in the Carolina game, but it is imperative to know what fueled the controversy. If the guy is into a team concept and building a winner, let’s work on keeping him. If he’s just another ‘me first and only’, he needs to go. The lines, which are the cornerstones of every club, are very important. If we can get several aggressive rushers on the d-line, we can have average DB’s that can cover the receivers. If we have powerful drive blockers on offense you can put whoever you want behind them and make yards. I still say we are at least three years away. Let’s build the lines first, then go after a good RB. My thinking is we need to draft someone like Flacco, let him sit for a couple of years behind a vet and learn the ropes, then be ready to go in the third year.
By jeanE
February 21, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
I know I’m dreaming to say this, but keep Joey H. & draft a QB in the late rounds…Joey can win, he needs protecion up front, however as would any QB who plays here! We need Oline help, look what Cleveland has done with their o-line!! Bring Grady back, by all means, he should never have been cut. I am of mixed feelings about D. Hall. He annoys the he—- out of me but there are few players of his calibre in the league. I say, keep him. Mike Smith seems like he relates well to players, D. Hall needs some tough love but we are worse off without him. I hope we can keep Warrick and Finn, too. Finn can come back, just give him a chance! He’s a leader, has fly paper hands & plays special teams, too! Go Birds!!