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Vick’s preseason basically done
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Michael Vick completed of 5 of 10 passes for 44 yards and a touchdown and ran four times for 30 yards in Thursday’s victory over Jacksonville. That brought his preseason totals to 17-of-29 for 191 yards and two touchdowns and six carries for 61 yards rushing in four preseason games.
Those are pretty solid numbers, with the only possible shortcoming being the absence of a few deep completions, which might not be his fault.
Besides the obvious, Vick has looked in control of the offense most of the time, showing a generalship that has allowed the Falcons to dictate much of the tempo when he’s on the field.
Since Vick probably won’t do anything more than hand the ball off three times in the preseason finale next Thursday at Miami, how do you think he’s performed thus far, and what are your expectations for the regular season?




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By Dr. Face
August 26, 2005 04:03 PM | Link to this
Al Gore invented Michael Vick.
By Andy
August 26, 2005 04:48 PM | Link to this
I think Vick has done well. He looks better and more in control of the offense. I am not expecting Peyton Manning type play out of him. 19-25 for 250 yards, 1 TD and 30 yards rushing a game and lots of wins will be fine. I would like one of those 3 plays in the 1st series against Miami be a completed long ball. After that, take him out and let the 2nd stringers battle for roster spots.
By Dejay
August 26, 2005 05:00 PM | Link to this
I couldn’t agree more. If he does anything other than hand the ball off three or four times next week, its a mistake. Contrary to what the ‘experts’ want, I don’t expect Vick to break Marino’s passing records, either. Just improve from last season; that all I ask for. If he gets 2800-3200 passing along with about 400-700 rushing, especially with our running game and defense, we’ll be lining up the Dome for playoff tickets.
By L.J.
August 26, 2005 05:11 PM | Link to this
There is an old football saying that when you put the ball in the air three things can happen — and two of them are bad. I like the fact that, unlike prototypical pocket passers who try to zip a ball into coverage or throw it away, Vick can get positive yards if he tucks it and runs (and runs out of bounds). Doing this a few times is going to eventually open up the deep pass for him. I don’t see him completing too many 40-50 yard passes from the pocket. But I think he’ll hit a fair share of those while on the run. I don’t see anything wrong with that, so long as the WRs read what he’s doing and can get down the field (read: Roddy White).
By Cannonball Butler
August 26, 2005 07:04 PM | Link to this
Vick did look better last night but I still can’t envision anything better than a 7 & 9 season. I mean it’s just Deja Vue all over again. I just hope I’m wrong.
By russ
August 27, 2005 12:21 AM | Link to this
I can’t seem to understand why everyone wants vick to change so much,he already has a higher winning percentage ,has won more play-off games,been to more pro bowls than any quarterback in falcons history,and he’s only started for two seasons. Atlanta fans need to get a better understanding of the NFL and not have such a short memory. vick passed for 2900+ yards in 2002 including 286 in the playoff loss to the eagles.What about the pittsburg game where he delivered on 3rd and over 20 yards on three seperate ocassions. It takes 3 years to get comfortable in a new offense.(see Daunte clupepper 3 years ago. he led the Nfl in fumbles and interceptions much like Vick did a yeary ago.)
By John Manautou
August 27, 2005 12:31 AM | Link to this
He’s looked like a qb that is more comfortable and established. That’s what starts to happen when you learn a offense and you are going into your 5th season! Vick is focused on one thing, winning. He wats to lrad the Falcons to a super bowl win and have the key of Atlanta handed to him.
It’s going to happen.
Where’s all the Cole Magner is the greatest non drafted receiver people?
By Danbo
August 27, 2005 06:22 AM | Link to this
Vick will not make a pimple on a real QB’s butt! He is the best runner in football but can not and will never be able to pass.
By Phillip Clancy
August 27, 2005 10:13 AM | Link to this
Vick has improved much from last year. Even though his best strength right now is running he is trying to stay in the pocket. If you saw the game against the Titans he threw a Touchdown pass from the pocket that was 30+ yards. So I think this year he will have more long balls, because there is no doubt in anybody’s mind that he can throw. PREDICTION
FALCONS 2005 SUPERBOWL CHAMPS
By Matthew
August 27, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this
I nominate Danbo for Village Idiot and also, for Dumbest Blogger Name Ever.
You go, Danbo!
By Brian Hunt
August 27, 2005 12:40 PM | Link to this
Vick will be fine. People have to remember that he hasn’t played a lot as a QB. He had one year as the starter in college and he’s played basically two seasons as starter in the NFL. Considering his actual experience, I’d say he’s well ahead of the curve when you consider that the average QB with his same tim in the League would have twice his experience.
My only concern for this team at this point is the secondary. They still look suspect to me. They routinely play 10 to 15 yards off the WRs and still get beat for 20-30 yard gains. They’re good at playing balls in front of them, but other than D. Hall, none of them look comfortable turning and running with receivers. The safeties still seem out of position against both the run and the pass. Even with this deficiency I think they still win 10 games.
By Bubba
August 27, 2005 01:05 PM | Link to this
56% completion ratio last year. Horrible. Take Crumpler away and Vick can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Oh yea, It’s NEVER Vicks fault though is it? It’s the recievers or O-line right?
By PreyDawg
August 27, 2005 03:14 PM | Link to this
Manatou,
Here is one of those Manger a GOOD non drafted wide receiver prospet people. What of it? What did he do wrong in this game to make you think he is not a first rate prospect. He muffed a punt in the rain. I guess that means we should immediately cut him? This kid still has way more up side than down. We need to put him in next week on the first series and give him a chance to make some plays. Not throw desperation flings to him when the line is not providing time.
By L.J.
August 27, 2005 03:18 PM | Link to this
But you see, Bubba, you cannot take Crumpler away just like you can’t take away 11-5 and making it to the NFC championship game which was an improvement in wins and depth into the playoffs from the last full season Vick played. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS SHORT CAREER, Vick will run the same system with the same HC and OC and improvements around him. If he’s as bad as you say he is, then it will be magnified this year. But he’ll be better and you will look just like a ……Bubba.
By dewayne cobb
August 27, 2005 10:52 PM | Link to this
i can not believe that that a guy puts us 1 game away from the superbowl and people still complain. it is obvious if they go on to win it, you still will complain! we are lucky to have a great quarter back that we can see every week.
By JS
August 27, 2005 11:32 PM | Link to this
Wish list: That the Falcons offensive line holds their blocks for 5-6 secs like the Colts line does; That receivers hang onto the ball; That Manger is kept, (reminds me of Belitnikoff..catches everything, but not real fast; that the defencive backs not allow so many receptions. Overall, they are improved, but have a very tough schedule.
By RM
August 28, 2005 02:15 AM | Link to this
Vick is still learning but he should improve. I expect 57 - 60% completion, at least 3000 yards passing, 20 TD’s/12 INT’s, and around 700 rushing yards.
By realist
August 28, 2005 09:12 AM | Link to this
Vick, might have looked better in the preseason, but then remember, the defenses are doing the same thing the offenses are doing, looking for the young players that will be starting and or making a name for themselves. Vick is no Brady, or McNabb, or Favre. He is an average throwing QB with lots of speed to run, though numerous teams showed how to contain him. He has to be able to throw long and his receivers have to catch it. Also, the line has to keep the defense out of the backfield. There will be no Superbowl for Atlanta…..not with the personnel that the Falcons currently have.
By mike D
August 28, 2005 09:41 AM | Link to this
I think Mike Vick has done well, but the coaching staff gets an F! Let me see lets take Mike Vick and keep him in the pocket so he doesn’t get hit so much. So you want one of the quickest men in football to stay stil so he doesn’t get hit? He needs to run, that is the full package Mike Vick, not 5 yards and the the Mike Vick cumbersome looking fall to the gound that is supposed to be a slide.
By erik
August 28, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this
who cares about vick’s stats? since when were stats more important than winning? rather have great stats like brian griese and be a loser?
By Carlos Durrah
August 28, 2005 11:15 AM | Link to this
Vick will be fine…everyone seems to base his success on numbers but the bottom line is always winning. That’s what he’s been doing (when he’s healthy) so what’s the problem? Atlanta needs to stop being so fickle and give Mike time to progress.
By Andy
August 28, 2005 11:53 AM | Link to this
You know what is funny. So many people look to Vick’s struggles against the Eagles and the fact our WRs played like @#$% last year. What I remember most was the CB we just cut, Morton, was getting burned left and right for big gains. I said as I watched the game that this rook cost us the game and now he is on the street. Anyway, lay off Vick and let him develop, because if he wasn’t here, we would be hoping for 7-9 seasons again…
By Moses
August 28, 2005 02:37 PM | Link to this
VICK=Falcons Success and PLAYOFFS which helps in getting a shot at the SUPERBOWL!!! NUFF SAID!!
By Erik
August 28, 2005 07:01 PM | Link to this
The numbers don’t matter to me either. It’s having those nice long sustained drives down the field, not always depending on the “home run” to get you downfield. Avoid the 3 and outs, and I’ll be happy.
Remember, Troy Aikman only threw 20TDs or over once in his career.
By Danbo Hater
August 29, 2005 12:10 AM | Link to this
I like you Danbo. Sure Vick will not make a pimple on a real QB’s butt. I’m sure Dennis Rodman will have a field day in yours….
By akhenaten21c2
August 29, 2005 08:31 AM | Link to this
I have never read so much garbage about Michael Vick. He is the “truth”, the prototype for the next wave of QB’s in the NFL. And for all you people that point out that Vick can only throw to Crumpler, take a look at Green Bay. WHO did they just sign to a mutli year deal???Bubba Franks!!!! A tight END AND the recipient of the majority of Favre’s passes. What about Joe Montanna? what about the Catch by the tight end to win the Superbowl??? What about Steve Young, his number one reciever was his tight end until he “grasped” the offense??? Michael Vick has a cannon, and with the addition of these new receivers you doubting Toms will see the “truth”. Oh yea, name one QB who came into the West Coast offense their first 2 years and blew it up??? cANT DO IT CAUSE THERE AINT ONE!@’NOUGH SAID!@
By L.J.
August 29, 2005 08:38 AM | Link to this
I love your points akenhaten, but Dwight Clark, who made “the Catch,” was a WR, not a TE. Remember, that was before Jerry Rice. But your point is well-taken!
By DAN LAFAVOR
August 29, 2005 08:48 AM | Link to this
WE ATLANTA FAN’S ARE SO FICKLE,DID ANYONE NOTICE M VICK IN THE PRO BOWL WITH AN OFFENSIVE LINE THAT CAN PASS BLOCK AND WIDE RECEIVERS THAT CAN GET OPEN.I LIKE WHAT HE DOING WITH WITH WHAT HE HAS TO WORK WITH.THE MAN HAS A CANNON,AND REMEMBER ALL HE DOE’S IS PUT W’S ON YA !!! {AS IN WIN’S}
By D.W.
August 29, 2005 09:48 AM | Link to this
Thanks to Dan LaFavor. Offensive Line, remember that, the Pro Bowl tells it all. If you are 200lbs and over 350lbs rushing at you, what would the average person do—-> exactly run.
Michael Vick throws a pass like a cannon, the only concern, is how hard he throws the ball.
By Brian Hunt
August 29, 2005 09:51 AM | Link to this
Why’s everyone responding to all this flame bait about Vick? Some of these guys are probably Panthers or Saints fans. ‘Nuff said.
By Marc Lucier
August 29, 2005 10:18 AM | Link to this
7&9?!!!?!?!!!?! Where is the precedent? In his career as a starter, the falcons have ridden Vick deep into the playoffs and faltered when he was out. I agree tough schedule, issues at wideout and in the secondary. Carolina is tough as nails. But 7&9? Get me some of THAT stuff!
By Philip
August 29, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this
It’s hard to predict what Vick will do this season. The Falcons have a tough schedule this year and still have huge question marks on both the defensive and offensive lines. Thus far over the past 4 years he hasn’t progressed one iota as a quarterback…he can’t read defenses, doesn’t look off defenders, and thinks run before throw. Some of his lack of development can be attributed to a papermache offensive line, but I still wonder if Vick has the mental capacity and dedication to quarterback a team like Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, or Tom Brady.
I’m tired of idiots talking about how hard he throws the ball…a strong arm doesn’t make a QB. The intangibles such as leadership, intelligence, and heart make a successful quarterback. If Vick doesn’t show improvement this season we should all be willing to admit that the Falcons made a mistake investing $100+ million in this “athlete.” The NFL does not allow teams to develop players over several years. With the salary cap structure players have to make an immediate impact or they are a waste of roster space. Personally I would have preferred to have kept our draft picks and have LaDanian Tomlison on our team right now. Something in my gut tells me that Vick is closer to Kordell Stewart-type player than a Dante Culpepper type. I for one hope the kid proves me wrong because he appears to be a genuinely nice young man in interviews and I harbor no ill will towards him.
This is Vick’s last chance in my book. Plus, if he suceeds this season with an average offensive line, no true #1 running back, and one of the toughest schedules then that should erase any doubts.
By tim
August 29, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this
aw come on 7and 9? naw with a little luck a 500 year is in the cards. Maybe playoffs if the injury bug is traded elsewhere.
By Philip
August 29, 2005 10:32 AM | Link to this
I failed to mention the secondary because I thought that it was obvious. Plus, it’s always more important to fix the lines before any other position. A good defensive line can make a poor secondary look good. Of course the fact the Falcons in their infinite wisdom have failed to draft corners in the draft and gave Pro-Bowl money to a mediocre Jason Webster begs the question…what are they smoking in the Falcons front office? Of course the bigger question is when will they draft a run stuffing defensive tackle that can keep the blockers off the linebackers.
Marc Lucier: Our success last year wasn’t because of Vick as much as it was on a career year from the diminutive Warrick Dunn, a pansy schedule, and a defense of opportunity.
By Smart Yankee
August 29, 2005 10:38 AM | Link to this
Mike Vick is still developing, esp as a passer. While the Falcon’s overall passing game is growing, Peerless Price will never be great here. He was over rated to begin with and a small QB to a small wide out is almost impossible in todays’s NFL… Think about it.. Roddy White needs to be the man and Mike needs to learn to find him and Alge. Vick is still the only athelete in the NFL that is worth 3 or 4 wins each year by himself..
By Luis
August 29, 2005 10:45 AM | Link to this
To Phillip… This is Vick’s last chance in my book Good thing that the entire Falcons’s season and success rests on “your book”…..LOL
By John Reid
August 29, 2005 10:54 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry, but I think I can live with 2500 yards passing and 700 rushing with 10-12 wins each year instead of 3500 passing yards 200 rushing yards and 6 wins.
He’s not the same type of “traditional” QB that you fanboys want (ie Manning & Brady) but guess what, WHO CARES?! For all of those complaining let me ask you this, would you rather go back to the days of Chris Miller or, gulp, the reign of Marion Campbell? let that one marinate in your heads for a minute. We’re still one year away from the Superbowl but a playoff berth will be ideal this year!
By Falconsbeliever
August 29, 2005 11:23 AM | Link to this
Philip - you’d rather have LaDanian than Vick? You can’t be serious. Well, the Chargers do have LaDanian (and the draft picks). How many Conference championships have they been involved in since LaDanian joined the team? How many playoff games have they won?
Your assertion that the NFL does not allow teams to develop players over several years is ridiculous. Have you no idea as to how the NFL works, particularly at the QB position? That’s exactly what the 49ers are doing with Alex Smith, the Bengals with Carson Palmer, the Giants with Eli, the Chargers with Rivers, the Eagles did with Donavan McNabb, the Colts with Peyton, the Vikings with Duante Culpepper and Falcons with Vick (not to mention Roddy White and M. Jenkins). The Falcons have been so fortunate to have Vick succeed while “developing.” The same can’t be said for those other teams and their respective QB’s. Just imagine what Vick will do once he has “developed.”
You seem to think the Falcons’ won last year because of Dunn and the defense. I’m interested to hear your explanaton of the Falcons’ success in 2002. Better yet, I’m interested to hear how the Falcons, who were 2-10 (or somewhere around there) during the first 3/4 of the 2003 season, finished 3-1 when Vick returned. That alone is sufficent evidence that Vick is the difference maker on this team. Without him, the Falcons are a sub-500 team.
Vick is well worth the investment, my friend. (And lets not even delve into the money he brings to the franchise).
By Philip
August 29, 2005 11:51 AM | Link to this
Falconbeliever:
LT is ten times the player that Vick is right now. With LT on our team we wouldn’t have an overpaid Dunn on our team and just maybe team officials would have invested some money into the offensive line. This team would be a better team with LT than Vick. Call me old school, but that’s just how I see it.
Let’s see…Smith, Palmer, and Eli have done nothing so they don’t even factor into the equation. Although Palmer displayed more improvement in his one season than Vick has in four. McNabb, Peyton, and Culpepper actually developed and showed improvement each year. And then there is Tom Brady who was drafted in 2000 as a sixth-round pick and all he has done in 5 years is win two Super Bowls.
Vick has had 4 years to develop…and hasn’t shown any significant improvement. Stop making excuses for the man and citing all sorts of extenuating circumstances that hindered said development. This is the year he needs to take a “huge” step forward to quiet all his critics (such as myself). Of course all that matters are wins, but think of how many more wins we might have if he actually was a quarterback.
And you’re correct about the money. The organization makes it back in merchandise sales. Still a waste in my humble opinion. Never give that kind of cash to an unproven commodity.
By Traceman
August 29, 2005 12:13 PM | Link to this
Philip: If you are expecting Vick to play QB the way a “traditional QB” does then you are likely to be forever disappointed. His ability to make things happen on the move (whether it be running or passing) is what makes him unique and a nightmare for other teams to defend. I think his completion percentage, QB rating, ability to read defenses, etc. will all improve as he gains more experience but those things still won’t define just how effective he is as long as he plays to his strengths. Hopefully, he will ALWAYS use his legs to frustrate defenses because that is what makes him special.
As for intangibles, Vick has those in spades. In fact, those intangibles are just as responsible as his legs for making him the special player that he is. He is the UNQUESTIONED leader of the team. When he is on the field, both the offense AND the defense believe that he will somehow make a play to win the game no matter what the situation and no matter how he has played up until that point in the game. Keith Brooking has said on more than one occasion that the defense feels that if they can just get the ball back to Vick when the game is in the balance, he is going to find a way to lead us to victory. It is amazing just how often Vick has led us to victory late in close games in his short career. It is a GREAT feeling believing that we are going to find a way to win close games when past QBs (and teams) always seemed to find a way to lose those games.
As for Vick not being worth the money, are you kidding me? The Falcons were basically an unknown to the national media until Vick hit the scene. Now, we are the most featured team in the entire league and he is arguably the most popular player in the NFL. The guy has started two full seasons and lead us to the playoffs in both of those seasons. He also made the Pro Bowl in both of those seasons. If he has done all that while he is still “developing” as you say, imagine what will happen when he has started for 4 or 5 seasons.
As for Vick being a “Culpepper type” or a “Kordell Stewart type,” he is neither. He is a unique player (maybe even a once in a generation player) with skills that the league has NEVER seeen and may never see again.
Finally, as for this being Vick’s “last chance,” last chance for WHAT? He is the winningest QB in franchise history. He’s been to two Pro Bowls in 2 years as a full time starter. He led us to the NFC Championship game in his SECOND season as a full time starter. He has already gone further in the playoffs than the great Peyton Manning despite the CLEARLY superior offensive talent that Manning has around him. No doubt Tomlinson is a great player but I didn’t see him or the Chargers in the AFC Championship game last year.
By scotty
August 29, 2005 12:26 PM | Link to this
It’s nice to see all the quarterback analysts we have here in Atl. I think it should be a prerequesite that they know football first, though. Unless you are a Vick hater or dont know what you’re lookin’ at when you watch a game, there is little arguement as far as Vick and what he’s capable of. This is certainly the biggest year to date for a Falcon fan. The boys are lookin eager to get to the real deal. Our usual suspects- secondary being #1- need to tighten up, but I’m sure when we get out on the field and take a look at those green birds across from us, we’ll be ready for action. #7 is gonna show #5 we ain’t in the preseason no more. Got most of our tough games in the dome, too! Birds are gonna get dirty again this year y’all. We got the NFC on lock. And our eyes on Lombardi, baby!!
By Merry NcCambry
August 29, 2005 01:12 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick is the finest, young quarterback that will ever play the game for the Falcons! He’s so dynamic that people expect a great deal from him. However, we all should remember that Michael is 24 years old! Already he’s done more than most quarterbacks ever dreamed of doing. Give the guy a break. Let him grow and watch the “dream team” come alive!
By marc J
August 29, 2005 01:35 PM | Link to this
You haters need to stop hating on M. Vick. All the guy has done since he arrived in Atlanta was win. He don’t need to be like Payton and Favre (They choke in the the big games). You call these guys great QB, but neither has won a Superbowl last I heard and I like both of those guys. Stats mean nothing, it’s win that counts and M. Vick wins. Besides, mike mean alot to this franchise. Because of Vick, the Atlanta Franchise now has respect. Before he arrived, we barely gotten any recognition, beside the 98 Superbowl.
Admitted most of you haters didn’t like the Falcons until M. Vice arrived. So go the Soldout games and Season ticket waiting list if M. Vice leaves. He is the Franchise.
By L.J.
August 29, 2005 01:49 PM | Link to this
Philip, tisk, tisk. While it may sound like some folks are making excuses about Vick, you, on the other hand are holding him to unreasonable standards (P. Manning, Montana, Brady). What do they all have in common — Same offensive coordinator and system with relative stability at head coach for the early part of their careers (the lone exception being Dungy’s replacement of Mora, Sr.) I will counter your arguements with the example of Steve Young. And before you roll your eyes, keep in mind that everything you’re saying about Vick now was being said about Young before he was traded to SF. I saw him play when he was in the USFL and in TB and all he did was run, run, run. He had no WRs, no stability at HC, and nothing around him. But then he found a system. Ah yes, a system. He sat and learned and then registered the best passer rating in history. Now how come your earlier posts fail to make this observation? I’m curious as to what excuse you’ll make in saying that this is not a valid comparison.
By L.J.
August 29, 2005 01:58 PM | Link to this
Yo Marc J,
What is M. Vice? Is that short for Miami Vice? Ha-just kidding!
By falcon guy
August 29, 2005 02:15 PM | Link to this
Until Mike Vick starts 16 games in a season and doesn’t make the playoffs, all these haters should shut up. The way I see it, he’s made the playoffs twice in two starting seasons, made the NFC championship game and did so with a modest passing attack. He’s also done so with two totally different head coaches, offensive coordinators and no #1 receiver. So I don’t know how these haters can look at him and see a half empty glass. I see super bowl wins if he only improves slightly. All he needs is some coaching stability for a few years in a row. To all the haters: no one is forcing you to be a Falcons fan, so take it to somewhere like New Orleans, they have a pocket passer.
By KB
August 29, 2005 02:34 PM | Link to this
Will you please quit hating on Michael Vick? Michael Vick reminds me a lot like John Elway. He puts fear into a defense. I hated John Elway for that (myself being from KC.) The rest of Michael’s game will come in time. Quit focusing on Michael Vick and focus on that lousy offensive line.
That line has only two decent players on it, Kyran Forney and Todd Weiner. God forbid Michael gets hurt and Matt Schaub has to play. Schaub will get killed because of that sorry line.
By akhenaten21c2
August 29, 2005 03:20 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick has been with the Atlanta Falcons since 2001. He was 21 years old when he arrived here, Drafted by Dan Reeves. His first season here, He did NOT start, because he was being developed. Like most first year QB’s. Chris Chandlier was the starter. Vick played in 10 games in 2001, starting 2.Stats for the year are as follows:113 attempts/50 completions-785 total, 52 yds longest completion, 11 passes over 20 yds, 4 over 40 yds. Thats his first year. YEAR 2- 15 games played, 421 attempts/231 completions-total YARDS 2936. 44 passes over 20 yds, 8 over 40 yds. NOW that seems like a passer to me. Vick was in his second year of the same offense, coach etc.2003- Vick breaks his leg plays in 5 games were he started 4. He attempted 100 passes/completed 50, 7 for over 20 yds and 2 for over 40 yds. So we change coaches at the beginning of 2004 and of course we change offenses. We go from conservative/run standard passing plays to one of the most innovative offenses in the game WEST COAST OFFENSE. So in his first year under this new offense, he starts all 15 games, 321 attempts/181 completions 62 yds longest pass/14 TDs/12 INTs/ 35 passes over 20 yds, 8 over 40 yds. His numbers are actually lower in 04 because of the new offense, but not by much. I can remember that year, when he went several games without an INT. He was praised in 02 for his accuracy and power of his arm. Now all we can say is he is a crappy passer, just a running QB. Lets look game by game for 04— Passer rating 78.4 against the Niners, he was sacked 4 times, 1 TD and 1 INT. Against St Louis- passer rating of 120.3, sacked once,14 of 19 passing NO INT.Arizona- 10 of 20 passing, 1 INT, passer rating of 46, longest completion 58 yards. Carolina-10 for 18 passing/rating of 82.6, 17 yds longest completion,no INT or passing TDs. Detroit- 18 of 29 passing/rating of 63/sacked 6 times/ 1 INT//San Diego—12 of 21 passing,rating of 104.9,14 yds longest pass and 1 TD.Kansas City-LEts all forget that one-7 of 21 passing/rating 13.9/sacked 4 times/2 INTs DENVER-18 of 24 passing/rating 136/2 TDs—Thats just the first half of the season. Some of you guys have a very short memory. The 2 times we played the Bucs they sacked Vick 10 times ( 5 each game) we split the series.In the OT win over Carolina Vick was sacked 4 times. 2nd time VS N. O. Vick did not play. Seattle sacked him 2 times/passer rating of 126. I can see the corelation(sp?) between sacks/wins and Vicks success. He is waiting this year for the routes to develop and trying to trust the O-Line to contain the rush until then. But if I have a Line that will let me get sacked 6 times in a game, I would run too. You haters need to lay off Mike. He is a better fit than LT of San Diego. Had we keep LT, who would be the QB? doug Johnson? Chris Chandelier? who? We are ok at that position and the fact that Vick CAN run, preserves Warrick Dunn. Thats why we lead the LEAGUE last year in RUSHING. D V D. Dunn Vick and Duckett. You hater lay off Mike and be glad that he is here in the ATL. All praises to Arthur Blank for getting in a great Personnel guy ( McKay ) and a great coach. Hell. . I would do anything Mora asked me to do. You gotta luv em. GET OFF VICK!!!!!!
By akhenaten21c2
August 29, 2005 03:26 PM | Link to this
oh yea, I remember Montanna’s first years wih the 49ers. We rountinely whipped their asses. He was awful….until he learned the offense. ‘Nough Said!!!!
By T
August 29, 2005 04:40 PM | Link to this
marc J,
Read up on Superbowl XXXI.
By C-man
August 29, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this
ALL MV. NEEDS IS FOR HIS TEAMATES TO DO IS TO PLAY EACH DOWN THE WAY MV. DOES.PROTECT HIM(OL.)WR CATCH THE BALLS SO CRUMP WANT BE DT.WD.PICK UPS RUSHER VERY WELL.TJ. NEEDS TO SHOW THAT HE CAN PROTECT MV. DEFENSE LESS MISTAKES COME WITH PASS RUSH.REDDOG AT THE RIGHT TIME .CREATE T.O. .BUT THE OFFENCE BACK ON THE FIELD .MY FOOTBALL FRIENDS REMEMBER IT A TEAM GAME WHEN EVERY ONE EXCUTING PROPERLEY WE KNOW MV IS GOING TO PRODUCE SO THE REST OF THE TEAM (PLAYERS COACHES FANS WE MUST DO OUR PART.
By Everette Whitaker
August 30, 2005 12:21 AM | Link to this
Michael Vick plays like a General. I have watched all of his Games. I have seen him developed to have a Super Bowl type calibur. I know one thing for sure, that if you were to put any other QB behind the previous Offensive lines he has had I bet they couldn’t be as brillant as him.
By Arlen
August 30, 2005 09:32 AM | Link to this
I think will be okay but I’m concerned about the receivers. In the West Coast offense it shouldn’t take the receivers that long to get open. There were too many times Vick had to look off the receivers because they couldn’t get open. The quicker they get open…the quicker Vick can get them the ball. Offense line so far gets a C! Blocking for Vick has not been great.
By Greg
August 30, 2005 10:07 PM | Link to this
Man o man!! Vick is GOLD for the Falcons y’all, heck fire! as far as i can remember the Falcs have NEVER had a really stable O line, He can RUN thats why he has had success. GOOD LORD dont try and make him a pocket passer.