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What’s In A Word?

You know that old saying, “Actions speak louder than words”, right? Well, what do you do when the words make you cringe? I know that for me, first impressions go a long way. Whenever I meet a guy who trashes the English language, uses excessive profanity, or has a little limited in vocabulary, I find it hard to take him seriously.

It may sound picky, but I think that it is a compatiblility issue. I don’t know how well I could get along with someone like this, and believe me, I’ve tried it. My inner English teacher kicks in and I spend my time fighting the urge to correct him.

Is a poor vocabulary a deal breaker for you? Is this something that could actually turn you off?

Do you think that it is harsh to judge a person’s vocabularly or language? What does it really say about them, if anything?

Are you someone that uses poor language or uses excessive profanity? Does it impact your dating? Have you ever dated someone who was? How did you handle it?

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By Raqi

December 30, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Good Morning.

LOL This past week my brother was talking about when my youngest was in his “what the hell…?” stage. (i.e. “mama what the hell are you doing?”) He was about 2 years old. He undeniably picked it up from me. That was during my angry years. I used profanity a lot as a way to release frustration. And I imagine it was a turn off for many men. But hell at the time I didn’t care. When I get angry I will do it now.

Now more on topic, no a limited vocabulary is not a deal breaker however poor vocabulary is. I don’t get turned on by the mere use of “big words”. I believe you can have a meaningful conversation with the use of common layman vocabulary. My mother was an English and extremely intelligent and admired by those who knew her. But she was just an every day woman that was able to relate to any one because she believed in common communications. The smartest most intelligent person in the room is the one who can address the room on a level that everyone there can understand.

What tickles me is the person who thinks above the common communicator and can’t grasp what is being said. So no I don’t need an overly extensive conversation from a man. Just talk to me, enlighten me and make occasionally make me laugh.

But then again if you are dumb as a rock you won’t hold my attention for long.

By Kym

December 30, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All,

My aunt always says you can have all the book sense in the world and no common sense.

A person with poor vocabulary… I don’t think it says anything about them other than they didn’t pay attention much in English class. It doesn’t mean they are stupid.

IMO there are different degrees of intelligence. For example, anyone who can take a car engine apart, put it back together while telling you all about each nut, bolt, and spring is highly intelligent.

Vocabulary doesn’t bother me so much as hearing a guy or gal use the phrases..“You know what I’m saying, You follow me, or You feel me?” after ever freaking sentence.

By Raqi

December 30, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

But then again if you are dumb as a rock…(cont’d).

That is the difference in having a limited knowledge base versus a limited use of vocabulary. I like a guy that can talk to me about pretty much anything. That is what I find all the men that I had relationships with have in common. They all know a lot about a lot of stuff. (that’s “things”, “matters”, “issues”). And most of that stuff I found to be pretty much factual. And that that wasn’t, they (Mase especially) present a very convincing argument of their opinion or theory.

I don’t think it is harsh to judge a person when they obviously don’t care to use proper English or excessive profanity. But don’t judge them when their “usual” don’t match your…uhhh…”inevitable”.

By Yes

December 30, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

It is absolutely a deal breaker. Communication is a fundamental element of a relationship.

By Cemeeli

December 30, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

…morning…

How cute it this topic…

I’m not a “cusser” but its funny how someone has tried to get me to say a certain “choice word” just to see if i “have it in me”…

Is a poor vocabulary a deal breaker for you? Is this something that could actually turn you off?

A person using profanity is a non-issue for me…but I can relate with you WiseDiva. I too, want a person to use proper english.

Uncle Frank said, ain’t nothing like a cuss-word. It bring just the right expression to pyss people off.

By QC-HAPPY NEW YEAR

December 30, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Morning Kym, Raqi…everyone I always try to use correct english & Profanity isn’t in my choice of words unless i’m really upset…I recently met someone from AlbanyGa and everytime he said the words..back or set it comes out like bike or sat and i just laugh and mess with him about it…I have a problem when dating someone who curses a lot that really gets on my nerves…I hope you all have a great day and a HAPPY NEW YEAR :)

By The Uneducated Raqi

December 30, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

One thing that is a major turn on for me is a man that is willing to say he doesn’t know and is willing to let you tell (teach) him. While I like a man who is able to talk about any and every thing I do not like a know-it-all. For me that is a person who hogs the conversation whether they know what they are talking about or not, and then when you try to inform them they are not up for listening.

By The Uneducated Raqi

December 30, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

A major turn off is men who can’t refer to women as any thing other than bytches, hos, tricks, pieces. That right there will get you left alone. And instead of John Doe, that man, or the gentlemen they have to say that “muflucker”.

By Raqi

December 30, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Good Morning QC.

By Cemeeli

December 30, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

correction:

Uncle Frank said, ain’t nothing like a cuss-word. It bring just the right expression to pyss mofos off.

I have another unc that allow his kids to cuss with and around him… but he will not allow them to do so with other aunts/elders in the family (they dont either). Their relationship is quite cool, and they tell their dad everything. It’s a real scene to see them fools cut-up like they do…

By Stormy

December 30, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Morning All

Vocabulary is not as important as knowing how to effectively communicate with others.

I’m not impressed with someone using “big words.” But what I’m impressed with is…someone who can be in a room with people of various backgrounds/education levels/occupations and being able to communicate with any of them on an intelligent level.

What I don’t like is someone who speaks in a lot of slang or uses all of the “hip hop” buzz words in every sentence. Soooo unattractive…IMO

By DreamsMaterialize

December 30, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

Hey Everyone I think there’s a difference between someone who has a command of the English language but consciously decides to relax their grammar from time to time and someone who uses bad grammar because they really have no clue. I, like many of us, work in corporate america, giving presentations and pitching ideas all the time. If my grammar weren’t stellar in that setting, then no one would ever take my ideas seriously. But when I’m dating, I don’t want to feel like I’m presenting; just want to be comfortable and relax. Besides, EVERYONE uses slang or idomatic expressions. Are we saying we’re picky about WHICH grammatical flaws are acceptable?

By Raqi

December 30, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Do I hear an echo?

By B.D.S

December 30, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

QC most of my family is from Albany Ga and Leesburg, lol quit cracking.. Bad Grammar,poor vocabulary, can be a turn off… I was an Air Force kid growing up,, and I realized that other races never had an issue with bad vocab.. It was only when we moved off the Base and into a regular neighborhood and public high school.. That I found out I was corny for speaking proper.. and I remember dumbing it down to try to fit in.. Now that Im grown, I try to over look bad vocab, but if she cusses heavily,, thats a deal breaker!!

By Cemeeli

December 30, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

…ya’ll aren’t necessarily suggesting that a person who uses profanity, is the same as a person that has a weak, or no vocabulary skills, are you?

The ability to us proper verbiage, is a different…

By mel

December 30, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Everyone in my family has an advanced degree in either law, medicine, business or history. Education is obviously a priority to all of us. Bad grammar, vocabulary or command of the English language is a deal breaker for me.

By Kym

December 30, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Hi QC Merry New Year to you too!

Raqi that is not something my son picked up from me. He is more the type to say “Mom say excuse me for cussing” I am a “cusser”..not in every sentence. But I will cuss.. alot if given air, opportunity, and I am pushed.

I remember one time my sister had a old friend of the family to call me. Instead of saying this is so and so he is on the phone playing the guessing game.

Mystery Man-Guess who this is?

Kym- “Is it blah blah?”

Mystery Man-No, guess again..

Kym- I don’t want to guess..

Mystery Man- Just guess.

My sister quickly grabbed the phone and said please tell her who you are before she cusses you out. She was right he was 5 seconds from having his ears bleed. Turns out he was old church member/minister.

By Cemeeli

December 30, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Dreams 9:33

i’m saying too…i read some more of the comment and see where it could get twisted….

By LHE

December 30, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

I don’t think that a limited vocabulary is a deal breaker. So long as you are communicating effectively and have a solid grasp of basic grammar.

The extensive use of slang might be a deal breaker however. As well as someone who feels the need to comment every time I use a “big” word. And words like covet ( I had a friend ask me what that meant recently) is NOT a “big” word!

By Stormy

December 30, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Uneducated Raqi

Funny….but all so true.

Kym 8:57 post——>Completely on point.

Back in the day…I could cuss with the best of them….until my aunt heard me and told me how unattractive it was and I should know betta.

I think my father invented cussing. He cussed about everything and he was smooth with it.
We could ask my daddy anything and he would start the sentence off with ssshhhytttt. LOL

It does make me sad when I hear parents cussing at there kids….I heard this lady in the grocery store tell her kids:

Get yo m/f azz in that g/d cart b4 I beat yo monkey azz in this m/f sto. And u no I don’t gives a damm if des crackers call the m/f police…and I’ll beat dey azz too if dey try to tell I can’t whup yo azz. Now, get yo azz in that damm cart and shut the pluck up

The kids were like 3 & 4 yrs old. I felt bad for them. Actually, I was kinda scared myself she might beat my azz for staring.

By Tazzee

December 30, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Morning All!

Bad vocabulary has never been a deal breaker for me. Excessive use of profanity would be. Especially the use of certain words. I have one guy friend that makes a conscious effort not to use certain words. Sometimes he slips and then he corrects himself - I appreciate that. He doesn’t realize that he gets points from me, because that shows he respects me and he remembers what I said over 4 months ago.

There are certain things that can get under my skin but sometimes people can’t help it - for instance when folks can’t say ‘str’ correct and it comes out ‘skr’ I briefly dated a guy with that ‘issue’ and I would try my best to use synonyms for words like strong and street so I wouldn’t have to hear his version.

By RELL - 2009

December 30, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

@kym - you feel me….lol

ummmmm another aspect of comminucation is voice infliction and body language…you cant judge everything from speech….but i do believe that communication for women is like sex for men!

thing is we all at some point relax our speech so why is it a dealbreaker up front..to me thats being ultra picky on something real small….

By Leggs

December 30, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Good morning everyone. A limited vocabulary is not a deal breaker. However, bad grammar is. A lazy tongue is a deal breaker. If I have to spend most of my time correcting your English, then it’s a done deal. Using big words to appear intelligent in the wrong context will only have me looking at you sideways and eventually saying something to you. Of course, we all use slang, but when it boils down to conversing with others, I need you to use English the way it was meant to be used.

By "E"

December 30, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

I too consider myself a master of the English language. However, when I met my current beau, who happens to be Jamaican, I had to throw everything to the side. He’s highly intelligent with degrees in both International Business and Finance.

However, he has an ability to “kill an ‘h’” after every ‘t’…you know three becomes tree and also speak in “broken” French and English. For me this is only a cultural difference and it has taught me to be more accepting of people as to who they are and not to how they speak.

By MELO

December 30, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Is a poor vocabulary a deal breaker for you? Is this something that could actually turn you off? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and if u use lots of profanity in every other sentence, i may relate to what u saying or grasp it but wont be with u in spirit.Even profanity has its place but not in every day communication.If thats who u are,I pass.

Happy New Year People!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By elladee

December 30, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Yes, I am completely turned off by someone who uses consistent profanity in their everyday language, and/or someone who uses incorrect English in their everyday language. It doesn’t mean they aren’t intelligent, but it’s about as exciting as bad body odor.

By Leggs

December 30, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Good morning everyone. A limited vocabulary is not a deal breaker. However, bad grammar is. A lazy tongue is a deal breaker. If I have to spend most of my time correcting your English, then it’s a done deal. Using big words to appear intelligent in the wrong context will only have me looking at you sideways and eventually saying something to you. Of course, we all use slang, but when it boils down to conversing with others, I need you to use English the way it was meant to be used.

By RELL - 2009

December 30, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

@Stormy

We could ask my daddy anything and he would start the sentence off with ssshhhytttt. LOL

IS YOUR DADDY NAMED CLAY DAVIS…LOL

@tazzee…..and dont think i forgot that I WON THE LEAGUE FINALLY….i feel much better know that a “girl” is not the winner…lol….it was so TOUGH to beat you hell it has taken what TWO YEARS…lol

By Cemeeli

December 30, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Tazzee Like someone told me, it’s they way you carry yourself that will make a person that DO cuss like a sailor, will not be potty mouth around you…

Maybe that is why your friend finds hisself correcting/apologetic when one slips. IMO

By MELO

December 30, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

for instance when folks can’t say ‘str’ correct and it comes out ‘skr’ why cant they say it correctly……?? i wld dismiss them as simpletons……A woman doing that?? i wldnt give her daylight….

By i'm swiss

December 30, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

I was an English major, so a firm command of the language is certainly something I gravitate toward. I am not, however, a grammar Nazi — there are settings where formalities can be set aside. My biggest pet peeve is when people try to sound smart & just fail miserably — i.e. if anyone ever utters “conversate” around me I can never take them seriously again. LOL

Sadly, my fiance, for whom English is a third or forth language, has a better grasp of the language than most native speakers.

By DreamsMaterialize

December 30, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

RELL thing is we all at some point relax our speech so why is it a dealbreaker up front..to me thats being ultra picky on something real small I feel you bruh. What I hate more than bad grammar are people who make judgements about your character based on your grammar. Your grammar really has nothing to do with your character, just your style of communicating.

I need you to use English the way it was meant to be used. I feel where you’re coming from, but no one speaking the english language speaks it the way it was meant to be spoken. Use of the English language changes with time. And who gets to decide how the language is supposed to be used? Some people in England might be appalled at how we “butcher” the language. Everyone speaking the English language uses idioms everyday, and idioms by definition aren’t the intended use of the English language.

By AmazonRed

December 30, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Morning everyone. I agree with WiseDiva: “Whenever I meet a guy who trashes the English language, uses excessive profanity, or has a little limited in vocabulary, I find it hard to take him seriously.”

I’ll give a guy a chance, but if he is guilty of the above, chances are, it’s not going to work. Same goes for guys who try to use big words and use them incorrectly. Thick accents don’t work for me either usually.

By the way, I know this is a southern thing… but “on tomorrow” or “on yesterday” or “on today” is NOT correct english. I know I’m fighting a losing battle with this here in GA, but please, correct that ish. It’s SOOOOO irriating to hear that “I’ll meet you ‘on tomorrow’” crap! LOL Is that what they’re teaching in the schools?

By Raqi

December 30, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

Kym I assure you at 2 years old he got it from me. I was sooooo angry at the world. I would walk into a room where there would be a mess and would blare out “what the hell is this mess on the floor?” Everything was WTH. There were several times when I would be thinking something worse and a few times I did say, but thankfully he only picked up on the hell. He did say “oh shizznick” once but it didn’t stick.

When he got older I wasn’t as angry but I did vent my frustrations verbally but not as profane as before. When he heard me he would say “ma needs a hug”. When Mase came into the picture and into our lives he would tell him, “Mase you need to go give mom a hug”. That boy is my heart.

By Stormy

December 30, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Rell

Heeelll Nawh!! LOL

By Cemeeli

December 30, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

melo is onto the issue of enunciating words, verses profanity.

I think we’re going to go down two, maybe three different issues of subjects that should be split.

One: Profanity/Cussin’

Two: Vocabulary/Pruniciation

By Leggs

December 30, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Hey Melo, funny you appeared. When I was typing “a lazy tongue” I said to myself thank goodness Melo isn’t here to harp on that and here you are. How ya doin?

I see I’m still double posting. UGGHH! Anyway, WD, there’s always a silver lining in everything. Your post count at the end of the day will be high thanks to my double posting (LOL).

By RELL - 2009

December 30, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

@RED

By the way, I know this is a southern thing… but “on tomorrow” or “on yesterday” or “on today” is NOT correct english. I know I’m fighting a losing battle with this here in GA, but please, correct that ish. It’s SOOOOO irriating to hear that “I’ll meet you ‘on tomorrow’” crap! LOL Is that what they’re teaching in the schools?

YOU SO BOUGIE…..LOL…..but guess what i use to think the same thing when i first heard it….lol….or mash the button…that one kills me…lol….what about ursher or erange….lol…….or erion..lo

By Tazzee

December 30, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

melo how are you? I don’t know why they can’t say it properly. I have a female friend that is intelligent, an entrepreneur, owns properties, etc - but she can’t say street. Now she knows this and uses other words. Maybe if she REALLY tried to work on it, she could - I don’t know. I never really got into an in depth conversation with anyone about it. I do know that when I hear it, it’s like nails on a chalkboard.

Rell congrats, you snatched that tropy right out of my hands. I hope John Abraham sacks Kurt Warner 6 times on Saturday for his sorry performance that day. sorry sucka got me 0.5 points! $%&#@^%* <= me cussing, LOL.

By Leggs

December 30, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Dreams, your right. No one uses the English language the way it was meant to be used that’s why I’m still searching. I love words and love learning new ones. Webster and I are very dear friends. You same some people in England would be appalled, I would say most people in Englang would be appalled. English is one of the hardest languages to master.

By Leggs

December 30, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Hey Melo, funny you appeared. When I was typing “a lazy tongue” I said to myself thank goodness Melo isn’t here to harp on that and here you are. How ya doin?

I see I’m still double posting. UGGHH! Anyway, WD, there’s always a silver lining in everything. Your post count at the end of the day will be high thanks to my double posting (LOL).

By Cemeeli

December 30, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

correction: Pronunciation

i’m swiss Where is she from? When’s the date?

By Stormy

December 30, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Melo

  • Skrawberry, skreet, skraight

  • urnenge = orange

  • Georgia-er/Atlanta-er/Florida-er Chicago-er

  • By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

    AR

    LOL. Welcome to the south. “On tomorrow” is correct here. It is how we figure out native and non-natives. It is like New Yorkers using “son” after every sentence. “What’s Up, Son?” “How the fam, Son?” “Can I get those ends, Son.” Don’t make me have to cut ya, son.”

    “On tomorrow” is as southern as 12 gauge shotguns and ice tea. It ain’t goin’ nowhere.

    “On tomorrow” is what grandma and grandpa says. I heard it from my grandparents, and other people’s grandparents especially in old country churches.

    It is kinda like my grandma asking me to “Carry her to the store” and I’d think to myself, ” she really doesn’t expect me to do that does she?”. I knew better than to correct her.

    By RELL - 2009

    December 30, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

    @TAZZ…yes i feel good to creep in and take it all…but umm i am bummed about my money league…dec 1 i was in first place clear sailing…i drop every game this month and go from first to second…so i only win 500 dollars…when i could have won 700 dollars…i am pi ssed about that….and i blame TO lack of production

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

    Dreams, your right. No one uses the English language the way it was meant to be used that’s why I’m still searching. I love words and love learning new ones. Webster and I are very dear friends. You same some people in England would be appalled, I would say most people in Englang would be appalled. English is one of the hardest languages to master.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

    Kym - I’m with you. The fastest way to ge a dial tone in your ear is to do that “guess who this is” thing on the phone. You called me…I’m not trying waste my time playing games. I’m like “call me when you’re finished wasting my time” click lol

    Rell, I’ve never heard “mash the button” what the heck does that mean?

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

    The ability to speak grammatically correct English is an ability that is learned through education, environment and such…this is sometimes impacted very greatly by regional/cultural/ethnic dialects…this in and of itself does not comprehensively indicative of a person’s intelligence, but it does however convey a certain command of language skills…i.e. when a person says “I have rode…” instead of “I have ridden…” or “pacific” instead of “specific”…yes, this can be a bit distracting and for me it stands out like a glaring spotlight…but I would not discriminate against the individual.

    And the ability to use a “big words” does not necessary convey intelligence or an excellent command of the English language…especially when one does so in a manner to “impress” others with their vocabulary…or in a demeaning and derisive manner towards others…for example, I have an acquaintance who takes pleasure in using the 12 to 15 “big words” in his vocabulary quite often, whether that ppl with whom he is speaking understands them or not…it seems to boost his self-esteem and ego…how sad…but when the shoe is on the other foot, he takes great offense in it…imagine that…he infers that he is being spoken down to…ummm.

    Effective communication is being able to articulate on a level with others that is mutually understood based upon the context of the conversation…..there are synonyms for a reason…and if a person can not use the simple words to convey what the big words mean…then IMO, that person is being arrogant, condescending and rude to speak with a manner of language that is beyond another person’s ability to comprehend…that is not communication.

    And well, when it comes to those four letter words…truly my bad because I can use them fluently and frequently…all in the appropriate audience of course…this is not an excuse…it is my own sorry reason…just a bad habit I have chosen to monitor, but not break.

    With that said, a person with grammatically correct English speaking skills and a reasonable vocabulary would not turn me off…but poorly spoken English would be very difficult for me to handle.

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

    I don’t know who started the improper use of ‘myself’ but EVERYBODY from athletes to company execs have been using that word incorrectly. I don’t know if it’s a recent fad or I just started paying attentions - but that irks the heck out of me.

    That irks me more than words like conversate because I only hear that once and awhile. But the improper use of myself? I hear that ALL the time. “This new process was developed by myself and the other division managers….”

    By RELL - 2009

    December 30, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

    @red..dont worry you will hear it soon enough…go to a store and let one of your cousins try to ring something up….and they may not know how to..someone..somewhere will say “mash that button right there”….lol..or my favorite..you have to mash the b button for the spin move..lool

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

    Welcome to the south. “On tomorrow” is correct here.

    No, PG, “on tomorrow” is USED here. It’s not correct here, or anywhere. LOL

    But yeah, I’m just coming to accept it. But I’ll never use it.

    Well, that’s what I said when I moved to the Oakland area and everyone says “h.ella.” Us kids from L.A. were like “we’ll never say that stupid ish!” And sure enough, I can’t get “h.ella” out of my vocab now! LOL

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

    melo Get this; when some ppl change dialect summa the words sound a lil “off”. so when you speak zulu it is surely the same…okay.

    By Kym

    December 30, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

    Red Regional dialects in the US are no different than in any other part of the world. I am determine to figure out cockney..(its part of my obsession with everything British)

    I find it funny how “hip-hop” language has made it’s way into the mainstream. *Thank you Hollyweird”

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

    LEGGS It’s like I’m seeing double everytime I read you. lol I say some people in England because we could also look at them and point to certain regions where they “butcher” the language too. The English language is “butchered” everyday in media, schools, corporations by so-called educated people. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard so-called educated people pronounce the t in “often”. Completely incorrect, but so what. That mistake in pronounciation is made so much that in a few years it will probably be accepted as common usage. Same is true for lots of other words. I mean there’s obviously no excuse to communicate like you just left the plantation, but I’m generally not too hard on people. One of the great things about the English language is poetic license.

    By The Uneducated Raqi

    December 30, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

    Being a - nal is also a turn off.

    By i'm swiss

    December 30, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

    @Cemeeli — She’s Haitian & the date is August 29. :-)

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

    Also in the south, the word be is over used. They have figured out how to use be in every freakin’sentence.

    I be, you be, we be….gets on my nerves.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

    @PG

    Yep, jes lak fixin to, done did, done got, and sech de likes…lol…the Southern dialect has created its own unique enunciatin and pronunciation of the English language, but there is still a big difference between a dialectic speech pattern and speaking bad English.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

    there she is…

    M’Karyl …thanks for the breakdown. Your other *bloghalf throws up the peace sign…and says*

    Have a gud”un.

    lol

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

    I’ve heard “mash the button”, but never heard “On tomorrow” What does that mean???

    I hate the word “conversate” and I loathe “getting my hair did.” I remember a telemarketer calling me a few years back. She was very personable over the phone until she used the word “conversate.” I informed her that “conversate” was not a word. She was genuinely surprised. Asked her to make a conscious effort to never use the word again. I was surprised when Beyonce used it in one of her songs!

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

    this in and of itself is not comprehensively indicative of a person’s intelligence, but it does however convey a certain command of language skills oops…correction…bad editing here…lol

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

    A young lady that worked for me in Houston used to say she needed to go ‘make groceries’ - that tickled me!!! She was from New Orleans. I’ve only heard one other person say that and she was from NO too.

    By mytwocents

    December 30, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

    ¡Prospero ano y felicidad!** With each year, I’m more and more okay with knowing who I want to bother dealing with in my life and who I can’t spare my good/positive energy on. Really, I do this with each day cuz I’ll give myself a clean slate in a minute and turn over a new leaf b/c tomorrow is not promised. It’s refreshing.

    As for vocabulary, yeah, I’m gonna need folks to have the ability to elevate theirs at the appropriate times even if it’s not always used. I try not to be the word warden, either, Swizzy, but I cannot endure someone who constantly misuses the same words or phrases. You just can’t gently steer some ppl and if I care bout ya, I won’t let u look crazy in front of ‘company’ even if you’ll be annoyed with me for a bit.

    And Shyyyyyttt <— that sounds like Charleston, SC’s favorite exclamation right there. I blame that geechie daddy of mine for my colorful curse words. But how it comes out so smooth n sweet that folks don’t know they’ve just been blazed… I get it from my mama…

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

    She’s Haitian & the date is August 29. :-)

    i’m swiss….DO THAT! Congrats man!

    Where is 6’1’ ‘n Luvin it? She is our resident Haitian girl.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

    someone..somewhere will say “mash that button right there”…

    Rell, oh…well I don’t see the big deal about that. I thought it was code for something else other than pressing a button. LOL

    By abc

    December 30, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

    Lack of vocabulary and inability to speak well is a definition of ‘inarticulate’. Whether or not an inarticulate person has something worthwhile to say doesn’t much matter if they can’t impart the message. How much patience should one be expected to have with a person who doesn’t take any care in their own self expression, or who chooses ebonics or a southern colloquial dialect to purposely sound different from the norm?

    Personally, I don’t have much patience for things like that. Ignoring one’s own speech, or purposely choosing to obscure one’s language, is a mark of laziness or stupidity.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

    I’ve heard “mash the button”, but never heard “On tomorrow” What does that mean???

    I hate the word “conversate” and I loathe “getting my hair did.” I remember a telemarketer calling me a few years back. She was very personable over the phone until she used the word “conversate.” I informed her that “conversate” was not a word. She was genuinely surprised. Asked her to make a conscious effort to never use the word again. I was surprised when Beyonce used it in one of her songs!

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

    Cee,Tazz,Leggs,Stormy hw u all doing guys.BAD grammar and difference in enunciation are not the same.Bad grammar is bad grammar where as enunciation has to do with a person’s dialect/backgound etc.I speak perfect english(British) but when i talk, i may sound heavy to u guys and pronounce some words differently than u guys do due to my british background.Wise is talking specifically about bad english grammar.For the uninitiated, this may not be appraent but american english and british english may/is (be) diffrent in some aspects. And Leggs, i dont type the way i speak….

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

    @Cee

    Now chiles…you knows dat I gonna gits on dat Anglash thang and conversate on it…lol…I be truly on my bad iffin I did not does it…I hope that all is well with you and yours…and I wish for you a very sane, heathly and hearty New Year of unprecedented joy, abundance and adventure…live on, live righteous and be blessed.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

    AR

    No, PG, “on tomorrow” is USED here. It’s not correct here, or anywhere. LOL

    LOL…wrong again. It IS correct here with southern english. It is part of dialect.

    When Samuel L. Clemens used dialect in his writings, it is considered a stroke of genius. Why did I get an “D” when I used it? Foreign teachers that’s why…lol. j/p I never really like his stuff.

    I won’t hold it against you though. I guess that you didn’t get your welcome to the South kit when you moved here. You would have found the correct southern dialect manual included with your case of Moon Pies and a six pack of R.C. Cola.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

    Leggs, you probably have heard “on tomorrow” and never really noticed it. But it means the same thing as “I’ll see you tomorrow” but for some reason the “on” is added. LOL

    I have also heard folks use “conversate” like it was a real word. I corrected someone once, because she used it in a meeting. We were the only black folks in the room, and afterward, I just let her know privately that the word was created by Biggie Smalls. LOL. She was mortified that she had the word wrong.

    I don’t mind “getting my hair did” because most folks who use it know that they are being silly. It would annoy me though if someone thought it was the proper way of saying it! LOL

    By i'm swiss

    December 30, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

    Thanks, Cemeeli. I’m definitely a lucky dude. :-)

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

    I was surprised when Beyonce used it in one of her songs! she aint educated!!!!!!!!!!! Another Topic..lol. Some in our society see these celebs as role models and worship their footpaths.We should not. Have u listened to R Kelly speaking anyone…the man cannot complete a full grammatically correct sentence..ummm,ummmmmm etc WTF and then lately,Caroline Kennedy….a dimwit indeed and gunning to be appointed senator…America plzzzz???!!!!!!!!!!

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

    LOL…wrong again. It IS correct here with southern english.

    PG, nope it’s not correct anywhere. It’s just accepted in “southern english”

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

    Auntie Cerebral

    I’ll take summa that 10:43…actually the whole first paragraph.

    Hi mytwocents I’m all ears when hear the geechie speak. It makes me wonder if it is an art? S. Carolina’s art leaks to Brunswick and Savannah Ga.

    By The Uneducated Raqi

    December 30, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

    Being lazy and not caring to speak correctly. And some people can’t grasp the tongue usage for certain words. Just like the str versus skr that Tazzee noted. I trrrill my r’s when I speak. Is that incorrect since I live in the South of the USA?

    By Shaye

    December 30, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

    Absolutely is poor language a deal-breaker. Colloquial language, slang, ‘cussing,’ etc., don’t really bother me per se, but an overall lack of being able to speak the language kills me. I also differentiate between “careful” speaking and “correct” speaking. I.e., I use ‘ain’t’ in everyday conversation and see nothing wrong with it, but I would never use it in a high-level meeting, in a business e-mail, or on a business call.

    @i’m swiss: Conversate? Seriously? lol I hate what I call “over-correction” too. My husband is not a native speaker and he, too, has a better grasp of the language than most people I meet. He’s one of the few people who can occassionally correct me. Hell, he taught English back in Sweden.

    What I really love is the people who correct me when I’m not wrong. Explaining to them why I am right is always so much fun. :P

    That said, I rarely correct other people. No one likes it, they certainly don’t appreciate it, and I’d be wasting about 50% of my time doing it. :P It drives me absolutely up the wall how many “professional” people can’t speak or (especially) write properly.

    By Joshua

    December 30, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

    There In the black community there has always been this stigma associated with language. You could not speak in a proper fashion without being scorned for attempting to “sound” white. As if white had a sound associated with it. So the more ignorant you sounded the better off you would be.

    With that said, I believe if you know better then you should do better. There is no way, absolutely no way, that I would date someone that I could not have a conversation with. I believe that is someone does not have a grasp of the kings or queens English then we are going to have a problem throughout. I know that I have a tendency to be nit picky when it comes to the subject verb agreement. I am sorry but that is how I am.

    And with me being a man, I just expect that a woman’s vocabulary is going to be better than mine anyway. I believe it should. And there is a certain expectation that educated people should carry on conversations in an informed way. There is nothing informed about having a conversation in full slang. In fact, it goes back the state meant that I made earlier. If you know better you should do better.

    On top of that, a woman that curses, or cusses, more than I do is ridiculous. I don’t care how good looking she is, if I feel like I need to take a bath or shower after a conversation with her then we have a problem. The first date will probably be the last date for us. There is no way in the world that I would get to involved in that.

    Just my opinion

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

    I luv that dayum M’karyl.

    Cee now bowing to the chic that has the slickest ability to change dialects, and articulate in any setting

    Yes maam!!…i knew YOU were gonna bring-it! Lol…and i know whence you mastered dat too…

    By RELL - 2009

    December 30, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

    no what about jawn….that philly term for females…like what da hell is a jawn….i can kinda dig shawty…because back in the day in VA/DC area every women was a shorty….then that moved to the kids…but jawn…what da hell is a jawn

    and PG…i first heard the word son when i was in the military…my homie from ny came back off leave and everything was son….lol….or B…..then during my days in san diego it was nephew or cuz….lol..like are we related…lol

    By The Uneducated Raqi

    December 30, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

    But Amazon I have heard people also say “I will see you on next week” or “I will come by on next Friday”. It is what it is.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

    It IS correct here with southern english no such thing as southern english or nothern english.English is English.Its international….

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

    It IS correct here with southern english no such thing as southern english or nothern english.English is English.Its international….

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

    And Leggs, i dont type the way i speak….

    melo…you’re preaching to the chior…we (me) already know this.

    PoppaG Hawks, made Carmelo & Co. go si’dine <-(thanks Blue) lastnight.

    By QC-HAPPY NEW YEAR

    December 30, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

    BDS I don’t mess with him about it anymore…he’s a great guy :)

    By Joshua

    December 30, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

    There In the black community there has always been this stigma associated with language. You could not speak in a proper fashion without being scorned for attempting to “sound” white. As if white had a sound associated with it. So the more ignorant you sounded the better off you would be.

    With that said, I believe if you know better then you should do better. There is no way, absolutely no way, that I would date someone that I could not have a conversation with. I believe that is someone does not have a grasp of the kings or queens English then we are going to have a problem throughout. I know that I have a tendency to be nit picky when it comes to the subject verb agreement. I am sorry but that is how I am.

    And with me being a man, I just expect that a woman’s vocabulary is going to be better than mine anyway. I believe it should. And there is a certain expectation that educated people should carry on conversations in an informed way. There is nothing informed about having a conversation in full slang. In fact, it goes back the state meant that I made earlier. If you know better you should do better.

    On top of that, a woman that curses, or cusses, more than I do is ridiculous. I don’t care how good looking she is, if I feel like I need to take a bath or shower after a conversation with her then we have a problem. The first date will probably be the last date for us. There is no way in the world that I would get to involved in that.

    Just my opinion

    By Kym

    December 30, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

    PoppaG There is only one Cola. And it is Coke. This is Georgia..it is the South and as soon as you hit the red clay..you ask for a Coke. or Coca-Cola…Fanta Orange..is Orange Coke. Grape Fanta..is Grape Coke..and so on. RC Cola..blasphemy..

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

    ARed, the first time I heard “getting my hair did” she thought she was saying it correctly. I looked at her like she had 3 heads. She’s looking at me like “What, what’s wrong,” and I’m looking at her “like you have got to be kidding me!” Anyway, that was my introduction to “getting my hair did.” I do realize that most use it now in jest, but a lot don’t!

    Bet I’ll hear “on tomorrow” now.

    Melo, I know you don’t type the way you speak. I know this!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

    ARed, the first time I heard “getting my hair did” she thought she was saying it correctly. I looked at her like she had 3 heads. She’s looking at me like “What, what’s wrong,” and I’m looking at her “like you have got to be kidding me!” Anyway, that was my introduction to “getting my hair did.” I do realize that most use it now in jest, but a lot don’t!

    Bet I’ll hear “on tomorrow” now.

    Melo, I know you don’t type the way you speak. I know this!

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

    “Conversate” is what is called a “back-formation” based on the noun “conversation.” But the verb for this sort of thing is “converse.”

    IMO…I think that this use of the word is a cultural translation that ppl use because it sounds proper although it is incorrect…and sounding proper does not necessarily translate into grammatically correct English…now, spelling is another ish all by itself…lol FYI…

    http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html#errors

    This site list many common misuses of the English language.

    By Joshua

    December 30, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

    drawl is regional though.

    By RELL - 2009

    December 30, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

    There is no way, absolutely no way, that I would date someone that I could not have a conversation with. I believe that is someone does not have a grasp of the kings or queens English then we are going to have a problem throughout. I know that I have a tendency to be nit picky when it comes to the subject verb agreement. I am sorry but that is how I am.

    This is why most americans have a problem fitting in when travelling abroad….smh….english is not the end all to be all

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

    ARed, the first time I heard “getting my hair did” she thought she was saying it correctly. I looked at her like she had 3 heads. She’s looking at me like “What, what’s wrong,” and I’m looking at her “like you have got to be kidding me!” Anyway, that was my introduction to “getting my hair did.” I do realize that most use it now in jest, but a lot don’t!

    Bet I’ll hear “on tomorrow” now.

    Melo, I know you don’t type the way you speak. I know this!

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

    Last week on CNN an on location new anchor actually said something abouth the snow was about to be the “most better”…boy, did Don Lemon have a good time with that one…lol

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

    ARed, the first time I heard “getting my hair did” she thought she was saying it correctly. I looked at her like she had 3 heads. She’s looking at me like “What, what’s wrong,” and I’m looking at her “like you have got to be kidding me!” Anyway, that was my introduction to “getting my hair did.” I do realize that most use it now in jest, but a lot don’t!

    Bet I’ll hear “on tomorrow” now.

    Melo, I know you don’t type the way you speak. I know this!

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

    melo calm your happy self down. You know my in-law is from west-africa…Yes, he speaks very well. When he and i speak i can proper english & add a lil southern dialect and he stays on course. But, that chile won’t teach me French for nuthin’… he says it’s hard for him to teach it.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

    But Amazon I have heard people also say “I will see you on next week” or “I will come by on next Friday”. It is what it is.

    Raqi, which still goes to my point, just because it’s an accepted and practiced dialect, doesn’t mean it’s “correct” in terms of the english language.

    Dreams said it best: “Completely incorrect, but so what. That mistake in pronounciation is made so much that in a few years it will probably be accepted as common usage.”

    There is nothing wrong with adapting and accepting different dialects from different regions. Heck, “Ebonics” comes from California my home state! The difference is trying to tell people that it’s “correct” in the english language. That’s not the right way to put it.

    15 years from now, we might all be using “conversate” but it still will never be “correct” english.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

    AR Obviously you didn’t see the j/p. I was playing, but I did say it was dialect. Dialect isn’t always proper english.

    I am in a field where language is extremely important. I know correct english

    Only profanity irks me. It is a tool for a lazy mind. There are tons of non-profane words that can really cut .

    I have cut dates short because the female cussed more than Popeye did under his breath.

    Cee

    I’m all ears when hear the geechie speak. It makes me wonder if it is an art? S. Carolina’s art leaks to Brunswick and Savannah Ga.

    I’ve heard that the geechie dialects can be traced to the West Coast of Africa along with some of the grass weaving. Those baskets or hats can look really cool.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

    mytwocents has corrected someone before…She too, issa slick-sweet-wit-it English mofo major.

    i’m glad you all are around, the youth need it

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

    Tazzee, my friends and I know this girl from Richmond who says “make groceries.” We were also tickled the first time we heard it. She let us know it was also common in the south.

    We use it now…all in jest of course.

    By Joshua

    December 30, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

    To RELL - 2009 When I am travelling abroad, I understand the rules of engagement. I am in another country and I do not know their customs and the like. And in understanding that, I try to do my homework so that when I do go I will at least be able to fake it until I make it. I would never want to be the loud and rude American that we all know some of us to be.

    It is always a humbling experience for me. But, that is in reference to a visit. I am talking about someone that I could posibbly be making a life long connection with. So as for me, I would like to be able to communicate with that person.

    You know they say that after the children are gone, and the sex life fades, all you have is this person to share your life with. It would be a horrible thing if the person that I share my final years with is someone that I don’t want to hear say a word.

    Just my opinion.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

    PG, I saw the j/p but not where you sat up there and told me I was wrong. Glad you were j/p though because I was starting to worry about you. LOL

    Like I said, I’m getting used to it. If folks on this board moved to CA, you would probably be irked by us putting the word “like” in every sentence! “He was, like, completely wrong!” You’d also hear “cuz” an annoying amount of times and “dude” too many times to count. No one in Cali blinks an eye, it’s accepted there. But it certainly isn’t correct by any means!

    Dude. LOL

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

    Someone mentioned how the in many AA communities the ability to speak proper English is equated with sounding white…this is a stigma that many of us have been burdened with when we do not speak in a culturally based dialect…and it is sad that it only perpetuates an assumed inferiority in AA’s as a ppl who are incapable of enunciating, articulating and communicating in a linguistically correct manner…our ability to speak is innate…how we learn to speak is an acquired capability…and if the ability to speak proper English is strictly a function of whiteness, then maybe some ppl should listen to white Southerners speak…there is not much difference in the dialect, white or black, amongst some Southerners…it all sounds the same.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

    PoppaG Yes geechie got it’s influence from the Jamaican Creole, Bahamian, Kroi and African culture. It was Gullah people that formed it on the Carolina & Ga. coast.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

    @Ared

    Make groceries is something I never heard until I moved to the South…just like getting my hair did…and several other phrases…I remember years ago when I worked at the Popeye’s on Lee St…and customers would come in and ask for ” a chicken breath, a short thigh and a erange drank…oh yeah, and a bisquit”…it is Southern vernacular at its best.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

    Ok, I now have company w/the dbl posting.

    By The Uneducated Raqi

    December 30, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

    getting my hair did

    Leggs now that right there is just sad every time I hear it. Those type of errors are way beyond the normal every day misuse of some words and statements. That is ghetto.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

    Ok, I now have company w/the dbl posting.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

    @Cee

    I learned that the rhythm of the Geechie dialect took its roots from the West African dialectical patterns and then mixed with various forms of spoken English according to the region where they lived…in some places these kinds of language patterns are called patois or pidgeon English…so I have been led to believe.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

    I know “Coke is it!” and “Coke is the Real Thing” blah, blah, blah. I know that it owns about half of the ATL and Delta owns most of the other half.

    Royal Crown Cola is a Georgia product as well. Columbus, GA is where it was developed. I just thought about the “Moon Pie and RC cola festival” that is held in Tennessee. That is something that is totally southern.

    I really don’t drink soda except when I am making and consuming cocktails. Otherwise, I stick to water, juice, teas and lemonade. I don’t understand why they use splenda or nutrisweet in diet soft drinks because the fructose corn syrup is as bad or even worse than real sugar. So, I tend to stay away from sodas period.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

    and customers would come in and ask for ” a chicken breath, a short thigh and a erange drank…oh yeah, and a bisquit”…it is Southern vernacular at its best.

    M’Karyl - Southern twang aside, at least the order was in correct english! LOL

    Yeah the southern vernacular can be humorous if you’re not used to it. Folks aren’t used to my Cali vernacular and rib me for it. I’m always told I sound like a valley girl because I’m from California. I had to accept that I do. LOL.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

    abc I think most educated people have a low tolerance for people that do not articulate properly. That goes without saying in those sutible environments.

    But the subject today, about dismissing someone for said problem outside of “influential” environments is something we all need to work on, don’t you think?

    We’ve all used “lazy” idioms/phrases.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

    ARed I remember my mother introducing me to one of her southern friends. I had just arrived in Georgia. This lady would say “girlfriend” every other word. For some reason it fascinated me that someone would use “girlfriend” like that. I swore up and down that I would not become that southern. Guess what, I now use girlfriend. Not often, but too often for a New Yorker according to my family. I also remember the first time I heard Andrew Young in a press conference use the word “fixin.” I was appalled but soon realized that’s how folk talk here in the south.

    We all have our pet peeves when speaking. I tend to talk w/my hands and that seemed to aggravate quite a few folk. I had to condition myself to stop that. The new weatherman on Ch.2 news came on board talking w/his hands. Bet someone told him about it because he doesn’t do it as much. The way we converse w/each other is short of intriguing!

    By RELL - 2009

    December 30, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

    @Mkay…”our” speech was created out of necessity….smh…..folks need to learn there history…its cool that you can speak correctly to YT but certain terms or inflications was created to mean more then it does today…sounding white was dangerous during a certain time with “our” people….we are not that many generations removed from that time

    By The Uneducated Raqi

    December 30, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

    Yeah Amazon and focusing on the “on” crosses the line into being a –nal. Do you miss the entire fact that they want to meet you tomorrow because they inserted the “on”? If you meet a guy and he tells you he is going to call you on tomorrow, do you realize he is going to call you or do avoid the call for the use of on? My best friend uses “why come” instead of “why” and she is rather successful in her career. The “come” is funny but is not that serious.

    You know what’s funny, there is something about all of us that someone some where can point out something that we are doing incorrectly. Even when we believe it to be right.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

    PG

    I remember RC Cola…I grew up in IL…the biggest difference for me was in how we referred to soft drinks as “pop” and when I moved to the South they said “soda”…and we also referred to the sodas by name brand…if I wanted a Coke or a Pepsi or a RC Cola, that is what I ask for…the same for Sprite or Seven-Up, Crush, Fanta or Nehi…but everything in the South was a Coke sumthing or another…lol

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

    ARed I remember my mother introducing me to one of her southern friends. I had just arrived in Georgia. This lady would say “girlfriend” every other word. For some reason it fascinated me that someone would use “girlfriend” like that. I swore up and down that I would not become that southern. Guess what, I now use girlfriend. Not often, but too often for a New Yorker according to my family. I also remember the first time I heard Andrew Young in a press conference use the word “fixin.” I was appalled but soon realized that’s how folk talk here in the south.

    We all have our pet peeves when speaking. I tend to talk w/my hands and that seemed to aggravate quite a few folk. I had to condition myself to stop that. The new weatherman on Ch.2 news came on board talking w/his hands. Bet someone told him about it because he doesn’t do it as much. The way we converse w/each other is short of intriguing!

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

    You know they say that after the children are gone, and the sex life fades, all you have is this person to share your life with Now thats deep,Josh!!

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

    Dangit!

    M’Karyl you’re the English/HIstory/Classical Studies/Ump-teen other thangs i cain’t remember or name at this moment major!

    So yea, what you said…

    I did research on Gullah, GEECHEE <—that’s how it is spelled)* too*.

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

    My husband is from NY/NJ and his father is from Guyana. I have heard all sorts of stuff.

    When my hubby’s fam. comes from NY/NJ it’s plenty of “son” and “b” to last a lifetime. LOL

    When the family comes over from England and Guyana it gets really crazy. I’m usually sitting somewhere in the corner looking sideways. LOL

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

    @Rell

    My mother is from the South, and they always put a great emphasis on speaking proper, well enunciated English…the stigma of speaking white comes less from outside of our culture than it does from within…period…and as a Social Historian…I dayuum well do my history…k?

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

    @Rell

    My mother is from the South, and they always put a great emphasis on speaking proper, well enunciated English…the stigma of speaking white comes less from outside of our culture than it does from within…period…and as a Social Historian…I dayuum well do my history…k?

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

    Yeah Amazon and focusing on the “on” crosses the line into being a –nal.

    Raqi, I’m not focusing on it. It was part of the topic, I posted and then folks wanted to respond so we’re still talking about it.

    I’ve said I’ve accepted it, MANY times on here…you’re the one continuing to give my opinion attention.

    Focusing on it would be talking about it for no reason. Focusing on it would be correcting folks who use it. I don’t do either. So cut the dramatics.

    By The Uneducated Raqi

    December 30, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

    Well let me tell you, I lived with a YT for almost a year and believe me when I say even the most astute and educated YTs don’t always use proper vocabulary and grammar. Heck half of the brightwhites I know can’t spell worth a lick.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

    @Stormy

    LMAO…imagining what sitting in a room with everyone having a conversation must be like…lol…it must be a blast…it must be like WTF did he/she say??…lol

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

    AR

    The “like” in every sentence didn’t bother me as much as “son” at the end of every sentence.

    Although, referring to the west (as some of my LA friends have) as the “left coast” seems a little odd to me. It would be like us saying welcome to the southright US.

    For me, I think that people in general these phrases help people identify with familiar things.

    I just make sure that I am versatile. I can sit with my country cousins and talk about hog slaughtering on one day (you have to believe that there isn’t much correct english in those conversations) and have a healthy debate about Roe v. Wade with some classmates the next day.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

    Well, Congrats to the Falcons fans. Your QB is officially the Rookie of the year.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

    PG, I also have fond memories of RC Cola. It made it out to California too. I’m just a big cola lover overall.

    I remember missing Barq’s root beer. It used to be only in the south. My sister loves Big Red soda. I still don’t remember seeing it outside of the southern region.

    By The Truth

    December 30, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

    There’s nothing better than sitting down and having a discussion with a well spoken woman. I have some female friends that are so friggin smart. When we talk they bring up ish that makes me run to the puter for research. I love that.

    Poppa High fructose corn syrup is called the devils candy. Since its creation in the 80’s americas weight has continued to climb and alot of people agree HFCS is the reason. What it does is turn off that sensor in your mind that says your full so you wind up eating alot more than you need. The bad thing is its in so many foods its hard to eliminate. Even so-called healthy foods. BTW, soda is the number one carrier of HFCS.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

    The “like” in every sentence didn’t bother me as much as “son” at the end of every sentence.

    PG, you heard the “son” thing from folks from California? They must be transplants. LOL

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

    One very common error used by even the most educated ppl is the phrase quote…unquote…and it is actually quote…closed quote or end quote…you hear news anchors and such doing this all the time…and too, many ppl say that “I was raised…”, when actually it is “I was reared…”, it happens even with the best of us…myself included.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

    Stormy, have visited Guyana at all since ur marriage.I have never been to any of these Islands but i wld luv to go one day.Im told soem of the folks have tried to live like they were in Africa,per their fore fathers.Im going to luv it,i guess. When the family comes over from England and Guyana it gets really crazy now thats funny..LOL.I guess if u visit there(Guyana),u will come back with a different appreciation of their culture etc.They fascinate me too,the few Guyanes i have crossed paths with,here in the states.

    By The Uneducated Raqi

    December 30, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

    Ah sweetie I was just commenting back on your comment. You know…conversating…as to keep the topic flowing. But okay. I’m done.

    Moving on to some one else…

    When we talk they bring up ish that makes me run to the puter for research. I love that.

    See Truth that’s what I’m talking about right there. Being well informed. That’s a major turn on.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

    TruthBookClub is it? btw-What are you reading?

    ..other than with Bossman that bookclub is where some of the deepest intellectual dialect converse goes on …and i can’t wait ‘til this w/e for anutha*.

    By Joshua

    December 30, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

    To M’Karyl

    I believe that the emphasis has been placed on being well spoken by those in the south has been because in so many situations we have not been well spoken. And for some of us to continue to perpetuate broken english as just a part of our culture is just wrong. It does not have to be that way. This has nothing to do with being black, white, red or yellow. This has to do with being right or wrong.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

    Heck half of the brightwhites I know can’t spell worth a lick True dat,we know even in corporate america,the whites do pass favors onto each other and to undeserving kin/kith of theirs.Black folk,coz of the minority issue, proly need to go above and beyond to get the same attention.Thats why grammar becomes even more important for us coz its used against us if there is any inkling(wrd?) that we dont speak it correctly.

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

    What about people who end sentences with “so…” but nothing comes after it? Most that do it, don’t even know it.

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG Okay you are country..LMAO Just kidding

    I think beyond speech..what irks me about menfolks(southern) is if I meet a guy who can’t relate to fishing or hunting…and he is from the south. I always think..what’s wrong with you? I met this guy from Augusta, GA. He does not fish or hunt and I am thinking he may not be fond of getting dirty or camping..this is a odd dude to me. I expect that lack of knowledge from a Northern fellow.But a southern fellow nawww.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

    the biggest difference for me was in how we referred to soft drinks as “pop” and when I moved to the South they said “soda”…

    M’Karyl, I love it when folks say “pop” cuz I automatically know where they are from!

    I used to spend my summers in Texas with the fam and the principal of my summer program said “soda water” I still haven’t heard that used outside of Texas to this day. His “r”s were also said as “arrah.”

    Soda is my vice tho. It’s sooo bad that we have a soda fountain at my job. :-(

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

    Truth

    High fructose corn syrup is called the devils candy.

    Also, it is bad because for the most part the body has a hard time processing it and in most cases it just turns it into fat. Sugar is easier to breakdown than that cornsyrup.

    A recent study showed that McDonalds even had HFCS in the buns of their burgers. They put sugar on the fries to make them brown and corn syrup in just about everything else.

    There are have been studies that HFCS can also be addictive, which explains why it would be in everything. Rats have chosen HFCS over cocaine.

    By abc

    December 30, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

    Not really, Cemeeli. On one hand, when entire conversations consist of colloquialisms, whether ebonics, southern, British or otherwise, I tend to tune them out. The more colloquialism used, the less concise the meaning. People have a hard enough time saying exactly what they mean to say without purposely or inadvertently obscuring it by use of provincial dialect and slang.

    I suppose within select groups, some use of slang works as shorthand. Working with musicians is an example; any variety of blue-collar work could be applicable. Some people find use of gross dialect to be amusing, or a bonding element. I still find it to be usually imprecise.

    Much of one’s perception of such things comes from early influences. I once had a history teacher that would challenge us to come up with a word from the dictionary that he didn’t know; we never found one! I admired that. I once had a music teacher that equated playing cleanly to more accurately impart what you meant to play with clear pronunciation to more accurately impart what you had to say. It made sense to me.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

    What about people who end sentences with “so…” but nothing comes after it? Most that do it, don’t even know it.

    Tazzee, I know I am guilty of that! I became aware of it after I had used it in a few business meetings and after the “so…” everyone is looking at me to finish my statement and I’m looking like a deer in the headlights!

    I know I drop my “likes” in sentences too still. I’d never argue that I was correct in doing so tho! LOL

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

    Forget about ending sentences with “so.” Why is it so common now that ppl end sentences with “at?” If you can say “where you at” you can say “where are you?” Now that right there is like nails on chalkboard for me.

    ARed, you have a soda FOUNTAIN at your job. What flavors do you have. I use to have a lemonlime fountain soda every morning when I worked on Wall Street. Don’t drink too much soda now. Fanta Orange is my love but must keep in at distance!

    By Page1908

    December 30, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

    I agree with ARed on the “on tomorrow….” thing. 13 months in Atlanta so far, and omg that is very annoying. But, being from Cali, I say “like, dude and totally” a lot, so I guess that could annoy people here, too…lol.

    I’m bilingual, so both English and Spanish are my first languages, so for the most part, I mix the two, otherwise known as “Spanglish”, which sometimes annoys my Puerto Rican family lol. Like the other day I was talking to my dude and we were speaking Spanish and for some reason we were having a conversation about food and I was like, “no me gusta hot dogs”, and he started busting up because I didn’t know how to say “hot dog” in Spanish. lol He’s Puerto Rican, so I was like “what? how do you say hot dog in Spanish?” and he was like “OMG you don’t know?…lol”. I was like omg I guess I don’t know…oh well. lol

    By Chrissie

    December 30, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

    Poor language is definetly a huge turn-off; but what is worse than that to me is the profanity. I cannot stand someone that uses profanity in everyday language, or those who use it as an excuse to “justify” their actions or particular mood.Another turnoff is an “accent”; whether it’s a N.Y. accent or Jamaican. Then the killer is the “ebonics”; please use your own words and also stop staying things like “absolutely”.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

    Kym

    PoppaG Okay you are country..LMAO Just kidding

    You don’t have to kid me. I know that there are very few things in this world that are even in the realm of country that talking about hog slaughtering is.

    I know about fishing and hunting. Neither appeal to me much. I do like outdoor wildlife and camping, but killing an animal just because I can do it doesn’t do much for me.

    The caveat is deep sea fishing. I love fishing in the Gulf of Mexico. The last time that I went fishing down there I caught some Mahi-mahi and Red Snapper.

    For some reason the boat operator kept calling it a dolphin. I still haven’t quite figured that one out

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

    M’Karyl and Melo

    It’s so funny….tea bags & scones all over the place. Curry/pepper pot/rice and peas/roti all over the stove.

    We have not visited Guyana yet…we hope to go in 2010. We plan to travel to England next holiday season. It’s really unique because because not only is my father-in law Guyanese his mother is chinese. So the family portrait looks like East Indian/Chinese/European….truly a mixing pot.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

    @Joshua

    Historically, the ability to be well enunciated was associated with a person’s (for lack of better wording) breeding, refinement, education, etc…and this goes way back to the pre-Colonial days of English immigrants to this country…ppl are prone to speak in the vernacular of their upbringing…and unless an effort is made to learn a more appropriate use of the language, then it is what ppl know…in all honesty, the Southern vernacular is just more pronounced to ppl who are not from the South…and even Southeners speak a well enunciated Englishg language if they have been taught to do so…even my Spanish speaking friends can tell that I learned to speak a more formal Spanish language because I acquired it through educational learning of the language, not as a native tongue…and granted, it would behoove all ppl to learn a better spoken English language skill set…it will not happen for many due to the lack of emphasis and exposure to that environments conducive to such acquistion…so that said, we be fixin to heah sum thangs on tomorrow…lol

    By Dan

    December 30, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

    @abc

    Most speech (slang, ebonics, shorthand, etc.) is utilized as a function of in-group/out-group associations. Kinda like the 70’s phrase “If you don’t know, you’ll never know

    It’s a way of speaking to ingratiate oneself or to acknowledge a subset of a larger society. In fact the “King’s English” was just that, language to be spoken only for/by the “King’s” court.

    So…(hey, Tazz)

    @All

    Have yourself a happy new year, see y’all in ‘09 at some point

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

    M’Karyl It took me a while to make the pop to soda conversion. Also all ‘gym shoes, sneakers’ were ‘tennis shoes’ where I’m from. When I moved down south I had folks asking me if I played tennis, LOL.

    PoppaG thanks for that bit of information. I thought they were going to announce the ROY on Friday.

    AmRed we have a soda fountain at my job too. Before I started working here I might have one Coke a week. Now, I need to go through a soda detox…

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

    Forget about ending sentences with “so.” Why is it so common now that ppl end sentences with “at?” If you can say “where you at” you can say “where are you?” Now that right there is like nails on chalkboard for me.

    ARed, you have a soda FOUNTAIN at your job. What flavors do you have. I use to have a lemonlime fountain soda every morning when I worked on Wall Street. Don’t drink too much soda now. Fanta Orange is my love but must keep in at distance!

    By LHE

    December 30, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

    High Fructose Corn Syrup has also been linked to the rise in diabetes. especially juvenile onset. And it really is in almost everything.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

    Leggs, I said to my mother last month…”where is your brother at?”

    She said “at the end of that preposition.” LOL. Busted.

    We have Coke, Coke Zero, Mountain Dew, Pink Lemondade and one other flavor at the job that I can’t remember. All I drink is the Coke. And it’s pretty bad for me when the fountain is out of order because then I have to drink water and I won’t do that. LOL

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

    M’Karyl, I know what you mean about quote and end quote. How about many use the “en dash” and “em dash” incorrectly.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

    @Page1908

    But you have to admit that Spanglish is a hoot…and depending on the person I am talking to, I find myself using it as well…lol…it is becoming quite common…I remember when it was called Tex-Mex or Chicano English…lol

    @Leggs

    I know it is annoying to hear ppl say at when ending a sentence…but I truly get a kcik out of using it just to mix it up…mainly because if many Spanish sentences are literally translated into English, that is how they would be said…like “que hora es?”=”what time it is”…but it really means “what time is it”…but only in gest and never in an inappropriate situation…like white collar america…lol

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

    But, being from Cali, I say “like, dude and totally” a lot, so I guess that could annoy people here, too…lol.

    Hello Page1908, my Cali sister! You know I’m with ya. LOL

    By the way, I read today that United is having a fare sale to San Diego. $218 round trip. I think it’s only a one or two day sale.

    By Page1908

    December 30, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

    LOL @ “pop” for soda. LOL @ “sneakers” for tennis shoes. Tazzee lol do you play tennis. That is all I have ever called them; tennis shoes.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

    AR

    You heard the “son” thing from folks from California? They must be transplants. LOL

    I haven’t heard that.

    I hope that they are just fans of the Wu Tang Clan. I know that they have a couple of skits on “Enter the 36 Chambers” where “son” and “word is bond” are repeated like every six seconds….lol. That is when I really started paying attention to it.

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

    M’Karyl

    My husband can switch between NY/NJ and Guyanese dialects so fast. I find the Guyanese dialect very sexy when he does it.

    But yeah, I can’t understand a word. I get somewhere and sit my “A” down and be quiet.

    They have been trying to teach me to “whine” s/p since we got married. Still don’t quite have it. I love the music. They really know how to party….they eat/drink/ fall asleep wake up and start all over.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

    M’Karyl, I know what you mean about quote and end quote. How about many use the “en dash” and “em dash” incorrectly.

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

    Somebody done stole…I mean some one has taken my lunch. How in the world you gone walk up to the fridge and take something you know you didn’t put there. I should have left it in my lunch bag but since it is a turkey on honey wheat with romaine lettuce, tomatoes, thin layer of mayo, Dijon mustard and real Bacon I figured I better keep it cool. It was wrapped in saran wrap looking all pretty and tasty. I guess who ever took it couldn’t resist. All I am left with is a jello fruit cup and welch’s passion fruit juice. sniff

    And I didn’t even have to make that sandwich. It was so nicely prepared for me when I got ready to leave this morning. sniff, sniff. I want to cry for real.

    I’ll be back shortly. Gotta find me something to eat. Where is my office husband? He needs to go get me some lunch.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

    @Tazee

    yeah, I used “pop” when I first moved to the South…and ppl looked at me like WTF!!…does she want me to hit her?…and then I assimilated “soda” into my vocabulary…and when I went home I would say “I want a soda”…and they would look at me like WTF does she want a club soda or baking soda for???? Does the child had indigestion?…lol….and I also said “tennis shoes”…but many of my friends from Chi said “jimmies”…from gym shoes…about the only thing funnier is speaking to an Brit and using words like: knocked-up, stuffed and bad egg, f* and such…talk about communication confusion…lol

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

    Page1908, you’re bilingual. I didn’t know this. You have a puerto rican family, I didn’t know this (LOL).

    By Page1908

    December 30, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

    ARed LOL yeah my Cali sista! It’s not only the words that people use here in the south, it’s the phrases as well. Some dude said “dayum shawty you look good coming and going”. I just stood there and looked around because 1) I didn’t know he was talking to me because I’m not short, I’m 5’9 lol. and 2) I have no idea what that means (well, I do now lol).

    Sale fare $218 to San Diego? Ok, let me check because that is a good price. I was just there a couple of weeks ago, but for that price, I can’t pass that up.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

    yeah, I used “pop” when I first moved to the South…and ppl looked at me like WTF!!…does she want me to hit her?…

    LMAO. M’Karyl

    In other news, why am I just sitting around blogging in my pajamas like I don’t have stuff to do. Let me get it together. LOL

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

    AmRed at the end of that preposition I use that all the time. I thought that was something everyone heard growing up.

    Umm, do you work in my building? I tried coke zero for a week, but went back to coke. Now I know my ‘water only’ diet was more because I was cheap than I was being so healthy, LOL.

    Page1908 - I’m versatile though, when I went back to Cleveland earlier this year it was pop and tennis shoes all over again, LOL. Now I just say I need to buy some cross trainers or some workout shoes.

    Dan so…what? LOL

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

    AR

    BTW, we get unlimited sodas too. smh. Our are just in cans. We get Coke and Pepsi products. A couple of partners are from the Connecticut and big Pepsi fans.

    So we have Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper & Diet Dr. Pepper ..all in cans

    And we have Coke, Diet Coke, sprite, Fanta orange, Fanta Grape, Fanta Strawberry, and Fanta Pineapple … all in cans.

    We can get as many as we want whenever we are here.

    We also get Crystal Springs water, I drink that the most.

    I’ve had unlimited sodas at every law firm in which I’ve worked.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

    Page1908, you’re bilingual. I didn’t know this. You have a puerto rican family, I didn’t know this (LOL).

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

    So the family portrait looks like East Indian/Chinese/European….truly a mixing pot thats awesome!!

    On a personal level, i’ll tell u this:in the 12 yrs i have been in the states, i have been discriminated against in my industry, by both black and white southern folks.The folks who have given me breaks,almost always,were of mixed heritage or had that in their families.And i give pple like those much props in my everyday life.My previous boss was american from chinese-canadian mom and white american dad.And currently, i wrk in a gumbo of jamaican,white,haitain,trinidad,african heritages.Im blessed!!!!!!!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

    Raqi, the lunch bandit use to work here. My lunch was stolen on a regular basis (always homecooked meals). I got so disgusted that I went to facilities management with steam coming out of both ears asking to put up a hidden camera. Of course, they declined my suggestion.

    By AmazonRed

    December 30, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

    I use that all the time. I thought that was something everyone heard growing up.

    Tazzee, my parents were sticklers for english. They were both radio disk jockeys and not on those “shucking and jiving” channels either. My dad still does voice over work. So they hate it when we start getting too familiar with the slang. I’m glad she checked me though, because I am was not aware I had picked it up.

    And Coke Zero is an insult to real Coke! LOL. One of my coworkers insisted that it tasted “just like Coke.” I tried it and wanted to slap him. Never again!

    PG, I’ve had several jobs that offered free sodas, but never a fountain. Something about the fountain soda…yum. I think I do pretty good considering that soda is my weekness. I only drink one a day at lunch time. Many of my coworkers make several trips a day to that machine.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

    @Raqi

    Yep…that is pretty low, stealing another person’s lunch…contracting, I worked in several places where that was prone to happen…including the CDC, BellSouth, etc…hope the chump gets indigestion and uncontrollable poots..lol.

    By Page1908

    December 30, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

    Leggs OMG lol as much as we talk and email you didn’t know. Maybe it was Staceye and the others on email. Yeah, my Dad is and his family. I grew up bilingual in LA/San Diego, and of course when I lived in Phoenix, it was pretty much a requirement to at least be able to understand. That’s just how it is on the west coast. Oh yeah, gotta have my mucho guacamole, too…YUMMY! lol

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

    Raqi, the lunch bandit use to work here. My lunch was stolen on a regular basis (always homecooked meals). I got so disgusted that I went to facilities management with steam coming out of both ears asking to put up a hidden camera. Of course, they declined my suggestion.

    By C tha 1

    December 30, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

    I find it rather ironic that a number of people on this board have an aversion towards those who don’t have a full command of speaking Standard English when so few posters actually WRITE WELL?! Honestly its a matter of semantics considering this forum should not be up for critical grammatical analysis, as I assume most posters write as they speak. But we all know the rule about assumptions.

    I’m country, and I’m not ashamed of that. I was born and raised there and I still go bike dare to see my Ma n’ em and hav me sum brown to drank. I also speak proper, and/or sound too white for some people in my neck of the woods. Who cares, you can’t please everyone.

    I’m not one to be an expert at social rules, but some people find it generally offensive to have their speech corrected in a casual atmosphere. However, in a professional arena one has to be on point in order to be taken seriously. If I’m dating someone who I have to constantly use my Good English in order to be accepted I’ll ultimately get bored or irritated and lose interest.

    Because I’m from the country I find it funny to find the number of transplants falling for the old school “Country Dumb” hustle by some of us slow folk. Some people shouldn’t be so quick to judge and ready to impose a certain set of rules in the wrong situation. Yet if some one is truly ignorant it will show through more than there use of the English language.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

    All I am left with is a jello fruit cup and welch’s passion fruit juice. sniff u sure need to be more careful from now on.U cant afford to starve 2 pple at one time! DEFACS will be on ur case.

    By The Truth

    December 30, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

    Anyone know of any good sights to download free music besides limewire?

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

    Melo

    Yeah, it makes you look at people from a character stand point rather than a racial POV…..because you have been exposed too many variations in culture and race.

    My kids are reflective of my husbands mixed hertiage. My daughter has a lot of the asian characteristics. My son looks more East Indian. It’s very unique.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

    MK

    but many of my friends from Chi said “jimmies”

    In my mind, “jimmies” are condoms. I heard them called jimmy hats so much. I listen to Tribe Called Quest so much that it just stuck with me.

    By Jamoca

    December 30, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

    Hey everybody…

    Dreams I think there’s a difference between someone who has a command of the English language but consciously decides to relax their grammar from time to time and someone who uses bad grammar because they really have no clue….But when I’m dating, I don’t want to feel like I’m presenting; just want to be comfortable and relax. Besides, EVERYONE uses slang or idomatic expressions. I can definitely agree with that. Good point. Whenever I use slang, it’s always in jest or when I am around certain folks in my family/close friends of the family…it just comes out. We’re usually just shootin’ the breeze anyway and I’m all for good laughs and that’s usually when those good times roll on in. I look forward to those moments where I can just kick back and let my hair down a bit…or heyal A LOT!…and I will not apologize for being myself one dayum bit. LOL

    I can remember when I was a young girl, and my mother’s husband was promoted and we had to relocate to Indiana. That was a huge adjustment for me. Since children tend to be extremely blunt, I was often teased with how I chose to pronounce some words or even a phrase, even when I knew how to speak properly. This really forced me to take heed and take the time to use proper grammar; I was so used to the way folks communicated back home. When it came to etiquette, proper grammar and effective communication my mother was a stickler for “presentation”. I often correct my daughters as well …hmphf, and I always will.

    However, IMO, I believe it really does not matter very much. I can pretty much follow one extreme to another…whether is conveyed properly or not. ”As long as one knows when to turn it on and when to turn it off” …(and for me that goes for profanity as well). There’s a time and place for everything; and in my family the adults (aunt’s, uncles, cousins, etc) may cuss around one another, but we ALL know that when it comes to the elders of the family (and let my Big Ma and Gma tell it) : “ya’ betta come correct or not at all.” It’s just not tolerated, no matter how old you are. I told “mine” just the other day, that no matter how grown you think you are (when you become an adult), you will NEVER BE ON MY LEVEL, to even think for a moment that you can come at me with that jive.

    Raqi You know what’s funny, there is something about all of us that someone some where can point out something that we are doing incorrectly. Even when we believe it to be right. Exactly. I love that right ^^^ there.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

    Too funny Page1908. When listening to you I would tell myself you sound different and your crazy a$$ laugh did me in (LOL). No, I like your laugh. Don’t know how that escaped me, but it did. Ok, now I know that little twang (for lack of a better word) I hear in your voice is a combination of English/Spanish.

    Truth, just spoke to my child and she says to try mp3realm.org.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

    Hello C tha 1. Haven’t read you in some time. Hope all is well w/you.

    By The Pregnant Raqi

    December 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

    Leggs I can’t believe the nerve of some people.

    Mkaryl I hope they choke on it. (If they do I wander can they sue me or Mase? hmmmm)

    Melo my office husband and his fiancee are going to Atlanta Bread to get me a Turkey club. It wont be the same but I guess I can’t complain. sniff

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

    @C tha 1

    It all comes down to a relative context…I am much less formal in my written stucture on this forum than I would be otherwise…what is the gist of the discussion is how we react, rate or regard ppl as relationship material based upon that individual’s ability to enunciate, articulate and appropriately use the English language..and whether or not that is criteria to make or break pursuing an interaction with another person…period…everyone has different levels of tolerance for varying attributes…and spoken language is one of them…the fact that you can be down home around and with your peeps, while still maintaining the ability to upgrade your language skills in another setting is an asset many of us possess…for me it’s jes a part of being colored and sech…imagine that…cuz I learned that from momma and dem.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

    I picked up on “my mother’s husband.” What you didn’t like him?

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

    Raqi how about this…went to fridge to get my soda and someone drank half the can and put it back. THEY PUT IT BACK!!!!

    By Jamoca

    December 30, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

    Honestly its a matter of semantics considering this forum should not be up for critical grammatical analysis, as I assume most posters write as they speak. But we all know the rule about assumptions.

    If I’m dating someone who I have to constantly use my Good English in order to be accepted I’ll ultimately get bored or irritated and lose interest.

    Yet if some one is truly ignorant it will show through more than there use of the English language. <—- I likes dat’ as well….awww heyal, the entire post of your 12:45 dammit!!! LOL

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

    I picked up on “my mother’s husband.” What you didn’t like him?

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

    Raqi how about this…went to fridge to get my soda and someone drank half the can and put it back. THEY PUT IT BACK!!!!

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

    @Raqi

    That would be foul…but hey-ale, we live in such a litigious society that I would not be surprised if someone stole your lunch, became ill and then tried to sue you…lol…we got them kind of nuts in this world…and if they are low enough to steal your lunch, then they are probably low enough to sue you for any adverse consequences…ones without moral rectitude are like that…hope you enjoy your substitute lunch.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

    went to fridge to get my soda and someone drank half the can and put it back. THEY PUT IT BACK!!!! UR partners need to raise those pple’s wages coz sme aint right,been hapning 4 a minute now…..lol And the economy is tight so u may be witnessing that more often..Welcome 2009!!!!!!!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

    What happened, Melo and Joshua had dbl posting. Why theirs stopped and mine didn’t. The blog machine either likes me or dislikes me.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

    What happened, Melo and Joshua had dbl posting. Why theirs stopped and mine didn’t. The blog machine either likes me or dislikes me.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

    abc like i said earlier, you are speaking on, the use of proper articulating in suitable settings. If you’re totally dismissing someone based off “their art” that’s judgmental. all i’m saying

    See Moses <—-. I know you’re a ‘bible-thump’ along with some others.

    C tha 1 I agree on what you mentioned…Some have an aversion towards those who don’t have a full command of speaking Standard English when so few posters actually WRITE WELL!

    Adjusting in different environments, and how one interact in certain elements is relative. There is no way in hellz i can go in my Director’s office and ask him: You thank i can had dem vacashun days i ask u fo’? and be serious, knowing i’d get a confidential email on proper work etiquette….

    we should all know when some language is not tolerable.

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

    LOL Leggs now that is pathetic.

    Mkaryl it wouldn’t surprise me. Look at the man who voluntarily smoked for 40 years and then sued the tobacco company. smh I don’t doubt that there is an attorney out there that would entertain such a foolish suit against me or my husband because he made the sandwich and I am that one that has been wronged.

    Melo it’s not the economy. Some people are just trifling and sad.

    Tazzee my nieces and nephews up north have different terms they use from their parents. Being that they were raised there and their parents here.

    By mytwocents

    December 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

    C tha Now I wasn’t referring to some public, middle of the function, loud, ignant @zz attempt to correct someone. Those folks are often lookin to shine off others. If I dialogue enough with you that I catch on that you’re off track… keeping in mind that if I’ve shared a certain amout of conversation with you, I must feel invested in some way. If I pull back and no longer bother, then that ain’t a good sign.

    Truth Please do get ready for those flights. I was told to try utorret, I think it was, the other day. I could tell he pitied me for still thinking limeire was a viable option.

    By mytwocents

    December 30, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

    C tha Now I wasn’t referring to some public, middle of the function, loud, ignant @zz attempt to correct someone. Those folks are often lookin to shine off others. If I dialogue enough with you that I catch on that you’re off track… keeping in mind that if I’ve shared a certain amout of conversation with you, I must feel invested in some way. If I pull back and no longer bother, then that ain’t a good sign.

    Truth Please do get ready for those flights. I was told to try utorret, I think it was, the other day. I could tell he pitied me for still thinking limeire was a viable option.

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

    You thank i can had dem vacashun days i ask u fo’?

    Cee that there is not due to a limited vocabulary. That’s just wrong.

    I always get a kick out of people that try to speak proper and say “Think you” instead of “Thank you”. You trying to hard. Let it go.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

    …what gets me on proper ‘phone etiquette’, is when i gotta listen to a 15 minute long song on your voice mailbox before i get to the beep.

    Now that ^^^ mess is crasi!

    By Jamoca

    December 30, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

    Sup Tatas I blame that geechie daddy of mine for my colorful curse words. But how it comes out so smooth n sweet that folks don’t know they’ve just been blazed… I get it from my mama…

    Yo’ silly behind! LMAO!!! ….and tell ya’ daddey thank ya, ya here! I look forward to being revved up by Big Sis erry now and den’ with those colorful words and spesha’ phrases …comes in handy. LOL You know you’ve got that song ringin’ in my ears now! Dayum you! :-D

    Hey Ms. Leggums! Oh, you would have caught that! LOL! As a matter of fact, I did not…and he probably said the same about me, but I assumed shyt really hit the fan between those two when she caught on to his plans to send me to some all girls school overseas! LOL Come to find out he did not want children or rather a child that wasn’t his. But come to find out, they had been trying to have another baby and he was not able to produce any of his own. But as I got older, I figured out that she must’ve known this at some point in time. But hey, water under the dam.

    They’ve been divorced for some time and she’s finally HAPPILY remarried . Now I really admire this man. They’ve known each other since high school, and connected back with each other about 5 years ago. They appear to be extremely happy too. So regardless of our somewhat strange relationship, but a helluva-lot better than what it was, I must say that I am very happy for her.

    By M'Karyl

    December 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

    Well, I am off to bar hop and such…hang out with some rednecks in VA Beach…now ain’t that a hoot…but folks is folks…and fun is fun…which basically means that I will be leaving all of my high falutin vocabulary at home…and bring out my down home conversations and sech…when in Rome…but it is sho enuf fixin to be a knee-slappin’, tear-jerkin’ good time with dem folks…not to mention a few free beers…lol…got to get with the ppl where they come from…y’all knows what I means…lol

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

    rotf @ the Healthy Pregnant Woman

    Raqi…like QC mentioned earlier…the so-sou-southerners word back is enunciated bike for some reason.

    …let it go…

    By DasV

    December 30, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

    mornin’ bloggers how ya’ll is dis mornin?? lands’sakes… it be atta-noon! musta got lost in my work dis mornin.

    seriously the worse we can do as a ppl is not look to speak (translate think) better than we were forced to. nothing wrong with ‘keeping it real’… but when real dictates that we define stupid, the line has been crossed.

    the worse of offenses has been commented on except for my biggest peeve: ir-regardless. it is not a word southerners!

    .02 good call on with utorrent. great for movie downloads too. and when my computer crashed i ripped a operating sys off of that service. they do a good job of screening their feeders.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

    Ok, the blog machine isn’t discriminating against me…whew!

    Jamoca, I caught that because I never used the word “father” growing up. I always notice when someone doesn’t use the word “father.” I use to always say “the man that impregnated my mother.” Said, but true!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

    Ok, the blog machine isn’t discriminating against me…whew!

    Jamoca, I caught that because I never used the word “father” growing up. I always notice when someone doesn’t use the word “father.” I use to always say “the man that impregnated my mother.” Said, but true!

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

    The Pregnant Raqi

    As I tell most people, sure they can sue. The court loves to take people’s filing fees. They still have to prove their case. Which ulitmately means that they would have to admit to taking your food.

    it wouldn’t surprise me. Look at the man who voluntarily smoked for 40 years and then sued the tobacco company.

    The very first case on which I worked was that huge tobacco case. We represented one of the tobacco companies. All I’m gonna say is that the tobacco companies were NOT playing fair at all. While it is an individual’s choice to start smoking, the companies put additives in cigarettes to get and keep you hooked. Things like ammonia were used to create a dependency on their product.

    They knew what they were doing and planned it that way. That is why the tobacco companies lost and got hit with huge punitive damages. Damages that were so severe that they are still in the appeals process 10 years later.

    The tobacco case is in another whole realm of product liability.

    By Blue_Kolla The Big Hitta

    December 30, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

    Happy Holidays to all…

    QC, bay-bay. What up?! ;)

    Interesting topic, seeing as I come from a cussin’ azz family. LOL But since I am well-practiced in proper diction and grammar, I don’t let it weigh on my conscious.

    Wise So when homie is wearin’ out the cat-cave, and tell’s you to “back dat azz up?”, do you back it up, or tell him to cease cursing?

    I can already hear you answering me.

    That’s what I thought. I’ve heard more than one bourgeois broad get straight trash mouth while in the sack.

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

    So, what is everyone doing on New Year’s Eve?

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

    ir-regardless. it is not a word southerners! So southerners are the worst english offenders….lol..we need sme excitement in here,its 2.00pm!

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

    When I got home yesterday my grandson’s mother had brought him to the house. Although this is not what I wanted to tell you all be let me first get this off my chest. That little narrow tail girl actually thought I was going to let her sleep at my house. Trying to act all surprised and putout when I told her “nope. It will not be happening in my house.” She knew better. Just trynna try me. Come again.

    But anyhoo, the grandson stayed at the house last night with his father. After I came into the room Mase got up and locked the door. Just as sure as Peachtree goes to Buckhead that little rugrat came pulling at the door knob. When he realized the door was locked he started tapping on the door. “grandma I can’t open the door.” Mase mildly raised his voice at him and told him to go back to bed. That little knucklehead said “granddaddy I was talking to grandma”. LOL It is not funny but it’s funny. He found himself being forcefully carried back to bed. I heard him crying so I know Mason spanked him. But he didn’t give up. When I got up around 3am to go get some water he was asleep on the floor outside the door.

    His dad is an idiot. I have told him time and time again to not let him wonder around the house like that. Just because their apartment is small doesn’t mean he can’t get into something he shouldn’t and hurt himself. Or worse.

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

    Dreams what are you doing NYE?

    By abc

    December 30, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

    Not to belabor the point, but…

    I can speak proper — I guess you’d mean that you can speak properly.

    The use of proper articulating would be the proper use of articulation.

    If correct usage isn’t the norm for them, a person will sound obviously labored, forced or pensive when they do pay attention to what they’re saying, focusing attention all the more on incorrect usage. People hardly ever correct it, it’s pointless to try; but they notice. The message or point you try to make is diminished by an audience that discounts it because of poor delivery.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

    That’s what I thought. I’ve heard more than one bourgeois broad get straight trash mouth while in the sack.

    Luda!…hahaha

    …What did Usher and lil Jon ‘em say?…Yeah-yea!

    @ Blue I’on care about you side raking over me. Hay up to you anyway brother!

    waving

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

    I had lunch at my favorite place today..I wonder if six feet under takes investors?

    Okay so what are we talking about now? I call my Daddy..Daddy. I called my mother Mama..and all my Aunts are called Aunt So-So except one. The one who help raise me(not reared-raised) is called Auntie.

    Its soda..not pop. Tennis shoes..not sneakers(as in the “boy wears out damn tennis shoes to damn fast”)

    Hmmm maybe for the rest of the day I will practice the words andphrases I picked up watching BBC America.

    C1 Don’t worry about the “wankers” who try to impress others with their “hoytey-toytey” ways.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

    granddaddy I was talking to grandma” grandma should and must sleep with grand-son from time to time.Boy has so much luv for u but u spurning his efforts….

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

    I too have a friend who abhors (like that big little word (lol)) the word “irregardless.” Unfortunately, it is in the dictionary! I pointed this out to her years ago because she didn’t believe me.

    For NYE I’m going to end 2008 with a dream of mine…a threesome!!!! Yep!

    By Jamoca

    December 30, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

    So when homie is wearin’ out the cat-cave, and tell’s you to “back dat azz up?”, do you back it up, or tell him to cease cursing?

    BAH HAHAHAAA!! Blue I knew that one was coming. No idea from where or rather who would use that particular example…but I was waiting for someone to use that analogy or something similar! smh LOL Good point tho…like I said: TIME & PLACE for everything… given the appropriate setting and the right mood.

    *Leggs Hey, I can definitely understand (as I raise my hand) on that one. He was not my biological father, nor did he play the part. Therefore, I wasn’t all that eager to give him the title, but was still taught to show respect.

    Speaking of, this very day, I find it very difficult to call my father: daddy, dad, pops, etc. I simply begin speaking on whatever we’re talking about (whenever he addresses me) without beginning the sentence off with “Hey, Dad..” but I try to make sure it does not come off as being disrespectful.

    By DasV

    December 30, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

    Melo LOL. nice try. but i got you…

    big Hitta aint no need for cussin up in the bedroom. every sound should be inaudible or slurred at best in the bedroom. if you can talk/articulate then she not doing her job.

    now if telling her is your thang… word to the wise, its best said with firm planting of the hands, sweet shoves, delibrate pulls and general man-handling along wit ‘looks’ that stop a heart cold.

    basically, action picks louder than (curse) words. :)

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

    Never tennis shoes, always SNEAKERS!

    By The Truth

    December 30, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

    Leggs tell Lil Leggs it worked. I’m loading songs on my cell phone right now. Thanks.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

    Melo, that was not nice, not at all!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

    I too have a friend who abhors (like that big little word (lol)) the word “irregardless.” Unfortunately, it is in the dictionary! I pointed this out to her years ago because she didn’t believe me.

    For NYE I’m going to end 2008 with a dream of mine…a threesome!!!! Yep!

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

    Poppa my son hurt his head a few years ago while at a neighbor house playing soccer. He tripped and hit his head on the car. He hit it so hard he put a dent in the car and to this day he has seizures because a hematoma formed in his head. Now that woman was talking suing me for the repair of her car. I was in no way negligent in the matter. He was left there under her supervision after she called me and asked if he could come over and play with her son. I talked to my sister and my bff who are both attorneys and they both said if she tries it I will just counter it with a suit of her being negligent in allowing minor children to play in an unsafe environment. He tripped over the raised piece of stone at her driveway. I could have sued in the beginning anyway. She did not even inform me of the incident. I didn’t find out until a couple of days later when he had his first seizure.

    She had an attorney that was going to entertain her in the case. And I had two that said “try it if you want to”.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

    That’s what I thought. I’ve heard more than one bourgeois broad get straight trash mouth while in the sack that means what Blue?? when she is morticed u mean(from mortice and tenor joint,in carpentry),u mean??? in the sack..im thinking….suspended or back/forth??

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

    action picks louder….huh!

    By Blue_Kolla The Big Hitta

    December 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

    Raqi Mase mildly raised his voice at him and told him to go back to bed. That little knucklehead said “granddaddy I was talking to grandma”. LOL It is not funny but it’s funny. He found himself being forcefully carried back to bed. I heard him crying so I know Mason spanked him.

    Good job Mase. I sending over the Man Of The Week Award.

    Cee-Mee-Mee What up slim?! Naah, I ain’t siderakin’ (<=== I like that) you shordy.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

    Never tennis shoes, always SNEAKERS!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

    Melo, that was not nice, not at all!

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

    Leggs They are called tennis shoes in the south and if you don’t bloody well, like it then you can get stuffed!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

    action picks louder….huh!

    By Jamoca

    December 30, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

    Oh my dayummm…a 3some Ms. Leggs!!! Just make sure they’ve had all their shots! LMAO!

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

    BlueK I must admit to being immediately turned off when a man uttered a curse word in the midst of making out. We weren’t doing ‘the do’ but he said what he wanted to do to me and one of my body parts and I immediately tensed up - that make-out session was promptly ended.

    The funny thing is - this guy never really cursed. I guess his cuss-bug came out when he got aroused.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

    Melo LOL. nice try. but i got you and Melo, that was not nice, not at all! u know Ared started it when she talked about southerners’ depravity in education and such compared to the rest of mainstream america…LOL that reminds me of this announcer back home who used to greet pple at the soccer stadium.The stadium had 2 main sections,the VIP stands and the economy side.And he wld say,via the broadcast system, 1st how are u all commoners over there this afternoon?(in local lingo) and then in english, he would proceed to say,* and u gentleman and ladies here in the VIP stands,how are u folks* He would get a rowdy shout down every time from the offended folks in economy section…

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

    grandma should and must sleep with grand-son from time to time

    melo and why pray tell do you think that should be. That’s a damn lie right there. First of all his mother should make him stay in his bed. He will soon be 3. He needs to learn to stay in his room. And I give him much love. He don’t need to sleep in my bed to feel loved by me. And ain’t no way I am going to let some little crumb snatcher kick my husband out of his bed where he rightfully belongs. He ain’t even our child. Way should I let him come between us when I don’t plan to let ours do so. When they are sick that’s one thing. But even then after the age of two I will be going to his/her room and comfort them there.

    I let him in my bed before because his father wasn’t there. But not again. He is getting older.

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee I’m coming wherever you are! You like tequilla? ;-) I haven’t decided yet if I want to go out or just hit a get-together.

    LEGGS For NYE I’m going to end 2008 with a dream of mine…a threesome!!!! Yep! As you can see from my name, I’m all for actualizing dreams. lol Handle ya biz.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

    *The use of proper articulating *would be the proper use of articulation.

    yea, that was me…and yet…

    abc You’re so educated, are not getting the point? Like i tell ppl all the time: Your degree(s) don’t/wont/can’t interlink any level of harmony with others if you are belittling and dissecting all the time. Marinate the entire message, pls

    You said: The message or point you try to make is diminished by an audience that discounts it because of poor delivery.

    I said: INCORRECT. Using your own example: Musicians, as well as artists do not get a dismiss of their message/language when delivering to an audience.

    …nevermind if that was a lil extra…just thought i’d let you in my head a lil.

    Some other posters are the ones that like to getdown with you like that. I’m more an observer, and when i see ppl being patronizing, it lessens my energy level to enlighten in those regards.

    But my energy level is up today.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

    I will Truth, she got the new touch screen Behold for Christmas. She bought it w/her Christmas $$ and came across that site. She’s been downloading music ever since.

    WOW, sorry to hear that Raqi!

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

    snickering @ Tazzee. I…uh…nevermind. LOL I guess when it’s just making out it can be a turn off. still snickering

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

    I can get stuffed???? What does that mean? I grew up saying sneakers, so it’s ingrained in me to say sneakers. The words “tennis shoes” won’t come out of my mouth.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

    I will Truth, she got the new touch screen Behold for Christmas. She bought it w/her Christmas $$ and came across that site. She’s been downloading music ever since.

    WOW, sorry to hear that Raqi!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

    Melo, see Raqi’s 2:40. That’s what I was referring to when I said you were not being nice. You’re innuendo that grandma sleep w/grandson because he loves her wasn’t nice!!!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

    I can get stuffed???? What does that mean? I grew up saying sneakers, so it’s ingrained in me to say sneakers. The words “tennis shoes” won’t come out of my mouth.

    By DasV

    December 30, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

    leggs check this out: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless according to this it may be a blend of irrespective and regardless. it is not a word and considered nonstandard speech.

    By abc

    December 30, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

    But, that continues to be what I’m talking about. Even though I understand your point, I mean to assert that people are mistaken in their assumptions about the acceptability by other people of poor verbal presentation. I don’t mean to offend you by so saying, either! It’s just the way it comes out in the blog today.

    By marinate I presume you mean ruminate. Perhaps that’s intentional and meant to be colorful speech, and I understand what you mean, but by stating it incorrectly, the message is diminished. Maybe if it wasn’t overused, it’d have more impact.

    “do not get a dismiss of their message” obscured the meaning enough that I had to read it twice or three times to get what you meant. ‘Dismiss’ is not a noun, similar to the way that ‘disrepect’ is not a verb, although it’s commonly used as one. People can either get it or gather the meaning gradually, but by using distracting speech, you detract from what you’re saying.

    By JustMe

    December 30, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

    Good Afternoon Bloggers,

    I hope everyone had a Very Merry Christmas and is planning for a Very Happy New Year.

    On topic….

    If broken is English is part of a persons standard vernacular, it’s not always a deal breaker, but it can be a trun off. I do enjoy intelligent conversation sometimes.

    I don’t think it harsh per se, if you are talking to a familiar acquaintance, and I know they can speak proper English, then the occasional ebonics is cool for kicks and giggles. If this is a new acquaintance, then depending on the situation, I think it best to speak properly.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

    Melo, see Raqi’s 2:40. That’s what I was referring to when I said you were not being nice. You’re innuendo that grandma sleep w/grandson because he loves her wasn’t nice!!!

    By JustMe

    December 30, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

    Good Afternoon Bloggers,

    I hope everyone had a Very Merry Christmas and is planning for a Very Happy New Year.

    On topic….

    If broken is English is part of a persons standard vernacular, it’s not always a deal breaker, but it can be a trun off. I do enjoy intelligent conversation sometimes.

    I don’t think it harsh per se, if you are talking to a familiar acquaintance, and I know they can speak proper English, then the occasional ebonics is cool for kicks and giggles. If this is a new acquaintance, then depending on the situation, I think it best to speak properly.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

    I got u leggs,Raqi, i defer to u..

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

    Thanks DasV, I personally do not use irregardless because I know better. However, my dictionary doesn’t say it’s nonstandard. Time to get a new dictionary. I’ve had this one since Moses paid me a visit.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

    I can get stuffed???? LOL, i know right Leggs It can mean,u ready….

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee That was just he was truly a cusser (that was jus’ in him)…now lady we need to talk, ‘cause sumthin about that outfit or demeanor made that sillysucka cuss.

    out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh

    melo i think “transplants” do think that southerners aren’t really educated…then they move/retire here.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

    Leggs

    I grew up saying sneakers, so it’s ingrained in me to say sneakers. The words “tennis shoes” won’t come out of my mouth.

    I’ve always just called them “shoes”. During my rebellious teenage years, I tried calling them “kicks”. But when I asked for some new kicks, my mom really would kick me in the shin…No joke.

    Then she follow that up with her famous line…..”Say what you mean & Mean what you say”.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

    Kym, are you going to explain to me what “get stuffed” means?

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

    LOL Leggs. melo is grasping for a lewd comment or response.

    I got one melo. Do you want to read it? Don’t think because I am with child I am not the same person. How do you think I got pregnant in the first place? LOL

    By JustMe

    December 30, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

    is this thing working?

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

    Thanks DasV, I personally do not use irregardless because I know better. However, my dictionary doesn’t say it’s nonstandard. Time to get a new dictionary. I’ve had this one since Moses paid me a visit.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

    Now, that’s funny PoppaG, growing up when we said we were going shopping for some “kicks” we meant flat shoes!

    Raqi, isn’t he always….ok Melo, I’m ready!

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

    PG/All bloggers

    I need a dinner suggestion for tonight….the kids are staying at my mother’s this week and we want to go out. Not really picky about where we go….all suggestions welcomed and appreciated.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

    Kym, are you going to explain to me what “get stuffed” means?

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

    Leggs Get Stuffed is a politer way to tell someone to get lost.

    I love holiday weeks, I get to fanny around on work since no one is here. Next week all the duffers will be back..and I will go home totally knackered because I will have to spend half the bloody week playing firefighter to other people’s co ck ups.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

    I have co-workers who always ask how can I wear heels everyday. They ask if I have any flat shoes. I always reply, I have a few kicks in my closet. WOW, never heard anyone refer to sneakers as kicks!

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

    I knew that it was gonna happen sooner or later, Mrs. PG has found out that there will be a Fame remake released in theaters next year…smh.

    She is, like, crazy for that soon to be 29 year old movie movie (yeah it came it in 1980). We have the DVD. She called me and was all excited about it. It isn’t even scheduled for release until September 2009,and that may change.

    She is trying to get the shows on DVD. I don’t they are on DVD yet

    2009 will be about Fame movie countdown….ugh.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

    Now, that’s funny PoppaG, growing up when we said we were going shopping for some “kicks” we meant flat shoes!

    Raqi, isn’t he always….ok Melo, I’m ready!

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

    I knew that it was gonna happen sooner or later, Mrs. PG has found out that there will be a Fame remake released in theaters next year…smh.

    She is, like, crazy for that soon to be 29 year old movie movie (yeah it came it in 1980). We have the DVD. She called me and was all excited about it. It isn’t even scheduled for release until September 2009,and that may change.

    She is trying to get the shows on DVD. I don’t they are on DVD yet

    2009 will be about Fame movie countdown….ugh. Well, at least Debbie Allen is in this one, too.

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

    Poppa I can’t even recall my sons calling them anything but the brand they are wanting. “Ma can I get some AirForce Ones”. “Ma I want some of those new Jordan’s” and my youngest son ask for cleats when needed.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

    Ok. Never heard that before. Somewhat akin to “bite me!”

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

    I have co-workers who always ask how can I wear heels everyday. They ask if I have any flat shoes. I always reply, I have a few kicks in my closet. WOW, never heard anyone refer to sneakers as kicks!

    By JustMe

    December 30, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

    Raqi Congrats on the new addition to your family.

    LOL abc your English lesson is accurate.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

    Ok. Never heard that before. Somewhat akin to “bite me!”

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

    Stormy,MICKYDEE,Fogo di chao,the jamaican joint on memorial(anywhere),Cheese-cake..all depends on how much u wana spend…. WE proly hitting the cheese cake early tmrow and then retire home for the eve celebs and then i’ll sneek out by myself(alone) to a lewd party smewhere in lithonia……hehehe.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

    hmmmm I understand your point, I mean to assert that people are mistaken in their assumptions about the acceptability by other people of poor verbal presentation.

    @ abc - Nooow we’re in the same book. See my blog-style is just that;…a style/artform/Ceeology, if you will? not distracting I don’t try to come across as grammar master on here. I’m just glad folks “get me”, and i hope when i reply that people not assume i’m to “colorful”.

    I’m ok with not being able to portray the message exactly as the “audience” get it. As long as YOU get it.

    btw- i’m not offended…glad that you entertained the idea that i was.

    Thanks…

    By The Truth

    December 30, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

    storm my all time fav in atlanta is Pappadeuxs.

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

    Dreams Margarita is my fave drink, so yes I like tequila. I’ve never gone out for NYE, it’s always church and maybe a get together.

    Raqi this is way late We took my godson to the game Sunday. While I don’t do a lot of cussing at the games, my phrases are a lot more colorful while yelling at a football game than normal. I had to temper my tongue a lot Sunday.

    The cutest thing was when his mother called my other BF and me telling us to listen to the monster we created. She held the phone up and we could hear my godson yelling ‘GET HIM!! AWW MAN!!’ He was watching a football game…I almost teared up a little at him yelling at the TV, LOL.

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

    LOL BlueK I just saw your comment. I should have known you would pick up on the spanking and like that.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

    Seems like quite a few of us will be leaving 2008 as double posters!!!

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

    Melo

    Thanks…but no thanks for the MICKYDEES suggestion.

    We are trynna beat the “New Year’s Eve” crowd.

    Prolly, under 100 for both.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

    then they move/retire here Its the cold and cost of living that makes them stay Cee.How many Georgians here have been to Alabama or Fl..raise ur damn hands?? Raqi, U..i never take for granted..u can work it….and u proved it..

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

    Thanks JustMe

    I wonder how many times a day can you catch Prince Harry uttering “man ‘um tired” or “wow didcha see dat”. I bet more than people would imagine when he is with is friends.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

    Seems like quite a few of us will be leaving 2008 as double posters!!!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

    How about Legal Seafoods across from the aquarium. Very reasonable prices and the food is delicious.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG i was a FAME faithful viewer too.

    Fogo De Chão

    Melo you know that’s worth the trip from Lithonia…why you trippin? Take Queen to Fogo.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

    Stormy, my child and I ate @ Legal Seafoods for $85. We were greedy w/the appetizers and I had the best Mojoito (sp?) to date. If you go, remember they validate your parking and take $5.00 off the parking fee of $10.00. The ambiance is laid back. Casual attire is the way to go. I was a bit dressed since it was my b-day!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

    How about Legal Seafoods across from the aquarium. Very reasonable prices and the food is delicious.

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee I must say this Fakecons team is not as big a group of tossers as I thought they would be this year. But Sunday’s game could have bloody well been the “Steven Jackson” show. Bloody hell! Everytime he had the ball he was bloody brill! 10 yards..everytime. He was dishy to look at too. I would shag him.

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee oh good, so I’ll bring the Don Julio, after church of course. lol

    Stormy What kind of food do you like? Are you looking for taste, atmoshpere, or some combo of both?

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

    Stormy

    I don’t know what part of town that you are located

    Here are our top three favorite places for “us” time.

    (1)I always like Wildfire. It is a Chicago based restaurant that has a perimeter mall location here. Every time that I have eaten there, I have gotten great food and great service.

    (2) Stoney River is one of my favorite steak places. They, too, have always given us great service. *One year for our anniversary they made a Happy Wedding Anniversary card signed by the staff and gave each of us a free dessert and a bottle of wine. We go to the one at Cumberland Mall. It can be expensive.

    (3) Houstons/West Paces Ferry location. It isn’t as busy as the other ones, but it still is busy. Tuesdays may not be so bad. Prices aren’t so terrible. I believe that there is a Houstons location in the Perimeter Mall location as well.

    I wouldn’t come downtown tonight. I drive through downtown at lunch and it seems that LSU fans have taken over. The Chick-Fil_A bowl is tomorrow.

    Trust there is nothing wrong with Outback or Longhorn these day either. They are good for “dating on a budget”. We’ve even gotten food to go and pulled out the Vera Wang China for our own dinner.

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

    JustMe How are you?

    Raqi are you trying to say that in the heat of the act, I might not have minded? hmmm, that’s an interesting thought - to be so into ‘it’ that something like a filthy mouth won’t bother me…

    Stormy What type of food do you like? Last year my friends and I went to dinner at Harlem Bar after church - it wasn’t crowded at all when we arrived

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

    Stormy, my child and I ate @ Legal Seafoods for $85. We were greedy w/the appetizers and I had the best Mojoito (sp?) to date. If you go, remember they validate your parking and take $5.00 off the parking fee of $10.00. The ambiance is laid back. Casual attire is the way to go. I was a bit dressed since it was my b-day!

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

    raising hand…

    melo…new york & philly friends say it’s because of the hospitality.

    Now which is it?

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

    Fogo is my kids favrite Cee.Those africans munch on meat like crazy.Actually,that might be a better choice than Cheesecke coz i plan on taking lots of gin after that.And gin makes me real hard,i’ll take that punishement on the QUEEN later as we welcome 2009,after my lewd romp at the lithonia party.Guess where I saw that invite..u wont believe where i was trolling….???

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

    Raqi

    I can’t even recall my sons calling them anything but the brand they are wanting. “Ma can I get some AirForce Ones”. “Ma I want some of those new Jordan’s” and my youngest son ask for cleats when needed.

    I have never owned a pair of Jordans and never really wanted a pair. I have had plenty of Nikes, FILA, Reeboks, and even British Knights. My cousin was stationed in Seoul, South Korea and could get us any shoe pretty cheap. So, shoes didn’t impress me. I had vans that I used sell to the skater kids in high school. I also sold them Chuck Taylor in Every color. I had an overseas hook up and I utilized it.

    It was amazing how much those shoes didn’t matter when it was up to me to buy them. We got a whole lot pickier when our own money is involved.

    By Page1908

    December 30, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

    Leggs LOL @ you always saying “my child” instead of just saying daughter.

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

    Fiery there’s Copelands, Flemings Steakhouse, McCormicks & Schmicks, Dunwoody Tavern, Figos, Macaroni Grill…do you need more?

    There is a restaurant called Milk & Honey that my friend Doc was telling me about. It’s off of Howell Mill on Huff Road. She says it is really nice and quaint when you are looking for a quiet intimate setting. Mase and I are going to try it out in the near future

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

    melo…hush with the booty talk…

    I’m getting a english lesson today. I shall not get zulu translations intertwined in my session.

    What invite?

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

    Kym you are cracking me up! Yes, Steven Jackson was running all over us but I attribute his success to the fact that my Falcon husband, Lawyer Milloy, wasn’t playing…

    Leggs I forgot there was a Legal Seafoods here. Thanks for the reminder.

    PoppaG I’ll have to try Wildfire, I just made plans to have dinner with a friend near Perimeter Mall - I think I’ll suggest Wildire. Thx!

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

    Stormy be careful asking Poppa for dining advice unless if u roll with ball players. U see here It can be expensive is polite for its expensive,it will wipe away ur gas and electric budget money next time ask commoners like…..u know..

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

    Cee

    Fogo De Chão

    If only one person eats, you can spend less than $100.

    I thought she said that she wanted the cost to be cheaper than a 100.00.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

    Page1908, it’s a habit with me saying “my child”. When I started blogging w/strangers for the first time, didn’t want ppl to know whether I had a son or a daughter! This is family now, but it’s a habit.

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

    I like/ will try almost anything…my husband is not really a seafood fan. He likes big steaks, pork and of course the barnyard pimp. LOL

    Thanks for the heads up Poppa…cause we probably would have headed for downtown.

    I heard Stoney River at Perimeter was good.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

    lol @ melo 3.49 …silly.

    yeah PoppaG now you know i’ve been looking for a gold pair of Chuck’s. so tell me where i can find…

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

    LOL Tazzee I am just saying that there is nothing like the expression of deeply moaned verbal sentiments of carnal pleasure being whispered in my ear. A tune I love to hear every time even when it does come as a “oh shyt” “sweet muther..” “your p…” (Stop) when it is the right man. I kinda felt like you at one time, but when it happened I was more turned on that I would have imagined. But it has to come gradually and comes off better when whispered in sincere passion. You could be surprised. I was. But that just me.

    Well I take that back. The sound of urgent pleading to be pleasured in the heat of passion is right up there too. “oh baby please let me “do you” (nicely put for the internet and tender eyes sake) now” when you are playing the teasing game.

    Don’t mean to be so blunt but that’s all I was snickering about. LOL You just never know.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

    Page1908, it’s a habit with me saying “my child”. When I started blogging w/strangers for the first time, didn’t want ppl to know whether I had a son or a daughter! This is family now, but it’s a habit.

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

    Stormy Atlanta has most of what you would want in restaurants.

    If you like Thai, there are a few good places…Nan Thai, Pattaya, Siam Square A few good Ethiopian spots as well…Meskerem, Queen of Sheba If you like Italian, Carrabas is never bad for the money. Some good steaks spots if that’s your preference…Morton’s, Ruth’s Chris, Pampass If you want churrascarias…Fogo, Fire of Brazil, Sal Grosso If French cuisine is your thing…La Madeleine

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

    I’m not a big eater, and I want to go to Fogo De Chão but know it would be a waste of money!

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG you know i’m not suggesting anything to anyone that on a budget. That’s a out-the-budget spot.

    Their beef, or bison i guess, is the most tender, though.

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

    We live in Tyrone.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

    I’m not a big eater, and I want to go to Fogo De Chão but know it would be a waste of money!

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

    Raqi gotcha ;-)

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

    My friend Deni and I were riding around trying to find some little hole in the wall intimate type of restaurants. She was looking for some where nice to take her husband-to-be that is away from the large crowds.

    She is ready to declare her undying love for him. LOL j/k But not really. j/k

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

    Leggs a giftcard to said place you might would try, and is pretty pricey will be given away or trashed?

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

    there is nothing like the expression of deeply moaned verbal sentiments of carnal pleasure being whispered in my ear u not allowed to say that to Tazzee coz u goad her to sin DreamsMaterialize if u been to Fogo,Fire of Brazil seems like a bad immitation.Been to Fire and was not impressed at all!!I guess i thoght they were on the same standard with Fogo,but nope,it was a waste of my money..

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG Did you read about Blagojevich’s pick for Senate? The Dems in Illinois are vowing to fight the pick (Roland Burris)..nevermind the guy picked is a ex-attorney general and was the first black politican to win statewide office back in 1978. No, they are not objecting to Burris, they are just objecting to Blagojevich making the decision on who to pick. What a bunch of wankers!

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

    LEGGS Fire of Brazil doesn’t have the atmoshpere, but the prices are much more reasonable than Fogo.

    Raqi Cafe Circa on Edgewood is a real cool spot that you would never know was there. The they have live music and the food is pretty good.
    www.cafecircaatl.com

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

    Poppa I remember one year we all got Trax for Christmas. Man Trax. That was a sad day on December 25. My dad was a aerospace engineer and my mom an academic instructor. Now you gone tell a rocket scientist and a teacher couldn’t afford more than that. Yeah they could. My dad just liked to get a deal when he could. I think that may be the same year my mom got a brand new Mercedez. Man I tell you…

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

    No, if I knew I would be receiving an gift card from said establishment I would ask that they not get me one. I don’t want to waste anyone’s money. I understand it’s a lot of food and too much food at one time simply shuts down my appetite. Nor do I need to go to all you can eat places because I rarely go back for seconds. However, if I received the gift card w/out any warning, then I will simply have to take some people w/me to help me eat.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

    We live in Tyrone whaat,thats GA,u not allowed on this blog…..lol

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

    Dreams I went to Cafe Circa on my birthday this year. I was a little disappointed, but I think it was because of the music they had - they have a great salad though. I’m definitely going to try that place again.

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

    Melo No doubt Fogo has Fire of Brazil beat. Now Sal Grosso tends to be preferred by Brazilians for authenticity. Not as pricey as Fogo either.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

    No, if I knew I would be receiving an gift card from said establishment I would ask that they not get me one. I don’t want to waste anyone’s money. I understand it’s a lot of food and too much food at one time simply shuts down my appetite. Nor do I need to go to all you can eat places because I rarely go back for seconds. However, if I received the gift card w/out any warning, then I will simply have to take some people w/me to help me eat.

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

    Clark Howard was saying if you received a gift card it is wise to use it immediately. Corporations are going out of business to fast now and you could get stuck with a card for an out of business establishment. So use them now.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

    Stormy

    Being that I grew up on the Soutside (Hampton), I know Tyrone, GA-Fayette. Honestly, if you just want to have a good meal…Bugaboo Creek has a good menu It isn’t fancy, but it is good. One of those are in Fayetteville.

    You what…at the corner of 14th and Peachtree there is a place called Trois. (Across from Colony Square in Midtown) It have three levels. Bar is one level, Restaraunt on second level, and lounge is the third level. The food is great. Ambiance is cool. The lamb and hanger steak are incredible. I can vouch for that. The oysters with cucumber are good. We spend $60 bucks and had some good food.

    It shouldn’t be crowded tonight. Tomorrow will be a bigger night for them.

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

    Melo

    I love my city…not too far, not too close.

    If anyone wants to visit…they are going to call first. LOL

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

    WHERE Dreams is Sal Grosso?? i wld try them on ur recommendation.The thing i hate the most tho,wasting my money on bad food and bad restrant.Thats why i eat only at prefereed places i been to be4 and mostly at home coz what most pple consider good food is not, in my book.Most pple here cant cook so they dont know good food from bad! i mean that.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

    Leggs…gotcha. I was about to ask you for any gf like that you didn’t want.

    melo you are cracking me up today. Tyrone is in Fayette county. It’s near Fayettville.

    By Raqi

    December 30, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

    Cafe Circa…is that the place across from where javaology used to be? My friend Lacy was telling us about it. She said there is a place right next to the old javaology that is pretty good. The only thing about dining downtown is no limited parking spaces.

    Lacy said she and her date parked at the Marta on Decatur Street and walked to Cafe Circa, if that’s the same place. I guess if the weather is right and you are with a crowd that could be an option.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

    Stormy

    One more place that I’d like to recommend…Agave. It is very good also. Southwestern food theme.

    It is located on Boulevard.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

    You guys are cracking me up w/all these restaurants. I haven’t been to nare one of them. I’ve been to Pappas!

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

    Bugaboo Creek,its aaaight(said with a scrowl on ma face) i go there on stnecrest on fridays smetimes or with fam and queen for sme fish and what not…not bad.But its New Year eve,u may want sme better!!

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

    Shamrock Park and Redwine park…

    Stormy are those still the “spot” as far as youth hanging spot?

    Redwine is where people were found…oh yeah i’m not suppose to share that.

    By Stormy

    December 30, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

    PG

    We may just keep it local…eventhough Stony River is sounding really good.

    Peachtree City has Outback & Longhorn. Bugaboo is in Fayetteville and Newnan.

    Melo For your information…Tyrone is just down the street from Fairburn, unincorporated Fulton County, sir.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

    You guys are cracking me up w/all these restaurants. I haven’t been to nare one of them. I’ve been to Pappas!

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee Yeah I know they switch to music up sometimes. I’ve been twice, and each time they had a pretty good jazz set with a really good voalist.

    Melo I never say how good a restaurant is based on what I can eat at home. Most of the time there is no comparison. Sal Grosso is pretty good. I feel you on wasting money though. lol

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

    Ok, Cemeeli, I hear you. I got 2 Starbucks gift cards and I don’t drink coffee. My child…umm daughter wants some cappacino, but isn’t that made from coffee. Too young to drink coffee.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

    melo Bugaboo on Stone Crest is okay. But like PoppaG said, it’s what you pay for and they do give you good for what you spend there.

    You just take Queen to F.

    By Tazzee

    December 30, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

    PoppaG have you ever been to Redfish Bistro (I think that’s the name of the place)? I keep getting emails from that place and I’m thinking of going there one day. I think it’s on Memorial (or Boulevard or Edgewood, LOL)

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

    Stormy i got u.Any party places in Tyrone?? and phine sisters???? which hwy i use?? So where is Grosso maayne??

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

    Melo

    That one at Stonecrest was plain pathetic. Darn shame that they was such a difference between the Fayetteville one and the Lithonia one. Even the one near Gwinnett Place Mall, was better than that Lithonia location.

    Honestly, everything that I have had over there with the exception of Gladys and Ron’s Chicken and Waffles has been subpar compared to other parts of the city. I place a high importance on service. Service seems to lack over there. I extremely disappointed by C’est Bon on Panola Road. So much so that I vowed to never go back nor recommend them to anyone. I stayed away from the attempt of a Camp Creek location.

    Leggs

    My wife like Mojitos. Loca Luna makes a mango mojito that she absolutely loves.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

    Ok, Cemeeli, I hear you. I got 2 Starbucks gift cards and I don’t drink coffee. My child…umm daughter wants some cappacino, but isn’t that made from coffee. Too young to drink coffee.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

    Leggs - I’m not a big coffee person eiher. hmmph!

    You wanna share a LongHorns giftcard. I like there lil onion appetizers but i don’t care for their salty beef.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee i dont know about memorial dv hostimg me.U might wanna just assume roaches will be part of the menu and just deal wit it….lol

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee I have been to Redfish. Posh new orleans style food. Personally I found it a bit overpriced..for the portions.

    I actually have a postcard for 20.00 off a dinner for two at No Mas..I love the atmosphere there and the food is not bad either.

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee, wld u go to a restrant on moreland??? LOL…i wdn’t..I associate those 2 streets with seedy stuff……..

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

    Melo never steps out of character!!!

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

    C’est Bon on Panola Road and Gladys place been there once to both and they wont see my money again,ever.Crap!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

    WOW, a mango mojito…licking my lips. Sounds delicious!

    When I get more gift cards, you’ll be the first to know Cee.

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

    Cest bon’ has been closed for a minute PoppaG.

    When i had my mom’s 50th Birthday dinner there they were really good w/ service. Of course when they saw i was coming to claim the fireplace room, they saw $$$ signs, so of course i got service and the best of their cajun cuisine.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee

    We haven’t tried Redfish. We have a 50% off coupon. They have common owner (s) as Agave and got it from Agave.

    Melo

    Tyrone is accessible by I-85 south.

    Stormy

    Newnan…..Sprayberry’s. The attorneys here love that stuff.

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

    Melo (let me take off my brit hat) you have got to be the &(& mofo I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Seriously you need to take your jungle drum beating a* back to what ever bush you crawled out. How in the f(( are you going to generalize a resturant simply because of the location. You are one simple azz mofo. First off the area of memorial drive where Redfish is located is apart of the ever growing loft communities that are spring up all over Atlanta, particularly downtown. Here is a history lesson simple Simba.. Memorial drive is 26 miles long and runs from downtown atlanta to stone mountain. But you wouldn’t know that because instead of learning the history of the place you moved too you decided to base your knowledge on what you think you know. Stupid azz buster!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

    Melo never steps out of character!!!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

    WOW, a mango mojito…licking my lips. Sounds delicious!

    When I get more gift cards, you’ll be the first to know Cee.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

    Cee

    I can’t say that I’m surprised. I have a harder time with bad service than anything. They rank below that horrible North Ave IHOP (which is now a chinese restaruant).

    I should have thrown shoes at C’est Bon. That is how bad they were.

    Leggs

    I’m sure that mango mojito is some sugary concoction that gets her buzzed before she realizes it. But she loves it.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

    I thought Cest bon’ turned into a meat market (not the meat you eat….well)!!!

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

    Melo http://www.salgrosso.com

    So what are the hot restaurants on the south side? I know most of the north side spots. Sometimes it just seems so far to drive down there. lol

    By Cemeeli

    December 30, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

    good night ya’ll.

    Kym - Right near 6 Feet.

    :)

    By MELO

    December 30, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

    Stupid azz buster! U got a good argument for ur case..Kym,aspiring lawyer????

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

    I thought Cest bon’ turned into a meat market (not the meat you eat….well)!!!

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

    Good night everyone!

    Please remain watchful until you close your eyes for the night.

    Peace out!

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 30, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

    PG Man I couldn’t stand that IHOP on north ave. glad it’s gone.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 30, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

    Kym

    You got reeled in by Melo.

    But, I thought he said Moreland.

    Which would still be bad assessment by him. Everyone knows that Little 5 points is on Moreland. There is Front Page News and the Vortex. Moreland becomes Briarcliff when it crosses Ponce De Leon. Same Street different name. I just call it 23. he could have taken the time to look it up.

    By Leggs

    December 30, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

    Good night everyone!

    Please remain watchful until you close your eyes for the night.

    Peace out!

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    December 30, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

    Melo Trust me I am not aspiring to deal with turds like you.

    It is apparent from your post that you know nothing about Atlanta outside of the ho-strolls you travel down. Trust me all of memorial drive is not like the area around Clarkston, Georgia buster.

    By hmph

    December 31, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

    Well it looks like I am the only one that coerced into working today. Over half of the people that work here are off so I guess I will go find some other lonely unlucky soul to chat with and make this day go by faster.

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 31, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

    hmph I see you. I’m working too so don’t feel bad.

    By hmph

    December 31, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

    LOL DreamsMaterial. I was supposed to be off today but got duped into coming in based on a promise of getting to extra personal days next year but it is ghost town here. It’s okay though because on any normal day I would be here and I hadn’t made any major plans for today. I just need to be out of here by 3:00 to get ready for our outing tonight.

    Is anyone else lurking around these parts?

    By The Truth

    December 31, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

    Hmph and Dreams I’m your boss and you can both go home. Happy New Year.

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 31, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

    Hmph Yeah it’s empty in here too, but it’s all good. Lots of people without jobs right now, so I won’t complain too much. lol what are you doing tonight?

    Truth wassup bruh. my boss isn’t even here man. see you in the ‘09.

    By MELO

    December 31, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

    Hapy New Year Truth,Dream and Hmph,you too Madea, i mean Kym

    I had to bust in the door too coz u guys locked me out of this illegal joint!! hahaha

    By Tazzee

    December 31, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

    Morning Folks!

    I’m at work too. Again, the downside of changing jobs at the end of the year. But I will be taking a vacation day Friday!

    By The Truth

    December 31, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

    Hey Tazz and Melo. Happy New Year to you.

    These jobs are ruthless. Wont even let you get a day off to celebrate dealing with their azzes all year.

    By hmph

    December 31, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

    Dreams having a job to be stuck at is definitely not something I have to complain about. I am blessed. My boss is not here either. That explains why I am.

    We are going to a hotel party at the Hilton hosted by a friend which is a good idea. If I was hosting a party for a celebration like this and serving alcohol I would want to know that those we have a bit too much to drink can get a room and sleep it off before getting on the road. My husband and I may get a room to stay over night to avoid some of those crazy buzzed drivers that could be out tonight. Last year one of my friends got rear ended by a drunk driver. Thankfully she didn’t get hurt. And it’s going to be late so I would rather stay overnight and drive in the morning.

    By MELO

    December 31, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

    Im actually chilling at home all night.New Year’s eve is alwayz crazy and i want to at least, make it to the other side without worrying about myself in some crazy club or stuff like that. What u up to Dreams,Truth, Hmph,Tazz,u hanging out??

    By Tazzee

    December 31, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

    Melo I’m going to church then a gathering at my friend’s house. I’ve never gone out on NYE so I’ve never experienced the crazies.

    By Poppa Grande

    December 31, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

    Hello All…

    It is a ghost town here, too. But, I get more work done without having to worry about interruptions.

    At least they bought us lunch, but we pretty much trapped with the Chick-Fil-A parade downstairs and the streets being closed.

    By MELO

    December 31, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

    Good luck everybody and hope to see and hear from u on the other side.Happy New Year once more,wish u prosperity and happyness!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By Jamoca

    December 31, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

    I had to work today as well, until about 12:30…I’m glad decided to close the office early today!

    now in my best voice of Ray Valentine (from Trading Places)… Merry New Year!!! Hope to hear/read everyone next year and please be safe out there :-)

    By hmph

    December 31, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

    Tazzee I guess no matter what the circumstances are that has brought us to work today, it is better than the alternative of not having a job at all.

    We were not going to do anything major this year but then a friend called and ask if we could please make it to her party. We said yes not knowing the darn thing is going to be in Cartersville. An hour drive from where we live. If we attempted to drive home after the party we are probably looking at getting home at 3 in the morning.

    By Tazzee

    December 31, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

    hmph So true. I’m very thankful for my job in this economy.

    A one hour drive on NYE? Not for me.

    Have an awesome New Year folks! Blog with you good people on the flip side.

    By DreamsMaterialize

    December 31, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

    Melo wassup man. I’m chillin wit lil Dreams and lil Dreamette tonight. Got them some party favors and sparkling cider. Gettin some Don Julio for myself.

    Hmph Yeah I know the feeling. The hotel joint sounds like the place to be. Might as well get a room and call it a night.

    Tazzee PG Jamoca wassup.

    By Angie aka Beautiful

    December 31, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

    i had to drop in and say happy new year to blogsville! i appreciate, from the bottom of my heart, all of the advice and criticism you guys have thrown my way this year. 2008 … i honestly didn’t see it comin’. what a year, huh?

    my christmas was very good. best one in the last five years or so. kel was given a #5 garnet jersey. he was shocked. he has been asking for it for months. what’s the deal with this guy? i must check him out!

    my date and i have planned for a fun formal night out on the town tonight (concert, dinner, fireworks). no palladium, lol. if you decide to party this evening, please be aware of your surroundings. it’s dangerous out there. wink if you decide to stay in, good idea.

    as you enter into 2009, please make sure you leave all 2008 baggage behind … everything that don’t add value to your life.

    see y’all next year. :-)

    By Poppa Grande

    December 31, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

    DreamsMaterialize

    What’s goin’ on, man?

    Have a safe and happy NYE celebration.

    Angie

    I got my nephew two jerseys:

    (1) Garnett (2) Troy Polamalu - Samoan Pittsburgh
    Steelers safety

    My nephew was shocked as well. I thought the boy was gonna cry. my sister worked for the State and was part of the cutbacks recently. He didn’t expect much, but we picked up the slack some..as well as his grandparents.

    May you all have a safe evening & enjoy you leap second tonight…

    Happy New Year to you all.

    By Kym aka Southern Girl (Gal)

    January 2, 2009 8:54 AM | Link to this

    Merry New Year Folks!

    By B.D.S

    January 2, 2009 3:35 PM | Link to this

    MARRY Happy new years… Yeah. I couldn’t get the Friday off Too,, Really! lol

    By Dan

    January 5, 2009 8:53 AM | Link to this

    Is this thing on????

    By Stormy

    January 5, 2009 9:23 AM | Link to this

    Still bootleg in ‘09. LOL

    By abc

    January 5, 2009 9:37 AM | Link to this

    Even when this thing works it’s pig-dog slow, and half the time, it’s broken.

    Operator error? I.T. Administrative sloth? Doesn’t matter, the net result is the same.

    By Leggs

    January 5, 2009 9:43 AM | Link to this

    Hello everyone! You’re right abc!

    By Cemeeli

    January 5, 2009 9:47 AM | Link to this

    Morning Dan…morning abc.

    Happy 2009 to all.

    By Leggs

    January 5, 2009 9:48 AM | Link to this

    Hello everyone! You’re right abc!

    By Dan

    January 5, 2009 9:52 AM | Link to this

    Morning CeeMee and to all a Happy New Year!

    Wonder if they’ll let us comment on Blanca’s topic today?

    By Stormy

    January 5, 2009 10:01 AM | Link to this

    Hello Everyone

    I hope that everyone had a safe and enjoyable holiday season.

    You would think that having a functional blog would be on someones resolution/goals list at the good ole AJC. But guess not!!!, sigh….

    By Leggs

    January 5, 2009 10:07 AM | Link to this

    HEY MLBs and WLBs. Hope everyone had a restful, relaxing and enjoyable time off.

    Unfortunately, 2009 and I’m still dbl posting.

    By Leggs

    January 5, 2009 10:13 AM | Link to this

    HEY MLBs and WLBs. Hope everyone had a restful, relaxing and enjoyable time off.

    Unfortunately, 2009 and I’m still dbl posting.

    By Raqi

    January 5, 2009 10:19 AM | Link to this

    I see nothing has changed. LOL

    Good Morning every one.

    By Leggs

    January 5, 2009 10:27 AM | Link to this

    THE BLOH IS NOW OPEN!

    By Leggs

    January 5, 2009 10:33 AM | Link to this

    THE BLOH IS NOW OPEN!

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