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Birth Control for Men?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Have you heard about the birth control for men that is expected to be available next year? No, this birth control does not involve a guy spending the day with badly behaving children. It’s an actual pill (or injection) that men would take that would release small doses of hormones, not unlike the female birth control.
Taking a look at the so called “side effects” for men, they don’t seem as scary as the ones associated with female birth control. I read about weight gain of about four to ten pounds, but that would mostly in muscle mass (no fair!), and it lowers the good cholesterol.
What do you think of the birth control for men?
Guys, would you consider taking it? I know men generally have an aversion to going to the doctor, but would you be interested in finding out more about it?
Ladies, would you want your man to take it? Would you want to know if the guy you were dating was on it?
A friend of mine was curious about how much it would cost and wondered if women would be willing to pay for their men to have it. What do you think about sharing the cost of birth control?
Video: Dr. Gupta discusses the male birth control
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By Satoria Lynn
April 23, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
Wise - He’s not paying for my birth control! Insurance should cover it anyways. It’s a great idea though.
Good Morning Ladies!
By kinderbabe
April 23, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
good morning, all.:)
hey satoria:)
nah, can’t see myself paying for birth control. i agree about insurance paying for it. i’m not sure if men would take the birth control responsibly though. they do forget a lot of stuff…lol.
By SlimOne
April 23, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
Hump Day in Effect
Um…not really sure what I’d think about it. Naturally I’d probably be weary of it’s effectiveness…plus I’d have to trust the dude had been taking it as directed and not lying just so he can see me with a baby bump a few months later. Talk about role reversal…lol
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
Spring (Pollination), Babies…The New Boyfriend, BirthControl…hmmm?
By Blow Me a.k.a ROOKIE Cookie
April 23, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Good Morning All
JUICE AND Dunkin DOnuts Coffee for all
This is going to be a great topic. I don’t know I think alot of men will be taking this pill unknowingly to women.
We will all be wondering why half of the population of women can not have kids. Celebritys and Wealthy men would DOUBLE up on this shot. I think it can control the unneccessary tribes of babies that get created.
I know Truth would be the first one in that JOINT for that shot!! Tons of dudes would be lined up! It’s kind of sad though..it really is. I would become HARD to have a baby.
By Satoria Lynn
April 23, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
SlimOne - Role reversal, I can see it!
Kinderbabe - If he can’t remember to bring a condom, then I doubt he’ll remember to take a pill EVERY SINGLE DAY! LOL.
By Suga&Spice
April 23, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
Well at least the guy will no longer be able to scream ‘she trapped me, she said she was on the pill’.
By QC
April 23, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
Morning Bloggers….zzzzzzz
Hey SatoriaL, KinderB, Slim1
Have a great day all
By The Truth
April 23, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
Morning folks.
I’d use it after I tested it on For Real for six months. If he didn’t grow a huge lump on his neck I’d be ok with taking it. If I’m taking something and she is too then we should be 125% safe.
Now why would a woman want to pay for this? BTW Kinder some of us are responsible enough to take our meds. I think. LOL
If they just come up with a cure for Herpes, Aids, and Hpv its on again like the 80’s. LOL
Blow on yesterday. I had always “dreamed” of owning a dog since I was a boy. I just got to the place where I had the time and money to do it. I just “thought” about having a child. It was never a dream. And the thing with McD’s isn’t old yet. Everyone still thinks you’re making hamburgers from 8 to 4. LOL
By SlimOne
April 23, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
I wasn’t able to view the video but i found a related article on askmen.com…to find out how this thing would work…so basically it lowers the man’s sperm count significantly. I don’t know but that made me cringe a little when i read that…something about half-azzed swimming lil soldiers lazily floating about up in the gut. Ewwww.
By Satoria Lynn
April 23, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Blow Me - It might work, but only for the responsible ones. You are so right that women will wonder why they can’t get pregnant. She will be going to the doctor and saying WTF!!!
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
I think it’s a good idea. In fact it is the ideal solution for those men would do not want kids however wants it skin-to-skin but expects the woman to take full responsibility. But just it is the woman’s financial burden to provide such safety for herself it should be the man’s to do the same.
Bring it on and then let’s see who’s to blame.
By Bre'
April 23, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
BC for men…what is next?
I’ve never taken BC so I would not expect him to. He might be all into March Madness for a few days or at Bikers week with the fellas and forget to take it a few days. Then bam, I got the hump going on after he gets back. Nah I’m cool I’ve been safe thus far…so I can keep it rolling as is.
By Satoria Lynn
April 23, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
Truth - I agree with Blow Me. I think you would be teary eyed if you got the news. LOL.
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
SlimO Okay I had to chuckle when I read “half-azzed swimming lil soldiers lazily floating about up in the gut.”
There is only one way for swimmers to get in your “gut” and you definitely cannot get pregnant that way. But I know what you actually meant. LOL
By SlimOne
April 23, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
I wonder what would happen if both parties made a mistake and took each others pill by mistake? Ole dude would be walking around crying and ole girl would walk around grabbing her crotch and scratching her azz. lol
By kinderbabe
April 23, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
satoria that’s just what i was thinking! lol
truth okay, okay…i’ll give you guys more credit then. sike!! lmao
hey QC:)
By Kym
April 23, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Good Morning All,
I love the idea..I can see me taking my son to the clinic and putting him on the shot. (Yep, I am not trying to be someone’s G-mama) I dont mine if my SO is on the shot at all but I am not paying for it.(Health Benefits)
Man a male shot..Maury Povich may have to stop filming
Maury: So Ray-Tee..Lulu says you are the baby’s daddy?*
Ray-Tee: Nawwww man she got the shyt twisted I have been on the shot for like 3 years. My soldiers float they don’t swim.
Lulu: You didnt tell me nothing about no damn shot!!!
Ray-Tee: Thats cause I knew you would try to hem a brother up. Got to protect my soldiers.
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
But Bre I think it would be really beneficial for the men to step into our world if only for one month. Let them have that pressure applied to them for a while. Let them be the “responsible” ones for a change.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Morning everyone. :-)
Well, I think it’s a great idea and I’d encourage my man to use it AFTER a few years go by. Want to make sure the kids that do come from these men do have all their fingers and toes. LOL
I still feel I’m in control of my own reproduction. I will stay on birth control and he will be on it too. And we’d still use condoms.
By mytwocents
April 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Good Day All =) I’ll be interested to see how the man pill fares. Some guys are kinda put off by doing the equivalent of what women more frequently do. (She can get her tubes tied but he rejects the idea of a vasectomy.) I am curious, though about the effectiveness rate, must’ve missed that in the vid. Picture an apologetic guy tryna explain to Stace how she got preggers if he’s been taking his shots/pill. Comedy!
A Day Late & A Dollar Short… Really wish I coulda been in the mix yesterday. I feel like I was pretty much left unscathed. (Since I don’t view simple disagreement as warfare.) Dreams probably woulda had an astro-scientific explanation of Aquarians to explain this phenomena.
Darrell- Noticed there was no dialogue attempted even tho I was scarcely around to partake. Initially wondered if it was due to the fact that you reflected on my statements and somehow recalled any of my other posts & noted an absence of male bashing and no indications that I’d seek to maliciously disassemble the family unit. And maybe you factored in how folk often accuse women of solely relying on men and the fringe benefits of em to create/sustain their happiness and how my rhetoric was counter to this theory. With a sense of begrudging respect you pushed away from the keyboard! But nah, probably not. lol Then I saw that you chose not to respond to Kym’s Oprah rebuttal b/c of an assertion that she’d taken your comment out of context. I don’t see how, but maybe you felt I did the same? Still, I was truly shocked you never addressed me beyond embracing the pomposity label I affixed before kicking you in the shin. ;) So maybe it was that kick? Well I apologize for that…Virtual Violence is Rarely the Answer. Oh well, movin’ on…
For Real reminded us of our responsibility for what does & doesn’t occur in our lives, and it’s only in that spirit I’d even ponder such things.
Counselor Cee & the Court, I do solemly swear to make no more super lengthy posts this Spring. (Unless foolishness content level exceeds 75%)
PS Island Girl- Re: questioning the validity of stats provided by the Census Bureau. I know folk there and yes, we should raise the brow @ much of it!!!
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Now on a more serious tip that is a bit much of responsibility to put in someone else’s hand when my life will be affected for nine months and the 18+ years thereafter. The thing is men bytch about paying child support, about being deceived, about being shackled but it is the woman who bears the physical, emotional and mental burden of carrying, birthing and raising the child.
Just like a man has to trust the woman that he lay down with to take the BC, a woman must be assured that the man is responsible enough to take the BC before she lays down with him.
To solve the whole unwanted off-spring issues, let the man and woman both take it and they both sleep peacefully at night.
By SlimOne
April 23, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Raqi I wonder how the men would handle the possible weight gain as is sometimes associated with female birth control.
I said gut as opposed to being anymore graphic…you got the picture though lol I think I’d make a one hit wonder for the Lazy Swimmers….Crank Dat * LOL!
By Poppa Grande
April 23, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Good Morning..
I think that most interested guys would take it daily. I’ve seen guys take vitamins, whey, protein shakes, myoplex etc daily just to maximize their results from working out.
I imagine those who are interested in male birth control would take it regularly as they would their other daily supplements.
You’d be surprised how “responsible” some guys are when we see the tangible benefits to our actions. I’ve seen these guys visit GNC or any other supplement shop/website regularly and use their products as directed.
Raqi-that Freaky Friday mess would open the eyes of both sexes. Its no bed or roses for either gender. I rather not go down that road today.
By Satoria Lynn
April 23, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Raqilicious - What kills me is that there’s no gun pointed to the head. Come on!
By I am Legend
April 23, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
OFF TOPIC
Shiroma explained that in Brazil, a woman often takes the initiative to spice up her sex life with her partner in large part because of the fear of losing him to a rival.
WOW, wonder how many state women would adopt that view to keep her man from straying?
By Bit-O-Honey
April 23, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Morning Bloggers, Happy Wednesday and all that good stuff Birth control for men…hmm….sounds weird. I don’t think men would be “responsible” enough to remember to take it. Besides, what would ever come of their pull-out methodology?
dancing, dancing, dancing machine…2 days away from vacation!!
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Just like a man has to trust the woman that he lay down with to take the BC
I have always been amazed how “trusting” men are of this. I’ve heard of several who go “she says she’s on the pill.” and throw condom use to the wind. Let me tell you, we forget too.
I’ve been fortunate to chose mates that have really taken responsibility for condom use consistantly. I think it’s easier when you know your guy has a lot to lose by unwanted pregnancy as you do. However, there are far to many men just “trusting” a womans word and then surprised when she turns up pregnant.
By aqualung
April 23, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
A great name for this drug: “Shootin’ Blanks”!!!
Even if my guy claimed he was taking Shootin’ Blanks, I wouldn’t let him ejaculate into me without a condom.
Dumb guys will trust a woman who claims to be on birth control. They skip the condom and end up with a child support problem or too. Conception deception is not a game…
Off topic-ish: I don’t trust men who want sex without a condom. They’ve probably convinced other women to do it “raw” in the past, and so they are at higher risk for carrying STDs.
By The Truth
April 23, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Raqi for a guy that wouldn’t be pressure, it would be a relief. No more baby worries. I’d take mine daily with my Mega Men Multi Vitamin. LOL
Satoria I would be crying, at the prospect of picking a third world country to move to. Believe me, it wouldn’t be joy for me. I understand it for what it is, a life changing event that ties me into another person forever. Mainly financially. I don’t want that. Let’s face it, we live in a transitional world. Why make binding ties?
Ared maybe you should reconsider using Poppa Grand as an example of a happy couple. They agreed not to have children so their exempt from 90% of the bs a traditional couple would experience.
The dude that skips his pill and got Staceye pregnant is going to take a straight azz wuppin. I could see that cat in a corner crying with a black eye because he “missed”. She’d be standing over him wearing a hubby beater and timberlands.
By Bre'
April 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Raqi Yeah right…like we can’t step into there’s they for sure would never ever contemplate stepping into ours. I know this is off but I don’t believe in taking BC unless you need it for medical reasons.
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
Kym you just don’t know how much I wish I could have taken my son to get a shot. Talking to them and allowing him to buy condoms just don’t always get it. sigh
By Bit-O-Honey
April 23, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Here’s a thought people…ABSTINENCE!!! dead silence befalls the group. You can hear people blinking in disbelief
Yeah, I said it, abstinence. It’s the only true way to ensure no STDs and no suprise babies. When I say abstinence, I mean from ALL SEXUAL IMMORALITY….let’s chew on this biscuit for a sec.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
maybe you should reconsider using Poppa Grand as an example of a happy couple
:-/ Ha ha Truth. If he considers himself happy then that’s what I’ll consider him.
I was listening to Steve Harvey today and Judge Toler from Divorce Court was a guest. She stated why she took the job at Divorce Court. One thing she felt is that couples give up to easily. She’s been married for 25 years and can remember a time for 3 that she and her husband didn’t even like each other. But they came thru it. Her point was that you aren’t supposed to be happy ALL the time in your marriage. That just struck me. I hope I can keep that in mind when I get married.
She also mentioned that Juanita Bynum will be a guest on her show tomorrow. :-/
By IslandGirl
April 23, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Morning All
I think it is a great idea to have a male birth control pill, but I hope it does not take away from the importance of wearing a condom. I would also worry about how it would affect the male’s sex drive.
I personally do not like birth control pills, but it is fine with me if my partner feels comfortable taking the pill.
Truth now here is your orange juice…drink up on and don’t worry about the stuff floating in the glass (its just your crushed vitamins and birth control….double dose). lol
By Cemeeli
April 23, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Good Morning to ya!
Men birth control…hmm…reverses the “trap” concept.
mytwocents Virtual Violence chica?…uhn…Well i’m not gonna be able to “counsel” due to you not meeting the criteria for low to no foolishness today. We will revisit your case later this afternoon.
Corporate Thug ….corporate ebonics. Hmm i got to think about that one.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Here’s a thought people…ABSTINENCE!!!
Bit-O-Honey, I’m with ya. Can you clarify what ALL sexual immortality is though? No lickin? No touching oneself? You may have lost me there. LOL
By SlimOne
April 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Slim now filing papers to have BitterHoney exiled from blogsville lol j/k
By I am Legend
April 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
THATS MARRIAGE IN A NUTSHELL
She’s been married for 25 years and can remember a time for 3 that she and her husband didn’t even like each other. But they came thru it. Her point was that you aren’t supposed to be happy ALL the time in your marriage.
By Poppa Grande
April 23, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
Truth I agree to a point with you. Since we don’t have kids and chose not to have them yet, all kids that we encounter do not reside with us and can go home to mommy or daddy. We can walk around the house in our drawls when ever we want and not worry about blocking certain channels on the TV or nothing like that.
If she wants to hang out with the girls or me with the boys, it really no problem of worrying about child care. So it is different than those with kids.
I am indeed happy to be with the wife because as a former professional football player I ran across many chicks who want to trap a dude by ring or child. Finding sincerity really became an issue when I was really ready to settle down. Wifey had her own money, own life, and own goals without me so I wasn’t her meal ticket. So, when you find the goods, you keep it for yourself.
One of my buddies from the NY Giants wrote an article that explains it in an Essence article the was published earlier this year.
By Pussycat
April 23, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
I concur on whatever person stated being leary of dudes wanting to do it “raw.” That so speaks volumes on the type of dude you’re working with. Fact is he don’t know your past nor do you his and his willingness to risk life and consequences has “chancer” written all over it. Chancer? Live today and worry tomorrow.
@I am Legend If a man wants to stray, no amount of efforts can prevent. If a man wants to stay no amount of everyday-ism would make him leave.
By The Truth
April 23, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
Wise please check my account to see if I have 1 good credit available. If so I’d like to use it to have Bit O Hornies 942 post permanently removed and send her a warning stating any further posts of that nature will result in her immediate removal from blogsville, permanently.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
LOL Good morning Rell.
By Kym
April 23, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Byumn and Weeks are just on some straight foolishness. An if they are going on a reality tv show to air out their concerns it goes to show they are more about putting on a show than healing a marriage.
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Both parties must be responsible. As we have it now all the responsibility is on the woman when she chooses to have sex condomless (yeah condomless). This is only a matter that mature individuals can handle and only should venture into. It was about 2 years, maybe a little less, into our relationship when Mase and I came together and discussed ditching the condom. We both knew the risks that were ahead of us. Pregnancy, STD’s or whatever else. We made a mature decision based on trust.
I agreed to that decision placing 100% responsibility on myself to maintain an effective form of BC. He agreed to the decision trusting me to do so AND also realizing that there is always that 1% chance. Every time he goes in naked he is aware of the choice he is making. I am doing my part. The couple of times I was unprotected he took his chances that were much greater that usual. That’s on him. He can choose to turn over and go to sleep or enter at his own risk.
Having a male BC can put anxiety to death? Or at least in a deep sleep that is.
Disclaimer: That comment is probably all over the place. I started and stopped about 3 times while trying to work.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Poppa Grande - You got any tall friends who are looking for a sincere woman?
By I am Legend
April 23, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
ladies can you imagine the mental pain you would endure by being around someone you dont like for three years..in the same space, same bed night in and night out….all for the sake of “marriage”..she is stronger than me because i could not do it
sup red…..thanx for posting that…some folks need to see that..wash away that fairy tale marriage image they have
By Bit-O-Honey
April 23, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
AmazonRed I threw a blanket over the thing for those who would counter and say “you could get an STD from oral sex”. To your point, yes, it would include no touching, licking, using objects etc on another person or animal (for the sickos)
SlimOne I would hardly call myself bitter. Its just a little bit of “truth” on the matter. Its hard to live a disciplined life, which is why so many people would much rather tank up their bodies with the newest, trendiest drug/contraption in hopes of warding off pregnancy and things you just can’t wipe away like STDs (which of course includes HIV/AIDS). Instead of opting to be celibate until marriage. Now if that joker bring you some shyt, then..well..that’s a horse of a different color.
Truth I would expect nothing less than that from you. Muah!
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Kym - It’s just Bynum on the show. She’s not going before the judge. The judge will be asking her to share her testimony and then starts grilling Bynum with her own questions.
Gary Coleman and his wife will appear in May. They just got married and are using the judge as a marriage counselor for a tune up. I guess Gary has some anger issues. (wouldn’t you if you were 4 feet tall? LOL)
By I am Legend
April 23, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
good read
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/sayitloud/weathersbee913
By SexyLeggs
April 23, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Good morning everyone….I only have mimosas to give out
By Satoria Lynn
April 23, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Raqi - Yesterday you mentioned that you knew some single guys who are looking for a mate. Have you considered introducing a female blogger to one of them? If yes, which blogger?
By Blow Me a.k.a ROOKIE Cookie
April 23, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
The dude that skips his pill and got Staceye pregnant is going to take a straight azz wuppin. I could see that cat in a corner crying with a black eye because he “missed”. She’d be standing over him wearing a hubby beater and timberlands
Omgosh lmao!!! Truth/Staceye I could so see this. lmao! SISSY STAC ain’t no joke! She dont’ play that $hit!!
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
ladies can you imagine the mental pain you would endure by being around someone you dont like for three years..in the same space, same bed night in and night out….all for the sake of “marriage”..she is stronger than me because i could not do it
Rell I do understand what you are saying. I do. But if you could look BACK on your life/marriage and know that you may have 3 years of bad but 22 years of good, why wouldn’t you do it.
Folks today are always looking for an out. Why take the vows then? Are you out if your mate gets sick? Or loses a limb? I mean, why state the vows if you are just going to leave when times get tough? Isn’t life tough?
(And yes, I know I dont “understand” because I’ve never been married…)
By Willie Dynamite
April 23, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Morning All, Dap to the fellas and a slight tap on da azz to the ladies!!!
Male BC shots, sounds like a good idea for some Men. This is another option for those that have a fear of the Conception Deception game as Aquagirl put it. I do believe that most Men who choose to take it in the first place will definitely be responsible enough to stick to the daily or weekly regimen. Hayo if a bruh convinces himself he needs to take it you can best believe that’ll be part of his routine every morning like a cup of coffee.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Bit-O-Honey - So I can touch myself then? Cool. I’m on board. LOL
By I am Legend
April 23, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
@bit-o-honey
here is some ammo for you….
The Wife’s Responsibilities to Her Husband
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The Wife Too Should Have a Lifetime Commitment to the Marriage. Neither the man nor the woman have the right to end the marriage while their spouse is alive, except for the cause of fornication. (See passages listed above.)
The Wife Should Love Her Husband. Modern feminists say a woman does not need a man but should find fulfillment outside marriage.
Genesis 2:18-24 — Woman was created to be a companion and helper to man. She is not required to marry (see 1 Cor. 7), but by nature she would find her greatest fulfillment in life by loving and caring for a family. (See also Mal. 2:14.)
Titus 2:4 — Young women should be taught to love their husbands and their children. This is something a woman can learn to do. Again, love is a matter of choice and commitment, not primarily a romantic mood.
1 Corinthians 7:3-5 — The wife too should show affection and fulfill her husband’s sexual needs.
The Wife Should Submit to the Headship of the Husband. We have learned that God teaches husbands to use their authority in love. Though our society may protest and rebel, He also tells wives to submit to their husbands.
Ephesians 5:22-24,33 — Just as the church should submit to Christ, not rebelliously but respectfully, so the wife must abide by all her husband’s decisions. The only exception would be if the husband commanded her to do something that would violate God’s law (Acts 5:29).
Titus 2:5 — Young women should be taught to be obedient to their husbands. This does not mean woman has less ability or less value than man (cf. 1 Peter 3:7; Matt. 20:25-28; Gal. 3:28). But someone must be in charge to make decisions in the home. God has determined that this responsibility belongs to the man.
(See also Gen. 3:16; Col. 3:18; 1 Peter 3:1-6; 1 Cor. 11:3).
The Wife Should Work at Home Caring for Her Family. Our society places little value on the work of homemakers. Instead it encourages women to neglect their family responsibilities to do things God never required them to do.
Titus 2:4,5; 1 Timothy 5:14 — God says the work of mothers is at home. They are to manage the household, loving and caring for their family. This work is a blessing and should be valued and appreciated (cf. Psalm 113:9).
We learned that providing family income is a God-given responsibility for the husband. It is not the wife’s responsibility. There may be emergency exceptions (as when the husband has died or is disabled), but generally a mother should not neglect her God-given duties nor give them to other people so she can have a career or job outside the home.
Is it not true that outside jobs and similar activities often hinder wives and mothers from fulfilling duties that God requires of them? Consider responsibilities in the family, the church, Bible study, teaching others, benevolence, hospitality, etc. Specifically, where is the authority for a family to enroll their children in day-care so the wife can make money?
It follows that the husband and wife have distinct roles. God gave them separate duties and gave each a nature best suited to those duties. To blur these distinctions or to deny they exist is to disobey God. For both the husband and the wife, the greatest satisfaction in marriage comes when they follow God’s plan.
Again, the husband’s failure to properly fulfill his duties does not justify the wife in failing to fulfill her duties (Rom. 12:17-21; 1 Peter 3:1,2; Luke 6:27-35).
By SlimOne
April 23, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Bit It was just a lil A.M humor.
ARed I guess Gary has some anger issues. (wouldn’t you if you were 4 feet tall? Well Emmanuel Lewis seems to always be jovial for the most part. So i guess it just depends on how you handle things in life. I saw lil Webster at Dugan’s off Ponce de Leon with some chick. It just seems so weird because he looks so young. If that were me, I’d feel like I had Chester written on my forehead. lol They should have a show where Gary Coleman & Emmaunuel would be voices of reason. Gary would be the evil one and Manny would be the good one. Or maybe we should throw them both on that show Iron Ring and let em battle it out. I’d put my money on Gary tho
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Yeah abstinence works every time…however, the matter being discussed today centers around sex and pregnancy prevention in a relationship.
This goes beyond just dating. It ventures into marriage also and voluntary abstinence in a marriage is just uuhh…
There are many married couples who are opting not to have kids so this is where the BC comes into play. So to say abstinence…it does not apply. Celibacy sans marriage…honorable. Not all the time realistic…but still honorable.
By I am Legend
April 23, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
@ared…no..i see your point. I was coming from the standpoint of not looking for an out..but moreso staying in the marriage because of the vows…how did she live for those three years…how would you do it
By Cemeeli
April 23, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
PoppaG Are you or wifey former resident’s of The Lofts @ Castleberry Hills?
By Poppa Grande
April 23, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
AR We aren’t happy with each other everyday. Chris Rock said it right when he said that there are days that only an episode of CSI keeps you from hurting each other.
We were adults when we met and had particular ways when we met. We weren’t raised in the same households. She went to an HBCU (Spelman) and I went to a SEC school. She is from NY and I am GA born and bred. So we are different and have had different experiences. We try to keep that in mind.
Your statement about you mom wanting a grandchild sounds familiar. Thirty minutes after the wedding ceremony we began getting the “when will you have kids question?”.
My mantra is “Never make permanent decisions based on temporary situations.” Bad times are temporary even if it doesn’t seem that way when going through it.
There is a sign in my office above my computer here that states “Life is not about surviving the storms. Its about learning to dance in the rain.”
By SeanJohnson3000
April 23, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Sup Blog…any form of birth control is unnatural..therefore i wouldnt be down for taking it or even a female i was with long term taking bc unless she HAD to for other reasons. Whats the point of having a 40 caliber glock if it shoots blanks? Its power when know when you walk in the bedroom room holding “black steel” with the power of life in your hands…
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
SlimOne - It was a joke.
But I do see Webster out all the time. Mainly at the 100 Black Men of Atlanta events. He does seem pretty happy. Probably because he hasn’t been featured on E! True Hollywood Story like Gary. LOL
Rell - Well, I have the benefit of having still married parents and grandparents who were not always happy in their marriages. It’s just something I figure I’ll have to deal with…like childbirth pain. LOL
I can tell you that is why I’m extremely selective of who I date and what drama I’d put up with. Most divorced folks you talk to will tell you they knew there were issues even before the vows, but they went thru it anyway.
By Angie (formally known as Beautiful)
April 23, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
i love the idea! i don’t want to become a grandma. i would love to see my babies marry first. and it would be wonderful if they became truth. no grandkids is ok with me. when they come of age, i will enroll them in the parenting class so they can be educated about the pill, etc. i feel better now! it has crossed my mind. kels is 14 and loves the fast girls at his school.
as for me, i’m fixed so no worries. unfortunately, i still have to think about STDs.
i wonder will the pill give the men good skin too?
By DreamsMaterialize
April 23, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Morning Ya’ll I’d take the male BC no problem. And why do so many of the women think that men are not responsible enough to take them as scheduled? Are there really so many sorry dudes out there? Who are you all running into, and why?
mytwocents Dreams probably woulda had an astro-scientific explanation of Aquarians to explain this phenomena. lol guilty as charged. I’m a scientist through and through. Can’t help it. sigh
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Amazon Tell your mother I have a grandchild she can have.
By The Truth
April 23, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Juanita Bynum is a joke. If I had to cast my vote for one person to get stoned I would vote for her. That is one chick I could kick into a coma. And I’m not joking.
Ared “You got any tall friends who are looking for a sincere woman?” Yeah he does, and their all looking for a little hottie on the side. LOL
Rell it would take a chick to try to rationalize it with some old affirmation bs. Dude just wants to get his rocks off with some wild azzed freak. If he wanted a psychological exam he’d go home to his wife. LOL
Slim I used to take karate with E Lewis. We went to Keith Vitali’s in Riverdale in the early 90’s. He’d be in there with his bodyguard and hang his clothes up and they’d have the garanimals tags in them( you match the elepant pants and shirt to get an outfit). I saw 10yo kids tear his azz up, but if I remember correctly he was a black belt. LOL
Lets not kid kid ourselves. Abstinence will occur around the same day that world peace does. Hell, even the catholic priests get a little boy booty every now and then. This thing is bigger than us.
IG why you trying to double up my dosage? Insure against me recreating a Lil Truth? LOL
By Mo (also known as Moeisha)
April 23, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
Morning Everyone!!
Poppa Grande its always good to read that someone is happily married, yet can always state that it isnt perfect. I think some people equate happiness with perfection in a marriage. Also I read that article by your friend in Essence, was pretty interesting.
I am Legend Personally I think both parties owe it to each other to keep the sex life interesting, not one moreso than the other.
On topic: I think male birth control is a great idea. Like someone stated though, I would like to know the side effects. Just seems like there would possibly be some permanent damage to the lil swimmers.
Hey Cemeeli, IG, ARed, SlimOne, WillieD, Truth, Kym and anyone else I missed (its a full house early today)
By SexyLeggs
April 23, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
I am Legend, you truly would be surprised at what you would endure for the sake of a marriage!
Everyone should already know that no one is entirely happy in a marriage. There are peaks and valleys. Those who make it to the other side of “thru” are blessed.
I’m forever in that corner w/Truth. The institution of marriage is a crock of shyt! Sorry, but it’s not what it’s cracked up to be. Some folk like it and some folk don’t. I don’t. Don’t mean to be a wet blanket, but please don’t enter into marriage with rose colored glasses. If you do, you will forever have glass in your eye. Meaning you will forever be irritated over something.
Now, throwing mike on floor…
By Angie (formally known as Beautiful)
April 23, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Neither the man nor the woman have the right to end the marriage while their spouse is alive, except for the cause of fornication.
But someone must be in charge to make decisions in the home. God has determined that this responsibility belongs to the man.
thanks rell! ^5.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
and it would be wonderful if they became truth.
Angie - Did you really JUST say this? Wow…
Poppa Grande - The good ones are always taken. You’d better answer my 9:29. LOL
WillieD - I needed you here yesterday. LOL
Raqi - I tell my mother that I can go and get knocked up w/out a husband at anytime. She cools her jets after that. She needs to be requesting a son-in-law instead of a grandchild. She had 2 other daughters who are shacking. LOL
By Bit-O-Honey
April 23, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
AmazonRed yeah girl, “touch your body” (in the tune of E=MC2)
I am Legend uuhhhh…..thanks???
SlimOne it’s never personal dahlin.
Raqi I appreciate your attempt to shut down the abstinence chat…but STILL I RISE!!!
By The Melo
April 23, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
morning all.The juices wont be as good becoz they wont be powerful, so i dont see me using it. It will have a very bad psychological effect on women(man too) becoz(hear this men) they(wmen) will regard the man as not powerful once they knw u are on birth control…i can see sme females sayiing after all ur stuff aint worth sh@@%t !!! now thats not good, disrespectful to say the least.A man is worth what he is becoz of the power of his penis…believe that!!! Guys dont do it, these females are cowing the men, its crazy!!!
By Poppa Grande
April 23, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Cee - We live in the Washington Park area. I am so close to the Ashby Station that I can walk there and not use my car for a week. (I don’t though. I drive the 1/2 mile there and the 1/2 mile back because these law school books are heavy as hayo. No joke!!)
ARMy last tall single (6’6”) friend is officially taking himself of the market this summer. He plans to propose on August 8th. His lady has a thing about numbers, not as fanatical as Lisa “Left Eye”Lopes, but she pays attention. August 8th will be 08/08/08. Triple…for you lottery freaks. I don’t know what it means I guess that its better than 06/06/06. But you’d be proud, she is tall as well 6’4”. Who knew that there were black people in Vermont and Maine?…j/k. That’s where both of them are from.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Truth - I meant to ask if he had any tall SINGLE friends. LOL. You stink.
SexyLeggs - Whoa! So you don’t want to get married again? Why are you reentering the dating arena? Just for boy toys? LOL
Morning Mo!
By I am Legend
April 23, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
@bit-o-honey..you are the resident deconess…so i was giving you something when you spread the word..that was the point of my post…it was not a swiper no swipping move….but a geniune “hey” look what i found….because i am bible illerate on somethings
@poppa…i like that dude..your outlook on the storms…
By Cemeeli
April 23, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Sexyleggs How was class last night? Mrs. Reminder tells me @ 7:10 about that class and i thought about you.
Dreams a scientist at heart huh? Did you major? I agree with mytwocents you do have a tendacy to dissect at will.
Hey Mo, QC, IslandG, Bankerbird, Satoria, Sexyleggs, 6’1’, Stac, kimmie, kinderbabe, 2C, Blue, SJ3000, DK, WillieD, ForReal *…and *all the bloggers
By Angie (formally known as Beautiful)
April 23, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Ared uh, yea! if i had a do-over i wouldn’t have any kids. but since i know the feeling of having them, love it. as for my boys, hopefully they won’t create any. this world is not getting better and babies are expensive. i’m not going to say those exact words to them though. and yes it will be their choice, their lives.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
PG - Can I tell you how many weddings happened on 07/07/07 last year? I’m sure everyone on the blog got invited to at least one. LOL
Glad your friend is marrying an Amazon. My sister is 6’3” but her man is only 5’10. It’s funny. LOL
Bit O Honey - LMAO at “still I rise.” I bring the abstinance discussion to the board as well, so it’s nice to have an ally. I’m already starting to waiver though and I have a date this weekend. So thanks for kicking me back on track. LOL
By 2CPTG©
April 23, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Sup…….
Birth Control??? I’on know…..hell, I hate taking medicine period, so telling me to take a pill, is a long shot as well…..
By I am Legend
April 23, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
WOW!!!
Black women were once at the center of black men’s lives, as wives, mothers, lovers and partners… However, in this generation, black women have become somewhat of a nuisance, a burden, and perhaps even a pariah in black men’s lives…
For the first time ever, large and growing numbers of black men have the option to ask what they perceive to be a legitimate question: Are black women necessary?
This book is not only going to deal with the question ‘Are black women necessary?’ It will also take a look at the broader question of why black men are looking for something they think is outside black women.”
Excerpted from the Introduction (pages 2-8)
FROM THE BOOK DONT BLAME IT ON RIO…just wow
By SlimOne
April 23, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Truth I betchu didn’t know Mannie was one of the original Power Rangers. But they had too many camera issues as a result of him being so much shorter than the other Rangers so they had to get a replacement. lol
By DreamsMaterialize
April 23, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
Cemeeli yeah, doubled in math and physics; two masters, one in physics, the other in electrical engineering. True understanding and true solutions require that you break things down to the most fundamental elements. So, I always try to do that.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Rell - What are you going thru today, buddy? LOL
By 6'1 & Luvin it (Don Dada)=Playin both sides
April 23, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Hey yall (waving to everybody like my name is Twan) It feels so good to have a dayuum motorcycle with the gas at 3.50 a phlucking gallon. Today I have to take Big Foot to get his braces adjusted and I asked him did he mind if I pulled him on the bike. He told me NO So I will have to pull the car out of the garage. I really don’t.
By Poppa Grande
April 23, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Legend *Said in my best Coming to America’s Prince Hakeem voice”
Thanx, but it is not mine. It is Nichee’s..lol
By SlimOne
April 23, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Truth I betchu didn’t know Mannie was one of the original Power Rangers. But they had too many camera issues as a result of him being so much shorter than the other Rangers so they had to get a replacement. lol
By Satoria Lynn
April 23, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Cemeeli - Morning!
Abstinence. I can’t do it. I have tried, which was easy because I wasn’t dating at the time. It’s a pleasure that I so enjoy.
By 2CPTG©
April 23, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
“doubled in math and physics; two masters, one in physics, the other in electrical engineering. True understanding and true solutions require that you break things down to the most fundamental elements.”
that’s what’s up, Brother!!!! your undergrad curriculum resembles mine a lil bit….
By Cemeeli
April 23, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
@ 2C come in here take the mic, and standin’ off to da side. You kill it softly with the one lines…
@ PoppaG - You read familiar to me the reason i ask…oh well….still good to read you here and there. You’re a law student??? Do that! Are you attending State? WP near MLK & Hartwell right?…the Publix in Washington Park area is so small? …hahaha i’m hungry & food on my mind…
By Raqilicious, Inc.
April 23, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
BitO I am not attempting “shut down” anything. I am very familiar with abstinence. Been there done that. But that is not what we are discussing now. The topic addresses birth control options for those who are sexually active and that’s what I am commenting on. Yes abstinence solves ALL problems but not really.
By Blue_Kolla
April 23, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
What Up Blog…
I don’t know I think alot of men will be taking this pill unknowingly to women.
We will all be wondering why half of the population of women can not have kids.
My initial response to the topic was, “Hayo Naah.” But after reading Blow’s comments above ^^^, I’m thinking that it might just be a good idea, while not for me (at least not for the next 10 years for test purposes), but for society, men in particular.
Dem C’s Morning Ladies…
By anonymousella
April 23, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
BC for men is a great idea because it gives men power over their reproductive fate.
would i pay for it? heck naw? i’m too busy paying for my own … lol. i got one of them fancy pants types of BC that not all insurance covers.
<tangent> i’m trying to prepare myself emotionally for getting snipped since i am 99% sure i don’t want kids. but that 1% is effing with me. it’s just so final. </tangent>
would i trust a man who says he’s on BC? nope. a simple truism is that if YOU don’t want kids it’s on YOU to take whatever means available to you at the time to prevent pregnancy.
By AmazonRed
April 23, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Abstinence. I can’t do it.
Sartoria - This has been the response from 100% of my girlfriends when I told them.
Harlots. LOL
By DreamsMaterialize
April 23, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
2CPTG doesn’t surprise me…I can see the logic in your posts. lol
By Jazzyone
April 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
That book that you mention oh well to that. Black women have been doing what we have to since the beginning of time. A large percentage of our men are locked up, drugged up, beat up and down lowing it up. So the black woman being necessary??? Whatevs!
Yeah Ya keep going to RIO not our loss but theirs. A enormous percentage of sexual deseases have become prevelant and ya wanna come back here and spread them around whatever…keep in Rio. Fix the issues in the black male community and maybe just maybe you wouldn’t have to run to Rio hiding ya’s crap. puhlease. The black woman will alwyas be a queen with or withoutcha’.
By Bit-O-Honey
April 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
I am Legend that book sounds like it was written by a man scorned by a black woman. To even have the mitigated gall to ask “are black women even necessary” says what we can expect from this author. shake that salt off ya shoulder
Its always troubling to read/hear about people/publications that suggest the exile of a people* based upon anomolies of the few. If we were to take this perspective then most black women could easily argue that we could definitely do w/o black men, generally speaking. We all individually have our faults. However there is nothing like a black man. Just like every black man knows that no one replaces the strength, fortitude and pride of a black woman. fists in the air
*Klansmen and other hate derived groups are always up for deportation to space where they can kill one another.
By 2CPTG©
April 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Cee, in reference to the one liners……terse, brevity, and to the point!
By Bre'
April 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Really….seriously…Legend. WOW. Are black woman necessary? I think I’ve just about read it all.
Have you ever been to Brazil? And I mean outside of Rio and Sao Paulo? Also how many place in Africa have you visited? Just asking.
By Angie (formally known as Beautiful)
April 23, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
rell you probably won’t agree, BUT regarding yesterday, that is the reason why women are saying i’m doing me now. if men stop commiting, do women have any other options? God made women to want kids, etc.
By Cemeeli
April 23, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Dreams DO THAT!!! you smart as hayo!…of course.
True understanding and true solutions require that you break things down to the most fundamental elements.
Mo ^^ speaking of CHEMISTRY.
Sup Blue.