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Price’s replacement

With Peerless Price gone, the Falcons are in need of a fifth wide receiver. Coach Jim Mora said the team is not looking for someone to come in and jump into the top rotation, but they are more interested in a stand-by guy who can play some special teams and would be available in case of an emergency.

By taking that approach, do you think the Falcons should even bother going outside of their roster to acquire a player who will have to learn the system? Or should they stick with the familiar and give Cole Magner, Brian Bratton, Romby Bryant or Will Pettis a shot?

Also, though Roddy White is expected back by the season opener, do you think the Falcons have enough reliable depth at wide receiver?

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By Pete

August 31, 2005 04:29 PM | Link to this

Hello Sunshine!!!

By jeff

August 31, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

Our depth and inexperience at WR was the reason I was skeptical about getting rid of Price. As bad as he was, what are our other options? Had Roddy been in camp on time and didn’t get injured, I’d feel a bit more comfortable. But right now, we don’t know what we’re getting out of Jenkins and Roddy, Dez White and Finneran are second options at best, and we have a bunch of unsigned free agents. I think if Mora and Co, suspected that Price wouldn’t be here, we should have searched for a veteran WR (Musin Muhammad, Derek Mason) instead of going into camp with MORE questions at the postion than we had during the NFC championship game. Even with the drafting of Roddy White, rookie receivers usually won’t make an impact their first year in the league. They just don’t. I agree that Price underachieved. But don’t release him unless you have a comparable or better alternative. One preseason game against Jacksonville doesn’t qualify Jenkins as a replacement in my opinion. Given Mora’s comments about Price competing for a spot, it leads me to believe that they knew their was a decent chance he wouldn’t make the team. Knowing that, the team should have come up with a better alternative than a rookie in the draft. That’s just the way it is…

By Carl

August 31, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this

Peter Warrick

By John English

August 31, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this

2nd guessing a coach or GM is the major reasons newspapers and magazines sell, but the cutting of Price coupled with the article on Blanks admitting he errored in signing him is really belittling the true Falcons fan!

Let me state that I too like Mr. Blanks and Coach Mora as well as Mr. Makay… But the simple fact of the matter is they blew it in two facets here…

1 They shouldn’t have brought Price to Camp if they knew they were strong on lettting him go (this action seems like they wanted him to be a problem or a Bust)if he seemed disgruntled, However he was the model warrior they tell us… 2 The stated that he was a Blocker and didn’t produce as a primary receiver…

From what I saw of the Falcons the play calling on pass plays left a lots to be desired in the passing arena… not knock Vick, but his knowledge of the so called west coast offense last year didn’t allow him to click with him entire receiver corp, as the majority of his big passing plays went to crumpler as a check down option!

Someone please tell me if you ran a business and you fired an employee, wouldn’t you at least have a viable replacement trained to open the store in the morning!

Remember our first customer is Philly and although they don’t shop at home depot, they do own a ton a hardware!

By Keith

August 31, 2005 05:03 PM | Link to this

Peter Warrick!!!!!!!

By DBOY

August 31, 2005 05:11 PM | Link to this

Peter is going to Seattle!

By jeff

August 31, 2005 05:17 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I don’t think your wrong for second guessing, John. It just didn’t make sense. I don’t think anyone in the WR corp did anything to significantly improve the position, nor do I feel that Mora and Co was wise to wait this long to make this decision. We struggled mightly in the passing game against Tampa, Philly, Detroit, and a few other team. Yes, I believe that Vick will improve in the passing game. Being objective, this is only his 2nd year in this offense. There is a learning curve. And regardless of how anyone feels about him, he deserves to get the same time to develop that Steve Young, McNabb and other had before they flourish. That’s the nature of the West Coast. But the O-line and the WR were two postions that needed attention. How can any quarterback feel comfortable in the pocket if he doesn’t have any pass protection? The O line is solid in the run. Put I’ve seen it were Vick felt the heat time the ball was snapped to him. As for the receivers, the main reason I felt that Peerless should have stayed THIS YEAR was to provide Roddy White the time to develop to fill his roll. And if Mora and Co. suspected that they might cut him, than other veteren should have been brought in and Peerless should have been cut months ago. After attending the minicamps and watching preseason games, I don’t see that we’ve improved that much from the NFC Championship game. Would Peerless take us over the top? Heck no. But his cut was not an addition by subtraction. It decreased the depth in an already week WR corp. As for Sunshine, I think he’ll help a little. But in the NFL, success stories like that are few and fair in between.

By John B

August 31, 2005 05:40 PM | Link to this

Okay guys lets all take a deep breath and relax…I to was against releasing Price but what is done is done and I’m not second guessing the braintrust at this point.I personally thought it was very up front for Mr.Blank to admit he made a mistake with Price. I never heard Smith&Co. make such an admission…OH YEAH they never signed any big time, big dollar free agents they chose to bungle along making lousy draft picks! Idon’t think “Peter” is the answer either as he was over hyped coming out and has never really developed into the go to guy. Much like Price his work ethic and desire has been called into question as well as his toughness…cutting one problem to take on another is not the answer. I believe the best thing to do is let Mackay and Mora decide what is best and support our team! Price didn’t demand any double teams last year so who’s to say a young hungry guy can’t step up and be the man.Vicks favorite target Crumpler is still one of the leagues best and Dunn is excellent coming out of the backfield.With Vick at QB the safetys have to respect his run ability so vertically stretching the defense should be easier as all the guys become more acclimated to the offense.I say we go with what we got and see where it goes…

By bernard poole

August 31, 2005 07:40 PM | Link to this

koren robinson

By Matthew

August 31, 2005 08:09 PM | Link to this

Bernard, we need someone to catch passes, not drop them.

Look, this is how it is going to be.

Jenk and Finn will open as the starting recievers.

These guys GET open on occasion. The also are willing to block in the running game in order to spring Warrick and Vick for long runs. These two things, Worthless was unwilling to do.

Y’all have to have patience. 5 years. That’s what it takes for EVERYTHING to come together. It gets better this year, and better than this year next year, and so on.

I will keep on reminding y’all, in his first four years in the offense, Donovan had a 56% completion percentage. Vick’s completion percentage last year? 56%.

PATIENCE.

We didn’t get rid of Worthless Price for not catching enough passes or touchdowns.

We got rid of him for the same reasons why I dubbed him Worthless.

His lack of heart, effort, and desire in the way he practiced and played. Look, you can have a guy like Troy Brown on your team, who gives maximum effort everytime out, but isn’t going to put up spectacular numbers. But you have him because he’s a great example for everyone else.

Price is a great example of how not to be. But unfortunately, young players will usually look at someone like him, and went to immatate him, instead of deriding him. It’s human nature to not want to work hard. So the coaches did what they had to do. Got rid of a malconted loafer.

REMEMBER… this guy and his agent INVENTED, or LIED about, an injury to his eye to try and cover up and explain away his lacksadasical play.

Now, with that all said, he’ll probably go to the Eagles, though, with their current problems, they may not want another malcontent on their team. The one they have, say what you will about him, would never loaf, so why would they want to pick up a noted loafer?

But, if he goes to a team like Philly, with a true number 1 reciever, he should put up some decent numbers. Then we’ll have to hear from the uneducated in these blogs saying I told you so, that he wasn’t al that bad. Well, we’ve been saying that he would do well as a No. 2 with a true No. 1 to play off of.

So, to sum up… Cole Magner, muffed punt or not, crappy block in the back penalty or not, welcome the the Atlanta Falcons special teams! D your job, block well, play hard, practice hard, and you could be the new Brian Finneran for this team.

As for Worthless, him not being on this team anymore… PRICELESS.

By Keith Glock

August 31, 2005 09:05 PM | Link to this

Steve,

I think there will be enough depth if everything is not smoke and mirrors and Vick actually has progressed in the modified WCO.

On a side note, I am also a sports writer. I cover the Phillies and Trenton Thunder for the Trenton Times in NJ. I think having interaction with those guys on a semi-daily basis, I have a better handle than most of the public on those teams based on conversations I have on the side with players etc. When I read these blogs, I want some inside info! Give us some stuff you don’t write about in the paper. I trust your opinion. Give us what YOU think. While I like reading what other people think, I want to hear what you, who are in contact with these guys on an everyday basis, think. Winklejohn did that constantly. I like your writing a lot. Just let your hair down and give us some stuff man!

—Keith

By Aleda

August 31, 2005 09:55 PM | Link to this

SUNSHINE ON MY SHOULDERS, MAKES ME HAPPY!!!

COLE MAGNER IS A KEEPER.

NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Falcons Fan

August 31, 2005 10:02 PM | Link to this

Two words:

COLE MAGNER!!!!!!!!

By dan

August 31, 2005 10:15 PM | Link to this

here’s an idea, let’s just call up calvin johnson…

By Falconsbeliever

August 31, 2005 10:55 PM | Link to this

Well, Peerless is gone. He was our best WR. As such, I don’t think releasing him was a good move. He’ll go somewhere else and have much success (probably Philly).

Despite what some may say, he wasn’t lazy and ran decent routes. This is evidenced by his production in Buffalo.

Sure, he played opposite a true #1 in Moulds, but he put up good numbers and you can’t deny that. No WR who runs lazy routes and is unmotivated would put up such numbers just because he plays opposite a true #1 (see Lee Evans, Josh Reed and Todd Pinkston, who by all accounts do not possess such qualities).

That said, I don’t think we are any better, or worse, off without Peerless. The success of our passing game hinges on Vick learning to read defenses and learning that WRs don’t have to be WIDE open to be open. Even Tom Brady said Vick seems to wait on WRs to get WIDE open. Getting wide open rarely happens in the NFL.

The sooner Vick learns this, the sooner we’ll have a WR post #1 WR numbers. Hopefully, someone will be that guy this year.

By Andy

August 31, 2005 11:14 PM | Link to this

Notes…Peter Warrick signed a decent deal with Seattle…Mort said in his chat on ESPN today that Peerless will most likely look to join Dallas to be with Drew again (funny, he would be a No. 2 WR again as Keyshawn is the No. 1 guy)

Story about Thompson was alarming. I remember reading an article about his upbring, but man….

On Monday, the ‘Don’t Blame’ show is about the Falcons. It is ‘Don’t blame the Atlanta Falcons for trading Brett Farve’. Should be good.

By Jackie

September 1, 2005 12:52 AM | Link to this

It is really hard to catch the ball when it is not thrown to you. Peerless Price is a very good NFL receiver where the quarterback is still learning and the offense is not geared to take advantage of his best qualities. Crumpler has been Vick’s major target. When Vick learns to go to the secondary receiver and read the progression tree, he will be really amazing. To release Peerless Price was a mistake.

By Benjason

September 1, 2005 02:27 AM | Link to this

As I just read, Dan Reeves said it was not his decision to acquire Peerless Price because Arthur Blank was paying too much! So much for th wisdom of our former coach. Dan Reeves may be an excellent GM one day, and he called that on right, but was Arthur Blank’s process flawed? He may have paid too much for Peerless Price and others, but as they say, “You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet!” Arthur Blank may have paid too much for a lot of players, but you had to do something to get players, especially good players to want to come to Atlanta and be a part of the Falcons. Blank may have cracked a rotten egg with Price, but so far his omelet is delicious. A while ago the Falcons couldn’t get a Monday night game and personally I don’t care if the Falcons play on Monday night ever again because of the past snubbs. But the moves Arthur Blank has made have been great for the team and the city and as we all know number “7” is known around the world. So Dan Reeves wasn’t too far off course, Peerless Price didn’t work out and good luck to him in his future endeavors, but Arthur Blank has put the spark back into Atlanta football. He took a gamble and lost on Peerless, but so far Arthur Blank, the Falcons and the ATL are big winners. I thought I would never see the Falcons in the Super Bowl and I did. Keep up the good work AB, keep making it happen and “Let’s do it again!” GO FALCONS!

By falcons fan

September 1, 2005 02:43 AM | Link to this

I guess this Matthew guy will be signing his nfl coaching contract anytime now with his having so much more knowledge than everybody else.

By Matt

September 1, 2005 04:31 AM | Link to this

Michael Vick?

By Bubba

September 1, 2005 07:18 AM | Link to this

Who will be this year’s scapegoat for Michael Vick when he can’t get the ball to a WR????? I bet you will see Mr. Price be pretty productive with his new team.

By BC

September 1, 2005 08:18 AM | Link to this

I’m from Atlanta and attended BGSU -Ohio. I told everyone about Magner and they all laughed. Not any more. We watched him school Nebraska last year and Ohio State the year before. My guess is that he will sneak in several catches against the Eagles! Check out the BGSU roster - all from Hotlanta. Down with Wisconsin!

By Jeff

September 1, 2005 08:35 AM | Link to this

Cole Magner is your man. He is solid, not flashy. He can play special teams, good hands and he stay healthy. He doesn’t really have speed or size, just the ability to be open and hold onto the ball. I live in Bowling Green and have watched Cole for awhile.

By Brian

September 1, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this

I don’t know much about Cole Manger… but from what I’ve heard he seems to be a pretty viable special teams option and may get some time on the offense if need be… Has Koren Robinson gotten out of rehab yet???

By Swatguy

September 1, 2005 09:01 AM | Link to this

It seems the braintrust was waiting for Peerless to fall on his face during training camp, but he didn’t. The excuses given did not warrant waiving Peerless. Apparently the decision was made months ago. By waiving Peerless now instead of months ago is shameful and regretable. This is why players holdout and maximize all leverage the player has. I hope Mora leans to be a Standup Coach in his personnel endeavors. This waive was not Standup.

By Chambers

September 1, 2005 09:29 AM | Link to this

Who cares who the reciever is…Peerless, Dez, my cousin Vinny, WE DONT THROW THE BALL DOWNFIELD!!!! We did fine without a passing game last year and we will be fine this year.

I’m just glad this team is finally relevant enough to argue about…

By SB

September 1, 2005 09:57 AM | Link to this

Price was overrated. But the passing game will be alot different this year as Vick will have a number of more plays and audibles he’ll have access to. Last year, they probably only introduced about 25% of passing plays that could be used from the offense they use because of Vicks inexperience. The Falcons can now implement the next phase of this offense. I’m sure we’ll see many more short, over the middle crossing routes that will be called, which will allow Vick to spread it out some and make the deep ball a bigger threat.

By mark

September 1, 2005 10:06 AM | Link to this

I want to thank the whole FALCONS organization for taking Peerless off our hands. Maybe the buffalo fans should send a fruit basket to blank for x-mas. Once again thanks!

By Luis

September 1, 2005 10:18 AM | Link to this

Actually, the Falcons have already been throwing downfield this preseason. Have you not watched any games?

By Quillian Banks

September 1, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this

Just to throw another name in the mix - Hines Ward who deal in Pittsburg may not happen. Why not select some home grown proven talent that can be a number one receiver that can get up and down the field. Just a thought! Although I was happy to see Peerless go I would have to agree with most of the fans here in saying that it was a little absurd to even bring Peerless back to camp if you knew up front that you were going to cut him anyway because you over paid him. No matter how much he underachieved that is bad business. Then you wonder why he said what he did after being cut.

By demahl

September 1, 2005 10:28 AM | Link to this

I think we should rid the Eagles of their trouble and go after TO! We have the money, he hates McNabb, we need the talent, and he lives here already! Plus, we need a physical receiver not another post route runner! Am I lying?

By SB

September 1, 2005 10:33 AM | Link to this

Hines Ward would be a true asset to our team. Not only is he a threat, but one of the NFL’s best blocking receivers - which you don’t see too often. Would love to have him here.

By Quillian

September 1, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

TO would be a great help but are we ready to deal with the attitude. You have to look at the pros and the cons that come with an acquisition like TO. He is a fast and strong/physical receiver and would definitely help the falcons and the other receivers.

By Calvin

September 1, 2005 10:44 AM | Link to this

Being a true Grady baby Falcons fan who spent many losing years at the Fulton county stadium watching Steve running the show, I welcomed and trust the fresh and brilliant ideals Mr. Blank is bringing to the table. He hasn’t failed us yet, and I still hear complaining. Vick and crew will not only do well this season, but take us to the Super Bowl. And yes, I have big money backing that statement. As usually, you fare weather fans speak negative until we’re winning and then religiouly, act as if those words never came out your mouth. Last year the media and you transplanted fans swore that Mike Vick wasn’t ready to run the west coast offense and that they would win no more than 5 games. You couldn’t find one person on earth to admit he/she said it. When the Falcons upsetted Greenbay in the playoff, 98% of the world said that the Falcons didn’t have a chance…Let me go on record to say that the Falcons will start off 4 and 0. Go on and dispute me now. You’ll be the first liars to say I knew the Falcons would do it. We have some very talentive receivers on the the team that will make you very proud of being a Falcons fan. Give them this opportunity and later own you won’t look stupid. I know who you are. You’re the fans with that surprise look on your face after every game. This year is the beggining of our dynasty. My brother Ronnie and I appaud the improvement and direction Jim and crew are taking the dirty birds. Somebody needs to hold on to this comment, because we will throw it in your face, starting with the Eagles. With T.O. A healthy T.O.

By Doriann

September 1, 2005 10:45 AM | Link to this

Hello people of sports i think that they should get Price back and ket some of those no good players go. the ones that don’t do nothing on the feild. instead they ket go on of the most important players that we have i dont feel that was fair. so get Price back and let the sorry playeres go.

By scotty

September 1, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

I like Dan’s idea. Seriously, there is too much dwelling on what coulda, woulda, shoulda. Today Price is gone, Warrick is unavailable and we got options on our current roster. Jenkins will be better this year. He has the size and speed to be the answer. He knows it too. It’s his opportunity to shine. Give the 2nd year guy a chance to catch some Mike Vick passes. You can’t expect a rookie to be a consistent ball catcher when you are in your first year in the league and the recipient of Vicks frozen ropes. We all know he throws bullets that can bounce off the pads of the best receivers in the game. Remember our quarterbacks arm now fellas. He can run but he also has a gun. Magner will probably be the 5th guy. He’s gut the skill and between D White, R White and Finneran we got as solid a receiver core as we ever had. I sometimes wish we had T Mathis back but even he couldnt stretch the field. #12 is the man, quit talkin about the past and watch this prosperous season unfold. As crazy as it may sound i figure no worse than 12-4 with an NFC championship with the squad we got now…any comments?

By Billy

September 1, 2005 11:01 AM | Link to this

Swat guy- come on- what a dumb statement. I am tempted to say what your statments really prove you to be. Suffice to say- it is not knowledgeable about the facts. LISTEN- Peerless was UNDER CONTRACT. The Falcons will still end up paying him more money than he deserves and more money than you and I will ever see. Being UNDER CONTRACT makes the Falcons owe him nothing. They had every right to bring him into camp and hope that he would prove himself worthy of the dollars they would be paying him. Furthermore, if you watched any of Mora’s interviews about Price (which you apparantly have not watched them nor read them) you will find that the Falcons could have waited until even later to cut Price and that really would have been perceived as putting the screws to him. This society of “somebody owes me something” is ridiculous and it is fueled by people like you who spout out unresearched comments. Yes, Price will be a successful #2 receiver with someone else. That still does not prove that he was a good fit here. He would not have been satisfied with that here (his ego could not have handeled it)as he was brought in to be more. The way it is now- since he has hit “bottom” he will relish the opportunity to go somewhere else, collect 40 catches, and have the new teams money as well as the whopping leftover money that the Falcons have to pay him. Trust me- in that respect he will have last laugh. HOWEVER- the move was brilliant of the Falcons- as they proved yet again to have something you don’t have (based on your comments) and that is foresight. Whether Peerless would have made his 40 catches with us is moot. He probably would have. However, this would have been a debate all year and certainly a conversation having to be constantly contended. The last thing the locker room of the Falcons needed was these type conversations about Peerless all year. Of which, would have once again provoked Peerless to be the crybaby that he proved to be. All we needed to see was Peerless do what he was brought here to do. Make catches. All these blogs about Vicks ability to get him the ball are also moot- because every honest person will admit the unfortunate memories of Peerless dropping many of those that were thrown at him. How did Crumpler become valuable to Vick? He caught his passes. Peerless had the same opportunity. (And Crump is why this whole WR conversation is not going to be the big deal everyone thinks… anyone remember Shannon Sharpe?) So get over it “swat guy” and those like him. Peerless’s release was about so much more that how many catches he would have made this year. It was about attitude, ability and the fact that just the continuing debate about Peerless would have put the “i” back in “team” where there is no such thing. See past the fluff- listen to Mora carefully and you will hear the real reasons behind the moves. If anything I think he (Mora) has proven himself to be very respectable and honest about the entire matter. Again- something he did not owe anyone- especially Peerless. Peerless owed the Falcons. He had a job- and did not do it. Anything Mora is NOT SAYING is just trying to not roll Price under the bus- a favor I bet we will all see Price will not return- once he signs with another team. Watch… his true character will come out… and “swat guy”, I and others will be on this blog to say we told you so.

By Billy

September 1, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

Dorrian, what public school system did you learn to spell in? I’m not shaming you- but if you can’t spell- don’t advertise it by blogging.

By scotty

September 1, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

Hey Bubba, what is it about Vick you don’t like? You dogged him out last blog too…Is it cuz he’s black? Do you wanna punt Perdue too? You need to go climb up the flag pole in your front yard, take down the confederate flag and get with the program. Or move to Athens. You gotta be a dawg fan. Nobody else would make as dumb a comment as the ones you make. Hunker down saturday and leave the pro football to the ones who know about it.

By Atlien

September 1, 2005 11:32 AM | Link to this

Come on people, give Mr. Price a break! All of the name calling (Worthless etc..) should be directed towards the Falcons management and not Peerless. He didn’t make the mistake when he signed the contract and we all would have done the same thing if we had the opportunity to provide financial security for our family. I’d laugh all the way to the bank!

By the way, anyone that knows anything about football know that he’s a great second receiver to have on your team for the right price if you have a true #1 (Eric Moulds, TO, etc…) therefore, if this guy ends up in Philly he will hurt the Falcons bad and with the way the Falcons handled the situation, I’d probably pull for him to succeed.

First of all, I agree with one of the comments above, it appears they were looking for a reason to cut him and the guy simply didn’t give them one. He competed after being demoted and did not disrupt the team. If another receiver would’ve actually taken advantage of the situation and elevated their game, I’d understand, but that hasn’t happened to date and with the regular season being right around the corner is simply too late to release him at this point. He could’ve atleast added more depth the the receiving corp and Sunshine (who I actually like) and one of the younger guys could’ve benefited more learning on the practice squad. If they were going to take this route they should’ve released him Jun 1st point blank!

By the way, why didn’t they draft Reggie Brown (home grown) anyway???? I’m not sold on Roddy White. He put up huge numbers against Div II talent….you guys will probably start disrespecting him with all of the name calling soon, but please keep your dignity and don’t take that route. Once again, he’s laughing all the way to the bank!

By Peter

September 1, 2005 11:32 AM | Link to this

Wow, I am astonished at the number of fans thinking we should have retained Price’s services. Have most of these fans watched the games the last couple of years??? Price was a receiver who would never layout for a catch, would not fight for a ball, and not hustle for a pass that might be a little long. Several times I see him give up on his route when he thinks it is a little too far. He also has a tendency to stand still when Vick is scrambling instead of trying to get open and provide Vick a target. Price only put up those great numbers for 1 year in Buffaloe and that was his contract year! Thank god the Falcons were smart enough to cut the deadweight. And for some of these fans, please watch the games before blogging.

By kemet

September 1, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

Well perhaps we shoulda traded or scrub for a loud mouth who help us sell a ticket stub. I figure we’ll get one good year outta Terrel Owens Right?

By Rickey

September 1, 2005 12:04 PM | Link to this

Bring back Andre “Badmoon” Rison. I am sure he needs the money.

By PB

September 1, 2005 12:25 PM | Link to this

Scotty, It may be because of his 76.9 rating over the last 4 years, barely completes a little over 53% of his passes, and is one of the most inconsistent QB’s in the NFL. He’s average at best at the position who compensates with his feet.

By Kathleen

September 1, 2005 12:48 PM | Link to this

From a womans point of view. First let me begin in saying that I didn’t feel that the wide receiver position was such a big deal being our quarter back (Vick) never had the protection from the O-line to get the ball to Price. Yes, Peerless drop some catches that I could have caught but for the most part I think it was the O-line in protecting Vick to get it out to the Wide Outs in a timely manner. Lets not forget the play calling, I’m no coach but my 14year old son has been playing since he was six years old, so I’m a big Falcons Fan and love football. Please somebody tell me about the play calling that cost us last season a few games. However, everybody please give Peerless a break and recognize that even the best receivers; Jerry Rice, T.O, Randy Moss etc., wouldn’t have as many passes thrown to them if it wasn’t for their teams offensive line giving their quarterbacks the opportunity to throw it. (meaning time).. We’re improving in the O-Line but we stil need a lot of work there. Was Peerless worth the money??? Heck to the no!!! like Whitney would say.

By Big Jim

September 1, 2005 01:15 PM | Link to this

For what it’s worth….I’ve watched Peerless Price his whole career, since I’m a dawg fan, and I’ve been to two Falcons’ preseason games. Getting rid of Price was not an option, but a necessity. At this point, until he figures out who he is, he’s not helping the Falcons. Price is a great sideline route/possession receiver, but does not have all the skills necessary to facilitate Michael Vick. Vick will never be the passer that Manning is (who Price caught in college), and Peerless doesn’t have the flat out speed to be the man. I hope he does well wherever he ends up, but he just didn’t fit with the Falcons.

Cole Magner is a great receiver, who reminds me an awful lot of Don Beebe. I’d love to see him get a shot.

By Jackie

September 1, 2005 01:44 PM | Link to this

The Falcons will win despite of Vick’s inexperience with the West Coast offense and his reluctance to throw the ball to a receiver that is not “wide open.” Keep in mind, Michael Vick came from a conservative offense in college and in Atlanta, he was not asked to throw the ball deep. Alex Gibbs will figure out a way with the O-line to give Vick a little more time and the Falcons will be in the hunt.

By LT

September 1, 2005 02:02 PM | Link to this

I hated Peerless. I mean maybe because his signing was so hyped at the time and being a 14 year old at the time i hadnt heard of him. I didnt like his name, i didn’t like his demeanor, or his skills. I love the Falcons and at the time i was still wearing my Jamal Anderson and this guy that played behind Eric Moulds!!!!! just didnt seem like the correct canditate to expand Vick. I think i agree with Dan we should call up Mr. Calvin Johnson. But for until thats possible i think they should rest the recieving on Mr. Roddy White and Mr. MJ. I dont agree with ATLien because they say Roddy white hadnt dropped a pass the first three days of practice, he has sold me. He has talent. I think Jenkins should be number 2 because he is a number two receiver. But trust Roddy. He not going to be Moss this year but maybe in 3 he will be in the top five with an athlete like VICK behind center. Vick will give him a chance he gave Price the chance to drop wide open balls so he will give Roddy. I think we sign Cole Magner or the arena leaguer, let the last preseason game be a battle between them. Game 1 give Hall a chance on some passes, he needs to get some experience on playing the ball. He is the next Deion right????

Prediction 13-3 losses to Bucs., Jets, and Vikings. Roddy gets 7 TDS, Jenkins 6, and Crumpler 9 TDS.

GOD BLESS!

By Billy

September 1, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this

Hey Atlien, Ever heard of Jerry Rice? He knows something about Division II talent.

By CH

September 1, 2005 02:19 PM | Link to this

Regardless of whose on the other end, somebody has to be able to throw it………………

By Billy

September 1, 2005 02:24 PM | Link to this

LT- Wheras I like Hall alot- I agree with Gerald Riggs when I say, so far you would have a hard time proving that he is going to “shut down” anybody. He has not done it yet in preseason, and will draw the best receiver on ever team? Truth is- unless we start seeing something different there- you will hear him quiet down once he starts getting used up. Starting Monday with Terrell Owens. Again- I LOVE THE GUY- he was a GREAT PICK- I think he WILL be good - but he has not shown it yet and before we label him the next Deion- we might ought to see him shut down at least one second string receiver in this preseason. (I do wish he could return kickoffs)One last note- good thought on the arena leaguer. While I have not seen his name pop up too much on these blogs- and I am rooting for Sunshine for #5- (he really was the real deal at Bowling Green)- the job just may go to the Arena leaguer… he has an excellent resume from that league and lets face it- people love to see those arena league successes.

By Carlton

September 1, 2005 03:00 PM | Link to this

People, please get it right…UAB was not DIvision II, they are in Conference USA which, at last check was a Division 1-A conference. Also, Jerry Rice played at Mississippi Valley State University which is NOT Division II, rather, it is Division 1-AA which is a number of scholarships and talent levels away from D2 ball. Some folks in this part of the world think that anyone that UGA doesn’t play is Division II. Goodness, get over yourselves…

Regarding Price, it really doesn’t matter if he were here or not as we won’t throw downfield because one, the offense doesn’t call for vertical pass play save for the occasional throw down the seam and two, our swiss cheese offensive line would never allow for our franchise QB to have enough time to read a defense, correctly or otherwise.

Falcons 10-6, 11-5 if the planets align correctly

By Eagleslink.com

September 1, 2005 03:34 PM | Link to this

Falcons fans…wake up. Peerless Price is the least of your worries. He was lousy anyway. The real unanswered questions of the Falcons:

Can Mike Vick or Ron Mexico complete 60% of his passes and throw for over 150yds per game?

Who is the primary running back on this team? The predictable nature of dunn(pass) and Duckett(run) is a joke.

Can the falcon defense continue to carry the team? When will the offense become balanced and efficient?

When the Philadelphia Freight train comes rolling through the Georgia dome, you will understand how far the Falcons are behind!

5 + 36 + 81 = XL

Eagles 34-10

By Hazel Peach

September 1, 2005 03:43 PM | Link to this

I haven’t been impressed with the Falcons during this preseason. I still don’t think we have accomplished what is needed which is an O-line, a deep threat WR and a shut out CB or at least a tall CB(Rossum?-WTH). But I am glad they got rid of Price. Regardless of the reason, we have enough baggage. I don’t know why everyone keeps saying we didn’t give Price a chance. He came back this year and lost his starting spot. He was brought here to be the #1 receiver not #2, so that was enough to cut him. GO FALCONS!!

By IGHR

September 1, 2005 04:46 PM | Link to this

I know that this blog is supposed to be about the Falcons and pro football, but honestly, who could really truly care about a bunch of highly paid (if not overpaid) athletes at a time like this. Our nation is facing a severe crisis and the last thing I and many hardworking people care about is a bunch of [crap] about which multi- million dollar athlete on a highly successful winning team gets the most catches in a child’s game. Most of us are too busy worrying about where our next dollar for meals and gas will come from.

By Jerry

September 1, 2005 05:06 PM | Link to this

Peerless was a mistake. But in his defense, Micheal Vick was not, at this time, the QB who could not get the ball to Peerless. Wrong reciever with the wrong quaterback at the wrong time.

By Billy

September 1, 2005 05:08 PM | Link to this

Dear IGHR: If you are so concerned and hard working- what are you doing looking at blogs? Maybe if you would cancel your internet service you could afford that next tank of gas? Oh- or is it that you are stealing time from your employer and using your work computer to do your blogging? Which is it? - because it is odd to me that someone so concerned about all this stuff would take the time to go through all the steps to get to this part of the ajc.com- just to let us know we don’t need to be blogging. Maybe if you spent your “spare” time (since you obviously have it) out with a boot collecting money for the victims- it would be a greater help than blasting bloggers. And by the way-I too am concerned.. just not about MYSELF,(unlike you)- I am concerned for those dear pitiful people who have lost everything. For that matter- many of those people who died, went to a devil’s hell. Are you concerned at all about serious things that matter- or just yourself… enough that you want to bring that “crap” into a blog area? Yes, life is real- my suggestion is for you to really examine where you are in it, and with its Maker- rather than waste your time venting on the world around you.

By joe

September 1, 2005 05:08 PM | Link to this

Its tough to put all the blame on Peerless. Until Vick matures and becomes a decent passer, the passing game is going to suffer.

By EddieKang

September 1, 2005 06:05 PM | Link to this

If we [the Falcons} considered going back to the NFC Championship this season I don’t see where the Price move helped us. I feel that it hurt us b/c who’s going to help lead us to the Super Bowl now Finneran? We will not contend for the Super Bowl now. I guess after Jenkins doesn’t perform well this year everybody will want him out too!

By IGHR

September 1, 2005 06:18 PM | Link to this

Our dearest little billy, You should be one to talk about “spare time” because it looks like you’ve been at whatever computer you don’t own, or can’t afford, since at least 11:30 A.M., making yourself feel better attacking other bloggers over the most trivial details of which overpaid athlete did this and which top-dollar player didn’t do that.

Billy here is some advice: stop trying to be the “Mr Know-it-All”, sick sports fanatic of the year, get your own computer, stop [slacking off] in front of someone else’s computer, get a job and get a real life that doesn’t involve kissing the backside of pro athlete during breaks of your “current job” where you probably do nothing but brown nose your superiors anyway.

Besides for someone that wants to appear to have a job it appears that you sure do have a lot say about something so trivial such as the third receiver on a winning team.

P.S.: Oh and Billy, you could probably type quicker if you used two hands to type and cut down on some of the scary fanaticism.

By Bernard King

September 1, 2005 06:22 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick $130 million, Alge Crumpler $26 million, Keith Brooking 35 million, Peerless Price with a $37 million contract and worth it. Priceless. There are somethings money can’t by, that’s fear.

By J Russ

September 1, 2005 07:46 PM | Link to this

I don’t think cutting Price and still having to absorb that big cap hit made much sense at all. You never know when injuries can hit you and since we had to take the cap hit what was the harm. Now if we have a sleeper on the bench that can produce fine. However, there is no evidence of that. I am not so sure Jenkins is going to make the impact many think he will. I think he is still another year away from excelling (same comment for Roddy White). Unless, we get a bona fide home run threat we will be stuck with a one dimensional offense…..That said, nonetheless, I fully expect vick to play and “PASS” better than last year…..mark my word this year will be fun if you are a Falcon fan

the writers pick Carolina as the NFC South’s favorite. Hogwash I say!! But this will provide the motivation for the Falcon nation

By elvis haslem

September 1, 2005 07:55 PM | Link to this

I believed (at the time) when the Falcons signed Peerliss Price they it was a great move. Money wise i can’t say it was a good or bad signing. But every Falcons fan must admit the signing was scene as possitive. Arthur Blank is wrong to say he made a mistake here because i tried like heck to get season tickets. Thinking the Falcons were moving in the right direction trying to get better. The first year Vick got hurt and it showed us what a bad team we had (not Price’s fault) the QBs we had simply could not get anyone the ball. Then comes Mora and Knapp with this ridiculist offense and suspect playcalling. Look at Vick’s numbers under Reeves and under Mora Knapp. The have no plays to fit Prices’ talents. They refused to allow the man to play his game. but according to Mora he did what he was told. Now the pressure is on Mora for Vick to look like a good passer. He was clearly out coached by Andy Reid .

By nitrodust

September 1, 2005 08:15 PM | Link to this

maybe Knapp has mapped out a better offense. If not Vick will have to carry the team and this (in my opinion) unproven coaching staff again this year. I really believe we won last year in spite of the coaches. I am not saying I don’t believe in them but. Look at the game last year against Kansas City and the one against Philly. Those were great coaches against rookies. I hope they have become better. Let’s face it had Reeves been here we still would have won as we did under Wade Phillips after Blank fired Reeves. Blank knew would win once Vick got back. Vick makes the team better defense and offense because he is such a great WINNER

By Bubba

September 1, 2005 08:50 PM | Link to this

Hey Scotty, A person should be able to make a comment without color being an issue. Why are YOU bringing it up? Bubba is a fake name, don’t own a confederate flag, not from the south and don’t even watch much of college football.I make my statements cause we live in a free country and if I wanna criticize someone i will. No matter what color they are. People who bring up race are usually the ones with the agenda. Now go take your foot out of your mouth.

By FalcoW810

September 1, 2005 09:32 PM | Link to this

Please stop-it, Peerless was released for the bottom line, the money. Had he received the same contract as Dez, who do you think would be on the chopping block, do not get me wrong, no way am I pulling for Price, the guy has talents, but he is too passive for todays’ pro football, which is why Troy Edwards and Peter Warrick were cut. Sporting News Scouting Guide stated both of these guys would not block, I think teams want more than one talent from a WR, these days. Stop crying for the Peer-Less, I’m sure the dude has more money and a much more comfortable life style than most if not all bloggers here, and oh, he didn’t have to work that hard for it.

By Mike

September 2, 2005 02:16 AM | Link to this

Congrats to Cole—“you gotta represent”…you made it now work your way up…go Falcons! Again! Coach Mora gets it!

By CH

September 2, 2005 08:00 AM | Link to this

IGHR,

You’re so high and mighty, when do you leave for New Orleans?

By Bronco

September 2, 2005 09:22 AM | Link to this

Vick will be fine with our receiving core, they are young like Vick, and will learn with Vick. For any reason it doesn’t work out this year, atleast we can still run the ball!!!!! But what concerns me the most is our very you cornerbacks, we face alot of very good receivers and our guys are very young. this is our main concern

By JIM

September 2, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

I THINK GETTING RID OF PRICE IS LONG OVERDUE. CUDOS TO FALCONS STAFF FOR CUTTING THEIR LOSS AND SENDING AN OVERPAID UNDERACHEAVING HAS BEEN ON HIS WAY. GO BIRDS.

By Billy

September 2, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this

IGHR, Once again making your ingnorance known to all men. Please- work on your cutdowns… those you used were weak… read the blog and learn from some of the experts. Michael takes his share of hits from others- read some of their feuds, and get more creative if you really want to get to the name calling. I only responded to you on behalf of all the online bloggers you chose to rebuke. DId you really think you could type such and not get anyone to rebuke you back? CH was straight forwqard and kind. You better be glad some of the regulars did not come at you. If you can’t handle that- then don’t provoke it. Point taken however on the attack of some other bloggers. I will lay off the unprovoked criticism. May we have a better blog for it.

By brink

September 2, 2005 01:46 PM | Link to this

I’ve got an old fence post that would be an equal replacement.

By Marc T.

September 2, 2005 02:22 PM | Link to this

Price is gone, get over it. It’s obvious the Falcons are more of a running team and the real threat in the air is Crumpler or anything Vick can make happen scrambling. Even a rookie can get open when Vick gets or makes enough time of his own, So you go with the people who have the desire to play and win and not someone making the millions and content with just going out there. That is why Philadelphia won’t even bother to sign him. Philadelphia went to 3 NFC championship games without any real WR’s, So don’t sweat it right now, Let them go out and see what they are made of.

By Dan

September 2, 2005 02:55 PM | Link to this

Quick name a star reciever on the last 4 champions.
(Jeapordy theme song)……. yup WR is a highly overated position It just so happens there are a bunch out there flapping there gums.
Defense and a balanced offense wins in the NFL and any one of the recievers left on the falcons can duplicate the numbers price put up. He is a solid 2 rec but not worth the money he was getting

By IGHR

September 2, 2005 03:39 PM | Link to this

Billy, I do admit that I should have stated my position more clearly in saying that normally I am a football and sports fan, but in light of the gravity of the current national crisis I feel that worrying about the departure of a vastly overpaid and low performing athlete such as Peerless Price who refuses to even play the game properly by simply blocking for the team is needless when the Falcons are going win a bunch of games in 2005 anyway. On top of that, Peerless Price is still going to get millions that he really didn’t work for or deserve while darn near everyone in this blog struggles to find and pay for $4-a-gallon gas.

Also, Billy, In my first statements I never attacked anyone in this blog personally or collectively, I only questioned the point of discussing something so obvious; which willing player WHO WILL BLOCK FOR THE TEAM AND TRY TO EARN HIS KEEP will replace the disgrunted Price on a team that will clearly win more than a few games this year? Billy, I only came back at you in a semi-vicious blog because I was upset about what I perceived to be some extreme right-wing comments you made about the hurricane tragedy when you said that “many of those people who died went to a devil’s hell”. I don’t know what exactly you meant by that and I probably should have asked you for more clarification of those comments before I came back in such a vicious way.

I do apologize if I appeared to be attacking the entire blog, I wasn’t and did not mean to appear to be contributing to a hostile environment in the blog and like Billy, I too will cut down on the negative rhetoric and agree to stay more inbounds on the subject of the blog. Sorry.

By justin

September 2, 2005 03:58 PM | Link to this

I still think that our best wide receiver is Finneran. He turned his game around after the first loss to the eagles. As for Price he was part of the Reeves team. I think we should have gotten rid of him, because I’m sure he had the word “receive” somewhere in his job description. “Come on Down the Price was wrong.

By Dan

September 2, 2005 04:33 PM | Link to this

Yeah most things Reeves did were a mess. I am a Giants fan and suffered much in his tenure. Fun factoid of the day. When someone other than John Elway is his QB, Dan Reeves has a sub .500 record. If he makes it to the Hall Reeves needs to send Elway a special thank you note

By Howard Coleman

September 2, 2005 04:33 PM | Link to this

The Falcons are a run oriented team which means a lot players in the box to stop the run. That means no double coverage on most 3rd down situations.Give the kids a chance (Micheal & Roddy).Once a good hard hitting corner introduces them to the NFL, will see!

By Freddy

September 2, 2005 04:50 PM | Link to this

Give Cole Manger a freakin opportunity! All he has done in the preseason is work hard an impress, why not give him a chance. Tell ‘em Huck.

By larry

September 2, 2005 05:22 PM | Link to this

Where is it written that a young receiver cannot be an effective receiver? We really haven’t seen a whole lot of Roddy, but what I did see was Roddy blow past the secondary twice early in the preseason only to have the ball poorly underthrown by Schaub and Detmer. I believe this young receiver will give us a lot to cheer about in the when all is said and done!

By Uncle Joe

September 2, 2005 05:28 PM | Link to this

IGHR,

For your information, I made a substantial contribution to the Am. Red Cross to aid the people of the Gulf States. You’re not the only one who cares deeply about the National Emegency.

Having said that, if you have nothing to contribute about the Falcons in this blog, simply go away. The rest of us would appreciate your absence.

By j.w.j

September 2, 2005 08:04 PM | Link to this

I love Cole Magner, he is has earned a spot on the team

 

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