Falcons

By birdbrain

May 14, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

I’m not sure how you saw Blakely, as he was released prior to the camp starting. I think he was signed right away by another team.

By mo

May 14, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Bobby Petrino is really the star this off-season. He is definitely getting the most buzz.

But my main concern is Brian Finneran. I want a healthy Finneran, or a big, sure-handed WR that can catch in traffic. I am very concerned about the clutch receiving.

I’m also concerned about the secondary. I’m really afraid about the free-safety position.

By Stephen

May 14, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Birdbrain, I think you mean Eric Beverly, the olineman turned redzone catch-dropping TE that genius Knapp employed to help us become the worst red zone offense in the NFL. Because, who better to be the No. 1 goalline passing target than a former 300 lbs tackle?

Good to hear Laurent Robinson making such a big splash. I remember being a little confused on draft day with us taking him so early, particularly with some good WRs and Michael Bush still on the board.

The AJC needs to quit with the ridiculous Vick-watch 2007, it got old about 3 months ago. Let’s just talk about football and deal with the Vick issue IF it becomes one. Until he’s found guilty (and if he is, he deserves severe punishment and jailtime), he’s still our franchise QB, and Atlanta fans need to remember that.

By myconju

May 14, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Should we be concerned with the running back situation. I know that Jerious Norwood is looking good, but what about Warrick Dunn. He’s not getting any younger. Plus, I thought the coach wanted some bigger backs.

By Dude

May 14, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

I’d like to agree with Stephen. I think the AJC needs to stop the focus on Vick’s off-feld activities. And I think Wyche is the most hypocritical of all on this point. It would appear this is personal for him. The AJC is reaching new lows by publishing hearsay about what Buchanan alledgedly said, without waiting to hear back from him, only to find out the very next day he denies having said anything like what was reported. This is shameful journalism.

By D. Bell

May 14, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

What’s “dog-ighting”?

By keeping it Real

May 14, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

I do think we have a coach. From all the sports writers said Vick had a good camp. The Falcons seem to be on the good foot. They all seem to be working hard and that is a good Thing . I for one have been singing we need a offense line . This coach is trying to build one. The defense line is still a question mark and the line backers did not hear much on them. But to the Team of the Atlanta Falcons in camp thanks for all the hard work. Section 211 at the dome we are ready for some foot ball! This well be a great year!

By morris

May 14, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

I’m just so happy to see that damned midget offensive line approach scrapped. I also believe that with the new fullback that norwood is a guy who can definantely run inside. He proved to me last year that he is not only super fast but also pretty damn tough. Another thing that I like about petrino is his willingness to throw the ball to the running backs. I never understood why mora and co. refused to throw to dunn and norwood when both are very good pass receivers. Both are capable of taking it to the house on a well devised screen play. I hope shockley can hold onto the #3 QB position because he is a great young man. Only wished vick had shockley’s character then we would be in business.

By D-Man

May 14, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Stephen and Dude, you guys are great optimist!! I am glad some people are smart enough to care about football and not what kind of underwear MV is wearing. Pooooooor Publishing to AJC!! Ray B. comes back and screams slander now they remove their previous post about what he said, that SUCKS!! Steve Wyche is an idiot, and he’s mad Mike won’t speak with him, I wouldn’t either you JERK!!

By D-Man

May 14, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Morris, I like you but understand what you say about character, Vick has character he just lacks the ability to trasition into a man just yet in the aspect of eliviating his company. But I am sure he’s over it now and we need to focus in on football. I like Petrino and company, I think we have a good shot at the division if our defense lives up to the hype. I wish we went with another option at MLB because Brooking is good but he isn’t great at the position but hey you can’t stick him outside because he’ll get burned as the past proved. Because of players like Reggie Bush and Cadillac we need to prepare for the outside pursuit. We need a very strong interior, and PLEASE don’t let Rossum return balls this year he’s not trying to score anymore!! We still have issues that we need to pan out before the SB but we do have a great shot at the Division!! GOOD CHOICE AT COACHES!!

By K. Juniel

May 14, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Who cares about Vick and his issues? I’m really tired of hearing about it. Petrino is putting together a system that can be ran with or without Vick. All Vick has to do is stay out of trouble and be consistent on the field. Oh, and for the record Greg Knapp sucked. His play calling was terrible and he never adjusted to what the defense was doing, I here Petrino is the exact opposite.

By semperfi

May 14, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Actually - it was Beverly that was released and re-signed with Detriot.

By SC

May 14, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Steve, thanks for the update on Roddy. I got the wrong impression from Blog-That-Kick. Good to hear that Roddy is looking great. Joe Horn is may not be here in four years, and it would be a pity to miss with the first rounder spent on Roddy.

How about Vincent Marshall?

By D-Man

May 14, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Hey K.Juniel great comment!!

By aqg

May 14, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

its the papers job and responsibilty to report on vick both off the field and on it. and his off-field issues can affect the team if he is suspended, another reason that they are reporting about the situation. not to mention that he is perhaps the best known person in atlanta, therefore he will get more press especially when he is possibly involved with a felony. i am also tired of hearing about vicks off-field problems but its up to him to make them go away not the ajc or steve wyche. so i think your anger is in the wrong place…

By green tea

May 14, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

What I’d like to be informed about is the kicking game. Everyone knows that it is probably the most important position on the field.

ENOUGH with the MV gossip already, this publication is like the effin National Enquirer.

By Scooter

May 14, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

Steve, thanks for the post. You do a great job! Keep them coming. Go Falcons!

By Dude

May 14, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

ajg, I’m not angry at all. And I understand the AJC has a responsibility. I’m saying they should be responsible in undertaking that responsibility. Wyche wasn’t man or decent enough to even apologize over the water bottle incident. Yes, there were still lots of questions about that issue, but he couldn’t bring himself to admit where he was wrong. Perhaps the fact that there was nothing to that story explains his obsession with making the dog-fighting story stick. Every day he and the AJC take out the trash at our expense, even when there’s nothing to say. Let’s discuss football, and the fact that the Falcons are taking great shape.

By Live Life

May 14, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Well we all know Vick will be okay!can’t wait too see how we use Norwood this year.

By Mr Me

May 14, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Petrino said that he was impressed with the backs we have. He said that he thought we needed to get bigger but that we will be fine with Dunn and Norwood. Nothing was really mentioned about the Linebackers much but it is only the beginning stages. Sam Adams was just released and I think we should get him. He is 33 but Grady Jackson was helpful aroung the same age. Mike Zimmer has always been sucessful in his 4-3 schemes. Dallas switched to the 3-4 and he made that work as well. Our defense will be fast because our offense will be faster than before. With the defense practicing against our offense daily we should be in the middle of the pack this year if not better. Also the Vick thing is pretty tiring. They might as well get their info from tabloids because you have guys re-tracting what they’ve said(Ray Ray). Normally when you have a strong case, you will have been charged by now Vick has not so that means they are really searching to make something stick. Anyways, I said earlier that we will have a playoff year and I am sticking to that. You can never go wrong with a QB like Mike Vick like him or not!

By For what?

May 14, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

What does Wyche have to apologize for over the water bottle? The bottle substance was never tested. Cops just relieved themselves of a media headache they didn’t want. For a few dark flakes in a fake water bottle, I would have too.

By think about it

May 14, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Steve thanks for trying to keep it foorball related. Believe it or not it’s not us the fans that keep blowing the flame. Try talking to your bosses at ajc about all the negative reporting about mv. We as fans i say again fans would love to read football stories about our favorite team and players, not all this over hyped journalism. Lets stop the witch hunt and talk football. P.S why doesn’t some of your peers go after the story that will exonerate mv? You may find more to the story than meets the eye. Hint Hint animal cruelty is not hard to prove so why hasn’t anyone been charged? Maybe let this linger on so that the police dept doesn’t have a public relations nightmare. This case doesn’t hold water your now telling me dogs are more important than drugs. No drugs better find something. Again animal cruelty is not hard to prove. Where is the charge there want be one. Think about it!!!!!!

By mikegadawg

May 14, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

HEEEELLLOOOO! Am I the only one that realizes that Vick is only here for another year? (if he makes it that long) BROHM is our future QB. Patrino influenced him to stay at Louisville for one more year. He knew that would be enough time for Vick to hang himself with all the new rope (ability to call audibles) he has been given. I mean who eles would be a better fit for a coaches scheme then a QB that has excelled under it? Afterall, last i checked, 70% completion rate (BROHM’s completion rate last year)is waaaaaaaaaaay much mo betta then Vick’s 50%. You heard it here first! This time next year, the Falcons will have another top ten pick and will trade up to a top three, maybe even #1, to get BROHM. No brainer here folks.

By MIKE VICK IS A HORRIBLE QUARTERBACK

May 14, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

I’ll keep it “football related”.

FACT: Mike Vick can’t play the quarterback position in the NFL.

By This Just In

May 14, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

WHERE THERE IS SMOKE,…. THERE IS FIRE! Anyone within’ 100 yards of MV will suffocate from the thickness of the smoke. Everything we hear may notall be true but damn sura aint all false either. I smell somthing burning! OMG! IT’S MV’S CAREER! QUICK! Someone grab a race card!

By #1 FalconFan

May 14, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

oooops, soory, forgot to remove my paper sack. There. As the Falcons #1 fan, i would like to know how any team in the NFL plans to be successfull without a true starting QB? PLEASE! For the love of football PLEASE get us a QB. Regardless of Vick’s inability to adapt to society, PLEASE GET US A QB!!!! I like winning and MV is a L-O-S-E-R! Oh yea, before I put my paper sack back on, I’m black so please dont call me a racist.

By Favre4Vick

May 14, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Let’s Ship Vick off to Green Bay for Brett Favre!

Oh, Wait! People will call us “Racists” if we try to UPGRADE our football team.

Goodness Forbid!

By Disgracefull

May 14, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Looks like the team is comming together nicely. I think we have a playoff team. All we need is a playoff QB. I hope Michael Vick is that QB. Regardless, Michael Vick is a disgrace to the Falcons and the NFL but hey, it’s all about the money and for some unknow reason Michael Vick puts fannies in the seats. Even when he is losing. Which unfortunatly has been alot lately. Michael Vick is DISGRACEFULL!

By A-Town Vet

May 14, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

…and I bet you live somewhere north of I-20. Talk that Sh*t on the Southside. And that is not downtown.

By K. Juniel

May 14, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

First off Vick is a good quarterback. He’s accurate and he has ONE of the strongest arms in the league. Vick has NEVER had an offensive line to protect him and he doesn’t average many attempts per game. So when a receiver drops one when they actually do pass it just looks bad on him. Peyton Manning wouldn’t be a great passer if he was sent out there with two average receivers, he couldn’t change the play, and on every 3rd and 8 he gets a play action like it’s really fooling someone. You will see this year if Vick can succeed in a system built for a passing QB.

By WeLikeMike

May 14, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

I can’t WAIT to, you know, buy one of those new Mike Vick jerseys with his, you know, name and brand new number on it!

VICK, M.

Does anyone, you know, know when FALCONS 365 will get their first, you know, shipment?

You know what I’m sayin’?

By FalconsforLife

May 14, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Haters, don’t you love them.

I’m just ready for August. Then we’ll see where our team really is. This minicamp was for coaches and coaches alone. Fans and the media need to just sit back and let the summer have way. Unfortunately, there will be more unrelated football issues to discuss and I’m sure the media will give us an ear-full.

By Falcon

May 14, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Bring back Kanell and Johnson. They were way better than Vick. When you look at a football only perspective - Don’t you have to lose more games than you win to be a loser? Another of my favorite questions - when was the last time your biggest concern in winning a game was Vick?

By #1 FalconFan

May 14, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

southside, eastside, northside, westside…. no matter which direction you go if you are following Vick be prepared to endup either in jail or at the top of the NFL draft next year. Makes no diff Bra

By VICK DA MAN

May 14, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

My wife and I getting us each one. When we called and tried to preorder, they told us they will only have them in HOME DEPOT orange at first. They MAY get some variants in that are in Falcons colors MV7 Here we come BABY!

VICK, M. * # 91290835-7*

!!!

By This Just In

May 14, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

MV had a losing record last year….. ergo…. L-O-S-E-R!

By godawg

May 14, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

“Where there is smoke there is fire!” HILLARIOUS post. I am still laughing. Sometimes the truth hurts and sometimes it is funny as all get out.

By Falcon

May 14, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

A common cry for the Vick’s a thug crowd is the water Bottle incident. This bottle WAS test by the Metro-Dade Crime Lab (Drug Analyst Oliver Spicer) This information was released by Assistant DA Deisy Rodriquez on January 22, 2007 so try to get the facts straight on this. Guilty despite proven innocent.

By What is the deal!

May 14, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

What is the deal with all the Vick appologist’s and all of their excuses? Why not just just sit there and take the justified negative remarks. Once MV actually comes out and does perform like all you MV appologist say that he will THEN and only then will you have any merit. Until then, you sound like a bunch of toddlers that have had your lollipop taken away. Until then, sit down, shut up, and PLEASE STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE BOY!

By Falcon

May 14, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

This just in - Falcons defense was abysmal last year. See Carolina game where Falcons could not stop the run - without a QB on the filed for the Panthers. It is your right to hate Vick.

By Matthew At The SLC

May 14, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Umm, not to pile on, but the stuff WAS tested. It was found to not be mary jane. Regardless, the thing in VA bothers me, but sometimes, when it looks like an athlete may be guilty of something bad at the beginning, once the real facts start to come out, he can be exhonorated, like Kobe and that slut from Colorado. Or, the system gets off a guilty guy, like Ray “Accessory to Murder” Lewis, or OJ “If I Did it, I Would Have Done it That Way” Simpson. Either way, guys like Don Banks, with an obvious axe to grind against Vick shouldn’t be trusted. Don Banks has let it be known through his writing that he is friends with Little Jimmy Mora and blames Vick for Mora getting fired. His “secret” sources smell like insider info that could only come from Little Jimmy or Greg Knapp, two guys who also blame Vick, when they should really look in the mirror. Also, why doesn’t anyone also realize that some of the “secret” sources are probably guys that Vick just jetisoned from his posse who’ve lost their meal ticket and will now say anything to get back at Vick? Add to that the beef that Mike Florio over at profootballtalk has with Vick because Vick used to beat Florio’s beloved Mountainqueers like a toy drum, and everything that’s being said right now just smells like sour grapes and ground axes. There is NOTHING of substance that has come out yet, certainly not from Don Banks, and until there is, everyone should focus on football.

I trust Len Pastabelly, who used to cover the Falcons for the AJC, and who covers the NFL for ESPN. He’s not touching Don Banks’ story with a 10-foot pole, and Len, who has ACTUAL sources within the Falcons organization, has said on ESPN that he’s heard nothing of the kind of stuff that Banks wrote about. So Steve… the question is… where do you fall? Are you going to be objective, like Len Pastabelly, or are you going to be biased and grind your axe (if you have one) like Don Banks? Vick may be guilty, and if he is, I honestly hope he goes to JAIL for the maximum penalty. Not just suspended… but JAIL! Dog fighting is for degenerate, less than human, soulless, sociopathic people who I fully believe will burn in hell for their torture of dogs, who are loyal and loving creatures. And if Vick is guilty of this, then he will burn, if not this life, then the next. But I’m telling you guys… something STINKS about Don Banks and his story. I smell Little Jimmy Mora all over that column. I smell sour grapes from former members of Vick’s posse who now have to find jobs instead of mooching off of Vick and bringing him down.

This is all much ado about nothing. Let’s wait until something comes out of VA, or until the Commish suspends Vick (if he will do anything at all).

By sugarlee

May 14, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

By A-Town Vet

May 14, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

By FireMashalArthur

May 14, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

Where Vick is concerned…

Where there is smoke,

there is probably a BONG !

By austin bailey

May 14, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Falcons are really shaping up a lot like the Saints last year. Going into the season they had the controversy of Katrina and not knowing where they would play games. Nobody i mean nobody picked them to finish higher than last in the NFC south. Payton came in and institutedhis style of play.Got rid of dead weight and kept a solid core of players including Joe Horn. Fast forward to now. A offense put in by Petrino very similar to what Dan Reeves was doing. No doubt in my mind Vick will flourish and silence the critics and the Falcons will make the playoffs but as always in football one must add if they don’t have key injuries.I’m excited!!!!

By The Truth

May 14, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

(http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wveclocal043007vicksurry_latest.227f5d20.html)

The AJC is not interested in reporting the truth. The sherif in VA has already said that Vick is not likely to be charged. The AJC is terrible

By Ex-Con

May 14, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

If VICK sees jail time, he will go from playing quarterback to playing CENTER.

Count on That.

By C-Man

May 14, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

I know that Finn was a clutch receiver before he got hurt, but he has NO speed to talk of, especially post surgery. I’m personally hoping that between Horn, Jenkins, White, Gibson, Laurent and w/e draft pick from last year someone has the hands to go out and catch the ball, which would allow the Falcons to cut or trade Fin because he isn’t getting any younger and relying on two 30+ receivers is a dangerous proposition. I also hope that the Falcons can land a sick MLB next year so that Brooking can get out of town. He is a great guy, but a slow, average football player. How does signing LaVar Arrington sound?

By Prove it

May 14, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

Show me Matthew where ANY law enforcement source actually says it was tested and it was not pot. Remember, it was going to be months, it’s not a priority, etc., etc. Then, weary of all the calls from reporters, law enforcement quietly dropped it. But I’ll bet you cannot find any source who actually says it was tested.

By dirtybyrd

May 14, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

yes the ajc is consistant on one thing that is jumping to blame and not finding out all facts 1st before they convict some one of wrong doing, its not just in sports look at other storys and u will see the pattern of poor judgement.

By All Vick Haters

May 14, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

To the Number 1 Falcon’s Fan: There’s always a Tom amongst us……Who cares about your skin color, the only color that matters is “GREEN”. Last year the Falcons finished 12th overall in total offense, 29th in defense, Vick was 7th in touchdown passing, and also lead the team in rushing. I guess MV is responsible for the defense too. Before MV, no one including myself did not go to the Falcon’s games nor watch it on TV(that’s right)the games were blacked out. Because of MV, the Falcon’s are on national TV. It’s amazing that most people that hate on Michael Vick never played junior high football,high school footbal, especially college football. Quit crying because Matt went to Houston, be happy for him. Were else can a backup quarterback that never won a game in the NFL get $48 Million. Remember, if you gonna hate on Vick. Add up the bottom line, does he win more than he lose. Fantasy Football stats do not make a football player. I thought Atlanta natives knew football, oh that’s right. It’s all about the SEC here……………….. PS Black is a color, like no other. You don’t have to be black to hate vick, because ignorance is colorblind.

By UGA @$$ Holes REDNECKS

May 14, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

The Mike Vick defeatist are loser . ESPN the herd fox sport si. all are defeatist . Vick will win all the way around. The defeatist pour out half truths, lies, and pure gossip. It’s all how the defeatist feel to hell with them just smearer. Falcons Fans this team will win. The hater or defeatist will go in to pure melt down. when we win it will be because we have a coach that know the game mike has other skilled player around him and the defense has skill player that are not hurt!

By UnHappyFan

May 14, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

So, now we hear law enforcement can connect Vick to organized animal fighting directly.

Blank, you should be the one fired. You knew what your star, face of the franchise employee did- off the clock, and turned a blind eye. And if you didn’t, that’s another reason to fire you.

It would be very, very interesting if this investigation happened to make it’s way into the Fal-CON’s organization. Perhaps the management won’t “neglect” it then.

By Just one Vick hater

May 14, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

And I’m not really a Vick hater. I like to watch him play and want him to do well. That said, he is a pot smoking, herpes spreading, possibly dog fighting knucklehead. If he quits being stupid, he can survive and thrive (provided he’s not charged with dogfighting). And I hope he does, because I’m a Falcons fan and he’s our quarterback.

Also a reality check: Does he win more than he loses? Not the past two seasons. And, if he was seventh in TD passes last year, he also led the worst passing attack in the league.

I’m for a turnaround for both Vick and the Falcons. But he DOES have something to prove.

By JackSheet

May 14, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Is anyone suspicious that Ray Ray’s comments surface in Tampa? They have nothing to gain from Vick sitting out this season - not.

Pssst….I heard Gaines Adams was involved in a cat-juggling ring. Tell Chris Landry!

By All Vick Haters

May 14, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

I remember a couple of years ago, traditionalist and Vick Hater’s got their wish. MV broke his leg and then came the savior, “the person that should be starting in front of MV”. Doug Johnson. Arthur Blank had to apologize to the fans and the NFL. Is our memeory that distant of what happen. Vick haters hate on him for personal reasons, that’s jealousy. A weak emotion usually found in women. For all of the haters that hate cornrolls and hip hop music, step to next person that fits that description and call him a “THUG”. I’ll be waiting….. I fit that description, but I’m a college educated small business owner that supports HBCU’s-Number: #1 Falcon’s Fan-that historical black colleges and universities.

By morris

May 14, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

I want vick to be innocent for the good of the team but it bothers me that he claims that he new nothing about dogs on the property. It has also been reported that neighbors claim that not only does he visit the property but he comes often. That alone cast a lot of doubt about his innocence as far as I’m concerned. Please don’t try to tell me he paid 750,000 for that property and allowed family to live there but never visited. That dude has spent a lot of his offseason time back in the area he grew up in and anyone who thinks he never showed up at that property is stupid.

By Najeh Davenpoop

May 14, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

I’m glad to hear that the WRs are looking good. I want to see the route-running improve among the WRs this year, because that was nearly as big a problem as pass-catching last year. I gotta say though, Roddy White’s performance in mini-camp doesn’t say a whole lot — hearing footsteps in a real game from a head-hunting safety is going to test his hands a lot more than a non-contact minicamp.

Based on what was said on Blog That Kick, I’m a little concerned about Jimmy Williams though. I would have liked to see an update from Wyche about Williams and how well he’s picking up the free safety position. With a rookie likely starting at the #2 corner position, the free safety’s ability to help over the top is crucial, particularly when the strong safety Lawyer Milloy is better suited to playing near the line of scrimmage at this point in his career.

And about the Vick situation, I am just soooooo surprised that a Fox reporter passed along second-hand information that turned out to be false. After all, it’s not like Fox has ever lied about or exaggerated a news report before. The AJC does jump to conclusions way too quickly, but you can’t fault them for reporting something that was already reported on another site, as disreputable as they may be.

By Falcon

May 14, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Prove it - see my post directly above Matt @ SLC - What part is confusing? The Metro Dade Crime Lab or the DA Office?

By mo

May 14, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

So Finneran re-injured his knee, huh? Well, that answers my first question…

So, who do we have that is a clutch receiver and a big target that will take Finneran’s place?

By Fans with $hit for brains and sport writers

May 14, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

The fin man has gone down again I hate that I hope he come back. (Prove It )is a defeatist an he and the hater or always on the wrong side . They believe what they want to believe. Gossip is there only way to go. They don’t believe in facts!

By uagrad

May 14, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

do you realize the, “where there is smoke there is fire” statement is false. There isn’t always fire where there is smoke. Yeah that is hilarious.

By Ken Strickland

May 14, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

MATTHEW AT THE SLC….Good post, only a fool would argue with logic and common sense. This is the 1st time in Vicks career the OFF won’t revolve totally around him. The OL will be designed to protect him in the pocket. He’ll have more receiving options, especially his RB’s. The OFF will be balanced for the 1st time in 3yrs.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the teams weaknesses under Mora, pass blocking, passing OFF & DEF, dropped passes, short yardage and redzone OFF, turned out to be strengths under Petrino. It’s certainly possible since our draft and FA signings have been geared to address those issues. If this team develops the right attitude and executes Petrino’s system properly, we will be a SB contender for sure.

By uagrad

May 14, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

Can someone tell me what the Falcons record is without Vick starting? I believe its 9-28 or something. It seems that would let you know what this team would be like without Vick. Just replace the QB and look how bad the team is. People need to think and do research before they just spew, Vick sucks all over the place. Even the great Matt Schaub was 0-3 as a starter with this team.

By Great Falconi

May 14, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

Here’s something for ya. It comes from Pro Football Talk, a damn good football website, I might add:

*POSTED 7:29 a.m. EDT, May 12, 2007

POINDEXTER PROTECTING VICK?

One of the most powerful positions in law enforcement, arguably even more powerful than judge, is that of prosecutor. It’s the prosecutor who has broad discretion to decide who gets charged with crimes, and who doesn’t.

And because most state-level prosecutors are elected officials, they often have their sights set on higher political offices. At a minimum, they hope to keep the office they currently hold. So their discretion is necessarily influenced (consciously or not) by whether and to what extent the exercise of said discretion will help or hurt the cause.

So one of the basic questions regarding the possibility that Falcons quarterback Michael Vick will face charges for dog fighting is whether Surry County prosecutor Gerald Poindexter believes that pursuing Vick will help Poindexter’s broader political goals. Or hurt them.

And while there’s a sense that public opinion is turning sharply against Vick in other parts of the country, Vick is a Virginia native. If folks in Virginia still love him, then the decision becomes more delicate for Poindexter.

The signs, for now, are that Poindexter is leaning against pursuing Vick. Speaking exclusively to WAVY-TV, Poindexter denied reports that investigators have “compiled substantial evidence” of dog fighting and have turned it over to the prosecutor’s office.

Poindexter reportedly was at the property on the day that police recovered nearly 70 dogs, and WAVY-TV saw dogs with clear scarring on their faces. But Poindexter now denies seeing any scarred dogs.

“This is not a witch hunt, okay? I won’t be driven by people who hate Vick or people who love dogs,” Poindexter said.

That’s fine, Poindexter. And it’s fair. You should be driven by the facts and the law. And just as you shouldn’t be driven by people who love dogs or hate Vick, you also shouldn’t be driven by concerns that going after a local hero might keep you from keeping the position you currently hold, or acquiring a higher elected office.

And, frankly, after observing Poindexter’s attire and demeanor during his on-camera interview with WAVY, we’re convinced that he is planning to give Vick a pass.

Then again, the fact that the feds are reportedly on the case could make Poindexter’s ultimate position pointless. Federal prosecutors are appointed not elected, and are far more likely to take on a high-profile target, since a conviction in such circumstances sends a valuable message to the rest of us that no one is above the law.*

By Patman

May 14, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

You armchair law enforcement experts still can’t (or won’t) tell us what happened at patrick Kerney’s house, can you?

By RamblinLonghorn

May 14, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

What do you people mean when you say we shouldn’t focus on Vick’s off the field troubles. Simple fact: Michael Vick in Jail will guarantee this team a losing season. Nothing that happens during the offseason or training camp will have more of an impact than these investigations.

Who cares how fresh he looks if he’s going to spend the season in a Virginia prison.

By Moe A

May 14, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this

I do believe that J. williams will be a great starter in Free Safety and John ABraham will be the Sack leader which will lead to a defensive player award to him. The rookies sound good so far especially houston and robinson. AND what was oakland thinkin when they got greg knapp as there offensive coordinator.

By dash

May 14, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this

To you FAIR WEATHER Falcon fans, why are we still talking about Vick? He has not been charged with anything yet. Right now, it is not on Goodall’s radar screen.If and when he is, then it is an issue. But for right now, if you are a true Falcon fan, he is our QB. The Chicago, Philly and NY fans can be obnoxious sometimes but at least they are loyal. We had one of the best drafts that I can remember as a Falcon fan(can you say Audray Bruce?). Petrino has not won a game yet but we all can say that we like what we see. He actually realizes that the OL needs to be bigger in order to win games in the 4th quarter as well as to form a POCKET. Based on the early reviews, we have WRs and TEs that can catch. I believe that Joe Horn is going to bring some leadership at that position. Also, that kid Larent looks to be the truth and if Finn can get health, we may have a WR corps. Our defense got a major upgrade. When we get Williams and Coleman back, and if we can work this out with Grady, we may have a fairly solid defense. If we can score in the red zone and not give up so many big plays, we should have a good season. So to all of the ignorant folks, if you have an issue with our team, don’t watch and SHUT UP. To the true fans, it is looking more positive that it has in a very long time! GO FALCONS!!

By Moe A

May 14, 2007 7:27 PM | Link to this

PS steve is not as bad as the other guy morman or something like that

By Moe A

May 14, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

Ah DASH you read my Mind

By shaka

May 14, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this

the buchannon comment was great i liked the way you idiots took it off after you found out he didnt say that so if vick is found not guilty all the journalist should write an apology and if not the hell with you guys also i said this before dont act like you guys noses are clean who publish this stuff i know all of you have done something wrong in your life and gotten away with it yall just dont make 130million so know one cares about you guys you see the difference when your broke no one cares if you have dogfights but when your paid like him you cant have privacy later dudes

By VICK OUT OF JAIL = FALCONS LOSE

May 14, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this

Here is what will happen this football season:

Vick will not be in prison, and he will “lead” the Falcons to another losing season (6-10 is my guess).

If you want the Falcons to have a winning season, I suggest you support Mike Vick being sent to prison. However, if you don’t care about the Falcons, but only Mike Vick, then you should support Vick remaining quarterback.

So, which are you: a Falcons fan, or a Mike Vick apologist? You can’t be both.

By Ken Strickland

May 14, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this

People with agendas, or personal issues won’t allow themselves to be influenced by something as trivial to them as facts, common sense and logic. If it doesn’t support their agenda, or preconceived notions, it can’t be considered. Here are some examples: See UAGRAD 6:49PM post. He showed the losing record when Vick isn’t the starting QB, something like 9-28. Now, these HATERS are quick to blame Vick for the Falcons last two seasons 2nd half losing records. However, when it comes to the 1st half winning record for the same seasons, these clowns get amnesia, and become deaf and dumb.

Let’s present these HATERS with some facts and questions, then watch how stupid some of their responses are. Observe how they overlook, avoid, deflect, or downright deny the facts. In the entire history of the Atlanta Falcons Franchise(1)only one QB, CChandler, has taken the team further in the playoffs than Vick. (2)Vick is the only Falcon QB to have back to back nonlosing seasons, and only 1 losing season in 4yrs as a starter. (3)How many Falcon QB’s can claim 2 trips to the playoffs in 4yrs as a starter? (4)How many Falcon QB’s have more playoff wins, winning seasons, or total wins? (5)How many Falcon QB’s can claim they have sold out more gms than possibly all other Falcon QB’s combined? (6)How many former Falcon QB’s have appeared on primetime TV more often than Vick?

This, according to HATERS, is the resume of a losing QB that can’t lead the Falcons to the playoffs or the SB. Yet, they felt MSchaub, a 3yr backup with no career victories, and career stats that were worse than Vicks could. There are actually dillusional HATERS that believe DJ Shockey, a UGA grad that’s been a career clipboard carrier all but 1yr since leaving high school, can lead the Falcons to a winning season. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, TRUTH, FACTS, REALITY, LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE, ARE A HATERS WORST ENEMY. IT ALL INTERFERS WITH THEIR AGENDA AND/OR PERSONAL ISSUES.

By Matthew At The SLC

May 14, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this

Great Falconini,

Profootballtrash is NOT a great website for football.

Mike Florio is a horse’s A$$ who has an axe to grind with Michael Vick, and has had one since Vick used to beat the crap out of Florio’s favorite Mountainqueer football team like a toy drum. That website is hardly ever right about their conjecture, and mostly, when they are, they are reprinting early stuff from other people that is posted on websites like ajc.com or si.com for the morning. Now, they don’t claim that stuff as their own, so they aren’t complete slimeballs, but they have an obvious bias about Vick. Therefore, anything that they say about Vick shouldn’t be trusted. Much like with anything that Don Banks says about Vick. Once again, Vick may be guilty, or he may not be guilty, but if you are going to tabloid sites like profootballtrash to get your news, then you are no better than liberals who only listen to Keith Olberman, or conservatives who only listen to Rush Limbaugh.

Basically, if you’re too dumb to get the analogy, you’re only going to hear or read what you want to hear or read when you read a tabloid site like profootballtrash. What this Vick stuff needs is objectivity. Trust guys like Len Pastabelly, Peter King, Mike Silver, Pete Prisco, or other national media guys who are far enough away from the issue, and have no evident biases like Don Banks. Also, you need to avoid tabloid sites like profootballtrash run by that idiot Florio. He’s not going to tell you anything which doesn’t serve his own purposes.

By LET'S LOOK AT QB RATING

May 14, 2007 9:41 PM | Link to this

Let’s look at Falcon’s QB rating since 2001:

2001 Chandler 84.1 (14 games)

2002 Mike Vick 81.1 (15 games)

2003 Mike Vick 69.0 (5 games)

2003 Doug Johnson 67.5 (10 games)

2004 Mike Vick 78.1 (15 games)

2005 Mike Vick 73.1 (15 games)

2005 Matt Schaub 98.1 (1 game [as a starter])

2006 Mike Vick 75.7 (16 games)

It’s clear to any clear thinking person that Mike Vick is NOT a quality NFL quarterback. He may be able to run and jump, but being a quarterback in the NFL isn’t running and jumping - it’s making good, quick decisions, and having an accurate and adequately strong enough throwing arm.

If running and jumping makes a great NFL quarterback, then why hasn’t anyone signed the one of the greatest athletes to ever walk the face of the Earth, a man in his prime TODAY, Roman Sebrle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_%C5%A0ebrle

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2004/08/24/sp_olysebrle.jpg

By BadNewsVA

May 14, 2007 10:41 PM | Link to this

You weezles in GA wouldn’t know a good quarterback if one sat on your face. All your talk and I do mean talk about Vick and his inability to be a NFL quarterback. Helloooooooooo, he is an NFL quarterback. If you haven’t noticed, he’s a 1st team franchise qb. Your opinions about his abilty to play the postion mean absolutely nothing. So get your qb rating stats and post them on all the blogs you can come across. The Warwick High, VA Tech kid will shine like he’s always done.

By Matthew At The SLC

May 14, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this

QB Rating Guy,

Even credible sports journalists say that the QB rating is a load of crap. Did you know that Ben Roethlisberger won the Super Bowl with a 22 Rating? Or that guys like Trent Dilfer, Joe Namath, Terry Bradshaw, or John Elway never had ratings that were very high either? The QB Rating was invented to show everyone how “awesome” all those weak-armed West Coast Offense QB’s were. Guys who chuck it down the field like Bradshaw, Namath, early Elway, Roethlisberger, and yes, Vick, don’t apply to the dink and dunk QBs who have “awesome” QB ratings like Young, Montana, and every other WCO QB ever. Not to say that they’re bad QBs, or the chuckers are better. The chuckers are just different. Sometimes, you have hybrid guys, who can do both. Guys like Marino, Manning, and Brady. But guys like Culppepper, Vick, Roethlisberger, early Elway, Bradshaw, Namath, etc. don’t fit into the QB Rating system you seem to think is so awesome. Here are some reasons why:

Does your QB rating for Matt Fraud say that in his one start against the Patriots, he was facing the 32nd (that would be last) ranked pass defense, against a defense which was minus Richard Seymour, Tedi Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, Ty Law, and their other starting corner? Does your QB rating say that? There have been games when Vick has been over 100 in rating, too. So that takes care of you insanely putting Matt Fraud on your list.

Does your QB rating system account for the kind of offense that the QB plays in, or what is asked of him, or if the offense plays to the QBs strengths? Joe Montana would have failed in the 70’s Pittsburgh Offense. Terry Bradshaw would have failed in the 80’s 49er Offense. Only one QB in the history of the game has been able to thrive in both the play-action orientated, chuck it down the field offense and the WCO, and that’s Elway. Did you know, QB Rating Guy, that Elway NEVER had a completion percentage over 60% when he played for Reeves, and that the only time he did was while playing the WCO for Shanahan. And let it be known that Greg “The Idiot” Knapp is no Shanahan. It’s no secret why Vick played best in a play-action passing offense. It suits his strengths. What is Petrino going to bring in here? A hybrid offense, yes. But one based off the play-action, with a line that will actually give Vick a pocket to stay in, something he never had under the Idiot Mora Regime. It’s a kind of offense which is beginning to make a comeback now that there is the Cover 2, which basically was invented by Tony Dungy to shut down the WCO by having the corners always looking at the QB and playing zone to take away the intricate crossing routes of the WCO and stop the play directly after the catch. See, that was the strength of the WCO, recievers who got YAC (yards after catch), and the Cover 2 basically negates that.

What I like to see are games like the Cincy game from last year, when Mike Vick basically said in the huddle, “Screw Greg Knapp and his terrible playcalling… HERE’S what we’re going to do.” And you know what happened? 22 yard TD to Jenk. Michael Vick can get it done. But QB Rating Guy, even the best need great coaching to become the best. Does anyone think that Brady or Montana become anything without Weis or Walsh to guide them? And great QBs also need guys who can play in front of them, too. Does Brady win those three Super Bowls without Andruzzi, Light, and the other three guys who made up the best O-line in football, not to mention the great D they had? Does Elway EVER win without T.D., Neil Smith, or crazy Bill Romanowski? Does Aikman win without a great line, great defense, and Irvin and Smith? No, they don’t.

You guys who expect Vick to magically fix this team and win every game by himself are the guys who keep on claiming he can’t get it done. Because YOU’RE the ones with screwed up expectations. You all obviously know NOTHING about football. Vick CAN get it done. He’s proven it under the team Reeves built. He did it 2002. He played his butt off for Phillips in 2003 when he came back from injury after Reeves was fired (20/20 vision now says that was a mistake), including beating eventual NFC Champion Carolina in a game Carolina desperately needed for home field in the playoffs. He did it in 2004 with the team that Reeves built and Little Jimmy Mora “coached,” although, looking back, that was all Vick, running around making it work. And when Little Jimmy Mora, that spoiled, petulant brat got his way, and turned the o-line into Smurfs, and made Jason Webster a starter, and let guys on the defense have a total lack of discipline on the field (hello DHall, I’m talking to YOU and your idiot, avoidable personal foul penalties!) not to mention, let his BFF Greg “I’m the Worst OC in the HISTORY of the NFL” Knapp chain Vick to an offense not only ill-suited to his talents, but he let Greg Knapp call the most unimaginative, and even worse, set in stone, won’t change for anything even though the defense knows exactly what I’m calling, offensive game plans ever… then yes, Vick could no longer do it by himself, as he essentially did in Little Jimmy Mora’s first year.

So you know what? It’s idiots like you, who expect Vick to do it by himself, who refuse to see that Little Jimmy Mora made it IMPOSSIBLE for ANY QB to win in Atlanta, as your beloved Matt Fraud showed, with his awesome 0.0 winning percentage. So why don’t you take your QB Ratings and shove them up your butt, because they’re worth about that much.

By falcon

May 14, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this

LET’S LOOK AT QB RATING also forgot to include schaub qb rating for 2006

By Idiots!!

May 14, 2007 11:17 PM | Link to this

You RACIST bigots!! You hate Vick because he’s black and your not!! Racist a_sses!!

By Sweet Irony

May 14, 2007 11:28 PM | Link to this

Why are none of the Vick Lovers able to type in English?

Few literate people will be able to comprehend what those people are writing.

The fact that Vick Supporters are on here calling other people “dumb” and “idiots” and “racists” amuses me.

How Ironic!

By AJC has lost it

May 14, 2007 11:33 PM | Link to this

Moore you being the house boy at AJC you all have lost your damn mind. you @ss holes want a story. Have you read all the Bull$hit lies , and pure gossip you have wrote on Vick and you want him to give you clown a story. just to feed the haters. There is something is going on with this media thing . All the thing you talk about Vick and the Falcon management you at AJC have done some of the same thing just in a different way. You don’t give a damn who you hurt , you just want a story you and your company s sick. And you smear Vick. You are a defeatist moore!

By Ken Strickland

May 14, 2007 11:39 PM | Link to this

Please read the crap posted at 9:41PM. I told you some ignorant HATER would make a stupid response, attempting to justify his personal agenda while ignoring the facts. This fool proudly displays MSchaub’s 05 QB rating(98.1), while failing to show how it benefited the team. MSchaub lost every gm he ever started as a pro, and his CAREER QB rating is worse than Vicks. But again, he can’t let that little FACT get in his way.

This is a classic tactic often used by HATERS to circumvent the facts. They trot out meaningless stats to make themselves feel better about their real agenda. Hey moron, how do suppose those QB ratings changes the FACT that Vick has more playoff and regular season wins, a higher winning %, and more nonlosing seasons? Also, Rex Grossman doesn’t run, jump, doesn’t have a strong accurate arm and didn’t make good decisions. Everyone in Chicago was calling for him to be benched but the HC. Yet, he led his team to the SB. The Falcons went to the 98 SB with Cris Chandler as the QB. We never came close to another winning season until he was replaced by MVick in 02. And Vick didn’t have a workhorse RB like JAnderson, or a WR like Tony Martin to rely on.

LIKE I SAID, FACTS, LOGIC AMD COMMON SENSE ARE ELEMENTS THESE HATERS CAN’T EMBRACE. THEIR PERSONAL AGENDAS JUST WON’T ALLOW IT.

By Fans with $hit for brains +sports writers

May 14, 2007 11:56 PM | Link to this

Sweet Irony if you think you type in English. you are from state that is rank 48 in test scores you Vick hater are the brain dead one here. Every one is always dumb . This why the world hate the USA because people you think like you. when you die will go back to the dirt just like every one else

By Ken Strickland

May 15, 2007 12:21 AM | Link to this

MATTHEW AT THE SLC, you have got to realize your comments were way too deep for these HATERS. Too many facts, too much logic and common sense, and way too informative. Personally, I found one major flaw in your very lenghly comment, it ended. Tell me something, how can someone consider himself intelligent, yet make the same negative comments about the same person, month after month, and think it will change anything. How does repeatedly calling Vick stupid, thug, criminal, or lowlife satisfy their wish of getting him removed as the Falcons QB? How stupid does one have to be not to realize it won’t work?

Matthew, did you know, or have you heard that the Falcon HC, GM, owner, and every national sports outlet has reported that MVick will be the Falcons QB? Did you know they started reporting this info after Pertino was hired last yr. They even reinforced their support of Vick by trading their top backup, MSchaub. TELL ME, WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE TO GET THESE HATERS TO SET ASIDE THEIR PERSONAL AND/OR CULTURAL ISSUES AND ACCEPT REALITY? WHAT DOES IT TAKE? WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR THESE PEOPLE?

By Matthew At The SLC

May 15, 2007 1:18 AM | Link to this

Dude, all I can say is you have to wary about what you read and say. You have to be objective. Understand and read between the lines. T Moore has an axe to grind with the Falcons, but there is a little about what he wrote that makes sense: all of the Dan Reeves stuff. Don Banks, he’s a Little Jimmy Mora lover, he’s not to be trusted when it comes to Vick. Len Pastabelly is, because he’s objective. I’m not sure where Steve or Jeff Schultz, or Mark Bradley lay, but I’d like to think they’d be objective. I know that Schultz gets a kick out of the situation for the unintentional comedy alone, but you wonder why this paper keeps on reporting accusations and conjecture as well, not really fact, but close to it, where the readers will pick it up as fact. You can stick up for Vick when it applies, but don’t be an apologist.

Guilty or innocent, Vick hasn’t acted very well at times, but he has shown at no time, that he is a thug by any definition of the word. He can legitimately blame his posse and family for much that has gone wrong in his life, but I would also like to see Vick take a little responsibility for letting those people do that. They wouldn’t have had that control or that ability if he didn’t give it to them. I think he’s stepping up and kicking people out, and I think that is the genesis of Don Banks’ terrible sour grapes column. I don’t think Arthur has been a great owner for Vick, but I think Petrino will be a great coach for him. I think Vick understands, really understands that this is his last chance. He’s said so. I think it was a mistake for him to come out as a RS Sophomore. Obviously, he hasn’t been mature. But sometimes, you have to learn the hard way if you’re going to learn at all. Maybe Vick is like that.

But to call him a thug based on conjecture and wild accusation by trolls like Mike Florio at his tabloid trashy website is wildly innapropriate and wrong, and to say he can’t get it done on the field is just not true. Amazingly, the some people who hated Little Jimmy Mora and Greg Knapp will add all their faults to Vick’s plate as well. It doesn’t make sense.

People, concentrate on the football, and the actual facts of the football. Has Vick been great? Some say yes, some say no. I think he’s been good, not great and certainly not bad. Facts say he’s the best QB the Falcons have ever had, but that’s really not saying much compared to teams like the Steelers, 49ers, or Cowboys. But for the Falcons, that is great. Could this team win with Matt Fraud, or any other of your Great White Hopes? No, and that’s a fact that was proven time and time again. So drop it. He’s the best chance this team has of winning unless they draft a QB who’s better. Which could happen. Can the team win with Vick? Yes. Can the team win with the kind of coaching staff and offense he’s going to be put into? Yes. Vick played best in a play-action passing game based off of the power running game, which is what Petrino is setting up. Is Matt Fraud going to be wishing he was holding a clipboard by about the 3rd game he has out in Houston? Yes.

See, these are facts. Dispense with conjecture and emotion, and let’s all just be objective, okay?

By Najeh Davenpoop

May 15, 2007 1:26 AM | Link to this

I actually think Moore’s column made some valid points, even if there were other points that weren’t true. The Falcons have treated Vick differently from the rest of the team over the last few years under the Mora regime, which is never a good situation for a team. Whether or not that has had an effect on Vick’s behavior off the field or his focus on the field is a different story. But if there is a sense of entitlement on Vick’s part, as his haters like to say, the Falcons have not done anything to discourage that. I think that was the main point of Moore’s article. Whether your opinion of Vick is good, bad, or neutral, the Falcons organization certainly could have handled him differently.

By Falcons Fan

May 15, 2007 1:34 AM | Link to this

The AJC clearly has a vendetta against Vick nad the Falcons.

Why they detest this man I simply cannot figure out. But the the way the paper is so willin to compromise whatever remains of its journalistic integrity is — quite frankly — embarrassing. This is the only “major” paper in our city and they repeatedly print slanderous, unsubstantiated innuendo about the local pro football team’s quarterback.

What is wrong with this newspaper?

Get Vick.

That’s all this paper seems focused on. Pitiful..

By Najeh Davenpoop

May 15, 2007 1:35 AM | Link to this

In on-the-field news, the Bengals cut massive DT Sam Adams. If the Grady Jackson situation doesn’t work out, Adams may be another obese DT who could plug that hole on the defense.

By Matthew At The SLC

May 15, 2007 1:55 AM | Link to this

Najeh, I agree with the T Moore stuff, read my above. He does have an axe to grind, so you have to be carefull to find the facts in the crap, but it’s there, buried far down, as it usually is in a T Moore column. And I was wondering the same thing about Sam Adams as well. Also, Najeh, what about MeShawn Johnson to take Finn’s place? Buck and Kincade seem to think losing Finn is huge. I like the kid we got from 1-AA, although admitadly, I didn’t at the time. I don’t know if losing Finn is going to be that big a deal, because in this offense, unlike in Knapp’s idiot offense, we’ll be using the RBs as pass catchers as a safety valve for Vick. So that way, he won’t have to try and laser passes in to Alge or a wideout that is taking Finn’s place. Look for Alge to get about 50 catches, Horn to get 50 catches, but the RB’s to get about 60 catches between them. It’s gonna be awesome to see. And that’s the thing I never got about that idiot, Greg Knapp. The WCO is supposed to use the RBs to catch the ball. And when your o-line sucked as much as ours did in pass protection, then you use the screen passes and passes to the flats to keep the defenders honest. I really think that Greg Knapp is the absolute worst playcaller in the NFL, and listening to Troy Aikman dress him down last year on national television for his unimaginative and predictable playcalling was like music to my ears.

By This Gets Old

May 15, 2007 5:07 AM | Link to this

I know, I Know that I’m always writing “Don’t answer the haters” but man this is like Groundhog Day. It never ends. Mythbusting:

Vick is the QB. You CAN move Vick’s contract. There’s not one untradable contract in the NFL. There ARE takers for Vick’s contract.

In the traditional way you take the QB, then the T and FB to protect his backside and guys coming up the middle. Then you add the game breaking RB and WR. Even when taking Chris Miller in ‘87 it took the Falcons three years to take an OL within the first FIVE picks. (Ralph Norwood who was killed in an auto accident)

Q.When is the last time the Falcons took an OL as high as the second round?

A.Travis Claridge in the 2nd round in 2000! Total OL drafted in the top three rounds since that pick ans prior to this draft? ZERO! Two 4th rnd picks in Garza (current Bears starter) and Bilba (out of football)

WR’s we know and RB’s we know but it hasn’t been a priority.

The biggest myth:

Reeves wasn’t fired because of Michael Vick. It was simply a new owner who wanted to start over.

Knapp or never was a man so aptly named

“Steve Young couldn’t even audible in this system and he’s a lawyer”

That’s it in a nutshell. It really says, “I’m smarter than the lawyer and HOF Steve Young” Who did Steve Young have?

On the OL Harris Barton, Guy McIntyre, Derrick Deese and Ray Brown. WR? Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens. Where’s Vick’s Garrison Hearst?

It’s unfair but I think that this is Vick’s last season here. If his agent is top notch you WANT to move him. Look at D.J.’s final season at UGA, how many said that he wasn’t smart enough to run Richt’s system?

The guy already had qualified to graduate. Even in winning Vick can’t win here. When he’s injured it’s his fault. Guys drop passes? It used to be he “throws the ball too hard” In the first qtr of the Green Bay playoff game and Shawn Jefferson caught that bullet…and with Finneran gone (who has had his own problems with drops) that was the last time that Mike could trust the WR’s or the OL.

I’m a big Vick fan, a huge Falcon fan. Free everybody, move Michael. Yes it will be a mistake. It’s Falcon history. If he’d gone to Oakland and they’d taken Calvin…think how miserable we’d be a couple of years down the road. But it’s over and everybody is tired of it.

For his sake move him.

Kannel and Johnson better than Vick??

By long time falcon

May 15, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

I get a good laugh every time I read this stupid falcons blog. On one side you have the so called “haters” and on the other the “apologist”. Both groups think their opinions of vick are right and the other group is wrong. When actually both groups are wrong. Mike vick is not near as bad a player and person as the so called haters claim. Neither is he as good a player and person as the apologist or lovers would claim. The guy falls somewhere in the middle of what both groups think of him. The reality is that this season is huge for him both on and off the field if he is to have a future with this franchise. And it disgust me to no end to hear someone refer to another as a vick hater and in the same breath refer to matt shaub as matt fraud or great white hope. Talk about a low life hypocryte.

By honest_abe

May 15, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

haters… such an elementary term to define people. grow up. just because some people disagree with you does not make them “haters” … ha! sounds like my 15 year old cousin, watching mtv. some of you guys are sad. real sad.

at least it seems like some of you are adding some reason into your posts. vick has been coddled. is he as bad as some of the morons that come on this board describe him to be? not really. but, it’s a matter of being a responsible face of the franchise and the birds under blank never allowed him to mature and learn to accept responsibility. i still have high hopes for #7, but until he can get his perspective in line, he will be labeled kordell stewart #2.

By destin

May 15, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

They always say injuries are a part of the game and that every team has to deal with it, but I didn’t know they were talking about the non-contact portion of the off-season. Couple this with the other ‘issues’ involving key players and we’re on track for next year’s #1 pick. Injured: DWilliams, Coleman, Finneran Coming back from injury/surgery: Forney, Crumpler, Crocker, Dunn, Abraham, etc. Serious off-field issues: Vick, Babineau

By Matthew At The SLC

May 15, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

A low life hypocrite? Dude, I’ve been anything but a hater or an apologist on these boards. What I’ve been is objective. And yes, if you can bring me any facts to prove that Matt Fraud is anything less than a fraud or a Great White Hope, then please do so. Long Time Falcon Fan, I bet you jumped on that Doug Johnson bandwagon too, only to find out he too was a fraud and a Great White Hope. And yes, I’m a white guy. But at least Doug Johnson has something that Matt Fraud doesn’t have (and now that he’s in Houston, may never have): WINS. Yes, Doug Johnson actually won a couple of games in relief of Vick before 2003. Matt Fraud: 0.0 winning percentage.

Low life hypocrite, Long Time Falcons Fan? I’m anything but, you horse’s a$$.

By bk hawk

May 15, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

T. Moore and Falcons coddling Vick is”GREAT”. Alot about Reeves that some people didn’t know and the BS the front office puts out.

By long time falcon

May 15, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

Go crawl back in your hole matthew the hypocrite. I have never pulled against vick or the falcons but I’m a realist when it comes to vick or any other player. To say your a falcon fan and bash others for criticizing vick and then in the same breath denigrate another falcon player is plain childish. Matt shaub was just an innocent bystander in this whole vick conflict and does not deserved to be slandered. In fact in years to come if this falcons draft turns out to be as good as some think you will have matt shaub to thank for it. And next season we still get another second round pick for shaub. So in the end it could be possible that both shaub and vick are key to falcons playoff hopes in years to come. And by the way matthew just because your white doesn’t make it right for you to use a racist term like great white hope. Like abe said some of punks sound like 15 year old MTV kids arguing on this blog.

By MV7 = D & D 2007

May 15, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

MIKE VICK and Those Who Defend Him with Blind Rage and Inarticulate Ramblings -

* DUMB & DUMBER 2007 *

By austin bailey

May 15, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

I just have a few questions i’m sure many of you will have answers to. The NFL does random drug screens has Vickever failed? Whenwas the last time Vick was jailed? Who was the last Falcon OL/WR make pro bowl? Why was Dan Reeves fired? Who hired Terrance Moore? and why? Why is Mike Golic giving false information? When is the media going to be held accountable for their inapropriate behavior?

By Typical Vick Defender

May 15, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

WITCH HUNT!! WITCH HUNT!!

Watch yo bak MIke! They all out to get you ESPN the herd FOX sports 790zone.

MIKE VICK is the most innocent man in the WORLD pure as the driven snow and the GREEATEST QUARTERBACK WHO ever lived.

The Mike Vick defeatist are loser . ESPN the herd fox sport si. all are defeatist . Vick will win all the way around. The defeatist pour out half truths, lies, and pure gossip. It’s all how the defeatist feel to Cleland with them just smearer. VICK IS A CHAMPEON AND DA MAN!!!!!

Some yall say VICK is a crook and dum just cause he smoke a litle weed kill some dogz give out the herps and make some babies. Aint none yall perfect hypocrites! NONE YALL!!!!!!!!

Yall haters try to use that their logic and facts and statistics to back up how bad a QUARTERBAC VICK and try to confuse us all with all that smart people talk. Even credible sports journalists say that the QB rating is a load of crap. Did you know that Ben Roethlisberger won the Super Bowl with a 22 Rating? YEAH THATS RIGHT!!!!!

Any yall dont want MIKE VICK here is just a bunch racist haters and yall just need to die.

KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FITE MIKE!!! HATE ON HATERS!!!!!!

By Matthew At The SLC

May 15, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Dude, once again, if you actually read what I write, I’m not a vIck apologist, and I’ll blast equally those who are along with those who are slinging libel and wild accusations and conjecture about the situation.

But Schaub is a fraud, as much as YOU people have made him to be. He’s not the Great White Hope everyone wanted him to be. Face the facts and these are the facts: his actual numbers are worse than Vick’s. His completion percentage is worse. His TD to INT ratio is worse. He has zero wins, and in the games he came in for Vick, like that game last year against Philly’s 3rd stringers, he still couldn’t get it done. He’s a FRAUD as a QB, because YOU ALL have made him so. Thankfully, because of all the HYPE, we were able to swindle the Texans out of some prime draft picks. But it doesn’t lessen th fact that the dude is a fraud.

You horse’s a$$.

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

This gets old - Kannell Johnson statement - Perhaps you should learn to read in context. It’s called sarcasm.

By honest_abe

May 15, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

get a grip matthew. you are exaggerating just a tad bit when you call him matt fraud and the great white hope. i see long time falcons point in why disparage a guy that has nothing to do with vick. all he’s done is be a model citizen and besides whether you like him or not we were able to get 2 2nd rounders and move up in this years draft. the bottom line is we haven’t seen enough of matt schaub in games that count to determine whether he’s a savior or a bust. besides he was a falcon and all you could do is rag on him… and for what? what’d he do to you? some fan you are.

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

MSLC- The Shaub trade was a good one for the franchise unquestionably - we have a QB. In Shaub’s start against the Pats he played a hell of a game, A game the Falcons lost because they gave up a 20 yard completion on 3rd and long in the last minute to lose on a field goal. Every time I saw him play he looked at least as competent as half the starters in the NFL. Good Size, Mobility and Skill. Hardly a fraud.

By The haters are worth Two dead fly's

May 15, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Mike Vick Haters are defeatist for our team. Something all ways wrong the sky is falling, no leader, can’t pass, . Last time I checked the waiting lists is over 32 thousand people. When Mike goes to play in other town the house is packed. The 130 million is a good deal when you keep your dome packed and other team dome packed. The NFL is making money off of Mike Vick being there. Money talks defeatist look only in there narrow minds and not the big picture. MR. Blank has brought in a new coach that can coach. Now the house will stay packed because the falcons will win Watch haters!He is paying the price!

By This just in

May 15, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Oliver Spicer of the crime lab, in agreement with beseiged cops and prosecutors in South Florida, already weary of media inquiries over barely visible flakes of dark particulate, glanced at the water bottle and declared, without chemical tests, that no drugs were found.

I mean come on, why keep handling a hot potato when it’s not going to yield even a misdemeanor charge. Just give the media some story and make it go away.

By Vick Antiseptic

May 15, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

As poorly written as many of the posts on here praising Vick are, you would think it was Vick himself posting unintelligible rants on here under pseudonyms to defend himself.

Michael Vick - The Failure of the Virginia Public School System

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

THIS JUST IN - Documentation? Don’t think so. Spicer and the DA are obvious Vick apologists with their agenda being to get MV off the hook with no regard to their professional credibility or livelihood. They so believe in this cause that they provide documentation to the effect that they have concluded via scientific analysis and review of the evidence that MV is innocent. That sounds fully plausible.

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

The more I think about it, the more likely the above scenario falls into line. An ADA with career ambitions of becoming an elected official shuns the spotlight so as to not garner any of name recognition and free publicity that comes with prosecuting a highly publicized case. All because she likes to go to Falcon games in a city she doesn’t live in. I do admire her convictions as an apologist.

By Falcon is really dense

May 15, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Cops every day find tiny flakes of dark particulate on persons they come in contact with. They do not charge them with misdemeanor possession most of the time. The system is clogged, they are busy with bigger things, etc. They can’t win in a “media case” like Vick’s. Are they going to prosecute him for something most street cops let walk? Are they going to want to spend weeks talking about such a lame case with out-of-town reporters? No. They make it go away. There’s nothing ethically wrong with it. It makes sense. I would do it in a heartbeat. But that doesn’t mean the TSA agent didn’t smell pot in the bottle. If you have a PDF of a lab report, post it. If not, shut up.

By What?

May 15, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

The ADA becomes a hero for prosecuting an out-of-town athlete for possessing barely a trace of pot? What points are to be gained there? None. Dummy.

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

I am dense, I am dumb - yet I am the only one who is using ACTUAL evidence and not supposition. The report is searchable on the net - I don’t feel compelled to find it for you if you are too lazy to search for yourself and feel more secure in conjecture where it is safe and comfortable.

By What - FREE TV TIME! FREE NAME RECOGNITION WITH CONSTITUENTS! Surely no value there - and I’m a “Dummy” what you are 5?

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Falcon is really dense - Charge with misdemeanor? No - With Violation and Fine? - everyday.

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

More information than you deserve for being lazy. Reports are not in PDF format but I am sure you can convert using Adobe.

http://www.lexisnexis.com/

By Falcon is stupid

May 15, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

It ain’t supposition, dude. A criminalist did fill out a report that stated no drugs were found. But no chemical analysis was done to make that determination. It was a purely visual “expert” examination, to get a pile of doo doo off law enforcement’s plate. By the way, if YOU are an ADA do YOU want your name in the news for prosecuting THAT case? This isn’t OJ afterall. Didn’t think so.

By Matthew At The SLC

May 15, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

When has Matt Fraud shown that he’s a good QB in this league against a top-flight defense which isn’t ranked 32nd against the past and was decimated by injuries (yes, I’m talking about his “brilliant” performance against the undermanned Patriots)? He’s played poorly against the teams he’s faced which have front line, 1st teamers in the game during the regular season, and he even played poorly against the 3rd stringers the Eagles put out there.

Once again though, if he had a decent o-line and recievers, he might have played better, much like Vick.

See what I’m doing here? Turning the illogic on its head. I’m sure Schaub is a great guy and model citizen, although HE, unlike Vick, was actually CONVICTED of assault. But here’s the kicker: I only call him Matt Fraud, the Great White Hype, because of the illogical Falcons fans like QB Rating Guy. It because of fans like that that Schaub became the Great White Hype. His performance on the field never lived up to the love and the hype that idiot fans bestowed upon him, therefore, factually, he is a fraud. He may turn out to be Montana, he may turn out to be a terrible QB like Doug Johnson. More likely, he’ll turn out to be a Trent Dilfer or Jon Kitna, which is somewhere in between. But the fact remains: YOU people turned him into the Great White Hype with your insane love and adoration of a QB with mediocre stats and a 0.0 winning percentage.

I just call it the way it is. Calling him a fraud and the Great White Hope / Hype isn’t a reflection on Matt. It’s a reflection of the idiocy of the Falcons fans. Do you understand now, or do I need to explain it further?

By Ken Strickland

May 15, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Before Petrino accepted the job, he had to consider the following. (1)The OFF he would replace was the complete opposite in every respect to what he wanted.(2)He’d have to reconstruct possibly the smallest, and arguably the worst pass blocking OL’s in the NFL. (3)He would inherit a group of young, inexperienced WR’s that led the NFL in dropped passes. (4)He would also inherit a flawed, but dynamic QB who’s passing skills are below NFL standards.

Once he and his coaches identified the problems, they then had to identify the cause of those problems. As far as the poor passing OFF, he had to determine if Vick, the OL, or the WR’s were to blame. You know he also evaluated the existing OFF scheme, along with the former HC & OC. He obviously didn’t see Vick as the problem, as evidenced by his announcement immediately after his hiring that MVick was his starting QB. You know he didn’t blame the OL, since only 1 starter will be replaced. Retaining all or the WR’s proves he didn’t hold them wholly accountable. That leaves the scheme, the HC and his OC& DC. There’s a reason they were all dispatched with the greatest of urgency. However, he offered to retain the rest of the staff, except Alex Gibbs. If you can look at this with an unbiased eye, what does it tell you?

He obviously believes Vicks flaws can be either fixed or minimized. He believes better pass protection, WR improvement, a more involved passing OFF, installing an audible package, and dedicating considerably more practice time and attention to developing a passing OFF will make the difference. Since our RB’s will be involved in the passing OFF, Vick will always have 5 receiving options, for the 1st time in 3yrs. It’s going to take 2yrs minimum before this system is completely installed. Petrino’s system is designed to make the players better by dictating to the DEF, and forcing it to adjust to what our OFF is doing, not the other way around.

This team won 7gms last yr with a lot of broken parts. With the repairs Petrio and his staff are making, we’ll have a winning season, and will qualify for the playoffs. AND REMEMBER HATERS, BARING INJURY, OR SUSPENSION, MVICK WILL BE THE FALCONS STARTING QB NO MATTER WHAT YOU MIGHT SAY, THINK, FEEL, OR WISH. SHOW THAT YOU ARE EMOTIONALLY, INTELLECTUALLY AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING THAT REALITY. GOOOOOOOOO FALCONS!!!

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

I am progressing - Dense, Dumb, Stupid. Cool. The next one should be really hateful. This makes it all worth while.

In my final statement on this - dispute all you will the facts - There was no charge or ticket issued of any form. This makes him innocent. This is how the legal system works. Also, if the police and DA figured this was a BS case of negligible pot possession (and rightfully so) Why is there such moral outrage over this? Yes, I am aware that pot is an illegal substance - equally destructive crimes include stealing cable, Friday night poker games, Open Container, Jaywalking, DWI (Far Worse even if you are not caught you are breaking the law), etc. Save the venom for the Dog Fight case. I find it hard to believe that everyone of the MV Thug crowd is legally and ethically “pure” Unfortunately for Vick (or anyone else who is “suspected” of a crime) if no charges are filed and there is no evidence that suggest he was involved in this disgusting event - he will still be guilty of being a “Thug” and overall detriment to society. On a positive note for the Vick’s a thug party - If there are charges brought against anyone for the dog fighting case (if on the Vick property), I can’t believe that Vick escapes some sort of punishment from the league. As far as the OJ reference (how’d that work out politically for the prosecution?) This could have been dragged on up to the eve of trial and than dropped with all the benefits of publicity still in place. Load up. Remember in light of your criticism of Vick supporters, some of who m’s writing skills are truly horrific, to use your best grammar and sentence structure, which I haven’t in my extemporaneous rambling.

By Falcon smells bad

May 15, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

All I’ve said here is that no one has seen any chemical analysis of what was in that bottle because nobody analyzed it. You have not seen such a report, you have read stories by reporters reporting no drugs found (I know by visual inspection and motivated by desire to have aggravation removed.) Yes, he is innocent in that incident. I hope he is innocent of the dogfighting thing, too. We haven’t seen enough to know. I want Vick to thrive, because he gives the Falcons the best chance to win of any qb on the roster.

See, smelling bad, that’s not all that hateful is it?

By The haters is worth Two dead fly's

May 15, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Vick Antisptic - vick did not fail he makes 130 million. If they have that kind of failure let me in on it. You never need to bring up any thing about school look like you came out of bugtussell State.

By The haters is worth Two dead fly's

May 15, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Do you guys work on a real job. You set and type this bull $hit all day that is not worth two dead flys.

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

I must admit that with the mrs. out of town for several days I have looked and smelled better …..

By Falcon

May 15, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Well …. My opinion is a real job enables you to sit around often and still make some decent coin - so by my definition, yes I am working a real job. Thanks for your concern.

By The haters is worth Two dead fly's

May 15, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

U dont needz no skoolin as long as U getz PAID! Az long az U getz PAID like VICK U aint no failure no matta what!!! VICK iz DA MAN!!!!!

By Farsworth

May 15, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

I am sick and tired of being called white, whitey, onky, craker, and mayo! From now on when you refer to me, please say Caucasian-Irish-American…or CIA for short.

If you don’t like my style, I must be a racist! If I don’t like your style, I must be a rcist.

If I criticize you because you stink cuz you didn’t take a shower, I must be a r*cist.

If I don’t like you because you act like a fool, laugh like an idiot, have all the sense of a moron, and can’t put two sentences together, I must be a r*cist!

Ever hear the saying action speaks louder than words? Well….dummies… they were talking about all that stupid stuff you do. You don’t even have to open your mouth, you are already a dumb a* and have proven it by the things you DO. But if I observe you doing it and don’t like it and say something about it, I must be a r*cist!

So while your proving it, don’t expect me to like you. Don’t expect me to stick up for you. And don’t expect me to come and watch you play a GAME that you get paid millions of dollars for and receive the adulation of young kids for.

When you go do something stupid, it proves who you really are. Remember, action speaks louder than words.

A mistake is something that happens once in a great while. Being a dumb a* all the time just proves…well, your a dumb a*! I don’t want a dumb a* for a QB on MY football team. Do you?

By seriously?

May 15, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

I really cannot take it any longer. Here is the story on Mike Vick.

Vick is a thug. It is stupid to think that he has NO idea what is going with Ron Mexico, a fake water bottle (with or without weed in it, seriously though, what would he put it in that was SO important that he put up a verbal fight about having to throw it away), dipping out on Congress, flipping off the fans, and having a dog fighting ring out of a house HE owns whether he knew about it or not. He probably isnt guilty for ALL of these things, but he is surely guilty of some of them whether he is convicted or not.

The bottom line is that Vick is not a great guy. He atleast TRIES to say the right things but he has a below average work ethic and tends to find himself in trouble be it created by himself or those around him.

This would not be a problem for a corner or a linebacker. When it comes to the QB, the only player to touch the ball EVERY snap on offense, you REALLY need a guy with his head on straight. Offenses that work have SMART quarterbacks such as Manning, Brady, McNabb, and McNair.

For everyone who says we must trade Vick: WE CAN”T YOU MORONS!!! WE HAVE A CAP HIT OF AROUND 26 MILLING IF WE TRADE/CUT HIM. If we keep Shaub, he’s gone next year anyway so we dealt him to fix the problems we do have. Next year, we don’t take the cap hit NEARLY like we would this year so if we suck, we cut/trade him AND we will have a high pick to replace him at QB. So people, its not as simple as just cutting him.

P.S. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. Vick has amazing talent. He lacks maturity. IF he can get his @$$ in the film room and work on his skills as well as his mental game, he has the ability to be great. Until then, he is average at best.

By honest_abe

May 15, 2007 10:03 PM | Link to this

be careful what you wish for!

as critical as i’ve been of mike vick. this latest news has brought the sobering reality that joey harrington might just be our starting qb on opening day. and that my vick apologist and vick detractors is a very scary thought. damn, damn, damn! this is one of those instances i wish i had been wrong. bah!

By Larry

May 15, 2007 10:56 PM | Link to this

The prosecutor doesn’t seem to confident about there being charges filed against Vick.

The interview aired on 790 yesterday afternoon tells even more. There, Poindexter basically implied that there was very little chance they would prosecute Vick.

By See no Evil...you know the rest

May 15, 2007 11:44 PM | Link to this

It is amazing how some of you can tolerate the total lack of character that Vick has exercised time and time again. No one else could go out and represent their company..and time after time embarrass thier franchise and expect to remain employed. Vick can’t help it. It is in his nature. Money got Vick out of the hood…but can’t get the hood out of Vick.

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 2:53 AM | Link to this

Goddam Ken and Matthew why don’t you two sonsabitches go write yourselves a f******* novel about the night you had sex with Mike Vick,you have got to be two of the DUMBEST BA$TARDS on this blog,couple of high school drop outs trying to sound smart!!! stoopid sonsabitches

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 2:56 AM | Link to this

At least Joey Harrington can hit the f’n reciever in the f’n hands and not the feet!!!!!!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 2:58 AM | Link to this

And don’t come back with that i gotta degree sh!t,the only degree you have is in ypour arm pits,JAckass

By The haters is worth Two dead fly's

May 16, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

If the smith had this team now we would be in deep dodo. Blank is a good owner and we the real FANS thank you! T. Moore thinks and the clowns sports writers want to Be’s have been in melt down ever since Blank push mike on to the field. The haters Rednecks have been in melt down mode every since. They no nothing about management skill they just want MR. Blank ti be a hard @ss. Listening to these clown what got the Smith and the Falcons fu^k up for all the 40 years they were in control. He went to school a UGA and he listen to the UGA fan base in this state that is where he went wrong. This is a man that knows how to win. Life of Georgie or home Depot you do the math! The Falcons will win if he keep McKay close by!Thanks MR. Blank you have a heart and a mind !

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

What’s the matter JOEBRAVE, can’t handle anything with more than 2 sentences. Don’t sweat it bubba, it’s in your genes.

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

I thought the AJC had it’s own reporters Ken, they don’t need some ignorant inbred raving lunatic,writing a book on here!!! besides half of you mundane blunderings,cannot be understood by anyone at anytime….

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

And all you homophobes on here with your MV7 man crush,you ain’t gettin none from MIKE….. especially you KEN,maybe you and Matthew can hook up for drinks and a little pecker rubbin!!!!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

When someone comes up with Valid reasons for keeping THE EMBARRASSMENT CALLED VICK, on the team,other than his Albatross of a contract that happens to be choking the life out of the organization,then I will banter with you,but don’t lay it to coaching you can’t coach stupidity and stubbornness, which happens to be the only two traits MV7 has!!!!Suck it up Blank your the Idiot that thought you could buy yourself a come here boy!!!

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

It seems everyone has gotten so carried away with Vicks personal issues, there’s been no mention of Finneran’s recent setback. It appears Petrino and his staff knew he wouldn’t be ready to contribute. Drafting WR Robinson and DE Anderson, instead of his former players RB Bush and DT Okoye, shows me something about Pertino. He will not give personal friendships priority over team needs. Mora was just the opposite. He placed his friendships ahead of team needs.

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Hey DumbA$$ ever heard the term BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE,thats What MCKAY AND PETRINO drafted teh BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE!!!END OF STORY you have got to be REtarded boy!!!!!!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

And two daea fly’s Man just shut the hell up you don’t have a clue;If you had one it’s probably not worth much… MV7 is Overpaid,Overhyped,in Over his head and a complete JACKA$$ to boot so stop babbling like you know something,you don’t know s** A*******CLOWN!!!!

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Speak for yourself JOE, you’re the only one having trouble comprehending anything. However, it’s always a good sign if you can admit to it. Now, if we can just get you to tone down the anger and violent language. You know JOE, psychiatists say that your language and attitude are very often the product of emotional issues, and a limited vocabulary. Prove them wrong by actually saying something intelligent, OK JOE. EVERYONE ON THIS BLOG WILL BE WAITING, WITH GREAT ANTICIPATION, FOR YOUR 1ST INTELLIGENT UTTERANCE. GOOD LUCK JOE, WE’RE ALL BEHIND YOU.

By The Exorcist

May 16, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Mora was just the opposite. He placed his friendships ahead of team needs.

Oh, that’s right! Mike Vick is the ultimate “TEAM First!” type of player.

He never throws anyone under the proverbial bus, never blames others for HIS mistakes, always puts the public reputation of the TEAM before himself, heals the lame and the sick, blesses the little children, helps FALCONS fans with their home improvement projects and gently communes with the animals of the forest.

Oh, Praise Thy Holy Name ST. MICHAEL. We Listeners of FALCONS FOOTBALL on The People’s Station Now Kneel Before Your Glory and Mercy!

We Humbly Pray to You to Allow Us to Roll with You and for Some Free Money from Your Holy Generosity!!!

By season ticket holder

May 16, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

mike wont be charged because the prosecutor is fair and smart.

By ST. MICHAEL of VICK

May 16, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Yes! Yes!

Defend MY Holy Name agaist those ivory devils with badges, MY Sheep!

Forgive Arthur Blank for his lack of faith in ME, as he is but weak and mortal and imperfect. I forgive you, “Doubting Arthur.”

Bring ME your virgin daughters and sisters. Sacrifice your family dogs as part of your offerings to me. In return, I SHALL lead you the Promised Land you lost sheep so desperately seek.

You need only touch the hem of my #7 jersey, the most holy of numbers, and your afflictions shall be healed.

All of You, Kneel Before the Glory of MY Hip-Hop Magnificence as I bless each of you daily.

Always keep your faith in ME, and defend MY great and holy name with your sad, pathetic lives.

I love you all, MY Sheep.

By mikegadawg

May 16, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

HEEEELLLOOOO! Am I the only one that realizes that Vick is only here for another year? (if he makes it that long) BROHM is our future QB. Patrino influenced him to stay at Louisville for one more year. He knew that would be enough time for Vick to hang himself with all the new rope (ability to call audibles) he has been given. I mean who eles would be a better fit for a coaches scheme then a QB that has excelled under it? Afterall, last i checked, 70% completion rate (BROHM’s completion rate last year)is waaaaaaaaaaay much mo betta then Vick’s 50%. You heard it here first! This time next year, the Falcons will have another top ten pick and will trade up to a top three, maybe even #1, to get BROHM. No brainer here folks.

By What is the deal!

May 16, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

What is the deal with all the Vick appologist’s and all of their excuses? Why not just just sit there and take the justified negative remarks. Once MV actually comes out and does perform like all you MV appologist say that he will THEN and only then will you have any merit. Until then, you sound like a bunch of toddlers that have had your lollipop taken away. Until then, sit down, shut up, and PLEASE STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE BOY!

By #1 FalconFan

May 16, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

good post mike. that along with the $25+ million salary cap “issue” we have this year that wont be here next year is a good enough reason as any to get us a playoff QB not a playoff RB that can throw 70 yards deep and 5 yards from the reciever.

By austin bailey

May 16, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Isn’titn extremely interesting that all the info involved in Vicks dog case is “Alleged” or everything involves “un named sources”. Can someone on the AJC staff please please respond to me and tell me why you guys hate Vickso much. I can’t play the race card becasue it seems some brothers are trying to protect their jobs. I can understand the white guys who want a traditional QB for the Falcons. It’s just rediculous. The media has become so dramatic it’s a joke. Can you guys please print some facts about this case. Oh wait the only fact is that Vick own the property that is the only fact.

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

THE EXORCIST, please go to the top of this page, and read the title of this blog. You will find it says, “SOME FINAL MINICAMP THOUGHT”. Since Finneran was injured during minicamp, I thought I’d comment on it. I also wanted to direct everyones attention back to the subject at hand.

How obsessed must you be to turn an observation about Petrino and his staff, and a comment about an injured player, into a mindless tirade about Vick? IN YOUR NEXT POST, I WANT YOU TO TELL EVERYONE HOW YOUR ATTITUDE AND COMMENTS ABOUT VICK ARE GOING TO PREVENT HIM FROM BEING THE ATLANTA FALCONS STARTING QB THIS FALL? IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK, FEEL, OR WHAT DEGRADING NAME YOU CALL HIM, BARING INJURY OR SUSPENSION, HE WILL BE THE STARTER, PERIOD. If you, and people that think like you, can’t grasp that, YOU are the one with the problem. YOU deserve all of the anger, frustration and disappointment YOU feel, because it’s all self-created. ONLY A TOTAL AND COMPLETE FOOL WOULD ALLOW VICKS, OR ANY OTHER SPORTS FIGURES, PERSONAL ISSUES TO BECOME THEIR ISSUES.

I’ll stick to discussing Atlanta Falcons football, and let Vick, and the powers that be deal with his personal issues. You should give it a try.

By Patrick

May 16, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

“The standard of socially responsible conduct for NFL employees will be higher. Club and league employees will be held to a higher standard than players. Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL will be subject to discipline, even if not criminal in nature.” from the NFL newsletter detailing the new conduct policy. Haters or apologists, ask yourself has Vick put himself in a situation that violates this statement. The judge is one man: Goodell.

By ST. MICHAEL of VICK

May 16, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Excellent Work, Ken Strickland, Excellent!

You have pleased ME with your devotion and your attack those lost, non-believers.

Even though you have obviously become offended for no mortally-understandable reason by others who have done nothing to mention you by name and that your repressed anger and issues have now boiled to the surface for all the unwashed to see, do not allow the non-believers to deter your righteous path. Simply continuing pleasing me as you now do.

Fear not, for I alone have the power to heal Finneran and shall….if you remain loyal…. I only heal the puppies. I do not harm them.

The Promised Land awaits. Is the FALCON NATION worthy of my blessings to travel there with me?

By Reddawg

May 16, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

YES! Patrick, a thousand times YES! Shoot, the double barrling of the fans was enough. Not to mention, it was HIS HOME CROWD!

By Ronaldo Mexico

May 16, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

It sounds like you bloods have caught another break. The DA in the Vick case is a fellow brutha. I can hear the sound of evidence being destroyed all the way down here in FL.

By This Just In

May 16, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

WHERE THERE IS SMOKE,…. THERE IS FIRE! Anyone within’ 100 yards of MV will suffocate from the thickness of the smoke. Everything we hear may notall be true but damn sura aint all false either. I smell somthing burning! OMG! IT’S MV’S CAREER! QUICK! Someone grab a race card!

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

PATRICK, your comments are well taken, and the answer to your question is NO. However, my position is it’s up to Goodell, the NFL, and the Falcons, to resolve the issue. Certainly not a bunch of individuals blowing up one blog after another with their BIASED narrowly focused feelings and opinions. And I use the term BIASED to represent both sides of the issue.

By Vick Heritage

May 16, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Marcus and Michael….. like brother like brother. Looks to me like it’s in there genes. Neither can help it. Layoff everyone, they were born that way. It is a birth defect. I’m sure MV can payoff,…. er…. uh… i mean provide severial phycologists to support this finding. It is always someone elses fault. Take responsability for your actions MV7 but then you would be behind bars for a minimum of 5 years. Can’t blame you for fighting this one bra.

By I DON'T CARE IF VICK RAN DOGFIGHTS

May 16, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

What concerns me is the FACT that Mike Vick can’t play the quarterback position in the NFL.

If you want an athlete, why not get the BEST there ever has been, a MAN (not a boy like Mike Vick) in his prime, Roman Sebrle (he runs a 4.1 40 yard dash!)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_%C5%A0ebrle

Mike Vick is a 2nd tier athlete, why settle for that? Roman Sebrle is faster, quicker, stronger, and, needless to say, much smarter than the boy Mike Vick could ever hope to be.

If you need to worship an athlete, worship Roman Sebrle, THE BEST, not the boy Vick, a 2nd tier athlete.

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

RONALD MEXICO, I heard those same sounds during the MSchaub felony assault arrest and subsequent blackout, and the lack of attention and information about the rape that occurred in PKerney’s house, right under his nose. If we follow your racist way of thinking, CRice is responsible for all of the lies, coverups and misrepresentations involving our president and vice president. SOMETIMES TRYING TO BE FUNNY DOESN’T SHOW HOW FUNNY YOU ARE, JUST HOW STUPID.

By austin bailey

May 16, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Did anyone notice Roddy white looks much leaner than last year. I can’t wait to see this pass attack unleashed

By Patrick

May 16, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Ken S. My point is that we can have an opinion either way, but the only person that will decide is the comish. I worry about it in the same way as I worry about how we are going to fix our holes on defense. 3 rookie starters…wow. I am defiantly looking forward to see how the falcons can overcome their injuries and losses. In the same tone, if Vick is suspended I am upset because that defiantly does not bode well for our offense. I would like to see him as our QB for at least several more years.

By austin bailey

May 16, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

I think all of the receivers will benefit from having a guy like Joe Horn around. Teams will have to show this old man some respect if he burns them enough by putting their best db’s on him. With all the speed the Falcons have at WR mismatches will be created. Oh by the way did i mention Norwood/Dunn both catch well and oh yeah the pro bowl tight end. If the Falcons stay injury free from key positions this offens could be prolific

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

You wanted intelligent posting of comments,well here goes. Mike Vick is the 37th rated qb in the league,How in the blue hell do you merit him being the team savior,while being the next to last QB in the League?Moronic comments by street thugging BU!!sh!t artists hold no water,they’re simply a byproduct of one being Enamored with a farce Called VICK!!!!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

My Gosh!! not again he we go again,I would like to pick up the paper one time and not see MV7” stupid face!!! Somebody just incarcerate this dumb sumbitch please,man enough is enough already…

He was there at the dogfights He knows it,The D.A. knows it and the Sheriff’s dept. knows it!!!BUST his @ss already!!!!Man Vick your are a goddam clown!!!!!!

By JudasIscariat

May 16, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

The only question that I have is why the $hit didnt the Falcons draft Brady Quinn at quarterback when they KNOW they had a criminal in Mike Vick that they need to dispose of. How the heck will Vick ever be expendable if you dont have a reliable replacement to use in place of Vick. Schaub was our greatest insurance policy and Schaub is now at the helm for the Houston Texans. Shockley doesnt have any NFL experience and Joey Harrington has been a NFL bust and is only on the team to add the body count. Vick will be playing cards in jail when he gets convicted of dog-fighting. We really needed to draft a quarterback to fill in for the qb position when Vick vacates it in the not too distant future.

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Big play Ray should have tied MV7 to the frickin road and run his @ss over with the bus!!! Ignorant sumbitch!!!!

By ARTHUR BLANK SHOULD PLAY QB FOR THE FALCONS

May 16, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

Arthur Blank’s old a$$ could play the position better than Mike Vick. At least Blank is smart enough to be able to remember plays, read defenses, and audible.

Face it, even if he had nothing to do with running this dog fighting operation, the fact it was happening on property he owns is a testament to just how stupid the guy really is. Stupidity (Mike Vick) breeds more stupidity (dog fighting).

The question is: will MV7 jerseys continue to sell in the “urban neighborhoods” when Vick sits in prison for a few years?

Now that I think about it, Arthur Blank really isn’t that smart…

By YO_landa

May 16, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Now hold on.don’t nobody go arresting Mike befoe,I gets paid,that mufuka gave me dese herps an he gots to pay,I gets tired of callin hm but he keep ignoin me all de time,Michael yousa Ba$tArd you did dis to me mufuka an you gott pay!!!an also ou owe me fo dat pit what died in da firght da other nite,you say you pay me on friday well what damn friday you mean!!!!

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

PATRICK, sounds good to me. We both agree that the Falcons have more problems than just MVick. Petrino and his staff can’t fix all of those problems, especially in just 1 or 2 seasons. However, I believe those problems that can’t be fixed, can at least have their negative effects minimized.

Screen and swing passes will automatically raise a QB’s completion percentage. Having 5 receiving options on every play will help. Having good pass pretection and cutting down on sacks will also contribute. In 02, Vick’s 1st yr as a starter in DReeves’ power blocking system, he passed for over 2970yds. He was allowed to throw screens, swing passes to his RB’s, and audible. That was our 1st winning season since the 98 SB. We went to the 2nd rd of the playoffs that yr, giving the Packers their 1st ever home playoff loss. I see a repeat of that season with Vick passing for over 3000yds, and completing at least 60% of his passes. The only thing that will change that is a suspension, or an injury.

JUST FOR THE RECORD THE RECORD. IF VICK IS FOUND GUILTY OF PARTICIPATING IN DOG FIGHTING, HE SHOULD BE SUSPENDED BY GOODELL, AND PUNISHED BY AV AUTHORITIES. IF, AND UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, YOU HATERS NEED TO REDIRECT YOUR BIAS AND HATRED ON WHAT YOU SEE IN THE MIRROR. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Yolanda,you go girl,shouldn’t have slept with him tho…. I doubt you will get paid for your dog either!!!

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

WE ARE STILL WAITING JOE. WE DON’T REALLY EXPECT ANY IMPROVEMENT ON YOUR LIMITED VOCABULARY, BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO GET A GRIP EMOTIONALLY. JOE, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE TEAM ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT? IT’S MORE THAN A TV SERIES, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR CASE.

By Hunk Erdown

May 16, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Now Mike can finally help put an end to the accusations of Dog fighting. There are rumors that a video tape exists showing Mike knee deep in Dog Fight Night. Since he has never done such a thing, all he has to do is offer a million dollar reward for the “vicktitious tape”. Of course, no one will be able to come forward and Mike will be proven to be a “vicktim” and be “vicktorious”. Everbody wondering whether Mike’s story is “vicktion” or “non-vicktion” will be able to move along and get over this thing… Of course if there is a tape out there, we can all go back to the racism caused it thang.

By Pomposity

May 16, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

The redneck racists and the moronic defenders are bad enough but the real winner. Matt from SLC - you are a f’in blowhard. Everyone of your long winded posts are self serving. Oh, and your nicknames suck. I know YOUR self perceived knowledge of football and the other sports posts I have seen from you is fantastic, but your analysis is laughable and your statements are predominantly idiotic. I know you are really proud of your writing style, but this is lacking also.

By KEN STRICKLAND WORSHIPS MIKE VICK

May 16, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

You know what’s the most pathetic thing about Ken Strickland?

He worships a 2nd tier athlete like Mike Vick.

Worshiping Mike Vick is like being proud to drive a Chevrolet Malibu.

Sure, the Chevrolet Malibu is better than some Ford products, but there’s no reason to be “proud” of driving a Malibu, especially when there are Ferrari’s and Lamborghini’s on the road.

By Vick == Innocent, Pure-as-Snow Goodness

May 16, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

The question is: will MV7 jerseys continue to sell in the “urban neighborhoods” when Vick sits in prison for a few years?

Are you kidding? MV7* will have more “Street Cred” than ever once THE MAN [ ahem ] “wrongly” conVICK**ts him.

I can see the docudrama already…..

Coming Summer 2008: The FugitiVe - 2008

STARRING:

Michael Vick as DR. Richard Kimble & Cedric the Entertainer as U.S. Marshal Samuel J. Gerard

A SPIKE LEE Joint

By John

May 16, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Oh just to let you know, there is a reason Petrino brought Redman in right away. He coached him at THE Ville and is a very good QB. If Vick does not make it Redman will do just fine and be very successful in Petrino’s offense!

By Vick==Guilty, Black-as-Coal Evilness

May 16, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Coming Summer 2008: The Vickinator

STARRING:

Michael Vick as The Vickinator

and

Arthur Blank as Seth Conner

Featuring “Pitbull the Dog” as Jaws

Synopsis:

The Vickinator travels back in time to kill Seth Conner’s dog “Old Yeller” with Jaws (played by “Pitbull the Dog”) in the most disgusting dogfight ever filmed.

This film may not be suitable for Ken Strickland or other stupid Falcons fans

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

Let’s stop all of this bashing and talk Falcon football. Did anyone notice that ABryant, the DT recently sign off waivers, was waived? The minicamp report on him was positive. Looks like our coaching staff won’t be satisfied with anything but an upgrade. I still think Petrino is waiting to pick up someone released during training camp. Teams might keep a Rookie, or a FA that stands out during camp, like last yrs unsigned FA, TJackson. That usually means a quality vet will be cut. We sign that vet and solve our problem. It worked last yr with GJackson.

By KEN STRICKLAND IS SUNK

May 16, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

He’s blabbering about some ABryant guy, as if anyone gives a crap.

This means “MV7” is finished, and he nees some talking points to remain legitimate.

Ken, face it, your time is up.

Until the Falcons get a guy like Steve McNair, they are LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, I guess I’m a racist for wanting Steve McNair here in Atlanta that Mike Vick. Sorry.

By larry w.

May 16, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

I once posted regularly on these blogs before they became a haven for idiotic racists to spew their venom. I pretty much stay away from here now, but I would like to make one final comment. Reading some of these posts made me realize just how little we have advanced in race relations since the civil rights era. Sad and unfortunate statements made by whites toward blacks and blacks toward whites, all because the starting quarterback of the Falcons is a black man, suggests to me that our society is still a long, lomg way from where it needs to be in regards to the race issue. There was a time when bloggers voiced their displeasure with Vick because of football reasons, not all of this other personal nonsense that is being spewed now. I truly wonder if these folks are even football fans. I think they are racists (black and white) with an agenda that has nothing to do with football. I can respect a blogger who gives legitimate football reasons for either liking or disliking Vick. But when someone starts to talk about how Vick is being persecuted because he is black, or Vick is too stupid to run an NFL offense, then I can recognize quickly what the agenda is. I never really agreed with titothebear on anything, but at least he gave legitimate football reasons for not liking Vick, and I can respect that. Maybe one day, the AJC will return these blogs to a pay service, then I may consider coming back. In the mean time, Ken and Najeh and all others who just want to talk intelligent football, good luck. Maybe we will talk again someday.

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

Remember HATERS, the same people that crucified christ, ended up worshiping him.

By Ronaldo Mexico

May 16, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this

so now Vick is Jesus? Strickland, your brain is mush. Too much crack in the womb syndrome.

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this

Ken wait a minute,up until know it’s all been fun and games with me,But when you cross over the line my brother,it’s time to scold your ignorant stupid a@@,you call me a racist no I simply do not like Michael Vick he is what he is and no one NO ONE will change him,but DON”T EVER liken Mike Vick to Jesus Christ,Christ was,is and always will be perfect,He is The Living Son of God almighty himself,He is not The second coming of Mike Vick,He is the only Son Of God,Mike Vick is a Thug a useless thug who can change his ways if he so wanted,FACT is He doesn’t want to change He is a Punk to the nth Degree….But In no wise is that hoodlum sumbitch gonna be worshiopped you IGNORANT BA$TARD!!!! got it get it GOOD!!!! F***!~!!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

And remember Ken you called me out first PECKERHEAD SUMBITCH!!!!~

By The haters is worth Two dead fly's

May 16, 2007 8:19 PM | Link to this

JoE BRAVE the hater . Factless Joe every bory is ignorant. B!tch on B!TCH on . VICK Will be our QB watch and see. Now please keep on in the melt down mode . There is nothing you can do BUT B!TCH! When you read the sports blogs you see the heart of man!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 8:37 PM | Link to this

Two dead fly’s you are about a f’n retarded sumbitch!!!!!!

By Ken Strickland

May 16, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

LARRY W, what’s up my friend. I wondered what had happened to you. There is a LARRY that posts, but with an entirely different mindset, to say the least. I understand how you feel, but I stay because I get to experience varied human emotions and perspectives. To see how different people react, overreact, interpret and misinterpret the same info. Some of the same people that call Vick dumb, post the same emotion filled comments over and over. They seem to operate from the premise that degrading Vick, and constantly expressing their hatred and disgust, will somehow get him removed as the Falcons QB. Can you understand the dynamics behind that type of reasoning, or lack thereof? Even if you stop posting, don’t stop reading. Occassionally let me know you’re still around.

I expected a negative response to my last post. First, I wasn’t referring to Vick, nor did I reference his name. I was referencing me, since so many of you HATERS mentioned me in you posts. When next season ends, all of you questioning me now, will bow down to my ultimate knowledge and faith in the team and its coaches. You clowns misinterpreted everything because you have that disease called, VICK ON THE BRAIN.

TELL ME JOEBRAVE, WHAT HAS ALL OF THE FOUL LANGUAGE AND ANGER DONE FOR YOU? DO ANY OF YOU VICK HATERS THINK YOUR COMMENTS WILL IN ANY WAY INFLUENCE VICK’S FUTURE, OR THE ULTIMATE DECISIONS TO BE MADE, REGARDING VICK? PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT YOU HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH? WHY DO YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO OPENLY EXPRESS YOUR SO MUCH IGNORANCE, HATRED, AND IN FAR TOO MANY CASES, RACISM. I would like an answer.

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this

Like I said Ken Mike Vick is a piece of CRAP and so are you!!!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 11:24 PM | Link to this

Joe knows a lot,Joe knows Mike Vick is a 4th string QB on any other NFL team,Joe knows I would rather have L.Tomlinson with the draft pick instead of Vick,joe knows A.Blank bought himself a water boy a black waterboy at that,and Joe knows some retards here don’t know SH!T!!!!!

By Vick's Middle Finger

May 16, 2007 11:25 PM | Link to this

GO ahead let’s hope Vick aint there this season. Yall redneck crackers thank Harington gonna win games. Falcons wont win no games without Vick. He aint the face of the franchise. He is the Falcons.

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this

Vick’s middle finger your just another dumbass that wants a piece of the Vick pie well guess what,your not going to get it!!!!!1Geesh will you guys stop trying to make this sumbitch into something he is not,And just for the record one man doe not make the team, son it takes eleven!!!!

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 11:41 PM | Link to this

ever notice how Vick rhymes with dick,I keep telling you Idiots on here that C******** ain’t no damn NFL QB< he is a scumbag,bottom line is your putting your faith in a future convicted felon,and former nfl player but QB no not now not ever!!!!!

By The Dean 21

May 16, 2007 11:43 PM | Link to this

Hey JOE-SCARED What’s your problem dude, why all the hostility? It seems you need a swift azz-whippin on how to behave on football blogs you old redneck you!

Why do you continue to post that trailer park garbage foul mouth snake venom on here! You are not bad through your keyboard man! Come public with your anger and your silly profound statements and watch how many foot prints hits your backside.

Now Ken is speaking only about the nature of this football team in Atlanta and your sorry azz continues to post about Mike Vick. Hey dumbass, VICK is RICH and you are NOT, get a grip, calm down and go beat your wife, maybe you will release some of that anger…IDIOT REDNECK from PECKERWOOD GA!!

By The Dean 21

May 16, 2007 11:51 PM | Link to this

What’s going on Ken? I totally agree that the Falcons should be paying attention to the release boards. I actually think A Bryant would be a solid pick up for the Birds. Another big body on the Dline with experience would help the rookies out. I’m also wondering what’s going on with A. Rossum? Clearly, it’s time to consider someone else with kick offs and punt returns. The kid out of Houston, Vincent Marshall should get a look.

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 11:52 PM | Link to this

I have now grown weary of debating the facts with you ignorant sumbitches,fact M.Vick is the Next to last rated QB in the entire NFL by damn you can’t change facts, Fact Vick does not know recievers hands are located in the chest region,He thinks the hands are in the shoes,Fact M.Jenkins is one hell of a reciever,fact so is Roddy Whit,Fact so is Joe Horn,Fact so is L.Robinson,and yet MV7 will continue to throw(no better yet chunk)passes at their feet,Fact MV7 looks like the kid that just stole Uncle Grady’s last watermelon from the patch and doesn’t want to get caught… Fact MV7 is only sorry He got caught…. there you wanted facts you got facts….now try to worm your way around them I’m quite sure you will,but facts are facts… Oh by the way MV& has how many Falcon records,I think S.Bartkowski still holds about3/4 of the passing marks in Falcons history and MV7 ain’t no Bartkowski by a long shot!!!!!!!!

By The Dean 21

May 16, 2007 11:59 PM | Link to this

JOE-SCARED, Are you really WHITE POWER? Same M/O, same b******, same mad love for one Mike Vick and of course, loves black people! You are comical dude, I bet you are one lonely a* man who has nothing better to do but sit on a computer and learn to spew cuss words at total strangers!! Why in the hell does this football blog attracks so many skin heads, racist piece of craps? Who gives a rat azz about MV7?

Stay on task idiot and talk about this team and your opinions other than Mike Vick for as thought of improvement! Can you do that with going into a melt down? Let’s see if you know any other of the Falcons players besides that black guy that your fingers keep typing about?

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 12:03 AM | Link to this

And dean 21 boy you ain’t big enough or bad enough so anytime sumbitch anytime!!!!!

By The Dean 21

May 17, 2007 12:04 AM | Link to this

By Ronaldo Mexico

May 16, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

It sounds like you bloods have caught another break. The DA in the Vick case is a fellow brutha. I can hear the sound of evidence being destroyed all the way down here in FL.

Another white man in love with MIKE VICK…First of all dude, be original and come up with your own handler and stop using alias by MV7. Sounds like you in love with him, again you sir have no information to post about this team which makes you a Vick Lover!

By Ken Strickland

May 17, 2007 12:06 AM | Link to this

JOEBRAVE, you keep directing your vulgarities and vile characterizations toward people you identify as Black. At the same time you’re trying to convince yourself, and anyone that will listen, that racism isn’t a motivating factor. You can lie and deny all you want, but you prove your motives, and lack of character, every time you open your mouth. Man, you are out of control, and you need to check yourself.

I’m still waiting for an intelligent reply to the questions I posed in my 9:58PM post. Any Vick HATER will do.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 12:09 AM | Link to this

Oh of course I do let’s see how about linebacker Demorrio Williams,a great linebacker,Grady Jackson Great line stuffer,and he will be back,Jerious Norwood super Rb,Love the J.Anderson pick on d-line,I believe I named all the recievers on a prior post,but back to linsbacker I want to go off on the great white hope one time Brooking aint sh!t either,piling on after the tackle Pu$$y!!!! how’s that Dean!!!! see I know my football and I know Ghetto trash!!!!!

By The Dean 21

May 17, 2007 12:11 AM | Link to this

By joebrave

May 16, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this

Ken wait a minute,up until know it’s all been fun and games with me,But when you cross over the line my brother,it’s time to scold your ignorant stupid a@@,you call me a racist no I simply do not like Michael Vick he is what he is and no one NO ONE will change him,but DON”T EVER liken Mike Vick to Jesus Christ,Christ was,is and always will be perfect,He is The Living Son of God almighty himself,He is not The second coming of Mike Vick,He is the only Son Of God,Mike Vick is a Thug a useless thug who can change his ways if he so wanted,FACT is He doesn’t want to change He is a Punk to the nth Degree….But In no wise is that hoodlum sumbitch gonna be worshiopped you IGNORANT BA$TARD!!!! got it get it GOOD!!!! F*!~!!

Yes, another one that cannot speak about the Falcons, fingers will only stupid remarks about Mike Vick. This is proof sir and if you don’t believe that, check out your post and see how many times you mention this MAN! By the way, you have the nerve to speak on religion when you yourself are using god’s name in vain…You are the only idiot that post the word’s g*******….Here is a another part of your scared comments-He was there at the dogfights He knows it,The D.A. knows it and the Sheriff’s dept. knows it!!!BUST his @ss already!!!!Man Vick your are a goddam clown!!!!!!

Seek help dude!

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 12:15 AM | Link to this

Anyhow what needs to ahppen is for someone to get Big Grady happy,with the new O-Line beef and Norwood The team should be Okay not great but okay!!!

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 12:19 AM | Link to this

Dean I will let you get back to your pecker rubbin with Ken I’m to tired to acknowledge your ignorance!!!!!

By The Dean 21

May 17, 2007 12:20 AM | Link to this

Big enough, bad enough for what man? Watch that boy stuff because I’m more man than you will ever be..Just look back at your posts and you will notice for yourself how big a coward you really are. You cannot get any points across because you are filled with rage,hate and anger. You are serial shooter waiting to happen. Your sick twisted love of Mike Vick has your panties in a wad and now you all you have is that old azz apple computer in your momma’s basement and you sit there daily and realize how much a failure you are. Quit drinking that Old Milwakee’s Best and try a COKE dude!

Oh that’s the soft drink not white powder.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 12:23 AM | Link to this

Like I said sir Jesus is perfect I’m not!!! And when MV7 is gone I’ll quit b1tching!!!

By The Dean 21

May 17, 2007 12:31 AM | Link to this

JOE-SCARED

You are hilarious, anybody can read an article on the Falcons and pretend they know about some of the players. By the way, D. Williams is injured right now, hopefully you knew that. I wonder how many Falcons games you actually attend? How many games have you watched? Do you consider yourself a FAN? Do you actually want to be a fan of this team because you surely hate the QB. You have that right, but make it only about his play on the field because trust me, with that coaching staff last year and some other players, it ws clear that only Vick received the blame. Just try to be more civil with your comments, I would hate to subpoena AJC for your IP address that is logged on their server. Ask TITO the F* and White Idiot Power why Law Enforcement still rules. So be very careful what you say because you can be found in that basement you Vick lover you! hehehe

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 12:31 AM | Link to this

Boy I sit in my split level in my office and I could probably buy two or three of you a week,And you don’t know what a man is!!!!! I wouldn’t connotate my atory like that and blame my own failures on someone else… you should get off the coke and I do mean the white stuff and check yopurself before you get in over your head son!!!!

By The Dean 21

May 17, 2007 12:34 AM | Link to this

JOEBRAVE, now I’m proud of you dude! You actully posted with using MV7 or Mick Vick in your comments. WOW, I knew you could do it. Now you can talk Football, hopefully all the anger is gone.

By The Dean 21

May 17, 2007 12:53 AM | Link to this

JOEBRAVE- NOW I WANT TO GIVE YOU CREDIT, SO my last post should have read…

You were able to post WITHOUT using MV7 or Mike Vick in it.

Then you had to go and mess it up with how you can buy someone, back to the old slave bullsh*t!!! Your kind only think you can buy your way out of things or buy people. Listen dude, come out of the basement, SLAVERY is OVER, no more buying servents to wait on you hand and foot. Sorry, you have to get off that lazy white azz and do it yourself, see now we have large stores like HOME DEPOT where you can do it, they can help!

Let us know when you are ready to talk about Football and this TEAM man!

By Ken Strickland

May 17, 2007 2:41 AM | Link to this

If, and it’s a big if, we can get past these off field issues, we’ll be a tough team to deal with. It’ll be fun to actually see a Falcon CB come to the line and lock onto a WR. It’ll also be fun to see our DEF do what DEF’s did to us under Mora/Knapp. For the 1st time DEF’s will have to stop the Falcons OFF, not just MVick.

After 3yrs of Mora/Knapp, DC’s will now have to worry about Norwood or Dunn being isolated on a LB and possibly going all the way. Man, I hope we’ll be able to put all of our weapons on the field this season. I hope MVick isn’t involved in this mess. If he’s involved, I want a message sent to everyone involved in dogfighting. You Vick HATERS don’t realize this is much bigger than MVick. It’s an industry, particularly in the south. I wish you Haters would stop turning every topic into a Vick bashing forum. You comments are mostly filled with racially insensitive hate filled comments. It’s uncivilized, and it’s a shame that you don’t realize it.

By The haters and lovers

May 17, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

Check out the hearts of man . Just read the blog. God please save us all we need you help!

By ST. MICHAEL of VICK

May 17, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Fear Not, My Lost Sheep, for I am hear to save all of you.

I forgive all of you who wish to crucify ME, for you know not what you do.

For I AM the healer of the puppies, the Savior of the Falcons and the brightest light in the skyline that is the A T L.

Bless You, My Sheep.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

I find love and perfection in Jesus, created in man’s own image, and then prove it with my temper tantrums delivered in single syllable low English - only some of which are complete thoughts. Don’t none of you mess with Jesus or I will get unglued you sumbitch. When pushed on football knowledge I deliver ridiculous statements that reveal why I need to spew trash - You see, I’m one dumb sumbitch. Also - I will kick your azz all you peckers because when I’m blogging I am a big fit wrecking machine. Everyone knows an 80K split level in Jackson county makes me rich beyond the wildest dreams of avarice. In real life I’m a pathetic weak minded little sheep. I gay bash because it is the best defense against anyone realizing I dress up in school girl outfits at home for my son. Baaaaa all yousumbitch. I’ll take on any ten of you in fantasy blog land. When I’m anonymous I’m a world shaker you peckerwoods. I’m one tough angry sumbitch and don’t you forget it or I’ll get my son’s yardstick and redden you azz like he does mine.

By mo

May 17, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

It’s funny, this witch hunt of Mike Vick.

First, there was this “marijuana in the water bottle” incident that produced no evidence of marijuana in the bottle. But everyone who are the Vick haters sees it as conventional wisdom that Mike Vick smokes weed.

Next, you have the dog-fighting incident, which is now bordering on being a comedy. It was a result of a drug bust of Vick’s cousin. You see some mal-nourished dogs, but people are now all up in arms that Vick is a dog-fighter.

Now the sheriff of Surrey County has already went on record that, unless there’s new evidence that shows Mike Vick was complicit in dog-fighting, he will not be charged. And that same sheriff will meet with the DA, who said that the investigation, for right now, only sees Mike Vick as the owner of the house.

So Don Banks of Sports Illustrated goes out and alleges that “Teammates” of Mike Vick told him that Mike likes fighting dogs. But none of that can be considered as evidence, because even if Don Banks named names (which he will not do), it will only be hearsay.

Oh, but it became a lead story- that hearsay.

And then you have this lady that claims that there’s some video out there that puts Mike Vick at a dog fight. LOL!

Let’s remember that if there was a video of Mike Vick at a dog fight, that video would have been in front of the DA and probably on Youtube waaayyyy before the drug bust (in which there was no evidence of drugs being sold at that residence.)

But after this drug bust, all of a sudden, there’s this video of Mike Vick at a dog fight. LOL!

And then this same lady said that this video MAY NOT exist.

Hilarious!!!

Oh, and the feds said that they are not a part of the investigation.

In other words, on Monday (or sometimes next week), you will see the indictments, if any. According to the comments of both the DA and the sheriff, though, this whole “Story” will fizzle real fast.

By Mike Vick

May 17, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Yo Arthur! Thanks using your money, power and influence to make all that evidence I’ve left behind to incriminate myself…..disppear….again…..just like you make all those sexual harassment lawsuits you find yourself facing just magically float away.

Now, you just need to pay off Commissioner Its-All-Goodell ‘cause I ain’t sure he is willing to put up with my [ expletive deleted ].

Cash On the Barrelhead, Dog!

Cash On the Barrelhead!

By Ken Strickland

May 17, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

MO, you’d better watch yourself. You are making waaaay too much sense for these HATERS. Common sense, logic, intelligent thought and FACTS, are no match for wishfull thinking and preconceived notions in the mind of a HATER. To them all that matters is what the media reports, what they BELIEVE, AND HOW INFORMATION, WHETHER FACTUAL OR NOT, MAKES THEM FEEL. Look at what Vick has done, been accused of, or suspected of doing, and then compare it to the extreme overreation of these HATERS.

Now compare Vicks situation, and the overaction to it, to GBush’s situation and the lack or a reaction. Bush is a draft dodger from TX that joined the AL Army reserves. He never attended a weekend meeting, still got paid, and received an honorable discharge. He, his brother and father misused their power and influence to destroy any remaining semblence of a democracy when he was SELECTED president. His lies, deception, and greed has gotten us involved in an unwinnable war that’s destroying thousands of lives, both physically and psychologically. My brother and his wife submitted their retirement papers last yr, and both were denied retirement because of a rule Bush got passed. They were both redeployed to Iraq, it was my brothers 5th deployment, and he was blown to pieces. We buried what was left of him last yr. Yet, you still call GBush Mr president, when he deserves to be called the names you’re calling Vick.

This is why I can’t get all worked up, like you HATERS, over anything a damn Falcon QB may or may not have done. How in hell can anyone think that MVick, and his indiscretions, are more embarrassing than GBush? Dog fighting is barbaric, yes, but so is human fighting, especially when it’s instigated by misrepresentation and lies, and motivated by greed. Our solders have about as many options as those dogs. GET A GRIP HATERS, AND PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE. LET VICK AND THE AUTHORITIES DEAL WITH HIS PROBLEMS. LET ALL OF US JUST STICK TO DISCUSSING FALCON FOOTBALL, AND LET THE HATE GO, PLEASE.

By The herd ESPN

May 17, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

The herd is only gossip lies and smear raido.

By CAPS are cool

May 17, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

When they are used, credibility drops 10 fold.

By ST. MICHAEL of VICK

May 17, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Excellent Work, Ken Strickland, Excellent!

You have pleased ME with your devotion and your attack those lost, non-believers. You ARE the MORTAL MASTER OF HATE. The pleases me.

Even though you have obviously become offended for no mortally-understandable reason by others who have done nothing to mention you by name and that your inner HATE , repressed anger and unresolved issues from your youth have now boiled to the surface for all the unwashed to see, do not allow the non-believers to deter your righteous path. Simply continuing pleasing me as you now do.

LET THAT HATE FOR THOSE WHO ATTACK ME, YOUR LOVING MASTER, FLOW THROUGH YOU, KEN STRICLAND! NEVER BEFORE HAVE I SEEN SUCH HATE AND LOATHING FOR HIS FELLOW MAN AS I SEE IN YOU, KEN STRICKLAND. A SPECIAL PLACE AWAITS YOU IN MY POSSE OF THE CHOSEN.

LAY DOWN YOUR LIFE IN HONOR ME WHO LOVES YOU SO, KEN STRICLAND.

By Vick IS Atlanta

May 17, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

What is wrong with you people? Michael Vick IS Atlanta. Michael Vick is a talented, skilled, special human being with a supberb ability to communicate and he as EARNED the right to use his talents to amaze us all while wearing the red, white and black uniform of our city’s most-beloved instituion……… THE VARSITY !

Nobody can bring you your Frosted Orange faster! Nobody!!!!

By Falcons Fan

May 17, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

The toilet is going to flush on this case real quick if this investigator doesn’t come up with a video. This is the whole “Weapons of Mass Destruction” claim. What kind of investigator goes to the media during an investigation period, much less to make claims about some evidence that may not even exist? This investigator has only been called in as a witness on one other case of which the defendant was not convicted. When all is said and done, we’re going to be left with a lot of anonymous sources and not a whole lot of facts. Sorry haters, better luck next time. If there is a video, then Vick will go down. If there isn’t, this case goes out the window.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

To whomever imitated me your not funny not funny at all,but perhaps you et your kicks out of not being yourself!!! Everyone here knows that wasn’t me you little Ba$tard,But if you’d like to meet the real joe brave I can arrange it!!! By the way Ken you found a common meeting ground with me I do not agree with G.Bush either his policies are getting Innocent American soldiers killed in A useless conflict that knows no end!!! I am a former Navy vet,from Desert storm 1 and I am truly sorry for your loss,and the loss of another Brave American!!!

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

Although D-line seems to be a concern is concerns me less knowing the corners will be coached up this year maybe Emmitt will finally be able to turn these guys loose and let them play and HIT some people…

By josh

May 17, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

hey yall!! been a falcons fan for 15 years. This is the first and last time i’ll read this blog. Too much drama and hatred in this thing. Back to D.O.B and the Braves blogs. Ya’ll scare me….Go Shockley!!!

By Josh

May 17, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

hey yall!! been a falcons fan for 15 years. This is the first and last time i’ll read this blog. Too much drama and hatred in this thing. Back to D.O.B and the Braves blogs. Ya’ll scare me….Go Shockley!!!

By JudasIscariat

May 17, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

THE VICK WITCH HUNT MUST STOP. Those IGNORANT ANAL MONKEYS who keep bashing Vick: I have one news flash for you. What will you say if Vick guides the Falcons to a superbowl Vick-tory no less this upcoming season. Will you continue to HATE on Vick or are doing it simply because the mans skin color is black.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

And while I do not like M.V. as an NFL QB you are right we are stuck with him for the time being,Here’s hoping Petrino can straighten him out I’d like nothing more than a super bowl banner in the Dome… As far as my feelings you don’t know me I get so tired of People classifying themselves as anything other than American,I truly get disgusted at the phrase African-American,were you born in Africa,my guess is no,Africans are Africans unless they renounce their nationality and become American citizens,these are the things that PI$$ me off,If your born here then My Friend and Brother your an American,some here classify me a racist well a bit of 411 for you,My best friend in this world is if you want to classify him a black American but he is an American we eat at each others homes we go fishing together and on occasion we party together,when the ignorance of classification ceases then I will quit b***,you are not Inferior to me nor am I superior to you we are Equal and American,It’s this Other B.S. that turns my key hence pushes my buttons……

By Ken Strickland

May 17, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

JOEBRAVE, I’m a Viet Nam vet. I lost my 2 closest friends in that war. I’ve been hit hard emotionally by war. If the people that post their emotional comments would redirect those emotions toward our government, we could possibly save a lot of lives.

MVick is one of many very talented athletes that’s been thrust into a situation, and given responsibilities, he’s ill-equipped to handle. Instead of hating him, we should feel sorry for him. There have been many wealthy entertainers and athletes that have self-destructed because they were over their heads. Does anyone remember Freddie Prinze, or Anna Nicole Smith.

Now, can we start talking Falcon football?

By BOTTOM LINE: VICK IS A HORRIBLE QB

May 17, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

I’m not “hatin’ on tha brutha”.

It’s a cold hard fact that Mike Vick isn’t “cut out” to be a quarterback in the National Football League.

Running and jumping doesn’t make one a quarterback in the National Football League.

The ability to read defenses and make good, quick decisions, along with an accurate and adequately strong enough throwing arm, and the ability to put a “touch” on the ball makes one a quarterback in the NFL.

A quarterback in the NFL shouldn’t run with the ball any more than Steve Young, or any less than Peyton Manning.

By Hating VIck is For EVERYONE

May 17, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

You don’t have to be a racist to hate VICK. THere is a LAUNDRY LIST of reasons to HATE a selfish, self-centered, egotistical jock like VICK before you even get around to demographics.

Why HATE all the VICKERY?

• Next-to-worst QB in NFL (backups included)
• Speaks poorly of his coaches
• Speaks poorly of his sponsors
• Speaks poorly (very)
• Embarassment for City of Atlanta
• NFL isn’t the T-E-A-M Sport it used to be
• Won/loss record
• Sloppy Dresser
• Unflattering hairstyle
• Less-than-honest eyes
• Snubs Congress
• Call AirTran a liar
• Gives women herpes and admits he didn’t warn them because he “don’t like to talk about it”
• Shows his middle finger to women and children
• Vick looks even more selfish next to class-act players like Dunn and Brooking
• The other Falcons players work too hard to have it be for nothing due to an inadequate QB
• Vick is paid WAY more than WINNING QBs like McNabb, Brady or Vince Young
• Vick keeps doing dumb things
• Dan Reeves deserved better

……and that is just for starters.

Let us all hate on Vick, but don’t hate him for any superficial reason just because of his ancestors. That is just DUMB.

I’d rather go 1-15 with DJ Shockley, Vince Young or Donovan McNabb as my team’s QB than get a Super Bowl “Vick-tory” (As IF!) with Vick at the helm. Winning isnt’ everything if you have to lose your soul to do it.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

All being said I’m not at all thrilled with Brooking in the middle,however I love the idea of J Anderson terrorizing opposing QBs…..

By D.J. from UGA

May 17, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

couldn’t have said it better myself Hating VIck is For EVERYONE

By NASDAQ

May 17, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

“Hating Vick is for Everyone” It must be sad to be you LOL. There are really some losers on this blog. Do us all a favor and vanish….poof!

By Mace Windu

May 17, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

NASDAQ why don’t you and JudasIscariat and that ‘I’m the New Jerry Falwell’ Strickland character go kneel at each others altar? VINCE YOUNG IS DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO LONGHORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HATE ON HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Gumby

May 17, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

To the Vick Haters out there: Vick looks and acts like a thug. He is very intelligent, however, but until he learns to play the quarterback position like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, he will be looked upon as a dumb$ss qb who appears to have come from the planet of the apes.

By Ken Strickland

May 17, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

BOTTOM LINE, John Elway has more rushing yds, and attempts than any QB in NFL history. That didn’t stop him from being one of the top passing QB’s in NFL history as well. There is more than one way for a QB to be a winner and get into the HOF.

By Falcons Fan

May 17, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

None of those bullets above,whether true or not is worth HATING someone over. I feel sorry for you dude. Your life is really miserable to pay so much attention to someone else’s life and HATE them so much.

Does Michael Vick have a personal influence on your life? Did he cause you harm? Or is he just the QB of a mediocre football team?

Maybe it’s just me, but I have too many issues in my life that are actually important to put so much hate into something so trivial as an athlete who gets paid to entertain.

Really feel sorry for you. Wish I could help.

By VickTaterHaterMater

May 17, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

If people unleash their hate on someone who deserves it, like Vick, they won’t have any hate left to unleash on their children.
If you think fans are rough on Vick for his colossal stupidity HERE, just be glad he wasn’t drafted in New York or Philly. Recognize SUCKAZ!!!!!

By Truth Bringer

May 17, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Falcon Fan - Please get yo head out of yo azzzzz. If VICK gave yo ol lady the herps or AIDS or gonorrhea you’d be HATIN’ on his sorry azzzzz too!

By Falcons Fan

May 17, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

New York and Philly have real fans. Atlanta doesn’t. Recognize.

Atlanta:The city too busy to hate!!!!!

Hahahahahahahahaha

Should Be:Atlanta:The city too hateful to get busy.

By NASDAQ

May 17, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

“Mace Windu” why don’t you vanish as well? What is your purpose for being here you little pansy! Poof and you’re gone

By Falcons Fan

May 17, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Truth Bringer,

But he didn’t.

By Just the Facts Ken

May 17, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Elway = All time Leading Rusher by QB? Randall Cunningham? Steve Young? They played in the NFL.

By long time falcon

May 17, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

Ken, I have to disagree with your assessment of elway being a running QB. First of all he is not the career leader in rushing yards for a QB. Elway throughout his career had a uncanny ability to scramble around but he almost always threw the ball downfield instead of running. He was a good athlete and made some good runs especially in the 4th quarter and the game on the line. However, he really didn’t run as much as people think. I think most fans confuse elways scrambling ability with being a running QB. The difference between elway and vick is that elway threw it when he left the pocket and vick runs it.

ELway career rushing yds. 3407

16 years averaged- 213 yds. per season

That only comes out to about 13 yards per game.

By larry w.

May 17, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Ken…sorry to hear about your brother. That is both sad and unjust. I too am a Viet Nam vet. I also served my country in a very unpopular war. I also had a brother that served in Viet Nam in the Marine Corps. Fortunately, we both made it back in one piece. You and I are not only brothers of the Falcon Nation, we are also brothers in arms.

I miss talking Falcon football! There is so much to be excited about. A new coaching staff that knows what they are doing, a new pass rusher to compliment Abe, a new fullback with the reputation of opening holes for the running back, a new cornerback to replace Webster, JWill moving to the free safety position where he rightfully belongs. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. I have a really good feeling about this team. I believe that in Vicks, case, the old saying “what doesn’t kill you will only make you stronger” truly applies. I think he will come out of this controversy and have the best season of his career. Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood will be threats in the runnning and receiving game. How about that? Like I said, I miss talking football.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 10:08 PM | Link to this

A name to watch on the O-Line this year Frank Omiyale…the guy is gonna be a beast….

By Ken Strickland

May 17, 2007 10:16 PM | Link to this

LARRY W, thanks for the concern. That was the 1st time I’ve talked about losing my brother. HE SHOULD NOT HAVE DIED IN IRAQ. HE GAVE THIS COUNTRY 22YRS OF HIS LIFE, AND BUSH SENT HIM TO HIS DEATH. THE THING THAT HURTS MOST IS AFTER HIS 4TH DEPLOYMENT TO IRAQ, HE COMPLETELY TURNED HIS LIFE AROUND AND BECAME A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN. THE LAST THING HE SAID TO ME WAS HE DIDN’T FEEL HE WOULD MAKE IT BACK, AND THAT HE LOVED ME.

I have my own issues to deal with, I’m intelligent enough to let MVick deal with his. Nothing I do, feel, or say will change what happened, or bring my brother back. That’s why I try so hard to get people to stop obsessing on Vick, because I know the effects it can have on you emotionally. I want MVick and the Falcons to do what my brother did, turn everything around. I want this franchise to do what the braves did. Go from a team that with a losing legacy to one with a winning legacy. The beginning of that journey starts this season.

By Ken Strickland

May 17, 2007 10:22 PM | Link to this

I got a little emotional and forgot something. I made a mistake on the Elway post. Randall Cunningham is the NFL’s career rushing leader among QB’s, and Elway is 2nd. The order is reversed on rushing attemps, sorry.

By bryan

May 17, 2007 10:25 PM | Link to this

Does anyone think the Falcons should try to go after paul oliver in the supplemental draft? Seeing as how Hall contract is going to be up and i don’t think we should break the bank for him.

By mr.macgoo

May 17, 2007 10:46 PM | Link to this

Syvelle Newton

Why in the world has know one picked him up yet! Talk about a fan favorite! a PLAYER THAT WILL DO WHAT EVER A COACH ASK! Move over Randel L! This guy can play qb rb flanker s and run back kicks! Who needs a dawg fighter when we can have a Game C**!

By The Dean 21

May 17, 2007 11:10 PM | Link to this

Ken, sorry to hear about your brother, I totally understand, I have a step-brother that’s actually doing his 2nd tour right now in Iraq. The political issues needs to be addressed because so many people are being lost to that stupid war. Looks like the other effect of it is high gas prices!

On to football, looks like Alan Rossum will be returning punts and kick offs. I surely hope they give someone else an opportunity. The defense concerns me because of the lack of experence at several positions.

JOEBRAVE: Welcome, it seems you do have some knowledge about the Falcons which is cool. Most people that rant and rave on here have no idea on the players.

We have to find some consistency on offense ans utilize our backs more including going down field more. The Bengals game and the Steelers game last year was a good example on how good this offense can be.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 11:34 PM | Link to this

Another name to watch is Adam Anderson,guy can punt a football!!!!led his college team with over 7800 punting yards,Koenen might be in trouble….

By Vick's Middle Finger

May 17, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this

Joe Brave you racist f* Vick iz da fizzle in the Falcons shadizzle. One thang nobody pointed out. Brotha Vick aint gotta take no sh* from Mr Blank. Mr Blank just needs to keep writin them checks and stay off my mans jock. Falcons aint nothin without Vick. All you have without Vick is a few worthless crackers and some washed up wanna be n* playin in an empty dome and bein blacked out. F** all you haters.

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 11:41 PM | Link to this

I’m from a different Era,I miss the days of William Andrews,Joe.L.Williams,Billy (white shoes) Johnson,Steve Bartkowski,Damn that Drew Pearson,Should have been the Birds in the 80 superbowl,cause Dallas didn’t do squat against the Eagles in the NC championship game,After we beat em soundly,earlier in the year….

By joebrave

May 17, 2007 11:47 PM | Link to this

Dang Dean and Ken,I was trying to carry on a civil convo with you guys but look who’s here,An IDIOT,go away little boy before you get your feelings hurt!!!!

By The Dean 21

May 18, 2007 12:05 AM | Link to this

JOEBRAVE, now you talking, those days were awesome, although we didn’t win much, we had some fun watching teams…well also some not so fun watching teams. Thatt William Andrews could run that ball and Steve was awesome when he had time to throw it.

It’s the real world and people have to vent about race issues at times. There is a forum for that, but this is not it guys. I hope to attempt to bring this blog back to only about FALCONS FOOTBALL!!

We should have a lot to discuss because mini camp is not that far away and there are still a lot of decisions that needs to be made. I’m sure Paul Oliver would be a fine pick-up but he was not outstanding last year at UGA. He is still raw, but could be on the practice squad getting better. If he was totally ready for the league, my opinion is he would have selected to come out early before the draft.

By Marketing Exec

May 18, 2007 12:12 AM | Link to this

FALCONS FOOTBALL - It’s THUG-A-LICIOUS !

By joebrave

May 18, 2007 12:17 AM | Link to this

I would love to see Albert Jenkins tutor Roddy White during mini camp… I believe he wass My favorite Falcon that guy was Smooth…….

By The Dean 21

May 18, 2007 12:18 AM | Link to this

I would like to see how Hue Jackson will improve our young and older receivers. I honestly think he will if they will just listen to him and his methods. I know that Chad guy iin Ohio is not too shabby!

I think it’s time for Roddy and Michael to have break-out seasons. They both have the potential, they just need to stay focus and work on improving each day.

I would like to know how much involvement Hue will have on the entire game plan, this is going to be different watching this offense because it’s designed to score points. We all know what happened in the Carolina (home) game.

Bobby Petrino’s brother, Paul seems to have a lot of coaching skills, so he should make a difference in our wide receivers also.

By joebrave

May 18, 2007 12:25 AM | Link to this

I just want to see wins ,dude a lot of em,these guys do have way to much talent to keep screwing up,Nice to see a coaching staff with a clue,and Hue will make a big difference if B.P. lets him coach Hue is a verry smart man….

By The Dean 21

May 18, 2007 12:31 AM | Link to this

Let’s face it guys, we can ill afford to have any more injuries. I’m thinking that Finneran will not be replaced at this time which is why that 3rd round pick was selected. No one is leaking any information concerning Shady Grady. I’m not sure is he done here or trying to settle his legal issues with the Falcons and get back to football. Has anyone heard if A. Bryant or S. Adams have been picked up by another team?

By The Dean 21

May 18, 2007 12:52 AM | Link to this

I totally agree! WINS will make all the bad press go away…No WINS will make the bad press worse!

This is a talented team JOEBRAVE, we just have to stay focused in the second half. Honestly even with suspect coaching, they have done well starting each of the last 3 seasons. It’s the second half where they have fell off the wagon like someone slipped something in their gatorade.

We shall see if this coaching staff can keep this team focused for an entire season. J. Abraham is the key on defense, this guy has to stay healthy!!!!

By show some love to the Falcons

May 18, 2007 7:51 AM | Link to this

Joe Brave that is what all Falcon fans want is wins. I love this team and this team will win Watch and see! We all have went to far talking about each other. I hope win will bring most of the fan back. We in Atlanta need a winner BAD!

By Ken Strickland

May 18, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

DEAN 21, I really appreciate your concern. Despite the lawsuit by GJackson, he’s under contract. The lawsuit’s an attempt to either void the contract, or force renegotiations. I don’t think the DC believes DT will be a problem. If we play a lot of man press coverage, our LB’s will be more involved in run DEF.

One thing is obvious, we will have better balance on both sides of the ball. Under Petrino’s OFF, DEF’s will have to worry about the speed of Dunn and Norwood on the outside. That was never a concern under Mora/Knapp. Imagine an OC having possibly the fastest, and smallest, trio of RB’s in the NFL(norwood, Griffin, Dunn), and running them exclusively inside the tackles. Petrino is going to do for the Falcons, what he did for Louisville. He has a lot of talent to work with, especially at the skill positions. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

By The Dean 21

May 18, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Which is why New Orleans was so effective and sucessful at using Bush. I am excited to see how that will unfold, you are right Ken, that could be an opposing DC’S nightmare.

How do you feel about the kicking game? If DT is not that big of a deal, then Grady may as well get ready for mini camp. I still hate to see all those experienced DT’S floating around out there. I know there is at least 4 that is available via free agency or trade.

You know Ken, the Falcons need that swagger back they showed under the first year of as Matthew calls him Little Jimmy Mora….

Do you see us picking up another experienced receiver?

By Ken Strickland

May 18, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

DEAN 21, I think Rossum will be retained because of his versatility. He returns both punts and kickoffs effectively, and he’s a decent backup DB. His return game fell off the last 2yrs because Mora/Knapp overused him on DEF. If you can recall, that’s when he started having those hamstring problems. The Chiefs recenly traded Donte Hall for the same reason. His loss of production, and hamstring problems, coinsided with his increased usage as a WR. There’s a reason there has never been a shortage of great RB’s in the NFL, but very few great, or very good, kick/punt returners.

The Falcons and the Chiefs have had the 2 best for a number of yrs. Last yr, the Bears rode the back of DHester to the SB. Now they want to make him a WR. Let’s see if he doesn’t become less effective returning punt/kicks.

By Ken Still Can't get the Facts straight

May 18, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Elway is not the 2nd leading rusher amongst QB’s in NFL history. This was already provided to you. Steve Young. If you want to play the role of football guru - get your info right. Your commentary is consistently riddled with inaccuracy, this would not be so bad if you did not try to make up for lack of quality with quantity.

By Ken Your Killing Me

May 18, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Enough -Stop. Dante Hall’s most effective season as a return man coincided with the his career high in receptions. Stop the blathering. If you are going to try to make a point, do some research. Your commentary is awful.

By Ken Strickland

May 18, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Who ever you are, thanks for correcting my error. Cunningham has 4928yds, and Young has 4239yds. I looked right at it and still got it wrong. As for the DHall info, I stand by my statement. The effects of that season took its toll. Has he been the kick/punt returner he was before or during that season?

Your intent is obvious. Considering how often I post on these blogs, it took you a while to find an error. Now you imply that I’m to be discredited because of that error. Wow, I’ve never claimed infallibility. For someone that’s done so much research, exactly what have you offered, other than criticism? Ever heard of throwing stones and then hiding ones hands?

By austin bailey

May 18, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Once again: Goodell said that Vick is responsible for what goes on at a property in VA even though he lives in ATL. Patrick Kerney was in his home when a rape took place. The victim did say Kerney was innocent. Has anyone bothered to ask the people living in the house if Vick is involved in dog fighting. Vick has been drug through the mud when he’s obviously telling the truth that it was family memebers taking him him for granted. All of these media outlets saying they have proof and unamed sources. The talk of the suspension and mentioning Vick in the same sentece as pac man jones.Yeah Vick has hada bad off season but he has been in the league 7 years and this is the first time he’s had problems but now hes like all the rest. All of the hate spewed on this website. You people only make the city of ATL look bad especially when Charges are dismissed. I say again why was Kerney given a pass for having such a horrible crime taking place on his property while he’s home. Is it race issue?

By LIKE I SAID, STEVE YOUNG

May 18, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

If you run more than Steve Young, or less than, say, Peyton Manning, you’re not playing the quarterback position in the National Football League.

The FACT that Mike Vick has run more than any other quarterback in the National Football League (yards/game, attempts/game, etc.) is proof positive of his inability to play the position.

Steve Young was the ONLY person ever to lead a Super Bowl in both rushing and passing. Do you want to make the claim that Mike Vick is a better quarterback than Steve Young?

To paraphrase Lloyd Benson: “I knew Steve Young…Mike Vick, you’re no Steve Young.”

By Falcons Fan

May 18, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Atlanta:The city too busy to hate

By VICK: NOT EVEN AS GOOD AS JEFF GARCIA

May 18, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Not only is it laughable to believe Mike Vick could one day be comparable to Steve Young, but Mike Vick isn’t even comparable to Jeff Garcia.

Face it Falcons fans: Mike Vick is a bust in the National Football League, and the only people that refuse to see it do so because they have been blinded by Mike Vick’s color: he’s Black, and so are most of them.

There were 30+ better quarterbacks in the National Football League last year, why do you insist on hanging on to one of the worst?

Answer: because he’s a Blackman.

By Falcons Fan

May 18, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Maybe people like Mike Vick because he’s exciting to watch? Because he’s given hope to a franchise that had none? Because he’s won more games than he’s lost? Because he’s a 3 time Pro Bowler? Because he holds the only QB to ever rush for 1000 yards in a season? Because he’s the plays the game a different way than normal? Those don’t sound like the qualities of an NFL Bust to me.

The fact that you sum him up into one word, Blackman(which should actually be two words), is more of a projection of your own beliefs than a summary of others. Thanks for coming out though, have a great day of hating.

By FALCONS FAN DOESN'T KNOW FOOTBALL

May 18, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

“Falcons Fan” is the prime example of someone who watches football through the lens of professional wrestling.

*Exciting to watch - Excitement doesn’t win games. The object of the sport of football is to “win BABY” (to quote Al Davis). Excitement is the object of such entertainment as professional wrestling.

*Given hope to a franchise that had none - The Falcons won an NFC Championship a few years ago. There USED to be hope, now there is none.

*Won more games than he’s lost - Not lately!

*3 time Pro-Bowler - Once again, if you consider the Pro Bowl some sort of achievement, you have fallen into the trap of entertainment over sport.

*1,000 yard rusher as a QB - That’s not the sign of a good quarterback. That’s the sign of a good running back. There’s a difference, especially in the NFL.

*Plays the game a different way than normal - Exactly. He’s a novelty. Something more common with entertainment (i.e. WWE) than with sport.

As for “Blackman”, it’s a take on what I’ve heard people call Vick - “Superman”. He’s not all that “super”. Vick is a world-class 2nd tier athlete. That’s right. By NO MEANS is he a 1st class athlete, for example compare Vick to participants in the European Championship Heptathlon this year. In the 60 m sprint, the slowest was Aleksy Drosdov, from Russia. He ran it with a time of 7.19, which would be about a 4.3 time for the 40 yard dash. What does Mike Vick run the 40 in?

Point proven.

By dap

May 18, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

I am sick of hearing about Vick. I am sick of the image that he brings to the Falcons. I am sick of the confused look on his face on every 3rd down. I am sick of having one of worst passers in the NFL.

Blank, the Vick experiment is over

By Falcons Fan

May 18, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

“Excitement doesn’t win games”-Neither do the Falcons, and neither does Al Davis

“There USED to be hope”-Is that why the Falcons have NEVER had back to back winning season? Vick’s fault right?

“Not lately”-Vick has only had one losing season in his entire life of playing football. Way to sum an entire career up into one season. Just curious as to why no other NFL teams picked up Jim Mora as a head coach this year too, and why Greg Knapp is coaching the minor league Raiders. Just curious.

“if you consider the Pro Bowl some sort of achievement, you have fallen into the trap of entertainment over sport”-Yes being voted one of the best 3 players at your positions by players, coaches, and fans alike is an achievement.

“1,000 yard rusher as a QB - That’s not the sign of a good quarterback”-Regardless of your opinion, that record stands in the NFL Hall of Fame. Something you may not once again consider an achievement.

“He’s a novelty”-A career winning record, Several Hall of Fame records, 3 Pro Bowls, and sold out stadiums suggest otherwise.

I’m not sure what point you have proven to compare a track runner to a football player, but just to entertain you, Mike Vick is officially on record at running a 4.3 second 40 yard dash. That actually would qualify him to compete in a world class competition in a sport that he doesn’t even participate in. Even the haters agree that Vick is a world class athlete, whether they think he is a QB or not.

Now lets flip the tables and give ol’ Alesky Drosdov the football in a live game situation. Anybody want to guess what happens there? You’re comparing apples to oranges, but to unprove your point. Vick is fast enough to run with world class track runners, yet these track runners could never step foot onto a football field.

Yawn… .

By larry w.

May 18, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

The football talk was really going good for a while there. I kinda had a feeling it wouldn’t last long. Unfortunately I was right. The urge to dump on Vick is just too great for some I guess.

The Dean 21…I know your question wasn’t directed to me, but if I may interject my opinion on our WR situation, I think it is very likely that the Falcons will have their eye on the waiver wire to see what WRs come available. But if Jenkins and White really impress during training camp and the preseason, I believe they will have the edge on whoever may come in after June 1st. After all they are both young and talented and both first round picks. I wouldn’t give up on Roddy just yet.

By GoldenVulture

May 18, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Vick should get kicked off the Falcons having his illegal 70-dog dog-fighting ring. He is a distraction to the team. I read in a recent blog that he would be better served working in red and white working at the VARSITY. Vick would be great as a pancake flipper at Waffle House or some pancake house. Vick is unequipped as qb of the Falcons. Vicks lifetime qb rating is about 59.5 which is mediocre at best. Vicks IQ is about -190. VICK WILL NEVER LEARN THE QB POSITION AND HE AND HIS BROTHER MARCUS WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE BRUSHES WITH THE LAW UNTIL THEY ARE INCARCERATED.

By Non-Vicktory

May 18, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Okay, people say we shouldn’t care about how Vick behaves. However, we as fans, do pay Vick. That $130 million comes out of our pockets. So how does he repay us:

-Flips us off after he loses a critical game.

-Thinks we’re stupid enough to buy the It was jewelry story.

-Has to be someway involved in the Dog fighting. After all, the dogs were being bred under HIS kennel license.

My guess about Vick is that the gold in his water bottle must have some kryptonite effect on his brain. Maybe that’s why he was trying to shield it in the secret compartment.

By Falcons Fan

May 18, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Here’s also how he repays you:

-Lands the Falcons prime-time and Monday night games on national television

-Sells out the dome EVERY sunday, creating a game day experience never before seen in Atlanta

-Makes up for the lack of good coaching, receiving, defense and blocking the best he can.

-Has never been conviceted, charged or even arrested for a crime.

-Provides a lopsided measure of wins/losses when he plays vs. when he doesn’t

-Has won more games than he lost

-Will be the winningest QB in franchise history when all is said and done

-Has represented Atlanta in 3 Pro-Bowl appearances

-Has taken Atlanta as far as the NFC Championship game

-Endures possibly the worst fan base in the entire NFL week after week, year after year

I’d also just like to note that having a valid and current dog breeding license is not a crime. In fact, it’s perfectly legit. Where is this smoking gun of a video tape anyways? In fact, has anyone been charged with a crime yet?

What kind of investigator runs her evidence through the media before she runs it through the prosecutor? One who knows that this case is going nowhere fast, and wants to get the spot light while she can. She runs her accusations through the media, because her case against Vick will have no teeth in a court of law.

By Falcons Fan

May 18, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

“Your honor, We’d like to call “Big Play” Ray Buchannon to the stand.”

By larry w.

May 18, 2007 7:24 PM | Link to this

Falcons Fan…I gotta say, that is pretty funny!

By austin bailey

May 18, 2007 10:00 PM | Link to this

Right on Falcons Fan very well put good factual information. Or did you get those facts from an unnamed source?

By Mike

May 18, 2007 11:45 PM | Link to this

Vick is so great here is an interesting stat… lifetime against teams with more than 10 wins in a season a whopping 5-19-1. His first full season as qb the only reg season win the Falcons had against a 10 win or better team was with the pitiful Doug Johnson as qb against the Giants. Five wins in 25 tries against 10 win or better teams… not a hall of famer to me. Highlight wins of his career.. Carolina after the injury on their run to the suberbowl… and th Denver game on their way to the NFC championship game. The win at Lambeau in the playoffs many argue, but a blocked punt, and a def TD spotted the Falcons with an early 14-0 lead. Was not Vick, he actually looked bad in that game. What is sad is over that span one of the few qb’s that has played worse than him is his back up. Time to get DJ ready for the NFL.

By Mike

May 18, 2007 11:53 PM | Link to this

oh…by the way…against 10 win or better teams… Vick is 0-10 over the last two seasons.

By Mike

May 19, 2007 12:07 AM | Link to this

06 incompletions…21 dropped passes that is alot….but Vick had 3 times as many poor throws…yes 63 of his incompletions were not because of his recievers, or good defense…just a poorly thrown ball. Over his career looking at the stats it is pretty consistent…3-4 times the poorly thrown balls to dropped passes. These are real stats people. With out a qb that can throw the ball your team is one dimensional…and unfortunately for Vick and the Falcons it takes balance to be successful in the NFL.

By DJ Shockley

May 19, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Will never start 5 games in his career. College Rainbow passing doesn’t work in the NFL. Get over it - Vandy is not on the schedule … Oh that’s right I can’t use that one anymore - Kentucky is not on the schedule.

By Mike

May 19, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

6 years ago people would have thought the same thing about Brady…a 6th round pick out of Michigan who did little in his college career for anyone to think he would ever be a starter in the NFL…. 3 rings when people draw up comparisons to Brady, his name seems to be in the same sentence as Montana. Maybe DJ will never be a legit starter in the NFL… but with the possibility of Vick being gone for atleast part of the season, I do not think anyone should dismiss the possibility of DJ stepping up. We have all seen what Harrington can’t do.

By Shell

May 19, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Mike were did you get those poor throw stats? Did you just make them up? I went to every falcon home game and watched all the away games on tv. Vick had way more drops than poor throws last year. In one game Vick went 14 for 28 with 8 drops, 2 of the drops were sure touchdowns and the others would have been 3rd down conversions. You people…….

By Mike

May 19, 2007 11:19 PM | Link to this

Shell so you went to a game.. first off I would like to know what game it was with 8 drops…considering as a team they had 21 last year. T.O. had 17 by himself, yet Romo was the 2nd most accurate passer in the NFC. Carr was the #1 most accurate in the NFL last year, yet his primary reciever dropped 11. Do your homework Shell and you will see. Go back and research the more interesting stat that I put up…Vick’s career record against teams with 10 or more wins in a season. Maybe I will repeat it…5-20-1 lifetime…0-10 in the last two years. Vick is exciting..however excitement does not win games. Vick can also throw the ball 70 yards down the field, but throwing long does no good if you cant get it in the hands of someone. Shell if you are going to try to debate what I post please back it up with facts, rather than your biased opinion.

By detroit game

May 20, 2007 12:35 AM | Link to this

i think the game he is refering to is the game against Detroit. I counted at the least 6 that game but hell it could have been more.

By To the trailer trash fans and sports writers

May 20, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

Jeff KKK Schultz pour out his venom on Vick. Now he is God . People who has worked with Vick and has come to know him says Vick is a good kid and has a good hearts . Jeff has not spent 24 hours with the man and (HE)say Vick is not a good kid. Jeff you are world class wrong. You never get the facts right. It is how YOU as a person feel Jeff and it is clear you don’t like mike. For mike it is a bad thing when sports writers hate you and can write what they want with no checks and balances on what they write or say. What do the facts say. What does the law say. Most of the sports writer are white and some are fair and some are hateful. Most don’t look like mike and they have a agenda to throw Vick and the Falcons under the bus. No matter what come out of this dog fighting thing Jeff and the Sports writers will not rest till he is out of here. But I tell you Vick will have a good year. The sports writer ESPN the herd will stay in melt down mode until Vick has been throw en him under the BUS !The sports writer will not rest til they destroy Vick in Atlanta! Foot ball facts Vick 32nd in passer rating. In the top 10 In the NFL in TD’s passes 20 for a fact. Two rushing TD’S . 1039 rushing yards. Has one of the lowest rating for getting his passes pick off. And is about 70% of the falcon offense. This is the facts. And looking at Vick from top to bottom he is not bad at all, Just the facts! But listening to the sports writers he is nothing as a player and nothing as a person. Vick has done some dumb things but by the law he is no criminal.Jeff Schultz Tell the truth what is your true agenda on Mike Vick The Falcons And Mr. Blank ? Tell us the Falcons Fans where your feeling are . Do you Jeff have this Falcons team best interest in mind as a team or to destroy It. Tell us Jeff How your heart feels.

By E.Hill

May 20, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

To the last comment, if you have been here on this blog long enough, you know, by know, that idots’true plan.

By Larry

May 20, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Jeff Schultz is an idiot. He says the empty seats at last year’s games are a reflection of the fans’ resentment of Vick. But what about the sold out Georgia Dome? What about the waiting list for season tickets? Does that show what the fans really think?

Schultz is right about one thing - Blank is a business man. That’s exactly why he will not get rid of Vick. Vick sells tickets. The day Vick leaves the Falcons will be the day Blank starts losing money.

By Giordano

May 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Whatever. I’ve been a Falcons fan for 20 years, but I refuse to support them any longer while Vick is on the team. He is an embarrassment on and off the field, and I want nothing to do with any team that employs him. I don’t want to watch him and I don’t want my kids watching him. 80% of the Falcon fans I know feel the same way. Get this guy outta here so we can start enjoying our team again.

By austin bailey

May 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

When Rep-Lanthos is finished dealing with Vick. I wish he or some other congressman would investigate some of these writers and analyst for unethical behavior. These types of articles are what draw people apart. It’s almost cult like the obvious hate they have for one guy. Since he isn’t going to be arrested for any wrong doing. Are you or going to personally apologize when this team is winning. Quit using your influence negatively to distort Vick’s perception to the world.

By LeonarGarrett

May 20, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

The Falcon need to worry about having a stong middle linebacker. No one in camp can fit that bill. Coach, we need help.

By long time falcon

May 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

One thing I agree with shultz about is hearing how mike is a good guy hanging around the wrong people. I to am sick of hearing that lame excuse. That can be used once or twice but now it’s time for vick to man up and admit his mistakes and take some blame. His story is similar to the little boy who cried wolf. At some point his cries will fall upon deaf ears and those ears will belong to arthur blank.

By Mike

May 20, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

Some of you people amaze me. A lot of you would rather lose and Have a guy without an ounce of character because of the color of his skin…rather than won with a guy that has class. If race is an issue, please beg Philly to give us McNabb.

By The Truth Comes Out

May 20, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Trailertrashfansandportswriters,You keep bringing up that Vick is the 32nd rated passer in the NFL last season. Do you think that is something to brag about? That stat sucks man which is exactly why the smart football fans want him gone. With every entry I read of your’s you show you are less intelligent than Vick and that is really bad dude LOL!

By To the trailer trash fans and sports writers

May 20, 2007 10:32 PM | Link to this

The truth will come out this shows how weak minded you are . I listed the good and the bad . When you add the all up he is not bad. He was ranked 32 in passing and still had 20 TD passes. That was better than than some in the top 10 in passing rating. That shows that stat is meanless. Win is and td passes is what count! clown

By joebrave

May 20, 2007 10:38 PM | Link to this

Hey trailer, Dude cmon a wide reciever is not born with hands on his feet!!! I’m not gonna hate on Vick he has some major issues,but what I will say is the passing offense has to improve,Middle linebacker has to improve and the cover guys have to play ball instead of modeling their uniforms for television!!!!

By A-ville Ranger

May 20, 2007 10:43 PM | Link to this

Reading some of these post regarding Vick the one thing missing from both sides is a concern for right and wrong.We are supposed to teach our four year olds,and yet most of you seem to completely miss the point that if MV is guilty of any complicity in fighting dogs,then that would make him a violent,sadistic felon.The people I’m most concerned about are children being raised by parents who apparently have no interest in justice or decency.

By believe in #7

May 20, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this

Feeling and facts and gossip. What is the right thing to have here? just the fact please and leave your feeling at home! Vick has said he has done some dumb thing and he is going to change his ways. I believe him and in the new coach and our owner. The hater will hate that is there job. Mike is not a criminal the law says so right now. The hater in the media are moving heaven and earth to find something that will stick on Vick but they will lose! Mike we are praying for you and the Falcon and owner. Mr. Blank thank for having a heart and a mind. Every since Mr. Blank pushed Vick on to the field the Rednecks and the haters have been in melt down mode. All of this is because Mr. Blank has a heart. And for the people who say MR. Blank is sucking up to Vick -NEWS FLASH Mr . Blank has enough money to burn up a wet Dog and you too. He don’t have to suck up to no one. But this is southern hate thang! You guy always want to show people who is in charge. This why he is worth million and you are a poornare!

By bath water in dekalb

May 20, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this

By a-ville Ranger did you say the same thing when bobby Cox beat his wife or when schuab got lock up? Same weight and mersure! Keep it real!

By A-ville Ranger

May 20, 2007 11:20 PM | Link to this

believe Is your life so empty that you need FAITH in a person you don’t know ? Anybody with an open mind and common sense can see that Vick is a person of low character.With peaple like mayor Franklin,congressman Johnson,as well as many worthy black athletes,why this obsession with this one unworthy person ?

By me

May 20, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this

bath water it’s locked up not lock up .Believe it’s their job not there job.Maybe some people would be better served spending more time teaching THEIR kids,and less time defending a low life.

By you

May 20, 2007 11:48 PM | Link to this

Byme Answer the Question?

By bath water in dekalb

May 21, 2007 12:00 AM | Link to this

by me and A-ville Ranger why then you dogging out a person you don’t know ? Hypocrite. How can the front yard talk about the back yard when it all is dirt. you are not all that and a bag of chips. you are no better. You think you are a legend in you own weak mind. you set here and bolivate over gossip and lies. None of us relly know about vick do we? We all read the same lies and gossip. were you there ?

By me

May 21, 2007 12:21 AM | Link to this

bath water I’m not bebating someone who can’t even wright basic english.

By Ken Strickland

May 21, 2007 12:28 AM | Link to this

Damn, when I left this blog, to attend a graduation, the conversation was about Falcon football. Apparently people of lesser intelligence turned it into a Vick bashing forum. Negative minded people with lesser intelligence have extreme difficultly focusing on the topic at hand, obviously. They regurgitate the same Vick obsessed garbage like their wish will be granted if they repeat it often enough.

Anyone taking that congressman seriously is a fool. Have you ever heard the term publicity hound, pun intended? You’d think he’d have enough to concern himself with in California. Like those electronic voting machines California purchased, for the last presidential election, and then rejected because they were found to be rigged by the manufacturer. Or the subtle attempt by certain republicans to change a part of the constitution to allow Arnold, the TERMINATOR, a foreign born citizen, to be able to run for president.

By K-9 Fighter

May 21, 2007 12:33 AM | Link to this

Vick is into DOGfighting??? With all those bikini-line wounds and sores he reportedly has, I would’ve thought Vick was much more involved in cockfighting instead.

By Ken Strickland

May 21, 2007 12:40 AM | Link to this

ME, it’s debating not bebating, and it’s write, not wright. If you’re living in a glass house, don’t throw stones.

By Sick of Vick

May 21, 2007 12:55 AM | Link to this

Q : How is Mike Vick like a box of raisins?

By A-Town Vet

May 21, 2007 7:27 AM | Link to this

Throughout all of this controversy we have heard in numerous reports that dog fighting is illegall in 48 of 50 states. Now i believe that actually dog fight is illegeal in GA however I do know that breeding a dog with the intentions of fighting and attending a dog fight is not illegal in GA. Immoral yes, illegal no. I would suggest everyone so concern with the health of all these dogs all of a sudden form a coalition to get the remaining two states to join the rest of the country and ban dog fighting. Hopefully that will keep the ignorance off of these blogs and we who enjoy the game of football can resume talking about it.

By show some love to the Falcons

May 21, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

What will Jordon Beck do this year. It is time for him to step it up!

By destin

May 21, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

Let’s keep things in perspective here — when you have animal rights groups, congressmen, media and others trying to make a name for themselves, they don’t care what the real truth is, they just want to bring down someone with a high profile to further their own agenda. Also, Goodell better watch his butt if he starts handing out suspensions like parking tickets. When you take away someones’s livelihood without valid proof of wrong-doing, the lawsuits will flow like a raging river. We are yet to see any evidence that directly links Vick to this matter, and until we do, let’s not ruin a young man’s career out of bitterness and spite. This is still America — where a man is innocent until proven guilty.

By chipdip

May 21, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

michael vick is really a good n****.

By Mountain Man

May 21, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

I don’t care who the Falcons bring in as receivers. If the quarterback can’t see them, they will be gone in a short time. Reminds me of old grandpa teaching his grandson to shoot his rifle. Each time the boy missed the target he would say something was wrong with what he was shooting at and wanted grandpa to get something else. The Falcond need to cut their losses and see if Houston will trade Shaub for Vick.

By The Truth Comes Out

May 21, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

I want Vick gone because he is a horrible quarterback! The fact that he portrays himself as a punk gangsta is just icing on the cake! The Falcons need a field general that can read a defense and throw cathable passes not a gangsta rappa wanna be that cant hit the broadside of a barn with touch on the ball. Open your eyes and mind people believe what you are seeing he sucks as an NFL quarterback and as a decent human being! HE NEEDS TO GO NOW SO THE HEALING CAN START! That is the truth. You know it, I know it the AJC writers know it, Falcons management knows it, the whole damn country knows it, Vick himself even knows it and it way past time for everyone to JUST ADMIT IT!

By Ken Strickland

May 21, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Jordan Beck. He’s the victim of a lack of depth at MLB. Who will be his backup off the bench if he starts? He’s the only player drafted or signed over the last 5-6yrs, other than Ed Hartwell, that plays MLB. If he and Brookings start, you run the risk of losing both to injury on any one play. Brookings is the obvious choice to play MLB since he has previous experience. The excellent play of OLB’s DWilliams and MBoley also makes Brookings a more viable option, especially since he’s lost a step or two.

By Ken Strickland

May 21, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

MOUNTAIN MAN, look at Matt Schaub’s overall passing stats, QB rating, overall performance and win/loss results. They are are all worse than Vicks. So, apparently Schaub can’t see the REC’s either. Will you please explain to everyone exactly what football related issue makes Schaub a better QB in your eyes.

By The haters are worth Two dead fly's

May 21, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Ken strickland the only thing that make him a better QB in Mountain man eyes are they are blue!

By The haters are worth Two dead fly's

May 21, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

The truth will come out You are right vick will have a very good year and hater can move on because they will have heart attack. You need to go get a appointment with a doctor because the I told you so is going to kill you from all the hate you have build up in side on vick . You will see he is a great QB. But please don’t die I need you to stay here so I can get all over your foolish @ss for being wrong watch and see MR. clown!

By A-Town Vet

May 21, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Ken, There is no football related reason Mountian Man (Mounting Man ????) could suggest make Matt better than Vick. Matt, in his limited play has displayed some good characteristics while on the football feild, however he has not had the opportunity to showcase his skills over a period of time. there is no realistic way to compare the two. Matt was drafted because he was a system quarterback for the sytem we had installed by knapp. With a young that knew the system, expensive veterens became expendable. That is the truth about Matt Schuab.

I truly do believe the Falcons will have a better year this year and if they don’t i will not be because of coaching or their inability to adjust to changes in the game. Jim Mora had great energy but that does not make you a good coach.

By The haters are worth Two dead fly's

May 21, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

I dont care what yall haters say I dont need me no good communication skill’z cause I got luv 4 Vick MR. clown!

By The haters are worth Two dead fly's

May 21, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

It it Time for some Bobby Ball In THE ATL. Can’t wait . We have a coach some body that understands the game . The offense will be fine . If the defense is on line this year . The rate of dead hater will be high in Atlanta and georgia. 11-5

By The haters are worth Two dead fly's

May 21, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

truth will come out I be knowing how to be communication cause In Georgia we be 48 in test scores. I don’t be needing to talk right cause white be right and hateing is what we be doing in georgia buba!

By truth will come out

May 21, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

truth will come out I be knowing how to be communication cause In Georgia we be 48 in test scores. I don’t be needing to talk right cause white be right and hateing is what we be doing in georgia buba!

By Non-Vicktory

May 21, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Mr Hater Hater:

At least dead flys don’t lie and try to play us for fools.

Sincerely, Mike A. Victum “Gold goes on the teef not in the bottle”

By UnHappyFan

May 21, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

“[i]Open your eyes and mind people believe what you are seeing he sucks as an NFL quarterback and as a decent human being! HE NEEDS TO GO”[/i]

You forgot Vick’s main enabler. The grown adult who feels the need to wear a custom suit to a football game. Art, we all got it, that you are indeed “rich” and indeed “the” boss! lol..

By truth will come out

May 21, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Unhappy fan grow up and stop hating. Vick is not going any where. Get you a ps3 and play qb as long as you want to. Your B!TCHING will not make vick leave!

By The Truth Comes Out

May 21, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

LOL! LOL! LOL! Keep spewing ignorance. LOL! LOL! LOL! The way you talk and the way you act I believe you ARE Vick! LOL! LOL! LOL!

By Vick = = Man-Child

May 21, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Did you all see that photo the AJC ran of Blank on the sideline consoling a pouting, sulking Vick on the sideline like a father might do with a “momma’s boy” of a son?

• Do you Jeff Laurie having to do that with Donvan McNabb?

• Do you see Jim Irsay having to do that with Peyton Manning?

• Do you see Bob Kraft having to do that with Tom Brady?

• Do you see Bud Adams having to do that with a rookie like Vince Young?

Uh,….no, you don’t. Only in the ATL do you see a sight so pathetic.

Gee, I guess pointing out Vick’s childish behavior, ON-FIELD behavior, must make me a racist. ( FYI: I am of Latin Descent. ) Ergo, go ahead and toss me some Hate and Blind Rage, Vick Apologists!

What does this have to do with Falcons Mini-Camp? Childishness, Immaturity and Selfish in on-field team leadership trickles down to the rest of the team.

By Mountain Man

May 21, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

I really don’t care what Schaub’s statistics are. He was tall enough to see the receivers and he did what the coach told him. The times he played, he was put in at a time when the other team knew he was going to throw and he didn’t have a chance. Think back to the time when the gangsta-rapper took himself out of the game and Schaub had to come in. Vick, to me, is a piece of crap that should find a full time career cleaning up pig pens or puppy mills. He is not a quarterback! He is a thug!

By UnhappyFan

May 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Your B!TCHING will not make vick leave!

Your comment is well taken, though I have no plans to attend any more Falcon games.

What upsets me most is not Vick, but a well known wealthy individual, a pillar of the community, so in love with money his morality goes out the window.

Do you really think Blank didn’t know about some of Vick’s off field character.. I don’t.

But these things work themselves out, so we shall all watch and see and maybe learn something…

By Ken Strickland

May 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

“HE WAS TALL ENOUGH TO SEE THE RECEIVERS AND HE DID WHAT THE COACH TOLD HIM.” His height obviously didn’t help his overall completion percentage, passer rating, decision making, INT/TD ratio, QB rating or won/loss record. (1)Did the coach tell him to throw an INT for every TD? (2)Did the coach tell him not to win a single gm? (3)Did the coach tell him to make certain his overall stats were worse than Vicks? (1)Did his coach tell him to team up with 2 friends, and get arrested and charged for assaulting a man outside of a night club?

I might be wrong MOUNTAIN MAN, but I don’t remember Vick recording any rap music. And if he did, what does that have to do with football. You seem to be big on stereotyping, and that’s the basic foundation for the various types to discrimination(sexual, religious, racial, national orgin, etc.) It’s one thing to dislike Vick as a QB. But when you start stereotyping him in ways that are totally nonfootball related, you are displaying issues of a personal nature. The kind of music a QB listens to, the way he dresses or talks, are nonfootball issues. All players on a team wear the same uniform. Music isn’t allowed on the field or sidelines, while the teams are playing.

When TBrady, PManning, or basically any other QB’s show emotion or disgust at a bad play or a loss, they’re considered passionate and involved. When Vick does it, he’s viewed as childish, shelfish and immature. That’s called a double standard, and it’s very prevalent when issues of discrimination are involved. MICHAEL VICK ISN’T THE ONLY ONE WITH PERSONAL PROBLEMS.

By Vick = = Man-Child

May 21, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

• When TBrady, PManning, or basically any other QB’s show emotion or disgust at a bad play or a loss, they’re considered passionate and involved.

Correct! However, when other NFL QBs show their emotion, particularly their sadness, disgust or anger with how a particular game goes, they don’t sulk and pout in the way Vick does. They certainly most certainly do NOT do it to the point Vick does (in front of the camera) that the team OWNER has to come over and kiss his rear and promise to buy him a snow cone after the game.

I notice you left out the direct naming of McNabb and Vince Young OUT of the example you cited in direct rebuttal to my earlier examples. Coincidence? Hmmmm… I think some of the other bloggers might disagree with that assessment.

• I might be wrong MOUNTAIN MAN, but I don’t remember Vick recording any rap music.

Yes, and there is probably a good reason for that, just like how, with the short-term exception of AirTran, Vick was not allowed to SPEAK in any of his previous (& now slowly dwindling) endorsement deals. Like it or not, CLEAR communication skills (calling audibles, directing teammates, interacting with officials) are an integral part of the pro QB position. In any type of sport or real-world business venture, a leader must be able to communicate in order to adequately LEAD.

Is it “stereotyping” to say those with poor communication skills AND dubious (at best) leadership skills are typically wind up failing as leaders?

I can live with that.

By Vick = = Man-Child

May 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Mr. Strickland:

Please don’t get me wrong. Even though I completely disagree with on many Falcons-related topics, particularly on those involving Mr. Vick, I tremendously respect and appreciate the well-thought, well-presented arguments and points you bring to this blog. I very much enjoy reading your points.

Thank You for the lively and entertaining debates, Ken. ( Yes, I really mean that. )

By Derek

May 21, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Here’s some final thoughts…

I’m getting sick of the AJC adding to the witch hunt on the Atlanta Falcons QB. Is he guilty? Who knows, but it’s a shame that a home town paper tries to run the town’s QB into the ground BEFORE he is even charged.

The AJC is becoming more and more of a joke everyday. And Steve, your last article, ya know the “envelope” one. COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.

By cp

May 21, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Ken I truly understand what you try to do on this board but Ive come to the realization that these people don’t care about anything related to facts. If it doesn’t make sense in their own minds then they could care less when someone else explains in details with facts about a situation. Ken I wish people like you and Najeah would join the others Falcons forum. They don’t allow all of this race crap and they actaully stick to the topic and talk about football. It might be time to let the AJC go as others have. I noticed that a lot of people who used to come on here and make great points stopped coming when all the bashing and race crap came into play.

By AJC sports player killer

May 21, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Ajc you ESPN fox yahoo SI are lynching Vick. The Guy has never been locked up. To sell a paper you and your kind have made Vick the whipping poll gossip since January. Most gossip lies and half truths. Very few facts. Jeff, Steve this is a witch now. you guy are hateful. you feed red meat to the haters and that all you guys care about. This is AJC Sport agenda. This over kill. you at AJC are just like dog fighting. never say any thing about leadership. You guys are pencil neck trug .you guys keep the glass fill with venom. all for the story. you SOB’s are worthless. the Hockey player that kill some body did not get cut up by the press like you are doing Vick!

By AJC sports player killer

May 21, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Ajc you ESPN fox yahoo SI are lynching Vick. The Guy has never been locked up. To sell a paper you and your kind have made Vick the whipping poll gossip since January. Most gossip lies and half truths. Very few facts. Jeff, Steve this is a witch now. you guy are hateful. you feed red meat to the haters and that all you guys care about. This is AJC Sport agenda. This over kill. you at AJC are just like dog fighting. never say any thing about leadership. You guys are pencil neck trug .you guys keep the glass fill with venom. all for the story. you SOB’s are worthless. the Hockey player that kill some body did not get cut up by the press like you are doing Vick!

By AJC sports player killer

May 21, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Ajc you ESPN fox yahoo SI are lynching Vick. The Guy has never been locked up. To sell a paper you and your kind have made Vick the whipping poll gossip since January. Most gossip lies and half truths. Very few facts. Jeff, Steve this is a witch now. you guy are hateful. you feed red meat to the haters and that all you guys care about. This is AJC Sport agenda. This over kill. you at AJC are just like dog fighting. never say any thing about leadership. You guys are pencil neck trug .you guys keep the glass fill with venom. all for the story. you SOB’s are worthless. the Hockey player that kill some body did not get cut up by the press like you are doing Vick!

By Ex-Chuck Smith Fan

May 21, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

Ex-Falcon and 790 The Zone’s Chuck Smith should be fired for the disgusting and barbaric comments on dog fighting he made on air today. He would like to go watch it, if it was legal. He sees nothing wrong with dog fighting. Maybe he’d like to watch puppies in a microwave too. Shame on you Chuck.

By Ken Strickland

May 21, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

CP, give me a list of the other sites and I will gladly join you. I hate to leave the few Falcon fans remaining on the AJC blogs, but I need a break from these ignorant VICK HATERS. They care nothing about the Falcons or Falcon fans.

By cp

May 21, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=7……thas a good one and http://www.realgm.com/boards/football/viewforum.php?f=9….. try those 2 out ken. i hoped i linked them right. they dont have all the racial and bashing. people make good points. they may disagree at times but it’s all about football none of the personal stuff.

By great article.

May 21, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this

EDITORS NOTE: This story concerning Michael Vick first appeared on BASN back on January 25th. Given the recent developments, BASN has chosen to re-run this story to reflect on the past and present incidents.

“Charges have not been filed against Atlanta Falcon quarterback Michael Vick. It shouldn’t matter. Vick hasn’t grown up and there’s no reason to believe he ever will. He’s has had enough time.

— Jeff Schultz, Atlanta Journal Constitution. “We are an organization that prides itself on not having off-the-field issues. I think we have done a pretty good job of bringing the right people in here so we don’t have to face these types of issues. We don’t like it. We don’t accept it.It is not what we want.” — Rich McKay, Atlanta Falcons’ GM.

NEW HAVEN, Ct. — There are times when some of us media folk are a bit too quick to become judge, jury, and executioner when a story breaks. Even when incidents become plastered in the public before they’re proven by facts, there are still too many of us that as Axel Foley likes to say “Fall for the banana in the tailpipe”.

We live in an age when folks know who the “Runaway Bride” is, but don’t know the name of their child’s teacher. We’re too busy checking out “reality television” while the real reality is happening right before our eyes. Sadly, a shock jock like Wendi Williams can be considered somewhat more influential in the black community than intellectuals like Dr. Michael Eric Dyson or fellow BASN writer Dr. Boyce Watkins.

The Michael Vick “incident” last week became the latest in another continued series of misinformation and knee jerk reactions that have become all too common within and outside of the sports media business. It was originally reported last Thursday that Vick reluctantly surrendered a water bottle to security officers at Miami International Airport that smelled like marijuana and contained a substance in a hidden compartment.

The bottle was found to have a compartment that contained “a small amount of dark particulate and a pungent aroma closely associated with marijuana,” a Miami police report said.

The compartment was hidden by the bottle’s label so that it appeared to be a full bottle of water when held upright, police said. He was not arrested and was allowed to board an AirTran flight that landed in Atlanta before noon Wednesday.

Despite the non arrest, it didn’t take long for the media to do a public flogging on Vick.

The above quote from Jeff Schultz of the AJC was just a random sampling of the kind of backlash that appeared in several local and national reports about the incident. Most folks had Vick traded by the end of the weekend. Needless to say, 2006 wasn’t a stellar year for Vick and the Falcons on and off the field. The team went a disappointing 7-9 and missed the playoffs for a second straight season.

In November, Vick made an obscene gesture toward his hometown fans who heckled the team as it came off the field after a 31-13 loss to New Orleans.

Vick would later apologize, pay a $10,000 team fine and donate another $10,000 to charity. It seems that the airport incident was enough fuel to give some media wags the ammunition to disparage Vick more in print and have him banished from the team.

But this past Monday while we all were still reacting to the conference finals, a unfunny thing happened. The “smoking gun” was found to have neither smoke or be a gun for that matter.

Lab tests on the bottle found no evidence of drugs, according to a memo released by Deisy Rodriguez, an assistant state attorney.

“Based on the lab’s findings, the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s Office is not filing criminal charges,” Rodriguez said in the memo, adding the bottle is no longer considered evidence in an investigation.

So, were there any public apologies? Any choruses of “oops, my bad” by the media? Of course not. All we got was deafening silence and shrugged shoulders. In many ways, this was just another “he fits the description” incident.

But instead of waiting for the entire event to play out, the media’s knee jerk reaction was to paint Vick as Public Enemy No. 1. Damn his reputation mind you, just look at the final resolution as “Hey, they just made a bad mistake”.

I know some folks will say, “Well, he a public person and should be used to that kind of scrutiny”. No disrespect, but scrutiny is one thing and character assassination is just something else.

We would have hoped that after all the many incidents similar to this that have happened over the years that we in the media would have learned not to jump the gun.

Sadly, it’s just another constant reminder of just how far away from “reality” some of us really are.

As a member of the media, I’m not too of a proud man to say “Mike, we’re sorry. I hope we don’t allow this to happen ever again”.

NOTE: The Associated Press contributed to this story.

Tony McClean is a reporter/writer for the Black Athlete Sports Network. You can hear his sports commentaries every Saturday morning at Noon on “Sports Talk” on WCLM-AM 1450 in Richmond, Virginia (www.WCLMradio.com).

By Ken Strickland

May 21, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this

OK, I’ve given all of these comments some thought, and I’m here to say:

I APOLOGIZE

Yes, after thinking over what makes a good quarterback in the NFL, I’ve come to the realization that Mike Vick will never perform up that level. Sure, Vick may be able to run fast, but he can’t think or throw with accuracy.

I know I sounded very ignorant in the past, but my mind was clouded by my racism. I just KNEW Mike Vick would be the best quarterback ever because he is Black, and Blacks are the best athletes on Earth! But, I was mistaken. Blacks are really no more athletic than Whites. Now it is hard for me to get out of my racist ways, and since I no longer consider Blacks better athletes, I tend to believe Whites are smarter!

One of these days I may over come my racist inclinations. Until then I’ll just be confused.

By Ken Strickland

May 22, 2007 12:40 AM | Link to this

imitation is the greatest form of flattery, even if it’s done by an IGNORANT RACIST MORON. The emotional and psychological fate of all HATERS is in the hands of the VA DA. If Vick is charged and found guilty, you will be able to rejoice. If not, all of you will have to find another target to promote your agenda.

By Patman

May 22, 2007 7:26 AM | Link to this

If i were Mike Vick, I’d not only boycot he media but I’d call a press conference just to tell all of you egotistical, self-important, vindictive jackasses to go to hell! Is it any wonder that reporters are held in almost as low regard as lawyers and tax collectors? How many times do we have to see headlines blaring “Evidence Gathered Against Vick” only to find that it’s mail in his name? We’ve gotten nothing from the media but rumor, innuendo and hearsay, none of which can be used in court! The AJC is a putrid sorry excuse of a newspaper and it’s no wonder that your circulation is dwindling!

By Gumby

May 23, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Why do people keep comparing Vick with OJ. OJ murdered two people. Vick murdered no one yet Vick is getting murdered by the media. Danny Heatley was a drunken murderer yet there were no OJ comparisons to him when there should have been. My hope and prayer is that the Falcons win the super bowl this season becauase that will probably be the ONLY way that the fans return to supporting Vick. It appears to me that Falcon fans have totally turned against Vick and have used Vick for the butt of most of their jokes. This Vickfest that continues to take place daily is disingenuous and is done solely for ratings and to sell newspapers. The AJC should be ashamed of themselves for this daily lynching of Vick.