AJC > Sports > Falcons > Blog > Archives > 2006 > December > 06 > Entry
Vick ‘overcomes’ sparingly
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
For those of you interested in Falcons quarterback Michael Vick’s comments following Atlanta’s 24-14 victory over Washington Sunday, when he said that sometimes players have to overcome coaching, they were not as inflammatory as they may have read or sounded.
In fact, some coaches today said they actually tell players to overcome their coaching. Translation: If you feel like you can make a play, go for it - just make sure to make the play.
Just about every coaching staff in the NFL gives players some latitude to alter a play, route or rush based on the flow of the game, coverage or something they have picked up on that maybe the coaches didn’t.
Vick’s decision to break off a screen play and hit wide receiver Michael Jenkins for a go-ahead, 22-yard touchdown pass was borne off that freedom.
Vick said he saw a favorable coverage the last time the Falcons lined up in a certain formation and told Jenkins that if the Redskins came out in the same alignment, to run a deep in route and be ready for the ball.
Vick said today that he rarely changes plays and that doing so more than a few times every few games would be undermining the coaching staff and the team’s philosophy.




DEL.ICIO.US


Comments
By NYFalconFan
December 6, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
I totally understand the rule to play within the system, BUT, if Vick recognizes something in the defense that he knows he can exploit throwing down field then by all means take the shot. I wonder how many times he has come across a situation this season and didnt change the play as he was about to run the predictable option play that Greg “take a” Knapp was calling in. I think he should do it often if the offense comes across the right situation. Vicks whole game is creating and improvising when the play breaks down. Why not give him the option to do so at the line of scrimmage.
By Phat Phalcon
December 6, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this
I saw on ESPN this morning that Matt Leinart (a rookie?!) is now calling audibles on 20 percent of the plays according to his coach, who praised his comfort level reading defenses. Hello, Knapp!! Anybody home???
By Jeff D
December 6, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
So…is he allowed to audible? Why/why not?
By mo
December 6, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this
Uh,
How is that not audibling? Because it’s not at the line of scrimmage?
And if he has that kind of latitude, why doesn’t Vick just audible?
Forget the coaching staff’s philosophy. That sounds like a cop-out.
It would be foolish to still do a play when you know that it will not work. The coaching staff’s ego needs not to be stroked, we need to win.
Steve Wyche,
Can you explain this?
By cc
December 6, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
Look we need to rally support and get these guys in the playoffs. Just as sure as the Falcons went on a downslide the second half of last season, they have the ability to start a winning streak right now. So let’s think positive and kick some butt!!!
By Madden King
December 6, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this
Vick, play to win and the Falcons and this city will have the Superbowl in February. PLAY TO WIN VICK! HOLLA!
By keeping it REAL !
December 6, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this
The Fire is making Vick a better QB.Crossing routes work very good for Vick and the reciver!14 points in the first quater is a team killer the defense has to work hearder , Stop the deep pass! Norwood and Dunn on more short passing they are the safety valves for Vick! Get them open! Win Falcons
By Phat Phalcon
December 6, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
Mo that’s not even close to an audible. In this scenario Mike told Jenkins in the huddle to tweak his route if he saw a certain coverage. Peyton Manning and Carson Palmer will literally walk up to the line, survey the defense, then call a formation and play to beat it. Huge difference.
By HUH?
December 6, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
change the play Vick… you are obviously a better offensive coordinator than Greg Knapp… Fire Knapp!!!
By fontanna
December 6, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
Certainly Vick should be able to audible or call his own plays; I can’t see where the falcons need coaches because Vick will do what he wants anyway. When the franchise is built on a player like Vick, he should be given rightful pass to do anything he wants, anytime he wants. The important thing is that the Falcons continue to win, it doens’t matter how they do it. Do not take Tampa Bay for granted and look past them to Dallas. They are going to be ready for this game. Vick will bde on top of the world as long as he wins BUT if he loses, it’s back to the same old song and dance. Sadly, sports has come down to the big name, high paid player that the sports world caters to. Go Falcons——-just win this game and get us to the playoffs. Keep Greg Knapp, he is really a genius. Mora is even a bigger genius.
By Najeh Davenpoop
December 6, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this
Changing the play in the huddle is different from audibling. Sure, it’s nice that Vick took a screen pass on 2nd and 20 which wouldn’t have gained more than 5 yards without perfect blocking and turned it into a post pattern against single coverage for a TD. But the big difference between that and audibling is that when you audible you first have to look at the defensive setup on that play. After reading the pre-snap look the defense is giving (are linebackers about to blitz? are there 8 or 9 guys in the box? is a linebacker or safety covering a wide receiver? etc.) then you change the play accordingly. I still see Vick rarely, if ever, doing this… which either tells me he trusts his pathetic coaching staff way too much or he’s not allowed to audible. What he did in the huddle is nice — but I want to see more of what he can do at the line of scrimmage before the snap.
By vickisick
December 6, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this
i’d like to see vick with 4 wideouts throwing wr screens, quick rb screens and having rb’s sent out to the flats to force LB’s to respect everyone on the field. right now they just spy vick and play man to man.
if vick would move the ball to 4 or 5 outlets before he took off and ran, he’d have more space to make a huge play. vick should lay low early on in the game and dump off to the flats, read his open receivers, find alge and run rb and wr screens. once teams respect all these outlets, then unleash vick’s legs.
the current offensive scheme is predicated on the dunn off tackle/bootleg play and the shotgun option. model your scheme after steve young’s success mora. steve young found all his outlets, checked down to the open one and if they were all covered he knew he’d be open to run.
By Najeh Davenpoop
December 6, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this
And also, that is the first time in a long time I have seen Vick throw a basic post pattern… most of the 15+ yard passes Vick throws are poorly designed throws down the sideline where the cornerback can use the sideline as an extra defender. And what do you know, Vick’s the guy who drew up the post pattern in the huddle. Designing plays that move the safety and leave room over the middle for a post should be pretty easy for an NFL offensive coordinator, especially when you have a guy like Alge Crumpler who can run down the seam and create space, and especially when defenses are loading up the box with 8 or 9 defenders. Why doesn’t Knapp allow Vick to use the middle of the field more? Makes no sense at all.
By honest_abe
December 6, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this
all i know is vick informed the whole world approx. a month ago on hba that he wasn’t allowed to audible. if this was SUCH a big deal. i think there would have been some more national scrutiny on this issue. i have yet to read one article on it. so maybe all you coach potato coaches are.. let’s say .. reaching?
By JP
December 6, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
Well we are in some trouble if Vick has to try overcome his own coaches because that kid aint playin with a full deck.
By JP
December 6, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this
And what is the big deal with audibling now? When we were going to nfc championship game we didn’t audible then either. People Vick is a good player but I don’t care how much he audibles we are not going to win a super bowl with Vick. He has reached his peak as a player in this league. So I suggest we trade him while we can get something for him. Hell why noy?
By Darrin "The Vent King"
December 6, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
Man, it’s amazing how even the slightest remark from this guy is such big news. I don’t know how anyone can deal with such scrutiny. I actually feel sorry for MV7 because 130 million dollars isn’t worth everyone in the media polarizing your every move or comment. Dissecting every little remark and looking for anything possible to blow things out of proportion. I knew, even though I didn’t think Vick was being that serious, when I heard him say that comment that there was going to be ten different articles come out saying the guy threw his coaches under a bus. This is not a big deal at all and I wonder why it’s talked about so much. Keep doing your thing MV7 and “let them haters, hate!”
Go Falcons!
By mo
December 6, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this
Phat Phalcon,
I understand that, but if he has that kind of latitude, why doesn’t he just audible?
By go doves
December 6, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this
The difference between what Vick did and an “audible” is that an audible is something that has a scripted behavior for the whole offense, and allows each player to know the change being made before it happens. Since Vick isnt allowed to do this, he improvised with one player, much like street ball when you tell one player to just get open.
Not giving Vick the authority to audible means the likelihood of these changes to the play actually working is much less, since the rest of the team is running the original play which potentially will conflict with the defensive scheme attempting to be taken advantage of. The route change for Jenkins worked like a charm and shows that VIck does have the mental capacity to read defenses. Give the guy the option to audible out of the predictable play when the defense is in perfect position to stop it. The is the NFL and Vick is a 6 year vet. I have seen high school quarterbacks calling audibles so Knapp not trusting Vick to do so is basically signaling he has no faith in Vick, which if I were paying a guy 140 million to run my team but limiting him by the guy getting paid a hell of a lot less, I would rethink things a bit.
By Boheezy
December 6, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
But yall all say Vick can’t read defenses. He must have know something to know what they were doing in that certain package. Mike keep doing what you do. Get us back to the playoffs and unleash the beast.
By jack
December 6, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this
Most of us agree about audibles. Vick and all other Pro QBs should be allowed to audible. Any coach with a Dummy at QB is just out of luck. You must be able to read defenses. Vick has been around enough to know when to change…Besides, if his audible breaks down, We got the best set of “Legs” in the NFL to get something out of the play.
By BirdDawg
December 6, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this
Steve,
Why do you keep on ducking us? Why has NO ONE at this paper done anything about questioning Greg Knapp, about questioning the pure idiocy of an NFL offense which does not allow its QB to audible at the line of scrimage?
Why does Greg Knapp keep on getting a free pass in the Atlanta media, yet Vick gets scrutinized every week?
How is that fair to Vick, especially when Vick doesn’t have the ability to help get this offense into the best possible play in order to have success?
I’m sick of the AJC kissing coach’s @$$es because they don’t want to get denied access. Why does the New York or Chicago media get to get tough with the coaches and not have to worry about those sorts of things, yet down here in Atlanta, the beat writer isn’t allowed to ask the HC or the OC about their complete ineptness (albeit asked more tactfully)?
What’s the difference between the New York or Chicago media and the Atlanta media? Why are the guys here so scared to get tough with the coaches? Is it because of Winklejohn having the cajones to go up against that immature, petulant child Jimmy Mora, during a press conference last year, and getting fed up with poor wittle Jimmy Mora’s attitude?
Is that the reason?
It just doesn’t make any damn sense, Steve. There is much more to this story; this story of Greg Knapp not giving his QBs the ability to audible. Or his unimaginative and predictable playcalling. Or his refusal to use Griffith and Dunn, two guys who can actually CATCH a damn pass, in the passing game. Someone really needs to hold him accountable for these things, and that is the job of the media.
So where is it? Where’s the story we fans demand to see?
By Phat Phalcon
December 6, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this
He isn’t allowed to audible. To reiterate my first post, John Clayton mentioned in his quick-hit around the NFL bit this am that Leinart’s coaches are thrilled with his adjustment to the NFL. He said that he audibles on about 20 percent of the plays and was even credited with calling some of Edgerrin James big runs recently. Between his ability to change plays and having James, Fitzgerald, et al to throw to is it any wonder he put up 400 yds in his fifth career start? Put Fitzgerald and Boldin on this team and give Vick this latitude and watch what happens. Get a clue coaches!!! Either that or read my kid’s poster from the Saints game and let him coach the team!!!
By Orlando Rivera
December 6, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this
Thank you Birddawg, that’s really the only reason they won’t call out the coordinators.
For all those other morons who love to do nothing more with their pathetic lives than to call out Vick even in a good game, he has a better read on defenses than your golden boys Grossman, Eli Manning, and even the flavor of the month Tony Homo (which is what he’ll be after Dec. 16th at the GA. Dome).
I won’t hold my breath for all of you haters to wise up.
By honest_abe
December 6, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this
i wonder who would make for a bigger story. mike vick or matt leinhert……. hmmmm
the fact of the matter is and i stated this earlier. if there was a story BIRDPOOP one of your local reporters wouldn’t have to do the story now would they? why hasn’t chris mortenson or john clayton gotten a whiff of this story? if this is SUCH A FREAKING BIG DEAL I’M TELLING YOU THERE WOULD ALREADY HAVE BEEN A FREAKING STORY ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WOULD HAVE HEADLINED ONE OF THE SUNDAY MORNING PRE GAME SHOWS… IT WOULD’VE SURFACED ON THE NFL N. BUT IT HASN’T!!!!!!!!! SO PLEASE HOW ABOUT LETTING IT GO?
i dont’ know if i’ve ever come across a person as annoying as bird dawg … “dear steve”, “dear steve” please, please, please why CAN’T YOU WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT KNAPP? i have a man crush on him and i won’t be satisfied until someone absolutely takes a dump on his head!!!! … two seconds later.. “dear steve, DIDN’T YOU HEAR ME THE FIRST TIME?? I AM THE ALMIGHT BIRD POOP AND I DEMAND AN ARTICLE ON MY MALE FANTASY GREG KNAPP!” … a day later… “dear steve, i am getting annoyed at all you pansy ajc writers grow some balls and throw the offensive coordinator under the bus for my sake.. who cares if the team hates you .. and it’ll be almost unbearable to walk into the locker room… I AM THE ALMIGHT BIRD POOP AND I DEMAND IT”
-MY NAME IS BIRD POOP AND I CALL WHOEVER DISAGREES WITH ME RACIST! NOW ALL OF YOU FALCON FANS BOW DOWN TO ME! I AM A BITTER MIDDLE AGED MAN WITH NO LIFE AND NO FRIENDS. I FANTASIZE ABOUT GREG KNAPP ON A DAILY BASIS. I WANT HIM FIRED SO I CAN PLAY WITH HIM ON A DAILY BASIS!! I AM BIRD POOP OVER AND OUT!”
By curtis fitzgerald
December 6, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this
WHO IS JP? ALWAYS HATING ON VICK!!! GROW THE HELL UP!!! GO VICK!!! THEY’RE GOING TO HATE AS LONG AS THE QUATERBACK IN ATLANTA WEARS BLACK.
JP——-JUST PREJUDICE!!!
By larry w.
December 6, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this
BirdDawg…We (the fans) have been calling Knapp, Donatell, and to some degree Mora out most of the season. No one knows this more than Steve, seeing as how this is HIS blog. Apparently, limitations have been placed on the media as to where they can and can’t go with their inquiries. I have a feeling that no matter how much we demand a story on Knapp, we are not going to get it!
By Boots
December 6, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this
Phat Phalcon: Explain to me why Vick, who is the franchise player, doesn’t DEMAND the right to “audible” at the line? Vick is UNTOUCHABLE and if he wanted the right to “audible”, I’m sure he would get it. He’s the man. SO WHY DOESN’T HE SIMPLY SAY: “SOME OF THESE PLAYS YOU’RE SENDING IN ARE GONNA GET ME KILLED. I’VE GOT TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THEM AT THE LINE!”
The only answer I can come up with is that he DOESN’T WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY and ACCOUNTABILITY THAT COMES WITH IT!!
By Adel Purvis
December 6, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this
C’mon guys, Vick is a very, very talented RB playing QB, he is not experienced enough to be the next Peyton Manning. However, he will rush for 1,000 yards. He is not the prototypical QB, his audible is stretching defenses for 19, 21, 31, 41 yard rushes…he will be fine if his Wr catch the ball when open….put him in the Colts, Cowboys offense and he wins the Superbowl!!
By Famuan
December 6, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this
Boots, that doesn’t make sense seeing as he said the exact opposite on national(hll, make that international) television. When will these “experts” stop trying to read between the lines and start just reading the dmn lines!!
By Boots
December 6, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this
To Famuan: So what are you saying? Does he want to audible or not?
By Phat Phalcon
December 6, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this
Put it this way. I for one would love to see Vick operate a no-huddle ”check with me” offense a couple series a game. Would be very interesting.
By Phat Phalcon
December 6, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this
Abe are you suggesting that a story is only important if the national media picks it up? Here’s guessing you only listen to mainstream music…
By Boots
December 6, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this
Phat: Do you think the coaches would give MV& the right to audible if HE REALLY WANTED IT
By Steve T
December 6, 2006 07:47 PM | Link to this
A good coach will listen to his players. If Vick comes back to the sideline and say coach the defense is doing this I think we can do this. The coach needs to listen.
By honest_abe
December 6, 2006 07:50 PM | Link to this
well phat last time i checked it hadn’t made the local news either. hmmm so maybe there just isn’t one.
By dirrtybird
December 6, 2006 07:51 PM | Link to this
Let’s get to the bottom of this once and for all. What’ a good way that we could find out about this audible situation from the source? hmmmmmmmm… . . Oh!
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
Interview Gregg Knapp
By Boots
December 6, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this
I’ve been critical of Vick’s lack of leadership on the field —- tolerating the lackluster performance of a bunch of underachievers; however, it would be unbelievably stupid for the coaches not to allow audiblizations at the line if the quarterback could and would do it!
I agree. Would love to see a candid interview with Knapp. But it won’t happen.
By BirdDawg
December 6, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this
Dishonest_abe, you’re a dolt.
And I will continue to ask for the AJC to get tough with the coaches, and that includes them all, Bobby Cox and Mark Richt as well, and ask them challenging question that yes, OH MY GOD! asks them to be accountable for their decisions on the field.
And yes, I am sick and tired of the AJC not asking the coaches tough questions. If the boys in Chicago and New York can do it without fear of reprisal, then so should the guys here at the AJC.
Once again, though, we’ve seen what happens to guys who get tough with the coaches. Matt Winklejohn did that last year, and got a bunch of smart@$$ responses back from that immature, petulant child Jimmy Mora, so he got fed up with it and lost his cool. And now he covers the Bugs.
So maybe it’s not Steve’s fault. He just has a bunch of editors who aren’t interested in REAL sports journalism. They just want reporters who will lob softballs at the coaches so they can keep their “access.” Anyone here Jeff Schultz’s name get called at one of Jimmy Mora’s press conferences lately? Didn’t think so!
And I think that is where the real blame lies. With a bunch of editors who have no spine, no freaking backbone.
There is a reason this rag never gets a single award for journalism. You have to have willing editors, who will back their guys up, in order for their reporters to ask the tough questions and get to the bottom of the issues that we, their readers, want to know about.
SHAME ON YOU, AJC EDITORS!!!
By dirrtybird
December 6, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this
I would think that Knapp would be dying to have his side of the story heard. He is being thrown under every bus in Atlanta. I would want to defend myself, unless the things being said are true… .
Questions I would like asked:
Are your QB’s allowed to audible from pass to running plays and vice versa at the line of scrimmage?
If no. Why not?
How would you grade your own offensive play calling at this point in the season?
Do you believe that you are the best offensive coordinator for Mike Vick?
Is Jim Mora your BFF?
What do you think of the pass protection of the offensive line?
Why can’t we score in the red zone?
Why are Mike’s passing numbers better under Dan Reeves than this current coaching staff?
Why does Roddy White still get playing time?
How do you like the cut blocking scheme that is currently employed?
Where do you think you’ll be coaching if at all next season?
Do you make adjustments at halftime?
Would you rather play with Matt Schaub under center?
How long has Jim Mora been your BFF?
By BirdDawg
December 6, 2006 09:04 PM | Link to this
CHECK OUT SCHULTZIE’S NEW COLUMN
ALTHOUGH HE DOESN’T ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS, AND DOESN’T CALL OUT GREG KNAPP FOR HIS IDIOTIC REASONING FOR NOT LETTING HIS QBS AUDIBLE, HE ASKED THE FREAKING QUESTION.
SOMEONE AT THE PAPER HAS CAJONES AFTER ALL.
By Rick
December 6, 2006 11:05 PM | Link to this
Thank god, Greg Knapp burped and someone was there to write it down for birddog to take to the john and have some private time with the article. Was it good for you birddog? It has got to be a slow day at the drive thru. You spent all day with your panties all bunched up over this audible thing. In an article today Mike said that it would be something he would like to do “down the road”. This guy is still learning. I have said it many times. He would have a hard time reading the menu at the Krystal that you work in, much less read a shifting defense. He has talent, no doubt, he is just a couple fries short of a happy meal. And I do not want to hear any “racist” crap. There are plenty of dumd white folks to. (Ryan Leaf)
By Ken Strickland
December 6, 2006 11:17 PM | Link to this
Sadly, many of these posts represents nothing more than speculation run amuck. Vick, Falcons players, and sports writers, have stated publicly the Falcons have no provision for changing Knapps plays. Common sense should tell you speculators, the reports must be valid since no Falcons coach has disputed these claims.
For an accurate example of an audible see GO DOVES 4:52PM post. An audible is designed to notify, change or modify the play and/or formation for the entire OFF. For that to occur there must be a predetermined system, along with the prerequisite terminology, in place. Knapp’s OFF’s system obviously doesn’t allow that to take place.
Lastly, it appears Vick only changed one play. So, why expect him to take over the playcalling in defiance of Mora and Knapp. He takes enough criticism from numerous morons claiming to be Falcons fans. Why would he invite even more pressure by openly and defiantly challenging his coaching staff? Let’s dialogue with our minds and not our emotions and/or personal issues. GO FALCONS!!!!!!
By BirdDawg
December 7, 2006 07:55 AM | Link to this
What about Greg Knapp, AJC? When is anyone going to talk with Greg Knapp? I’ve got Greg Knapp on my brain and I can not get him out! Get out of my mind Greg Knapp! Get Out! Someone from the AJC please talk with Knapp just so that the rest of the AJC bloggers can for once be spared from my incessant, myopic ranting and raving about Knapp. Please, someone talk with Knapp and ask him the tough questions. The readers of the AJC deserve to have the answers but more importantly the readers deserved to be spared from being even more bored and annoyed with me than they usually are.
Also, y’all, since I, BirdDawg, am the self-proclaimed King of I Told You So, I just wanted to remind all of you for the millionth time that I predicted last spring that JT3 was a terrible QB and that Stafford was a great incoming frosh who deserved to start. I understand that anyone with a brain also had that opinion (the kid was a unanimous top 5 Qb recruit) but I just have this compelling need to remind people over and over and over and yet over again that I myself predicted such last spring. For some reason, I believe that if I tell everyone that I was the lucky scout who went out and recruited Stafford and was the only guy who believed in Stafford, that somehow the rest of you will eventually believe me.
I know. I know. My name is BirdDawg but I really should be called BirdBrain. But for now I would prefer to be called the King of I Told You So.
dyrtybyrd, would you please get an opinion of your own for once and stop riding the coattails of good ole BirdDawg, the self-proclaimed King of I Told You So. I do not need you to be the Bundini to my Ali. Get some original thoughts of your own for once in your life.
yes, folks, this has been a Jesus Was A Black Jew production. Bundini, like Sammy Davis and Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, were all Black Jews.
By JP
December 7, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this
To Mr. Fitzgerald JP is a black man with the average football fans knowledge of the game but a damn dummy knows that if your coaches don’t feel comfortable with your reading of the defense pre snap you will not audible. Because you don’t know what to audible too. Answer me this then when Knapp was san fran and had steve young don’t you think they audibled. And why do you think they audibled because there QB knew what the hell he was doing. Its plain and simple. Now don’t get me wrong I like Vick, but you have to state the facts and the facts are he aint a bright fellow. They had to scale the offense down for him college. But the offense as a whole is garbage including Knapp.
By honest_abe
December 7, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this
JP read the shultz article. i think that just confirms that this whole stupid audible thing is a non-issue! if steve young, who is a hall of famer and had some of his best years there working with knappy head and can count how many times he audibled on one hand then one can assume that being able audible doenst neccessarily constitute success..
i’ve been saying this for some time now. it’s about execution! some of you guys just want ot talk about audibling every single day. how is it that under the same type of system a different team was able to make it to the super bowl? maybe because their receivers actually caught the ball. just a thought. maybe the offense wouldn’t be so horrific, if the receivers had just made a couple of plays.
but you guys just keep crying.. who know’s maybe there is a story there.
bird dung.. you say shultzie had some cajones to write an article about knapp.. all that article did was cement how stupid you really are.
By BirdDawg
December 7, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this
Dishonest-Aberetard…
Thanks for hijacking my handle, jack-@$$.
And you couldn’t be more wrong. All Schultzie’s article did was to prove that Greg Knapp refuses to give this offense its best chance to succeed because that isn’t the way he likes to do things.
Maybe you, as a complete football moron, think its unnecessary for an NFL QB to be aloud to audible, especially when playing behind the worst O-Line in football.
But the rest of us understand just how dumb Greg Knapp is now.
So it proved that.
And the fact that you’re an idiot.
Next time, have the courage to post using your own handle, moron, instead of grabbing my own.
Or do you have a problem with backing up your words, son?
By honest_abe
December 7, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this
bird dung: it’s quite obvious to me now that you are less intelligent that i first thought….
i would never steal your handle. moron. i have never stolen anyone’s handle as i think it is quite childish. seems like there are more people than myself who consider you a complete imbecile.
as for shultz’s article. he basically made the point of saying steve young never audibled and yet had success. there’s your proof that this whole audibling this is NOT crucial to this teams success. go chew on that for a while..
By keeping it real!
December 7, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this
Falcons just run the table.Then we are IN! Win Falcons!
By keeping it real!
December 7, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this
We have to manny sorry coaches in the N.F.L. and it has run amuck. People who know the game are left out of coaching. But the click boys get the jobs. Falcons case in point! Manny retired player pro bowler would love to coach. But never get the chance! It’s who you know not what you know!
By Titothebear
December 7, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
Main Entry: 1amok
Pronunciation: &-‘m&k, -‘mäk Variant(s): or amuck /&-‘m&k/ Function: noun Etymology: Malay amok : a murderous frenzy that has traditionally been regarded as occurring especially in Malaysian culture
You people are running amok with this audible thing. Vick is not allowed to audible because no one could understand his mumblings. Have you heard his commercial for Delta? He needs to become proficient at running programmed plays before he branches out into drawing up his own. Resume running amok!
By Titothebear
December 7, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
Main Entry: 1amok
Pronunciation: &-‘m&k, -‘mäk Variant(s): or amuck /&-‘m&k/ Function: noun Etymology: Malay amok : a murderous frenzy that has traditionally been regarded as occurring especially in Malaysian culture
You people are running amok with this audible thing. Vick is not allowed to audible because no one could understand his mumblings. Have you heard his commercial for Delta? He needs to become proficient at running programmed plays before he branches out into drawing up his own. Resume running amok!
By rufus T. Shyne
December 8, 2006 02:39 AM | Link to this
hemmo facon fan,
I gots a quebtin for dem facon. Does dey get togeder, jine hams and sang we shal obercum bad cochin sum dae, If dey does we be seein dat on telebitchin, Does dey has a ministr prey fer divin hep? Hopes so. Dem fool need all interveshun dey can gets. Peepels is all ebsited cause the facon has won as minny as dey loss. Dunt looke fer dat to las longe. Jus like dem Saint beet the hell out em same true for all de res. facon ain’t no good. 7-9 be wat dey recor gun be. Den when Stuperbowl over facon fan ferget how bad facon was. Dey start tawkin bout nex year an how gud facon gun be. facon aint gun be gud. facon gun be facon-one of werse team ever in nfl Gudnite facon fan
By MusicED
December 8, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this
Rufus T Shyne……..That is funny but true!!!!
By Steve T
December 8, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this
Honest Abe, Steve Young had Jerry Rice. If we have a player like Jerry we might be as successful. We do not have anyone on the team that can catch a 5 yard slant and turn it into a 95 yard TD.
By bigdawg88
December 10, 2006 07:42 AM | Link to this
Anybody read Dan Reeves’ comments? He says the WC offense (& the variation we run) is not an audible system. Obviously the offense is supposed to take what the defense gives them and make plays.
Unfortunately, the Falcons have terrible pass-blocking and some below average receivers. You can’t check down if your line can’t block, and that goes for ALL qbs. And its hard to throw to someone who doesn’t get open.
Lets stop blaming Vick and start blaming the organization for putting those crappy players around him!!! Mckay doesn’t seem to be good at selecting offensive players - just look at Tampa Bay! Especially when it comes to OL and WRs. Maybe we need to get an offensive GM to pick offensive players and just let Mckay pick the defensive players.
By dirtybyrd
December 10, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
just the fact vick and company changed play and it was a touchdown is proof that we as a team can win maybe in next weeks coaches will wake up and get in game 2 lets hope for more change.better play from players will get it done or not/ this game will tell all. the end is near.