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Some draftees already slated to start
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It probably was a pretty interesting scene at Falcons’ headquarters Monday when veterans came in for offseason conditioning a day after some of the 11 draft picks - and safety Jimmy Williams - were moved ahead of them on the depth chart.
The comfort zone many of them felt they may have been in after practicing well at a mini-camp a few weeks ago got real shaky after this weekend, when the Falcons added a dual-threat at left defensive end (Jamaal Anderson), two cornerbacks (Chris Houston, David Irons), a massive guard (Justin Blalock), a wide receiver (Laurent Robinson), and surprisingly, Georgia tight end Martrez Milner.
The fourth-round grab of South Florida outside linebacker Stephen Nicholas also was somewhat of a surprise until it was disclosed that weakside starter Demorrio Williams tore pectoral muscles last week while lifting weights and could be out for the early part of the season. What’s interesting is the coaching staff’s decision to work Nicholas as the starter at weakside while Williams heals, instead of moving Keith Brooking back to his natural spot and inserting Jordan Beck in the middle.
The thinking probably is that Williams should be back at some point so it’s better to have Brooking learn the middle position in Mike Zimmer’s new scheme and not have him bounce back and forth, like he has for most of the past two seasons. Still, Jordan Beck has to be wondering if he’ll ever get a shot.
Grading the draft is something I’ll let someone else do, but the Falcons did address most of their needs, especially on the first day. Anderson will replace Patrick Kerney and allow Chauncey Davis to move back to being a reliable backup at both end spots. Blalock fills a gaping hole at left guard, which was vacated with the release of Matt Lehr.
The drafting of Houston came when the Falcons could not land the safety they wanted (LaRon Landry). They went after the best defensive back available when their turn came in the second round and made the decision to move Jimmy Williams to free safety - a position many NFL personnel types is best suited for him.
The selection of Robinson (Illinois State) quietly was one of the most celebrated picks in the war room. His sure hands and big-play potential were deemed a perfect fit for what Petrino does in the passing game. If the speedy 6-2, 199-pounder can adapt quickly enough, he will be in the rotation, which puts pressure on Roddy White from now. Robinson’s arrival also was due in part to concerns about whether veteran Brian Finneran can fully return from torn knee ligaments that sidelined him for all of 2006.
Bobby Petrino’s take on Milner was incredibly positive, which probably doesn’t bode well for veteran tight end Eric Beverly. The coaching staff has been enamored with second-year player Daniel Fells and had some decent things to say about Dwayne Blakley after mini-camp. The Falcons don’t seem too concerned with Milner’s dropped passes at UGA.
Center guard Doug Datish, taken in the sixth round, is an understated pick. He did not allow a sack all season at Ohio State and he knows how to play the game. Atlanta drafted nose guard Trey Lewis and runnig back Jason Snelling to fill areas of need but they might not be the ideal fits Petrino was looking for. The post-June 1 cuts could be where the Falcons find their big nose tackle and burly tailback.
Irons and safety Daren Stone will have to shine on special teams to make it, but Irons, in particular, could have the chance to play some in nickel packages.




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By Tyger
April 30, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this
Thought Falcons would make a bigger splash with so many picks.
Missed on Aaron Rouse, 6’4, 220, S, from Virginia Tech and Michael Bush, the big RB fr. Louisville they were looking for.
Not sold on Laurent Robinson, too similar to Roddy White and Michael Jenkins.
Also, Chris Houston is a smurf. If Jason Webster, a bigger and stronger CB struggled in the run game, what is 5-9, 185 Houston going to do??
Latter rounds better served with Tim Duckworth, OL, Auburn rather than street free agents from Maine and Va.
With so many picks they could’ve gotten future Hall of Famers Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson and still had 3 4th rd picks for those career backups theyre so concerned about.
By bebarlow
April 30, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
I sure would like to know the “inside scoop” on why Petrino & Co. passed on Michael Bush in the 3rd round when he was still available at our slot. Any information there?
By aqg
April 30, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
i know jamaal was a need pick but i wish we could’ve traded down a few spots to get him. i just hope hes not a falsh in the pan, one quality season at ark., but we’ll see. i love the blalock selection, a huge OL that has not missed a game and from all indications was a steal were we got him. add chris houston who is said to be the best bump & run corner in the draft and i like what we did overall. martrez milner could also be a steal if he learns to catch the ball.
By GaVaHokie
April 30, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
I still don’t understand the Milner pick, but if he can contribute in two TE sets and block well, so be it. I would have rather taken Mason Crosby (K) at that point.
By dirtiestbird
April 30, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
4 players with first round talent…thats pretty good
By Hawg
April 30, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
All in all, I think we did good in the draft. I am extrememly happy about Big Bank Blaylock, and Houston, and Nicholas. All good grabs. I think Blaylock can help us up front and now with Houston our secondary will be improved. I mean the kid squats 595 and runs a 4.32. He was pound for pound the strongest player in the draft.
The only thing i am disappointed about was not getting M. Bush, but overall I am happy
By honest_abe
April 30, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this
personally i wasn’t thrilled with the jamaal anderson pick, but i’m willing wait and see how he does.
i loved the 2nd round. i know some are wary of houstons size or lack thereof but from all the games i’ve seen him play in, he’s a feisty in your face type corner who plays bigger than his size. i think the combo of houston at corner and jimmy at safety is better than just about any other combo with jimmy at corner and one of the notable safeties.
blalock should be a staple on the falcons line and he’s a good starting point along with kynan forney. as the birds now just have to address their tackles.
everyone doesn’t like the laurent robinson pick but we don’t know anythign about him. i’m pretty sure none of you have seen him play. besides alot of scouts say he could be the steal of the draft. i hope so.
the martrez milner pick was questionable at best. being a uga alum i’ve seen this guy drop way too many passes. having said that he has all the pysical tools to be a very competent TE at the next level. if he learn to hold onto the ball he’s definitely worth a 4th round pick even though i think he would’ve been availabe in the 5th.
david irons should see plenty of playing time next year on special teams and nickel/dime coverages.
By tp
April 30, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Great draft by the Falcons (on paper). Filled glaring needs at DE and OG with two instant starters. It’s going to be interesting to watch Houston this season - his draft stock seemed to be all over the place.
Some great second-day pickups as well. You can’t question McKay’s mid-round drafts of LB’s (Williams, Boley, Beck), so let’s hope he’s yet another steal. If D. Stone can jump over blockers as well as cars as a special teams gunner, he’ll also be a steal. I like Datish too - good to have that kind of versatility (and intelligence AND high character) as a backup. Finally, if you watched Auburn a lot the last few years, you’d know that Irons could be a solid nickel guy. Like Houston, he faced stiff SEC competition every week and did an admirable job. Let’s face it, without even playing a down, he’s a major upgrade over Webster or Rossum!
The real wild-card for me is Laurent Robinson. Hugh Jackson has a great rep for developing young receivers and I’ve read that Petrino’s brother is also a great coach. Let’s hope he presses R. White to play like he did the last two games of last season EVERY week!
By Hawg
April 30, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
Chris houston might be a smurf, but I would rather take a smurf that can run a 4.32 40, and clean 320 than jason Webster. They said Chris Houston was the best bump and run corner in the draft. and shut down some of the best recievers in the SEC.
Robinson has great hands and could be a great reciever to work into rotation. News Flash we did not get CJ, so get over it. We have 2 #1 draft picks in Jenkins and White, hopefully horn and the new coaching staff can coach them up. We did not want to turn into the detroit lions picking 3 recievers in the past 4 first rounds. We see how good that did them
By Zach
April 30, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
Here is our 2007 starting lineup:
DEFENSE
DE- Abraham, Anderson DT- Anthony Bryant, Rod Coleman LB- D. Williams, Brooking, Boley CB- Chris Houston, D. Hall S- Lawyer Milloy, Jimmy Williams
OFFENSE
QB- Vick RB- Norwood FB- Mughelli WR- Horn, Jenkins, White G- Blaylock, Fonoti T- Gandy, Omiyale C- McClure
Now, if that does not look good, then I do not know what you want. If the recievers can live up to the potential and the line can hold off defenders and Vick can throw the ball, we will be tough to beat. This defense is going to be really good, pending on the other corner.
By Chc4
April 30, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
People like Tyger crack me up.
By poop
April 30, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
I some some guy last night graded us out at A+. I wouldnt go that far but the more time that goes by i really dont think Jamaal was a bad pick. Having Demario gone is bad news. I would have liked to have Patrik Willis at Mike and move Brooking back to his natural position. i HATE brooking in the middle buy ill have to live with it. hopefully zimmer can scheme something for him. But if we would have gone Willis at #8 then where to go at DE? this was probably the weakest DE draft that i can remember in a long time and we werent the only team in need of a starting end. ill give us an A- but if Nicholas can come in and contribute right away and Irons plays good enough to cut Webster then i will hapily grade us out at A+.
Look out though, the Panthers and Bucs had two of the most productive drafts too.
By Zach
April 30, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
Of course Alge as the #1 TE
By Matthew At The SLC
April 30, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this
No more players from VATech! Tyger, they didn’t NEED to draft a safety. Drafting the most physical and toughest corner in the draft ensured that the safety they were trying to make a corner can move into the spot where his skills are most suited. Williams has good coverage skills for a safety, but poor coverage skills for a corner. He hits like a Mack truck and will make guys like Meshawn and the other big recievers in the NFC South suffer every time they come over the midde.
Steve, one thing I really don’t understand is why everyone in the past in the Falcons organization, and everyone in the media, keeps on insisting that Keith Brooking’s “natural” position is on the outside. Didn’t he play MLB in college? Didn’t he play inside for Wade Phillips? It only seems to me that it was during the terrible Little Jimmy Mora Era that people thought Brooking was a “natural” fit for the outside. I don’t know about you Steve, but Brooking was regularly getting schooled by faster running backs in the flats and never could get to the QB regularly like a Will LB is supposed to do. In fact, I will always remember the 2004 NFC Championship Game where Brooking had NcNabb in his hands THREE TIMES but couldn’t make the sack. I’m sorry, but Brooking’s stats on the Will were over-inflated, and he never played as well as his stats would have you think. Brooking was MADE to be a Mike just like Zach Thomas. He cannot stop RBs in the flats, and is much better suited to have the play come to him; to have everything happen in front of him. That, combined with his knowledge of the game is going to make him a perfect QB for this defense. I’m just always dumbfounded, Steve, when you in the media in Atlanta always toe to the former Falcons propaganda that Brooking’s “natural” position is at Will. It isn’t. And now that a decent coaching staff that knows what its doing is in charge, they’ve abandoned Little Jimmy Mora’s idiot thinking and put Brooking in a position that doesn’t feed the players ego, something Little Jimmy Mora and his Band of Idiots did too much of here in Atlanta, but which best suits the team.
How about you write an article about that. And alsom why don’t you address the fact that this current staff isn’t going to be afraid to sit players who hurt the team when they act like idiots on the field? When DHall said he was angry about Little Jimmy Mora getting fired, we all knew why. Little Jimmy Mora let DHall get away with murder on the field. How many idiotic personal foul penalties did DHall have last year, or in his career, so far? I’d say at least 10 last year, and over 15 for his career. And Little Jimmy Mora never did anything to hold his players accountable for those kind of severe lapses in judgement on the field, which occured far too often during his out of control time as head coach. How about you write about how Petrino and his PROFESSIONAL staff are going to hold players accountable and not cowtow to their precious little egos? Because more than anything that they screwed up here in Atlanta, I was more angry about the way the Falcons players had insane lapses in judgment on the field in absolutely CRUCIAL situations, and then have to look at the idiotic look on Little Jimmy Mora’s face, knowing he wasn’t going to do a damn thing to put a leash on guys like DHall, who were killing this team with their stupid and very avoidable penalties.
Please, Steve, I hope at some point this summer while there’s nothing going on, you can address this issue with the players and the coaching staff, because avoiding those idiotic, game-killing penalties by guys like DHall is going to be crucial to how we do this year.
By Greedy
April 30, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
We had a A- solid draft. I really felt we needed to get Left offensive tackle to be groomed for Gandy’s spot.I hope we can get Fanoti in shape to rotate in our line. I love his size. I feel like we had a chance to get a solid middle linbackers out of SEC. We need a big RB and we need a massive nose tackle , i am talking about a guy who is just to hard to move, we should give up a 4th round pick 08 for Chris Jenkins.
By Hawg
April 30, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
Zach,
I totally agree with you. I think our defense looks a ton better.
The only thing I disagree with is not starting Todd Wiener. He is an expirenced right tackle. And also not starting Forney. Forney, did not like having to weigh in, and was not to keen on Gibbs. I am excited to see him get better and see how he does.
I am most excited about Blaylock. He will reek havoc in the trenches. A proven starter and benched 225 40 times.
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 30, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
Don’t be fooled by Houston’s lack of size. A lot of good NFL corners are similar in size. DeAngelo Hall is only marginally bigger, Dre’ Bly is slightly smaller, and Ronde Barber is almost exactly the same size as Chris Houston. Houston is supposedly the strongest player, pound for pound, in the draft, and from what I’ve seen of him he more than held his own against the SEC’s better receivers. Like any rookie corner he is going to get burned every now and then, but he should be an instant upgrade over Jason Webster.
I’m a Tech fan so I didn’t have to agonize over Martrez Milner’s hands every weekend, but from what I’ve seen of him he is physically gifted. For the spot at which he was picked, he was a good value. Even if he never becomes a great receiver, he should be a good lead blocker in the NFL.
Laurent Robinson may or may not become a good NFL player. That’s not the point. By looking at the post-draft analysis from various sources, it seems like very few if any people had given Robinson a 3rd-round grade. When picking in the middle rounds, you either want to get a player who fills an immediate need or a player who has 1st- or 2nd-round talent. Michael Bush satisfies both requirements and was sitting right there staring them in the face, and they passed him up for a guy who was given a consensus lower-round grade and who doesn’t fill an immediate need. From everything I’ve seen, it appears the Falcons could have picked Bush in the 3rd round and still been able to pick up Robinson with the 4th rounder they used on Milner. If that’s the case, Robinson was a bad pick regardless of how well he does in the NFL.
I will give them this though — although they passed up Bush, the 7th round pick Jason Snelling should develop into a decent goal-line option by next year, if not this year.
By long time falcon
April 30, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
To all the people who don’t understand the milner pick look no further than crumpler’s troubling injury history. This guy has had a major surgery the last two offseasons and his body has taken a pounding. This will probably be his last contract with the falcons. Plus in petrino’s offensive scheme he uses a lot of H-back formations and Milner is a very good blocker. If they can work on those hands he could be the heir apparent to crumpler.
Regarding michael bush, know one in the NFL knows this guy better than petrino. If he were a special talent, like some claim, then why didn’t petrino go after him. I think it’s very telling that petrino passed on both okoye and bush when he could have had both. Maybe he doesn’t see them as great prospects like some others do. I would have to give the benefit of the doubt to coach petrino since he knows these players better than anyone.
By season ticket holder
April 30, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
I HOPE ANDERSON IS NOT JUST A HIGH CHARACTER BUM THESE TICKETS COST MONEY,AND THE FALCONS NEED TALENT. THAT HAS BEEN THE FALCONS PROBLEM IN THE PAST BEING TO FOCUSED ON GOOD TALKING CHOIR BOYS.
By long time falcon
April 30, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
I think the snelling kid could be the big tailback. Although he is officially listed as a fullback he played the tailback position this season at virginia. He ran a 4.56 at his private workout and that is fast for a big bruiser. If he can’t cut it as a tailback then he will provide great depth at the fullback position. As a fullback one scout said that he reminded him of griffith, the great lead blocker for the bronco super bowl teams. I think this kid will make the roster.
By LestWeForget
April 30, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
Great article Steve and I think we might actually have four starters by the time the season starts with Anderson, Blalock, Houston, and Nicholas and maybe Doug Datish by Game 10.
By Bubba
April 30, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
Hi Y’all! Did anyone read the ESPN article on Jamal Anderson? Dad is deaf, but still got his PhD. Never quit anything. I believe a lot of this was passed on to Jamaal. So, next year, watch out for the J.A.’s! Blalock, whew boy. I’d love to be behind that steamroller. This kid Houston itrigues me. If he’s got the ‘tude, move ol’ Jimmy over and give him that side of the field. Who do I like best? Datish. I think he’ll be around awhile. Might even be a starter before long.
By mountain_jim
April 30, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
Laurent Robinson was rated pretty high by the NFL Network’s Mike Mayock (if I recall right around where we took him), thought to be one of the best evaluators so he may not have been that much of a reach. I read somewhere today that it was Petrino’s brother, the receivers coach, who lobbies hard for Laurent.
So if he busts thats who to blame. He wowed at the combine and caught every ball so hopefully he will make us forget we could have had Bush at this pick.
By Blind Homer
April 30, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Three good starters before we went fishing with Robinson and Datish may be a late round steal. Now if we can only trade Vick for anything, anyone, anybody.
By Ken Strickland
April 30, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Michael Bush is a very versatile, and gifted RB, especially for his size. But, for his size, he wasn’t a power runner. He was actually the home run hitter in Petrino’s OFF, not the short yardage RB. MBush is too talented to be a situational RB, plus his injury is still a concern. Despite what his doctor says, it takes a lot longer for a 240lb+ RB to get into football shape after a 2nd major surgery, following a broken leg.
Don’t be supprised if the Falcons are very active when the June 1 FA period begins. There are still some incumbent backups that are in jeopardy of being released. For those concerned about a replacement for Gandy, don’t forget about his current backup, 6’4” 310lb FOmiyale. He’s likely the reason Petrino didn’t see OT as a major draft need.
Most fans know very little about Jackson and Zimmers OFF & DEF schemes, or how they’ll be implimented. Therefore, none of us is qualified to judge whether any of this yrs draft choices are mistakes. I’ll bet a lot of you questioned the OLB selection, until you found out it was due to DWilliams’ injury. This incident should tell us we shouldn’t be so quick to pass judgement on Petrino’s decisions until we have all of the facts. Despite all of the negative crap posted by our marginal fans, we are on the right track, and we will have a very successful 2007 season.
By CQ
April 30, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
That may have been the best draft the Falcons have ever had. McKay finally did a good job.
I still think he should have gotten Darius Walker from ND with the last pick. He would be a great special teams player and allow us to cut Rossum for sure.
By mountain_jim
April 30, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Ok I can’t find what I claimed about Mayock’s rating of Laurent Robinson but Gosselin’s Top 100 had him at number 71, a little earlier than we took him (75?). And there was a run of receivers taken after that.
“Gosselin’s is the best, in my judgment, because it’s compiled by consulting the people who actually make the decisions: the scouts and general managers.”
By Hawg
April 30, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Thank you Ken…Well Put.
By NunnaYoBiznezz
April 30, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
Boy,i was laughing all day on day #1 of the draft..I was watching the “Brady Quinn Show”,and how they felt sorry for that lil girl and took her off so the camera wouldn’t be on her,awwww..And he left his lady in the green room..
SO,that should tell u what a bust he will be,and that when the going gets tuff,he’s gonna get going,lol..
By chris
April 30, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
I go to Ga Southern, which means I am very familiar with the I-AA game. Robinson is a very good WR. I think if he’s given time to develop (and that shouldn’t be a problem with so many young WR’s on the roster) he’s gonna be a very good #2 WR. He needs someone to mentor him (Joe Horn) and someone to take the pressure off of him in the middle (Jenkins). His speed and sure hands should make him a valuable addition to the falcons. On a different note, as much as I would have liked to have seen C. Johnson as a dirty bird, I wasn’t comfortable with giving away all of those picks the Lions wanted. While WR was a need it wasn’t as big as the OL and DL. The falcons made the right decision and not forcing a trade to the lions for Johnson. Overall I give the Falcons a B+ for their draft. The only downside was not getting a K or big RB.
By uga_b
April 30, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Milner fit the mold of the blocking tight end the Falcons lost in Reggie Kelly many years ago. Daniel Fells or Blakely appears to the second pass catching tight end so it looks like goodbye for Eric Beverly. The receiver pick only makes sense to me if they dont plan on resigning Jenkins or think Finneran may not be viable. I am a huge fan of the Houston pick because it upgraded two positions with one move. All the other picks very nicely filled needs. Everyone was hoping Michael Bush would fall those few spots further and get him in the fourth. I wonder if they are going to cut Webster and Rossum since that position is getting a little crowded?
By mountain_jim
April 30, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
Petrino did see OT as a major draft need - they were probably taking Levi Brown at 8 but once Thomas was gone at 3 and Levi went at 5 McKay switched to DE and was trying to trade back into the first to get Blaylock and lucked into him still being there in the 2nd.
By Paul Hamilton
April 30, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
Where does everyone get that we have an immediate need for another running back??? We have dunn, norwood at running back and we just signed the top free agent full back? I like Bush, but it is not an immediate need, I thought we should have taken that DT from NC State, that would have filled an immediate need.
By steve
April 30, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Great draft. A couple of the top draft websites have rated the Falcon’s draft the best, A+
By Rob in Atlanta
April 30, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Aaron Rouse (sp?) is a personal foul waiting to happen. Thank goodness we didn’t get him.
By Paul Hamilton Jr.
April 30, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
I agree with Daddy. Dunn, Norwood and Mughelli really ought to be enough. What am I missing here?
Milner is not as bad a pick as the know-it-alls here would have everyone believe. He had some bad drops last year, as did all UGA and Falcons receivers, including Alge. But Milner does indeed have big time skills. I think it’s more likely than not he’ll be a decent pro. That’s all you can expect out of most players taken at that spot.
By kg
April 30, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
I like that Petrino has told this draft class that there are high expectations and that they are expected to start or contribute. I hated that the last regime didn’t want to play rookies, told them that they weren’t ready to play. I’m sure that the brass conducted interviews with each draftee and laid out what the expectations were at that time. It like any job interview - if we hire you and pay you this huge amount of money this is what we expect in return. Can you do the job? I also like that the scounting reports on most of the players say that they are hard working, very competitive types. It’s time to clean house and get rid of the players that aren’t willing to do what it takes to win.
By Falcon
April 30, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Everyone is so enamored w/ Bush - He is still healing from a broken leg and got hurt often at L’ville. Pretty sure Falcons knew what they were doing w/ passing him inside top 100 picks. Milner was drafted as an H-Back - his hands are not going to be an issue. Good Draft.
By Daryl
April 30, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
Just a theory! I think that because Coach Petrino, in the past , have coached Michael Bush and Okoye, when he obviously could have drafted either player or both, was the main reason he didn’t. Whether in sports or in business, especially when you yourself are new to an organization, bringing in former employees can be very disruptive and unfair to other members. There could be the perception of favoritism,whether real or not. I think favorism was a big problem under the Mora regime. I think this led to his down-fall. Any good leader always want to be perceive as fair and equitable. It would have been very difficult for Petrino to consistently exhibit this type of control with Bush and Okoye on his new team.
By tp
April 30, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
Well stated kg. We need guys on the field that love the game as much as their paychecks.
Re: a RB, there should be a free agent or two out there after June 1 we can take a look at. Snelling could surprise too.
Either way, I’ll give Petrino the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his own player (Bush) and the team’s reasoning to go with Laurent Robinson.
By Robert Jordan
April 30, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
Where did Joe Tereshinski go in the draft? He was a 1st rounder, no?
By D-Cider
April 30, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
Most experts graded the falcons draft very high. B+, A, *, whatever, which I am cool with considering we don’t know what any of these guys are going to do at the pro level.
one thing I heard about Houston kinda concerned me was that he gets called for pass interference a good bit. D-Hall got hit with a few of these too.
I questioned the 3rd and 4th round picks a little but, hey, considering they didn’t screw up the early picks, I am pretty happy.
By F A Skippy
April 30, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
Only one of these guys was on my list (Blalock)and only if Sears was gone(he was).Don’t take this as a knock on what we got Petrino and Mckay didn’t get where they are by needing my advice on these things.If I put aside my own list and evaluate by need and athleticizm there’s a lot of guys here who have the bodys to contribute.Also I don’t see a case of weak character in the bunch.I know many say just win baby but I do care who I give my money over to and by extention support.
By F A Skippy
April 30, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
An after thought, if Houston can start I see it as almost two starers.I’ve always thought Williams has the makings of an average corner and a star free safty,so make that one and a half starters.I can read so I know the scouting reposts on Robinson but Petrino thinks he’s a real find,I’ll trust his judgement over mine or yours unless he proves it’s not deserved.
By volstar
April 30, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this
You really have to wait a year to evaluate a draft, but we can always speculate………
Anderson this high does not excite me at all. This draft was not very deep so I can’t blame McKay. But Anderson looks like a risk to me. He was dominated by Joe Thomas in the bowl game and was not as effective against top tier opposition. I see this as boom or bust but far from what I would like at #8.
Blaylock. Solid pick. Durable, but not real athletic. Solid 4 year contributor. I think he plays right away.
Houston. Don’t like it. This guy is similar to Batman Carroll. A great athlete but has bad hands, poor recognition skills not real aggressive in run support. Sidney Rice caught 10 passes on him.
Just looking at rounds 1 and 2 I would give this a C+ grade. Blaylock looks good but Anderson and Houston could both very easily be busts. Time will tell if we can coach them up.
By NASDAQ
April 30, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
Good draft overall! I’m glad they didn’t select Busch after further information revealed that he had to have another surgery for his broken leg. I think that Houston is a great pickup, I’ve seen the kid cover and his closing speed is tremendous. He is a little short, however his vertical leap is off the charts so he should be a solid starter for us. Anderson is a beast and so is Blalock. The other picks were pretty good considering their rounds. I can’t wait to see what “Coach P” is gonna do with this team. Fly high birds, to the SuperBowl! I’ll see the rest of you bastards in the dome baby!
By Straight$$$$ (Hater!!)
April 30, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this
I know that this has nothing to do with Falcon football, but I feel it necessary to express my concern with the recent attempt by a one Straight$$$$Homie to have certain racist blogs censored on the AJC blogsites, where I do not condone this type nor do I engage in such dialogue in my person life. I do not approve of censorship either, if anybody should know how censorship can be harmful, it should be the AJC which has been criticized in the past for printed articles that were either out of line or over the top, but they were exercising there constitutional right of freedom of the press and free speech. Racism and hatred exists in every facet of our lives from our newspapers, radio to the programs that we watch on tv, I also beleive that this Straight$$$$ is a hypocrite, because just a few days earlier he was soliciting a young lady for anal sex, and then he tries to act as if though he is outraged and apalled at the type of dialogue that is being posted on the AJC blog sites. Straight$$$$ , you are a loser and a racist yourself, and you really need to get a life and some therapy and if you dont like what you are reading, then get off of the blog site if you do not approve of the content, but do not try and empose your will and beleifs on the rest of us who are more than capable of deciding what we can and cannot read.
By melo
April 30, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
Good draft, wrong QB!!
By NASDAQ
April 30, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this
Melo, please leave and find another team. Vick is our QB and the best we’ve had in franchise history. You should really find another team that will welcome pansies like you.
By mike d
April 30, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this
I think we did pretty good in the draft.But who is going to be our kicker?Most NFL games are won by a field goal,I think we need to address that need also.
By Jay Black
April 30, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
Good draft! 10-6 record this year no matter who’s at QB. give any QB time to throw, and he can pick apart any defense.
By Jay Black
April 30, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, and we do need a kicker.
By ReasonableDawg
April 30, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
I was hoping the falcons would take Brandon Siler from Fla in the later rounds. We don’t really have a true MLB on the roster, and I think he will have a solid NFL career.
By ReasonableDawg
April 30, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this
For those skeptics on the J.Anderson pick, I checked his profile as a hs recruit and he was recruited as a WR. The dude now weighs 288 lbs. He dominated in the SEC in his second year starting at a new position. Now I am not a big fan of “upside” and “potential” (thanks to the ATL HAWKS) but Anderson has tremendous upside and/or potential. That’s exciting!
By jdw11
April 30, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this
is there anything wrong with jordan beck? not just physically but why has he not been given a chance to play? I thought they liked him a lot
By will c
April 30, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this
I like the 2 CB picks as we got burned by several wide receivers this past year. Hines Ward and Terrell Owens killed us and if we can get immediate help at this position, I applaud it. I can wait to see how Jamaal Anderson stacks up at defensive end. I hope he’s the real deal because Abraham is guaranteed to get hurt again.
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By Scooter
April 30, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this
Steve, enjoyed listening to you on 105.5 the fan this afternoon. I feel much better about the 3rd round receiver now. Overall I think we had a great draft. I could not be more pleased with our front office as well as our new coaching staff. I believe we have a very exciting year ahead of us. Look forward to even more good news. Thanks Steve and Go Falcons!
By william cranman
April 30, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this
Why has there been no mention of any free agent signings? Am I missing something? Steve, are you there?
By Steve T
April 30, 2007 8:00 PM | Link to this
Let me say why they pick up another TE. The new offense will use a TE/H-back type and this guy fit that mode. Let the new coach set up the offense and then we can talk about need.
Everyone wanted Bush as the power back, but the falcons got the player I wanted. This back is a steal in the 7th round. This guy can play both back positions. He give us some options in situations.
By Hunk Erdown
April 30, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this
Signed Tony Taylor. He’ll make a push for shoring up that olb spot, and if nothing else be an excellant special teams head hunter.
By once again
April 30, 2007 9:09 PM | Link to this
It was just reported on NFL network that Vick wont be charged with anything in relation to the dog fighting situation. Damn titothebearhugger i guess you were wrong AGAIN. Do you get anything right? ha ha ha I guess that inside info that FA had was wrong as well. I wonder if all the people who threw him under the bus without all the facts coming out will man up and admit they were wrong. Im guessing not
By TP
April 30, 2007 9:21 PM | Link to this
Hey Tyger, Pacman Jones is 5’10 185lbs. Chris Houston is 5’9 7/8 185lbs. Not that much different. http://www.youtude/watch?v=uobr83t2jF0
By bryan
April 30, 2007 9:30 PM | Link to this
Well this is great Coleman out for 3-5 months >:O
By TP
April 30, 2007 9:31 PM | Link to this
My bad. http://www.youtube/watch?v=uobr83t2jF0
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 30, 2007 9:41 PM | Link to this
I like the signing of Tony Taylor. A lot of these undrafted guys who make it are productive college players who don’t do well in drills. With the sudden lack of depth at linebacker the Falcons are facing, Taylor is a good enough playmaker to challenge for a roster spot at least at the beginning of the season.
Rod Coleman’s injury only makes the Laurent Robinson pick look even worse, since the Falcons passed up DTs Tank Tyler and Paul Soliai at that position.
Once again, can’t find anywhere on the Internet that will confirm that report, but I hope you are right.
By F A Skippy
April 30, 2007 9:53 PM | Link to this
Tony taylor was the heart and soul of the Dawgs defense the last two seasons,not to mention the best player.I’m not saying he is a better prospect than Moses or Johnson he doesn’t have an NFL type body.Having watched him play even without the ideal tools for the job don’t count him out.I think the D-linemen need some big assed over sized lounge chairs in the locker room.Since they play so infrequently they might as well be comfortable.
By bryan
April 30, 2007 10:02 PM | Link to this
its also been reported that todd weiner will be out 2-3 months after sustaining injuries when he was trying to teach his son how to ride a bicycle
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 30, 2007 10:12 PM | Link to this
For what it’s worth…
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=2854030
By Dalton
April 30, 2007 10:28 PM | Link to this
Good draft overall. Drafted for need. DE was a bigger need than DT. Biggest concern, why not swap 3rd rounders and throw in a 6th this year or an earlier pick next year and move up a few spots to get Buster Davis. I project him to be a good MLB in the pros ala Zach Thomas.
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 30, 2007 11:04 PM | Link to this
Good news for Vick, validates his story:
http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stories/wveclocal043007vicksurry_latest.227f5d20.html
Interestingly, that story was posted more than 12 hours ago… guess the rest of the media (including the AJC) just wanted to milk the story for all it was worth.
By Titothebear
April 30, 2007 11:39 PM | Link to this
Y’all leave Vick alone. That my dawg man. Speakining of dawg, little early to be saying charges will or won’t be preferred, don’t you think?
By Najeh Davenpoop
May 1, 2007 12:48 AM | Link to this
Damn, why does this website insist on not posting links properly?
Here’s the link
By once again
May 1, 2007 12:52 AM | Link to this
It’s funny to me how people were ready to burn Vick at the cross when the story broke without all the facts. Now that it is confirmed he had nothing to do with the dog fighting everyone is quiet. Just goes to show that a lot of people don’t like him for reasons other than football.The Coleman injury hurts a team that was already an average defense I really hope we can find some players that can come in and help once a lot of cuts begin to happen.
By Brian Hunt
May 1, 2007 1:07 AM | Link to this
TP, that YouTube link is still busted. What was it supposed to be?
By This Gets Old
May 1, 2007 6:02 AM | Link to this
Wasn’t it just last year that we were talking about how “lucky” we were that Jimmy Williams fell to us? That he was a first round talent? Two years ago that we were hyped up because White was a real “flyer” much better than Reggie Brown?
We didn’t know about the LB need but McKay did know. So we passed on the consensus best LB and the two best Corners? Not dogging Anderson at all but check out who had 7 or more sacks last year and how many of them were 1st rounders?
Again it’s a matter of prioritizing what you want. Robinson, a 4th round guy who’s going to beat out your 1st round guy? Milner before a DT? Look at how Ray Lewis and other LB’s talk about the need for big guys up front. We need help on both lines. In every sport you have to be strong up the middle, except for bull fighting I guess or
And finally Williams can’t play Corner in the league. If you need a S then go and get a damned S! Now Williams is the next B.Scott. I guess after so many years I just have to be shown that I’m wrong. Wish that time would hurry up and get here.
By Eternal Optimist
May 1, 2007 7:41 AM | Link to this
I think the Falcons played their hand rather well. My only complaint regarding the 07 draft was that we did not find a middle LB. I agree with Matthew at the SLC that Brooking regularly get burned on the outside, but putting him in the middle is only gonna make matters worse. Middle linebackers are big and strong and able to fight off blocks and plug the middle. Brooking is too small and gets engulfed by lineman. If you noticed last year when he made a tackle it was usually five yards down field.
By CQ
May 1, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
I agree, Brookings days are numbered. He is slow and cant run with the tight ends and he makes tackles 5 yards down the field or jumps on the pile. How many negative yard tackles did he make?
The Falcons need to stop playing favorites when it comes to Brooking.
By Colonel Klink
May 1, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this
Bottom line is that you can speculate all you want, but it’s not going to change the outcome of the draft. The players that we drafted are who we are stuck with, like em or not. I personally think that we had a pretty good draft. Did we fill all of our needs ? absolutely not, but we did fill some critical areas and we landed some nice young talent that will help build a strong foundation for the future. There is just no way that we could have addressed every need with just 1 draft, other players are just going to have to step up and start playing a bigger role in order for this team to succeed. Somebody is also going to have to stand up and smack Vick upside the head and tell him to get his head out of his turd cutter and start being the leader on this team. All in all I am pleased with this years picks and free agents and I think that our future is looking good.
By Whers's POOP ?
May 1, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
HEY DAVENPOOP……… I hear there is a chinese checkers tournament this weekend, are you going to be there ? If so, I would be curious to hear what you have to say about it on next weeks blog sites. If you have a chance to make it to the hula hoop contest as well, your comments on that would also be greatly appreciated.
By AP
May 1, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
with Rod Coleman’s injury, it makes Jonathan Babineaux even more important. So is Babineaux going to be on the roster or not? What’s the status of his legal situation? When will the Falcons decide whether to keep Babineaux? Somebody needs to answer all of this
By Where's POOP ?
May 1, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
AP……….. Babineaux is probably going to to be pushing poop in prison with some guy named “Bama Bubba”. So I would not hold out to many hopes for this guy next year.
By Tsmoov
May 1, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Come on you idiots!! WE ALL know everyting that’s wrong with the FALCONS is VICK’s fault………
Rod Coleman’s injury, VICK’s fault!
Grady Jackson’s lawsiut, VICK is to blame!
Keith Brooking being too slow to play MLB - VICK’s fault!!
Rich Mckay not drafting Michael Bush when they clearly wanted him - VICK is to blame!!
Drafting Martrez Milner who can’t catch a medicine ball thrown by an old lady, VICK’s fault!!
Jonathan Babineaux’s cruelty to animals charge(s) - VICK is responsible!!
The Falcons not drafting a DT on day one this past weekend, VICK’s fault!!
The defensive line getting pushed off the line of scrimage becuse they’re too small, VICK’s fault!!
The secondary not being able to stop somebody on 3rd down, VICK’s fault!!
John Abraham’s injury after the first game that nagged him all year long, VICK’s fault!!
Terrance Moore(AJC) writing articles with no real facts, VICK is to blame!!
When OJ Santiago(TE) fell off that golf cart right after the S/B year to start the ‘99 season, VICK’s fault!!
Jamal Anderson tearing up his knee on MNF in Texas Stadium, VICK’s fault!!
Michael Vick’s airplane arriving late to keep him and the other passengers from making their connecting flights, VICK is to blame!!
The Falcons NEVER having back to back winning seasons in the franchise’s 40 year history, you guessed it, VICK’s fault!!!!!!
So as you stupid morons on this blog can clearly see, unitl ATL gets rid of VICK, they will NEVER see a Superbowl…….EVERYTHING, is VICK’s FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Ken Strickland
May 1, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
TSMOOV, nice post, and a very nice piece of sarcasm. However, there are a lot of ANAL MINDED MORONS that take most, if not all, of your comments as fact, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
By Najeh Davenpoop
May 1, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
Don’t worry, I’ll have full analysis of hula hoops and chinese checkers for you next week. Have no fear.
By fayncbird
May 1, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
The players the Falcons drafted are talented. But really not a stud in the bunch! The Falcons missed out on their chance to get a stud in this years draft! All because they think trading a 1st round draft pick in next year’s draft is too high a price! This is disappointing because a team that believes it can win does not worry about losing the 25th pick in the draft! And believe me, with Calvin Johnson, the Falcons could have won 11 games easily next season! Only Petrino’s great coaching ability will the Falcons win 9 games tops!
By fayncbird
May 1, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
Somebody may need to tell Mr. Goodall that he might want to leave Vick alone and talk to Bud Selig about why people wearing St.louis Cardinal uniforms can get behind the wheel drunk as a skunk and not one eyebrow raised. OOPS! I FORGOT! WHITE SPORTS FIGURES CAN DO THINGS WAY STUPIDER THAN VICK (OR PAC-MAN) AND BE THOUGHT OF AS THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!
By fayncbird
May 1, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
THE CULTURE OF LOSING IN ATLANTA IS CLOSELY TIED TO THE CULTURE OF BIGOTRY IN ATLANTA! 40 MORE YEARS WILL PASS AND THE FALCONS WILL STILL NOT ACHIEVE BACK-TO-BACK WINNING SEASONS!
By will c
May 1, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
Breaking News. Keyshawn Johnson was released by the Panthers. I hope Mr. Blank signs him. He caught 70 passes last year which is more than Jenkins and White caught as the starting wide outs.We need his experience and depth at this position. What do you guys think about this move?
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By MannyT
May 1, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
Corrected You Tube (gotta have your .com)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobr83t2jF0
By fayncbird
May 1, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Bottom Line! If I’m the MLB commish, the Cards teams would fined at least one millions dollars for their incidents of poor off-field behavior! The Cards off-field conduct is far worse than Vick’s, Pac-man’s, Bond’s, or anybody who happens to be black!
By F A Skippy
May 1, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
Once again You’re right about one thing I don’t like MV,I didn’t like Brian Bosworth,I don’t like T Owens,etc.If you think that makes me racist or any other ol’ thing I don’t give a rat’s a*.If Vick is innoocent(or it can’t be proved)that doesn’t chage my mind on the many other things I can’t respect about the man.Let me comment on the burning on a cross reference,is this gift too humanity supposed to be jesus or MLK in this allegory of yours ? or do you mean it in the literal sense ?
By fayncisabuffoon
May 1, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
OOPS! I FORGOT! WHITE SPORTS FIGURES CAN DO THINGS WAY STUPIDER THAN VICK (OR PAC-MAN) AND BE THOUGHT OF AS THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!
Way to counter your own argument. You’re very smart. At least you put it in all caps to bring your stupidity to my attention. I might have missed your dopiness if you hadn’t. Thanks.
By Greedy
May 1, 2007 7:52 PM | Link to this
I love it. I like it alot 6-7 330 6-5 340. we are going to have som hogs out there. It will be tough for them to get to #7now. This is exactly what we need.rookies lineman alone weigh 1400 pounds.lol I am so happy. the smurfs are gone
By Macadamia Knutt
May 1, 2007 8:04 PM | Link to this
mr. smoov,
i totally agree with your post. Let’s get him out of here! Mr. Poop, please tell us more about the Chinese checkers. it sounds quite interesting.
By dallas
May 1, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this
i think anderson was the smart pick but i would have taken okoye personally. i wouldve taken blalock in the 2nd with lamar woodley a de out of michigan, charles johnson in the 3rd. taken cb fred bennet in the 4th rd. i think we would be better off with this draft and we still address our needs.
By once again
May 1, 2007 10:11 PM | Link to this
The fact that you ignored the link Ken posted to show that Vick wont be charged just goes to show whats wrong with so called Falcon fans. The guy wont be charged yet you cant let it go or admit that your fake a* inside info was a bunch of bull. Go ahead and hate the kid but the fact that your brining in the racism word although i never called you one shows just how people on here really do dislike him for reasons other than football. Get a life man
By "D" in Houston
May 1, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this
I will say this….Tony LaRussa, the true leader of a hugely popular franchise get’s caught with a DUI and we have heard little about it since…..coincidence? maybe.
By Falcon
May 1, 2007 11:25 PM | Link to this
D -
I will be extremely happy when Vick is fully cleared of his most recent (sigh …) bad press.
The reason nobody is talking LaRussa is “Q” rating - Baseball is not nearly the force of football and a 60 year old mgr doesn’t carry near the level of reader/viewer interest as one of the faces of the league for the NFL. If Vick was Brady or Peyton the miscues would be pounced on as much as MV by the press and followers of the NFL - without the redneck extremist faction of course.
By joebrave
May 1, 2007 11:58 PM | Link to this
now if we can just get rid of that useless Ron Mexico
By Ken Strickland
May 2, 2007 1:04 AM | Link to this
Notice the last post? I keep telling everyone these marginal clowns are slow learners. Therefore, they have extreme difficulty accepting reality. Otherwise, why continue calling for Vicks removal when team officials, and the media, have repeatedly said he is, and will be, the Falcons QB. You would think by now, even an individual with a marginal IQ should have gotten the message.
By St. Bernard
May 2, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
Here’s for bringing in Keyshaun Johnson.
By terrell barron
May 2, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
IM P** WE DID NOT DRAFT A LEGIT DEFENSIVE TACKLE. ALSO, IF LAURENT ROBINSON CANNOT BEAT OUT RODDY WHITE, FOR THAT 3RD RECEIVER SPOT, HE WAS NOT WORTH BEING THE 75TH PLAYER DRAFTED. HELL,HE PROBABLY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BEAT OUT JENKINS AS WELL.
By once again
May 2, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Ken your right. I posted that Vick wont be charged you even gave a link and people are acting like those post are invisible. The way things are shaping out our defense is going to struggle once again. Like the last few years when our offense would score enough to win our defense could not hold it. The same thing could happen this year. I hope it doesnt but its looking like it could. I will say one thing the new coach is already showingn that he wont allow people who are not producing to see the field, something the last staff would not do.
By Tim Seader
May 2, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
It is a good thing some of the draft picks are ready to start. The Falcons had a decent draft, and I am happy they addressed needs. The big offseason mistake is Letting Schaub go! Thats right, At this point Matt Schaub has more upside potential than Mike Vick. Mike is not getting any better as a football player. I would take a QB with an extra 1000 yards passing, and no rushing yards. Mike is the most overated player in the league. The Falcons will go 4-12 this year at best, before some of these rookies may, or may not start to pan out. Good Luck Bobby Petrino.
By Eternal Optimist
May 2, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
Atlanta fans are pathetic. Everyday, all day. Vick this,Vick that. An we wonder why no one takes this franchise seriously. Just when we do get something good, something exciting, something or someone to bring some genuine interest to this state all we do is find a way to muck it all up. Why should any Falcons fan complain. Outside of the one lucky field goal and an implosion by the Vikings which gave us our only super bowl birth, this franchise would not have a single memory to compare to our recent sucesses. Of course Vick needs to improve, but I love the way the guy leaves it out there. I honestly don’t think that 50% of the people that post here have played a down of football in their lives. The arguements on this blog are totally stupid.
By smh
May 2, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
Tim Sneader have you been hiding under a building? The Texans basically just handed Matt Schaub the same team that got David Carr crushed. How in the hell will Schaub fare any better than Carr when they did nothing to upgrade an offensive line that is worse than the Falcons? The Texans have no weapons what so ever outside of the young gifted but overlooked reciever Johnson, who will face multiple double teams since he is their only threat. Schaub is slower, less athletic, weaker arm, and less accurate than David Carr. The Texans will easily be in the top 10 next year of the draft. They just got blasted for the second year in the row for not doing anything to upgrade that sorry offensive line or adding another offensive weapon to take some pressure off of Johnson. I like Schaub but he is in for a rude awakening in Houston. If you like Schaub so much why dont u move to Texas anyway.
By Falcon
May 2, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
I get tired of repeating this - Despite the fact you preferred Schaub over Vick, The salary cap implications made making the switch to Schaub an irrelevant argument. Get over it. Vick’s the QB and barring an absolute disaster will be the QB in 2008 as well.
By Bushwacker
May 2, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
To Falcon, I bet you the absolute disaster you mentioned will happen and before the season starts. After hearing Vick the thug cry about how tough it is for him, I expect he will blow up AGAIN by doing something really STUPID ,, AGAIN and Coach Petrino kicks his sorry butt to the curb!
By Bushwacker
May 2, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
Salary cap my A _ _, when Blank finally loses total respect from the fans and they quit showing up, the CAP should be the last thing he’s worrying about.
By TL
May 2, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Anybody know the salary cap impact if MV gets cut for being charged with a felony?
http://angels.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05/02/hold-the-phone-michael-vick-may-be-charged-afterall/
By Falcon
May 2, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Blank has nothing to worry about, Vick is extremely popular with a large majority of the fans and he has been able to raise ticket prices 3 times already with a fourth about to hit so your argument has some flaws. As a season ticket holder for many years I remember all to well an empty dome pre-Vick. Your refusal to acknowledge the cap implications is hilarious. The odd thing is that he has not been convicted of ANYTHING - EVER. Yes he flipped off the fans which wasn’t terribly bright, but hardly unique to himself (and from the anger you display, certainly something you would never consider. FYI - the disaster I was talking about was related to his performance on the field. I know “Vick’s a thug”, I’m an apologist etc. etc. Yawn, this is one tired topic.
By Falcon
May 2, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
No impact for a charge - think your looking for the term “conviction”. Voided contract due to discipline would probably not have a negative salary cap connotation. So you have a new sport - get Mike Vick convicted. I recommend you redirect your Season Ticket funds to your efforts.
By TL
May 2, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this
Hey Falcon,
I just asked a logical question. I’m a season ticket holder too and would venture to say I’m as loyal a fan as you are. I’d love to see Vick be successful on and off the field. There’s no denying the guy seems to have some issues though. Whatever. I need no recommendation from the likes of you.
By Falcon
May 2, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this
TL My apologies, You are correct in your statement. As you can see this topic is wearing me thin. This is a post regarding newly acquired talent and the impact these players will have on the team for the upcoming season. Unfortunately this post, like every other Falcon post becomes a battle between the blatant racist/rednecks and the “I see racism everywhere” contingent.
By TL
May 2, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
Falcon,
I won’t debate the MV issue (i.e., should he or shouldn’t he be the QB). He is the QB, which is what matters. What also matters is his character. I’d like to see him get that straightened out. If he gets into trouble with the FBI, the controversy will get taken to a whole new level. Maybe it comes to that, but hopefully it won’t. I’m no racist either way.
By give it up
May 2, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
Are you people blind or what. He will not be charged with anything. Ken gave you dumbies a link to show that he wont be charged. Once again stated that on NFL network that he wont be charged yet people are acting as if he is going to be convicted. PEOPLE HE WONT BE CHARGED WITH ANYTHING THE AJC IS TOO SLOW AND REALLY DONT CARE THAT HE WONT BE IN ANY TROUBLE . When the news broke about the dogs they would not let it go now that is it stated that he had no involvment they wont report it. This paper sucks and so do bandwagon fans. Bushwacker dude you can barely spell. I checked a previous post of yours and to call someone stupid when you can barely spell is not a wise move . Im more than willing to bet that if sorry fans like you dont want to show up then the thousands that are still on the waiting list will be more than willing to show up and actually cheer for this team. This is why Atlanta is regarded as the worst sports town. We either have dumb a* fans who have no knowledge of the sport or dumb a* fans who let race play a part in their opinion of the game or basically both.
By once again
May 2, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
Im sorry it was Najeh who provided the link to the story saying that Vick wont be charged. I guess people are overlooking it on purpose just so they can continue to bash they guy.
By here is the link
May 2, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stories/wveclocal043007vicksurry_latest.227f5d20.html…….This is a link showing that Vick wont be charged. I guess the link will work if not ill go ahead and copy and paste the story…………… Surry County Sheriff Harold Brown tells 13News that NFL star Michael Vick is not likely to face charges stemming from a suspected dog-fighting ring uncovered in his back yard.
Brown says it appears Vick had no involvement in the alleged operation.
Last Wednesday, detectives say they found 54 malnourished pit bulls and dog fighting materials in the backyard of Vick’s Moonlight Drive home.
The Commonwealth’s Attorney and Surry County sheriff’s officers are meeting Monday to discuss whether to file criminal charges.
Investigators made the discovery while carrying out a search warrant for drugs for Vick’s relative, Davon Boddie, who is living at the home.
Boddie was arrested in Hampton for possessing marijuana and listed the Surry home as his address, leading police to search the property.
Vick, a Newport News native, is a quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons
By wow
May 2, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this
After reading stories on that webpage I truly believe they want to get him on something if they can find anything at all. In the end he probably will be found innocent as the sheriff said he doenst believe he had anything to do with it but you never know. I wish him the best.
By TL
May 2, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this
Here is the link,
That link is not the latest information on the matter. Try this one, which has links back to a local news affiliate in Va. I think the take-away is, the investigation ain’t over yet.
http://angels.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05/02/hold-the-phone-michael-vick-may-be-charged-afterall/
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this
once again I’m done with this bs, if you want to pretend that Vick’s problems and short comings (and by extention your’s)are the product of anybody other than the guy in the mirror then knock yourself silly.The last thing I’ll say on this is I’d bet if the truth could come out Vick was involved with the dogfighting.People are presumed innocent unless it can be proved otherwise and that’s as it should be.Only a weak mind would take that as proof of his innocence however.
By Ronaldo Mexico
May 2, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this
It is obvious why the typical black fan here defends Vick vociferously, no matter what he does on/off the field.
Vick is in a power position. Few blacks attain this. No matter how bad he plays, or what he does off field, it’s someone else’s fault. Another black trait is lack of personal responsibility.
Vick is a illegal drug user. Most blacks consider illegal drug use normal behavior.
Vick breeds fighting dogs, and trains them. Most blacks have little concern for animal life. Many, many blacks own dangerous pitbulls as a reflection of insecurity, and irresponsibility.
By Najeh Davenpoop
May 2, 2007 8:37 PM | Link to this
Hmm… that’s interesting. Seeing as how it’s the same news source, looks like the previous article exonerating Vick was wrong. That’s too bad. Wonder how they got a quote from the sheriff contradicting the status of the investigation for the first article?
I gotta say though, considering that Vick is a multi-millionaire, you’d think he could hire a better web designer for that dog kennel site. That page looks like my mom designed it with FrontPage and put it on the web before they finished it. I clicked on the “About Us” link and got the exact same paragraph three times explaining to me what browser cookies are. They have the same dog’s picture on three or four different pages. Plus, you would think if Vick was putting his name on a website, it would be to promote interest… so why is there no picture of him? This website looks awfully fake to me.
By Ronaldo Mexico
May 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
Now it’s a fake website. What a pos you are.
By For Get About IT
May 2, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this
Thank you Texans, we couldn’t have done it without you.
By Najeh Davenpoop
May 2, 2007 9:17 PM | Link to this
Well, OK, you tell me… would you buy a dog from that website? Try clicking on the “store” link — apparently you can buy a dog for zero dollars, but you have to pay a $75 freight charge.
I’m not saying he’s innocent. I’m just saying the first time I saw that website, I thought one of y’all made it as a joke.
By Ronaldo Mexico
May 2, 2007 9:30 PM | Link to this
There are, and have been, fighting dogs all over that property for at least 4 years. Probably more. Yet, you chose to describe the wallpaper in the house as it burns down. Typical.
I can’t teach you anything. You’re hopeless.
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 10:07 PM | Link to this
Najeh and once again I’ll say again I talked with someone involved with getting to the bottom of the dogfighting ring and there is an investigation regarding Vick’s possible involvement.This isn’t the kind of organization with an axe to grind against Vick,they are one who looks out for defenseless animals,as do I. Just find the truth and serve justice,that’s all I want.
By stop lying
May 3, 2007 1:06 AM | Link to this
You got no inside info so stop damn lying .
By CK
May 3, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this
I hope Harrington gets his arm ready… Vick’s a shady dude and he is riding the fence on staying out of trouble. But this time his company and website aqre linked with dogfighting…which is promotional gambling. This could be disator for Da birds.
By psst
May 3, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
people with confidential case information being run by multiple law enforcement agencies frequently spend the bulk of their day on fan Blog Sites. Shhhh. We don’t want this get out to too many people. Skippy - “Mr. Blue” requests usual meet/drop.
By Dawg Hater#1
May 3, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Ck where do you see any dog fighting on vick web sight or gambling? This is call telling a lie on Vick. Pure hate for the guy! I guess all the big dog breeders are in dog fighting and gambling now? Gossip and lie’s at it’s best!
By chris smith
May 3, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this
If things don’t work out between Vick and Petrino I think we could see a trade for Vick and try to move up to draft Brian Brohm who was coached by Pertino. The possibility of that might not be very high but it could still happen, because we need a better QB if Vick plans on staying in trouble and playing the game by himself and not throwing to ball.
By Greedy
May 3, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
I would love to destroy the vick haters. Ask yourself this question , has the guy been charged with anything,Has he ever went to jail for anything. nope
By Tim S
May 3, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
MV USED to be exciting to watch. I get ammused when people Say what if Peyton, or Brady did that. The problem with that comparison is MV should be compared to guys like Joey Harrington, David Carr, Dante Culpepper. If you compare MV to Peyton you should be taking football lessons from your old lady. MV is average at best, and those two #1 recievers used to catch balls in college. If MV had some accuracy The Falcons would not suck so much. Keep an eye on Joe Horns prodution this year. I am right. I was hoping King Aurther would have traded MV, and the #8 pick to Oakland for JR. MV would have fit right in in Oakland. Falcons 4-12 this season
By F A Skippy
May 3, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
This goes out to all you dumb asses.Nobody said there was confidential info in any legal sense.All I wrote was that I told this person I’d hold off on any specifics till they became public.Most of what I was told you’ve already seen by now and what’s left is mostly about who the person is and their roll which is really none of your business anyway.
By Najeh Davenpoop
May 3, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this
In some on the field news, the Eagles signed DT Ian Scott from the Bears. There’s not much left on the free agent market at DT unless the Panthers release Kris Jenkins. The Falcons better get this Grady Jackson situation resolved quickly.
Regarding chris smith’s comment about Brian Brohm, I think Brohm is an incredible QB (better than anyone in this year’s draft) but after seeing Petrino pass up Amobi Okoye and Michael Bush this year, I wouldn’t be so quick to assume that he would automatically go after him if Vick doesn’t pick up the system. I think Petrino has shown that he doesn’t play favorites. Although I wouldn’t have minded seeing him play favorites in the 3rd round of this year’s draft (by selecting Bush), it’s nice to have a coach who impartially judges talent instead of a coach who signs scrubs like Jason Webster and Lance Schulters just because he has coached them before.
By The Dean 21
May 3, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this
Now let’s pay attention to that earlier blog. The subject matter was based on what this AJC writer thought. There were several comments made about other people in his article, but to my surprise, it turned into a VIRUS concerning Michael Vick!
Atlanta is not a sports town because FANS cannot focus on the obvious and the subject matter…..which is the the TEAM, the ORGANIZATION, not an individual player. Why do you supporters and non supporters of one Mike Vick continue to rat and rave about the same things daily?? Start a VICK blog and have at it!! Ask yourself why would you type negative or positive responses about a person who does not live with you, does not support you and does not care about you? Who cares about his activities, as long as he can win games as the Quarterback of this football team is what’s really important, If not, then he needs to go, no matter if he is black, white or green!!
It’s really a silly process. Let’s talk about this 2007 Falcons team, about the recent injuries and possible replacements, its draft picks, and other teams in the city like the horrendous Hawks and yes, even the winning run by a black man for the Braves took a back seat by the mighty AJC. People, stop attacking this man in the media because of what you hear, go visit the court hearings when held to witness the truth yourself. We all need to appreciate the opportunity to blog before it is swiftly taken away… WOW, wonder what some of you would do then>? Now this is what I think as the Dean.
By F A Skippy
May 3, 2007 10:25 PM | Link to this
Dean I’ve never focused on a player in a negative way before but there’s just no way I can support this team till this Virgina thing is resolved.
By jim bob
May 3, 2007 11:28 PM | Link to this
Oh Skippy pull up a chair and watch Vick and Manning go at it on Thanksgiving Day. Looks like NFL Network doesn’t expect Vick to be locked down. They don’t seem to care about accusations of waterbottles laced with drugs, dogfight breeder or missed flights to DC. The NFL loves packed stadiums and the expectation of excitment. He brings it all to the table Skippy. I don’t know where the game will be played, but I know the RCA Doom or Georgia Doom will be a sold out. Think you watching some Falcon football Thanksgiving Day Skippy?
By F A Skippy
May 3, 2007 11:36 PM | Link to this
No JimBlob not as I’m aware of.
By Reconnoiter
May 4, 2007 12:04 AM | Link to this
Lest you all forget, the rapist in the Kearny house was black. Some black guy this dumbass chick drug home with her. What’s the lesson here? OH, gee, that’s a tough one. Maybe that blacks tend to be primal sexual primitives?
I love it when black Vick apologists use the Kearny incident to defend Vick’s position, when the rapist was BLACK. Damn, you clowns are pathetic.
Here’s a tip. Don’t ever move out of Atlanta. Keeping sucking that chocolate teat, because you’d never make it outside the mudring of Lufertown.
By ALLBTME
May 4, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
To: Ronaldo Mexico
To categorize a race of people it would seem that you have a serious problem… As if you really want to get some thing off of your chest. I curious what do you think the typical BLACK FAN IS ,because I have an idea of what I think the TYPICAL WHITE NASCAR fan is. This blog is meant to EXPRESS OUR THOUGHTS ON THE FALCONS I read some blogs in other areas and it’s strictly for the up building and support of their home team.
Ignorance does not have any color traits, nor should you spew your racist antics on this blog, I don’t care about defending MV if he screws up he should face the consequences.
Honestly I believe that MV has been knocked to his knees, I think that MV knows he is under the gun, and usually in these situations you have to go through the gauntlet and he is going through, as I see it there is no other place for him to go but up… We have to cut all this I HATE MV crap and be supportive, at the end day he is human, and it is difficult at best to get your sh!t in order when you have a million and one wanna be athletes scrutinizing your every move. Believe it or not it sounds like a lot you try to live vicariously through MV.
Look at the fans up north how they build up their teams good or bad, ATLANTA has no sense of the word of FANBASE, especially with people like you. It is so obvious that you have a lonely existence and if you think about it you almost sound like the murder in the VA Tech Killings, you should look at yourself and it might just scare you how many close characteristics you guys share.
By Seymour Brown
May 4, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
Amen !!!!!!…. A.B.M. Go sing it on the mountain.
By chris smith
May 4, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
I wish all you’ll people would just get off Vick’s case and let the man live his life. When Vick gets convicted of something then you’ll can say JUNK about MV. Until then Shut Up.
Now to the thing about Keyshawn Johnson i wish we would pick him up because he is a big target that can go across the middle and give Vick a big target to through to.
Petrino has done a could job so far to me because he as been making a point with the moves he has made. Like signing Joe Horn, drafting Robinson, because the falcons had the worst receiving offense i have ever seen including Crumpler. Also Anderson will be Kerney’s replacement. So Petrino has done a good job of addressing the needs here in Atlanta.
We also do need a kicker.
By Seymour Butz
May 4, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Finalyy someone who is not afraid to stand up and say how we all feel. good job !! BLACK MAN.
By pssst
May 4, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
new breaking information - confidential sources have revealed to me that Skippy is a wannabe - I also your post where the Falcon picks “weren’t on my board”. A true renaissance man - Front Office Player Evaluation skills AND links to law enforcement in states he has never been to. Just spoke to my man in Blank’s office. It seems AB has professed deep concern with Skippy’s inability to support the Falcons. He indicated to me that Blank has had preliminary discussions with Goodall where Falcons will cease operations until Skippy’s concerns can be assuaged. I will keep you posted.
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
ABM - Let me preface this remark with my belief in presumption of innocence, particularly in any alleged act in which no charges have been filed.
I also assume it is all “reasonable human’s expectations” that acceptable social behavior does not include organized dog fighting regardless of the race of the people responsible for such a despicable event.
Also - you state that “if it was a white guy”, unfortunately if you look at the criminal transgressions of NFL players (there is a list above) The vast majority of these players are AA. Please do not follow with something along the lines of white conspiracy shielding white athletes, this is simply not reasonable.
Additionally, if you look beyond the sports pages, 3 white cops are facing murder charges (rightfully so) in shooting an old lady. I believe the police are considered a “person of authority”
I am expecting to be labeled (by you) a racist. That’s cool. When I blast away on the Rednecks I am a Vick apologist so the label does bother me.
By Nookah
May 4, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
As a Jamaican and an ardent Falcon fan(living in Jah-mek-ya; and oh by the way do not assume I am black) I have to endorse ABM and quote Bob Marley - “Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds” When I read some of these so-called bloggers you would think they anything but Falcons fans. I am sorry for some of you you guys. I would hope that for your sakes your expressions are not reflective of your general trend of thought or it certainly suggest that the majority of you need help. Keep on keeping it real ABM
Nuff respect!!!
Go Falcons
By NFL Man
May 4, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
Vick- It’s not just the “local” guys getting on your case anymore. The National media are hammering you as well for your play on the field(or lack therof) and the littany of off-field incidents. Just this week I have heard at least 5 National radio/tv programs discussing Vick and all his problems. None were flattering on his play or off-field actions. Time for MV7 to get his act together or he may have nowhere to land once Atlanta cuts him.
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this
Excellent response … I particularly like your inability to use fact, or respond to pertinent fact, coupled with resorting to name calling with your White Devil connotation. You have proved yourself to be a rational forward thinking person. I am sure that your station in life reflects the high quality of your character (Just as MLK wanted). You should buy a full wardrobe silk screened with “I keep it real!”
By Creole Joe
May 4, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
BOO-YAH…… Tear Falcons A$$ ABM.
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
So just to get this straight - You can call me a white devil, yet you are “insulted” by my quoting MLK. So far as I know MLK’s writings and speech are not “protected” solely for the use of a black audience. There is a federal holiday in his honor for ALL people if I am not mistaken?
McGwire - didn’t he just fail to reach election to the BB hall of fame by a wide margin? Might this have been due to his perceived steroid use? Nahh just a 500 HR guy being kept out for other reasons.
La Russa - you want to compare an old man BB Mgr with very little national appeal to MV one of the biggest stars in sports? OK that seems reasonable?
As a white man living in the south I fully realize the struggles of your ancestors. You, on the other hand, have had every opportunity to advance through society so your inability to do so is a direct reflection on the quality of your character, not the color of your skin. Take a look in the mirror some time.
Finally - just admit you are a racist and it’s all good. Your tone and words already speak to the point so why not clear the muddled gray area. Personal offense? You spew hate and derision yet anybody, particularly a white devil like me, should concern myself with your feelings? Your a laughable joke of a “man”. Perhaps you need to learn some personal accountability rather than hiding behind the well practiced shield of victimization you have honed to perfection.
By Creole Joe
May 4, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Falcon…… You quoting MLK is as offensive to me as it would me quoting David Duke to you. I am not a white man so I would not presume to understand your daily struggles. As you are not a black man, so I would not expect you to understand what black people have went through.
As for your perception that I have not advanced in society shows that you sir are the racist. You just assume that because I am an outspoken black man, that I am jobless and poor.
Just for your information and not that I feel a need to quantify myself to you, but I just so happen to be a succesful black business man that did not go to college due to my financial situation growing up, I made a choice to better myself and went through many obstacles and fought many up hill battles against the system and many a white person that were determined to se me fail, but over all this I prevailed, but not all black or hispanic people are as fortunate as I was, if you do not beleive me just refer to the front page of the AJC nad you will see that the majrity of students tht failed the proficiency exam were black and hispanic, just a coincidence ? no !! Is it a conspiracy, No !! not a conspiracy either. It is a flaw in our system that tends to favor the white man and not he blacks or hispanic.
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Creole - so far as I know I have not engaged you previous? As such, I have made no connotation to you position in life. Unless of course you are ABM, in which case you cheer yourself under separate cover which would be strange behavior and lead me to not believe anything you would venture forth. So by extension of this, your conclusion of my racism is supposition. As is your guess as to the racial makeup of my immediate family. I have no problem with the success you have achieved - It sounds to me as if you have chosen the path of effort versus entitlement.
I stand confident that ABM is not a success in this world. I do not recall any language by me referring to him as homeless and/or jobless - stick to the facts. If he was successful, he would not hide behind ancient defeatist rhetoric.
Wow - David Duke and MLK - similar in historic scope and with a similar message. As with ABM I could give a flip about your indignation to my quoting a nationally recognized political leader.
Proficiency tests are delivered to all students equally. It is based upon a state mandated curriculum that all students are expected to learn. I am not blind to the quality of education being rec’d by students in predominantly black schools. By the same token, I am not blind to the fact that GA spends more $ per student than any other state in the country, yet continually ranks last or near last in educational rankings. This spending is not allocated to “white” schools. I would venture to say - without supporting fact in front of me - that more money has been pored into under performing districts than successful ones in an attempt to improve the woeful test scores many districts report.
One final note - Outside of the extremist/redneck/racist contingent that these posts provide forum to, If we were only racist anti-black haters we would not have much to root for in the NBA or NFL - leagues dominated by AA Athletes. Personal accountability is not a racial concept.
By Creole Joe
May 4, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
Falcon…… What did you eat a dictionary for lunch ? You have used a lot of oversized words that I am sure are far above your normal day to day vocabulary.
I kinda have a feeling that this is your way of trying to make yourself seem superior to us dumb “ol” black folk.
I am sorry if I responded to you previous post.. as I look back you were responding to ABM and not me.
I cannot say that I agree with everything ABM is saying, but he does have some valid concerns and points, he just does not seem to know how to express them in a form that is non-confrontational.
ABM_ Nothing personal brotha,
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
I don’t carry the inferiority complex necessary for me to portray myself in a false light for acceptance/superiority. By the same regard, I do not feel compelled to manage my language to the lowest common denominator. “Dumb ol’ black” - again supposition. So far as I know, the south is home to the most prestigious black universities in the nation. I’m pretty confident graduates of these schools read these posts and do not find my choice of language to be intimidating.
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
I stand corrected - AMB can only be considered a racist if you count the whole human race. Honkey? Thanks -I am cracking up. I wish you were here could laugh in your pathetic small minded face.
By Creole Joe
May 4, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
Wow…… I do not feel compelled to manage my language to the lowest common denominator. And what ior whom would you consider the lowest common denominator ? is that your politically correct way of calling me the “N” word ?
You are really starting to sound more and more militant in every post following a response. Should all of us black folk just shut up and bow down to your superior dialect ?
By Creole Joe
May 4, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this
Also, I would’nt say that your language is intimidating. You actually sound kind of silly, almost as if you are appyling for a job with the AJC. Do you ned a job Falcon ? I can give you a job if you need one, I would do that for you.
By falcon
May 4, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this
yes that is clearly what I am seeking - a world of black people bowing down to me.
I am a racist grand wizard of the KKK and fuhrer of the Aryan Nation. I guess there’s not much more I can add.
By Creole Joe
May 4, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
I have to admit Falcon, you are intelectually stimulating. Its nice to have a debate with someone and not have to hear so much hate.
You take care Falcon, and think about that job offer. It is always an open offer.
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the offer Creole - Can I wear my hood to work? That probably wouldn’t go over that well so I guess I’ll have to stick to my current job and pass on your offer. It wasn’t me who brought up the level of my vocabulary now was it? I guess all that $ I spent for my degrees was worthwhile.
By The Dean 21
May 4, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
Not to break up all the hate going on about race and MLK, but this is a blog about a football team guys. Let’s bring the topic back on the Falcons and not society as we know that’s a huge story within itself. I hear that the Falcons have offered a contract to the former field goal kicker of the Cowboys (Cundiff). Sould we go after him or the former Saints kicker (Carney)? I also noticed we lost the free agent DT to the Eagles. We must find a DT until Coleman returns. Again, let’s put this blog back on Football!!!!!!!!
By Creole Joe
May 4, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
Yes Falcon. I am impressed. I would’nt know, I never went to college.
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this
Agreed - DT is going to be a huge issue w/o Coleman. If we get Pass Rush From Anderson and for some strange reason ABE stays healthy for the 1st 4 games, maybe the giant rookie can provide temporary relief. Shopshire hasnt proven effective in thepast and I don’t know if Babineaux will be here. Jenkins would look good but is unlikely - We will get some Vet after roster cutdowns
By The Dean 21
May 4, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this
ALL STORIES LEAD TO MIKE VICK! AJC, PLEASE START A BLOG ONLY ABOUT MIKE VICK AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP THE FOOTBALL TOPICS HERE!
Who cares what he does off the field? As long as he is not convicted of a crime, he will be able to suit up on Sundays! If he is convicted, then we need to find a replacement. Although, the Falcons were pretty bad without him after the super bowl run.
We need to make sure DJ or Joey is ready because Doug Johnson took us to a point of no return!
AGAIN, as I stated in my earlier post….Atlanta is not a sports town because FANS cannot remain FOCUS on the obvious and the subject matter, which is the TEAM.
This team should be much better. I see a lot of potential and of course I see a lot of weakness at certain positions. I still feel that this coaching staff will be much better and should improve our wins by 2-3 from last year’s high school coaches!
I’m interested to see how many cuts Petrino will make by June? We know of two that should make that list….Webster and Rossum.
CHECK THIS OUT, the Bengals signed Ed Hartwell today to a 1 year deal…LOL Now which Hartwell will they get? My guess the good one because he only signed for 1 year. This is what the Falcons should consider with future free agent signings.
By Evan in Athens
May 4, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this
I could not emphatically agree more with Falcons most eliquently stated hypothesis.
Mot only is it an insightful and bold statement, but the vocabulary chosen to portray such thoughts was very clear and concise.
Well done ol boy !!!!
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this
From what I know about Petrino (not much) it seems his offensive design is better suited to MV strengths - More throws done the field rather than the short crossing routes from West Coast BS under Knapp/Mora. Also - I am hopeful we will be like every other team in the league and throw some screens - boosts completion percentage (hopefully reducing the 3 and outs) and we have seen that Norwood in the open field is lethal. D can’t be worse than it was, I just can’t see how this is possible from the last few seasons. Injuries stacking up and we haven’t even hit mini-camp. Need some breaks at some point.
By The Dean 21
May 4, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this
Falcon, I’m concerned with putting such high expectations on a rookie. I do think he will be good eventually, but he will be considered RAW in the NFL and he could have a difficult time adjusting. I think Jenkins is the best bet considering who is left at that position. I assume Grady Jackson is done here and so, we need to find two able bodies on defense! C. Davis could be the answer if he could get his mind on improving his game!
By Evan in Athens
May 4, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this
Bravo Falcon !!! Bravo!!!! Another eliquently stated comment, Bravo !!
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
Don’t get me wrong I would love to have Jenkins but Carolina is not going to trade him to us and I don’t know if we will be able to afford his asking price if they let him go. A stop gap could be William Joseph - under performing former #1 pick from NYG - He looks likely to be released. Shaun Rodgers in Detroit? Not sure his status due to cap. Also - DT that didn’t report to Denver … Big Daddy Wilkerson. Problem is w/o Vick restructuring his deal, I don’t know what type of $ is available under cap. Also - Falcons are still talking in terms of Coleman being healthy in Sept. I can’t see a 300+ pound guy with a blown Quad ready that quick but I guess we will see.
By The Dean 21
May 4, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this
One person stated earlier that we should go after Keyshawn, I’m not sure that would be a good move, but he has played for Carolina and Tampa Bay, the only 2 teams left are the Falcons and the Saints in this division.
I don’t know, maybe bringing back Mort to kick is not a bad idea.
The two road games at the beginning of the season will be a test for this team; this is why the defense must be addressed now. This defense had so many injuries last year. They are not off to a good start adding to the injured list this year.
By Evan in Athens
May 4, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this
Falcon… Pull my finger, I have a hypothesis I would like you to hear. Its called the “Hershey Squirts” theory.
By The Dean 21
May 4, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this
I agree Falcon, Coleman will not be himself at least until mid season. Last year he could never get in rhythm due to injuries. I know the cap is an issue and maybe by releasing some players that did not perform last year and would not be a good fit in Petrino’s system will give us enough room to sign a DT. I think the other option is Vick restructuring his contract. That would show his improvement toward leadership and wanting this team to win now!
By Falcon
May 4, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this
Evan - your hershey squirts theory seems apt - you seem like the type well familiar with Sh**g his pants
By The Dean 21
May 4, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this
THE AJC IS WAY TOO SLOW IN DELIVERING POSITIVE INFORMATION!!!!!
BREAKING NEWS: Falcons sign K Cundiff By Chris Pika, AF.com May 4, 2007
The Falcons signed a placekicker to the active roster as they added unrestricted free agent K Billy Cundiff on Friday.
By NFL Man
May 4, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this
I have read a few posts here asking for Vick to restructure his contract. Why? If he restructures it will mean more years and a signing bonus that will tie him to the team for 2-3 more years. It’s my understanding that his cap hit goes way down next year which would give the Falcons an opportunity to part ways if he struggles this year. From everything I have read, this is his last year to prove to the organization that he has the capability to take them to a SB. If it is more of the same, I see the Falcons going in a new direction in 08’.
By The Dean 21
May 4, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this
NFL Man, I know that Tom Brady restructured his contract in order to sign Moss as noted below:
Quarterback Tom Brady’s restructured contract saved the Patriots $3.96 million on the salary cap, helping facilitate the acquisition of wide receiver Randy Moss. Breaking News Alerts The Patriots took Brady’s $6 million base salary for 2007 and paid $5.28 million of it to him in the form of a signing bonus. That lowered Brady’s base salary to $720,000.
Brady’s base salary remained the same for 2008 ($5 million) and 2010 ($3.5 million).
I’m pretty sure Tom Brady is not going any where soon, so it made sense. But since MV7 is not so popular with some of the fan base here as well as being looked at to succeed next year or he may be shipped out…maybe it’s not such a good idea for the Falcons. I know this will be his 1st season under Petrino and hopefully he will allow Vick at least 2 years to be successful and not one. This remains to be seen.
By Najeh Davenpoop
May 4, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
Angry black man, there are plenty of black people in this country who are truly oppressed and in need of your support. A multimillionaire athlete is not one of them. There are too many instances of true racism in this country; playing the race card when it doesn’t apply only weakens the argument in the many situations where racism is truly present.
For the many people here who don’t seem to know how the salary cap works, you can’t just restructure your contract over and over again. Tom Brady did not take a pay cut to accommodate Moss. The restructuring only changes the way salary is counted against the salary cap, by changing base salaries to bonuses or vice versa. Restructuring doesn’t involve giving up any money — it is just a bookkeeping measure that allows a team to manage the salary cap. A player sees very little if any change in their bank account by restructuring his contract.
The Petrino offense may or may not properly take advantage of the skills of Vick or the rest of the offense. What it is, though, is an NFL offense. Under Greg Knapp, the Falcons ran a college-style option offense — naturally, this didn’t take advantage of anyone’s skills and made for an inconsistent and unreliable offense. Under Petrino, we can count on play-calling that is suited to building offensive rhythm, allowing the QB adequate time to set up in the pocket and step into his throws, and allowing receivers to run proper routes instead of wondering whether they should be blocking or looking for a pass. That’s pretty much standard for any NFL offense, but it was too much to ask from Jim Mora, Greg Knapp and company.
And finally, I don’t think the wildly inconsistent Billy Cundiff is any improvement whatsoever over Mort. I’d rather see the Falcons keep Mort and Aaron Elling in training camp, and allowing Elling, Mort and Koenen to audition for long field goals. Mort is still fully capable of hitting field goals up to 45 yards. Koenen should still exclusively handle punts and kickoffs.
By rick
May 4, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this
a good article on vick:
http://www.sundaypaper.com/CurrentArticles/tabid/98/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/50/050607-SPORTS-Rebel-without-a-cause.aspx
By Ken Strickland
May 5, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
I’ve been out of town for a few days and I’m just catching up. To the CULTURALLY DEPRIVED MORON calling himself RONALDO, MEXICO. Here’s some food for thought you should consider the next time you feel compelled to post racially insensitive crap about Black people. How would you classify the people who inslaved, and indiscriminately murdered, raped, sold, dehumanized, and hung tens of millions of Blacks for over 500yrs? Who committed virtually the same acts against Native Americans? All of these are inhuman and ungodly acts. Who do you think hunted the Bald Eagle, the mountain lion, the Florida panther, the fox, the wolf, the black bear, the alligator, the wild mustang, the plains buffalo etc, etc, etc, into near oblivion? Study your own history of violence against animals, fellow humans, and nature, before you try passing judgement on others. IF YOU ARE LIVING IN A GLASS HOUSE, YOU SHOULDN’T THROW STONES.
By The Dean 21
May 5, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this
White Power, why must you show yourself as Power on a freakin football blog. Take your your sorry azz to the public and let them know how you feel. Go to the hood and preach this speech and see how the apes will treat you! I tell you, must be a kid writing this, because a man hiding behind a keyboard spitting out racist remarks has a kid’s brain or should I say a dog’s brain. If you nothing to say about this football team that is worthy, then crawl in a hole and shoot yourself, not others like that coward at Virgina Tech!
By your HERO and IDOL
May 5, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
Don’t get your panties in a wad, bloggers. Really, other than a few high-round picks every year, draft positions and ratings don’t mean diddly squat. Look at Colston and Jones-Drew. Quit putting all your trust in a few tv idiots whose opinions come by ‘word of mouth’.
By The Dean 21
May 5, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
GOOD POST KEN, you know we are in the south when you can read the hatred responses from idiots like Ron Mexico and White Power. They are cowards that has the guts to speak about racial issues when they belong locked up away from society.
It’s sad that these are real life people still walking around today with hate but yet afraid to go to the source. Walk up to the nearest black person and tell them your feelings, not write it on some blog because you got your panties in a wad due to your current lifesytle. F* only brag about what they can do, when afraid to actually do it.
Back to the football side of things, the Falcons will start mini-camp in a few days. We will see what role these draft picks will play. DT is still a priority for this team.
By Send Money
May 5, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this
Dean 21 I’m not a fan of Vick but I agree that white power and others are backward people with diseased minds.However you contend they should be locked up for their views.Do you comprehend the first amendment to the constitution ? unless a law is broken they have a RIGHT to their opinions.It’s a problem in this country that people can’t grasp the nature of our freedoms.If anybody advocates violence that’s another thing, but you seem to be for suppressing speech because it offends you,remember these things cut both ways.Now for my bit of free speech,if Vick is guilty of fighting dogs or had knowledge of it, he should never play another down in the NFL.
By The Dean 21
May 5, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
Send Money, My point of them being locked up is not about their views, it’s about their lack of normal behavior by placing racial hatred on a football blog. My feeling is that they should be the state’s property. Why do you think the VTech murders happened? There is a forum for voicing your opinion about people of color you don’t like. To make this your forum is wrong. The topic of this blog has nothing to do about race, color or sex. If people just read before typing, it would solve the issues of backing up this blog with racial issues.
By The Dean 21
May 5, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
White power..look behind you, I know being white you may not have much of one, but it’s where your sht releases from that filthy body of yours. But we can tell that sht also releases from your mouth to your hands!
Can you understand that?
By The Dean 21
May 5, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
White Power, have you checked the latest crime stats on white serial killers? Hey idiot, your race leads the pack. They are also number one in domestic crimes…imagine that. We know that your uncle may be your daddy! And……Guess who’s number one on welfare? Yep, your race bud!
By The Dean 21
May 5, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this
Of course you’re not going to walk up to the nearest brotha and talk my talk. Why? Because of the obvious. The only thing apes are good for is crime, which is bad. Sure if I said this to a apes face they would shoot me without question.
My point exactly!!! Just keeping being brave behind your keyboard Jethro!
By Ken Strickland
May 5, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this
WHITE POWER, go ask you mother/wife/girlfriend what it means. They’re all likely the same person. Since I’m not infected by the disease of racism, I have no need, nor inclination to attack Whites as a whole. I’ll just deal with ANAL MINDED MONKEYS like you. And yes, I referred to you as a monkey. Since you want to play the race game and compare certain humans to monkeys, let’s look at you.
If you say, look at the redhead, or blond, you’re referring to hair color, not skin color. Therefore, if you look at a monkeys skin color, you’ll find it’s very much like yours, not a Black persons. A monkey’s hair is straight, which is more characteristic of you. His lips are thin, which is also more characteristic of you. They have stooped, or rounded shoulders and an abnormally curved spine, which is more characteristic of you as well. This as a result of evolving in a glacial environment where there was an insufficient supply of sunlight and food rich in vitamin D. Vitamin D is necessary for proper bone development. Monkeys have very flexible arches, and exaggerated arches are very common among Whites. Blacks are known for being flatfooted, which was once an automatic exemption from military duty. Most tree dwelling animals have your type arches, which aid in climbing and perching. Most land based animals have flat feet, and fully developed buttock muscles, which is good for running. We all know who the best runners among humans are. Monkeys are the best at climbing, and we know who the best climber among humans are.
You see WHITE POWER, two can play this stupid racial game. Just look at the results when that happens. Now you understand why I have more cause to call you a MONKEY. Like I said before, you ANAL MINDED MONKEY, IF YOU ARE LIVING IN A GLASS HOUSE, YOU SHOULDN’T THROW STONES.
By Send Money
May 5, 2007 8:07 PM | Link to this
Dean 21 Bob Dylan wrote the line …fearing not I’d become my enemy at the moment that I speak.I get your point,it’s just wrong though.RIGHTS are absolute unless laws are broken,these dumb asses aren’t breaking any laws.Now if the ajc doesn’t allow them to post, that is their right also.
By The Dean 21
May 5, 2007 8:34 PM | Link to this
Ken, LMAO
Send Money, I’m not asking them to be jailed, just placed in a facilty that treats crazy people or better yet in a facilty controlled by blacks and then his a** would have different thoughts when released. My whole point is that these idiots continue to promote the race card on Falcons blogs. Now you have to ask yourself why? Is it that most of the players are black? Is it because of one rich Mike Vick. Yes, the AJC is at fault for allowing these idiots to post racial remarks on a Football blog. Their point is to stir some of the black people up because they can (ie:a football blog.) Now that’s intelligent.
We know they have rights, but these are the types that roped and pulled a black man behind a p/u truck in Texas. Breaking the law is always in the future with people like White Power!
By Send Money
May 5, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
Dean you’re kidding right? That’s as wrong as saying we should stop blacks driving nice cars in case they’re drug dealers or car thieves.Like I posted before it’s a sword with two edges you’re promoting,and it’s un-American.
By Ken Strickland
May 5, 2007 10:01 PM | Link to this
SEND MONEY, you say this attitude is un-American, but this country was founded on this standard. On one hand they shout GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH. Then they deprive virtually everyone else in this country that very liberty.
The CONFEDERATE MINDED TRASH that’s frequenting these blogs are modern versions of their IGNORANT ANCESTORS. They try to promote this outdated concept of racial supremacy. If you’ll notice, their comments are all the same. Whatever group, or individual they target, they spew vile, derogratory comments in an attempt to reduce that group, or individual to the lowest common denominator. Their CONFEDERATE MINDED ANCESTORS went to great extremes to dehumanize everyone including Blacks, Jews, Native Americans, Asians, and Whites that were against their policies. That’s why they declared war against, and then attacked the United States of America. They also attacked, and drove from the south, various religious groups that apposed slavery, like the Quakers and Amish. These ANAL MINDED CONFEDERATE MONKEYS have to perceive the opposition, in their minds, as subhuman. That’s because deep down they know they cannot see themselves beyond being barely human.
As time passes, they will become more vile and degratory, because attitudes are rapidly changing. More and more, they are becoming fewer and fewer, and they know it. These changes are causing them, and their CONFEDERATE MINDED ATTITUDES, to be let behind, socially, politically, and economically. They have been reduced to fighting for symbols of their ignorant, violent past. That’s why they make such a big deal over the confederate flag, and a confederate history month. They meet to reinact the butt whipping they took. They spend so much time trying to relive their embellished past, they can’t adjust to the present. Time, knowledge and intelligence are their greatest adversaries.
By Ken Strickland
May 5, 2007 11:31 PM | Link to this
WHITE POWER, I’ll give you an E for effort, but you are simply too crude, ignorant and immature to be an issue. You don’t hate Blacks, you are merely trying to deflect your own self-hatred. Name calling, stereotyping and race baiting won’t change who and what you really are. I feel sorry for you, I really do. You are trying so hard with your racist rhetoric, that you appear to be attempting to convince yourself.
You are obviously a sorry excuse for whatever the hell you are. If you believed you actually amounted to anything of value, you’d have no need to vilify others. That says an awful lot about how you see yourself instead. You see yourself, deep down, as ANAL MINDED TRASH. Therefore, you must reduce others to less than trash in order to feel better about yourself. Again, I feel sorry for you. Racism is all you have to contribute to a sports blog.
By The Dean 21
May 6, 2007 3:13 AM | Link to this
Hey Stupid Power, for your information I have a life, so I don’t sit around all day on this laptop I stole from a white man to politically correct you on race issues in America. As I’m getting ready for work, I checked to see what hate mail you left me and here is my response.
If you have not heard who leads the numbers on welfare, then grab your buddies and make a b-line to the welfare office and find out for yourself you ignorant wanna be slave owner. Yes, I have white friends whom I would never ask their opinions on someone like you. They would be on here tearing a hole in your a* for the stupid remarks you are making. As for blacks being stupid….hmmm you only wish that was true huh? Well white trash it’s not. You would be surprised of all the inventions that black people created. I guess you need a black history lesson. I bet you would love a thug to rape you huh? That’s what soft boys who wear rainbow colors as yourself wants.
Send Money, don’t talk about it, be about it. You may not agree with what I’m saying, but it proves my point that people like WT can get on here and have you think it’s okay to spew his garbage. The guilty is what the guilty does. White Trash is guilty for being loco anf stupid!
By Fans with $hit for brains +sports writer
May 6, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this
The redneck sports writer are out to destroy Mike Vick. AJC sport ESPN radio ( the heard) Dan packet espn fox all come with a redneck point of view! They have a smear campaign That all it can be, from before the super bowl till now on pure gossip. Vick has never been locked up but the media is sure as HELL trying with all there might to make it happen!
By Ken Strickland
May 6, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
With GJackson all but gone, and RColeman injured, I wonder if the Falcons will now try to sign DT Ian Scott. We all know how injuries affected the team under Mora and friends. If Petrino can overcome these injuries, it will provide us with a stronger bench. It will also give us a peek at our likely future starting D, providing we sign Scott. DE’s-Anderson, Coleman, DT’s-Scott, Babineaux. That would give us a very quick, fast, and athletic DL. Coleman is past his prime, and has become injury prone the last few yrs, both on and off the field. By the time DWilliams is back in the starting lineup, we will an experienced rookie LB coming off the bench.
If LB Nicholas does as well as a rookie as Boley and DWilliams, we could be witnessing the end of an era with Brookings. His contract is up in 08, and the team might try to get something for him in a trade before then. The team is actually set at OLB with DWiliams and Boley as starters, and Nicholas and Wilkes as primary backups. With Beck as the backup MLB, Brookings is just on FA signing, or draft pick from being expendable. What do you Falcon fans think?
By Send Money
May 6, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
Dean Don’t talk about it, be about it ? I am being about free speech and the american way.If you don’t like what you read on these post contact ajc and ask them to ban some ip addresses using the most offensive language.A person has a right to free speech but the ajc has a right to allow or disallow these postings.Let me say again being right and having rights are two different things,and you’re view of sensorship is the danger to our way of life,not a few backward morons.Lastly I think Vick was involved in this dog fighting and if it’s proven he should never play another down in the nfl.
By The Dean 21
May 6, 2007 10:50 PM | Link to this
Ken, IAN SCOTT signed with the EAGLES a couple of days ago. He is no longer a choice for the Falcons. They better find a veteran DT or go kiss and make up with Grady, although I don’t see that happening.
By The Dean 21
May 6, 2007 11:04 PM | Link to this
Hey STUPID POWER that’s WHITE! First of all, how dare you try to critic my words when this is not a spelling bee you idiot. We are grown men talking on what suppose to be a Football blog, but noooooo your dumb a* want to make it about race. So the next three post from me are dedicated only to you and then I’m done with your stupid a* no matter color you are! IF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD IDIOT, THERE IS SUCH A THING CALLED A TYPO AND SINCE YOU WANT TO GRADE ME ON ANF (WHEN PLAINLY THE INCORRECT KEY WAS PRESSED TO STATE AND. iF YOU CAN’T FIGURE THAT MUCH OUT IDIOT, THEN STOP READING ON HERE BECAUSE TRUST ME THERE ARE A LOT OF TYPOS HERE, BUT MOST MEN DON’T ACT LIKE A F* OR A RAINBOW WRIST BAND WEARING SUCKER AND START CRYING ABOUT IT. WE SIMPLY MOVE ON! NOW SINCE YOU GOT NERVES TO BE CALLING PEOPLE MONKEY AND APES, CHECK YOU MOMMA FIRST, BECAUSE SHE SURELY HAD SEX WITH AN APE TO BORN YOUR MONKEY A*! ON WITH PROOF ABOUT THE WELFARE DEBATE SINCE YOU ARE DAMN LAZY TO SEARCH YOURSELF AND MORE THAN LIKELY TOO EMBARRASSED TO FIND OUT…LOL IN MY NEXT 2 POST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE KEEPING COUNT SUCK WARD? THIS IS POST NUMBER ONE DEDICATED TO YOU AND THE NEXT TWO ARE FOR YOU ALSO. OKAY?
By The Dean 21
May 6, 2007 11:08 PM | Link to this
Since you got the nerve to ask for proof from the DEAN, then the DEAN will give you proof you lazy pecker wood, no cooking, pink wearing sissy!
proof #1 Myth: People on welfare are usually black, teenage mothers who stay on ten years at a time.
Fact: Most welfare recipients are non-black, adult and on welfare less than two years at a time.
Summary
According to the statistics, whites form the largest racial group on welfare; half of all welfare recipients leave in the first two years; and teenagers form less than 8 percent of all welfare mothers.
Argument
Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:
Traits of families on AFDC (1)
RaceWhite 38.8% Black 37.2 Hispanic 17.8 Asian 2.8 Other 3.4
By The Dean 21
May 6, 2007 11:13 PM | Link to this
Oh by the way Stupid White Power, this is post #3 and with that I’m done with you! Please don’t concern yourself with the Falcons because we don’t want or need fans or idiots like you!
You don’t know s** about Football, so relax in your 1 bedroom trailor in that lovely trailer park and eat crow!
Proof #2 The untold story: whites and welfare by Muriel L. Whetstone
Find More Results for: “whites on welfare ” Who gets welfare?… Reforming welfare… Minnesota / Tackling… Rampant fraud in… It has become almost acceptable to characterize welfare recipients as irresponsible, negligent baby-breeders on a free ride, courtesy of the taxpaying public. Popular portrayals are of mothers dependent on the government for support, who breed babies for the sole purpose of collecting undeserved welfare checks. And what is implied—if not overtly expressed—by social scientists, politicians, the media, and many Americans is that the vast majority of these women are Black. “It’s clear that welfare has a Black face,” says Dr. Mary Frances Berry, chairperson of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. “Whenever you see television or news shows about welfare, only occasionally will they show someone who is not African-American,” she says. “The assumption is that when you speak of welfare, you’re speaking of Black people.” The facts, however, reveal an entirely different picture that underscores the difference between the rhetoric that would have one believe that most welfare recipients are Black and the reality that the majority of them are White. “I think welfare and crime are two of what I call ‘racially loaded’ issues,” says Dr. Ronald Walters, chairman of the political science department at Howard University. “The social function that they perform is that they give people a way to talk about race without actually articulating the concept. It’s a way of talking about Black people without actually saying ‘those Black people.’”
Racist attitudes notwithstanding, it is a matter of record that White mothers receive more than half of the checks distributed under the auspices of the Aid to Families with Dependent Children program—55.2 percent, compared to 39.2 percent received by Blacks. Additionally, the U.S. Census Bureau reported in February that during an average month in 1990, 61 percent of major assistance program participants were White, compared to 34 percent who were African-American
NOW UNDERSTAND THAT SUCKER!!!!!!!!!
By WhitePower
May 7, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
AngryApeMan: Couldn’t resist showing your stupidity could you? So, you reply to my jokes, by posting “white” jokes? Clever. Good response. That definitely shows your third level education.
Keep my what out of who? Another clever line. It’s funny to see how low monkeys will go to show just how dumb they really are.
Whites have not been oppressed? Exactly, that’s my point. We own your ape butt. There’s a reason we’ve never been oppressed, it’s because we own you and always will. If you don’t believe me, let me get my whip and we’ll see who’s boss.
Now get back to cleaning my toilet before I have to beat you again. Sucks to be owned doesn’t it?
HOLLA APES
By Nookah
May 7, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
This blog has become ridiculous. It was set up, I assume, as one for Falcons fans who want to discuss football.
This is despicable. Thanks for turning me off. I guess I’ll continue to support the Falcons but not read the blogs. However, thanks to the few who made it enjoyable and really had good comments on the Falcons.
Nuff Respect!! GO FALCONS!!!
By Ken Strickland
May 7, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
AN ANGRY BLACK MAN, let’s return this blog back to the discussion of intelligent football. Besides, these IGNORANT ANAL MINDED TRAILER MONKEYS are only going to keep repeating the same racist rhetoric. It’s time to leave these ignorant relics to themselves.
THE DEAN 21, thanks for the info. I was unaware of the Ian Scott signing at the time I posted. To tell the truth, I know nothing about Scott’s, nor Bryant’s abilities as DT’s. We signed Bryant off waivers recently. We could get lucky, like we did with GJackson, and sign a quality DT after June 1. I certainly hope so. Also, another yr of experience might significantly improve the development of Shropshire, TJackson and Babineaux, who knows. We don’t know what Zimmer’s DEF scheme is going to require. Therefore, we won’t know the impact of Colemans loss. DWilliams’ loss might have a greater impact than Coleman’s.
I’d really like to know the scouting report on the two OL from Louisville we just signed as FA’s. Can anyone suggest a site I can access to acquire that info?
By Red from My Neck Down
May 7, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Whats your question about Vick? Nazi Boy.
By Red from My Neck Down
May 7, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
I tell ya what Jiz stain, why dont you thrown on your jack boots, jump into your 1982 Yugo and meet me down behind the Walton High School gym and you can see for yourself if I am indeed balck or not.
I stand corrected when I said that you could get others from the KKK,Aryan Nation and the Neo-Nazis to join your circle of retarts, becasue you would’nt even be good enough to join one of there groups. You’re to much of a coward, at least they dont hide behind blog pages with anonymous names, they are openly racists and biggots, you’re a closet biggot.
I bet your Mama is real proud of you, Too bad the best part of you ran down the crack of her A$$ and ended up as a brown stain on the bed.
By Red from My Neck Down
May 7, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
ApeHater or WhitePower…. whoever you really want to be, sounds like you have an identity crisis to me.
You know who you remind me of ? that little Korean bioy who killed all those kids up at Va Tech. Go back and read some of your posts. Anything sound familiar? You both have a lot in common, both filled with hate, you both are cowards and you both are social rejects.
By Red from My Neck Down
May 7, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Hey WhiteApe…….. I got up off my lazy A$$ and scolled up to one of your ramblings and I found the question you wanted an answer for.
The answer is zero, Now how many back to back winning seasons have the Falcons had under the White Head Coach Mora?
By The Dean 21
May 7, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
Angry, Listed below was my post to the blog clown named white trash power!
I gave him/her several facts and still this ignorant clown didn’t want to believe it…
By The Dean 21
May 6, 2007 11:13 PM | Link to this
Oh by the way Stupid White Power, this is post #3 and with that I’m done with you! Please don’t concern yourself with the Falcons because we don’t want or need fans or idiots like you! You don’t know s** about Football, so relax in your 1 bedroom trailor in that lovely trailer park and eat crow!
Proof #2 The untold story: whites and welfare by Muriel L. Whetstone
Find More Results for: “whites on welfare ” Who gets welfare?… Reforming welfare… Minnesota / Tackling… Rampant fraud in… It has become almost acceptable to characterize welfare recipients as irresponsible, negligent baby-breeders on a free ride, courtesy of the taxpaying public. Popular portrayals are of mothers dependent on the government for support, who breed babies for the sole purpose of collecting undeserved welfare checks. And what is implied—if not overtly expressed—by social scientists, politicians, the media, and many Americans is that the vast majority of these women are Black. “It’s clear that welfare has a Black face,” says Dr. Mary Frances Berry, chairperson of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. “Whenever you see television or news shows about welfare, only occasionally will they show someone who is not African-American,” she says. “The assumption is that when you speak of welfare, you’re speaking of Black people.” The facts, however, reveal an entirely different picture that underscores the difference between the rhetoric that would have one believe that most welfare recipients are Black and the reality that the majority of them are White. “I think welfare and crime are two of what I call ‘racially loaded’ issues,” says Dr. Ronald Walters, chairman of the political science department at Howard University. “The social function that they perform is that they give people a way to talk about race without actually articulating the concept. It’s a way of talking about Black people without actually saying ‘those Black people.’”
Racist attitudes notwithstanding, it is a matter of record that White mothers receive more than half of the checks distributed under the auspices of the Aid to Families with Dependent Children program—55.2 percent, compared to 39.2 percent received by Blacks. Additionally, the U.S. Census Bureau reported in February that during an average month in 1990, 61 percent of major assistance program participants were White, compared to 34 percent who were African-American
NOW UNDERSTAND THAT SUCKER!!!!!!!!!
By Falcon
May 7, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
I love your post that you wouldn’t make these statements in person outside of the security of anonymous poison on a sports post because someone would beat you silly. At least your have admitted you live your life in fear. This must be difficult to live with for a self described superior being. News Flash - Your I.P. address is captured every time you post one of your statements and can be traced back to you directly via your ISP or Work address (It would be delicious if you somehow got fired for this as well)so you’re not really anonymous. It will be a shame when this is “accidentally” leaked to the community at large. To watch the beatings you’ll take would be high comedy. Also, genius, keep in mind that hate speech is not protected under the constitution so maybe the AJC will choose civil action that will punish you financially as well. I guess you’ll be wishing that simply being white put you in the F500.
By The Dean 21
May 7, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
Ken, When do you think they will release that awesome cornerback that was burned so much last year that he stayed hurt>? You know (Mr.Webster). I see they released Beverly today which was to be expected. I assume they are waiting after mini-camp to address the DT situation?
By Falcon
May 7, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
In a hilarious twist of fate, I just rec’d a CLE forum from Emory detailing “The Legal Impact of Employee Blogging” I forwarded this blog so that hopefully it will be used as an example during the class. I am sure that in a room full of lawyers, there will be at least one who would see an opportunity to pull back your hood for publicity and/ or money. So I guess it’s you who better hope to be using someone else’s library card.