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If Knapp goes, what’s next for offense?

Should Falcons offensive coordinator Greg Knapp land the Stanford job, the team’s much-criticized offense will be at a crossroads.

Knapp has been unflappable in the face of some downright scathing criticisms. Stanford would be getting one of the nicest folks to ever coach in the NFL.

Knapp, who was an offensive coordinator in San Francisco from 2001 to 2003, had a difficult assignment in forging an avant garde offense to fit the distinctive talents of Michael Vick. Because the Falcons’ attack is not a cookie-cutter NFL offense and is a bit out of the norm, with its high school-styled bootlegs and college-styled misdirection runs, Knapp was going to be blasted no matter how they performed.

Folks don’t like change.

(You oldheads remember when Marv Levy installed the Wing-T - really, it was a double-wing - in Kansas City in 1978 to keep his porous defense off the field. An uproar ensued.) Knapp could just line up an I-formation and run some regular old attack. But he had to try some new and different philosophies to suit Vick’s talent.

Some of it has worked, some of it has not.

At this point, they know what works (running plays; passes to Crumpler) and what doesn’t (passes on third-and-1 when you’re the top running team; not running the ball inside the 5).

If Knapp should go to Palo Alto to do battle against Pete Carroll and USC and Karl Dorrell and UCLA, which direction should the Falcons go with their offensive scheme?

Here are a couple of options:

1: Stay the course and keep Knapp’s hybrid West Coast system.

2: Just add some more vertical routes and better pass protection.

3: Bring in an outsider like Tennessee’s Norm Chow or former Giants coach Jim Fassel.

4: Find Barry Switzer and have him put in the old Oklahoma wishbone attack.

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By mo

December 12, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

How about,

Steal Mike Martz from the Lions? Or, take a good QB with some coaching skills and/or experience and make him an Offensive Coordinator.

Heck, what about a college head coach?

By dirrtybird

December 12, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Give Musgrave a shot to run the offense.

Get rid of Gibbs and get some pass protection.

Take advantage of Vick’s arm strength(vertical routes)

Send Stanford a ‘Thank You’ card after every Falcons win from now on.

By Poor McKay

December 12, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

If Alex Gibbs gets to call the shots next year (as has been suggested he has in the past), then it begins and ends with him. But if he also leaves this team (officially), then I would start with tweaking the current system next season by adding the vertical routes and Reggie Bush-type plays for Norwood and Dunn. Then over time, I would probably slowly transition to a more traditional scheme like we saw with Dan Reeves (who knew that he was the gold standard?)

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

December 12, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

WHAT NEXT?….ONE WORD….SUCCESS!

By Steve

December 12, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

Maybe it’s time that Knapp moved on. I believe the West Coast O will work with something other than a “mini” OL. The “beef” is working better for the middle of the DL and it’s time the OL got bigger. SD, Sea, and KC have big lines and look at how they move the ball on the ground. Of course the RB helps, too.
Give Vick time to throw and there will be better results in the passing game and Dunn and Norwood will have bigger holes to run through. More time to throw and bigger holes=more offense. More offense=more points and more points=more wins.
If Knapp stays then “beef” up the OL and give Vick time to do his magic. Look at what V. Young is now doing for the Titans. BEEF UP THE OL!

By FLbird

December 12, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

All thank you cards can be sent directly to the athletic director at Stanford.
Now all we need to do is acutally find some receivers who can do what they get paid for. This would be the first in a ncessary couple of steps. Next Ed can go too !

By Rick

December 12, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Na-Na-Na-Na Na-Na-Na-Na Hey-Hey … Goodbye!!

By JP

December 12, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

Look fellas the system will stay the same just the playcaller will be gone. I don’t think the running game will change because it is highly successful and the passing game WILL NOT BE BETTER either because #7 aint steve young. I don’t want musgrave either because he lost his job in jacksonville so I think we need to go throw some money at Norm Chow and steal him away from the titans. We know this man can coach offense. Lets get him in here and let him have total control over the offense and see what he can do.

By Jonthan Ganz

December 12, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

I hope he goes and takes Billy Knight with him.

By mo

December 12, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

I WANT NORM CHOW… NOW!!!

Read this quote about how he coached Vince Young in Tennessee:

Chow agrees: “Sometimes the problem with coaches is that we spend all this time thinking about ideas that we want to try. I hear people talking about how they run this system or that system. I believe in letting the kid do his thing. When Vince comes to me with a play he likes, I put it in the game plan. That way he feels like he has some ownership of the process.”

Can I get an AMEN?!

By T.P.

December 12, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this

What has Greg Knapp done in the NFL to even get considered for a head coaching job in college or at the high school level?

Jim Mora just called one of his connections to find his “buddy” a job so he didn’t have to fire him in January!!

By mo

December 12, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

This is a quote on CNNSI.com from columnist Jeffrey Chadiha talking about coaching young QBs from on Offensive Coordinator’s perspective. If you get the chance, please go read it for yourself. It’s EXACTLY what many people have been trying to say for the longest, and accentuates the problems that we have with our own OC.

For instance, this is a quote from the column:

When it comes to making life easier on young quarterbacks, Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome says the best predictor of success is offensive line play. He says the Titans are winning with Young because their offensive line has matured and Tennessee has found a way to run the ball consistently. There’s a lot of truth to that. But there’s also something to be said for modifying an offense so it magnifies a player’s skills. I think about Atlanta’s Michael Vick and wonder if every play he runs should be straight improv. That’s what it eventually becomes in the end, even though the Falcons have added some college-style plays so that he feels more comfortable.

What the Bills and Titans realize is that developing a young quarterback comes down to how quickly you can make that player comfortable. Some coaches don’t get that. Former Raiders offensive coordinator Tom Walsh wouldn’t change anything about his offense when his second-year quarterback, Andrew Walter, complained about the system a few weeks ago. The Detroit Lions spent four frustrating years trying to turn Joey Harrington into a West Coast Offense quarterback and now he’s playing his best ball in Miami. There’s also the tale of David Carr, who’s shown far more progress under coach Gary Kubiak than he did in four years under former coordinator Chris Palmer, who was intent on running long-developing passing plays behind a suspect offensive line during most of his tenure.

Can I get another AMEN!

By Barry

December 12, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

Hey Y’all:

I know everybody has out there wants to know “What will the Falcons offensive be without Gregg Knapp?”. Well this one is hard to say, but I believe they will be better. I say better because from what knapps explains about his offense is that it is so rigid you cannot audible from it. From an organizational philosophy standpoint, this cannot work in today’s NFL. You need to have a group that can make transitional changes on the move when the opposition adjust to something you are going to do that they seen on films. Just running a play straight into what they are prepared to stop is beyond me. Even with potential proper execution. Belive me the defenses have put in extra wrinkles to really stop what they see you excell with on film. Holding this philosophy this long in his career without considering making changes along this line, shows no creativity. Therefore, any new offensive coordinator, in house or out, would have to consider adding audibles to the offense so that the quarterback can be flexible and exercise some creativity during games. Offensive coordinator should be open minded and design creative plays. This includes adding audibles to your offensive system. No matter what system that is. This is the failing of the current system. It has no audible and also has no creative down field pass plays instituted in it. And that is another story. Any new offensive coordinator can do better than this, if he is creative and has an open mind. Do not take this personal Knapp, but I am calling it as I see it. We need audibles and longer passing plays instituted in the offense. You do not have it. Many successful offensive coordinators in the league di I see it every Sunday. I love the FALCONS. Since you are with us now, get creative and let’s play some football!!!!!

SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! This is a SECRET among us Falcon fans. Don’t Tell Nobody!!!!!

Ringold

By JP

December 12, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

T.P. thats ignorant. The man has built himself a resume in this league. Whether good or bad he has one. I just don’t think that he was ready to coach a guy with #7 skill sets. #7 has very different abilities and knapp brought a system that fit the back up #8. I like knapp, I just don’t think he is the man for this job in atlanta.

By nativefalcon

December 12, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

Give him a bonus to leave, :) GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO please

By Cairo

December 12, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

SEE YA!!! Who will miss him because the opposing defenses in the league. I hope Arthur Blank will personally fly him out there for the interview.

By keeping it real!

December 12, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

GOOD BY GREGG KNAPP. Get the best and know that you got a football man to run this offense. Please throw in Alex Gibb with Gregg Knapp to be gone! Don’t get any more smoke blower!!!! I like Norm Chow he would be great! But please change the scheme. Our lineman are to small!

By This gets old

December 12, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

I doubt that he’s in Atlanta next season anyway. We haven’t had a TD on an opening drive this season (not that the defense has played well either)

It’s not the play calling per se but it’s the philosophy. It’s a play it safe offense and it doesn’t attack the defense. Three years in this offense and honestly can the Falcons run an effective screen pass?

Many 3rd and long plays a lot of the WR’s run patterns a yard or two short of the first down which is fine if you’ve got guys that you can hit on the move. RAC yards are missing in this offense.

It’s obvious that we’re a running team but when it’s really time to commit to the run he bails out on it and not just this season.

Mark my words, in the last game in Philly which is probably for that last playoff spot, the Falcons will abandon the run.

Which is fine if you really work on your passing game. The Falcons don’t do that.

Stanford or not he’s gone probably along with Mora. The first drive last week had to be, please god, the end. Moving the ball, offense starting to get in rythmn, 3rd and 1 - throw a deep incompletion. See ya’

By Jaymes Graham

December 12, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this

I believe that there is enough blame to go around. It is more than just the Offensive Coordinator. Better execution by the offense is needed regardless of who is calling the plays! JG Falcon for life

By Jaymes Graham

December 12, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

The problem is just not all the coordinators fault. Execution is the problem. JG

By Dawgs2006

December 12, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

Hit the road, Jack, and don’t you come back. No more, no more, no more!

Ray Charles

By kew

December 12, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

DANG !!! HE HASN’T LEFT YET?

By Chris

December 12, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Let him go.. please hire him today…

By Joe Mama

December 12, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

Yes, go, please. Now. Hurry.

By Mike Vick

December 12, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

As id says in mies commercal,

Go, dhere aint nothin stoppin ya.

By mountain_jim

December 12, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

I thought Musgrave would be an ok interim replacement if the Falcons canned Knapp during this season, but based on criticisms of his style and playcalling at previous stops he is not the right OC for next year.

Knapp’s unwillingness to give the QB flexibility at the line to audible, his lack of use of screens and fullback passes, his poor pass routes design, his easy-to-diagnose plays from formations scheme, inability to adjust and attack 8 and 9 men fronts, and his horrible playcalling all add up to we will be better when he is gone, no matter who replaces him I say.

By ICEMAN

December 12, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

JG,

Its kind of hard to execute when the plays are being drawn up by an insane person. Greg “take a” Knapp needs to go so that a professional offensive expert can step in.

By Joshua Barlowe

December 12, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

I hope someone from Stanford isn’t reading this blog. If so we’re going to scare them away.

By GREG

December 12, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

yeah maybe……ATLANTA’S QB’S THE PROBLEM!!!!!!IT’S SO FUNNY HOW ATLANTA AND THE SPORTS WORLD DEFEND THE IDIOT!!!!!TWO WINS OVER SUCKY OPPENENTS!!!!!MICHEAL VICK IS A HUGE JOKE!!!!

By BirdDawg

December 12, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

You’ve got to be kidding me, Orlando!

Some of the things he’s done hasn’t worked?

Everthing he’s done to Michael Vick has been wrong.

Chaining him to a system which doesn’t fit his strengths, instead of daring to think outside the box from the get go, and doing what Jon Gruden said he would do if he had Vick, and that’s abandon everything you know, and design the Michael Vick Offense.

Refusing to put in a system of audibles, so when Vick see 7 guys coming in on a blitz, he doesn’t have to take a 5 step drop from under center behind that CRAPPY offensive line and get killed by the pass rush.

Being the worst in-game playcalling OC in the NFL. Refusing to make half-time adjustments.

Refusing to use Griffith and Dunn in the passing game to be an outlet for Vick if he gets into trouble behind that CRAPPY offensive line.

And I don’t care how nice the guy is, Orlando. He sucks. And he’s never been held accoutable by you or Steve for his absolute idiocy for not letting his QBs audible at the line.

He refuses to put this offense in the best chance for it to succeed, and you guys should be killing him for this, no matter how nice a guy he is.

Why is it in coaching where guys can be nice and hold on to a job? If Greg Knapp worked at any other job as a supervisor, and his most important assets performed that poorly, or his charged under his supervision regressed in their performance from their time spent under the guy you replaced, then you @$$ would be fired.

Why does Knapp get a pass from you and Steve?

I just don’t get it. The columnists at this paper have the cajones to call out Knapp, but you guys, the guys covering the team, should be asking the tough questions.

They do it in New York and Chicago and Washington DC without fear of reprisal from the teams they cover… so why don’t any of the beat writers in Atlanta do this?

SOme freaking accountability is all we, your readers, ask for.

Hold Greg Knapp accountable for his immense failures.

Stop telling us he’s a nice guy. Or that some of the things he’s tried here haven’t worked out so well.

The man is an abject failure as an NFL OC. He was given the opportunity to help the single greatest talent in NFL history succeed. All he had to do was not get in the way. Instead, he saddled Vick with an offense which does not fit, and with an Offensive Line which is the worst unit in the NFL. And I don’t give a damn about their run blocking ability.

They don’t run block.

They trip and cheat. My grandmother can do that.

So there you go, Orlando. There is the unvarneshed, no bull$h!t truth about Knapp.

The sooner he leaves… the better!

By singletary

December 12, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Please no Jim Fossel. He was run out of Baltimore as OC because he kept calling to get a head coaching job instead of watching tape to help the Ravens win. Truly tacky.

I keep going back to the Gruden quote “if I had Michael Vick, I’d trash the playbook and write it for him.” He is a unique talent… so find an out-of-the-box (or at least not rigidly defined WC-driven) OC.

Vick has put in some touch throws this year, but the OL and the WIDEs (can’t call ‘em receivers: WILL INEVITABLY DROP EVERYTHING) need to improve like my man Ashley Lelie in the past game.

We have the basics (except for a bruising back for inside the 20 to punch it in.) Now we just need the commitment to win and coaches who are not straitjacketed by their own preconceptions.

By GREG

December 12, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

ATLANTA WILL ALWAYS RIDE THE SHOULDERS OF A PLAYER!!!!THIS TIME THEY PICKED A BRAINLESS QB!!!!YEARS AGO NEON DEON SANDERS!!!!LOL!!!!!!!ELVIS HAD RESERVED SEATS IN THE GLANVILLE DAYS!!!!!THINGS WILL NEVER CHANGE IN THE WORST SPORTS CITY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!JIM MORA WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT DADDY WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE END!!!

By BATMAN

December 12, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

“Are you serious???” You mean that the Stanford search group has discovered Gregg Knapp and is considering “him” for a head coaching job??? “I really can’t believe this folks, is this a real joke? What games were they watching to consider such a choice???”What????” What is the world coming to?? My kid will not be going to Stanford in the future. Is this some kind of plot to get him from the Falcons in a nice way….< Well O.K. I’m all for it then, I still cannot believe it. Who is this search group for Stanford?? Show yourselves, they must be Nerds…or some group who does not value the game of Football.

By ICEMAN

December 12, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

The entire coaching staff needs to change. We need a big time offensive minded winner.

By There Is A God !

December 12, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

Please Go Knapp, and take Moron with you.

I’d like to see Defensive Coordinator of Ga. Tech come here.

By ByErS

December 12, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

LISTEN

We have the most electric man in the NFL Bing in anyother OC…Knapp had his chance but he couldent contain Superman.. when it gets close to the playoffs there isnt anoher man behind center i would rather have then Mike Vick Step1 Our recivers need to catch the ball they get paid millions to do what teenagers do daily in the back yard sure its the nfl but when you drop wide open passes…. somethings wrong KUTOS to jenkins and Ashley they both did better on sunday our defense is out on the field too long

2.we need to capitalise in the REDZONE, fieldgoals are great but 6 points will win you ballgames

  1. Let Vick Be Vick…. Enough said

4.utlilize Norwood,Dunn,and Griffith more with better play calling NEW O.C.

  1. We as fans need to support and rally behind them this is CRUNCH time and i beileve in Mike…Do You??

By Alex

December 12, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

I’ll be parking the U-hal infront of Knapp’s house…he has to go. He has done nothing to help Michael Vick and the offense improve, and the fact that the team leads the league in rushing is misleading b/c you add all of Vick’s yards when he scrambles, which is not by design!

The WR are regressing, and so is Vick. All under the watchful eye of let me take a nap, Greg!

All of these football minds, like Gruden and others say that the offense should be designed around the personnel you have! Knapp disagrees…let’s hope Standord hires him! Good riddance! Get an O.C. like Norm Chow!

By ICEMAN

December 12, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

GREG,

Either you just want attention, or you are the most intellectually deprived virus that has ever tunneled its way to these blogs. Everyone present has had their IQ dropped after having been exposed to your cerebrum challenged words!!

The Iceman has spoken.

By T.P.

December 12, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

J.P. speaking of ignorant statements, here’s yours.. The man has built himself a resume in this league. Whether good or bad he has one. Excuse me, you’re saying even if the man has a “BAD” resume, it’s okay to hire him?? I don’t give a damn if his resume has 50 pages of league experience..IF YOU SUCK..YOU SUCK!!

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to build an offense suitable for Mike Vick’s skills…try sitting down with him and asking him what he’s comfortable doing like Dan Reeves did…try getting at least a decent O-line to pass block for him…..finally try getting a free agent pro-bowl receiver that can catch a ball that hits him in the chest or hands!!

I don’t think Norm Chow was “ready” to coach a player with Vince Young’s skill set but he’s smart enough to figure it out!!

Greg Knapp do you need any help packing and take the O-line coach with you. As a matter of fact, take the ENTIRE offensive coaching staff with you along with the secondary coach!!

By GREG

December 12, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this

LOL!!!!!!!!!!MICHEAL VICK!!!!!THE FALCONS WILL ALWAYS SUCK THE CRAP OFF TOILETS!!!!!!ALL I’VE TO SAY IS!!!!!HOW LONG HAS THE SO-CALLED SUPER STAR BEEN IN THE LEAGUE???LOOK AROUND THE LEAGUE AT OTHER TRUE PROFESSIONAL TEAMS!!!!!THEN LOOK AT THE FALCONS WITH THERE PRO BOWL QB MACHINE!!!!LOL!!!!!!!DOES ELVIS STILL HAVE SEATS AT DEON’S HOUSE???PRIME TIME!!!!

By Arthur Blank

December 12, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

Greg - Stick around, don’t take the Stanford job, you’re going big places with this organization, the way I see it, I’m going to fire Jim Moron, and promote you to head coach, I want you to then hire Dan Henning as offensive coordinator, and Leeman Bennett as Special Teams coach, and Marion Campbell as Defensive Coordinator and ….(whoa ! what the hell) what a nightmare that was…

Hello Stanford, I’ve give you 50% share in Home Depot to hire Knapp today.

By Famuan

December 12, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this

I’ve got boxes and lots of packing tape!!

By GREG

December 12, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

LOL!!!!!ATLANTA!!!

By Grey Hound

December 12, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

All Aboard ! Greg Knapp, on behalf of Falcon fans, we are giving you a complementary bus ticket for 3, please offer these tickets to Jim Moron, Roddy White.

By Heath

December 12, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Bring in June Jones and the run-n-shoot. They have been lighting it up at Hawaii. I think it would be a great fit for Vick.

The best advice I could give the Falcons is to do whatever it takes to help Knapp get the job at Stanford. His philosophy of not allowing a quarterback to audible is absolutely the worst I have ever heard!

By Parker Brother

December 12, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

We are the makers of Monolopy. We normally say do not pass go, do not collect $200, but in your case, we are making an exception…..Hurry and pass Go, and collect your $200, because that’s all you’re worth !

Note: Arthur Blank is going to have Moron Jim fire you anyway !

By MusicED

December 12, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

LOL…..Different Coach=Same Results. Folks there is a reason Knapp is being considered for that job. He is not as bad as you guys are making him out to be. Now I do question his play calling at times but I can’t say for certain he’s a bad coach simply because we haven’t seen the whole picture. I mean executing the offensive plays as they are called will give me a better stance on Knapp’s coaching ability. I think its unfair to say Knapp is the problem when we have had inconsistentcy at the WR position, the QB position, and the OL. Let’s not forget. Some of you who constantly bash Knapp for his coaching abilities also will say that we will easily be 10-3 “if the WR’s would have caught the ball” Which tells me somebody is doing something right from an offensive stand point.

I will conclude by saying that until we find a QB that is willing to think PASS first and RUN second we will never be a consistent team. I love Vick as a player but I think he is on his way to becoming a modern day Kordell Stewart. Vick is in his 6th season and as a football fan I still don’t know if vick can accuratly pass the ball on a frequent basis.

By ICEMAN

December 12, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

SpecialED,

Vick has the tools for success. He and the rest of the falcons need better direction and decision making from a coaching standpoint. Please discontinue your ignorant,although somewhat inteligible, criticisms of Vick.

By John from Dunwoody

December 12, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

MICHAEL VICK SUCKS. HE’S A POOR EXCUSE FOR A PIECE OF TURD.

ICEMAN IS AN IDIOT!

By MusicED

December 12, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

ICEMAN,

I agree with you when you say that “vick has the tools for success” and so does a 5 year old child. All we ever talk about is Vick’s potential or as you put it the “tools” to be successful. All I am saying is that Vick is in his 6th season. It’s time to stop pointing the finger and start realizing that potential on a consistent basis. I watch football religiously and I see Vick make mistakes that veteren QBs shouldn’t be making. I know he is usually running for his life on the field but certain things he must be held accountable for. Now…….Accountability is something that needs to go across the board. From the Owner on down to the players. I don’t see that happening in the Falcon’s camp. I know Vick is a Franchise player but I think when he is playing poorly at the end of games he needs to be pulled from the game so he knows he is not above the team. That action is a coaching move but I don’t think our coaches have the nads to make that move…….partially to blame for the mediocre season.

By Terry

December 12, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

FIre Greg Knapp, and hire Dan Reeves as OC.

By JP

December 12, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

T.P. what i’m sayin is it don’t matter who calls the plays, RON MEXICO is a damn dummy and every scheme he is in is going to have to be scaled down to make it work. You will only go so far with a QB that can’t read the damn defense. Make this guy accountable just like yall make everybody else on the team. This is his freakin 6th year. Knapp is nowhere near the level of coach as Dan Reeves so to put these guys in the same sentence is just stupid to me. TRADE MV! Oh I forgot Ron Mexico! And send T.P. with him. Let them dummies be together.

By Bo

December 12, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

John from Dunwoody,

Did your mom do Meth while she was pregnant with you?

By Logical

December 12, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

What’s next for the offense if he leaves (PLEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEEEE GOD TAKE HIM AWAY BECAUSE WE KNOW MORE AND BLANK DONT HAVE THE STONES TO FIRE HIM)…

success consistency and most importantly…points.

By JP

December 12, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

T.P. what i’m sayin is it don’t matter who calls the plays, RON MEXICO is a damn dummy and every scheme he is in is going to have to be scaled down to make it work. You will only go so far with a QB that can’t read the damn defense. Make this guy accountable just like yall make everybody else on the team. This is his freakin 6th year. Knapp is nowhere near the level of coach as Dan Reeves so to put these guys in the same sentence is just stupid to me. TRADE MV! Oh I forgot Ron Mexico! And send T.P. with him. Let them dummies be together.

By mo

December 12, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

MusicEd,

What mistakes are Vick making? Please provide some examples.

Also, you said that you know that he is running for life, so please provide an example from a QB that is running for his life- with a terrible O-line and receivers that aren’t catching the ball consistently.

Thanks!

By BirdDawg

December 12, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

Here come the ignorant ‘Necks like JP.

Okay, ignorant ‘Necks, got anything new for us today?

Maybe an intelligent argument? I know, I know… asking for intelligence from an ignorant ‘Neck is an oxymoron, but I digress.

Oh, and by the way, JP, oxymoron isn’t an insult. It means the putting together of two words or two phrases that are either exact opposites or are in opposition of each other. Like military intelligence. Or Bill Clinton and Fidelity. Or intelligent argument and ignorant ‘neck.

See, none of those words or phrases belongs together.

By kg

December 12, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

Greg, If you want people to read your comments, don’t use all caps and drop the exclamation points. Your comments may or may not be insightful, who knows if nobody can read them?

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 12, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

Dear Stanford,

From the bottom of my heart, thank you for making an attempt to take the worst offensive coordinator in the NFL from the Falcons. The only thing that can happen if Knapp leaves is that the play-calling will become better. I’m not a Musgrave fan, he was a terrible OC in Jacksonville, but I’m sure we can find someone who can call plays better than Knapp and allow Vick more freedom to use his skills and HOPEFULLY ALSO TO AUDIBLE!.

I’m not a big fan of making radical changes in the system at this point, especially since it’s been hard enough to get this offense to adapt to the current system. But I would like an OC who puts a priority on having a big, powerful offensive line. And I’m sure even within the current system, a creative OC can find a way to add more 15-20 yard routes that Knapp currently doesn’t feature, like wheel routes and post routes. Oh, and also, you have 3 running backs who can catch the ball very well, but this team doesn’t use them as pass catchers — use Dunn, Norwood and Griffith more in the passing game!

Ideally I would like to see the Falcons get Ken Whisenhunt from the Steelers — now that guy knows how to call plays. Chances are he would want to be a head coach, not an OC, if we tried to hire him. In that case, I have no problem with this team canning Mora to get him.

By Brydogg

December 12, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Ken Wisenhunt from the Steelers.

By ICEMAN

December 12, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

John from Dunwoody and JP,

You guys are two of all those crack babies that were born in the ’80s. I was wondering what happened to them.

MusicED,

You have a valid point. I will take it into consideration.

By GREG

December 12, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

LOL!!!!!ICE MAN WAS PROBALLY ON THE YELLOW JACKET BANDWAGON!!!!

By Mike

December 12, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

Maybe the college game is better suited for Knapp’s coaching style. Does anyone ever notice that his name NEVER get mentiontioned for any potential NFL head coaching jobs? hmmm… I wonder why??????

By John from Dunwoody

December 12, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

Bo,

Was your mom a dude?

By GREG

December 12, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

ICE MAN,OR BACKDOOR MAN!!!FALCONS BIG WINS!!!!! TAMPA BAY TWICE…3-10 CAROLINA……6-7 ARIZONA…4-9 PITTSBURGH….6-7 CNCI….8-5!!!!!!WOW HUGE WIN!!!! WASHINGTON…4-9

By Bo

December 12, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

John from Dunwoody,

Yeah she’s more of man than your punk father…lol

By SC DAWG

December 12, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

It want matter cause the Falcons will miss the playoffs and the whole coaching staff will be fired. So why not look for employment before the axe falls.

By mo

December 12, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

Greg,

And with better coaching, we would have beaten some other bad teams, namely Cleveland…4-9 and Detroit…2-11. But in both games the play-calling was atrocious. It made my stomach turn! Hence, the reason for the euphoria over Greg Knapp’s possible departure.

We’re sick of the incompetence.

But, you can continue to entertain yourself with anti-Vick rantings while we try to work out the real problems with the offense…

By Dion

December 12, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

I think it would be good for Knapp to leave, b/c I don’t think he’s going to have much of a choice at season’s end when they can Mora anyway.

Step one: Offer Jimmy Johnson a bunch of money to be the head coach!!

Step two: Find an OC who will let Vick be Vick!! (It’s not like he’s going anywhere)

Step three: Sit back and watch the Falcons roll over everybody next year!!

By CJ2

December 12, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

BRING BACK JUNE JONES AND THE RUN AND SHOOT!!!

By GREG

December 12, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

BRING BACK JERRY GLANVILLE!!!

By Dion

December 12, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

Run and Shoot requires a good receiver, something we don’t currently have, please arthur get moss out of oakland!!

By falconclaws1221

December 12, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

OH POOR GREG HE PAID FOR A TICKET PAID FOR A PARKING SPACE BOUGHT A BEER….. TOTAL PKG WAS $61.00 THEN THE FALCONS LOST—-POOR GREG; THAT $61.00 WAS A FULL WEEKS PAY FOR HIM. HE HAS TRIED TO GET A BETTER PAYING JOB BUT THE FACT HE DROPPED OUT OF THE 2ND GRADE HAS HINDERED HIM.. NOW HE JUST SITS AROUND HATING THE FALCONS

By John from Dunwoody

December 12, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Bo knows how to Blow. His dad showed him.

By Bo

December 12, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry for all those stupid blogs i’ve entered over the last few hours. I am an idiot sometimes, to say the least. These blogs are good for me. It’s a good way to blow out all the hot air that I have mounted inside me. Please forgive me for all me useless and backward knowledge that may be exposed. Needless to say, I am a real jerk.

By GREG

December 12, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

LOL!!!!!!!……I LOVE GOING TO NEON DEONS HOUSE…..I AINT GO NO JOB 1221..CAN I DO WHAT YOU DO AND SELL MY A$$ TO OLD MEN ON THE STREET!

By Jake

December 12, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

What difference does it make. We’ll just bring in another coach who can’t succeed with Vick at the helm. Why? Because Vick is not a quarterback.

By CJ

December 12, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

Right on that one, Jake. He’s a coach killer, as well.

By falconclaws1221

December 12, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

GREG; SINCE YOU AINT GOT NO JOB AND YOU GOT NO TICKETS TO SCALP——YOU COULD ALWAYS SLALP YOUR A* TO OLD MEN—-YOU GOT MY PERMISSION.

By lt

December 12, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Perhaps the injuries to the RB’s is a blessing. Maybe the Falcons will discover that they have one of the best RB’s in the league in Michael Vick.

By Orlando Rivera

December 12, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

John from Dunwoody,

I guess you would know, because you must’ve been the guy he was blowing.

By Steve T

December 12, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

That is music to my ears. I would like to get a coach from the steelers. Those guys can block any thing. You can put 8,9, 10 in the box, it does not matter. Did you guys see how they blew everyone off the ball inside the 5. The RB walking in the end zone.

I was wondering if we can steal big Mike from the bucs. Did you see him get those shortages. If the falcons had him it could do two things: 1) Keep drives a live. He can pick 3 yards with out a problem.

2) Help us score on the goal line. Part of the problem has been scoring in the red zone.

We need some of the Steelers coaches. We need a coach that will make the team play hard.

By Mike L.

December 12, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

well - should this happen, the Falcons have to let someone from their own ranks finish the season as the OC. Either Musgrave or Gibbs are qualified to run the offense - they have been around this system for sometime now that no major changes would be necessary and they would probably simplify the system - which in my opinion would help a lot.

For next year - if Musgrave or Gibbs take over the offense and the offense aboslutely explodes - keep them on board. if not there is a very capable offensive mind in Jacksonville serving as the associate head coach - Mike Tice.

let’s see what he can do with this offense and the talent.

By big kem

December 12, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

its bout time for greg knapp and that stupid west coast offense to go. vick was doing alot better before it came. west coast offense is for pocket QBs. vick is not a pocket QB. hes a good scrambling QB

By John from Dunwoody

December 12, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Orlando Rivera, Go back to Mexico, you piece of crap.

By kg

December 12, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

You can not win with a pocket qb if there’s no pocket. If Knapp stays (I hope not), then Gibbs has got to go. Using under sized linemen and a cut block scheme is not designed for pass protection. For the Falcons, they can’t protect the qb and the recievers can’t catch the ball. Then you have a WCO where you only want the qb to throw the ball 20 times a game. How is any of this designed to take advantage of Vick’s talent?

By Steve T

December 12, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

big kem, the WCO was designed for QBs who did not have the big cannon. When Bill designed this offense, he took advantage of the QB skill set. If I recall, he designed this offense to fit a QB that could move. However, the QB did not have a cannon. He had a mix of short passes and roll outs.

If you recall, Joe Montana could run if he had too. Joe also had some design roll outs. However, when Joe rolled out, he had a lineman leading the way.

You people killed me getting on the blogs. The WCO can fit any QB. It is designed to take advantage of the QB skill set. You have pass series call action passes. With Vick we should be running more action and 5,7 yard drops. You can go to this well site:

http://www.coachsoffice.com/pdfs/WestCoastOffense.pdf

By Ignatius

December 12, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

David Cutcliffe.

By Boots

December 12, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

Head coaches, assistants, coordinators will come and go, but the one constant on this team is Michael Vick. He will be here and have the opportunity to prove that he is coachable and teachable. I don’t think he is, but those of you who worship MV7 will never be convinced until he’s gone through another coaching change or two. No coach or coordinator wants to blame their franchise player —- that would be tacky —- but it is obvious that Vick does not want the freedom to audiblize —- OR HE WOULD HAVE IT! It is also obvious to me that trying to design an offense to fit an eratic quarterback is probably more difficult than merely posting a blog! I honestly don’t see anybody on the horizon who could take this team and develop it into a consistent contender. The salary cap and Vick’s disproportionate share of the cap money prevents bringing on quality players in skill positions to balance the offense and defense. You would think Vick would restructure his contract in order to win, but apparently that won’t happen Bling! Bling! And, screw the fans!

By chichi

December 12, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this

Get that guy from texas tech as oc

By nunna yo bizness

December 12, 2006 08:36 PM | Link to this

Go Falcons !!!!! Go Mike VIck !!!!!! And go,go,go,go,GONE Gregg Knapp !!!!

I wish u the best of luck.. U just don’t know.. And..Take the 8th grade Woodward Academy Basketball Coach with U.. Thats the Gregg Knapp of Basketball!!!!

By smorrison

December 12, 2006 08:40 PM | Link to this

Dirk Koetter ASU’s fired head coach. Boise states guru. This guy know offense. Stanford needs to hire him and jim needs to tell him to take the job if offered. To upgrade the offense and let his friend get a head coaching job everyone is happy.

By JSS

December 12, 2006 08:56 PM | Link to this

You are all missing the point: where do we send the letters of recommendations for Knapp at Stanford? Getting to typing already!!!

By JSS

December 12, 2006 09:26 PM | Link to this

  1. Norm Chow, he’s shown that he can handle variety, Vince Young has grown in ways that everyone said he incapable of doing…

  2. Mike Leith, you keep the spread but he can get the best of what Norwood can bring to the table… But the receivers must catch the ball in his system… If you like power running you won’t like Leitch’s system… However you will see vertical passing…

  3. Josh McDaniels, he is the offensive coordinator in New England. Studied at the feet of Charlie Weiss… Enough said!!!

Out of the box choices 4. Chris Hatcher, He runs a spread, but he has links to the base West Coast via Hal Mume.

  1. Dirk Koetler, S. Morrison knows his offensive coaches I see…

I do have a couple of other choices but I will leave them for another time…

My I done lost my mind because he’s unemployed after game 16… Dennis Green (Just keep a guard on the door at all strip clubs!)

People not to hire: Jim Fassel Mike Martz Anybody associated with Al Saunders… Anybody associated with Brian Billick

Folks, Hawaii does not run the run and shoot.. They run the Utah Spread… However they go vertical more than anyone else who runs it… 4.

By Steve T

December 12, 2006 09:29 PM | Link to this

I honestly don’t see anybody on the horizon who could take this team and develop it into a consistent contender.

Sir, I would love to coach the offense. There is too much talent on the team for us to settle for FGs in the red zone. You say it is Vick. My question is why in the LLLLLL can’t we run it into the end zone from the 1? After all, we have the number 1 rushing offense in the NFL. Why is it we can move the ball up and down the field but get stuck in the red zone. How often do we run the FB on the goal line. If I recall the WCO use the football in the run and passing game.

I can tell you what may have sealed Knapp’s fate. The man name is Justin. I have a feeling that Blank and company may read this blogs. Everyone has be screaming for Justin on the goal line. What did he do in the red zone? He made it look easy. Now add a FB that can run like Big Mike in Tampa and you could score almost every time in the red zone.

Hey why don’t you news people tell us how many games would the falcons would have won if they would have put the ball in the end zone when they had the ball inside the 10.

By e.b.

December 12, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

I think bottom line was, if Falcs don’t get to playoffs, Mora & Knapp will be gone. Now, we’re half way there, but hopefully we still get to the playoffs.

By WallStBro

December 12, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this

Hip Hip Hooray!!

By keeping it REAL !

December 12, 2006 11:29 PM | Link to this

Load Gregg Knapp @$$ up and Alex Gibb to. Give Warren Moon a call. He would help vick and the Falcons . He was a pro bowler and knows the game and the heat player have to deal with!

By FalconsFan

December 12, 2006 11:50 PM | Link to this

I’d vote for getting Norm Chow. Look at his record. He coached Philip Rivers for one year at North Carolina State and that year, Rivers won the ACC Freshman of the year award. Chow’s coached three Heisman quarterbacks. He coached Steve Young, a Hall of Famer. This year, he will probably coach Vince Young to NFL rookie of the year. It’s scary to think what the Titans can do once they get more experience. They are one of the youngest teams in the NFL and I never thought they would win more than 4 games this year. I’m amazed.

By ja

December 13, 2006 12:45 AM | Link to this

This offense has not worked for 3 years. It is time for a vertical passing guru who understands the importance of the play action pass to compliment Vicks skills. To see what Payton did in one year with the Saints should be enough motivation to make a change at the OC position. Other areas that need to be addressed are secondary, wide receivers and o-line. It is amazing that with the talent on this team that they will miss the playoff’s again.

By Alex

December 13, 2006 01:44 AM | Link to this

Is the moving van parked outside Knapp’s house yet???

By Drexel Gal

December 13, 2006 02:10 AM | Link to this

Let’s see … offensive coordinator for an NFL team whose quarterback is the pro equivalent of Reggie Ball … or head coach at a Pac-10 school with high academic standards and the significant probabilty of success.

How many of you need yet another blow to the head with a two-by-four?

By NoDrexelGal

December 13, 2006 03:41 AM | Link to this

“or head coach at a Pac-10 school with high academic standards and the significant probabilty of success.”

“The significant probabilty of success” at Stanford vs. USC and UCLA in The Pac-10?

Please, use the “two-by-four” on yourself.

By spud

December 13, 2006 05:27 AM | Link to this

mike shula is avaiable.

By An Inquiring Mind

December 13, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this

I have a question for the pathetic jock sniffers who worship at Vick’s throne:

Who are you going to blame when Knapp leaves, and your savior continues to struggle?

By GREG

December 13, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

MICHEAL VICK WILL NEVER GET A RING OR WIN TOO MANY PLAYOFF GAMES….HONESTLY PEOPLE OUT THERE,MICHEAL VICK IS ONE OF THE WORST QB’S IN THE LEAGUE!JIM MORA SR QUIT HIS JOB FOR TELLING THE TRUTH!PRO FOOTBALL IS A HUGE JOKE!

By mo

December 13, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Actually, I think Greg Knapp will be a good head coach at Stanford.

Greg Knapp’s philosophy is perfect for the PAC-10. Also, since the PAC-10 has not a lot of defensive prowess, I believe that in a few years, he can go against USC and UCLA.

See, Greg Knapp’s West Coast offense is very controlled. It is a system that will teach the basic fundamentals of the game to any QB in the college ranks. He will have absolute control.

Also, his style is unwavering. And he is a good guy to play for. His personality, from what I heard, is one of those “good guy” personalities, so the kids out there will like him.

Plus, he has a good resume in the NFL, being on winning programs.

All in all, from Stanford’s perspective, it’s a good hire.

And if he succeeds there, Knapp will be a hero.

By modestd

December 13, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this

Greg….your a douche.

By GREG

December 13, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

WHY?WHAT HAS VICK AND THE FALCONS DONE?OH YEAH VICK HAD THAT MEMORABLE GAME AT GREEN BAY IN 2002!..LOL!!!!!!!..GREENBAY HAS SUCKED FOR 10 YEARS!..GET A LIFE AND SMELL MY FARTS!ROCK ON MICHEAL VICK AND BRING MARCUS ON BOARD WITH YOU!!!!!

By vickisick

December 13, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

steve t to answer: the o-lone doesn’t block the way short yardage packages must i.e. POWER RUNNING GAME which includes pulling guards, traps and misdirection. why, because the play takes too long to develop in the backfield and the o-line can’t hold up the rush while the guard pulls and the play develops.

ATL can run all over teams at the 50 because teams must account for the passing game deep threat. so here is where ATL front office messed up. IF HAVE A QB WHO CAN PICK UP YDG IN THE RUN GAME. WHY NOT BUILD A PASS PROTECTING OLINE FOLLOWED BY A POUND IT RUN GAME FOR THE ENDZONE. vick takes care of everything except punching it in cause he aint the oline and qb.

By John from Dunwoody

December 13, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

Oh, please guys, I didn’t mean what I said to Orlando Rivera, that was totally wrong for me to do that because I am in love with Hispanic men! In fact, I fantacize a nice three-way with him and Titothebear. Mmmmmmmmmm, Titothebear and Orlando at the same time, with me? I think I’m in heaven, I’m shivering just thinking about it! Whoa, I had better go, my mascara is starting to run and my pantyhose are riding up my crack! Toodles Orlando and Tito!

By B-man

December 13, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

ATTENTION COACH MORA AND COACH KNAPP…IF YOU WANT VICK AND THIS OFFENSE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IT IS VERY EASY….Reverse his reads for throwing the ball for 75% of your passing plays. In other words, look for the back out of the back field first, then look to alge, then look to the receivers. I assure you this will open things up. Defenses cannot, cover a back in the flat as the first option, while also accounting for vick and watching for the run. Its so simple you havent even thought of it…..

By modestd

December 13, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Sorry Greg…I have been working the past two hours and have been unable to respond to your inquiry on why you are a douche.LOL! What are the Falcons supposed to do? They lose to a team with a losing record everyone says how sorry the Falcons are. They beat a team with a losing record and everyone talks about how it does not matter because the team they played was awful. If you football wizards would pay attention you would notice that of their 6 losses, 3 of them were against teams with a winning record. That is the nature of the NFC this year. Everyone has been losing. So to say the Falcons are sorry because they have only beaten teams with losing records is ridiculous.

By modestd

December 13, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

Sorry…4 of the losses I forgot that we lost to the Saints twice.

By Rick Mayers (Macon)

December 13, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

Thank him for his effort and let him go even if he doesn’t get the job. It’s been obvious to most of us that he didn’t have the know how or imagination to correct the red zone problem . 1.The other teams know what plays the falcons will run , that is why the falcons rarely have success when they need short yardage like the red zone or 1 or 2 yards on 3rd & 4 down . Knapp is too predictable and he keeps running the same plays even though our O.L. has serious problems knapp runs the same plays , bunch up runs in the middle of the line and the other team stuffs it TIME & TIME AGAIN. WE have M.Vick,,, pull him some blockers and run the option, run or pass with the running back and blockers Vick will get the yards needed 99% of the time. That is why we need Norm Chow or another good O.C. that will have an imagination and use the talent on this team. “MR.BLANK PLEASE MAKE THIS CHANGE”

By GREG

December 13, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

HA STD? HOW DID YOU GET THE NAME?TAKING IT LIKE A MAN?LOL!!!!!!!

By modestd

December 13, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

I just realized the end of my name is STD. dang it! You are a