Misadventures in Atlanta

By Kym

October 27, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

What role, if any, has it played in your dating game this year?

None..

Would you chat about politics with a new lover?

Nope. Well take that back..how new? I mean just met new, or dated awhile new? Just met no. Been dating awhile sure. But I have to observe the conversation…if we don’t agree, can we agree to disagree and keep it moving or will this cause one of those conversations that will be brought back up everytime..Congress goes into session?

And could you be with someone with opposing political views, or as I found out, someone who simply doesn’t care?

Yep, I could. This election has pushed me(willing) to become a independant. As for someone who doesn’t care. Sheeple(Sheep+people=sheeple) date and marry all the time, they have no clue about the election or the policies or even what the prez or congress does so while there are many who are following the election this year. They couldn’t tell you who they voted for for state rep, state senator, mayor, or superior court judge.

By ImAPeach404

October 27, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Mornin’ all.

Funny this should be the topic - I met a guy recently who said “I sure hope Obama wins because if that other guy… uh,what’s his name… uh… Jim McCain? If he get’s in office, we’re all in trouble”

Seriously? JIM McCain? I was so totally turned off.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Happy Monday everyone. I want my weekend back. It’s cold outside and I want to cuddle.

I’m wondering how engaged people are in this year’s election and if it has impacted your relationships. What role, if any, has it played in your dating game this year?

It’s had an extreme impact. It’s brought us much closer. We’ve been having more deep and substantial conversations than we’ve ever had. Each day we are home (usually his place cuz he has HDTV as he loves to remind me) we are tuned into news networks yelling at the screen and discussing issues.

I’ve found that the election news doesn’t always bring out the best of me either. The two times he’s irratated me the most when he’s joked around about the election. The first was when he called California (my home state) a “red state” and then called me a closet Republican. He was joking but wouldn’t let up. That was the first time I actually hung up the phone on him.

But all in all, it’s been a great experience and one that I’ve been glad I’ve shared with him. We keep track of our donating to the campaign and pick up election merchandise for each other as gifts.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

By the way Blanca, sorry it didn’t work out with Steve.

By MLL

October 27, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Good chilly morning, If I was dating a Jehovah’s Witness I wouldn’t have any concerns about politics, holiday’s or birthdays, but I’m not, and Newbie has his say about politics and religion and we leave it at that, his knowledge or choice of candidates is not a rule all or deal breaker for me and I’m glad mine isn’t for him either.

By Blow Me.....a.k.a. I like my popcorn wit HOT SAUCE

October 27, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All

Wow are you serious Ared…you hung up on buddy because he was joking with you. Damn that’s a bit up tight.

He was joking but wouldn’t let up. That was the first time I actually hung up the phone on him

That was a real MATURE way to deal with it !! lol!

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By Blow Me.....a.k.a. I like my popcorn wit HOT SAUCE

October 27, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All

Wow are you serious Ared…you hung up on buddy because he was joking with you. Damn that’s a bit up tight.

He was joking but wouldn’t let up. That was the first time I actually hung up the phone on him

That was a real MATURE way to deal with it !! lol!

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By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Wow are you serious Ared

Yup.

By Chink

October 27, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Morning!

Wow Blanca it seems you always are dating!

I have had some serious debates with McCain supporters ( I am 4Obam -I do have conservative views some probably would call me an Independent) and we came out with serious respect for each other…I think either way politics should never be emotional. We should be able to support who we want to without adverse effects. But to have no thought on it is a no no…

By the way I have cable Now! I have the Recorder so I can record shows too…what fun!

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Even though she isn’t a new girlfriend, politics has shown how we have changed through the years. So, I would say yes.

We both see how we have started to become more conservative. We’ve gone down the whole ballot (AJC has a build-a-ballot function on it) and looked up the candidates and their stances. We’ve found that we are pretty conservative on electing Judges. But tend to me more moderate on everything else.

We want Judges that rule on the law as it is created by the legislature. We don’t want Judges who are liberal. Otherwise, we would end up like Callifornia with some crazy precedents

By Kym

October 27, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Chink You will fall in love with the DVR..unless you forget to set something you really want to watch. RetroTV use to show old Perry Mason episodes…I still have my two favorites on my DVR.

By baROCK your vote!

October 27, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

morning bloggers!

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Otherwise, we would end up like Callifornia with some crazy precedents

Whaat?! What you just say about CA, PG?!

hangs up phone LOL

Dems certainly love CA when it’s time for some electoral votes… :-/

By Chink

October 27, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Kym

I tried to go through the whole week on my favorite channels and record shows …but I did come across a little problem seems like I am missing 2-3 minutes into the show ..could my timer be off?

By baROCK your vote!

October 27, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

mood today very giddy!

while dating, if our conversations get heated over political issues, then yes it would effect the way i feel about what’s going on between us.

if we do break-up, i really hope we find a better excuse to part ways.

By Blanca

October 27, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Chink Wow Blanca it seems you always are dating! I am! That’s why they wanted me to join this blog… but really, what happened to that manbattical I was trying to take? ;)

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

Good morning everyone. Politics messing up a relationship. I truly wouldn’t know (LOL).

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

AR

Whaat?! What you just say about CA, PG?!

LOL..law school professor’s bash CA on a regular. The judge’s legislate from the bench and leads to some crazy common law. Limits the number of bright line rules

You would hate law school. My profs slam CA quite a bit. Two of them went to UCLA. One of those went to Pepperdine for law school.

On another note

Mrs. PG and I were kinda shocked to see that the Anchorage newspaper endorsed Obama and in the process questioned McCain’s Judgment for picking their governor in the first place. It was kinda harsh.

On a super sad note

Chicago police has found the body of young male child. The word is that it may be Julian King (J-Huds) nephew. Unfortunately, I felt that it would come to this. He saw the murders and kids tell everything. (As my friends with kids tell me)

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

but really, what happened to that manbattical I was trying to take? ;)

Blanca, I wondered that too. Hey, sometimes you gotta come off the bench. LOL

By Chink

October 27, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Now that I think about it. My brazilian friend told me her son and his girlfriend broke up because the girls family were serious Bush supporters and he just couldnt stand Bush…and they broke up (they are college kids).

By Kym

October 27, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Chink I had that problem too. It could be the timer but if it is Comcast then they set the time. You can change it but don’t ask me how cause my son had to teach me how to work the remote.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

PG, if I loved CA that much, I’d still be living there. But the south has things way more backwards that CA does. Of course, most of them don’t know it cuz they never leave.

You and the wifey are tuned into the samethings Beau and I were this weekend. I smirked at the Anchorage story and have really been rocked by the Hudson family tradegy.

By baROCK your vote!

October 27, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

poppabear i get to the point now where i don’t say what i feel has happened. i knew they were going to find his body. i just hope he didn’t suffer. :-(

By Kym

October 27, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

PoppaG All profs do that then. All of our examples of what is not right with the legal system come from Cali or Florida. And well Louisana is the true “mavarick” of the U.S. legal world.

By baROCK your vote!

October 27, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

But the south has things way more backwards that CA does. duh.

Cali does things that feel right instead of doing the right thing.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Cali does things that feel right instead of doing the right thing.

I disagree.

By Kym

October 27, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

That is sad about Jennifer Hudson’s family. Just goes to show us no one is exempt from evil intentions at all. I thought they had her brother in law in custody?

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

AR

But the south has things way more backwards that CA does.

To some extent, I agree. But backwards is all relative. Jim Crow law weren’t that long ago. We try to act like they were, but my dad and mom went to segregated elementary schools. Neither of them are 60 yet.

I just want my judges to rule based on the law in the books. Don’t go creating new law.

Court’s rulings become law through precedent. It is called Stare Decisis. All other cases should be based on rules from the earlier cases. CA has created rules that are all over the place. There aren’t many trends other than they zig zag all over.

Another negative for CA is Nancy Pelosi. Extreme is still extreme whether it is conservative or liberal.

By The Truth

October 27, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Morning folks.

Yesterday my book club met and we discussed politics 90% of the time and our book wasn’t even mentioned. It’s amazing that Obama has done for politics what Tiger did for golf, made it cool for mainstream america. I’ve done more research on politics and government over the last few months than I ever have.

While this isn’t official, my research leads me to believe that republican or democrat, we’re fugged. LOL

I hope folks are beginning to open their eyes to whats going on in this country.

Btw, due to economic reasons our book club has ceased activities until the beginning of next year or later. A few members are unemployed and have been for some time.

I have noticed something and need further input. The vast majority of unemployed people I know are single black females. Has anyone else noticed that? Feel free to discuss openly. LOL

KYM SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Put down whatever book you’re reading immediately and get “The Creature From Jekyll Island” by Edward Griffith. Simply the most amazing book on our banking system and how we are now more than ever under the control of the worlds rich.

Poppa when the FBI was called in I figured it was a kidnapping (federal crime under the Lindberg Act) case and probably someone was trying to blackmail her. 2 bit crooks have no idea what kind of mess they’re gettng into. SMH

It’s cold and I need nipple therapy.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

I just want my judges to rule based on the law in the books. Don’t go creating new law.

Really PG, so Genarlow Wilson got what he deserved huh?

We’ve gotta remember what kind of folks created the “laws on the books.”

By abc

October 27, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Lots of people don’t like to discuss politics. Like religion, it’s a topic about which many become emotionally convicted, and once that emotional conviction is in place, you can forget about rationale in any discussion or debate. All you get are emotional arguments. (AR’s reaction to attempts at humor, as an example, is pretty typical and descriptive of this.) I can’t say that I like political discussions and debate, in spite of my rather strong opinions about politics, and especially the current elections, precisely due to things like that. Maybe, just maybe, the guy had opinions that differ from yours, perhaps they’re valid if not even better informed than yours, and he simply didn’t wish to argue about them — instead allowing you to maintain your perspective, in spite of it being at odds with his own? I would certainly be that way. What if that were the case, would it still be a deal breaker for you?

People who react emotionally to political or religious discourse are a huge turnoff for me. Maybe for this guy too — that would represent a real incompatibility, much more so than simply having no problem with avoiding the discourse in the first place.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

I have noticed something and need further input. The vast majority of unemployed people I know are single black females. Has anyone else noticed that?

Morning Truth. I don’t have any non-black friends, other than work friends, so they are all employed. LOL

As for my black friends, I only know two who are out of work, one female one male. Both have been out of work for some time. The female has been laid off twice in the last few years.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

All you get are emotional arguments. (AR’s reaction to attempts at humor, as an example, is pretty typical and descriptive of this.)

Interesting abc. Cuz if someone keeps calling you something you are not, instead of having a pointless emotional argument about it, I figure it’s more rational to simply end the conversation.

To each his own I guess.

I bet you’re voting for Cynthia McKinney for President, huh? ;-)

By Kym

October 27, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

PoppaG You wouldnt happen to have a alter ego on another blog law discussion blog site would you?

Your last comment reminded me of something someone posted on the discussion board.

Another negative for CA is Nancy Pelosi. Extreme is still extreme whether it is conservative or liberal.—TITCR—This is the credited response.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Kym

The funny thing is that my prof very rarely even acknowledge Louisiana and its Napoleanic Code….lol

The only time that we really mention Louisiana is went we talk about prisons. Angola comes up every time!

Truth

Poppa when the FBI was called in I figured it was a kidnapping (federal crime under the Lindberg Act) case and probably someone was trying to blackmail her. 2 bit crooks have no idea what kind of mess they’re gettng into. SMH

I found out about the murders Friday while we were blogging. I didn’t post it because I didn’t see it confirmed on the “net” yet. I have friends in Chicago, and I guess it was reported there first. I don’t read the Chicago papers.

However, I felt from the beginning that the boy saw what happened. I think that the murderer didn’t want to kill the child or he/she would have done it there. However, they got into cover-up mode and had to get rid of witnesses.

By Binford2K8

October 27, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

The Howard Stern Show tests the role of the issues in the decisions of some Harlem voters…

http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hssalinHarlem100108.mp3

From all accounts, this is an actual, real skit here. I’m not surprised that people don’t do research! I’ve actually done the same thing to my Mom!

With politics AND religion, I want to engage in discussion and/or debate with someone who has done their research and knows at least the fundamental principals of what they are discussing.

But someone who doesn’t really care would be tough as we’re all affected by who is in office.

By Chink

October 27, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Truth

Nobody I know is unemployed due to the current economy. And I have black and non black friends….so maybe that statistic only applies to your book club. By the way I fail to see the humor in that.

By Binford2K8

October 27, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

The Howard Stern Show tests the role of the issues in the decisions of some Harlem voters…

http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hssalinHarlem100108.mp3

From all accounts, this is an actual, real skit here. I’m not surprised that people don’t do research! I’ve actually done the same thing to my Mom!

With politics AND religion, I want to engage in discussion and/or debate with someone who has done their research and knows at least the fundamental principals of what they are discussing.

But someone who doesn’t really care would be tough as we’re all affected by who is in office.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Kym

You wouldnt happen to have a alter ego on another blog law discussion blog site would you?

No….the only other blogs in which I participate are some blogs that me and my friends thorughout the world created through Blogger to keep in touch. I use Skype more than that.

By Kym

October 27, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Truth I have a test tonight so the only thing I can read these days are intentional torts. But I will add it to the list.

PoppaG My professor for Law and Ethics also uses the OJ Simpson case for all of our tort examples.

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

It’s cold and I need nipple therapy. My first laugh for the morning. Truth, I too find myself paying more and more attention to politics than I have in the past. The mere fact that my child watched all the debates w/me is proof that this race is like no other!

By baROCK your vote!

October 27, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

even though i don’t participate in the law discussions on this blog because it feels too much like homework i do enough of that everyday, i enjoy seeing four bloggers so passionate about their field. :-)

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

AR

*Really PG, so Genarlow Wilson got what he deserved huh? *

No…but they also changed the law prior to his release.

That is what the court is supposed to do IMO.

Leave it to the Legislative branch to change it.

If you leave it to Judges, the law will be so erratic that it would be difficult to convict anyone of anything. It would be too subjective in how they read jury charges or how they rule in bench trials. There would be no concrete, or what we call “bright line rule” for a jury to compare the fact to. Most people on a jury aren’t lawyers. They need to know the rule that they are applying. (That is where Jury charges come into play. )

Creating laws should be for the legislative branch.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Kym

*PoppaG My professor for Law and Ethics also uses the OJ Simpson case for all of our tort examples. *

Don’t start on that case. We spent a week on the OJ case in Criminal law. That was the most contentious week that we had. The prof had to in between some students when it became a heated discussion. I thought that they were gonna come to blows.

The only opinion that I had on the case was the followng: LAPD tried to frame a guilty man, and messed up. For example, The CSI didn’t wear the slips that go over the shoes and tracked blood everywhere. That is contaminated evidence. A good lawyer (which is what OJ could afford) was able to point that kinda of stuff out.

It is an emotional case for people. Other than that week, we have stayed away from the OJ case. I guess I will have to deal with it when I take the required evidence case.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

PG, I agree with you. Just wanted to know how you felt on that particular case.

And I think that is part of the reason CA is so “zig zag” with it. You encounter a law that you know shouldn’t apply in 2008, so you set your own precident. Not saying it’s right, or that I even agree but I understant. Genarlow would have had a much different fate in CA, of course, that law isn’t even on the books, but if it were, I think he would have gotten justice much sooner.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

I meant “”require evidence course”

Back to politics

I am really tired of both Saxby Chambliss and Jim Martin for the Senate seat. Their ads run non-stop. I would consider Buckley but that would just prolong their ads because Saxby and Jim would be in a run-off if one of them doesn’t take 50% of the vote.

Obama has his 30 minute “commerical” Wednesday, which will delay the 6th game of the World Series by 8 minutes.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

AR

I don’t think that the law itself was bad. I understand why the law was on the books. They were trying to protect kids.

However, I think that the original law (the one that Genarlow was convicted under) was poorly crafted and left loopholes for the DA.

DA are elected. If people don’t think that voting for DAs weren’t important they need to look at that case.

By Michelle

October 27, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Hello everyone..hope you all had a nice weekend..Let’s all keep Jennifer Hudson & Family in our prayers

GET OUT AND VOTE “OBAMA”

Have a great day/week!

By baROCK your vote!

October 27, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

also, he agreed to my above requests prior to jr. coming home from summer vacation with him.

By Keep it real! From Ohio

October 27, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Due to this historical presidential race my wife has become truly engaged in politics!

We have participated with phones and canvassing areas for the Obama campaign. This brings a different conversation to the table everyday.

As truth stated we are in trouble regardless of who wins!

So my fellow bloggers do not expect help make sure you go out and do for family, self and community!

By abc

October 27, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

I’m voting for Martin specifically due to Chambliss’s hatchet job on Max Cleland some years ago. That was some of the most despicable campaigning I’ve ever seen. So, more of a vote against Chambliss than for Martin.

Negative campaigning carries a lot of weight with me, I’ll vote against a negative campaign, even in spite of the issues at hand.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

DA are elected. If people don’t think that voting for DAs weren’t important they need to look at that case.

LOL. Amen, PG.

By baROCK your vote!

October 27, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

nevermind, my first post didn’t go thru.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Negative campaigning carries a lot of weight with me, I’ll vote against a negative campaign, even in spite of the issues at hand.

abc, that sounds like an emotional reaction to me!

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

abc

I don’t like Saxby period. He can’t give a straight answer. I’ve seen a debate. He can’t say a sentence without blaming the Democrats.

What are you doing, Saxby? He is a finger pointer. Doesn’t take responsibilty.

Yeah, he did Cleland wrong as well. He has connections to Karl Rove and it shows.

By RELL - what it dew Ared

October 27, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

thought for the day

“A woman is much better persuaded that she is loved by what she guesses than by what she is told” - Ninon de l’Enclos, the seventeenth-century courtesan and strategist of seduction

By Kym

October 27, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Abc guess I am doing the opposite..I am not a fan of Saxby(well except fair tax) but Martin did a horrific job at his last government position so why should I vote for him to get another chance to screw up? Granted not sure I would have voted for Vernon either.

PoppaG Very true what you said about DA’s yet on the ballot many run for term after term unopposed. Like the Fulton DA.Paul Howard I will have to check my ballot again but I am pretty sure he is running unopposed yet again.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Every time I see or here Saxby’s name I want a Zalad from Zaxby’s. LOL

Didn’t help with all the ads this past weekend.

By Satoria Lynn

October 27, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

RELL - what it dew Ared

You will never get the coochie begging for it! <<< Simpin’ at its finest. SMDH.

By RELL - what it dew Ared

October 27, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

@satoria….lol, here we go again….ok love whatever you say

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

that Zaxby’s House Salad - Fried with Ranch dressing…is almost a religious experience…lol…

but…have to break it up into two meals…can only eat half at a time…with the dressing they are 700+ calories…

and that is killer on my get super fine program…lol…

By Kym

October 27, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

All ads should be banned during football games. Nov 4th can’t get here fast enough.

By Chink

October 27, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

I love the House salad with hot wings sauce.. too bad there is no zabys downtown atl… :(

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

coach was a political science major…there is nothing sexier than when he gets all passionate about politics…LOVES IT!!!

By Sweet Mango

October 27, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

I am ok with discussing politics with my man. He and I are on the same page politically so it’s no big deal. However, I refuse to discuss politics at work with co-workers whom I know I don’t agree with. Case-in-point: I “overheard” a conversation between two male co-workers. One black and the other white. The white co-worker was lashing out talking about Obama is a terrorist and is incapable of running the white house. He went on to say the he felt confident in Palin and that she would do a “stellar” job as VP. At that point I smiled b/c he confirmed why I thought he was an absolute idiot all these years.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

RELL - what it dew Ared

LMAO, I didn’t even notice that til you said something Satoria Lynn.

Hiya Rell.

By baROCK the vote!

October 27, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

i would die for anything from Zaxby’s right now! i have told so many ppl about that spot since i’ve been home.

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

with the dressing they are 700+ calories…

Hmm…I might have to start eating more of these salads. I weighed in at 135 this past week, meaning I gained 5 pounds! 10 more and I might finally get my BMI into the 20s, finally. LOL

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

The white co-worker was lashing out talking about Obama is a terrorist and is incapable of running the white house. He went on to say the he felt confident in Palin and that she would do a “stellar” job as VP.

Wow.

By The Truth

October 27, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Chink the lol referred to the line “Feel free to discuss openly” which was from Saturday Night Live years ago. Of course unemployment isn’t funny. Does this cold weather have you a little amped?

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

LOL. The blog is featured on the home page of AJC.com with the heading “Follow dating blogger breakup”

The AJC has jokes, Blanca. They are trying to capitalize on your “pain.” LOL

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Anybody do anything naughty but fun which weekend (no I’m not talking about the horizontal mambo)?

By Chink

October 27, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Truth

Oops sorry! No I am dressed for the weather so I don’t feel cold but I do miss summer…

By the way I love political satire I am a big fan of Colbert Report and SNL has been pretty good on this election coverage.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

What’s up folks!

I know, we all know, there is sooo much going on! I receive all the ‘Breaking News’ stories on my phone/alert. and i recieved several about the Hudson family since Friday, and everytime i read the message it rehashes vividly, how we felt when we got the phone calls about the tragedies in my family recently. I know that family is “going through” right now!!! Lord, bless them. It’s sooo sad….and regretfully, they did not find the 7year old alive. This world is manifesting its evil everywhere!

Politics? Yea, watch it, read it, blog it, family forum it…so on, and so on…and no, it would not hinder/cause a riff in my relationship. Would i discuss it with my date? Yes. Since i have been known to strike up a conversation with total strangers about politics and/or religion (which is informative) i don’t have a emotional breakdowns if someone disagrees with my POV.

Is is b/c it’s Monday or did everyone pack up their laptops/portals and move to that Usher Board Cafe’!?!? was going on?

By abc

October 27, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

No,AR, I’m not emotional about it. But, I consider negative campaigning, especially to the extent that Saxby assailed Cleland’s war record (that was way over the top) to be a reflection of the campaigner’s ethics. Saxby Chambliss’s ethics are more than questionable.

So are McCain’s. So are Palin’s. So is McCain’s ability to remember his own name. So is Palin’s ability to not be a vindictive psycho beeyotch. Oh, I guess some of those things could be construed as emotional convictions too! Ha.

I could still write in Spongebob Squarepants, but then, Powell and Buffett have endorsed Obama, and that carries a lot of weight with me.

By RELL - what it dew Ared

October 27, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

why are black folks still trying to talk to there white co-workers that support mccain…..the coldest winter is coming…..you just dont know it yet….

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

If he or she is not an Obama supporter,this year is historical,go ahead and sacrifice him/her. Its not really about what Obama will do when he gets in,but the doors he has opened for black folks going forward.

melo approves this message!!

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

…and there’s The Zulu King

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

BTW- Gas in South Carolina is now 2.19 and some areas 2.09. i hope they start doing that in Georgia soon!

Ladies and Gentlemen check in!

…chime in. I really wanna know if anyone else is in bed at 8-9pm or 10, and be fast asleep in less than 1/2 an hour later? wondering if that is a a special condition, or this weather? I’m really not that tired that time of evening. Is it that gas is going down and I’m having an system cool down, or what? :)

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Kym

PoppaG Very true what you said about DA’s yet on the ballot many run for term after term unopposed. Like the Fulton DA.Paul Howard I will have to check my ballot again but I am pretty sure he is running unopposed yet again.

I think that it is more about money in regard to that. DA is a government position and the pay is subject to tax money. When people cry about taxes, this can lead to less interest in position like this.

Attorneys get school loans and such to pay off. Running a private firm fattens the pockets way more than running the State’s cases. You can control your revenue. DA are subject to the state’s budget.

By abc

October 27, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

I think that African Americans that believe Barack Obama will carry an African American agenda into the White House will be greatly disappointed.

If you intend to vote for Barack Obama on the basis of his race alone, you’re just as misguided as those who will not vote for him based on his race alone.

Which group of nutbags will be most likely to make an assasination attempt upon Obama: racist whites on the basis of not wanting an African American agenda in the White House, or disappointed blacks who consider Barack a race traitor after he demonstrates that he doesn’t have such an agenda?

As tragic as it would be, I figure it could easily happen. I recoil in horror at the thought of Palin gaining the Oval Office through Senator McCain’s demise; I’m not all that fired up at the thought of Biden gaining the office in that way, either.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Cee

I’ve seen gas for $2.05 somewhere. I didn’t need anymore at that time.

There is one place selling it for 1.99 with the purchase of a car wash.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

I think that African Americans that believe Barack Obama will carry an African American agenda into the White House will be greatly disappointed.

I agree.

abc what you’ve stated is true. Barack has more of a open relating to any race of people than Blacks alone.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Hi Kym The Enchantress!

Blue Did i step on your new Jordan’s, bruh?

Where you?

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

I recoil in horror at the thought of Palin gaining the Oval Office through Senator McCain’s demise

I wish all of us did.

Cemeeli, I’m a night owl, so I’ve been having trouble staying up past 11. I literally just hit a wall and will fall asleep in my clothes, lights and tv on and everything. Usually I’m up til midnight or 1 am. I can’t make it that long if I tried anymore.

It’s the season change. They always affect me. I’ll snap out of it in another week or so.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

PoppaG $2.05??? Why is it so cheap? that’s good

By kimmie

October 27, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Afternoon Blog Fam Hope everyone had a great weekend.

I have always been politically-aware. I mailed in my absentee ballots when I was in college. Everyone that was of age to register got registered my sr. year of high school and I’ve been at it every since. Even worked on a few local campaigns, though I know I’m not cut out for politics, I found that out.

My current SO and I are on the same page politically. He’s a little more conservative than me - may as well say independent. He calls his dad a left-wing extremist. I leaned that way a bit myself, but find myself a little more on the independent side the older I get. We’ve been having some great conversations about all the election shenanigans. Watching Real Time w/ Bill Mauhr has become somewhat of a Friday ritual for us. Jon Stewart and SNL have been great too this election.

Yeah, if someone thought radically different than me I know it would affect the relationship for me. Prime example: a friend introduced me to a guy I had heard her talk about that I thought might be nice. She said she really didn’t think we were suited for each other, but you never know. We talked quite a bit on the phone & went on 2 dates. This was summer ‘07. As I got to know him I knew we would definitely not make it. He was very religious and born-again, which I have no issue with until you start getting self-rightous. I consider myself more spiritual than religious and my relationship with Christ is very personal and I am very prayerful. I don’t put people down if they don’t go to church every single Sunday because I don’t. Well, this dude was very much a Bible-thumper after what I gathered were some real player days that he was trying to reform from. He came at me with the “I’m not voting for Obama cause he got sworn into the Senate on the Koran instead of the Bible” stuff. I realized then he was very uninformed. He also would go into these rants about how if a woman got pregnant thru rape she still should not be allowed an abortion. I said what if somebody raped your 12-yr old daughter - he still stuck to his opinion. I am pro-choice and resent a bunch of old men trying to legislate my body. Even though I hate the thought of abortion. We just had too many differences that we both felt strongly about - deal-breaker. 3 months later I met my current SO - the rest is history!

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

THIS took strength…i don’t care what anybody thinks…i admire her for her desperate attempt to save her child…

By Blanca

October 27, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

AmazonRed The AJC has jokes, Blanca. They are trying to capitalize on your “pain.” LOL Oh Lawd. This may turn into a mini-series…oh wait, with Part 2 coming tomorrow, looks like it already is!

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Cee

PoppaG $2.05??? Why is it so cheap?

It was a quicktrip maybe they got a better deal on the gas than the BP station owners down the street.

I got mine for 2.17.

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

abc…i, for one, would be disappointed if President Obama had an African American agenda…

my concern is the good of the people…period…

By Jamoca

October 27, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Cee It was me (holding my hand up) …I thank I stepped on him converse shoelaces… I sowwwy…

Oh yeah, ummm… that ark ready for us yet?…and make sho’ it’s made with iron to go with my iron man suit… cuz these “signs of the times say”: er’body finna die, chile!

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

I got mine for 2.17.

Where PoppaG? I got gas for 2.39 yesturday.

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

I definitely agree Cemeel, especially since her own mother placed her there. She knew what hardships to expect but was most appreciative that there was a facility to help turn herself around and hopefully her son as well. That had to be a hard thing for her to do. She was determined to help her son!

By kimmie

October 27, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

*I think that African Americans that believe Barack Obama will carry an African American agenda into the White House will be greatly disappointed.

If you intend to vote for Barack Obama on the basis of his race alone, you’re just as misguided as those who will not vote for him based on his race alone.*

I would hope by now that most folks get this by now. I’ve heard some AA-black power extremist-types rant on some of the radio shows and blogs about how he does not have enough of an AA agenda for them and thus will not be voting for him. These are the same nuts that ask the stupid question “Is he Black enough?”. Barack won the those first few primaries from initially a mostly non-AA vote. A lot of AA’s were still under the Clinton spell and were afraid they would split the vote and decrease the chances of a Dem winning. I mean really, how many AA’s do you know in Iowa?

What some have still not realized is that Barack will have to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, not the PRESIDENT OF THE AA UNITED STATES! The man is bi-racial too, don’t forget.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, ummm… that ark ready for us yet?…and make sho’ it’s made with iron to go with my iron man suit… cuz these “signs of the times say”: er’body finna die, chile!

Jamoca U r a nut!!! Get the over in that there Ark of yours chic!and stop steppin’ on buttercup’s friend shoelaces we need those for our clothesline.

This was cute;…if President Obama had an African American agenda…

By Kym

October 27, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Sexy I just read that story. I don’t fault her one bit. And since she herself had to go to Boystown she was doing what she thought was best for the child. Especially if his acting out is effecting others. Hopefully he can get the help he needs in Nebraska.

Abc I agree with you on the racial base voting. I told a few people last week..same folks calling Obama the black messiah this year will flip the script come Jan 2010. That Obama aint about s&(&t. I knew the Dumbo looking blahblah..*

We are in a economic downturn(politically correct term) so things are going to get worst before they get better. Those that are voting race are in for a rude awakening.

By the way Syria is calling us terrorist now.

Hi there Cee!

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Hey Kym!…What color is that superfine thread on paper, in those Law School books of yours? hope all is well with ya’

Kimmie Hi Your 2:32 about Obama is an example of distorted mind set. so sad

By The Truth

October 27, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Sexy/Kym wtf did you just say? You think it’s strength when a woman decides to abandon her child but cowardice when a man does. The real strength would have been before she had the little b******* to decide she wasn’t ready for that. Now the spawn is on the taxpayers doorstep again. Listen, you ladies will spin any story to lift up your sista’s in the battle.

If I have kids and leave them so the woman can go on welfare, and therefore improve their lot, can I be a hero too? SMH

Chink apology accepted. LMAO

By For Real

October 27, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

abc I agree with you. The real agenda should be ending the stranglehold that the wealthy 2% has on the country and the world. The only color we should be worried about is GREEN.

SexCool That doesn’t look like strength to me. Looks like she quit on her child. How can he be better off being raised by the State of Nebraska?

By kimmie

October 27, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Hey Cee-Sis! - I agree, very distorted! On one blog I went on, after Barack picked Biden as his running mate, some nuts were like “He couldn’t find anybody black?”!!!!

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

think that African Americans that believe Barack Obama will carry an African American agenda into the White House will be greatly disappointed.

i have to respectfully disagree.I wld hope that, as an afr-american,Obama understands black issues more than Bill Clinton does,the 1st ever black President!So if he goes in there and tries to address some,not all, Afr-american issues,i wldnt be disappointed.Im not expecting him to throw money at every black problem issue but there are issues that he will be more comfortable in tackling and talking about without being labeled by blacks.Thats what im talking about.Issues like parent hood,poverty and crime in inner cites and how to solve those issues.I expect him to look at some of these issues,not in the same way Mccain or Bush wld have looked at them but more in a way an African america should. Remember during Katrina,Barbara Bush uttered, these pple come from poor backgrounds anyway so they should tolerate this,meaning the inhuman conditions in the sueprdome!! Thats an opinion of a whity so removed from black pple and the poverty and their economic aspirations.If u expect Obama to go to the white house with that same mindset,better stay at home and not vote!

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Gas is $2.07 where I am.

By kimmie

October 27, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Obamadingo - That’s another way to look at it, a great way, I might add!

By LorDemi

October 27, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Hello All

Negative campaigning carries a lot of weight with me, I’ll vote against a negative campaign, even in spite of the issues at hand.

Yeah…Mccain/Palin almost had my vote for a minute…Them Bishes just had to hire Karl Rove!!

Back to reading Fox’s News

By Blue_Kolla

October 27, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Cee Did i step on your new Jordan’s, bruh?

Naah slim… Since one of my most important rules of survival is to protect your feet, mine very seldom get stepped on.

BTW, Jordan costs too much. 99% of the time I’m rockin’ Nike Boots or Timbos, so it wouldn’t hurt anyway. ;)

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

On one blog I went on, after Barack picked Biden as his running mate, some nuts were like He couldn’t find anybody black?”!!!!

Kimmie

This is just like simple minded people to do.

By Dan

October 27, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

First allow me to say that hate, HATE American Airlines…they suck.

Secondly, I woman that I date doesn’t have to know much, but she must show interest in learning.

If you don’t know, don’t care to know, don’t act as if you do. Be silent, pretend to listen and ask vague questions.

Tis better to be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.

Side note on the BHO discussion, it is not the fact that his nomination is historic, but it’s about what the possibility allows.

Little black boys are dressing to be the President for Halloween, show and tell, everyday.

That means that this current generation (and ours for the older of us) have their amibitions and drive to look forward to. The goal now is to aim that focus productively and not just in the direction of President - but also CEO, CFO, and owners of their on companies.

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

she gave up on him? wth? she was trying to get him some dayum help… and from the story had tried and tried and tried and tried…

what exactly do you propose that woman do? would it have been better for her to continually be called away from work to deal with his discipline problems causing her to have work attendance problems and possibly eventually losing her job? (because please believe i don’t know how many employers are going to continually be understanding cause you got to leave for the second time this week cause little johnny is down at the school acting an a ss…)

would you rather she have been like that rapper’s baby’s momma whose son killed her and both her daughters and mourned for her and wondered how it could have happened?

and as one whose mother raised some of her kids but did not raise others…this is possibly the best thing that could have happened to that child…

and factor into it that she herself had been sent to Boystown and it ended up being a positive for her…

and i could go on…

i’ma walk away…agree to disagree and keep moving…

By C tha 1

October 27, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

There isn’t any amount of legislation that an Obama Presidency could pass that would benefit the Black Community. In order to fix the problems we face we have to reinvest in ourselves on a very personal level. Specifically, if you know of someone who has potential and they are stuggling (unemployed or underemployed) if you can reach them its time to really be your brother’s keeper. If you live by a community that is under valued due to crime and/or foreclosures its time to get together and police our own and rebuild what has been torn down.

When Obama speaks of change happening from the bottom up he’s not referring to just tax breaks for the poor and middle class…its more about being invested in bringing your community (family) up to a standard where it can actually handle prosperity and not squander it once it is realized.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Blue Naah slim… Since one of my most important rules of survival is to protect your feet, mine very seldom get stepped on.

Good mantra!

Lol…Jordan costs too much. 99% of the time I’m rockin’ Nike Boots or Timbos, so it wouldn’t hurt anyway. if Jordan’s aint $60 a whoop. I’m not buyin’ ‘em either. What’s up?!

By Blue_Kolla

October 27, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Cee buttercup’s friend shoelaces

See…? I’m’a have to come over there and pop you up’side the head with a pillow.

Demi Hello All

Ohhh shyt!!! ^^^ This Mofo is back! dapps

Leggs Gas is $2.07 where I am.

You must live up in Buford… or by the RaceTrack on South Cobb.

By abc

October 27, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

I respectfully refute what you’re saying, melo. Anyone who was not a rich neocon, wholly supportive only of that which benefits big business and the very wealthy (namely, the polar opposite of the Bush family) would have had a realistic and grounded reaction to the aftermath of Katrina. Solutions to inner-city poverty and crime are not race-specific. And, by the way, FEMA is still just as big a mess as it was then — they’d still be incapable of responding effectively to a similar situation.

As soon as he is perceived as having an African American-specific agenda, Obama will cease to be effective. I don’t believe he has one. If he did, he’d lose my vote, ‘course, then I’d have nobody to vote for at all! Ain’t no way I’ll vote for a ticket with Palin on it.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Cee

I think that I was on highway 314 in Fayette or around there. I took backroads to my folks because there was a NASCAR race down there yesterday. I hated that when I was young. We were pretty much captives in our own neighborhoods.

I know the area, but I’ve done it so many times that I do it instinctively. I don’t even think about where I am. I just think turn here and turn there, etc.

I normally take Tara Boulevard to Hampton, but that is a no go on race weekend.

I am sure you know what I mean

Next year, the race is moving to Labor Day Weekend and will be a Saturday Night Race….I guess the Bar-B-Q won’t be down at my folks. :(

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

think i lost a post somewhere…

at any rate…truth…i do remember that when i posted this…i specifically said…i don’t care what anybody thinks…

(looking back at my earlier post…yeah…that was me that said that…)

By The Truth

October 27, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

For Real that remark about the wealthy 2% just flew over everyones head. They actually think it matters who the president is and if he’s going to look out for us. The folks that really matter have been looking out for themselves for hundreds of years. The presidential elections are a diversion from the real problem. Like the line in Disclosure “just solve the problem”. We can’t solve it because it’s right in our face.

By Keep it real! From Ohio

October 27, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Some of the comments you read from AA are amazing?

Senator Obama already has help the AA community he stated to the men to man-up and take responsibility of your family and children. Quit making excuses!

No-one can make you drink water, if you are looking for a hand-out then the Obama adminstration will not help you!

If you want to take advantage of going to college or a tech school which you already can go for free in Georgia then the Obama Adminstration will be for you!

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

I said where “I am”, not “where I live”. I work in Tucker! RIF (LOL).

By Kym

October 27, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Truth The situation of a child acting out to the point no one can help him is not the same as a dude dipping because the condom broke so dont go there..or leaving his family because he is too lazy, or too proud to find a job and work. Welfare is not improving one’s lot. It is suppose to be relief.(1930’s term) A help until you get back on your feet. Not a freaking way of life. This issue is not the same thing. Her son was acting out and frankly if he was not responding to school officals, juvenile officials, or anyone else of authority then frankly I don’t want the little badazz around my kid. Let him go to the heartland where they can work with his behind one on one.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

“if you can reach them its time to really be your brother’s keeper.”

“change happening from the bottom up he’s not referring to just tax breaks for the poor and middle class…its more about being invested in bringing your community (family) up to a standard”

C tha 1 It’s just like education; It starts in your own “backyard”. That’s the beginning of positive change.

By Rocco

October 27, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

To answer your question Blanca, there is nothing like a heated discussion regarding politics or religion to produce an intense sexual experience with the opposite sex. Just try it!

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

I understand what u saying abc.I dnt think he needs to have a specifi aframerica agenda but what im saying is he will be more comfortable to go where others have failed or neglected to adress in the past simply coz some minority issues, being race specific required pple with better voice and clout than a white president who would have been viewd as not qualified in the past.Issues like parenthood and the neglect by black fathers,which Obama has already strted to talk about,by the way.Welfare issues is another,black on black crime etc.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Sexy

I don’t think Obama would have a black agenda in the first place.

The people who was most instrumental in his upbringing wasn’t black. His mom and her parents were/are white people from Kansas.

The father, who was Kenyan, wasn’t around.

He had to make himself up. I never got that whole elitist mess. He had to endure life in a single parent household and even at one point had to eat thanks to food stamps.

McCain on the other hand, got much of what he got from his dad and granddad being military men. It helped him stay in the Naval academy. Others would have been thrown out for some of the stuff that he did. He finished near the bottom of his class because he was rebellious and didn’t apply himself to classes that didn’t interest him. That alone ticks me off, I work my tell off for everything that I get.

By The Truth

October 27, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Sexy that explains it all. From now on I’ll say any old thing but make sure I put out my disclaimer first, then no matter how it comes out I’m covered. It doesn’t matter though. Tomorrow you same ladies will be telling us how a good man stays the course in rough waters, no matter what. I’ll be sure to look at the bottom of the page for the disclaimer in tiny type.

By Dan

October 27, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

@C tha 1

Shouldn’t that have been the goal all along? Bottom up change, that is

Why does it take an Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or Barack Obama to get people motivated to do something?

Can’t speak for anyone else, but I been on my grind for the young’ens since I was 18.

But hey, as long as it’s happening, let happen. But we’ll see how long it lasts too..

By Kym

October 27, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

*Little black boys are dressing to be the President for Halloween, show and tell, everyday.

That means that this current generation (and ours for the older of us) have their amibitions and drive to look forward to. The goal now is to aim that focus productively and not just in the direction of President - but also CEO, CFO, and owners of their on companies.*

This should not be laid at the feet of one man to help someone have drive and ambition to do any flapjack thang. Sorry Dan but I am calling a bs on that one. First off if this is attitude black folks have because Obama is running now generations will want to aspire to great heights..then I am blaming all the generations before them for not teaching this one about the folks who came before Obama. Black history did not begin with MLK and Obama.

You are right abc politics makes folks emotional because right now I am trembling.

By Barack Obama

October 27, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Hello Fellow Americans:

I just wanted to say. BaRock the Vote! I hope you all vote for me Nov.4…I plan on changing the economy and allowing underpriveleged American’s a chance to excel.

Thanks Again.

Barack Obama

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Obama’s Mandate…

The Change it is to be.

…*this is why i don’t buy into the ‘face of Obama’ t-shirts. I was offered by a friend of mine, if i wanted a t-shirt they’d get one for me. My reply was, I don’t want a t-shirt with the man’s face on it. If you wanna give me something, give that $20-$25 to a charity supporting disadvantaged children.

I have a few Obama/Biden paraphernalia floating around the house that was given me free anyway.

By Keep it real!

October 27, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Dan you are 100 percent correct! Why does it take anyone to tell you to take advantage of what we have in America!

I hope everyone on this blog is reaching out to someone to let them know life is what you make it to be!

Plus with effort,hard work and getting back up after you have fallen life can be sweet!

By abc

October 27, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

I could have worded that better. What I meant to say was that Barbara Bush’s remarks after Katrina can be attributed to a wealthy neocon mindset, invested in the concept of trickle-down economics, with disregard for humanity in lieu of their own wealth. One needn’t be African American to avoid such a racist, elitist and neocon mindset.

Which is to say that I agree, For Real, the idea that trickle-down from the richest 2% results in a better economy for all hard working Americans is BS propagated by the 2%.

However, absolutely none of that is to say that the victims of Katrina were hard working, upstanding citizens. Of the evacuees that I had personal experience with, entitlement, laziness and ripping people off (including me) were what they were all about. Exceptions to that seem relatively rare, rather than the other way around. That’s not only to do with African American evacuees either. Much as I loved living in NO myself, I don’t have much affinity for that which is Cajun, Coonazz or Creole these days.

Crime spiked hard in Houston when the evacuee’s showed up, and that which was attributable to the evacuees has not subsided.

By kimmie

October 27, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Poppa - I agree with your 3:23. That’s what insulted me so much about the Palin pick. I bust my butt, work 3 or 4 jobs like a Jamaican, go to grad school at night to achieve something, but she rides in unqualified really to be even govenor, takes her 4 or 5 low-tier schools to get a BA in journalism and yet she’ll be that close to being POTUS! It brought back bad memories of working in corporate America and seeing them bring in people who barely had a GED & try to tell me their going to be my boss and by the way, will I train them!? H to the naw, that’s why I often got labled as not being a Team Player!!!

By Dan

October 27, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

@Kym

BS on your BS call.

It’s one thing to tell a young girl that she can be a doctor - another for her to see a female surgeon.

It’s one thing to tell a young Black boy that he can be a lawyer - another for him to see a Black man (even as a prosecutor).

One thing your post had correct, it is on the previous generations to cull that ambition, however you incorrectly assumed that even with ambition, that the factual reality was different.

How many Black CEO have you seen? How many Black architects? For that matter, how few Black politicians are there, period?

One can dream, Kym. But until you see a million dollars, does it really exists as a concrete image in your mind?

By don't care

October 27, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Is there an election?

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

truth…you greatly disappoint me when you attempt to paint me with the brush of generalization…and group me with a number of unknown random females…

i have not ever…nor will i ever have a problem calling a spade a spade or a bytch a bytch…

i am not in the habit of co-signing or bandwagoning nor do i post just to see my name in lights…if i don’t have anything valid to add to the discussion, then typically, i don’t waste any one’s time with self-serving nonsense…

i don’t uphold isht that goes against my standard for anyone or any reason…at the same time, have no problem standing for what i believe in…

i have my reasons for supporting her decision…go back to my 302p statement…and that was only the tip of my iceberg…

and for the record, i found your statement about considering her readiness prior to becoming a parent just effin ridiculous…

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Kym don’t have a Cancer moment at work/school.

By C tha 1

October 27, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Dan it shouldn’t take a Barack Obama, Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson to get people motivated to do something. It shouldn’t take TD Jakes, or Eddie Long to tell some of these women they need to leave these sorry azz, low down, and trifling dudes alone, but for some reason if one person stands up with conviction and purpose plus have the fortitude to withstand persecution then they are at least willing to lead.

But I do agree I’m curious how people are gonna remain enaged in the political process in order to hold the elected officials accountable.

By Dan

October 27, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

@Kym

I’d like to add:

African history (indeed the history of the modern world) begins with the kingdom of Kush;

African American history has Toussaint L’Overture, Nat Turner, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Benjamin Mays…and many others (including the Black man that invented the golf tee and design Washington, D.C.). Heck, the first man to die in the American revolution was Cripus Attacks.

So when you speak of history, don’t generalize comments thinking that some of us have not studied our own, okay? Preciate it

By Kym

October 27, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

C1 You are right no one should have to throw a freaking pep rally to motivate folks to do anything. Motivate yourself and then each one teach one and reach one.

By Adam C.

October 27, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Wow Blanca, that was a very lame break up. As both of you are equally responsible for the relationship’s demise, I think you should have not put the guy on the spot with politics.

Disclaimer: Hate me if you want, call me racist, I vote but every election I have ever been apart of, I vote independent and NO candidate applicable (Or I just write it on the ballot and talk about looks of hate), because every single election turns into a war of discrediting the other guy/gal. And this year is no different, actually it’s worse; from what I hear which way it goes either way this year is going to have the worst outcome and I want no part of it. What’s that? Choose the lesser of the two evils, can’t do it when clearly both are. I will never understand why something as petty as politics actually becomes and issue in a relationship. This Election Screw McMilf and Scrodoma Vote NO candidate applicable! If this makes me a racist or “one of those people” then it’s your problem not mine, you choose to make it my problem, I was given a choice let me make that choice. Don’t hate on a person for doing what they have a right to do, whether you agree or not.

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Dan im voting on ur 3.38pm!! Right on point.Some,not all need/require to see an example to believe.Thats Obama

By don't care

October 27, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Is there an election?

By Barack Obama

October 27, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

**Hello Fellow Americans:

I just wanted to say. BaRock the Vote! I hope you all vote for me Nov.4…I plan on changing the economy and allowing underpriveleged American’s a chance to excel.

Thanks Again.

Barack Obama**

By The Truth

October 27, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Sexy most women feel just like you (did i just put you back in the pot with all other women again?lmao) They feel like their decision to reproduce is the greatest contribution to mankind that can be made and everyone should support them no matter how it turns out. Here’s the skinny. We are finding out alot of these chicks are pitiful mothers and do nothing but clog up the system. We as AA’s can’t bear anymore weight.

Final score: Trick as mom 0, state 1.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Kym

I agree with Dan. You can hear it all day long, but sometimes seeing it can make the difference in the world.

I’m sure that other generations told their kids that they could be President. However, None have been black, none have been female, non have been muslim, etc. It doesn’t mean that they haven’t tried. However, when you see the glass ceiling it can be tough. It can be frustrating to see your goal, but still be blocked from it.

Even Hillary knows about the glass ceiling, when she and Michelle talk about putting cracks in that ceiling.

It is significant.

By kimmie

October 27, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

Whoa, it’s getting hot in here, but I’m kinda agreeing with Dan on his 3:38. It’s one thing to say “Baby, you can be anything you wanna be”, but it’s another to actually be able to point to an example of “anything”!

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

truth…again…you are wrong…i don’t feel that way…i don’t have n’dayum kids and don’t plan on having any…my womb does not definte me…

any by the same token…i could say that most men (fortunately not many that i know) think that all women live solely to long for the privilege on growing their spe-rm…or swallowing it…

By RELL - what it dew Ared

October 27, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

WOW

http://sandrarose.com/2008/10/27/ed-dunn-yeah-it-was-necessary-for-sandrarosecom-to-go-there/#more-2607

DEEP!!!

By Chink

October 27, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

People lack motivation on both sides of the fence. It doesnt take for you to be black to be unmotivated…there are lazy people in every race!!

I think anything is possible…and it doesnt depend on race. Yes I know our history but many

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Is there an election? nope,just ur erection…..

By Dan

October 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the comments folks.

I have a 5 Y.O. nephew that went to his first grade Halloween party dressed as Barack Obama (replete with color coordinated shirt/tie combo).

When asked about his “costume” he correctly stated that he was dressed as “a future President of the United States”.

That’s what I mean about the reality of occurance, not just the “possibility”.

But withing this reality comes the practical matter of completing the tale.

For all his opponents, does anyone but me find it odd that noone has a credible attack line or can point to anything this dude has done wrong in 40+ years?

Good credit, self made millionare, and now running for President.

If that doesn’t prevent one child (or adult) from getting a neck tatoo, I don’t what will.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Kym

In spirit, I agree with your 3:44. It is how I live my life. Why else would I big a big brother?

However, for some people, life beats them down. They start out positive but negative news after negative news can weigh a person down. Especially if they feel that they are alone and that no one cares about them. That’s how you get the “I’ll screw you before you screw me” mentality.

I’ve seen it with my own two eyes.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

How many Black CEO have you seen? How many Black architects? For that matter, how few Black politicians are there, period?

Dan Since you stated this in relations to our kids dreams/reality. You HAVE to take them to visit and fellowship. (get up, get out, go to community events with your children - we have had several conversations with Mayor Franklin since her office and don’t live in the city but the lady is well spoken and asked my child several challenging questions about what he thinks about the community. Our dentist is a blackmale, pediatrician blk female, he’s spoken with Brian Jordan about his career at the cleaners…and there’s more. South Fulton politicians float around SW Atl all the time, and alot of them are aproachable) Hellz, if i could take lil Cee to one or two of the Black Caucus events, i would! The CBCF now has program Plotting the Path to Academic Success for School-age African-American Males.

This example is the reason one of my son’s Christmas gifts will be a ticket to the Presidents Inaugural. I’m making installments/payment on our accomodations to be in Washington come this Presidential Inagural January 2009!

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

(Stevens goes down in Alaska!! Its not looking good for Repugs..

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

SexxyC mail call

By Kym

October 27, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Dan Allow me to answer your questions…first background. I grew up here in Atlanta. My granny lived off of Hunter St.(now MLK) I could see Paschal Bros from her porch. I knew the history of that bldg before I could even really understand a appreciate the signficance of the meetings that took place there. So allow me to give you a black history lesson.

It’s one thing to tell a young Black boy that he can be a lawyer - another for him to see a Black man (even as a prosecutor).

I can go you one better I decided to become a lawyer not just because of black and white Perry Mason episodes but because of Barbara Jordan.(by the way she counts as a politician as well-Texas) I know several black male attorneys who are successful graduates of Ivy league schools. And give back to the community.

How many Black CEO have you seen? Alonzo Herndon Bob Johnson C.A.Scott(founder of the Atlanta Daily World a newspaper my grandmother took) C.J. Walker Until he retired in 2007 there was a black CEO over at Merrill Lynch. Also, I have a few black friends who own their own business and companies who are doing the damn thang regularly and finding time to mentor others.

How many Black architects?

I dont know any but how about engineers and inventors. Lonnie Johnson(my son’s hero) inventor of the super soaker and currently in the AJC print edition for yet another invention this time working to improve energy.

Heck I will even add Foots to the list never met her in person but she says she is black and a engineer so works for me.

Wait just thought of one one of the ladies I volunteer with is a black archtect so I will add her too.

For that matter, how few Black politicians are there, period?

Man before Barak Obama or Jesse Jackson there was Adam Clayton Powell. There was Patricia Harris and I named Barbara Jordan before. John Lewis Michael Thurmond(Labor Commiss-Lawyer) Thurbert Baker(State Attorney General-Lawyer) Governor of NYC blind and black and a male a triple threat.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

PoppaG When i told my son he can be that airpilot he wanted to be when he said it 6 years old. I got up, and took him to a behind scene tour at Fulton County Charlie Brown Airport and told him - You have to start out with alot of math and rigorous training. My mother still believes he wanna pursue this :), went WILD, and purchased aircraft posters, books, a rug, and all of Delta’s pharaphenelia for his room. My son has 2 fighter jackets that he absolutely loves wearing to school. And as soon as he steps on campus at school, if a new kid hadn’t seen it they’d ask him all kinds of questions about the patches, drawn jets, and signatures on the jacket. There goes his idle mind in the morning..hahahaha…

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

melo…you are a nut…

By Dan

October 27, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

@CeeMee

I think a major turning point in my life was being able to witness a black architect work on Grady’s remodeling back in the early 90’s.

I got to sit onsite with him, watch him work with others, and do his job. Then (as now) I admired the art of architecture, and being able to see a Black man getting it in was astounding.

That said, when I was a camp counselor I scheduled a trip to see Paul Howard’s office. Should’ve seen the looks on those kids faces…

Some of the most ‘hood kids absorbed what we showed them, and went on to do better in life than others.

So not only am I a witness, I’m also a member

By LorDemi

October 27, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

C1 You are right no one should have to throw a freaking pep rally to motivate folks to do anything. Motivate yourself and then each one teach one and reach one.

Kym some folks like myself are very slow learners, I was 26 before I even realize what a great person I am and I too can, be successful as well.

It’s amazing how much your perspective change after dealing with your own personal demons.

Blue hell is up with this wind dude? I am pulling out sweaters in ish, LOL.

By For Real

October 27, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

SexyCool I know I’m late and you don’t care but here are the facts:

Truth I agree with you people are easily distracted. Look at this banking ish. If people took the time to research the facts about banks they will see this started in the 1900s. Nixon strenghten the bank’s position by taking our country off the gold standard in the 70’s and we have been praying to the “credit pipe” every since.

Dan I understand what you are saying but one doesn’t need to see something in order to believe it is possible. Example: Obama Oh and please let us stop referring to Bill Clinton as the first Black President. The problem with little black boys and girls starts and ends with their parents.

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Kym i see ur responds to Dan on 4.08 but allow me to chime in. U are personalizing the issue.Whilst its commendable that u have those powerful role models,other blacks dont or dont believe the ones they see. A black president will surely be a much bigger/ultimate role model for some doubting blacks.Even myself, i never thoght it was possible for a black to be president in this time period. Im more educated than most!

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Cee

Your 4:06 is on point.

That is how I’ve met most of the people.

I live on westside. For a second, I took for granted seeing Mrs. Coretta in the grocery store or seeing Rev. Lowery at Greenbrier or seeing Rev. Young at a DST function with his wife. Meeting these people and then arranging meetings for them to meet youngsters is important.

I will never forget the look on my lil bros face when he met Mrs. Coretta. It seemed like a light went on. That these people really live and they aren’t just in the history books.

By Blanca

October 27, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Adam Wow Blanca, that was a very lame break up. As both of you are equally responsible for the relationship’s demise, I think you should have not put the guy on the spot with politics. How did I put him on the spot? I didn’t bring up politics in the discussion - He did. We hadn’t even talked about it in weeks, save for watching debates, which is why I was caught off guard when he brought it up. And to that point, I don’t think politics was the cause of our split; I’m chalking it up to “he’s just not that into me.” More on the rest of the break-up tomorrow…

By Dan

October 27, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

@Kym

You’re missing my point.

Good job on noting the accomplishments of others, but ask yourself this:

Had you had the opportunity to meet, shadow, and glean in the knowledge of daily life for these people when you were younger, would it have been the difference between what could be and what is?

That’s all I’m saying

By RELL - what it dew Ared

October 27, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

riddle me this

why come no heath facilities(gyms) in majority black locales or hoods?…lets start there first

why come pawn shops have to turn over there list every day to police…but we have one or more in our communities

why come black folks dont know about eating all that junk can cause liver disease….why come popeyes always have a special..along with the golden buddha….

why are doritoa 99 a bag…but the healthier chip is 5dollars for 8oz bag

By Kym

October 27, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Cee Thank you. It is all about what you expose your child too. And if all they see is pants sagging and thongs then you get what you see. That motivation starts at home and yes PoppaG I know some people personally(family) who have been beat down by life but at some damn point you have to change your method and your motor. It is not anyone’s job to get you right or push your dream. IT IS YOUR FREAKING DREAM Sorry but I never taught there is a limit to how big my dreams can be so I need someone to jumpstart it for me. My auntie always said think big, dream big.

By kimmie

October 27, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

One of the top black architechs/firm owners in the country goes to my church & I used to date an architect.

My dad’s medical office was on the old Hunter St/MLK drive. He stayed there because he wanted to serve his people.

I realize every day I was fortunate to have around me the examples in the flesh. Also, both my parents were HBCU alums that made sure we knew black history did not begin and end with MLK.

All of this I know made a positive difference in my life and those of my siblings and classmates. To some, more of a difference than others, but a difference never-the-less. None of us could say we were not exposed to better, even if we chose the worst roads in life.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

So not only am I a witness, I’m also a member.

Dan

Is that your unofficial bumber sticker on your car too?

:)

By Chink

October 27, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Dan

I bet your nephew looked soo cute!!

By the way I work with some black architects and engineers!! And both female and male!!

Lets not downplay the fact that Barack has made some significant steps in getting people period excited about this election!! And if that’s what it took let’s just be happy it happened! I will be shedding tears either way on Nov 4th ..its a good time to be around just like it was good back then when we were united for a cause its good to see it today!

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

That is excellent Cemeeli. Lessons learned are directly correlated w/actions shown!

By Kym

October 27, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Cee My son wants to be an inventor..I took him to Macon to the museum there. He did a book report on Lonnie Johnson and I just clipped the article from the paper on him so he can put it on his board at home. His dream is to build a a teleport machine like he saw on Star Trek and a flying car. Hell I told him if he can get me out of traffic go for it. He wants to create his own inventions and be his own boss. And I would never let him think he couldn’t.

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

for real…from the sound of things…he would have ended up in the system anyway…he was already on probation…so, he would have been the responsibility of the penal system and the georgia taxpayers or the foster care system and the nebraska taxpayers…

and just for further clarification…i’m not trying to insinuate that this was the ideal solution to the situation…but when i asked the question earlier of what would you have the woman do…neither of you offered any logical or valid solutions…you keep pointing to the moot point of the fact that she chose to have the child…

at this point…we cannot deal with the cause…we have to manage the effect…

sheesh…

By For Real

October 27, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Cee You got it right that’s the job of a parent to expand their children’s concepts of the world and their abilities. People do a far better job of holding themselves back than anything else in this world. The sad part those is some parent not only hold themselves back but they do it to their children.

I’m For Real and I still got $2 gas cards!

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

PoppaG i have a picture, which i need to frame and wall it, of myself standind shoulder to shoulder with Colon Powell. I was dressed full attire in my NROTC military suit. This picture is from the 90’s, and momma was alot more youthful on the picture, LOL. But he adores that i have that picture, along with my schools entire Battalion standing behind me in uniform. So he knows how serious i can get when it comes to certain things…stuck thinkin He says momma, you were a dancer AND a soilder in college? I have to remind him ROTC is just training i was never a “real soilder”. But my point is he sees as side of me that is not only coporate chic all the time. that’s all he’s known me to be, all his life

By kimmie

October 27, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Lets not downplay the fact that Barack has made some significant steps in getting people period excited about this election!! And if that’s what it took let’s just be happy it happened! I will be shedding tears either way on Nov 4th ..its a good time to be around just like it was good back then when we were united for a cause its good to see it today!

I agree, Chink! I so wish my parents were alive to see it!

By Kym

October 27, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Dan I am not sure what you are trying to get at with your last little funky azz statement but to quote Mary J. “My life’s just fine” I am where I am suppose to be and I wouldn’t change anything for my journey now. Everything that happen in my life happen for a reason and every experience I can share with others. I gleemed from my untouchable/touchable heros as you would call pride in who I am and pride in where I came from. And that is the same pride I pass on to my son. So to end this convo let me just bless your path and push the hell on.

By Chink

October 27, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

I agree with you Melo…there are plenty of people who need role models and looking through a history book “won’t help”.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Kym

I have lived other places.

ATL is unique in its history. I know of the same people that you spoke of in your response to Dan.

Most places in the US aren’t like the ATL. History is way different here.

The fact that you can answer that is a blessing. You had people who invested in you. Everyone doesn’t have that.

You are making it too personal. Everybody has different backgrounds and resources. I was blessed to have people (parents and grandparents) who invested time (I never say spent time) in me to see me grow. Everyone doesn’t have that. Everyone isn’t made of that same mettle. You can have 2 kids treat them the same and they still come out different because of their internal make-up. In other words, everyone is not the same mentally and emotionally. That makes a difference.

Some can be taught and UGA and other have to learn through the school of Hard Knocks.

As far as the kid goes

I’m with Truth. Whether he needed help or not, all the kid knows is that Mom left him and will put her in the same boat as dad. No matter what justification that someone tries to make. The kid will put mom and dad in the same boat.

“Why don’t mom or dad want me?” will be the question in his mind.

By Huh

October 27, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Is this an election year or something?

By LorDemi

October 27, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

I could say that most men (fortunately not many that I know) think that all women live solely to long for the privilege on growing their spe-rm…or swallowing it…

SexyCool I am still looking for that type of woman…

Dan I do a lot of undercover volunteering work (meaning no friend or family know of these legal and positive activities I am involve with) in both white and black communities. It is fun watching these kids eyes light up at the unlimited possibilities of achieving their dreams because of a person like Barack.

I thought it’s important to have a leader who not only inspires his nation, but the world as well.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Kym go for it! Lil man is thinking straight…i wanna get out of traffic too. :)

By The Truth

October 27, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

For Real If people took the time to research the facts about banks they will see this started in the 1900s. Nixon strenghten the bank’s position by taking our country off the gold standard in the 70’s and we have been praying to the “credit pipe” every since. If only people knew. The Federal Reserve was created by and is still controlled by the Rothschilds, Warburgs, and other wealthy families. Who cares who makes policy, I want to control the purse strings.

The point is the politicians haven’t run this country since 1913, when the Federal Reserve Act basically nullified the constitution. If you want to solve the problem look at the source, The Feds.

Sexy I had manufactured all kinds of reasons to be mad at you and women but when you said “swallow” I realized how much I love y’all. Nevermind. LOL

By Dan

October 27, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

@Kym

You really are taking this personal…I didn’t intend that at all.

My point was imagine the impact (from a child’s perspective) of seeing someone of your own race doing a job that you dream of one day doing.

Most don’t have those opportunities, those that do - find themselves open to a new world of possibilities that did not exist until that moment…

Don’t take it to heart like that, it’s never that serious

Smile

By Dan

October 27, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

@Kym

You really are taking this personal…I didn’t intend that at all.

My point was imagine the impact (from a child’s perspective) of seeing someone of your own race doing a job that you dream of one day doing.

Most don’t have those opportunities, those that do - find themselves open to a new world of possibilities that did not exist until that moment…

Don’t take it to heart like that, it’s never that serious

Smile

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

ATF Squashes Obama Assassination Plot

By Leggs

October 27, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Good night!

By OBAMANDINGO

October 27, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Federal agents have broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree, the ATF said Monday.AP

By Kym

October 27, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

PoppaG I understand everyone is unique..believe me. My sister is younger and her mindset is high and too the left and we grew up in the same household. But Dan’s examples were as if black folks just got free because Obama is running for president. Hell Shirley Chishom did that back in the 70’s.

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Kym

My auntie always said think big, dream big.

Thank your auntie. Everyone doesn’t have what you have.

I try to look from other people’s POV from time to time. If I didn’t have my parents or grandparents, I would have grown up as a mean bitter black man. I would have been a militant like Truth.

I dealt with blown up mailboxes, spray paint on my house, heck they even killed my dog and left a nasty note nailed to his doghouse. My family taught me to behave differently and control myself. I think everyday about people who didn’t get that instruction.

You are lucky to have people around you that taught you such lessons. I’ve been to orphanages and such. They don’t get that attention or lessons.

It is just an example of how blessed you are.

It can be a different world if you don’t get the basics of life…for example, love.

By For Real

October 27, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Sexcool neither of you offered any logical or valid solutions…you keep pointing to the moot point of the fact that she chose to have the child…

It’s hard to develop a solution to a problem when you don’t understand the problem. Here are my suggestion:

By SexyCool

October 27, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

see…one mention of a sexual act was all it took…lol…

truth…i was about to tell you to go kick rocks with no socks…but you proved my point AND made me laugh…you too, DEMI…

so. i’ma sing kumbaya and huddle around the campfire under a blanket with no panties on…

By LorDemi

October 27, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

I agree with you Melo…there are plenty of people who need role models and looking through a history book “won’t help”.

I am one of them. I remember the positive feelings I had when I first witness a black father giving his all to his family and succeeding…I was 23 at the time and I was like WOW!

Now look at me…Folks be thinking I am actually a real DADDY!!!*

LOL

Demi is now sleds a single tear

By Dan

October 27, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

@Kym

I was talking about the people that came before Obama, came before the Greeks, and all in between.

Where’d you get this? —->

But Dan’s examples were as if black folks just got free because Obama is running for president.

Really? You took that from any of my posts?

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Kym, you know you are fighting this battle with southern mentalities. Race still permeates everyone’s thoughts up here.

It’s just a good thing the first black __ didn’t need to see someone of their same skin color do something to motivate them.

Hopefully, we’ll one day get to a point where a common skin color doesn’t have any bearing on our decision to be “inspired” or not.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

…i’m good to debate politics and “Generation 10’s” exposure to better thinking/acheiving until the moon turns blue ya’ll. Me and my folks do it to much, so i’m done…there’s no spinach dip, crableggs or wings for this kind of depth anyway.

Ya’ll be easy.

By LorDemi

October 27, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

so. i’ma sing kumbaya and huddle around the campfire under a blanket with no panties on…

Truth/Demi/For Real, are now plotting to over throw “Coach”

But on the real…SOME KIDS ARE JUST THAT F/KING BAD

And you have to do something far left to bring them back to reality…la Demi, Truth, or Dan

By Poppa Grande

October 27, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Kym * But Dan’s examples were as if black folks just got free because Obama is running for president. Hell Shirley Chishom did that back in the 70’s. *

Well, my bad. I didn’t read his post that way.

It just seemed as though he as saying that it is good for kids to see an example.

Sometimes words are just that words. I played in the NFL who had to put in rule so that black coaches would get an interview. yes, Fritz was a black coach back in the day, but black coaches have been few and far between. If things were truly equal, there would have been no reason for the Rooneys to push that rule.

Still, it was good to see Tony Dungy and Dennis Green. They helped make way for Lovie Smith and Omar Epps…I mean Mike Tomlin. Fritz Pollard was many, many moons ago.

By Cemeeli

October 27, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

It’s just a good thing the first black __ didn’t need to see someone of their same skin color do something to motivate them.

ARed it’s not about ONLY about being self motivated to SEE a black professional do anything. But it is encouraging to know that someone pave the way before you. /If they became the first whatever, even better. But alot of those first were robbed of their ideas/inventions. But today, - Ask several blk male doctors or professionals __ if you know one what other things motivated them besides their names posted along the credit…

But like i say we can go on and on and what warrants one, doesn’t another…

By AmazonRed

October 27, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

it’s not about ONLY about being self motivated to SEE a black professional do anything.

Cemeeli, I didn’t say that.

And I agree it’s encouraging.

By Babs

October 28, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

I definitely would have to know someone’s political views BEFORE they became my lover. It’s a sharing of values thing, and there’s no way a different value system would enter my bed.