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A chilling forecast

Hope everybody had a Merry Christmas and is having a happy holiday season. It wasn’t too happy around Flowery Branch this morning, as the cold breeze and grey skies seemed to find their way inside the compound.

Players were off today but coach Jim Mora held a news conference in which he spent part of the time going over the improvements and accomplishments the team has made under his watch. There are no arguing the numbers, 26-21 overall record, improvements in the offensive and defensive statistics.

However, those might not mean too much to owner Arthur Blank, whose most recent image was his desperate-for-a-win team playing before thousands of empty seats at the Georgia Dome, getting skunked by a reeling Carolina Panthers team that only threw the ball 7 times.

Seven times.

Mora admitted today that Atlanta waited a series too late to adjust defensively. The coaching staff also waited too late to get the proper personnel on the field, twice, costing the team a first down and a 12-men-on-the-field penalty. There seemed to also be a problem figuring out a direct-snap-to-the-running back play, that the Panthers ran successfully at least six times.

Sunday, Mora acknowledged that there were inconsistencies in the flow of the offense, something quarterback Michael Vick, who did not play a good game, took to another level in his post game news conference.

Vick basically said that the game-plan/play-calling was scattershot and with the offense getting so few opportunities because of Carolina dominating possession, there seemed to be no rhyme or reason to what the offense was doing.

Vick rarely speaks critically of anybody or anything so when he decided to fire off those salvos, he could have been speaking on behalf of several players. Some guys did not want to speak on the record, but there was some complaining about play calls and how certain personnel was used and not used, especially in short-yardage situations.

Even though he was responding to questions, Vick also knew that Blank was in the news conference when he said what he said (Blank attends every post game news conference at home and on the road), so he knew it would have impact.

Mora said he did not read or hear Vick’s comments. If he honestly didn’t, then he’s going to get blindsided when they are brought to his attention in full context.

Since going 11-5 in his first season, Mora is 15-16. Last season was 8-8 with no playoffs. A season-ending loss at Philadelphia Sunday could mean 7-9 with no playoffs. Some of the statistics might be getting better but the ones that matter, wins, aren’t.

The Falcons have to win in Philly Sunday to get to 8-8. A victory, with losses or ties by the Giants, Packers, Rams and Panthers get the Falcons in, but that’s a whole lot of ifs, especially since Atlanta can’t seem to handle its business when it has to.

If the Falcons lose and/or don’t make the playoffs, it might be tough for Mora to keep his job, not only because of the wins and losses, but some of the non-football related stuff, such as the recent radio interview in which he said (supposedly joking) that he would love to coach the University of Washington.

Blank did not take kindly to that and with the season going awry, that might be the deal breaker for Mora and his staff.

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By aqg17

December 26, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

it’s a sad situation. i’m a season ticket holder and i like mora, but when its time it time. his comments, tow huge collapses at the ends of the year and he has to go. i don’t know who we bring in but hopefully they will get rid of the zone blocking crap and bring in some 350 lbers to protect our franchise.

By David-ATL14

December 26, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

Mora’s toast,but nothing changes until Vick is gone. New Coach won’t be able to overcome the mediocrity of Vick.

This is what happens when a non elite player gets a Franchise killing contract.

By don

December 26, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

Think back: Back to back loses to stinking Detroit and Cleveland. Humiliation-TWICE-at the hands of the Saints. Blow the Dallas game. Then that abomination on Sunday!

Just give me a team that’s not embarrasing to watch. Give me HOUSTON for crying out loud!

Please lose at Philly to ensure we cannot get humiliated in a wild card game.

This sucks.

By batrol

December 26, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Vick’s nothing to brag about that’s for sure but the Falcons must have the worst coached offensive line in all of the NFL. Tom Cable is a total fat a*, total bust as a “coach.”

By Los72

December 26, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Good coaching will overcome some injuries but in todays game adjustments are to be made on every snap. Look forward to the future before we get another coach lets finally draft an offensive line so we can be more competive on game days instead of a disfunctional group of players. The game of football is won by dominating at the line of scrimmage.

By Boots

December 26, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

Vick is attempting to throw his coaches under the bus with his self-serving remarks. If Vick had any integrity, he would accept personal responsibility for his own shortcomings and allow the public, who has sense to see and understand the poor coaching decisions, to arrive at their own conclusions. Vick is a survivor who will outlast this and other coaches until his contract expires or he’s too old to juke and jive around the field. Changing coaches will not change the results for Vick. I’d truly like to see a quality black coach come on the scene, so the racial implications can be put to rest once and for all time.

By MELO

December 26, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

Racial implications? There are none, because Vick is mediocre, the coaches are so so, we do not have good receivers(many dropped passes during the year) and I am black!

So what racial implications/reasons do yu all have?

By Chris M.

December 26, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

I believe that Arthur Blank will give Mora one more season to turn it around. It looks like knapp and donatel are gone for sure, but Mora will get one more season.

Vick is not the problem and his contract is not the problem either. The play calling sucks and it will not be better until they get some new blood in there.

Maybe they can find a decent O coordinator to actually use the offensive weapons that we have. Why not use Freddie Mac and Justin G. when we are at 3rd or 4th and 1 instead of throwing it downfield.

Go Falcons in 2008.

By Birdy

December 26, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Very interesting report, Steve.

I agreethe team is losing the physical battle up front, basically being physically dominated by playoff caliber teams as the season progresses. And the biggest contributer to this embarrassing mismatch is the strategy someone put in place to be a smaller team in the trenches and at running back than everyone else.

This defies common sense, and it defies basic NFL historical results. And, if you would look at the OLines and RBs of the teams that have pounded us, they’ve got more size than ours.

We deliberately pick up the leftover linemen then run a 170 lb waif in short-yardage situations. This has to infuriate the other players on the team who know better!

Check out the physical stats of the Olines and RBs of New Orleans, Cowboys and Philly and it will be no mystery why this team has scored only 2 TDs in the 4th qtr all year (2 60+ yd runs by Norwood). We cannot wear anyone down.

**Reminder: Be sure to pick up today’s (2/26/2006) print version of the AJC. A 1/4 page ad by “The 12th Man” (the fans) runs on pg. 2 of the Sports section. The fans care about this team and, unfortunately, some individuals entrusted with the awesome opportunity to lead it have not lived up to those responsibilities.

The fans have had their voices heard.**

By CK

December 26, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

I just want to clarify the playoff scenario for everyone. Starting next year the Falcons will be in their own Division… The Division will be the NFC Vick. It has been determined that Vick is a one of a kind quarterback and deserves the opportunity to be in his own Division.

The Falcons will only be required to win one game and they will earn an automatic berth.

Jim Mora was relieved to learn that his job is safe for at least one more year provided the Falcons make the playoffs.

Special athletes deserve special consideration was the league commissioners response during the press conference.

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 26, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

I don’t necessarily mind Vick making those comments, because like it or not he’s right. The Falcons have enough talent to make a Super Bowl run but they straight up got outcoached on both sides of the ball Sunday, just like they have most of the year. What Vick said is nothing new — many people on these blogs, including myself, have been saying those same things many times throughout the year. I get the feeling many players have felt this way for a while, but were unwilling to speak up because they are friends with Mora and don’t want to make him look bad.

But I would have liked to see him take more personal responsibility for the loss though — he’s done it before, but I would have liked to see it after this game. Looking at his performance over the course of the season, he probably played his worst overall game against the Browns, but this Sunday was probably his 2nd worst game of the year. A lot of this year’s Falcons losses haven’t been Vick’s fault, but I would place the blame for the Browns loss and the Panthers loss pretty squarely on Vick’s shoulders. The Falcons had a chance to win this game — to go 60 yards in 3:48 is not asking too much out of an NFL offense. And despite some terrible play-calling, they did have a manageable 3rd down play on which Vick made a poor throw, and a 4th down play where the pass was batted down. Those are plays an elite QB must make in the NFL.

I still think Vick is part of the solution, not the problem — the people calling for his head conveniently forget that he threw 4 touchdown passes last week when the play-calling coincidentally was better. You don’t get rid of the talented player to suit the terrible coach’s system, like Terry Bradshaw suggests the Falcons do. And as usual, the coaching decisions on Sunday hurt the team a lot. But at the end of the day, Vick had a chance to “overcome coaching” on the final drive and he didn’t — he’s gotta take responsibility for that.

By slinky

December 26, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

Blank better keep Mora, no self respecting coach will take the Falcons’ job as long as there is a star that is above the team and coaches. Let’s face it, Blank likes the money from Vick more than the wins.

Look for Vick to quit this Sunday. He quit on Reeves until he was sure he would be fired, he will quit on Mora to seal his fate as well.

By jack

December 26, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

I do not know about this Vick vs Schaub, who is the better etc. Both have game and certain talents. At this point, I am ready to try Schaub. Size, meaning heigth and bulk, excellent field vision, arm, intelligence, some experience. Comes from a winning program. Patience and loyal. Vick cannot hit a barnyard door at close range passing….Yes, he can run. On coaching. Mora has lost the discipline of the team. They all look lost, coaches and players. If Mora stays, we will keep losing. How cottenpickinhard is that to understand. FIRE THE ENTIRE STAFF. We are better off to start fresh. There is a LOT of talent being wasted by these BOZOs.

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 26, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

And like Birdy says, looking at the bigger picture the schemes and ideas this team has implemented have had little or no success in the NFL. This team is undersized at nearly every position except WR, TE and Grady Jackson — nearly every successful NFL team at least had size on the offensive and defensive lines. This team got worn down in the 2nd half of the season last year because it was undersized. This year they are showing the same signs — with the notable exception of Grady Jackson. Is it a coincidence that Grady could fit the rest of the defensive line in his stomach? I don’t think so.

Finesse zone blocking on the goal line. 4 man rush and no blitzing by a defense missing its best defensive end. Zone coverage from a secondary with an elite man cover corner. Warrick Dunn as your goal-line back. Throwing fade routes to your inconsistent WRs in the end zone instead of your elite TE. I-formations in short-yardage despite an offensive line that can’t power run-block. Not using more spread formations when your greatest asset on offense clearly is speed. These are just a few examples of the highly idiotic schemes and ideas devised by this coaching staff. And that doesn’t even get into how they have mismanaged Vick’s development as a passer.

By blq byrd

December 26, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

I’ve held out judgement on Mora because I was more disappointed with his coordinators and their ridiculous playcalling. After Sunday’s debacle and his comments of a week ago I am convinced that his loyalties lie elsewhere and that he gets no respect from his subordinates. The team came out for the fifth time this year and looked completely lost and lifeless. A team shows you that they have no intention of throwing the ball and on several plays they did not even bother to put their qb in the game, still we fail to stop them from gaining large chunks of yards even when they were forced to go for it on third and long they were always successful. I was so disgusted by Sunday’s performance that I am not sure that I will bother to watch next weeks game considering that I already no that atleast two aspects of our team won’t show anyway.

falcons gon1!

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 26, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

Vick “quit on Reeves”? Yeah, I guess he two-wayed Adalius Thomas before the Falcons-Ravens preseason game and asked him to break his leg. Nice try.

By This gets old

December 26, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Can we stop talking about race on this blog?? Vick had a bad game but so does every QB? People in the league, the actual NFL, think that Vick is a great player so I’m not even going to argue that. Vick’s not ging anywhere.

If the Falcons are a running team then run the damned ball. Obviously other players think as Vick does.

The signs have been everywhere for two seasons now. The Falcons last season in week 11 had to practice tackling. Special teams this year, weak (yes injuries hurt special teams) but the DB play is abysmal.

McKay has made some mistakes also and what’s troubling is that some of the same flaws that we have now are the same ones that the Bucs had.

Nobody had to throw Mora under a bus, he jumped. Always a first qtr. timeout and down on the scoreboard before the offense even gets going. Mora was hired to fix this defense and he hasn’t.

Blank has two reasons that he has to fire Mora.

The record, No fans ANYWHERE will accept a coach speaking like that, joking or not. Thay want a coach who’s one of them and Mora even if he is made it seem as if he’s not. His fault, nobody else.

By Gman

December 26, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

I agree with Boots, Vick is covering his own tail here; I was in Alabama for the holidays and missed the game, but I couldn’t believe when i got home and saw the AJC sports page headline “Even Vick Boos Debacle.” What the @@#$, who is he booing, himself for going 9-21 with 2 picks?? When he flicked off the fans I changed my opinion of him; a QB in the NFL is gonna get booed if he doesnt perform, period. As Don Shula said last nite, “the QB position is the most important position on the field, he sets the tone for the rest of the team.” I think the media makes excuses for his lackluster play, the O-line, the receivers, play-calling, now its the coaches. Mora is gonna get canned; so his daddy was actually correct on the coach killer bit, and his dad got so much pressure from all sides for saying it that he quit. I don’t care if Vick is black; if he was white he woulda been on the bench already, b/c it AINT about color, its about stats and performance in the NFL. Next year is yr #7 for Mr. Vick if I am not mistaken, and Mora wont let him audible….that ain’t leadng on the field……we have some work to do for next year, I dont think we win at Philly this weekend…..

Also, to all you other season tix holders; i am assuming everyone just got their season ticket holder decals like myself, what the hell is that all about, it is week 16 and we finally get ‘em, with a sappy note attached claiming “quality issues” held up the delivery? Thats a load of bull, guarantee u could get those decals printed and mailed in a week. I dont think I am too happy with the whole franchise right now, and am beginning to think Mora’s comments about Washington actually carry more weight than I first thought.

By dirrtybird

December 26, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

What a joke. Millions of dollars brings any self respecting coach to the sidelines. There are coaches chomping at the bit to design an offense around Vick instead of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. These aren’t the right coaches for this team. Plain and simple. They had three years. They got worse every year. Next year. Next Coach.

By Tyrone Willingham

December 26, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

If the Falcons job opens up, I will be there with my resume in hand ready to take that job. It doesn’t even matter if I’m available. … I don’t care if we’re in the middle of a the WeSuckBowl, I’m packing my stuff and coming to Atlanta. Don’t get me wrong, I think Mora’s doing a fantastic job, there, but if for what ever reason he decided to move on, I’m there in Atlanta.

Take that JIM MORoN !

By Boots

December 26, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

I SIMPLY DON’T GET IT1 EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH TALENT THE TEAM HAS WHEN THEY ONLY BEAT ONE TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD. YOU CAN BLAME IT ON THE COACHES, INJURIES OR WHATEVER, BUT IN REALITY THEY ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM. THEY ARE MEDIOCRE AT BEST. AND, WHAT IS THIS “ELITE” CRAP VICK IS TALKING ABOUT? THEY DID NOT BEAT BUT ONE TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD. BLAME IT ON THE COACHES, INJURIES OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY SUCK!

By VICK HATER

December 26, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

THIS IS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT THINK WE HAVE THE TALENT TO GO TO THE SUPERBOWL.HA.HA.HA. WHEN YOU GET INTO THE NFL YOU SHOULD BE AT THE TOP OF YOUR GAME TALENT WISE. WHAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IS THE DESIRE TO EXCELL AND BE A WINNER. THESE BUNCH OF LOOSERS ( AND VICK IS ON TOP OF THE LIST) DO NOT WANT TO PUT OUT THE EFFORT TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND OUT COACHING STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO PUT A FOOT UP SOMEONES A** OR KICK HIM OFF FOR NOT PERFORMING. WE DESPERATELY NEED A BILL PARCELLS NO NON-SENSE TYPE OF COACH TO STRAIGHTEN THESE LOOSERS OUT.

By Larry

December 26, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

Najeh,

Finally you muster the courage to call out Vick for poor play. Until now you’re steadfastly defended him.

I stand in awe and amazement. I’m also proud of you for your honesty. I will no longer refer to you as “Poop-for-brains.” The poop has been replace with a refreshingly sincere prespective and understaning.

Best of all, I agree with you!

Larry

Larry

By Pigskinmutt

December 26, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

Blank got what he wanted. A coach by committee. Who will come in to replace Mora? Another coach by committee of course certainly not someone who will call the shots. Blank is making money with Vick as his lead guy. We won’t go to a super bowl but most games will be exciting and Blank will keep the stands full of Vick supporters. Blank is making money guys…

By dirrtybird

December 26, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

Boots,

There are 11 Pro Bowlers on our team. Only Baltimore has more. That’s talent. I f you can’t coach 11 Pro Bowlers to the playoffs for 2 years in a row, then you simply don’t know what you’re doing. Plain and simple. 11 Pro Bowlers.

By Peter

December 26, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

No coach can fire two coordinators and maintain any type respect. The seven direct snaps scream “fire me!”

Even we as fans can see that playcalling seems as if it’s done by an escaped mental patient. They never seem as if they’re ready to start the game.

It’s a weak division in a weak conference and ordinarily I wouldn’t fire Mora any more than John Fox. However as a fan (and a paying one) I don’t want a guy who seemingly is genetically incapable for keeping his foot out of his a$$.

By Zenith

December 26, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

Defense and physical play take teams to the Super Bowl. And dirrtybird is right. A lot of young guys who would want to coach Vick.

By BEEN THERE

December 26, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

Blah, blah, blah …. tired of hearing about all this “talent”. SHOW ME. SHOW ME. That No. 72 is a joke…easier for him to grab somebody than to block. And D. Hall ……. somebody tell me WHY this guy is a Pro Bowler!

By GM R

December 26, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

Improvements? Who is Mora kidding? The Falcons have the same record as Green Bay in a year when they were supposed to be going for it all. And as for MV7 - take a look around a see how other QBs are developing after 2 or 3 years while he is regressing after 6. Put a spy on him to limit his runs and force him into short passing situations and there goes the offense. 3 points against Carolina and it’s the fault of the defense?

By blq byrd

December 26, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this

I don’t know if many of you out there have noticed…. the Falcons are not the only team hovering around the .500 mark. That has alot to do with the PARITY that the commissioner wanted and he has finally got it. I think that the biggest problem that many of us Falcon fans have with our teams medicore record has more to do with how bad we have looked getting there. Everybody from the fans of the team from around the country to the radio, t.v and newspaper journalists and even fans of the game in general that could give a rats a@@ about the Falcons have questioned the playcalling of the Falcons. I mean trying to run the smallest back in the league up the middle time and time again during short yardage situations just dose not make any sense especially since it hase’nt worked for you in the first place. How about deciding not rush the qb anymore because it was working when you did it earlier in the game? I tell ya, every week I watch the Falcons it looks more and more like the coaches are deliberately trying to loose those games because a retard would not call some of the plays that this coaching staff calls.

I’ll say this again…. Mike Vick is not the problem of the Falcons, sure he has had some bad games(and has made some boneheaded plays aswell) but I challenge anyone out there to show me one qb that has’nt had a bad game or two througout the season. There is not one perfect qb out there because they just like the rest of us are HUMAN. On the otherhand, our coaching staff makes atleast 15 ridiculous calls each and every game. There lies our problem.

If we want to be taken seriously and be respected we have to win consistently and convinc’ling week after week. That’s it, plain and simple.

Falcons gone!

By Tim

December 26, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

It’s time for the Falcons to go away for a few months. This organization is synonomous with mediocrity and basically always has been. Blank hasn’t changed anything really. He’s created an illusion of having a better team on the field, but the record speaks for itself. Mike Vick this. Mike Vick that. Jim Mora this. Jim Mora that. Blah blah blah. Same old Falcons. They suck just like they did when the Smiths owned them. This team isn’t going anywhere except home for the a few months. Just go away Falcons and STFU.

By kenny d

December 26, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

dirrtybird:

you keep posting that the falcons have 11 pro bowlers as if that says that we have talent. the reality is that we merely have 7-8 talent. the coaches are terrible but the talent McKay and Blank have given this team are just not cutting it.

pro bowlers:

vick - inconsistent but not a leader. i will stick with him to the ugly, bitter end though.

Dunn: undersized, absolutely useless in the red zone, short yardage. he is completely crippling this team in those situations.

Crump: no problems, the drops notwithstanding.

Kerney: injured all year thanks to steroids.

Abraham: injured all year thanks to steroids as he has been injured his whole career.

Coleman: a great flash in the pan 2 years ago and little remarkable since.

Brooking: an above average linebacker at best. not a difference maker or a playmaker.

DHALL - not really a pro bowler this year. great talent, big mouth, not enough production. all the catches caught in front of him are the fault of the defensive scheme but getting beat deep is his fault.

Lawyer - over the hill and just an average good safety at this point, nowhere near the difference maker and great play maker he was 5 years ago.

Grady - sorry najeh, this guy was also a big reason for the loss the other day. he kept blowing assignments, kept getting pushed off the ball by one lineman, was not hogging up two linemen at a time, thereby letting lineman have free shots at shoving the weak, undersized glorified safeties DWILL & Boley all over the field.

Hurtwell is always hurt and is stealing money.

By The Professor

December 26, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

The Falcons lead the league in a couple of categories - something like 19 games where if they’re behind at start of the 4th quarter they lose the game? And Vick hasn’t thrown a TD pass in the 4th quarter in something like 20 games? Not the signs of a good team…

The players might “like” Mora but they don’t respect him. Things will only get worse unless changes are made…

By Titothebear

December 26, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Boots,

If you don’t want any racial implications, why are you talking about hiring a coach of African ancestry? Seems to me racial implications are about all that’s keeping Vick in a job. His performance last Sunday was vintage Vick. He feigned frustration, retreated from the rush of questions and pre-empted any criticism of himself when he offered up the sacrifice of the game plan. The guy can not play! What more needs to be seen to confirm this? Nothing! It’s time to dump Vick, sign Schaub and fire Mora and the rest of the Foucons coaches and executive hierarchy. Start over! Do it now. Make a break with this horrible past that keeps overwhelming the present!

By Kudzu

December 26, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

Mora and his staff need “to go” along with his sorry a** quarterback. Vick has been consistently average; you don’t blame that on the coach. For the record Vicks coach has coddled him relentlessly, now look. Mora’s daddy is right!

Great QB’s find ways to win and find ways to lead their team to victory. Vick does neither one… but average, at best. So freaking what if he sets a rushing record…so what. His team is failing and he does not have the wherewithall to do anything about it, but complain.

Blank, “CLEAN HOUSE”!

By To Hell with the Falcons, To Heaven with Erin Andrews

December 26, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

enough with the posting boys. erin andrews is on the market. her best companion is her television. i say that you all need to step away from your laptops and chase after the dear sweet erin. maybe, just maybe, if we all pursue her one of us will be just lucky enough to get ourselves that little gift from god who is currently slumming it with a little television she is calling a big screen television.

TO HELL WITH THE FALCONS AND TO HEAVEN WITH ERIN ADREWS!!!!

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 26, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

Larry, it doesn’t take any “courage” for me to criticize or defend Vick, because I don’t know him. It doesn’t take any “courage” for anyone to write things on an online message board where nobody knows each other. I really could care less whether other people like him or not. I come here to state my own opinions, not to insult other people. Unlike you, I don’t need to come on an internet message board and insult people I don’t know to improve my self-esteem.

That wasn’t the first time I criticized Vick — I blamed him for the Browns loss too. But like I said, he is still part of the solution, not part of the problem. The only problem this team has is the coaching staff — a good coaching staff will have this team in the playoffs again.

And of course, the difference between me and you is that I criticize players when they play badly, whereas you criticize players when they wear cornrows and tattoos instead of flannel shirts and mullets.

By Huh?

December 26, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

the falcons players were off today? were they also off yesterday, too? it sure looks like they took christmas eve off as well!!! When you absolutely must win sunday and pray that 3 other teams lose, is it really a great idea to take days off in the week leading up to the game? it is hard to imagine why fans often think that more coddles these mediocre players

By dirrtybird

December 26, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

Kenny D,

I’m quite sure you’ll only find one post of mine mentioning 11 Pro Bowlers. They are pro bowlers nonetheless. Who are you to accuse people that have never tested positive of using steroids? Coleman a flash in the pan? You’re kidding yourself at this point. The only thing I agree with in your post is Dhall. All Mouf. Lawyer has a been a great leader for this team that desperately needs veteran leadership. Is Grady a Pro Bowler? I don’t think so. Now let me tell you who you missed.

Ike Reese Allen Rossum Morten Anderson

Sounds like you’d probably have problems with Morten Anderson too.

Get your facts straight. Thanks for coming out. God bless and good night.

By ja

December 26, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this

Blank, McKay need to sit down with the leaders on this team and find out what they need in coaching and what they need in personel to win.

The players need to have a role in this. If the nucleous of this team is going to stay in tact so we can have a winner quickly. They need to discuss the type of pride they want Falcon Football to have and that player accountability is number one. If you don’t make plays your gone.

If the players say they can win with Mora keep him. He knows what the strengths of the players are, however the coordinators have to go period. Certain players who did not perform will need to leave as well. I can tell you one thing guys like: Milloy, Brooking, Vick know what they need to win. McKay can only look at the Fact analysis and draw conclusions. Key players need to have more of a stake in the decisions of the organization to build the success of this team. Vick needs to be sat down with McKay and Blank then he needs to tell him what offense he is the most comfortable with. Seems play action passes work to his strength so then get someone that is a play action pass guru that can design an offense around his strengths. It is about the players being involved, without it this core group will be decimated over time for a new scheme and then you are spinning your wheels. This is the offseason we will see if Management has the capacity to do what they need to do to win.

By Ken Strickland

December 26, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

I don’t think our OLine is the problem, nor is it all that bad. Far too many times, our OC puts them in no win situations. The reason we usually fail on short yardage situations isn’t because we run the ball. That’s what you should do in those situations, but not the way we do it. Knapp always uses some form of stretch play which requires a deep handoff. That gives the DEF time to read, react, get penetration, and get more players involved.

Since the FB is closer to the line, a quick handoff would be much more effective. The DEF would have less time to read, react and penetrate. The OLine would have the advantage, and players playing off the line wouldn’t be a factor. Knapp refuses to use Griffin in any run situations, let along short yardage, and he’s the NFL’s best running FB?

(C)McClure, (T)Weiner and (G)Forney started and pass blocked effectively under Reeves. Gandy has definitely proven himself as a pass blocker in a traditional system. It’s the scheme and untenuable situations that’s causing problems for the OLine. Our OLine is big enough and good enough to provide adequate pass protection, but not against 7-8 blitzing defenders. That’s how DEF’s play us on passing downs. Knapp makes it worse by not allowing audibles, not using our RB’s as options, and not spreading the OFF with 3-4 REC packages on abvious passing downs.

For those that are obsessed with blaming one player for the teams overall failures, feel free to waste you time and venum any way you choose. For those interested in identifying the teams real problems, look at the weakest link in the chain, the coaching staff.

By uno

December 26, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

Coach Killer 7 strikes again! Who will he throw under the bus after sucking again next week? You would think 130 mil would bring a little personal accountability with it, but apparently not in CK7’s mind…it’s always someone else — the coach, the receivers, the o-line, the defense, etc. I guess that’s easier than admitting the truth — that Mora Sr. was 100% right.

By FrustratedFalconsFan

December 26, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

These blogs are getting a bit old. It never ceases to amaze me how many Vick haters there are in this city? Although Vick is the QB of the Falcons, it is the coaches who determines who should be on the field. And if Vick is not getting the job done, then its an issue of coaching for allowing him to remain on the field. YOU CANNOT BLAME VICK, JUST LIKE YOU CANNOT BLAME JASON WEBSTER for his lousy play because the COACHES determine who are the best players to win games for this team. If the wrong players are allowed to continue to play without consequences, then the failure of the team rests squarely on the shoulders of the COACHING STAFF. For those of you who do not understand this basic fundamental principle, then you should not waste everyone’s time with your racially charged misdirected babble.

Jim Mora and his crew has been given far more than most in the NFL, yet has achieved perhaps the least. To top it off, Mora shows his appreciation by spouting off his desire to coach elsewhere. That’s leadership? Also, this guys NEVER takes responsibilty for the failures of this team. Sure he talks about it, but rarely if ever follows it up with appropriate action. Players are not disciplined, Coordinators are clueless, and the coach himself is often saying things that he has to later apologize for. And all Jim Mora can do is continue to show blind loyalty to this type of operation. With this type of leadership, what can we realistically expect from the team?

Until the coaching situation is resolved, this team will continue to be UNDERACHIEVERS!!!

By The Professor

December 26, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this

Each loss has been by an average of more than 12 points - another sign of a bad team. We haven’t even been competitive for the most part. I’m surprised Mora didn’t say “One area we’re improving in is by how much we lose by. We only lost to Carolina by 7.” It started in his first year with blow-out at KC (at least we bounced back against Denver the next game) and then has become more common the past two seasons. For the most part I think this team doesn’t know how to win (and it’s part of the legacy unfortunately)…

By Dave

December 26, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this

I am so tired of hearing this nonsense about Vick being terrible or that the team’s mediocrity is because of Vick. The only reason the Falcons are not 2-14 or worse the past 2 years is BECAUSE of Mike Vick. I am equally tired of this bullsh#% about wishing we had a “real” quarterback like Peyton Manning or some garbage like that. If not for Vick’s unbelievable mobility, he would be paralyzed. There is NO pass protection, and if Peyton Manning or Drew Brees was our quarterback, the offense would be even more disastrous than it is.

Our offensive line can’t block to save their lives (or our quarterback’s). That can be blamed on the linemen themselves, the poor coaching, or Rich McKay (he’s the idiot mostly responsible for selecting the players we are going into battle with. The one person that cannot be blamed on is Mike Vick. At times he almost makes the line look adequate, and that’s hard to do.

Vick also can’t be blamed for the fact that our receivers seem to be allergic to the football. Peyton Manning could not make the losers that make up our receiving corps look good. Again, that can be blamed on the receivers themselves, the poor coaching, or Rich McKay (the moron who keeps using first round draft picks on these idiots. The Falcons could have had Reggie Brown from Georgia for crying out loud, but instead the chose Roddy White. Look how that panned out…Reggie Brown is a star in Philly and they recently gave him a hefty contract extension. I personally think it would be worth it for the Falcons to pay Roddy White his bloated salary in exchange for NOT even showing up in our games. Good one Rich.) Again, you can’t blame Vick because our receivers can’t catch.

Then there’s the defense. Nothing you can say that hasn’t already been said, but this past game against Carolina pretty much sums up the entire sorry season for them: Carolina threw the ball JUST SEVEN times and won the game. I’m going to say that again: Carolina threw the ball JUST SEVEN times and won. Sure, Carolina didn’t put up an insurmountable amount of points, but they had possession of the ball for nearly 2/3 of the game. That’s not exactly giving your offense a whole lot of opportunities to do their job. Again, you can blame that on a lot of people, but you can’t blame that on Mike Vick. Hell, Vick threw FOUR touchdown passes against the Cowboys and that still wasn’t nearly enough to overcome the defense, who only gave up 38 f$&%in points. The past 2 games have just been icing on the cake for a defense that has allowed the most mediocre offenses look like SuperBowl contenders.

Vick is nowhere near perfect, but he can’t be blamed for the fact that the Falcons are garbage. The reason the Falcons are garbage is because for the most part, with very few exceptions, everyone in the organization from the General Manager down to the waterboys are are garbage. Vick has many shortcomings, but if the Falcons axed him tomorrow they would be WORSE, not better. Regardless of what people want to believe, the Falcons are not that talented. Most of the players are overrated and just aren’t good enough to compete without a lot of heart. Unfortunately, when you watch this team it is obviously that they have none.

By Titothebear

December 26, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Boots,

If you don’t want any racial implications, why are you talking about hiring a coach of African ancestry? Seems to me racial implications are about all that’s keeping Vick in a job. His performance last Sunday was vintage Vick. He feigned frustration, retreated from the rush of questions and pre-empted any criticism of himself when he offered up the sacrifice of the game plan. The guy can not play! What more needs to be seen to confirm this? Nothing! It’s time to dump Vick, sign Schaub and fire Mora and the rest of the Foucons coaches and executive hierarchy. Start over! Do it now. Make a break with this horrible past that keeps overwhelming the present!

By Titothebear

December 26, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Boots,

If you don’t want any racial implications, why are you talking about hiring a coach of African ancestry? Seems to me racial implications are about all that’s keeping Vick in a job. His performance last Sunday was vintage Vick. He feigned frustration, retreated from the rush of questions and pre-empted any criticism of himself when he offered up the sacrifice of the game plan. The guy can not play! What more needs to be seen to confirm this? Nothing! It’s time to dump Vick, sign Schaub and fire Mora and the rest of the Foucons coaches and executive hierarchy. Start over! Do it now. Make a break with this horrible past that keeps overwhelming the present!

By Dawgs2006

December 26, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

It is just a terrible shame. I am a proud Falcon fan, have been for years.

Blank is not as smart as we thought he was. He fooled us all. We all bought ibnto the hype, bought tickets, made Sundays our today to watch our birds develop into Super Bowl champs.

And here we are. We are in the worse shape as a team and franchise since Jamal Anderson tore his ACL in September of 1999.

The worst part about today’s situation is the expections and percieved talent.

I can only hang my head at this point. My season tickets will not be renewed for next season. I will watch the Falcons from afar for awhile. My Sundays will not be wasted driving into Atlanta to sit in the cavern any longer.

I have turn my back on the Falcons for a couple of years until this team is rebuilt. Dunn, Mora, Brooking, Vick, the pathetic line, etc need to go. We need a new team with a new culture.

By Michael

December 26, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

All You clowns do is get on these blogs every week & day and blast Vick! You don’t talk about those bad reciver’s that we have, who can’t get open, they can’t catch, and on top of that the scheme is bad! No quick slants, no skinny post, no out routes, they don’t get yards after the catch! Our receiver’s get man coverage every game and can’t get open! Play calling 4th inches punt the ball! When your defense run on all day! 3rd & 1 run Dunn instead of using your full backs, Did it twice!! Not using the Norwood like the Saints use Bush! Got your receiver’s running too the same spot on the field! On 4th & 4 go for it! While on 1st & 2nd down run the college option crap with less than 2 min. in the game! Defensive Coordinator Playing Zone instead of doing an all bilitz and forcing the Panthers too pass the ball! When they clearly running with no QB! John Fox sent a message too everyone that this Coaching Staff is a joke! They got out coached in every game for the last two years! I’ve never seen Mora after a game or his Coordinators say they got out Coached. Something some of you clowns fell mention. Every week here lately the Guys who call the Falcons games even hint on the play calls they run! The last two minutes should have been all passing situations! And we’re not even going speak on the Jimmy Williams and other personnel not even on the field!!!!!

By blq byrd

December 26, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

Indiana was shutout this year and NE was shutout twice this year meaning that they scored fewer points than the Falcons and yet no one would dare call those teams or their qb’s clueless, incompentent, intelluctually inferrior, dumb or any other type of negative that they use to describe Vick mainly because of their own prejudices. I remember a few weeks ago that Brady only threw for 78 yards and had 4 ints, what does that say about him? For the record I am often very impressed with Brady, Manning, McNabb, Breese, and this year Vince Young and Phillip Rivers out in San Diego my second home town. I could careless about the color of the qb’s skin because truthfully, I am a fan of the team (FALCONS) first and sometimes I will have a favorite player but I never have and never will wear any mans name on my back (that’s reserved for my baby girl) only the team name and logo is allowed on my apparel.

The only superior race is the human race of which we all belong. The fact that someone decided to seperate us based on the color of their skin has no bearing on that fact.

Most of us I believe are real fans of the Falcons and we are all disappointed with the way they have shown their appreciation for our support. No one will be mad at you for expressing your frustration because as a fan, you have that right; however personal attacks and race baiting will not and should not be tolerated by any of us that come here to discuss our team. Obviously MV7 has the intelligence to be a qb in the NFL or else he would’nt be one. And rember this…. many players and coaches from around the league have expressed a desire to play with and coach him and a couple of pro bowls ago he was not only impressive while he was in the game he was also voted the games MVP.

Falcons gone!

By kenny d

December 26, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

dirrtybyrd:

what has coleman done in the last 2 years? nothing. Ike Reese made no difference in the baltimore game. in fact that was one loss caused by poor special teams. rossum has not been explosive like he was 2 years ago. morten, i have no complaints with.

i just wish fans would start going position by position and start analyzing why this team is just mediocre.

you have a petutlant, emotional basketcase, little daddy’s boy at HC way in over his head with a befuddled OC with a perpetually soft DC who seemingly forgets that he was fired in Green Bay because his soft coverage schemes led to a 4th and 26 miracle conversion by mcnabb and freaking freddie mitchell of all players. how does a 2nd and 29 become a 3rd and 8 the other day, especially from a QB whose coach only trusted him to throw 7 times in the entire game.

then you have a good but inconsistent QB who is not a leader surrounded by an offensive line who can not pass block and who is soft on short yardage and red zone with a finesse undersized RB who can not pound the ball and move the chains in short yardage and the redzone which has crippled the team and who is partnered up with a bunch of soft receivers who are not explosive, who get no separation, do not get open and do not even catch the ball when they do get open combined with a Pro Bowl tight end i really do not have any complaints with.

Then you have an undersized defensive front that has been crippled by injury and whose backups are undersized and get shoved all over the field combined with an above average Brooking, a perpetually injured Hurtwell, an undersized but wicked fast Boley and DWILL who get shoved all over the field because the undersized defensive front four get shoved all over the field thereby getting free shots at the linebackers who are then combined with a very talented cb whose bark is bigger than his bite who plays alongside a garbage webster, a woeful rossum, a disgraceful crocker alongside mathis who was decent when he played before getting injured and lawyer who is still very solid but no longer the great difference maker he once was.

then you have a good special teams coach whose unit has been crippled by the lack of depth provided to the team whose star performer rossum is not as explosive as he was 2 years ago, who had several issues fielding kicks last year, and who has had a difficult time the last 2 years judging when to call for a fair catch. rossum’s problems and the problems of the entire special teams has been caused in large part by the overall talent erosion in the supporting cast over the 2 years. if you got no depth, then you are going to have special teams issues and you are going to have even more serious problems when your stars get injured.

as for the steroids accusations, i have no proof barry bonds did it either but i can look at the man and say only an idiot could honestly believe barry did not take steroids. take a good look at the bodies of kerney & abe, and then the nature of their injuries, what further proof do you need of steroids and HGH? wake up! or are you going to be like the baseball fans who woke up ten years too late? did you ever wonder why the performance of the giles brothers has dramatically slipped since the advent of drug testing? no one has any real proof as to that but you do not have to be a genius to figure that out for yourself. And oh BTW, I have no Chipper either but he does look a lot smaller and sure as heck has suffered alot of weird steroid type injuries the last few years since he had to get off the juice, am i right?

By john

December 26, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

I must be from the old school, but Vick looks like he is trying to blame everyone but himself. He is an exceptional player, but when he flips a bird to the fans, I have no other use for him. Get rid of him and get a Coach who can run the team and not a QB who crys. Mr. Blank, until you let everyone know you are in charge, and not the players , you may have a chance with Atlanta and the fans.

By UGA Red necks and @$$ holes $ux

December 26, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

Bring in Norm Chow. get the broom out for the coaches. Mike has some problems , but he has and will help this team get better. If you look back at all and I mean all the QB the falcons has has the Fans has thrown them under the bus. We will win. We need 350 lbs men on both side of the ball. Poor scheme poor coaching that’s the falcons down fall. Falcons we love you. the coaches kill themselves and some fans! Norm chow bring in the USC stile of play.He knows how to get the best out of people! we don’t need any more reject coaches, and smoke blower. In the off season the player need to do more to stop player from getting hurt so must. This has killed this team , to Manny key player going down every year! Alix Gibb see yea. This scheme has been like a bad case of the crabs! We are going to put some blue star on you and hope to never see you again! I hope next year they call us the big birds for the big people we have on the line!

By abyrd

December 26, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this

I say dont fire Mora. Give him some pom-poms and make him head cheerleader!

By Tyger

December 26, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

Mora has done little to improve this team!!! The Falcons were built by Dan Reeves and were a winning team until Vick broke his leg. That was Reeves’ only losing season and he was fired despite his “body of work”.

Since, Mora instilled a finesse concept emphasizing speed over brawn which left us bullied and bloodied in the tough, hard-nosed NFC.

Under Mora, the draft picks and free agents have been busts! From Peerless Price to Ed Hartwell to Ashlie Lelie, the coaching has been suspect and the PR juvenile.

(For Heaven’s sake, we traded TJ Duckett and now we cant get 1yd when you need it most???)

Vick is right. Sunday, was the worst coaching job I’ve seen in the NFL in quite some time.

3pts.????

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 26, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

Whether people think Vick is intelligent or stupid means nothing. Intelligence in an NFL QB is by far a QB’s most overrated attribute. Vick may or may not be dumb as a rock, but it has no impact on his ability to be a good quarterback. If intelligence really mattered so much, Jay Fiedler would be a Hall of Famer because he went to an Ivy League school. If you don’t agree, look up the Wonderlic scores of NFL QBs — perhaps it would intrigue you to find out that David Carr scored better on his Wonderlic test than Brett Favre. Don’t confuse instincts with intelligence. These so-called “smart” QBs improve their instincts and recognition by watching film and practicing the same plays repeatedly. Peyton Manning is called “smart” for his ability to read defenses — in reality, he watches so much film that he knows what defenses are likely to do based on the pre-snap read. That’s not due to intelligence, it’s due to putting in time watching film.

As an example, think about people who play Madden (the video game) a lot, compared to people who don’t play Madden often. The more you play that game, the more you know how the computer is going to play coverage in a given situation, based even on the pre-snap read. Essentially, it’s like watching film of a really simple defense. So naturally, someone who plays a lot is going to be able to pass much better in the game than someone who doesn’t play a lot. That doesn’t mean the person who plays a lot is more intelligent — it just means they have played the game a lot more. I’m not saying NFL defenses are as simple as Madden defenses, but it’s the same idea — the more you see it, the better prepared you are going to be, and the sooner you will react.

Basically, Manning is a great QB because he is mechanically sound, watches a lot of film, practices hard, has a strong arm and throws passes accurately, not because he has a higher IQ than other QBs. And his standout WRs and OL don’t hurt either — pressure is one less thing he has to think about.

But make no mistake — if you put Manning, Vick, or any other QB in an engineering class at Georgia Tech, both will probably fail miserably.

Oh, and for the guy asking what Rod Coleman has done in the last two years, he led all NFL DTs in sacks last year with 10.5.

By Nunna Yo Bizness

December 26, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

To those who don’t know why we and Vick says that we have better talent on the team than the record indicates.. We Do !!! Its all in preparation,and playcalling.. We,either on offense or defense never take advantage of the weakness of our opponents.. We are so F-cking predictable on offense its stupid.. I don’t care what u call it,but on defense,always we play in some kind of prevent defense.. We didn’t this week,we rushed 5 and 6 most of the time..

Do u know why???

Because Mora and Donatell both know that their butts are on the line!!!

Memo to Mora: The next coaching job u get(if u do),do yourself a favor.. Hire co-ordinators that are creative,know how to adjust during the game and not afraid to change your gameplan,design an offensive or defensive scheme that will play on the strengths of our personnel!!! If u did,u would not be in the jam u are in now buddy.. Last,Vick is not the problem.. Schaub will be a bonehead pick just like the others that Mckay has had since he got here on Offense.. Ask yourself..Who is the best offensive or even defensive players he brought in mainly in the draft that have stuck it out and is worth keeping.. D-Mo Williams,M.Boley,J.Norwood,and it looks like J-Williams.. And u jump on a bandwagon of a QB who,loves to throw into double coverage,excells in playing the 3rd and 4th teamers on a pre-season team,and played a depleted Pats defense that was being lit up for an average of 260ypg.,at the same time..

Vick can pass,and is not as inaccurate as the haters want us to believe.. He got on HBO,and told the truth,the coaches didn’t have confidence in his passing,but he can pass.. And what did he do?? Steelers and Bengals felt the wrath of Vicks arm..After the controversy died down on his comments,Knapp has scrapped the passing game,and has Vick passing just 20-24 times.. How can a QB throw for just 25 or less times,and u so called fans expect him to have a high passing rating,high yardage,and a rythym with his recievers.. If Schaub were in the game we would throw almost on every down.. He gets a chance to get into a flow of passing with his recievers,and Vick never,gets the chance..

Unless he goes public with his vent…

By UGA Red necks and @$$ holes $ux

December 26, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this

By john -no he is saying It’s not all me take a look around. Defense, defense, . Atlanta fans has thrown there QB’s under the buss since 1966. we have had No management skills for the hold history of this team. Good player that the falcons have had looked back and said I need to get out of here if I want a ring. The management and redneck fans run good players off.Some of the people running and coaching this team have been clue less!John the red neck fans would boo JESUS. Look back on the history of this team please and get all and I mean all the facts on player coaches and fans!we have been super sorry as a team like 4and 12 so manny times!

By The Professor

December 26, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

Najeh,

Perhaps Vick should light a fattie and play Madden for game prep…

By Dr. I.Q.

December 26, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

Everybody is talking about how valuable Vick is to this franchise and Mora talks about how many touchdowns he has thrown and how his statistics have improved. FOR GOD’S SAKE LOOK AT THE LAST TWENTY GAMES AND EXPLAIN WHERE THERE HAS BEEN IMPROVEMENT! Vick and the Falcons have been on a down-hill plunge and nobody wants to acknowlege it. Wake up people. The wheel has come off of the BANDWAGON!

By Robert

December 26, 2006 07:47 PM | Link to this

when your qb can not change a play there are problems, i think players are talented enough to win, but the staff will not adjust to players, still banging heads trying to get players to adjust to them. it will not work

By Boots

December 26, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

Cut the horse hockey: From 11/13/05 the Falcons have play 23 regular season games. There record is 14 Losses and 9 wins. Nobody can put a positive spin on that record and the trend in ominous! Mr. Blank, I know you’re a numbers guy. What do you make of this?

By KENZO IN DECATUR

December 26, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

The quarterback can’t be as bad as the coaching on this team.If you have eyes and half a brain you’ll know this.We have these numb skulls that say Vick can’t pass,he can’t read coverages,he needs to go,you must watch the game with blind folds on.Get a clue,please.

By Pick this

December 26, 2006 08:05 PM | Link to this

Shock collar, shock collar, shock collar, shock collar, SHOCK COLLAR!!!

By Larry

December 26, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

Najeh,

Those with genuine self-esteem are proud of their real name. I understand.

As for your feeble attempt to define intelligence you’re wrong. Cognitive skills are largely incorporated by birth. Education and learned behaviors are accomplished through effort and environmental factors.

You came close, however when describing one fundamental difference between Vick and Manning. Manning is a student who wants to learn and excel. Vick is nothing but an observer who spends little time devoting himself to mastery of his craft and thus the regression in his passing skills in the NFL, if he truly ever had any.

Ever see Vick voluntarily conferencing with his staff and/or teammates on the sideline? Don’t you find this bizarre? He just sits there twirling his braids and adjusting his doo rag and earrings with a stupid look on his face.

Vick is a dumb little fast guy who can throw a long, tight spiral. Even worse, he makes little attempt to eliminate the “dumb” part of my previous sentence—unlike all other NFL Quarterbacks I’ve seen.

He is, indeed, a “coach killer,” but one who has a following of the Atlanta “Hip Hop” crowd who are stupid and ignorant enough to buy and worship his jersey, regardless of his on-field performance.

Question: do you own any Mike Vick merchandize?

By Greedy

December 26, 2006 08:27 PM | Link to this

This is crazy. U idiots think it is vicks fault . wtf . Look at the freaking film idiots, look at the film idiots. u guys r insane. Let vick go , 20,000 fans will go. and he torches us and your white boy schaub shows that he was a hiesman winner in college. lol

By Steve

December 26, 2006 08:27 PM | Link to this

You know what the SAD truth is? All of us fans are sitting out here in cyberspace complaining about that sorry a$$ performance and do you know what Vick is probably doing?

He’s probably sitting at home in his Sugarloaf mansion, with his hat on backwards, hanging with the “homeys”, playing video games and laughing HIS a$$ off that Blank paid him all that money…and laughing at how p** off we all are…as he cashes his $192K two week paycheck tommorrow.

By Boots

December 26, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Titothebear: The reason I brought up the racial implications is that the Vick apologists are thoroughly convinced that there is a conspiracy to make Vick look bad, to prevent him from being successful and that the white fans and coaches want him to fail. Of course, this is horse hockey, but maybe an all African American coaching staff would show the world that Vick is what he is —- a loose cannon who can never conform to any scheme —- even if it was tailor made for him! He reminds me of a jazz musician who can’t read music and must imrpovise!

By Gman

December 26, 2006 08:54 PM | Link to this

Questions:

Why is the Falcons offensive scheme so simple?

Why wont Mora let Vick call any audibles during the game?

What do you know about the offensive playbook when Vick was at VT?

Are they still requiring reporters to presubmit questions where Vick and co. can review before the press conference?

I am not trying to be harsh here, just speaking the truth. I think Vick has been coddled since he was like 12, just like a lot of professional atheletes, told he can do no wrong, never had a job always playing sports, too many people kissing butt, etc, in short no accountability!

He has to be the leader of this team if we are going to do anything at all, a QB’s first responsibility. He has to take accountability for the teams performance in every game, and he has to take the responsibility of leading us to the playoffs and upper echelons of the league, where we all want the Falcons to be.

You know, Joe Montana had like zero atheletic ability compared to some, drafted real low out of Notre Dame, but he was literally a general out there on that field, you just knew he was gonna get the job done, Elway was no rocket scientist either, but some players have a sense of things around them on the field and what to do in pressure situations. Marino fell a little short of those two, but God knows he had the arm.

Maybe Vick and Steve Young need to work out and talk, they are more similar in playing style than any other two players i can think of, Steve was a general out there on the field, thinking on the fly and adapting to what he saw in front of him to gain the advantage. And I mean no disrespect to our Armed Forces when using the term “General” when referring to football players, God bless our troops….

I dont think Vick is leading this team right now, I think there is a lot of division amongst the team; I do believe Mora is gone, he will be fired after the season ends; if we are looking to hire a new coach, and you really want a coach that can see eye to eye with a QB and design and offense around one, around Vick, then you have to pick Spurrier, he knows how to play the position and can draw a play up in the dirt better than some can scheme out after a week, who knows if he would even think of leaving USC, of if Blank would make a run at him. You know of anybody better at creating an offense, and being creative? He made a WR a QB this year, and he was damn good too, the only man to ever win the ACC title while coaching at Duke…..I do think this weekend has the potential to be real ugly like Carolina last year, lots of unrest out there….

None of my comments have anything to do with race/color relating to behavior/intelligence, quit thinking in terms of color, I am looking at performance and leadership, I want to see us step up and play football out there, a 10-3 loss is pitiful in a crucial week 16 game, there was no heart in that game.

“Behavior/Actions are never color-specific, nor can an action/reaction be defined by a persons color. It’s the culture we learn from and live by that defines our actions and behaviors in society.” See Thomas Sowell

GO FALCONS

By Larry

December 26, 2006 09:07 PM | Link to this

…and then we have “Greedy,” “Nunna Yo Bizness,” and “UGA Red necks and @$$ holes $ux,” and “KENZO IN DECATUR”

Just take a quick glance at the diction, syntax and grammar of these Vick supporters! This is our problem!

We have this absolutely stupid, illiterate, double-digit IQ snot buggers that continuously plague our society that are the core embodiment of Vick supporters. These are the Hip Hop “artist” wannabes that keep degenerating the GA Dome on Sundays walking around the isles starring at boobs and earrings, paying little attention to the game, and wearing # 7 jerseys hoping to pick-up a bubble butt female wearing jeans like 10 gallons of water in a 5 gallon bucket!

Honestly, who values their opinions outside of car thieves and pimps?

GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Boots

December 26, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

Gman: A very articulate evaluation and sentiments I have expressed throughout the season. Selah and Adios!

By Larry

December 26, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this

Gman,

They’ve tried this with Young and Vick already, along with at least two other personal QB coaches. The result? Blank stares!

You have to remember, Young graduated with honors from Brigham Young while Vick sat in on a few classes at VA Tech peeling the skin from his latest tattoo and dreaming of how large an earring he can wear under his helmet once he goes pro. Why does one feel the need to wear earrings under a football helmet?

Big difference in attitude, enthusiasm and cognitive skills, between that of Young and Vick!

By dirty byrd

December 26, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

so it comes down to 1 more loss just 1 more loss mr blank you promised you would do better for this city PUT UP OR SHUT UP IF NOT GET OUT TAKE ALL LOSERS WHEN YOU GO MONEY CANT MAKE YOU WIN IT COMES FROM THE HEART NOT THE WALLET NOW GO FIND US A HEART!!!

By Jeremius Shakazulu Abul El-Alamin Muhamid

December 26, 2006 09:35 PM | Link to this

It’s all Blank’s fault for signing Vick to that contract. He’s got no one to blame but himself.

By mak

December 26, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

I am a loyal falcons fan until the very end. I must admit that recently it has been hard work. I believe as anyone with eyes and basic knowledge of the game would that major changes are due. I don’t know however if it will help to change the whole coaching staff if they plan to keep the same old inefficient offensive and deffensive schemes and the zone blocking/cut blocking style of play. Ask an expert and he will tell you immediately that if an offence is inconsistant that the blame usually lies with the offensive line. Falcons problems go even deeper with wide outs that can’t achieve seperation and when on the off chance they do manage to get open repeatedly drop the ball. Top this off with a quarterback and coaching staff that is easily discouraged. Sometimes their body language reveals that they have given up by halftime. Enter into the mix multiple injuries to key players and none of the second string and or rookies rising to the occasion on a consistant basis. (with a few exceptions and most of them being on the deffensive side of the ball) I am not going to call out names but I feel some criticism must be dealt to a certain CB. When I saw him take a bow after making a play on a pass after having gotten burned several times prior to that play, I nearly hurled.

By dylan

December 26, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

dirty byrd I dont think Blank is the problem that seems a bit reaching I think boots was right about bringing in a black coach unfortunately the right one was the one we hired Mora over, Lovie Smith, now the picking are going to be slim I would hate to see the falcons reach and hire the wrong coach again. Vick might be the problem that is still yet to be seen but I sure dont think they are helping things a teams consistency comes from its coaches you could blame vick for the offense but defensively this team is equally inconsistent.I dont know the answers but its obvious Mora doesnt either maybe if the Colts fire Dungy he could fix this system or at least get it going in the right direction.

By bk hawk

December 26, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

* Fire Mora and hire Bill Cowher or Dan Reeves. Cowher wants to get close to his family in Raliegh, NC. He’s ready to go to a team that wants to win now!*

By reverend run

December 26, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

Larry, do you realize that your posts make you sound as dumb as all the black people you are calling dumb? There are intelligent and intellectually honest ways to criticize Vick. I think G-Man and several others have done that. You Larry have not done that. If you have an intelligent criticism to share about Vick, then please do so already. I have not yet seen that you are capable of that. Resorting to cheap lazy racial stereotypes does not count.

Boots, I do not think that people are saying that Vick needs a black coach. I have actually never heard anyone on here say that Vick needs a black coach and I have never really heard any black people on here haphazardly throw the names of any black coaches out there. In fact, I think the majority of names thrown out there by blacks and whites alike have always white coaches. I have also never heard any black people on here saying that there is any white conspiracy against Michael Vick. The few that do are the black equivalents of Larry. What black people often complain about on here is the white morons like Larry who never have any real analysis on the pros and cons of Vick but who repeatedly insist on throwing out cheap lazy racial stereotypes as a way of attacking Vick. Boots, I think you are completely misunderstanding the racial issue when it comes to Vick. It is more than alright to criticize Vick, just demonstrate that you can use your brain when you do it and do so without resorting to racial stereotypes that only make you look dumber than the man you are calling dumb. Larry, are you listening?

By Bo

December 26, 2006 10:15 PM | Link to this

Mora is trying to take credit for what coach Reeves left him the first year before Mora destroyed the team. Vick is not the problem. He must have a Coach that understands how to us him like Reeves did. Vick could be the greatest ever with the right Coach! I agree with Bk Hawk. Maybe,Cowher is the Man.

By Jeremius Shakazulu Abul El-Alamin Muhamid

December 26, 2006 10:16 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick is as dumb as a bag of hammers. Calling for a “meeting” with Steve Young makes me laugh! Have you ever witnessed Steve Young’s commentary? Maybe it’s all the concussions he endured, but he is dim! All he can do is stammer around and heartily agree with the latest cause (black) celebre. I think that “law degree” was just given to him by BYU. He is a direct decendant of Brigam Young, after all.

By Bill in Dallas

December 26, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this

I’ve never posted before, but I am frustrated to the point that I have to vent.

I like Jim Mora, Jr. I think he has a good personality and I like the positive approach that he takes.

However, I’m to the point where it doesn’t outweigh my disappointment any more. Bottom line in my opinion, we need new offensive and defensive coordinators next year and if that means we need a new head coach next year as well, so be it!

By Falconsforever

December 26, 2006 10:19 PM | Link to this

If Blank decides to make a change at HC, he should consider Chan Gailey from GA Tech. Chan is an offensive coach. It would be a good fit. Then Tech could elevate Tenuta or go after Ken Whisenhunt from Pittsburgh. It could be a win-win for the Falcons and Tech.

By Steve T

December 26, 2006 10:47 PM | Link to this

If you do not think the falcons have enough talent, I bet you I could have coach that them to 12-4 or better.

By michael

December 26, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this

Mike Martz is the Falcons Next Head Coach, Mike Martz!

By greg

December 26, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

hey, falconsforever, that is a great idea. yeah, let’s hire chan because he did wonders with reggie ball and was also a master of the late season meltdown. never mind, we have already mastered the art of the dumb tiny QB and the late season meltdown.

By Gman

December 26, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

I agree about Cowher, Cowher is a good coach and a motivator, would he really come down to Atlanta?

I think Steve Young’s commentary is brutal, he cant focus on anything and may not be the sharpest tool in the shed…..but you put him on a football field and he could make split second decisions all day, and make the right decison, thats what you need in a QB…

It’s all culture, welcome to the dirty south…..”The ‘culture’ in the South is responsible for the ghetto culture, not ‘racism’ alone. The reasons are due to how the Britains lived in the outskirts of England(the lawless regions) before moving into the antebellum South, carrying their anarchic, chaotic culture with them

Southern Blacks and Whites alike:

In the nineteenth century, there was a tradition of besom weddings or jumping the broomstick. Unions were forged when the couple jumped over the broomstick together and dissolved by reversing the process. Some couples performed this ritual prior to their one night stand, but there are many instances of long lasting relationships beginning in this manner.

I am out, Go Cowher

By hudog

December 26, 2006 10:54 PM | Link to this

Justin Griffith- 3 TD’s last week (one called back) a touchdown and awesome game at RUNNING BACK when Dunn and Norwood go down at Tampa, this week: NO ATTEMPTS, NO THROWN TO’s, FEW PLAYS even in the game. Thanks for not recognizing what so many others do. (A true diamond in the rough on the field and even better person off the field) Wake up McKay and extend his contract before everyone else in the league attempts to draw him away from the org.

He picks up every person who runs the ball and is a team favorite because of a tremendous work ethic.

Please recognize!!!!

By Jeremius Shakazulu Abul El-Alamin Muhamid

December 26, 2006 11:02 PM | Link to this

Chan Gailey? Chan Gailey??? Offense???

This must be a joke.

By Captain Truth

December 26, 2006 11:03 PM | Link to this

For the love of God, this team does not have “too much talent!” A roster full of guys who supposedly have potential mixed with old guys who ahve been to a pro-bowl does not equal a talented team. Heres the breakdown of all this talent: 1. 2 good, not great, running backs. 2. A good, although too fat these days, tight end. 3. A below avg. offensive line. 4. Bad wide recievers. 5. 3 good defensive linemen. 6. 2 good weakside linbackers. 7. No good middle or stronside backers 8. 1 good (old) safety. 9. 1 good zone corner, who sucks in man cvg. 10. An above avg athlete who is a below avg quarterback. 11. 2 backup qbs who won conference titles in college and who undoubtedly know the playbook better than the starter.

-C.T.

By Trendline

December 26, 2006 11:06 PM | Link to this

Don’t put this on Mute. Coach how’s the R-Square? Yeah….

By Titothebear

December 26, 2006 11:07 PM | Link to this

Boots,

If Mora is replaced by someone of African ancestry I’m alright with it. Ethnicity neither confers, nor denies wisdom to a person. The Coach of the Bears is black. But, so too is is the coach of the Browns. One is quite successful while the other plods along, managing to defeat the Foulcons easily but, overall, not doing all that well. And there are several coaches of the caucasian variety who are doing well and quite a number who will be fired when the season is over. Race really isn’t one of the things that should be considered. Of course, it will be! The NFL has mandated that for every opening there must be consideration given to a minority candidate (s). I’m fine with that! A person’s race should not be a determining factor in their receiving or being denied a position. That same philosophy should rule when deciding on the future of players. Mike Vick has failed, and failed miserably, for six long years. Time to remove him from the starting line-up and from the team. As for maggots like Greedy, get a life Boy!

By BirdDawg

December 26, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this

Asking Larry, that illiterate, ignorant fool to say something intelligent is like whistling to your cat and thinking it’ll come to you.

It’s just not in it’s nature.

Same with Larry and intelligence.

Larry, the more you protest your not a racist, well, I was going to go somewhere with that, but what you actually say proves your a racist more than your protesting.

Larry, ain’t you late for your meeting? Do you need to stop by the dry cleaners in Forsythe Co. to pick up your special dry cleaning first?

By Jeremius Shakazulu Abul El-Alamin Muhamid

December 27, 2006 12:05 AM | Link to this

Birdoig, learn to use the English language, idiot. YOU + ARE = YOU’RE. Example: Birddoig, YOU’RE A ƒUCKING IDIOT.

By BirdDawg

December 27, 2006 12:20 AM | Link to this

Birddoig?

People who live in glass houses.

Me thinks you are a Bug, as well, and there are a few reasons why I say that.

One in the very nerdish need to correct others grammar in something as mundane as a blog.

Two, we are constantly having to tell you Bugs that saying, but y’all, as smart as you think you are, can never learn from it.

And three, with a name like that, you have to be a terrorist. And terrorists are found in Atlanta at the North Avenue Trade School.

Oh, and four, you have to be a Bug, because everytime I go to that piece of crap, pop warner stadium that y’all just got done making smaller (like that grammar in that, do you nerd?), your p**-poor alumni, students, and fans use more offensive language than the most redneckiest Gayturd Fan.

And that’s nothing to be proud of.

By OpinionsAreLike

December 27, 2006 12:23 AM | Link to this

When defense plays well, offense doesn’t, when Vick throws well, receivers drop balls, when Vick plays terrible, defensive line plays well, when defensive line plays well, offensive line breaks down, when offensive line plays well, coaches call bad plays, when coaches call good plays, someone has a penality, when there are no penalities, there are injuries, when we play a good complete game, no we never do that do we? No team here just a mistake waiting to happen.

By Titothebear

December 27, 2006 12:30 AM | Link to this

Captain Truth,

Your post was completely accurate and amazingly succinct. Your assessment was an honest one. Sadly, most of the fans and all the staff writers will condemn you as a “hater”. Pay them no mind. Since mid-season of 2005 the Foulcons have won nine games, while losing fourteen. That sort of record doesn’t scream “talent” does it? Many changes, including the one at quarterback, must be made. To begin to win I’m afraid we must, for a time, endure more losing. Installing Schaub at quarterback would be an intelligent thing to do. So, forget that! Schaub probably wants out of this mess where a guy who runs for meaningless yards and does little else is acclaimed as a great talent despite the fact his team loses at least half the time. So a new quarterback is crucial for success but I hope he will be taller than Shockley. More talent than Shockley possesses would be nice too. The outlook for the Foulcons is bleak in the short term and unclear in the long term. Unless they keep Vick. Then the future is easily seen as quite dark.

By Jeremius Shakazulu Abul El-Alamin Muhamid

December 27, 2006 12:51 AM | Link to this

Just trying to impart some knowledge to the lowly proletariat. Next time you post Birddoig, you may look infinitesimally brighter (instead of a lighting bug, a 15 watt refrigerator bulb).

By Najeh Davenpoop-shoot

December 27, 2006 12:53 AM | Link to this

Oh…Vick’s nothing to brag about-huh? He carries this talentless team on his shoulders week in & week out, U MORON>

By Ken Strickland

December 27, 2006 01:04 AM | Link to this

JERE S., you’re obviously upset over BIRDDAWGS stinging assessment of your special friend, LARRY. But is your only rebuttal really about a grammatical miscue? That would make you a trivial, All-American nitpicker. Maybe you focused on grammatical miscues, instead of his scathing comments, because you could find no fault in his assessment. I KNOW I COULDN’T.

By Titothebear

December 27, 2006 01:23 AM | Link to this

Mr. Poop-shoot,

Vick is definitely nothing to brag about and you’re the moron if you are doing any bragging about him! He is the anchor that’s dragging down the team and killing his second coach. He’s carried the team to eight losses this season and he’ll carry them to one more this weekend. I don’t see how his record of mediocrity and outright failure is anything for you to be bragging about!

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 27, 2006 03:10 AM | Link to this

Birddawg, if Tech is full of terrorists, where did they learn their grammar? Do Islamic schools in Afghanistan teach English too?

Larry, for someone who prides himself on his supposed intelligence, you seem to have a hard time with reading comprehension. Go back to the post I wrote and tell me where I even tried to define intelligence. The whole point of my post was that regardless of where intelligence comes from or who has superior cognitive skills, a QB’s intelligence has little effect on his ability to be an effective quarterback. Try going back and reading it again, and this time read it slower so that you understand all the words.

I don’t know anything about Vick’s work habits compared to any other NFL QB, and neither do you. The only thing either of us know are what the media tells us. What we do know is that Manning works his a* off through the week compared to pretty much every other NFL QB, and Manning gets to put that work to use by audibling frequently at the line of scrimmage. Your feeble attempt at making Vick look lazy compared to other QBs despite having no information on the subject whatsoever only makes you look even more biased and foolish, if that was possible.

And your nonsensical comments about hip-hop, large rear ends, car thieves, earrings, and their supposed relation to the Falcons’ QB situation only reinforces the fact that, far from being intelligent, you are just another despicable racist who tries to compensate for your own extensive shortcomings by bragging about your alleged, nonexistent intelligence and insulting people on an anonymous Internet message board. Happy Kwanzaa.

By MALONE

December 27, 2006 05:17 AM | Link to this

OK, we’re all fed up.

Let’s start talking about who we get to replace Mora!

By RL

December 27, 2006 05:46 AM | Link to this

There’s no reason that Vick can’t be the coach too.

By Dawgone!

December 27, 2006 06:59 AM | Link to this

Norm Chow. Look at what he has done the last few years. He ajusts his offense to the players he is given. Kerry Collins = different play calling than Vince Young. If not chow then someone that will design an offense to our QB’s skills.

Also would everyone stop refering to Gnats offense as the West Coast? NO SLANTS. RARELY DO YOU SEE A RB SWING PASS. NO 3 STEP DROPS WITH QUICK PASSES.

Does anyone really believe Vince Young is better than Vick? Taller and Heavier yes. It is hard to judge Vick’s smarts since he isn’t allowed to audible. Which by the way my 11 year old does albiet in limited amounts(3 or 4 play options) He audibles more in a game than Vick has been allowed or done in a season! Ignorant.

Another thing… Didn’t Gibbs design a moving pocket for Theisman (spelling) back in the 80s? It worked pretty well if I remember back then. If we blow up the O line then we are screwed for the next 3 to 4 years but you can work with what we have as they are not terrible just terribly coached.

By Larry

December 27, 2006 07:14 AM | Link to this

Oh let us compare:

I live in an 8700 square feet country club estate in Kennesaw, have a 141 IQ, married to a former Miss Teenage Cobb County and Miss Georgia finalist, a multi millionaire, have built and sold three medical device companies in spine and heart surgery, have two beautiful daughters, and English Bulldog, and I do not wear earrings or don a tattoo. I’m happily married, smart, good looking, a former quarterback and extremely wealthy. Writing here is pure entertainment for me.

Then you have BirdDawg, Ken Strickland and Najeh Davenpoop! Are you capable of reading into their putrid, dull, envious, ignorant, zestless and vulgar existence? Two of them are garnished with odor form poor hygiene and one (Ken) is sexually attracted to fecal producing rectum of other males.

You see, they “want to be like Mike.”

I don’t!

By Stat of the Day

December 27, 2006 07:15 AM | Link to this

Whose career throwing percentage is 51.9 and is a current Hall of Famer?

Terry Bradshaw. Think all this accuracy stuff is over hyped especially with all these dink and dunk schemes. Don’t sweat the small stuff Vick!

By Brandyman

December 27, 2006 07:23 AM | Link to this

Another season down the tubes. When was the last time we drafted an O or D lineman from the college draft? We are constantly picking up a has been, over the hill player (Hartwell, Abraham) who mysteriously wind up playing a couple of games for us and then go on IR or ride the pines because of injuries. Did anyone consider the medical history of Abraham before bringing him in?

The defensive and offensive schemes we employ are ridiculous. Remember 4th and 30 for Green Bay? (Donatell the DC) Why do you think he got fired. It wasn’t because of that one play, it was his inane defensive schemes over the course of season after season.

We bring in an unproven head coach who all of a sudden is supposed to have all the answers that have eluded coaches before him. Experience is paramount. Bring in a proven winner.

By Eternal Optimist

December 27, 2006 07:31 AM | Link to this

Another below .500 season for the Falcons. 4 reasons dominate. 1-an undersized offensive line that cannot pass block, and horrible in short yardage. 2. lack of pounders on the defensive line, and at line backers. Other than Boley none of our line backers make plays of the oppositions side of the ball. Brooking should play safety-he makes most of his tackles 10-12 yds down field anyway.(poor defense overall)3. Terrible coaching-they should all go (maybe keep the special teams coach)4. No pound it out back. I like Dunn, but face it he’s no everydown back. There is a lot of work to be done, to turn this team around. It want happen in a year.

By Eternal Optimist

December 27, 2006 07:37 AM | Link to this

Hey Lary, Just because you’ve been fortunate to live a successful life what does that prove, some of the worst people on the planet are millionaires. And hey, I am in no way defending those 3, but to write what you wrote does not say much about your character either. Lets all stick to football. Love, peace, and soul!!!! Falcons consecutive superbowl wins in 2009,2010 under Ken Wisenhunt. Look to the future. I’m with you Vick.

By keeping it real

December 27, 2006 07:41 AM | Link to this

BY NAJAN DAVENPOOP you blog are great! Keep it up!

By keeping it real

December 27, 2006 07:57 AM | Link to this

by larry you are full of hate you never spent 10 second with vick and now you know every thing about him! Have you been with him to see if what you say is true no. You are just running your hateful head.you are just lying. If you have not spent time with him how can you say what you say is true!

By UGA Red necks and @$$ holes $ux

December 27, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this

Bry Birddawg UGA was and to some degree full terrorists and rednecks they are call KKK! check your history Bud!

By pete

December 27, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

Vick’s positives: He is fast. Vick’s negatives: He is only 6 feet tall, if that. He is not accurate. He can’t read defenses. His passes have no touch. He still can’t audible and the playbook has to be limited. He is too small to run a QB sneak on 3rd or 4th and inches. He is not a leader and has admitted he has given less than 100% before. He hasn’t thrown a 4th quarter TD in 18 games. How is this guy still a starting NFL QB?

By VS5109

December 27, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Falcon fans…you know what this team needs? It needs a cancer. It needs a player that’s going to seek all the attention. A player that’s going to demand that he get the ball at all times. A player willing to call out the franchise quarterback in the media. A player that causes fights in the locker room.

You know what the team needs? The Atlanta Falcons need Terrell Owens.

By Eternal Optimist

December 27, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Titothebear! I agreed with alot you wrote about our coaching situation. But I totally disagree with you about our QB situation. True this has not been a bright 2 seasons for Vick. But looking at the bright side, the guy has thrown for 19 tds, and run for 1000 yds. Take away Vicks run yardage and the falcons fall about 15-20 in the league in the rush. What makes everyone think that we would be better with Shaub. True he has played fairly well in spot duty. But he’s only won 1 out of 4 games he’s started. Not so much because of his skills but the simple fact that our offensive system sucks. We lead the league in rushing but continuously can’t convert on 3rd and 1. Our O-line gets manhandled. They cannot pass block. I don’t care if you put T Brady back there he want be consistently sucessful behind that O-line. Vick is not the problem. I think we have good skill players (though they need better coaching and guidance). Vick has a better winning percentage than any former Falcons QB that played more than 3 seasons. This team want improved until we re-vamp this coaching staff and bring in a hard nosed, proven winner. Just my opinion.

By D-Man

December 27, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

I have read every post and for you people that considered what you actually think I will put a question out there for everyone..Do everyone actually think this season with the same coaches and scheme but with a “Tom Brady, or Matt Shaub” at quarterback would have had a different outcome and completely without Vick as the quarterback?

You guys and ladies really have to ask yourselves that when you past judgement really!! Study history and know where your REAL troubles lie because if you patch a problem by replacing Vick, you don’t solve the issue at all, a year from now you will be the same people asking for Vick back the same way you were the same one’s asking for Dan Reeves head and now you want him back….clueless!!

By D-Man

December 27, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Hey Eternal Optimist,

Your Very Right about everything you say and I truly like the way you look at everything you are truly an optimist!!

Vick is the body along with the rest of the team that makes the tail, We need a head….A coaching staff that truly is not trying to be friends, I know because I myself am a coach of three sports on being football. And I never make friends with the players I let them know that I don’t care on my judgements for your feelings my current team has a 9-1 record and I let my team know I don’t coach a losing team period so we need someone the same way here in Atlanta and I promise you results!!!!

By Wink from Lithonia

December 27, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Jim Moron has got to go. He has not done anything with this team. His 1st year was probably a direct result of the Dan Reeves regime. He is looking at going possibly 8 & 8 two years running with the team in decline after second half of season.

His loyalty to his former players & coaching buddies may cost him his job, along with his mouth. It’s okay to spount off all the positive stats the team has accomplished on his watch, but making game time adjustments and winning games is the bottom line…at least that is how I judge a coach’s success.

The Vick factor is also huge in the success of this team. He can play into a game & he can play you out.

The guy has fabulous stats this year:
1. First quarterback in the history of football to rush for 1000+ yards.

  1. Career high in touchdown passes with 19 TDs.

  2. Falcons leads the NFL in rushing as a direct result of his 1000+ yards (This stat gives us false sense of security, but this would be a Highlight for Mora resume…hmm)

On the flip side:

  1. The Falcons have not scored on an opening drive in 22 straight games.

  2. The Falcons fall behind early they usually lose the game; they have lost 17 straight games when trailing going into the fourth quarter.

  3. Mike Vick for all his talents & accomplishment has not thrown a fourth quarter touchdown since the 8th game last year, yes, since the 8th game last year.

I judge quarterbacks on wins & losses as well, so it goes without saying your franchise quarterback is not making plays when the game is on the line in 4th quarter or he is deploying only one weapon his feet.

No one gets a pass here - McKay has done us any favors in trying to improve this team. He finally got us a guy to attempt to stop the run with Grady, but he needs some more beef to his right & left. Hurtwell and Father Time (Abraham) can’t stay on the field, Milloy & Crockett are not up to par. D Hall is overated. Rossum is scared to run now & to short for CB. WR help is needed and the release of Duckett (31 career touchdowns)for Lelie has not improved short yardage or red zone effiency. What exactly did Petersen do to not warrant returning to kick FG (23 of 25 successful).

Yes, Mr Blanks, you also erred in bringing Junior to run your football team and giving the big contract to Vick that now hampers you in considering moving him as well!

Forecast for this team…Foggy, heavy fog!!!

By Falcons Stink

December 27, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

To all Vick fans - I submit to you as evidence of Vick’s lack of leadership,professionalism and QUARTERBACKING ability - The last pass of this past Sunday’s game against Carolina. If that is not vintage Vick I don’t know what is! While certainly the Falcons had no real chance of winning; Vicks last pass was a lazy, lackadaisical, halfhearted pass that was of course intercepted. This is a coaching issue? Basically the great Mike Vick said with that pass that he quit! Hell he had quit long before that last pass, i.e. Detroit and Cleveland games! Mike Vick is a problem and always will be. From his poor decision making, run first pass second instincts, blame coaches and fans, not giving 100% at all times, Vick is a bust as an NFL quarterback! I will never root for the falcons until Vick is gone! Put that in your pipe Arthur(Vick’s biggest a** kisser) Blank and smoke it! Go Eagles! All Vick fans, look at Jeff Garcia and the eagles as to how a real offense is run, and I’m no Jeff garcia fan! Go Eagles, Kill the Falcons!!!!

By Larry

December 27, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

“Wink from Lithonia,”

Refreshing, straight-forward and correct! Thank you!

“Pete,”

Everything you said is correct with one update—it’s now 19 games Vick hasn’t thrown a 4th quarter TD.

“D-Man,”

BullShi_! You’re not a coach, you’re an imposter and any real coach doesn’t refer to himself as “D-Man!” Can’t you spare us the cool crap? You’re right, however, about coaching philosophy—you need respect from players—but you’re dead wrong when you suggest a Tom Brady wouldn’t make us better. This is exactly what this running team needs is balance. We need a smart, tall, quick thinking, accurate QB—of any color—to compliment our running game. This is how I know you’re not a coach! This is the NFL, not your local flag football buddies!

I played the QB position at a pretty high level. I know what we need!

By Larry

December 27, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Wink and Falcons Stink,

Let’s get together and have a beer!

You two have the type of IQ of which I could feel challenged!

By georgiadawgg

December 27, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

i’m taking bets, the falcooons lose sunday. want to bet mr. blanks. how bout you jim moron.i’ll take some of your hard earned money.

By Falcons Stink

December 27, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Marshall Faulk entertained us with this tidbit of NFL analysis. The Falcons need to hire an Offensive coordinator that would make Mike Vick a pocket passer and teach him how to read his progessions. OMG! Is he not in his 6th year in the NFL? What was Knapp, Steve Young and whoever else has been coaching him for the last 6 years been trying to do? This was laughable, another analyst afraid to give an honest opinion of vick and his maturation in the NFL. Vick is not an NFL quarterback and never will be. Faulk also suggested that the falcons bring in a coordinator that would take advantage of Vick’s talent. So what is he supposed to be a pocket passer or someone that runs first and passes second and the team is designed around or that becomes a team player? When pressed as to who that coordinator might be Faulk could offer up Norm Chow as the only candidate. This was based on what Chow has done with Vince Young in Tennessee. What is this crap? Vince Young at least knows how to stand in the pocket and pass, Young’s instincts are pass first and run second. Young’s instincts tell him to try and involve all his playmakers. Vick’s instincts are about Vick and Vick alone! Norm Chow my advice would to be to stay away from the coach killer Vick! I think I’m gonna be sick! Vick will never be a pocket passer or a real quarterback. News Flash to Mike Vick and his fans, one game here or one game there does not make you a pocket passer! 19 TD’s and 12 interceptions does not make you a hall of fame quarterback. 1,000 yards rushing? nice novelty but that does not win superbowls! Giving 100% at all times, leading your team to victory under tough circumstances, making all those around you better, involving all your playmakers and not worrying about your own stats is what wins superbowls. Sadly these are qualities Mike Vick does not have nor wants to have!

By Shakeem Orongelo Mustafa Jones

December 27, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Ifs you peoples dont be stoppin duh doggin on duh bruta mista vicks den we gonna has to call duh revrand al shaupton on youuns. or maybe dat dude farrakan. youze betta watch yosef now.

By Falcons Stink

December 27, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Another bit of intelligent analysis and witty insight from a Vick fan!

By UGA Red necks and @$$ holes $ux

December 27, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Larry you have to be a uga fan . The redneck in you shows up big time. Why don’t you stop looking a football and watch the red neck games. All the players of color is going to kill your red neck hillbilly @$$. Watch the NHL maybe that will help your eyes! SOB like you are world killers! you are full of hate!

By David

December 27, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

The Falcons SHOULD fire Mora because Mora has underachieved with the Falcons for two consecutive years and it appears to be a trend that will continue in the years to come. The Falcons lost three games that they should have won against Detroit, Cleveland and last week against Carolina. Those are 3 losses which inevitably cost the birds a playoff berth. Had the Falcons won those three games in particular their current record would have been NO WORSE THAN 10-5, which would have resulted in a playoff spot. In addition, had the Falcons been playing GREAT the whole season, the Falcons would have at least split their games with the Saints, and certainly beaten the Cowboys which would have given them a 12-3 record, placing the Falcons among the games elite teams, which is where Michael Vick feels that the Falcons should be at this time (and I wholeheartedly agree with Vick on that point). The verdict, however, on Mora should be held in abeyance until the outcome of the Falcon’s final game of the season. If the Falcons go up to Philly and win the game, which they should, then Mora should be given a reprieve of one more year to get things straightened out, which I think he can. But in light of the fact that the Falcons have been thoroughly beaten the past two weeks makes me believe the Falcons will get blown out in Philly which should result in Arthur Blank giving Jimmy Boy (coach Mora) a swift kick in the rear end, sending him out the door into orbit and onto the streets of unemployment forever, since he was unable to perform competently as a head coach for the Falcons. Vick should be traded as soon as possible while promoting Matt Schaub to starting quarterback since Schaub is the best quarterback in the league anyway. Making those moves should dramatically improve the Falcons and give them a solid foundation for next season.

By D-Man

December 27, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

**Larry, Larry, and Larry,

Your judgement again kills you on this blog, no I am not a little league coach but a high school coach, and your not the only one with success I only do it because its my passion but enough about me. Lets talk Falcons and again, you didn’t really answer my question you just touched on it. Yes Vick is not great but he is good at what he does….My question stated that if Tom Brady was here would the same year be different? And you touched on it by saying thats what we need? You didn’t answer it so……intelligant, wealthy man Larry; instead of attacking me try the question first because I could go back and forth with you all day, but I only signed on to talk falcons. I could back everything I say up Mr. Larry, I don’t pose having a perfect wife care and selling business as you, but I do well for myself Mr. Larry. So lets keep it Falcons here.**

By ICEMAN

December 27, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

Idiots,

The falcons had their shot,ok? We need to see total, and I mean total, revamping of this team particularly in the area of coaching. I suggest a move to get Jimmy Johnson or Bill Cowher: two superbowl winning discipline oriented coaches.

By Eternal Optimist

December 27, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Mr Shakem Jones,I don’t think anyone would actually mistake you for a “brotha”. How racist as that. Is this America 2006 or 1950. You guys should take a serious look in the mirror.

By MALONE

December 27, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

Why no real suggestions about a coach to replace Mora?

By Ken Strickland

December 27, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

WOW LARRY, IF THOSE STATED ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE TRUE, IT ONLY SHOWS HOW ONE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN BUSINESS, AND STILL BE AN ABSOLUTE FAILURE AS A MORAL, COMPASSIONATE, INSIGHTFUL, TOLERANT HUMAN BEING. THIS IS REVEALED BY YOUR TOTALLY IRRATIONAL, UNSUBSTANTIATED, STEROTYPICAL VIEW OF AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE. IF EVERYONE WAS AS EMOTIONALLY WEAK AS YOU LARRY, LIKE YOU, WE’D ALL BE USING THE ACTIONS OF THE FEW TO JUDGE THE ACTIONS OF THE MANY.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE JUDGED BY THE FOLLOWING FACTS? (1)THE MAJORITY OF WELLFARE RECIPIENTS ARE WHITE(2)THE MAJORITY OF SERIAL BOMBERS, MURDERS AND RAPISTS ARE WHITE(3)THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN US MENTAL INSTITUTIONS ARE WHITE(4)THE MAJORITY OF CHILD MOLESTERS AND PORNOGRAPHERS ARE WHITE(5)THE MAJORITY OF TRAITORS ARE WHITE(6)THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT COMMIT INCEST ARE WHITE(6)THE MAJORITY OF DOCUMENTED CASES OF CANNIBALISM HAS BEEN COMMITTED BY WHITES, ETC, ETC,ETC.

ARE WE TO DEFINE YOU BY THESE FACTS LARRY? IS THAT WHO AND WHAT YOU REALLY ARE LARRY? WHEN PEOPLE HOLD OTHERS TO, OR JUDGE THEM BY, A CRITERIA THEY WILL NOT HOLD THEMSELVES, THEY ARE COMMITTING HYPOCRISY. THOSE THAT COMMITT HYPROCRISY ARE CALLED HYPROCRITES. EITHER WAY LARRY, YOU ARE A LOSER.

By Brian

December 27, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Cowher and Wisenhunt! Let Knapp and Mora go find a high school out West to coach.

And while we are at it, lets find players who want to earn their paychecks. I know if I performed as they did at work on Sunday, I’d be fired in a heartbeat.

Blank - Do something or I’m shopping at Lowe’s

By Ken Strickland

December 27, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

SORRY, I ACCIDENTLY HIT THE POST BUTTON BEFORE I WAS FINISHED. I WANT TO FINISH BY SAYING, I AM INTELLENGENT AND EMOTIONALLY WELL ADJUSTED ENOUGH TO REALIZE THESE FACTS ONLY REPRESENT THE ACTIONS OF THE FEW, AND IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE WHOLE.

ALL RACISTS AREN’T WHITE, AND MOST N???? AREN’T BLACK.

By D-Man

December 27, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

I guess because my sign-on name is D-Man I can’t be anything….You’ve said it right Ken Strickland, I couldn’t have said it any better!!

Ohh watch what comes next from Mr. I can’t answer easy questions Larry!!!

shhh…Let’s listen!!!

By D-Man

December 27, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

Hey all and all let’s talk football because only an idiot uses this blog for racist comments!!

Players I want to see gone with all of the coaches are: Jason Webster, Allen Rossum, Maybe Roddy White, Chris Crocker -we can purchase a better safety, Our entire line -maybe keeping Gandy.

We really need to start Jimmy Williams this kid can tackle, I coaches are stupid for keeping him on the side all year there dumb as hell to have kept him there he is wayyyyyyyy talented than Jason Webster but I haven’t a clue as to why Ed D. haven’t figured this out.

By Dave

December 27, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

Obvious Fact #1: The Atlanta Falcons probably will NOT make the playoffs, simply because they have NOT won a MUST game all season. However, they STILL have a chance, courtesy of the NFL flex schedule (see below for scenario).

Obvious Fact #2: The Atlanta Falcons have the talent to go deep into the playoffs if they make the playoffs.

Obvious Fact #3: The Atlanta Falcons would be 10-5 had they won games they SHOULD have won (Detroit, Cleveland, 2nd Carolina game).

Obvious Fact #4: Jim Mora, though a nice guy and a good football man, is NOT CURRENTLY up to the job of being a NFL head coach, yet MAY keep his job despite this Obvious Fact.

How, you say, can the Falcons win?

Actually, it’s pretty simple.

Here is the scenario:

  • The Giants, a team even MORE is disarray than the Falcons, will likely lose to a hungry Redskins team who wants to end their home season on the upnote of upsetting NY and playing spoiler.

  • New Orleans, the clearly superior team, will beat Carolina, who will not be able to pull the same tricks they got away with against Atlanta.

  • Green Bay will lose to a Chicago team whose defense is simply too good to lose.

  • This is the MOST UNLIKELY possibility, but if it happens, Atlanta is virtually GUARANTEED a win: The Detroit Lions will upset the Dallas Cowboys.

In the above scenario, all but the Green Bay game happens BEFORE the Atlanta-Philadelphia 4:15 starting time. If Dallas loses, Philadelphia wins the NFC East by default and is guaranteed the #3 seed; they do NOT NEED TO WIN.

If that is the case, WHY for goodness sake would Andy Reid risk injury to ANY of his frontline players to play a game which does nothing to enhance Philadelphia’s playoff position? The answer is that he would not. He would start Feeley instead of Garcia and every backup he could. He would do NOTHING to reveal his game plan for beating the Atlanta Falcons, because the Falcons is the team he would meet in the opening round of the NFL playoffs.

So, should Falcons’ fans root for the Redskins, the Saints, the Bears, and the Lions??

Given Obvious Fact #4, ABSOLUTELY NOT!!

The worst possible thing that could happen this season is FOR ATLANTA TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!! Why?? Because, if they do, Arthur Blank would be given reason NOT to fire Jim Mora!!

Don’t get me wrong! I LIKE Jim Mora. He is a nice guy and a decent football man! He was just given a head coaching job about six years too early in his coaching career. He had a great first year, but he did that with the players Coach Reeves had left him. In his 2nd and 3rd season, his teams have not played .500 ball.

Blank has stated publicly that an 8-8 season with no playoff spot is NOT acceptable. The standard was set, and Blank has the justification to fire Mora and start over with a new head coach and new coaching staff if it is not met! However, if the Falcons make the playoffs, then Mora has MET THE STANDARD, and will be given another season or two!

That is the WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO THE FALCONS!!!!

With Mora as head coach in 2007 and possibly 2008, the Falcons would be condemned to mediocre play and just-missed-the-playoffs performances for TWO MORE YEARS!

So, for the long-term benefits of the Atlanta Falcons, let’s all hope that one of the four teams in question (the Redskins, the Saints, the Lions, the Bears) loses their game, so that Arthur Blank can do what MUST BE DONE to allow Vick and company to possibly make it to a Super Bowl.

Because it will NEVER happen with Jim Mora as the head coach!!

Just my Humble Opinion!

By Titothebear

December 27, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

Many folks seem to want to blame Mora and let Vick off as some sort of victim. Some complain that the system employed by the offense of the Foulcons is too binding and needs to be more flexible. The truth is that this offense is drawn up around Vick and his abilities. This is not a West Coast Offense! The running game of the Foulcons is pretty good but the statistics are inflated by Vick’s rushing totals. The fact of the matter is that Vick’s yardage amounts to nothing, as it is the result of scrambles resorted to after he’s been unable to find an open receiver or has failed to throw the ball at the proper point of the route. After the game on Sunday, the loss to the Panthers, Vick criticized the offensive scheme. He played horribly and is to blame for the loss but he’s trying to save his job. The coach killer, and that’s exactly what he is, has played remarkably well in two games in his six-year career. He’s been awful for the majority of the rest. It’s time to dump Mora, his staff, the general manager and Vick. Fire them all. The Foulcons will never win with Vick. We keep hearing about what a winner he is but how can he be a winner when his team is below five hundred? Vick is terrible and he has to go. Now!

By ICEMAN

December 27, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Titothebear,

Vick won’t be fired because of this city’s favorite game:”Name that Race!”

These people care more about feeling good because they see someone they like playing more than they do winning football games. That’s our problem. Racebaiting has become the scourge of the world.

By Ken Strickland

December 27, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

D-MAN, I noticed you said maybe on RWhite. I believe he will be the key to next yrs passing attack. After being demoted, and dropping that sure TD pass, he didn’t drop his head. He turned up his concentration, waited for the next opportunity, and caught everything thrown his way after that. He also ran better, crisper routes and got open. He has the size, speed, ability, and attitude, to be a very good REC’r. His problem was a lack of concentration.

By UGA Red necks and @$$ holes $ux

December 27, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

By the iceaman you are right. Vick will be here 10 more years. Now go and die you red neck! you have the lowest form of $hit for brains!

By fatz

December 27, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this

why don’t we arrange a 3 way lottery with the giants and cowboys and swap coaches next yr. those 2 teams are just as sorry as the falcons, when it comes to highly touted squads delivering nothing against quality opponents…….. maybe we’ll get the tuna man and he’ll bring best buddy T.O. with him. we already know he’s a good fit since he drops half the stuff thrown to him….. the NFC was complete crap this year, except for the bears (who i still wonder about) and the saints (who made smart player decisions..). if the AFC starts sliding down the slippery slope of parity/mediocrity then this league will start to find it tougher to finance 100,000 seat stadiums like jjones envisions. and 5 networks carrying games probably represents a peak. i’m sure steve mariucci gets a call next week. i don’t know if he is the right guy, but it really is about keeping the fans interested, and he’s probably the easiest way to put lipstick on the pig and get her ready for next year’s roast.

By David

December 27, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

OK. For those folks who want to fire Moron (Mora) and haven’t named suitable replacements for him, I’ll go on record right now and name at least 5 very competent replacements for Mora. #1-Bill Walsh (former San Francisco 49er coach); #2-Jimmy Johnson; #3-Bill Cohwer; #4-George Seifert; and #5-Jerry Rice. I think these 5 gentlemen would prove to be very competent as head coach of the Atlanta Falcons and I trust that Arthur Blank will make a great decision after firing Mora.

By keeping it real

December 27, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

we need Norm Chow!

By SC

December 27, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

Look at Arthur Blank on the sidelines. This is not the look of an owner that has confidence in his coach. Mora is gone. With the upcoming search for a new head coach, I hope Arthur puts more emphasis on achievement than on a glib interview.

The Falcons offense is impotent. Greg Knapp may have studied under Bill Walsh, but with each botched gimmick play call, he has looked more and more desperate. It is still hard to accept that after so many of us in this blog joked about using Matt Shaub as a WR, Knapp actually fulfilled the farce in the Dallas game.

Given your report regarding Vick speaking for several other players, Steve, it is pretty clear that the players on offense have lost faith in Greg Knapp. I’d also say that if Vick is speaking up in a news conference, the only conclusion is that there is an unhealthy absense of communication between the coaches and the players. I’d bet that Mora does not have the same feedback mechanism which Bill Cowher installed early in Pittsburgh.

This team needs a new head coach. A winning coach is not mystified when a team doesn’t ‘execute’. He knows who screwed up. He doesn’t rely upon player meetings. That’s a warning sign of bigger problems. A winning coach makes timely defensive adjustments. Winning offensive coaches don’t bang their heads against the proverbial wall, they start using what works, even if that means god forbid, throwing to Justin Griffith on a regular basis. Good coaches notice when defender starts using poor tackling technique and runs him, no matter how large the ego, through tackling drills.

Too many stupid penalities. Players losing their cool with unsportsmanlike conduct. Stuffed game plans. Poor fundamentals on defense. Slow adjustments to problems. Alow reaction to use what has worked. These are symptoms of poor coaching. Mora has got to go.

By Charlie

December 27, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

BirdDawg,

What century do you live in? Forsyth county…spelled without the e genius is not the Forsyth Co. of your limited memory. We have the highest per capita income in Georgia and in S. Forsyth we have the highest per capita income in the Southeastern U.S. The locals needing their “special” drycleaning were run out more then 10 years ago and now everyone living here is from somewhere else. So get your facts straight and quit slamming somewhere you don’t know anything about. Kind of like your football knowledge.

As far has Larry goes, what an idiot! And I for one enjoy hip-hop and the hip-hoppers (saw Little G-Z after the Hawks game the other night) and they can wear what they want, they are paying for tickets too.

So all of you out there, before you try to stereotype a person, a place or music or football or anything else, at least try to know what you are talking about.

That said…goodbye Jimmy & Knappy and take Ed with you. NFL defenses do get worn down when they are on the field for 42 minutes no matter who you have on the team. What we need is someone who will discipline/smack the players when they don’t listen! Cowher would be great, but doesn’t he have a year left on his contract “up there”? :)

By Don't cry now...

December 27, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

Many people come on these blogs and try to convince others that they are tired of “race baiting” and “others claiming racism for everything”. Let’s be honest about this…you’re tired from reading a blog…which has only been around for a couple of years. Victims of racism have been going through this for 350+ years…do you think they care what you’re tired of after two years? So don’t complain to the oppressed…complain to your ancestors for wasting the 300 year education head start and creating this society through their own ignorance that has apparently trickled down your family blood lines. The apple really hasn’t fallen far from the tree.

By SC

December 27, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

From dictionary.com:

troll

v.,n. 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames;

  1. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1;regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a news group, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait.

Please don’t feed the trolls.

By BirdDawg

December 27, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

If anyone here believes anything that Larry said about himself, well I have some real estate in Brooklyn, NY that I want you to check out.

Larry the owner of anything besides David Allen Coe’s Greatest Hits?

Yeah right!

Larry with a Mensa Level IQ?

Only if Mensa has so lowered its standards that Forrest Gump could get in.

Larry married to anything besides his right hand?

Only if he calls her sister-mama-wife.

Larry is probably some dumb@$$ 20 year-old redneck from Forsythe Co. whose favorite pastimes are wackin’, and playing Playstation, and drinking Natty Light, and blaming everything in his life on black people, ‘specially those uppity rich ones in sports.

Larry is the outright definition of a worthless human being.

He is quite literally worth less than what he deposits in the toilet twice daily.

Larry is a piect of $hit, pure and simple.

And anyone who believes whatever he’s bragging about has some serious issues… starting with Larry himself.

I mean, come on people, are we to believe that titothehomo and Larry are both wildly successful, intelligent people after we’ve read their illogical, unintelligent drivel? Are we to believe that those two are a college professor and captain of industry, respectfully?

More like Community College dropout for titothehomo, and worker of industry for Larry; probably at a chicken plant in Gainesville or Dawsonville, which are close enough to his Forsythe Co. home, that Larry is never late to his Klan meetings.

In fact, since they both love to tell us fantastic stories about who they are and what they have, I am willing to believe that titothehomo and Larry are one in the same. Their modus operendi are very similar, as is the bull$hit they write everyday.

So run with that, y’all. Larry and titothehomo… the same sexually, socially, and racially frustrated redneck, Klan-member, idiot 20 year-old from Forsythe Co.

AND STEVE, THE MAJORITY OF US ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN APOLOGY FOR YOUR HORRENDOUS “INTERVIEW” WITH LITTLE JIMMY MORA.

By Ken Strickland

December 27, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this

The next game will be the beginning of an interesting off season. Will the entire coaching staff be fired, or just Mora’s staff? Will Blank and McKay have a say in who the next DC and OC will be? Will the OFF be completely remade, or just upgraded. Will we use our 1st rd pick, or sign a FA CB, and move JWilliams to FS? Will they cut, or trade, LMalloy and move CCrocker to SS?

I believe the OLine is already set no matter who the coach will be. T-Gandy & Weiner, G-KForney & BClaxton, C-TMcClure. For those who didn’t know, Claxton, not Claybo, was the primary backup @ G. Whoever the next OC is, if he features Norwood as a REC(ala Bush), uses Griffin as a rusher, installs an audible package, uses spread formations featuring 3-4 REC sets, and uses creative play selection, our OFF will be prolific.

Our DEF just needs aggressiveness, better scheming and better recognition and utilization of available talent. Overall, the team needs more dicipline and more accountability.

By Mean D

December 27, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

This team will never win it all with Ron Mexico killing our salary cap and throwing the ball 3 yards over receivers heads. And Rich McKay has been a joke from the beginning. We all know why he lasted in Tampa as long as he did and why Gruden ran his butt out as soon as he took over.

The M&M boys - McKay and Mexico - NEED TO GO!!!!!!!

By Charlie

December 27, 2006 11:13 PM | Link to this

BirdDawg,

I don’t agree with Tito’s and Larry’s views, but did you read anything I said about Forsyth county you idoit?

Yes the stuff they write is drivel and I’m defending them, I’m defending where I live, but you are as bad as they are and apparently discriminate against others…hence the “homo” attached to the Tito name.

Hey Don’t Cry Now…You sound like a whiner and complainer who is trying to sound educated. Good luck with your chip…it won’t get you very far.

BTW, I thought this was a football blog. You want to slam somebody how about our hapless team?

By Charlie

December 27, 2006 11:20 PM | Link to this

Ken,

Nice post, thanks! But I do think we need some bigger talent on the DL. The behemoth GJ takes up some space but he needs somebody on the other side to help and I’m not sure if he will ever have the conditioning. I do see us get pushed around alot and we run out of gas easy.

By Wings of Victory

December 28, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

Wow! I leave for the holidays and the these blogs remain the same sad, pathetic drivel about race, Vick and why the Falcons will never field a winning team. Tito and Larry continue their same old tired racist diatribes. Seeking attention they so desperately need. From some one. ANY ONE! Geez! “Tis a tale told by an idiot. Full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.”

By David

December 28, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Bill Walsh should absolutely be the first person called for the upcoming coaching vacancy which will be created when Mora is fired. Walsh has won multiple championships and is the person responsible for inventing the famous “West Coast Offense”. Walsh should be brought in as head coach and he should hire Jerry Rice as his wide receivers coach. Rice will be happy to demonstrate to the Falcon wideouts the proper way to catch balls and show techniques that will prevent the multitude of drops that have occurred by the Falcon wide receivers this season. Those DROPS by the wide receivers SHOULD lead to Coach Mora being DROPPED as head coach.

By stargazersfalcons.com

December 28, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

As for a win in Philly, I don’t see this happening. The Eagles have secured a wildcard playoff spot and now stand to play that game at “home” with a win against the Falcons on Sunday.

The Eagles in the past have always been good about keeping Vick in check, especially when there is a title on the line.

The Falcons are a great team with a lot of wasted talent, better than most, when they want to put that talent to good use.

But, Philly knows what’s on the table right now and they are going to find a way to end this game as the victor.

Mora is weak on job security right now and has other things on his mind going into this game, much more, besides a playoff possibility.

http://www.stargazersfalcons.com

By Eternal Optimist

December 29, 2006 06:36 AM | Link to this

Well folks, another .500 season. What do we do from here. It’s obvious that we will revamp our defense/offense but I’m afraid we will loose some of our most promising free agents. Demorrio Williams is a free agent at years end. I really like him. I know you all don’t want to hear this but he and Boley should start at outside linebacker. Brooking is still good,but he has been slowing up and he makes most of his tackles 10 yds down field. We should cut our losses with Hartwell and find another big inside backer. Coleman and G Jackson need help in the middle. Drafting a big Dlineman is definetely needed. Did anyone see how Jimmy Williams played in the last game. The young guy is a beast. How could Donatell sit him on the bench all this time. He looked like our best tackling corner to me. We should also look at drafing a young safety to be mentored by Milloy. Chris C constantly gets beat deep and Milloy is aging fast. Please trade Webster and understand that though Rossom tries, he is not an NFL caliber corner. He gets manhandled out there. He’s to small to cover todays big wideouts. We should draft for size first then speed. Speed for the skill positions and size for everything else. Trade Shaub,(yeah we will miss him-but he will do us no good holding a clip board and no way he starts before Vick I don’t care what anybody says, it’s just not logical) we could get prime players or draft picks for him. Donatell and Knapp must go, and if Mora doesn’t like it get rid of him too. We need a disciplinarian for this young team, and for Vick. Reeves did not allow Vick to backslide, and that’s what he needs someone who will stay on his a—, pardon my French. Our offense scheme should be something similiar to what San Diego runs. Spreading the field and getting your backs out in space. Throwing deep and opening up lanes when the pass isn’t there for Vick to zip up field.

By lawrence

January 1, 2007 02:20 PM | Link to this

Newsflash from Ms.Cleo Psychic!!!!It’s now 1 Jan 2008 LOSER FALCONS lose another 8 games and Vick laughs all the way to the bank with another 12 million dollars. Mike Vick says he learned the new offense and it’s not his fault but the officials and the NFL is against him running the ball all the time.. Same story just different day, and coach and Vick is still getting paid to lose.
Don’t blame the coach blame the QB who sucks and has had 6 years to prove he can win in the NFL and seems to win 7 games. It’s not his O-line they are better than the 41million under the cap Titans and Vince Young wins. It’s the coach killcr Mike Vick. You must be as dumb as you sound. Football is a team sport and it involves a 52 man roster but it’s also about chemistry and leadership. Michael Vick can run there is no doubt when his feet hit the ground watch out. But a QB is he central figure on a team the leader kind of like the motor in a car. If the QB isn’t up to the job or unable to handle it the car won’t work either will the team. So he has been the most successful QB in Falcons history but is 7 games a season satisfaction? Playoffs, Superbowl championships that is why the game is played. One man can change a team look at Drew Brees, the saints were the bottom of the NFL for years. It’s the same team as last year minus Vick’s cousin A. Brooks. Drew Brees came in to NO and had already won in SD and was a QB who understands an NFL offense and defense. This year they are winning and swept the Falcon’s. Tom Brady took over for Drew Bledsoe they win, Vince Young takes a college team no one respect the Texas Longhorns and showe the universe it is sometimes a one man team. He had been doing his running and passing for three years at Texas and beat USC with his legs and arm. Michael Vick doesn’t have that fire in him anymore and it shows in his productions. Vince Young has a team that is 41 million under the cap with no talent and only won three games the year before and traded their franchise QB. Now the QB of the future has arrived he knows when to run and to pass and he has always played in a shotgun offense. No talent on his team and the Falcons are loaded with it. Maybe it is Vick he wants to be Mr. everything and not be a member with more than one star. Where is T.J. Duckett, Peerless Price? He isn’t the leader you need for this franchise and he needs to go unless 7 wins is what you want every year. Those are the facts and everything else you say doesn’t make sense you are defending Vick. 19 TD’s how many INT’s has he thrown for the year? Compare him to Vince Young, Drew Brees or anyone who has been in the NFL the same amount of time and Vick is behind the power curve.

Other teams have realized it’s time to start fresh, Steelers, Cowboys, Titans to name a few you the Falcons can’t let go of Vick and his I love you finger.

I enjoy seeing the Falcons sucks and know that Vick is the reason.

Why do you think that numbers are what makes you winners? If that was the case than Dan Marino would own more Lombardi Trophies than anyone. It’s not about numbers it about leading and making your team want to win and play. Look at the Saints last year the traveling team of the NFL. No one has wanted to play for the Aints since they were the doormats of the NFC. Drew Brees has inspired his team mates to win and to not worry about numbers but about performance on the field. They are 10-5 and swept the Falcons beating them on MNF too. A QB is the leader of a team and like an NCO in the military must provide leadership and the ability to motivate them to accomplish the mission which is winning games. No one is going to win every game but when they are inspired to win when the offense is pathetic like the TItans against Jacksonville that is leadership. Every organization will replace their leadership if they can’t do the job in the Army, or at a fortune 500 club. If a person is performing substandard and the mission is to win and they don’t than they need to be replaced. Michael Vick isn’t winning games and he won’t take reponsibility for his miscues or actions and lack of productivity and he disrespects the Falcon fans. Those who are loyal to him he gives you the “bird” the finger of appreciation and love. He makes money that he doesn’t deserve since he is played to win games lots of them not half or a few but to win championships and the Superbowl not Jersey’s or Madden games. His job is to win he isn’t doing that 500% isn’t winning it’s below average and that is a bust in the real world. The coach is too blame also for not benching him and trying other options Bill Parcells, Dennis Green, Mike Shanahan benched their starters to win. Some were successful and some weren’t the rookie QB’s haven’t been in the NFL 6 years. These are QB’s out of college and so they can’t win them all but when they win as many or more than a veteran QB who is suppose to be Superman the human highlight reel than we have a problem. Face it Michael Vick is a cancer and a problem that needs to go away. He shows his love for the fans with a F%@# you gesture and doesn’t win more than 7 games a season. 6 years and 47 wins and 52 losses I know one win away or loss from an NFC championship. He doesn’t produce the numbers he agreed or promised when he signed his FAT contract. SO don’t defend him show him the door and say Aloha.

These are the facts as of 25 Dec 2006.

The formula works if the Falcons take an early lead, but the team is 0-15 under Mora when Atlanta trails entering the fourth quarter.

Vick, meanwhile, has lost the edge he had from 2002-04, when he seemed capable of nearly taking over games at will. He finished 9-for-20 against Carolina for 109 yards, two interceptions and a 22.7 passer rating that’s the third worst of his career.

Entering Week 16, Vick had a fourth-quarter rating (59.4 percent) that ranked 34th in a 32-team league. His receivers were 31st in yards after the catch and 13th in drops.

Michael Vick the 60 million dollar bust and coach killer who can’t understand an NFL West Coast Offense or read an NFL defense.

When the rest of Atlanta Losers I mean Falcons. These are the facts face it. Get over it and get a new QB 6 years 60 million dollars later and no more than 8 wins. I know you are loyal to Vick but reality sucks and so does staying home another year. On his first carry, Vick rushed for 17 yards to become the first NFL quarterback to rush for 1,000 yards in a season. Andersen gave the Falcons a 3-0 lead with a 40-yard field goal in the first quarter that moved him past Gary Anderson for the all-time lead. Andersen now has 539 career field goals.

Vick had four carries for 32 yards and completed 9 of 20 passes for 109 yards with two interceptions.

That makes any team a winner two INT’s and 9 of 20. A great NFL QB the Falcons should win it all every year.

Brees, who came into the day with more than 4,000 yards passing and 25 TDs, finished 13-of-32 for 132 yards on a day his receivers dropped at least eight passes.

— If Vince Young keeps this up, the Tennessee Titans just might do the unthinkable and make the playoffs.

The rookie first-round draft pick has the Tennessee Titans (8-7), who started the season with five straight losses, alive in the AFC playoff race entering the final weekend after rallying them to a 30-29 win over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday.

The doubters have motivated Young all season long.

Young threw two touchdown passes and rushed for another to engineer his fourth comeback in the fourth quarter or overtime. This time, he helped Tennessee overcome a 29-20 deficit in the final 12 minutes. After hitting Brandon Jones for a 29-yard touchdown pass, Young engineered a 14-play, 75-yard drive, which Rob Bironas capped with a 30-yard field goal with 2:10 left.

Young’s most electrifying play came at the end of the first half, when he scored on a 36-yard keeper on a fourth-and-2.

Tennessee Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Young 13/20 183 2 0

Tom Brady directed three long touchdown drives, capped one of them with a perfect touch pass to David Thomas, and helped the Patriots clinch their fourth consecutive AFC East crown with a 24-21 victory against the Jaguars on a rainy Sunday. Brady was brilliant in both games at Alltel Stadium.

He was 23-of-33 for 236 yards and two touchdowns in the Super Bowl victory against Philadelphia. He was even better against the Jaguars (8-7).

He finished 28-of-39 for 249 yards and a touchdown, completing passes to 10 receivers and picking apart the NFL’s second-ranked defense mostly with short and quick throws. He also ran 10 times for 31 yards, getting several first downs on sneaks and scrambling for yards to avoid sacks.

“He’s a great leader,” offensive tackle Matt Light said. “He went out there and did what he always does. Whenever we needed a big play he’s always out there making them.”

Atlanta Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Vick 9/20 109 0 2 Vick had four carries for 32 yards and completed 9 of 20 passes for 109 yards with two interceptions.

Look at Vick’s numbers against other QB’s who win.

Vick Coach Killer and 60 million dollar bust.

The Falcons (7-8) suffered their fourth-straight home loss.

Vick doesn’t inspire his team to win when he blames them and doesn’t look at himself. Look at Arizona, Leinart he wins and he is a rookie, Tony Romo wins, Drew Brees inspired a city and he swept the Falcons. . It’s about dollars and earing what you are paid. Simple economics. How many people would live in a 60 million dollar house and the roof leaks 50% of the time, or drive a car that works 4 days out of the week. You wouldn’t keep an employee who worked or produced 50% of the time so why allow Vick. Leader he doesn’t inspire the Falcons to win Drew Brees does, Tom Brady, Tony Romo among others. Vick needs to realize he isn’t going to make it as an NFL Elite QB. Admit to himself that he needs to work harder and learn. IF Vick was so gifted why did Dan Reeves bring Steve Young to help him out after his first season? Watch game films, study and learn the playbook, don’t make excuses just do your job and be a leader not a bust.

When the city and Atlanta Falcons fans realize this only will they start to win.

A franchise player wins not just collects a pay check. The NFL is about Superbowls not 7 wins a year. The Falcon organization was stupid to make Vick the franchise player or should I say bust in the NFL. Brees, Brady, Manning those are marque franchise players who win more than 7 games a year. He doesn’t have it and he never will so don’t make excuses for him he is laughing all the way to the bank with Falcon fans money.

Vick coach killer

Mike Vick the David Carr of the NFC.

and the rest of the LOSER Falcon fans. Why do you insist on keeping Vick as QB? He isn’t winning for the money he is making and Vince Young is better than Vick. Vince Young no team 41 million under the cap no talent and inspires his team to win Vick blames his team. Michael Vick wants to always run this is the NFL not CFL or Europe NFL he is a QB a passing QB. Vince Young with Norm Chow has learn how to pass and when to run and now Vick is being compared to Vince Young. Remember Vick has had 5 years of experience on Vince Young but it doesn’t show in his leadership blames everyone for bad games. And his I love the fans with the finger so he must go. His numbers suck and he won’t win under a new system no one ever has. He didn’t win with Mora’s WEST COAST OFFENSE and it had to be simplified for him imagine brining in someone who’s playbook is complicated. Vick would be reading NFL Offense for dummies. AS for Drew Brees they didn’t want him in SD and he wasn’t a first round pick but now he schooled ATL this year on winning and looks worth every penny. Vick well he is laughing all the way to the bank and he doesn’t have the expectations of VY, Drew Brees or a winning QB to win game in order to get paid.

Vick didn’t do anything in college ball but left early and was hailed the new QB. They were wrong and Vince Young has proven them Vick doesn’t have the understanding of an NFL QB. Remember VY won 8 games and Michael Vick hasn’t won more than 7 games a year so don’t talk about that one just the facts. Vick sucks as a QB and now he is paid so much BIG MISTAKE no one will take him. Not even the Houston Texans so he is a liability and gets a new coach same results next year and I will be the first to tell everyone in GA.

Vick Coach Killer

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