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Falcons must pressure Eli

The New York Giants boast enough offensive weapons to make things tough on the Falcons Sunday, especially if Atlanta doesn’t get pressure on Eli Manning. The likely return of defensive end John Abraham should, directly or indirectly, lead to some heat on the third-year quarterback, which could prompt some turnovers.

Cornerbacks DeAngelo Hall and Jason Webster will have their work cut out for them, as will strongside linebacker Michael Boley, who’ll probably get put in some man coverages on tight end Jeremy Shockey or his backup, Visanthe Shiancoe, if Shockey’s problematic foot injury keeps him sidelined.

Of the 10 offensive touchdowns the Giants have scored, nine have come through the air, three each to wideouts Plaxico Burress and Amani Toomer. New York likes to throw the fade route to the corner of the end zone, especially to the 6-5 Burress.

Hall and Webster are going to have to be physical at the line of scrimmage if the Giants venture inside the 10-yard line to knock the receivers off course on the fade route. If the defensive front can wreak some havoc on Manning, Hall and Webster should get some interception opportunities as well. Manning has thrown five interceptions.

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By Jeff

October 12, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

Steve,

Any word on how the Falcons plan to use Hartwell?

Do they plan to let Jimmy Williams match-up with Plaxico at all?

Do they have any plans to put Dunn and Norwood in the bakcfield together?

By Cedric

October 12, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

Yes the deciding factor in this game will be the defenses of both teams on the opposing QB. I think our running game should have a decent day against the G-Men. Hopefully Vick has a better day than the other Manning. If our linebackers come prepared to stiff the run attack and the screen passes the G-Men like to run then I think we should dominate the time of possession. That equals Falcons win!!!

By Bird of Prey

October 12, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this

Put in J Williams for one LB, let the two linebackers shut down the run with our better d-line, and sit j-will in the middle about 15 yds off the line.

By larry w.

October 12, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

The Giants pass protection can and has been suspect. That is certainly an area that the Falcons can exploit. With the return of Abraham, and a healthy Kearney, Eli should be in for a long afternoon. Passing effectively will be key for our offense. The Giants boast one of the best run defenses in the NFL. We must be able to back them away from the line with our passing attack to give our running game some room to operate. Man I’m glad the bye week is over!!

By Greedy

October 12, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

Steve , how likely is it we get randy moss in a trade for schaub. Its all over yahoo sports rumor mill that this trade could happen. Do you think it is possible? I agree that we need to put pressure on eli, I am worried about the no huddle offense that giants run. When eli runs his on plays he is a offensive monster. but i know my falcons will contain him!

By Facts

October 12, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

The Giants defense give up 346 yards per game. We should be able to run wild on Sunday.

By Smitty

October 12, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

Please say it ain’t so….not Moss for Schaub….we don’t need the headaches Moss would bring

By Larry

October 12, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

…but would could use the TD’s he’d bring, particularly in the red zone.

By kg

October 12, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

Moss? Wouldn’t want him on my team. Here’s a guy that’s not even trying anymore. Would you want a guy that gives up just because things aren’t going right? He should be one of the leaders on that team and he’s given up on the season.

By Larry

October 12, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

A “not even trying” Randy Moss is more effective than Roddy White and Michael Jenkins, combined.

By James

October 12, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Seriously though, moss is on a horrible team. Sorry to say but I feel Moss 100%. I wouldn’t want to really try either if i knew there was no chance for my team to even make the superbowl, let alone the playoffs i wouldn’t want to try either. If Moss was to come to Atlanta, he would raise the stock of the falcons post season push and would automatically become Vick’s #1 target.

By Frank in Jackson

October 12, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Troy Vincent was released. He would bring needed depth at the safety position.

By kg

October 12, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

No one questions his talent, or TO’s for that matter. But why do you guys think Moss was traded from Minn? He would destroy any chemistry the teams has and would be a total distraction from winning. Blank would never allow a trade for him and I agree.

By honest_abe

October 12, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

james that is the stupidest comment ever…just because your teams blows does not give you the excuse to not put forth 110% effort every sunday. this isn’t a game for these guys… it’s a freaking profession! they get paid millions of dollars to do their job. as a professional he should go out there and perform. this is the same guy that half a*******es his routes..HE’S A CANCER!! say what you will about TO… he’s a gamer…he comes out every sunday and lays it all on the line…not scared to go over the middle… moss is a punk! straight up! pleeeeeeeeease don’t tell me there’s any truth to those moss rumors.. please

as for this weeks game… i think we should get a good indication of just how dominant this defense will be this year… statement game to the rest of the league!

By Greedy

October 12, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

Randy Moss is still the best deep threat in the game. How many of his teamates have called him cancer,maybe one and he is playing behind joey harrington,lol. When has he ever been suspended a game for behavior. He is a gamer and we dont need him to go over the middle , we need him to take the saftey’s and the corner’s out of the box. He takes 2 guy with him auomatically, please dont argue that statement!!. ALL of sudden crumpler would have huge field day over the middle , vick has more room on roll out and Lelie stretches the other side of the field almost the same way. The running game becomes even more deadly. Watch espn’s clips of him trying to hype that terrible team up, he has tried to be a leader at the raiders, that situation is hopeless, the coach needs anti depressants after games. If that happens the vick haters dissapear and then everybody hates moss because of his corn rolls,like that matters when we talking about winning games.Oh but he has to look like steve largent to get respect just like vick has to like carson palmer to be a leader!lol

By honest_abe

October 12, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

greedy you’re missing the boat here… i don’t doubt any of his physical abilities as i think he is the most gifted receiver in the league… having said that…this is the same guy that said he didnt’ care that they lost to cleveland…and his reasoning being that nobody else on the team cares…. don’t give me that bs about him trying to be a leader…true leaders dont’ quit on their team no matter how bad the situation gets!

why bring him to a team that is 3-1.. yes the falcons have some red zone issues but they also have a full season to figure those out… why get rid of the only insurance when mike vick has never played all 16 games in a season for a lackadaisical, arrogant punk…

and greedy drop the stupid race card…i could care less if moss had corn rows or had a hair full of blonde hair… he is someone that the falcons don’t need this year… period. i don’t see athletes in black and white i see them for their abilities as well as their character… mike vick is an unbelieveable talent that wins games and has no problems off the field. i respect that. moss is a p** of a teammate and an even lousier person!

By Darrin "The Vent King"

October 12, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

Yes, I agree. We MUST get pressure on Eli or he will destroy our secondary. I’m sorry, I’m just not sold on them yet. Alot of team’s secondary could look good with the pressure we apply up front. The INT’s D-Hall and co. have been getting have been gimmes from rushed or bobbled throws from QB’s running for their life. I believe though, the guys we have will do well if, no make then, when the pressure up front gets to Eli. The Giants don’t have the best O-line and we have an above average D-line. That said and with all the discussion about Eli, I think the guy we NEED to worry about is Tiki Barber. It’s only a matter of time before he finds that end zone again and he is due. As for the Moss discussion, how does everyone add up that he’s been a disruptive force everywhere he goes in the NFL? The dude’s been on like TWO teams. One of those teams, Minnesota, for like seven years. You don’t hear too many GOOD guys staying on one team for that long anymore, let alone a disruptive force. Years of putting up the best numbers of any reciever in the league, countless trips to the playoffs, and nearly-if not for the kicker, a Superbowl. I’m not trying to defend the guy totally, because he has made some not so bright comments in the past, BUT I do not ever remember him attacking his teammates, questioning their sexuality, or writing negative things about his teammates in a book. Things that really tear a team apart. Yes, the mooning in Green Bay was kinda foul, yes walking off the field when the game was still on, yes saying outloud that he didn’t give 100% everyplay, was dumb. But I believe alot of critics are being hypocritical if they’ve never done anything dumb before, even in playing team sports. I really get tired and don’t want to hear the lamest cliche in the world, “well, they get paid millions, they’re supposed to do this and that” Says who? You, because you don’t make that kind of money? Where or where did people get the notion that people’s morals IMPROVE with money? I’ll never figure that out. If anything, that money will affect evey last person reading this and ever critic out there in a way where you will feel like you can really do what you want even more because of the money. They don’t say the root of all evil is money for nothing people. So puh-lease stop with that, ‘cause no matter what money you make, you’re still human. I’m pretty sure Moss made mistakes before the dough as have we all, broke or not. What I’m saying is maybe, put in a likable situation, MAYBE the guy could flourish. There’s alot of people who never amounted to anything because of the enviroment they were in. ALOT! Just don’t be so stringent in the rules you apply on others when you know you don’t follow them yourself. “He’s a cancer!” He’s trouble everywhere he goes!” “I wouldn’t want him.” And not one of you, including me have even met the guy for yourself. You can NOT tell me that you’ve never run across a person that you’ve heard bad things about and then met and said “hey, this guy ain’t so bad…” Judge for yourself on more ways than the way t.v. and announcers and Sportscenter and ESPN and Sportstalk radio and Pardon the Interruption trains you to think. In short, “Follow the white rabbit.” You never know whats at the end of the hole until you go there yourself. Alot of you sound like re-ran-typical-response-voiceovers you’d hear in a bad B-movie, saying exactly what someone that watches too much telvision and soaks too much of it up. Sorry, but you do.

By Greedy

October 12, 2006 08:32 PM | Link to this

Vent king,i agree with you. I really was not trying to play race card honest abe but damn people deserve chances in this world.Moss would do well in this system. Why cant some one speak their mind either , i like straight up people and besides forget a race card this is atlanta where the glass ceiling is being shattered all the time. The bottom line is , we all agree that moss has said some stupid stuff who hasn’t, i mean hell abe you said some stupid stuff, but by saying TO is a better teamate or a better cancer or a gamer as you put it,thats just crazy. Moss has the better track record as a teamate. Look at the blessing New england would have lossed if they would have listened to everyone about corey dillons attitude. hmmmmmmmmm

By bigbelly

October 12, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

I feel you Vent King. A lot of people breaking their necks jumping over each other to see who can be the most indignant. Randy Moss is a .50 caliber round stuck on a .22 caliber team. If he went to the Falcons, all the hypocrites would be salivating over the potential he would bring to the offense. If you worked for a company where everyone around you was incompetent, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be so motivated at your job, I don’t care how much money you made.

By Mike Fowler

October 12, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this

Just what could be done to stop our offense with Moss on the field…Vick, Crumpler, Dunn…Norwood! Imagine Lielie runnibg down one side of the field and Moss on the other. Talk about a defense having to “pick your poison!” Make the trade, bring MOSS in!

By Greedy

October 12, 2006 09:34 PM | Link to this

One could only imagine how explosive we could be with Moss. Moss is a wr that goes and gets the ball. Lelie is the only WR that we have that goes and gets the ball.If we wait on tradeing schaub , we will not get the type of value that we need for him. We passed on our chance last time for Moss and look where we are today regarding our WR. Moss is willing restructure his contract and everything to get out of Oakland. We could get a number one and moss. That could be the top pick in the draft next year, now that value. Mr Blank bring him here please, cut him in 3 years if does not work out.But i know it would , vick is a vertical passer!!! I love my falcons , we will destroy the giants if our defense plays ball like we know they can!

By singletary

October 12, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this

Please tell me a Moss trade is NOT under consideration except maybe for Roddy White. and a draft pick. He doesn’t strike me as the brainy athlete we typically draft. Lelie is amazing, Jenkins is growing, and we just need to find a way for McCrary and Griffith to be our Red Zone punchers or extra blockers. (Have you seen the Redskins split back crossing play that seems to confound defenses? Okay, it’s their ONLY one that worked on the Giants a couple of times!)

I don’t think Moss is in the same delusional state/emotional vortex as TO, and I hope he is redeemable like the former Me-Shawn Johnson who is doing well in Carolina. But, he is not a to-die for trade.

Having read some of the NYT and NYPost etc reports on how they are practicing for us, i.e. Tyree and a wide receiver pretending to be MV7, I think they are taking this game very seriously because of our players, including “You Can’t be Jerious” Norwood.

Go Birds!

By chichi

October 12, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this

I think Hartwell would make our defense better but we need to work him in slowly i think he just had a run of bad luck i really do think it would beef up the middle of the D

By Najeh Davenpoop

October 13, 2006 06:03 AM | Link to this

We better get off to a good start in this game — Eli Manning tends to get better as the game goes along, if we fall behind early it may be hard to catch up. It’s gonna be hard fooling their defensive ends with that option run thing, since they have 2 of the best DEs in the league, and their run defense is one of the better ones in the NFL — I would rather see us run it up the middle more often early in the game and then work the option in later. We don’t really have a cover corner who can match Plaxico Burress’s height, it’s not gonna be an easy matchup for Deangelo Hall especially near the end zone. I’m guessing we are gonna be playing a lot of zone as a result, but hopefully Ed Donatell is not afraid to bring the blitz anyway. Even if we have Abraham, we gotta blitz every once in a while to create pressure against Eli Manning.

Moss is not like T.O. — in fact they are almost exact opposites. T.O. thinks he can win the game by himself and gets p** off that players around him don’t let him win it by himself, whereas Moss really could care less whether the team wins or loses. In other words, T.O. more actively hurts a clubhouse than Moss. I think Moss will have fun playing with Vick and will put in enough effort to where acquiring him would be worth it.

Daunte Culpepper probably cries himself to sleep every night wondering why he can’t be Randy Moss’s teammate anymore — look at his stats with Moss and without Moss if you don’t believe me.

By Stewart

October 13, 2006 06:56 AM | Link to this

No good receiver in the NFL wants to come to Atlanta. We are graveyard for first round draft choices at the wideout position. Why? We run the ball, and Vick’s not an accurate passer. Plaxico Burress will have at least 6 receptions for 100 yards. Our top receiver will have 3 catches for maybe 50 yards. Who’s going to the Pro Bowl? We will win the game, but Moss cares more about me, than team. Don’t do it.

By Nikki

October 13, 2006 07:38 AM | Link to this

I agree that pressure on the QB will be the key to this game. I hope to see more of Norwood in this game as well. It’s a shame that this guy is far more talented than Reggie Bush yet he gets minimal time to show it on the field. Bush ran behind atop tier OL @ USC. Norwood had himself and no one else @ Miss. State. Norwood has already shown flashes of greatness in the tiny spots that he’s given to play.

By chris

October 13, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

You guys that are asking for Moss are out of your minds. In order to get a Moss on your team you probably will have to trade a #1 or #2 draft pick. Hes not worth it. To many issues. I remember when bloggers were saying “bring in T.O. Now look at what hes doing in Dallas.

The Falcons have a good team and they have to build for the future and not trade away more draft picks. Next year they can pick up a safty, tigh end, and offensive linemen which would put them in great standings for years to come.

By lee sunset

October 13, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

Latest update on TJ Duckett in D.C.:

The Redskins traded the equivalent of a third-round pick — the exact compensation will be determined after the season — to get Duckett from Atlanta, a move that smacked of panic because Portis had just gone down with a shoulder injury during preseason.

But Portis already had a backup, Ladell Betts. Even when Portis missed a game, Duckett was able to get only five carries for 24 yards. Otherwise, he hasn’t played.

Gibbs keeps saying how badly he feels for the five-year veteran, but the coach said the trade was worth the price.

“That question wouldn’t have been asked of me if Clinton had been out three straight games,” Gibbs said. “Everyone would say, ‘You fumbled that one, didn’t you?’

By br

October 13, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

Ah yes, another “the SEC is better than USC” rant…nice going Nikki! Here’s a clue for you: there IS football played in other places than the south, GET A CLUE!

By tito

October 13, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Oh my god bring in Moss right away imagine lelie on one end and Moss on the other incredible, make the trade before is to late but just dont trade in for shuab but if its that bad do it. Mark my words, he will be a factor.

By Paul Hamilton

October 13, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

What are you people talking about. Randy Moss only has like 12 receptions for barely over 100 yards through four games. Yeah thats what we need to trade our insurance plan in case vick gets hurt. That is stupid!!!!!!!! I love Shockley, but he has a LONG way to go.

By Hasavior

October 13, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Despite what Moss has done this far in yardage and receptions, that is relative to the system he is currently playing in. If Moss was to come to ATL, his numbers would probably remain the same, but each catch would be pivital to winning games. Mora will definitely check his pass blocking ability and technique. That is foremost, if not, then move on and deal with what you have as of now. Finneran will be back next year, then you will have a logjam at WR and no regular use for them since passing is a distant second for a running NFL team. You cant give up another tight end, due to the run block scheme, so one of the recievers will have to be traded or waived.

I think Terrell would have been a good match, beacuse he would have to humble himself to play with the Falcons. He would have know up front that this is a running offense and passing is second. Pass and corner block, and less than 5 rec max 7 attempts of passing per game to him.

See its all within the system you play in that makes good. One blogger mentioned moments ago about Culpepper in Miami not producint the passing yards he did at the Vickings. Of course he had 2-3 prime recievers to throw to each and every down. Moss deep slants and bombs opened up the middle field for the other recieivers. that is the system they had in place. Miami do not have that personell in place nor the system to mimic those numbers. The Qb that is now in for Miami is throwing 10 yard out slants and flats shots. Very minimal moderate to long passes.

The Falcons give up those numbers in the passing game like 250 -300 because of the cover 2 zone that allow Qbs to throw underneath the zone, no touch downs, perhaps a field goal. Stop the run as always, shut teams out and win the game. simple.

By honest_abe

October 13, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

wow, so most of you would trade for a guy that takes off on some plays.. leaves the sideline before the game is even over… and openly says he doens’t care? this discussion is stupid considering the raider’s have received ZERO interest from NFL gm’s.. that should tell you something… it’s not always about talent in sports folks… instead, it’s a combination of talent, worth ethic, and most importantly desire to be the best at what you do..

back to this week’s game, i really think the giants are going to focus on stopping the run and stuff the box and try to force vick to pass… the giants have a pretty decent front 7 but their secondary has been abominable… the birds have to get crump involved early… as well lelie ..and take some shots down the field early… on defense, donatell has to bring pressure. if abe plays heavy blitzing might not be necessary..but i think we can all agree that if given time eli will shred us apart… those receivers for the gmen are too tall… this matchup presents some serious problems but i think the birds d is up to the challenge… this is must game considering the next two opponents and this being a conference game… GO FALCONS!

By D-Man

October 13, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Hey people get a grip if we had 5 of the best WR here in Atlanta it still wouldn’t solve our RedZone issues. We still have to find ways to formulate plans for scoring inside the 20 yard line, which is Greg Knapps job and until he gets a grip our offense will suffer the touchdown blow.

I think over all we will still do fine because of our athletes but I think we do need some offense intervention from Bill Musgrave in company with new plays thats geared for Vick, Dunn, Norwood, Lelie, Crumpler, Shaub, and Jenkins. We need to find a way to get them all envolved each week!!

By Hasavior

October 13, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

Honest_babe, Moss is not the first player to walk off the field or have issues on the sideline. Many of players have they hangups, yet the media key on certain players to exploit and tell the public i told you you so about this black athlete. Carlina Pathers linebacker 3 years ago ithink hemmed up a linebacker coach on the sideline by the lapel very vigorously, that was downtoned to just a verbal dispute, but latrell sprewell at the same time period, had his black skin on national television for 3 months. Phil Simms had his gripes, Young from 49ers, had verbals with his coach. So, honest-babe, please -dont be selective in your conversation.

These are grown men in this league from management to contracted athletes they make their peace and move on. its the media that creates the tailspin.

As far as Eli tearing us apart, i dont think so. this was said about Brew Breese, and Qb from Carolina -nada. He will have his stats numbers like 250 -300. but the likelihood of him hitting the endzone on passing is very minimal. Eli is at this point overratted. his WRs have to go get those balls. He is very inaccurate on the move. Flat footed when he runs, no leverage - his WRs will give him a pass as a honorable mention if critics get of his nuts and see his WRs making plays out of mediocre throws.

By D-Man

October 13, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Hey honest_abe, I think your a smart guy when it comes to sports but man…..please, you nor I don’t know Moss personally just tabloids of what he’s done or doing but its always two sides to the truth, yes some stuff he does is unethical but MANN, he maybe one of the most down to earth people you would know so please decifer some of the things you read and hear about people, this isn’t his first year in the league and I understand where you come from saying that when things aren’t going right he bails but I would feel the same, I might not act the same as he did but I would have an early since of all is lost in Oakland. Even David Carr vented at his team last year but it wasn’t made public last year, the media AIMS at specific players for reasons to deteriorate there class and it shows. Every bad team has ventors, even Jerry Rice vented for San Fran when playoff chances became numbered. So lets give these players a chance believe me if you were in the spot light of the camera for a couple of seconds and all the public had was a couple of seconds to build an opinion about you I am sure in a lot of situations you yourself would not come off good to everyone only some, hopefully that some is the majority.

By Hasavior

October 13, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Schaub will not be in the picture of this line up. he will mostlikey not be here next year. Unless he is traded by this deadline. He is nice, but we need to back of that notion in respect to Vick. he is the person in place regardless of out imaginary intent. Deal with it.

By honest_abe

October 13, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

hasavior… thanks for the cute nickname you fruity punk… people that constantly play the race card are not only annoying but extremely ignorant as well. first off all my dislike for moss like i stated earlier has nothing to do with his color… so stop trying to make some irrelevant comparison between some high profile white players and moss. you look dumb in doing so.. people who are constantly trying to defend moss.. have a hard time accepting reality. i guess for you it’s always the great black misunderstood athlete vs the great white devil.. please man… he’s been a little punk every he has been. when the whole league knows he’s on the block yet nobody shows a bit of interest what does that tell you? i could care less if some people had some arguments on the sideline.. i defend TO all the time… arguments happen during the heat of battle, that is inevitable when you have these great athletes all jacked up…

but quitting and saying you don’t care is just inexcusable…

ha savior i thought about continuing this discussion with you… but you’re a lame apologist… some people refuse to see a bad apple when there is one…and instead just see things in black and white… dude we’re moved past the 1960’s.. so please drop that weak us vs them crap.. i’m asian..i grew up with racist remarks directed towards me from both whites and blacks.. i don’t use that stuff as a crutch… racism exists…live with it.. blacks are just as freaking racist as white… as are asians, latinos…etc..that’s reality.. but not every issue in sports has to do with keepin the black man down.

i will end with this…which might weaken my argument..but i found it humorous how when TO was yelling at teammate’s he was labeled by the media as a destructive force… then when i saw strahan yelling at his teammates the announcers mentioned how he is such a great leader… some players are vilified by the media… and in TO’s case i really believe he gets the short end of the stick… as for moss… he’s a wasted talent…

By Hasavior

October 13, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

Honest _babe, i respect what you say. yet of course we dont know each other well. One thing i must say is that i am not an apologist, the race card i mention when its blatent in its attempt. when its apparent, i keep it liberal and keep my peace with it. That punk comment, i will let that slide, you were speaking out of your frustration and i can understand that and you should remind youself as well when the camera is on Moss when he is venting infrustration. Of course you and i are not on his dimension as far as noteriety, but we do understand the dynamics. We can go on and on about the cyclic form of racism and who started and ended it, based upon my ethnicity and all that. i’ve learned to pick my battles and my comments especially those who are over sensitive with the issue.

I like Moss and Terrell, they both have qualities that are good and effective, yet their abilites differ. You and i differ due to your outlook about Moss vs. mine. Should your experience with racism be more valid than mine due to the cloth you been cut from? Did not think so! So calm your nerves and pick your battles. this nothing to loose your wig over!

By honest_abe

October 13, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

indeed…my apologies… caffeine can make people crazy!

By chris

October 13, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Its amazing how people would want to bring in a 2 receivers that have messed every team they have played on up. Do you think that Moss or Owens will not get upset and complain because Vick cannot get the the ball?

The Falcons team is drama free bringing in Moss or TO will cause problems with the whole team. Its not a wise business move or sports move.

By mo

October 13, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

The Moss for Schaub trade would be a disaster. We don’t need him. He’s a great athlete, but we have Lelie, thank you very much.

Also, Michael Jenkins is developing into a big-play receiver. With Lelie on one side and Jenkins on the other, we should have the down-field thing covered.

What we need is a clutch receiver. I never thought that we would need Finneran so badly, but we need Finneran badly… or trade for a “Finneran-type” receiver. I mean, we need a methodical, clutch receiver that runs good routes and just catches the ball to move the chains. Plus, we need him to be able to get separation and make plays in the red zone.

Roddy White is supposed to be that receiver, but he isn’t. He has the skills, but he simply doesn’t make plays. He needs to make a play, period.

“Big-time players make big plays on big days.”

So, to trade Roddy White you would need to trade him for a clutch, proven receiver that can get open and make a play. Someone who would catch a ball up the middle and get drilled, stand up, spike the ball, walk off the fiel talking trash, and collapse on the sidelines. Finneran used to do that all the time. And I miss him so bad.

By blaknred

October 13, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Sticking to the subject, I think the Falcons will play alot of “keep’em in front of ya” defense. Although I’m not a fan of it, it seems to work. I just believe, to get to a Super Bowl, we should take more risk and blitz a bit more. I’d hope J. Williams is progressing (to replace webster) so that we can afford to leave at least one corner on an island (probably D Hall) and put a safety in the box to intensify the pressure on the QB and OL. This “bend-but-don’t-break” defense will not suffice against the top notch teams. With that said, Falcons win Sunday 24-17. We’ll force at least one turnover.

By Andy

October 13, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

A—Moss does not rub block—no way the falcons will take him

B—He counts 7 million toward the cap. Enough said about that.

Whoever said no WR wants to play for the falcons—BOTH TO and MOSS said they hoped they would be traded to Atlanta to play with Vick

I would love to trade for moss if we didn’t already have LeLee(sp)—the falcons will probaly work out an extention for him during this season—if the falcons do I love this trade(TJ). I hope the falcons trade Matt S. to detroit or Oakland for a 1st round pick—we got him in the 3rd round I believe. I know the falcons want to play it safe and keep Matt S. in just in case Vick does go down—and there is a really good chance he will—but for the future of the falcons I hope they do let him go to perferably a AFC team because he’s going to be great.

As far as the just released troy vicent I hope the falcons pick up the d line man the Cheifs let go of. He is a grady Jackson type player who could spell relief for Rod coleman on 1st or 2nd down sometimes. Could you imagine grady and him clogging up the 4 front blockers—the sacks would be incredible. I doubt the falcons would mess with the d-line at all it is doing so well. Just a dream I would like. Yeah I think Troy V. would be a good pick up— But I already think that if one of the safties go down they would use Boley for that—I think, I could be wrong. BIG game this weekend—remember the last big game in NO—I am very scared the falcons could get their butts handed to them—esp if they play the same way in the red zone—-I believe the falcons can win—I also fear the teams weakness—-IF the falcons can beat the giants AND Steelers at home—and put a great game up at the bengals—-I hope they win—-but if the falcons lose by three or less and play I great game then I feel the falcons can say they are a top 5 team. 1st step is the giants—god bless us and go falcons.

By Smitty

October 13, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

I agree Mo….Finneran is badly missed…lets hope that during the bye week White worked on making catches and surprises everyone sunday by at least making a couple….GO FALCONS

By beatem

October 14, 2006 12:33 AM | Link to this

why bring moss in vick cannot throw the ball anyway

By Keeping it real !!!

October 14, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

Next Year Please draft some offense linemen that can pass block . If we are going to keep this scheme let’s have two sets of offense linemen run and passing . The Gibb thing works only in run mode! Pray please Lord Help Greg Knapp to Be come a Teaching Coach or just a coach! Dontell pressure will bust a pipe. So Keep putting pressure on Little Manning.

By David

October 18, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

I agree that the Falcons miss Finneran, but don’t hype Finneran as this great NFL player on our roster. Don’t ever forget that Finneran got cut by Andy Reid, head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, who is a much better evaluator of talent than Mora ever will be. The reason why Finneran got cut is because he used to drop almost every pass that was thrown in his direction. In Finneran’s first couple of seasons, when Dan Reeves was here, Finneran dropped so many passes that I thought he would get cut back then. I am not impressed in the least with Finneran. What the Falcons need on their team as a wide receiver is either T-O or Moss. Then you would have someone who is reliable to catch the football on Sunday. Crumpler used to be great, but when he got his deal done in the offseason, that is apparently all he ever cared about was how much money he could stockpile. I would cut Crumpler right now if I was the general manager of the Falcons—he gives you absolutely nothing at tightend. Moss or T-O would be the solution with Matt Schaub at the helm. That is a formula for success.

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