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Either way, Mora call will be tough
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The Falcons playoff/non-playoff hopes could be determined before they even take the field Sunday at Philadelphia. Should the Giants beat Washington or Carolina knock off New Orleans, the Falcons will be out by 4 p.m. Sunday.
The biggest issue is the future of coach Jim Mora. He will hardly be judged by this one game, but if he wins and the Falcons get into the playoffs, it would be hard to justify firing a guy who got the team into postseason twice in three years.
If the Falcons don’t get into the playoffs, don’t look for owner Arthur Blank to fire Mora just to fire him. The big question is a replacement. Would Pittsburgh’s Ken Whisenhunt, USC’s Pete Carroll or Tennessee’s Norm Chow be an upgrade?
Maybe, but would Blank be willing to take that risk, have a lot of dead money on the coaching payroll and wait a year or two for those guys to establish themselves? Then again, if the Falcons lose Sunday, that would be two years of regression following the 2004 season, when hopes were raised only to have them dashed by an 8-8 2005.
If Bill Cowher or Jeff Fisher or someone of that ilk becomes available, which is unlikely, a change is almost a certainty.
One thing that is likely is that if Mora is retained, some of his assistants, including offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and defensive coordinator Ed Donatell, would be asked to leave by people over Mora. Whether Mora would be willing to do that, especially to his friend Knapp, is a tough call. Mora is very loyal and might refuse, forcing his firing/resignation.
Personally, all I have been told is that Blank has not made up his mind. However, the fact that he’s even considering firing Mora isn’t good for the head coach. Mora’s radio interview in which he said he would take the U. of Washington job, even if he was joking like he says he was, did major damage.
Still, Blank is pretty thorough and I’m sure he’s pouring over Mora’s complete body of work. Sunday’s outcome could make things easier or more difficult but the early part of next week should be very interesting in terms of the direction the Falcons are headed in.




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Comments
By Ron Mexico
December 29, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
**Call me the “COACH KILLA!”
By A
December 29, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
Wait till Sunday night first , we could win ?!!
By Bruce
December 29, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this
The only “Coach Killer” that you can identify is the mouth of both Mora Sr and Mora Jr.
By Birdy
December 29, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this
Mora brings no special advantages to the team. He does not hols players accountable, referring to be a PLAYERS COACH instead of a TEAM COACH that places the organization’s needs FIRST.
He condones a ridiculous NO AUDIBLE policy that deliberately hamstrings his own team. The franchise QB was the most efficient passer in NCAA history as a freshman while calling audibles frequently, he operated in the shotgun both in college and in the NFL before Mora and his egotistical cohort Kanapp arrived on scene. Yet it took 1/2 a season for them to implement the shotgun here and we still do not allow the greatest improvising QB the league has seen to start his improvisation prior to the snap.
Mora’s dad spoke from “secret conversations”. Knapp clearly does not trust the franchise QB to do what even rookie QBs are entrusted with who meet other profiles in other more enlightened organizations.
Mora received the ultimate vote of confidence — twice — by Arthur Blank: first, he was hired into the position when more accomplished candidates were readily available. We all know what they are. And second, even after a collosal flop in the second half last year, he received an unheard of extension which solidified his family’s financial future.
As Chairmen of the NFL’s “diversity committee” at the time, Blank and McKay certainly raised more than a few eyebrows with the bumping of Mora to the top of the falcons list (Ever seen the demographic profile in the Dome on Sundays?).
But surely, the various risks would be worth it because he talked so smoothly in the interview, they must have thought.
Well how did Mora repay this confidence, this trust, this risk-taking on his behalf by the billionaire? He goes on the radio and makes a complete joke of Blank, the team and everyone else on staff who depends on his would-be professionalism. And he did so right before a nationally televised contest when the team was fighting for its playoff lives.
And this is someone who deserves this position?
Donatell was fired in ignominy, yet Emmit Thomas was demoted to make room for him. In fact, they fell all over themselves bidding against Dan Snyder to get this guy who gave up 4th and 26 to Freddie Mitchell of all people.
Does anyone think Greg Knapp, Ed Donatell or Jim Mora will go to another team in their current capacities and lead a team to a championship?
Is there any EVIDENCE the last 3 years to suggest this? That we would somehow “regret” releasing all three of them?
No one will miss these under-qualified products of nepotism and cronyism.
Get somebody in here who has proven their mettle by performance, not a product of privilige.
By Dawgs2006
December 29, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this
Arthur Blank is a fool! He sold a load a crap and we all bought into it. We are no better as a team or organization than when the Smith’s were in control.
I want my money back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By It's Me
December 29, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
Based on comments coming out of the locker room, I wouldn’t mind if Mora stayed. The players feel comfortable with him but it appears they have no faith in the system. Before we look outside of the Org, look at Musgrave. He has done good by Vick and knows his strengths and weakness. A modified version of what we currently run might be answer. Get more quick passes installed and let the “skill players’ do their job. Builds confidence of Vick and the offense. The defense justs a good defensive backs coach so we can send more guys after quarterback. There seems to be no confidence in anyone other than D’Hall. Blank or Mora, call me….I gotcha covered
By Birdy
December 29, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this
Since Knapp obviously did not believe in the mental capacity of the franchise QB of the atlanta Falcons even before coming here in 2004, why did he bother to take the job in the first place? If he would have been more comfortable with another QB, why didn’t he go to another franchise and coordinate it into the ground instead?
Jeff Garcia’s passer rating in San Fran:
2000: 97.6 2001: 94.8 <— Knapp’s first year 2002: 85.6 2003: 80.1 <— Knapp and Garcia’s last year in SF
Knapp = the QB Killer, based on his record.
And he sold this “performance” to an NFL franchise?
By Larry
December 29, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this
Steve,
Your naivety is either amazing or intentional. We know Mora spoke favorably about you in his Seattle address, but this isn’t just about wins, loses or playoff scenarios. This is about character.
Those empty seats that you and Arthur blank witnessed last Sunday were the collective voices of Falcon fans screaming “we want a professional football team in Atlanta again like we had when Leeman Bennet was our coach…we will no longer patronize a coach who snorts ammonia with players, kisses player’s helmets, curses profusely in public interviews, and promotes himself for another job moments before one of the biggest games of the year.”
Personally, after 17 years as a season ticket holder and Falcon fan since their first game, I can sincerely say this was the first year I had little desire to attend a game because our team’s leadership. You can count me as a season ticket renewal should Blank end this fiasco and hire a winner, personally and professionally, like Jim Tressel of Ohio State. You can count me out if Mora is retained.
As for Greg Knapp, even if he were released, I for one will always wonder what he may have accomplished with a real NFL QB providing balance to his offense. I’d bet the mortgage he privately would love the freedom to give Schaub—perhaps even Shockley—an opportunity prove his system works. His is a quick thinking, decisive offense, geared toward a QB’s ability to see, read, react & deliver. Unfortunately, he is handcuffed to a short, fast guy who can throw a long tight spiral.
Come on Steve, stop throwing soft balls! Have some courage!
By larry w.
December 29, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
Well said Birdy! I couldn’t agree with you more. And to add to your well written post, Mora allowed his first round rookie DB to start the season on the bench behind his old pal Jason Webster. Even though Webster was every team’s whipping boy, the only thing that got him out of the lineup was an injury. So does Mora start Williams at that point? No! He starts Allen Rossum instead, while the kid continued to sit on the bench. His excuse was that Williams was hurt. But even after being declared ready to go, Rossum still started. Decisions like these are among the many reasons that I feel Mora should go.
By Birdy
December 29, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this
Garcia’s passer rating profile re-posted for formatting clarity.
2000: 97.6
2001: 94.8 <— Knapp’s first year
2002: 85.6
2003: 80.1 <— Knapp and Garcia’s last year in SF
This is the body of work of the “great” Knapp. What standards was he held to in hiring him?
By John from Dunwoody
December 29, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this
ONCE AGAIN, VICK WILL BE OUTPLAYED BY THE OPPOSING TEAM’S BACKUP QB.
By Great Falconi
December 29, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
If the Falcons do the expected Sunday and lose to the Eagles, this basically means the team has quit on Mora two years in a row. That would be a lusty 2-6 in the final eight games (6-2 star) last year and 2-7 in the final nine games (5-2 start) this year. There is no way that Arthur Blank could justify not firing Mora along with the rest of the coaching staff. A head coach that has most of his staff gutted is a lame duck, so why give the man another year? So his team can quit on him for a third straight year?
If Mora is back next year, I will be rooting for a bad year so we can get a real head coach. I’m a Dawgs fan and I did it with Ray “Goof” and dammit, I’ll do it again with Mora. He is a punchline in this town and he has no business sullying the Falcons’ sideline with his ammonia hits and ineptitude next season.
Period. End of story.
By John from Dunwoody
December 29, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
THEY SHOULD MOVE ALLEN ROSSUM TO QB TO TAKE OVER FOR VICK. WOULD PROVIDE AN INSTANT UPGRADE.
By John from Dunwoody
December 29, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
FALCONS FANS SHOULD WISH FOR ONE OF THE TWO OR BOTH OF THE FOLLOWING TO HAPPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. UNTIL THIS HAPPENS, THE FALCONS WILL NEVER BE A TRUE THREAT:
1) THE FALCONS MOVE AND ARE REPLACED WITH AN EXPANSION TEAM.
2) THE FALCONS DUMP MICHAEL VICK AND START FROM SCRATCH.
By The voice of Reason
December 29, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
Don’t get me wrong, I believe a firing is in order for the Atlanta coaching staff… but I’m not sure Mora needs to go (yet). It goes without saying that different coaches have different preferences when it comes to systems. Although I am underwhelmed by the cast of characters Mora and friends have assembled, I think it is only reasonable that the coordinators should be booted before Mora gets shown the door. See if he still stinks with a new set of coordinators before you put him in front of the firing squad.
By Jborodawg
December 29, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this
How about Steve Wyche’s column today? It’s a rundown of the coaches and players Wyche rates all the players as excellent or very good. Hmmm.
By keeping it real
December 29, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this
Look as if they are going to keep the cut block scheme. If they do we will have another bad year! we need big player on both sides of the line. People this is a management call on this scheme and it is flawed. Alix Gibb must go. This scheme is a team killer!I said it all last year before the season started this would be this team down fall. People this where game are won and lost. How many games that this team could not get 4th and 1 this year. Take Vick 1000 yards out this year and the run game suxs. Get us some hogs on both side of the line with speed! There is very little pass blocking!Fire this scheme first please!
By savannah foulcoon
December 29, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this
i’m a honky (well, mostly as i hear) and i like vick.
dunno what went wrong with most of this season but the cincinnatti and pittsburgh games showcase what vick can be when it all comes together.
sigh.
four decades of hopes…
By Casey
December 29, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
Keep Mora. Head coaching changes can sometimes have positive results, but more times than not, it’s negative. Players wanting out will be one of them. I say fire Knapp and Donatell and hopefully Mora will go along with it like a TEAM coach he needs to be. Then, go out and get another “heavy hitter” that we lost when Duckett left. (especially if Dunn may have played his final game with Atlanta) We just don’t have that back that gets the tough yards. If we can get some coaches that can utilize all of the weapons we have on both sides of the ball and a hard nosed runner to compliment Norwood’s speed, we will be back among the elite!
By Larry
December 29, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
Jborodawg,
If Steve Wyche considers it a “tough” decision about Mora, his ratings of players are meaningless.
By Tmac
December 29, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
I am a Mike Vick supporter. But if Mike is the offense’s problem then a head coach should have the balls to sit him down and start the backup. The same goes with defense. Hartwell should not be starting, any coach can see this. Now we are on the verge of loosing one of our best linebackers to free agency in Demorio Williams. Players are unhappy and we don’t know what the players really say about their coaches when no reporters or cameras are around. I bet it’s not pretty.
By Koach Killa
December 29, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
Killed Reeves, now Mora. Who beez next?
By Steve T
December 29, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
The problem is the falcons need an OC that can call plays that convert those 1 yard situations. If the falcons could have converted those situations who know what would have happened.
Also, the OC needs to be ask how he did use Justin more. He scored 3 TDs against Dallas, but we did not see him much last week. Why? Everyone in Atlanta should be asking Knapp that question. I read an article where they want to resign him and it also mention that he was used enough. If I was Blank, I would demand that Justin get at least 20 touches a game.
Now let’s talk about a players coach. I would call Fisher a players coach. Why? he let his players have input. If he needs to sign someone, he ask the team about certain players. VY is having some say in the offense. Vick wanted to right to change plays. Fisher would have listen. Knapp can get Vick 3 plays and let him make the call at the line. Coaches watch film all week; therefore they have a good chance to know what the other team might do. He can say Vick if they line up like this, I want you to attack the defense this way. For example, when Vick is healthy, I would have him run a sneak when they crowd the line. The only two people that would know the ball is being snapped is Vick and the center.
A player coach listen to his players.
By GT Baby
December 29, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this
Easy enough.Jim Mora signed his ticket out of here with his “Washington HC job” fiasco.Knapp is not cutting it(what a suprise).Donatell we should keep.Lets get some coaches that will listen to there qb’s and let them have some input.Then if that doesnt work say good-bye m-vick.Blank will fire Mora,Knapp he just wanted to wait until after the season (this sunday)to make the anouncement
By Jack
December 29, 2006 07:27 PM | Link to this
If Mora stays - watch the season ticket sales plummet. Problem is THEN will be too late and another year wasted. Shortly we will see if Arthur has balls of steel or cotton balls
By Drez
December 29, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this
You hear a lot of talk about replacing Knapp and Donatell and keeping Mora. What great OC & DC are out there that will leave their current positions to come work under Jim MORon? Any names?
By dirrtybird
December 29, 2006 07:50 PM | Link to this
Drez makes a great point. What good OC and DC wants to come work for Mora? The players may like him, but I doubt he’s highly revered among coaches. It seems like you gotta clean house and wipe the slate clean with coaches. Of course you keep Joe D. and probably Musgrave too. Mora, Knapp, and Donatell. Not so much. The record speaks for itself. I was a Mora supporter too. He may get another coaching job one day, but he has a lot of maturing to do. He’s a good guy, but just not ready to be a head coach. Look at how our team has completely unfolded the past two years in a row. Injuries or not. Look at the Eagles. That’ the difference that coaching makes.
By Larry
December 29, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this
Drez,
Likewise, what “great OC” would leave his current position to move to Atlanta to coach a short, fast, dumb guy who can throw a long, tight spiral?
By Zenith
December 29, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this
Like a bad marriage the Falcons, and by extension their fans (HA HA), are constantly involved no matter what in the same arguement. With the same dumb fans.
Blank isn’t going to bring back a guy that he fired (Reeves). Q. Vick’s impact on the salary cap? A. Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones.
The salary cap is Alice in Wonderland. It means what the monied owners say that it means, nothing more, nothing less.
You win on defense. Where’s the defense? No head coach will fire both coordinators and no owner will ask him to do so. It esmasculates the coach, for the rednecks it means neuter, like on the ranch.
Blank wants a stadium. He’s willing to take a big bite of it but he ain’t begging. Easier to do if seats are filled. People come to see Vick with the Falcons. Easier to find someone who can get the best out of Vick than to move Vick.
Get real, stop the insults and fighting and maybe actually go out to one of the games. They’re better in person.
By Birdy
December 29, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this
Any team that deliberately makes itself the smallest at RB and Oline apparently doesn’t even want to be competitive in the latter half of the season.
What kind of coaching staff would plan on using 170 lb soft-running Warrick Dunn in short yardage or in games it is clear he is ducking down early giving less than 100% on runs? I wish we faced RBs who ends their own runs at the first sign of contact. Why can’t Arthur Blank’s $5 million back “finish” runs like a Pro?
Marion Barber ran all over us with speed and power. Maybe if he were Dunn we might have won that Cowboy game.
By long time falcon
December 29, 2006 09:28 PM | Link to this
Birdy, look at the writing on the wall. Three of our midget lineman were re-signed to long term contract extensions during the season. What does this mean? Not only are they committed to the cut block scheme, but if we get a new coach he will have to adapt his philosphy to fit this ridiculous scheme. I think blank has his big nose to deep in this franchise football related matters. He is just as meddlesome as jerry jones and dan snider, yet he does it more of an understated type of way, behind the scenes if you will. I am seriously concerned about the direction of this franchise even if they fire all the coaches. The coaches are only half the blame, the rest should fall at the feet of blank and his right hand man mcKay. In fairness to Mora ,the cut block scheme was not his idea, it was more of ” consensus decision”. Remember when blank was looking for a coach, he said he wanted a”consensus guy”. In other words he wanted a puppet he could control. A lot of the bad decisions this franchise has made are not the fault of the coaching staff. And believe me I’m not defending mora, in fact, I hope they fire him. I just happen to see a lot more problems coming from the top than most.
By Boots
December 29, 2006 09:32 PM | Link to this
Mora will buy himself another year by throwing the OC, DC and possibly others under the bus —- just like the players are trying to do to the coaching staff. My guess is Bland will wait until an effective OC is in place before he fires Mora. At least then he’ll have a replacement. It’s gonna get ugly.
By dirty byrd
December 29, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this
so just like the sadam story execution is only a day a way 2007 brings more new problems for sure just hope i can stand to watch it all. this year has been very hard on ALL US TRUE FANS
new this new that more of the other and a couple new ideas sounds good to me what new faces are in store on sidelines cant be any worse than this last 2 yrs ROCK ON YOU DIRTY BIRDS !!!
By Mean D
December 29, 2006 09:42 PM | Link to this
They don’t allow Ron Mexico to audible because he is an IDIOT. They had to simplify the offense because this stinking in public, cornrowed, herpes ridden, illiterate MORON couldn’t figure it out.
Yeah, fools. Get a new HC and OC and let DJ Herpes audible. If you think this was a pathetic season, you haven’t seen nothing.
By tim
December 29, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this
I hope Arthur gets some balls and get rid of Mora and staff.I don’t know about everybody else,but I can’t take another season of watching the falcons play like they are lost,soft,no confidences and have no heart.Mora is just to soft and childlike to coach a professional team.I know for a fact,if Mora get one more year head coaching the falcons,this franchise would be hurt for years to come.The falcons get a coach who wants to win and can’t accept losing then the players we get some confidences and they will respect him and play at their best ability.Mora and staff gots to go.
By Theking
December 29, 2006 09:49 PM | Link to this
From what I hear FRANK BEAMER has been talking with Blank this week. Beamer ball in Atlanta next season?
By Mean D
December 29, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this
“Theking” should change his name to “Stinking”. Beamer will NEVER come to coach these worthless turds.
By keeping it real
December 29, 2006 10:11 PM | Link to this
By mean D Did mike take you woman. You hate the guy. Just because he plays football. What player would want to come to Georgia and play for this team with fans like you. Have you ever met Vick? would you want any body talking about you mother or brother like you are doing? You reap what you sow!
By Bigboi
December 29, 2006 10:19 PM | Link to this
Beamer makes sense. There are like 5 V Tech players on the team and he knows how to motivate players
By Papa
December 29, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this
Let him go to Washinton. Fire the sissy.
By Mean D
December 29, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this
To “keeping it real”: Where did you go to school?!?! You can’t even speak basic proper English. Yes, it is total MORANS like “keeping it real” (what a cool name, right? Bet this Bozo thinks so.) that keep supporting the stinking, cornrowed, herpes ridden, biggest bust trade of the NFL year after year. Any FOOL that thinks this loser is worth LaDanian Tomlinson AND Drew Brees needs a CAT scan. Somebady please explain what that is to “copping a feel”.
By vickisick
December 29, 2006 10:48 PM | Link to this
the fact that the falcons are keeping offensive lineman who have given up 40+ sacks in consecutive years says a lot about how stubborn mckay and co. are. wtf? pass first philosophy would be nice braniacs. vick runs enough on passing plays
By keeping it real
December 29, 2006 10:51 PM | Link to this
Mean d I ASK A question would you like some one talking about you mother or brother like you are doing?
By Jimmy the Geek
December 29, 2006 10:56 PM | Link to this
You’re all pathetic losers, just like yout team. Get a life.
By TEEDY JACK EDDY
December 29, 2006 11:05 PM | Link to this
First I think Mora is likely coaching his last game for the birds,so I,ll work on that premise.Whisenhunts’ offense in pitt is very differant than anything Vick has run or that suits the players on this team.Chow is a great offensive coordinator but is completely untested as a head man.Carroll I would offer! he has great energy,great success on the college level and never got the chance to complete the job as a pro,he is a players coach but seems in control at all times.That said the likely place for Carroll to be next year is back with usc or in Phoenix,it gets very iffy after that,give me some ideas please.
By Mean D
December 29, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this
Dear “copping a feel”: “Talking about you mother or brother”??? Firstly, where were you educated? I want those tax dollars back because you are an idiot. Secondly, show me one thing I have said about Ron Mexico’s mother or brother. I haven’t mentioned them, braintrust. Now, does he have cornrows? Does he have herpes? Is he a loser as a QB? Was it a bust getting him for LT and Brees? Can you deny any of these things. The guy is a loser chump and a coach killer.
By hall blows
December 29, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this
i just read the comment that hall was not impressed with williams yet. who does hall think he is he would not be able to cover his own grandma let alone anyone else. if he would just shut up he might be able to keep people from scoring on him. everyone who has been against him has torched him he is shot,i. dumd nig
By keeping it real
December 29, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this
Is Hate Basic and Proper To to you ? What school is teaching you hate. you sound like some kid. Does your mother know what you are written on this blog. My grammar my not be the best but my heart is not full of hate when you never met the man! That is evil and sick! Hate is not cool!You may feel this about Vick but that don’t make it so. That just how you feel. Next time you go to a Falcon Game look at all the number 7’s in the stands .When Vick is on the road look and see how Manny people come to see him play. Mr. Blank is making money and so is the nfl.Vick has 130 million reason Mean D he is here to stay. Ask the NFL do they need a cat scan for the money they are making because he play in the NFL ! What are you making!
By Mean D
December 29, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this
Yo, ho, Ron Mexico. With you at QB we will always blow. Yo, ho, Ron Mexico. Where do you get those bad cornrows? Yo, ho, Ron Mexico. You for LT was a GD joke. Yo, ho, Ron Mexico. 130 mil yet you play like a hoe.
By Mean D
December 29, 2006 11:37 PM | Link to this
I am sorry “copping a feel” but I just can’t debate someone so idiotic as to print “Does your mother know what you are written on this blog”. You, sir, are an idiot.
I saw Mr. Mexico play in 4 stadiums this year. Only in this town does anyone hang on to a shred of hope that after 5 years of mediocrity does this clown have any hope of EVER earning his 130 mil. Everyone else know that that’s a joke - and what has killed the falcons salary cap.
Go back to school, fool. I have never met Vick but I know he has cornrows and herpes and stinks in public. I have never met you but I know that you can’t speak or write the English language.
You are out of your league, chump. Stick to debating people as stupid as yourself.
By keeping it real
December 29, 2006 11:44 PM | Link to this
Mead D you are what you are. You need JESUS!
By Mean D
December 29, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this
And you are what you are. A Ron Mexico apologist and an illiterate jackass.
By ShadyGrady
December 29, 2006 11:51 PM | Link to this
Mean D,
Why are you so emotional? Are you suffering from a case of dwarf penis? Are you panties too tight? I asked you earlier about your personal attacks on Mike Vick. Again, is he a thug because he threatened to harm you and/or someone close to you? Did he rob you of your personal belongings. Your rants cross the line. Maybe this is all stunting to live up to your label, “Mean D”. You miserable little pu$$y.
By TIM DAWG
December 30, 2006 12:01 AM | Link to this
Mean D is a loser. No one pay him any attention. It is 11:22 on friday night and Mean D. has nothing better to do than act like a sexually repressed man lover. Mean D., is it just me or is there an awful amount of homoerotic sexual tension between you and Mr. Vick? I have never seen a man obsess on the appearance of another man quite like you do. Keep pretending to be a Falcons fans and keep telling us that trading Vick for LT was a GD joke. As Falcons fan, Vick has given us a higher winning percentage than Tomlinson has given his team even with Brees, Merriman, and Gates as teammates, Vick has led the team to 2 playoff victories and a conference championship game, Tomlison has appeared in only one playoff game (a game the chargers lost, tomlinson’s chargers are 0-1 n playoff games with tomlinson as running back (again evven though he had brees as QB, Gates as TE, better wide receivers than the falcons). SO, keep pretending that you are a falcons fan. The reality is that you are just a fantasy team geek who loves pretty stats but does not like to root for his own team to win. I and many others on here, while currently frustrated with Vick and the Falcons, still appreciate the 38-27-1 record vick has, the 28-10-1 stretch vick once went on before McKay, Blank and Mora destroyed the talent base Reeves had carefully developed.
By kg
December 30, 2006 12:01 AM | Link to this
Larry, Your comment about Knapp wishing Schab were his qb is ridiculous for a couple of reasons. First, with the way Knapp calls plays it doesn’t matter who his qb is. How smart does the qb need to be on first down to hand off to Dunn going off left tackle? Secondly, with their jobs on the line, do you really think they would keep Schaub on the bench if they felt that he could win them a game? If the coaches really felt that Schaub is a better qb, but didn’t put him in, then that tells me that they don’t have the courage to make the tough calls. All that matters is to win games. Tuna benched Drew for Romo. He also fired Vanderjac. Fisher benched Collins for a rookie. Shanahan benched Snake for Cutler. As coaches, its your job to make those decisions if you think it will win you some games. If Schaub is the better qb, then these coaches don’t deserve to keep their jobs.
By Bernie Kosar
December 30, 2006 12:01 AM | Link to this
Mean D, does need JESUS. Real bad. Read Psalm 33 and repent.
By Mean D
December 30, 2006 12:08 AM | Link to this
“are you panties too tight?”. An exact quote from ShadyGradytheilliterateLady. Seriously, is there anyone with a brain cell that wants to debate me on this subject. Debating illiterate idiots is getting old.
I ask again: Does Mr. Mexico have cornrows? Does Mr. Mexico stink often in public? Does Mr. Mexico have herpes? Was it a FOOLISH trade to give up LT for Mr. Mexico?
If you believe that the answer to any of these questions is “no” AND you have more than a 3rd grade education - let’s debate. But please, no more idiots that can’t speak. I’ll debate one of my dogs if it has to resort to that.
By Koach Killa
December 30, 2006 12:08 AM | Link to this
Mean D is just telling the truth. Too bad if you can’t handle it.
By Mean D
December 30, 2006 12:14 AM | Link to this
Okay, this Tim Dawg (or maybe Tim Dung) is also a foolish illiterate that can’t type proper English. But FINALLY I have found something that I agree with one of this moronic idiots about. He states that “McKay, Blank and Mora dstroyed the talent base that Reeves had carefully developed”. THIS IS TRUE!!!
But what also is true is that Tim Dung is a complete idiot. If you can not even speak properly don’t get on a blog. But he does have some bada$$ cornrows, homes.
By ShadyGrady
December 30, 2006 12:22 AM | Link to this
Punk
Do not get on this blog and act like an insufferable little b*** man with your below basement level emotional outbursts and then get all high and mighty about debating someone on points to your arguments. This blog is about the case for keeping or firing mora and his staff. Yet any chance you get you can can not resist your homoerotic rants about the smell of a man and his tresses. I bet you have a Vick “fat head” on your wall that you choke your poor little chicken over. You just wish he would come over and give you some “thug” love like you got in Catholic School. No answer, no hope. Your frustration is boiling over and now you must act out.
By bsd987
December 30, 2006 12:23 AM | Link to this
Why wasn’t Mora fired immediately after making those comments two weeks ago? Arthur Blank should have taken over as the interim head coach. I mean, he couldn’t be worse than 0-2 and also at least he has proven he can run a business. But whatever, we’re gonna get raped by Philadelphia and still have to deal with Mora….
By TIM DAWG
December 30, 2006 12:29 AM | Link to this
Mean D, you pointed out some grammatical errors on my part. It is just a blog, dude. BUT it is very funny that you lecture my on grammar issue but then you write yourself: “But FINALLY I have found something that I agree with one of this moronic idiots about. “
Professor Mean D, did you perhaps mean to say that you finally have found something that I agree with one of these moronic idiots about? LOL! There is a difference between this and these, you little troll. It is just a blog, dweeb. Mean D., Mr. Vick just called me and he says that he thinks your tractor is kind of sexy.
By Mean D
December 30, 2006 12:35 AM | Link to this
What a surprise! More BS out of ShadyGradytheIlliterateLady.
Yo, fool! I know you can’t speak or understand proper English but could you show me something I have posted that you consider “Homoerotic” - YOUR WORDS. You are clearly a sissy.
You are either a woman or a gay man to keep bringing this up. Mora WILL BE FIRED because Ron Mexico IS A COACH KILLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then when he stinks it up under a whole new coaching staff you illiterate, blind, kool-aid drinking idiots can come up with a whole new list of excuses as to why MC Cornrow stinks!
By Mean D
December 30, 2006 12:44 AM | Link to this
Congrats Tim Dung!!! I can’t believe you even caught that!!!
Don’t get me wrong, I want you illiterate fools to keep your cornrowed, stinking, herpes ridden hero. Even the f’ing Tampa Bay Bucs have a Super Bowl ring and 6 straight winning seasons. Falcons are MUCH older than the Bucs and don’t have BACK TO BACK winning seasons. And it’s this apologist acceptance of mediocrity that is to blame. 13 mil a year? Are you fools kidding yourselves???
By Ken Strickland
December 30, 2006 12:45 AM | Link to this
MEAN D seems you’re acting out and/or repressing some hidden feelings. You don’t really hate Vick, you hate yourself for having those repressed sexual feelings. You’re trying to villify Vick’s appearance so you won’t feel so attracted to him. How else do you explain so much hatred towards someone you admittedly don’t know, and has not directly affected you personally. On the other hand, if your hatred is generated from Vick’s QB performance, you are one emotional unstable, adolescent minded, repressed individual. I bet Vick makes you wish you were a tight end, and he would hit you with a hard one. GET SOME HELP MEAN D, AND COME ON OUT OF THAT CLOSET.
By ShadyGrady
December 30, 2006 12:56 AM | Link to this
You can not define illiterate. Nor do you have a good grasp on the Great British language. Just go ahead and get your jack-off on and get some rest. Hip-Hop has taken over. Even your mother is rapping now. And all your cousins can’t wait to get their tan on and cornrows in Jamaica.
By Mean D
December 30, 2006 12:59 AM | Link to this
Dear Ken Dickland, why can’t any of you fools debate on the level. Not once have I said that I think Mr. Mexico is a homosexual, yet you Mexico apologists bring up homosexuality over and over. NOW I know why you idiots keep defending a mediocre QB making 13 mil a year. You don’t really think he is worth a f* as a QB. You just want him naked in your beds.
Very appropriate for someone named Ken Dickland.
By Mean D
December 30, 2006 01:07 AM | Link to this
Dear ShadyGradytheIlliterateLady: That was brilliant! That was brilliant!!! How did you become a genius???
You are an idiot, fool, and you always will be. Rap took over Atlanta a long time ago. But go to Raleigh, Jacksonville, Tampa, etc. and your cornrowed a$$ will be laughed out of town.
Heil Bill Campbell!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Koach Killa
December 30, 2006 01:09 AM | Link to this
These pathetic people tie their self-worth to a 75IQ affirmative-action hero. Thank you Arthur Blank! Great move!
By ShadyGrady
December 30, 2006 01:13 AM | Link to this
Moaning Derierre,
You could not help but find “Dickland” in Strickland because that’s where you wish you could be when your click together the heels of your pretty little shiny red shoes.
By Mean D
December 30, 2006 01:15 AM | Link to this
Everyone is entitled to their opinion (even illiterate idiots). But for those who think getting MC Herpes for LaDanian Tomlinson and Drew Brees was a deal - jeez - God help ‘em.
By TIM DAWG
December 30, 2006 01:18 AM | Link to this
just come out of the closet already, mean d. we would all like and accept you if you just came out. none of us would mind. in fact, we would all be quite relieved about it because you would be a much happier, more pleasant guy to deal with. but this latent homoeroticism you continue to express is rather disturbing. no straight guy obsesses on the appearance of another man like you do without having a secret man crush on the guy you are hating on. and then when everyone on here teases you because we believe you are hiding in the closet, you only get angrier and more emotional which again only reveals how far in the closet you are hiding. just come out already, dude. you’ll be a much happier guy.
By Mean D
December 30, 2006 01:19 AM | Link to this
ShadyGradytheIlliteratelady, you have stumped me yet again. What in the f* are you trying to say, Gaylord?
By Ken Strickland
December 30, 2006 01:34 AM | Link to this
MEAN D, the issue isn’t about Vick’s sexuality, it’s about yours. You are one delusional little monkey if you think you have some kind of intellectual capacity. Your incessent negative ravings about Vicks’ phenotype has absolutely nothing to do with football, or his performance. You are dealing with very deeply repressed personal feelings towards Vick, and it is reflected in your responses. The truth hurts, which is why you are striking back at me.
By Najeh Davenpoop
December 30, 2006 01:37 AM | Link to this
The only thing tough about firing Mora will be wondering what this team could have done in the last three years if Lovie Smith was the head coach instead.
The only way Mora should be able to save his job this year is if he takes this team to the Super Bowl.
By ShadyGrady
December 30, 2006 01:41 AM | Link to this
Koach Killa,
It’s not about Mike Vick. My self worth is just that. And what does affirmative-action have to do with Mike Vick’s status. Mean D, Trust me. Even the good ole boys are listening to a good bit of rap now. From the backwoods to Croatia, from Tupeolo to Tunisia, Japan to Hooligan Bay they just can not get enough of that funky stuff. Now, the Falcons are a mess. The coaching, quarterbacking, blocking, receiving, pass defending, pass rushing, linebacking, etcetera. They are a complete and utter disappointment. It’s not just one player. It’s a collection of under performing talents in a flawed scheme, led by an ill-prepared head coach. It has nothing to do with cornrows and herpes. I doubt that Mike Vick has Yung Jeezy blasting through his helmet communication apparatus. Dan Reeves was likely the best coach this woeful organization ever had. He got a raw deal from Blank. Vick did not “kill” his career. That was Arthur Blank intending to stamp his name on his new toy. It’s easy to point out problems. How would either of you two Einsteins solve this Falcon problem? Who would you like to see as coach? What system of offense and defense? Who at q’back?
By Beretverde
December 30, 2006 06:07 AM | Link to this
TOUGH CALL? I thought Blank said 8-8 and no playoffs is unacceptable! If a man means what he says it won’t be so “TOUGH.” A real “tough call” is keeping Vick because of idiot Vick fans. To win in the NFL we need get rid of the over paid boondoggle athlete who is 1: too stupid to know the plays 2: can’t read defenses 3: gives paying fans “the bird” 4: rushes for an NFL QB record, while maintaining a losing season! Bring back Aundray Bruce and the Smiths!
By Beretverde
December 30, 2006 06:59 AM | Link to this
PS… OH I forgot… Mean D… you are onto something, and I agree with much on what you say about Vick. The truth is out there… and so are the statistics! I’m now giving the bird to Vick and his gazillion $ salary! Not a tough call! Mora too!
By Political Foreskin
December 30, 2006 07:38 AM | Link to this
I’m sick of looking at Mora. I hate his fat face.
By Kudzu
December 30, 2006 07:55 AM | Link to this
HOLD THE PLAYERS ACCOUNTABLE… When does this matter anymore? Everyone wants to throw out the coaching staff, start over, find some greener grass, etc., you guys are smoking some funny mexican weed. These guys, Vick/Hall and company, their mindset is “me first” everything revolve around me…
Mora coddled his babies too much, now look what they’ve done to him.
I don’t deny that Mora and Staff have sucked at times, but I guess it depends on which glasses you’re looking through when determining who’s basically to fault, who’s sucking the most.
To me, Vick, at times, looked very intentional at playing haphazardly…I still say “daddy” was right.
By Bobby
December 30, 2006 08:01 AM | Link to this
I think Mora is the second best thing that has happened to Atlanta, second to blank. I don’t understand how you can fire a coach after so many injuries, dropped balls, sorry runs, and poor play calls. Mora took them to the playoffs his first year, wake up people.
By Saddam Hussein
December 30, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this
I just arrived in Hell and as “eternal punishment” down here, Satan makes you watch Falcons games reruns. Plus there are posters everywhere of Mike Vick giving all fans the “bird”!! Repent before its too late!!
By ExFalconFan
December 30, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
King Arthur should fire Mora simply for his idiotic radio interview about wanting to go to Washington to coach! Mora is obviously an idiot with no reason to be a headcoach in the NFL. Blank had better take control of the team back and SOON. Mora has kissed the butts of the players especially Vick to the point of losing respect and control. I have never seen another head coach kiss another player like Mora did when he kissed Vick prior to a game..which they LOST. If the Falcons had won, Mora probably would have been dropping to his knees in front of Vick..if you know what I mean. Mora had got to go and so should Vick. I know the Thug Nation will rise up and claim racism but they will get over it when the Falcons start winning again! Blank..do the right thing!! Its your team!!
By jerry
December 30, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this
Take the ‘Skins today. The NFL wouldn’t dare to resolve the playoffs before the last day of the season.
By preston
December 30, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this
Okay folks….for any one that thinks that Vick is the problem, and wants an objective, open-minded discussion, please consider this……Vick threw 4 TD’s against Dallas, had a passer rating of over 100, and we still lost the game, but yet his haters blamed him for the lost. He also threw for 4 TD’s against Pittsburgh, and we barely won the game by a field goal b/c they fumbled the ball away on their end of the field, giving us a chance for the 3 point win…..but Vick’s detracters were silent, and we were lucky to win that game. Folks…number one…this defense hasn’t done much of anything special since Jim Mora ” aka the defensive guru” has been here. Number two… it does not matter what Vick does as a QB b/c our coaching staff, for whatever reasons never seems to be able to adjust to whatever the opposing team does. Why is it that Peyton Manning appears to be so spectacular, and unstoppable during the regular season, but yet looks rather sub par, and has done absolutely nothing in the playoffs??? Could it be that because the opposing coaches develop, adapt and adjust their game plans to put more pressure on, and frustrate P.Manning. Jim Mora and this staff has a verifiable record of blatant incompetency…….from the tampa bay game last year, that ridiculous Micheal keonen “triple threat” experiment, not utilizing J. Williams, J. Griffin, to not even coming close to adapting, or adjusting to anything that the opposing teams throw at us…the list goes on and on. There is a lot of room for improvement for Vick, but I will take him any day for my starting QB. And for all this talk about Drew brees (who in a game earlier this year threw for over 500 yds….but his team still lost the game 31-16!) and Ladanian Tomlinson ( who in 7 seasons hasn’t won a playoff a game, along with Brees)….yes,individually, both of those players are having a phenominal year, but someone please tell me why were they not able to accomplish ANYTHING while playing together in San Diego??? Why did San Diego even think to drafting a back up qb and ultimaely trading Brees…….Micheal Vick has shown, albeit not on a consistent basis,that he can do things collectively that neither one of those guys can do individually. Blank needs to swallow his pride and bite the bullet and admit that his hiring of Jim Mora was a mistake, and get us a guy in here that knows what to do….and not just knows what to say. p.s….while I am a Vick supporter…..Blank needs to admit that he overpays a lot of his players and he is not getting his immediate returns or rewards…….changes have to be made….and quickly!!!
By HATinGA
December 30, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this
I dont dislike Mora as much as i hate his OC,DC. Donetell continued to play soft zones all year even when horrid QBs from Detroit an Clev were stredding it the only time we made big playes on defence was when we attacked,against Dal we would attack ,sack and get them in 3rd an longgggg! only to rush 3 or 4 an play zone an let them convert 3rd an 12s,17s,16s I know that happened 5 or 6 times, and thats what got Him (Donetell) fired in GB ,it would be differnt if we played that defence well but we suk at it, yet thats what we did on big 3rd down after big 3rd down all year long.It supposedly keeps big plays from happening but we gave up what seemed like a 100 big plays out of soft zones with everybody back!I would rather give up a few big 1s if i get some back attacking the QB .Good DCs dont even give the QB enough time for his receivers to get 12 or 15 yards up field.We have been getting behind every game by 14, 17 points before we finally start going after the QB but we are not a comeback team.Regardless of what happens on offence and I dont care for Vick ,You win in this league with tough attacking Defence and thats what Mora was billed to be, but the 1st thing he did was hire Donetell and attacking went out the window!
By UGA @$$ Holes REDNECKS
December 30, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
The @$$ holes and in breed ed rednecks are out in force.Why would any body want to go and play football at redneck U UGA. Don’t send your kids over there. And young foot ball player you won’t get you degree if you play at red neck U look it up I have no reason to lie. And to the Brother thinking about playing at UGA . Read this blog page and see is this the place for you!
By Flo Jean
December 30, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this
Jim Mora is a hottie. He can coach me any time.
By jerry
December 30, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this
Blank is as full of it as the Smith’s were. Otherwise he would have fired Mora on the spot and sent a message to all concerned. Take the ‘Skins today. The NFL wouldn’t dare take the suspense out of the playoffs before the last day of the season.
By Steve T
December 30, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this
I don’t understand how you can fire a coach after so many injuries, dropped balls, sorry runs, and poor play calls.
You answered your own question. The coach can’t do much about injuries, the only thing he can do is try to make adjustments. However, the coach has to resolve the drop ball problems. He has to solve the poor play calls.
He needed to see that having Dunn in short yardage situations is not worrying. Most coaches in the NFL would see that Dunn can not break tackles.
In short yardage, the back must be able to break tackles. If he wanted to run Dunn, he needs to have a jumbo package. He needs have all the big boys up front to block for Dunn. Last by not least, you do not run the stretch play.
By GodHatesTrash
December 30, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this
Blank is a martinet and an egomaniac. Mora, with his own ego problems, is already gone.
By ostrich
December 30, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
C’mon people. All of you that think Vick is a bust are just wrong. NO he hasn’t been winning but have you actually watched his game? When he has time, he is laser accurate. Remember the touchdown pass to Alge with the defender all over him. You don’t get more accurate than that. Did anybody see him in his first pro bowl? He had great blocking and great receivers and he was brilliant. The guy CAN play BUT his coaches won’t let him. How many other QB’s in the league are NOT allowed to call an audible. How do you expect your QB to throw the ball if both his hands are tied behind his back. If he sees a defense that calls for another play LET HIM CALL IT. AS far as his leadership, I will agree that may be in question but he was good at that too when he played for Dan Reeves. I suggest, as in the movie “Remember the Titams” that “Attitude reflect leadership”. Put in a coach with a HIGH standard instead of an “acceptance of mediocrity” and let’s see the man shine at his position. He is very good.
By Dan Reeves
December 30, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this
hey ostrich..get your head out of the sand dude. Vick is NOT an NFL caliber QB. He has the worst pass completion percentage in the NFL..he has NOT thrown a 4th qtr touchdown in close to 20 games!! They won’t let him audible because he does not have the ability nor intelligence to read defenses. Why do you think he rushed for over 1000 yards this year? Because he cannot throw with consistency. Sure, he has made some good throws occasionally but in the NFL you have to do that each week. So wake up dude and quit sipping “Ron Mexico” coffee. Vick supporters want this to be a race issue..but its not. The man is not an NFL caliber QB..maybe he should return punts. Mora is a moron too!!
By UGA @$$ Holes REDNECKS
December 30, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this
By Dan Reeves This is not the real Dan Reeves this Mean D.I do have $hit for brains. This is all he has to do is put out hate. He is a sooner and that is the result of to much in breeding. This is his life. Set and write hate all day. He is not a real fan but he is a little boy in his kkk outfit ! For give him he got drop on his head when he was two days old. He is suffering for sickness in the big head!
By coach
December 30, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
If the Falcons win tomorrow - there will have outcoached one of the very best coaching staffs in the league.
I think the odds are against that happening, but will take my hat off to them if they do.
Andy is working with a seasoned ownership and his cooridintors are using systems which fit their personal.
However the Eagles are playing for a fan base with will turn on them at the drop of a hat, to have any chance the Falcons must start fast!!!
By coach
December 30, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this
Arthur,
Don’t listen to the fans, because we don’t know.
By Ken Strickland
December 30, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
Not that its any of you guy’s business, but yes I am gay.
By Ken Strickland
December 30, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this
This is for all of you, so called Falcons fans(haters). You claim Vick is a RB, WR or DB, not a QB. You also claim his alledged stupidity, inability to read DEF’s, inability to pass, lack of leadership, and his cornrolls, tatoos, earrings, etc. will prevent him from leading us to a SB. Now, if all of this is true, it only serves to show just how great and gifted this young man is. You see, with all of these supposed negatives going against him, he is still the winningest QB in Falcons history. He is the only Falcons QB that’s never had a losing season. He is also one of the winningest active QB’s in the NFL today.
Now, everyone sees PManning as the prototypical QB. He’s a prolific passer, he has excellent football knowledge, he is surrounded by Probowl quality talent, outstanding coaching, and a stable OFF system. Yet, when the money is on the line(playoffs), his record is worse than Vicks. He’s been a starter almost twice as many yrs as Vick, but hasn’t taken his team any closer to a SB.
So, hall of fame passing ability, stats, leadership, QB ratings, etc. hasn’t gotten Manning any closer to a SB than Vick, in almost twice the time. So all of you obsessive HATERS can continue focusing on Vicks shortcomings, both real or imagined. The truth is, it won’t change a thing. He is, and will continue to be, the QB of the Falcons, and the highest paid player in NFL history. We, so called Vick lovers, will take solace in knowing that those sick feelings of hatred and disgust, that Vicks presence seems to bring to you haters, will not end anytime soon. Is this a great country or what? HA HA HA HA. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!
By ronny
December 30, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this
Did I hear this right? I thought Lou Holtz said during the half-time show of the Navy-Boston College bowl game on ESPN that Jim Mora may be heading to Alabama? It was so quick I might not have understood correctly. It was in the form of a Lou Holz “tip.” Boy, would that ever be something! If so— this is just from me— one possibilty to replace Mora would be Kirk Ferentz of Iowa. He has a terrific record at Iowa— and was once assistant head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. He also was offensive line coach! Just do a Google search on Kirk Ferentz a read his bio. Really outstanding. Iowa plays Texas in the Alamo Bowl at 4:30p on ESPN.
By ICEMAN
December 30, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this
Ken,gayboy,Strickland
Being the winningest QB in Falcons history isn’t that much of a compliment. The Falcons suck historically!
Also, its not just about comparing him to Manning, how about comparing him to Brady, Young, Favre,etc, those individuals who have won a super bowl.
You’re just pulling for Vick because you’re attracted to him.
By larry w.
December 30, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this
This blog has gotten way out of hand. Ken Strickland is one of the most knowledgeable and respected posters on these blogs. The personal attacks really are not warranted. Mora is in way over his head. He has not shown the leadership necessary to drive a football team for an entire season. I’m sure that he is a good person, but he is not a good head coach. Too much dissention and controversy under his watch. He needs to go and take his cronies with him.
By ICEMAN
December 30, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this
larry w.,
You weren’t here last week when Ken and Famuan were ganging up on me because of some comments I mad about Vick. Your “respected buddy” got way out of hand.
By Ken Strickland
December 30, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
ICEWOMAN, see how easy it is to play your stupid little childish name game. Now, on to serious discussions. Brady is an outstanding QB and deserves all of the credit he receives. Farve is a former SB winner, that has thrown more INT’s than any other QB over the last few yrs. In fact, he led the NFL in INT’s, last yr, by a very wide margin. He also had a very low QB rating and led his team to a losing season. If you are going to ignore Vicks past accomplishments, don’t mention Farve and his past accomplishments.
SYoung was an absolute disaster while he was in TB. He was labeled a running QB that couldn’t pass and wouldn’t stay in the pocket. He had a rifle arm, threw tight spirals and often overthrew and/or underthrew his REC’s. According to the way you HATERS think, that would make him a RB, or REC, or DB trying to play QB. I guess he was unable to read DEF’s as well, and he couldn’t have possessed any leadership qualities. I guess the thing that made him different was the fact he didn’t wear cornrolls. He was such a disaster, TB, a team in desperate need of a QB for most of its existence, shipped him to SF for peanuts.
In SF he sat and learned the WC OFF from BWalsh, its innovator. He also benefited from playing behind, and learning from a HOF QB named Joe Montana. He only had to learn one system during his entire career at SF, and he didn’t have to learn it in battle. Even when SF changed its HC, the system never changed.
If Young had not been traded to SF, his career would have likely ended uneventfully. If Joe Montana hadn’t played for BWalsh, the same would likely have happened. After all, he was a flop away form the WC system at KC. Get MVick an effective HC and OC, and he will do consistently what he did against the Steelers, Bengals and Cowboys. You HATERS need to get over the hatred and dispense with the mindless bull——.
By larry w.
December 30, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this
ICEMAN…Personal attacks against you or any other blogger are not warranted either!
By larry w.
December 30, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this
Ken…you make very valid points. Any successful system has to fit the personnel at hand. Different quarterbacks have different talents and skill levels. Obviously, Knapp’s system and Vick go together about as well as oil and water. Reeves took the time to devise a system to fit Vick’s personal strengths. Knapp has stubbornly tried to make Vick fit into HIS system, and that is where he made a huge mistake. I think Schaub probably would have been the better quarterback for Knapp’s system. But what Knapp didn’t seem to grasp, was that Vick was his starter and not Schaub.
By no one
December 30, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this
do we need chicago to beat the packers and the vikings to beat the rams (along with a win and a giants loss) or no?
By Haters
December 30, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this
The Haters just know thier wives and girlfriends want to sleep with Vick and the fear is eating them up. Face it, the women love cornrowed QB’s. Just stupid feedback for the silly bloggers who constantly dis Vick for nothing more than being a fast black QB.
By tito is a phony
December 30, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this
Anybody else but me realize that ” Mean D” is really Titothing, AKA, Suzaanne, AKA, Tito the bear? Shame Titothing couldn’t make any progress with the shrink on those issues it was dealing with. Now, back to the blog- No, it won’t be a tough call to fire Mora- he has dug his own grave, and his assistants have allowed the inmates to run the asylum. Whoever replaces Mora this text will be bolded MUST reagin the disclipine of all of these underacheiving, overpaid “athletes” in order to compete in the NFL. Come on, Carolina, one of the bottom feeders Atlanta lost to, made them look like they didn’t care. Pathetic!
By larry w.
December 30, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this
no one…We need the Panthers, Giants, and Packers to lose and we must win in order to get to the playoffs.
By Titothebear
December 30, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this
Mora will, in all probability, be fired after Sunday’s game. A new coach will come in shortly but an old problem will remain. Mike Vick will still be on the roster and he will still be inadequate and he will continue to lead the team on the path of destruction. No coach can win with Vick as the quarterback. He must go if the Foulcons are to improve!
By Titothebear
December 30, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this
By tito is a phony December 30, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this Anybody else but me realize that ” Mean D” is really Titothing, AKA, Suzaanne, AKA, Tito the bear? Shame Titothing couldn’t make any progress with the shrink on those issues it was dealing with. Now, back to the blog- No, it won’t be a tough call to fire Mora- he has dug his own grave, and his assistants have allowed the inmates to run the asylum. Whoever replaces Mora this text will be bolded MUST reagin the disclipine of all of these underacheiving
Moron,
Learn to spell! You should know how to spell u-n-d-e-r-a-c-h-i-e-v-e-r since you are one! R-e-g-a-i-n some semblance of an intellect before you bring your dumb a* back on this blog Gay boy!
By kenny d
December 30, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this
tito:
if no coach can win with vick, then how did vick along with reeves, phillips, and mora somehow manage to have a 38 game stretch where they went 27-10-1 with vick as a starter? how exactly could no coach win with vick when his teams went 27-10-1 with vick as the starter while during that same exact stretch, the team went 3-11 without vick as a starter? use your brain for once tito
By Ken Strickland
December 30, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this
LARRY W, thanks for the respect. This is how the entire episode with ICEMAN got started in the 1st place. FAMAUM and I exchanged simular acknowledgements, about something ICEMAN didn’t agree with, and he jumped in with his typically childish sexual inuendoes. ICEMAN, if you didn’t want a rebuttal, you shouldn’t respond.
You are so right LARRY W, for a lot of players, the system is everything. O. J. Simpson, FHarris, LSzonka, HWalker, ESmith, RMoss, DCulpepper, JMontana, PPrice are just a few that suffered after leaving the systems that maximised their talents. I don’t believe MShaub would be as effective as Vick in Knapp’s system. DEF’s would still load 7-8 men in the box, play man coverage, and blitz. With no RB’s to throw to, no ability to audible, and no hot reads(slants, quick out patterns),he’d be handcuffed just like Vick. Shaub is far less mobile than Vick, so DEF’s wouldn’t need to hold their DE’s for outside containment. Behind our OLine, with 7-8 defenders coming after him, Shaub would be a sitting duck, much like PManning is against pressure DEF’s.
Here is the major reason our OFF is inconsistent and an overall failure. Knapp& Mora have tried to create a dynamic OFF, by blending THEIR version of the WC scheme with Denver’s blocking and running scheme. The task has proven to be way beyond Knapps conservative abilities. Mora has exasperated Knapps problems by placing personal friendships ahead of his HC responsibilities. The Denver blocking and running scheme has worked to prefection. We’ve led the NFL in rushing 3yrs running. It’s their WC hybid, and their conservative approch, that’s failed. The players aren’t hurting the system, it’s the system that’s hurting the players and the team overall.
By Ken Strickland
December 30, 2006 09:50 PM | Link to this
KENNY D, you need to look at what you’re asking of TITO. He is well accustomed to using his well developed vocabulary and rapier whit, but not his brain. Over the past yr, his entire focus has been on villifying Michael Vick, and it has not varied. It seems that seeing QB Vick with his hands under the center, stirs up some internal feelings. Now what those feelings are, I don’t know. But, they have forced him to target Michael Vick as the creator of all things wrong with the Falcons. After a yr of negative responses towards Vick, and Vick alone, you have to say his problem has reached a level called obsessive behavior. I don’t have anything against TITO, after all, his responses have always been good for a laugh.
By tito is a phony
December 30, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this
Methinks the lady doth protest too much, eh? The titothing is always the first to flame on someone and call them gay- actually, quite telling of it’s tendecies… How are the gender change sessions going, Titothing? Titothing, if you have anything to contribute to the ORIGINAL POST, please do so- remember, the topic is Mora being let go is a tough choice either way. If you ask your pre-school charges ( shudder!!!), they should be able to help you understand this difficult concept! Otherwise, go troll on the Panties boards where you came from. By the way, have a great New Year as the new Daisy Bear. Remember, Yogi likes picnic baskets! HEY HEY!! Wow, made it through the post with no spelling errors….
By no one
December 30, 2006 11:16 PM | Link to this
playoff hopes officiall crushed. thank god.
By Titothebear
December 31, 2006 01:16 AM | Link to this
Moron,
The Foulcons were eliminated from consideration for the playoffs tonight. This simplistic attack upon me is not unanticipated. You are the fool who pretends to aspirations of writing greatness and you can’t even spell the most basic of words. You’re a fool and everyone recognizes your inferiority! Don’t bother me again. Don’t disgrace yourself further. The Foulcons are an inferior team with an inferior quarterback. Fools such as yourself should just shut up and realize that your ravings are perceived for what they are-the ridiculous rantings of losers! The Foulcons are awful and having fans such as yourself is an indictment of a team that’s been in the league forty-one years and has never had consecutive winning seasons. There is a symbiosis there. So long loser!
By Titothebear
December 31, 2006 02:08 AM | Link to this
KEN,
Vilify has one L. It’s not hard to vilify a leader of a team when that team has won as sporadically as the Foulcons have. Your silly attack upon me smacks of sour grapes. No playoffs for you, or for the Foulcons, for two consecutive seasons. I have focused upon Vick because he is the problem with the team. He’s not a good quarterback but he’s been lionized and he doesn’t deserve it. He’s a loser and the record of the team proves that. You and others will continue to focus upon me because I called it. I told you before the season that the Foulcons would be a disaster and they’ve been nothing but that. Say what you want fool. Blame me all you want but i didn’t throw a single incompletion or interception. I’m not the one who couldn’t put up more than three points against the Saints or the Panthers. I didn’t fumble or do any of the other things Vick did to lose games. Vick is the problem with the Foulcons, not Mora! Deal with it? The Foulcons will never be a winning team as long as that loser remains at quarterback! Have a nice off-season maggot!
By Shell
December 31, 2006 03:01 AM | Link to this
Falcons need o-linemen who can block and allow the team to convert 3rd down an 1 and 4th and 1. Carolina took their QB out of the game on 3rd and 5, and converted 7 out of eight times by running the ball. Question: Could the falcons take Vick out of the game and convert a 3rd and 5 by running the ball as Carolina did? You know the answer is no, and that is the problem with the offense, its the O-line dummies!!! Carolina proved that if you play good defense, and have an o-line that can block, you can win games in the NFL.
By Darrin "The Vent King
December 31, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this
Never in a million years would I have guess six years ago when I almost got into it with my friends because they told me after I had arrived to their draft party late that we drafted Vick and I thought they were screwing with me because this Falcon franchise has NEVER been that fortunate that things would have gotten so bad. I thought the sun finally had shined on this dog’s rear only to find out we got “sunburned”. Everything from the “roota to da toota” is jacked up with this franchise as ALWAYS! I thought all these years it was the Smiths. Now I’m starting to believe maybe this town is cursed when it comes to sports. I mean if you look at all three teams- Hawks, Braves, and Falcons, they all lose in the same manner. Hawks will be winning all the way through three qtrs, then the bottom falls out and they embarrassingly choke. The Falcons, well we can’t even get our QB to score in the 4th qtr and the Birds go into their swoon soon as the most important part of the season comes up-the 2nd half. The Braves, well the level of choking in the playoffs is legendary now. As long as the game doesn’t mean anything or we’re in the midst of a meaningless part of the season or game, these franchises are giant killers, but as soon as the lights come on and the pressure is on- THEY ALL FOLD LIKE COMIC BOOKS! How can you explain ALL three teams being like this for the last FORTY years? The Falcons are just the latest example of this curse. Fire Mora and hire a witch doctor to get rid of this dark cloud that has been permanently placed over Atlanta sports. The level of “no guts” play from all these franchises with the consistency of a fan blade turning is beyond explantion and this has been going on well before Mora came here. Firing him is just the first step.
GO FALCONS!!
By Ken Strickland
December 31, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this
TITO, all name calling and sarcasm aside. If you want your opinions about the Vick and/or the Falcons problems to be respected, you have to demonstrate a broader understanding. Common sense should tell you, and everyone else, Vick isn’t responsible for our bottom rated pass DEF. He’s also not responsible for our poor pass rush, and inconsistent run DEF. He’s not responsible for our REC’s leading the NFL in dropped passes, especially 3rd dn and TD passes.
If you’ve watched any of our gms, you know the play selection has been awful. The OC, Knapp, calls all of our plays and doesn’t allow them to be changed. He refuses to use our RB’s as REC’s, and often holds the TE in to block. That gives Vick only 2 REC’s against 3 defenders(2CB’s & FS)in man coverage. That leaves 1 spy, and 7 DL/LB to rush the QB.
We are dead last in redzone and short yardage OFF, and we are near the bottom in 3rd & 4th down conversions. Knapp’s conservative and unusual play calling, and refusal to change personell in these situations, is the problem, not Vick. Last yr, in short yardage/redzone OFF, Knapp changed personell sending in Duckett and an extra TE. As a result, we were near the top in redzone/short yardage OFF.
The coaching staff, not Vick, is responsible for the system and its implimentation(play selection, formations, etc.). If you can’t recognize that, then your issues with Vick aren’t football related.
By everyone
December 31, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
life is not fair football is not fair
just when you think you got it you really don’t. S**. F***.
Hopes smashed. Tears shed. All for naught.
When?? I say, when???? F*** THIS S**. It’s not fair. It pinches the air and freezes breath. Life and playoffs dance together down the drain. I HATE THIS S**!!!!
Deep down this is what all of you are thinking. It’s okay. Just let it out. Say it with me together, now.
F*** THIS S**!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a drunken, morose rant by a crushed falcons fan.
By rick
December 31, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this
I feel you pain, everyone. We all do. Another year wasted. I guess we’ll just have to wait for next season. Again.
By MJH
December 31, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
Bring back Jerry Glanville. He took a no tallent team and taught them to be bad @$$e$. I know he could whip the tallent on this team into shape.
Put Elvis back on the guest list!
By David
December 31, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this
ADMIT THE MISTAKE AND BRING COACH REEVES BACK.
By savannah foulcoon
December 31, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Deep down this is what all of you are thinking. It’s okay. Just let it out. Say it with me together, now.
F* THIS S!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a drunken, morose rant by a crushed falcons fan.i’m not drunk yet but i’m workin’ on it.
and i agree: F* this S*!!
i’m tired of supporting this bunch of losers for 40 years.
the defense draws serious vacuum and the offense is extremely iffy.
looking at the cincinnatti and pittsburg games gave me hope. watching detroit and cleveland dashed them.
the ‘coons are gonna get whacked today.
if the OC and DC are canned, what proficient coordinator in their right mind would sign up this group?
if mora and company are canned, who’s next? who could step in with an OC and a DC and right this canoe? another unknown is just another moran, eh?
sigh.
By savannah foulcoon
December 31, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
reeves is too old. and trying to coach this bunch is gonna give him the “big one”.
i don’t think he’s into suicide. ;-)
wish the current staff was.
By Ken Strickland
December 31, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
Let’s not get too carried away with this Dan Reeves thing. When he was the Bronco’s head coach, his biggest, and most openly vocal critic, was John Elway. Elway publicly stated that it was Reeves’ conservative approach that allowed him to hold the record for most come from behind wins. After being fired, Reeves accused Elway and Callahan, his assistant & current Denver HC, of undermining him.
With all of that said, Reeves was still a better coach and mentor for Vick. His superior understanding of the game, and Vicks unique talents, allowed him to better utilize his talents. He knew the advantage of designing a system around Vick, rather than forcing Vick into a system, like Knapp and Mora.
By tito is a phony
December 31, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
Yeah, that’s pretty good there Daisybear to-be. You come onto the blogs with your one-trick pony , posting how Vick is the root of all evil. When you are called on your obnoxious postings, you are always the first to lash out and unleash personal attacks on posters, while hiding behind your pretensions of intellect. To me that pretty well clarifies that you , Titothing, are indeed the loser. While I enjoy watching you make an utter fool of yourself,your pathetic rantings against Vick have become cumbersome, much like your presence on this blog. I’m not sure who I feel more pity for - you or the poor, wretched children under your “tutelage”. Go ahead, post another one of your pithy rambling attacks- it won’t make any difference: you’ve already shown everybody on this blog how inane your comments are. Don’t forget, now, make sure you throw in some homophobic slurs and be sure to question my IQ also, since I have the audacity to respond to your “brilliantly” worded posts. Now get your picnic basket and get out of here- Yogi and BooBoo are waiting for you in the cave- HEY!HEY!HEY! Oh, by the way, this just in- the Panties suck , too.
By Wings of Victory
December 31, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
LOL @ “Tito is a Phony” That was priceless!!!!!!! Tito you have been served! LOL!
By Harry A Jacobs
December 31, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
I think Blank ought to experiment and make me the coach. It’s true I have never been a football coach but I come cheap, look good, and guarantee I will do a better job than Mora. What ya say Mr. Blank? I’ll be on the next Greyhound bus, just give me the word. Lag
By MBATL
December 31, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
Wouldn’t it make sense to play Schaub today? One, your avoid injury to Vick, and Two, you give some exposure to a guy you may want to trade.
But, Mora is too worried about saving his job. We’ll go all out for this meaningless game.
By Ken Strickland
December 31, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe what I am seeing. The seasons last gm, we’ve missed the playoffs, our coaching staff’s jobs/careers are on the line, and these fools are still conservative. HOW MANY TIMES, ON 3RD/4TH AND 1, DO YOU GET STOPPED RUNNING THE SAME DAMN PLAY BEFORE YOU REALIZE IT ISN’T WORKING?
We all know even if Mora is retained, both coordinators will be fired. However, since Mora has demonstrated undying loyality to them, he will likely resign. He needs to be fired, since he’s shown more loyality to his coordinator friends, than to the organization and team.
Philly is taking advantage of our DB’s playing Donatells beloved soft zone coverage by throwing quick slants and out pattern. ANYONE STILL BLAMING PLAYERS FOR THIS SEASONS FAILURES, AFTER WATCHING THIS GM, IS FOOTBALL ILLITERATE.
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
December 31, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
How very sad this is! last week we lose to a high school offense this week we’re behind to a bunch of backups. This is Moras last game as a falcon but many of the problems will be here after he leaves. First watch Blank pacing the sidelines like a pimp.What self respecting coach will want to deal with that bs? And insiders have said the next coach will be picked with the current players in mind.That limits the pool to a few candidates and how many of these will have the suicidal nature needed to step into this dysfunctional turd vat? So in closing —- GO BRAVES!!!
By DOM
December 31, 2006 07:27 PM | Link to this
LETS PUT THIS VICK BASHING TO REST ITS THE GM AND COACHES! SCHAUB DIDNT DAZZLE.
By scott
January 1, 2007 09:28 AM | Link to this
FIRE MORA! TRADE VICK TO THE RAIDERS. VICK HAS TO GO. HE HAS BEEN IN THE LEAGUE SIX YEARS AND AFTER THIS DISMAL SEASON IT IS VERY APPARENT THAT VICK CANNOT READ A DEFENSE ANY BETTER THAN I CAN READ FARSI.
By Falcons Stink
January 1, 2007 03:06 PM | Link to this
As I and others have said here today and many times before this is the NFL people not college or highschool! You can’t run a highschool college offense in the NFL and expect to win consistently. So vick ran for a 1000 yards this year. Big Deal! It ain’t winning games and getting us to the playoffs! Vick’s problem is not his running ability but a severe lack of leadership skills and commitment. He has no touch or accuracy when throwing the football he can’t read a defense, he has no ability to go through progressions. vick is run first pass second! His lack of commtment is apparent and glaring! This why he is regressing. Then after an 11-5 season he gave up on the West Coast offense because it did not support his view of himself and what his stats should be. Note that Steve Young who came in to Atlanta 3 years ago to assist him in learning the new offense, Young never came back to help him after that first year and interestingly enough really has nothing more to say on the subject! Vick didn’t want any more help from anyone he didn’t want to learn any offense that would take a 3 year commitment to become proficient in! Again a lack of commitment! He wanted the Ron Mexico offense, a hybrid highschool college offense that would build up his running stats and the view that he is superman! Unfortunately no team can win with this sytle of offense in the NFL. Vick is a talented athlete but a NFL Quarterback? Not Hardly!
By bobcat
January 1, 2007 03:40 PM | Link to this
Now that mora is gone team management want have anyone to blame except vick and they will see he has been the problem all along ” He is not a true qb ” give matt schub the ball and you will see good things to come .
By Will
January 1, 2007 04:07 PM | Link to this
I SUPPORT MORA i think he was putin a lose lose situation by both vick and blank. people go research vicks stats nothing individual acheivements for vick i think we need to trade vick and get whatever we can get for him and let schaub lead us to where we need to be. and as far as a newe coach who ever we get will be loved by all the bandwagon fans until vick gfets him fired and then what another new coach VICK GOT TO GO jim moras fasther waqs right he is a COACH KILLER
By Will
January 1, 2007 04:08 PM | Link to this
I SUPPORT MORA i think he was putin a lose lose situation by both vick and blank. people go research vicks stats nothing individual acheivements for vick i think we need to trade vick and get whatever we can get for him and let schaub lead us to where we need to be. and as far as a newe coach who ever we get will be loved by all the bandwagon fans until vick gfets him fired and then what another new coach VICK GOT TO GO jim moras fasther waqs right he is a COACH KILLER
By ray
January 1, 2007 04:46 PM | Link to this
Will is right, Vick needs to go. Play #8 he is a better passer, QB’s pass in the NFL. Look at some of QB’s that have been successful with there teams and they can’t run at all. examples Favre,Brady, and so on. I really think that running QB’s are not the way to go, Mcnabb only run’s when he as too. He is a great passer #5 in the league this year. The chargers are laughing and thinking god they never got the best QB every in the NFL. That being VICK.
By ray
January 1, 2007 04:47 PM | Link to this
Will is right, Vick needs to go. Play #8 he is a better passer, QB’s pass in the NFL. Look at some of QB’s that have been successful with there teams and they can’t run at all. examples Favre,Brady, and so on. I really think that running QB’s are not the way to go, Mcnabb only run’s when he as too. He is a great passer #5 in the league this year. The chargers are laughing and thinking god they never got the best QB every in the NFL. That being VICK.
By yinzer
January 1, 2007 04:56 PM | Link to this
No super bowl winning quarterback has ever publicly critized his fellow players..no super bowl winning quarterback has ever publicly critized his coach..no super bowl winning quarterback has ever pulled himself late in the fourth quarter (Detroit 2005, Dallas 2006) with his team down for a pulled muscle..no super bowl will ever be won by Atlanta with Michael Vick as quarterback..no matter the coach.
By ray
January 1, 2007 05:03 PM | Link to this
VICK Sucks! Schuab is better
By Richie Rich
January 1, 2007 05:21 PM | Link to this
**TO ALL OF THE VICK HATER’S, IF VICK WAS WHITE, AND DOING ALL OF THE THINGS HE DOES, YOU GUY’S WOULD LOVE HIM! PLAIN AND SIMPLE, OR IF HE WAS FROM THAT SORRY A* UNIVERSITY UP THERE IN ATHENS, YOU GUY’S WOULD LOVE HIM!!
ALSO, MATT SCHAUB IS NOT THE ANSWER. HE WOULD GET KILLED BEHIND OUR OFFENSIVE LINE. MATT HAS ONE GOOD GAME AGAINST A DEPLETED PATRIOTS DEFENSE, AND YOU GUY’S THINK HE IS THE NEXT JOE MONTANA…EVER HEARD OF DOUG JOHNSON, WENT TO NY AND BEAT THE GIANTS AND EVERYBODY WAS RAVING ABOUT HIM. WHERE’S HE AT TODAY, RUNNING A CACTUS CAR WASH DOWN IN MIDTOWN SOMEWHERE? MATT MAY SOMEDAY BE A DECENT QB, IT JUST WON’T BE HERE.
WHY ARE KNAPP AND DONATELL STILL NOT FIRED??? THEY ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST SET OF COORDINATOR’S IN THE LEAGUE. THEY SHOULD NOT BE APART OF THE SCOUTING THAT GOES ON LEADING UP TO THE DRAFT.
ALSO KEITH BROOKING HAS TO GO! HE IS THE MOST OVERRATED LINEBACKER IN THE LEAGUE! YES HE MAKES A LOT OF TACKLES, BUT THEY ARE 10 YARDS PAST THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE. I AM TIRED OF SEEING HIM CHASE DOWN A RUNNING BACK AFTER HE CAN’T MAKE A PLAY AT THE LINE, AFTER GETTING JUKED OUT OF HIS CLEATS.**
By yinzer
January 1, 2007 06:18 PM | Link to this
Sorry to disappoint you Richie Rich..but I went to a great university WAY up north (Penn State) whose best quarterback in recent memory, Michael Robinson, was black! Making stereotypes in which you included me not only makes you a RACIST..but a HYPOCRITE!
By Falcons Stink
January 1, 2007 06:40 PM | Link to this
Way to go Richie Rich! You’ve proven to be a blithering idiot and a racist a*******hole! Or at the very least a bigoted dumba$$! I’m not a Vick hater cause he’s black, I don’t care that he is. I am Vick hater because he is a quitter and not a true NFL Quarterback!
By ConyersDawg
January 1, 2007 07:31 PM | Link to this
Falcons draft #10, that is the one good thing to losing that last game. We should get a good one. Couple that #10 with shaub and we could possibly get a top 5 pick!
By MALONE
January 1, 2007 07:41 PM | Link to this
Why are you people not talking about a new coach? Vick is here to stay…
…unless of course he “kills” the next coach.
If Parcells or Dungy(!) becomes available, grab ‘em.
By Richie Rich
January 1, 2007 08:00 PM | Link to this
YINZER AND FALCONS STINK, DID I MENTION EITHER ONE OF YOU??? I HAVE BEEN READING THIS BLOG FOR A WHILE, AND MOST OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT VICK BEING OUR QB ARE RACIST COMMENTS, LIKE BLACK QB’S AREN’T SMART ENOUGH TO PLAY THE POSITION. READ MEAN D’S COMMENTS ABOVE. ARE THOSE NOT RACIST COMMENTS? IF YOU GOT OFFENDED BY WHAT I WROTE, THEN MY COMMENTS MUST HAVE STRUCK A NERVE WITH YOU, WITHOUT EVEN POINTING YOU OUT.
By bobcat
January 1, 2007 08:14 PM | Link to this
I hated to see mora go cause i did think he was a good coach. maybe be a different quarter back would have saved his job. To me vick was a very spotty qb too many on-again off-again games it looked as if you didn,t know which vick would show up . I just think if mora had a different qb he,d still have his job and just maybe the falcons would be in the playoff now. But we,ll have to see if the new coach can turn things around or is it really mike vick that is the problem .
By yinzer
January 1, 2007 08:17 PM | Link to this
Richie Rich: You are a racist hypocrite no matter how you try to defend it.
By Richie Rich
January 1, 2007 10:35 PM | Link to this
F*** YOU U F*** DUMBASS DID I OFFEND YOUR REDNECK, SALAD TOSSING A*?
By Ken Strickland
January 1, 2007 11:39 PM | Link to this
YINZER, I just finished reading your 4:56 comments and I have to ask one question. What kind of mindless, meaningless crap was that? Exactly what was your point, if there was one? What does Vick have to do with the supposed actions of former SB QB’s? This crap could just as easily apply to PManning, or the majority of todays NFL QB’s. Why would you single out Vick? And for your information, PManning was critical of his former read coach, which contributed to his dismissal.
For those of you that feel 6yrs is enough time for Vick to lead us to a SB, check this out. Vick has been a starter FOR 4 of his 6yrs. PManning has been a starter each of his 9yrs in the NFL. Both QB’s have lost in the Div. title gm, with neither taking his team to a SB. Now, applying the same simple minded logic, of those who feel 6yrs is enough time, I guess Indy should have dumped PManning at least 3yrs ago.
If, as most of you HATERS like to claim, Vick can/will never lead us to a SB, after 6yrs(4 as a starter)what does that say about PManning. Most HATERS, and everyone else, sees Manning as a prolific passer, sure fire HOF, dynamic leader, highly intelligent, prototypical QB, that’s surrounded by probowl OFF talent. Yet, none of these attributes, including his high passer and QB ratings, has gotten him any closer to a SB that Vick. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS ONE(1)OBVIOUS FACT YOU ANAL MINDED HATERS FAIL TO GRASP. EVEN THOUGH MANNING POSSESSES THE SKILLS AND LEADERSHIP QUALITIES OF AN OUTSTANDING QB, WHICH YOU CLAIM VICK LACKS, AFTER 9YRS HE HAS PROVEN TO BE AN EVEN BIGGER FAILURE AT GETTING TO THE SB THAN VICK. I GUESS IT REALLY DOES TAKE MORE THAN HOF PASSING STATS, RATINGS, HIGH IQ, LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND BEING SURROUNDED BY PROBOWL TALENT TO BE A SUPERBOWL QB.
By MALONE
January 1, 2007 11:59 PM | Link to this
How many other QBs in the league have led their teams to Conference Championship games? How many other QBs have won a playoff game in Green Bay against Brett Favre?
I think if Vick has noticable problems with the next coach (hopefully a stern taskmaster), then I will entertain the thought that Vick might be the problem. Until then, I think the Mora firing was more than justified:
7-9 with the league’s highest payroll.
off-the-field mouth problems.
a disturbing amount of player discontent and turmoil.
WHO WILL BE THE NEXT COACH!!??
By REDBONE
January 2, 2007 08:34 AM | Link to this
FRANKLY, I’M GLAD THAT MORA IS GONE, BUT I THINK ARTHUR BLANKS SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN RID OF KNAPP AND DONATELL AS WELL. WE NEED A COACH WHO KNOW HOW TO COACH, IN STEAD OF SOMEONE TRYING TO BE EVERYBODY’S FRIEND. NOW DON’T GET ME WRONG, THE PLAYERS HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TOO. THEY HAVE NO DISCIPLINE, THEY ARE A BUNCH OF PARTY BOYS WHO THINK THEY HAVE ARRIVED, BUT THEY ARE A MEDIOCORE TEAM AT BEST. WE HAV THE TALENT TO WIN FOOTBALL GAMES, WE JUST NEED A COACHING STAFF WHO CAN MOLD THESE YOUNG PLAYERS INTO THE SUPERBOWL TEAM I THINK THEY CAN BE. ITS TIME TO STOP PLAYING AND START WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL, QUITE FRANKLY, I’AM TIRED OF BUYING SEASON TICKETS EVERY YEAR TO WATCH THEM LOSE. I DON’T THINK I WILL RENEW MY TICKET THIS YEAR AND WAIT TO SEE WHAT NEXT SEASON HOLDS FOR THE FALCONS.
By yinzer
January 2, 2007 09:42 AM | Link to this
P. Manning has never won a Super Bowl, so it should be obvious to the casual observer that my comments don’t apply to him.
By yinzer
January 2, 2007 09:43 AM | Link to this
Richie Rich: Thanks for proving me right..AGAIN!
By Ken Strickland
January 2, 2007 09:55 AM | Link to this
It is truly amazing how much the lack of intelligent thought and reasoning ability goes into the posts of Vick haters. For example: HATERS:(1)Knapp won’t let Vick audible because he lacks sufficient IQ, or he can’t read DEF’s. INTELLIGENT REASONING:(1A)In order for this to be valid, you have to also believe that 2 of Knapps former HOL QB’s, JMontana & SYoung, were a couple of dump asses, with low IQ’s that couldn’t read DEF’s. HATERS:(1)After 6yrs, Vick has proven he will never lead this, or any other team to a SB. INTEL. REAS:(2A)In order for this to be valid, you have to believe that after 9yrs as a starter, PManning will never lead Indy, or any other team, to a SB. HATERS:(3)Vick is a thug, wears cornrolls, tatoos, earrings, lacks leadership, can’t pass, is a RB,WR,DB etc,etc,etc. INTELL REAS:(3A) PManning, to my knowledge, doesn’t wear any of these things, possesses all of the tools and stats of a prototypical HOF QB. Plus he has straight hair. Yet none of these issues, that HATERS use to justify, and/or hide their true reasons for hating Vick, has launched PManning to SB prominence.
WHEN YOU REMOVE THE ROSE COLORED GLASSES AND SET ASIDE PERSONAL ISSUES, IT APPEARS THAT HATERS ARE THE ONES SUFFERING FROM IQ, AS WELL AS COMPREHENSION ISSUES. THE NFL REQUIRES PLAYERS, ON EACH TEAM, TO WEAR THE SAME UNIFORMS. THEREFORE, THE ISSUE OF RELATING VICKS APPEARANCE, TO ON FIELD PERFORMANCE, IS IRRELEVANT AND OBVIOUSLY HAS THE STENCH OF RACIAL PROFILING(RACISM).
By yinzer
January 2, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
How many quarterbacks have led their teams to a conference championship game? Do the math..40 teams have made the conference championship game in the last 10 years. Counting duplicates (T. Brady, etc.), I would say at least 15-20.
How many quarterbacks have beaten Brett Favre in the playoffs? Again, do the math..Brett Favre has been to the playoffs about 10 times..so that would make 9.
By Ken Strickland
January 2, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
YINZER, I will ask you again, what in hell is your point? Why do you keep making these meaningless posts, of which, you are the absolute master.
By newkid
January 2, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
MALONE, might the Falcons consider going after a defense-minded head coaching prospect like Baltimore’s very aggressive defensive coordinator (Buddy Ryan’s son)? Blank and McKay may wish for the new HC to be a proven commodity on the defensive side of the ball rather than offense. Sort of a HC/DC combo.
Fixing the problems on offense is likely to come down to selecting the appropriate offensive coordinator. Somehow I think McKay will feel a VERY STRONG need to play a much larger role in selecting the OC. I doubt young Ryan would have a problem with McKay deciding what offensive scheme(s) will work best with current talent, then slecting the best available OC who has history of teaching/coaching that offense.
Don’t be too surprised if Oakland drafts Calvin Johnson with the first pick, then makes a deal with Atlanta to get Schaub to get the ball down field to CJ. With a Schaub a QB, and CJ coupled with a Moss, Oakland could really get back to stretching the field the way Al Davis likes. I don’t see Davis casting his lot with a rookie quarterback when he could have someone with Schaub’s skills and time in the league; all this stuff about the Raiders selecting Quinn ain’t likely to materialize. A Raiders/Falcons deal might look something like this: the Raiders send their ‘08 1st round pick along with ‘07 3rd round pick, plus Jerry Porter to the Falcons in exchange for Schaub. Other players might get included on both sides so that we don’t have an overload at WR.
The Falcons will likely select a very aggressive safety or an OL with the 10th pick in the draft. If the HC turns out to be Ryan from Baltimore, my guess is the 1st pick will be a safety of the Ed Reid type (e.g., someone like that Nelson kid).
By rufus
January 2, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
The 2006 Falcons were not the best by far, but at the same time they were not the worst. I’ve been in Atlanta for 30 years. Instead of joining in on all the bickering and name calling, I want to applaud the Falcons bringing back Morten Andersen,an eight-time Pro Bowler who has played the most NFL games of any player with 354. Each time Mort kicks a ball through the uprights he breaks an NFL record - his own. Thanks Mort for coming back to the Falcons. One player that sure needs to continue to play for the Falcons = Mort
By Ken Strickland
January 2, 2007 01:20 PM | Link to this
NEWKID, glad to see you post on this blog. As usual, you always bring insightful ideas and questions. Allow me to ask you a question. What do you think we can expect from RWhite next yr? For most of the season he was an embarrassment, especially to himself. After being demoted, and dropping that sure TD pass against NO, he upped his level of concentration and commitment, instead of retreating. He hasn’t dropped a single pass since, and has made some tough receptions. Like Finneran, he does get open and gets yds after the catch. Finneran, White and Crumpler could give secondaries a lot of trouble with their size and ability. What do you think?
By Coach Killer 7
January 2, 2007 01:54 PM | Link to this
CK7’s press conference after the game:
“Misson accomplished (again)! And don’t think I won’t take down coaching staff #3. It ain’t no thang for me to throw a whole coaching staff under the bus to try to make the haters think I don’t suck. Hell, I’ve done it to my O-line, my receivers, my defense…don’t think I ain’t got enough fingers left to point some at the coaches too! I got like 8 more after pointing em at the other 3 places! No wait, I think it’s 6…or is it 7? Whatever, no one ever accused me of being smart. All I gotta do is run the ball and make sure they keep the QB beside my name and these morons in the ATL will eat it up!”
Hopefully the morons in the ATL are about to prove CK7 wrong. I never thought I would see a Falcons QB complete 15 passes in one half…or complete over 70% of his passes for a game. Schaub just surpassed 2 games worth for Vick in one half.
Note to Mora and staff for your next jobs: Coach Killers can’t kill you if you leave them on the bench.
By newkid
January 2, 2007 03:10 PM | Link to this
Ken, we all know - from his own words - that Mr. Blank isn’t pleased (nor should he be) with the productivity of the trio of 1st round wideouts he’s paying, Roddy included. I think he and McKay will likely try and move one of them in the Schaub deal IF there’s a possibility of getting a ‘more reliable’ receiver in addition to the draft picks (for example someone like Porter). I suspect Mr. Blank feels his current collection of talent can win NOW - and I beleive he’s correct in that view - if he has proper coaching and reliable pieces at critical positions like wideout. I doubt he’ll be happy waiting for POtential to be realized by White, Jenkins, AND Lelie. Someone’s gotta be replaced to get the IMMEDIATE reliability to complement Finneran and Crumpler.
If I’m the trading partner (and if the money is about the same) the order of my preference would be Lelie, White, Jenkins. Lelie has shown in Denver that he can produce; jury’s still somewhat out on Roddy; Jenkins has had enough years in the league for everyone to know what he has to offer (not very much). Lelie may not be the Falcons ‘property’ to trade; if not then IMO White’s the guy some GMs will see as a potential steal because of his drops this season. I suspect McKay would be less than disappointed with a Porter replacing White in the receiving corps of a team that thinks it could make a run in ‘07 and beyond.
By Ken Strickland
January 2, 2007 03:25 PM | Link to this
MVick is apparently killing more than just coaches. Just reading posts by ANAL MINDED HATERS, like COACH KILLER 7, shows they are being eaten up inside by Vick and the Mora firing. I love it when these morons display their hurt feelings and sensabilities with these sad, pathetic posts. Good work Vick, just keep digging deep inside these HATERS sick psychi. I’ll need something amusing to read, until the 07 season starts, and these emotionally charged, jockular posts will suffice just fine. COME ON ALL YOU HATERS, KEEP ME HAPPY.
By Ken Strickland
January 2, 2007 05:04 PM | Link to this
Thanks for responding so quickly NEWKID. I think the key to our overall success next yr will be based on our DEF. One of the articles mentioned the possibility of going to a 3-4 DEF to save cap space. Our DE’s aren’t big or physical enough for that DEF. With better scheming and utilization of talent, and if everyone plays up to his potential, we will make the playoffs.
The amount of early season struggles will be based on if, or how much, the new HC/OC wants to change the OFF and/or OLine. With 3 OL under long term contracts, I can see only 2 possible changes, Gandy @ RT and Lehr @ LG. The rest will be dependent on how fast they adjust to a new blocking scheme. Forney, McClure, Wiener and Gandy have been successful playing in a traditional blocking scheme.
If we don’t have a big personel turnover, and there aren’t any drastic changes, I can see a repeat of the 2004 season under Mora.
By newkid
January 3, 2007 08:33 AM | Link to this
Ken said “If we don’t have a big personel turnover, and there aren’t any drastic changes, I can see a repeat of the 2004 season under Mora.” I’m right there with you buddy. On field talent pool will need ‘a little’ tweaking, but I think your perspective is on target.
BTW, I see you’re getting quite a load of exercise ‘swimming upstream’ on this blog. Hang in there.
By falcon 30901
January 3, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this
how often do we go to the georgia dome and hear brookings on the tackle and isnt even on the same side of the feel. he is knocked back 7 yards on his butt after being hit by the running back with the ball. lol. or he is chasing a running back or tight end out of bounds 15 yards down the field. lol. i think brookings is a coach killer. shaub in one half. fumbled a snap. tripped over his feet. threw 2 intercetions. one of which the my momma could have caught, but the defender dropped. lol. you guys are funny. keep up the post im enjoying my day off. lol
By Joe Herren, Dallas, GA
January 11, 2007 09:40 AM | Link to this
We need a quarterback whose strength is quarterbacking….Vicks’ strength is not quarterbacking it’s the fight or flight reflex that’s his strength, more specifically the flight reflex.