Get Schooled

By Teacher Teacher

February 19, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Black History Month needs to go away. It trivializes the contributions of blacks in America’s history. Besides, if our country really does treat all races as equal, why does one race obtain special treatment these days?

The need for Black History Month is long gone. All it amounts to now is an annual Jeopardy!-like lesson plan in which isolated names are learned. Of what worth is it to know that a black individual invented the traffic light?

By Michelle

February 19, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

I’m going to have to agree. If there’s a Black History Month, there should be a Jewish History Month, Asian History Month, etc.

By jc

February 19, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

If we ever want to things to be equal we need to stop having different races have special “so called months”

By Mundy

February 19, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

Soon enough we won’t worry about black history month, because we will soon be forced to learn Muslim history. Then there will be no black history, no white history, nothing but Muslims, muslim law, etc, all the time. Mark my words, we will be under Muslim law within the next 40 years, and I for one hope I am not around to see it.

By bubba

February 19, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Just try taking away Black History Month……The NAACP and Jeesie Jackson would go nuts

By Lisa B.

February 19, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Mundy, That’s a scary prediction! I’ve been reading articles all morning from www.pushhamburger.com a website shared by Iron Maiden last week.

Your predication will likely come true if Americans don’t band together to save our country.

In that context, Black History Month is probably devisive.

By Teacher Teacher

February 19, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Hey, Mundy, I don’t believe all of America will be under Muslim control, but portions of it probably will. A more plausible scenario would be that America goes under some extremely conservative police control where no history is taught, only subservience to the state.

I read an article about the possibility of nuclear war between India and Pakistan being highly likely anytime soon. If that happens, then the world should watch out! The radioactivity that would encircle the earth and the radioactive debris that would be washed into the sea with the next monsoon would be enough to cause history to go out the window in preference for science!

Instead of being so backward oriented with our schools, we should be future oriented. We should be instilling in our children the need to work with one another collaboratively to resolve future issues that will confront us all. This desire to revisit the past all the time in our society is detrimental to our moving forward.

By Mundy

February 19, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

It’s already happening, it’s just the very beginning, tip of the iceberg. Minnesota elected a Muslim, who refused to “swear on the Bible” but insists on taking his oath on the Kuron (sp). We have a mayor in Macon, who is muslim, and now he is changing his name to a Muslim name. IF Hillary gets elected, it will happen alot sooner. That woman is very scary!!!!!
IF we withdraw from Iraq without completing the job, it will happen sooner also.
If Hillary gets elected, she will pull us out of Iraq, then we will be forced to fight terrorism on our own soil. It’s only a matter of time before the suicide boomers are here and killing Americans…….since there is no border security to our south, what is to stop these crazy people from just walking right across the border with all the mexicans?????? Just asking? I’m scared to death of Hillary getting into the white house. Yes, Bush is doing a terrible job, but she will run us right into the ground. I think we really need to stick with a republican president, for the time being.

By War Eagle

February 19, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Mundy is right. We need to tell Pakistan to go in and kill osama bin laden or we let India loose on them. We need a Reagan type president who will nuke Iran/Iraq and if need be Pakistan and rid the world of these religious muslims or they will be the new Hitler’s of the world.Every war has Muslims in it-Phillippines, Gaza, Africa and Gulf wars and the clowns that destroyed Yugoslavia. All because they wanted an Islamic State. If Hillary gets elected, the Democrats will pass a law that we all turn Islamic and that will end Football and our normal lives as we know it as we will be praying 5 times a day and there won’t be a stock market and the Gov’t will own all the property. Why are we in this mess? PCism, Clintonism-liberalism. They are APPEASERS! Iran wants to rule the world and Europe has gone chicken on us. They are afraid of the Muslims and popular opinion. If we don’t eliminate them, they will eliminate us. Simple as that. Nuke them till they glow!

By War Eagle

February 19, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

There should be no History month for anyone-it is devisive and racist. It is a nuisance and has no meaning any more. What’s next? Taco month at Taco Bell?

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Much of what passes for black history is driven by current political agendas. Try reading “Not Out Of Africa” by Leftkowitz for some insight in to the level of fabrication and bizarre claims being made.

By Orlando

February 19, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

You all are idiots. That is all I will say.

By truth

February 19, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

I find it interesting the comments that are being made about Black History Month. I wonder if any of you have really taken the time to learn about African Americans and the important contributions they made especially from inventions we use everyday. I think your comments are very shallow and your input without proper knowledge makes you look like you have no respect for yourselves or for those who have come such a long way in history.

By Corey

February 19, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

It’s time to let it go! It is much more enlightening to read and do research than rely on media snippets to gain perspectives on the history of a people. The reason whay too many blacks have an upside down view of their history is bbecause too many rely on Hollywood’s version. I saw the movie “Malcom X” befor I read the book. I swear I will never view anything Spike Lee ever does again.

By Class of 03

February 19, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

I think the month shouldn’t exist but I do feel that more than just the main African Americans should be taught in history. I am currently a senior in college (majority caucasian in deep south GA) and a lot of the African American students that attended majority white elementary, middle, and high schools know very little about black history. Me, coming from the Atlanta Public School system, I was always taught black history so I know quite a bit about it and I get a little upset when other african americans don’t know their history. To minimize the history telling to 28 days a year is demeaning and to only talk about the same 3 or 4 people in history is even worse.

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

It’s fitting that the whites on here would like to do away with Black History Month because as usual you display the inherent sense of entitlement that white Americans think they have. Of course you want to do away with Black history month…all of the images on television are white, black children don’t need to see images of themselves, that would be too much trouble. The month was instituted because the history books did not tell the truth. No, Blacks were not JUST slaves, they actually helped build and secure the country as a national SUPERPOWER and without blacks and other races, America would not be who she is today. So yeah, screw with the psyche of black children and do away with the one month that recognizes acheivement within the black diaspora. Or better else, teach kids the truth about Americas COMPLETE history every single month.

By Redneck

February 19, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

I am more concerned about the creeping socialism in our country right now. They are and always have been appeasers and as long as they control the government we are in danger of being over run over by the muslims.

By Herman

February 19, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

I think we desperately need to take this a few steps further. Why deprive the other minorities of their rights? I propose the following: Jan - Norwegian History Month. March - El Salvarian History Month. April - Icelander History Month. June - Iraqi History Month. July - Estonian History Month. August - Sri Lankan History Month. Sept - Haitian History Month. Oct - Libyan History Month. Nov - Peruvian History Month and Dec - Eskimo History Month. The problem with this country is that there is not enough paid to each individuals sensibilities. More political correctness will surely solve all our problems.

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Orlando and truth: You attack the writers, an ad hominem attack, but say little about the issue. Next week I’ll be in a Conference with Naomi Tutu, Desmond Tutu’s daughter and a race and gender activist. Before you label comments “shallow and without proper knowledge” you should be better informed. Just because someone may not agree with you doesn’t make them “idiots”.

By edge770

February 19, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

No.. causes more problems than solves. Let’s have US History month.. or Georgia History month.. It’s gone to point of being a ABC afterschool special with short attention span talking points.

By Mundy

February 19, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

The problem is Truth we are subjected to African American History every single day. Someone (dare I say “black”) is always screaming “racism” every day, they want repartations because their great-great-great grandfather was a slave. Then sit around crying all day long, because they are black and can’t get a job. Live off the government. Who needs a month to learn that lesson? Yes, blacks have come a very long way in history, but so have alot of other races. I don’t hear too much about Japanese History month, WHITE history month, etc……why do I need a month to have this crammed down my throat? Instead of Black History Month, why don’t we have “Tolerance” month? But then again, the way things are going, we’ll have “Hispanic History Month”…… Separate, but equal…..

By Shai

February 19, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

I dont know about you but learning about MY history even for 28 days actually enpowers and motivates me. And yes, knowing what black person invented the traffic sign is something I am interested in. It may not mean much to you but it means the world to me. Black history much details the Blacks whom made a difference in America…but I’m sure a few of you will rather not know or care….

By Alvin

February 19, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Last night I spent seven hours in the emergency waiting room at Crawforw Long Hospital while I waited for a friend to be examined by the doctor. CNN was on, and they were chronicling the life of MLK. All the poeple in the waiting room were black except for one white family. The two white boys were glued to the TV the entire time the program was on. When the parents moved across the room for better seating, one of the boys protested because he could not view nor hear the program from across the room. The blacks in the waiting room payed little or no attention to the program. Go figure.

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Mundy: You are clearly a racist and I wish I had the option to learn more about African American history than I did growing up in Georgia schools. But no, instead I learned about George Washington and other Confederate cronies and that Black people were slaves. White trash and Black trash are the same thing. Whites complain, Blacks complain. Whites are on welfare, Blacks are on welfare. Lazy is lazy no matter how you cut it. Every month is WHITE history month….

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Alvin: Yesterday I had a client with five children, on welfare receiving Medicaid…she was White, go figure.

By Orlando

February 19, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Please realize that black history month is not something that our govt came up with. It was a Black man named Carter Woodson, a Harvard Gradute that started this. So what if 1, out of 12 months we celebrate the achievements of black people, THAT WE ALL USE! If Hispanics want to start one for them, so be it, let them start it. We started it for us, it spread to mass America, and I am glad for it.

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Ms. Writer and Shai: You sound so defensive. If you need to study black history for your self esteem go right ahead. Also, study spelling and definitions, i.e., “acheivement within the black diaspora.” Achievement is not spelled correctly and it seems diaspora is used incorrectly. There is no such word as “enpowers”, perhaps you meant empowers.

By cee

February 19, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

From Negro to Colored to Black and now African how can one group of people be called so many different names and still yet celebrate Black history month? How can you celebrate something that you’re not or don’t want to be called? It is a true disgrace to be labled. America is the only country that gives people lable. I don’t lable myself I AM A WOMAN!!

By Orlando

February 19, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

History Prof, I am glad you are not my teacher. YOU can’t spell, acheivement???? Idiot.

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

History Prof: You went through the whole post trying to find something wrong didn’t you? Awwwww, that’s sweet, thanks for the help. You just proved my point…and as the dynamics of America change and you become the minority, maybe you will understand.

By Mundy

February 19, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Ms Writer I am the furthest thing from a racist I know. I’m just posting what others are thinking.
By the way, not that it’s anyone’s business, but my ex is black, and we have a child together. Racist, I think not!!!

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

A teacher’s perspective (since I don’t even want to touch some of the other issues being brought up today):

As part of Black History month, my school does a daily trivia question. I keep a running score of my answers versus my homeroom’s answers (BTW - I’m white, my HR has 6 Af.Am., 7 white, 5 Brazilian - NOT Hispanic, 3 Hispanic, and 6 Asian - Korean and Chinese). So far, I have 11 (I missed the first state to abolish slavery - Vermont - I thought Pennsylvania or Rhode Island due to the religious reasons behind their formation - I had one child guess GEORGIA!!! and not one of my foreign-born) and my kids have 3 - three!

What does that tell me? We need to do a better job teaching ALL history. It is difficult for some of my foreign-born students to understand the big deal behind it all.

BTW - September 15th - October 15th is Hispanic Heritage month - and we do trivia questions for that as well - why the 15th? It’s the anniversary of independence for several Latin American countries.

Also - traffic light? Garrett Morgan.

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Cee, your reasoning on not celebrating Black History month is ridiculous. One group of people can be called so many different names because that is what Blacks were labled. If it was up to many Southern bretheren, the infamous “N” word would still be used.

By md

February 19, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Mundy, with your last response, you just proved Truth’s point. That is exactly what most non-black cultures say about the AA community. You don’t have to have anything crammed down your throat. Turn off your TV, pick up a book, do whatever you want in order not to hear anything about Black History for 28 whole days. And guess what? There really is racism taking place EVERY day! But that really is not what this is about. I don’t think other races will ever really understand the culture of black people. It doesn’t even make sense to discuss this issue because so many minds are not open to recieve the truth.

By famucancer

February 19, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

Let me get this straight…..this isn’t a national holiday, no government agencies or private businesses close…..the problem is simply the acknowledgement thereof?? Are you kidding me? The whole “issue” is simply the acknowledgement of Black History?? Who in the world is so angst-ridden about seeing the words “Black History Month” on TV, in the newspaper, or on the radio? What physical, emotional, mental, financial or spiritual burden does this pose?? This is just hateful…..mad because you are “exposed” to Black History Month. How sad is that?

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

Mundy: That’s a shame, do you teach your child Black History? Because he/she will be considered black because of their interracial status. You of all people should understand how important it is. That’s a damn shame.

By Michelle

February 19, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

When exactly will “the job be done in Iraq?” 50 years from now when our Country is bankrupt? That’s what the Republicans have to offer.

By Lisa B.

February 19, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

I don’t need Black History month to teach about contributions made by Black Americans. My fourth grade students spend the entire school year studying historical contributions by Africans, Chinese, Scotts, Russians, Hispanics, etc. In reading, our class completes several Authors Studies on the works and backgrounds of writers from various ethnic backgrounds. In Science, students learn about inventions and discoveries made by people and scientists of many cultures. My hope is that my 4th graders learn that America is richer and more successful because of contributions made by people of all races. I do not restrict my teaching of Black History to the month of February. I don’t need Scottish History month, though Scottish contributions to America are largely ignored by history books.

I believe it is important to respect one another and work together to keep America great. A house divided will fall.

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Please excuse my tyrant, I lost my wife to a black man recently, so I am kinda bitter. I think black history is ok, but I can not think about it right now.

By Justine

February 19, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Mundy, you have removed all doubt. lol.

By David

February 19, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

I think this idea continues to hold back equality in this country. Black History month continues to create a difference, as well as referring to African Americans. If you live in this country, legally, why are we all not simply Americans? We all recognize the ethnic diversity of our population, but to single out “African” Americans simply continues to push the wedge issue.

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

md - one of the things about having such a wonderfully diverse group of kids is that it lets us talk about a lot of stuff from vastly different perspectives. We were talking about some of this stuff the other day, and someone said, “If we were all going to be honest, we’re ALL a little racist…”

Stunning words from a child - and most kids agreed. It was interesting.

Your statement, “I don’t think other races will ever really understand the culture of black people.” is true - but don’t you also think it’s true that you or I can’t completely understand the culture of Asian or Hispanic people? Or that men can understand what it’s like to be a woman?

Don’t let the ramblings of a few make you think we all feel that way.

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Lisa B: I agree with your style of teaching, but are ALL classrooms complying with that type of curriculum?

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Ms. Writer: Your written errors were quite obvious to the educated. BTW, I spent 20 years in Asia so don’t assume you can tell me about being a minority. You keep repeating your mistake of completely uninformed ad hominiem remarks (look up ad hominem in you English-Latin dictionary or you can borrow mine sometime). You do get the award for being the first to throw the “racist” label on someone. Now the discussion can degenerate from intellecual differences to ignorant name calling.

By Beretverde

February 19, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

It is a joke. When, at times because of the forced emphasis, more important relevant history is being “axed” out, and replaced by Alex Haley’s myths (partially admitted by him) stolen from the American Indian culture. The “rewriting” of history with the bias does no one, any good. Now I’ll be called a “racist” … again… a JOKE. On second thought, it might be a good idea…let’s have Irish-American History Month, and start it off with a “Paddy” Tale!

By Ms. Informed

February 19, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Here’s some little known information about “heritage/history” months in the United States, taken from www.census.gov(http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/factsforfeaturesspecialeditions/index.html)

-In 1990, President George H.W. Bush signed a joint congressional resolution designating November 1990 as “National American Indian Heritage Month.” -Congress proclaimed March as Irish-American Heritage Month in 1995

-In September 1968, Congress authorized President Lyndon B. Johnson to proclaim National Hispanic Heritage Week. The observance was expanded in 1988 to a monthlong celebration (Sept. 15 – Oct. 15).

-Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month: May

So it appears that the “major” cultural/racial groups are covered. If there are people who are not represented, then should petition for their “month.”

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Piggy-backing on Orlando’s comment, BTW, February was not chosen because it is the shortest month - it was chosen by Woodson (who originally had it as a week, and not a month) because both Abraham Lincoln AND Frederick Douglass were born in February - it was meant to commemorate both their contributions.

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

I like Black History Month just because it seems to make white folks mad. Look at em talking about why don’t we have Asian History Month, or Jewish History Month. Did any of your forefathers own Jews or Asians as slaves? You never complain about today being an all white President’s Day either do you? But man do I hear it about the King Holiday. Suck it up and shud da fugg up.

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

By History Prof

The below post is not mine. It was put there by some one else. The first sentence is grammatically flawed so the imposter needs to do a better job of faking educated comments. ha ha. History Prof

February 19, 2007 01:34 PM | Link to this

Please excuse my tyrant, I lost my wife to a black man recently, so I am kinda bitter. I think black history is ok, but I can not think about it right now.

By Don't Look Back

February 19, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

BHM needs to be done away with! Even in the Atlanta area - it is falling by the wayside. The local media just uses it as a feel good “space filler” - and nobody really pays attention to it. Let’s face it - BHM is still around because it is “politically correct”. Offer it as an elective at the high school and college level. To be quite frank - talk about it at church instead of lecturing on ways to use and exploit the (system) government.

We need to concern ourselves with socialism, illegal immigration, terrorism, and lack of individual character/personal responsibility. That’s more important than knowing who invented the traffic light.

Look forward - not back!

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

You and I know that being a White male in an Asian society is nothing like being a Black male in American society. What History courses are you teaching or did you bless yourself with that moniker?

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Mundy you’re a p****** fool. I qoute you here * Then sit around crying all day long, because they are black and can’t get a job.* Now, tell me Mundy, is it fair that a man can’t get a job just because of his skin color? You white folks created that problem so deal with it. And pretty soon your azz is gonna be crying too because all the jobs are going overseas, and those that are not overseas are here where Indians and Mexicans are taking over.

By Ally

February 19, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

As an African American person, I feel that African History Month should go away. If it is to stay then there should be a month for all other races. I don’t think that it’s necessary, it appears to only exist to prove some kind of point and I have never been quite clear on what that point is. I think that if you asked most African Americans in a poll should it go or stay, the majority would say let it stay and woudl make it a racial thing as the “man” being out to get us. We “get” ourselves enough. We don’t need a particular holiday to be recognized. Being good people by educating ourselves, being great contributors to all communities and by doing the right thing and not looking upon ourselves as victims..that is enough…

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Ms. Writer - you would actually be surprised at how much more inclusive all curricula and texts have become - you might try going to a local school and checking out some of the books in all subjects (I’m not being smart-alecky; I’m being sincere - you might be pleasantly surprised).

My science book includes interviews and articles from African-American, Hispanic, and Asian scientists. Our literature book includes folk-tales from all over the world. Illustrations are much more diverse - even the videos I use in class show diverse classrooms - check out a Magic Schoolbus - Ms. Fizzles class includes a Hispanic boy, Asian girl and African American girl - Malcolm Jamal Warner voice the character at the end who sets things straight scientifically.

It’s very different than it used to be, much more inclusive.

By Gadawg

February 19, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

The media and thousands of liberals in this country all claim that blacks are discriminated against. Bull S—t. There is a whole month deciated to blacks, they have their Ms black America, Ms. black Teen Age America, their black caucus in congress, their black coach’s association in sports. We have a month just for Mexicans, even though they are coming into our country illigally by the thousands. And to hell with every musulm on the face of this earth. Also, Damn the sorry leaders we have elected to serve us, but they turn it around and think we should serve them. All the crooked leaders in Washington who are there just for their own gain and when caught are sent off to be pampered. The state of Mass have continued to elect a murder to congress for God knows how long. I am an American and frankly I am tired and ashamed of what we call leaders in Washington. I say build a wall to close the Mexican border and shoot to kill any Mexican who crosses it. Bush nor any other leader have done a damn thing to stop the flow of Mexicans coming into our country. And again, to hell with all the muslims on the face of the earth. They will never be anything but animals they cut our soldiers heads off and noone says a damn thing but we get chastized by our own people for embarrassing those poor damn musulm prisoners. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

I have a need to justify myself as a result of the low self esteem that I experience as a white male. I apologize to any negroes that I have offended, I mean blacks, I mean, Afro Americans, I mean….

By Ed

February 19, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Remove all days, committees, caucuses, holidays, any and all things that separate one group from another, based on race, unless you do the same for all. How can we acheive true equality unless everyone is treated the exact same? This means doing away with quota’s, affrimative action, any organization race based. They are all outdated, racist and divisive and they teach people that you get something for free thats not afforded to everyone, just you because of your race. Equality is all about being equal, not receiving special treatment.

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

GANative - since I am a second generation Irish-American on both sides (all my GPs were born in Ireland), NONE of my ancestors had slaves - African-American, Asian, Jewish, or otherwise…although they were persecuted by the British.

Then again, maybe that’s why BHM doesn’t bother me.

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

GaDawg, the question is who DO you like?

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Ms. Writer: Are you qualified to make such an observation as quoted below or do you insist in repeating your assumption errors.
“You and I know that being a White male in an Asian society is nothing like being a Black male in American society.”
If you mean there were no Affirmative Action set asides or racial preferences for me in Asia you are quite correct. ha ha. Hey, time to go so enjoy your postings.

By thomas

February 19, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

I find it facinating that on topics like these, all kind of roaches seem to come out of the woodwork. People who never respond to this blog all of a sudden have something to say (hateful).

Most of us are unaffected by Black History Month, Hispanic History Month, Chinese New Year,Hanukkah, Kwanza, or any other kind ethnic or religious holiday or celebration. If someone wants to study black history in February, let ‘em be.

By Mundy

February 19, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Ms. Writer My kid is being raised white. My child lives with a white parent, is loved by her white grandparents, white aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. in a white environment.

Her black grandparents and family have made absolutely no attempt to contact her since her father abandonded us. They know where we live, and our phone number, but yet, nothing. Not even a birthday card. They have other mixed grandkids too from their other kids.

She knows her heritage, knows her father is black, however, her black father abandoned her, and last I heard, he had five other kids, with four other women.

She is also being taught “Tolerance” which is something you might want to look into.

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Looks like someone still likes to attempt to play the imposter but can’t even fake having the intelligence needed to do so. Once again, the below are not my postings: By History Prof February 19, 2007 02:00 PM | Link to this I have a need to justify myself as a result of the low self esteem that I experience as a white male. I apologize to any negroes that I have offended, I mean blacks, I mean, Afro Americans, I mean…. By History Prof February 19, 2007 02:03 PM | Link to this GaDawg, the question is who DO you like?

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

thomas - how are you? Nice to see another regular - I guess everyone else is smart enough to stay away today - and I agree with your comments :-)

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Mundy:You chose the Black man that you slept with. That is your fault. You brought your child into an environment with a sorry father, not me. Being raised “White”? What is that? You listen to Wille Nelson and line dance all day? Your child will soon learn that the faces she looks at love her, but they are not her own. People will treat her differently, because that is how ignorance works. You sound bitter, but YOU are the one who chose that sorry man to breed with, NOT ME!!

By Peri

February 19, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

AJC: Do you ever tire of race-baiting?!** Yawn. This bores me so — it’s always the same.

History Prof: In your posts, you doggedly chastised Ms. Writer for her grammar and punction errors. In one YOUR earlier posts, you said “… please forgive me for my tyrant…” I believe you mean TIRADE. Saddam was a tyrant — and Kim Jung Il is tyrant. Duh. History Prof.? Okay…

By AMISTAD

February 19, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

I DON’T JUST LIMIT IT TO ONE MONTH B/C IS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER HISTORY…..BLACK HISTORY IS EVERYDAY!!!! AND WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE IT AS SUCH.

By Ally

February 19, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Dear Mundy, although I sympathize with you and your daughter, being a deadbeat dad is not a black thing and has nothing to do with BHM. I applaud you for ensuring that your daughter learns about her heritage but I really hope that she isn’t recieving the message that black men are dead beat dads….that is a character flaw, not racial

By Jason

February 19, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

It should be done away with, its rediculous how much attention blacks get just for being black…they get their own colleges (itd be racist if there was an all white college)…their own scholarships for minorities…their own month (thank god its the shortest month of the year)…they want everything to be equal, its not gonna work if they keep wanting special attention because of the color of their skin…

By Justine

February 19, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

Oh ok, now I understand it… Mundy is bitter at black people because one dogged her out. Not all black men leave their children Mundy. Not all back men steal Mundy. Not all black men are lazy Mundy. Just like not all white men live in trailers, not all white men are named Bubba, not all white men are lying cheats…. Get my point?

By mo

February 19, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

I think Black history month is relevant due just to look at what a race of former institutionalized slaves have accomplished in a country that was hostile to them.

For me, black history is my history- so it is everyday. But to others, it is a testament to the strength of humanity.

By Peri

February 19, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Jason: It is called being a MINORITY.

By Just me

February 19, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Alley, your post was the most sensible one I’ve read here. AA’s have already excelled beyond their own expectations and the only ones that still dwell on the white man done this to us are the ones that don’t want anything in life to begin with & need something to blame it on. Dedicating a month to one race or another only promotes racism.

By robert

February 19, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Black History month is necessary until the history we are taught in our school system covers more than slavery and Martin Luther King.

Bridget, what do you know about black history?

By Mundy

February 19, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Ms. writer Yes, we do listen to Willie and line dance all day long. That’s what us white people do.
We certainly don’t complain that we can’t get a job because of the color of our skin. We don’t blame others for our lack of responsiblity for our own actions. And we certainly don’t blame ANYONE for keeping us down. We got off our butts and took care of our own responsibilities. Any other attacks you would like to make? I believe you are “judging” me by a few posts in a blog. TOLERANCE. Go look it up and get back to me on that one.

By what

February 19, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

The purppose of black history month or any other cultural awareness month was to celebrate the acheivements of the minority that are so often overlooked. Lest we forget that just 20+ years ago, Crispus Attucks was not even mentioned during the information about the American Revolution. These times are meant to encourage the self esteem of a group of people and educate other….As an african american, I always enjoy cinco de mayo, attend japanese festivals and native american events every chance I get. We should celebrate our diversity. It truly is what makes us unique as a people: White, Black, Brown, Yellow and Red.

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

Well personally, I am young, I don’t have any babydaddies (you are White right?), I am educated (on my parent’s ticket by the way not the United Negro College Fund)I am a property owner (at 26, and Black, Oh my God are you serious???)..I have a job, so no complaining here…you got off your back long enough to get a job? Wow! Nobody will keep me down, where are you getting this stuff from? Did you talk this way to you Black ex? Probably not until he left you. Mundy…Poof begone, you have no recourse to even chat with me…are you getting Peachcare for your kid? If so, you are no better than the lazy, shiftless black people that you speak of ONE OF WHOM YOU SLEPT WITH AND HAD A CHILD WITH SO HE WAS GOOD EHOUGH THEN WAS HE NOT? lmao..please

By History Prof

February 19, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Peri: Those of us who can read well would notice that the post with “tyrant” in it was not mine and I disavowed it on a subsequent posting on this blog. The imposter has used my name on several postings on this blog and each time I have pointed that out. Please try reading all the posts and informing yourself before writing erroneous things.

By Ken Roberts

February 19, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Why is it so important for us to know the race of each and every inventor? Can we not move beyond that? Rather than giving each and every race their own month of history, lets instead teach kids the importance of opening up books and doing a little research for themselves.

A few black people here have mentioned how they like knowing that a certain black person invented a certain device. The real problem as I see it is that these people imply that otherwise they would NOT have ever known this information. Are our kids only learning what we stick in front of their faces every day in class? If so, we’re in deep trouble. The most important thing to learn in school is how to teach yourself. If you want to know about the history of a specific race, go to Barnes & Nobles and open a book. Research it in the same way you would research anything else. Or for God’s sake, Google it!

By Dukes

February 19, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

How I long for the day when we can discuss issues without making it a racial debate. Why is it important for us to know that an African American created the prototype to the traffic light? If a young black child who lives in an economically depressed environment learns of it, he may be inspired to achieve beyond his limitations. While this would hold true of a child of any ethnic group, I would encourage it. There are so many negative imagaes facing children, why not give them positive role-models? The question may really be, Should we only target blacks in recognizing black history month, so as not to offend other ethnic groups? Oops!! I gone the way of making it racial.

By Ally

February 19, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Robert, I have to disagree with you. “Black History month is necessary until the history we are taught in our school system covers more than slavery and Martin Luther King.” It is our responsibilty to teach our children their history. My history doesn’t tie in to BHM, it ties into my family..My heroes are AA people that have made a difference in MY life..My dad, who worked a full time and a part time job and went to college while I was growing up to make a better life for us..A man that insisted that we speak proper english and do right by everyone..My history is based upon MY ancesters..Come on fellow African American people..There have not been any opportunities in life that were not afforded to us because of our skin…I don’t want 40 acres and a mule, I want and have a great job that offers me 401K, education reimbursement, etc.. Nothing holds us back but us, we need to find something else to talk about..

By JustMe

February 19, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

This is a test posting….

By Justine

February 19, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Hist prof, I thought you were gone!!!! I find it humorous that you stick around to validfy yourself. Poor soul.

By Just me

February 19, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

I personally hate any reason for my bank to close!!! Especially on commission direct deposit day.

By adrien

February 19, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Black History Month needs to be abolished for one reason. If we are to see those important Black people in history as we see George Washington, Abe Lincoln or any other White historical figure, we need to incorporate that history in with all other lessons of great leaders and not say that are great because they are black, but great because they lived extraordinary lives and helped others to do so as well

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Justine: He is staring at the screen looking for typos.

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Ally:I understand and agree with you, but I am also a taxpayer. Should my tax dollars not go into teaching my child (when I have one) something relevant about African-American history other than slavery?

By Jason

February 19, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

i say hang em or ship em back, they have their own month, let them have their own continent…

By Dookie-Boy

February 19, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Yowsuh…i b pickinz cotton…

POOT in ya face.

By Gail

February 19, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

What a lot of people fail to understand is that ALL races need Black History month. While a lot of blacks have been sadly ignorant concerning our own history, a lot of other races are ignorant of it as well.

Unfortunately in today’s society, we have plenty of negative black stereotypes in the media to show the “contributions” of black people in this country. Whites, and other races, should be exposed to the real, and positive, contributions of black people in this country in particular.

I think that some of the racism of whites towards blacks in America is related to their lack of exposure about the contributions of black people. I say, Let Them Learn!

Also, to the person who made the comment about current textbooks, you’re right — I have kids in school and their textbooks are incredibly more inclusive than the ones I had in school 30 years ago.

By Ally

February 19, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Ms. Writer. I do agree that your tax dollars should go into revelant black history lessons in the classroom. But I think that at the end of the day, we should teach our children about our history. I think that our society has rehearsed this month and the teachings in our communitites and society so much that if you ask a child who do they think about or write about during BHM, they will all say “MLK, Jr., Frederick Douglas, etc. Although they were great leaders, there is so much history in your family and in mine that our children should know about. I think that the way that these heros are described and rehearsed in the classrooms, probably sound more like “stories” to our children. We have to be responsible to teach about our own history and what we are doing today. We our are history and by doing the right thing, we should be our own heroes.

By Charles

February 19, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Black History Month: Relevant Or Nonsense?

Considering what African American are doing today, black history month is nonsense. If African Americans were consciously interested in black history, most of them would be dedicated to the task of building a positive history by way of institutions today to give real connections to the past, present and the future. Reminiscing about the past without institutional support is akin to astronauts dreaming of the heavenly bodies not having NASA or space vehicles and the like to make the thinking meaningful; just recounting the heavenly bodies has little value. People are not serious about discovering a history past or present if they do not construct the institutions to make that history real.

Independent Institutions only will right the wrongs of the past, and stand guard for the present and the future against people of ill will which are most often within and sometimes outside of an ethnic group.

By antonio

February 19, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Many claims about slavery are inaccurate. Actually less than 5% of blacks in this country during slavery, were slaves. Most people don’t know history period and make it up as they go and that goes for Black and White.

By Lisa B.

February 19, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

As part of basic education, students need to be familiar with historical figures, inventors, political leaders, etc., and their impact or contributions. These people come from various races and backgrounds. Students need to understand they can impact and contribute to our future, irregardless of their races or backgrounds. Students should also understand sacrifices people have made for our society, and the work taken to prepare to make contributions.

By Ally

February 19, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Ms. Writer..And yes, more should be taught in the classes than just about slavery. Yes!

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Quoting Jason..”It should be done away with, its rediculous how much attention blacks get just for being black…they get their own colleges (itd be racist if there was an all white college)…their own scholarships for minorities…their own month (thank god its the shortest month of the year)…they want everything to be equal, its not gonna work if they keep wanting special attention because of the color of their skin”

Now he’s gotta be a product of the 80’s there is no way he can sit there making those kinda statements without realizing that federal troops had to escort blacks to his white universities in Arkansas, Alabama and Mississippi. In his case he really needs 12 months of black history.

By Orlando

February 19, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

LOL, Antonio gets the laugh of the day blog! What are you smokin dude? Where in hell did you get that stat from?

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Got Dammit Jason, we had our own continent until you guys were do lazy to build your own Dayum Country, so you brought us here.

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

LOL, I caught that stupid statistic too Orlando*. Maybe he meant only 5% of slaves were named Kunta.

By Tradub1906

February 19, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

As much as I would like to disagree, I would have to agree. We always speak of equality, now its time to let our actions speak as opposed to our existence being validated by some lousey 28 days. If we have a Blk History Month, every group that claims to be a minority should have a month too. Hell, we’ll even trade Feb w/ them. Give us a month w/ 31 days in it, lol.

By Jason

February 19, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

GayNative im referring to Morehouse college, Clark Atlanta, Morris Brown (colleges here in Atlanta) where they cater to blacks and reject whites…Morehouse’s (4 year private college) statistics states that in 2004 undergraduate enrolees consisted of 100% black non-hispanic men. Giving them all kinda of scholarships because they are BLACK. Your saying that if I started a college to where I would only allow white men and give them all kinda of scholarships because they are white, that it wouldnt be racist???? You damn well know the NAACP, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and every other civil rights wanna be activist would screaming the “race card” at the top of their lungs on the streets of D.C. and MLK street here in Atlanta…tell me Im wrong…and yes i was born in the 80’s, 86 to be exact…

By Michelle

February 19, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

I wondered how long it would be before someone brought up slavery. Let it die, would you? That was hundreds of years ago. Where would Black people be today if their ancestors were not brought to this country? Has anyone seen the living conditions in Africa recently? Famine, genocide, AIDS, stop living in the past and be grateful for the present.

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

This teacher is giving you all homework:

Go rent the movie “Crash” - it was last year’s winner for the Best Picture Oscar. It will make you laugh; it will make you cry; it will make you cringe, and it will make you think.

It will make you question your assumptions about ALL of us - our stereotypes and our prejudices.

From what I’ve found, traveling to other countries, we as Americans are woefully inadequate about our own history of ANY race/ethnicity - and dismally ignorant of issues that concern world history and politics.

I guess we’re too busy worrying about the paternity of Anna Nicole’s baby and Britney Spear’s bald head.

By Kea

February 19, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Perfect Example. My son is bi-racial (Puerto Rican, Italian, and Black). I want to teach my son everything there is to know regarding Black History. I want him to know about his people. African Americans. I will not depend on someone else (school, society) to teach him this. He will learn this from his Proud African American mother. However, his father feels the exact same way I do on teaching our song about his Puerto Rican Heritage, and his Italian Heritage. He also wants him to be proud of his roots…all of them. I agree!! Yes, I expect that when my son attends school that he will learn about black history…but not just in February. All year long, along with Asian History, Hispanic History, and White History. BHM is very important to ME, and MY family. In my opinion, there should be a Black History Month!

By Ally

February 19, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Dear luvs2teach, I love it. Good points!

By Georgia

February 19, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Luvs2teach Excellent advice. “Crash” was the best movie regarding sterotypes. It certainly changed the way I look at all kinds of people. Awesome, Awesome movie and I too recommend everyone should see it.

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Jason, you’re wrong my man. The black universities don’t exclude whites. Most whites just don’t want to go there. Open your eyes and see reality. Google Tennesse State University Softball, Alcorn State University Softball. These are part of what they call HBC’s (Historically Black Colleges). Notice that most of the players are WHITE GIRLS. They’ve found a niche in getting their education paid for by playing ball at these black universities.

By staff

February 19, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

The reason why we can’t move on as a society is beacause we are having a discussion on the importance of BHM. Being a black male, I understand the importance of Black history, but to have a month dedicated tomeis insulting. Do you not feelas though the month is only here to placate those who wouldotherwise complain that black people to not get their fair shake. While it is true that their our someforms of racism still alive, can you blame some of them. Sometimes I hate my own race. We are characterized as lazy because the vast majority are. While I agree that we have struggled, it is time for us to uplift ourselves, and not worry about having our own month. I’ve learn, there is no way you can complain about what you don’t have, if you don’t try and attain it.

By 911

February 19, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

…well is presidents day relevant?columbus day,we even celebrate Santa clause & halloween! Can we at least have MLK & Black history month? Like others have said if the history books would include black history besides slavery & MLK then there would not be a need for bhm.Instead kids are fed lies like Columbus discovered America!

By Gail

February 19, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Amen, Luvs2teach. Great comment!

By Peri

February 19, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

to the REAL History Prof: Excuse my post, then. Apologies.

By dektea

February 19, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

i echo famucancer.

there is asian american month, latino american month, but black history month gets the most exposure because blacks do the most lobbying for it to be so. been stolen from your native land, reduced to comodity, name and history gone, deepest thought of heritage and culture gone…and to share just that with for 28 days of the year for some to be so annoyed is beyond me. what do the native american have to say the white establishment controls everything, that they have taken from the native americans. remember they said they came for religious freedom, but immediately started to sell parts of the land in the new england regions. dare you come to complain about 28 days of black history. you owe the native americans, foolish compaining about black history month.

By I'm white and we're wrong

February 19, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

For more than 300 years on this continent black people were either enslaved literally, or figuratively by blatant, legalized discrimination. It’s very recent history that blacks have had a real shot at reaching equality and we see progress all the time. We’re still not completely healed folks. And as a white person and I mean we as a society including blacks and whites. Can’t we set aside this quilt-based white assault against black history month and just use it as a chance to learn something and be appreciative of the contributions of our African American brothers and sisters?

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Hey 911, I’ll even celebrate Klu Klux Klan Day if they’re gonna give me a day off. :)

By Ms. Writer

February 19, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Michelle you are an idiot…an idiot who has fallen victim to the American press…In essence you are saying that African Americans should be greatful that families were separated, people (white and black mind you) killed? Were you waiting on someone to bring up slavery so you could make a comment? Africa does not just consist of AIDS patients…Africa has buildings and cars and computers wow! can you beleive that?

By keith

February 19, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

1st of all, black history month is still relevant in today’s s society. It is a month to remind all of us all of the important contributions that my people have made to society. It is a month to honor us as black people. Don’t any of you forget what we black people have went through in this country called the united states. We deserve to be honored. We as a people have come a long ways. We have struggled, and to some extent, there are many more obsticles that we must over come. Today, there are many blacks in tv, movies, public office, and in many other positions that we weren’t aloud to hold back then. We have had many accomplishments, invented many things, won awards, etc, etc. All of society should honor a people that are very strong, and have been through so much. we should honor DR. Martin Luther and Corretta Scott king, and the entire civil rights movement, all of the black educators, black actors and entertainers, etc, for their important contributions to our society and culture. This is our month and we really deserve it. So, yes, Black History month is still Revelant in today’s society and we should have it. As a matter of fact, it should be more than just a month long celebration.

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Ms. Writer, I think Michelle’s view of Africa is what she see on the Tarzan Movies. LMAO. She needs a History Lesson period. Hey Michelle, maybe if you had left my azz in Africa, I might be a Medical Doctor in Nigeria today.

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Insurgents staged a bold daylight assault against a U.S. combat post Monday — first striking with a suicide car bombing, then firing on soldiers pinned down in a former Iraqi police station. At least two soldiers were killed and 17 wounded, the military said.

And they’d rather have Bush with his INCREASED BODY BAG PRODUCTION than Hillary? White Folks are Crazy.

By Ally

February 19, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

I disagree Keith.Honoring those that came before us should be a way of life and not by a mere 28 days of reflection. We should honor those that risked their lives for AA people by stopping the black on black crime. By putting our dollars into the King Center so that it won’t go to the Government..by educating ourselves, respecting ourselves, our communities, staying off drugs, stopping teen pregnancy, eradicating illiteracy, mentoring our youth, etc…These are a few things that we can do to honor ourselves as human beings and those that sacrificed for us….

By Peri

February 19, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Michelle: …so, in your opinion, American Blacks should be grateful to be have been forcibly taken from Africa; to endure horrible conditions on slave vessels; and enslaved for 200 years because now they don’t live in Africa amidst poverty, hunger and the AIDS epidemic??? Okaaaaaayyyyy… . Are you for real?! Maybe those conditions wouldn’t even exist if slavery of Africans never happened…

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Yep Peri, that’s exactly what she thinks. It’s that white mentality thing.

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Peri, one more reason whey Michelle thinks we should be grateful. See America does not have * Poverty, Hunger or the Aids Epidemic*.

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

Slavery no longer uses chains and whips. Slavery is now economic. My high school senior got a rude awakening about taxation when she got her first job recently. Now that it’s time to fill out the tax return she asked me this morning “Why do I have to do that if they’ve already taken what they wanted”?.. I snickered and said “Well now you fill out this tax return so that they can decide if they are gonna let you have some of that they took book, or if they are gonna take some more”.

By Teacher Teacher

February 19, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

It’s very telling that a number of blacks still only view themselves as being black and not as people. For a color blind society to exist, people need to see people and not colors. Just the concept of wanting Black History Month for “my people” or “contributions of people who look like me” negates those contributions and those people to just their race. I loved it when Super Bowl-winning Coach Dungy stated at the end of the game when pressed by the white announcer about his feelings about being the first African-American coach to win the Super Bowl, he stated that what was more significant to him was that he was a Christian and that two Christian coaches had battled one another. Now that’s the attitude.

Black history should not be separate from history, and neither should Hispanic history or Asian history or any of it. We stand together, or we fall together.

America must be a land of Americans, not a land of white ones and black ones and hispanic ones and arabic ones and asian ones blah blah blah.

Go beyond the skin color. See people for what they are INSIDE.

By jim d

February 19, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.”

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.

Unfortunately 45 years later bigots on both sides of the issue continue to prevent that deam day from happening

Why can’t we all just learn to be brothers and sisters and put all these racial issues to rest? It’s not really that difficult if we’d each do our part!

Mr. King had a dream. We are passing up an opportunity to make that dream a reality in our lifetimes. What a shame.

By Mundy's Baby Daddy

February 19, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

GA Native

I promise that I am not Ms. Writer, just a lurker who scanned the blog and saw some nonsense.

By Jeff

February 19, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

We will never move to realize Dr. King’s dream until we realize that race CANNOT be an issue in ANYTHING.

People are People. (Period)

If you make an issue of “a black man did this” or “an asian woman did that”, you are only preserving racial hostility, even if you had the most noble of intentions.

BTW: I DO agree that Black History Month had (has????) noble intentions. But we can look no further than NCLB to find that just because something had noble intentions at one time is it beneficial to its overall goal now.

By RJ

February 19, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

If the contributions of African Americans in helping build America is integrated into the curriculums of all public schools then its relevance as a stand alone month is questionable.

By Jeff

February 19, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Teacher Teacher and jimd:

AMEN!!!

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

Well Teacher Teacher, I’m reminded of my color all the time. Not blatantly, but in a subtle way in most cases. Now I know you haven’t been pulled over by the cops in one of those little South Georgia towns with a person of a different race sitting next to you in the front seat, have you? Well the first thing the cop said was “Boy, whare you goin with Miss Daisy sitting here in da front seat”?

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

GaNative - then I guess the economic slavery is color-blind, ‘cause I’ve paid my fair share and then some this year…

By Mundy's other baby daddy( still waiting for paternity test)

February 19, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Don’t know who that other brother is that says that he is Mundy’s baby daddy..I’m that youngin pappy! ALthough the paternity test is still pending!!!

By Lance A. Dodd

February 19, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

When do the first American get their month, the only time we are thought of is at Thanksgiving. Blacks want money for reparation, we just want our mother back. There is no monetary amount that can be put on what this country did to out ancestors and culture. There is not enough apologies for all the treaties broken by this government. We want the world to know America as the melting pot, and I guess we are the fuel for the fire. The day is coming and the time is near when even the most powerful men, of this country will seek the wisdom of my ancestor. And the only sound they will hear is the wind, even then they will not understand.

By Lance A. Dodd

February 19, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

When do the first American get their month, the only time we are thought of is at Thanksgiving. Blacks want money for reparation, we just want our mother back. There is no monetary amount that can be put on what this country did to out ancestors and culture. There is not enough apologies for all the treaties broken by this government. We want the world to know America as the melting pot, and I guess we are the fuel for the fire. The day is coming and the time is near when even the most powerful men, of this country will seek the wisdom of my ancestor. And the only sound they will hear is the wind, even then they will not understand.

By Lance A. Dodd

February 19, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

When do the first American get their month, the only time we are thought of is at Thanksgiving. Blacks want money for reparation, we just want our mother back. There is no monetary amount that can be put on what this country did to out ancestors and culture. There is not enough apologies for all the treaties broken by this government. We want the world to know America as the melting pot, and I guess we are the fuel for the fire. The day is coming and the time is near when even the most powerful men, of this country will seek the wisdom of my ancestor. And the only sound they will hear is the wind, even then they will not understand.

By J.B.

February 19, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Ya’ll so crazy…get back to work!!

By Lance A. Dodd

February 19, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

When do the first American get their month, the only time we are thought of is at Thanksgiving. Blacks want money for reparation, we just want our mother back. There is no monetary amount that can be put on what this country did to out ancestors and culture. There is not enough apologies for all the treaties broken by this government. We want the world to know America as the melting pot, and I guess we are the fuel for the fire. The day is coming and the time is near when even the most powerful men, of this country will seek the wisdom of my ancestor. And the only sound they will hear is the wind, even then they will not understand.

By Lisa B.

February 19, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

jim d.

When I was in my early 20’s I thought we’d realize the “dream” by now. Sadly, I don’t think we’ll realize MLK Jr.’s dream in my lifetime.

At the beginning of this school year, one of my 4th grade boys told me he hates white people, and didn’t want to sit with any white children. He and I have been able to work together this year, but he still won’t associate with the white students. We’ve talked all year about associating with good people, and avoiding bad people, and that good and bad people can be found in every race and religion. I haven’t had much success with overcoming the boy’s hatred.

I really thought we’d be past all this by now. Sigh.

By Momodou Jallow

February 19, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Black history has made it possible for me to understand the pain and suffering my great grand fathers went through. so, it is relevant.

By GaNative

February 19, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

There will never be EQUALITY in America. White Folks won’t allow it. Here on my job, the Indians can congregate in the Break Room and talk that Shid in their native tongue for nearly an hourly and it’s invisible to the whites in charge. But the minute a few blacks go in there and do that, you get pulled over and given that speech about how it’s NOT BUSINESS RELATED OR NONE PRODUCTIVE. It’s like the Indians have WORKERS IMMUNITY or something.

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

Lance - Native American History month is November (I guess we figured it was just easier to make it in the same month as Thanksgiving).

By Teacher Teacher

February 19, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Actually, GA Native, I was born and raised in a small town in South Georgia. I graduated from high school in 1976. In 1975 while driving around town in my hot little Mustang, I saw a pregant black female who had been in my homeroom but who had been expelled from school once it was determined she was pregnant walking from the only grocery store in town (a Piggly Wiggly) with two big bags of groceries. Not thinking a thing about it, I stopped, got her in my car, and took her home, carried her groceries in her house for her, and drank a Coke with her and her sister. It was not fifteen minutes before my mother was in her Galaxy 500 driving all over the place looking for me. My car was taken from me by my mom, and I was beaten by my dad. Honestly, I did not even think a thing about her being black. All I saw was a pregnant female walking with a lot of groceries in the hot sun.

Going forward many, many years, after I escaped that small town and went to UGA, I had the opportunity to experience an even greater variety of people, and for the past fifteen years, I have been involved intimately with a black person. I don’t even think about the color, just the person. We have a great laugh when, in 2006 at Lenox Mall of all places, we were subjected to the mortifying comments about whites and blacks mingling by blacks in the food court!

Don’t assume. You know what that makes you.

People need to get beyond the color of their skin and get into the personality beneath the skin.

By VJ

February 19, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

How many watched the SUPER BOWL????

Black History

By luvs2teach

February 19, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Lisa B. - at my first school, which was predominantly African-American, it took a long time for the kids to see past the color of MY skin. It wasn’t until they got to know me that they realized I had more in common with them than you might think. What was tough was that an African-American teacher that they didn’t know, would automatically get accorded more respect that it took me months to earn - lesson to all: don’t assume that we all can’t relate - it may not be identical circumstances, but that doesn’t invalidate the experience.

Most painful situation? I had to have a conference with a parent who was upset because she felt like I was “favoring the white students” in her daughter’s class. I was so upset, racking my brain, trying to figure out what I could’ve possibly done to give her that impression…then it dawned on me: I didn’t have ANY white students in that class. The mom’s reaction, upon hearing that? “Well, it must have been the other white teacher.”

We ALL have a ways to go. Watch “Crash.”

By me

February 19, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

regardless if you think it is relevant…it is relevant to African Americans…we need to know about the oppression that we went through..not only us but Jews, Native Americans and I can go on and on…If you don’t think it is relevant then tune it out…otherwise…Enjoy and learn something new!!!

By me

February 19, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

God Bless all the intelligent people who spoke on this…and God Bless you fools too…

By Corey

February 19, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

For the people who are screaming that black colleges will not admit whites. Whites are not interested in attending black colleges just as whites refuse to live in a black neighborhood regardless of income level and education level of blacks in that community. All of these black colleges and universities are named after white men and women, Howard, Morehouse, Spellman(Rockefellar’s wife’s maiden name) etc. Also take time to find out who serves on the boads of trustees of these schools - a good number of white men. Now, if these schools were so racist, don’t you think that they would change their names and name them after prominent blacks. Don’t you think these “racist” students would be protesting to rid their schools of white board members. Racism clouds our common sense and diminishes our humanity. Pathetic isn’t it.

By mmm

February 19, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

It has to start with dialog—-if agreement isn’t possible yet. At least the sharing of perspectives and personal stories is a start.

By bmw

February 19, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

The idea of not printing a story on Black History Month is ridiculous and demonstrative of why The Atlanta Journal is releasing a portion of its editorial staff. (Saturday letter from publisher) I did not realize the contributions of African Americans to American history until I was a Junior in high school. The truth of American History is not taught in our schools. So, yes we should celebrate Black History Month, Asian History, Latin American History so the truth can be shared and appreciated. As our cities and communities across the country and Metro area continue to become diversified, it is quite relevant that children of all races have an appreciation for all cultures. Someone should start the Native American month! Research their history to see how poorly they were treated by white America. The television and the majority of advertising is designed to support the caucasion race as the race of choice. This is a problem for African American Professionals like me who inform their children they can achieve. The image is not reinforced on tv,cable or in the school. Kudos to America for celebrating African American History Month, Latin American Month and Asian American Month. It appears the majority cannot handle the truth but we are obligated to share it!

By jan

February 19, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

For someone to say that there is nothing significant about BLACK HISTORY is ludicrous,black people have been a part of the history of this great earth since the beginning of time(please read your BIBLE).Furthermore black history should be a part of curriculum period because there were a lot of significant contributions made by blacks but the credit was ripped from them by others and I do not have to explain that part I am sure.So we should have black history discussed in all schools and not just WESTERN EUROPEAN history.One month of a year is not at all fair and there should be some kind of movement to make it possible,maybe it will open a few eyes around the world and especially in the school systems of GEORGIA.Get over the fact that black people are here to stay and everyone should give due credit.Stop hating!!!

By bronco

February 19, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

How about Eskimo history. They’ve been here a long time

By Vexorg

February 19, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

When a white person can walk in black neighborhood at any time of day or night without fearing for their safety - then we will have racial equality…..

When a black man can walk through a white neighborhood at any time of day or night and not be suspected of having criminal intentions - then we will have racial equality…..

When a white person will be regarded as having made it on their own and not because of “priviledge” - then we will have racial equality…..

When a black person will be regarded as having made it on their own and not because of liberal/communist affirmitive action programs and other such failed socialist experiments - then we will have racial equality…..

When BOTH races start to learn to work towards a productive future for ALL and stop holding each other responsible for the sins of their forefathers - THEN we will finally have racial equality! Until then, both races have mutual enemies that are enjoying watching us destroy each other over this divisiveness!

By Fish Eater = Eskimo

February 19, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

Bronco,

What a racist you are! Eskimo is the n-word for Innuit! I am so shocked and disgusted by your blatant racism!

By Beretverde

February 19, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

The MOST important day in Black History Month… The day O.J. was “found” NOT GUILTY, and the celebration in the Black Community! What a joke!

By bronco

February 19, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry Fish Eater…the filet and red wine I had for dinner relaxed me and my true feelings surfaced.

By cy

February 19, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

at one thime it was. i think in the past 10 years all text books have been updated to depict black history as well as all history. i also think that with the internet it is pretty well covered.

i think it would children and adults a better service to turn the energy off of the history and more to the health problems. i dono think that children esp. those of black decent realize what their diet is doing for their future. it is time to move to the future and leave the past in the classrooms.

By juustine

February 19, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Black History month has turned out to be a failure in explaining the Black experience. Instead we have continued to get a program which is watered down and acceptable to whites without telling the whole story. By way of example every year we hear the I Have a Dream speech. However no one tells that that was only a portion of what Dr. King spoke of that day. There is little is any discussion of Dr. King’s Letter from a Birmingham Jail or his stand against the Viet Nam war and his concern about going economic problems accepting the poor Black and White There is also no talk about the positive impact of such groups in the 1960s of SNCC, the Black Panther Party and Mississippi Freedom Party and other such groups. Nor is there any mention of the accomplishments of Black prior to our arrival in this Country.

By Michelle

February 20, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

No, I don’t believe Slavery was a good thing, no I don’t think Black people should be grateful that their ancestors were brought here, only that they live here and not in some of the most disgusting living conditions in the known world today. All I’m saying is don’t exploit what your ancestors went thru for your own personal gain.

By WFC

February 20, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Justine…I’m a retired 30-year veteran history teacher. If what you say is true about the topics not taught, it is evidence of poor “history” teaching and not just a “Black history” issue. I taught all of those topics in depth and much more in my U.S. history classes. How about comparisons of the ideas of King and Malcom X, Dubois and Washington, the Pullman strike, the Harlem Renaissance, Plessy vs. Ferguson, Jim Crow laws, the activities of the Klan, the role of churches in African-American culture and much more. I integrated all of this and much more into my American history classes. African-American history is an important part of American history but it’s only a part of a very big picture.

By KA

February 20, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

I would like to see each month of the year, or each week, dedicated to a different ethnic or cultural group. In the metro Atlanta area, and especially in Gwinnett, where I live, we have residents who have come from every corner of the earth. I think we all would benefit from learning more about all of our neighbors.

By In the Scheme of Things..

February 20, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

I believe it’s important to have role models for all young people to look up to!! I would rather we have an “American Role Model Month”.

On that note, whatever happened to being just an American instead of qualifying what ‘kind’ of American we are? I am proud to be an American!! To me an American can come from anywhere and represent any group. So saying you’re an American means a lot!!

Isn’t what the country was founded upon?

By Ronnie B

February 20, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

Is American history still relevant?

By Rashima

February 20, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

I agree Black History month should be stopped. The contribution that African Amercian made to this country should be studied EVERY DAY in every text book in America not just in February. The inseption of Black history month was to try to right a wrong to a race of people who have been stripped from the very fabric of a country that they literally helped build. Until main stream media and main stream America can learn to appericate all of it’s History then and onl

By Jeff

February 20, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

We raise up a generation (actually two, since much of the history I am about to speak of was NEVER something I heard about in class… at ANY level) that has no idea about much of the following: (Note: I’m going to put an @ after every entry that we did NOT discuss. Some on this list we did in fact discuss when I was in school, but when talking to current high school seniors, they have NO CLUE ABOUT.)

Discuss the issues surrounding the Declaration of Independence. Describe the attitudes of both sides, and state who you agreed with and why.@

Discuss the issues involved in the writing of the Constitution. (THAT sentence we talked about. the next sentence we did not!) Describe James Madison’s position and Thomas Jefferson’s. State who you agreed with and why.@

Discuss “separation of church and state”. Where does this come into the lexicon? Explain how the various Founding Fathers felt.@

What was the central issue in Marbury v Madison? Explain the preceding events and why this Supreme Court case is so important.@

Describe the War of 1812, including the events that led to it and the results of the war. Discuss the importance of the Battle of Baltimore and the Battle of New Orleans.@

Discuss Andrew Jackson and his role in American History.@

Discuss the political climate of the 1850’s. Could war have been prevented at any point in this decade?

Discuss the repercussions of the North’s victory as it relates to the South.

When did the welfare state begin? Describe its foundations both from a political and cultural standpoint.@

Discuss Theodore Roosevelt’s life in service to this country.@

Why was America hesitant to enter World War I? Describe the events that finally turned America’s intention towards entering the war.

Discuss the events of the 1920’s and how they led to the Great Depression.

Discuss 1930s life in America. Why was America hesitant at this time to enter the brewing war in Europe?

Discuss American strategy in World War II. How did the war’s outcome affect American life from 1945 - present?

Discuss McCarthyism. How did it start? Why did it finally end?

What events of the 1950s led to the social turmoil of the 1960s? How did the events of the 1960s bleed over into the 1970s?@

Discuss the political climate of the 1950s, 60’s, and 70’s and how it led to a former actor becoming the President in 1980.@

Discuss the events that led to American military action in Panama and Grenada.@

Discuss the Presidential Election of 1992.@

Discuss the Clinton Presidency in terms of domestic issues.@

Discuss the Presidential Election of 2000.@

(Note that while I was in school, the last two events were happening. I personally deem a buffer period of 5 years from the present to be “history”, but I’m not an actual historian, so if any come here with a different number I am open to discussion!)

By Tray

February 20, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Black History month is racist in itself. There are no ther history months for a particular race, why do black get special treaetment? Oh, yeah, because they were wronged a while ago. Well, if that’s the case where is Indian history month? The NAACP is the most racist group i have seen, they do not work on the Advancement of Colored People!!! They complain about everything that doesn’t go their way! What about the United Negro College Fund?? That’s racist, Whites, Arabics, Indians, Canadians, whoever cannot apply for it unless they are black?? How is THAT not discrimination?

By Bambi

February 20, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Guess what? Where I work (the government) we DO have Asian American month, Pacific Islander month, Hispanic American month, International Fest, but no poor white trailer trash month. Can we celebrate MY ancestors?

By Ken

February 20, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

I read all of your comments about Black History Month. When I was growing up, I had several friends that were Black and never thought of them being any different than I was, since we grew up in rural Georgia and poor. We helped each other in whatever way we could. We visited with each other and when someone was sick, my Mother took food and when we were sick, they did the same. During that time, there was no Black or White or any other color. I guess the way I look at it is when I die, and go into Heaven, God will look at all us as equal and there will be no Black History month, No flag that anyone will see, nothing that will be upsetting to anyone. So what I say is make the best of what you have, get over the past and look to the future, and pray that God watches over us until he decides that enough is enough, and takes us to Heaven and those that are not saved by God’s tender love, will be spending forever in a devil’s hell. God bless you regardless if you are White, Black, Green, or Purole.

By wwww

February 20, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Wow.

I agree that having different times set aside for the history of different races seems silly. It should be taught together, under the umbrella of US History.

Like it or not, no matter how you or your ancestors came here, now we all have to live together. And each history should all be treated with the same importance.

After reading the comments on this blog, I am depressed. There are bigots on both sides of the fence, all with the same rabid enthusiasm for their agendas. Personally, I don’t care who has Peachcare, medicaid, smokes crack, meth, lives in a trailer, etc. We all know there is some truth in a stereotype. But it doesn’t have to mean we accept it, or even be bothered by it. If it doesn’t apply to you, then move on with life.

By Marc

February 20, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

For so long the contributions of great african-americans were not told.Generations grew up not knowing about those who did and gave so much to the world. it’s not about race it’s about education and truth.

By Dave

February 20, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

The more we have things targeted to one group the more we are dividing ourselves. I think we need to do away with anything that points out one race as different from another. We don’t need BET or anything else. I would hate to know that they came up with a channel called WET. I would be embarrased. We should all be considered AMERICANS, not Asian Americans, not African Americans, Not Hispanic Americans. Just Americans will suffice. We should appreciate our diversity and celebrate our common love for freedom. Will we ever live in an ideal world where we look at the substance of a person and not their ethnic makeup? I hope so.

By Meezy

February 20, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Many of you don’t get it. The comments on this blog shows the very reason why black history needs to be recognized. The fact that many of you do not realize that native africans stolen and sold from their home country paved the way for many of the nationalities that are in america and are successful today. However blacks were the race that went through the struggle that eventually concluded in integration of all races in America.

Reparations? Hilarious. The fact that Norv Turner gets his 3rd head coaching job while Mike Singletary is used as the token interview displays that the United States has a long way to go when we want to speak about equality.

By zeke

February 20, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

GO AWAY! This is about as relevent as the legislative black caucus’, miss black whoever, first black or first woman to be whatever, first hispanic to be whatever, fist black coach wherever and all the others! These type ridiculous things promote racial divides in a country where all the liberals say that we should be a color, race and gender blind society! Well, if we continue to promote race, color or gender in all things, we will never be that society! Starting with the census. There should be no color, national origin, race or gender questions that put us into a divided society!

By Kimberly

February 20, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

We have one month out of the year dedicated to black history. What’s the big deal? Let’s focus on getting our troops back home safely from Iraq. I think that’s a bigger issue to deal with versus why we are celebrating Black History Month.

By 94KAOS

February 20, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

BHM is not for the people bothering to post to this report. It is for the children that watch cable tv,listen to pop music, and attend public schools. Our mediums of mass communication minimalizes and white washes the contributions of people of color. Black history by and large is presented as a footnote or aside. Blacks parents and communities owe it to future generations to make the contributions of our forefathers relevant and mainstream.

By Proud

February 20, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

It is a sad day when in 2007 so many object to a single month that acknowledges the achievements of Americans that were even considered human for hundreds of years. We as Blacks have fought so long to have equal treatment and opportunities. As we continue to achieve both academically and financially, we are still denied by much of white america equal treatment. The narrow-minded statements made here today prove that point. Yes, we have all black institutions because white institutions wouldn’t allow us in. We have all black organizations because equality still evades us.

When I turn on the TV I continue to see all white images. The only black images are of “mixed” blacks. Because in America, if one parent is black, you’re black. Just ask Hallie Berry, who is considered African American even though her mother is white. We rarely see images of ourselves as positive and this month allows everyone to see that we have made great accomplishments for the benefit of this country. As far as other races, give me a break. My ancestors were oppressed, beaten and killed just because of the color of their skin. When did that happen to hispanics or asians?

And BTW, I am proud to be an American who is black. And I am proud of my black heritage. Can’t I be both?! I say I can!

By Just me

February 20, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

GaNative, your really a GaDumba$$. You win for the dumbest blog history month.

By Jeff

February 20, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Proud:

PROVE where you are denied ONE THING!

I am SO SICK of this “but we’re just fighting to be equal” garbage! YOU ARE EQUAL! All you’re fighting for now is to be MORE equal!

By Chand

February 20, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Until the contributions of Black Americans are recongnized and taught in schools, Black history month still servers a purpose.

By jondoe

February 20, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

The majority of our relatives have been slaves, and, slave owners. The first black slaves in the Colonies were owned and imported by - a black man. He was continuing the traditions of his African heritage.

Factoids you won’t find during BHM … in the 1700’s, 3/4ths of the world population was a slave of one type or another (chattel slavery, indentured servants, coolies, debt bondage, serfdom and land-use bondage…from ‘Bury the Chains’). All were legally owned and mostly all were treated less than human. …The Slavic people’s name comes from being everyone’s slave. …Anthony Johnson (? - 1670) was an early black resident of the Virginia Colony. He was one of the original 20 Africans brought to Jamestown in 1619 as an indentured servant. On records from Jamestown, he is referred to as “Antonio a Negro”. In 1623, he purchased his freedom and by 1651 he was prosperous enough to import five “servants” of his own. According to the earliest known court records, slavery was first established in Virginia in 1654, when Johnson convinced the court in Northampton County that he was entitled to the lifetime services of John Casor, also a black man. And, to follow up on some issues raised… the first slaves on this continent were Indians, ‘owned’ by Indians. ‘where are the Jewish and Chinese history months?’ Jews have a long history of servitude, and many came here as indentured servants (which was slavery. It sounds nice, but you are at the mercy of a demanding master. It was not just ‘OK, I’ll work in your shop for a few years.’ Human dynamics always surface when someone owns another. African slaves working in the field were treated harshly, as is the nature of field work and someone having absolute control - like a ‘boss’ who is getting a percentage of the profits. Domestic-type servants were treated much better). Asian slaves were the Coolies. They died by the hour building the railroads. The message of every cultures ‘history month’ should be give thanks to the ancestors, get an education and make a better life for your children.

By jim d

February 20, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

What is Nonsense?

This blog

By jondoe

February 20, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

As far as other races, give me a break. My ancestors were oppressed, beaten and killed just because of the color of their skin. When did that happen to hispanics or asians?

You are joking, right?

By jim d

February 20, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

OK folk’s let’s just take an honest look at this blog.

Bridget is being paid to stir this kind of debate.

However, the truth of the matter is that this debate is being done by people that already have a mind set that they refuse to alter. So what is actually being accomplished?

1) The debate rages on

2) nothing is changed

3) nothing will be changed in a positive manner

4) a deeper divide is created

5) Bridget gets paid

6) Oh, and did I mention the debate rages on and nothing changes?

By Lee

February 20, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Black history month? Let’s just call it what it really is — a month long, politically correct, feel-good propaganda session, which, actually begins in January with the obligatory kiss Martin Luther King’s butt week.

You want to celebrate MLK. I’ll tell you what. Unseal the FBI file and let the chips fall where they may. What is in that file that is so damning that the judge felt compelled to seal?

Back on topic. Every year, teachers hold their noses and teach the politically correct, black history doctrine. They hand out the list of “black inventions,” never bothering to check to see if it is correct. You want an interesting read, try reading “Black Invention Myths.”

[http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/]

Tell me teachers, when you teach black history, do you mention the race riots where many black-owned businesses were burned out? Do you talk about the black crime rate? Do you show before and after pictures of neighborhoods that were predominately white in the 60’s, but are now predominately black?

I thought not.

No, it’s much easier to parrot the politically correct lies than to teach the hard truth.

By SET

February 20, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Of Course Black History Month - February - Is a nonsense concept that should not be brought into the schools.

The last thing public schools can handle is a serious debate. By having this ridiculous theme as a school subject you risk and invite real discussion of the subject (IE discussion of the IQ gap, HIV rates, Crime rates, pathology issues in general and the reasons why). On top of that you promote one group as special - which they are not - at the expense of others. Schools can’t handle these debates especially urban public schools. It’s wrong to have a propaganda play in school when we’re supposed to be teaching students to think critically.

The obvious point of having this is that students are free to excuse not fitting in as an expression of racial identity. This does no service to black children.

Doing this makes as much sense as having Republician History week, White History month, Mexican History Month, Aryan History Month, Scientology Month, and every other political power group. Another result is the Balkanization of the students so they enlarge their racial identities (in conflict with each other) at the expense of their school and class identities.

The pleasure Blacks may gain from this excercise is short term and expensive. Hmmm sounds like their interest rates. Is their a connection? Present oriented behavior.

As far as the study of Western Civ - it’s the foundation of this country and the scientific world. I do agree that people who don’t want to be in school shouldn’t be there. So to that extent it’s all optional.

By Bridget Gutierrez

February 20, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

jim d: If you notice, most, if not all, of the readers failed to even read what I wrote. It’s obvious they popped off their posts without so much as glancing at Andrea’s story.

The question I posed is not one that was burning in my mind, but one that I know is burning in others. I tried to present the issue in the context of Andrea’s story, hoping that readers might gain another perspective.

Regardless, I think there have been some thoughtful comments on both sides mixed in with all that nastiness, which anonymous posting inspires. So, I’m going to let the commenting go on for now. But, rest assured, I’m monitoring the conversation closely.

By jim d

February 20, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Bridget,

I wasn’t attempting to discredit you in the least. But what I said still rings true. You do get paid, and these debates don’t change a thing. The only thing that will bring change in these matters is if we open our minds and our hearts to our fellow man.

On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest, I still give you a 9.5 on your blog topics though. :-)

I will agree that most posters don’t bother to read your links and jump the gun. (I’ve been quilty myself)

By Jeff

February 20, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Open question to those in support of BHM:

Go back and read my 9:04 post. Why sgould we take an entire month to study the history of one particular race when we don’t even cover much of the NATIONAL history in our schools?

You want a class in Black History? Go to your local college and take it as an elective (or maybe even a major requirement if you’re a history type major).

By Proud

February 20, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

Jondoe: Yeah I’m kidding. Maybe Asians and Hispanics should share the part of American history when they were enslaved and beaten or killed. Sorry, I missed that part of our history! Why don’t you enlighten me?!

By Jeff

February 20, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Proud:

When are you going to give me ONE time when you were not equal? (Post 1970, just in case you’re actually old enough to have been alive prior to the Civil Rights Act)

By wwww

February 20, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Proud:

Well, the first thing that comes to mind is the internment of Japanense Americans during WWII. No, that does not compare to pre Civil War slavery, but it is one example.

I think the point is that blacks are not the only group to suffer enslavment, and really, the native americans suffered a great deal to at the hands of Europeans in early America, and to a great extent, even today.

There are many, many sad stories throughout world history of enslavement, mass murder, genocide, rape, pillage, etc. It is not as though one group has the corner market on suffering over another.

It is a sad commentary when we argue “who has it worse”, or “which ethnic group has suffered more”, etc. It shouldn’t be about that. Sure, some want to marginalize the impact slavery has had on the black race, but more than that, people want to realize where we are today. It is far from perfect, but it is certainly better here for all races than in many other areas of the world.

By SET

February 20, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

wwww: A strong case can be made that the so-called internment (or was it “exclusion from the west coast”?) of Japanese Americans during WWII was a reasonable thing to do under the circumstances.

Every time we introduce racial and religious politics into public schools you run the risk of getting a real debate instead of the one-sided propaganda event you expect. We don’t need to play that game outside of ordinary history and policy classes.

It’s enough to cover these things in history class complete with debates from the opposing sides of the story. To have a day, week, month, where we glorify people for being an ethnic and being a victim is not reasonable and does a disservice.

Them major thing students should be studying about the Japanese is how Toyota has become the Number 1 Car manufacturer in the world. And/or the Rise and Fall of SONY Corp. Now that’s useful and important.

By Lee

February 20, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

How’s this for a little black history….

“Zimbabwe is suffering its worst economic crisis since independence, with acute shortages of hard currency, food, gasoline, medicines and essential imports. The meltdown is blamed largely on disruptions to the agriculture-based economy after the often violent seizures of thousands of white-owned commercial farms began in 2000. Annual inflation is running at more than 1,000 percent, the highest in the world.

There were around 4,500 white commercial farmers in Zimbabwe in 2000, when Mugabe launched the program of land seizures that has seen agricultural production plummet. Now only around 400 white farmers remain — and at least 150 of them were handed eviction letters in December giving them just 45 days to leave their land to make way for new black farmers.”

Zimbabwe was once known as the “breadbasket of Africa” prior to the land grabs. Now, they can’t even feed themselves.

Bet you wont hear about that during black history month….

By luvs2teach

February 20, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

It’s obvious to me that many of you haven’t been in a classroom or looked at a textbook in awhile. As I said yesterday, the curricula and the texts are much more inclusive than they used to be, at least at the middle and high school levels. BHM (and any other awareness month) should be used as an adjunct to, and not a replacement for “US or World History” - in other words, this stuff should be incorporated all year long, yet there is nothing wrong with a little extra recognition. I’m a trivia buff - I love it.

As far as history goes though, some of you are proving my point from yesterday that we are woefully inadequate in teaching all history.

Yes, blacks were taken from their homeland and forced into slavery, and that was a horrible thing that has had negative repercussions throughout US History - but blacks were not the only group that the white European colonists and settlers thought they were superior to, and then denigrated, abused, and enslaved. They took the Native American land - often through out and out bloodshed or sneaky biological warfare (such as giving the Natives smallpox tainted blankets). There were massacres, and yes, Proud, they were killed simply for the color of their skin. There were Native American slaves, in the Long Island area. Wounded Knee and Sand Creek were examples of massacres inflicted upon the Natives. The Trail of Tears (which is taught in 8th grade GA history) not only resulted in death of over 4,000 Cherokee, but caused them to be forcibly removed from their homeland and relocated.

The US war on Mexico had its share of atrocities - all because Mexico wouldn’t sell us the land that is now California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas - we decided to take it - and the bloodshed ensued.

Chinese laborers used in building the west were typically indentured bond servants. Once here, they were often subjected to racist vigilante violence. And after building our railroads how did we thank the Chinese? By creating the “Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882” forbiding the immigration of Chinese laborers.

Someone has already mentioned the internment of Japanese americans during World War II (also taught in 8th grade GA history), so there is no need to rehash it here.

My point is that throughout US history, there have been many incidences of racism and violence - students should learn about them all, because those that do not learn their history are condemned to repeat it.

By wwww

February 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

SET: I am not looking to get into an ideological debate with you regarding japenese internment camps during WWII. Your point is taken.

Proud made a point earlier to the effect of “give an example”. So I did.

I agree with you on many points, and as a history teacher, I agree there is way too much compartmentalizing of cultures and ethnicities both in world and us history curriculums. Please know the good social studies teachers attempt to do the best we can given the standards we must cover as mandated by the state. If all we use is the textbook and the state standards, then we are certainly in sorry shape.

This blog is by far the best example of what is wrong both with race relations in the US and the way we approach the historical context of race.

To read the attacking, accusatory, and in some cases, the downright bigoted comments from many of the posters, it is no wonder we are not any closer than we are to the utopian society many envision.

By wwww

February 20, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

luvs:

Couldn’t have said it better myself. I actually teach 8th SS, and yes, while those things are in the standards, it is up to the individual teacher to give them the importance they deserve.

By dektea

February 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

i read andrea’s report on bridgett’s editorial before i read the blogs.

By SET

February 21, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

wwww: Who wants a “utopian” society? I think the Soviets tried for one.

Utopia is incompatible with freedom. I believe we are still better off with greater freedom of choice as long as we are also free to starve to death. You can’t have one without the other.

Every attempt at collectivism in human history has ended in wretched dictatorship. Make no mistake - the USA is going to have one and probably sooner than we think.

Luvs to teach: and why is it so terrible that “blacks were taken from their homeland” etc etc?? They would have died anyway - and they were captured and sold - by other blacks… Frankly I like the music, the BBQ and the other aspects of this “diverse” country that would not be so if we were all a bunch of Quakers and Puritians. Anyone who wants to move to sub-sahara Africa can manage enough for a one-way ticket. Hmmm I don’t see a line forming.

What’s done is done. While we are here on earth, the thing to do is to make a better nation for ourselves and our families - (not Mexico’s). The education blog and indeed much of public discourse is over how to do so.

By scott

February 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Ignorance is bliss, as demonstrated on this blog everyday.

By Kae in Birmingham

February 22, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

I have read all the comments and it seems that the popular vote would be to deminish black history month. Well I would agree with this logic if black history was taught year round, incorporated into the lesson plans, revised into the history books then there would be no need. But the African American heritage is not just important to the black community it should be important and observed by everyone just as caucasian history is because it effects us all. If every invention and contribution that an African American took part in was literally erased from our history just as it has been erased from our history books then life as we all know it would but surprisingly different and less functional than some of you realize. Maybe some of you didnt listen during that one short month that you endured black history because then you would be arguing the point that the lack of black history in the normal curriculum is a perplexity and an injustice for everyone. Yes other races have contributed to the makings of the current day America, and yes it could be argued that they deserve a holiday,,,, okay go ahead but just some food for thought, I bet their month of recognition wont be on the shortest month of the year. Everyone wants to pretend that America and the racism no longer connected but things have just been covered not changed. If not then there would not be a discussion board full of adult people acting jealous when most of you are probably caucasian anyway. So if you say we need to make it equal then drop some of your history and incorporate the others that have been hidden in the shadows of America’s past. It’s not a question of whether black history is relevant, my argument would be more along the lines of why call it black history as if it doesnt apply to anyone else that lives within the boarders of the USA. And to be honest outside of black history month, our children white, black, hispanic etc dont hear about important people that just so happen to be of the darker persuasion. Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion.

~K

By Kayla

February 22, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

there should be a black history month…we celebrate presidents day and they are dead old men so whats the point of learning about them? i am out raged that you would even think of coming up with this idea….we dont learn enough information through out the school year about african americans so i think it is a great to learn it in feburary which is a short month anyways , so we dont spend that much time on it….i think your stereotypical comment was wrong!!!!

By KA

February 22, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

Kayla, Uh, Black History month also deals with “dead old men.” So what’s your point?

By Kae in Birmingham

February 22, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Well then, why isn’t there a blog about getting rid of presidents day KA? And why pick that one comment in Kayla’s argument to address when there are more relevant things in her argument????

By KA

February 22, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Kae, ALL history is relevant, and should be studied. The question presented here is the relevance of a whole month dedicated to Black History studies. I think each month of the year should be dedicated to learning about a different ethnic group or nationality. Let’s be inclusive, not exclusive.

By wwww

February 22, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Kae in Birmingham: When was the last time you were in a public school, or looked at at textbook - particularly elementary? Things HAVE changed, and black history (in addition to other ethnicities) IS taught year round.
I don’t think anyone is interested in erasing contributions blacks have made during American history. I am a history teacher, and rarely does a lesson/unit NOT include African Americans. Especially after the Antebellum period. I even start covering the Triangular Trade Route during the Age of Exploration - which isn’t even in the standards for the grade I teach.
In my opinion then, it does seem silly to set aside a month when it’s incorporated all year. So please, go to a school and observe. Better yet, go into several schools over several days if you’ve got the time. You will be surprised.

By SET

February 22, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

The whole point of “Black History” as taught in the government schools is to teach propaganda that blacks are victims (they are not), that blacks are special (they are not), that blacks are owed something by either society at large or by whites (they are not).

This indoctrination is done in order to make the the plebians more mallable. As taught thie “Black History” makes students both black and white less critical and more stupid.

The last thing you will see in a Black History or a Black Studies class anywhere in a government school is a review of the USA crime statistics both before and after the implementation of the Great Society in ‘64. Students who take these classes will have no ability to discuss the research in “The Bell Curve” and related studies about IQ studies of the various races. They won’t even know much if anything about the data at all - what data sets are available, how they were assembled, etc.

I don’t think “Black Studies” uses Sowell’s “Ethnic America” text in any way. They won’t read any of the books by Franklin Frazier - and he’s black also. The kiddies will be carefully kept out of what has been learned from the FBI file of MLK jr, or that his name was actually “Michael King” and how it happened to be changed.

In short, Black History as taught is nothing but the silliest nonsense that does nothing to prepare the students to avoid being used by others. Essentially it is a religion with religious canons that are not subject to serious or critical discussion.

My idea of education may include a lot of history - but not this garbage. And it would be taught as History not Fantasy History of one group.

The rise and fall of Blacks in American Society should be covered in class - as US or 20th Century History. Along with the rise of the the other ethnics in the USA - such as the Asians and Jews. The contrast is always educational. Can our government schools cover Thomas Sowell’s Ethnic Economic History material? Doubt it very much.

By christian mooklal

March 5, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

yall need to stop hatin. black history month should stay cuz it reminds us bout our ppl. so hate all all wnt yall wastin ya time