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With a Little Help From My Friends

After a decidedly pathetic pattern of picking wrong men, I figured out that I could not do it on my own. My problem of mate selection surpassed choosing bad boys. They were the type that had the good guy uniform but were wolves (more like jackass) in sheep’s clothing!

Oddly enough, I was smart in choosing male friends, acquaintances, and I was blessed with a wonderful father. I knew what a good guy looked like but I struggled with identifying one with a truly good character. Of course, this is because I was looking at ALL the wrong signs: looks, wealth, educational status, or sexual prowess.

As a reformed wolf picker, I feel confident in how I select mates now. I could not have reached this point without a little help from my friends.

If you want to increase your chances of a successful dating experience, it’s best to date good people. Yes, it may seem like a no-brainer, but how many restraining orders, dating drama, or psycho exes do we all have? Yeah, thought so.

Ladies, can you describe a woman with good character for the guys? It may be hard not to rattle off your own great qualities, but.how can he spot her? How long does it take for a guy to see a woman’s true character?

Guys, same deal. When is a good guy, a really good guy? I’m talking about the cream of the crop, top notch character traits of a man. How can women learn to recognize the good guy character traits? When do men reveal their character to someone they are dating?

Your character (or lack thereof) drives your behavior in so many ways. Is it difficult for you to determine what is driving a person’s behavior when you begin to date? How do you handle that?

If you have met and dated people with good character, what were the subtle signs that let you know it? Even if it did not work out for the two of you, what did you learn about their character?

Disclaimer: Let’s not have a blog war of words and insults about being a bad person attracting bad people. We all know that water seeks it’s own level. That’s a given! This is about recognizing positive character traits when you see it.

Obviously, “good” is subjective but I look forward to reading your comments nonetheless!

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By AmazonRed

January 12, 2009 8:10 AM | Link to this

Happy Monday everyone. Hope you guys are bundled up!

I identify a lot with your first couple of paragraphs WiseDiva, so you aren’t alone.

You can spot a woman with good character by what her priorities lie. The girl with the flyest stuff on will look good on your arm, but be careful of the ones that just have to have the latest things. Imagine how that works if you’re her husband and would rather save for something, but she can’t do without (if you saw Not Easily Broken this weekend, you have an example of what I’m talking about).

Another judge of good character is the woman who wants to know more about who you are, rather than what you do or what you have.

By ImAPeach404

January 12, 2009 8:34 AM | Link to this

Good morning all…

I’ve recently come to accept the fact that I’m a horrible judge of character in my dating life. How is it that I’m wrong 100% of the time???

Oddly enough, I’m a pretty good judge of character when it comes to my inner circle - especially my guy friends.

…makes me wonder

Happy Monday all - I look forward to reading the comments for the guys!

By First Renaissance

January 12, 2009 8:38 AM | Link to this

Just changing my username; more later.

By Kym-Proud Fan of the Steeler Nation and Jack Bauer Groupie

January 12, 2009 8:40 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All,

Ladies, can you describe a woman with good character for the guys? It may be hard not to rattle off your own great qualities, but.how can he spot her? How long does it take for a guy to see a woman’s true character?

You will know it when you see it. There is no list. IMO. Because frankly what is good to one is someone else’s nightmare. Also, please for the love of all that is unholy or holy..stop saying how long does it take, how much time should I wait. Look it will take as long as it takes. You may know someone for years and never know they are a lying, backstabbing, person who is lower than a snake’s belly. If your instincts tell you this on day one..then give them the deuces and move on..if it tells you on day 900 same end game peace sign up..index down.

Off-Topic-but you knew it was coming How about those STEEELERS!!!! Bring it on Ravens! Actually felt kind of bad for the Jersey Giants..but somebody had to lose.

By Storm

January 12, 2009 8:45 AM | Link to this

ImAPeach404

I’ve recently come to accept the fact that I’m a horrible judge of character in my dating life. How is it that I’m wrong 100% of the time???

Answer - you are too DESPARATE and looking for ANY guy to go out with. You are one of those women who HAS to have a man in her. Take some time to be alone and figure out WHO you are and WHAT you want!

I know ALOT of women like you. They can’t stand the thought of being alone, so they will take the first person who comes along and pays a little bit of attention to you.

By Raqi

January 12, 2009 8:49 AM | Link to this

The thing about character is you have to get to know the person in order to know their character. I think the most obvious of qualities that can be easily seen early on is respect. Respect for others as well as respect for one’s self. And as you get to know the person you can gauge their qualities of integrity, responsibility and ethics.

By Stormy

January 12, 2009 9:09 AM | Link to this

Morning All

IMO, you can see a person’s true character by the way they handle life, how they react to the curveballs and pressure life throws at them.

Another way to see a person’s real character is to observe them with family and friends. Pay attention to how they treat others and how others treat or react to them. Sometimes the non-verbal language is the best clue.

By ImAPeach404

January 12, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this

ITA w/ Kym… Once you see the signs, chuck the deuces and keep it moving. Be it day 1 or day 100.

And speaking of keeping it moving, I’d say the turn around time these days is about 2 weeks - anyone disagree with that?

Storm, actually you’re completely wrong about your assessment of me. I’ve been single almost 2 years now but I’ve dated in between time. And, the people that I’ve dated/talked to never quite turn out as they’ve presented themselves to be. What you may be sensing is the fact that I will give people a chance. As long as few key attributes are seen during the introduction, I’m open to seeing what he has to offer. I do not let what happened with the previous guy effect an opportunity with the next guy. There are a lot of women who cannot stand the though of being alone, you are right about that. But I’m old enough, been through enough, and confident enough to know there is nothing wrong with being single. I don’t like it! But, maybe the Lord is still working on me. And him.

That is all.

By ImAPeach404

January 12, 2009 9:18 AM | Link to this

ITA w/ Kym… Once you see the signs, chuck the deuces and keep it moving. Be it day 1 or day 100.

And speaking of keeping it moving, I’d say the turn around time these days is about 2 weeks - anyone disagree with that?

Storm, actually you’re completely wrong about your assessment of me. I’ve been single almost 2 years now but I’ve dated in between time. And, the people that I’ve dated/talked to never quite turn out as they’ve presented themselves to be. What you may be sensing is the fact that I will give people a chance. As long as few key attributes are seen during the introduction, I’m open to seeing what he has to offer. I do not let what happened with the previous guy effect an opportunity with the next guy. There are a lot of women who cannot stand the though of being alone, you are right about that. But I’m old enough, been through enough, and confident enough to know there is nothing wrong with being single. I don’t like it! But, maybe the Lord is still working on me. And him.

That is all.

By kinderbabe

January 12, 2009 9:30 AM | Link to this

interesting topic. can’t wait to read the comments, especially from the men.:)

i would suggest to a guy that he look for a woman who is secure in her femininity but not a damsel in distress, strong but not overbearing, considerate but not docile….basically a woman who is well-balanced in her being. i always tell my guy and girl friends to avoid someone who feels “reckless.” we all know those types. the ones who from day one have potential to bring drama and mess into your life…lol. run away from those types…far away!!!

By AmazonRed

January 12, 2009 9:34 AM | Link to this

And speaking of keeping it moving, I’d say the turn around time these days is about 2 weeks - anyone disagree with that?

Peach, turnaround time for what?

By lovelyliz

January 12, 2009 9:39 AM | Link to this

It’s not enough to find Mr Right, if Mr Right doesn’t want to find you.

Years ago, a friend introduced me to the really great guy. We laughed a lot, talked a lot and had alot of the same interests. I really think at some level he genuinely care about me, but he cared about the 5’4”, 100 lb, blonde since she died it in jr high, cheerleader type.

The few times he managed to find one to go out with him, they would break his heart. And just about everytime he came back asking me why a woman would do that. Shortly before I transferred from the area, I finally told him that women kept doing it because he was dating the exact same woman over and over again.

By ImAPeach404

January 12, 2009 9:43 AM | Link to this

Red

The time from when you get/give the number to when it goes south.

Someone mentioned a persons ability to get along with family - this reminded me, should it truly raise a red flag when a guy says he doesn’t get along with his mother? To me it does…

By clyde

January 12, 2009 9:45 AM | Link to this

When I was in the dating game I always dated older women.There were no games to play.We each knew why we were there.Best place to find these ladie;church events of the extra cirricular kind,bake sales,suppers,bazaars etc.

I still meet ladies in this setting,only thing I’ve noticed is the older ladies are harder and harder to find.

By Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

January 12, 2009 9:46 AM | Link to this

I think Raqi has it right. The first sign you will notice is how respectful a person is of others. If he is nice to you, but is contemptuous of others or treats them as inferiors, then it is only a matter of time before he treats you that way. The biggest BS detector is always in the way a person treats those he/she does not have to be nice to.

By AmazonRed

January 12, 2009 9:49 AM | Link to this

The time from when you get/give the number to when it goes south.

Peach, thanks. Yeah, I would personally disagree with that.

By lovelyliz

January 12, 2009 9:49 AM | Link to this

I still keep in contact with the friend who introduced us, but nothing from him. The last I heard he was still chasing after his cheerleader.

Lesson: make sure when you set up a friend that it doesn’t go so badly you lose the friendship.

By MELO

January 12, 2009 9:50 AM | Link to this

I’m talking about the cream of the crop, top notch character traits of a man cream of the crop is actually,ur cream of the crop and not necesarily mine.The nie,cool,laid back guys can be so boring for another woman.

To increase ur chances of meeting somebody good, that u desire,increase ur dating sample to include a lot of diverse groups,events,pfofessional gatherings,ethinic popn etc.Do not be overly restrictive in the populations thats u mingle with.Be prepared to just go eith the flow,take reasonable precautions and talk to anybody and every body in a good natured way,the way ur mama and papa taught you and if,after talking to smebody on the phone and chating about interests,then try it out. If u sit sround at home and dont go out other that to ur local grocer,then ur chances of meeting good pple are slim. Be urself.

SUPERBOWL RESULTS Baltimore Ravens 19 Eagles 14

Yes, Ray lewis will do it again!That defence is stifling and McNabb is the comeback Kid.

First Renaissance Hwz Cali Beautiful??

* the woman who wants to know more about who you are, rather than what you do or what you have* No!,the experienced females can camouflage that very well…..

By DreamsMaterialize

January 12, 2009 9:51 AM | Link to this

Morning Everyone It could be too early to say that I detect a pattern, but a couple people have already said that they’re horrible at picking a good guy, but great at picking good guy friends. Why is that? Why are your friends never good enough to be your man? What key element are they missing?

We don’t have to tell you women what traits a good guy has. You already know. Thing is, we know too, and a guy can disguise himself as a “good” guy as long as it takes to get whatever he’s looking for. If you don’t believe it, then you’re underestimating. Actually, most guys bank on you thinking we’re too “simple” to lie in a complex way…just helps them pull off the disguise more easily. In the end, the only way to distinguish the truly good guy from the well-disguised guy is TIME.

By AmazonRed

January 12, 2009 9:54 AM | Link to this

To increase ur chances of meeting somebody good, that u desire,increase ur dating sample to include a lot of diverse groups,events,pfofessional gatherings,ethinic popn etc.Do not be overly restrictive in the populations thats u mingle with.

melo, that’s excellent advice. I had noticed that I was running in the same circles with the same people.

That’s another reason why I can understand on-line dating. Most people can meet folks whenever they go out. I think on-line dating casts a wider net and an opportunity to meet people you may have never crossed paths with in any other avenue.

By AmazonRed

January 12, 2009 9:59 AM | Link to this

SUPERBOWL RESULTS Baltimore Ravens 19 Eagles 14

melo, I’ll bet you that won’t happen since it’s impossible for those two teams to meet in the Super Bowl.

Stick to the sidelines, man! You haven’t had your tutorial yet!

By Stormy

January 12, 2009 9:59 AM | Link to this

Peach

I do think that how a guy treats his mother is important. If he disrespects the women who gave life to him/known him the longest….how do you think he is going to treat you after only knowing you 2 weeks? However, there are exceptions to er’ rule.

By AmazonRed

January 12, 2009 10:01 AM | Link to this

My bad melo, I thought you said Steelers. Taking it back!

By Leggs

January 12, 2009 10:01 AM | Link to this

Good morning everyone. Raqi said it best. RESPECT. That’s what you will see first and foremost. Emphathy for others is a form of good character.

By Leggs

January 12, 2009 10:05 AM | Link to this

Good morning everyone. Raqi said it best. RESPECT. That’s what you will see first and foremost. Emphathy for others is a form of good character.

By i'm swiss

January 12, 2009 10:07 AM | Link to this

“a couple people have already said that they’re horrible at picking a good guy, but great at picking good guy friends. Why is that? Why are your friends never good enough to be your man? What key element are they missing?”

@Dreams — I was just wondering the same thing. Actually, you’re whole post is spot-on.

By Kym-Proud Fan of the Steeler Nation and Jack Bauer Groupie

January 12, 2009 10:11 AM | Link to this

Keep dreaming Simba.. Steelers-Eagles superbowl all the way. The Panthers..man what a disappointment.

By lurker

January 12, 2009 10:11 AM | Link to this

Emphathy for others is a form of good character.

By Foots

January 12, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this

Wise Mail call. Just sent you a message…

Good morning all!

Character is not too hard to discern, but the main problem is that too many folks are looking on the outside or for only pleasure to seek the things inside that really matter. Proverbs 31 describes a woman of great character: Trustworthy, loyal, respectful to others and respectable herself, industrious, responsible, strong, wise, generous.

I think Amazon was right: a woman who cares more about what’s in your pocket than what’s inside you is one to avoid. A woman who may not have much, but at least she’s got her own and has plans for her own personal success is one to get to know. You’ll find a woman of good character doing things for others, like volunteering. That way you know that she thinks outside of herself and can work towards a greater cause. She’s a woman you can work with, somebody you can tell something to. So many people out there, you can’t tell them NOTHING, they know it all. She’s someone who you can count on that if you put one dollar in your pocket, she won’t take two out.

I know several beautiful women of good character, but until the men start looking for more than just azz, they are fine with being alone.

By Kym-Proud Fan of the Steeler Nation and Jack Bauer Groupie

January 12, 2009 10:13 AM | Link to this

Amazon Red..you need to go to the sidelines..The Ravens are AFC and play the Steelers next week. The Eagles are NFC and play the Cards next week. AFC champ plays the NFC champ.

By kimmie

January 12, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this

Morning Blog Fam! Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend.

Melo - Like you post & you are right. Especially women, we had a tendency to limit our dating options. And be yourself, there is someone out there that will like you just the way you are.

Wise Diva - I, like you, always seemed to pick the wolves in nice guy clothing! To the point where not only would they have me fooled, but everyone else. I would tell folks later what a creep they were and no one would believe me “what, that NICE guy?”, “Okay Kimmie, what did YOU do?” - you know, that kind of mess. But like I have admitted before, the signs would be there and early on too - I would just cling to what I WANTED him to be, instead of what he really was. I got past it all by taking a little break from dating and just chilled and had fun and got my own head clear. Stopped listening to everyone else except my own heart and followed my own instincts. When I finally started back dating, there was just a lot of talking and observing and getting a feel for what a person is really all about and where they stand on things that are important to me. Things like money, looks, the latest car - come a dime a dozen - I never have gone crazy over that. That’s the sign of someone that’s not used to anything.

Oh, and the whole “watch how he treats his mama” thing has NEVER been a good gauge for me. Thats always been a given. EVERY man I have ever dated ADORED his mother and their sisters too(especially black men, but that never stopped them from treating me like ish if they wanted to.

By I HATE ATTENTION WHOR3S!

January 12, 2009 10:19 AM | Link to this

@LURKER….KILL IT OK! STOP WITH THE SHENNIGANS!! IT’S GETTIN TIRED!

By Foots

January 12, 2009 10:22 AM | Link to this

Peach should it truly raise a red flag when a guy says he doesn’t get along with his mother

I think it depends on the circumstances. If he’s just disrespectful to a mother that’s done right by him, then yes. If she was the type that wanted to live her own life instead of raise her child and he grew up neglected, then no. That’s understandable. Sometimes two strong-willed people can bump heads, even mother and son, but the respect should still be there if that’s all it is. It would be better to understand the reasons why they don’t get along than to just automatically see it as a red flag.

By NY2GA, Inc. (2009)

January 12, 2009 10:26 AM | Link to this

Why are your friends never good enough to be your man? What key element are they missing?

Good question. It is a matter of chemistry and being compatible. As a friend, we know alot of each other’s history (which can be good or no so good). We know how we each approach relationships and what we value. Some of my male friends I wouldn’t touch romantically with a 10 foot pole. I wouldn’t hook them up with any of my friends to date either. But, they are good friends/big brothers to me.

As for others…well…I can’t say they aren’t good enough. If we took the risk, there could be possibilities. I think what holds us back is the fact that we are changing the friendship. Besides, it can take a while to go from the friendzone to being someone’s man or woman. Sometimes the person is like like “After all this time, why do you want me now??”

By Monday Blues

January 12, 2009 10:33 AM | Link to this

Why do men date married women? Why, as a single gal, do I have to worry about the married woman hitting on the single guys? Every party I go to and there is a single guy, the married women practically throw themselves at him. It’s a pain to have to wade through the married women to get to the single guy.

Another time, I was at a party and there was an attrative man alone. I chatted him up for a few hours, and we had a great time. Later I found out he has been seeing a married woman for the last 8 years. No wonder he didn’t want my number.

Now, there is perfectly good single AVAILABLE woman sitting next to him, and he’s all entralled with another man’s woman????? I don’t get it….

By Cemeeli

January 12, 2009 10:34 AM | Link to this

Morning All!

On topic: Character judgment comes from experience… it will come with life. YOu have to learn/have keen discernment and intuition.

Steelers Nations Chic That game was a given from jump. What are Cali men doing in Pittsburgh, PA climate, anyway?!!? buh-bye ;) jkn

Yesturday, I had one too many a gold rag thrown at me! And then, was made to see someone take a squat/sit in their beloved inflatable black and gold Steelers chair, along with black jersey to match, and the fleece blanket. <— a bit much!!! While the crew (ladies) went out for dinner yesturday, the men were eating their whatevers & routing on the Steelers.

What a Sunday night! I haven’t had goofy fun like that in a long time. If lastnight is any portral of what Super Bowl party will be, i need to prepare with steel toe boots! hahaha

Steeler fans are wild!

By nice lurker

January 12, 2009 10:35 AM | Link to this

ARed girl what did you do that brought the trolls out so early on you?

What’s up with I HATE ATTENTION and Mean Lurker? Why does ARed rub you the wrong way? You’re messing it up for the nice lurkers. If we wanted to jump in on the convo, who’s going to respond with such mean nasty remarks flying?

Guess I’ll pull up and chair and refresh my coffee. It’s started early today.

By ImAPeach404

January 12, 2009 10:36 AM | Link to this

Be prepared to just go eith the flow,take reasonable precautions and talk to anybody and every body in a good natured way,the way ur mama and papa taught you and if,after talking to smebody on the phone and chating about interests,then try it out

Good advice Melo - this is what I was trying to explain to Storm but you said it much better than I!

It could be too early to say that I detect a pattern, but a couple people have already said that they’re horrible at picking a good guy, but great at picking good guy friends. Why is that? Why are your friends never good enough to be your man? What key element are they missing?

Dreams I find it very difficult to move my guy friends out of the friend zone. I do believe that friends have the potential to make the best lovers but we’ve discussed the “friend zone” many times on here. I currently have a guy friend who I know would make a great mate, but I’m just not attracted to him. I really wish I was, but I feel absolutely nothing romantic when I’m around him. Sucks really :(

We don’t have to tell you women what traits a good guy has. You already know. Thing is, we know too, and a guy can disguise himself as a “good” guy as long as it takes to get whatever he’s looking for. If you don’t believe it, then you’re underestimating. Actually, most guys bank on you thinking we’re too “simple” to lie in a complex way…just helps them pull off the disguise more easily. In the end, the only way to distinguish the truly good guy from the well-disguised guy is TIME.

WORD!!!

By Raqi

January 12, 2009 10:36 AM | Link to this

Foots I don’t think a man not getting along with his mother is a bad sign but a man that hates his mother is. I have found that a man that hates his mother usually hates women in general.

For me a man that cannot speak positive of any past relationships or any women associated with his life is probably a man that is bad at relationships.

By Foots

January 12, 2009 10:39 AM | Link to this

I don’t think you can fake good character. It’s just who you are and it comes through. You CAN disguise behavior though and fool people for a while because some of the things you do are what a person of good character would do. But if it’s not truly in that person, it shows eventually.

You may not know all there is to know about somebody EVER, but the first two or three months of dating will tell you a lot. You can tell what’s important to that person, what they spend their time on, who they are likely to blame if something goes wrong, how they deal with challenging situations. If it doesn’t line up with what you believe you want in a person and what your values are, then walk.

But that’s what the initial stages of dating (to find a mate) are for, observing and discerning who this person is from close proximity, basically so you can figure out if there is a possibility of more. A lot of us, including me, have gone for the “more” first, then figured out that we couldn’t work with the person. That goes along the lines of somebody saying “I wanna see how the sex is first, then I’ll see if we have anything in common or can have a conversation.” It tends not to work well that way.

By Str8

January 12, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this

Sending blog luv to the WiseOne… timely… here’s my 2 cenet about judgement of character 1. How does one spend their money? - obviously based on their earning power!

  • How does someone treat the beggar on the street? using beggar as an example/metaphor… can be anyone around them. their true character will always show up here.

  • What kind of friends do they have? - obviously have to hang around their friends to know.

  • I think those are the top 3 signs to look for. People usually tend to look at the relationship with family. While this kinda goes in hand with my 2nd point… I think relationship with family can be but is not necessarily a good measure. Some families are just tore up and we don’t get to choose them.

    However, even when we do land this dream person, our human nature hesitates to commit since we’re still long and wish for our ideals or we think it might be to good to be true….

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this

    Shiver me timbers.

    Women are usually bad at picking mates because they attach themselves to the outcome they desire. They want this guy to work out so bad they’re vested in the result. A surefire recipe for disaster.

    The key is don’t show emotions until you know 100% what this person is, and thats what you want, not what you want them to be.

    Young guys do the same thing. They want a woman to be some super freak or wify and put all their energy and emotion into MAKING her so. She’s not going to be anything except what she is.

    Kimmie and Wise I say you didn’t meet a wolf in sheeps clothing as much as you made him one. Everyones in here on their shield as though they have some charachter level at which they operate 100% of the time. Thats never true. Everyone can and will fluctuate based on their current mate. A dude was good until he found out that wasn’t necessary to deal with you, then he dropped down to a more suitable level. Same goes for women with men. Everyone works on a sliding scale based on the circumstances.

    Storm That mom thing is old and tired. Thats like saying a chick is crap if she doesn’t like her father. Not a solid rule. I loved and respected my mom but I’ll still dog your azz out. LMAO

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 10:45 AM | Link to this

    You got that right, Foots, no way can you “fake” good character. If you’re “bad to the bone” eventually it will come to a head and one’s true self will shine through.

    By Raqi

    January 12, 2009 10:46 AM | Link to this

    who they are likely to blame if something goes wrong

    Foots that is so true. Denial in failure and/or wrongdoings are symptoms of bad character wearing a neon sign and flashing lights.

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 10:47 AM | Link to this

    Keep dreaming Simba.. Steelers-Eagles superbowl all the way im planning to go to the superbowl just for the fun. I promise u this bet,if Steelers win,ull be in my party of 5,ur all expenses paid..i wont ask u 4 nothing,just cme with us so we can enjoy,all the fun tgether etc. Steelers beat Ravens twice in the season,3 is a charm,Ray wont have it.By the way,Simba(swahili) means Lion and my zulu totem is lion.U psycic!!??

    and he’s all entralled with another man’s woman????? I don’t get it herte is ur answer:if smebody has her/him,they are desirable and if u dont have none urself,maybe u are not that desirable.So look at u and see what u need to change.Why is that u cant/fail to win single men all the time,Blues??

    By Kym-Proud Fan of the Steeler Nation and Jack Bauer Groupie

    January 12, 2009 10:49 AM | Link to this

    Cee Steeler Fans are just passionate about their team. I am trying to decide if I am going to the bar up in Roswell wear all the Nations fans hang out..or if I am going to stay home. Thinking I will stay home and me and the boy will throw our own AFC Champ party.

    Time to drop Steel Curtain II on some Ratbirds.. Go Steeler!!! I am so proud!!

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 10:49 AM | Link to this

    Raqi Luckily, I haven’t run across any men that hate their mothers. My current SO and his mother are closer than they used to be, but not as close as my mother and I. Once I understood the circumstances behind why they had problems in the past, I didn’t see it as a red flag.

    So you’re right, unless he hates her because she allowed him to be abused or abused him herself (which is understandable), I’d call a flag on the play if he said that he hated her just because.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 10:50 AM | Link to this

    You got that right, Foots, no way can you “fake” good character. If you’re “bad to the bone” eventually it will come to a head and one’s true self will shine through.

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 10:51 AM | Link to this

    For me a man that cannot speak positive of any past relationships or any women associated with his life is probably a man that is bad at relationships.

    Raqi - I agree - this is what I’ve run into before. I’ve known dudes whose mother did everything but throw them in the dumpster when they were born, but they still respected their piece of a mama. But there are some that just never have ANYTHING positive to say about women or have NEVER had a decent relationship with one. And they probably never will. I run.

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 10:52 AM | Link to this

    Good Morning..

    On Topic

    Look at how he treats other people. He is trying to impress a female, so that representative will be there. The “real” may show in how he treats others. Once he is done trying to impress you, then that “real” person usually comes out.

    Peach

    should it truly raise a red flag when a guy says he doesn’t get along with his mother?

    You have to know more about the guy and his relationship with his mom before making an assessment on those grounds.

    For example, my cousin despises his mother. If you look just look at that and make an assessment on that, you may question if respect for women. However, if you found out that his mother (this is true for my cousin) is a drug addict who never was around. My cousin feels like she chose her friends and drugs over supporting him and his aspiration. He was raised by his grandma because dad wasn’t around either. He went to college and even asked his mother to attend his graduation from college. She told him that would but stood him up again.

    However, he has a great job with Turner Sports that he loves and is a great single father to his son (the child’s mother died in a car accident). He uses his parents as an example of what NOT to be.

    Bottom line: There are no blanket answers to this thing. Live and learn.

    By str8

    January 12, 2009 10:53 AM | Link to this

    it’s been a while since I was here… wanted to stop by and wish everyone a HNY! and to shameless plug a nonprofit organization I founded (with 2 others). need the blog family support. for more info visit www.nurucenter.org… contact information on the site. monetary or any other type of support welcome

    thanks

    By Raqi

    January 12, 2009 10:54 AM | Link to this

    What kind of friends do they have?

    Str8 I said this to someone earlier this morning. Birds of a feather will flock together. If all of their friends are jerks or worse so are they.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 10:59 AM | Link to this

    Stopped listening to everyone else except my own heart and followed my own instincts.

    Kimmie

    That’s the first thing pple need to stop when meeting and intial dating someone. some ppl have a tendacy to wanna date the same type of person that others in their cirlce are dating. First WRONG MOVE!

    and to piggyback on what Melo said.

    Go with the flow…be you, and your best you!!! A person’s character, good and bad flaws will rear it’s head sooner or later. There is not necessarily any ‘specific’ amount of “time”. But after so many interactions you’ll be able to gauge a person characteristics.

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 11:00 AM | Link to this

    Women are usually bad at picking mates because they attach themselves to the outcome they desiregood point.If a woman makes the mistake of jumping into bed be4 she has the whole scoop on him,and just goes by his swagg,what he drives,where he lives, and his pockets,its usually hard for them to go ahead and say,i made a mistake and ill drop him Their emotions are now vested coz there is so much DNA that has been exchanged,it takes time for them to rationalize this relationship and re-consider.As for young guys,when they 1st taste the joys of sex,its as if they are the 1st to discover its sweetness.What more can be said.

    By Tazzee

    January 12, 2009 11:01 AM | Link to this

    Morning All!

    I hate when I chime in late and everyone has already said what I wanted to say.

    Oh well…

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 11:02 AM | Link to this

    ARed girl what did you do that brought the trolls out so early on you?

    Nice Lurker, welcome. Everyone loves a winner I suppose! ;-)

    It’s just funny to me how folks begin their week with such negativity. Sucks for them!

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 11:03 AM | Link to this

    Very admirable what you are doing str8. Right there is an example of one’s character. Anyway, I will make a donation very soon!

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 11:04 AM | Link to this

    Truth - This is the point I made earlier - That mom thing is old and tired. Thats like saying a chick is crap if she doesn’t like her father. Not a solid rule. I loved and respected my mom but I’ll still dog your azz out. LMAO As for the other ish you said to me & Wise, well it’s just that, ish. Every tub has to sit on its own bottom, so whatever I do can’t determine a dude’s basic character, or lack there of if it’s not there. Entitled to your opinion though.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 11:07 AM | Link to this

    Now, there is perfectly good single AVAILABLE woman sitting next to him, and he’s all entralled with another man’s woman????? I don’t get it….

    Monday Blues ^^^ That man is enthralled with the “committed to someone else woman”. May be that he can have cake & ice-cream. (ponder that) He doesn’t have to give her more than a fling/affair and he’d be Scot Free of any commitment. that’s what that is about

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 11:08 AM | Link to this

    Very admirable what you are doing str8. Right there is an example of one’s character. Anyway, I will make a donation very soon!

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 11:10 AM | Link to this

    Kym

    Time to drop Steel Curtain II on some Ratbirds.. Go Steeler!!! I am so proud!!

    Football rant on…

    Sorry…I agree with Melo on this one. I think that flying rats will win this one. They had the Steelers on the ropes in the last game only to falter. However, I just know how hard it is to beat a NFL team three times in one season. It is extremely tough. I don’t really like one team better than the other. I think I like both of those team equally. However, I would like to see Ed Reed get a ring because he deserves one….He was drafted after the Ravens Superbowl victory. As a matter of fact, Atlanta Falcon’s Dan Reeves chose TJ Duckett over Ed Reed in that draft. Ben played pretty well, though.

    As for the Giants, I really felt sorry for them. I usually don’t, but one guys action’s trampled the team’s goals. Plax is a #1 receiver and commands extra attention. With him out, the Giants were left with a set of #2 receivers in those crazy conditions yesterday. His mistakes cost that team big. They only won one game without him (the Sunday night Carolina game).

    As for Carolina, Saturday did it for me. They NEED a real QB to be successful. Delhomme is a spacefiller at QB. They need a second option if the game dictates that they have to throw the ball. The way to be them is to get a lead so that they can’t run the ball like they want to do. They are too one-dimensional. How do you throw 5 interceptions? They wasted a great opportunity.

    Football rant off.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 11:13 AM | Link to this

    everyone have a fab weekend? saturday was gorgeous here. i love calif. jr. got a tetherball set from santa. we spent the whole wkend digging a hole and pouring concrete … oh and making a big mess. lol. it was fun. another reason why i miss a strong man around the house.

    on topic if it looks too good on paper/blog … keep it movin’. applies to both women and men.

    btw, that wasn’t me on fri.

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 11:16 AM | Link to this

    “Why do men date married women? Why, as a single gal, do I have to worry about the married woman hitting on the single guys?”

    Because those single guys know those married women are looking for the same thing they are: a good, no strings f@#k.

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 11:16 AM | Link to this

    doesn’t have to give her more than a fling/affair and he’d be Scot Free exactly!!:

    NOT EVERY GORGEOUS AND UNATTACHED(good relationsnship with parents) MAN IS LOOKING FOR A WIFE

    By MistaO

    January 12, 2009 11:18 AM | Link to this

    Being real, SOME of yall women go out the world backwards.

    What I mean by this is you’ll spend all your “best years”, say 19 - 30 letting any ole tom, dick or harry beat it up and then turn around at like 35 to dang near 50 and start worrying about why you can’t find “Mr. Right”.

    Look here’s a hint, Mr. Right might know you or have dealt with you but is not going to make a wife of you. Simply put, most men can sniff out a woman who’s been around, if you get my drift. And he may date her and what ever but put on his “I want to be a husband” hat, naw it ain’t happening.

    That’s just the way it is. Plus far too many women out here today belived that crap about they can behave just like a man does and still get a “good man”. Nope, it doesn’t work that way that’s why you have so many older women today that have not, and more than likely will never be married.

    Dudes just aren’t choosing them…For obvious reasons.

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 11:21 AM | Link to this

    Blues you may not be that exciting. Maybe he thinks since your single you want marriage and family and with that chick he only gets uncommitted sex, which isnt a bad thing. Maybe he’d rather watch paint dry than spend more time with you. Who knows?

    Kimmie don’t get tenderheaded. Guys do the same thing. Sometimes our product just isn’t appreciated by others. You need a warm hug this morning? C’mere. LOL

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 11:21 AM | Link to this

    MistaO, you must be friend of our friend Truth. LOL

    By QC - Ravens Fan

    January 12, 2009 11:24 AM | Link to this

    Morning Bloggers, have a warm day :-)

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 11:24 AM | Link to this

    PoppaG First - Morning. Second - yea, long rant indeed. I don’t know about predictions, never been one to weigh out the ‘win’. But i wanted Carolina to do a little something and i was rooting for Titans. oh well

    Tazzee I hope you do add your comment. Obviously have a good gauge of one’s character, you have a good nature yourself. speak on

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 11:24 AM | Link to this

    MistaO- You really could have kept that.

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 11:25 AM | Link to this

    The Ravens hit to kill and if not,to draw blood!!LMAO.I saw one guy in that Tennessee game get hit by Ray and lose his helmet.They will be ready to funeralize(zulu wrd) the Stealers(yes,they stole one game from them,wont happen again)And the Carolinas,i hate them coz i hate that short pompous guy,Steve Smith.Maybe its the height in me that says,short men stay humble.

    Where is Alvin???

    By Staceye AKA Black Mamba

    January 12, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this

    Well I have come to realize that have a magnet for: Liars, psychos and the down right raggedy! LOL So of course if I was to meet a guy and I actually like him…there is something wrong with him! So when I have tried to date guys that are not my usual…it doesn’t work because I do not really like them. For instance…I know I love tall men. I tried to get over that but being wiht a short man not only feels funny but I am not really attracted to him. I tried that whole looks aren’t everything approach…again. he was cool as a friend but could I see anything really budding….nope! So its liek you are doomed to be with the losers you actually like (while they break your heart and run you through the ringer)! Or you could be with the one you really have no romantic feelings for and be miserable. (Spending time with them is like a chore) UGH…what a rut!

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 11:34 AM | Link to this

    NOT EVERY GORGEOUS AND UNATTACHED(good relationsnship with parents) MAN IS LOOKING FOR A WIFE!

    Melo I’m sending a firm blog handshake to you dude.

    Just like my relative…Dude is rolling up in the latest hotspots and he’s ALWAYS dapper, tall, nice looking, suave kickin’ the best SWAG, and oh so NICE! He is 42 and is NOT looking for committment! <—- that is his goal in LIFE. To stay single. He has one daughter and she is well off in college now. So now he’s really doing his THANG! With some very “establish” women and 2 of them know of each other. real sad He and i get into talks all the time but at the end of the day he family and…well…what can i do to change grown men? nuth

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 11:35 AM | Link to this

    Truth - I ain’t tender and I always realized everybody don’t want me & I don’t want everybody!LOL!! But unless you’re my child I’m raising, I’m not responsible for anyone else’s character. Your quote A dude was good until he found out that wasn’t necessary to deal with you, then he dropped down to a more suitable level Yeah, suitable enough to get his butt kicked to the curb. But I understand(you forget I was married to you), that you’re just being Truth!

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 11:36 AM | Link to this

    How can women learn to recognize the good guy character traits?

    by looking past looks and chemistry, which is tough for most.

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 11:37 AM | Link to this

    Angie another reason why i miss a strong man around the house.

    You should have called that guy you’re seeing over to help. It may not have been as much fun as doing it with your son, but you didn’t exactly have to miss the strong man around the house if you would have called him over. He probably would have been happy to assist.

    Raqi birds of a feather

    My mom and grandmother said that all the time. People usually choose friends that are basically like themselves. I might have some questionable acquaintences, but if they are too far off the mark, they won’t become (or stay) my best friends.

    I threw a red flag at this guy I dated in college once because I remembered that advice from my folks. One of his roommate’s friends had a girlfriend. But the guy would bring another chick to their apartment to cheat on his girl with. My boyfriend was like it was no big deal. When I said that yeah, it should be a big deal to him because he was a party to it, he disagreed and asked what he was supposed to do. I told him that he may not be able to stop him from cheating, but he could definitely stop it in his own house. I thought it spoke lowly of his character that he could condone such behavior and allow it to be brought into his home. I said that if he could condone it, he could do it himself. He eventually saw my point and stopped the dude from bringing the girl over.

    There may be things that my girls do that I don’t necessarily approve of. But even if they are my girls, I can’t condone behavior outside my code. I can’t stop them, but I can dayum sure stay out of it and not allow mess into my own life.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 11:41 AM | Link to this

    cee he ain’t doing anything wrong. those women know what’s up! tryin’ to change him … thinking the puddy will get him on one knee.

    i’m not mad at bruh.

    By Kym-Proud Fan of the Steeler Nation and Jack Bauer Groupie

    January 12, 2009 11:41 AM | Link to this

    PoppaG I agree with everything you said except the part about the Steelers..I am a fan of Ed Reed(I love a man on defense) however, I want to see my guys back at the Superbowl. Ben was on point yesterday..O-line showed up. And Tomlin(I can’t say enough about the job he has done in Pittsburgh)

    Besides I am pretty sure there will be a riot if they try to give that AFC trophy to the Ravens at Heinz Field.

    We shall see..we shall see.

    By Angel

    January 12, 2009 11:42 AM | Link to this

    Looking for good character: *Check out what type of job they do *what’s their belief or religion? *Their honesty - how they treat otheres *what do family & friends have to say about them *test them too - by pretending you need some kind of assistance *their background and most of all take time to know them…..it takes time to know someont.

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 11:43 AM | Link to this

    MistaO you do sound just like me. Dayuum. I’ve already told them and they don’t want to listen. 10 years from now when they’re still single and asking these same questions it will become more apparent to them. Thing is they downgrade a bruh for anything from to many children to not being there or not enough ambition yet they think they retain the same value no matter what they do. SMH

    Raiders 27 Philly 10 Oh shyt, that already happened. I’m living in a time warp. Pittsburg all the way then. Tough d and better offense than the Ravens.

    Ared what have you done to make total strangers get out of bed to come and heckle you? Its like they’ve been waiting all weekend.

    Kimmie I’m not feeling the good spirited chick that normally posts. You tired this morning?

    By lil puma

    January 12, 2009 11:45 AM | Link to this

    ARed MistaO, you must be friend of our friend Truth

    Yeah, one and the same mentality. They’re the ones that does/did the trashing. Could it be the reason Truth assumes every woman is akin trash? I’d chaulk it up to luck and the luxury of meeting lowlifes that required nothing more than allowing themselves to be ho’d out by him.

    By Tazzee

    January 12, 2009 11:50 AM | Link to this

    Football - I can’t believe how bad Carolina played Saturday. There is no way the Falcons would have lost to AZ in the dome (yep, I’m still mad about that game).

    It will be nothing short of amazing if Baltimore manages to beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh. I suspect it will be an Eagles/Steelers SB and I’ll be going for the Eagles.

    Cemeeli Thanks lady - all I got to say about the character thing is time and pressure - you know that’s my answer for everything, LOL. But with time and witnessing someone experience pressure situations, you’ll really get to see their character. I do agree with others that how a person treats other people is a giveaway. But folks can fake that for a little while.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 11:50 AM | Link to this

    foots i did. lol. he’s a concert promoter and had a gig to attend. i wasn’t in the mood to get all doll’ed up and had promised my son that this saturday if it doesn’t rain we’re getting dirty. he gave me instructions over the phone on mixing, etc.

    his life is fast right now. always out mingling, concerts, shows. i’m the opposite … want to be at home, doing my homework, always thinking about what to cook for dinner.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 11:52 AM | Link to this

    Angie I guess. But when he calls and want us/me to incorporate one chic into family functions …i’m looking at him sideways. So he allow one to hang while he’s out with the other and then later on he’d bring the other one around. Obviously he needs help to keep them on replay…

    oh well. Still family…

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 11:53 AM | Link to this

    Ared what have you done to make total strangers get out of bed to come and heckle you? Its like they’ve been waiting all weekend.

    Truth Heck, one of em had been waiting since Jan. 8. Went back and dug up a post.

    Basically, “I don’t know how to put this, but I’m kind of a big deal.” LMAO.

    By Been Thru It All

    January 12, 2009 11:53 AM | Link to this

    @foots But thats the thang tho…we guys stay out of each others business…what would you have done if the roommate himself was bringin in some side hustle…I would be damnd if I told a guy or a guy told me yo cant have over who you want because yor girl doesnt like it….That line that birds of a feather flock together only works on animal planet…

    Don’t get me wrong, I feel you….but thats one of the problems women have with men, why its hard to find a good guy…learn to mind your own business, take care of your relationship, and things might go a little smoother…

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 11:53 AM | Link to this

    A general rule of thumb if i were female and below the * a lil’ desperate* age range: I will date my age.Chics 28 and below,1st, better to date within the 3 yrs and below age range.The moment u date more older men(5 yrs older),ur likely-hood of chasing lying, married men will rise,thereby wasting ur dating time and that prospect of meeting Mr Right early.I wld summize that men in their 40s,who, for all intents and purposes,wanted marriage, are married unless they have divorced,or there has been death.The 40s guys are the more experienced at tailoring a character to suit their pudsy quest.

    By MistaO

    January 12, 2009 11:53 AM | Link to this

    Truth Ayo I’ve even hear matriarch’s (great Grandmothers) of families drop the same knowledge and sat and actually watched as the younger women totally discounted what the older women were trying to instruct them in.

    See the term: Cognitive Dissonance.

    Sad thing is, the main reason you see so much strife out here today comes directly from the women. And they absolutely hate for a man to point it out to them.

    Plus the reason there are so many trifiling dudes out here is because there are so many no account women who give punanny away like it’s air. Then they wonder why you have these dudes out here who don’t even work and refuse to do anything but lay up under some broad while she goes to work. Shoot, it’s because so many women accept this.

    Oh and plus, you have far too many women still thinking they can raise a boy into a man. Nope, sorry again, this will not and has never worked. Yet another reason so many worthless dudes out here. Cycles people, cycles.

    By Stormy

    January 12, 2009 11:55 AM | Link to this

    That mom thing is old and tired. Thats like saying a chick is crap if she doesn’t like her father. Not a solid rule. I loved and respected my mom but I’ll still dog your azz out. LMAO

    Truth You are soooo wrong for this on sooo many levels. LOL

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this

    Check out what type of job they do, Angel is already picking hiz pockets..LMAO..Truth,did u see that 11.42

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 11:57 AM | Link to this

    Truth - I’m actually feeling great this morning! No bitter feelings, nothing bad! Came into work and my boss had all kinds of yummy goodies on my desk. No, what I think is that with what I’m saying this morning the truth has hit home! Sometimes, the truth hurts, LOL! But it’s my truth, no one elses, and I think others can relate or take something from it. You and I agreed that woman have a tendency to put too much into the whole “watch how he treats his mama” mantra and neglect signs of other flaws. I’ve never not admitted my mistakes in the demise of my relationships, but as for having a hand in determining a person’s character, I just can’t see that, especially if I’ve treated you with at least basic human kindness. I disagree with you MOST of the time Truth, I just don’t comment on it most of the time. This today is so mild, LOL!!!

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:01 PM | Link to this

    cee family functions … that’s a whole different ball game. i would still leave that alone though. not my business and eventually it will catch up to him. men are hunters and they are selfish. he knows how you guys feel about his dating life. he doesn’t care. if he did, it would show. make the best of it and keep smiling. it’ll work itself out.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 12:01 PM | Link to this

    As the robot in Lost in Space would say, DANGER, DANGER Angie. Hopefully, you’ll getting dolled up often enough even if you want to stay home.

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 12:03 PM | Link to this

    Kym

    I actually like the Steelers and would not be upset if they won. It wasn’t like Saturday because I’m not a big Titans fan. I really was actively rooting for the Ravens. I don’t really have a favorite between these two. I like the both of them.

    Besides I am pretty sure there will be a riot if they try to give that AFC trophy to the Ravens at Heinz Field.

    Nawl, Pittsburgh fans are rowdy and all, but I don’t think that they would do that.

    Now, if you were talkin’ about Philly fans…..

    Whoever win it Lamar Hunt trophy will probably win the Vince Lombardi trophy, too.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 12:06 PM | Link to this

    As the robot in Lost in Space would say, DANGER, DANGER Angie. Hopefully, you’ll getting dolled up often enough even if you want to stay home.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:08 PM | Link to this

    leggs what are you talkin’ bout?

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 12:08 PM | Link to this

    Been thru Ok, fine. But what do you stand for? What do you allow in your home? What kinds of drama do you allow people to bring in your life? Sure, that’s your boy, but you don’t have to be involved in his stuff if it’s something that you don’t believe in. You can’t stay out of somebody’s business if they are doing it around you and involving you.

    If it was his roommate, then he wouldn’t have had a choice, would he? But if he did room with that type of guy, they probably wouldn’t be friends, just roommates.

    Check this out: If you’re reading and you come to a word you don’t know, first thing you do is use context clues to figure out its meaning. If you’re dating a person you don’t fully know, it’s also good to use context clues to figure out who you’re dealing with. You watch their interactions with other people, see what they stand for, what their code of conduct is, what types of things they allow in their lives. Yeah, you could ignore all of that and just focus on that person, but remember, that person interacts with a whole world and if you’re thinking about being a part of that world, you better know what you’re getting yourself into.

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 12:09 PM | Link to this

    Melo - No age should be a lil desperate. You have to play the hand life deals you and everybody is not going to be dealt the you WILL be married by this ___ age card, if you get married at all. Too many people judge others and think something is wrong with them if they are not married by a certain age, male & female. Having said that, I’ve always done better dating guys around my age-range, from the time I started dating up to now. But I agree with you that your chances increase of meeting a married player as folks get older!

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 12:10 PM | Link to this

    Angie

    men are hunters and they are selfish

    We are all selfish, and not just a male thing. We all do things from which we will benefit in one way or another.

    The human species would not sustain itself without being selfish.

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 12:13 PM | Link to this

    Angie his life is fast right now. always out mingling, concerts, shows. i’m the opposite … want to be at home, doing my homework, always thinking about what to cook for dinner.

    So in another three months, you’re not going to start complaining that he’s always out mingling, and at concerts or shows while you sit home, are you? LOL!

    Seriously, those double-sided coins are a monster. The same things we like about somebody in the beginning can turn into the same things we hate about them.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this

    poppa let’s agree to disagree.

    By Kym-Proud Fan of the Steeler Nation and Jack Bauer Groupie

    January 12, 2009 12:15 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG You sound like my big sis talking about philly fans. Steeler fans..we just love the game and I am looking forward to the defensive match up. I think Sunday will be all party food..wings,maybe do some turkey sliders..let me go see if Paula has a spinach dip I can whip up.

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 12:21 PM | Link to this

    Poppa We are all selfish, and not just a male thing. We all do things from which we will benefit in one way or another.

    I agree, selfishness is a natural state and it’s in us from birth. Babies are the most selfish creatures. We have to be taught to be considerate of others, and in some of us, the lesson doesn’t take hold all that well. In most of us, it’s a daily struggle to consider someone else above ourselves.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:22 PM | Link to this

    foots nope! lol. it’s nice that he has a LIFE. and i have my thing going on over here. it’s working out pretty good. no complaints here.

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 12:26 PM | Link to this

    Kimmie a persons charachter is never a set point. It fluctuates based on their need. A really great way to alter someones “character” is to put them under severe pressure. You’ll see how fluid character can be. Even the pope would cut your throat if it benefitted him to do so. When people assume they’ve hit a certain level they just haven’t been challenged in so long they think where they are is who they are. You’re always one incident away from meeting your inner animal. Is squeezing your azz out of the question now that we’re divorced?

    Ared you’re a rock star. LOL I’m pulling down my red velvet curtains to make you a queens robe. Strut lady strut. LOL

    storm of course I wasnt speaking of you directly but you know what I mean.

    Melo of all the chicks in here Angie is a permanent resident of lala land. Then she’s the first one to try to “get back” because shyt goes sideways. I wouldn’t put jack past a chick like that. I bet she has some fire booty though. No is not a part of her vocabulary when she’s all in. LOL

    Lil Puma I don’t think all women are trash. I know some great chicks. I think that there are as many pitiful azz chicks out there as there are men. We had the market cornered on trifling but you ladies made a strong push and now claim half the field.

    Poppa and Poots that response on being selfish is right on time. It’s the nature of the beast. 100% cosign

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 12:27 PM | Link to this

    Dayuum. I’ve already told them and they don’t want to listen.Thing is they downgrade a bruh for anything from to many children to not being there or not enough ambition yet they think they retain the same value no matter what they do. SMH

    Truth, it’s not that. It’s just a broken record now. You preach this on a board of 30+ year old women. The kids are already here, the ho card is out of punches…basically, that ship has sailed already on here. The men aren’t fooled a by the reformed ho anymore.

    I suggest you make your rounds at the high schools. LOL. Well, maybe junior high.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

    did you guys see the moon saturday?

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

    Kym

    You sound like my big sis talking about philly fans.

    Philly had a freaking jail at the Veterans Stadium….enough said.

    I don’t know if Lincoln Financial Field (the Iggles new home) has a jail or not.

    Angie

    let’s agree to disagree.

    No problem, you threw it out there like it is fact.

    The only thing is that human bodies hate stress and crave comfort. That alone will drive selfishness. Eating a pint of Ben & Jerry’s after a break-up is an example of the human’s body’s selfish need for comfort in a time of stress.

    By Been Thru It All

    January 12, 2009 12:30 PM | Link to this

    @foots Easy ma…I said I feel you, but we as people need to mind our own business, not turn a blind eye…ex. would you shot a guy to the curb if you found out that his brother, father, best friend went to jail for murder, rape, drugs…but he still dealt with them guys on a day to day basis…remember what you said birds of a feather…now ask the guys on this blog how many fall into that scenario…I do…my best frend has committed murder, but yet we still kick it….does that make me a murderer in waitin too….

    I guess what I want to say respectfully is that, dont fall for the okey-doke…a real man runs his life without influences from the outside world, all others are just simps….and sometimes thats what a lot of women end up with….

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 12:31 PM | Link to this

    foots nope! lol. it’s nice that he has a LIFE. and i have my thing going on over here. it’s working out pretty good. no complaints here.

    Angie, didn’t you come on here talking about you and dude went seeing each other? And when no one gave a ish started talking about him again like all was gravy?

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this

    truth where that come from? what? i’ve been skippin’ posts … i’ll go back to read and catch up.

    By ImAPeach404

    January 12, 2009 12:34 PM | Link to this

    Oh and plus, you have far too many women still thinking they can raise a boy into a man. Nope, sorry again, this will not and has never worked. Yet another reason so many worthless dudes out here. Cycles people, cycles.

    So MistaO at the end of the day, really, where should the blame lie?

    And, after most of the stuff I’ve read here from the fellas, I should just give up on men all together because yall aint $hit.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:34 PM | Link to this

    truth you meant Angel.

    By abc

    January 12, 2009 12:35 PM | Link to this

    Cognitive Dissonance is a very apt descriptor for the essence of today’s topic, and for the general subject(s) commonly discussed on the blog.

    Women know a good man when they see one, they can easily describe what one is, but they’ll fairly consistently pick the opposite. They know their own hearts, but portray themselves differently, and defend their facade with ferocity. Their inconsistencies can become subtle and difficult for a man to recognize.

    Men will want to portray themselves as an ideal for their gender, but we all know what our failings are. Most of the time, those failings are so obvious it seems to us pointless to try to cover for them, and we’re men anyway — it’s not so much a part of our nature to pretend. Still, we want an ideal mate, even though we may not warrant it, tend to believe it’s what we deserve.

    What is a good man? What is a good woman? First of all, it’s one you can trust, one that will let you know the real them. People with any life experience will be a bit reluctant with the trust required, simply as a result of victimizing and being victims of other people’s dissonance.

    Touche, MistaO.

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this

    Amazon/Truth I suggest you make your rounds at the high schools. LOL. Well, maybe junior high.

    Hellz, try elementary, before the hormones get going. I saw pregnant sixth graders when I was in high school. Eleven years later, I’m not sure WHAT I’d see now.

    Angie That’s good. Just be sure that his lifestyle fits yours. If dude loves what he does, he’s going to doing it for a long time.

    Shoot, I’m sure Si-Man’s wife loves him to pieces, but knowing me, I can’t imagine being married to a man whose job it is to be out partying and flirting EVERY dayum weekend.

    I tried dating a concert promoter once. He was cool and we vibed, but I saw right off that I’d end up eventually having a problem with all his late nights and I had to cut him loose, with no hard feelings at all. I’m just not made to party 24/7 or sit at home while my man parties 24/7.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this

    poppa it is fact. i’ve seen it up close and personal.

    By lurker

    January 12, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this

    Angie Poor thing. You just don’t get it do you. Every daggone thing just flies over your head. So so sad.

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 12:39 PM | Link to this

    Truth - No, you lost rights to squeeze anything with the divorce, SOL!!!

    Anyway, I see your point about character, it just feels like it absolves either party of any responsibility for their own behavior, is my point. Yeah, people can push you into doing things that would not normally be in your makeup to do. The killer instinct kicks in. You may not like the things I do in the bedroom, how I keep house, how I cook. I may not be supportive of your career or I may be materialistic. Is that reason to let the “killer” in you come out? Why not just dump me? That’s all I’m saying. I don’t call someone a bad guy just because they didn’t like what I had to offer!

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this

    No age should be a lil desperate I wldnt generalize on the age # coz it varies with each woman and what they are about but i know at some ages,the ladies are more agreable than dis and than when they were younger.

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 12:44 PM | Link to this

    Angie

    poppa it is fact. i’ve seen it up close and personal.

    I never said that you didn’t see it up close and personal.

    I agreed that men were selfish.

    I just went on to say that we, men, don’t hold the patent on selfishness. It is a human thing. Like, Foots said, we have to be taught to be considerate of others. We don’t have to be taught to think of ourselves.

    That innateness of selfishness is bound to show up in every part of our lives in some form, including interactions with the opposite gender.

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 12:46 PM | Link to this

    Been thru You have your standards and I have mine. But a man is known by the company he keeps. And yes, you can be related to someone, love them, and STILL choose not to be around them and their negative behavior.

    I don’t know your situation, but of course, there are exceptions to every rule. People make mistakes and forgiveness is always available. But I’m talking about continuing to choose to be around people who behave outside of your OWN code (what you deem acceptable behavior for you and others) as a way of life, not a one-time bad decision. I appreciate the respect.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:48 PM | Link to this

    foots i’m not the jealous type, so his mingling doesn’t bother me. he’s doing what he needs to do to pay bills.

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this

    Peach And, after most of the stuff I’ve read here from the fellas, I should just give up on men all together because yall aint $hit. You got it now. LMAO

    Angie me and Melo was discussing something and I used you as an example. Back up.

    Ared/Poots by jr high these chicks are masters of their trade. Talk with some teachers, these youngins are off the chain for real.

    Kimmie even beyond the killer example. Just the pressure of being with someone everyday can alter you. I’ve known good dudes/chicks that got with folks and were to far in (kids/marriage) to easily get out. what they became was not pretty. Ok, squeezing the booty is out. I respect that. Can I get some nipple therapy?

    By MistaO

    January 12, 2009 12:57 PM | Link to this

    Peach404 At this stage in the game I think we are well past the points of looking to place blame.

    All’s I’m saying is time both males AND females look in that good ole mirror and be HONEST about why they are in their current circumstance! I’ve just seen far too many women crying and whining about how they can’t find a decent man and all the other mess. (Side note: you rarely hear men complaining like this but I’m sure it’s some out there)

    So again, I’m not looking to “place blame” per se, but on the whole, the female has far more say about where she’ll end up romantically speaking, than the average dude.

    Men are so darn simple, that it’s no excuse for a woman to not be able to get and keep a good man. The issue is within most of these women and the fact that men today just don’t fall for the okey doak the way they used to.

    I mean lookit, what dude in his right mind is going to marry a 40 something year old, “well traveled” woman, with all kinds of luggage carrying around vs. a 20 year old chick with some training to do but still rather tight? It’s a no-brainer for most men on all socioeconomic levels.

    That’s why a lot of women who put so much emphsis on career and all that, more than likely end up with just that, a career. Plus most men wont tell you this, but on the real, most of us value a woman who sees nothing wrong with being a housewife WAYYYY more than “career” women. They are just not too attractive when it comes to desiring a family…

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 12:58 PM | Link to this

    Angie He doesn’t get us involved in that mostly. It seems the ladies seem to want to tell us the “business”. Not sure if for validation. And most times it’s so many ppl/fam/frnds around,…Girl 1 may not know that Girl 2, is even there or who! watch that

    ….Gurl, i mind my business, trust…all so, family is first. We mostly keep street talk in the streets.

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this

    I dnt know if angie can handle a concert promoter,even one who does it for the christian country folks and calls himself one!! Heck, i dont even thing angie will ever find a mate that dont play her coz her character is just so allowing of being played.Not every woman can manage a tight ship in so far as S.O.To be a sniffer(female) but still able to luv ur mate and him luving u back all the same,it takes something special and unique in that dynamic. And its not even faulty if there is smthing in ur relationship or future ones that wont be found in most other relatiosnhips.Thing is,dont be a follower,have ur own thresholds/accomodations/(non) coz not everybody will have the same type of relationship etc.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this

    truth well your example is terrible, except for the fiya booty part. lol.

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this

    Truth - What you’re talking about is LIFE, I was just talking about dating and trying to distinguish the real person from the representative.

    As for the alternative therapy you requested, you’re always you and that’s why I’ll always love you!LOL

    By Been Thru It All

    January 12, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this

    @foots okay, your right, I’m wrong, everybody who is somebody only hangs around people that only do good things and lives christian lives and dont get into trouble and they have friends who also live pristine lives and the all sit at Piedmont park and sing Kum-bah -yah(sp?)…j/k

    I understand ur angst…all I’m sayn is dont limit youself because his friend is shyt…I cant stand my wife’s sis, but they talk on the phone ereday, but you know what…my wife acts nothing like her, so I’m cool…

    Thank you for keepn this civil…have a good one sistah…

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this

    I dnt know if angie can handle a concert promoter,even one who does it for the christian country folks and calls himself one!!

    melo - From previous posts it seems like that’s the type of men she goes for. I think one of her baby daddies was like a singer or a roadie or something.

    Old habits die hard, I guess.

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 1:04 PM | Link to this

    MistaO it doesn’t matter. first they complain they can’t get a man. Then they complain all day that they have one and its so much work. Then if he leaves her alone he’s a cold b******* and so on and on. My suggestion for dudes with wives is do what you want to make you happy because she’s incapable of being happy. Complaining is a part of her makeup.

    We had a chick in here a few weeks ago complaining about washing stains out of clothes. I’m like wtf??? Never seemed that hard to me.

    As I can see it now as long as she’s complaining she’s happy. Just don’t let me hear it. LOL

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee Maybe i need to figure out what i cna do to get on the 12hr/4days work schedule. Lastweek seemed as if it went on foreevvver….

    What is a good man? What is a good woman? First of all, it’s one you can trust, one that will let you know the real them.

    abc Happy to agree with ya!

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 1:09 PM | Link to this

    angie It’s not about being jealous. It’s about finding someone whose life meshes well with yours. From what you describe, he’s a concert promoter and you’re a homebody.

    But, if you’re happy, we happy.

    By lurker

    January 12, 2009 1:10 PM | Link to this

    Truth Melo of all the chicks in here Angie is a permanent resident of lala land. Then she’s the first one to try to “get back” because shyt goes sideways. I wouldn’t put jack past a chick like that. I bet she has some fire booty though. No is not a part of her vocabulary when she’s all in. LOL

    Angie what part of this insult do you not read as such? There shouldn’t be any LOLs behind this…what a dummy

    By Mistao

    January 12, 2009 1:17 PM | Link to this

    A Truth to commiserate you again on that note, it is nothing but the unabashed truth!!!

    I know of one chick, who comes from nothing mind you, get with this dude, cat bought her a HOUSE!!! The house she wanted, made it so she didn’t have to work, put her in a new truck, dude stays playing with the kids and never goes out with the boys or none of that crap. I know dude doesn’t abuse her or nothing and you know what?

    This chick STILL stay complaining about her life!?!? I know broads that would literally KILL to be in her shoes but yet, just like you state, no matter what they are NOT going to be happy. I agree, a lot of them just have it in their make up and are not happy unless they miserable.

    Go figure…

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 1:23 PM | Link to this

    Been thru How do you get to singing kum-ba-yah from me saying that a man is known by the company he keeps? That’s a OLD saying, but I see you took it to another level, LOL! Just know that there is wisdom in it, whether you agree with it or not.

    And you know what? I have no angst. I live drama-free because I associate with drama-free folks. Nobody calling me to ask for bail at all times of the night, no friends trying to figure out who the daddy, no family members trying to pick my pockets for a retainer for a good lawyer… LOL!!

    Nice chatting with you, bruh. You cool wit me!

    By ImAPeach404

    January 12, 2009 1:24 PM | Link to this

    MistaO - nice post but I think you missed what I was getting at. You spoke of women thinking they can raise a boy into man… I’m a woman trying to raise a boy into a man so I took notice of what you said. I read that as you saying this is another reason there are so many worthless dudes out there and I cannot do it - he’s 13 and that remains to be seen. But, is it completely my fault that this is the case… nope. So, maybe a better question would be - what was your point in mentioning this?

    side note someone mentioned something about a large number of 30 something posters on the blog… I doubt that for the most part. A lot of folks (male and female) act like they still in HS the way they talk about other posters and their dating habits. How the hell yall remember everybody business like that anyway?

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 1:28 PM | Link to this

    Totally off topic: Could somebody explain the origin of the term “simp.” I know what it means, I’m just curious where it comes from. A combination of “sucker” and “wimp,” perhaps? Just curious.

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this

    Women know a good man when they see one, they can easily describe what one is, but they’ll fairly consistently pick the opposite.

    It’s not alot out there so that’s where we start accepting some flaws about a mate. I don’t think WOMEN intentional want a screwed up mate. But when you can not put your hands a on good one..You start accepting smaller flaws.

    Researching and PAYING attention to the character is the only thing you have in finding a good mate. I am finding that out right now late in the game. Forget the frills, money, swag…lets’ get down to who you are if I strip you butt naked of money, frills, swag, education and all of your material possession…WHO ARE YOU THEN?

    I am not sure most people understand what it takes to get down to true character…Cause it damn sure takes a while.

    Thing is a man self esteem is usually tied to his money and his possessions. Which can cloud your judgement as well.

    But good response so far guys!

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 1:30 PM | Link to this

    lurker obama said this if insults are all i have to worry about … i’m good!

    foots we’re fine. i can’t start with the negative thoughts until he gives me something to think about.

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 1:31 PM | Link to this

    I think that qualifying attributes of a good person are not gender specific…it is a human trait of behavior and attitude that convey eh goodness of a person.

    I believe that honesty, compassion and empathy, objective listening, emotional and psychological balance, a work ethic, ambition to be accomplished at something, self-worth…all of these are attributes of a good person…but this list in not all inclusive.

    In many instances, we all know good people from either side of the gender fence, but that does not necessarily mean that we are attracted to that type of person for other reasons…not every good person that we know is necessarily the best mate for us.

    Again, as I have posted before…I have a list of disqualifying criteria…hit one thing on that list and it is a done deal…buh-bye…for me it just seems easier to eliminate what does not work than to deinfe what may work…what I know I do not like comes from experience…what I may like has the probability of not even being known.

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this

    MistaO - Stay out of other folk’s business. You don’t know what’s going on up in that dudes house. Instead of commerserating with Truth, who by the way is his own man, worry about your own house.

    As Amred said earlier to Truth, you’re preaching to the choir up in here. This is a pretty together bunch of blog women. We take responsibility for our own happiness and quite a few of us bought our own homes and cars and come from decent families. So we don’t come on complaining about how some man didn’t buy us what we want. Quite a few are also quite educated. What you’re selling there is not a market for on this blog. Find another forum.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 1:41 PM | Link to this

    See Foots 12:13 Angie, that’s what I was talking about, but I see where you posted that you’re not a jealous person. That’s all well in good, but it’s not about jealously….shyt happens!

    By Been Thru It All

    January 12, 2009 1:44 PM | Link to this

    @foots I hear you, but dont be so stuck-up…erbody has to pull down there pants to shyt, and I bet yours stank just like mine… what I mean is that if you havent had to post bail, find out who one you girfriends fugged and gave her the clap, or look up a lawyer, count it all joy…but aint nobody immune from drama but if you were being lighthearted and joking…..hahahahahaha u funny azz he!!:-}

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 1:44 PM | Link to this

    What up Blog Fam!!!

    Person of Character:

  • Accountability

  • Logic

  • Self Control

  • If the person you are dealing with doesn’t have all 3 of the above then…. Wait a minute, I think I’m on to something here….

    Good is relative

    Foots I understand what you are saying but like all things on this planet nothing is 100%. At least that’s what I think Been is trying to say but I know you know that all ready. Oh and that’s my hand in your front pocket I’m looking for your wallet.

    abc your post was on point

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

    Angie It’s not about having negative thoughts about him either. There’s nothing wrong with what he does for a living. Again, it’s about finding someone whose life meshes well with yours.

    I see MistaO’s point about a man who desires a traditional family life may choose to stay away from an extremely career-oriented woman. Nothing bad about what she does, and nothing bad about his choice not to partake, their lives just won’t mesh well. And because I desire a settled home life, I don’t choose to date men who party for a living. Nothing wrong with what they do and it needs to be done, it just doesn’t work for the type of life I want. While I’m still single, it’s okay for me to let a few sexy ones pass that don’t fit in order to find a better fit for my life. That’s why my Promoter Dude had to vacate the premises.

    So it’s good that you say that you’re fine with the way things are now. If it stays that way, then it’s ALL good. I was just commenting because you’re the one who said that you missed having a strong man around the house…and you already HAVE a man. Do your thing though.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

    See Foots 12:13 Angie, that’s what I was talking about, but I see where you posted that you’re not a jealous person. That’s all well in good, but it’s not about jealously….shyt happens!

    By (The Original) Little Puma

    January 12, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

    Well Good Afternoon…

    Well, well, well,glad to see some had me on their minds this past weekend.

    Hey lil puma regarding your 11:45 …although I see what you are saying, looks to me like you’re already telling on yourself with that moniker of yours, to include addressing AmazonHead aka PopTart of the Blog as if it’s all gravy….and also… about that moniker, dare to be different, original, perhaps. NO need to bite. LOL

    Giving the little hot-head any more airplay wouldn’t be a good idea, especially when it comes to Truth (which btw, that wasn’t me earlier) . That fool can call her all kinds of things (in a round about way) and she still won’t get the overall message…too busy kissin’ his azz with her tongue out. LMAO But I flip flop on here?

    You preach this on a board of 30+ year old women. The kids are already here, the ho card is out of punches…basically, that ship has sailed already on here. The men aren’t fooled a by the reformed ho anymore.

    LOL!!! Again, it seems you think you’ve been pulled out of the equation simply because you have no kids to show for your late night festivities, as it’s been admitted plenty of times, many have been dug out. While I have no children either, I still don’t believe in putting myself above others over something as silly as that.

    Remember you ain’t no spring chicken ya’self and you somehow think that little difference makes you more marketable than the rest? If that’s so, you’d be married by now. LOL! And just like Beau woke you up with those late night cravings, so will the next, and the next and the next…add that shyt up and there goes how much time you’ve spent on the tracks. Phluck the punchcard, might as well toss that in the trash.

    WiseDiva Nice disclaimer, but you knew this here wasn’t over. We have too many who want to get in on the action now. LOL

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

    i’m swiss I first heard simp on this blog. Then someone from ‘round the way.

    Simp = sissy & pimp…Lol naw for real…

    …a dude who a wanna be pimpin’ acts like he doesn’t care about his girlfriend but is very much whipped.

    Are you having your cermony in the States?

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 1:49 PM | Link to this

    Been thru Yeah I was being funny. And mine probably stinks worse than yours. That’s why Truth calls me Poots. LOL!!

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this

    leggs don’t you think i know that? don’t you think i would go a different route to dating now? with what i and others have been through, RW hurting me wouldn’t be such a big deal. moving on will be much simplier … next! i’ve been there, done that. i’m not naive or stupid.

    By Stormy

    January 12, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this

    ROFLMAO @ Melo trynna snap on Angie

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 1:53 PM | Link to this

    Kimmie thats not true. I had a friend of many years that married a troll too. She had a home and car of her own but now that she was married she needed new everything. dude is catching it right now even though he’s given her everything she asked for.

    My solution is give her what you want her to have and call it a day. When her complaining gets to be more than you deem she’s worthy of spraying simply drop her azz back at her parents home. Thats the beauty of this McD’s society. The end is as quick as the beginning.

    Speaking of McD’s, whats up Blow?

    Btw, no matter what you’re talking about the woman you’re talking to is never the one that would do that. Who is this one mythical woman that keeps draining dudes of child support and dragging him through court? She’s a busy heffer. The rest of you are angelic and patiently waiting for mr. McDreamy.

    Poots post those quotes from the bible again about an ill tempered loud mouth azzed woman. They’ll believe when they hear god said it. LOL

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 1:54 PM | Link to this

    Ared QUESTIONS: You say you are over the lurkers and WHOR3….Tell me this..Why do you take the energy…the few keystrokes to respond to them??? If they are so pointless…that’s why you have all the trolls attacking you..THEY GET AIR TIME!!! LOL

    By Been Thru It All

    January 12, 2009 1:57 PM | Link to this

    my definition of simp you can be a sucka or pu##y whip… but to be both, is a simp…might have to check Webster’s…..lol

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 1:57 PM | Link to this

    well foots we’re still in the getting to know you phase. we’ve had our bumps and bruises, but it’s good right now. we’re not committed to each other, but we respect and cherish our friendship. it was my decision and lil his to be friends first. being friends first is something new to the both of us. i like it. thanks for your concern.

    you remind me of my oldest sis. always got something intelligent and uplifting to say.

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 1:59 PM | Link to this

    LOL!!! Again, it seems you think you’ve been pulled out of the equation simply because you have no kids to show for your late night festivities

    OG Puma, I’m pulled out the equation simply because I’m not a h.oe. You’re still on here woofing like your opinion is still somehow gonna make it true. It won’t.

    By the way, I don’t think having kids makes you one either. Once again, you just come on here an apply selective reading to make a point about me that doesn’t even apply.

    You can be the president of my fan club though, since you’re so concerned.

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 2:01 PM | Link to this

    Thanks, Cemeeli… That makes sense. I’m always fascinated with language & it’s various mutations over time (must be the old English major in me).

    Yes, the ceremony is in the states. Right here in town, actually — ceremony in Alpharetta; reception at the Evergreen Marriott inside Stone Mountain. Open bar, if you want to crash. ;-)

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this

    Angie I pretty sure you know that, I was answering the question you posted to me before lunch. Foots already clarified, but I didn’t want to leave you hanging. And, as far as the “different route” to dating, I don’t know what your other route was to answer that.

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this

    For Real * I understand what you are saying but like all things on this planet nothing is 100%.*

    Yeah, I do get what he is saying and I thought I acknowledged that nothing is that cut and dried when I said:

    I don’t know your situation, but of course, there are exceptions to every rule. People make mistakes and forgiveness is always available. But I’m talking about continuing to choose to be around people who behave outside of your OWN code (what you deem acceptable behavior for you and others) as a way of life, not a one-time bad decision.

    In other words, yeah, I can hang with you if you make a few bad choices and correct yourself. But I can’t hang if your whole life is one bad choice after another.

    It’s the nature of crabs in a barrel. Even if you’re a good person, folks can pull you down if you get close enough to their mess. I know several people who when they decided to do better, started hanging with people who were doing better, doing the kinds of things they wanted to do. They let folks involved in nonsense go because they became about something. They understood the meaning behind phrases like “birds of a feather flock together” and “water seeks its own level” chose to belong to a new, more positive flock and move to a higher level.

    And ain’t nothing in my wallet!! I haven’t gotten my bailout yet, but the lady I called said the check was in the mail. I think she lying tho. LOL!

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this

    @i’m swiss

    Open bar…what’s the date…leaving for the ATL now…lol…don’t market the right opportunity to me…hey-ale…I will even bring a gift.

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this

    Ared QUESTIONS: You say you are over the lurkers and WHOR3….

    Blow Me, when did I say that? In any case, I like to respond to my fans. LOL

    By the way, I had only responded to Nice Lurker today, not those other two, so keep up. LOL

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 2:07 PM | Link to this

    Angie I pretty sure you know that, I was answering the question you posted to me before lunch. Foots already clarified, but I didn’t want to leave you hanging. And, as far as the “different route” to dating, I don’t know what your other route was to answer that.

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 2:08 PM | Link to this

    TRUTH- STOP spewing that mess around the blog! We need a clean up crew on aisle 3…Give it up!

    Lil Puma I did catch that…as if the women on here are all ho-ed the hell out not true. That’s the worst description of the women on here I have heard YET!. CHECK MINES LAST WEEK. These women on here is taking care of they own…cars, cribs, kids, vacation…They are doing what their hearts desire and with good character….KISSES LADIES…SCREW THESE BLOG TROLLS OF MEN WITH POST WITH DAY IN AND DAY OUT! LOL

    Who cares with Truth say..he’s scared to fall in love. If you listen to him you REALLY do have problems!! Self validation on this blog is damn sure not needed..

    That’s why I am a fuggin nut on here and I speak my mind cause truly I don’t need for you to like me. But most do anyway!! lol!

    oh yeah and LADIES

    KEEPING HOLD YOUR OWN!!!

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 2:09 PM | Link to this

    Suisse

    Cee don’t drink alcohol. She drinks nothing stronger than Red Kool-Aid mixed with sprite.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 2:10 PM | Link to this

    swissy Yep. I got chu’ lol…

    You a english major too!Dang why do I gravitate to those types?

    That spot has a beautiful waterfront & oveanfront/mountain view…auwww how sweet.

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 2:12 PM | Link to this

    CEE Sorry this might speak on my character….

    Good news: That was the wine!

    BAD NEWS: I could not control myself around your plate from the TOF….I find myself resembling a crack head trying to get one more hit…That plate did not last for 30 mins..lol

    By Raqi

    January 12, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this

    You know WiseDiva I was thinking about this while driving from the doc’s office. Good people don’t always make good relationship partners. We find people that are upstanding citizens, responsible and charitable but are lousy when it comes to being a partner. IMO being in a relationship takes caring not only for the person but for the relationship itself. I agree with being of good character but you have to add in the good for relationship traits. Not everyone that is good can, want to or is able to put the time in that is needed to maintain a good healthy relationship.

    I know that’s what you meant by the post but I was thinking it so I posted it.

    By MistaO

    January 12, 2009 2:17 PM | Link to this

    Really, though just looking from the comments by some of the folks here, only serves to confirm why so many are and will more than likely remain, manless…

    To boil it down further, at the end of the day a lot of broads want men to buy used goods. And refuse to accept the fact that most men are hard wired (no pun intended) to recoil from women who have a lot of different DNA in them.

    I mean yea, you got some dudes who will marry an old lady and what not, but speaking realistically, it’s not what males desire and the sooner some accept this, the sooner they’ll retire the whorish ways and not encourage their daughters to follow suit. Then, maybe then, you’d see more marriages today vs. baby mama’s and daddies and all that other crap and nonsense…

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 2:19 PM | Link to this

    leggs got it! i have to remember also that y’all don’t know me. so you replying to something i post and not really getting the jist of what i’m trying to say, i have to understand where you’re coming from.

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 2:23 PM | Link to this

    ARED FUNNY! Look not keeping up..lol! but I do know that you go back in forth with them on a WEEKLY basis. It gets silly after a while. Just thought I’d let you know. If you want to shut them up. ignore em! sheesh! It’s like they are feeding your ego or something…I sure hope that’s not the case. lol

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 2:24 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG HUSH!!!

    Blow Kick ‘em! Lol @ crackhead gettin’ that next hit on a fish plate. Glad you found it.

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 2:24 PM | Link to this

    M’Karyl — It’s in August, so you’ve got time to shop for that gift. ;-) Good thing, too, ‘cos little swiss miss is running this thing like she’s selling season tickets: availability of your seat is based on your donation. LOL

    PG — We’ll just have to spike the punch with a little Rhum Barbancourt… Cee won’t know what hit her.

    Cemeeli — We just have that gravitational pull, I suppose. The Evergreen is really nice — and very affordable, relatively speaking.

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 2:29 PM | Link to this

    but I do know that you go back in forth with them on a WEEKLY basis. It gets silly after a while.

    Well, Blow, sorry to disappoint you, but I’m a girl who likes to act silly. So I suppose you’ll just have to get used to it.

    We got used to your rants w/ Truth.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 2:31 PM | Link to this

    Angie, I really am not trying to be funny, but re-read this —->you replying to something i post and not really getting the jist of what i’m trying to say Well, if you aren’t saying it right, we can only respond to what you post. Perhaps it’s me today. Am I missing something?

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 2:32 PM | Link to this

    Foots And ain’t nothing in my wallet!! I haven’t gotten my bailout yet, but the lady I called said the check was in the mail. I think she lying tho. LOL! That’s okay I just like looking for it. Is that it???

    Raqi See that’s the problem with the word “Good” it is relative. Define character and if that person has it then the things you mention for relationship will be taken care of. Like I said if a person is 1. Accountable, 2. Logical, and 3. has Self Control then a relationship with that person shouldn’t be diffcult. The problem comes when that person can only be Accountable, Logical, and demostrate Self Control at work. And by that person you know who I mean. Congrats on the baby. Hey if you want to really blow Mase mind take him to the bodies exhibit at Atlantic Station. It shows the development of an actual baby.

    Blow So you saying that if a woman “own…cars, cribs, kids, vacation…” that they of are good character and are not a hoe?

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 2:32 PM | Link to this

    Ared I was trying to save a lost soul. There is a difference!

    Little did I know…he was already gone!

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

    Suisse

    We’ll just have to spike the punch with a little Rhum Barbancourt… Cee won’t know what hit her.

    Lol…that stuff gotta little kick.

    Cee

    HUSH!!!

    You betta watch out! That liquid courage will make you do things that you’ll regret later.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

    swiss/PoppaG - When folks go to order their drinks at a resturant/spot i’m usually lookin’ lame with my big clear glass of Sprite <—thanks for putting it on blast Poppa. When i order a v. daquiri at least the glass make it look the part. hmmph

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

    I was trying to save a lost soul. There is a difference! Little did I know…he was already gone!

    Blow Me, you so crazy. LMAO.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this

    Angie, I really am not trying to be funny, but re-read this —->you replying to something i post and not really getting the jist of what i’m trying to say Well, if you aren’t saying it right, we can only respond to what you post. Perhaps it’s me today. Am I missing something?

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this

    They’ll believe when they hear god said it.LOL u stoooopid ..lol

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 2:40 PM | Link to this

    i’m swiss thats my hood and i wanna come.Plz send the invite,plz,plz

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 2:40 PM | Link to this

    @ i’m swiss

    sure she right…in these days and times, the best seat goes to the best gifter…lol…I wish both of you all of the best…it sounds like you have selected some very nice locations for the ceremony, reception and all.

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this

    @Melo

    You just wanna crash that open bar…lol…and then bring a flask to fill…lol.

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this

    Angie, ur posts seem like u have another lingo other than english.If english is ur 1st language,understand that wrds have meanings.When u say that u have never been friends first with a dude whilst dating,that suggests u have used a diffrent model in the past.I wanted to ask u on that,decided not to until i saw leggs had copied my brain and was raising the issue.If u pots sme that seems kinda unclear,stoopid needs clarifcation etc,u are going to get a response 90% of the time and possibly get villified for it.If u dont want that,brush up on ur english writng skills

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 2:50 PM | Link to this

    MELO — Fine by me. Unfortunately, I’m not the ticket manager. I’ll refer you to my little lady’s gift policy. LOL

    Thanks, M’Karyl. Should be good times. Second only to the honeymoon. :-)

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 2:51 PM | Link to this

    swiss Can i wear my Tina Turner outfit? I’ll stay within reach of dance floor only.

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 2:51 PM | Link to this

    Blow did you take your meds today? Your all over the place. Then again, thats the norm for you.

    Here’s my question to you. If you all are such good women why can’t you get one dude to believe in you enough to give you what you want, a husband and kids? Its amazing that you write your own ads but nobodies cosigning. I’m a sob and I can get at least three women that have known me for at least 5 years to marry me this weekend. Btw, each is college educated, has her own home, car, etc. Since your such a great person how can this be? I know I’ve asked before but have never gotten a response.

    And Blow I am in love, with me. Everything else is secondary. Thats why I dont rate my happiness on if I have you or not. I loves me some me. LOL

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

    Cee

    When folks go to order their drinks at a resturant/spot i’m usually lookin’ lame with my big clear glass of Sprite <—thanks for putting it on blast Poppa. When i order a v. daquiri at least the glass make it look the part. hmmph

    Ain’t nothing wrong with that! We have a friend that always orders a large cranberry juice mixed with pineapple juice. It looks like a fruity mixed drink, but contains no alcohol.

    There is nothing wrong with always wanting keep the mental signal clear. All you have to do is what Monica Pearson for 5 minutes and you’re reminded how crazy people really are. And right now, with this economy, many people are desperate, too. It sounds right smart to me.

    I drink mostly at home.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG

    You betta watch out! That liquid courage will make you do things that you’ll regret later.

    Good lookin’ out! ….Unless it’s with someone I want get me out a lament mood…who says i’ll regret.

    By Raqi

    January 12, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this

    ForReal Having all the right characteristics to be labeled a good person in general does not make one capable of being in a relationship. I actually thought about one of the ladies that work at my doc’s office. I have known her for years so while she takes my vitals and whatnot we exchange friendly conversation. She is a good person but has admitted to not being able to do relationships although she would love to be in one.

    It could very well be that she chooses the wrong the guys but that doesn’t make her not be a good person. Or she could be just scared to be.

    That’s all I was saying.

    And thanks by the way.

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this

    @Truth What about those of us who are not trying to get married???…not everyone woman on this blog is trying to get hitched…personally, getting the attention of a man is not an issue…that is easier than keeping the rain off with an umbrella…wanting to be bothered with the associated issues is another question.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 2:56 PM | Link to this

    brush up on MY english?!? rotflmao.

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this

    “so you replying to something i post and not really getting the jist of what i’m trying to say” - Angie

    “I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant,” - Richard Nixon

    Interesting ain’t it…..

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this

    Truth, I got a few that believe in me. I don’t want nare husband nor kids (LOL).

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this

    “Can i wear my Tina Turner outfit?”

    Uh… is that a rhetorical question, Cemeeli? Now that I know you have one, you’re not getting in unless you do. ;-)

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 2:59 PM | Link to this

    leggs what are you trying to prove today? how hard is it to understand that sometimes you guys take my posts the wrong way. it happens here 100 times everyday with everyone. that’s why people reply back and forth.

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 3:03 PM | Link to this

    Cee

    who says i’ll regret.*

    With that liquid courage, you might regret givin’ your number to a dude that you thought looked liked Blair Underwood, but really looked like Flavor Flav when you got another look at him while sober..lol.

    I guess, if that’s what you are looking for, you won’t regret it. j/p

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 3:03 PM | Link to this

    Truth, I got a few that believe in me. I don’t want nare husband nor kids (LOL).

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 3:05 PM | Link to this

    All you have to do is what Monica Pearson for 5 minutes and you’re reminded how crazy people really are. And right now, with this economy, many people are desperate, too.

    PoppaG Lol…Monica is a people watcher too? My girls like for me to go for that other reason. At Luckie friday night is an example.

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 3:05 PM | Link to this

    Mk this is for those that have never been married but think once they get hitched the suns gonna shine for the first time. What they dont realize is they’ll still wake up with that same bad breath, still weigh the same, and still be the same miserable person they were before the big day. Marriage is not the promised land.

    For most their best days are right now before they have those extra responsibilities. Sieze the day. LOL

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this

    For Real Is that it???

    OHHHHHH YEAHHHHHH!!!! THAT’S IT!!!!!! Can you look for it for about five more minutes?

    LOL!!

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this

    Raqi you’re welcome. But my point is the word Good. You say she is a Good person and I am not disputing that but can a person be good with bad character? The word Good is subjective. As I’m sure you have notice on this very blog all the definitions of Good. What is not subjective is character. If a person cannot sustain a relationship look at that person’s character and not their heart.

    MK But do you expect the commitment of a marriage from dudes?

    For Real now sliding his hand in MK’s blouse to see how much money she has.

    By Tazzee

    January 12, 2009 3:09 PM | Link to this

    Cemeeli I was at Luckie Friday night - were you there?

    By kimmie

    January 12, 2009 3:09 PM | Link to this

    M’karyl - See you took the words right out of my mouth. They act like getting married is the end all, be all. That’s not what everyone wants or it’s not in the cards for everyone. Does not mean they are a bad person or a ho.

    Truth - Before I went to my meeting the point I was trying to make is that most of the women on this blog have cars, houses, etc. Ole mista was acting like that’s all it takes to make women happy. We’ve got all that so you gotta come on here with more. He’s talking about a different breed of woman.

    Raqi On point as usual with your 2:13.

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 3:12 PM | Link to this

    @Truth

    k…just wanted some clarification…did not want to jump off and respond like an arse and not be certain…it was how I read it, not necessarily what you posted…ain’t trying to spark no blog flog today…lol…enuff of that going on anyhoo.

    But, in all honesty a marriage committment is not the end all be all of anything…if anything, it is the beginning of a whole nother level of obligations and such…and if a person’s head is not in the right place from jump…then they will fall of the cliff into another mess of shyte…so no, it does not make the world a different place that is free of any ill.

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 3:13 PM | Link to this

    BTW, I did see the two of the Husbands of Real Housewives of Atlanta on TV last night.

    Bob Whitfield(technically he is still married until the appeals are done) & Ed Hartwell were on 11 Alive’s Sports Extra last night and they talked about the “Housewive’s” show.

    Bob still has his sense of humor about this whole thing. He said that he went to Miami and some people called him Mr. Sheree. He must have showed up on an episode after all

    For those that watched the show:

    Did Sheree’ really have a fashion show with NO fashion?

    Still don’t think that I’ll watch the show.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 3:13 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG Lol i might be a Flava Flav type-a-lova…<—-See, that would be me “covered”.

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 3:14 PM | Link to this

    @ For Real

    If I ain’t looking for a marriage committment for me…why in the hey-ale would I care what a dude thinks or wants????…WTF…and if he does, then he needs to look someone else…not in this camp.

    By Raqi

    January 12, 2009 3:17 PM | Link to this

    ForReal what would you say makes for bad character in an otherwise good person who can’t make a relationship work? I know you don’t anything about her just like I know very little, but in an instance if of just anybody or you saying her not being able to give the time is of bad character.

    (Disclaimer: I get what you are saying about “good” but just for the sake of conversation and maybe some enlightenment to someone looking on)

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 3:17 PM | Link to this

    Cee at a Mr. Vee’s 10pm….

    Flavor Flav: Ha ma can I sit with you?

    Cee: Hell NAW!

    Cee at a Mr. Vee’s 11pm….

    Cee: Whew dis red kool aid shoal good!

    Flavor Flav: Hey ma can I buy you another drink?

    Cee: Awwww Dayummm! Ummm cuse me.. you just sneakadit up on me. did you say drank?

    Cee at Mr. Vee’s 1am….

    FF: Look here ma I just bought a bottle of your favorite. How bout we drank this at my crib?

    Cee: Hot Dayummm it’s Morris Chesternutt. Baby I’ll drank it off you azz rite hear!

    Cee at the crib 1:30am…..

    Flavor FAVVVVVVVVVVVVV!!!!!!

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 3:18 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee with Frank Ski and his tribute to Upstaters and New York, and such?

    Girl stop!

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 3:21 PM | Link to this

    @PG

    I saw some rerun episodes on Bravo a few weeks ago…did not watch the show in its run…but after listening to so many negative blast from different ppl on ajc.com blogs…I thought I’d check it out…what a waste…it truly degrades the perception of the ATL scene…none of these women are style, class or sophisticated…just got into some $$$$…someone else’s…imagine that.

    Bimbo, catty, nasty, shallow, two-faced…and yes, she had a fashion show without fashion…but keep in mind, she does not have more than a high school education…so she probably did not know any better…lol.

    By Staceye AKA Black Mamba

    January 12, 2009 3:23 PM | Link to this

    Mista O Men are so darn simple, that it’s no excuse for a woman to not be able to get and keep a good man. You sound as if you are implying that there are good ones out there! (j/k) But please…men are simple…they want a woman to be a good lillte girl and look the other way while he cheats with anything born female with a pulse. He wants a woman to be independent enough to financially contribute to the household equally but wants to pull the “I am man” card when it’s convenient for him. He wants her to work 40 hours like him, but still come home, make dinner, take care of kids and all the other crap while he either goes out with the fellas (or creep),and be ready for sex whenever he wants it. (He should be tired from slinging his joint around anyway..but being greedy is in a man’s nature huh)! Sounds simple to me..yeah. He wants a superwoman/freak of nature. But it’s ok that is he below mediocre because after all boys will be boys and women are the ones who are desperate for a relationship. So she should take what she can get…her feelings, worth and esteem be d*mned! Sure buddy!

    what dude in his right mind is going to marry a 40 something year old, “well traveled” woman, with all kinds of luggage carrying around vs. a 20 year old chick with some training to do but still rather tight Translation…why marry a woman who knows all my games and will not deal my BS because she has been there, done thar and bought the t-shirt. So I will find me a young stupid girl and mold her into the perfect spineless mindless twit I want her to be. She will be so in love with me and I don’t have to do anything because she is already amazed by my “maturity”. I don’t have to step my game up to match hers because hers is so far behind mine anyway!

    Plus most men wont tell you this, but on the real, most of us value a woman who sees nothing wrong with being a housewife WAYYYY more than “career” women. yeah right…then throw it in her face that she does not financially contribute to the household when am argument arises! You wnat this woman dependent on you so you can control her! A woman wiht her own career will not be a beck an call girl. After all…who is going to stroke your ego and be your glorified maid, baby maker, cook and BJ giver?

    Thing is a man self esteem is usually tied to his money and his possessions Blow Me so very true. I know dudes who lead with their wallet when meeting women then want to talk about how women are golddiggers! Hello…whatever you did to get her you must keep it up to keep her.

    Swiss did you say open bar? When and what time? Will it have a vodka slide? LOL Oh just had a flash back to my girl’s wedding in Miami in November. Thank God I drank after I performed. That could have been ugly!

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 3:25 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee You could have very well saw your blog friend. We were three amigos and the traveling tall dude = me (the dark one), white chic (in slacks and white sleevless top) and philippine/black chic with a skimpy black dress w/ knee boots.

    We’re slippin’.

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 3:25 PM | Link to this

    If I ever got so 10-8 that Flavor Koolaid…or whatever could be mistaken for Blair Underwood…I would wake up the next day and go to AA…lol…go get some help…for sure…I would not go there if I read braille.

    By lurker

    January 12, 2009 3:26 PM | Link to this

    What about those of us who are not trying to get married???…not everyone woman on this blog is trying to get hitched…personally, getting the attention of a man is not an issue…that is easier than keeping the rain off with an umbrella…wanting to be bothered with the associated issues is another question. Cosign and to that point Truth you can marry say at least 3 women by week end eh? Until the next weekend? Where are all those great relationships you bask about? Riiight you “chose” to walk just for the heck of it. And you gave them all up to be with yourself? How silly does that sound. Hey, I’ve got some ocean front property in Arizona I want you to personally buy. You ain’t no different than the rest of the average punk’d out dudes. Dang near fifty and on here spouting daily the misfits and bad decision of trashed women. You’re defective. Yeah there may be many women you’ve trashed during your life time but I just bet that cess pool is winding down for your behind as well as any woman over 40 that ain’t landed a man yet. I ain’t buying what you’re selling.

    Raqi 2:13 - I’ll cosign that.

    Angie If your posts are taken wrong 100 times a day by everyone then it must be you. Don’t you think? Just think before you write that’s all.

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this

    Foots Dang you said five minutes five minutes ago. My hand cramping.

    For Real now switching hands for five more minutes of searching.

    Raqi Did you just dose off while typing.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 3:28 PM | Link to this

    ForReal Thanks. I think u help my stock just go up.

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 3:28 PM | Link to this

    For Real I think this blog is laced up with good women. I do..and with decent character. I never said they are perfect but I think they are good decent women. The women on this blog that is!! LOL!

    Truth You are so funny…AMAZINGLY funny! Here is the gem…I am a youngster in the game and having a full fledge family and hubby does not say ANYTHING for or about my character or what kind of woman I am…that’s where you just dropped your fuggin ball. Thing is this…most ppl are screwing out of each pants leg while married with a few kids and a hubby. Having a ring NEVER speaks on the caliber AND quality of woman you are. REMEMBER! Lets first get that straight. MEN ARE WIFING…HO’S on a daily. Just because she can DO you 69 ways til sunday….know she has been around the block…But hey some of guys want a freak. You men do not want VIRGINS so save this. It’s oxymoronic to want a pure woman and freak…Decide which one. What do you have against women anyway? You riding down on us like you are the klan!! LOL.. Get over the girl who stomped your cookies in the 3rd grade? Move on!! You have let bad relationships change your character or else you would not have so many bitter things to say! SO TAKE your OWN medicine!

    Back to what I was saying! I am seeing women with 3-4 kids, section 8 recipents, welfare check, no job having gettin wifed in by a good EDUCATED dudes..Men have lower there standards..they do not want women of substance….(thus that’s why you have so many good women on this very blog!!) they want the winner who can give them the best sex.

    Thats why you have so many stories of these women taking these dudes to child support…Well that’s not me. for one I don’t have any for 2, I prefer a ring with man (GOD willing) ANNNNNNNDD! I have my own..I have too many things to do than to waste time draining you for your little ducketts…

    AND ANOTHER THING TRUTH Go sit your azz @ the CHILD SUPPORT OFFICCE for one day, FOR 2 hrs down and tell me what CALIBER of women do you see in there!!! JUST GO DO THAT then come back and tell me what TYPE of women you see! Most good women and mother dont have time to go and waste 4 hrs in a CHILD SUPPORT office because they have bills to make and kids to feed. ALOT of women don’t have any ORDERS in. For that reason…and aren’t looking forward to living off of your chump change. lol!

    I REST MY CASE!!

    By Kym-Proud Fan of the Steeler Nation and Jack Bauer Groupie

    January 12, 2009 3:30 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG Yeah she did. As the gay guy on the show said..Who was this had a fashion with no fashions..just dreadful.

    I was forced to watch that train wreak Thanksgiving with my cousins..I couldn’t stop thinking this is horrible..what the hell—the things we do for family

    Tell Bob keep his sense of humor..and make better choices next time. Better yet don’t choose at all. They should have a class for NFL Rookies and College Draft picks..How not to get got by Hoe

    By Tazzee

    January 12, 2009 3:30 PM | Link to this

    Cemeeli mail call, LOL

    By lurker

    January 12, 2009 3:31 PM | Link to this

    MisterO* is **Truth he just need someone in the amen corner with him. Most of the dudes on here seem like stand-up and not on some daily rant/mantra to berate women. They can engage in intelligent dialog but most will bypass on the berating of women so he needs a cosign….his alter ego

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 3:31 PM | Link to this

    * Desperate lurker* I gave them up because marraige isn’t in my plans. Whats in yours? LOL

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 3:31 PM | Link to this

    And right now, with this economy, many people are desperate, too did uall hear the actor at the Golden Globes, who dissed Guy Ritchie? said coz of the economy,Madaonna had decided to fire her personal assistant.He was blasting sympathies, we thinking of u Guy Ritch LMAOF,

    Fine by me. Unfortunately…to my little lady’s u are starting this thing wrong,sidestepping ur homies for the lil lady…LMAOF.If i cant come over there,then give me the freedom to arrange ur bachelors party.I can get a reservation at Strokkers on speed dial,im on name basis with manager there.We need to give u a resounding send-off with all the trimmings,favors etc,with all the blog hoes(men and women) in attendance.And that will be a good time to re-assess this thing,rather than capitulate on wedding day like they do,u do it the previous nite and we let Truth send ur girl a text that u wont make it on the morrow,u having fun!!

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 3:34 PM | Link to this

    FOR REAL

    Yeah that is number one..

    ACCOUNTABILITY….That’s it in a nutshell. Most flakey ppl you can not count on. Thats a great character trait!

    That is real!

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 3:35 PM | Link to this

    “Swiss did you say open bar?”

    I did, indeed, Staceye. You think you can hang? You know we whiteboys are genetically engineered for drinking. ;-)

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 3:39 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee right back at cha! Lol

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this

    Kimmie I see women don’t listen….I may come off brash but there is alot of truth in what I say…I have been yelling from the blog mountain tops this VERY same thing. lol!! Does anyone hear me???! Men are intimidated by this…trust it’s a blow to the ego. They see us and say…”what the hell can I DO FOR HER?” It’s a tough game for them when you can do for yourself. It forces them to step up and unmask their trueselves. Its a big play on a MAN’s manhood don’t get me started. lol!

    Truth - Before I went to my meeting the point I was trying to make is that most of the women on this blog have cars, houses, etc. Ole mista was acting like that’s all it takes to make women happy. We’ve got all that so you gotta come on here with more. He’s talking about a different breed of woman.

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this

    Kym

    They should have a class for NFL Rookies and College Draft picks..How not to get got by Hoe

    1)Sheree and Bob knew each for a long time before getting married. They’ve known each other roughly 14 years. They were one of the cases where they were/are better as friends than spouses. It happens.

    2)They do have classes for rookies. It is called the Rookie Symposium. We got all kinds of lectures/round tables, etc. Some things were about safety, money management and other things.

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this

    @i’m swiss

    Move over…give up the bar seat…got some Scotch-Irish in me…set it up…uh, what do you want me to do with you when I pick you up from the floor…j/k…lol

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 3:44 PM | Link to this

    Cosign and to that point Truth you can marry say at least 3 women by week end eh? Until the next weekend? Where are all those great relationships you bask about? Riiight you “chose” to walk just for the heck of it. And you gave them all up to be with yourself? How silly does that sound. Hey, I’ve got some ocean front property in Arizona I want you to personally buy. You ain’t no different than the rest of the average punk’d out dudes. Dang near fifty and on here spouting daily the misfits and bad decision of trashed women. You’re defective. Yeah there may be many women you’ve trashed during your life time but I just bet that cess pool is winding down for your behind as well as any woman over 40 that ain’t landed a man yet. I ain’t buying what you’re selling.

    LIL PUMA You are on fire…hotter than bankhead seafood fish grease..I am gonna need you to relax…Here take some wine…(two snaps up!!lol) I like your style PUMA

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 3:44 PM | Link to this

    You know we whiteboys are genetically engineered for drinking. ;-)

    Token I am crackin’ up at chu’! Lol last i heard we need genetically engeneered white friends. That’s what my gurl Courtney tells us when she wanna “roll out”…Lol

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 3:46 PM | Link to this

    ForReal, that Nixon quote is too funny. Thank you, I needed that!

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 3:47 PM | Link to this

    Check this out. This the application for Banks to get bailout money.

    http://www.sba.gov/idc/groups/public/documents/sbahomepage/guidelinetarp_capitalpurchase.pdf

    For Real National Bank

    .37 gas cards for all new deposits and multi-colored rubberbands for the kids.

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 3:48 PM | Link to this

    MELO — LOL @ Strokers. I went there once & all I can say is that place is aptly named. LOL See now, you shouldn’t be tempting me like that — I’m trying to be a reformed man-ho.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 3:48 PM | Link to this

    Angie, I’m not trying to prove anything. I’ve only posted 2x to you. Just making sure I understand you correctly. That’s all!

    By Mrs. Lurker

    January 12, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

    Truth I gave them up because marraige isn’t in my plans. Whats in yours? I guess you plan to randomly smash until you can’t get it up no more. Ain’t but a few more good years left for you mister. You’re well on your way to fizzle stick and becoming a senior citizen…not to appealing. Your stock drops by the year and you know it. Being alone on that sinking ship ain’t looking too good huh? I just bet, some of the chicks you’re trashing you’d jump at one of them to change you diaper in 20 years. Their stock is going up now huh? And my plans, far brighter than yours. For me when it’s done and husbands lay cold, relationships finished and we’re all six feet under? Heaven. Top that. Translation…why marry a woman who knows all my games and will not deal my BS because she has been there, done thar and bought the t-shirt. So I will find me a young stupid girl and mold her into the perfect spineless mindless twit I want her to be. She will be so in love with me and I don’t have to do anything because she is already amazed by my “maturity”.* Cosign Staceye *

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

    I am seeing women with 3-4 kids, section 8 recipents, welfare check, no job having gettin wifed in by a good EDUCATED dudes i wldnt say Usher is educated, but dude has role modelled a lot of young hip-hop generations with his Tameeka marriage.There is no precedent in what that lame dude did.I never knew of a cat who got blind sided by the sweet cookies the way this guy did.Reminds me of this tale from back home.They say u can alwayz tell a dude or dedette thats married,been married or has slung his dyckk/azz way too much by the way his strokes register on the rickter scale.On a young impresionable like Usher, Tameeka just got the home run.She may be ugly,but she must have some secret crab move on his dyck.

    By Mrs. Lurker

    January 12, 2009 3:50 PM | Link to this

    Truth I gave them up because marraige isn’t in my plans. Whats in yours? I guess you plan to randomly smash until you can’t get it up no more. Ain’t but a few more good years left for you mister. You’re well on your way to fizzle stick and becoming a senior citizen…not to appealing. Your stock drops by the year and you know it. Being alone on that sinking ship ain’t looking too good huh? I just bet, some of the chicks you’re trashing you’d jump at one of them to change you diaper in 20 years. Their stock is going up now huh? And my plans, far brighter than yours. For me when it’s done and husbands lay cold, relationships finished and we’re all six feet under? Heaven. Top that.

    Staceye Translation…why marry a woman who knows all my games and will not deal my BS because she has been there, done thar and bought the t-shirt. So I will find me a young stupid girl and mold her into the perfect spineless mindless twit I want her to be. She will be so in love with me and I don’t have to do anything because she is already amazed by my “maturity”. Cosign

    By Staceye AKA Black Mamba

    January 12, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

    Swiss You know we whiteboys are genetically engineered for drinking Sure man…I have drank with the white boys and they were amazed how I just fine after drinking just as much as they did an still managed to walk straight in 4 in stillettos! Go me…go me….it’s my birthday…go meeeeee!! LOL

    Hey..got any brothers or cousins that are tall and cute? LOL

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

    ForReal, that Nixon quote is too funny. Thank you, I needed that!

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 3:54 PM | Link to this

    Angie, I’m not trying to prove anything. I’ve only posted 2x to you. Just making sure I understand you correctly. That’s all!

    By Kym-Proud Fan of the Steeler Nation and Jack Bauer Groupie

    January 12, 2009 3:56 PM | Link to this

    NO, PoppaG There should be a underground class hosted by a Pimp Named Slick Back or something. Where guys who have gotten got..can testify to their mistakes and train others how to sniff out trouble. Stop the cycle of getting got before it starts. Teach the babies. Lawd knows Adam Jones and TO must have gotten F’s in those rookie classes hell did they even show up?

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 3:57 PM | Link to this

    They should have a class for NFL Rookies and College thats a waste ful class for hood-winking purposes.Most of the folk have not graduated anyway and a lot have high school acumen.They were simply speed- schooled for NFLpurposes.If Micheal Vick is not allowed to come back into the NFL, what else do u tink he can do other than dog fighting on the low low in tha back waters of rural Virginia.????.LMAO

    By Raqi

    January 12, 2009 3:59 PM | Link to this

    Angie is it stormy out your way?

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 4:01 PM | Link to this

    Oakland is getting ugly…has anyone seen the video of the shooting???

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

    Kym after reading this “How not to get got by Hoe” - I thought about David Alan Greer’s character on Chocolate News Ex-porn start Licorice Stick.

    Licorice Stick: Look hen yall youngbloods need to watch four des hoes now. You got to watch out for

  • The 3 Finga Twinky Flash

  • The Double Dokkie Slide

  • The Country Drive By

  • The Flushy Blow Torch

  • The Itchy Spida

  • The Uncle Smelly

  • The Number 1

  • The Number 2

  • By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

    Staceye/BlowMe, your post was on point.

    As usual, I’m hungry. Going to get my apple out fridge..be right back!

    By Wise Diva

    January 12, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

    looking at some of the comments, I would swear, some of you knew each other personally, LOL. Did I miss a blog meet up or something?

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 4:05 PM | Link to this

    M’Karyl & Staceye — That’s what I like to hear! In that case, I’m making the shots! :-)

    “Token I am crackin’ up at chu’! Lol last i heard we need genetically engeneered white friends. That’s what my gurl Courtney tells us when she wanna “roll out”…Lol”

    Cemeeli — That’s true. And the good thing about us, is that if when we’ve had enough to drink, we start buying drinks for everybody! LOL

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

    Kym

    *Where guys who have gotten got..can testify to their mistakes and train others how to sniff out trouble. *

    Yeah, I understood what you were saying. Yeah folks tell their story.

    In most cases, the youngsters get set up in a hypothetical situation to get their attention.

    I’ve told my hypo story about a trip in Miami:

    This chick and I were vibing at a bar in the lobby of one the hotels on South Beach. Eventually, she invites me up, and she closes the door. Then a few of my teammates jump out of the closet and school me.

    Every one gets something a little bit different.

    The tough thing though is as a pro athlete is just tough to know people’s intentions. Trust of others diminish somewhat. I’ve met women who did research online about me and my family before we even met. They knew addresses and what I “reportedly” made and I was a practice player for the most part. Professional athletes life is just out there for people to get. Trust is an issue. I still have trust issues with grown people. I didn’t settle down until out was done.

    There is always something risked in getting to know someone.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this

    Staceye/BlowMe, your post was on point.

    As usual, I’m hungry. Going to get my apple out fridge..be right back!

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this

    Lurker/Blow listen, both of you will be out of good eggs in just a few minutes. You’ll just be some dried up hags looking to adopt someone elses leftover kids.

    Here’s the skinny. No matter how you shake this thing your product is not in demand. Most of this is your doing. Your decision process has made you obsolete at at young age. Nobody wants to finance your fantasy, and thats what this all comes down to, having someone to cosign your dreams because apparently nobody else shares them with you. In todays society you have all the laws behind you but no man on your side. it just doesnt behoove a guy to take the long walk with you. Dont be stressed, there will be literally thousands of old biddies just like you talking about how if you had a good man you’d of made a great mom. Crickets

    When your stupid your whole body suffers and you must be in great pain.

    Tony Dungy is retiring today at 5.

    *MK8 oaklands always been a hell hole.

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 4:10 PM | Link to this

    WISE DIVA Nope…lol. Yeah it got a bit heated today as usual!

    Ms. Leggs Thank you..lol. Sometimes you got to do it!

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 4:10 PM | Link to this

    WISE DIVA Nope…lol. Yeah it got a bit heated today as usual!

    Ms. Leggs Thank you..lol. Sometimes you got to do it!

    By M'Karyl

    January 12, 2009 4:12 PM | Link to this

    @TRuth

    That is not what I meant…seems that the riots sparked by the shooting on NYE at the BART station is out of control…looks like they are sending in Fed intervention…I saw the video of the brother being shot…it was raw…and wrong.

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this

    Truth Go and read PUMA’S post. meditate on it. In your mind you have predicted my whole like at the ripe age of 28….sat down somewhere BROWN…and chill out. Someone show him some titty!!

    By Staceye AKA Black Mamba

    January 12, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this

    Swiss And the good thing about us, is that if when we’ve had enough to drink, we start buying drinks for everybody! OMG…so true! LMAO

    Thanks Leggs!!

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this

    That’s true. And the good thing about us, is that if when we’ve had enough to drink, we start buying drinks for everybody!

    Swiss Ah, i don’t drink. So i guess that’s why when i get an invite to a “Princess Party” and she makes sure i leave her home with a party gift. Just like at Luckie friday night i was the “money holder” while she got her drop-it-like-its-a-hot-white-girl moves, on, giving me her “fold”.

    She is very nice, loves to have fun, and very down to earth. We had a good time!

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this

    Too funny, we do know quite a few on here personally.

    By lurker

    January 12, 2009 4:17 PM | Link to this

    Blow Me seriously, I’m lurker* not **lil puma LOL…seriously. I’m just sick of a piece of a man that’s trashed women all of his young days and their good days and can only find humor in hearing how broken women are. Anybody can do that. Punk.

    Oh and Truth it’s Mrs. Lurker to you. I learned quite well and early on about men like you from a pack of brothers and a daddy that was there for his girls day in and day out…and still rolling with moms til this day, 55 years of marriage and still counting. Even sit my daughter and neices down and teaches them…that’s a man. Burns my butt to hear a brotha speak so dispectfully of his own especially when it’s negros like you that contributed to their demise. The good thing about being raised by men (i.e. brothers/dad) is you see about every representation of dudes that are on on the hunt. Brother #1, a straight up ho (like you), #2 a weedhead, #3 a yellow belly fake wannabe, #4 a standup brother and true all the way. Couldn’t pay him to mistreat a woman and trust, he had plenty of options. Yet and still they hoovered us girls (me and sisters)every step of the (dating) way and made certain we up on just about every take and game a brother could bring. We’d get (verbally) throat punched if we slipped even the slightest off our game in recognizing. Annnnd when we (i.e. sisters/mom) would see the ho of the fam mistreating and misusing women, we’d lay it out there and tell her exactly how she was being played. My point? Naw dude all women did learn by way of getting repeatedly trash all to wake up years later to discover it wasn’t a dream.

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 4:19 PM | Link to this

    Guys, i was at OSS, never mind what Blow is saying,we need to all make an effort and elect 50 and under as our congress pple and senators.Thereafter we change laws to make polygamy permissible.Once thats done, we good.We got a lwayer,Poppa to help us figure some things. Most of these congressmen and senators are polygamysts themeslevs(on the side) but that benefit is not available to us commoners.if u go to OSS,the theme is usaully,over 35,single and Availbale(just no takeres-LOL) With polygammy laws,we will have this thing tamed.There were only a sprinkling of dudes and iu was outnumbered,even when i tried to holler illegally coz queen was with me. LETS WORK ON THE NEXT ELECTIONS Guys.Get all the curent mfgas out,put in 50 and under crew!!!

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 4:19 PM | Link to this

    Kym

    Lawd knows Adam Jones and TO must have gotten F’s in those rookie classes hell did they even show up?

    If you were messed up before the NFL, you will just be a richer messed up person while in the NFL.

    Adama Jones and Terrell Owens both had some major personal issues growing up.

    Outside of football, I wouldn’t put TO in the same class as Adam Jones. You never hear of legal run-in with him. He takes care of his grandma who has alzheimer’s. That is who raised him. He does plenty of work with charities and such. He has a benefit at the Bowling alley at Atlantic Station for various charities.
    Other than tearing football teams apart, he is ok..lol

    Adam went Westlake here in ATL. He has been in trouble quite a bit period. His grandma wanted him to go away for college in hopes that he would get away from his crowd. She was on ESPN talking about she prays that he get to see his 26 birthday. Which Adam’s dad did not get to see.

    They are totally different.

    By Chink

    January 12, 2009 4:19 PM | Link to this

    LOL I see yall doing the usual on here…I hope all had a great holiday and a even better New Year!

    Good Times

    Peace!

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 4:19 PM | Link to this

    Too funny, we do know quite a few on here personally.

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 4:20 PM | Link to this

    swiss And the good thing about us, is that if when we’ve had enough to drink, we start buying drinks for everybody!

    I’m glad you said it, cause I was just about to post it. But truthfully, y’all walk in the door buying drinks for anybody within 20 feet. LOL

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 4:21 PM | Link to this

    when we’ve had enough to drink, we start buying drinks for everybody!

    Swiss Just thought about it. Courtney did ask me about 4 times if she could get me anything Friday night. What you said is valid (open invitation with her most times hangin’)..interesting. I cringed at the $3 Sprites….She was handling those “Southern Belles” though.

    By Willie Dynamite

    January 12, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

    WillieD strolling in all nonchalant

    sup

    Happy New Year

    By Staceye AKA Black Mamba

    January 12, 2009 4:23 PM | Link to this

    Lurker You just said a mouth full girl. OUCH! So true. These men want to claim women ain’t sh*t…well we learn form the best….MEN! Its only so many time that you can spit in somebody’s face before they start spitting in faces…but with better aim!

    By i'm swiss

    January 12, 2009 4:26 PM | Link to this

    “But truthfully, y’all walk in the door buying drinks for anybody within 20 feet. LOL”

    Foots — We cast a wide net. Hand out enough bait (alcohol) and you’re bound to get a nibble or two. ;-)

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 4:26 PM | Link to this

    Poppa Grande He did..so did. pacman, adam jones, keyaron fox and keith adams…..WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 99!! Those were the days..

    By Staceye AKA Black Mamba

    January 12, 2009 4:29 PM | Link to this

    Swiss I always get free drinks from “the boys”! LOL

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 4:30 PM | Link to this

    Poppa Grande He did..so did. pacman, adam jones, keyaron fox and keith adams…..WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 99!! Those were the days.. He was bad back then..not to this degree..he’s from the old “boat rock” if anyone from atlanta can remember

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 4:30 PM | Link to this

    WilleD What it do? You know i have a new claim to the New Year.

    How are you?

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 4:30 PM | Link to this

    Lurker seems like your family is full of the cats your trying to stay away from. Is this supposed to support your claim? And your father wouldn’t have been married 55 years had he had to be with you, as your daughters father probably knows. lol

    Listen, all you have to do is look around and see that nobodies trying to ride that long with you. Even your childs father bolted. You can argue to me because I know their’s nobody else going to listen to you. So get it off your chest. But in the end whether a cats smiling at you or calling you a ish neither want to take that long walk with you.

    By Stormy

    January 12, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this

    Kym

    Amen!!! I agree 100% about your class for Pro sports players. Matter of fact, they should teach it to all incoming college “star” freshmen sports players too. LOL

    By Foots

    January 12, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this

    melo Seriously, as much grief as you guys say you get from one wife, you want to double or triple up on that AND have a moral obligation to support them as their husband? I don’t think even you would want to go there…

    off topic I want to get back to writing a little this year and I wrote two nice blogs on my MySpace page this weekend about relationships and a few lessons I’ve learned. But as soon as I wrote them, I marked them as private so nobody could see them but me. I got shy about my writing, plus, I feel a little funny letting my SO read some of the things I learned as it relates to him. Nothing in there should be offensive to him and I’d never diss our relationship in public, so it’s nothing like that. I’d just feel so naked if went on and read my words, like I’m showing my cards or something. I’m a scary punk. sigh

    Maybe I’ll let him read it and we can discuss. If he’s okay with them and not offended in the least, I’ll put them up…. What y’all think?

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 4:36 PM | Link to this

    raqi not stormy at all. very nice and chilly. :-)

    lurker Angie If your posts are taken wrong 100 times a day by everyone then it must be you. Don’t you think? Just think before you write that’s all. i wasn’t referring just to me you idiot! lol. sheesh

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 4:37 PM | Link to this

    Blow

    pacman, adam jones, keyaron fox and keith adams

    Even though Pacman and Adam Jones being the same person, you’re right. Westlake has represented well.

    Douglass has put a few in the NFL as well.

    By Willie Dynamite

    January 12, 2009 4:39 PM | Link to this

    Similac Im real good now. Ruff start to the New yr (been sick as a dog). Back in the swang of things now.

    By Angie

    January 12, 2009 4:40 PM | Link to this

    am i the only one looking at 3:26 sideways? if i did some shiit like that all h3ll would break loose up in this mug!!!

    By For Real

    January 12, 2009 4:41 PM | Link to this

    Foots Shoot me some of your writing. for_real730@yahoo.com

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 4:43 PM | Link to this

    Blow

    He was bad back then..not to this degree.

    He broke back then. Also, back then, who really cared about him. ESPN didn’t care about him, Dallas or Nashville (Tennessee Titans.)

    He managed to get into trouble at West Virginia quite regularly. However, it just got swept under the rug because he could play ball.

    By Mrs. Lurker

    January 12, 2009 4:43 PM | Link to this

    Truth Yeah go ahead and spin it but my bothers are you and all the other cats out there lurking. My point was, I had plenty examples of what to do versus not. Well maybe you are slow cause I don’t know what the heck you talking about my daughters fathers sorry love don’t have any of those either. I was speaking of me and my sisters. What an ignoramis. Gheesh. You need to learn something other than azz azz and getting azz Let them be what they are. I only have gratitude that they didn’t let any of us, their sisters catch flack or hell from trifling dudes. And furthermore you ignoramis, my moms and pops are married and have been for 55 years and still kicking. Simply enough for you? I know we ain’t speaking on azz so it’s a little hard to comprehend.

    By Blow Me

    January 12, 2009 4:44 PM | Link to this

    Papa yeah…pacman, potman…yeah yeah.. lol..

    By Tazzee

    January 12, 2009 4:45 PM | Link to this

    Foots LOL - it’s ok. I think you should let your SO read it and if he agrees, post it on your myspace page.

    Your other option is to get an anonymous blog and post your stuff there. You should let your SO see that also, but the people reading won’t know it’s you and him so you won’t feel like all your friends know your personal stuff.

    By (The Original) Little Puma

    January 12, 2009 4:46 PM | Link to this

    By the way, I don’t think having kids makes you one either. Once again, you just come on here an apply selective reading to make a point about me that doesn’t even apply. You can be the president of my fan club though, since you’re so concerned.

    Selective reading, eh?…I will partially agree that you give some bloggers on here too much attention (not to your defense). But some of this you bring upon yourself. People will have SOMETHING to say regarding some of your post, but I can almost bet it is not out of admiration.

    While it’s obvious some bloggers know one another, some of us tend to forget what/how much we’ve divulged (repeatedly), so it’s not difficult to remember what folks put out there.

    You’re still a pro of doing the backstroke, I see. As I remember correctly, YOU put kids into the equation (several times), so that is where my response comes from.

    …and btw, I’m clearly not a fan of yours, so it looks to me that you’ve been reaching for some time now.

    Out of the equation you say, according to Truth ALL WOMEN are ho3s and ALL MEN are tricks; this was his response to your comment on Diddy and Kim, and there was no rebuttal, clarification, naything from YOU. I guess because it was Truth who posted that dumbazz response. Especially since today he’s saying he supposes there are some nice women out there.

    Yes, we know that his word is not bond, however, it’s evident you hardly ever dispute the dumbness going by how much you ride his dyck the way that you do. But another blogger can reiterate the very same thing, in an attempt to show him (to include you) of how dumb you (both) look on here.

    This is why you’re non-exempt from the equation.

    From what it looks like on here, going from one failed relationship to the next, whether or not children were produced out of the relationship, more than likely giving/getting azz was or will be involved…whether or not, the woman was whorish while partaking.

    Many of the men on here, speak of a woman having too much time on the tracks…I honestly do not see their (nor your) point(s) or where there would be much of a difference.

    We’ve all gotten phlucked and most have had more than one relationship in their lifetimes. Soooo, if that’s their definitions of a whhore, then it sounds to me like you or ANY woman could be part of the equation…let some of them tell it.

    That’s the big picture that I see, yet you choose to go back n’ forth with me; even though I am not the first to point out the bs.

    …and Blow that was not me at 3:26, but it was funny.

    By Poppa Grande

    January 12, 2009 4:47 PM | Link to this

    Foots

    Seriously, as much grief as you guys say you get from one wife, you want to double or triple up on that AND have a moral obligation to support them as their husband?

    I actually agree with that. You will NEVER see me advocating polygamy.

    Shiiiddd, I don’t even watch Big Love on HBO. Its just something that I can’t understand.

    I’ve been to Salt Lake City once and didn’t leave the airport. Mormons can have that polygamy stuff.

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 4:50 PM | Link to this

    Glad you’re better WillieD. Was it that flubug got on you?

    The remix version of that is grandma’s concoction of brown likka, honey, and some tea…yea you know

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this

    Foots, please let him read before you post on blog.

    By The Truth

    January 12, 2009 4:53 PM | Link to this

    lurker bytch your taking this way tooo serious. Apparently you didnt learn much from your parents because you sound like just another busted broad looking for a cat to carry you. Dump that venom on the cats that dumped you.. LOL

    By Cemeeli

    January 12, 2009 4:55 PM | Link to this

    Foots I would like to see your writings. And you’re shyness about it, I think it’s nice you put his concerns in your “not-so-sure”.

    Do what’s in your heart.

    By MELO

    January 12, 2009 4:56 PM | Link to this

    We’ve all gotten phlucked thats candid and nice.Hiding that wont help anyway.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 4:57 PM | Link to this

    Foots, please let him read before you post on blog.

    By lurker

    January 12, 2009 4:57 PM | Link to this

    Angie Did you have to pull out old Webster to write the word idios? With the crap you posted and divulged, don’t eva call anyone other than yourself that, k? Who’s a bigger idiot than you? You’re getting insulted left and right on this mug and tag it with an LOL how stupid or much more stupid will you get? Even to those that post sort of amicably, that’s always that underlying hint of smirk in their post at you being such a simpleton.

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 5:01 PM | Link to this

    Good night everyone!

    Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

    Say a kind word to someone this evening (even if it’s too a picture)!

    By Leggs

    January 12, 2009 5:06 PM | Link to this

    Good night everyone!

    Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

    Say a kind word to someone this evening (even if it’s too a picture)!

    By lurker

    January 12, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this

    Truth name calling eh? Yeah, I loves to meet a brother that’s only good for putting down the wounded. Bring it baby. I can roll with the best of them anyday. Now that you’ve resorted to name calling, I digress and my job is done. Got under your collar. Yeah, a standup cat you say.

    To clarify my 4:43 post to anyone on Truth’s team that may want to discest. I have one daughter’s father not many…

    My job is done and I digress.

    Truth Come back tomorrow respecting women or you’ll get another spanking. LOL

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 5:08 PM | Link to this

    OG Puma, I’m not in the practice of reading 12 mile blog rants, especially from folks that make no sense.

    You can’t think what you want about me…you still won’t be right. And if you are trying to prove some point you have yet to do so.

    So basically, if you want to continue wasting keystokes responding to me, it’s your business, but you might as well save those 10 minutes typing on doing something actually productive.

    Just trying to help your crazy azz out.

    By lurker

    January 12, 2009 5:09 PM | Link to this

    Truth Resorted to cussing now eh? My job is done. My point is taken.

    Truth in case you want to disect my 4:43, that’s one daughter’s father/husband not many. Now come back tomorrow and be more respectful of the women you helped trash or else it’s another tongue thrashing for you K?

    By (The Original) Little Puma

    January 12, 2009 5:26 PM | Link to this

    AmazonRed

    *I’m not in the practice of reading 12 mile blog rants, especially from folks that make no sense.

    You can’t think what you want about me…you still won’t be right. And if you are trying to prove some point you have yet to do so. So basically, if you want to continue wasting keystokes responding to me, it’s your business, but you might as well save those 10 minutes typing on doing something actually productive. Just trying to help your crazy azz out.

    Smh …looks like you need a little more help than me. I’d advise you to keep the little you have to yourself.

    Yet not only did you read my 12 mile rant, (seeing how you “got ghost), you actually responded. Looks like you’re trying hard to convince yourself.

    And yes, I will continue to believe AND POST, as I choose.

    By AmazonRed

    January 12, 2009 5:29 PM | Link to this

    OG Puma, good for you. You’re the one stalking my every post. No I didn’t read your 12 mile rant. After the first knew it was gonna be nothing but nonsense.

    I know I’m adored and you seem to be obsessed with me, but find another hobby.

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