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Wondering about Mora fallout
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Very interesting day at the Branch. I’ll get to the on-field stuff in a minute.
Today was the first day the media was able to ask Falcons quarterback Michael Vick what he thought about his head coach’s father, Jim Mora, agreeing with a radio host that Vick was a “coach, killer.”
No. 7 was not too happy about those remarks. Vick called them “inappropriate,” but said that must be the way he feels and he had every right to express his opinion. Vick clearly measured his answers but you could sense that if he wasn’t bristling, he had been for the past two days.
It also wasn’t lost on Vick that the remarks came from his coach’s father. Vick called the situation “different…I’m speechless.”
Based on how Vick and the younger Mora interact on and off the field, it’s hard to tell if their relationship has taken a hit over this or of Vick feels that some trust between him and his coach could have been breached. Mora, the Falcons coach, said he and Vick get along well and that his father regrets making those remarks.
It will be interesting to see if this is the last of the fallout over the elder Mora trying to be honest as an analyst — and a father.
In other developments, it seems we keep going round-and-round about the Falcons’ audible strategy.
Vick said today that there are audibles, but only in the running game. He also said that there are no audibles to change a run play to a pass or vice versa. So it’s kind of like center Todd McClure said, there are audibles, but typically, they are to change the direction of the play and the protections.
Defensive end John Abraham (groin/abdominal surgery) returned to practice today and looked pretty impressive. Abe said he plans to play Sunday on a limited basis. Since he feels healthy and the damage has been repaired, he thinks there will be a play count but it could possibly be greater than the 20-play count he had against the Giants Oct. 15 — the last time he played.




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By T
November 22, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
the best thing the Falcons could do is get rid of Vick. Anyone can see he is not a quarterback. I wish Atlanta would do a Dallas.. trade him for a bunch of draft picks and finish off this chapter. Vick will NEVER take Atlanta to a Super Bowl, at this point I would settle for a winning season
By Jerry
November 22, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
I do not remember the elder Mora being a winner just like his son is having trouble being one consistantly You really blame Vick for all the problems
By Credibility Shot
November 22, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
Mora’s credibility is shot. Who will honsetly believe that he and his father a former NFL head coach haven’t conversated about Vick and the Falcons passing woes. Why didn’t they trade Schaub to get much needed depth on the lines and secondary. Now we know they have no faith in Vick, thus the limited BS gameplans they roll out every week. Mora, your Father just executed you with your team and the real Falcon fans in this city.
By Peach
November 22, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
The Mora’s should publicly apologize to Michael Vick He is not the Atlanta Falcons team. That is what is wrong with the team, they don’t play as a team. They seem to be a group of men just doing a job and not enjoying it. With that said, I come to the games to watch Vick play. Even when the Falcons loose, you have been intertained. I think he is an awesome quarterback. Hang in there Mike, you know what you can do!!!
By Lowcountry Bulldawgs
November 22, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
Kirk Ferentz, hire him get rid of Mora and Vick!
By mj
November 22, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
I am sure that alot of football people feel the same way as daddy Mora. He’s just the only one that sticks his foot in his mouth most of the time. To Mr. Vick, one simple answer. Show the NFL he’s wrong. Plain and simple. This year he hasn’t shown that dad is wrong. Something doesn’t turn around soon, son will be working with dad on HBO.
By Steve T
November 22, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
To all the people who put Vick down just remember what life was like before Vick. Jim Mora is not really a coach. If I did not have faith in a QB, I would bench him, but you better be sure that number 8 can carry this team. We have not seen number 8 get sacked 5-7 times. This is when you will find out if he is a QB or not.
By BirdDawg
November 22, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this
Steve,
So basically, you’re telling us that Michael Vick DOESN’T have the ability to audible.
When he sees 9 men in the box, Vick has to run that running play no matter what, because Greg Knapp can’t handle his QB checking to a pass and overriding his BRILLIANT play-calling acumen.
When Vick sees that an all-out blitz is on, and he’s taking the snap from under center, Vick cannot change into the shot-gun or change into a quick draw running play, because Greg Knapp is such an idiot moron egotistical retard that he doesn’t want his QB to be able to check into a play that mkae actually beat the circumstances dictated to him by the defense?
Steve, for the love of God, I want you to explain to us how this makes sense in today’s NFL. I want you to explain to us how Vick gets blamed for all of this crap, for taking sacks, for not “reading” defenses when he’s not able to change the play at the line to move into a play that can beat the defense that’s lined up against him.
Please, Steve, explain it to us, because obviously Jimmy Mora and his BFF Greg Knapp are so much smarter than the rest of us.
See, this is what you don’t hear from idiots like Jim Mora the Elder. That his son is a piece of crap coach. That’s he’s a petulant, spoiled child who cannot take criticism or answer questions. And that he trusts the worst OC in the history of the NFL.
Steve, I want you to explain to us, now that we all know what’s going on down at Flowery Branch, how Greg Knapp still has a job?
How can Rich McKay, President of this team, let this guy retain his job when he won’t let our QB’s put this team in the best position to win, game ion and game out. He’s the worst playcaller in the NFL, and now we know that his QB’s can do NOTHING to change his awful playcalls if the defense dictates it to them?
Steve, you explain to us fans, the people who make Arthur Blank money, who pay Rich McKay’s and Jimmy Mora’s and Greg Knapp’s salary… you explain to us how no one in Flowery Branch has a problem with the way Greg Knapp runs this offense.
You explain to us Steve, how anyone in Flowery Branch can justify keeping that moron as the OC.
Because I don’t think one person, ONE freaking fan of this team could justify Greg Knapp as the OC of this football team.
FIRE GREG KNAPP NOW!!!
By Credibility Shot
November 22, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this
Vick is a good a talent as there is in the league but was given inferior, young coaching to help bring those talents together. We’ve all seen the flashes, but the coaching just hasn’t been up to par on a consistent basis. Mora would be a good coach on an expansion team or something, but a team looking to really contend. Not sure. If anything it is he that is a QB killer along with Knapp.Vick only goes out and tries to execute those BS gameplans with little lineman and 3 third down receivers. Just sad, knowing we made the wrong hire, obviously this staff wasn’t the proper fit for Vicks unique talents!
By Tim
November 22, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
Atlanta fans are starving for a championship caliber team. Plain and simple. We’ve been to the bowl once, but even that was barely a legit appearance. And we made it to the NFC title game a few years ago- on one of the easiest schedules in the league. Fact is, I dont want to be entertained by a flashy player- I am tired of that. I just want a championship caliber team. I want consistency and players who are team focused. That seems like it will never happen with Vick at the helm the way he is playing and with some of the egocentric ridiculous things he says. Len Pasquarelli probably had it right- consistency will never be in Vick’s game. Granted there may be other issues, coaching, etc. but Vick needs to step it up big time. I just hope Arthur Blank has a timetable. He’s just about to lose me as a fan because I am getting really sick of this ride. Charlotte is just a 4 hour trip away…
By dean
November 22, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
I agree that the falcons do not play like a team. the coaching could be better, and the play calling better. however dallas had similar problems before they changed quarterbacks. Vick and mora ultimately are responsible. Look at the difference brady made when he took over for bledsoe. the difference that mcnair has made in baltimore.
By falcondawg
November 22, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
While I am not a great fan of MV7, I would like to see what he could do consistently when he has time. He has shown me enough to think he has the knowledge and ability to get it done. FYI, T, he has taken us to a Super Bowl, already, but under a more knowledgeable coaching staff. I think some of us are absolutely biased when we constantly berate him when it’s obvious to even the average football fan that he usually has to duck and dodge by the time he has completed a five step dropback. When this happens on a regular basis and he’s running for his life more often than not, he tends to lose all confidence in himself and his team mates and make dumb mistakes. It’s not a coincidence that Knapp had trouble with T.O. While T.O. is surely a problem child, he did recognize the ineptness of Knapp’s game plans. And, if Vick is so ignorant that he cannot call audibles effectively, they need to move him. I don’t believe that is the case, though.
By dean
November 22, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
if vick can not audible then he can not win. Also now that the rest of the league knows this it is going to be even harder. or maybe they already do.
By mj
November 22, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
Well, I can remember in 1998 with Chris Candler at QB, the only thing you could put him down for was getting hurt. Hey, its the NFL. So life before Vick wasn’t that bad. No worse than now. We’re 5-5 and lucky to be that. We finished 8-8 last year and really sucked in the latter half of the year. Vick is a talent without a doubt. But he’s not even in the same league as Brady, Peyton Manning or Farve in his day. If Vick couldn’t run like he does, he wouldn’t even start in the NFL. Face it, the coaches in the league have him somewhat figured out and he’s struggles because he’s not an average passer in the NFL. Love to watch him when he’s on, because most of the time hes running the ball. Thats not what a protype NFL QB is today.
By Mike L.
November 22, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this
Guys …
there were many good points made about the offense and the coaching. lately the Saints havent been able to stop anyone on defense, so if we cannot move the ball against them sucessfully on offense something has to change. i am not a fan of personnel change sint he middle of the year - but enough is enough. let Musgrave run the offense and see what he can do with this talent.
this coaching staff has 6 games left to prove that they are worthy of staying on the sidelines of this team. lets see how they do … Arthur is definitely getting impatient.
until then - lets all show up 10 mins before the game on sunday and do our part - create hell for the Saints to play in and support our team. I will be there … hope you guys will join me.
By Ryder
November 22, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this
This is the problem I have with Vick, he needs to turn off the rabbit ears and stop trying to prove something each week to the critics. That’s his greatest problem, thinking he always has to prove he can be Carson Palmer or Tom Brady. He doesn’t have to be, and these last three losses have been attributed to that fact. This team struggles when he’s not using his improvisational skills.
Update for all of these “let’s get rid of Vick’ a*******holes (that’s for any of you calling to get rid of Vick, i’ll enjoy making all of you my personal B**) learn the salary cap before you come on this blog! Since it can’t be done without killing this franchise, accept the fact we have the most unique player to ever play this position, more so than Cunningham. The run first system works perfectly, and I will agree that maybe a college coach who knows how to implement it will work best here.
At the same time, I still can’t believe they won’t let a QB in his SIXTH year do audibles. It’s beyond me, and I do believe it has a lot to do with the fact they don’t trust him for whatever reason to make the right decisions in the huddle.
As for Mora senior, he’s just looking out for his son’s welfare, when he should’ve been calling out Greg Knapp but whatever. It shouldn’t even matter, and I guarantee until Vick learns to tune things out and do what he does best, Atlanta as a whole will continue to struggle. I don’t care if he EVER throws for 150 yards a game the rest of his career, as long as it leads to wins and doesn’t turn the ball over i’m happy.
Besides, the bloggers’ wet dream Schaub wouldn’t last a second behind this putrid offensive line.
By 2full2care
November 22, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
Now really, how can you audible if you don’t know what’s about to happen, if you can’t remember the playbook … that’s why Knapp will not let Vick audible! Simple. Blank’s ship is sinking fast … better man the lifeboats Capt. McKay!
By mj is a damned fool
November 22, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
1998 was a fluke. And if you think that the pre-Vick times were no worse than now, you are a friggin’ idiot.
By mountain_jim
November 22, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
Good informative blog Steve
Now that we have answered the question of just how much flexibility MV has with play changes at the line (almost none of significance) the next question to be answered is why.
Why (and who decided this?) does MV not have the flexibility he needs to succeed at the line? Do the coaches believe he is not capable? Or is there some other reason? Why is our offense so limited and so easy to diagnose and defend? Why?
By mj
November 22, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
Hey mj is a damned fool
Looks like three years ago was a bigger fluke! You musta be blind cause without a doubt beyond the ‘81 Falcons, the ‘98 team has been our best unit to date. Its always a fluke when you make the Super Bowl and play in it. You’ll never see Vick attend one unless he has free sideline passes from a friend.
By Steve
November 22, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this
If I was coaching the other team, I would stack the line almost every time. Since I know Vick can not change the play, I would go blitz crazy. Then I am hoping that the will put in number 8 because he was get some blitz and we will see what he is made of. People the best way to use Vick in a West Coast offense is to roll him out with blockers in front of him. I recall Bill would roll Joe on the goal line with a blocker in front of him.
By Great Falconi
November 22, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this
Ryder, you can’t win if you can’t throw. When you get to the playoffs, you’ll face teams that can stop the run. If you can’t throw, you’re screwed. Besides, the Falcons’ run stats are inflated because of Vick. How often do the Falcons actually grind a team to dust with the running game? Never. It just doesn’t happen like that. It’s a finesse run game without a passing game to protect it. As long as the offense continues like this, this team will never win anything big. Vick either has to get his ** straight or get out of town. Knapp is a moron, Mora is a moron…but Vick is on the field. If he can’t lift his game, he has to go.
By Gary
November 22, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this
STEVE;
AMEN TO EVERYTHING BIRDDAWG SAID. AMEN, AMEN.
By Steve T
November 22, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this
“Now really, how can you audible if you don’t know what’s about to happen, if you can’t remember the playbook … that’s why Knapp will not let Vick audible!”
Now you are just as crazy as Mora and Knapp. He must know something if he is out there. He has to know the play. Heck he played for Reeves and Knapp play book is not as complex as Reeves.
You people are saying the man can not read defense. If he could not remember the playbook, then he would not be able to hand the ball off to Dunn.
By Great Falconi
November 22, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this
I get tired of people coddling Vick. The guy is just not a good quarterback. If he happened to be a good QB, the offense would not be as inconsistent as it is, even with that damn moron Knapp fumbling the controls. The whole lot of ‘em needs to go. I’ve washed my hands of the ‘06 edition of the Falcons. It’s time to clean the coaching staff out and throw a ton of money at Charlie Weis. If Vick isn’t going anywhere, Weis might be able to find a way to make him worth having for more than just ticket and merchandise sales.
By Steve T
November 22, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this
It is hard to raise your game when the other team know the play you are going to run. It is hard to pass when you have to dodge blitzers. Like someone stated, It would be great to see what Vick could do if he had time in the pocket and if he had a TO, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, etc.
He keep show us what he is capable of doing. Did you see that strike where he took a lick and hit the WR for a TD. Folks that is big time quarterbacking. Tom Brady could not make a play like. The book on Brady is if you hit him becomes avg. Therefore if Brady was here, he would look worse than Mike Vick. Vick does well with what he has to go through.
By dirtie birdie
November 22, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this
this is kind of ridiculous: but let’s go retro to vick’s first year as a starter and break out the good ole blackshirts. maybe that is what the players need for an attitude adjustment. who knows? kind of stupid. or at least break out the old red jerseys from the 80s. anything is better than the ugly unis they sport these days.
at this point in the season, we have six games left and it is obvious that things are not going to change with the coach, the OC, or the QB so maybe breaking out blackshirts will be the best thing about the team that can be changed, will create an attitude adjustment, and the team, management, coaches, owners, and players can all use it to rally around and announce that they are not going to be messing around for the next six games and hopefully further.
I know it is a very stupid, cosmetic, superficial, almost gay change. But at this point, what else is going to change? Maybe this will do something to change their attitude and self perception. this ship is sinking fast around mora and company. they need a rallying cry or cause.
Go ahead. Kill me. Call me stupid. I agree. I just hate the unis blank brought to this team. they are rather disgusting.
By dirtie birdie
November 22, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this
BREAK OUT THE BLACK JERSEYS THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!
By phoennix10
November 22, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this
Vick is a BELOW average and a VERY INACCURATE passer. His accuracy is equivalent to a ROOKIE QB. He would not be starting as a QB if it was not for his running ability:
His passing ability is best summed up by the guys at Footballoutsiders.com:
“At this point, there is really nobody to compare Vick with, at least not in NFL history since 1978. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A QUARTERBACK THIS INACCURATE, THIS FAR INTO HIS CAREER.”
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/footballoutsiders/2006/11/14/MichaelVickpastthecro
By Steve T
November 22, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this
By Ken Strickland
November 22, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this
This is for those who insist that Vick can’t pass, or that he is the cause of the teams problems. If teams thought Vick could’t pass they’d just sit in a zone, on passing downs, and wait for him to throw interceptions. DC’s know that with Vick’s arm, and given enough time, he can pass most teams off the field. This is why teams use 6-8 man blitz packages against him. They also know his passing proficiency is directly related to the Falcons’ poorly constructed passing scheme and, except for Crumpler, below avg REC’s.
The following is a list of facts known by DC’s throughout the league. (1)man coverage can be used against our REC’s because they are not good enough to consistently get open (2)the Falcons poor pass blocking scheme allows teams to overpower the Oline with 6-8 man blitz packages (3)DC’s know that the Falcons use its RB’s as blockers instead of receivers(the complete opposite of the WCoast OFF used everywhere else) (4)DEF’s don’t have to worry about the Falcons using their FB as an OFF weapon, except for blocking. (5)DEF’s don’t have to worry about the Falcons using screens or swing passes to its backs (6)DB’s don’t have to worry about the Falcons throwing quick slants or 5-7yd outs, especially on 1st and 2nd downs (7)DEF’s don’t have to worry about the Falcons blocking the DE or providing protection for Vick on bootlegs (8)once a DEF formation is called, they don’t have to worry about the OFF changing to a play(audible)that could successfully attack that particular formation (9)Teams know they don’t have to change their gameplan, because the Falcons don’t/can’t make gametime adj (10)DC’s know the Falcons have no confidence in the OLine in redzone and short yardage situations (11)Teams know if you stop MVick, you stop the Falcons cold and the OFF has litte or nothing in place to offset DEF’s concentration on stopping Vick.
This sounds like a scouting report.
By Steve T
November 22, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this
phoennix10 Ask those guys to watch all the films and factor in the drops. Factor in the fact he has to dodge blitzers before he has time to set his feet. The you see something other than an avg QB.
By Bear
November 22, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this
Steve,
I’m sure that you remember Steve Bartkowski and the limitless potential he had when he came here. I’m sure you remember what befell his career as a member of several inept Falcons’ teams. Ownership at that time was not willing to spend the money to build a winning team.
I think Athur Blank wants to build a team both he and the fans will be proud of. I have a lot of confidence in him to find the people necessary, both coaches and teammates, to allow Michael Vick to develop his full potential.
The Mora thing will blow over and will have absolutely no bearing on Blank’s decisions. Vick and Mora, Jr. have a good relationship. That will not change. It was sad to watch Bartkowski grow old as the Falcons QB. Blank will not let that happen to his investment in Michael VIck.
By Observer
November 22, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this
No way Lovie Smith would allow a so-called “coordinator” to prevent his QB from audibling. Lovie would ask, “Why? Why can’t this 6-year starter be given that opportunity like all other QBs past and present?”
That “coordinator” would have to look Lovie straight in the eye and tell him why he feels so strongly that a guy who is out there playing the game can’t be given a run play and a pass ply to have as a backup. And that coordinator had darn well be very convincing in his delivery of why “a guy like Vick” cannot be trusted to call an audible — a legitimate audible, not this “change the direction of a running play.”
Spell it out for us, Greg KKKnap. Tell us all why you really can’t trust Vick to the level other coordinators do around the league? And tell us why you even bothered to come here to the ATL in the first place where there was a QB here who you can’t have faith in.
By Mike L.
November 22, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this
is there another team in the NFL that doesnt let their QB to audible? does anyone know?
By Steve Bartkowski
November 22, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this
Hey I wished I’d played for Arthur instead of the Clampett’s. Just think of the contract I could have gotten. I mean if Vick’s worth $100 million? Heck, I was twice the QB he was and even called my own plays. Didn’t have the micro’s back then so I could change the play and blame it on the sideline for sending wrong play in.
By Mike L.
November 22, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this
also … steve can we hear from anyone else at the press conference. Mora is always talking about the same crap and doesnt give us any new info no matter what we ask. how about putting Tom Cable up on the stand and ask him about the O-line play, or Knapp and how he sees this offense making progress in the future … etc.?
Maybe McKay could have a few words for the fans as well… just to asure us what are the plans with the coaching staff etc.
By Jay Black
November 22, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this
Pheonnix10- What are the other 67.5% of his incompletions attributed to? receivers dropping balls that are in their hands, maybe??? So 67.5% of his incompletions are right on the money, right?
By Observer
November 22, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this
And to add…Exactly what quarterback playing today could succeed in a situation where there is no authority to change plays?
Take away Manning’s (either of them) right to audible. Put him on this team behind this offensive line. And let’s see how he does.
Why in the world would Jim Mora and Greg Knapp deliberately handicap Michael Vick and the rest of his teammates? There is something really suspicious about this. And the elder Mora’s comments may have blown the lid off the poorly hidden secret. They have been lying to Vick and the public all this time.
By Will Blog for Food
November 22, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this
It’s been obvious since beginning of the season - by bringing in Schaub’s former college coach, Brent Musgrave, they are setting Vick up to fail and give him no choice but to be Slash2 and let Schaub be the starter - especially since he ran West Coast O under Musgrave in college. Mora will tell King Arthur “I tried but Michael obviously isn’t (enter your choice here: smart enough; consistent enough; willing to work hard enough) to be a legitimate NFL QB.” Since Falcons are sliding, Jim, Jr. got Jim, Sr. to throw out the “Coach Killer” line to distract King Arthur and the fans from more obvious issues (uh, like he really isn’t ready to be a head coach) and possibly buy him another year (“Let Matty start and I guarantee we’ll go deep into the playoffs”)…
By ted
November 22, 2006 08:29 PM | Link to this
Is there somewhere we can petition to fire Knapp to show Blank we are informed fans?
By Jerry L
November 22, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this
If you really want to see a mess give Vick permission to call his own plays.
By D.C. Falcon
November 22, 2006 09:44 PM | Link to this
Can anyone honestly believe that the Falcons have a true #1 receiver? Or that Schaub is the answer? The O-line is built for finesse run blocking. I saw Peyton make some pretty bad throws against Dallas. We heard him call out his line last year after Pittsburgh destroyed him. No QB is successful if he has to run for his life. Vick misses Finneran. He and Crumpler are the only “consistent” receivers. Why wasn’t Dunn used as the Rams used Faulk? How come adjustments aren’t made during the game offensively? It must be the coordinators/coaches. If they do not believe Vick is capable of running their offense, please say so to Mr. Blank. But they’d better be sure because #7 is putting butts in the seats. BTW, aren’t these the same guys who were unsuccessful in SF? Hmmm.
By Tom S
November 22, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this
Vick is a “Coach Killer”, he killed Dan Reeves! Not by his play but his injury. Remember Dan’s record with and without Vick. As to the current situation we won’t know until the Falcons get a coach to kill. Mora should take his little note book and try the college ranks. Just don’t take Knapp or Donatell along for the ride, if you can’t stop the run or convert third downs you won’t make it in College either. I was more disturbed by Mora the younger’s comments after the Brown’s embarrasment than anything that PLAYOFFS!!!WHAT PLAYOFFS! has to say. Mora the younger stated that there were a couple calls that really turned that game. I completely agree, two of them were calls on third and short to throw 35 yards downfield and the worst was fourth and one to throw into the endzone. I don’t think the men in stripes were responsible though. Face it, Mora is in way over his head and we will never know Vick’s true potential until he has an opportunity with a competent coach. I would hate to discard another Brett Favre, then again I don’t want to keep trying to squeeze Lawerence Taylor out of Aundrey Bruce either. Other than special teams it’s time to flush the coaching toilet and move on.
By D.C. Falcon
November 22, 2006 10:06 PM | Link to this
Football is perhaps the most team-oriented sport. No matter how good a player is he cannot win alone. Marino is the best QB I ever watched, but he doesn’t have a ring. Neither does Barry Sanders. Our defensive stars either are injured (Abraham) or all talk (Hall). Why did we continue to punt to Sams instead of kicking out of bounds? Why did we go for it on 4th down on our own 40 to start the game? Although it didn’t cost the team, it set the tone for the stupidity of the coaching decisions. This is just too frustrating for the 2nd consecutive year.
By Steve T
November 22, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this
Be careful of what you ask for. Back up always look good until they get in the line of fire. You guys want to get rid of Vick and you know what would be crazy if he ends up in Tampa with Jon. Jon would love to have starship 7. Jon would know how to use Vick, and you know that those two would be the LLL out of Atlanta every year. With starship 7, Tampa wins a few superbowls and all the people in the ATL would be crying again.
By raydjo
November 22, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this
at sunday’s game ..i personnally will hold a sign reading” FIRE GREG KNAPP,AND IF MORA DONT LIKE IT , FIRE HIM TOO!!! and guys lets start a petition to get this guy fired before he give us all fans a freakin heart attack with his BS PLAY CALLING
By JustDman
November 22, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this
If I had a majic wand, I would take every one of you negative SOB’s and line you up and make you watch Matt( I wanna be like Mike) Schaub quarterback get sacked until you puke blood! None of you fatt azz couch potatoes know the game of football….but yet you sit and play armchair football like you know what’s going on! I wish Mike Vick leaves this looser of a town and leave your redneck azzs with MS as your QB for life. Then your comments will not hold ice water because your beloved great white hope is being sacked like Idaho’s best!! With this COACHING STAFF and Offensive Line, no QB is safe!! If only that majic wand existed, I would blink Mike right out of this city and into a city that would appreciate his talents and skills. Falcons Fans….Don’t hate because it has been and will get worse without Vick….Try looking at the real history of this loosing azz team and you will wake up from that red neck coma you are in!!!
By Najeh Davenpoop
November 22, 2006 10:42 PM | Link to this
The only thing worse than an idiot coach is an arrogant idiot coach. Not only does Greg Knapp call some of the worst plays in the league, he thinks he’s so good that he doesn’t even allow his QB to change those plays at the line. Funny, because you would think a guy who is as good at improvising as Vick would be able to see nine in the box and realize a run up the middle is not going to work. Greg Knapp absolutely has to go, there is no excuse for him keeping his job at this point. Pull the trigger, Arthur Blank.
Vick was effective under Dan Reeves, because even if Reeves wasn’t creative he wasn’t a complete idiot either. Better to be too conservative than to call plays that have no chance of working and not give your QB the option to audible out of those plays.
By JUSTDMAN
November 22, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this
WAKE UP PEOPLE, THE COACHES IN THIS LEAGUE DOES NOT HAVE MIKE VICK FIGURED OUT AS MJ PLAINLY STATES….NO IDIOT, THE COACHES HAVE THIS FREAKIN HIGH SCHOOL OFFENSE FIGURED OUT. THESE COACHES ON TEH FALCONS SIDELINE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO GAME PLAN, DOES NOT KNOW THEIR PLAYERS AND DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE ADJUSTEMENTS DURING A GAME! JUST PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO SEE IF THIS IS CORRECT DURING A GAME, WATCH AS THE SAME PLAY IS CALLED EVERY SERIES, THE SAME FORMATION, EVEN THE FANS WATCHING KNOW WHAT PLAY THEY ARE RUNNING, SO BLAME MIKE VICK FOR THE GAME PLAN, THE OFFENSIVE PLAYS, THE DROP BALLS, AND THE TINY AZZ LINEMAN! JUST KNOW THAT THIS COACHING STAFF WAS RUN OUT OF SAN FRAN AND LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER SAN FRAN IS DOING NOW! PAY CLOSE ATTENTION MJ! AND BE SMART ABOUT YOUR POST, KNOW SOME FACTS PLEASE!
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
November 22, 2006 10:56 PM | Link to this
One thing that catchs my attention is Mora the younger saying if he could have any one player ALL TIME! to start a team with he would choose M.V. I have to assume he is speaking his mind , if so he has poor judgement think of the players to choose from in this magic land. Of coarse there is a chance he said this for other reasons, this is more worrisome in my mind, why feel the need for a statement like that? I can’t see why a coach should think he had to B.S. a grown pro like M.V. I hope he isn’t feeling pressure to treat him like some insecure prima donna.
By ELMER FUDD GANTRY
November 22, 2006 11:11 PM | Link to this
Steve T Starship 7, M.V.7 BuSh just give me a qb that wants to be part of a team, this gets more like the T.O. show every week.Fu* STARSHIP7 and Fu* M.V.7 just give me a player that learns his job then shuts his mouth and does it!
By ELMER FUDD GANTRY
November 22, 2006 11:29 PM | Link to this
My brother said last year he thought t.o. could end up in Atlanta,I said then I would rather lose without Owens than win with him,I stand by that.At what point does this B.S. get to the point it’s just not worth the nonsense? For me at least right now !!I just don’t give a damn about this Vick circus anymore!
By phoennix10
November 22, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this
Steve T & Jay Black:
Here are some updated stats regarding Vick’s Incompletion Breakdown by percentage (2006 from Stats, Inc.):
Pass Dropped: 10.2%
Poor Throw: 38.6%
Past Defensed: 22.0%
Pass Hit at Line: 3.9%
Other: 18.1%
Intercepted: 7.1%
Those are the breakdowns of his incompletions. His 2006 completion percentage is a LOWLY 52.4%.
For his career his completion percentage is an ABYSMAL 53.8%.
Vick, is a great runner, BUT he is a TERRIBLE PASSER Vick’s terrible 2006 completion percentage is comparable to Kordell Stewarts 1st full season as a starter!
By phoennix10
November 22, 2006 11:57 PM | Link to this
Steve T & Jay Black:
Here is an updated breakdown of all of Vick’s 2006 Incompletions (Stats, Inc.):
Pass Dropped: 10.2%
Poor Throw: 38.6%
Pass Defensed: 22.0%
Pass Hit at Line: 3.9%
Other: 18.1%
Intercepted: 7.1%
2006 Completion %: 52.4%
Career Completion %: 53.8%
Vick is a great runner, BUT, he is a VERY INACCURATE passer. His TERRIBLE completion percentage is comparable to Kordell Stewarts first full year at QB (read that statement again).
By Steve T
November 23, 2006 12:14 AM | Link to this
The only thing I can say about Vick is he is too nice. If I were him, I would be raising LLLLLL with the coaches. I would change Knapp plays. The 4th and inches call would have been a QB sneak.
By e.b.
November 23, 2006 12:19 AM | Link to this
Oh “T”, Vick is not a QB…blah…blah..blah. Seriously, can’t u come up with anything better than that lousy argument? it’s so stale.
By e.b.
November 23, 2006 12:23 AM | Link to this
Phoennix, read BirdDawg’s post, because he makes the most sense around here. Your stupid little stats mean nothing. BE GONE.
By Steve T
November 23, 2006 12:32 AM | Link to this
I just had a thought. If the defense knows our offense so well, then we may not know how good are our WRs are. Think about it if I knew you were going to run a 10 yard hook, I think I could cover you. But why don’t do like the PATS. We run the hook but it is a hook and go.
By Steve T
November 23, 2006 12:43 AM | Link to this
I have one question. How many of you ever played a sport. Some people make comments but fail to understand what separate a great player from a so-so.
Mr. fudge, you do not understand how losing eat at a great players. I recall when Rashad Wallace went to the pistons. Some people I knew said that they would not touch Rashad. They talk about the way he acted. I stated that Rashad wants to win and losing is eating at him. When he get on this team he will not be a problem. It is the same way with TO. All the guys you guys don’t I will take them because I am just like them. But if you want to win you need those type of players on the team.
By Typical Atlanta çrapola
November 23, 2006 01:10 AM | Link to this
you can’t admit vick sucks, because he’s black. you can’t admit obvious truths, because the black’s get their feelings hurt. living with lies results in what atlanta is. a nightly slaughterfest, that no intelligent person would get near.
By Bedevilish
November 23, 2006 01:14 AM | Link to this
C’mon Jim Mora,
Would you really pick Mike Vick as your franchise starter?!
Those are the kind of self serving idiotic statements that have half of all Falcon fans ready to buy you a one way ticket to Anywhere, USA.
By Mike L.
November 23, 2006 01:17 AM | Link to this
food for thought …
One of the problems i see with the O-line play is quite simple. Alex Gibbs came from Denver to implement his O-line philosophy with smaller linemen. (By the way they are struggling in Denver with pass protection as well) … anyways, it’s his system, but since he doesnt run it anymore (he is a consultant) it is hard to make it work the way its supposed to.
rememeber the first year when he was a full time o-line coach? the problems with the o-line were not as obvious as now … he knew how to fix the leaks. Tom Cable (and Jagodzsinski last year) is new in this system and is struggling to adjust to the problems that arise. Either Gibbs needs to get back to coaching full time or we have to change the system. i am not convienced that anyone else knows how to run the zone blocking scheme with smaller linemen as its supposed to be run, besides Gibbs … again .. look at Denver’s offensive struggles …
if you make a comparison bw Jake Plummer and Vick many similarities begin to arise … coincidence?
Jamie Dukes made a very good point on the NFL network the other day … any QB in the league that doesnt have enough time to set his feet and throw is going to struggle … Brady - 2 weeks in a row being pressured, Manning against Dallas, other Manning v. Jacksonville … you have to protect the QB and give him time … Vick got sacked 5 times and hit 14 times v. Baltimore … out of 22 throws. he had time to set his feet and throw only 3 times in the game … looking at these numbers, it appears that Vick is actually playing much better than the offensive line allows him to. The protection was good in two games this year - Pittsburgh and Cinci … we all saw the results.
This is where the offensive play calling becomes a problem. I’ve said it before … this team is poorly coached on offense. If you cannot protect Vick in the pocket roll him out of the pocket … move the pocket … use screen passes … use the running game more … just dont let him sit there as a sitting duck.
If we cannot make anything happen on offense this week v. the Saints who have been struggling lately on defense something has to change … i know firing someone in the middle of the season can come back to haunt you and i was always the first one to say that Arthur Blank should wait until the end of the season , but something has to give if the Falcons are to make the playoffs this year.
To Jeff Schultz - I mean, are you being negative on purpose or do you think that you can be a good writer only if you point out the negative stuff? How did you figure that the Falcons are already finished? they are as much in the haunt for the playoffs as they were in the beginning of the year. Despite all the struggles, they are 1 game behind and still play all three NFC South teams. If you can’t find something logical to talk about dont say anything … we dont miss your articles that much.
By who saw the michael richards video?
November 23, 2006 01:23 AM | Link to this
was he out of line? hell no, he wasn’t. typical whiney black response to being called out for their own bad behavior. he just turned their abuse back on them. too bad! too bad, because these subhumans are used to being placated! good for michael!
now the whiney bytches have gone to a lawyer. typical. is there any wonder why they are so hated?
By Michael Richards
November 23, 2006 02:05 AM | Link to this
Don’t pay attention to the above post. I apologized to the Afro-American community. The above poster is a complete AS5hole.
By mike
November 23, 2006 03:04 AM | Link to this
It would be nice to see all the Vick haters, daddy mora, and the rest of these know it alls out there on the field each Sunday. Its amazing how so many people have so much to say yet cannot perform. Fox news and sports are just folks who spin anything because they know there are enough non-thinkers who fall for that bs.
By dirtie birdie
November 23, 2006 03:47 AM | Link to this
i have said it before and i will say it again: watching MV7 with mora & knapp is like watching junior last year without his cousin tony eury, jr. absolutely painful. dan reeves is to MV7 as eury, jr is to dale earnhardt jr. bring back reeves!!!! unfortunately, the nfl is different than nascar in that arthur and the nfl types have too much pride to admit a mistake and bring back a coach who was prematurely dismissed
By FalconFanFor40
November 23, 2006 05:44 AM | Link to this
If MV7 is not allowed to change the play because the only plays MV7 knows are sandlot-left and sandlot-right. which translate into, “snap the ball to me and I’m gonna run to the left (right).”
By Nono
November 23, 2006 06:19 AM | Link to this
I hate to say it but I learn alot reading some of these blogs I B** about Mora and Vick, but truth is or OC does blow. You guys are right, Vick spends too much time on his back, especially for a guy who is questionable at QB. I only say questionable because our whole offensive scheme with the rolling pocket is looking like crap. We are close to last in almost ecery offensive category with the exception of running. Giving a bigger line and better zone pass blocking, or just drop back blocking——I think Vick would be better & learn to read and possibly audiblize but thats not the kind of traditional QB he is. He needs someone who know the offense better. Who do you blame for this mess? Knapp or Vick? By the way—I thought Vick handled the the Mora Sr remarks with class—-way to go Mike
By Jerry L
November 23, 2006 07:11 AM | Link to this
The only time that it would be proper to say Mike Vick and Peyton Manning in the same sentence was if Vick was toting Manning’s luggage or something.
By terrell
November 23, 2006 07:16 AM | Link to this
Im going to tell you the truth about Mora and staff.This staff really don’t give a dam about the safety of their quarterback(MV7).They think Vick is some freak of nature.Vick do make mistakes and he also make big plays for them.Im no racist,but if Schaub were starting at quarterback they would get the o-line to block better for him.This is one of the main reasons why Vick is struggling and they’re not winning games.I know if Vick would have had more protection the falcons wouldn’t be 5-5.Also if the falcons can’t audible they’re going to continue to go backfard.Fire!Knapp
By Jerry L
November 23, 2006 07:35 AM | Link to this
I read this morning that Mora is not going to play Abraham until he is 100%, don’t want to jeprodize his future. Who is he kidding, Abraham is a multi-millionaire. Mora can say whatever he wants to, don’t know if he means it after the coach killer comment by his dad. They had to discuss it somewhere along the way for his dad to say it. As far as Abraham, just say whenever John says he is ready, he will be in the line-up.
By Brandyman
November 23, 2006 07:44 AM | Link to this
Right on BirdDawg. You hit the nail on the head. Vick has been in the system long enough to have the responsibility to audible at the line. There can be only one reason he is not allowed to do so and that is because Knapp does not think has the intelligence to do so, which is ludicrous. Knapp is running scared. You can see it in his face on the sideline. He is clueless. He must have some snapshots of Mora, McKay and Blank that they don’t want publicized.
By lawton
November 23, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this
99 percent of the people who come on these blogs dont and really dont wanna know how the game is played. let me address some issues. first, 98 wasnt a fluke. i told my brother after atlanta beat new england in the early part of the year that atlanta could go to the superbowl that year. i KNOW how to play football and coach football. Dan Reaves is a excellent coach who gets into trouble with egomaniac general managers and team owners. His systems are basic, beat the other team up football that bill parcells and other old school coaches win with. he was teaching vick how to be a big time quarterback with good results and yall drunk blank’s kool aid. yall the same ones hollering for reaves to put in the sorry florida quarterback backing up vick. the poster on this blog named “credibility shot”, he said it best and i peeped game it mora’s first year, THEY dont trust vick (mora and knapp), THEY are the ones with the problem of teaching a black quarterback, hell,maybe they dont know how to teach ANY quarterback, but, the bottom line is mora senior busted out mora junior. hell yeah they been talking, told yall dummies arthur blank was pimping yall with the home depot, handsome sideline make all the right decisions marketing crap. he dont know nothing about football other than you gonna get paid as a owner with the tv contracts so making mistakes dont cost anybody but the fans.
By mo
November 23, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this
I also have to agree with BirDawg!
Vick can’t audible a running play into a pass play??? Yeah, we’re sunk! That almost guarantee a RB stuff at or before the line of scrimmage (which is the reason why Dunn’s numbers are down.)
Plus, Vick can’t audible a pass play, right? Or a pass play to a running play. In other words, there’s no trust that Vick can change a play, only change the direction in a run.
In even more other words, Knapp can’t trust Vick to be a real QB. So, Knapp hasn’t coached up Vick to truly take over the helm of the offense.
I have never said this in any of my posts. I always have given the benefit of the doubt and I have always looked at things like this is people’s livelihood, but…
KNAPP NEED TO BE FIRED!!!
Steve, thanks for confirming the audible situation for me. Knapp is indeed clueless and he has put Vick in a situation in which he can’t win. This season’s over. Now I know why our offense is so predictable… there’s no changes at the line of scrimmage.
I mean, what is a mere change of direction in a running play going to do against a bunch of NFL players lined 8 and 9 in a box? These defensive players are professionals!
That also explains why when a defense lines up to smash the run why Vick doesn’t take advantage of the one-on-one coverage on the wideouts. Sheesh!
I also would like to thank all of those people who are calling for Vick to be traded or converted to wide receiver. Yes, it’s stupid to say that- but with those posts it puts more pressure on the offense to produce which puts more pressure on Blank. I am not going to defend anyone anymore… I am just going to express my opinions.
See, imagine if the Saints and the other NFL teams were listening in to the press conference (or reading this blog.) You know they are. They know that Vick will not audible out of an obvious running play into a passing play. That means they can key on the running game with limited to no repercussions.
Also, I can see why the WRs can’t get open with no line of scrimmage adjustments.
Dangit! KNAPP SHOULD BE FIRED!
By lawton
November 23, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this
damn, some of yall still cant see the forest for the trees. Defenses all ready knew that the falcons dont audible, run the same plays, etc. etc..etc. whats new is nobody knew definitely why this sham has been happening until mora senior popped off at the mouth and exposed what i felt all along. they (mora,knapp,blank doesnt get a pass here either), they all think vick isnt too bright. where they messed up is they didnt handle it right. they should have treated vick like any other quarterback and let vick sink himself, but no, the dummies sabotaged themselves and NOW trying to blame vick. jog your memories. EVERYTIME they bring shaub in they open up the offense and things look totally different. when vick plays, they shut down the playbook and run that same crap. look, the necks know vick passed for 2900 yards and ran for 700 more in the same year under reaves which was really his first full year under reaves starting. defenses were not having nightmares, they were having high definition terror flicks in their dreams. i told yall dummies blank tricked everybody and what is really crazy is this: blank marketed employee loyalty at home depot as his hallmark for building that company, then turned around and stabbed the hell out of the back of dan reaves and no one said a peep. blank is the one who is letting mora and knapp ruin vick’s career because blank knows at the end of the day, he is getting a cut of cbs,nbc,fox, espn,nfl networks,nfl properties, gate receipts, misc merchandising,luxury suites and kinds of other stuff we dont know about. he getting paid regardless if they put matt shaub, vick, warrick dunn or keith brooking at quarterback.
By CJ
November 23, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this
When are the Falcon going to wake up and try another QB. Vick is not the answer or one to get them to the next level. Week after week we are seeing the same and hearing the same commits from him. I suggest to owner and coach, swollow your pride, bench him, go to your back-up QB.
CJ
By tim
November 23, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this
Mo are completely 100% accurate.Not having no legit audibles will continue to hurt the falcon at the line of scrimmage.I know if you had the right caoaches these wouldn’t be an issue.Fire! Daddy little boy and staff.
By Peach
November 23, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this
FALCONS TEAM, FORGET ABOUT YOUR CONTRACT AT THE NEXT GAME. REMEMBER YOUR HIGH SCHOOL AND/OR COLLEGE TEAM. GO OUT THERE AND PLAY AS A TEAM, PAT SOME BUTTS, CELEBRATE WHEN YOU GET THAT TOUCH DOWN. LINEMEN, REMEMBER WHEN THE QB YOU WERE PROTECTING WAS YOUR COUSIN OR YOUR BEST BUDDY? HAVE SOME FUN. IF YOU DON’T, WIN OR LOOSE, IT WILL BE A WASTED DAY!!! - IT’S ABOUT THE DEFENSE , THE OFFENSE AND THE GREAT CITY OF ATLANTA. FOR A FEW HOURS EACH WEEK, THIS CRAZY TRAFFIC CITY BECOMES ONE AND I LIKE IT
By N GA BOB
November 23, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this
What’s new…..VIck’s upset and Mora says Vick is the greatest thing since the jellybean. 1st Vicki…the truth hurts.The real truth is that Vick is a team killer. Now Mora,if this was an old fashion western, Mora would be vick’s sidekick. Come on Jim, you hitched your wagon to a star that’s had his fifteen minutes of glory. It’s time to bail out while you’ve still got a job. (SIDEKICKS are a dime a dozen)
By mj
November 23, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this
Has anyone thought that maybe Vick just has a hard time understanding the reads? You know Reeves did have to simplfy the language in his playbook for Vick. I mean you look over at the sidelines with he and Knapp on occasions and you see a blank stare sometimes. Granted Vick could be frustrated with the inabilty to change from run to pass, but one has to think that Knapp knows his job is on the line. I mean face it, Knapp does’t have a fat contract nor long term contract. Why would he just sabatage himself? I don’t think he’s developled the offense well at all, but I also don’t think Vick is a complete QB either. Tough situation for a OC to come into. Vick just not a typical prototype QB that most are used to working with.
By keeping it REAL !
November 23, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
By T First of all no one in the league would give up all those player. Atlanta would be dumb as hell to trade Vick .Your blue eyes is fooling your brain’ Vick never plays defense. you guys are mad because he is getting paid. n o other and I mean no QB IN THE HISTORY OF THE FALCONS HAS BEEN BETTER. But to you Vick People like old man Mora and T will always hate. People who know the game in Atlanta knows Greg Knapp call bad plays the receivers drop balls the offense line is a human turnstile and our defense is giving up near 30 points a game. But all of that is Vick fault. your Blue eyes are fooling you. But that the way it is in America!
By BirdDawg
November 23, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
Steve,
Usually, I’m used to being the lone wolf, the voice crying in the wilderness here.
But as you can see, I’ve gotten a lot of converts, a lot of people questioning how the hell Greg Knapp can be allowed to do what he’s doing to our QB and the offense of this team.
Here’s the problem, Steve. We’re not dumb people. Most of us here have played the game at some point, or we understand the game. The Vick hater don’t. They’re a bunch of ignorant, racist ‘necks. But must of us can understand the game at the most basic level at least.
If we can have an issue with what Greg Knapp is doing to Michael Vick, basically handcuffing him and setting him up to take the fall… Steve, Greg Knapp is PURPOSEFULLY not giving this team the best chance to win.
He’s the worst playcalling OC in football, and now we all realize that no matter what the defense dictates, our QB cannot change the play at the line.
Please, Steve, tell us how this makes sense. Even more than that, Steve, I implore you to be OUR voice to Rich McKay and Arthur Blank. Rich McKay has been around football all of his life. I want you to ask HIM to explain why Michael Vick is the only QB in the league who cannot change a called run into a pass when the defense stacks 8 and 9 men into the box, or why he can’t change a pass into a draw play when he sees the defense loaded up for a blitz.
You need to be our voice, Steve, because we don’t have a voice with these people. I honestly believe that Arthur Blank is clueless, absolutely Dan Snyder clueless when it comes to football, because if I was the owner, and I realized that my OC was purposefully doing these things to sabotage my team, I’d have fired his @$$ in a split second.
So you let Rich and the Rich Man know that we now know what’s going on in Flower Branch, and we the fans hate it. We hate that the OC is sabotaging the offense and the career of the most exciting man in the NFL.
You let them know that we are sick and tired of Jimmy Mora’s petulant, spoiled, immature, and childish behavior.
You let them know that we hold them both accountable for not hiring Lovie Smith, letting themselves get bamboozled by a snake-oil selling DC who’s defenses in San Fran were never any good.
You tell them that unless Greg Knapp is fired ASAFP, there will be hell to pay, and it starts with their wallets.
You be our voice, Steve, because Arthur Blank isn’t listening. He is also, apparantly BLIND, if he cannot see that Greg Knapp needs to go yesterday, and he’s DEAF if he can’t hear his de facto son, Jimmy’s, petulant behavior every time someone asks him a question.
You got to let these guys know, Steve, because we are sick and tired of the same old, same old, with this team.
These players deserve better than Greg Knapp and Jimmy Mora. Michael Vick certainly deserves better than an OC who’s ready to throw him under the bus for his own ineptitude (which, according to reports, Knapp’s already has thrown Vick under the bus).
And we fans deserve a coach who acts like an adult and not a spoiled child. Us fans deserved Lovie Smith. And we are not going to let the Rich Man forget that.
By Corky
November 23, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Stick a fork in Mora. He’s done.
By mountain_jim
November 23, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
I believe Mora gets another year…
Knapp, on the other hand, is done.
Only question is whether he makes it thru season end or not. I think if the Falcons lose Sunday due to continued pityful offense, Knapp is out.
Or at least he should be. Let Musgrave have the rest of the year to show what he can do and then use the offseason to find a real OC if its not Musgrave.
By TTCO
November 23, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
Vick dosent audible because he cant read a defense. At times he sees that the play called is not right for the defensive alignment but all he does is waste a time or or call the original play anyway because he cant think of anything else to do. Do you people actually belive that a pro football coach has not tried to teach his QB to audible and dosent give him the green light to do so? If you belive this you are fooling yourself or are a fool yourself! I dont know the reason but Vick OBVIOUSLY does not have the quick decision ability (other than pulling it down and running) to be a pro QB!
By toshie
November 23, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
All of you people think you are so smart. Why are you not head coaches in the NFL. On paper you can fix anything. I for you don’t think you are that smart and that is probably the reason you are on this blob mouthing off.
By mj
November 23, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this
Hey Toshie we are bored and dinner isn’t for another two hours. By the way, what is “I for you don’t think you are that smart” part of your blog?
By Birdy
November 23, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this
BirdDawg,
You are my hero! I read this blog every day to see you next post. So much of what you’ve written is felt by all the fans I know. Mora, Knapp and their rules and attitudes are bringing shame to the team, setting it back on the field, and making the Falcons a very negative, polarizing experience when it should be one of fun, hope and civic pride. Just look at how much Blank has invested in this team.
Give Vick the proper chance, the same chance they gave Garcia, Young and Drunkenmiller. Didn’t Mora’s Daddy allow his rookie QB to audible? Yes he did.
Let Vick and the other players sink or swim on their own abilities and efforts. Don’t hold the team back because one or two coaches lack objectivity and enlightenment. Please!!! We want to win.
Steve, you’re doing a fine job. Thank you for helping to get our voices heard.
By ED FROM ELLIJAY
November 23, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SOME SENSE REALIZES THAT MIKE VICK IS THE WORST PASSER IN THE NFL. THANK YOU COACH MORA FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NOW IF YOUR SON WILL ONLY LISTEN AND GET RID OF THE BUM, MAYBE WE CAN WIN!!!!!!! FOR THE LAST TIME , PLAY SCHAUB OR SHOCKLEY NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By KlanMan
November 23, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
OK..all you hoodrats that are trying to turn this into a race issue..SHUT UP! Our rants are NOT about race..they are about a QB who is so over-rated that he believes his own hype. Vick is a good runner but cannot pass worth a s&%t. He does not have the intelligence to audible and will never take the Falcons to the big dance. Arthur Blank made a huge mistake paying MV so much money because he sucks! The color of his skin does not matter 1 bit..he is not an NFL caliber QB. Let Schaub start and see what happens! The Saints will drill the Falcons on Sunday..can you say 5-6 boys and girls???
By Pink -o GOP sweet one's
November 23, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this
Ed erectile dysfunctional Brain from Ellijay Redneck Thug fan of UGA. Classless clueless!
By Coach Killer
November 23, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
It is so easy to tell which blogs are submitted by afro-americans…they all have the same stupid theme. Its not about race people. I would not care if #7 was purple if he could read defenses and pass the ball. Vick cannot do either..all he has are 2 strong legs and a good arm! Unfortunately, those skills will not get you to the Super Bowl or even the playoffs. Between possessions, Vick just sits on the sidelines with a blank look on his face. Last week as he was walking off the field at Baltimore, you would have thought the Falcons won by 3 TS’s with the smiling and laughing he was doing!! That is not right..face it afro-americans..your boy SUCKS!! So shut up with the race card crap.
By Pink -o GOP sweet one's
November 23, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
Some BLUE EYES have a problem with color. color is the problem,and Vick makeing that kind of money is the other. Since 1776 till 2006 U.S. Redneck think they know all the answer in every thing. You guys are no better than any body else. It all in your mind. You are so blind. But that’s some blue eyes mind set pure sickness UGA Thuge!
By Pink -o GOP sweet one's
November 23, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
It not a card it’s the truth something you as a redneck can’t handle UGA Thug!
By Dannotdan
November 23, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
Birddawg
I certainly would not consider myself a Mora/Knapp fan but you cannot possibly think that any coach would risk their careers with a “High School” playbook and a “No Audible” policy unless the QB was just flat out unable to grasp more. I don’t know if Schaub/Shockley would do any better but I do know that these same coaches could open up more complex offensive packages and they absolutely would give them the ability to check out of a bad situations. Why…………………because they can see what is happening and process the situation and make the necessary adjustments.
The “High School” playbook and a “No Audible” policy is exactly what every knowledgeable GM had to expect with Vicks Wanderlic test scores. The Wonderlic is not totally conclusive but every team in the league does this testing because it gives them a great indication of what to expect, Schaub near to top Vick at the absolute bottom. They know Schaub is much smarter and they know Vick is not and they act accordingly. Schaub and Shockly are just smarter and faster thinkers, they may get sacked as much but either would give the Falcons the ability to run a pro offense.
Vick is great on Xbox, and he would kick a$$ in test of physical skills but pro football is a complicated business and he is not equipped to compete.
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
November 23, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this
Sick of Vick? let me suggest trading for T.O. then we can skip playing the game and just smuther these two in attention,just one big boohoo circle jerk!
By Pink -o GOP sweet one's
November 23, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
how do you know that ? what facts do you have . Not what you think. Birddawg prove it!
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
November 23, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
So Mora would pick Vick over anybody ever? let me list a few Montana,Young,Favre,Elway,Mareno,Jim Brown,Walter Payton,Emmett Smith,Jerry Rice,etc, I think maybe part of the problem is he’s CRAZY AS HELL !!!!!
By BirdDawg is Matthew Cafaro
November 23, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
Everyone, BirdDawg is Matthew Cafaro. Welcome back, buddy!
By Pink -o GOP sweet one's
November 23, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
They are all to old to pick TEDDY!
By Birdy
November 23, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
Dannotdan,
Everything you are saying is based on mere supposition. How do we know Vick cannot “notice a blitz is coming, then audible into a draw play” if, after 2.5 years and 44+ games they have yet to even TRY IT?
Right now, Knapp is calling the play before either team breaks the huddle. That means he is trying to anticipate/predict the play or formation the defense will run. Before the defense breaks their huddle.
Are you saying Knapp can guarantee a better result trying to predict the future than a 6-year QB can by adjusting to the actual formation after breaking the huddle?
Have the Falcons plays ever been blown up? Oh you betcha. A better question might be how many of Knapp’s calls actually do work.
So there is no basis for the failure to coach with a level of sophistication on par with their peers. I would say that Vick has shown more ability to match or exceed his peers’ performance over the years than Jim Mora/Greg Knapp have when compared to theirs.
If Vick does a bunch of poor audibles that hurt the team, then take the authority away from him under those circumstances. But making these kinds of assumptions without any actual substantiation is just plain wrong, and you know it.
By mj
November 23, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
To say Mike Vick is not a caliber NFL quarterback is incorrect. To say hes a different type of prototype NFL quarterback is correct. To state he will make the NFL Hall of Fame as a quarterback will never be stated. Welcome to the Randall Cunningham, Kordell Stewart Hall of Never Fame.
By t-towndawg
November 23, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this
BirdDawg, You big mouth dumbas$, do you really think that Blank gives a rats a$s what you think or want. Steve may be your voice, but Arthur ain’t listening. Vick is not smart enough to call audibles. He will never take ANY team to the big dance. He sucks as a quarterback.
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
November 23, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
Mora went looking for an offense Vick could run.Where did he go? West Virginia !not just a collige offense but an option run by an under sized FRESHMAN !!!what does this say about Moras’true judgement of M.V. I’ll say again Vick came into the league a very good college qb and he remains just that.
By GeorgiaWhitey
November 23, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this
Face it blackthugs..your “boy” Mike Vick just does not have the intelligence to be a great NFL QB. Why did he leave VT after only 2 seasons. I know someone who was there at the same time and Vick was failing most every class. Sure he did have the smarts to clean out King Arthur’s checking account, but thats where it ends. He needs to move back to the hood in Newport News and assume his alias, Ron Mexico. Good riddance..hasta lavista MoFo! Take Roddy White with you.
By long time falcon
November 23, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this
Moron JR. is being coy when it comes to his praise of mike vick. Of coarse he really wouldn’t take mike vick over any player ever. Hell he probably wouldn’t even pick him for his team period. Blank has put vick on such a high pedestal that no one in the organization dare say anything negative about him. Vick knows this and will use his leverage against anybody who dares to cross him. Vick doesn’t have the drive to be a champion, such as a guy like joe montana. He never will since he gets coddled and babied by the owner of the team. Why do you think Moron SR. made the remarks about vick being a coach killer? Because vick has more power than the head coach in the falcons organization and is allowed to do as he pleases. Moron jr. is basically at the mercy of mike vick, and he knows it. The more I see from this disaster of a team, the more I point the finger of blame at arthur blank. He is the one that created this nightmare.
By phoennix10
November 23, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this
I’ve been watching Vick since his days at VaTech and I was hoping that he would “turn the corner” and get it.
However, after this year, I’m finally given up on him. He’s a terrible passer and his decision making is terrible and WAY to slow. The West Coast offense is predicated on having a short PRECISE passing offense.
Mora Sr. is right! Vick is NOT precise nor accurate!
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
November 23, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
To Georgia dumba$s(I meen whitey) and all of you dumba4ses both black and white that live with your heads up your smelly dumba$ses, GROW UP !!!! Anyone who can’t express themselves without the use of racial commentary are inarticulate backwards thinking YAHOOS !!!
By BirdDawg
November 23, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
All you retarded, racist, i’gnant Vick haters: THANK YOU.
You dumb@$$es, y’all all just proved my point about you.
And I’m as lilly-white as the next guy.
But y’all are pathetic. Just remember, Jesus don’t let anyone into heaven with hate in their heart or prejudice staining their soul. Have fun in hell!!!
Now, as far as me being that retard, Cafaro, well, I’ve answered that charge enough times. My wife married Bill Jones. She’d be more interested than anyone to find out that I’m someone else. And so would my son and little grandaughter, too.
By Ronny
November 23, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this
To the bloggers who think Vick would be better off playing for Jon Gruden— I can only say I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. Gruden is a foul-mouthed jerk who shouldn’t be allowed to coach in the NFL, college or high-school. A horrible example for young people to follow. They can lip-read, you know. Mora seemed to be following the garbage-mouth route last year, too. Monica Kauffman even said once that Mora’s mouth should be washed out with soap! And Blank probably called him on it— ‘cause this year Mora’s cleaned up his side-line act a little. Unfortunately not his coaching act, though. (By the way— ever notice what class acts Gailey and Richt are on the sidelines? No temper tantrums and other garbage from two fine men and coaches.)
By Matthew Cafaro
November 23, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
Dear Mr. Bill Jones, aka BirdDawg,
WTF are you doing calling me a retard. You don’t know me you old b!tch.
And did you ever hear the song “Me and Mrs. Jones?” Yeah baby!!
By jimmy smith
November 23, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this
i saw former falcons receiver terrance mathis on tv the other day and he said that all of you who are waiting on vick to “take it to the next level” will be waiting for a long time because there is no next level. he said that vick is a great runner with a strong arm and that is it. i totally agree. i also just read that jim mora jr. was attempting some butt kissing by saying that if he could have one player to start a franchise with, it would be vick. if he is serious then he is also stupid. there is not a person in the world who knows anything about football who would take vick over the player that the falcons would have had if not for the trade, ladanian tomlinson. tomlinson will end up in the hall of fame and vick will end up as a huge disappointment. we are stuck with him. even if we decided to trade him, which won’t happen because arthur blank would have to admit that he made a big mistake, and his ego is much to large for that, there is no team that would touch him. it is not vick’s fault. he is the best athlete in the league. too bad he is also one of the worst qb’s.
By mj
November 23, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
Right on Jimmy Smith. I’d take LT and Matt Schaub and our offense and beat Vick and Dunn and our offense 8 out of 10 times. As for Gruden and Vick, he would eat Vick’s lunch. Look how he stays on Simm’s and Vick doesn’t have nearly the football intelligence that runs in the Simms family. The only thing keeping Vick in the ATL is $100 mill and cap restrictions.
By Jeff D
November 23, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this
Jimmy Smith —
I saw Terrance Mathis on tv, too. He made no such comments. What he did say is that for Vick to succeed, he needs WR’s who get off the line fast and who quickly come out of their breaks. He made it clear that the Falcons WR’s don’t do that.
By Ken Strickland
November 23, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this
IT IS SO EASY TO TELL WHICH BLOGS ARE SUBMITTED BY AFRO-AMERICANS…THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME STUPID THEME. IT’S NOT ABOUT RACE PEOPLE. COACH KILLER, with you, and trash like you, it’s all about race. Let’s face it, only a racially insensitive anal retentive moron like you would not view the above statement as racist. ENOUGH SAID.
By dean
November 23, 2006 08:12 PM | Link to this
I see where the broncos are changing qbs next week because plummer is not getting it done. his numbers are better than vicks. guess we know which coach wants to win and which does not.
By Madden King
November 23, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this
Dean where do you get your information from, Plummer is not having a better season than Vick, here’s the stats, Plummer’s numbers “150 completions, 1,778 yards passing, 10tds 11ints, QB rating is 69.7, 33att. for 100 yards rushing and 1td.”
Now Vick numbers, “141 completions, 1,686 yards passing, 13tds 9ints, QB rating is 74.6, 86att. for 704 yards rushing and 2tds.
Now from what I see Vick has thrown more TD’s, less INT’s, rushed for more yards, have more TD’s rushing, has a higher QB rating, the only thing that Plummer has an up on Vick is passing yards but he’s only ahead of Vick by 92 yards, now if you think that Plummer is still having a better season than Vick then you are really Stupid. HOLLA! GO FALCONS! GO VICK!
By dean
November 23, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this
and by the way, I’m gay.
By mike
November 23, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this
Mr.VD Ron Mexico sucks, I dont care if he is black green or blue - he sucks and he is so overpaid that they cant afford to get many good players.
By jimmy smith
November 23, 2006 09:47 PM | Link to this
to jeff d… i don’t know if this ever occured to you but i bet that terrance mathis has been on tv more than once and when i saw him he said EXACTLY what i said he did.
By Wayback Falcon Fan
November 24, 2006 12:00 AM | Link to this
STEVE I AGREE WITH A PREVIOUS POST I LISTENED TO JIM MORAS POSTGAME INTERVIEW AND MONDAY PRESS CONFERENCE. WHAT ARE WE PLAYING HERE SOFTBALL? NO ONE ASKS IS GREG KNAPP THE PROBLEM AND HOLDS HIM ACCOUNTABLE HE GIVES US THESE RA RA BS ANSWERS THAT LIFE IS ABOUT ADVERSITY. I AM AFRAID LOSSES TO DETROIT AND CLEVELAND IS NOT ADVERSITY IT IS PATHETIC. I AM LIFELONG GEORGIA NATIVE AND YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO GROW A SPINE ASK THE TOUGH QEUSTIONS GET JIM BS MORA FIRED UP….PUSH THE BUTTONS SO HE BLOWS HIS LID…..IF YOU GUYS CANT GET THEN HIRE SOME FRESH BLOOD AT THE NEWSPAPER THAT WILL ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AND PUT HIS FEET TO THE FIRE.
By UncleKracker
November 24, 2006 12:03 AM | Link to this
you poor pathetic hoodrats..people are finally realizing Vick is a crappy QB and you all want to scream racism. YOu can’t admit OJ slashed his wife and her friend just like you cannot admit that Vick sucks! He just does not have the intelligence to be an NFL QB. He can’t help that..he is from the hood! And that is where he needs to go back to with all the millions he has stolen from Blank!!
By Steve T
November 24, 2006 12:04 AM | Link to this
By Ken Strickland
November 22, 2006 09:27 PM | Link to this
Thanks STEVE T. I am not a player or a coach, but I have a very good grasp of pro football. I tape the games and analyze why the OFF or DEF failed in key situations. This team could go to the SB with the OFF talent it has, except for a REC upgrade. The run blocking scheme has worked in Denver for decades and it can work here. The problem with this OFF is coaching staffs poor implementation of the OFF.
The 49ers west coast OFF reinvented the FB & TE positions as weapons, especially in the passing OFF. Dan Reeves drafted JGriffin because he was a good runner, had very good hands, and was an excellent blocker. Mora & Knapp have decided to ignore 2 of his attributes and use him exclusively as a blocker.
All teams, when playing the Falcons, make their RDE maintain outside containment in case of a Vick bootleg. They also have a spy, usually a LB, which means there are usually 2 DEF player assigned to contain Vick. Suppose the Falcons ran a bootleg, except this time they rolled the HB or FB with Vick. The back could either block the DE or spy, or fake a block and become a down field safety valve REC. This would put tremendous pressure on the DE or spy to either go after Vick or cover the back. And if Vick gets the ball to either Norwood or Dunn in the open field, it is lights out.
We allow DEF’s to stack their LB and Safeties at the line of scrimmage. Our OFF system doesn’t put any pressure on their LB’s to cover our backs outside the formation. DC should be terrified of letting Dunn or Norwood, and even Griffin, get outside the formation and go one on one against their LB’s. The minute a DEF crowds the line to blitz, on passing downs, the OFF should go to a hot read. (1)They should go to a split backfield, which makes it easier for the backs to receive an outlet pass in the flat. It also means the QB has an outlet on either side. Teams will have to account for these 2 backs with either a LB or safeties.
With a DE & LB spying Vick, possibly a LB and safety covering the backs out of the backfield, and 2 CB’s and a FS covering our REC’s, that leaves 4, no more than 5, defenders rushing the passer. Even our OLine should be able to handle that.
By Steve T
November 23, 2006 12:22 AM | Link to this
I think we found a person to fix the falcons: Ken Strickland! This guy is a student of the game.
By Tyrone W.
November 24, 2006 12:07 AM | Link to this
man all yoo honkies bettar be leeving Mike Vick aloan..he a good playar. If he be trade than Alanta wont be no goode. Yall just playar hatars cauze he a black man whoo bee rich.
By Steve T
November 24, 2006 12:19 AM | Link to this
“The 49ers west coast OFF reinvented the FB & TE positions as weapons, especially in the passing OFF. Dan Reeves drafted JGriffin because he was a good runner, had very good hands, and was an excellent blocker. Mora & Knapp have decided to ignore 2 of his attributes and use him exclusively as a blocker.”
Why aren’t the falcons running a west coast offense. We do not use the FB as a weapon. Everyone knows that Dunn or Vick will run the ball. Justin is a very capable runner and we do not use him. Have we used a set with split backs?
I am sitting here thinking about the fact that we have a 300 pound TE and a 240 pound FB/TB. If we put Eric at FB and Justin at halfback in a split back set, this will help with blitz pick as well as having a back coming out to run a pass pattern. Is it Vick who is limited or is it Knapp who is limited. Any offense coach worth his salt would be dreaming up plays for this team to run. If you want to know how to use Vick look how Big Tuna is using Romo. Now the Big Tuna is a coach and a dayum good one.
By MALONE
November 24, 2006 01:00 AM | Link to this
Who gets fired first: Mora, Knapp or Vick?
By In Side
November 24, 2006 01:19 AM | Link to this
Vikk will not be benched, butt after he & boss-blank conversate, Kone Ro wif hurpies will be traeded. AT HIS DEMAND.
By Hank Quinlan
November 24, 2006 01:30 AM | Link to this
Michael Vick should be made cheif of the Atlanner po-leece. That way none of the copPs would pop a dozen caps in the chests of a 92-year-old black woman after dey knocked down her do at fo in da moanin’
By Dannotdan
November 24, 2006 07:47 AM | Link to this
MaddenKing You are absolutely right Vick may actually be marginally better than another career slow thinking, bad decision making, run first, think later QB, Jake Plummer. Plummer was at least a four-year starter at Arizona State where he was the school’s all-time leader in completions, attempts and passing yards. His 65 career touchdown passes in college are ranked third all-time in Pac 10 conference history earning him a finalist position for the Heisman Trophy. Plummer with all of his college accomplishments and physcal skills still went in the second round………………..why, because he like Vick tested poorly and was thought to be a poor decision maker. Plummer has had QB ratings in the 70’s or under for 7 of his 10 pro seasons because like Vick he was blessed with a pro arm but less than a pro mind. That is quite an accomplishment for Vick after just 6 years to be considered in the same league as an NFL journeyman hack who has never won anything. I think Vick is also better than the Ravins second string quarterback.
By CQ
November 24, 2006 07:50 AM | Link to this
How is a QB in the NFL not allowed to call an audible. No wonder we see drives stalling on Sundays. I have never heard such a thing in my life.
Blank, fire the staff NOW!!!! The is the NFL not high school football.
By Mark
November 24, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this
Lets be honest here The players play the game and get paid way good to perform.Vick needs to look like a leader not like a thug on the field in front of millions of people.He is the not what I would want my children to value, appearence is important!He must have a problem with hisinnerself or he wouldnt look the way he does. He makes 140 million and he trying to make a statement to others by looking like a thug..it doesn’t make since, Im thinking he is over 25 now. A QB stands out from the whole team THE LEADER, THE MAN..what does other fans think am I being to hard on his dress style hair style etc?
By virginia falcon
November 24, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this
It’s pretty amazing how quickly and fully this blog has deteriorated into a racial war. Im white if that has anything to do with a discussion of Vick, but my question to those who seem to despise him is this: IF Vick is as bad as many of you seem to be convinced he is, then with such poor physical skills, poor cognitive skills and poor team spirit, HOW did he manage to play two excellent games in a row against PITT and CINCY?? Seems like it would be impossible for anyone with only the skill of an average high school QB(because that seems to be the hysterical analysis) to accomplish.
By jimmy smith
November 24, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this
to mark.. i don’t know if you are being too hard or not. i am from a totally different generation and his appearance is not something that i am comfortable with. i do agree with you that he should be more of a leader and that is not something that he earns just by making a lot of money. if it was possible not to judge him on his race or his dress or his hair or anything else and you just looked at him as a football player then what you would have is a great athlete who could play qb in college and be fairly successful and a great athlete who has no business taking another snap as a quarterback in the nfl.
By CQ
November 24, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this
Its a shame that people use this blog for racial insults.
This blog is about calling audibles.
If you want to call each other racial names go to the GA Dome on Sunday and scream these racial insults and stop hiding behind the net.
By mj
November 24, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
I believe Vick said he wasn’t going to cut his hair until the Falcons reached the Super Bowl. Good for him to keep his word and conviction. He is going to have a lot of hair at the end of his career. Stats tell the tale. He can’t get us to the super bowl with his legs. Got to have the mental and physical ability to get it done with his arm and that’s just not gonna happen. Stats tell the tale!
By Ken Strickland
November 24, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
Michael Vick has done a great public service for a lot of people on these blogs. He has shown those who believe the old saying, ATLANTA IS A CITY TOO BUSY TO HATE, there is a sizable, and vocal group of confederate loving haters in and around the ATL. Judging from their uncivilized, emotionally charged, animalistic responses, they are incapable of engaging in intelligent reasoning, especially when it comes to the issue of MVick playing QB.
These uncivilized individuals have gravitated from questioning Vicks intelligence, dress, and sideline demeanor, to attacking ABlanks jewish heritage, to claiming all posts by by Afro-americans are stupid, to the finally using the gutteral expression that defines their limited IQ’s, N****.
By THE ENQUIRER
November 24, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Just a little rumor i heard Vick is playing poorly because he wants to get Jim Mora fired. If you check all his press conferences he is constantly taking shots at the play calling, he even did it during the pro -bowl last year. He said during his last press conf. that he cant audible at the line, they asked him why he said that hasnt been put in yet. funny, funny, Let me say this to all the people who hate Vick this guy has no reason to care about this team losing because he guaranteed 37 million and when alls said and done will end up with about 50 million of Arthur Blanks money. If i was him and they cut me from the team I would retire and not have to put up with this crap. But in the end Mora will definitely go first he doesnt put fans in the seats, and he doesnt win games, and he doesnt have a cap number.
By Mike L.
November 24, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
Virginia Falcon.
I will tell you how he managed to play well in those games. He wasnt under pressure constantly. He actually had time to set his feet and throw. Receivers had time to run their routes and catch. the protection in those two games was good.
The game against PITT was the first game where Lehr was suspended and Forney was injured. At the same time, the PITT game was right after the Mike Vick interview on HBO - where he pleade fro more passing game. The rookies Clabo and Alexander sepped in and did a hell of a job in protecting Vick in the passing game and the game took off. Vick also got to throw like 40 times that game.
Did anyone get a chance to watch Broncos v. Chiefs last night? It was very interesting to see what happens. the Broncos have the lightes offensive line in the game and the Chiefs have the third lightest. obviously none of those teams have the line fit to drop back and block 20-25-30 times a game. it showed very clearly the drawbacks and the advantages of a smaller offensive line. KC got out on top - they started the game with a lead. Since Denver had to play catch up, they had to rely more on the passing game than on the running game. they were running into trouble all night long, trying to protect Plummer int eh passing game! Plummer was under pressure (still had a solid game), but they could not sustain drives(out of 57 plays Denver ran the ball only 16 times). On the other side … KC with a lead ran the ball down Denver’s throat. Smaller Oline proved very effective when running the ball 41 times out of 64 plays.
Two things happend - first of all, Denver’s defense statred wearing down from being pounded over and over again and Denver’s offense had to rely more and more on the passing game, because they were unable to get back into the game - they could manage the clock well and ended up putting their defense back on the field.
Result - KC controlled the clock for over 35 mins and had total control over the game.
Now - how does that compare to the Falcons? Well, our offense is built in a similar way than Denver’s offense is. (from the standpoint that we are a rushing team witha small ofeensive line and a mobile QB). So, if we manage to get out with a lead, we are a very diffivult team to play against. If we start the game falling behind, it is very difficult for us to catch up.
The thing that bothers me though is that in the past 3 weeks we totally abandoned the run. We played Detroit 26th against the run and Cleveland 28th against the run. Yet, we ran the ball only 16 times against Detriot (out of 60 plays - forget about Vick scrambling … im talking about designed runs) and ran the ball 22 times out of 77 plays against Cleveland. Where is the logic in that? Since two of your offensive linemen are out you totally abandon the foundation of the team?
We either need to stick with our Philosophy - being a running team, because we are built for it and we are good at it or rebuild the offensive line to be able to protect the QB better in the passing game.
By Mike L.
November 24, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
more food for thought - with the debacle going on in Tampa Bay and Gruden possibly leaving the Bucs, the Falcons might be able to eye some coaching talent to their team next year. No, Im not talking about Gruden himslef, im not sure i like the job he is doing in Tampa. when the regime changes the coordinators usually go as well - one of the best coordinators in the league Monte Kiffin might be looking for a job next season - and since we have Mckay over here that has to thank Kiffin for winning the superbowl, we might just as well see him come to Atlanta. Kiffin already knows the NFC South like the back of his hand … and with all the talent we have on defense in Atlanta … hmmm i smell trouble for other teams.
By Ken Strickland
November 24, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this
If you are walking down your favorite trail, and you start stepping in dog s$$t, you realize it might be better to find another route. These blogs have become littered with the fowl smelling stench of racism, deposited by a bunch of confederate loving morons.
I am going to find another venue to express my views on the Falcons. The AJC obviously doesn’t monitor these blogs. So until they start screening these idiots, whose responses are motivated by issues that go beyond football, I’m through posting. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU INTELLIGENT FALCONS FANS, OF ALL PERSUASIONS, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DESCUSSING SERIOUS FOOTBALL ISSUES. GO FALCONS!!!!!!
By Bobby
November 24, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this
Every QB that is successful have a good to great offensive line and decent QB. I can’t say it is Vick or all the other problems on offense. We will never know as long as we are using this undersized smoking mirrors line. Compared to Brady, Manning and all the other QB’s that are doing very well, how are their offensive lines holding up? How mant dropped balls a game do they have? Even Manning when he had no time and was hit all day performed awful against the Cowboys. Let’s be fair, Dunn can’t even get 60 yards a game now. This offensive line was never made for a passer. Put Brady or Manning back there and they would do no better and more than likely out for the season. Judge Vick after he has has the tools to succeed. We have jail breaks at the line, and an average of 4 to 5 legit dropped passes a game. If we had a Torry Holt or a Steve Smith at WR, real go-getters, we would still have problems with the line but at least we may have a win or two more. Someone said Vick killed Peerless Price career. Peerless couldn’t crack the Cowboys line-up and not I don’t believe he is even a starter for the Bills. He was supposed to be a game breaker WR. I wide outs maybe compared to Peerless and at this point if they went to another team, they would get lost in the line-up. Give Vick the tools to succeed in a line and receivers and then make a decision.
By bobby
November 24, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
Vick doesn’t have the line or receivers to be a very successful QB. NO receiver has left the Falcons under Vick and gone off to explode on another team. Look at Peerless price. Barely made the Bills. Manning or Brady would get killed behind our smoking mirrors line. They wouldn’t make the season. We average about 4 to 5 legit drops a game from receivers. If we had a real #1 like a Torry holt or Steve Smith, real go-getters we would have at least 2 to 3 more wins. Judge Vick after he has all the tools on offense like the other QB’s who are doimg well, who just seemed to have all day to make decisions most of the game. Prime example, Manning in Dallas. You have to give the Ok to audible out of run to pass, Vick can’t call it no worse than Knapp has.
By mo
November 24, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
**THE RACISTS ARE JUST TRYING TO DISTRACT YOU ALL FROM THE TRUTH ABOUT THE FALCONS. KNAPP NEEDS TO BE FIRED RIGHT NOW, AND THEY CAN’T STAND IT.
JUST IGNORE THE RACISM AND LET’S GET TO THE TRUTH, OK? DON’T EVEN ENGAGE THEM IN CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND ENERGY.
LET’S DISCUSS THE FALCONS ONLY AND LEAVE THE STUPID, RACIST COMMENTS TO THEMSELVES.**
Now, the speak on this situation, I think that this game is Knapp’s last if they don’t show improvement. Perhaps we’ll get an OC that will utilize the talents that we have on the offense.
By Micheal Vick
November 24, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
Hurpies has nuffin ta doo wif how badd I am a playah. Dat beatch who I gave da hurpies got muney from mee. I aw-diBALLed her, sho nuf.
By CQ
November 24, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
The Falcons need to do away with this whole offensive system next year and get rid of Knappafter the last game. We need a big offensive line that can run and pass block and not just chop block. Open up the offense and let Vick call audibles when he needs too.
By KlanStan
November 24, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this
The racecard was thrown by the afro-americans on here. Its the same theme..anytime something negative comes up then you say whitey is out to get darkie. It worked with OJ and its appears to be working with Ron Mexico aka Mike Vick. Stop the crap all you hoodrats. This is nothing about the color of skin but we know you want it to be that. King Arthur does not have the nads to trade or bench Vick. Jim Mora Sr was right..Vick is a coach killer. In the Falcons case he is a team killer. He is a thug..you can take the thug out of the hood, but you cannot take the hood out of the thug. Most other NFL QB’s look professional..Vick looks like a gangsta in a rap video. I would not spend a nickel to see the Falcons this year!! All you whitey-hating darkies just shut up with the racism.
By CQ
November 24, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
Atlanta has got to have some of the worst fans ever. There can never be a serious discussion about a team in Atlanta other than Hockey, without someone resorting to racial slures.
Why are people so uptight about what Mike Vick looks like? Is it because he dresses a certain way or wears his hair a certain way or is really because he makes alot more money do you do???
By KlanStan
November 24, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
CQ..no one is uptight about the way Ron Mexico dresses or the way he wears his hair, though he does look like a thug instead of a professional athlete. We are uptight because its been 6 seasons with him and he still sucks. Mora and Blank are too afraid to bench him or trade him. If they did, Jesse “Baby Daddy” Jackson and Al “Jheri Curl” Sharpton would be in Atlanta organizing riots. I used to be a big #7 fan because I thought he would mature as a player and leader..neither has happened. The Saints will beat the Falcons like a drum and Vick will sit on the sideline with that blank stare on his face. He just does not have the aptitude..face it. No playoffs..no championships with him under center. The color of his skin is something the brothas / sistas introduced into this blog.
By Tony H
November 24, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this
just give vick and the falcons time. i think they can beat the saints this week with abraham coming back. vick with not let this team lose this week. he know that this season is in his hands. so don’t hang vick and the rest of the birds just yet. i think vick told knapp that they need to get back to what they were doing verse the steelers and bengles. vick is a winner and this week is all about pride
By Mad at Falcons
November 24, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this
Man,
I just heard the news- Arthur Blank is mad and somebody’s about to lose they’re job!!!!! About time too.
These last two seasons have been bulls*. The Broncos are 7-4 and Jake Plummer is on his way to the bench. The Falcons are 5-5 and Vick is still standing? I’d bench his a* and put Schaub in. I don’t care if we end up 7-9. At least we’d have some fresh blood in there.
Vick and these clown receivers ain’t gonna do anything. TO WIN IN THE NFL, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO THROW THE BALL.
By Eric C.
November 24, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
From Blank: “In all due respect, and this is with great affection and love and respect for Dan Reeves, had I done that, Dan Reeves would still be our head coach…”
I must ask, in light of the break-downs the past two years, would this necessarily be a bad thing? Reeves couldn’t have done much worse.
By PW
November 24, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
AJC, SHUT THE BLOGS DOWN!
By Morry
November 24, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this
PW,
I concur.
By Kay
November 24, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this
It is time for Vick to be benched .. he is happy with his fat contract and being mediocre… bench him. Now, before the season is lost …
By mike
November 24, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this
Vick is absolutely a coach killer? The Falcons are stuck with him though, because they paid him so much money. At some point potential has to meet performance, and Vick will never do that.
By mike
November 24, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this
Let me preface this by saying that 2-3 years ago, I was a HUGE Michael Vick fan. Having said that…VICK SUCKS!
By Fans of Seasons Past
November 24, 2006 08:26 PM | Link to this
The “problem” with Michael is not his apptitude, rather, it is his attitude. Even that though is a result of the goofy way the Falcons are run and the emphasis on making him a sideshow to “entertain” the fans. Surely Michael would rather be winning for the fans. He has to be miserable.
Arthur, clean this mess up; install a competent coaching staff that can teach, mentor, and win; then stay out of the way and let everyone do their job. Do it now or we’re giving up on the Falcons again for the umpteenth time in the last 40 years.
By D1 Truth
November 24, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this
Vick Sucks? People get a life. Those of you that have said this, how many of you have ever played D1 college ball, let alone started on your high school team? If you haven’t, then you don’t get what happens on the field and in the locker room. I guarantee you that the guys in the Falcons locker room and guys around the league understand what Vick brings to the table. I also guarantee you that they are happy the Falcons coaching staff can’t maximize this guys talent.
By Diamonddaveincali
November 24, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this
Guys do your homework. Greg Knapp certainly doesn’t! Jim Mora Sr is a loose cannon analyst, who used to be a loose cannon headcoach.Does anyone remember his berating Peyton Manning? That comment was great for gossip until Sunday.
If anyone has tivo, you can do your own homework right on your telly. Vick’s drop backs are no more than 4-6 yards. when he completes his drops, our line is on top of him with no room to manuver. watching philly two weeks ago, I saw mcnabb averaging 8-10 yards in hs dropbacks. it gives him time to see the field, the routes opening up, and distance from the rush. it makes sense to me that giving Vick more time is necessary. But,Vick hardly ever throws to a reciever, who has his back to him. TO was right, Greg Knapp should be screamed at. For once I believe TO was right. What’sthe world coming to?
Steve, have you ever asked the coaches why vick’s drops are so shallow. Also, ask them if vick is not replaceable. Cant a benching fire up a player? Denver is about to bench Plummer, Bledsoe got benched.
It’s about decisions. More hired Knapp because they were buddies that got fired togetherr, and he wanted someone he knew. If he only knew that Knapp is not an NFL calibur OC. the pass routes are awful, and he has repeatedly called the same play 5-6 times a game. I have seen better offensive play calling at high school games.
Mr Blank, please fire Greg Knapp before Christmas, we need new direction with all the talent on offense. Oh, yeah you need to tell Jimmy that he has one year to right the ship, or he’ll be shipped back to daddy!
By Ray Cyst
November 24, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this
I will dance a jig in the middle of Peach-tard street when Falkons rid themselves of that suppurative fraud.
By Dan Reeves
November 24, 2006 11:05 PM | Link to this
I allowed MV7 to call audibles, when he played for me. Result……he passed for almost 3,000 yards.
How sooon everyone forgets!
By Dwight
November 24, 2006 11:17 PM | Link to this
$5000.00 to the person that can identify 10 games in the Mora era in which he “out coached” the other team.
By NumbaOneFan
November 24, 2006 11:19 PM | Link to this
Fact #1 Falcons play calling is lame and unimaginitive. Their execution is pathetic and this means poor coaching
Fact #2 Falcons offensve line cannot pass block or deal with the blitz… again this translates to poor coaching and lack of talent
Fact #3 Michael Vick is a dumb a s sack of hammers. All one has to do is listen to his interviews and his ignorance and ghetto thug just pours out. He is a stoner and one can see it in his eyes. I know cause I was a stoner. He is a running back period.
Fact #4 Let Michael Vick keep playing… hopefully he will suffer a career injury and we will be rid of this cancer.
Fact #5 I am not a racist… I am simply an educated fan who has watched enough football to know this guy will never be a winner. I could care lest if he was polynesian, pigmy or neanderthal… he simply is not smart enough to play QB in the NFL.
By Dwight the dumbäss again
November 25, 2006 12:27 AM | Link to this
Dwight, I’ll give you 50,000 USD if you can prove the book, The Bell Curve, is a fairytale.
By Steve T
November 25, 2006 01:29 AM | Link to this
THE ENQUIRER, I did not want to say anything, but I think the whole team may be losing to get rid of the coaching staff. People it happens. When players fine out that the coaches are not too bright they can throw the game.
Let us look at last week game. Sams is good but he shook at least five on one return and we keep kicking him the ball. Heck the players should heve told the coaches we do not want to kick the ball to Sams anymore.
By MARC
November 25, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this
VICK IF YOU SEE THIS, “PLAY YOUR GAME!” THESE SAME TYPE OF PEOPLE WERE DOWNING MICHAEL JORDAN, BUT HE DIDN’T CHANGE, AND IS NOW CONSIDERED THE GREATEST B-BALL PLAYER EVER! RUN LIKE YOU USE TO UNTIL THEY GET YOU SOME BETTER RECIEVERS, BECAUSE THEY ARE LETTING YOU DOWN BIG TIME! IF YOU HAVE TO CHANGE A PLAY IN THE HUDDLE JUST DO IT, IT’S YOUR FUTURE, PEOPLE WILL NOT REMEMBER THE BAD OFFENSIVE CORDINATOR THEY WILL ONLY THINK VICK WAS THE STUPIEST QB EVER, JUST DO YOUR THINK MIKE VICK! PEACE!!!!!!
By Dannotdan
November 25, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Mike Vicks problems are not racial they are statistical. Six years in the league and his career QB rating this year is 74 placing him 25th of the 30 starting QB’s in the league. This is not a problem with this years coaching staff, this OL, or this set of receivers as his average for his first six years is 75, (different coaches, different OL, different receivers)…………. this simply is what you get with Vick.
The top 10 QB’s in the league are at or above 90 with Romo and Manning both over 100, change coaching staffs, change OL, change receivers and Vick will still be Vick. Replace everyone and Vick will still not recognize what is going on out there, will still make bad decisions, will still miss open receivers, and will still have half of the city making excuses.
Here is the simple truth, a pro QB has two sets of tools one is from the neck down the other is in his helmet, everyone agrees that despite being size challenged Vick has the best tools from the neck down making what’s in the helmet woefully inadequate to run a pro offense.
By Titothebear
November 25, 2006 07:25 PM | Link to this
Jim Mora Sr. called it correctly! Mike Vick is a coach killer and he’s managed to get Mora jr.’s career on life support. Why would the offensive coordinator trust Vick? He can’t even execute the simplistic schemes they’ve given him to work with. Vick is physically gifted but not intellectually acute enough to absorb more than rudimentary offensive tactics. I don’t know him as a person. He may be the greatest guy in the world but he’s not a great quarterback. Tony Romo has been a starter for five games and he’s already matched Vick’s production, in ten games, for yardage gained through the air and touchdown passes. Romo’s team may well go to the Superbowl, while Vick’s is going into the toilet bowl. It’s not about hating! At least, it’s not with me. The hating comes from Vick’s proponents. Those who see him for what he is, a very flawed athlete, are derided in the most vulgar of ways. That, however, does not have the effect of turning Mr. Pigear into a silk purse or anything else useful.
By D!
November 25, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this
Falcons make the playoffs and Titothebear disappears forever. I can’t wait…until next year.
By Titothebear
November 25, 2006 10:55 PM | Link to this
D,
Foulcons make the playoffs and pigs fly. I know D! If the Foulcons make the playoffs I will resign from this blog and I won’t be back as Tito or any other name. However, you just might be stuck with me D. I don’t think the Foulcons are going to be in the post-season. By the way, you may call me “T”. We could be on a first letter basis. If you don’t mind my saying so, using the exclamation point is a bit of ostentation you don’t really need. It’s the equivalent of a fifty year old man showin’ off a gold tooth. It just don’t look right! It’s the same thing as over-the-top bling, only in a grammatical setting. You feelin’ me homes?
By Titothebear
November 25, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this
D,
Foulcons make the playoffs and pigs fly. I know D! If the Foulcons make the playoffs I will resign from this blog and I won’t be back as Tito or any other name. However, you just might be stuck with me D. I don’t think the Foulcons are going to be in the post-season. By the way, you may call me “T”. We could be on a first letter basis. If you don’t mind my saying so, using the exclamation point is a bit of ostentation you don’t really need. It’s the equivalent of a fifty year old man showin’ off a gold tooth. It just don’t look right! It’s the same thing as over-the-top bling, only in a grammatical setting. You feelin’ me homes?
By Titothebear
November 25, 2006 11:02 PM | Link to this
D,
Foulcons make the playoffs and pigs fly. I know D! If the Foulcons make the playoffs I will resign from this blog and I won’t be back as Tito or any other name. However, you just might be stuck with me D. I don’t think the Foulcons are going to be in the post-season. By the way, you may call me “T”. We could be on a first letter basis. If you don’t mind my saying so, using the exclamation point is a bit of ostentation you don’t really need. It’s the equivalent of a fifty year old man showin’ off a gold tooth. It just don’t look right! It’s the same thing as over-the-top bling, only in a grammatical setting. You feelin’ me homes?
By D!
November 26, 2006 12:06 AM | Link to this
Yeah, my ostentation is about the same as your need to post your message three times. Were you that excited to press ‘enter’?
By Steve T
November 26, 2006 12:29 AM | Link to this
**Dropped passes by game below are from Cappy’s extensive film analysis.
We will first look at our 5 losses and then we will look at our 5 wins and do a comparison.
LETS LOOK AT OUR 5 LOSSES FIRST
DROPS IN 5 LOSSES @NO = 6 = Jenkins 3 (3), Crumpler 2 (2), White 1 (2) NYG = 4 = Jenkins 2 (6), White 1 (3), Jennings 1 (1) @DET = 9 = Jenkins 3 (9), Crumpler 2 (6), Lelie 2 (3), Griffith 1 (1), White 1 (5 CLE = 5 = Jenkins 2 (11), Lelie 2 (5), Dunn 1 (2) BAL = 2 = Crumpler 1 (7), Griffith 1 (2) 26 dropped passes in 5 losses
SACKS IN 5 LOSSES NO- 5 sacks NYG- 7 sacks DET- 2 sacks CLE- 1 sack BAL- 5 sacks 20 sacks in 5 losses
IN THE 5 LOSSES THIS SEASON, WE HAD 26 DROPS AND 20 SACKS
NOW LETS LOOK AT OUR 5 WINS
DROPS IN 5 WINS @CAR = 1 = White 1(1) TB = 0 ARI = 3 = Crumpler 2 (4), Jenkins 1 (4) PIT = 3 = White 1 (4), Lelie 1 (1), Dunn 1 (1) @CIN = 1 = Norwood 1 (1) 8 dropped passes in 5 wins
SACKS IN 5 WINS CAR-1 TB-3 ARI-2 PIT-1 CIN- 2 9 sacks in 5 wins
WE HAD ONLY 8 DROPS AND 9 SACKS IN OUR WINS
CONCLUSION
There were 3 times as many dropped passes by our receivers in our 5 losses than in our 5 wins.
There were over twice as many more sacks in our 5 losses than in our 5 wins.
The haters are going to come unhinged with fury over this and spin the living hell out of the it….just watch.
As seen on ESPN’s “5 Burning Questions”
Schlereth: Not until he can get a consistent offense around him. Over the past couple weeks I’ve watched his receivers drop almost 20 passes. They are constantly in single coverage and not getting any separation. This is a team that needs new receivers not a new quarterback. If you can’t separate and get open in this league then you should be selling cars on the weekend not playing receiver in the NFL. They have a couple first-round wide receivers and they all play like No. 3 receivers. The American public can bash Vick all they want, but it’s not his fault.
Allen: Consistency is what everyone looks for from their quarterback. To get to that point you have to have a lot of confidence not only in yourself, but also in your teammates. Right now I’m not sure (Michael) Vick is confident in his receivers making plays because of the drops and that is hurting his development as a consistent quarterback. When those receivers are getting separation in one-on-one coverage he’s getting them the ball, but a lot of the time they aren’t holding on to it and that’s one big reason the Falcons aren’t playing well.
Theismann: Vick can be a consistent passer in this league and he’s proven that in small doses. He’s still learning the position and learning what offensive coordinator Greg Knapp wants him to do out on the field. Also, this team needs to start relying more on Warrick Dunn in the running game to take some of the pressure offVick.
ALSO, Ravens Trevor Pryce after playing Vick Sunday:
“Our focus was to get out of this game with a win to be 8-2,” Pryce said. “But I know this, for me personally, I never want to play Michael Vick again. He’s as special a football player as I’ve seen on any level. I’d rather play Peyton Manning several times than play him again, and you can quote me on that. So Mike Vick, thank you, goodbye, and I don’t ever want to see you again.”
By Steve T
November 26, 2006 12:38 AM | Link to this
Conclusion? Protect Vick and catch the ball and good things happen.
Goes to show it’s kinda hard to win when you’re runnig for your life and no one can catch to help ease the pressure. Basically thats the way to solve the problem. Protect,catch, and limit the amount of fumbles/interceptions =WIN.
By Titothebear
November 26, 2006 01:27 AM | Link to this
Steve T,
Oh, I see now. It’s not Vick’s fault! How about when he stands behind the line, like a statue, and looks only at one receiver and then launches a ground skimmer or throws it over the receiver? How about the 29 times he’s been sacked? Any of that his fault? When the Foulcons beat the Steelers and the Bengals, and he played magnificently, we didn’t hear any criticism of the line, the receivers or the coaches. Now, it’s somebody else’s fault and not Vick’s. Can’t have it both ways. Vick stinks and he’s headed to the bench unless he reclaims the form, dedication and aptitude he displayed against the Bengals and Steelers. He deserves credit when he plays well and criticism when he doesn’t. He hasn’t played well in the past three games and they’ve all been losses and he gets the blame!
By Steve T
November 26, 2006 01:42 AM | Link to this
Tom Brady can play well is he gets sack 7 times. The game against the steelers Vick had to time. I suggest that you sit time and watch some game film. I have watch enough games where the defense is in the backfield with Vick.
BTW, all you guys screaming for number 8, the boy is scared.
By morris
November 26, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this
Mora will be fighting for his job today. If the falcons lose this game it will be a death blow to their playoff chances. I don’t think this team would fight to save mora’s job once they are out of playoff contention. Remember how they laid down last year in the season finale against the panthers? Lose against the saints and you will have a one way ticket out of town jimmy boy!
By Rich McKay
November 26, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this
Memo to Arthur Blank Form Rich McKay
Arthur after watching yesterday’s UGA/Tech game you are absolutely right; watching Reggie Ball is in fact like watching another Mike Vick…………….and I know how watching your beloved Mikey sends you to your happy place. So I recommend that we immediately begin discussions with the Raiders to trade up to secure the #1 position in next years draft to assure that we get Reggie.
After all of Mikey success in his first six years we may have to pay a little more than the $140M we paid Mikey. I think it may be necessary to go $150M seeing that Mikey has proven that despite his 20 Wonderlic score, his sub 6 foot frame (and what a frame it is) his bad decision making, and worse execution the Atlanta market seems to have an insatiable appetite for undersized athletes that run around like chickens with their heads cut off.
I know that many of my GM counterparts around the league are way behind us when it comes to vision and player evaluation especially when it comes to the QB position. Many NFL GM’s are still drafting very smart guys that stand 6’-3” to 6’-5”, capable of not only seeing down field, but also able to digest an entire NFL playbook. They actually believe that intelligence, character, integrity, a quick mind and good decision making are important…………… and get this this Artie these rubes are not even measuring what the “hip hop factor” will do for attendance. It’s just a matter of time before they realize what you already have, winning is not as important as filling the seats and extorting the city for additional revenue opportunities found in a new stadium that is not needed.
We need to move on this immediately before the rest of the league catches up to the Falcons and starts evaluating talent based on your criteria “smoking hot sub-6’ body’s.
“Mikes the Bomb Dog” Rich
By Rich McKay
November 26, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
Coaches put players in position to make plays, QB’s see, react, execute. If they are any good they react quickly and execute well. There are no magic plays and none that have any chance of working consistently in the hands of a sub-standard QB.
Great offensive lines protect a very small, well-defined pocket for a few seconds on a very large field. No offensive line no matter how good can protect the entire line of scrimmage nor can they protect the pocket for more than a few seconds. So if a QB can’t make a good decision in a split second or runs around like a chicken with his head cut off the O-Line has no chance. This is not an O-Line problem it is a QB problem. To make Vick work in the NFL you don’t need a good O-Line you need to build a 5-foot wall (he could not see over a 6 foot wall) across the entire line of scrimmage so he can take a minute or two to make a decision while he runs from sideline to sideline.
Receiver separation under the best of circumstances is there for a second or two at a specific time and place on the field. Good NFL QB’s deliver the ball to that spot at that time, Vick does not.
Dropped passes………………watch a game, any game they happen, they just happen less often when there is a good QB in the game.
Stop making excuses
Schaub or Shockly Now
By morris
November 26, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this
Why was Dan Reeves on the field with arthur before the game today? hmmmn. Mora jr. and his staff’s jobs are on the line and all of a sudden old dan and arhtur are hanging out, interesting. I like Dan but I would prefer a much younger coach with talent, unlike mora jr. How about USC coach pete carroll or defensive coordinator ron rivera from the panthers.
By dean
November 26, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
the falcons suck. hopefully blank is getting the message as the stadium does not look full.
By BIG BLACK BIRD
November 26, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
How do you come out this flat against your biggest rival AT HOME? The Falcons have no pride. They are laughing all the way to the bank. This season is HISTORY!! FALCONS SUCK!!
By The Grinch
November 26, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this
I think Vick is getting a bad wrap. His passes so far today have been on the money (when he’s not getting pasted the instant he’s letting go), his receivers either aren’t fighting for the ball or are just dropping it. His rushing speaks for itself. Time for a new coaching staff and a true #1 receiver to embarass the others into trying harder. Knapp does not know how to utilize Vick, and Donatell is way too conservative.
By bk hawk
November 26, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this
The FAT LADY has been singing since last year and Blanks got WAX in his ears. Fire MORA and all his coaches. Where is Reeves when you need him? Get some balls Blank and step up and do something! 14-6 what a joke.
By Chris
November 26, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
Vick is the worst quarterback in the NFL. He is a good runner, though. Put him at running back and bring in a passer. I’m sick of watching Vick.
I’m also sick of different uniforms every week. The ugly black and black Halloween costumes they’re wearing today are sickening. Somewhere, Jerry Glanville is smirking.
By Chris
November 26, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this
Did you see the pathetic loser Vick SMILING as he walked off at halftime after the Coondogs gave up a Hail Mary for a TD? What a total LOSER, both Vick and the rest of that pathetic bunch of losers. Same old Falcons, just like the 1970, 80s and 90s. Vick is just as effective as Bob Berry, Kim McQuilken and Scott Hunter ever were.
By dean
November 26, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this
the secondary is a joke. the coaching staff is a joke. the team is a joke. they do not win another game this year. as bad as vick is the team is 10 times worst. all hall had to do was knock the ball down. what does the jackass do whiffs on the play.
By Jim Mora Jr.
November 26, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
My dad was right. All Vick can do is run. Brees is da man. I wish I had the opportunity to coach him, but Herock and Reeves screwed that up.
By KneeJerk
November 26, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
Deangelo is a joke. JUST KNOCK IT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!! Hall was trying to pad his stats with a cheap pick. He was trying to cradle the ball instead of KNOCKING IT DOWN!
By bk hawk
November 26, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this
Did you see Vicks walking off at half time all smiles hand up as fans bo0000000000000! NO PRIDE! NO CHARACTER! TO BLANK WITH THE FALCONS SHOULD CHaNGE NAME TO HUMMMMING BIRDS…………Everytime I see Mora on sideline I want to throw up.
By Dannotdan
November 26, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this
Stop blaming Knapp for not utilizing Vicks talents until Blank allows Mora to use him as a running back.
Vick can not pass the ball, get a QB in the game or run the wishbone.
By Phat Phalcon
November 26, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this
Guys I’m sitting on the fourth row right now blogging from my PDA and listening to Tracy Neville or whoever this is. The crowd is all over these guys. What I thought might interest you is that Dan Reeves was on the sidelines with Blank before the game. He was shaking hands and seemingly being introduced to people. Not saying it means anything but who knows? BTW the Falcons just came out of the tunnel and the loud music is barely covering the boo-birds. I’ve got a feeling someone is gone tomorrow barring a comeback.
By JYD
November 26, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
Chris, that’s an AMEN! Don’t forget Mike Morowski!
By dennis
November 26, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
This would be unbelievable if it was anybody else but the stumbling, bumbling, fumbling Falcons. First of all, why did they call a timeout when N.O. was willing to run out the clock for the first half. Then, with 7 seconds left, they go into PREVENT and put NO PRESSURE on the qb, giving him plenty of time to heave the ball 60 yards. How pathetic was that. Then with all the DB’s standing around, they let the receiver catch the ball. What else can they do to screw up this game?
By Dannotdan
November 26, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
Send Vick and D Hall back to Blacksburg
The Falcons would be better without them
Mora should be coach of the year winning 5 with these losers
By robert
November 26, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
WOW … I cannot believe how bad this team is playing. I actually find myself rooting for the Saints today because I want the new coaching staff to have a choice in April … Brady Quinn or Calvin Johnson. I wonder what kind of draft choices we can get for MV7? By the way, nice use of the timeout before the end of the first half. Saints still scored … what mad me truly mad was Henderson didn’t get the grab … I could have used another touchdown. (He’s on my fantasy team).
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
Let’s hope the birds were subjected to a profanity-laced tirade during half-time.
By dean
November 26, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this
why can’t he step up and throw the ball. why does he run into the defensive lineman.
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
I don’t think any heads will roll after a loss today since the NFC race is still pretty crowded. A loss next week though? Maybe.
By Greg Knapp
November 26, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
I just made a few adjustments at the half. Things should pick up shortly on the D side of the ball…. what the hell is Dan Reeves doing here? JIMMY!!!!!
By dean
November 26, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
phat thanks for the info.
By Dennis
November 26, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this
The entire team plays with no intensity. Vick was all smiles at half time. Does he even know the score? I like how he continues to carry the ball like a loaf of bread. Maybe he can’t count that high. This team makes me sick to my stomach. I will always be a Falcons fan but some changes need to be made and quick!
By william cranman
November 26, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
Couldn’t agree more KneeJerk. This secondary is the worst secondary I have ever seen. DeAngelo Hall is the most selfish all about me player in the NFL. Now that is saying something.
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
There’s a good idea…throw to a guy well short of the marker on 3rd and 20.
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this
Vick lacks the durability to be a running back; he’d have to add alot of tone to become a HB and that would probably take away from his quickness. Sorry folks, we’re stuck with him and that 10 year contract for what…seven more years?
By bk hawk
November 26, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
Phat Phalcon, Thanks man for the information keep us informed. Tell ole Dan I said hello (bk hawk) golf buddy.
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
No receivers
By robert
November 26, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
Why are the announcers getting on Alge Crumpler while praising Vick at every turn? He’s the only one on this team playing with any heart. I understand why he’s so p** off. The whole team has quit, and he has the worst quarterback in the league.
By william
November 26, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this
Rossum has got to make that play.
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
$100 bucks, says we kick a field goal
By Phat Phalcon
November 26, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
I wish I could talk to him. I’d love to know how hard he’s laughinh inside right now. Wow we completed a pass!!
By dean
November 26, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this
why do you keep running the same play at the goal line, when new orleans keeps stopping it.
By dean
November 26, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this
why does every other team have no problem throwing to their receivers.
By Joe
November 26, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this
Arthur Blank has probably never failed at anything…. until he bought the Falcons. If he don’t make some changes quick, this is one investment going in the crapper. The Falcons are done and I’m done with them. Been watching since 74, life’s too short to be miserable every football Sunday. MORA makes me sick!
By Tom
November 26, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
Does it seem that every time the Atlanta receivers run down field, they fall down “for no reason” and hope for a flag? I can understand that though, because if they actually tried to catch a ball they would have to answer questions about why they dropped it.
By robert
November 26, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this
I’ve been riding MV7 pretty hard, but Roddy just killed us on that 3-and-9 play. MV7 stood in the pocket, took a hit and made a good pass only to have another receiver drop a pass. Unbelievable.
By Rod Johnson
November 26, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
Fire them, all - the coaching staff is wores than the players - and the draft has proven sorry as of late - so who’s in charge of the draft?
By Billy C
November 26, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this
I agree JOE . PHAT anymore news on the sideline etc. thanks for up dates
By Rod Johnson
November 26, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this
And I cannot wait to see Mora gone… what a joke
By Rod Johnson
November 26, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
C’mon Arthur - can him!
By mo
November 26, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
I’m amazed that people are still talking bad about Vick. He’s doing all he can.
We had 4 dropped passes…
Oh, and I said hello to Reeves earlier. Blank is up to something after this game, if we lose. It’s late, though, and I am in some good seats at this game.
Shoot! The Saints just scored on a field goal…
By dean
November 26, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
I am trying to understand the drops. it has to be a lack of concentration. Is it that they are just not involved enough in the game. so when they get thrown to they are not prepared.
By Rod Johnson
November 26, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this
Roddy White was drafted by who…?
By Phat Phalcon
November 26, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
I think they should cut Roddy after the game. I certainly don’t want to imply that it’s all on him but he is the most egregious offender of the WRs in terms of inconsistency. If Blank is serious about accountability then this would be a step to show the organization that poor performance is unnacceptable. Let’s see, we’re down 11. We missed a fg, gave up a hail mary, and White dropped an apparent TD. If I add correctly that’s 14 points. Unreal. Did White just drop another one?? Geez…
By john
November 26, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this
I said the same thing Cranman. This must be the dumbest team in the league with all the talent it has.
By dean
November 26, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this
will be curious to see what mora says at the at news conference. is blank on the sidelines?
By The Grinch
November 26, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
White dropping that perfect strike by Vick was not Vick’s fault. Vick took one for the team on that one and it should’ve been the tying touchdown. Everyone talks about how he can’t throw, but notice his completion % in the Pro Bowl is about 80? Check the f-ing receivers on this team.
By Phat Phalcon
November 26, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
Mo I’ve been a major defender of Vick but he has made several awful throws today. One behind Lelie on a slant, two at Jenkins feet and of course the second and goal play. This passing game is broke from the OL to the QB to the receivers. It all starts with coaching. I don’t remember anyone on ESPN saying on draft day that these WRs were surprise picks. They were late round one picks on most boards. Why does a Devery Henderson become a good player while White falters? COACHING!!! What do they do to develop these guys???
By dean
November 26, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
Question, can atlanta win again this year?
By mo
November 26, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
Hey,
you all might see Reeves at OC. We’re gonna lose. It’s like 3 minutes left. Vick got sacked again trying to extend the play.
Blank looks sick, like he’s going to make a decision today. Don’t be surprised if someone gets fired today. The boos are so loud in here.
I’ve been reading up and people are mad because Vick was smiling at halftime??? C’mon! I was smiling too out of pure disbelief that the Dbacks allowed that Copper kid to make a play before halftime.
That was so pathetic, it was funny.
Oh well, I’m packing up my stuff and going home. Saints just scored- 30-13.
Seeya! I hope it’s the last game I see with Knapp on the Falcons bench.
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this
Redskins up by 3 over Carolina with less than a minute left.
By BOBO
November 26, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this
WHO DAT? SURE NOT THE FALCONS> ITS BREES
By Phat Phalcon
November 26, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this
Yeah Blank’s there. His expression is that of a man who’s dog just died. I’m telling you, something happens Monday. Don’t know what, but something. I can smell it.
By dean
November 26, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
I think at this point you can no longer point fingers, the whole organization has to take the hit.
By bk hawk
November 26, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this
PHAT PHALCON Man I have enjoyed your blog, thanks friend.
By mo
November 26, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this
Phat Phalcon-
Vick isn’t perfect. He made some bad mistakes, like those two sacks. He made a bad throw (throwing low to Jenkins wasn’t a bad throw because Jenkins wasn’t really open.)
Phat, I was noticing, though, that Blank stopped and talked to some players but not to any coaches. I’m in my car, so maybe he’s doing it now, but I was watching him more than the game during the last 3 minutes of the game. What about you? Have you noticed that?
By The Grinch
November 26, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
I’m not by any means saying Vick couldn’t use some improvement, I’m just saying it isn’t all his fault. This team showed today it’s poorly coached all the way around. Injuries are a big part of it, yeah, but…
Anyone notice Blank come over and give Dunn a pat at the 2-minute warning, like “Don’t worry, you’re not the one getting the axe.” Mora walking around on the field after the game kept looking over his shoulder like a dude trying to leave a bar before getting his a* whipped.
By Skippy
November 26, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this
Did you see Mora drop to his knees when Ironhands White missed one my 6 year old would have caught? That must be how he got this job in the first place.
By dean
November 26, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this
me too phat, enjoyed the info.
By DEADBIRD
November 26, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this
Blank made a terrible mistake letting Reeves go. The entire coaching staff from Mora on down are in over their heads. We forgive you Arthur. Now rectify that mistake by getting some conpetent coaches in here. You have no choice, the team has already quit.
By Skippy
November 26, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this
Hello Falcon fans, I am Carnac. I will now look into the future…..Warwick Dunn
up the middle for a one yard lose..That ought to catch em off gaurd..
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this
I agree that Blank needs to take action, but isn’t it strange that we’re all positively giddy over the prospect of someone being fired?
By Skippy
November 26, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this
Every Sunday about this time the Falcon’s
message board goes down. Isn’t that funny.
By dennis
November 26, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this
One really great thing about this Falcons team is that they don’t tease you - now you know real quick they are going to lose. Today, 3 plays by the Saints and we’re down by 7, never to catch up. After that first series, you can go out and cut grass or milk the cows and still come back inside knowing they have lost. The only mystery is the final score. Speaking of cutting grass or milking the cows, that’s what most of these clowns should be doing for a living. They sure don’t earn their paychecks on this team.
By KneeJerk
November 26, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this
Why didn’t we at least attempt to work on our passing game the last possession? I know we had already lost, but our passing game needs work. What washed-up ex-49er will we bring in this week? Is Pierce Holt still available?
By Skippy
November 26, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
Greg Knapp couldn’t beat a 3 year old at checkers
By bo
November 26, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
Thanks to Phat and Mo for info…Mora must go.
By Glass Half Full
November 26, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
Speaking of the 49ers, we now have identical records on the season. For shame!
By william cranman
November 26, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
Roddy White dropped a touchdown pass. Morton Andersen missed a 43 yard field goal attempt. And we give up a freakin’ hail mary pass for a touchdown to end the first half!!! The only fire I saw on the field today was from Crumpler. This team is in shambles and it doesn’t appear its going to get any better. When is the misery going to end?
By KneeJerk
November 26, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
I live in SoFla, so I can’t be at the games. For those of you that do go, PLEASE start the Junior Must Go chant!
By virginia falcon
November 26, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
IT”S NOT VICK”S FAULT He did not allow a 76yd td pass to start the game.
By Skippy
November 26, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
Newsflash: Merton Hanks spotted at Flowery Branch. Superbowl here we come!
By virginia falcon
November 26, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
IT”S NOT VICK”S FAULT
He did not give up a HAIL MARY PASS
By Skippy
November 26, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
Newsflash #2: Roddy White was just arrested for stealing Blanks money..Mora and Knapp are still at large..
By virginia falcon
November 26, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
IT”S NOT VICK”S FAULT
He did not give up a 14 play drive to eat up most of the 4th quarter
By virginia falcon
November 26, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
IT”S NOT VICK”S FAULT
By virginia falcon
November 26, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this
IT”S NOT VICK”S FAULT
He did not drop 5 passes including a game killer to roddy white
By Mac
November 26, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this
I had season tickets last year, I gave them up. Just watched the Falcons vs Saints. Falcons suck. I don’t know if I should blame the lack luster performance of Vick, the wide receivers, the defense…A. Hall or the management. One thing I know is that Author Blank should keep his mouth shut and let the coaches coach. I am tired of hearing how great Michael Vick is. He ran well the first half and then didn’t do s_ _ _ _ the second half!!!!!! Receivers couldn’t catch, defense couldn’t stop anyone… falcons are a fourth rate team. Unfortunately, I love them and I am becoming an alcoholic because of them. Someone PLEASE put me out of my misery!!!!!!!
By virginia falcon
November 26, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this
IT”S NOT VICK”S FAULT
He did not commit a numerous crucial face mask penalties, false start, etc…
say it with me now….. IT WAS A TEAM LOSS
By Skippy
November 26, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick could have had 300 yards rushing today. It seems like if something works, this coaching staff abandons it. The only play they will never abandon is Dunn up the middle.
By dean
November 26, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this
sorry virginia vick is the qb. he takes the glory when they win and the heat when they lose. however it is beyond me how to fix the team. there are so many problems.
By The Grinch
November 26, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
I switched to the Falcons network for the WXIA post-game show, and they were actually showing the one from last week. I don’t guess I blame them; the press conference was probably not safe for underage viewing.
Skippy, I agree. They do not seem to know how to adjust, and while Dunn is a great back, they really ought to be a bit more creative with him.
By ex fan
November 26, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this
Watch for Mora to be fired mon and Dan Reeves to be named interim coach for the rest of the year. They still have a chance for a wildcard but not with Mora and his band of idiots. I have been a Falcon fan for over 30 years and have never seen a coaching staff anything like this. They are not fit to run a high school team. Time to kick some butt instead of patting it.
By Dannotdan
November 26, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this
Vick was 9 for 24, for a smooth 37%, but I’m sure it was not his fault. I know it was not his fault because it is never Vicks fault. Bad coaches, bad O-Line, bad receivers, but Vick is great.
If those receivers caught every catchable ball SuperMike would have completed over 40% of his passes and he would only be 50% worse than the better quarterbacks in the league.
Open your eyes this is not an NFL QB, this is a guy who is too small to sit in the pocket, has no leadership quality and is the least accurate passer I can remember since Bobby Douglas. He has reduced the Falcons offense to a series of broken plays and has the ability to turn first round receivers into useless accessories in his sideshow.
Stop picking first rounders from Virginia Tech…………Intelligence and character counts outside of Blacksburg.
By uno
November 26, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this
CK7 strikes again! And not only do the Falcons have an incompetent QB, but they have a classless one as well, as Vick proved once again at the end of the game today.
By brian
November 26, 2006 09:05 PM | Link to this
all emotion aside this situation comes down to 2 issues: Is Knapp such a bad OC or are these the only plays that Vick can handle and run?
Michael Vick is the top talent in the NFL hands down, but at best he is an average QB. Either we need an offensive system to showcase Vick’s talents at QB and not conform Vick to a certain system, or Vick needs to be moved to RB/WR and Shaub inserted in as the starter. A decision needs to be made now because the season is quickly falling apart, and we need to make a decision on Shaub now because teams will be lining up to sign him in the offseason.
Personally Vick could be a game breaking player as a RB, slot WR, and a sometimes QB/change of pace. He is a bigger, faster, stronger Reggie Bush. Shaub can and should be a starter in the NFL. Give him a shot. Maybe we will actually get back to scoring more than 1 TD per game.
By brian
November 26, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this
Vick will not be Mora,jr’s coach killer. That would be Knapp, and Junior’s unwavering support of Knapp and refusal to adapt to Vick’s talents
By CQ
November 27, 2006 07:56 AM | Link to this
The Falcons need to do away with this whole offensive system next year and get rid of Knappafter the last game. We need a big offensive line that can run and pass block and not just chop block. Open up the offense and let Vick call audibles when he needs too.
By Mike Sucks
November 27, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this
VICK SUCKS! 9 for 24 passing! So you Vick fans are telling me the recievers drop 13 passes? He’s no leader as you seen at the end of the game, telling all you Vick fans, f_ you! He acts like he and his brother has switched places! And to top it off, he trash his team at post game press conference! Im sorry, he is one of the worse QB in NFL history!
By Tired
November 27, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this
Falcon fans have no choice but to tolerate Arthur Blank, but Blank needs to fire the entire coaching staff. Those guys are awful!
By black and gold
November 27, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this
who dat who dat who dat say they beat dem saints the falcons are who we thought they were losers better luck next yr i see u all had the saints as pretenders and the falcons as contenders wanna switch that around
By mo
November 27, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this
Dear Mike Sucks,
Uh, Mike Vick was the only weapon we had on the offense. The O-line played so terribly that Vick only had between 2-3 seconds in the pocket for each play. The receivers weren’t even down the field before Vick had to run for his life. That’s why he had those bad passing stats.
Mike sucks, I really don’t know if Mike indeed sucks. He hadn’t had the chance to suck. He was running for his life out there.
And after you run for your life all game and literally put your well-being on the line for the game with absolutely no help from his teammates, the first people he sees are some so-called fans calling him all kinds of stuff like ‘hoodlum’ and ‘black’ this and that, he flew off the handle and flipped the bird to those guys. Imagine if you were in that situation?
So, I actually felt sorry for Vick yesterday. I wish we could get some help on the offensive line and some receivers to that would catch the ball.
By David
November 27, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
Too many people want to blame Mora. I heard the same kind of talk with the last coach, who was fired. Let me give you some statistics: 2 first rounders for Vick; Tomlinson (running back) was available with Falcons original first pick; Brees (QB) was taken in the second round by San Diego. With some real thought, Atlanta could have had Tomlinson, and traded up some lower picks to get Brees in the Second Round, and still had the other 1st round pick for another good player. But we instead gave two first round picks to San Diego for Vick.
By Jose Pulido
November 27, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
Mike Vick is a Punk who speaks Ebonics!!!! This guy is not a Leader or a Quarterback… Years ago this guy he would have been asked to play a different position… He is certaintly that most over hyped player in the NFL! No Class at all….
By GC
November 27, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
The Falcons were the most over-hyped & over-rated team this season. I actually thought they were going to make a push deep into the play-offs this year. Instead of moving forward, the Falcons have made huge steps backwards. If the coaching staff is let go the Falcons will be making another huge step back.
As for the Vick factor, the Falcons should cut their losses and give their back-up QB’s playing time. We got nothing to play for and therefore nothing to lose. We can hope Schaub sticks around next season.
A note to the DB’s, especially Deangelo Hall… Knock the ball down! I don’t care for your interception. Halls showboating really hurt the team and also ends up as a Brees TD throw highlight on ESPN and Sunday night football.
By dean
November 27, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this
Is it possible that all those dropped passes by first round receivers are thrown by someone whom should have been a first round running back instead of a first round quarterback. Vick’s passes are almost always unmanagable.
By Peter
November 27, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Mike Vick a “Coach Killer”…..Maybe????
Younger Mora a Head Coach…….”Definitly NOT!”
HA HA HA……….
Hey Mike flipped off the stadium……
That is definitly a sign baby…….
Who’s on controll of the Assylum?
By michael
November 27, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this
Vick passed for over 3,000 yards under Dan Reaves. It takes a veteran coach to develope a young QB like Vick. Blank biggest mistake was firing Reaves. Mora defense at SF was not that good. Neither was the offense under Knapp. The west coast offense has produced 9 Super Bowls and 2 NCAA Championships. Mora and Knapp cannot get the message across to the players. They have wasted 3 number one picks to draft recievers. I hope that the Falcons scouted ND, USC, Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, etc. Michael
By billy stover
November 27, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
I watched the game yesterday,I saw Jim Mora kiss Vick in the tunnel. I wonder if he is kissing Blanks a** to keep his job.How can Vick play quarterback with a brain the size of a walnut.
By David
November 27, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this
The fallout for Jim Mora should be swift and sure because Mora has completely lost control of the Falcons. I hope that Arthur will do the right thing by Jim Mora and give him his pink slip for getting fired. Arthur should either do that or force Mora’s resignation because the Falcons are playing like horse maneur on Sundays. I don’t think the Falcon fans can stand any more of Jim Mora as their head coach. I also blame Arthur for giving Vick a blank check in his negotions with Vick. This is why Vick had that venamous attitude he had yesterday when Vick completely snapped and flipped the bird to his fans leaving the field. Vick was truly a “Dirty Bird” in every sense of the word as he embarrased the Falcons fans by showing his gratitude for the fans paying is ridiculously high salary by giving them the finger. We really don’t need a quarterback like that leading us. How about Matt Schaub for the starting quarterback position. I think if the Falcons had had Schaub as their starter for the entire year so far, the Falcons would probably be undefeated at this point. Don’t waste another minute with Vick as the starter and give that sorry punk bastard his walking papers. I AM CALLING FOR SCHAUB ONCE AGAIN!
By victordome
November 27, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this
first of all to all the name callers, how would you feel if someone called your son, or father those name not to good I would think. So, think about what you are doing,
If you are a true Falcon Fan and it truely appears to me that you are not.
T. Moore ,and Shultz get paid to write all the negative crap about the Falcons even when they win, they state if it lasts or for how long
Listen who if any knowingly would turn against someone in their time of need or help, an alcoholic, drug users etc.
True fan stick together no matter what , win or lose , no one like to lose but If ever A TIME THE FALCONS NEEDED YOUR SUPPORT IT IS NOW.
I LOVE MY BIRDS, AND WILL STICK BY THEM COME WHAT MAKE AND THE SEASON IS NOT OVER UNTIL THERE IS NO MORE GAMES TO BE PLAYED.
GO FALCONS I AM A TRUE BELIVER
IF U CAN’T SUPPORT THE FALCONS THEN JUST BE GONE AND THAT GOES FOR ALL SEASON TICKETERS THAT GIVE UP THERE SEATS TO OPPOSING TEAM,
SELL YOUR TICKETS TO SOMEONE THAT SUPPORT THEIR FALCONS
By Sharon S.
November 28, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
With all the pornography,sex, violence, homosexuality, degradation of women by big name rappers, etc, etc. being broadcast on TV and Radio, If all I had to worry about was them seeing or hearing someone shooting someone else the finger I would truly Thank God. C’mon America let’s truly find a REAL cause to stand up for. Like taking God out of everything we do!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! From a CONCERNED MOM!!!
By David
November 29, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this
I couldn’t stop laughing at the $20,000 fine that Michael Vick drew from the NFL for his obscene gestures at the fans. What a joke! Vick should have been fined $20,000,000 and I think he would have gotten the message. I really don’t like Michael Vick’s attitude and the way he goes about his job. Vick possesses the skills to be one of the top 5 passers in the game right now. The fact of the matter is that Vick shows up to the games on Sunday completely unprepared to pass the football effectively, irrespective of the fact that he is not getting help from his supporting cast at this time. I’ve seen enough to know that Vick needs to mature real quickly if the Falcons are to have any chance at all of doing something great this season. And for the fans that don’t believe that Vick is capable of being a great passing quarterback, go back and look at the films of the Pittsburgh and Cincinnati game. Vick looked like Payten Manning in those two games and that was this year, so Vick is ready for greatness and ready for action. You combine those passing skills with the fact that Vick is the greatest running quarterback in the history of the league and you will come up with someone who is superman or hercules at the quarterback position, that is provided he is clicking on all cylinders and playing up to his potential. At this point, however, the Falcons should fight for a playoff spot and try like heck to get in the playoffs. If the Falcons manage to get in the playoffs and if the receivers have corrected their problems of dropping balls, then I think the Falcons will go very deep in the playoffs, if not all the way with some backing from the fans and if the Gods are smiling on them. I think, expect and know that the Falcons will win superbowl, in spite of the fact that they have played like crap the last four weeks.
By ROMEDAWG
November 30, 2006 09:05 PM | Link to this
THIS COMMENT IS NOT JUST ABOUT MICHEL VICK BUT THE WHOLE ATLANTA FALCON’S IN THE HISTORY OF THE TEAM BEING IN THE CITY,THE FAN’S HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT THE TEAM HAS NEVER BEEN IN ATLANTA TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP OF ANY KIND. THEY WERE HERE TO MAKE MONEY!NO OTHER REASON, THE SMITH FAMILY OCCASIONALY, LET THEM HAVE A WINNING SEASON BUT THEY LOST MONEY SO THEY SAID REMEMBER WHEN LEEMAN BENNET HAD THEM SO CLOSE? THEN GOT FIRED FOR WINNING,THEY TOO HAD OVERPAIED PLAYERS THEN THEY SOLD THE TEAM TO MR. ARTHUR BLANK THE GREAT SAVIOR OF THE FALCONS THEY AGAIN WERE REAL CLOSE TO REALLY WINNING UNDER DAN REVEES.DRAFTED AN OVERRATED Q.B. THAT THEY KNEW COULD NOT THROW THE BALL,AND POOF NOMORE WINNING, AT THE SAME TIME OVERPAYING THIS SO CALLED Q.B.$130MILLION, KNOWING HE HAD NOT WON A SINGLE THING IN COLLAGE,ALSO AGREEING IN MY BELIVE TO ALSO DRAFT HIS BUDDY’S FROM V.A.TECH WHICH ARE ALSO OVERPAIED WHO HAS ALSO NOT WON ANYTHING,BROUGHT IN G.M. RICH MCKAY FROM TAMPA-BAY, WHO AGAIN HAD NOT WON ANYTHING BUT FELT HIS CHANCES OF BECOMING N.F.L.COMMISSIONER HERE THAN IN TAMPA-BAY,HE DO’S NOT CARE ONE BIT IF THE FALCONS WIN OR LOSE, THEN HE HIRES A SO CALLED HOT-SHOT ASST, COACH FROM THE 49’S TO LEAD THE TEAM, THAT WAS SUSPOSED TO BE BETTER THAN BREAD,WHO IN TURN BRINGS IN ASST,COACHES, WHO COULD NOT GET A JOB AT A HIGH-SCHOOL TEAM,THE SO CALLED WEST-COAST OFFENCE THIS CLOWN RUNS HAS NOT WON ANYTHING SINCE STEVE YOUNG RETIRED. EVERYBODY NOW IS SO DOWN ON THE RECIVERS THAT ITS A REAL JOKE, THE RECIVERS HAVE DROPPED A LOT OF BALLS BUT LETS LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES VICK HAS NOT PUT THE BALL WHERE THEY COULD CATCH IT OR EVEN IN THE SAME AREA OF THE RECIVERS ARE ON AND IT MUST BE SAID THAT M.R.BLANK IS 100%RESPONCIBALE FOR ALL OF THESE MISTAKES!THE FIRST YEAR OR SO HE HAD TO BEG THE FANS TO COME TO THE G.A.DOME TO WATCH THIS JOKE OF A TEAM THAT THE G.A HIGH SCHOOL CHAMPS COULD BEAT!AND EVERY YEAR SINCE HE HAS JACKED UP HIS TICKET PRICES,NOW M.R. BLANK SAYS THE G.A.DOME NEEDS TO BE REPLACED,IN A FEW YEARS,AND THAT HE COULD USE HIS MONEY IN THE SHORT-TEARM BUT NOT THE LONG-TEARM,NOBODY THAT I CAN RECALL TOLD M.R.BLANK TO SPEND A $130MILLION ON A BACK-UP UNPROVEN Q.B.THAT MONEY COULD HAVE GONE A LONG WAY’S TOWARD BULDING HIS NEW STADIUM TO GO ALONG WITH ALL THE BILLION’S OF DOLLAR’S HE AND OTHER OWNER’S GET FROM T-V CONTRACTS, IF THE FANS OF THE FALCONS REALLY WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO M.R. BLANK LEAVE THE G.A DOME EMPTY FOR A FEW WEEKS AND AT THE SAME TIME NOT WATCH HIS TEAM ON T-V OR RADIO AND JUST MAYBE HE WILL GET THE MESSAGE, THAT THE FANS ARE FED UP WITH HIS OVERPAID,UNDER TALANTED PLAYERS COACHES, AND OF COURSE HIS OWN DEDICATION TO CONTENUE THIS HORRIBLE HISTORY OF LOSING YEAR AFTER YEAR!AND IF HE WANTS A NEW STADIUM LET HIM PAY FOR IT!NOT USE THE TAX MONY OF HARD WORKING GEORGIANS,SO MAYBBE JUST MAYBBE HE CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE FANS ARE BOOING HIS TEAM, AND HIS OVERPAID SO CALLED SUPERSTAR Q.B.FOR FLIPPING ANY FAN OFF.FOR ANY REASON.JUST REMEMBER THE FANS PAY ALL THE SALARIES OF THESE PEOPLE, AND THAT INCLUDES M.R. BLANK