Falcons

By Greg

November 27, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

What an excellent opportunity to see what Schuab has in his holster. Bench Vick for a game, and see if Schaub can cause White and Jenkins to catch anything.

By byebyebirdy

November 27, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Fine, whatever. I’m sure he’s feeling pressure. He should still be held out from starting. Receivers should go.

Why haven’t we heard about coaching staff firings yet? It’s 3:30 in the afternoon.

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

OK we’ve heard Vick’s apology.

When will Deangelo Hall apologize for giving up the touchdown at the half or for getting burned for 75 yards on the 3rd play of the game and then tacking an extra 15 on with a personal foul?

When will Roddy White apologize for dropping passes all season?

When will Greg Knapp apologize for running the same tired plays over and over?

When will Jim Mora apologize for putting out an undisciplined team week in and week out? Why is Deangelo Hall allowed to constantly cost his team yardage in penalties? Why do we even have a head coach? The players are not fearful of him.

When does Rich McKay apologize for drafting wide receivers who can’t catch the ball?

When do the the Atlanta Falcons fans apologize for being the worst fair weather fans in football?

When does Arthur Blank apologize and lower prices?

When do we start rooting for losses so that we can get a draft pick and some new coaches?

I think the time for all of these questions is NOW!

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

I agree with Greg. Suspend Vick for a game for flipping the fans off, and watch Schaub play behind this excuse we call an offensive line. Since Roddy White is a back up receiver, maybe he can catch a pass from the back up QB.

By honest_abe

November 27, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

i’ve been a huge mike vick supporter since the falcons made him the first overall pick.. and while i realize this current slide is not entirely his fault(horrific receivers, a d that goes home by the 3rd quarter, an inept offensive line, a moron for an offensive coordinator)… it’s time for a change.

there’s just no excuse for vick’s actions yesterday after the game. however frustrated he might have been.. it doesn’t give him the right to flick off HIS fans.

sit vick for one week.

give schaubie a chance!

By John from Dunwoody

November 27, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

Screw Vick. Suspend him for the year. Suspend him next year. After that, release him. He sucks. He is an unperforming rapster-gangster, not a football player. The only thing Vick can lead is a gang. The sooner the Falcons can get rid of him, the quicker they can legitimately make a claim towards being a solid team.

By Jorge

November 27, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

VICK SUCKS. GET RID OF HIM. THE SOONER, THE BETTER.

By Jimmie

November 27, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Turn Vick into a 3rd down Back.

By William Kitchens

November 27, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

The end of the Mora, Knapp and Vick era is coming soon. All three I doubt… but together this combo has had it’s run.

And what’s up the kiss to the helmet Mora gave Vick. Is he not coddled enough?

I could say a lot more but no one here really cares… Everyone has probably already made up their own minds about this team and orgainization.

By JIM MORA

November 27, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick is a coach killer.

By Sir Stealth

November 27, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

The idea that Michael Vick flicked off “his fans” or fans who paid to support the team is a joke. Vick was flicking off all the bandwagon Atlanta fans who love to put all the blame on his shoulders and wanted to put this loss on him even though he was the only glimmer of hope the Falcons had in this game. I don’t buy people who say they have supported Vick all along but now think he is a “thug” and that his actions were “inexcusable.” I don’t agree that its unreasonable to keep defending Vick now or that doing so makes one a “Vick apologist,” the man’s coaching staff, receiving corps, and o-line are derailing what should be a great career. You can add “Atlanta” “fans” to that list.

By Dan

November 27, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

You know all you have to do is look at who the coaches named as captains to see they don’t get it Vick (well you kind of have to have the QB leader or not) D Hall please cornerbacks have to be selfish almost by definition but he takes the cake stupid penalty after getting burned trying to pad his stats instead of knocking down the hail mary and I dont know if it is visable on tv but as the outside rusher on the def PA tries he was walking to the sideline as the ball was kicked 3 times! Oh yeah Rossom was the other captain. With leaders like that, you get efforts like we saw, selfish and finger pointing

By Phat Phalcon

November 27, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Hey Greg just a shot in the dark-your last name isn’t Knapp is it? Hey did you guys see the photo of my son with his poster asking to coach the team?

By bushwacker

November 27, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

If Mora wants to keep his job he better fire Knapp and Donatell now and try ro hire Ralph Friedgen and George O ‘Leary.

By Sir Stealth

November 27, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

I also wonder how anyone can think that its “playing the race card” or some unreasonably far leftist position to characterize a significant portion of the criticism of Vick as racist. Note how many people now call him “thug” or “rapster-gangster.” I’m white and its just obvious - this city should be embarassed. I don’t dispute that Vick’s play has been erratic, but I agree with the man - put him in a different situation and the sky’s the limit. Instead we have our present rock bottom. But let the hypocrites come out and act like they’ve never flipped the bird to someone who was being an a-hole. Let them call the quarterback of our (are you really from Atlanta?) a dumb thug gangsta rappa who should play wide receiver or running back. All you end up with is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

By jg

November 27, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

Keep in mind, Blank is running a business. He would rather go 8-8 and be more profitable than go 11-5 and be less profitable. It’s tough to win a championship when profitability is part of the equation. If you want to walk into a box and support that on a gorgeous Sunday afternoon, that’s fine. But don’t be surprised when you’re flipped off.

By Pink-o elaphant men of GOP

November 27, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

Blame Vick for it all ! The classless fans at the tunnel started it all and I guess they have no blame in this.Is all Vick what a bunch of hypocrite. This part of the system to kill steal and destory. What was the cause the fans started it all. He did not start at them they stated at the falcons. I guess because they buy a ticket they can do player any old way. AJC what about the classless fans. Pure hypocrite!!!!!!

By bushwacker

November 27, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

It’s been 24 hrs and Roddy White still has a job? They are not serious about winning!!

By LT

November 27, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

Well put. Michael Vick is a THUG. Always has/always will. And when you see him in post game, he looks like he belongs to a gang. The guy sucks. I don’t know why we drafted him. I’ve been wondering that for years. The guy is pathetic. For him, the sky is a blowout superbowl loss. The guy doesn’t have what it takes.

By bushwacker

November 27, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

Leave Vick alone, he played a hell of a game,and the fact he was backing his teamates after that performance SAYS ALOT ABOUT VICK THE MAN!

Mike, the fans who actually watched the game are behind you 100%!

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

John from Dunwoody,

Which gang is Vick leading? Which rap album are you referring to? What makes Vick a gangster? Is it flipping the bird? Well if so, then I know that I’m a gangster, and so is my little sister. Is it getting arrested? I know that Vick has never been arrested but Matt Schaub has. Please explain. Perhaps you have some inside information? Surely that’s not an ignorant stereotypical comment? We’re really confused. Thanks.

Remember when Vick gave up that touchdown to New Orleans at the dn of the half?

Remember when Vick gave up 185 return yards to Baltimore and cost us the game?

Remember when Vick got burned by a back up receiver for a 75 yard touchdown on the 3rd play of the New Orleans game?

Remember when Vick got on his cell phone to get clarification on something that should have been addressed at the beginning of the week?

Remember when Roddy White dropped that pass because Vick could only hit him in the chest with it?

Remember when Vick repeatedly wasnt’ able to provide pass protection to himself for more than 2-3 seconds in the pocket?

Remember when Vick constantly was involved in all fights and skirmishes and led his team in negative penalty yardage?

Remember when Hines Ward ran right by Vick with one shoe on to score a touchdown?

Let’s face it people. When you have 11 Pro Bowlers on your team, yet the ENTIRE team plays bad, you don’t blame your QB. You blame the coaches. How does San Francisco have the same record as us? They knew who to let go. Guess who picked up all of those mediocre coaches and players?

Jim Mora runs an undisciplined team, which allows Deangelo Hall to constantly run his mouth and cost his team. It allows Mike Vick to flip off his fans(even though ATL fans deserve it). It allows your offensive Coordinator to neutralize the most dynamic player in the league. What kind of head coach says “I’m not going to tell Mike to protect the football”? What kind of coach allows D Hall to give up penalty yardage and the selfish play he tried at the end of the half? Why was he going for an INT? was he going to return it 100 yards? NO. He was trying to pad his stats instead of win the game.

If I run this team, then Vick and Hall are benched this week. Knapp is fired today and the entire organization is on notice that they may not make it to Christmas. This season is lost. Let’s see who wants to be here next year.

By Shica

November 27, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

First of all, all yall haters need to get off Mike Vick because that’s still the best QB in the league, can’t no other QB do what he do and all yall lame, life-less haters know it. And he 1st round, 1st pick not yall lames so get over it he still and will always be the best, And ain’t no FAN got no business messing with him in the first place, I could care-less if he lose these other games he still the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So go try to fine yall a life, instead of worrying if he gone be fined.

By Sir Stealth

November 27, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

MICHAEL VICK IS PATHETIC. I WISH WE DRAFTED LADANIAN TOMLINSON INSTEAD.

THE ONLY QB IN THE LEAGE I’D PREFER VICK OVER IS HIS SLACKER BROTHER AND DANTE CULPEPPER. HEY DENVER. CAN WE HAVE JAKE PLUMMER? THAT WILL GREATLY UPGRADE THE FALCONS.

By BirdMahhn

November 27, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

So there are people who will NEVER forgive Vick? These people are the shallowest people on the planet. I wouldn’t want them as friends, relatives…or fans of the Falcons. Get over it dweebs…whomever you are.

By John from Dunwoody

November 27, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

HEY dirrtybird,

The way Vick looks, acts, talks, dresses, and holds himself suggests that he is either a gangster or classless music rapster. Or both.

By byebyebirdy

November 27, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

It’s not all Vick’s fault, that’s correct. He should still be benched for a game, or as I suggested above, at least held out for a quarter…something, anything.

But to totally dismiss Vick’s dismal numbers is missing the point. Yeah, his receivers suck…SUCK, and should all be cut. But he (Vick) also needs to be reevaluated as well.

If nothing else some symbolic messages need to be sent immediately.

And btw, being critical of the team you support with cash isn’t being a bandwagon lunkhead by any stretch of the imagination. The organization owes EVERYTHING to its fans because the organization wouldn’t exist were it not for them.

By StillDirtyBirdin

November 27, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

Was it just me or did it look like Vick was actually gesturing toward specfic person/s. He did not give a Jack McDowell rousing finger wave, nor a blind Randy Moss moonshine to whomever was in the crowd. I believe, as many have posted, that was an address to whomever was heckling the team. When before has he shown this type of attitude? Vick has been a leader for his team. In the same interview that people cite where he said “we need to find ways to catch the ball” he also added “maybe i need to make more plays myself….throw the ball better”. This sounds much better than Peyton “laser, rocket arm” Mannings assesment of his O-line’s play after they lost to Pittsburgh or Matt Leinart’s post game after losing to VY in the Rose. He doesn’t throw people under the bus, unlike even the head coach’s father did in an attempt to insulate Mora Jr.’s let downs this season. From a marketing standpoint obviously Blank is/will not be happy about the situation, but VICK IS THE FRANCHISE. We all know that all will be forgiven once the ‘cones start winning again- particularly given ATL’s fairweather nature.

On another note, fans need to stop being so D@mn sensative anyway. We expect to be able to berate players we supposedly cheer for when they are giving their all, but coming up a little short and not expect any reprisal? It would be foolish and short sighted to blame this one on #7. Get off your high horses. David Justice was right- and the fans forgave him as they all lined up Peachtree to take his picture at the WS parade.

By phar71

November 27, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

HOW IS THIS LOSING THIS GAME VICKS FAULT?! He can not throw, run and catch the ball all at the same time. If I were Vick I would have fought the receivers on the sideline. I was almost left the game after Roddy White’s drop near the goal-line. And what is the deal with Crump only getting one ball thrown his way?

By Shica

November 27, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

First of all screw you not Mike Vick, you wish you was as talented you low-life, Mike is still and will always be the best and I’m behind him 1,000,000% and screw the fans that don’t know how to support the players.

And for everybody who mentioned Mike Vick, D-Hall, Roddy White and etc. screw all yall cause thats what this team is about of course Roddy was dropping passes but if the score was ATL 31 and NO 13 none of yall haters won’t have nothing to say so get a life, and hop up off my men!!!!!!

By A D

November 27, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

John of Dunwoody - A “rapster-gangster”..LOL! You are clearly XENOPHOBIC and very IRGNORANT!

Sir Stealth - great post! You are dean on regarding fair weather fans!!

By byebyebirdy

November 27, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

And yr’ right dirrtybird…D Fall is WAAAY overrated. Perception is greater than reality…

He ain’t no probowler.

By Fan01

November 27, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

All I can say is who really cares if they forgive them or not. It happened so now get over it.

By Phat Phalcon

November 27, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

Vick shouldn’t get a pass from anyone on the bird flip. He is THE face of the team and flipped off the people who pay his salary. If you think about it there’s very little difference between this incident and the Michael Richards deal. Richards was banned from the club after losing his cool. Or is the n word worse now than the f word? hmmm…

By Shica

November 27, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

Whoever this Sir Stealth is SHUT-UP you just like a lame white boy and you needs to get up off my man!!!!! I’m sure you can’t play football, maybe GOLF or HOCKEY!!!!!!

By EW

November 27, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

Calm down people, it is not the end of the world, so he flipped the finger, get over it. Anyone can lose their cool and he did, accept his apology and move on. Now, with this said…Vick is an excellent QB, but the best in the NFL? No. Maybe thats the part of the problem, we have way to high of hopes for him to be able to live up to the expectations we have placed on him. He is nowhere in the league of a P. Manning or Brady, and thats a fact. Let it go, relax…breath, enjoy Christmas.

By vick_is_sick

November 27, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

OMFG vick flipped the bird…call the CIA, call National Homeland Security, call President Bush to get a team of monkeys disecting this horrible terroristic activity.

hey, as a true falcon fan, i wish this was the biggest concern the falcons have. the falcons have major issues and at the bottom of a long list is a freaking finger.

remember when the GA dome was cheering an injured chris chandler because mike vick was about to make his debut? those are the same pathetic fans that act with much less class than our players.

By keep it real!

November 27, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

What kind of fans do we have in the ATL. The press has been on Vick all week, coaches Dad on him fans on him. Team mates not pull there load.I was at the game yes he was Pi$$. He has been catching hell working his A$$ off and this clue less bunch of fans we have .MR. Blank Other player around the NFL are watching this. You need good player don’t let media and some clue less fan run player away because of SOME of our fans, you use you head. A lot of player want to come to Atlanta. But Don’t run future play off by clue less clown we for fan not all but some. The clowns at the tunnel is part of the problem that happen yesterday . Don’t just blame Vick , the class less clown fans were in it !to!

By bill

November 27, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

L Tomlinson…..M Vick. Tomlinson….Vick 2 great running backs, unfortunately ours is a quarterback

By Atlanta is full of idiots!

November 27, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

I am a big Vick fan, and yes, what he did was wrong. But, Atlanta fans are so stupid that they deserve to lose, because they are all a bunch of LOSERS anyway! Besides that, only the AJC would be pathetic enough to ask people to send in pics of the flip-off. I forgive Vick for what he did, because he made a mistake. He is human, for Christ sake! So to all you perfect Atlanta d******* out there, GO F*CK YOURSELF! P.S. I live out of state, THANK GOD!

By D1 Truth

November 27, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

Vick flipping off fans is not cool. What it may take is a change of scenery. Maybe the birds should trade him. But I will say this, the team that gets him will love him. And when he has success with that other team, all of the dumb a*******e$ that wanted him gone will speak as if they were the very ones upset when we traded him. And believe me folks, for all of you that are calling on Schaub, wait until the offseason, when DCs begin to game plan for him. These guys get paid to look at a QBs every tendency. I’m not saying he is going to fail but the history of backup QBs show that there was a reason they were backups.

In reference to the coaching, I actually like Mora but his inexperience has shown through for the past two years. In other words, when adversity has hit his team, he didn’t know what to do. My predictions are as follow: Knapp and Donatell will be jettison. What bothers me about Knapp is that he should’ve been in the booth and not on the field. This caught up with him in San Francisco and its catching up with him in the ATL. How in the heck can you see what the D is doing, when you are at eye level? How can you make adjustments to your game plan when you can’t see the entire field? This is why he keeps calling the same tired plays. This is why when the team got into the RZ they couldn’t score touchdowns because he is 30+ yds away from the field and at an angle.

By honest_abe

November 27, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

dirtybird.. vick gets the blame because he gets paid 100+mil dollars and is the face of this franchise… maybe he has smallish, weak inept offensive lineman because this team CAN’T AFFORD ANY DECENT ONE’S.. so considering the lack of funds …the birds can’t sign a high profile receiver the falcons have to use their first round pick on receivers for two straight years! i’m not putting all the blame on mike vick.. but the fact of the matter is this current team is built around him… and this current team .. for a lack of a better word blows!

check eli in ny… he gets all the blame too.. don’t know if that’s fair or not… but in the nfl.. THE QUARTERBACK gets the praise if the TEAM does well and he get all the criticism if the team under performs.. so please get over the fact that vick is getting thrown under the bus.. it’s the nature of this business… besides the guy needs more accountability..

his comments on hbo lacked class and is completely inexcusable for a team leader to say those kind of things…

for me the issue of mike vick has never been black or white.. shoot i could care less if he was green…. but after admantly standing up for him for the better part of six years… i’m sick of his immaturity (flicking off fans after a game, calling out his offensive coordinator, receivers to the national media) his sensitivity (his tirade after the miami game, something about “dont’ criticize me no more”), his lack of accountability (two weeks ago when he said “i’m not perfect” = nobody is mike, but bad choice of words, him always blaming the system for his shoddy passing numbers) …. the bottom line is mike vick has regressed as a player and as a leader. he is ill fit to lead this franchise and i believe he must be replaced.

By NOSLIM

November 27, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

While you all or still letting Vick think he is a great quarterback, think about what the position as a quarterback requires you to do. Lead the team, pass and be able to get out of the pocket. Vick is overrated and overpaid. Just because he can scramble doesn’t make him a great quarterback. He’s a show man, great for video highlights. When he start to utilize his players more, he might begin to look like a quarterback. Until then, you fools can continue to think he’s the greatest but he’s as far away from being a great quarterback as anyone can get. Now he would make a great wide receiver since he likes to run. When Mora stop kissing up to him to keep his job maybe he will coach and make him be a team player. There’s no “I” in team. Use Dunn, Norwood, Crumpler, etc. to make it happen. So what if the rookies drop the ball. You have some of the greatest receivers that drop the ball many times. Get real and look at him for what he is. A self-centered jackass.

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

John from Dunwoody,

I’m sorry, I’m still not quite clear. Can you describe how Vick “looks”, acts, talks, dresses, and holds himself? I’m wondering if there might be anyone else in the NFL like this too that needs to be brought to light. Once again, I’m totally assuming that you don’t drive a pick up truck and watch NASCAR whenever it’s on. Please enlighten us on these “gangsters” so that the league and the people supporting it might be safer at future games. Good looking out. We don’t want anyone getting hurt by the “gangsters” or “rapsters”.

By Atlanta is full of idiots!

November 27, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

I’m glad Vick flipped the fans off. THEY HAVE NO CLASS! I got the hell out of Atlanta because I got sick of all the idiots there!

By FAN

November 27, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

Can you imagine Peyton Manning giving the bird to his fans?

By keep it real!

November 27, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

John from dunwoody have you looked at your kids ! are they Thug! classless fans. do un to other what you want done to you!

By StillDirtyBirdin

November 27, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

SORRY, NON-FOOTBALL REBUTTAL/CORRECTION: Actually Richards was banned for not apologizing as he said he would. He performed the next night at the club, even following his remarks. Vick at least thought enough to apologize the same day…….

By Tom in NC

November 27, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

I have been a flcons fan since I moved to Atl in 1974. I even rented an apt to Gen Lee the Qback then. I suffered as all of you through the Smith years. I thought it was the smiths that were the problem. As you can see there is an attitude in atl about football that causes us to lose our perspective. Every team has succeeded some way but not the falcons. I wqs concerned when they drafted Vick because of his size. After the first season I was abeleiver because I thought the coaching staff could teach him just as the Panthers taught Jake and Parcells has done with Roma. He definitely screwed up shootin the double barreled birds but he is about the same size as Steve Young was and he was fantastic. Let’s clean house, get some smart coaches, good, not great receivers and pay steve young to be the QB coach $1,000,000 a year and I think you will see a super bowl within 3-4 years. I can wait after all I went to lowest attended game ever when the facons played their last game of the season in 1975 I think. 40,000 no shows. I live in NC now but will alays be a falcon fan. Don’t give up or get mad just wait for a correct decision by Arthur Blank….he really seems to care more than the smiths did. Oh well we will soon find out. Go Falcons!!!

By Russ

November 27, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

I’d like to see Blank admit he made a mistake by getting rid of Reeves and bring him back. Vick looked more comfortable in his first season as a starter under Reeves than he ever has under Mora/Knapp. The only reason Mora went to the NFC championship is because teams were still adjusting to Vick’s unique abilities as a quarterback. Now teams know how to defend Vick and the current coaching staff has had almost 2 full seasons to counter what teams are doing to them and have not come up with a successful formula yet. Bring back Reeves and I think Vick would be fine. If you get rid of Mora, but replace him with someone besides Reeves I think you might as well get rid of Vick too and start fresh with a new QB.

By Will Blog for Food

November 27, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

I was getting my hair cut today at local barbershop and everyone there was talking about Vick’s flip - and not happy about it. I’m a Vick fan but I agree with others who think Mora should bench him the next game since Mora’s in danger of losing this team (or has already lost it?) and needs to instill some discipline. Plus the shake-up might be what the Falcons need (a la Romo with Cowboys). But Mora has no balls so it won’t happen. I did hear some people are talking about wearing Vick jerseys with black X’s taped over the 7 at the Cowboys game. If the Cowboys blow out the Falcons things could get ugly…

By FalconsFanHere

November 27, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

dirrtybird says it best in his/her posts so there’s no need to rehash the obvious. It has been a total team effort in losing these games.

Last week, after Mora Sr. made those comments about Vick, I thought that if Mora Jr. had any balls, he would have come out and defended his QB immediately and used it to motivate the team. Sadly, I saw or read none of that. They say in baseball that when a team is doing poorly, since you can’t fire the players, you fire the manager. I like the idea of Knapp being canned today…and the rest being given the heave-ho if they don’t turn this ship around pretty darned fast.

By chichi

November 27, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

F**ck all you fair weather fans id flip you b*** off to. Arthur let heads roll, trade schaub get more picks

By Wes

November 27, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

However, losses and poor play by the quarterback will compound the issue and No. 7 won’t be feeling the same type of love he’s received in this town when he comes running out of that tunnel Dec. 16 against the Dallas Cowboys.

Oh yeah, the love for this tremendous athlete amazing. Fans calling for Schaub, who has a sub 50% completion and no wins, to start. Fans saying Vick is a running back not a QB. Yeah, I feel the love.

By Homet

November 27, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

The Falcons best bet is put in Schaub as our #1 Quarterback and make our vastly overrated and overpaid current quarterback (VICK)a runningback (this is where his true talent lies…assuming someone can actually teach him to hold on to the ball!!!)

By PatriotNation

November 27, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

This just shows how different the philosophies of running a football team can be. Some throw money at the problem and try to pay their way to success. Others face the problem with a full on plan of financial responsibility and player accountability. We were criticized for not paying players what they want and letting them move on to greener pastures. But look at the different out comes. Football is more then just physical talent. It’s mindfulness, awareness, and being accountable for every action you take, top to bottom, from the owners, and the coaches, to the players, right down to the last person on the totem pole. No one person is better or worse then the other. Thankfully we are blessed with a group of owners, coaches, players, and fans that get it. I hope things work out for Atlanta. It seems like such a waste when things like this happen. Good luck down there.

By tony

November 27, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

After I finally had Shica’s comments translated, I think he said Mike Vick was the best QB in the league. Shica, have you ever even seen a football game? Move Vick to where he belongs-wide receiver or running back, put Schaub in at QB. It’s not a demotion. Do you think Steve Smith is less of a star because he’s not QB? No, he’s Carolina’s best playmaker and Vick can still be, too. Schaub has too much upside to waste away on the bench. The coaches have to figure out a way to get them both in the lineup.

By Lynne

November 27, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

These are the most hypocritical people on the planet. Vick should still be flipping birds to these nuts. Half these people have never attended one game and are only bashing Vick because the mere thought of this young man making more than they can actually comprehend drives them crazy. For goodness sakes, let it go! Stop being so jealous!

By Shica

November 27, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

First of all whoever LT is you ain’t LaDainian so RE-NAME yourself, and Mike Vick don’t suck, And forget about him looking like a gang member cause he don’t, he the richest NFL player, so he can wear whatever the hell he want, So how about you go RE-NAME yourself, then go slap yourself O.K.

By John from Dunwoody

November 27, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Hey dirrtybird

I can explain how or why vick is like who he is. He just is. Are there other people in the NFL like that??? I would assume so.

There is a place for this gangster/thug/rapster crap. It’s called the NBA.

By D1 Truth

November 27, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

Sitting a QB for flipping off a fan!!!! Would you expect the Braves to make Smoltz skip a start because he flipped off a heckler? Would you expect the Hawks to bench Joe Johnson for flipping off a heckler? Heck no!!!! If Vick flipped off a heckler after winning a playoff game, how many of you would say sit him? Get real, the reason most want to sit the guy is because people want to see Schaub play. Let’s call a spade a spade. These are grown a$$ men playing a violent sport. If Vick flipped off the guy and then walked toward him, then yes, you sit his a$$. But to flip someone off?!?!?! Hell I flip off people in my car. Should I be suspended a day from driving?

By sleepy

November 27, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

vick has never and never will be a QB. the man cant throw. yes there have been dropped passes. but, anytime a QB runs for more yardage than he throws is not a good thing. it seems selfish that he would rather run with the ball. give schaub a chance. what is there to lose?

By barry

November 27, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

You people on this blog classify Vick as a thug because of the way he acts,dresses and talks. That is not a definition of a thug. Have any of you ever seen the way Brett Farve dresses at a press conference? with skoal in his mouth and a Budweiser cap on. Have you ever heard him speak? doesn’t sound very intellegent either.Why do we call Vick a thug because he likes rap music thats his choice he is still young,thats what young people listen to these days.So get off of Vick because he is young Black & rich !

By FalconsFanHere

November 27, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

One other thing for all of you Vick bashers.

If our receivers just do their freakin’ job and catch those 5 drops, all of a sudden he’s 14-24 for a respectable 180-200 yards and the team has a good chance to win the game. Tack on his 150 rushing yards and that’s a pretty good afternoon.

On the other hand, if our defense does their freakin’ job and don’t give up the hail mary and the Saints receivers don’t make those 5 fantastic catches on so-so throws, Bree’s is a very average 15-30 for probably around 250 yards.

And another vent, would it be too much to ask our defense to get a turnover or a stop when it really mattered?

Why so many of you want to blame it all on Vick is beyond me.

By Gary

November 27, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

Is Mike Bobo available? Fire them all

By Shica

November 27, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

YOU ALL, I AM JUST KIDDING.

GET RID OF OVERPAID MICHAEL VICK AND HIS SORRY GAME AND LOWSY ATTITUDE. HOW ABOUT OFFERING MICHAEL VICK TO THE EAGLES FOR A 3RD ROUND PICK. HE COULD UNITE WITH DONOVAN MCNABB TO FORM THE WORSTE QB DUO IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS HISTORY.

By D1 Truth

November 27, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

FYI: Schaub will be traded in the offseason. The last thing any organization wants is controversy around its QB. And guess what, Blank is a business man and Vick is staying in Atlanta. Next year, I will be interested to see how many people will be on here begging for DJ Shockley to QB. At least we’ll know for a fact that it won’t be racial.

By NEW JERSEY FALCON

November 27, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

Who the heck cares about some fingers. The real problem are the hands (or lack thereof) of the wide recievers. Lay-off vick, he put the team on his back and he was gettin level for staying in the pocket. All far dropped balls. Hell yea I would be frustrated. If I was him you would be lucky to get the finger. If you don’t like vick than choose another team…cuz he aint goin no where. The team lost this one. Not just vick. I love the falcons. And I live 900 miles north. So all you cry babies SHUT UP. My team is in trouble. I don’t like the play calling on both sides. Like everything this also has a solution…and it aint the QB. Scrap the cut blockin scheme. Build the great wall of china in front of vick. Bring back the pro-style offense back. All the defense needs is health and depth. With that formula the falcons will be unstopable….period

By Will Blog for Food

November 27, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

But D1 Truth, then people will say it’s “Conferencism”: SEC (UGA) vs. ACC (VA Tech)…

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

John from Dunwoody,

You still havent’ described what makes someone a gangster/thug/rapster? I’m totally afraid to go to games now. I can’t tell the good guys from the gangsters. Please tell me how a gangster dresses so that I can avoid these dangerous people.

Are you referring to his use of athletic wear? Surely a professional athlete should be allowed to wear athletic wear on and off the field right? I mean there are all kinds of “non-athletes” already wearing it.

Please, for my childrens safety, let us all know what makes Mike Vick a Gangster/Thug/Rapster so that I can look out for these people on the street! I’m already scared of anyone who flips the bird at this point, including myself.

Silly me, i’ve been scared of people driving around with rifles in their trucks, when this whole time I should be scared of Mike Vick.

Please clear this up, and thanks so much for your community service John from Dunwoody.

By BLEED RED AND BLACK

November 27, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it funny how gets blamed for EVERYTHING that goes wrong with this team? I DO appreciate the true fans that understand that this in fact a TEAM sport. For ALL YOU BANDWAGONERS who think that a Vick should be benched for a game and let #8 start PLEASE!! His(#8) win total for the games he has started is still ZERO.(Some of those starts I even think we led in the game at some point)For all you bandwagoners, that thinks #7 needs to sit, be traded etc….STEP AWAY FROM THE METH. It’s obvious that you probably NEVER played an organized sport in your life(Flag Football at your college doesn’t count). FOR THOSE OF YOU SO BENT OUT OF SHAPE about the “DUAL DIRTY BIRDS” he displayed to your sometimey behind after the game( I can only say he probably should have used a “little” more self control.)marinate on this, Let’s not forget that #7 had to field all those “coach killer” calls because of Bonehead Jr’s Dad. Bonehead Sr. should have known better!!!(By the Bonehead Sr didn’t accomplish ANYTHING while he was in the league(must be sour grapes).MOST OF YOU CAN’T handle being criticized on the piece of job that you have, Yet Mike has to deal with hundreds of media folk day in and day out & STILL prepare for the upcoming opponent but you want to pass judgement on #7 because he flipped off some BANDWAGON JUMPERS because his some of his KEY personnel can’t step and make a play but opposing receivers can make “circus catches” on our defense.PLEASE!!!STEP AWAY FROM THE METH. TRUE FANS APPRECIATE THE EFFORT HE GAVE AND REALIZE THE REAL PROBLEM. I would like to see Peyton Manning behind our GARBAGE O-LINE and have to play with that middle school receiving core and several different offensive coordinators. Bottom line Bonehead Jr. was mediocre in S.F. and that’s all he will ever be.FIRE MORA LET HIM RETIRE TO THE BROADCAST BOOTH WITH HIS DAD!

By Phat Phalcon

November 27, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

D1 have any of the people you have flipped off been customers? Anyone who has customer service responsibility has been yelled at by unreasonable people venting against the company. Vick flipped them off- in front of the boss. Your manager at Wendy’s would’ve fired you on the spot.

By A3 Lie

November 27, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

D1 TRUTH, YOU ARE A JOKE. THAT’S A STUPID NAME TOO. D1 TRUTH??? THAT’S DUMB!

By tyyosh

November 27, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

I absolutely love watching Vick when he is “on”, like his 2nd year - unstoppable in 4th qtr. But observing from a distance, he does not seem to handle adversity well (cold, playing from behind, etc.) which is very important for a QB leader. Further, is there tension developing between Vick and Crumpler, judging from the comments?

If someone else has to play, I want to skip Schaub and go straight to DJ, a true leader with speed, arm, and high QB football IQ.

By TD

November 27, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

Hey, John from Dunwoody your keen psychological insights are truly incredible:

I can explain how or why vick is like who he is. He just is. Are there other people in the NFL like that??? I would assume so. W-O-W!!! Did you come to this conclusion all by yourself or did you Daddy help you out?

You certainly appear to be a complete and total moron and you confirm it with you comment on the NBA!

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

You wouldn’t be fired on the spot at Wendy’s if you were the only one who knew how to work the cash register.

By D1 Truth

November 27, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

Will Blog for Food, that’s funny - besides I’m a ‘Big Ten guy’ and we Big Ten boys dominate between the lines.

Two last points - - the birds are not going to sit Vick with the playoffs on the line. Also, the only way Schaub plays is if Vick gets hurt. McKay is not stupid. Why let Schaub play behind an awful line, look awful and/or get hurt. Talk about his trade value declining. Remember Doug Johnson, I bet the Falcons wish they had traded him a year earlier.

By KENNY

November 27, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

Vick is not perfect. He is far from it. BUT VICK IS NOT A THUG.

If you listen to him talk, you would realize that he actually is a nerd who happens to come from the ghetto. MV7 is one of those nerds who played ball during the day his whole life and then sat in house playing madden on nintendo, sega, and playstation all night.

that is hard for many of you to understand. you see a black man having a certain look and talking a certain way and you make simplistic assumptions about him.

How would you all feel if everyone came on here and said that Earnhardt, Jr. never wins because well look at the way he dresses and talks, he looks and sounds like a stupid redneck, so that is why he never wins because he is just a stupid redneck? The fact that he looks and talks like he is a southern boy from NC does not define anything about who he is or how productive he is. Just the same way that the fact that mike vick is a southern boy from a horrible section of the worst part of Virginia does not define who he is or how productive he is.

Vick has never been in trouble, never suspended for drugs, never gets into fights, has never been arrested, never goes TO on his coaches and team, and really does not do anything Thuglike.

He looks thuggish because of how he was raised and where he comes from.

Does he need to change his look a little bit? Of course.

It is fine to have a certain look whether it be the hippie, redneck, drifter, freak, goth, thug, pretty boy, fly guy, guido, slick, frat boy, stoner, or thug look when you are in your late teens or early twenties.

But once you are between the ages of 21-25 and you take on responsibilites, as my dad always tells me you got to put on a damn suit and look like a man. pull up your darn pants, take off the baggy points, take off the bling, take off the hippie jewelry, shave the goatee, get rid of the perpetual 5 o’clock shadow, get yourself a conservative haircut, etc. my pops drives me nuts with that crap. but he of course is right. At some point, Vick and the rest of us need to grow up that way. Professional athletes are given more leeway to express their individuality than the rest of us but at some point they need to grow up.

However, to call Vick a thug even though he does not do anything thuggish is just plain ignorant and I hate to go here because I can’t stand that this blog always turns into perpetual race baiting session but it is racist to call Vick a thug.

Flipping fans off is immature and inexcusable. But I can understand where he is coming from. Just read these blogs. There were almost 600 responses to the Bird Babe yesterday. Weren’t most of us using these blogs, as we do every week, to give every single person in the falcons orgainization the proverbial finger, as most of us do en masse following every freaking frustrating game? Hasn’t every UGA fan been blawging the season away giving the program the proverbial bird? Didn’t the whole state blog like nuts this weekend and have the whole state give reggie ball a collective big middle finger?

Black Jack McDowell flipped off the Yankees fans back in 1995 and no one called him a thug. The yankees fans had been riding him hard the whole season because he was underperforming and he finally snapped and gave everyone the finger. Of course, the fans got onto him a game or two after the flipping the bird incident but after that everyone was cool with him because he finally showed that he cared as much as the fans did.

Schaub is the one who was arrested during a bye week during his rookie year. Does that make Schaub a thug? No. It just means that he was a stupid young man who probably went to one too many bars, had too many beers, and was out at too late an hour just like many of us were a time or two when we were twenty two.

SO ATL fans grow up.

AND ATL fans, if you are going to criticize the man, the team, the coaches, the management, don’t you at least owe it to the team TO GET OFF YOUR BUTTS, STOP SITTING ON YOUR HANDS, IN THE 4TH QUARTER WHEN THE OTHER TEAM IS IN A THIRD DOWN SITUATION DEEP ON YOUR SIDE OF THE FIELD.. HERE IS A LITTLE ADVICE FAIRWEATHER PATHETIC FANS: GOOD NFL FANS CHANT DEFENSE!! DEFENSE!! DEFENSE!! ON THIRD DOWNS DEEP IN YOUR TEAM’S SIDE OF THE FIELD DURING 4TH QUARTERS OF GAMES.

Not only did management, the coaches, and the players perform like a joke yesterday but so did the fans of the falcons who attended that game. Pathetic.

AGAIN, IDIOTS: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE! that is what you are supposed to chant late in games when the other team is bogged down in a third down situation deep on your side of the field.

But then again, instead of rooting on your team, you would rather focus your venom on booing and killing your struggling team instead of giving them perhaps a much needed boost over the top.

By ResonableDawg

November 27, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

The Falcons were reaching in those two drafts when we took the WR’s. At the pace they are on, we could have drafted Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Jarret, or Robert Meachem w/ the 1st round pick this year. 5 or 6 win teams get picks in the top 5. But since we were reaching and missing back then, we could not dare draft one of them this season. So we screwed ourselves twice. We took those guys and gotta pass up on these guys. GREAT!

My thing is, WR’s must be elite in college, b4 they are considered 1st round picks. Neither of those guys were elite college WR’s.

By Darryl Dortch

November 27, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Shica You ARE ON CRACK!!! D Nabb and Vick worst quarterbacks??…You must have just started watching football yesterday or was it to get a boyfriend..lol. Vick took his team to the NFC Championship Game and D Nabb to the Superbowl just to highlight a few of their accomplishments. It’s rocky right now but the Birds will be fine. Vick is good QB and we win easily yesterday if it wasn’t for those drive killers in Jenkins and White. D Fence look pathetic in the first half but showed heart in the 2nd. We can run the table and get in the playoffs 10-6. Mark my WORDS!!!

By John from Dunwoody

November 27, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

hey dirrtybird,

To see the difference, check out an interview with michael vick. Now, compare that to someone like: *peyton manning *drew brees *philip rivers *ben roethlesberger *tom brady *etc. etc. etc.

Report to me your findings. Your findings will then prove to yourself what michael vick is.

By Lev Brosntein

November 27, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

The Falcons play like they’re run by Home Depot, thoough we know they’re not, because if they were, none of the sections at the Georgia Dome would be labeled, and there would a total of about three people in orange vests directing 70,000 fans to their seats.

By honest_abe

November 27, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

falcons fans = the worst group of uneducated knuckleheads on the planet.

shica: a word of advice. go back to school.

d1truth: schaub is a free agent at the end of this year.

new jersey falcon and all you other meatballs. all of you guys became falcons fans because of mike vick. to be completely honest he is the most exciting player to ever play for the falcons and he actually took us to the playoffs for two different years. but you see the REAL falcons fans all love mike vick too. but at some point we don’t care who is quarterback we just want to see this team win. i’m fairly young so i haven’t been through that many qb’s but i’ve been through my fair share (chris miller, bobby herbert, billy joe tolliver, jeff george, chris chandler, doug johnson, tony graziani).. and from what i’ve seen from vick lately.. both on and off the field .. he isn’t above reproach. (shica, yes it’s ok for you to look that word up)

bottom line is i want to see this falcons team win.. vick is a sorry excuse for a leader. he doesn’t say the right things. he doesn’t act the right way.. and although those things seem trivial.. those characteristics have a profound effect on the team in the long run!

put in schaub

By doc6mt

November 27, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Man you should have been there when Vick put that Glock to Arthur Blank head and said give me 130 mill over 10years or kiss HomeDepot goodbye.

the rice is mightier than the corn.

By TD

November 27, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

Hey TD You are a POS

By D1 Truth

November 27, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Great blog Kenny

By falcons fan45649

November 27, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

yall need to get the f* off vicks Dick ok if roddy white had caught the ball i bet u that game would have been 14-14 the one im really mad at is greg knapp for throwing the ball to alge crumpler once and whats wrong with the offensive line letting vick get hit 12 times oh yeah and ed donatell cant coach a flip on defense and yeah dhall best corner gets burned on the third play of the game and the falcons have too winnable games against the redskins and bucs and then the game that will decide it all is the cowboys game but vick has been the face of the franchise since he was named the starter in 2002 and what has schaub done hes started only few games but his completion percentage is lower then vicks and how many win does he have none and lets talk about what happend to that defense that was during the first couple of weeks its called injuries and there some key injuries so yall just need to stay off of VICKS DICK ps nooone tell me that i have runon sentences i just dont feel like fixing it

By QBwatcher

November 27, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Hey FalconFanHere

Fool!! Vick Sucks - thats why!

IF,if,if,if,if,if,if,if,!!!! If you had a clue , you would see that Vick sucks. How can you support a guy who sits 26th in the NFL as a QB? 26th! As of today. behind him are 2 rookies, Harrington and Plummer( who is getting benched this week). Thats why we all feel its time to move on. Vick has been QB for 6 years!! And every year he ranks in the 20’s in the NFL - usually bottom 3rd. Enuf already.

His QB rating was 47 for Sundays game. He had 37% completion - and only 2 or 3 of those drops where blatant - all of the other passes were not really catchable. Just an excuse.

Vick is nothing more than fast. With the holes in the line opened up- anyone could gain yards - He is fast, its his only asset.

The Falcons will never win the SB with this clown. Realise it - and move on. Make him 3rd wide out.

By jean

November 27, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

It’s scary how bad things have gotten for this team so fast. We’re all waiting to see if Arthur Blank is a man of his word & will do something. But we are stuck with Mr. Vick b/c of that ridiculous contract. I’ve just had it, I’d rather have a consistent quarterback who’s not so spectacular but is steady & an actual leader of this team. But that will never happen as long as Vick is here. The dirty bird was just the final straw. He showed he has no class whatsoever. The rest of that team gets blame for the losses, too but we can’t fire the whole team. This town is so fed up, it’s almost to the point where not a single person will care about them. It’s a shame for all of the classy players who are still here, Warrick, Alge, Brooking, Kerney, Finn, etc…D. Hall has no class, either. All talk, no action. He gets burned by someone every week! This team has no discipline & no backbone. Help us Arthur!!!!!

By Shica

November 27, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Whoever used my name and ain’t me, need to stop cause I will never hate on Mike so whatever Dumb-A* that ain’t using there own name, get off the web and go F* yourself trick, don’t mess with my damn name again either, you low-life.

By Tim

November 27, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Everyone on the team is terrible. Cut them all and forfeit the remaining games. Fold the team and hope for an expansion team down the road. Blow up the dome and use the space to expand the fulton county jail.

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

John from Dunwoody,

I’ve seen all of those interviews and to be honest, all of those QB’s that you mentioned gave entirely different interviews. I’m totally lost now. I did notice that Tom Brady was wearing a Patriots hat instead of a Falcons hat.

Now that you’ve tried to describe what a thug QB isn’t, can you answer the original question and describe what a Thug QB is?

but just to be sure, my children are safe around Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Ben Roethlesberger(unless there is a motorcycle involved), but they are not safe around the dangerous Mike Vick right?

Please, I have to know how to spot these people. You are providing great insight to all of us here in America. My children thank you.

By mountain_jim

November 27, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Vick tried to put the team on his back yesterday and if the receivers catch, he would have succeeded.

Get rid of Knapp and Stewart and find receivers who can do their dang job - Vick did his just fine yesterday (well except the finger anyways.)

By D1 Truth

November 27, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

h - abe, you know better!!!! Don’t you think McKay would have traded Schaub last offseason, instead of letting him walk (give McKay some damn credit) . The Falcons will use the transition tag. And get over it, Schaub is not going to be the QB for the Atlanta Falcons. And the question becomes, will you stop being a Falcon fan once this happens? The next question is were you one of the so called fans that booed Chris Chandler so that Vick could play?

By Shica

November 27, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

honest_abe: a little advice, go play with your vibrator and get off the web.

By Shica

November 27, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

Whoever used my name at 5:09 (I’m BLACK) so I be damned if I say sh*t like KIDDING, and would never say anything about Mike so all Whites and White Wannabes please exit!!!!!!

By dirrtybird

November 27, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

If anyone can run through these holes, then why isn’t Warrick Dunn doing it?

By Will Blog for Food

November 27, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

Vick is not a thug. I went to the Warrick Dunn event recently and met him and he’s a nice, quiet guy who only got riled up when the stupid valet people took forever to get our cars.

By vick is wick

November 27, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

schaub won’t play. atlanta fans get it through your thick heads. you gotta a black guy quarterbacking your team. so either you support the team or find another one. most of you only care about the team when the win anyway, so go back to college football.

By Lawanda

November 27, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

I feel that Michael Vick should not be suspend nor fine because he was upset after all he did running for his iife all game and just really holding down the team by himself and all these sore loser fans can do is boo him and the team I would have flick yall a** a bird too. Either you are going to be a fan win or loser or don’t be a fan at all. Yeah I feel something needs to be done about the coaches and receivers but I am so sick and tired of everybody trying to put all the blame on Vick he can’t make all the plays by himself it takes the entire team. Yeah he makes mistakes just like any other quarterback but you don’t hear about them all week every week. I just have one last thing to say