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Vanity, Thy Name is “Man”

I tend to enjoy checking out the bachelor pad aka his bat cave - just because I am curious (nosy?) about his home life. After doing a quick scan for baby items and kid’s toys (don’t laugh, I’ve been burned before!), I generally can tell a few things about the guy. Most of which are things I already knew or gathered from the first couple of dates and conversation.

When I was at “Ed’s” place, I went to his personal bathroom and noticed his collection of products. I wasn’t snooping (yet), but I had arrived just as he was shaving, so he told me to follow him there.

I made a sarcastic remark about his amount of prep time compared to mine, and he said that his grooming game was always on point. Well, I have to hand it to him, when he goes out, he looks as if he stepped off a photo shoot. I appreciate it, so much too! Goodness, there is nothing like a good-looking, well-groomed guy.

Guys, exactly how much “manscaping” do you do? Do you own a lot of grooming products, aside from shaving cream/aftershave? How often do you get haircuts? How long does it take you to dress for work, or a date? Have you ever been told that you were “vain” because you took great care of your appearance?

Ladies, do you think men are more vain then women these days? In your opinion, what is “overkill” for a guy’s grooming habits? Have you ever checked out guy’s place to gather a little more insight on his personality? Did you ever see signs of vanity?

Let’s keep it light and fun, people Happy Wednesday!

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By NY2GA

November 19, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Hey Wise, how are you. I am glad to see that you appreciate a man who takes the time to groom himself and cares about his appearance. While I don’t think a man should spend all his time in the mirror, I do think we should check ourselves out to make sure everything is tight. I mean come on ladies, you don’t want to be with that dude who is out with you and his hair is not combed or he has on a blue belt with brown shoes (I could go on and on), food in his teeth… etc, etc, etc..

Personally, I visit the barber 2x a week. Sunday for the work week haircut and shave, middle of the week to keep the line fresh and the beard tight..

By Leggs

November 19, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Good morning everyone. No, I don’t think men are more vain than women these days.

By MELO

November 19, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Blow Me,from yesterday,if i were to use another monikker,it wld be Kunta.I think the only other person with bad spelling is Rell,with his heavily ebonics-spiced lingo. On topic I take about 10 minutes in the bathroom.Shave once in 3 days and visit the barber every 3 weeks.I got nobody to impress.The only one looking vain good in my household is my wife.

By C tha 1

November 19, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

I don’t think alot of people will respond to this, but I’ll play along…

Exactly how much “manscaping” do you do? I just shaved this morning, for the second time in seven days.

Do you own a lot of grooming products, aside from shaving cream/aftershave? I don’t use a razor so I don’t use shaving cream either, they leave too many bumps on me. I learned early on to invest in a nice pair of clippers. Andis is the brand I go with, because that’s what most barbers use, they’re expensive but well worth it.

How often do you get haircuts? Every two weeks, because I know how to shape my own hair line up. I’ve been doing that since I was fourteen. I know how to cut my own hair too, but alot of the times I just don’t feel like it…call me lazy.

How long does it take you to dress for work, or a date? One hour. You gotta add the shower time and ironing clothes and that kind of stuff.

Have you ever been told that you were “vain” because you took great care of your appearance? No. Most women appreciates a guy that cleans up well.

By Raqi

November 19, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Some things are a man or woman thang. I think today’s men are far prissier than what I care for. While I do like a man that cares about his appearance I don’t like pretty boys or metrosexuals. I have a fondness for facial hair but it must be well kept. I like that permanent 5 o’clock shadow look or more like a one day old shave. A weekly or bi-weekly hair cut is good.

I think overkill is having a cedar chest full of “beauty” products, manicures of that beyond the sports nature, and any type of concealer or make-up product.

I like my man to be manly. Clean and fresh with an occasional splash of cologne. No plucking of the eyebrows and no nail polish. And clear is still considered polish. No shaving of the legs, underarms or arms.

There will be only one woman in my relationship and I have that market cornered already.

By Dan

November 19, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Don’t really have to brush my hair everyday (keep a low cut);

Cut my own hair, do my own line;

I dress in utilitarian fashion for work (simply on function, not much style);

I have very few occasions that require me to dress;

Getting ready for work is simple (I’m a lay out my clothes, iron once a week kinda guy);

Other than when I choose to dress for a date or a friend’s/SO’s company outing I really don’t worry that much about my appearance.

But when it’s time….“so tall and lanky, my suit it should thank me, I make it look good to be this ‘hood Meyer Lansky”—Jay-Z (American Gangster)

By C tha 1

November 19, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

I always liked the Sprite commercial that said “Image is nothing, Thirst is everything”. I also like the Gatorade commercial that goes with the slogan: “Thirst…is it in you?” (or something like that) But unfortunately we don’t live in that type of society. In America, we are an image conscious people…especially black folks. Many people like to claim otherwise, but show up for work consistently with serious neglect to your grooming and watch raises and promotions pass you by. Better yet watch that girl you’ve been digging not give you the time of day. Even if you consider yourself to be on point women tend to put a certain type of polish on you that they want to see you in …. that’s if they like you.

I say all of that to say that people who consider today’s man prissy for shaving on a regular basis (and I hate doing it) are well within their rights. But they have to consider that People are in constant competition whether you acknowledge it or not. You gotta work your edge to get ahead.

By Raqi

November 19, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Ctha1 I agree with your post. Growing up my brothers used a simple shampoo, jergens lotion, deodorant and regular soap. That was it. Oh and a splash of their favorite cologne. And that is what I grew to believe was all a man needed to look and smell clean. Well they were boys back then. When I grew up and began to deal with men I learned a little more about the basics and the extremes of man-grooming.

My husband uses clippers also. He would occasionally shave his side beard leaving just a moustache and goatee, but now he keeps a full beard closely trimmed. I like it.

I appreciate the casual to business casual look for every day living. Even if it is jeans and a “T” make it work for you. Nice suits for work purposes and going out is just dandy. Nice shoes are a must. Whether casual or dressy, I like a man that does not wear raggedy, worn over or dirty shoes. And I believe in ironing everything so please don’t be wrinkled.

By MELO

November 19, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

One thing i dont do is iron,i take all my dress shirts/sweaters to the cleaners except my house/weekend sweaters and other shytt for the weekend that my wife launders at home.When im dressing up,no need to iron,everthing is pressed, so i dnt take time at all. I need a new set of socks tho coz i take too much time looking for the other lost sock/partners! When my wife and i are planning to go somewhere, i have to wait dressing up untill she is done coz i get frustrated waiting for her.She will line all her wardrobe on the bed,trying each outfit and asking for my opinion.That takes ages. U bought that stuff,so whats the problem with wearing it?Women are such a complicated species, i tell u.

By Leggs

November 19, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

And I believe in ironing everything so please don’t be wrinkled. Same here, same here.

By AmazonRed

November 19, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Good morning all! I’m flying high today.

There was this one guy I dated that was proud of his “metrosexuality.” He came to visit and had his own beauty counter in his toiletry bag… complete with Oil of Olay. :-/ That’s when I started thinking he might be another type of “sexual” and not the hetero kind. I mean, my idea of a good time is not going with him to get a pedicure (yes this happened).

As with anything, there needs to be a good balance. I’m a pretty low maintenance chick. Save for the hair salon, I do all my other grooming pretty much on my own, with some splurges here and there.

By C tha 1

November 19, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Grooming tips for dudes:

And I give this out in no sissy type of way because I had brothers and cousins who put me on game growing up and it’s suprises me how many dudes just don’t know what to do.

I have what many would call “good hair”…I also have very, very, very dry skin. If you want 360 waves the texture of hair doesn’t really matter, but the moisture in your skin does. I have the type of skin that vaseline can’t fix. Therefore, if I’m not on point drandruff and general ashyness will make me look homeless.

Search for a good product that fits you. It’s not a one size fits all type of deal. Dudley’s is a good one to use, but you won’t find it in Salley’s or any where like that. Barbers are the only people who carry that product and it works for me. Once your scalp is moist enough, it can help in having deep waves women want to take a surf board and go surfing.

By Raqi

November 19, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

When I inhale a good strong sniff of my man, I want to smell man not the Botanical Gardens.

By Dan

November 19, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

@Raqi

You’d prolly hate me then.

Becuase I wear suits, shirt/tie, and (sometimes) sweaters when I’m on site, when I’m in the office, it’s an oversized shirt, dirty shoes, and some unironed, paint stained jeans.

At that point, I bout don’t care.

By Raqi

November 19, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

melo All of our suits, dress shirts and whatnot goes to the cleaners, but everything else I wash and iron. Polo type shirts, t-shirts, pants…I iron. I iron the t-shirts that he wears under his shirts. It gives a much crispier look IMO. When he reaches in his drawer to get a shirt even just to sit around the house, it’s been pressed.

By MLL

November 19, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Good Hump Day! I love a man who takes pride in his appearance it speaks much volumn for me. I breifly dated a guy who used Johnson & Johnson baby products over kill baby oil everyday from head to toes. He said no more tears when he washed his hair..LOL. It took a while for me to get used to it…I missed that baby bottom.

Mytwo I got married young with my first marriage, I was 21. Early in the marriage I finished up my course in college and rec’ved my degree in business admin. Very soon after we started on making a family. My 1st husband had a great job that paid very well. We had the house, 2 cars, vacations every year. Life was going good. Years later that marriage ended I lived on what alimony and child support I rec’ved(when I rec’ved it) and soon there after I met my second husband. He was a business savy man who had big dreams and an even bigger heart, we started a business which I was able to utilize my business degree (not too much just a little). I continued my role as a homemaker,I did charity work and took short term courses to keep up with mainstream america. It wasn’t until after my husband passed away that I had to go to work, it was a hard adjustment. I was still moarning his death, I was an emotional wreck, school age kids, money was tight since we didn’t have much life insurance, the burial took just about all of it. I eventually lost the house and had to move into a small 2 bed room apartment. For a brief time we had to live on SS and what I could get from family and friends. There was so much things going on but I knew I had my Father in heaven on my side guiding me. I had my family and friends who pushed me when I wanted to give up but 8 years later I’m still going strong and working full time. I have 1 child in college and 2 at home. I had a lifestyle that I got used to by not working, an yes I would do it again if given the chance. I had my independence in both marriages, I was still me, I didn’t lose myself in either husbands, in each marriage we had a system even though I didn’t work outside of the home I still had responsiblities and had to own up to them. I was strong then and even stronger now.

By Leggs

November 19, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

I’m a firm believer when in public you should always be concerned about your appearance, and I don’t mean in full makeup 24/7. Just neat and presentable. Even in sweats and a baseball cap a man/woman can look good and smell nice!

By Raqi

November 19, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Leggs Yep, wrinkles tell a novel.

Ctha1 proper moisturizing and deodorizing is necessary. Like you said, we all have different types of skin, body chemistry and hair textures but IMO for men it should not go beyond what it takes to maintain. Men going to the extreme of being beautiful and flawless is just a whole other vain glory.

By MLL

November 19, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

are we touching on the metrosexual men here? LOL there’s a border line that men shouldn’t cross so they won’t appear to be gay. A man who is too vain I tend to look at sideways. Taking pride in your appearance and hoging the mirror or having mirrors in ever room is a bit too much for me. What’s up with these man purse?

By kimmie

November 19, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Morning Blog Fam Happy Wednesday

Raqi - Agreeing with your first 2 posts all the way. I like manly men too. Don’t need anyone competing with me all up in the mirror. Yes, shower, shave, deodorant & Jergens was all I was used to seeing my dad & brothers use too & wouldn’t you have it - my SO uses those things too! And yes, a splash of some nice cologne! I love to watch my SO shave & get dressed - reminds me so much of my dad, who was a manly man too.

All that men getting clear nail polish and pedicures is so “sweet” to me.

Amred - Did you see ATL Housewives last night? So Big Poppa dumped Kim - and they had only been dating 7 months - I would have thought longer since she was so “kept”! Anyway, did you see the ads for the reunion? Now that I can’t wait to see - looks like Lisa & NeNe want to jump on Kim! And yeah, I was right, Big Poppa is married! The OC girls are coming back and looks like they are trying to up the contraversy - maybe trying to compete with ATL’s ratings perhaps? We’ll see!

By MELO

November 19, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Johnson & Johnson baby products on a grown man?? i wld have to see a a diaper on him, otherwise that smell will give me a headache!!

By MLL

November 19, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

He came to visit and had his own beauty counter in his toiletry bag @ Ared that’s not over kill that road kill LOL was he gay or something?

By MLL

November 19, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

correction I meant taking pride in yourself is one thing…..but hogging the mirror and mirrors in every room is another.

By Sassette aka Kym

November 19, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All,

I like the smell of a man not flowers or cologne..I mean some cologne(AXE body spray) is ok. But I like the way a real man smells. I love the smell of a man who has just finish cutting the grass or digging in the dirt, washing the car. (Guess this is where my nature girl side comes out) because the smell of fresh cut grass…takes me right there. I would call this smell on a man Hardwork..or Manual Labor something like that.

By Raqi

November 19, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

A good hand lotion for men is Gold Bond. Ashy does not speak manly, it speaks just ashy. And rough hands are one thing but raggedy, pantyhose snagging, skin tearing hands are something totally different and uninviting.

By MLL

November 19, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

yes melo J&J baby products. His bathroom counter was lined up with them…I just know he had some baby wipes somewhere LOL

By MLL

November 19, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

in other words kym you like the smell of musky men LOL

By MELO

November 19, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Raqi,go ahead girl,u treating that man really well!! And im sure some smart females are getting good clues on how to keep him content.Cant go wrong.

By Leggs

November 19, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Raqi, I started to post that I even iron my slips believing they keep my skirts and dresses crisp looking. Then you posted that about your husband’s t-shirts. I truly agree. I hate wrinkles. Any of you can consider this “anal” if you like, but I sometimes re-iron clothes from the cleaners cuz there’s still wrinkles in them. Yep, I sure do!

By Raqi

November 19, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

melo actually I got the ironing of the underwear from my mother. I did it for my sons way before M came into the picture.

By Sassette aka Kym

November 19, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

MLL I guess so. I don’t mean funky musky..just male musky.

By MELO

November 19, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

I got the ironing of the underwear from my mother i know u dont call that territorial but instead,taking care of ur own.A man will appreciate that and anytime a stray thoght cmes to his mind but he sees that straight unwrinkled underwear when he goes to pee,his thoughts will get back in check and he thinks about u instead.Ur job is done.Ur mom taught u well!

By Lurker

November 19, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

A well put together man that can hang a suite and overall well groomed does it for me. Just old fashionly (is that a word) handsom. My first experience with all the prettiness of a metrosexual was a few years back with a guy I dated. He called himself introducing me to the better side of dating which entailed watching him stay groomed (i.e. manicures, pedicures, maticulous haircuts). Manual labor? Out. He wouldn’t engage in any activity that caused wear to his limbs and extremeties. Instead he’d hire a gardner, that kind of stuff. A bit much for me.

MELO Johnson & Johnson baby products on a grown man?? i wld have to see a a diaper on him, otherwise that smell will give me a headache LOLOLOL

Raqi gonna have to agree with your take. I like manly men and not really digging the metrosexual type. I too grew up with brothers and what I say in them, as they were quite manly growing up is what I’m accustomed.

C tha 1 You should tune into Oprah sometimes. Dr. Oz, she so often features often tell so much that would aide in helping with your ashyness. A woman featured last week was doing all kinds of crap to her skin because of bad acne in an effort to alleviate or tone down. Come to find out, all of her self medicating was a major part of the problem. Check it out sometimes, they have great remedies.

By The Truth

November 19, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Morning folks.

On grooming: I’m bald so I must shave every day or I have stubble. It takes five minutes. If you see hair on my head I stink because i haven’t showered. I have a stache and goatee so I trim myself up with a set of Andis trimmers (Lol C tha 1)I bought from my barber many years ago. Yesterday they went on the fritz so I’ll fix them or buy some, possibly off of ebay if they have them. I also have a cheap trimmer with a guard on it to lower my length. In addition I have the fragrant alcohol they use at the barber but don’t use it as much anymore. If I make a mistake I use a womans eyeliner to fill in any spaces that need correcting. It works like magic. Remember to smear it to thin it out.

I’ve tried a ton of colognes but like the heavier scents vs the fruitier shyt they’ve come out with.

On dressing, when I dress the beauty is in the accessories. Cole Han shoes, gator belts (black and rust), Rolex watch and Montblanc pens (all match and tie into my bracelet ring combination. All are silver and gold.

I prefer 3 button suits but the magic is the tie. A tight tie sets the whole thing off. The finishing piece is the socks that tie the shoes to the suit and tie. I have about 30 pairs of dress socks. Cuff links are in the arsenal and I have about 20 pairs but honestly I wasted my money because I rarely ever wear them. They looked better in the store than on me. To me they seem to fussy. I also have a cufflink box with a glass top that stores use to display their goods.

Another great trick is tight blazers. They have some nice patterns and solids so one jacket can work with 2 or 3 pairs of pants, making it appear you have more clothes than you really do.

Nowadays since business has dropped off I rarely put on anything other than my patched up blue jeans and shirts. I never wear tennis shoes unless I have on sweats so I have sandals or tims, depending on the weather.

Really my whole program takes 10-15 minutes and that includes the head shave. Btw, women love shaving my head for me. Their amazed at how they dont have to be gentle with it.

I do iron and have starch and sizing for lighter fabrics. I used to wear nothing but linen but that was for business so read above. I also send out all dress shirts for pressing. Must be neat.

Unseen tricks are a straight gig line (thats when the egde of your shirt lines up with the egde of your zipper to give a neat appearance (military) and making sure the tie hits right at the belt line. These are must do’s for a neat appearance.

When I was selling I tried to get my nails done every 2 weeks but now they look like I’ve been scraping concrete.

Finally, you’ve got to keep the ride tight to add to the picture.

Rell lets finish our convo mano y mano. Drop me a line at atlred01@yahoo.com and we’ll swap numbers.

By For Real

November 19, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

What up Blog Fam!

Maintainance Products:

  • Alcohol rubbing and licka

  • Vaseline the only thing that fight ash on me

  • Anti-bacteria Soap which i use to wash my hair with too

  • Deodorant

  • Lotion for my feet and my first playmate

  • Listerine If you don’t feel the burn it ain’t working

  • Toothpaste

  • Do-rag

  • Air freshner the one with the indian on it

  • Nail and toe clipper except when I see Slim, she bites them off for me.

  • Clipper for shaving every 3rd day skin too soft for a razor

  • Hair cut every two weeks

  • Suites, business cas, jeans, jogging suite, and just came out of the basement look

  • I think that’s it, yeah that’s it.

    By Sassette aka Kym

    November 19, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

    Now I am a fan of the iron..but I am not ironing underwear. Also, my son he irons his own clothes. I am of the school of you shall learn to wash dishes, wash your clothes and iron because at 18 years old and 90 days you will be out of my house and on your own. You will be responsible for yourself Now if he chooses not to it won’t be because he doesn’t know how. My son right now is not into grooming so “the boy” has to be reminded to wash all your 2000 parts..with soap, and brush your teeth..with toothpaste and wash your hair..with shampoo. I am sure down the line this will change. But, right now he happily smells like funky boy until I start yelling. It wouldn’t surprise me in the if he moved out west somewhere and wore shorts and sandals the rest of his days and live in a tree house.

    By SexyCool

    November 19, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

    coach is very well groomed…he takes his time to moisturize and shave daily…

    i would love to see him update his look a bit…for his ‘dress up’ he is stuck in the early 80’s kinda preppy look , back when jeans were still worn closer to the body…but hey, he’s clean, smells good and when he is confident that he in how he looks, no suggestions or hints or outright “your jeans are too tight“‘s will get him to change …

    so, it is what it is…he’s mine and i love him regardless…

    on the other hand…i’m glad he’s not one of these 40-something year old dudes running around dressed like they’re 19…

    By Lurker

    November 19, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

    For Real according to Oprah’s show last week, anti-bacterial soap is too harsh for washing the hair. Invest in a shampoo. That soap strips the natural oils.

    By Staceye AKA Black Mamba

    November 19, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

    I love a well groomed man. I like a man who is comfortable enough in his mnahood to get manicures. I hate a man trying to touch me with rough azz hands. OUCH!!! A man who makes sure his hair is cut and his cologne is good; dresses to impress and he takes care of his skin,from the outside…he is a keeper. Now the rest could be a whole other story.

    C Tha ! Question…are those Andis clippers small enough for say…a woman’s bikini area? I am asking because I use razors (I refuse to put hot wax near my snatch) and I use Tend Skin afterwards but sometimes I get the problem you say you had with razors. And that’s not cool. I even tried Nair/Neet…burned like hell! LOL

    Kym Sounds like you love the phermones in a guy. I do too. My ex thought it was the weirdest thing! LOL

    MLL Did you ask the Baby products guy if he had sensitive skin? I used baby lotion and try to only out the perfume on my clothes because some times they cause me to break out. I have even broken out from the laundry detergent.

    By Riz

    November 19, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

    We’re in a financial downturn. Outside of standard cleanliness products (soap, shaving cream, non-brand name aftershave and shampoo) - I’m not going overboard.

    I get a haircut once every three weeks and I don’t spend more than $20.

    I only use lotion or chapstick in the winter because that’s when my skin dries up.

    Anyone woman expecting $100 cologne or insanely overpriced grooming products from Italy is NOT the type of person I’m interested in. If what’s in my bathroom drawers is more important to you than how I manage my finances and take care of myself - I’m not interested, move on to your next target.

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

    Morning!

    Melo I agree i can’t have a man smelling like a baby or flowers & garden, like Raqi mentioned.

    I appreciate a mens getting “cleaned up” I am a fanatic about nice hair cut on a man (maybe due to having a son). He’s somewhat of a clean cut type lil guy that’d be after all the rough housing, and outside sports…lately i’ve notice he likes to switch it up & wear jeans instead of NBA jock look, make it a point to wear his lil cologne, as well as a nice hair cut. Thank goodness!!!

    9:32am - I’m in Macy’s this morning, (shat-up Melo) purchasing a sweater and stocking up on socks and tights….i notice a lady walking along the same line of trends i’m in (Indian woman) She’s peeping me, I’m peepin all the shopping she’s doing, she had a gang of stuff! She checks out, and heads out to leave…few mins later i pick up my lil items and head to check out. Before i could get to the register i look down and guess what nice shiny silver and blue square twinkles in my eye? The lady’s AMEX card!!! (her picture was on the back is how i recognized) I’m like dangit lady!…so i go look for her and she’s gone…Before i was able to give it to CS rep. she came back in the store on the cell phone walking as if she was doing round 2. I shuffle/run behind her to give her the card. When i said discretly and i slid it in her had, “Missy, here’s your card be careful”. She was very grateful…I hugged her. i dunno why and smile. The gratitude was her about in tears. I was thinking to myself if i was her, i woulda went home and calm down. Whatever!!! That lady asked me about the lil sweater i had in my hands and where should could find…that’s a serious shopaholic Lol.

    all that ^^ for this….PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR SURROUNDINGS!!!

    By Raqi

    November 19, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

    melo Thanks. Although I was not doing it for that reason I am glad to know that from a man’s POV it is appreciated.

    However, he is getting spoiled. LOL The other day as I was heading out to come to work I took the sheets and blanket of the bed and put them in the washer. I didn’t have time to put cleans on so I just pulled up the duvet and put the pillows back on leaving it to be done later that evening. When I got home I didn’t think about it and later that night M went to get into the bed and there were no linens on there. Instead of doing it himself from the jump he went back downstairs to tell me there were no sheets on the bed and he was ready to go to bed. I told him there were some clean ones in the linen closet and he asked “you are not going to come and put them on?” Ah, no. I am doing something already. He stood for until I gave him the “hold your breath and wait for me to do it” look. He grudgingly went and did it.

    That man lived alone for 15 years and I have seen him with my own two eyes put sheets on a bed and make it up. We have only been married for 3 years and he is slowly forgetting how to do these types of things. LOL

    His excuse for everything always is “when I tried to help you times before you would tell me you got it”. sigh

    By For Real

    November 19, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

    Truth When I was selling I tried to get my nails done every 2 weeks but now they look like I’ve been scraping concrete. - Awwww dayummmm!!! Say it ain’t so Truth you use to sell azz???? Or did I read that wrong.

    Lurker Thanks for the info but my hair seems to like it. I have been doing it all my life.

    For Real now taking off his draws and handing them to Raqi for a touch up.

    By Dan

    November 19, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

    I had to jump on that Andis Comment

    My brother shaved with a razor unitl I started shaving and using the Andis joints. He had bumps, I never did. And in classic “big brother” style, he took my clippers and I had to buy another pair.

    But it seems that for the brothers, Andis is the move.

    @Melo

    Every man should use some baby powder, it prevents chaffing bruh.

    @For Real

    I bout use that same routine, nothing fancy.

    @Truth

    Manicures, huh? Never would’ve guessed it.

    While I’ve had a couple manicures, a question for the fellas:

    What is the consensus on a Pedicure? Personally, I’m against it.

    By Leggs

    November 19, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

    You learn well Grasshopper Cemeeli (LOL).

    By For Real

    November 19, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

    2E’s: door bell ringing Who the hell is it!

    For Real: Its me For Real.

    2E’s: For Real what you doing over?>

    FR: Why answer the doh like you got a warrant?

    2E’s: LOL boy you so crazy.. What’s good.

    FR: Well I remembered you were looking for some clipper for puddy area so I bought you one.

    2E’s: Awwwwwww thank you For Real. That was so sweet. Can I see it?

    FR: Sure! Pulll your pants down and I will help you shave.

    2E’s: Oh okay thanks. There they are down but I see it first.

    FR: Sure! Zipppppppp!!! Buzz, Buzz

    By The Truth

    November 19, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

    For Real hell yess you read that wrong. I meant selling real estate. LOL

    Staceye yes you cn use them to trim yourself up. Try this link on ebay. They work like nobodies business. This set comes with the guards too so you can hit edges and length. I can come over and show you how to use thme if you need me.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Andis-Outliner-II-Trimmer-w-Combs-SetW0QQitemZ360098243744QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLHDefaultDomain0?hash=item360098243744&trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

    By MLL

    November 19, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

    Stac J&J guy used baby products and these are his words because it’s the first thing that touched my skin other than my mama

    By Raqi

    November 19, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

    Did somebody say Macy’s???

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

    Leggs You have engrave that thing in my head woman!!!

    Raqi Macy’s One Day Sale, is the bomb! i wanna go back so bad

    By mytwocents

    November 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

    It’s so nice how many gentleman noticeably put thought into his grooming, whether dressed for work or for play. It should come across that you look that way on purpose. Not exactly like the mannequin, either, add your own flair and rock it ya own kinda way. I admittedly tend to associate how he brings it all together with maturity level too. And neat cuts are nice but I don’t know about how they’re spraying the shoe polish n stuff in now to make the edging real even. Anybody else noticing this trend? Maybe it’s too much for me cuz it looks set in stone, not touchable.

    As for products, I luv finding new moisturizing ones since having sensitive & dry skin takes extra and can understand a few of those but don’t wanna bump into him at Ulta or Sephora. Yeah, it’s probably best if he doesn’t know what those places are. Nothing wrong with a man’s hard working callused hands, tho. And I’ll take some subtle fragrance please. Mmmm Issey Miyake…

    By kimmie

    November 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

    Sister Cee - Yes, the Macy’s sale is the bomb! They start putting the sale signs up the nite before and last nite I got a sweater & jeans that were originally about $50 a piece for $11 & $12! I could not believe I walked out of there spending less than $25!

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

    Issey Miyake…

    …nice scent…

    By MELO

    November 19, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

    Every man should use some baby powder, it prevents chaffing if u say so,im good tho.

    What is the consensus on a Pedicure? to answer ur question in general, i think most men will discredit certain things until they reach a certain tax bracket,then they realize pple in that bracket do those things they never fathomed doing. So i wld say to u, do whats comfrtable to you. If i had more money to spend, i think i wld do that:pedis,manis,massage evry week etc.I just dont have the flow to keep up with all that.

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

    Kimmie i spent $27. Lol, we’re sisters!!!

    By MLL

    November 19, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

    ohh macy’s one day sale-isn’t that today?

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

    mytwo since i get to peep the baber shops when i take my son. I’ve notice the black hair paint on the line up too. hmmmm. I think it’s called Steve Harvey, at one shop i noticed. My son is trying to get waves…bless his heart. He has his mothers hair, i’m not sure it’ll wave up like his dad’s.

    By C tha 1

    November 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

    Staceye it seems alot of dudes are endorsing Andis clippers, and for good reason. Yes you can find them in a small size to shave your bikini line, just go to a Salley’s Beauty Supply shop. They have all kinds of sizes.

    By Mo (aka Moeisha)

    November 19, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

    Morning All!

    Okay please nobody mention a sale yet, I am trying to Christmas shop for the lil one first and I still have mom’s b-day as well! Mo now sighing

    On topic: love a well groomed man, my dad was always well groomed. Now I luv a good smelling man, nothing to heavy but a nice clean smell always works. Now I always tell Lil Mo that he smells good so hopefully I am creating a clean lil monster. However I dont want a man that is over the top. What most of you have described so far is doable. I am so glad most of you mentioned lotion cause its a HORRIBLE sight to see an ashy man (asy hands, etc)!!! ARGH!

    By Sassette aka Kym

    November 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

    Cee I like Shi by Alfred Sung…took but really Bath and Body works Cotton or Linen are the scents I really like.

    Kimmie I have to hit Macy’s up but I want kitchen stuff. I need(yeah I said need) a new set of pots and pans and I want a wok.

    By MLL

    November 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

    melo I agree with you on your second paragraph….money have a way of making you do things you never thought about doing….I guess that’s where man purse come in for toting all that money around.

    By MELO

    November 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

    I get the problem you say you had with razors. And that’s not cool most ladies with bumps will get that solved easily when a man gets down on them and licks that area softly.U reaping the dwnside of ur unwise dating decisons Mambalol

    By AmazonRed

    November 19, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

    MLL, thanks for sharing your story. It’s amazing the personal testimonies we all share.

    As for your question, I think his azz is GAY, but if he is he’s still dating women.

    I don’t mind if a guy gets pedicures, but I rarely get em, so what’s good? LOL. Beau has nice feet, but I do want to take a buffer to those toenails! LOL

    And for some reason, I still love the smell of Curve on a man. Cheap I know, but I love the scent. I don’t wear perfume cuz I have allergies. But I do like smelling like soap!

    By The Truth

    November 19, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

    Melo good point. It’s all based on your income. Unless you’re a high paid construction worker the other folks in your circle are going to be groomed and you’d hate to be the one in there with a beard looking like Bin Laden.

    I’ve gone with gf’s to get a mani/pedi and they enjoy having you along. Btw, I preferred the clear coat to the buffed finish. Just made doing dishes harder. LOL

    In sales you want as few objections as possible and someone not liking your grooming habits could be a big objection.

    Cee I hope you’r not getting the gift I planned on getting you. LOL

    By Angie

    November 19, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

    i’m not comfortable with a man checking himself out every time he walks past a mirror … that screams gay to me.

    and not comfortable with a man who keeps his house cleaner than mine. J would get upset when i left dishes in my sink. give me a break!

    waving at ev1.

    By MLL

    November 19, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

    Oh my goodness I love the smell of grey flannel…..so fresh so clean

    By mytwocents

    November 19, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

    MLL That’s quite a life you’re living, girl, and I hope you can enjoy some more of what you’re searching for. Thanks for sharing that perspective cuz I was thinking I could not have come outta school and into that role without an emptiness but it sounds like you did stuff to keep feeling relevant and occupied, while maintaining your household which really matters. You were one of those chicks who can take a midday belly dance class so I do see the benefits! Wondering if there are married men now who’d prefer their wife stay at home but she’s bucking against it and that’s making him feel like she lacks confidence in his ability to take care of their family. Or vice versa women who’d prefer to stay home and hubby is thinking it’d be selfish with our economy and it’ll end up being a detriment to their family.

    Speaking of Housewives, juicy tidbits can be found on Yahoo, including clips from the reunion, a video of Lisa & Ed’s interview. Lisa ain’t low key- she secretly dislikes DeShawn apparently and Kim has a restraining order against her. I can’t believe these ppl are real, not characters.

    By AmazonRed

    November 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

    kimmie, I only watched parts of it last night. I was at Beau’s so that’s the best I could do. I DVR’d it and will watch it tonite. I already knew Big Poppa dumped Kim…all the housewives are attacking each other all over the internet and through Essence.com. Kim is trying to make it seem like she needed space to “find herself.” Please. I wasn’t shocked to find out he was married either! Kim was like “it’s like Sharee’s situation, a divorce that’s dragging out.” Whatevs!

    I was suprised that it was only a 7-mo relationship… I wonder how she got her money before then?!

    By MLL

    November 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

    Thanks Ared It’s been a mountian to climb and I’ve learned alot about myself and others thru the ordeal. Life is great now…always new possibilities…..

    By Sassette aka Kym

    November 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

    MLL No pain..no gain baby. No pain no gain. We live and learn in the hopes to pass that on to someone else who is in that situation now.

    I only have 5 hours and 30 mins until my vacation starts.!!! I can’t wait. A few days cleaning the house and then off to Universal Studios.

    By Angie

    November 19, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

    MLL you are where i see myself in years to come. thanks gurl!

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

    Sassette I have a Wok that i bought from Macy’s i’ve never used it. I won’t give it away becuase i have a killer dish that i wanna make i just hadn’t made it to buy all the ingredients…some spices i need are Thai, and so it’s just been sitting there next to my fondue kit <——that’s gonna be used sometime soon…

    Truth Naw, i’m waiting on you to get me that Oster 16 Speed/combo. Somethings i just don’t like to by for myself.

    Mo You know i’m not suppose to be buying anything extra = (Pres. Inaugural ‘09). But i just needed these items…it wont hurt. I’ve gotten the boy’s Microscope, Rubik’s Cube, and SI for Kids supscription that i let expire.

    Kym I’m like you i like the home smelling good. (Linen WallFlowers are nice). I have those oil burners on when i’m at home…jasmine oil and clean linen, mixed, is very nice. I love scented candles too…

    By MELO

    November 19, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

    J would get upset when i left dishes in my sink Sorry Angie but thats one nastiness in the kitchen i cannot stand..nasty dishes! I do not normally do dishes at my home coz i have 3 ladies that do that(my wife and 2 daughters) but whenever im home alone and they have say,gone to church or smewhere and left, with breakfast dishes in the kitchen, i make sure i clean them out before they come.And they do appreciate when they come back,thanks daddy! If ur kitchen is unkempt,who knows what lurks in the bedroom? When i was single, i never wld phuck a wman with a dirty kitchen,that was beneath my dyckk!

    By Angie

    November 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

    kunta all my dishes are pre-washed hun!

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

    I always tell Lil Mo that he smells good so hopefully I am creating a clean lil monster.

    Mo it works! My dude got cologne last Father’s Day from me, and that bottle of cologne is still half full. He loves it and makes it a point to use it after brushing his teeth. Where as, i like cologne on my clothes and not my skin….

    By mytwocents

    November 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

    Okay, did melo just say that —— is the antidote for ……..? Please, somebody, cut his power supply!@$%!

    FYI it is better to moisturize from the inside out anyway, but especially when you have troubled skin. Otherwise you just get a nice top layer for awhile. Water vs. soda & juice alone helps a ton. And Ivory is evil for most w/ dry skin, we should use moisturizers, not perfumed soaps and your skin will actually be dewy and fresh looking.

    By MLL

    November 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

    AMEN Kym I hope my testimony would help somone who is going thru the same thing or something similar cos weeping may endure for a night but joy cometh in the morning…so man days I stood on those words.

    By AmazonRed

    November 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

    MOMania is good today. It’s about when your kid decides they want to live with their other parent.

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

    Melo if i tell one more occupant with me that if they keep the kitchen and bathroom clean the stresses of the other rooms is not so bad.

    Right now my bedroom closet is unkempt. Yup, the Queens chambers, and sometimes i go in there and pull out all shoes looking for 1 pair of boots that were packed way in the back of the summer side of shoes.

    By Sassette aka Kym

    November 19, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

    Cee My Xmas shopping is limited this year. I decided two years ago I only buy for Children..grown azz people who can do for themselves need to. So the boy is getting this trip, a few DS games, and maybe a chemistry set(that is debateable right now). My nieces and nephew will get something and my friend’s son.

    By MELO

    November 19, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

    Im sure u woke up all this morning and heard the news that Ayman al-Zawahri called Barrack a house negroe.Im sure uall pumped up to sign up for military service in Afghanstan after January 20,so u can wipe away that mess once and for all…lol.Whats ur take Truth? Lets get some Obama-patriotism going,like the repugs do.

    By Dan

    November 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

    @Melo/Truth

    The money is not the issue, it may be a cultural issue. But I’m coming around to it, if only to learn some interesting curse words in another lanuguage.

    By Cemeeli

    November 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

    Kym Older kids adore magazine subscriptions. When they are getting their own mags in the mail it’s more reading for entertainment. We had SI for kids, and National Geopgraphic <—-that which i love! And he gets a book store gift card every year, and maybe a Chic-fil-la giftcard, since it’s one of the school’s sponsors…But all the important gifts, like that Microscope kit are already in my chamber.

    By Mo (aka Moeisha)

    November 19, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

    Cemeeli Well my folks in true family fashion have rented a 15 passenger van to take to the inaugaration and Auntie & cousin have agreed to house folks!! LOL! Now as for Lil Mo’s Christmas, I know WHAT Im getting I just need to get it. Speaking of which….Truth we bought some marshmallows and hot cocoa so you could join us! :0)

    By Dan

    November 19, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

    al-Zawahri comments are an attempt by al-Quieda to frame the debate.

    Think about it, the “great Satan” has elected a Black man named Barack Obama. While the numbers can’t be quantified, there are more than a few recruits that are getting second thoughts about their “missions”.

    That said, I believe it was more politic than anything. Kinda of a “if he were really Black, he’d be with us”.

    By SHELBY SHEA

    November 19, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

    Magazine subscription for children is one of the best. My daughter went from hating to read to loving to read. It started with the magazines. Now we take a trip to the bookstore every Saturday for a new book.

    By Angie

    November 19, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

    cos weeping may endure for a night but joy cometh in the morning i lived this everyday for a long while.

    whatever happened to if you can’t say something nice, then don’t say anything at all?

    By Leggs

    November 19, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

    You guys are right about the magazine subscriptions for children. Better yet, get a Borders gift card. A lot of children love going to Borders. Also, can even give early Christmas gifts by