Falcons

By keeping it real!

December 13, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Vick is our QB. And that that.Schaub will line up as a wide out on goal line and Vick will pass the ball to Shockley. Grady Jackson will be fullback on the goal line and block for Dunn. Mora you and your staff needs to let it all hang out this week. We need this win! Receiver this is your week to shine!

By genius3

December 13, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

This is the best news that I have heard all of the year. Finally dem peoples are starting to listen to us smart bloggers. I said from the start that Vick belongs in the backfield and Schaub should be the QB. If they really do this, they will beat Dallas easily. For six years we have been trying to make a QB out of Vick and people, if it ain’t happened in six years, it’s just not gonna happen. This is the best of both worlds; a great runner and a great QB in the same backfield. I wonder if Mora had enough sense to do this or he really did listen to us smart bloggers. Can’t wait for the game on Saturday; it’s gonna be a great day of tom-foolery. The genious has spoken.

By Greedy

December 13, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

I love jim mora , but if he puts vick in the backfield as a running back , he is an idiot. That s 137 million dollar investment , when he runs out of the pocket he does not absorb big shots. this is crazy , jg play rb in college, if alex gibbs offense blocking scheme is so great , we should be fine justin griffin. fire his a* vick gets hurt

By Larry

December 13, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

If Mora/Knapp lined Vick at RB and didn’t run a trick play, they should be fired on the spot!!

If I’m Dallas, and I see Vick as a RB, I’m bringing the house. I would love to see Vick try to pick up the blitz.

By fast-enema

December 13, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

There is no danger of putting both of these QB’s on the field at the same time; what a bunch of baloney. The danger is continuing this losing streak and sorry performance of an overpaid quarterback. Put them both on the field and let’s get this team to the playoffs. It is time to do what is best for fans and for the team; we want to win these games, we don’t care how it is done. Let Vick sell jerseys all day long but let’s get some wins under our belt. We have been 6 years without a superbowl; time to get this thing going again.

By Andy

December 13, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Who at ESPN reported this? Sounds like something to keep Dallas’s DC Zimmer up at night more than a true formation, though all the tricks should come out this week, since the Saints showed Dallas can’t defend them. Half Back passes, reverses, flea flickers, open the whole friggin’ playbook to get that W Mr. Knapp!

Steve, I’d like to see a piece on Rich McKay and WRs….why he can’t draft (or trade for) any great ones????

By Pigskinmutt

December 13, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

Blank has put this franchise on Vick who will sell jerseys and other marketing items but we will never see a super bowl. Balance wins in the NFL. Blank is a marketing man and hit a home run on Vick. But building a dominant football club with one super star will not get it done.

By TECH FAN

December 13, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

genius3
u r an idiot

By Here I am

December 13, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

I second the notion of genius3 being an idiot.

By chichi

December 13, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

vicks not going to be a running back peroid if anything they might run some sort of gadget play one time and get one of our two qbs killed. Its not happening

By bmullis

December 13, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

The defense will have to score for Mora to beat Parcell. That should not be too difficult with an Romo at QB.

We have a good shot at winning the next three games if we can overcome our coaching.

By Dawgs2006

December 13, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Vick should be used in any position where he can help the team. You are all a bunch of pansy a$%es worried about Vick getting hurt.

OOOHHHH NOOO!, Vick might get hurt and then what? We might blow the whole season and not make the playoffs?

You are a bunch of sissies. When the Falcons get their usual beat down because of their dead offensive, you can go crying to your mommy!

By Rell

December 13, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

Genuis 3,uhhh… when has Schaub shown you that he is a great QB…. Of course he looks good in the preseason, teams barely blizt and they rarely game plan. And before anyone says he played well against the Pats dont forget that they prepared to play Vick not Matt. If a team gamed planned for Matt during a regular season game what makes you people think he would turn out to be this great QB. Just a few years ago there was all this buzz about another backup we had and where is he now, probably still a backup somewhere. Not saying that Matt wont be good someday but lets be real… And Vick is not a running back people. You are not gonna see those 30 & 40 yard runs by Vick if he lined up at tailback and ran between the tackles 20 times a game. He can barely take getting sacked 5 times a game what makes you think he could take being hit by linebackers and safeties on the regular…

By keeping it real!

December 13, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

This is the game to see if change is a coming !Mora and Knapp and Donatell your career Rides on this game. You can blow all the smoke you want to by saying we have been working hard and we are staying the course Bull$hit! The Tuna will keep his job if he lose . you may not . You had better have your guys ready to play all 53 of them. You had better score fast and often on offense. On defense bring pressure fast and often and don’t get beat with deep pass. Field goal team need to do there job this week (schaub hold the ball)along with kick off team. Dallas will run one back on you . We need the A game. Shock the NFL world this week. The media and football gods pick you to lose. We the Fans pick the Falcons to win! Not to GO but to WIN!!!!

By blue tom

December 13, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

I think genius3 in right on; nothing idiotic about what was said. The truth hurts all of us I think. Go Ron Mexico.

By Chris J

December 13, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

this would be stupid for the falcons coaching staff to even dream about doing for all you guys who thinks schaub is the answer well he isnt vick’s win percentage translates to him winning 2 out of three games well schaub has started 3 games and he has won none of them i will take 122 passing yards and a game and a W then vick throwing for 298 a touchdown and being a traditional qaurter back and takin the L i usually dont comment on these blogs but man im in the navy in san diego and the only thing i have to look forward to is the falcons on sunday and i mean stop the hating Vick is here to stay i love the way he plays and the way he deals with everyone bashing him constantly if it aint his own atlanta fans then its analyst who say hes not a good passer i doubt anyone in wisconsin is downin Farve about throwin 20 ints or anyone in Indy is downin Manning for always choking in the big games so i mean you guys need to stop hating on Vick let the man do his thing i mean hes made something out of nothing with this offense that hasnt givin him much help from the play calling to the protection and the wide outs so support dont tear the man down everytime you get a chance

By TTCO

December 13, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Great idea! I hope they do it because it would give the Falcons a much better chance of winning.

By kelly

December 13, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Vick couldn’t run from the backfield up the middle anyhow. He’d be hurt in not time. Plus he’d have to figure out how to find the lanes, how to bust through, how to hesitate…that ain’t the open field.

Catch the damn ball receivers. Protect the damn ball, Vick.

By kelly

December 13, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

I’m hatin’ on the phrase ‘hatin’ on.’ It’s so asinine it’s assinten.

I thought slang automorphed automatically every 2 min. or so.

By David

December 13, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

The Falcons brass has finally discovered the errors of their ways. I also think the Falcons are finally understanding their mistake of having Vick as the starting quarterback. Schaub should have been given the starting quarterbacking job since day #1, since he is the man who is best equipped to perform supremely at the position. Move Vick over to tailback and rotate all four backs with Vick, Norwood, Dunn and Justin Griffith. I think the Falcons would be smart to use the same playbook that the Dallas Cowboys of the ’70s used to use with Tony Dorsett, Robert Newhouse, Calvin Hill , Duane Thomas and the rest of Americas Team back when football reined supreme. Back then the Cowboys under Tom Laundry used to run hundreds of formations in their playbook. If the Falcons copied the Cowboys and replicated those schemes with Schaub at the helm, the Falcons would win a superbowl this year, not to mention how many more they will win in the years to come. Do the right think, Sir Arthur and let Vick run wild from the tailback position with Schaub under center. I think you will be thrilled at the results of this wonderful experiment.

By Nicholas Irwin

December 13, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

I’m pretty sure we’re probably just talking about a couple of times, maybe to run a couple of trick plays out of. I guarantee you he’s not even remotely considering playing it that way for the entire game, or even an entire series. The failure of people to read between the lines on this and just assume they meant for the whole game is kind of humorous to me.

Assuming it is just used for a couple of trick plays, I have no problem with it whatsoever, and in fact am in favor of it. Something is needed to shake this offense up, and a couple of trick plays at a pivotal point in the game could be just what the doctor ordered.

Needless to say though, if they’re actually planning on doing this the entire game, they’ve all lost their minds. Even for those of you who want Schaub over Vick, you can’t possibly think it’s a good idea to, just out of the blue, with only a week’s preparation, make Vick the starting tailback. Even if he is capable of being a starting tailback in the NFL (which I don’t think he is…people seem to forget that most of the time you’re not running in the open field as a tailback, and Vick isn’t exactly a power runner), to put him there on just one week’s notice is pretty absurd. Get a grip, people!

By falcondawg

December 13, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Apparently, some of us don’t realize that Vick would not gain as much yardage as a running back. When he’s at qb, he runs to a hole when the rush is on. He has time to look for the hole as it opens. As a running back, he does not have time to wait for the hole to open and therefore, would not get nearly the yardage he gets now. Besides, I don’t believe he can take the hits on a regular basis that a rb has to take because his body’s not acclimated to it.

Schaub would have the same problem Vick has (lack of time to execute play) if the line doesn’t improve considerably with its blocking effectiveness.

By Mortensen INSIDER

December 13, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this

Some groundscrew guys I know up at Flowery Branch have seen some of the trick plays the Birds run — trick formations if you will. Though there’s no guarantee the ones they saw are the ones ESPN could be talking about, I’ve heard there’s a set where Norwood lines up under center (this was at midseason) and pitches to Vick who rolls and has a run-pass option and, possibly, a throw-back to Norwood. Of course, all teams have these wrinkles. My guys tell me Vick’s the only one taking snaps this week.

By Ken Anderson

December 13, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

This doof who covers the Falcons for the AJC (yeah, the same drip who covered UGA thinking he was some modern-day Grantland Rice) is actually right on this one, folks. Vick really is the QB … period. Though it might seem as though lining Vick up at one of the running-back spots would “open up” the offense, in reality all it would do is LIMIT the offense. The defense immediately knows Vick won’t be taking a handoff up the gut. Vick is already a threat enough in the backfield, having someone else take the snaps doesn’t add much. Oh, and this beatwriter dork, SAM WYCHE, needs to go into the garden section or something.

By KnappyTime Gone

December 13, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

The truth is, it’s impossible to evaluate what Schaub would do because he hasn’t played for an extended period. Yes, he’s payed well in the preseason and in his appearances in the regular season. However, no one really knows for sure how he’d do long term. I’m guessing very well, but he’ll never do that in a Falcons uniform as long as Vick is healthy. Face it, whether you like Vick or not, he’s going to be the Falcons QB for a long time. Frankly, I don’t see a problem with it. What has happened this is not because of him. He’s the same guy who took the Falcons to the playoffs twice, and he’s improved since then as a quarterback. People need to get off his a##.

By KnappyTime Gone

December 13, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

The truth is, it’s impossible to evaluate what Schaub would do because he hasn’t played for an extended period. Yes, he’s payed well in the preseason and in his appearances in the regular season. However, no one really knows for sure how he’d do long term. I’m guessing very well, but he’ll never do that in a Falcons uniform as long as Vick is healthy. Face it, whether you like Vick or not, he’s going to be the Falcons QB for a long time. Frankly, I don’t see a problem with it. What has happened this is not because of him. He’s the same guy who took the Falcons to the playoffs twice, and he’s improved since then as a quarterback. People need to get off his a##.

By Bj

December 13, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

If I was Vick I would get out of this redneck town. Using Vick as a running back and matt as a be is a joke. matt could’nt hold vick jock scrap. Until these redneck see this then he will not be welcome here.

By This gets old

December 13, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

My god Steve I can’t even believe you wrote this!

STOP FOR THE LOVE OF JEBUS, STOP THIS CRAP!

The only reason that we run as effectively as we do now is because of the threat of Vick running.

Nobody’s coming after Schaub! Vick’s not running for all of these yards because he simply takes off this early. Every game in the first qtr. the offense has to call a time out. Defensive players come clean all of the time on passes and runs. Measure Schaub for a shroud before you put him in there cause an immobile QB behind this line.

How did Brady play last week??? Peyton’s WR’s dropped balls last week and his defense sucks. SUCKS!

Who else would even ask this stupid question? TRADE VICK, LET HIM OUT OF THIS DAMNED COWTOWN!

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 13, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

I like the idea of using Vick in the backfield… for maybe ONE PLAY. Trick plays are nice if they are used RARELY, so that they take the defense by surprise. Yeah, it is risky, but so is every Vick scramble. I don’t want to see him running up the middle though, his legs are not strong enough to be a running back. But if you toss it to him one way, and he throws it laterally back to Schaub, and Schaub throws deep or something, that would be a nice trick play. But no, the Falcons are not stupid enough to put a $130 million dollar man with a cannon arm at running back, don’t get it twisted.

A trick play with Schaub in a 2-RB shotgun formation with Vick and Shockley next to him would be even cooler, but once again only for ONE PLAY. This offense already uses enough gimmick plays as it is (moving pockets, that read-option college play, etc.), and most of them usually don’t work because they are used too often. The Steelers get trick plays to work because they use them once or twice a game. The Falcons use one on nearly every drive. Use this play once or twice to cross up the defense, but that’s it.

By dan

December 13, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

ha! vick as runningback and shaub as qb. now there’s the way to win games. Put an inexperienced immobile quarterback behind an inexistent offensive line and put your franchise player in as running back to “pound” it up the middle and injure himself. Fantastic idea. Really. Why don’t they just quit the season right now and not even try to make the playoffs. That’s the message their sending with such an idiotic notion. Geez, why was such an article even written? Why did I even waste my time posting?

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 13, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

And also, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Falcons threw this out there just to make Dallas waste their time game-planning for it. This could all just be a massive decoy.

By Alan

December 13, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

The moron that came up with the idea even if its a journalist should be fired. Vick as a RB no chance in Heck. Now WR!! Just kidding. He’s a QB folks, Wake up. And a damn good one if somebody would catch the ball.

By Vick is a QB

December 13, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

He’d get hurt. The man has never taken a snap at RB in his life. It isn’t a position you can just convert to over night.

By Don KeBallz

December 13, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this

genius3 and David, Please stop sniffing Schaub’s jock! Great QB? Where, When? Lets run a solid game plan and the players need to execute when called upon. Go Falcons!

By James

December 13, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this

Defenses will be hitting Vick on every play if he is at RB. Vick will fumble if hit hard and could separate a shoulder or get injured worse. Vick is the QB. Shaub isn’t as good as you would like to think. Remember Doug Johnson?

By bamaboy

December 13, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Putting Vick at a wide out or in the slot ala Hines Ward would open up both the running and deep passing game. Matt Schaub has the poise and touch to make the defense pay and Michael Vick is tougher and can take a shot better than any of our receivers. If he gets the ball with a couple yards of open space he’s gone.

By Bubba

December 13, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

Vick has always been a running back. He can’t hit the broad side of a barn and never will. You either have it(passing skills) by high school or you don’t. That’s why the guy is always ranked 30th in the league. Quit blaming receivers and coaches for his problems. Line him up behind Schaub and re sign Schaub before he makes you look silly for the next 10 years. Cowboys by 20.

By jacob s

December 13, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

Listen… Vick will never play running back. It’s that simple. The reason he gets so many rushing yards now is because D’s have to be warry of the pass. If Vick lined up at RB, the D would bring 8 every time. If you want to make a change, look towards the wide recievers. Maybe we should take recievers late in the draft because apparently recievers who we take first round or ones we pick up who went first round have a strange affinity for dropping passes. Oh, and Mora is doing just fine. We’ve been under .500 with Mora as head coach for one game… I’ll take that any day. Vick needs to brush of all the criticism and Atlanta fans need to support him. We’ll be just fine the way we are.

By E.B.

December 13, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

I have been telling my son for 2 years. Put Micheal Vick at receiver,a defense would have to use a corner, a safety, and an linebacker to cover him in short yardage. And then just try to catch him when he gets the ball.

By Stupid Blog

December 13, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

If Jim Mora and Gregg Knapp are that stupid, and Vick gets hurt, I guarantee you Blank will have a new coach next year. And Mora would deserve to get axed!!!!

And guess what, it’s not just some of the Atlanta fans that are stupid but look at Carolina, they want a new qb over Delhomme. How stupid is that? Everybody loves the backup until he gets in and gets b!tch slapped.

By E.B.

December 13, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

put him at receiver, it would take a corner, linebacker and a safety to cover him. that takes 3 guys off defense to cover 1 man. and good luck trying to catch him when he gets the ball.

By Darrin "The Vent King"

December 13, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

This is THE dumbest thing I ever heard of. Leave it to a franchise like Atlanta to even toy with a moronic idea like this. Do you realize the defenders may actually start to pass out getting overly excited with the chance to pound Vick at that position? The same Vick who has suffered numerous injuries at quarterback is now being considered at THE most physically demanding position in the NFL? I swear I will burn every freaking Falcon’s jersey I own if they do this and Vick gets hurt. This will go down as THE dumbest thing ANY franchise has ever done in any sport. It would take the Falcons to even entertain an idea like this. Hopefully it’s a smokescreen just to keep the Cowgirls thinking. Even if it’s a gimmick play they plan on running I want to ask this- how is a team who can’t even get the basic things done keep trying to get cute? Rcvrs can’t catch, lineman can’t block, but HEY! Let’s run a triple reverse lob in the endzone on 4th and inches! Knapp better send his resume to Stanford quick, because if the Stanford people get a whiff of how dumb he can be trying to pull something like putting Vick at runningback they may not want him anymore. And for all the people making light of this because they WANT to see Vick hurt, turn in your Falcon card ‘cause you are morons and are no longer considered “fans” of this team as far as I’m concerned. To even talk about this is making my head hurt and I will NEVER follow the Falcons again if they do this stupid @#$%!!

GO FALCONS!!

(and leave Vick at QB dumba**!!!)

By Bill

December 13, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

Starting Schaub, a real NFL style QB, and using Vick as a running back or receiver, is of course the smart way to go. But it’ll never happen: Vick’s ego couldn’t take it.

By dan

December 13, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

Bubba, the fact that you don’t even wish to include receivers and coaching into vick’s problems is beyond ignorance. Without receivers running good routes and getting separation or even catching the ball when it hits them in the stomach, how can Vick look good in the stat book? Why do you even obsess yourself with these mindless stats? And how can you not blame coaching???? Knapp’s play-calling is more predictable than a soap opera and he wont even let vick audible! Any other coach would be able to fit his system to vick’s talent and make a winning team (see Reeves). Just face it, you deliberately hate Vick for reasons other than what he does on the football field. Which is perfectly fine with me. I could care less. But don’t tell me receivers and coaching aren’t a problem. That’s just plain stupid.

By Yo Daddy

December 13, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

Move Vick to RB, and start Shockley. Leave Schaub on the bench for a capable backup. Go Dawgs.

By dirrtybird

December 13, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

The Question is: Is Knapp stupid enough to still run this trick play now that it’s all over the media?

My guess: He’ll run it several times throughout the game with little to no success, but still stick with it.

Adjustment? What’s that?

By Lynne

December 13, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

I cant believe you wrote this Steve Wyche, was there really no credible questions to ask the public? Like why the hell the Falcons signed this Anderson guy (another ex 49er) when Lee Suggs was available? Suggs who had more experience and better running stats? Naw, instead this dumb, not happening question. Do we really need to have Matt Schaub’s momma crying and praying to the Lord Almighty to NOT have her son line up and get creamed before he can get outta here? Its bad enough that Mike Vick’s momma has to sit with her finger on the speed dial to her pastor every Sunday…and he runs a 4.3/40!

By tim

December 13, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

Mora and Vick are using their brains.I know and you know Vick will never get in the backfield to be a tailback.This is a strategy to get the Cowboys out of the game plan.I bet any money that both of our backs will play sometime doing the game.The Falcons have the players to beat Dallas.Im not worried about the Falcons,it’s Knapp play calling that scares me.Go Falcons!

By UVA Fan

December 13, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this

When Schaub was at UVA, him and Phillip Rivers were neck and neck for best QB in the ACC. There were a lot of comparisons made between the two. Schaub will be a 1st string QB for someone. However, regretfully it probably won’t be ATL. I think he is a free agent and I think someone will pick him up as a possible starter.

By Jonny

December 13, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this

Vick doesn’t take glancing blows very well at QB when he runs out of bounds, how’s he going to take direct hits at RB? If Vick were to play any other position, I would put him at WR. He would be particularly good on short outside routes with his quickness. The drawback is that he is a poor ball carrier.

But Vick at RB? Wow.

By Big M.V. Fan

December 13, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

Man are you kidding me? We have the most dynamic player ever to play the quarterback position .Earlier we falcons fans have seen vick get hurt easily early in his career. Are we forgetting this guy is our franchise. Man if we lose vick we will be out the playoff picture for sure! Try D.J. out at running back.

By peter

December 13, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

Physical build is the first reason about Vick not being a running back……..he is more a recievers build.

Picking up a blitz from a crazed linebacker……HA HA HA…..I see Vick ducking on that one…….back of his mind he is probably thinking, “I should be the one throwing, not blocking!”

Come on all…… the backs are trained to do a professional job, and that includes a ton of small stuff, a QB may know all that stuff, but it won’t be second nature……this league is too fast for indecision.

Vick would have to re-tool so to speak, to become a back……learn new stuff, and most definitly bulk up some.

A pass to Vick in the flats and see him run……. sounds good to me.

Pass to him…… and he passes to another reciever, that sounds good as well……..but will anyone catch the ball, may be the next question!

Hey the Falcons were fun because we won in Tampa Bay, and I enjoyed carrying on there, and teasing the Tampa Bay fans…..winning three of the next four, well we can all pray….but honestly I don’t think Vick will be lining up and hitting the hole up the gut from a hand off any time soon!

Time for the defense to take over……that is how championships are won!

By Techster

December 13, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

Regardless of who the quarterback is, we need a big play wide receiver for Vick, Schaub or whoever. These guys are not even average. The Falcons need to do what they need to do come draft time to trade up and land the next great NFL receiver in hometown Heisman Calvin Johnson! Could you imagine what could happen if Vick had CJ to throw to? I’m not stupid, this would be nearly impossible but still something to think (and dream) about. Win Falcons!!!

By Wow, impressive

December 13, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Vent King how many have you had published? I’ve had an even dozen, but haven’t really vented much lately.

By Joey

December 13, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this

Schaub gives us the best chance to win now. Vick is not a quaterback. Period. No ammount of press coverage, praise from tv networks, or Vick demonstrating his sign language skills can change that. And Moore, please don’t say that it is because he is black. I would trade the offensive line for Randal Cunningham or even Vince Young. Vick is over hyped, over paid, and over praised. We win games in spite of him. We have a stellar defense that gets more and more injury prone when Vick can’t find a reciever open named Alge and than go 3 and out on consecutive series. With Schaub, or even Shockley there is a better chance than Vick. It is like he is affraid of making a throw over 15 yards. His accuracy is poor and his judgement is iffy at best. PLEASE PLAY SCHAUB!!! Imagine a guy named Romo beating us at home… For shame.

By Phooey

December 13, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this

WHO CARES?

By bubba

December 13, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

Dan, put the Falcon Kool-aid down. You brought in the “great Bill Musgrave” this year remember? He’s like the 3rd QB/OFF.coach to be a scapegoat for Vick. You brought in former # 1 Ashlie Lelee and now all the sudden he is to blame. Every year for 6 years it’s somebody elses fault but Vick. Schaub comes in last year against the Patriots and throws for 300 yds. and 3 TD’s with the same coaches and WR’s. Vick has two good games this year and everyone is happy. Were these different coaches and receivers for these games? NO! Vick is INCONSISTENT. Deal with it.

By CDRush

December 13, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

I,ve said this since the era began…put the franchise in the slot and Matt S. @ QB and win the division again, beside we all know if any of the two go down we have an outstanding back-up in DJ. Anyone willing to bet the house let me know…With or w/o Atl. Matt S. WILL WIN A SUPERBOWL before Mike Franchise.

By Boots

December 13, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

Duh! What have they got to lose? Something has to happen to put a spark into this team. The offensive production has been nothing short of pathetic! My guess is that the Cowboys, coming off of that embarrassing loss to New Orleans, will be loaded for bear. We’d better try something creative, or they’ll hand us our a*******es!

By mike r.

December 13, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

as we all know, vick SUCKS! he’s overrated, and at least this way the falcons can get something in return for all that money he got that he doesnt deserve. I dont care how many people loves him, he still sucks. pulling for vick is like those dumb mothers in california that still believe michael jackson is innocent.

By No-Kidding

December 13, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

Never happen at Running Back. “But Vick would be absolutely Great At Wide Receiver (as Hines Ward has been). As confusion to defenses, I would like to see D.J. Shockley and Mike Vick line up in the Shotgun side by side, with either having opportunity to get the snap from center and the option to pass or run, or to handoff to the other with the option to pass or run. Vick’s problem with passing is that he is not extremely accurate, lacks soft touch on the ball, and then when he throws a good ball it is often like a “Bullet” and difficult to catch. Again, I think he would be terrific a Wide Receiver. His speed and moves in the open field from the receiver position would be something to “see”!

By BirdBob

December 13, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

No, putting Vick at RB would be an insult and would be blatant racism.

You would never see, or even have suggested putting Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton, John Elway, or other QBs who could run and/or scramble at RB.

Vick is the franchise, and we can’t risk an injury to him because he was at RB.

By CDRush

December 13, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

AMEN!!!!!! mike r.

By Boots

December 13, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

Bubba: You’re points are well taken, if not entirely accurate. I, too, have grown weary of excuses for Vick’s lack of leadership and the offense’s embarrassingly low production! Every team has to play the hand they’re dealt and the complaints and excuses for Vick are not gonna be accepted too much longer. * I get the notion that we’re pulling on a duck’s neck, trying to make a swan as far as Vick being an effective quarterback is concerned!*

By Steve T

December 13, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

Vick can not be a RB or WR. He does not have the skill set. RB is not as easy as you think.

He does not have the skill set to be a WR. You can not turn into a WR over night. You have to run your pattern just right. There is a lot of skills it take to be a good WR.

I do not think he can take the pounding at WR or RB. You saw what happened to our other RBs. Can Vick block.

On another note, Matt would be in trouble against Dallas. Manning has trouble against a 3-4 because they can get hits on him. Matt will be under the same rush from dallas, and our WRs are scared to catch. You know Dallas will bring it.

By People please

December 13, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick has passed like a mofo this season and others. And in others he has sucked. But Knapp and his receivers suck the most and deserve most of the blame. Vick is a good QB. Moving him to rb would be dumb.

By McDonoughDawg

December 13, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this

I heard Vick will be playing nose guard and Grady “hey hey hey” Jackson will be playing QB. That makes about as much sense.

By Stuck in '79

December 13, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this

The whole Falcons defense is going to have problems on Sunday with Randy White, Too Tall Jones and Hollywood Henderson. Hope Bart can get the ball away quick deep to Jenkins.

By Ed F

December 13, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

I am completely behind putting Vick in as An Athelete. He is no QB. Schaub is a west coast QB. That is what Virginia ran. All my friends have said for years Vick is no QB. He is too short and his leggs are waisted. The Falcons might be undefeated without injuries and Vick as an Athelete and Schaub the QB. I have read all the comments thinking this is a joke or mistake. How can any one know since it has never been tried. Hines Ward was a college QB. As an athelete in the pro’s he became twice the player he was in college. Too bad we will probably never use Vick to his Highest Potential.

By pdawg

December 13, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

genius 3….i dont want to say it..no i wont say it…what the ….U R A FOOL

By bobby

December 13, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

Vick at RB! Do you really think that Vick could take those hits? His body has been condition to be a QB. You think and other QB can take the hits that a true RB take on a consistant basis? This is just plain stupid. Make him a RB if you want him to be out of the league starting with the first game he plays RB as a starter

By midniterider

December 13, 2006 08:11 PM | Link to this

all you people will see what kind of qb we had when matt is gone all he needs is to play he is smarter bigger and a real qb and can run too when need be sad the falcons cant see the best players they have as always oh he can also throw the ball much better as well. The falcons might win one more game but it wont be sat

By Kevin

December 13, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

This could actually be a good blog topic if more of the people responding actually knew something about football. Vick is not a running back. Speed does not translate solely into a good running back. His rushing gains now work from the QB postion but wouldn’t fare the same success from the RB position. Several of you have mentioned the durability factor which is valid. Vick would be lucky to make it through one NFL game as a RB carrying the ball 20 or more times.

Bottom line is it doesn’t matter who is put in the QB position if the Falcons don’t improve their wide reciever play and continue to make improvements in The Falcons need a “real” wide receiver tandom. Receivers that can create separation. Our receivers don’t do that on a regular basis. A team should realize you’re having problems in the passing game when you tight end is consistentyly your leading receiver. Does that seem strange to anyone but me. When are we going to commit to hiring some receivers who can perform consistently in the clutch and give Vick a couple of options he can depend on when it’s 3rd down. Crumpler is the main option now. That won’t make it in the playoffs. Defensive coordinators will shut that down the TE option and focus on the run. Leaving our WR to step up regularly to win the game. That hasn’t happened consistently.

Give Vick the weapons that prove successful for teams that are offensive threats. If he can’t get it done with some weapons, then find the team another QB.

By Ron

December 13, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

C’mon, Vick can’t even be a QB, now he is going to be a RB? Whoever thinks that putting Vick at RB is racist is an idiot. If Vick could throw decent passes, NO ONE would say anything about moving him anywhere. Vick may be the franchise, but it’s not much of one at this point so why not give anything a shot.

By STEALTHMAN

December 13, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

VICK AT RUNNING BACK??, This would have been a good ellement of suprise, but Mora has now signed Vicks death warrant. The Cowboys will be looking to really kill him now. Many on this Blog forget that Vick has an arm, and can really sling one 60 to 70 yards down field, if someone catches the ball. Also ,if the coaches will let Vick be Vick and direct the Offense around him,- as John Gruden said “he” would, We may have a few Vince Lambuardi’s in Atlanta. I really do hope the receivers are practicing catches this week. This league is full of surprises, regardless of anyones record. The Cowboys lost big time to the Saints, Yes I know the Saints are serious, but they do have weak spots as all teams do. Why would they inform the public that Vick may be a running back? Don’t tell all your business guys. Use this move as a Secret weapon.007And I do mean number—7**.

By LAW

December 13, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

I think that Mora has felt that he should move Vick to the backfiel or even out of ATL all together. But his hands are tied because for the sake of political correctness Atl must have a black QB. Shaub is smarter than Vick and can move the offense more effectively than Vick. Vick taakes one look, if he can not see his receiver he runs. Anyone can do that and call themself a QB, I dont think Vick has the mental capacity to carry the team to the playoffs less long the Super Bowl. The greatest mistake in ATL history was trading Bret Favre (GREAT QB-HE IS VERY SMART), thanks Jerry Glanvil. Dan Reeves was a VICKtom. Trade Vick and get on with Football and lets win consistant for a change!!!!!!!!!

By SC DAWG

December 13, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

I have a scenario for Falcon’s fans. Let say Mora puts Vick at running back and Schuab at QB. Lets also say Vick runs for 100 plus yards Saturday night and Schaub throws for say 250 to 300 yards and 3 TD’s which means our receivers catch everything in sight. What happens the next game when the running backs are ready to play? Let also say Vick goes back to QB (and you know he will) and he absolutly stinks and the falcons lose the game. What would Mora do then especially if the Falcons have to win the last game to make the playoffs?

By Ron

December 13, 2006 08:36 PM | Link to this

Vick is the best, I love him..

By Ed F

December 13, 2006 08:40 PM | Link to this

Vick is the man, he’s the man, he’s number one. Yeah baby!! Superbowl, Superbowl…#1….

By SC

December 13, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this

Hey, how about Shockley as QB, Vick as RB, and Shaub as WR? Shaub could be the replacement for Brian Finneran. We could try to get all of our quarterbacks injured in one play. Seriously, except for special teams, hasn’t the offense been largely unsuccessful when they call ‘trick’ plays? They should practice screen passes instead.

So Steve, is it true that Rod Coleman is close to recovery from his turf toe? That pass rush is going to be important. And what is the team report card on Jimmy Williams? I’d love to see what he could do on a safety blitz…

By VRON

December 13, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

Atlanta FANS are NUTS!!! When did Matt Shaub become Tom Brady??? Some of these kooks are ready to enshrine him in the HALL OF FAME!!! If he was so good, he wouldnt be a back-up and someone would have given a draft pick or two to have him...For the record, Mike Vick should leave this town...and make some other team better, Atlanta doesnt value their sports stars and obviously the sports writers dont either! He has made this franchise with little help, and gets no credit…Mike, please leave so Atlanta can see what we have then….oh yea…Shaub will get us to the SuperBowl!

By Brian

December 13, 2006 08:47 PM | Link to this

By LAW

December 13, 2006 08:19 PM I think that Mora has felt that he should move Vick to the backfiel or even out of ATL all together

Vick has won at a 64% clip in the league. You idiots dont realize that he has no protection and no wide outs. He is the best QB we have had in a long time, and don’t give me the who;e MATT SHAUB argument he has not even won while Vick was hurt. Remember DOUG JOHNSON The 2003 three season turned out great Vick got hurt and everyone got what they wanted DOUG JOHNSON between Doug and that other loser they went 3 and 11 while Vick came back to win the last two games.

He wins games, without vick this team sucks NO PROTECTION and NO WIDE OUTS enough said.

By Brian

December 13, 2006 08:51 PM | Link to this

BY:SC

December 13, 2006 08:42 PM | Hey, how about Shockley as QB, Vick as RB, and Shaub as WR?

DAMN GEORGIA FANS Yeah lets put a guy that runs a 5.0 at wide out that will work. And Lets Draft JOE T to play QB next year. Hey, he can even play WR remember the Florida game.

By The Real...

December 13, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

The real problem with the Falcons is that Vick’s talents are being managed by guys who have no idea how to coach this much talent. The ultimate weapon comes into the league, shows signs of greatness and is given to Jim Mora and Greg Knapp to mold? This wasn’t a good or smart decision from day one. The playcalling stinks and they have not yet addressed the QB protection situation…and that’s just the beginning. Not one Pro Bowl lineman in 6 years and we’ve had the top rushing for the majority of those years. That speaks volumes when the players and coaches make up 2/3 of the Pro Bowl selection committee. Even if you consider some fans to be homers, why wouldn’t other players and coaches vote our O-Line into the Pro Bowl?

And it’s not just Vick. Which players have gotten better under their watch? In which phases of the game have we consistently gotten better since they’ve been here? Our biggest improvements always comes from free agent pickups. Get some guys in here that can develop talent and then we can talk.

By ja

December 13, 2006 08:54 PM | Link to this

Vick as a running back is plain stupid. What they should be looking at is getting the ball to Crumpler because the Dallas safeties do not match up well with him. Griffith is going to be fine in the backfield.

By LAW

December 13, 2006 08:54 PM | Link to this

Let’s keep Vick safe guys, not running back, he’s the Franchise Player. He’s the best QB in the league.

By dirtie birdie

December 13, 2006 09:07 PM | Link to this

what a bunch of idiots you all are!!! this is never going to happen and it should not happen. ESPN and Linda Cohn must be right about the ATL: this is looking more and more like the worst professional sports town in America. A bunch of morons. 38-25-1, 2 playoff victories, and a conference championship game appearance. show a little bit of appreciation. just a little bit. can’t sell out playoff games for the braves. how come you all are so supportive of mark richt but he only has .500 record against ranked teams during his 6 years here but then are so hateful against Vick? If Coach Richt had played only top 25 teams like Vick has to play top 32 teams every week, the record for the dawgs after 64 games under Richt would be 32-32 unlike Vick’s current 38-25-1. AND I am a big supporter of CMR and I do not think CMR should be fired or anything like that. show some appreciation already. the falcons have never had a 64 game run like vick has provided us as a starter. no one in the country even know the falcons ever existed except for 1998. otherwise the falcons have always been forgotten except for when people need a good cheap lazy joke and laugh. vick has changed that. we are always in playoff contention but you all do not seem to be able to appreciate that. you all do not deserve mike vick. hell, is there any player the fans in this town have ever appreciated and were not happy to see leave town?

By dirtie birdie

December 13, 2006 09:12 PM | Link to this

LAW:

don’t be a fool. vick is a good QB. i love the guy more than just about anyone except for I think BirdDawg, DirtyByrd, and Najeh. BUT Vick is not the best QB. he is very good but not the best. you sound silly when you say things like that and you lose all credibility with that kind of statement. just because we have a bunch of morons on here who think he sucks, does not mean you go in the total opposite direction and say he is the best because Vick is far from the best right now. He has the potential to be the best and he has done great things as a QB. BUT the best? come on now. be reasonable and intellectually honest when you argue with all of these fools.

By dirtie birdie

December 13, 2006 09:40 PM | Link to this

Vick Truly is the best QB in the league, I was joking earlier. I’m so sorry. He’s the best, the best, *The Best * Rah, Rah….#1, #1…

By SC

December 13, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

Brian, that was intended as a -reductio ad absurdum-.

By dirtie birdie

December 13, 2006 09:48 PM | Link to this

Is the NFL supposed to be a good league? Listening to the way alot of you morons think, I am really starting to believe that maybe the NFL really is not a good league. It must be really easy to win games, right? From what you have all been telling me, the Falcons have somehow been able to play with a glorified RB at QB and somehow have still been good enough to go 38-25-1 in the games he has started at QB. WOW!!! The NFL must be in worse shape than I thought. Hell the Falcons even won 2 playoff games with that glorified RB at QB. Man the NFL sucks! They even won a playoff game in Lambeau Field against one of the top 10 QBs of all time in the 18th game that glorified RB ever started as a first year starting QB in the NFL. Why isn’t the demise of the NFL being more widely reported? Then in his second year as a starter, he went 11-5 and went to the conference championship game. My lord. What has happened to the NFL? How could a glorified RB ever line up at QB and accomplish these things? How could that ever happen? Man, the NFL sucks. I thought the NFL was a good league. I realize now that I am sadly mistaken.

I am going to call the Chargers and the Chiefs tonight. I am going to tell the Chargers and Chiefs that they have been doing it all wrong all these years. the problem with the Chiefs and the Chargers is that they have been lining up Larry Johnson and Tomlinson up at RB. What a bunch of idiots! I am going to correct that though. I am going to inform them that the problem with their teams is that they have a glorified QB being misplayed at RB. When they try to argue with me, I will tell them how smart all of you vick haters are and how all of you have figured out how easy it is to be a winner in the NFL. I will them how resistant I have been to listen to all of you and how much I regret it. I will tell them to just go trade Philip Rivers and Trent Green. They do not need those guys. They just need to go take Johnson & Tomlinson and line them up at QB. Imagine how much the chargers and chiefs will win then. When they tell me that there is no way Johnson and Tomlinson are going to be able to pass enough to be a QB, I will them nonsense. I will tell them that all of the vick haters say that you do not need to be able to pass in order to go 38-25-1 in the NFL - being a glorified RB apparently is good enough for all of you.

Then I will call Tom Coughlin. I will tell him that if you want to make the playoffs, bench Eli and start Tiki at Qb and Jacobs at RB.

Why shouldn’t I do that? You all have made me realize that any good running back can line up at QB in the NFL and go 38-25-1, go to the playoffs twice, win 2 playoff games, and go to the conference championship game.

Imagine how much poor Barry Sanders would have won with the Lions if the Lions had used your logic and just lined Barry up at QB because hell any great runner with no passing skills and no ability to read defenses and no leadership skills and who is as dumb as they come and who is a thug can line up at QB and go 38-25-1, right?

That is the funny thing about all of the vick haters. You all say that Vick should go to RB or WR. That is how dumb you all are. You all have stumbled into a great innovative invention and none of you yet realize it: just line up every running back at QB and you will go 38-25-1. Instead, you all are so stupid you want to take the glorified RB and actually move him back to running back. That is how dub your argument is. YOu instead should be reinventing the way we all think about the game a la Bill James and telling everyone to stop overpaying QBs, just label them running backs, have 3 or 4 good RBs on your team and line them up at QB, RB, WR and watch how much you will win. IDIOTS!

OR maybe Vick is not that bad of a QB. maybe he is a better passer than you all say. maybe he is not as dumb as you all say. maybe he can read defenses better than you all say.

BUT if you all want to keep telling me that the NFL has become so bad that any team can go 38-25-1 simply by lining up a great RB who is dumb as a rock, can’t read defenses and who has no discernable passing skills, then go right ahead.

According to all of your warped logic, does that mean that the Falcons would have won the Super Bowl in 1998 by benching Chandler and by lining up a great RB like Jamal Anderson at QB? maybe not. BUT if Reeves was smart, he would have lined Jamal up at QB in 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001. Maybe instead of the crappy record we had during those years, we would have gone 38-25-1, right?

By Georgia

December 13, 2006 09:51 PM | Link to this

Georgia is the last remnants of the Confederacy. The national media says it all. It’s only in Georgia where they try to discredit the QB who is black. But look, there’s two black starting quarterbacks in the National Championship game in college; a sign of the inevitable. Get used to it.

By COWBOYS WIN

December 13, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

I see way yall have the dead last in testing. From this blog gald I dont stay loserville ATL. You guys act like you have won a superbowl or superbowls.Let me remind you what happen in Houston( We dont need VY he is not smart enough, we already have a QB name Carr and with do time he would be a winner) HA HA HA. Truth is their are only about 8 good QB that win and yall want to put yours at RB what a dumb a* city. The only reason yall are on the map is because MV and yall not happy OH I forgot this is the same state that fight over a racist flag. To put it in a nut shell ( get it test scores )Yall have Mr. SportsCenter that is shown around the world and people over seas wear MV jersey and you want to put in a back up QB HA HA YAll FOOLS. Who is this Shaub guy???? If this guy is so good how many games he won??? how many TD he have??? He must be the league best kept golden boy. Plus trade MV and see your attendence drop and franchise lose money. Better yet send him to da Browns and watch a real sports city laugh at YAll FOOLS. P.S. stay off the path SUPERBOWL HERE WE COME

By TR

December 13, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

Bird BOB… HOW ABOUT THIS..BILL CAMPBELL-COACH.. SHIRLEY FRANKLIN-CHEERLEADER.. VICK-Waterboy..BLANK-BUY A WINNER!!!!

By John from Dunwoody

December 13, 2006 09:57 PM | Link to this

I THOUGHT MICHAEL VICK ALREADY WAS A RB. SERIOUSLY THOUGH, HE SUCKS AS QB, HE WOULD LIKELY SUCK AT RB AS WELL. PERHAPS VICK WOULD BE BEST SERVED AS A PINCH RUNNER FOR THE BRAVES.

By will

December 13, 2006 10:00 PM | Link to this

put vick at reciever, the white boy at qb, and shockley at running back, the way it should be to win games, guys athletically inclined sitting on the bench is insane, ludicrous, making all that money to do nothing, i can’t believe the coaches would do some bull like that, esp. if their job is on line

By MG

December 13, 2006 10:18 PM | Link to this

I’ve been a Raider fan since I was 7 and I’m 45 now.(you do the math)Raiders suck this year but I still love the team. Falcons did not have sellouts until Vick got here.Right now he is the team.Falcons just signed Jamal Robertson.A former player for the 49’s and the Panthers. Maybe this will help. I still wonder why they let Duckett go.To bad for the Receivers they don’t allow “Stickum” anymore.

By Bubba

December 13, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

Hey John from DUMMMWOODY9:57PM BLOG, thanks for telling us where you are from. We REALLY needed to know that… GO Vick, GO BABY, Let’s not worry about all of these wannabe football loosers. That is why they are hating so much,, You guys know Vick is talented, so calm down and take a Zantac… O.K., Let’s be happy!!! Life is too short.. Superbowl!!! SUPERBOWL!!!!

By Dallas, GA Blank Fan

December 13, 2006 11:06 PM | Link to this

Reasons the Falcons are awesome:

Arthur Blank asks the players what they want most, their reply Fans in the seats!!! AND HE DID IT!!!!

Vick, a cannon arm, 500HP legs and the will to push his body on any given day to the limits to won a game.

Come on lets look on the flip side of this the Time Warner Braves do nothing to get fan’s in the seats. Blank offers $1 seats to get us there and Time Warner raises prices on tickets.

Owner, Players are awesome we have a championship team no doubt! Coaching stakk is yet to be determined. It is our time to win and it may be a great time to put a couple 100 bucks on the Falcons to win the ‘08 superbowl!

Oh and did I mention we have Shockley too! Awesome, the true player! Heart of a champ!

By Mrs Vick

December 13, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

People need to leave Michael Vick alone, you can’t expect him to throw the ball, run the ball, and then catch the ball. The receivers are dropping too many balls, he’s getting no protection. Come on people, give the guy a break. He wants to take this team to super bowl as much as we want to. He’s the best in the league. For all the people bashing Michael Vick, please take your energy on the receivers. Any normal person can see that’s where the problem is. I have my fingers crossed, Saturday will be a VICKtory for the Falcons.

By TR

December 13, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this

HEY WILL.. White “BOY” at qb.. check his health record.. he’s not spreading that filth around..

By dirtie birdie

December 13, 2006 11:59 PM | Link to this

hey TR: you said this: HEY WILL.. White “BOY” at qb.. check his health record.. he’s not spreading that filth around.. how do you know that for sure? there is only one way you would know that for sure about both vick and schaub. what exactly are you trying to tell us about your sexual relationship with both of these man?

By Vick

December 14, 2006 12:03 AM | Link to this

Put DJ Shockley at Runningback Problem Solved.

By Constance Lynn

December 14, 2006 12:04 AM | Link to this

BirdBob, are you out of your mind? Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton, John Elway were superstars at the QB position. Vick is a proven jouneyman at best. Rascism???

By dirtie birdie

December 14, 2006 12:09 AM | Link to this

constance: get a clue. yourneymen do not go 38-25-1, win 2 playoff games in 2 different years, and got to the conference championship game

By common sense

December 14, 2006 01:02 AM | Link to this

By putting this man in a running situation so much, you not only put him at risk, but your franchise also. Am I wrong or not.. but isn’t he the “face of the franchise”? Putting or letting him go all out running situations will be suicidal…via the franchise, the fan base and possibly his career. What did you actually draft him for?

By Cap

December 14, 2006 01:06 AM | Link to this

I think in light of whatz going down in Philadelphia with Iverson, I think the Vick haters may want to shut the F@#% up. If Vick got put in at running back he could demand a trade and every NFL GM, player, and fan would know he is well within his rights, of course outside of the half of all ATLiens that want him gone anyway. Outside of Iverson, has their ever been an athlete to give so much to one undeserving franchise to receive so little support from his front office? You actually have people that are begging for him to be shipped out of town? He’s a perennial Pro Bowl QB!!! Who the heck do you haters think want to take his place?!? Do you think Brady, Manning, Palmer, etc. want to come play for the Falcons after Vick gets lined up playing running back?!? Do you really want to watch Schaub play behind that line with no backs and receivers that can’t catch must less watch that scenario unfold at the price of an $80+ ticket?

By common sense

December 14, 2006 01:20 AM | Link to this

Thanks Cap,

I’m not even a Falcon fan, but I know b*s/ talk when I see it. You hit it right on the head dealing with some of the crazy comments.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 01:23 AM | Link to this

Dirtie Birdie, thank you for mentioning Barry Sanders. He was the most electrifying player of his generation. I have to evoke his name at least once a week to the Vick haters. The Lions refused to put anything stable around Sanders his entire career. Ever. So as a number one pick, he took the Lions from awful to mediocre. When he left the team, the Lions did not clear up cap space and reload. They just have since been the absolute worst franchise in the league. Michael Vick is the most electrifying player of his generation. Vick has taken the Falcons from awful to regular playoff contenders. If he does not get killed behind this O-line, he will walk away from the game with all the QB rushing records, rank alongside many hall of fame running backs, and still have passing numbers that will be in the 20,000+ range and good enough to get in the hall of fame. Should Vick depart from the Falcons before his due time, the Falcons are not going to clear up cap space and reload. They will become the next Detroit Lions. Drafting QBs and WRs high in the first round every year, none of them (except Roy Williams) ever even becoming serviceable. What happened to Joey Harrington, Carlos Rogers, Mike Williams? Bust, bust, bust. Why? Because the Detroit Lions has always been a p** poor franchise that only became mildly respectable when Barry Sanders was there. Atlanta has only become mildly respectable since Vick has been here. So if Vick gets shipped off in his prime, you will not have to worry about me taking space up on your blogs because I ain’t hanging around to watch Schaub become the next Jon Kitna, or Jeff Garcia, or Mike McMahon, or whoever else Detroit thinks they can plug in at QB because a bunch of hillbillies and uncle toms were dissatisfied that the greatest player in the league couldn’t take this rickety jalopy of a franchise to the SUPER BOWL?!?

By falconfan

December 14, 2006 01:27 AM | Link to this

Putting Vick in at running back would be stupid. Not because he’s a good quarterback though, but because he would just fumble the ball over and over. People look at his stats. They’re terrible, and at the very least, he’s certainly not deserving of his 100mil plus contract. It’s not really that complicated, Vick is a good athlete and a bad quarterback, no matter how much we would all like to believe otherwise. And please, stop pointing at his overall record when justifying his poor performances. Vick was 6-13-1 against teams with winning records prior to the start of the season. That figure’s gotten worse this year as the only team with a winning record that I can recall us beating was Cincinnati. Oh and guess what, the playoffs will be full of teams with winning records. I hope I’m wrong about Vick, but how many years and excuses will come and go before we finally have to admit that we’ve got a reincarnated Cordele Stewart behind the center.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 01:32 AM | Link to this

I mean, what do you haters think the Falcons are going to do? Get rid of Vick but draft Tim Tebow in a couple of years? That’s not starting from square one? No one is going to trade a top flight WR for Vick. Atlanta is not going to get Chad Johnson or Marvin Harrison because of course those teams don’t need QBs. And somebody without a good QB like Carolina is not going to trade their franchise receiver like Steve Smith for Vick, because when Vick gets there who would he throw to? So the only way to get a top flight receiver for Schaub would be out of the draft. To get a top flight receiver you need to draft high. To draft high you have to suck. When Vick was hurt the Falcons sucked enough to draft D-Hall. But if the Falcons don’t have Vick they may very well continue to suck even after they draft a top flight receiver, or two, or three just like the Detroit Lions.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 01:47 AM | Link to this

Well Falcon Fan, I’m not quite sure why every one always evokes the name of Kordell Stewart when talking about the “bad” QB Vick will become. If you have been watching football since Stewart was drafted in the second round in ‘95, as QB he took the Steelers to two AFC Championship games with the Steelers losing both times to the eventual Super Bowl Champions. Stewart’s only downfall was rather than develop him as a QB the Steelers dicked around for two years with a Super Bowl caliber team having him catch passes from and be the red zone QB for Neil O’Donnell and Mike Tomczak. Then with a championship caliber team they benched him in favor of Kent Graham and of course did not return back to the AFC Championship game until Stewart was put back in at QB. When Stewart was benched in favor of Tommy Maddox they went back to sucking, so bad that they were able to draft Roethlisberger with the seventh pick. How is any of this Kordell Stewart’s fault? The Steelers were good when he was the QB, bad when he wasn’t. And you say Vick was 6-13-1 against teams with winning records? So you acknowledge that Vick is going at it alone?

By e.b.

December 14, 2006 02:06 AM | Link to this

anyone that says Vick is a glorified Running Back, should be shot in the head. This kid has been bred to be QB, he has the mindset of a QB, and to change him now would do irreparable damage. When he runs, he doesn’t run like a running back. He picks he spots. he can’t move a line like a RB can. This is idiotic, and desperate at best.

By falconfan

December 14, 2006 02:07 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the history lesson on Kordell Stewart. But since your failed to address anything in my post concerning Vick I’ll just respond to your last question. Football is a team sport so no Vick was/is not going at it alone. Likewise, the blame for those losses should be spread across the team. With that being said, however, Vick is (or at least should be) the leader of the team. And when you add up his poor history of performance statistically, especially against good teams, with the fact that he only wins against good teams a little over 30% of the time, I think that makes a reasonable argument that Vick is not the man for the job. I didn’t notice you pointing out that Vick is not the only player on the team to all the posters above commenting on his overall winning percentage. As far as Vick not having players around him, that’s debatable. Peerless Price was fantastic before he got to Atlanta and has been fantastic since he left. Lelie was also quite good in Denver and hasn’t come around yet. At some point you have to look for a common denominator. Of course, that doesn’t even consider our success running the ball, which for every other team in the league opens up the pass. Maybe it’s the quarterback, maybe it’s a lack of players, maybe it’s the coaching. I guess that’s the spirit of debate.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 03:16 AM | Link to this

Glad you liked the history lesson on Kordell Stewart. Heed it. Falcons fan, buddy, bro, “As far as Vick not having players around him, that’s debatable.” Did you just say “debatable”? “Debatable”?!? The Falcons are the worst drafting team in the NFL over the past 20 years. Even the Cardinals made some good picks, they were just good players for other teams. Then again, so was Deion Sanders. Outside of him, Bob Whitfield, Keith Brooking, and Patrick Kerney (as well as of course Vick) are the only proof that anybody working for the Falcons front office has ever even been awake during the first round of any draft. Like I said, outside of Whitfield and Chuck Smith in ‘92 and then Vick and Crumpler in ‘01, the Falcons are utterly incapable of drafting two decent players in successive rounds. No wonder the Falcons have never had back to back winning seasons!!! And sure, the Falcons have signed Ashley Lelie, because they drafted T.J. Duckett the pick before him instead of drafting Lelie outright and acclimating him to the Falcons system. And sure the Falcons signed Warrick Dunn, that’s because in ‘97 Dunn was picked number 12 in the first round. Atlanta picked number 11th. The Falcons picked Michael Booker. By the way, Tony Gonzalez went 13th and Peyton Manning’s bodyguard Tarik Glenn went 19th. The only serviceable moves the Falcons have made for two decades was to draft Vick and attempt to atone for past sins via free agency.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 03:17 AM | Link to this

Glad you liked the history lesson on Kordell Stewart. Heed it. Falcons fan, buddy, bro, “As far as Vick not having players around him, that’s debatable.” Did you just say “debatable”? “Debatable”?!? The Falcons are the worst drafting team in the NFL over the past 20 years. Even the Cardinals made some good picks, they were just good players for other teams. Then again, so was Deion Sanders. Outside of him, Bob Whitfield, Keith Brooking, and Patrick Kerney (as well as of course Vick) are the only proof that anybody working for the Falcons front office has ever even been awake during the first round of any draft. Like I said, outside of Whitfield and Chuck Smith in ‘92 and then Vick and Crumpler in ‘01, the Falcons are utterly incapable of drafting two decent players in successive rounds. No wonder the Falcons have never had back to back winning seasons!!! And sure, the Falcons have signed Ashley Lelie, because they drafted T.J. Duckett the pick before him instead of drafting Lelie outright and acclimating him to the Falcons system. And sure the Falcons signed Warrick Dunn, that’s because in ‘97 Dunn was picked number 12 in the first round. Atlanta picked number 11th. The Falcons picked Michael Booker. By the way, Tony Gonzalez went 13th and Peyton Manning’s bodyguard Tarik Glenn went 19th. The only serviceable moves the Falcons have made for two decades was to draft Vick and attempt to atone for past sins via free agency.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 03:29 AM | Link to this

And “Peerless Price” and “fantastic” do not belong in the same sentence. Price was a serviceable second receiver to Eric Moulds in Buffalo and the Falcons could have easily drafted him in the second round instead of Reggie Kelly. He came here to be an overpriced number 1 receiver, failed miserably, and has bounced around to Dallas and Buffalo as now a fourth or fifth option. Vick has in no way, shape, or form hindered his ‘supporting’ cast. Atlanta’s front office just cannot draft. Vick was by far and away the best player in the ‘01 draft and whoever had the number one pick was going to take him. Fortunately he didn’t require the Falcons to make any type of talent evaluation. If it did the falcons would have screwed that up too.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 03:30 AM | Link to this

Sorry for the double post

By falconfan

December 14, 2006 03:31 AM | Link to this

Please explain to me why Vick doesn’t win against winning/good teams. Why were Peerless and Lelie both good receivers before coming to Atlanta, with Peerless returning to form after leaving? Why is it that despite leading the league in rushing the past two seasons we can’t garner a passing game? Can such a productive run blocking line really be that bad at pass blocking? Maybe it’s just that easy to load the box and bring pressure because Vick can’t beat the blitz? Try and stick to the issues at hand this time instead of going off on a tangent regarding either Kordelle Stewart or 20 years of draft history.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 04:08 AM | Link to this

Um, sorry you don’t like me refuting your arguments but they are baseless. Lelie still has a high average yardage per catch like he did in Denver. No one has asked him to drop balls. Speaking of Denver, you answered your own question. Atlanta employs the Denver run blocking scheme that couldn’t pass block for Brian Griese, Jake Plummer, and now Jay Cutler and Michael Vick. Vick beats the blitz all of the time. The question is will his receiver catch the ball (probably not) or will he beat the rush only to spin back into even more defenders that weren’t even chipped (sometimes he can’t beat it but Vick is on pace to rush for 1000 yards). Despite the poor line play Vick will go down as the most successful QB EVER (do you read that? EVER!!!) in evading the rush. So if you don’t like me demonstrating how stupid your Kordell Stewart analogy is, don’t bring it up. If you don’t like it being pointed out how bad Vick’s supporting cast is, don’t bring it up. If you don’t like it being pointed out how abysmal Price and Lelie are (keep in mind Lelie was in Denver’s doghouse before being traded) THEN DON’T BRING IT UP!

By Cap

December 14, 2006 04:13 AM | Link to this

The explanation of why Vick and the Falcons don’t win against very good teams is the same explanation as to why they don’t win against bad teams. Because the Falcons are a VERY bad team with a few good players and one player who is the most electrifying of his generation (Vick). Why are the Falcons a bad team as constituted? Because of the 20 years of incomprehensibly incompetent draft history that you don’t want to hear about. Take off your blinders dude.

By Jay

December 14, 2006 05:34 AM | Link to this

To all the Vick haters: SHOVE IT

Vick wouldnt last back there five plays. If teams saw him lined up at tailback, they would run-blitz the crap out of him, then hit him as hard as possible. Then we would be forced to watch Schaub (with his 0-3 lifetime record) get pounded by our abysmal o-line…except he cant run from the pressure.

By Offended

December 14, 2006 05:57 AM | Link to this

He’s a low-life creep and he offends me. I want money for emotional distress.

By Boots

December 14, 2006 06:00 AM | Link to this

* Dirtie Birdie: I don’t think I’d try to make a big point of Vick’s winning record unless you want to go back 3 or 4 years. The important thing is that for the PAST TWO YEARS he if 15 and 14! And, if you go back to November of last year coming forward he’s 10 and 12. The tread, if one would graph it, is not moving in the right direction. Now, I know you don’t want to be confused with facts, but the record over the past two years is not something to write home about.*

By Toby Cash

December 14, 2006 06:07 AM | Link to this

Schaub at qb and Vick at wr, sounds like a winner.

By Steve

December 14, 2006 06:13 AM | Link to this

As bad as I want to see Shaub play I’ve got to say this is the DUMBEST idea I’ve ever heard of. There is very little evidence in the last several weeks to warrent a reason to change QB’s. The games we lost for the most part were not #7’s fault. Griffeth will do a great job. Play which ever QB is best. At this time it’s Vick (that hurts). Leave Shaub on the side lines unless we are going to make whole sale changes so when he leaves next year we’ll be able to say “gee he could have been playing for us! No need to mess with a fragile team chemistry by shaking up the mix.

By Eternal Optimist

December 14, 2006 06:28 AM | Link to this

Hold your horses folks. Anyone who knows anything about football should know that it would be too much of a gamble to put Vick in the backfield. He would most assuredly get hurt before halftime. Running in the open field as a QB and running out of the backfield are two totally different worlds. If we go down Saturday, we should go down w/Vick as QB. This team is just not that good. I love them but that’s just the simple truth. We are too small up front,we can’t pressure the opposing QB, and we just don’t make enough plays. And that’s on both sides of the ball. If we do not get turnovers or solid special team play, I don’t believe that this fragile defense will take us deep into the playoffs. Hopefully w/ a few good draft picks we can make a run next year.

By gary

December 14, 2006 07:22 AM | Link to this

Wow!! I can’t believe someone admitted that DJ is talented. Oh well, that’s one small step for the Falcon Nation. PEACE!!!!!

By Eternal Optimist

December 14, 2006 07:27 AM | Link to this

Atlanta has the IQ of a brick. Vick as running back, Shaub at QB. Vick breaks his leg on the first carry. Shaub throws for 160, 1 TD, 3 int’s and is sacked 6 times. Then I guess everyone in Atlanta will be happy. The next game the Falcons are blown out by Carolina, then fall to Philly in a blowout. Vick is p** demands a trade, goes to Tampa Bay and wins another championship for Gruden, and the Falcons begin another 10 yrs of sub-.500 football. Let us be carefull what we wish for. Vick is a QB period. Shaub is/or may well become a decent starter in the league one day. Not for the Falcons..

By Tuggle58

December 14, 2006 07:54 AM | Link to this

Face it people, there is a reason that Matt Schaub rides the bench. HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE A STARTER IN THE NFL!!!! Shut up and let Vick lead the team to victory you idiots. Go Birds

By jcfromindy

December 14, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

This is great news! Stupidity prevails. Go Falcons. Mick Vick Sucks at quarterback and probably running back, he’ll get clocked just like he does at quarterback. Way to go Falcons. What another stupid thought. That’s what you get for trading Duckett!!!!! Whomp! whomp! Falcons out of the Playoffs! Yippee!!!!

By GREG

December 14, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

PLEASE DONT DO IT!…HE’S SO VALUABLE AND A SMART PLAYMAKER!…THE IDIOTS IN ATLANTA DONT REALIZE THAT VICK COULDN’T START FOR HALF THE TEAMS IN THE NFL!…GO ATLANTA WITH YOUR AWESOME PROFESSIONAL SPORTS!..LOL!!!!!

By Football is my life

December 14, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this

I am a football savante. I know all. I see all. And I say: “Vick should simply run the quarterback sneek every play, and ve vill surround the NFC and CRUSH their puny balls mit our hands of steelen!!! Unt ve villen go allin ze vay to der zuperstuperbowlenheimah!!

Vick…HEIL!

Vick….HEIL!

Vick….HEIL!!

By John from Dunwoody

December 14, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

VICK IS A WR KILLER. AT WHAT POINT DO YOU SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? HE HAS BEEN PROVIDED WITH VERY GOOD WR’S SUCH AS PEERLESS PRICE, ASHLEE LELIE, AND ALL THOSE FIRST ROUNDERS. THEY WERE ALL GREAT PLAYERS UNTIL VICK MADE THEM SUCK. JERRY RICE AND MARVIN HARRISON WOULD HAVE HAD THE SAME RESULT HAD THEY HAD SOMEONE AS HORRIBLE AS MICHAEL VICK TRYING TO THROW TO THEM. ————— MICHAEL VICK IS A QB?… THIS IS THE DUMBEST JOKE - THAT GUY IS A PIECE OF CRAP THUGAHOLIC.

By Barry

December 14, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

Hey Y’all:

Let’s stop this stupid idea of letting Vick play runningback. Because he is the most gifted quaterback in the league, with his arm and legs, does not give the right of Falcon management and the fans to consider him a running back. As Vick says “I am a quarterback.!!!” VACick is going to break all kinds of running and throwing records in this league once the Falcons develop all the rright peices to the offense. It appears someone to suggest that he play running back, and possibly get hurt, does not want Vick to have the opprtunity to break all those records. Makes you want to go “Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?? Therefore, I say, stay the course Vick. You have been a successful quarterback all your life; through high school, college, and the pros. Do not let anyone take you away from your career goal of being the best all around quarterback in the history of the NFL, no matter what. Vick, I love the way you play man. Do the right thing which is “BE THE BEST D-MN QUARTERBACK IN THE NFL. BAR NONE!!!!!!!!!!

This is a SECRET from us real FALCON FANS. TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LET’s PLAY BALL.

SEE YOU AT THE DOME. DALLAS YOU ARE IN TROUBLE. WE WILL BE PLAYING WILD AND CRAZY SOUTHERN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Phar71

December 14, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this

Silence the Dome If the cowgirls inroduce the offense before the game we should all turn our backs when they intoduce TO. The guy feeds off of our boo’s, and we might be able to get into his head if we dont make a peep! Who is on other Falcons message board and wants to get this movement started? We could make fliers and pass them out at the game

By la

December 14, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

Why don’t you ask Jake Delhome,David Carr and Tony Romo become a running back. That is the most outrageous proposal. He is a quarterback that is gifted at running.

By Toldyaso

December 14, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

This is an interesting article:

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By bh

December 14, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

how do you think he will do well in RB? He even can’t master the position he’s played all his life. He is so fragile. Maybe 1 or 2 games in RB and done for the season? Life is not fair becuase those guys just don’t want to admit they made mistakes and tried to squeeze square pid in the round hole. I remembered he was 2 or 3 spots behind Joe Hamilton in Heisman race that year. He got a multi million year contract and Joe didn’t even get a chance to really play in NFL.

By Super Lou

December 14, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

Once again the Matt Schaub fan club surfaces. WHAT A JOKE!!! You think because he had one good game (which he lost), and he is a preseason all-star that he is the Falcons savior? Get a life. If they had to play him for a full season you’d be crying just like Doug Johnson had you crying a few years back. It’s a whole lot different when a team shows you all their packages, all their schemes and you don’t have the athletic ability to escape. Ask Drew Bledsoe how it feels. And I think Greg is the true idiot. How could anyone in their right mind think Vick couldn’t start for half the teams in the league? If he were with a team that had an offensive coordinator with a clue, and some recievers with some hands what you’d be looking at is 1000 yards rushing, and 3000 yards passing on a regular basis.

By John from Dunwoody

December 14, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

VICK IS A 100 METER SPRINTER THAT IS TOO SLOW TO COMPETE AT A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL IN TRACK AND IS TOO UNDERSIZED FOR ANY POSITION IN THE NFL. HE CAN’T THROW OR KICK OR TAKE A HIT. IF HE COULD KICK, HE MAY BE A GOOD PUNTER. HOWEVER, I WOULDN’T WANT TO DEPEND ON HIM TO KICK FROM DEEP NEAR THE END ZONE. I REALLY THINK THAT HE WOULD MAKE A GOOD PINCH RUNNER FOR THE BRAVES, AS LONG AS HE WASN’T TOLD TO STEAL BASES. HE WOULD LIKELY DUPLICATE HIS COMPLETION PERCENTAGE ON THE BASES IF TRIED TO STEAL.

By Bear

December 14, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

Is this even a topic for discussion? Come on, get real!!!!!

By homet

December 14, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

WAKE UP ATLANTA…VICK IS NOT THE “FRANCHISE” as some have written. Remember the old adage…The is no “I” in team!…

Vick is what he is…a AVERAGE NFL quarterback..he is a POTENTIALLY great NFL runningback…

He’s getting paid big bucks to play…Mora heeds to grow a “set” and TELL him what to do and where to play…

START Schaub and RUN Vick & let’s go all the way to the Super Bowl!!!

By uga dead flys

December 14, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

45% of the fans who want this has snakes in there heads. They show they don’t care about Vick nor this team. It proves some of our fans have $hit for brains! And if our coaches pulls this other than a trick play should be run off!

By fred

December 14, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Next thing they will find out that Vic can not only run and pass, but that he can also block. Why not amke him a guard, center, field goal kicker. I bet he can catch the ball better that most of the recievers also. Heck, he would probably make a great coach. Look out Mora.

By mountain_jim

December 14, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

I don’t know why I read this blog anymore - the Vick haters don’t know football and are not paying attention to the quality of his reads, decisions, and throws this year. He is playing QB just fine, given the poor OC playcalling, oline and receiver play.

He layed his heart and body on the field in the NO game and got no help at all from the rest of his team.

You haters should go root for some other team - you are no fans of this one.

This fan for 30 years says I have seen enough of Knapp and Stewart though - those coaches have to be replaced after this season or Mora will be out soon after.

By Fred

December 14, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

Next thing they will find out that Vic can not only run and pass, but that he can also block. Why not amke him a guard, center, field goal kicker. I bet he can catch the ball better that most of the recievers also. Heck, he would probably make a great coach. Look out Mora.

By Bo

December 14, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

The same “haters” that want to see Mike at running back are the same IDIOTS that have been complaining about him running the ball too much because he might get injured.

The bottom line is, you would love to see “I haven’t won a regular season game since I’ve been in the NFL Matt Schaub” at QB.

If Mike decides to run one or two plays as a decoy..then I’m fine with it.

Mike Vick IS and WILL BE the QB for the falcons until he retires or gets sick of you rednecks!!

By Tammy

December 14, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

I love you Cap and Jay…you two know NFL Football.

By T.P.

December 14, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

Racists like John from Dunwoody lay awake everynight night dreaming about Mike Vick’s chocolate skin, diamond earings and $100 million contract…lol

That’s the only problem you have with Mike Vick. You can whine and cry about his passing percentage until you are blue in the face…We aren’t buying it BUDDY!! Move to Green Bay or North Dakota boy..lol

By JP

December 14, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Its just ridiculus for us to even believe any of this BS. You know that Vick aint gonna line up at TB, thats just something that was put out there to give parcells something to worry about. He’s probably going to run alot but not from the running back position. Bo you are right, but if thats the case we continue to be a mediocre team with the most exciting player in the league. And thats the justs of it. I’m black, but I know if this was a white Qb he would have been sat down and thats just the truth. Vick has not been sat because of his salary not because he’s been playin so great.

By John from Dunwoody

December 14, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

I’m not sure if Bo is a whore, a jerk, a creep, a btch, or a c*ksucker.

By WallStBro

December 14, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

Stop the Madness!! If Mora and Knapp want to guarantee themselves a spot in the unemployment line, then go ahead and let Vick play RB. While he may not be the best pure passer in the league, he keeps most defenses honest by his playmaking ability. Vick is able to do what he does, primarily because plays break down and he IMPROVISES. As RB there is very little room to improvise. In addition, he takes enough hits at QB, why would you subject your best player to more risk? As for you Schaub fans, he is average at best. Yes, he could probably start on a handfull of teams, but the Falcons are not one of them. The O-Line is woeful and he’d never last under the defensive pressure with no protection.

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 14, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

That first post by “keeping it real!” had me rollin’. Grady Jackson at fullback and Matt Schaub at receiver? Maybe I should try that in Madden. Seriously, I would love to see Grady Jackson in the backfield, if only because it would have me laughing uncontrollably. I think I will die and go to heaven if he tries to return a fumble for a touchdown. That man’s arms can’t even reach his waist — I’m amazed he’s a pro athlete, but he is arguably the MVP of our defense this year. Amazing. I’m surprised his jersey is not more popular, because if I had 50 bucks laying around I would gladly buy a #90.

But seriously, why not use him as a goal line back? It would probably take at least 3 guys to form a circle around him, let alone tackle him…

By Willie Jacks

December 14, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

For those of you that want MV7 in the backfield, I have one thing to say—IDIOTS!!! Forget the possibility of both quarterbacks getting hurt in the game—you simply cannot afford to take a $100 million investment and set him up to get killed. You just can’t.

Yes, Vick has run for almost 1000 yards, but he can only make plays when the time and the feel is right. He must be able to run on his own terms. Putting him at runningback would be a disaster for him, the team, and the city.

By JP

December 14, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Mountain Jim what are you watching, please don’t smoke the dope on sundays because it is messing with you eye sight. Ya’ll are acting like he is Joe Montana or something. He has not played any better than Rex Grossman to me its just that he can run. How many yards does he have for the season td’s & int’s. Ya’ll are gonna put all that on the coaches and the other players. Come on. Vick is a good player but his development as a qb in this league has been real slow. I hope he gets it togwether because he’s on my team but its just not lookin like it.

By PookeyWad

December 14, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Vick would get killed as a running back. Yes, he has rushed for almost 1000 yards. Yes, he is one of the all time great running QB’s. But send him up the middle against Dallas D and watch him get crippled. He is not durable enough to run the ball 25 times per game. Tough yes, but durable No. He is a running QB. Period. Not a RB.

By barkey

December 14, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

This is the best idea that I have heard in a long time. Yes, put Vick in as a running back. Finally, we have a solution. Only problem with it is that he can’t hold on to the football. More fumbles, more bumbles. Time to start over; get us some good players and we will go to the superbowl. Too much controversy with all of this; need to return to the great falcons of 1999. Matt Schaub is the answer to our problems; he is a great passer, can fun fairly decent and is brilliant and can read defenses. Give him a chance and you will see great turnaround for this team. Just face the truth, dunces.

By falcon guy

December 14, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

I understand what the Falcons are trying to do by letting this possibility leak and then not totally deny it. It’s gamesmanship. Any little doubt they can put in Dallas’ minds, or make them waste time preparing for is in their favor. Could the Falcons actually do it? Sure I can see them do it as a trick play. Put Schaub in at QB and line Vick up at RB as a decoy, put him in motion and then have Schaub throw to the other side of the field from Vick, trying to get Dallas to screw up by focusing on Vick. But for anybody who thinks Vick should be lined up at RB and run a few plays, you’re out of your mind. As a QB keeping the ball on sweeps and draws, or scrambling on broken pass plays, he’s unparalleled in the NFL. But that’s because he has the threat of passing in his favor. If you lined up in an ACE formation or I-formation with Vick at RB, he’d get killed. He doesn’t have the physical build to stand up to that type of running. Sure Dunn is small too, but he’s also shorter, hard to see in a crowd and has been doing this type of running for 15 years. Vick has not. Trick plays or decoys and wasted prep time for Dallas is all the production you can gain from a potential Vick/Schaub backfield.

By JP

December 14, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Barkey you have a point there. Vick is a qb but he’s just not a good one right now. Lets just work on his game and see if its gets better. But I don’t know about the schaub move either because he aint proved nothin either. I think schaub fits this system better but I don’t know if he would be better.

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 14, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Did I see a post by “falconfan” claiming that Peerless Price has been “fantastic” since he left Atlanta?

Of all the ridiculous statements I have ever seen, this has got to be the worst. If you need a quick refresher course, Price went to Dallas after his time here, where he was reunited with Drew Bledsoe (the Bills QB when Price had his career year opposite Eric Moulds). While in Dallas, the “fantastic” Price was unable to beat out Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, or Patrick Crayton (who? exactly) for a spot in the WR rotation. When the Cowboys found out that he is at best an average receiver, they decided to try him at punt returner, where he averaged 5.3 yards per punt return. Once they realized that Price is basically useful for nothing at that point, they decided to cut him before the season got over. Funny how that worked out. Now the “fantastic” Peerless Price is in Buffalo as the #3 receiver, where he gets to showcase his breathtaking speed by averaging 8.1 yards per reception and 2.9 yards after catch. Yeah, what were we thinking when we cut him, must have been Vick holding him back from being so fantastic. Peerless Price being described as “fantastic”. Wow. Not unless you are a die-hard Volunteers fan.

I don’t think the Falcons do that bad of drafting under McKay — for the most part he’s done a good job of bringing in talented players in the draft. Particularly in the late rounds and undrafted, McKay finds players with high value — Michael Boley, Demorrio Williams, Chauncey Davis, TJ Jackson are just a few examples. Even underachievers like Roddy White have the physical skills that can’t be taught, they just need proper coaching. The underlying reason behind all the Falcons’ problems is the coaching staff. They can’t develop players, the play-calling sucks, clock management is questionable, they don’t know how to make in-game adjustments, and the schemes on both sides of the ball have little or no chance of working. The Falcons right now probably are a top 5 team in the NFL if you just look at talent on both sides of the ball, but that talent means nothing when it’s coupled with terrible coaching. A good coach like Parcells or Lovie Smith would have this team easily in Super Bowl contention.

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 14, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

I stand corrected. As ridiculous as it was to see Peerless Price described as “fantastic”, now we have someone referencing the “great Falcons of 1999”. Yeah, those same great Falcons of Chris Chandler, Byron Hanspard, OJ Santiago, etc. At least we had Morten Andersen. The greatness all started with the 1999 draft, where we traded a future first-round pick (used on Jamal Lewis by the Ravens) to trade up in the 2nd round and select Reggie Kelly. Then this historic team went on to finish with a stellar 5-11 record, highlighted of course by the 9 games in which we scored less than 2 touchdowns. Amazing. What a memorable year that was, 1999.

For more information on this historic season, please visit this site.

By mike

December 14, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

I am glad to still see all the Vick haters still here. Most just wannabees who have never played the game or any others for that matter. I guess it justs really gets to them to see MV be the quarterback. Hey when you guys are watching the game Saturday night think about all that money he’s getting for playing this kids game. Fact is, if Schaub was better, he would be the quarterback.

By VickBeliever

December 14, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

Everybody on here who took the time to say that the Falcons should play Mike Vick you are all complete idiots like that Chris Dimino on 790thezone who is a obvious Vick hater. So please stop with this just remember this he is a QB who just happens to be able to run. Let’s all just cheer for the team and keep your hidden agenda’s to yourself we need to seriously get past that. Vick is no where near the problem of this team.

By VickBeliever

December 14, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Barkey you are dumb and your comments back my thoughts of you.

By GREG

December 14, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

WHY CHANGE ANYTHING…FALCONS ARE HOT!!!I REALLY MISS LIVING IN ATLANTA,RABID SPORTS FANS!!…LOL!!!!!

By Big Ham

December 14, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

I’ve read some of the comments that a lot of you fools write. Some of you guys wouldn’t know football if someone smacked you in the face with one. Hell, the way some of you think, I don’t beleive that some you guys ever made it pass recreation, and possibly High School ball.

You think with your brain, which is not a good idea for some of you because your braun is filled with so much crap. You show just how prejudice you every time you fingers move to type what’s going on in that tiny little, ounce of a brain you have.

Vick is the QB for the Falcons, and that’s the way it’s gonna be, ni matter what you think. Schaub coundn’t begin to compete with Vick. But some of you idiots would love to see him in there, wouldn’t you? Read it and weep, Boys.

The Falcons will be on top, and Vick will stay in the drivers seat. All of you perdudice a, fair weather fans can get the fu on.

By VickBeliever

December 14, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

JP you are even dumber than Barkey you guys need to come out of the woods and try the real world.

By moulon fish

December 14, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

I am the closest thing to an expert that this blog line will see. I have played football at all levels and have experience to speak to this issue. The time has come for the falcons to embrace reality; this team is going absolutely nowhere under the present regime and scenario of play calling. To put Vick in at RB would be suicide; he is not big enough and is afraid of getting hurt (why not, at 140 mil.) The cowboys would mop the ground with him if he becomes the main running back. It might be time to move to the two QB option. Try Vick the first half SAT and if he fails miserably, then put Schaub in and see what he can do. Sooner or later the falcons are going to need to make a move for consistency. It is apparent to any logically thinking fans that Vick is a good runner, not too quick upstairs and less than adequate throwing the football. But we are going to have to use the main talents that he has because there is just too much money invested in him. I just hope he can hold on to the football on saturday. What do the rest of the experts think about this?

By Cap

December 14, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

Najeh Davenpoop, stop trying to school the haters. They just aren’t listening. These delusional fans somehow are under the believe that the Falcons are perennial super bowl contenders when it has been because of Vick and only Vick that Atlanta is not horrific like it has been for almost its entire history. Falcons “fans”, how do you go from the NFC championship game 2 seasons ago to wanting Vick to play RB because the starter and his backup got hurt behind a bad offensive line? Should the discussion be about how to improve the offensive line? To be honest, I don’t even think there is really a way to improve the WR corps that much. Lelie should have been drafted instead of Duckett in the first place; having him on the roster 4-years too late is only acknowledging that the Falcons lost time developing a number one receiver to mesh with Vick. Jenkins is just a flat-out mistake; the ultimate ‘red flag’ player – a state of Florida WR that was allowed to leave the state to play at Ohio State. He always has had the ultimate WR identity crisis. Either he needs to lose ten pounds and become faster to be even a slow version of Randy Moss or bulk up and learn how to catch. What perplexes me the most is Roddy White. Reggie Brown was not a first round receiver. Yet in the face of the prospect of drafting Roddy White, Brown was a highly touted prep player from outside Atlanta who finally was able to get to Georgia to eventually develop as the best receiver on a pretty good Georgia team and was the better half of the dynamic duo with Fred Gibson. Roddy White? Nothing against the mighty Blazers but there was a reason Brown went to Georgia and White went to UAB. Darrell Hackney the QB at UAB was by far and away the best player on that team and White happened to be the beneficiary of a 5’11” 270lb. QB that essentially could not be sacked by conventional defenses of mediocre to sorry college teams. White never had to learn how to cut off routes and come back to the ball or catch in traffic because he never had to. Brown and Hackney are both essentially from Atlanta or performed on “stages” nearby. How could Falcons management not know Reggie Brown was better or Hackney was the actual star of that UAB team? Roddy White=stupid move the Falcons are stuck with. But to put the Falcons’ failures off on Vick when they should have been at least building a stalwart O-Line is preposterous. This is worse than Reeves drafting Tommy Maddox to replace Elway in ’92. Elway needed a running back and that draft was completely devoid of any good running backs but they could have drafted WRs Carl Pickens or Jimmy Smith who went a few picks later in the second-round just to give Elway that much more help. Instead, the franchise stalled for a few years clearing out Reeves and his mess rather than contending for championships. It would be wise for more help be devoted for Vick and the Falcons cut their losses with their poor WR evaluation rather than stall out trying to start all over again with Schaub.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Sorry, in terms of Atlanta building through the draft, scratch that. Talking about the ’92 draft made me realize that that was the only draft besides ’01 (Vick 1st round, Crumpler 2nd round) in the past 20 years that the Falcons did not completely blow. Time will tell on the ’04 draft but they obviously aren’t doing too much right now. The Falcons have to be the worst drafting team ever in the NFL. Even the Cardinals made some good picks, they were just good players for other teams. Then again, so was Deion Sanders. Outside of him, Bob Whitfield, Keith Brooking, and Patrick Kerney (as well as of course Vick) are the only proof that anybody working for the Falcons front office has ever even been awake during the first round of any draft. Like I said in an earlier post, outside of Whitfield and Chuck Smith and then Vick and Crumpler, the Falcons are utterly incapable of drafting two decent players in successive rounds. No wonder the Falcons have never had back to back winning seasons.

By G'Vegas Dawg

December 14, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Simple answer - DJ Shockley at RB. He knows the plays already and if he gets hurt it wouldn’t affect the team as much as losing Vick.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

And you don’t have to read my long blog. But for anyone who needs reference material on how the Falcons cannot evaluate receivers (or pretty much any talent in the draft for that matter), even homegrown players staring them in the face please feel free to cite that post at your leisure.

By D-Man

December 14, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

I am with you uga dead flys, your a smart guy. Vick is one of the most absolute quarterbacks I have ever seen, so before you a*******holes suggest lining him up as a running back think about asking people like Daunte Culpepper or Brett Favre or even better Joe Montana to line up first you a*******holes!!

By D-Man

December 14, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

Cap you only know how to eat A$$ and thats it.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

The only players that should be playing running back are the running backs. If the Falcons need to move players from other positions to play RB because the blocking lost the top two backs in the same freaking quarter, maybe that is an indicator that management is clueless to the needs of the franchise. That is a not so innocuous way of saying that anyone who has watched the Falcons for the past six years has known they needed a much better offensive line. Now it has really cost the team. But yet, the haters want to move Vick to RB, WR, or trade him outright with the belief that Schaub or some rookie QB draft pick or an immobile dropback passer free agent will be even marginally successful behind an offensive line that anyone with at least one eye can see the Falcons management has ZERO commitment to galvanizing. HEY ATLANTA, GOOD LUCK SIGNING FREE AGENTS!!!!

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Steve,

Can the next few blogs be titled. .

“How ignorant can you be on the Falcons blog?”

“Exactly how stupid are Falcons Fans?”

“Jim Mora at Running Back?”

“What’s the best way to go back to a half empty dome and 5-11 seasons?”

“What if Mike Vick was a NASCAR driver?”

Those kind of pointless blogs would be more fun than this pointless blog.

By T-Town Dawg

December 14, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Vick is a below average QB that would have been benched during the 4 game losing streak if Blank had not tied up so much money on him. Although his overall record may be well above .500 and may stay well above .500 over the next several years, Vick will never LEAD this team or any other team to the big dance. He just does not have the necessary skills to do so. He is one of the most exciting players in the league. He will rush for more yards than any qb in history. But he cannot throw the ball and you must have a balanced attack to win big in this league. I do not hate Michael Vick. I don’t care what color he is or what he made on his Wonderlick test. I just want the Birds in the Superbowl, and I don’t think they will get there with MV leading the team.

By kevin

December 14, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Vick is a qb not a rb. Schaub isnt ready toplayin the nfln willbe a back up forever unless he gets traded. vick is the qb

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

T-Town Dog,

Kinda like how Peyton Manning will never lead his team to the big dance?

You think the birds were headed to the Super Bowl anyways? C’mon. Look at this coaching staff, offensive line, wide receivers and secondary. QB is the least of our problems at the moment.

Those of you that think putting Schaub in will suddenly keep our pass defense from being 32nd in the league just simply don’t get it. Those of you that think that suddenly we will have pass protection from late round, undersized offensive lineman just don’t get it. Those of you that think the Falcons will still have the #1 running game in the NFL with Schaub SIMPLY DON’T GET IT!

By Dave

December 14, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Putting Vick at running back will quadruple our turn overs. There is no way he can run with a football without dropping it.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Every one keeps talking about Vick not being able to lead the Falcons to the Super Bowl. So, who the heck is going to do it? The only offensive player in Falcons history besides Vick and maybe Crumpler worth his weight was Jamal Anderson. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! For a freakin’ DECADE the Falcons offense actually tried to compete with the leftovers and castoffs of the Indianapolis Colts (Rison, George, Chandler, Dickerson). And now people talk like the Falcons have some kind of winning tradition to fall back on. Folks, no back to back winning seasons. Before Vick, the Falcons were posting winning seasons about once every seven years. You haters have no right to even be talking about Super Bowl.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Thank you dirtybird. Why are all the haters so eager to bench Vick? You take away his nearly thousand yards and the Falcons are a below average rushing team. But with Atlanta’s O-line, Wide Receivers, and Schaub’s inexperience do you honestly think Atlanta is actually going to become an ABOVE average passing team to make up the slack?

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Cap,

Even now, we’re trying to compete with the leftovers and castoffs of the 49ers. We just signed ANOTHER former 49er this week. News Flash. San Fran was a sh*tty team! Why would we hire their coaching staff or take on their castoffs? Get Vick an experienced coaching staff and some real players(Not 49ers) and you’ll see the difference.

By Dave

December 14, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

I have to agree with T-Town Dawg. Vick is fun to watch. I thought it was a great choice when the Falcons made him number one. But I was wrong. He hasn’t improved. He can’t hit the long ball. He can’t throw over anyone. He can’t check down. He can’t even hang on to the ball when he is running. He can win a game every now and then, but he will lose as many as he wins.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Well, after seeing Greg Knapp get yelled at and punked by T.O. on the Niners sideline I assumed everyone player, coach, and management official in the NFL would lose all respect for him and he would never work in this league again. I guess I was wrong. If T.O. is telling you how to do your job then you have serious issues. But I think T.O. went out and actually proved who was right in that argument.

By Clayton Bigsby

December 14, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

 **The Rednecks are back**

I thought you guys left after the Steelers game.

That whole story was created by another redneck writer. Get outta ATL with these bogus rumors. Even Parcell said it’ll surprise him if M.Vick plays QB.

Yes genius 3 is an idiot along with the other clones that agree. You wouldn’t tell ya mamma to kiss ya azz, that’s ya wifes job right? Now explain why would M.Vick play RB, thats not his job. Anything to help the team huh? Well tell mamma to start kissing.

By Cap

December 14, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Dave, it is cool that you want to be on the blog and participation is encouraged as this is a free country. But you are are bringing up issues that got debated down about a month ago. If he fumbles so much, when was the last time he fumbled, Dave? How many interceptions has he thrown in the past four games, Dave? If he loses as many as he wins, shouldn’t that mean he is .500 or below as a starting QB? If he can’t check down, why did he have to completely override Knapp’s call to throw the TD to Michael Jenkins in the Redskins’ game? If he hasn’t improved (or at least maintained), why does he keep going to the Pro Bowl? He can’t throw over anyone? Why, is 6’0” tall too short to play QB? Should we run and go tell Drew Brees that? Hey Dave, get a clue guy.

By DBS

December 14, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

OK…I have posted this before and I will keep doing it…Put Crumpler and Beverly wide right….put Vick behind them and call that the Trifecta. Put Schaub under center and Griffith in the back field. Do you think the defense is going to put just 3 guys over there against the Trifecta? If the do you lateral pass to Vick who can take off or pass and has two blockers. If they put 4 guys over there, Schaub keeps it and hands off or passes to whichever WR is in the game…the WR will be open because the Trifecta is pulling 4 guys to the other side of the field……HMMMMMM. I can assure all readers of this that there will be no 8 in the box against that formation

By mo

December 14, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

I think that it will be a real possibility that if Schaub was under center and Vick was in the backfield that there will be a serious bounty on their heads. I mean, if you lose both of them in one play, game over. You win.

And any fine and suspension will be nothing compared to the devastation it will have to the Falcons organization.

See, right now Shockley is in a great position. It is the position that I wished Vick could have been for at least three years… holding a clipboard and learning by listening. To lose Vick AND Schaub will be to lost Shockley as well.

By Mo

December 14, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

If Matt Schaub is so GREAT…why isn’t he starting? You IDIOTS talk like he’s Joe Montana’s son…if he was all that, Mike Vick would have been traded 2 years ago. And if you don’t think that at least half of the league would trade 5 players to get him, put the crack pipe down!!

You haters said the same thing about Doug Johnson…where is he now?? When Matt Schaub is TRADED next year let’s see if you are this passionate about starting D. J. Shockley…I doubt it!!

By JP

December 14, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Vickbeliever you need to come out of closet and admit what you really are(a homo). I said that vick is part of the problem. I say trade him and lets get some players in here that help us do more than go 8-8. Because right now with Ron Mexico we are an mediocre team. The record doesn’t lie neither does the stats. I hate that he is black because we will never be able to get rid of him without everybody actin a damn fool. He is an average Qb with 4.2 speed on an average team and thats it. I’m black now call me what you want but thats the truth.

By GREG

December 14, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

MAYBE IF THEY LINE UP LIKE THAT,VICK COULD GIVE SCHAUB A REACH A ROUND!!!…LOL!!!!!

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

JP,

Let’s suppose for a moment that you had any idea what the salary cap was. How exactly to you package the $130 million QB? Which other 10 players on the Falcons are you going to cut the day that Vick gets traded? Just curious.

By genius3

December 14, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Mo - The reason vick wasn’t traded two years ago is that half of the city of atlanta would have burned to the ground. If you want a super bowl, it is time to trade him now. He is a great runner and that is it; he is not going to take this team anywhere but mediocrity. Another 8 and 8 season or maybe 7 and 9. Welcome to the real world.

By Ross

December 14, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

For everybody that thinks Vick could be a good running back for more than a few plays a game, think back to when he’s running in the open field and realizes he needs to go down or get hit. Do any of those “slides” look graceful in the least bit? Not to me! Everytime he takes a hit, I wonder if he’s going to get up. He would not be able to take the hits that a RB has to be able to take.

If everybody would rather see a starter run the ball instead of our FB (who is a perfectly capable RB and receiver), then put Keith Brooking back there and let him dish out some punishment on the defense like he always does on opposing offenses! —— Griffith will put on a show from the backfield Saturday night!!—— WRITE IT DOWN!!

By gg

December 14, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

remember the early and mid 90’s when the cowboys used to come in here and dominate-well that’s what is going to happen on sat night-another national tv embarassment for the falcoons. romo’s been struggling but not anymore-after all he’s playing against the falcoons. romo will have a record passing performance and the falcoons will have been the team that helped him get back on track.

By Chris

December 14, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

Where in the sam hell does it say the Falcons are considering switching Vick to RB in that article… I swear, this paper is getting worse and worse every day trying to stir the pot…

By FalconsFan

December 14, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

Vick aint no QB, we all agree on that much.

But the reason Vick runs for the yardage he does is he dont run until he sees a clear field in front of him.

Running Vick up the middle would be hurtfull to watch.

Trade Vick soon.

By Bingo Starr

December 14, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

“And please, stop pointing at his overall record when justifying his poor performances. Vick was 6-13-1 against teams with winning records prior to the start of the season. That figure’s gotten worse this year as the only team with a winning record that I can recall us beating was Cincinnati.”

You don’t think that has anything to do with a horrible pass blocking offensive line?

Winning teams have good defensive lines. Let’s say your offensive line is average at best. What do you think is going to happen when they face a good defensive line?

Puhleeeze get a freaking clue. I think having a losing record against winning teams is more of an indictment to this unit than it is to Michael Vick. Until Atlanta gets a decent offensive line they’ll never make it to the big dance.

If you need a clue watch a New England Patriots game this year. Tom Brady has practice squad receivers who get no separation and have terrible hands. His saving grace is that he actually has a decent offensive line and good offensive playcalling.

I gurantee this. If Atlanta trades Michael Vick I will burn all Falcons memorabilia, get all memories of the Falcons erased from my mind (kind of like the movie, “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”) & make fun of Falcons fans for the rest of my life.

Morons

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

Only a moron really thinks that Vick could be traded. There are these 2 important things called “Salary Cap” and “Ticket Sales”. Both numbers will be devastated the day that Vick gets traded. Let’s get real people. Sorry to rain on your ignorant parade, but it was parading backwards anyways.

By T-Town Dawg

December 14, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

dirtybird, I completely agree with you that Manning will never take the Colts to the Super Bowl. He wilts under pressure. He doesn’t have the guts to win under the brightest lights. No, the Falcons were not going to the Super Bowl before Vick came in, nor will they go with Vick. I do feel that we could have drafted a better qb over the last 6 years. As a matter of fact, we have a better qb on our bench right now. Not Schaub, although he may be better. I’m talking about Mr. Shockly. He brings the threat of the run as well as being able to hit receivers down field. Defenses could not stack 8, 9, 10 guys in the box against DJ because he has the ability to hit his receivers. Let me also say that I agree with most of you that Vick has not had the best receivers to work with. They have been poor at best this year. But I do not think that any defensive coordinators in the league fear losing to Vick as a passer. If they shut down our running game, we are defeated. Vick cannot rally this team in the fourth quarter with his arm.

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

T-Town Dog,

Thanks for letting us know that you went to UGA. Shockley was a career backup in college and played one full year. Where does the logic come from that he is better than Schaub and Vick? I like Shockley don’t get me wrong, but let’s put down the bulldog kool-aid for a minute. Vick has actually played a much better Qb this year. If his receivers make the catches they are supposed to make then he is a 60% passer this year. He hasn’t committed a turnover in the past 4 games. The defense is atrocious. We have 3 pro bowlers on our D-line but none on our Offensive line. If you’re an owner or a GM or even the fcking coach, why would you not invest in protecting your franchise player? Somebody please tell me why we don’t protect our fcking franchise player?!!!!!

By peyton fan

December 14, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

T-Town Dawg, since when was Peyton on defense allowing 250 rushing yds? If he had any half-a$$ defense, he would have a Superbowl by now!

By JP

December 14, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

Dirtybird you are crazy and not so smart. The salary cap doesn’t keep you cutting or trading anybody. Theres a consequence for doing so but so what. Don’t you think tennessee took a salary cap hit when they let mcnair go, i’m pretty sure they did. So its not impossible. I don’t understand what the big deal would be if we did get rid of him. We aint good with him, so how much worst can we be without him, oh we’d win 7 games instead of 8 come on. And tell me this, would you rather sellout the dome and be average or would you want to win the damn super bowl. All we are doing right now is selling out the damn dome.

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Peyton Fan,

But he doesn’t, and he wont’.

By vickisick

December 14, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

dirrtybird…front office f******* up the personnel decision regarding the undersized o-line and the “run first” mentality. vick can run on improvs, so front office should have gone big o-line “pass first” personnel, but instead they overthought the offensive scheme.

reeves was great at giving vick the same treatment any other qb needs, pass protection and TE RB dump off options for comfort. everything vick does with his legs an offensive scheme does not need to be built for because vick decides when to take off a la steve young. JESUS FKING CHRIST FRONT OFFICE WHY DO I SOUND SO GODDAM SMART AND YOU GET PAID DO GODDAM MUCH TO LOOK LIKE IDIOTS

By JP

December 14, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Peyton fan you are right. You can’t compare the two qb’s because if we had peyton manning guess what we’d be 10-3. Look you vick fans have to be realistic and get off his jock. Okay he can run, but its more to playing qb than running around. Right now, hell vince young has played a better qb than vick. And who are his receivers? Now i’ll give you that the oline is garbage and the receivers are suspect but vick aint great his damn self. Lets see him win some games that matter and take this team to the super bowl then you will shut me up but until then you don’t have an argument.

By Madden King

December 14, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

I have one question to all these racist Vick haters. Why is it that no one in America ever considers moving the white QB to receiver or running back? WHY? Why doesn’t any body say move Matt Hasselback at receiver and let Seneca Wallace play QB? Why don’t they move Peyton Manning to Tight End? Peyton tall and big enough to play that position. Why doesn’t any body say move Tom Brady to running back? Oh I forgot those players are not mobile and players like Vick, Young, and Wallace should play other positions because of there mobility. In 1966 they moved all the black mobile QB’s to reciever or runniing back and it is 2006 and you have fans still saying move players like Vick, Young, and Wallace who are black to those same positions, and white people are quick to say it’s not about race. YEAH RIGHT! HOLLA! GO FALCONS! GO ALL MOBILE BLACK QUARTERBACKS!

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

JP,

“We aint good with him, so how much worst can we be without him”

With a sentence like that, you’re not allowed to say that i’m not that smart.

Salary Cap-McNair had been under contract for years and his signing bonus had been covered already. Vick hasn’t. There is this thing called an accelerated Cap Hit. The Falcons will have to pay Vick’s signing bonus immediately instead of spreading it out over 10 years. The Falcons will be forced to cut Dunn, Crumpler, Brooking, and a few other Pro Bowlers if Vick is traded. Feel stupid yet?

“Sell out the dome and be average or win a damn Super Bowl????” This is great. I’d rather sell out the dome and be average than go to an empty dome and be the worst team in the league. You think that the Falcons will be winning a Super Bowl without Vick? hahahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! The Falcons are the doormat of the league without Vick. Please see all prior years except for 1998. In fact, see 1999 (5-11 following Super Bowl run). The truth is that the Falcons may never win a Super Bowl with Vick, just like the Colts may never win with Manning, or the Dolphins never won with Marino. That’s a tribute to the rest of the team, not the QB’s. If you want to win a Super Bowl, you get some real coaches and a real offensive line. Trade Vick and you won’t even be selling out the dome.You’ll have over priced tickets and a bunch of no names that the Falcons can afford. Great idea. I hope that you run a company somewhere.

By Ken Strickland

December 14, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

Why are so many of you concerned about what these haters think? Why do you continue to respond to these idiots who post the same ignorant comments. The underlying theme is always the same. They can’t embrace the Falcons with Vick at QB, so their confederate mentalities want him moved to the traditional skill positions they feel are reserved for his kind(WR,CB,RB). This entire argument reminds me of the movie THE GREAT WHITE HOPE. They want to see Schaub assume his rightful place as the brains and leader of the Falcons.

They don’t need to know if Schaub can win a SB for this team. They don’t mind losing as long as tradition is upheld. The fact that only one QB has led the Falcons to a SB, in the history of this franchise, doesn’t matter. All of those QB’s were traditional and met the confederate minded standard for acceptance.

To try and prove to everyone, especially themselves, race and/or color doesn’t matter, they mention Shockey as an option. They see Shockey as a local UGA boy, that is more plantation friendly than the more talented finger flipping Vick. They don’t care if Schaub can’t lead the Falcons to a SB, or that he’s winless, as long as their confederate minded tradition is in place. If Vick is to be the Falcons QB, he MUST lead us to a SB win. Anything less requires he be replaced by a smarter(traditional) QB or moved to one of the traditional position for his kind.

Being the winningest QB in Falcons history, and never having a losing season as a starter, doesn’t matter to them as much as their sick traditional values. Leave these morons to themselves, and let’s discuss the Falcons with a 21st century mentality.

By Bingo Starr

December 14, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

” Lets see him win some games that matter and take this team to the super bowl then you will shut me up but until then you don’t have an argument. “

But we do have an argument cause Peyton has no rings either.

By dirtie birdie

December 14, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

FalconsFan: you are a fool. not everyone agrees with you saying that vick is not a QB. if he wasn’t a QB, then how did they go 38-25-1 and win 2 playoff games.

as for you boots, still love you, but i have noticed that all you do is try to attack other people’s opinions while offering no opinions and solutions of your own. you are correct that they are 15-14, 9-12 during the recent trend and i am not ignoring that. but for some reason you do not realize that there has been a tremendous dropoff in the quality of the supporting cast that surrounds the guys reeves brought in to this team. all of the credit does not go to vick and neither does all of the blame. I think the core guys brought in during the Reeves are from Vick to Dunn to Crump to Finneran to Brooking to Kerney have all proven that they can win when given the necessary supporting talent. all of those guys have proven that. Hell, the coaching staff for all of their faults have proven that as well - they did go to the conference championship game with Vick and his Reevs buddies as well - so I can not just kill Mora and his boys - they deserve some of those kudos as well - More and friends and Vick and his Reeves buddies have proven to this very fan that when given the necessary supporting talents surrounding the core Reeves guys, that they can win a whole bunch of games. Unfortunately, however, Arthur and McKay have made some very dumb moves getting rid of key supporting players, bad draft picks, bad trades, and trading and signing underperforming injury prone guys. The problem with the Falcons should be self-evident to everyone: THIS IS A MCKAY AND BLANK CREATED PROBLEM. THIS IS NOT A VICK OR MORA PROBLEM. THIS IS NOT A COACHING PROBLEM. THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE PERFORMANCE WITH ANY OF THE CORE GUYS WHO BROUGHT US TO THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME JUST 2 YEARS AGO. THIS IS QUITE SIMPLY STATED A PERSONNEL PROBLEM. THEY SIMPLY NO LONGER HAVE THE NECESSARY SUPPORTING CASE ASSISTING THE CORE REEVES GUYS AND THE COACHES.

if you do not think it is a personnel problem, you are sadly mistaken. WHAT MAKES IT SO OBVIOUS THAT THE PROBLEMS OF THE FALCONS ARE PERSONNEL PROBLEMS ARE THE SPECIAL TEAMS. 2 YEARS AGO, THEY HAD A BONA FIDE KICKASS SPECIAL TEAMS UNIT LED BY A GUY WHO WAS REPORTED TO BE ONE OF THE TOP 5 SPECIAL TEAMS COACHES IN THE LEAGUE. HELL, HE IS DAN REEVES’ SON IN LAW FOR CHRISSAKES. THAT TELLS YOU RIGHT THERE THAT ARTHUR THOUGHT THAT HE WAS A GOOD ENOUGH SPECIAL TEAMS COACH THAT HE JUST ABSOLUTELY NEEDED TO BE THE ONLY HOLDOVER FROM THE REEVES REGIME - EVEN THOUGH HE IS ACTUALLY RELATED TO REEVES. BUT 2 YEARS AGO, WE HAD A DOMINANT SPECIAL TEAMS UNIT. LAST YEAR, THERE WAS SLIPPAGE. THIS YEAR, THEY HAVE BEEN A PRETTY BAD SPECIAL TEAMS UNIT. WHY? BECAUSE JUST THINK FOR A SECOND ABOUT WHO PLAYS SPECIAL TEAMS - NOT STARS - NOT SUPERSTARS - NOT THE CORE REEVES GUYS - NOPE - SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYERS ARE SUPPORTING CAST GUYS - BENCH DEPTH GUYS - OBVIOUSLY TO ME THE SLIPPAGE IN THE SPECIAL TEAMS MAKES IT OBVIOUS THAT THE SUPPORTING CASE JUST IS NOT THAT GOOD AT ALL AND IS NOWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS THE GUYS WHO REEVES PROVIDED US BEFORE THE MCKAY TALENT EROSION STARTED DUE TO THE MCKAY TALENT TINKERING.

but you all can continue to ignore that the biggest problem with this team is McKay and Blank. Blaming them would require all of you to dig a little deeper instead of being lazy and picking on cheap easy targets like Vick, Mora, Knapp, and the rest of the coaching staff.

and boots you predicted during the preseason: after they fell to 5-6, i finally had to break down and ask Dan Reeves who his heart doctor is so that i could get myself some help - i nearly had a stroke. hopefully the medication will help because i think i might die with a heart attack on saturday at 11:30 p.m. right there in the Dome parking lot

By dirtie birdie

December 14, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

JP: Are you 13 years old?

By T-Town Dawg

December 14, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

dirtybird, I didn’t go to UGA, but I am a huge fan. Shockley was a career back up because he played behind one of the best college qb’s ever. In his only year as a starter, he performed extremely well. As for Vick, I don’t think he is as good now as he was in his second year in the league. Again, his receivers have been terrible this year, but he has not progressed as a qb. As for the turnovers, they are part of the game. All the players, even the great ones, commit turnovers. I just want to see Vick protect the ball better. You are taught from Pee Wee leagues on up to carry the ball in a way that the hand and the bend of the arm secure the ball. Only sand lot players tote the ball loosely in their hand like Mike. If he takes a major shot and fumbles, I’ll understand. If he knocks the ball out with his own knee two weeks in a row because he will not secure it, then that is a problem. The D has been bad, but what does that have to do with Vick’s ability as a qb? Nothing. Last, but not least, how did Elway succeed behind 3rd and 4th round offensive linemen that played this same technique that is taught to our O-line?

By T-Town Dawg

December 14, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Peyton fan, What was his excuse the last few years when he choked at New England every year? He can’t take the heat of a big game. Madden King, Hasselback is playing great at qb, why would anyone want to move him to WR. Who said move Seneca Wallace or Vince Young to WR? Vince Young is better than Vick right now. I would like to move him to the ATL. Seneca Wallace could start for many teams right now. I think that maybe you are the real racist here. You just don’t like whitey hatin on your boy Vick, even if he is not that great. Ken Strickland, beleive it or not, race doesn’t have anything to do with my argument. I think DJ would be a better option than Vick right now. I would also choose Vince Young, Carson Palmer, Tom Brady, Tony Romo, Drew Brees, Troy Smith or Steve McNair over Vick. Unfortunately, none of them play for the Falcons, only DJ.

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

T-Town Dog,

Elway didn’t succeed until he was in his 30’s so if that is your measuring stick then we have quite a long time before Vick can be measured.

BTW, how is the best college QB ever doing in the pros these days?

Vick needs to protect the ball better, no doubt about it. However, only once he crosses the line of scrimmage. Behind the line he needs to play like he does so that he can run or pass. The play where he knocked the ball out of his hands with his knee was absolutely awful. Vick was obviously tired from running the play before and a different play or a timeout should have been called. That’s on the coaches AND Vick to recognize.

So if a player is putting up worse numbers than he was with a different squad and coaching staff, do you not contribute any of that to the squad and coaching staff?

and lastly, on a scale of one to ten, how would you rate the Falcons pass protection, coaching staff, and defensive secondary?

Is Vick supposed to carry the weight of the entire team? he’s doing his part. If we had 22 Mike Vick’s playing, we would be in good shape.

By GREG

December 14, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

OR DID SCHAUB GIVE VICK THE REACH A ROUND?

By GREG

December 14, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

YEAH DIRTYBIRD!….YOU REALLY KNOW TEAM FOOTBALL!..LOL!!!!!!!….ARE THERE MORE BLACKS THAN WHITES IN PRO JOKE FOOTBALL?..QB POSITION DOESN’T TAKE THE MOST TALENTED PLAYER ON THE TEAM,NORMALLY IT’S A WHITE AVERAGE TALENTED PLAYER!…UNDERSTAND THE GAME!!!!

By T-Town Dawg

December 14, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

Birddawg,

 Elway went to the Super Bowl @ ages 26, 27 and 29, and then two more trips in his thirties. He won two of those five. I would say that he was was very successful even before his thirties. The last two, which were wins, were behind an Alex Gibbs o-line. I never said that Greene was THE best college qb ever, but one of the best. There are many top ranked college athletes that never make it in the pro's. It is a different game. Vick was also a good college qb, but a good pro qb. On the Vick fumble, the "he was tired" excuse is just that, a tired excuse. He has never protected the ball. That fact cannot be disputed. What of the other fumble off of his leg the week before? As for my ratings, here goes: Pass protection, 5--- coaching staff, 5---- secondary, 3, even though I still don't see what the secondary has to do with Vick's ability at qb.

By T-Town Dawg

December 14, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

Birddawg, My last post got screwed up, so I’ll try again. Elway went to the Super Bowl at ages 26, 27 and 29 and then twice more in his 30’s. He won the last two behind an Alex Gibbs line, which is what Vick plays behind. I never said that Greene was the best college qb ever, but one of the best. There have been many college superstars who did not succeed in the NFL. Vick was an awesome qb at VT, but not in ATL. The “tired from the last play” excuse is just that, a tired excuse. He has never protected the ball. What about the other fumble off of his leg the week before? I suppose he was tired then too. Rating the team goes like this: O-line,5 Coaches,5 Secondary,2, although I still don’t see what the secondary has to do with Vick’s inability at qb.

By JP

December 14, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

Like I said earlier, we will be average until somebody makes vick accountable like everybody else. The coaches, oline, receivers are all the scapecoats in this mess. We are not winning a super bowl get it through your heads. And for these coaches to be so terrible they took us to the nfc championship game a few years ago so they aint that bad. Its just everybody wants to take the blame off #7. All he does is sell damn tickets thats it. Win some damn games. Oh and dirtiebirdie answer my question, who are the titans receivers? They are garbage also. At this point vince young is playing better. Am I right or wrong

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

“YEAH DIRTYBIRD!….YOU REALLY KNOW TEAM FOOTBALL!..LOL!!!!!!!….ARE THERE MORE BLACKS THAN WHITES IN PRO JOKE FOOTBALL?..QB POSITION DOESN’T TAKE THE MOST TALENTED PLAYER ON THE TEAM,NORMALLY IT’S A WHITE AVERAGE TALENTED PLAYER!…UNDERSTAND THE GAME!!!!”

What? Understand the English language or get someone to type for you.

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

The secondary has nothing to do with Vick’s play. However it has ALOT to do wtih the overall assessment of this team. Those of you who think that getting rid of Vick will all of the sudden solve all of our TEAM problems are just stupid.

Vick needs to protect the ball. Everybody knows that. So does he. That’s why he hasn’t turned the ball over in 4 games.

Let me ask you this now. What kind of coach says “I’m not going to ask Mike Vick to protect the ball. You have to take the good with the bad”? Why do we even have a coach if we just take the good with the bad?

Everyone on the team should be held accountable for their mistakes. Vick included. But trading Vick is one of the stupidest ideas ever. It simply isn’t realistic. The guy is the winningest QB in Falcons history. That’s how bad this Franchise is, and you want to run the one guy out of town who can put up some wins and fill the dome with excitement. It’s really stupid. Really really stupid.

By Steve T

December 14, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

You guys are going to find out the Shockley is not as good as you think. I watched him at UGA. I was kinda of shocked to see that he did not have a strong arm. There were certain passes he threw that would have been a pick in the NFL.

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

JP,

You are wrong. Let’s do a little comparison between Vince Young and Mike Vick.

Vince Young: Completion% 51.7 YPA-5.96 10 TD’s 11 INT’s QB rating 65.7 458 Yards Rushing Tennesse Offense ranked #24 in the league

Mike Vick: Completion%51.8 YPA-6.2 15 TD’s 10 INT’s QB rating-73.6 934 yards rushing Atlanta Offense ranked #10 in the league.

Vince Young is not beating Mike Vick in even ONE category!!!!

Tennessee does have an excellent coach though.

NEXT!!!!!!!

By Bingo Starr

December 14, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

” Okay he can run, but its more to playing qb than running around. Right now, hell vince young has played a better qb than vick. And who are his receivers? Now i’ll give you that the oline is garbage and the receivers are suspect but vick aint great his damn self.”

How many Maurice (Mo) Ronalds (Ron) are there in this town?

If you expect Vick to look good behind a bad pass blocking offensive line with timid receivers then obviously you don’t agree that football is the ultimate team sport. If that is the case then you don’t need to be taken seriously.

By t-towndawg

December 14, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

If I didn’t know better, I’d swear you were Arthur Blank in disguise. All you care about is winning a few games and filling up seats? Screw the play offs and the Super Bowl, just fill the seats and pad Mr. Blank’s pockets. Sorry Birddawg, I want to support a team that cares about winning first. The seats will stay full if we could only win on a regular basis. Conference Champ. one year, 8-8 the next sucks. And for six years, we have had to take the good with the bad. Vick has carried the ball like a loaf of bread since he got here. As far as being held accountable, that’s all I ask. All these idiots on here that think Vick is just a product of his environment are not holding him accountable. THey are making excuses for him. Let’s face the whole truth, this is not a very good Falcon team right now, from the coaches to the qb to the last guying sitting on the end of the bench. All of you Vick lovers need to realize that Vick is not the only good player on this team, but instead, he is one of the many bad ones.

By Bingo Starr

December 14, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

I do agree that the coaching staff needs to reside in Michael Vick’s behind on his fumbling problem until it get’s corrected. I’m also not too thrilled about seeing Mora kiss Vick on the helmet either. But I also understand that Vick is progressing at quarterback and really, really want to see him with a competent supporting cast.

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

T-Town Dawg,

First of all my name is Dirrtybird, not Birddawg. 2 R’s Thanks for you attention to detail. Filling seats is not all that I care about, but there is this thing called REALITY. Owners are businessmen and their idea of winning is selling out stadiums. It’s sad to think that you’re actually one of those people that believes that the Falcons would be headed to the promise land if it wasn’t for Vick. The Falcons are a decent team with Vick and the doormat of the NFL without him. He is not god or Superman, but he has won more games than any other Falcons QB. How do you explain that? How? Why do other players and coaches vote him to the Pro Bowl? If every player gave as much as Vick did during the games then we would be in a much better position. Our offense is ranked #10 in the league. That’s very respectable considering the obstacles we have faced this year in inconsistency. We have an awful Offensive line. Do we at least agree that a QB needs decent protection in order to put up solid numbers on a consistent basis? Have you ever seen receivers drop as many balls as the Falcons WR’s have this year? How many times have you seen Deangelo Hall get burned for a TD this year? Did you see the hail mary pass at the end of the half against New Orleans? How the f*ck do you blame that on Vick. Vick is doing his part. Give the man some pass protection, experienced coaches, and a halfway decent defense and we’ll be fine. Atlanta’s offense is ranked #10 in the league, while their defense is ranked #21. How do you skew that to blame Vick? I’m sure you’ll find a way.

By Ken Strickland

December 14, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

JP, your attempt to employ logic, to justify your desire to jettison Vick, was exploded in your last post. You stated the following:”AND FOR THESE COACHES TO BE SO TERRIBLE THEY TOOK US TO THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME A FEW AGO SO THAT AIN’T THAT BAD”. JP, who in the hell do you think was the QB of that team? Why do you give credit to the coaching staff for accomplishing that feat, but give no acknowledgement to the players, especially the Probowl QB, MVick.

You criticize anybody that attempts to place total blame for the Falcons problems anywhere but on Vick. You insist it’s Vick’s fault our REC’s lead the NFL in dropped passes, especially TD passes. You also blame Vick for our low ranking pass and rushing DEF. And I guess all of us have to believe Vick is responsible for all of our injuries and special teams breakdown.

YOU, AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU, ARE FAR MORE STUPID THAN THOSE YOU CLAIM WANT TO TAKE THE BLAME OFF #7. You are manufactoring unjustified excuses to get rid of Vick for reasons that have little, if anything, to do with football.

By Dano

December 14, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

What a joke…..hype at it’s worst…trying to get the Cowboys to bite on the Vick/Schaub “bait.” If Mora ever did that, it would prove beyond a shadow how stupid he is….MV7 isn’t built for a RB….even MV7 knows that. Why do you think his running style changed so much this year…….

Hey dirtie birdie,

The Falcons have the talent….just the wrong Head Coach……Mora benefitted by the work Reeves did in his early winning, but slowly but surely has messed up a good thing……Blank is clueless…..just like you…..

By Tom Pridemore

December 14, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

In the 90’s to present the superbowl MVP has been a qb only 8 times. So winning a superbowl is not an individual award it is a team award. So stop saying that you have to win a superbowl in order to be considered a good qb. Here is a list of all the great superbowl winning qbs: Brad Johnson: Won a Superbowl Tom Brady: Won a Superbowl Ben Rothlisberger: Won a Superbowl Brett Farve: Won a Superbowl Kurt Warner: Won a Superbowl Payton Manning: Has not won a Superbowl Carson Palmer: Has not won a Superbowl Tony Romo: Has not won a Superbowl Drew Brees: Has not won a Superbowl Steve McNair: Has not won a Superbowl Donovan McNabb: Has not won a Superbowl Ely Manning: Has not won a Superbowl Jake Delhome: Has not won a Superbowl Matt Hasselback:Has not won a Superbowl

Do I need to keep going???? That is a stupid arguement.

By dirrtybird

December 14, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Dan Marino has not won a superbowl. Matt Schaub has not won a superbowl. DJ Shockley has not won a superbowl. Doug Johnson has not won a superbowl. Jim Mora has not won a superbowl.

By Tom Pridemore

December 14, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

If all the people in this blog can see how good Matt is why hasn’t ONE NFL came to the Falcons offering a 1st or a 2nd round pick? Why? Why? Just answer that question for me. Why can’t the rest of the NFL Owners, GMs and Coaches see how great Matt? WHY? WHY?

By gg

December 14, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

hey madden king you stupid a*, what about matt jones with jacksonville. a white qb converted to a wr-once again the race card has to brought up-you guys just can’t let that go. you don’t know stupid you all sound when you make everything a racial problem. think about it-i mean-putting hasselback at rb vs. vick at running back-are you really that stupid or just looking for some attention?

By Dano

December 14, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

Hey Dirrtybird, You wrote: “Our offense is ranked #10 in the league. That’s very respectable considering the obstacles we have faced this year in inconsistency.” RANKED #10…..FOR TOTAL YARDS!!!! 2570 RUSHING YARDS…..GREAT???? WELL, THE COLTS ONLY HAVE 1419 RUSHING YARDS, BUT HAS SCORED 16 RUSHING TDs TO THE FALCONS 9 TDs. YOU ALSO WROTE: “defense is ranked #21” SOOOOOOOO WHAT!!!!! THE FALCONS DEFENSE HAS GIVEN UP 28 TDs…THE COLTS HAVE GIVEN UP 36…….RANK MEANS SQUAT!!!!! IF YOU WANT TO DEFEND VICK AND THE FALCONS, YOU ARE DOING A LOUSY JOB……MR. GUMP SAID “STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!!” I’LL SAY IT AGAIN….MORA AND COMPANY DON’T HAVE A CLUE…..VICK HAS GREAT POTENTIAL, BUT THIS YEAR HE IS GOING BACKWARD……FALCONS HAVE THE TALENT. THEY NEED THE HEAD COACH TO TURN THAT TALENT INTO A TEAM!!!!

By Dano

December 14, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Madden King,

I see you have not spoken to Oprah and Dr. Phil yet….you need help brotha!!!!

By San Antonio Falcon

December 14, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

VICK AT RB!!!!HECK I was thinking VICK at CB or Safety. That is where we are going to need the help against Dallas. Tony Romo is going to light us up with Glenn and Owens. You guys have not seen the bruising backfield of Barber and Jones for the Boys along with the Massive offensive line, the type that gives our tiny line problems, except big Grady of course.

By 2 legit

December 14, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

Great Idea and let’s line up Morten Anderson at nose tackle!!!! Freakin idiots What else do you guys want from Vick? He is giving up his body week in and week out, cut him some slack. Have we forgoten the old days of being door mats year in year out. We will go as far as Vick’s legs and arms take us as a quarterback.

By LoPro25

December 14, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

VICK IS NOT A RUNNING BACK. PERIOD He’s a QB who can make plays with his feet. He couldn’t run between the tackles, and everybody knows that. So stop being so naive about it.