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DEL.ICIO.USChange of heart
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I once read somewhere that you should never try to change a man or expect him to change. I think this advice was not to explain the inability for a man to grow or mature, but rather a warning to women who are quick to try to take something they feel “has potential” and turn it into something “perfect.”
This statement makes so much sense to me, because I really think that what you see in the beginning of a relationship is what you get in the end. So if you’re not happy with the way someone—male or female—is in the first few months you know them, you won’t be happy with them later. You can either choose to get over their little quirks or not.
While I think this is pretty solid advice, and it has kept me from being that “woman on a mission” that you occasionally encounter on the dating scene, sometimes men and women can spark each other to change—but usually it’s accidental, unintentional, and simply a reciprocation of love for someone. It’s not because your boo put a guilt trip on you.
Have you ever changed for someone you loved? Was it a small change, like picking up a hobby they enjoyed, or a complete paradigm shift, like quitting drugs or binge-drinking?
Has anyone you’ve ever dated changed for the better because of you? Did you purposefully inspire the change or was it something your partner did on his or her own? What advice would you give to those who are trying to encourage their significant others through a difficult metamorphosis?
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By Lady J
January 23, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this
Good Morning Everyone!! Happy Wednesday!
MO & KB, it is complete and it is on and popping!:) Will keep youposted!
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
Oh, noone can chage anyone and when you start trying it is danger! A simple quote…”Be You”!:)
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
Good Morning…
If the AJC were a female, I’d say change your mode of thinking, every other week; You bore me!
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Good Morning There’s nothing wrong with change, as long as it’s within the parameters of growth, maturity, and progression. I always support that type of change.
By Got that?
January 23, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
The only real change a person can make is from alive to dead. Everything else is an illusion.
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
Good morning everyone. You got right to the point 2C. You can’t be too bored, you post regularly, although not everyday (LOL).
Anyway, I don’t think one should set out to try to change another. If a change is needed it should be done because YOU want to change something about yourself.
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
@Dreams…That is internal right?
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Good Morning All,
Bella I see you are channeling old topics this week. Well everyone deserves a vacation
Well here is my recycled answered….
You can change your oil, tires, socks, underwear. But you can not change people. “I always smile when I hear women or men say well if I could just get him/her to see.”
It is not for them to see you the way you see them. It is for you to see them as they really are.
Once you do that, you have a choice accept them as they are or cut bait.
I have made quite a few changes for the guys I loved..thats how I came to love football the way I do. But change my core values, Never. I like to think that as each relationship ended I learned something from it that made me a better person. That no matter how miserable that guy made me feel…I gain something valuable from the experience.
Evolving as a person is something we all do. You can not stay in the same mindset you had at 20 at the age of 40 I dont care what popular culture says. Life is all about evolving and growing and changing.
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
I know SexyLegs, I’m a masochist…..I love the torture; nah, I just like to see what’s going on in the neighborhood every morning before I get out, and at it……don’t mind me….prolly be on som ‘mo shyt today, anyway.
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
I think I’m ready for a lighter and fun topic on dating myself. These topics are so heavy somedays.
Anywhoo, the last guy I dated seriously, I encouraged change. Not for me, for him. He was so miserable with his life (hated his job, hated his lot in life, blah blah) I was tired of his complaining. He had the unfortunate job of being an insurance adjuster and spent his day arguing with people and viewing images of gruesome car wrecks. Of course, it affected his personality.
So I was basically telling him to suck it up and either deal or change. We were training for our 5K and he had a real knack for personal training so I steered him to a certification class.
But I realized that you can’t make someone change. They have to want it for themselves. So I left the relationshp. I hope his life got better, it really wasn’t a bad life, he was very blessed! But he didn’t see it that way.
By lurker
January 23, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
@2C What a cruel thing to say. What are you mad because the AJC hasn’t asked you to be a moderator? Why don’t you take your marbles and go home.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
I believe you can change some things about someone and yourself by being open minded about things. Change comes from being open minded, in my opinion. I guess it just depends on the change. I think some people think of change as something negative and/or bad, but that is not always the case.
By teresa
January 23, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Hump Day
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Mo comes in waving a white flag..Can we PLEASE keep it somewhat peaceful today?!?! LOL I mean I know there will be some fireworks but….
Hey Lady J!! Good lookin Chica! Keep us posted!! Happy for you!
Hey DreamsMaterialize
On topic: you cant change a person, period. You can influence them, but they have to make the decision to change. I have never attempted to change anyone, just b/c I may not like a certain trait or whatever doesnt mean I have to right to judge or critique.
By Rell
January 23, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
@KYM…..STAND ON IT LADY….I COSIGN YOUR RECYCLED POST….lmao…Yea the topic is a rerun but cut her some slack….i am sure it is tough coming up with this stuff….i am still waiting on another sex topic or an interracial dating topic in this city….i mean atl claims diversity….but ummm i dont see to many real MIXERS…
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Lady Definitely internal. All change starts with self.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Good morning!
…I see there is not any breakfast in here yet…
Here you go…
Brkfst menu: everyone have a dose of meth-o-check-ur-emotional-outburts strawberry mango smoothie…there is also several but-i’m-just-sayin’-bacon and eggs, pls sample our be-easy-salmon croquettes and hot butter grits. Drink gatorade and water for the ones that just can’t help but be THIRSTY! …breakfast to extra long to prepare this morning, but tastes good.
2C not a random for Bell today huh…just right at it…here have 2 croquettes.
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Top o’ the mornin to ya!
Stop tryin to change me woman!!! - thats pretty much all I have to say on that. Women I’ve dated in the past always try and change the kid but it never works, I can spot it a mile away. Fellas they’re smart, ladies will start off w/ subtle “suggestions” then next thing y’know you’re sittin there holdin her purse @ the shoe store on sunday during the BIG game.
However I do not believe that trying new things out is changing who you are. You can start riding Bikes, rock climbin, sky divin, readin to the blind, COOKIN & CLEANIN… and that will only Add to who you really are in my opinion.
By BLOW ME
January 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
GM….YEAH THIS IS TOPIC SUCKS
What’s really good the recycled blogs…just put the recycled answers up there!?!??!
We need a new one..let me think.
By BLOW ME
January 23, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
Rell What the hell???!?
That’s your new name…..
Rell what the hell…lmao!
TO ALL
Sorry i screwed up my last post. Please forgive me….lol
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
900K a huh…you come in here walking all hard!!!…prolly be the 1st one to change for the ONE. you are not fooling me… Lol;-)…
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
LOL @ Mo. I hope you have that bulk order of Vaseline I ordered from you yesterday! LOL
LOL @ Lurker
Side Note-for some reason, the following phrases really annoy me: 1) “It is what it is” 2) “Everything is everything” 3) “Make it do what it do” 4) “Do you” 5) “It’s all good”
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Mo How are you this morning?
Change is a fact of life that we should accept. Actually, the only thing constant about life is change. We just have to decide which direction we want that change to take.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
RELL You listening to V-103? Is anyone listening to V 103 and their topic today:
Top 10 Sex Myths
There you go Rell…. :0)
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
nah, lurker, not at all….but umm, how do you know what they have, and have not asked me to do???? silly rabbit!
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Rell Atlanta is diverse but it is also still the South. There is nothing wrong with interracial dating, just that it is not for every one. Personally I thought about it but I can’t seem to wrap my head around the idea of dating a man who is not black.
By pisces08
January 23, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Good morning All. I keep telling myself, you can change someone. It’s very tempting to try, but in the end the frustrations will mount, and your target for releasing those frustrations will be some unsuspecting “honey”.
By melo
January 23, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
the topic is recycled..hell ya coz lyfe is about recycling same experiences over and over and from year to year.So no stress here Bella Changing for somebody,that can happen although u have to start with your own beliefs.However, we are all products of our soroundings and upbringing.Some people are born around better informed people,more diverse,more educated and that may shape who they are as they grow up.Others are born worse off and their opinions are shaped likewise.As we get out of our parents cacoons, we may meet rough diamonds and there may be an attraction, except for a few unpolished things.So if the other party is open to better themselevs and open to new ideas i see changing somebody’s value system being a possibilty. My 02..Hey ladies,hey Jazzy u on ma mind sweetie.Have a good day blogers and blogetes.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Hey Page1908! Add “knowwhutImsayin” to your list!
DreamsMaterialize I am chillin, tryin to patrol these parts and make sure it stays somewhat cool today.
Thanks Cemeeli for the breakfast
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Rell- Your interracial dating topic made me think of something that happened on my first trip to Atlanta. I had come from California on the Black College Tour and while we were walking the Clark-Atlanta campus our tour guide was like “I know y’all are from Cali, where anything goes, but we don’t do that interracial thing out here.” LOL!
I do have to say it’s not as common in Atlanta as I see in other cities. But I’m seeing more black women/white male couples too. You go girls! LOL
White boys hit me up all the time on internet dating. Wild!
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
hmmm, how about this, since y’all lurkers like to talk about regulars and our constant complaining, how about y’all come outta the woodworks today, and fire away…let todays’s topic be about shootin’ down y’all nonsense…since you don’t contribute, you’re akin to buzzards….your only comment(s) is toward another blogger…..so bring it on!
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Morning All-
Change is constant. The problem is usually women try to change Men into some type of robotic utopian ideal. Men will generally backpeddal from this and end up straying or leaving. You can change some types of attitude and hobbies (its called growth). what you can’t do is change or try to change someones inner being. Just not gonna work.
Off-Topic- Similac One thing you gonna change is leaving all this Dayum popcorn on the floor. And where the hellz did all these empty vaseline jars come from?
By DasV
January 23, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
good morning good people
there is a popular R&B song wherein the brotha is asking a female to teach him to love, what is that blog bruthas? wouldnt that be change which all of you have denied wanting a woman to do?? isnt change commensurate with teach?
By kinderbabe
January 23, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
hey ladies ladyj, page, mo whazhanenin??? lol
ladyj keep me in the loop, girl.:) i’m down.
By Beautiful
January 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
some1 ova the holidays said this and imma say it again to the fellas. PLEASE STOP TEXTIN’ ME A PIC OF YOUR PRIVATE PARTS!!! lmao. its not cute or sexy, and it does not make me horney in any way . lol. and just to let you in on alittle secret, females get together at work and show each other (compare) and die on the floor laughin’. lol. STOP ALREADY!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Page I used 2 of your annoyances quit often. …Vaseline will not be used today!
Dreams I agree with you, growth and change is paramount. IMO
Hey MO any leftover clips from yesturday…j/k.
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
“isnt change commensurate with teach?”
Nope!
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
good question, though…but that’s like saying, just because I go to school, I’m supposed to be smart….the two don’t always go hand in hand…
what y’all lurkers say? trynna bring y’all out today…
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Page start the comedy show girl!!! KB good lookin sis!:)
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Lol @ WillieD you know what’s up. Just like Roy did Saturday…they were doing the Dang Thang yesturday. Shug and I had to take us a ride in the Lac, Page left that popcorn, wun’ me!…Lol
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Cemeeli- see you already startin to change me, with your lil comments but it aint goin work! But I will have some of that be-easy salmon… I dont need your fancy silverware, lemme eat w/ my hands! always tryin to change a brotha
Beautiful - your nasty azz walkin round with a phone full of d*@k… shame on you! You not complainin, sound like you promotin to me. Can’t wait to show the girls…
By DasV
January 23, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
change my line of thought, show me a different way is not teach me??
By Beautiful
January 23, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
900K no sweetie, they are deleted immediately. no blog fight 2day, sorry.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Hi DasV…breakfast for ya?
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
just because I show you an alternative to what you already know, is not a change, per se….now, if you apply your newly aquired alternative process into your own modus operandi, then, that is indeed a change….
what y’all lurkers say?
By Got that?
January 23, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Teaching someone how to do something is not changing them, because they’re going to express it in their own way. Trying to control how they express themselves is change and that’s where you run into trouble.
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
What up ya! hope all is well..I think while in a relationship in order to grow there are compromise and changes that occur. To change the core of a person and treat them like science project is a no go though and only leads to self inflicted pain.
I have done some changing while with someone and so have they its healty and all relative..but my core values, etc haven’t and won’t change..
Melo Hey baybeh..and by the way great post :-)…
Im behaving today…as for the topic…cricketts….blink ..blink….
I have dated interacially always have. But let me just say there is nothing like the beauty of a black man..love em, gotta have em….
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Similac Snitching on Page shame shame shame.
1908 everything is not everything, now do you and make it do what it do by getting this dayum popcorn up.
Growth/change is natural. The problem is when you deliberately set out to change someone based on a perceived negative. If that person is not receptive to change or just isn’t ready then its gonna be problems.
isnt change commensurate with teach Nope, they are somewhat related but on a different level. You can teach someone the bible perse` but you may not be able to change them into going to church regularly if they don’t want to go.
By BLOW ME
January 23, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
lmaooooooooooooooo @ Beautiful 9:50 am….girl you didn’t know that’s the new thing…D!ck pics text….So true we do sit and compare if you sending it like that! lol!
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
LOL LadyJ
now putting vaseline on my lips
Ok, so how about this dude came to my office to deliver a chair for my boss, but he had like hella Taco Meat showing and his shirt was unbuttoned like 3-4 buttons! It’s like what, 30 degrees outside! yuck
By kinderbabe
January 23, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
mo it’s so funny that you said that “knowwhatimsayin” is an annoying phrase too. i always think when someone says that to me, “nicca, NO, i don’t know what you’re sayin’” lmao
on topic: i think it is natural to make positive changes especially when someone is good for you. change reflects growth. if you’re not growing, you’re not living.
By Lex
January 23, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Ha,-You cannot change someone you are with. You can try all you want to, but one or two things will happen. They will become pretenders in front of you just showing you what you want to see and you will lose site of who they really are or they just will not allow you to do it. It always means more when someone change for themselves, or I wouldn’t even call that change since that is past-based. I would stay when they “transform” inventing themselves, that is future-based.
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By Lex
January 23, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Ha,-You cannot change someone you are with. You can try all you want to, but one or two things will happen. They will become pretenders in front of you just showing you what you want to see and you will lose site of who they really are or they just will not allow you to do it. It always means more when someone change for themselves, or I wouldn’t even call that change since that is past-based. I would say when they “transform” invent themselves, that is future-based.
www.landmarkforum.com. - check it out!
By DasV
January 23, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
CeeCee yea, gurl. lemme have a couple of salmon patties and some OJ,iffin you have any…. cause i stays quench’d…. in my mind anyway. LOL
GotThat im feelin that trying to control how they express themselves is… where you run into trouble.
OK. so iffin a brotha says in specific terms for help in a particular area, its OK, but proceed with caution. if the help is not solicted… just stand by and watch him self-destruct (possibly).
By MsUnderstood aka MsU
January 23, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Hey Everybody
Change is good!
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Good Day ALL
* Mo* I was listening to the top 10 sex myths…I disagree with 2 things:
If he has an affair he does not love you. They said false and that it only means he does not respect you…but I believe it to be true because if you really love me you would not hurt me on purpose by sleeping with somebody else. And I believe to love someone you must respect them. To say that you do not implies the lack of love for you.
Black men are bigger. Being the United Nations dater that I have been…I have been dissappointed in the size of the package of a Brotha and shock at the super sized package of White guy. Granted he was not from this country…but still not a Brotha!
900 Now stop frontin’ boo…you were holding my purse while I tried on clothes and shoes just this past weekend! You said those stillettos would go good withthe Bills jersey you bought for me! LOL
ARed** girl there is nothing wrong with the swirl (hey Binford)….brothas do it all the time! So why is it some big crime if we do it! Screw them haters…LOL
DasV great point girl!
Beautiful LMAO girl it it too early in the morning for you to have me cracking up like this! But so true…i hate for a guy to send a text picture of his joint..like I am supposed to be turned on by that crap. I may print it out and through darts at it just for fun! LOL
By DasV
January 23, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
if i change my MO because of the alternate approach you have peep’d me to… it works better for me than what i had been doing, is there shame in saying you’ve changed me for the better??
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Page it is no way I could work by you we would be in time out! You are crazy! LOL
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
What you see it is what you get…a desire to change has to have an internal motivation for self-actualization and betterment. I believe that most people are set into their own individual lifestyles habits and patterns by a certain age and that any change that is not derived from self-will is not going to come without negative consequences to the relationship.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
900K why put B on blast lke that !?!…here have some egg and bacon with your croquettes. Lol.
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Das No is my answer. To shed a lil light to make it clear. If you were to teach an ex-con how to love and your relationship grew to perfection however he goes out and robs a bank. Did he change? No, he just learned to love you better, still a crook tho… a crook in love. I think that events happen in our lives to help shape us into who we are, so if you and yours go through sumtin 2gether then change may take place. Life, death, disaster, great finacial winfall… These are the types of things that will change a man, not just love.
Beautiful- I was jus jokin w/ ya Ma, but I see we have diff sense of humor so I’ll leave you be.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
LOL Willie
Something else that is funny that I have heard since I moved here is when I hear dudes say “yeah man, ole girl was gettin down and she had the nerve to look back at it”…LOL
Oh yeah, something else…why do people in Atlanta say things like this: “I went to the store ON yesterday”, or “The meeting we had ON yesterday was cancelled”. I’m like WTF, you are not supposed to say ON. I had never heard anything like that until I moved here….that’s annoying!
By eyes
January 23, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
QUEStion for the guys…If your girl wasnt good at pleasing you orally would u cheat or dump her….sometimes I bring him to that point & sometimes I dont & I feel bad when I dont…any suggestions..Thanks
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Staceye thank you! /c 900K is not fooling no one!
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Staceye - I’m with you girl. If you’re into the swirl, go for it! But it’s not my thing. I really believe in preserving the black family.
However, if God thinks my mate should be white, then I fully intend to get my Helen and Tom (Jeffersons reference) on!
By Katie
January 23, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
No, you can’t change people. People can, however, change themselves if they really want to.
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Sex myths…there are some “general” rules that hold true in most instances, and like most rules-there are exceptions…and I have found that most brothas hit the rule 95% of the time-lol, otherwise they need to apply for affection elsewhere…
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Page1908, I love you so much for your 10:34. I have been p** off my southern co-workers for 2 years by responding “there is no such thing as ‘ON tomorrow!’”
I really think they teach this “english” in the public schools. Sad!
By Beautiful
January 23, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
900K it’s hard to tell when y’all are being funny or an azz. my bad.
Cemeeli what’s up chica?
By Rell
January 23, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
@staceye…just because you cheat does not mean you dont respect the person you are with…most cheaters feel disrespected in some way by there mate…..so they work an excuse in there mind to justify there action(please read that again slowly)!!!…and the person being cheated on has no clue that there selfish ways or lazyness as caused a divide in relationship…for every thing in life as you know there is a cause and effect…period…there are many levels of disrespect a guy can feel…lack of sex, wieght gain, attitude, switch in values…all can lead to hurt feeling and a lack of drive toward maintaining the union..women and men need to do rountine checkups in there relationships to head off these issues
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
DasV valid point. hunm…What if a brotha asks a sista to help change some of his ways??? How do we proceed?
Hi M’ long time no read. How are you?
By melo
January 23, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Staceye,trust me whites are smaller.U may have met an excpetion.When we meet in the bathrooms, they prefer to go in the cubicle to urinate instead of the urinals, to hide their little unes…wtf. Beautiful a guy who sends pics like that is not taking u seriously, relationshipwise, and u do likewise,unless ofcourse ur minds are meeting in that regard.All they are thinkng ‘bout is sexing u.
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
“if i change my MO because of the alternate approach you have peep’d me to… it works better for me than what i had been doing, is there shame in saying you’ve changed me for the better??”
not at all….that, my dear, is the application of learned processes. You say you’re in academia, when a student finally grasps the concepts in which you’re trying to convey, they pass, right?
By Lulu
January 23, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
My ex was one bad mofo and when we got married I could see him geniunely trying to change and do things in a family way. But eventually his true self took back over because he never could change his core, his being. People can only fake for so long but if they never change their beliefs and living for theirself…they WILL NOT be able to keep it up for you. just my opinion.
By BLOW ME
January 23, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
Staceye Funny!! Throw darts @ it!! You got me crying!!
By Rell
January 23, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
@eyes…i would not dump her..just make her practice more….lol…what makes you uncomfortable about it?…that is the question, all that stuff is just mental that is all….o
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
AmazonRed/Staceye Happy New One sistah girls!!! Been there, done the swirl and it wasn’t a bad experience, but I woke up on day (I mean literally got up) thinking that something was always missing when I dated outside the race, something just seemed to be missing from a more deeply rooted sense of understanding of my “who-ness” as an African American woman and the tacit qualities of the experience that can not be comprehended by an outsider.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
LOLROTF@Page’s pet-peeve ON wait, to you hear ‘fixin ta go to the sto’ or ‘we to make some groceries’… LOL
Willie and 900K thanks. its coming into focus for meh. change and growth are not the same. i can add to whats already there and the direction someone is headed…. but i cannot make them go a different way, take a different route. but how can us womens know what to add… if you all dont readily admit where you are lacking?? according to every blog brutha, yall are happy with the substitute sistas, not the real thing that will make you up your game if they love ya.
and 900, you right, loving someone and rehabiltating them from they crooked ways are two different things.
M’K good to read you!
By pisces08
January 23, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
@ Eyes. I wouldn’t cheat or dump… maybe I would offer suggestions, or look down and say good job. You know… Bernie Mac, what am I supposed to say…. Good Job!
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
Page seriously ive lived in Cali and the same things you are saying you never heard ive heard in San Fran…they say it on the news all over the country..seriously…sometimes you make it seem like we are on another planet and we aren’t the south isn’t another world…im just saying thats annoying to be honest…
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
No one has ever sent me a dyck pic. They know from jump that sort of behavior is unacceptable! LOL
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
You guys take care today. Received a phone call earlier this morning that my “mom away from home” just died. She was so good to me! I’m not comfortable w/death and I can’t stop crying. I have to pull myself together. Not good to break down at work. Channeling Florida Evans with fists in the air DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!!! (LOL).
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Cemeeli
I am groovin’ sis. Things are cool. Still chillin’ in the VA and diggin’ it-people are so much more on the real and true…
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
I mean im not trying to throw shade page..but just recognize you moved to a different area where the dialect and behavior may be slightly different…but you’ll get used to it…if not Pheonix is stillt here…but glad to have you here welcome…
By abc
January 23, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Bad habits and addictions such as drugs, booze and cigarettes aren’t the sorts of things that chicks try to change about you. That’s pretty naive, superficial much? Alcoholism is a disease, not something one can voluntarily change for their intended. Would you ditch someone with depression, or help them get treatment? That’s not undertaking to change them, it’s helping them. Do so without a personal agenda.
Considering things like that “change for the better” is a typical chick’s point of view. It would follow that the guy should change his career, be more ambitious to achieve executive ranks, want to move where she wants to live, do the things that she likes to do, and give up everything about himself that is important to him.
Usually, there are just a few things about a man that make him who he is, and they usually go back to his childhood or teen years. They’re things that first opened his eyes, ears, mind and heart. Art, philosophy, music, love, places, experiences… one tends to rediscover them over and over, reinforcing who one really is. Chicks want to change those things, and often refuse to accept they can’t.
It’s stuff like that that counts, not things like losing weight.
By melo
January 23, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
off to the dentist.Jazzy,Beautiful&Staceye make sure nobody is backbiting me guys.Thx in advance(in ma next lyfe i’m gonna be a polygamist)I luv hefner,hes my idol.
By Beautiful
January 23, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
melo good morning. that is the exact way im looking at it. and i think its alittle disrespectful. my baby looks in my cell every single day (pics, flix, texts). i can see him running back to his dad now. why mom got a wee wee pic on her phone?. omg.
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
DasV
Give thanks!! I see the blog is still on a role and all…
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Page The lingo in the ATL is funny. I’m from FLA so it wasn’t a big change to me because we have our very own way of expressing ourselves. Whats annoying to me is the Ny cats and there lingo. I can’t have a convo with them w/o either cracking up or telling them to get the hellz on-nawmean. For you NY folks that wasn’t a jab,just let it go son.lol
Eyes I’ll let you in on a secret. we like it how we get it but you gotta know your status. it’s 3 types of women—
1- Those that don’t do it 2- Those that do it only because they think its a part of S3X (thats you) 3- The ones that love it (ding ding ding we have a winner).
If you are serious about upping your game then just ask the brutha. I can hear whispers of your inner slut wanting to come out. just give in to it. Your Man and your relationship will be better for it. trust that!!
And to answer your ?, I wouldn’t cheat or dump her. For me she can’t be with me if she isn’t at least between 2 and 3.
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
M’karyl - Happy new year to you. No need to include me in the swirl convo. I don’t date white guys AT ALL.
All I’m saying is that I’m not completely be close minded that I’d say I’d never get with a white guy. He’d just have to be exceptional.
By eyes
January 23, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
@RELL…what makes you uncomfortable about it?…that is the question, all that stuff is just mental that is all….o) Im not uncomfortable doing it now….I must not be doing it right at least some of the time anyway….what do u mean mental?…I just wasnt experience in this before so I am trying…
By eyes
January 23, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
@RELL…what makes you uncomfortable about it?…that is the question, all that stuff is just mental that is all….o) Im not uncomfortable doing it now….I must not be doing it right at least some of the time anyway….what do u mean mental?…I just wasnt experience in this before so I am trying…
By eyes
January 23, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
@RELL…what makes you uncomfortable about it?…that is the question, all that stuff is just mental that is all….o) Im not uncomfortable doing it now….I must not be doing it right at least some of the time anyway….what do u mean mental?…I just wasnt experience in this before so I am trying…
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
Dialects and speech patterns vary from region to region, and there are truly some very noticable differences in patterns North v South, etc. And given that people tend to use/develop speech patterns based upon where they live, the way things are stated tend to be ingrained patterns (without thought-as in a rote manner)in communication.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Some things i think…no I know i need changed about me…
Balancing emotional dependency/clinginess.
How not to be independantly ingnorant. Help is okay.
Listen and observe more & more, with hold a comment when applicable…
…how to keep my car cleaner and paper work more organized. is there a way to Go-paperless w/everything…is this possible?
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Willie - Isn’t there a subgroup of #2 who do it because it’s a part of sex but are good at it because they enjoy pleasing their mate? They don’t love doing it in general (and therefore won’t do it on just anyone) but don’t mind at all doing it for the right person.
LOL.
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Leggs hold it down baby, our thought and prayers are with you.
By Rell
January 23, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
@ared..whats your number i will send you a pic of russel - the love muscle - i will show you my passion for you…..lol
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
Cemeeli - you know me by now, I aint playin no games. I’m gonna do me no matter what. But that don’t mean I ain open to new things, I just aint tryin to turn my life around. So with that said I have this Karma-Sutra book…
Staceye 1st off we were at the crib when all that happened, so it aint the same. Plus with that jersey on you just aint playin fair… Dont know what I might do! On a serious note babigirl, please dont go knockin all men then go and big up the pale face dudes, I must say I am a lil taken back by that cuz now I see it aint men you hate its brown dudes. I read your post to Ared and it comes off like you kind of doing some PR for the pink toes! Man that hurts
m’karyl - I would just like to say thank you!
Das- I like your growth girl! LoL But to answer you new ques, you dont need to look for things to add to him. We don’t like to feel like Your work-n-progress, we can pick up on that real quick. In time y’all spend together let him know what is required of you to be Yours. He then should look toward being more of a complete pkg to match you, just be prepared to meet His requirements as well.
By mqew
January 23, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Morning peeps!
Man pleeze. Change the core, change the outside, change errthing. You def go into relationships with your own, but please don’t think that you’re not going to have to change. All the peeps that said the superficial change is good…. what about the core items that are detrimental to life love and pursuit of blah, blah, blah. Of course trying to change someone for the (I assume) better, especially if it’s a “core” issue is going to bring problems. DUH!! it’s called a relationship. This shyt ain’t easy!!!! CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE!!
Off topic - I don’t think I want to even know a “man” 1. that has the time on his hand to take a pic of his thing, 2. would even send it to ME for whateva reason (spark somethin, or joke). I would “change” where the he!! I’m meeting men like that.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Page1908 & ARed My mother would be co-signing you guys. Now some things, though grammatically incorrect they are, are just part of where you are from! In GA we say finna go, bout to, up under the sink/car/whateva, so forth and so on. Both of my college roommates we west coast girls and I bout died the first time I heard “hella” and the emphasis on the “r” sound. Everybody in the Midwest sounded like Nelly to me (over herr), VA/DC folks dont say “he wasnt” but rather “he wont”… I could go on and on. Somethings get to me too Page1908 but I just chalk it up….
Hey MKaryl*, how are you?
By here goes
January 23, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Be not conformed to this world but be ye transformed by the renewing of your minds…that’s all the changing that needs to happen.
By BLOW ME
January 23, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
EYES Please step away from the post button……!! Geez us!
By mytwocents
January 23, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
2CPTG© I just got here last week & have added a few tidbits, so I’m no lurker. BUT on behalf of those who are and/or newbies, I will say that some of y’all don’t necessarily seem as inclusive as you believe yourselves to be. For instance, it’s cool to shout out your regular peeps, but LOTSA side comments that those who aren’t in the loop have no reference for. Hence, the lurkers may feel a shunned. So maybe send an email instead if u wanna reminisce about the 4th of July BBQ or the Bachelorette Party? I’m just sayin’. Ok, now I’m done w/ my PSA…
1908 Some fools don’t know: like all other vices, phrases should be used in moderation!
Amazon Do tell where you take those classes mentioned ON YESTERDAY ;). Gracias.
DasV HATED that song when it first came out! Real bitter bout 30ish yr ol men who expect me to teach them basic survival skills I feel they should already have picked up. However, had to re-evaluate. Listenin to some of my ladies, became horrified at how many of us are still giving ‘it’s not okay to show emotion - be a man!’ or ‘i ain’t got time for you unless you’re paying my bills,’ & the famous ‘can’t roll out w/ u, it’s not a Benz’ type of bs. Why many of these wounded gentlemen try to persevere & continue to pursue is another topic… Change starts from within and one’s willingness to do so should not be solely motivated by their mate’s desire. Have a lovely day all!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
M’ keep me posted…i haven’t set a date for my road trip to shop yet!
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
AmazonRed
I got that…I was just acknowledging both sides of the coin because I can agree with each one. And in my case, I went from one end to the other before I finally realized that I prefer the fermone scent of a Black man (uh-uh)…exclusively. And I also think that your views are valid about preserving the Black family…can’t do that with miscegenation…
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Rell - That’s exactly why you don’t have my number. LOL
By mqew
January 23, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Sexyleggs Sorry for your loss!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
ooohhhh 900K wit your Sutra book…Lol. Did you see my ‘Things to Change about Me’ post? Which one do you have something to say about?
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Page Nah girl…not the taco meat! EWWWWW!!!! LOL
I feel you ON the way English is spoken here! I can expect that is English is not your first language. You will speak it the way it translate in your 1st language.
Lex I had 2 friends back home do that landmark thing. They tried to get me to go..I was not enthused! LOL Did you enjoy it?
Rell then what you are stating is a lack of communication. I hate it when a guy does something and then blames it on something I supposedly did. But he did not talk to me about it…he just got it in his head that he was disrespected so not let me go have an affair. I think that is a scapegoat for an affair or to make it justifiable in that person’s head. If someone has done something to upset me…I will surely let them know. That is where the Sag mentatlity comes otplay…we do not dance around stuff nor sugar-coat it. We just let be known because we hate to be misunderstood. Sometimes we are too blunt for other people’s feelings…but it the truth and how we really feel…no misconstruing anything or leaving anything to be assumed. We will have done everything but write it down in black and white or record ourselves to make sure we are heard!
Melo that exception was bigger than any brotha I had been with. I was 2 seconds from running…but Ihad to be a woman about mines! LOL But I guess as a whole you maybe right! But like I said I have seen a few Hersheys chocolate miniatures! LOL
Lulu you are 100% right. You can only fake the funk but for so long before the real you that you had hidden in the back of the closet comes out. Now, if God changes that person…then his core is changed. But that is not an all the time thing. Which leaves you to wonder…she you run for the hills at the sign of the 1st red flag…or stay because you see potential good in the person. That has always been my problem. I think I gave the benefit of the doubt to the wrong men and did a Jackie-Joyner Kersy on the ones I should have given a chance. There is not fool-proof way of determinig that huh? UGH!!!
m’karyl not only the brothas can understand my nutty azz! LOL I am mixed up ethnically so I guess I am just…mixed up!
Sexyleggs I am sorry mami! Youjust lost your mother-in-law not too long ago right? Wow!
Spekaing of death…REST IN PEACE HEATH LEDGER I am a big fan of his work. I can not wait for Dark Knight and the next Batman to come out. From the trailers I have seen…he has managed to make the Joker even more twisted, dark and sadistic than Jack Nicholson….if that is even possible. He took his roles internally strong. Great loss of a young star and father to a 2 year old daughter!
By Rell
January 23, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
@smh…on the staceye attention daily….so she prefers whites…sooooooo…hell i would prefer a nice big booty latina with long pretty hair and a face to match…speaking to my daily guilty pleasure…lusting after the women on brazilgirls.com….lol
we like what we like….
By DasV
January 23, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
yes. academia is my profession, but my business persona is none my relationship one.
i am understanding though the composite thought shared by you all. you (proverbial you) appreciate more someone who is going to grow with you, not this late in the game try to implement a new game plan. but what if the format could be improved upon?? or no! what i run into more often is brothas that resent telling me what the plan is…. according to 900 im supposed to ask (correct me if i am wrong) how can i get in to fit in… how can i be down? and i know that cant be right. cause i been there, done that… and the response is cliched.
CeeCee is there a way to Go-paperless w/everything…is this possible? yea. its called a PALM.
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
ARed, you got mail.
WDynamite, thanks honey.
Southern Saying = I’m about to get my hair did. The first time I heard this I looked at her and asked are you serious. She couldn’t understand what I was asking.
Waiting on the phone call for me to leave this camp!
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
Mo - Guilty! I do say “hella” but I fought it for years. No one in LA was saying it at the time it was a bay thing (N. Cal). But I went to college in N. Cal and “hella” just STUCK. Ugh. LOL.
I also say “like,” “duh” and “dude.” And non-Cali folks say I sound like a valley girl. I DO NOT. LOL
mytwocents - Go to www.polelateaz.com. Happy spinning! LOL
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
ok, say you’ve done all this changin, all in the name of compromise……then you and ol girl, or dude, don’t work out…..do you trash the Heathcliff Huxtable sweaters, and revert back to white tees and timbs? hell, by the time you’ve come into your own, you’ve compromised so much, you don’t even know who you are, anymore…..then the cycle repeats…..you meet someone else, and you start compromising all over again!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Well M’ i had to look up what ‘pheromone cent’. Thanks, learn something new everyday.
mytwocents that was more than a lil change…your monicky should be ‘as-a-matter-of-fact’. thanks for coming out of Lurkersville.
By BLOW ME
January 23, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Ok what are we talking about again? I am lost….lmao!!!
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Beautiful I am cracking upo over here about your baby asking his dad why mami got a wee wee on her phone! he may try to take your ceel to school for show and tell! LOL
Willie this NY girl is coming for ya bruh! LOL
900 You so nasty! LOL I got the matching bra/panty set too!
No I am not putting down the brothas nor doing PR for The Caucasian Persuasion. I was merely stating something that happened in my past. I feel the disdain with men of all races. Now because I have dated mroe brothas than anything I have a higher percentage of incidents with them…but equal the feelings.
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
ARed big difference between don’t mind doing it and loving it (Think about the finish and you’ll have your answer). But yeah you right in a sense. It’s a lot of 2.5’s out there. And we are only talking about the SO not some random Joe.
By mqew
January 23, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
….And I lend to you.. to the people that think that if change is not “inspired by God” himself that it’s not real. Fake it until you Make it! Is that on your list Page. I mean if we’re talking change, I’m sure it’s for the betterment of that person sooo… no one is going to be perfect, but so what? Do nothing?
By eyes
January 23, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Sorry for the triple post…lol….@Willie D. thanks for the input
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Sexyleggs my condolences…good to see your loyal.
By LOSER
January 23, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
DATE IN YOUR RACE!!
Stop mixing..it’s nothing better than a pure african america man/woman.
We are mixed enough! Why is everyone afraid to be themselves!?!??!
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Staceye It is all cool. I believe that our identities are a synthesis of our race/ethnicity, gender, class, region, etc. It makes sense to me that a person from a mixed heritage would be more prone to date across many different boundaries…you think??? What is good is knowing who you are and why you choose to express that person in your lifestyle choices, be it friendships, significant relationships, etc.
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Willie D….Inner Slut come out…LOL…I gots to use that one! LMAO!
Yall lay off the southern slang..lol…”It is what it is”….lol
By abc
January 23, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Good quote, here goes, things religious certainly count among the things that are rediscovered constantly, reinforcing who you really are. It’s philosophy, art, people, places, things, experiences and love all in one place. The passage from Romans that you quote has to do with not bending to human will and convention, but instead being who and what God created you to be.
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Lulu - Great post on your 10:45. That’s exactly why I’m not into bad boys and thugs. You might grow out of that stuff eventually, but if you relapse we’d be a terrible match.
So I focus on folks who’s ideals and values are closer to my own and didn’t learn life lessons from the “streets.” There are still plenty of parents raising their children and doing a good job.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
LOL ARed. I just had never heard anyone say “on yesterday” before.
Jazzy, I have never heard anyone in San Francisco or other places that I have been to say that, which is why I thought it was unique to me. Thanks for the welcome.
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Cee
Balancing emotional dependency/clinginess. - Well I may be breakin a Man Law on this one cuz I know lots of dudes will complain about it but who cares about them. I dont see this one as all that bad, you just need to chose wisely as to whom you focus this energy on, ya dig. Make sure he’s worthy and really into you, cuz a man like myself likes feedback boo I need that!
How not to be independantly ingnorant. Help is okay. -great one, we all need to do this. Learning, training & Continuously improving is vital to success.
Listen and observe more & more, with hold a comment when applicable… -Cool, this will help us w/ keepin the arguments to a min.
…how to keep my car cleaner and paper work more organized. is there a way to Go-paperless w/everything…is this possible? every woman I know needs help with this. Your car is more important to you than banana peels and tea bags on the dash board! PDA’s are the future I think its time we both invest in one that can also view attachements… no more paper.
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Willie - Folks who don’t mind doing it still get the big finish.
I don’t love doing dishes, but I don’t mind doing it. Either way, the dishes still get clean. LOL
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Cemeeli
That is cool, I plan to be here for a minute with the expception of a road trip to the ATL for my things…well, now you know what fermone scent means-lol. Ani’t nothing like those deep chocalate brothers-the best scent of them all-lol!!
By Rell
January 23, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
@staceye..we are saying the same thing…i had to break it down for a friend the same way…..but in a nutshell that is why some men and i do mean some cheat
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
twocents…..’preshate your input…..and don’t worry bout bein’ outta the loop, shoot, I stay in my own lil world, bout the only place that makes sense to me, anyway…….prolly why my Island in Second Life is vacant…….
By Sunshine
January 23, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
LOSER There is NO SUCH THING as a “pure” African American, period!!! Stop the ignorance!!!
By teresa
January 23, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
@Beautiful cosigning 9:50
By Poppa Grande
January 23, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
Good Morning, all
SexyLeggs Keep your head up.
By mqew
January 23, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
2C Not sure if your comment was to me but, I’ll answer. I don’t give a rats azz about a freaking sweater, tees and tims, doo-rags, high top fade, braids (or corn rolls I think) second thought, as long as yo azz aint ova 30 with them. My point is, superficial/external or veneer aside if it matters that it’s an issue (a viable issue), and it’s a committed relationship, CHANGE.
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Mo lol @”tryin to patrol these parts…” I guess I can start calling you Allied Barton Security.
By Rell
January 23, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
@ared…i am waiting on your number…lol
so ared does not like doing it but it will get done with the right person…and trust he will feel that you dont like doing it….just going thru the motions…and that is wack…..so you dont believe in pleasing your mate?
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Sexyleggs..my prayers are out to you…
and that get ya hair did thing irkes my nerves as well..i was recently dating a white guy and he would say oh you going to get your hair did..it turned me off so bad i was like you don’t speak like that and neither do I so stop it..i don’t get my hair did..i have salon appts..silly tripe…
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Lady J I stole that from Rell, can’t take the credit for that one. But it fit so pefectly!!
ARed I gotcha but I still think we don’t quite see eye2eye yet. Think of it this way (trying hard not to be graphic). #2 will still bob and weave and duck at the finish. #3 has a bullseye. Gotta love that.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
DreamsMaterialize trying to patrol these parts…so far so good. All seems well today. LOL I guess I can put my lil scooter away. Plus I wasnt scaring nobody, kinda like campus police at an HBCU…not 5-0 but 2.5-0
By MrHughes
January 23, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
I think this change topic is interesting because I have gone through a lot of changes for my signifigant other recently. The catalyst for change is the person in the wrong having the Will To Change. The problem is that most people are stubborn and what to be what they’ve always been. Now, I am much more interested in being a partner not only in terms of economics, but also in terms of house work and doing the work to maintain the relationship. I take better care of myself emotionally and what I need instead of relying on my partner to fix it for me. So, change is possible. But, the person that you want to do the changing has to see the value and reason for it to actually happen.
As for the interracial thing… I’ve never been one to limit myself in terms of race. On the other hand, I’ve never been one to chase women, so the vast majority of the women I have dated have shown interest in me. For some reason black women don’t show too much interest in me. But, I have no idea why and don’t care. I’m happy and I like my life as is.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
sexyLeggs sorry to ‘read’ about your loss. take care of yourself, chica. no shame in cryin, even at work. break down, gurl. dem ppl at the job have something they need off they chest too. trust.
2CANPTGAME grin OK. in the name of compromise i have lived that what you wrote…but i evolved into an eclectic individual. my deathless individuality has me pulling from every experience. so to answer the question posed: keep the polo sweater but toss the argyle one, cause its dated. :) wherever you find yourself at the end of the relationship, whateva still resonates with you… keep it. no matta what it is.
in a minute abc gonna say that ‘Do you’ orginated with Paul. LOL
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
Das - No, no you dont have to ask him. You Let Him KNOW what your Requirments are in order for him to BE w/ you. You simply state “In order to be with me, a man must _ _ for us to be 2gether, cuz this is what I’m about so if you trying to be with me then you have to be about this as well”
I know it sounds the same as “what YOU need to do is __ _, cuz you aint doing this and that right, you need to be more like _ _ & this/ that….” but it aint, trust me. You dont have to read him his rights in order for him to know what you need from him.
Staceye -as long as you still hate us all cool, I guess.
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Rell - Reading is fundamental boo. Read my 10:10 again. Pleasing ones mate is the exact reason “2.5” find enjoyment out of the act. They enjoy getting to the big finish and enjoy getting the Bernie Mac “good job!” LOL
Willie - I get it now. Thanks! LOL!!!!!
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Staceye, thanks. Lost Nana 2 months ago. I wished it was my crazy a$$ ex-mother-in-law! (LOL)
mqew, thank you.
Blogsville residents are so nice!
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
Now y’all knows dat down Souf de gets they hair did or else dey fixin’ to get it did…jes’ lak deys gets dey picture made…
By Beautiful
January 23, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Staceye gurl, i don’t need the judge in CA on my azz anymore than she already is. OKay! lol.
teresa you funny as h3ll! lol. everytime i read your post, i die laughin’. did some1 say meet & greet at the trap? lmao. i’m in! some1 else want to chime in? wink, wink.
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Rell you talking about me? LOL But I am not Brazilian…other things…but not Brazilian! LOL
No I do not prefer anything…I see men as men, not a color. I prefer 6Ft and taller, handsome, educated, intelligent, employed, D&D free, SINGLE, STRAIGHT, humorous, No kids and adventurous and of course spritual. But when it comes to race…I could care less what he is.
Sunshine Thank you. It seems that Pure African American is an oxymoron. Nobody in the US is pure anything. The term African American for anyone whose great-grandparents on down makes no sense. Just because your skin is brown does not make you African. Your family has been here for hundreds of years…you are American and/or Black. How come White people never say they are Irish-American (example)? They just say White. But Blacks folks feel the need to belong to another country. Newsflash…some Africans in Africa do not like Black Americans and are offended that some call themselves AA.
By Rell
January 23, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
@willid…as told to me…ALL WOMEN HAVE THAT SLUT IN THEM…but they are only a slut to whom they choice..everyman they date or even marry will get it out of them….so remember men if the toes dont curl like monkey paws then she is faking….LMAO
Ared…can i curl your toes
By Tee
January 23, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
I have tried to change in the past for whom I was with at the time and neither time did it work out. I did quit smoking and I can contribute that to my boyfriend at the time but as far as me changing to be what they wanted…couldn’t do it and that is why I’m single to this day. I know I’m wonderful and I won’t settle and I don’t expect anyone to either.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Is anyone going to Superbowl this year?
By Rell
January 23, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
i encourage all brothers to peep out the brazilgirls.com…it will help you keep things focus…lol, trust me you will check it daily like the paper..well at least i do….
By Maurice
January 23, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
OK, so I’m a brotha that ain’t packin’ all that pipe but happens to be down on a sistah got a ‘hole like a mayonniase jar.
What’s a brotha ta do ta keep his dignity if he loves this girl? Guess I got a white relative somewhere in the closet.
By Tazzee
January 23, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
morning folks!
m’karyl good to read you, I love your 10:31 post.
By pisces08
January 23, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
@Rell. Thanks
By teresa
January 23, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
What if the woman has the 9-5 and the man holds the house down from A-Z and does like some landscaping or carpentry on the side. How does the room feel about that?
By BINFORD2K8
January 23, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Staceye
LOL @ your 10:29 post.
By Beautiful
January 23, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
i’m willing to change. what would be nice is if we would go to dinner or something and talk about what changes would strengthen our relationship. if it doesn’t benefit us being together, then it may not be a good idea.
By Tazzee
January 23, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
SexyLeggs sorry to hear about your loss. I hope you get to go home soon. In the interim, blog through your grief.
By mytwocents
January 23, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
(See, y’all are growing on me - multiple posts.) Maybe the trick is to take the suggestions for change w/ a grain of salt. So yes, you should have a few nice suits, button downs & slacks. But let’s not get crazy…there’s never a reason to banish the Tims from your closet no matter what she says! I think most of us gals like multifaceted men. Just gotta know the right time and the right place for it all. Willie, the visuals, you are terrible! Comical, tho lolol.
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
m’karyl, thanks for the laugh. You summed it up perfectly.
DasV, you know when you get news like this, you can’t help but cry at your desk. Holding it back only makes your chest hurt. So I did what I had to do.
JazzyOne/Poppa Grande thank you.
Ok, anybody has jokes?
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Rell me’n’some folk are thinking of hitting Rio or Dom R something this year…
Ms.Eye I wish more black women dated outside of their race…
them chinese food Bishes can be just as mean as a sista at times..
And hell, most of them African folks think we’re nothing more than lazy iggas any way, so F/K what they think.
DasV Hey…
Real Talk…Sisters with Mocha complexion are some of the most beautiful women hands down.
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Staceye I will save the black history lesson for Feb 1st but I can tell you this if you are: A. Black-you need to read history so you can understand the need to identify. B Not Black- learn the history so that you can better understand. Finally, I am not sure how many white people you know but quite a few I know have traced their “roots” to know exactly when their family got off the boat at Ellis Island. So while they dont moniker around with the title of Irish American..they will and do identify with their roots. What I find funny are the “black” people who knock the other people who do. For the record..up until the mid 60’s with the surge of “black pride” if you called someone of African descent black you would get your teeth knocked out. The term they used was “Negro” That was a freebie Like I said the history is there read up before you speak up.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
900 yea. that sounds too close to ‘nikka you need to do this, cause (suck teeth) thats what i want… nikka.’ LOL
your advice is for me not to ask, but its how i do…. help me better word: “i like how you do, and i wanna do it witcha. tell me what i need to do to be down.”
which really is change, or compromise. what do i need to change in my MO to better fit what you got going on??
if a woman were to ask, or put it so severely blunt like that…. she runs the risk of sounding desperate. when really she is objectively weighing the possible of an ‘us’.
men never say ‘i need’ outside of the bedroom. isnt there anything else outside of the bedroom??
i am open to compromise, and on some days even change if i knew it was going to go somewhere postive and not land me in the recycled loophole of dating disappointments.
so i flip this change coin and ask: why the hellz should I??
By Poppa Grande
January 23, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Alvin Rio is a must do at least once. If you haven’t, it is an experience. I was shocked when the “ladies of the evening” actually had business cards…lol
Dr.Kym I agree. I remember those House of Pain cats proudly showing off their irish heritage. (Coat of Arms on the cover of their CD.)
I actually just call everyone colored. The word human is just a variation of that any way. Hue + man.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
hey Al
By Y2 Lovely
January 23, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
Maurice, rotflmao-spewing milk out my nose. Boy you can’t talk about your woman that way. Even with yo compact conduit (plumbing term from my husband), you can still be a man in many other ways. But maybe your girl needs to clean up her act a little.
Give a little, get a lot.
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Alivin You going to see my people in DR huh?
Kym I know the history of our people…but I still prefer to be called Black. That is just my feeling.
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
SexyLeggs
Peace be with you sistah girl…your strength to endure will come as you process this loss…stay focused on the love that was a blessing to share, to receive and to have in rememberance…this is a very human experience and you are human…let God be at the helm and you will be guided safely back into port…start by evoking the fond memories and see how soon you will smile…
By m'karyl
January 23, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Peace out until manana!!!!!!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
900K thanks i’ll take those in stride. Yeah i’ll check into PDA. I guess i was a wanna be 5+ years ago when i had one but not for real. you know never used.
M’ LOL…it’s is really cool to read you agian.
DasV…wondering … what is it with men and the Just Ask sub….hmmm
By teresa
January 23, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Little man Maurice you need find a better class of woman. You might need to make a change yourslef. I don’t think dating a girl with obvious issues is wise.
Feel sorry for you, but just got one thing to say - PUMP IT UP !!
By Lucille Willoughby
January 23, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
People change. But you can’t make ‘em.
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Staceye it is apparent from the bs you just spouted on here you are truly lacking in any knowledge, while you think it is cute to spout that bs it also shows you have to be one self-loathing “negro”-black whateva term works for you to think that there is something wrong with a person of African decent identifying with their heritage. The people who came before you are what made you who you are today..such as you are. A tired, dumb, whining, self-loathing, negro. Maybe if you spent a little more time reading about your “heritage.” you would find out more about yourself. AGHHHH
By Rell
January 23, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
@alvin..then you need to hit the site player….get you an address and stick your bid in..so when you touchdown you will have a lil something waitin on you
@fishman08…ya welcome….and if you check the bottom of the page with the pics..they have link to the african page and the carib page…all i have to say about DR women…they have azz like WHOA!!!
By abc
January 23, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
As if white people care about their German, English or Irish ancestry. They don’t, much. Some Italian people do, but again, not much. They don’t restrict themselves to cultural boundaries several generations removed, that they scarcely understand and don’t even identify with.
Why should anyone put such boundaries up for themselves? You are not your gender, ethnicity, national origin. You’re not the neighborhood in which you grew up. You’re the result of what you experience and how you interact with and react to those experiences. If you do so through living up to expectations created by those boundaries, you make yourself less. The passage from Romans quoted earlier speaks to that.
By David
January 23, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
Like George Clinton said, “People keep waitin’ on a change aint got sense enough to come in out of the rain”!
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
2C Do you think the market rebounding will last or was that just a knee-jerk because of what the Fed did? Interest rates aside the real #’s still show we got big problems.
Rell cosign 12:10
ARed does that move you back to #2 now.
2cents Welcome to the fray. Stick around and feel free to jump in on the sidebar topics as well. I’m guessing you about a 2.75. real close. lol!!
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Staceye; Kym -Wait a minute!! This is a dead serious conversation that you’ve started and needs to be discussed properly so please talk-it without name callin each other out! Terms like black or afro-amer/ african-american can be seen as okay do many different folks. Don’t get caught up in the words… please be easy when touchin on this sudject.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
LOLOLOL ROTFL @ Kym! wow
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Just call me by my name and we won’t have any problems..
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
…let God be at the helm and you will be guided safely back into port… I really like that! Thanks.
I’m goint to blog through…
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
teresa I am so glad you said that…PUMP IT UP !!
Maurice once the folk finish with their surgery bloober, 9s’n’10s will be come a common size…Just stay patience LOL
Thanks God for small blessings, I don’t think too many men are looking forward to having a knife around manhood
By Daily Lurker
January 23, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
You have to do things you’ve never done before to get the things you’ve never had before
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
900 I will call her exactly what I think she is..and I dont give a merry damn what she or anyone else thinks about it.
By Marice
January 23, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Y2 Lovely I was glad to make u laugh but I’m slightly serious. My lady is a big woman in that dept. and it makes me feel like I ain’t “make her toes curl”. I’m hittin’ it like Hank but she don’t know I’m there.
I truly think that people are sized for each other and that’s part of the physical and mental matching you have to do to get it right. Maybe I do need a change and learn my lesson.
Givin’ up on this big girl.
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Poppa Grande That’s what I’ve heard…Besides, it’s time for me to explore this big world of ours.
Rell Will do once I get home, thank for the info!!
Ms.Eye yep, the DR is next on my list of things to do, LOL
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Dr. Kym, another WOW! I have to agree with 900K, watch your words to each other. Don’t forget who we are, where we came from and on whose backs got broke to get us where we are today!
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
Das help me better word: “i like how you do, and i wanna do it witcha. tell me what i need to do to be down.” -well Im not sure what “you do” means in this but. Simply stating ” I would Really like to do it witcha” always sounds good to a man. The part where you say “tell me what I need to do…” can be left out, since your intentions are clearly stated, this info will auto-come out. if a woman were to ask, or put it so severely blunt like that…. she runs the risk of sounding desperate. -Good point which is why I say make a statement rather than question when possible. Stating blunt things to men still leaves the lady looking in control, not desperate. Asking too many questions can come off as weak/ desperate, out of control/ lost ya dig?
Cemeeli -yeah i had the old Palm, never used it though. I’m going to get a smart phone/ PDA all-n-one joint and I’m sure it will have me relying less on other things. I see you liked my new book, care to join the “900k book club”?
By DasV
January 23, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
CeeCee we are on the wrong blog site for answers to real questions. here, they more concerned with women in brazil then whats in they own backyard….
i am sitting thinking that the best approach is: if i dealt with you and we broke up, are you gonna leave me with more than a broken heart?? if yea, a disease… i need to keep it movin… if yea, a different approach…. it might be worth the risk. i’uno. where is TRUTH? my pa was up in here earlia and i was feelin a little what him was sayin… guess i need a man to come sit with me and break it all down…. and since he’s my brother i can have my guard down and really listen……
on a side note has anyone ever bought meat from the Tyson distribution center?? whats the deal??
By Rell
January 23, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
@kym
DAYUM….bench ya mad huh?
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
David yeah…but dude was on some other ISH when he said that…LOL
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Blog Bar needs to open right about now. Killians please!!!
Similac & 1908 Popcorn on you today, And get Shug a drink while you at it. Top shelf for her today.
By Hotlanta
January 23, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Stacye all black men are not fully loaded like a Cadillac Escalade. That is a myth just like they are saying Bill Clinton is a black man because he smoked weed, cheated on Hillary and played the saxaphone on Arsenio Hall. I find this insulting to black men everywhere. Especially the ones who are as Spike Lee says “Doing the Right Thing”.
No you can’t change anyone, Yall remember from the movie “A Thin Line Between Love & Hate when homegirl met this guy. She dressed him, fix his teeth the whole 9 yards then he thought he was toooo good to be with her and he left her. If he is raggedy ladies leave his raggedy behind out there.
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
KYM wow..and Im never at a loss for words…I don’t understand what the problem is with her post she said call her black…someon eplease en-lighten me…
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Sexyleggs i was gonna offer you a snack but i remembered you don’t do snacks…well laughing is always good med.
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
good post hotlanta…
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Marice…jump up on the ceiling fan and jump down in it..betcha she’ll feel it then..CTFU…
By mqew
January 23, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Willi D Ummm, can I get some Champipple?
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Willie - I never said I was talking about me! I could be a #1. LOL
But I would still say there are 2.5s out there. They act like #3’s but they don’t go for the “big finish.” LOL
Tell me this…does it really make that much of a difference? The point of the act has been accomplished. Why do you care where the aftermath ends up? LOL!!!!
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
rell stop it…lol…I read your post and bust out laughing…LMAO! Comedy up in here everyday!
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Jazzy it was not her post of call her black. it was her ignorant azz post of why should the moniker of African-American be use “white people dont do it” what the hell should anyone care what white people use ohh because white people dont do it that means no one else should either? Ignorance! just plain FOOLISHNESS
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
LOL Willie, I can’t order the popcorn because I am still waiting on Mo to order the bulk supply of vaseline and it looks like the blog needs it!
Rell why are you so quick to use the B word to Kym?
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Shug …what Gray said…
DasV i’m already knowing this…there are a few that i snatch from on the reg…
900K book clubs are for READERS!
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
heyal I need some popcorn on that one and some Yack and a spritz of coke…I mean some popcorn with Movie theater butter okay?!
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Yes, thanks for letting me half top shelf today. Can I have a double please w/my bud on the side. Most definitely!!!
Off-topic about to do research on investing in a Pearl Blackberry. Can you point out some of the pros and cons for me?
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Rell yes dumbazz I am upset.
By BLOW ME IS OFFICIALLY BLOWED
January 23, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Wow…..can you change someone?….leads to…dating out of you race… to….Bill Clinton sleeping in chuch..to Racial war….
I am BLOWED! wow!
Can somebody bring this back?
ATTENTION ALL
If you dated someone and they snored and farted in their sleep would this be a deal breaker?
lmao! No seriously answer the question…lmao
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
LOL @ Kym!
Where is Mo with that vaseline?!
LadyJ girl, you know I am constantly being silly, just like on Sunday night with ole boy who said he would wash your dishes, do your laundry and pay your bills…lol
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
Cee -I see your point, but if we reading a health/ fitness book then we will have to get physical, right? See Same thing…
Kym -I dont care if you go at her, but Im sayin if your going to discuss my background, my people then discuss it! No need to use the terms of my heritage as darts in your argument. Im not takin sides w/ y’all 2. That girl dont need my help, trust. I just don’t feel like gettin upset by you or anyones comments when it comes to my ancestors!
By DasV
January 23, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
900K fingers in the air snapping atcha i dig. make a statement. dont ask a question. see thats something i can walk away with and actually use. thanks, bruh. kisses
now glancing at my watch i see the customary blog-fight is right on time. settlin down, lookin for the pop-cone
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
LOL @ Rell and Kym
Blow Me…lmao that is how the blog is! That’s almost as funny as Demi flying around the city with a cape on..lol
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
DasV you get tired of what’s IN your backyard after while, LOL
Jazzy I could use same Yach myself…
By melo
January 23, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
Dr.Kym aka Relationship Expert,why u mad gir? Is it rough at the office today?U entitled to ur opinion,so is Staceye (im gonna pay by credit card to get into this fight, if that becomes necessary)
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Kym by any chance are you still on that Yahoo group? I think you and Blue Kolla were the moderators last time I was on. Just wondering if people still posted on there.
By kinderbabe
January 23, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
well, i see the ish has hit the fan once again. you all have to get a hobby or some type of constructive outlet and i mean soon…b/c obviously this ain’t it…lol.
By Rell
January 23, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
@kym….dumbazz….me…lol….if i could, i would come over and kiss your senstive azz right now…lol
@page……yea……just page….lol
By Maurice
January 23, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Jazz* it ain’t like that but we have done some of her khama sutra and tantric stuff, you know, real wiggle and squim kinda sh!t. It’s all good fun but sometimes a man gotta know he’s takin’ his lady to that ultimate limit. I ain’t into the 9s and 10s but I can bore in with a 5 stroke.
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Wait a minute now. I’ll help open the bar up but I aint Bartending. I’ll be sitting in the players corner with a few WLB members a Killians Red and some popcone.
ARed Don’t play wit me, you already told us bout the soup coolers. With those I know you aint #1. I’ll give you the 2.5 (see I can compromise). But we’ll need some independent verification.Rell certify her please.j/k
And with your statement Tell me this…does it really make that much of a difference? The point of the act has been accomplished. Why do you care where the aftermath ends up? You are relegating yourself to #2 status. Be all you can be and upgrade ya skills.lol
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
SexyLeggs it a great…it’s 4th after the 8800’s, 8525/tilt, blackjackII, then the pearl…it’s too small and has no touch sceen for me…and no keyboard for fast texting and emailing.
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
900 Who the hell are you to correct me or anyone else? I dont care if you take her side or not. I will discuss it in the exact emotion her foolish a* statement brought forth.
By Beautiful
January 23, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
If you dated someone and they snored and farted in their sleep would this be a deal breaker?
uh, no comment.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
LOL Melo I think Willie Dynamite is taking orders. ctfu
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
Beep…..beep…..beep…beep!!
I need all ya’ll to bacdaf&$up so the FEDEX man can bring in this huge box of vaseline! He is trying to back da truck up and ya’ll blocking the driveway… WHEW!! My work is never done
Willie Dynamite Can a girl PULEEZE get a nice shot of Patron!!!
Page1908 There you are girl….cause I can see its about to get ugly. I dont get paid to patrol so I am gonna sit at the Blog Bar and chill! :0)
DreamsMaterialize care to have a shot with me??
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
Alvin and thats real..im fallin’ back on this one…
By Rell
January 23, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
MESSAGE
here, they more concerned with women in brazil then whats in they own backyard�.
MESSAGE
DAYUM a brother cant have choices in 2008….BUT we can tear each other to shred for your enjoyment…. * out of here with that
By Poppa Grande
January 23, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Alvin Rio was a blast. I’ve been to S. America twice. Once for Rio and another time to Argentina. (Argentina was more of a relaxing trip. Expect for the fact that Dubya (Pres. Bush) had to show down there while we were there.)
My wife liked the shopping in Argentina. Leather is extremely cheap there.
Now, I went to Rio before my wife and I met. It was memorable. If you go, remember to be safe. There is alot down there that you can bring back that you don’t want.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
900K you made me spray grapefruit reading your reply. dang it!!!
DasV/Page when i finish this grapefuit can i have just a lil of the popcorn on carmel please…sour, sweet and salt are a good mix
By teresa
January 23, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
@Alvin…I see you
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Willie lmao # popcone
Kinderbabe lol @ constructive outlet. I think they could maybe help you do some lesson planning or something like draw shapes or something…lol
Beautiful LOL @ no comment. This one dude I knew used to do that but he didn’t know he was doing it. I never said anything to him. He also used to grind his teeth along with the farting and snoring.
By Y2 Lovely
January 23, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
Maurice, …can’t stop laughing,…can’t breathe.. Where did you get this stuff, fool. She ain’t felt you coz she’s laughing too hard. That’s OK, Maurice, coz there’s other ways to make me blow…
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Page I think it is still linked to my yahoo account but I dont think anything is posted except spam links.
By Sunshine
January 23, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Dr. Kym What gives you the right to argue against the way “american people of African descent” choose to identify themselves. I personally disagree with the term “African American” myself. I am 1/2 black, and 1/2 Native American/Irish mix. I consider myself multiracial or black. I do not identify with Africa. The majority of my ancestors were here before any other race! Let people be who they choose to be. On another note…why do we as “black” people still believe in “one-droppism”. For those unfamiliar with the term, one-droppism is the belief that anyone with “one drop” of black blood is black. How ridiculous is it that we’re still buying into this concept, which was originated during slavery, to hold us down????
By Rell
January 23, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
@willid…..i am still waiting on her answer to my question…i want to curl those toes…lol
@kinder…i agree all this hate is getting old…lets have a LOVE movement…lets all meet at the trap and jump this thing off..lol
By melo
January 23, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
BlowMe, this is one of my problems.She has a good sense of smell and chasstises me often.I now use the stealth bombers instead!! if she come in the room and sniffs,sniffs and says i smell some funky, i simply say it must be the trash or diapers somewhere..pretend to look and leave the room.
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Page!!!
Melo did you check Roy prancing around the ring on Sat. night…LMAO!
By Gina
January 23, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
From my experience, people resort to name calling when they don’t have the intellect or vocabulary to express their opinion.
Kym, you may have more credibility with your comments if you weren’t so condescending and insulting. You probably had valid points but the way you are wigging out and insulting people who simply see things differently, discredits you. Yeah, you will probably come back with “I don’t care”, but if you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t comment/respond or get riled up.
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Alvin perhaps it’s me, but your post left me confused. Your first sentence says it’s great, but you finish it off with 3 negatives???
No need for anyone to get comfortable, this blog fight has lost its punch. It’s over, go back to whatever it was you were doing…SCRAM!
By DasV
January 23, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Rell aint nobody even said nothing to you today… but a’ight! i will engage. you are talkin no! promotin women of brazil as if that is a viable exploration at having a relationship, when errrybody know that ITP and OTP is serious concern with this blog…. much less out the country.
on the other hand, i am not frontin at keeping the peace, with a passive-aggressive approach like some. i am enjoying the fray, and aint shame to say it.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
LOLOL ROTFLMAOOOOOOOOOO Mo girl, u’s a fool! Willie said he would help you unload the vaseline.
Cemeeli lol now, I have a craving for a candy apple and some kettle corn.
By melo
January 23, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert on a serious note, have u been able to use the dna testing to get a better sense of where ur people came from in Africa? Plz share if u dont mind.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
CEEcee clean that grapefruit up, gurl. heeheeehee. i gotchu some pop-cone and sour patch kids. that set you right! trust.
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
MO lol…
By mytwocents
January 23, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
For real Willi, I’m thru w/u! I was over here mindin my biz, doin my lil calculations, had just carried the one and there u go - peeped over the cubicle walls and blew me right up! hahaaaaa. That info exceeds the 2 cents I planned to share…hmph But pls note, I kinda feel ARed too b/c every customer is not necessarily gettin served from the same menu of options. Food for thought.
Maurice SO Concerned. If I’m Mayo, I better not EVER find this blog. But since u put her out there, tell her to do 3 sets of Kegels and call us in the mornin’.
BlowMe At least the crowd’s more enthused about the topic than they were @ 9. Now where else can we go with it???
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
ROTFLOL @ MO wit her Vaseline shipment on FEDEX truck…
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Poppa Grande trust, Imma fool, but I am far from foolish…I am like, Thanks goodness for Magnums LOL
And I plan on checking out Argentina next year, if all goes well.
By Rell
January 23, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
@PG…he does not have to hit S America for that…hell he can hit peachtree and bring something home he did not want…..folks kill me with that….
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Kym the last time I went on there the group wasn’t on my list of groups anymore, so I didn’t know if it had been deleted. Maybe it wouldn’t open because of all of the spam links and sometimes stuff won’t open because of my spam filter on my laptop.
LadyJ wink lol
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
Sunshine Who the hell is she or you for that matter to say that people who do identify that way are wrong? I am quite a mixture of all different races and colors and I take great pride in each one, and cherish the history and legacy of each one. But I would never sit up here in a public forum and justfy my own self-loathing with the bs statement Staceye made. That is a product of her own f up inner psyche.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Page1908 Chica I am tired! I had to do something cause my pressha was up (as old folk say)!! LMAO!! The FedEx man is now propositioning me like old dude at Flambeaux! *I’ll pay yo bills, wash yo car..” Hey Lady J
Thanks to WillieD for helping the FEDEX man. :0)
By melo
January 23, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
ITP and OTP is serious concern with this blog lol DasV A*(pic) watching is a favorite passtime with some lame dudes.Some get broke charging their debit cards just to see ppl fvck on sx channle instead of going out there to get ur own.Sick.
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Page you had to bring up Carmel Apple..OHG I been feenin for those for two weeks…lawd help me…i like em coverred with the peanuts..wish I could find some right now….
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
SexyLeggs I am spoiled by them Dayum touch sceens and easy thumb texting…those are the only big negative…and it too Dayum cute of a phone to be manly…that’s why I place the phone 4th.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
LOL @ Sunshine ‘one droppism’ …I’m sorry i know you didn’t mean for that to be amusing, but when i read it i couldn’t help but think about how we create words. I see your point though…
By Hotlanta
January 23, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
To all of those who don’t want to be black, AA or whatever. Whenever they start passing out checks for reporations I will gladly take yours. We will become black, AA or whatever, whenever it is convenient. Just like a white person will all of a sudden become Jewish or European, a Hispanic will become Mexican and a Japanese will become Chinese. Like the late, great perm doctor himself said, “Say it Loud I am BLACK and I am Proud”.
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
yall keep talking about paying some bills…yall know I get paid once a month and dec. 21st seem a century ago!!! LMAO…J going start taking some donations…the 30th can’t get here fast enough! LOL
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Rell dude, it’s the same any where you go…risk is risk..Knowing me, I am too cheap to pay for it, I am just going to have some fun, relax and then chill, with some spanish mommies, LOL
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
LOL Mo girl, you are silly! LOL @ LadyJ’s old azz dude at Flambeaux.
By Maurice
January 23, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
mytwocents she’s not likely to be on-line, she prolly grocery shoppin’ but your advice worth at least $1.59. btw, what’s a Kegel exercise?
I guess you’d call me a good-lookin’ buck coz we all got our strengths and weakness. But we all go a little crazy sometimes.
By kinderbabe
January 23, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
page yeah girl. i’m about to post a list of hobbies up on this piece…lol. glad i take myself seriously enough not to take this seriously…lol.
rell any suggestion is better than what’s going on now…lol…but since i am truly a peace girl and not a piece girl, i’ll pass on the “trap.”;)
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
Jazzy is there a good place out here that makes Carmel Apples? Sometimes those candy places in the mall have some really good ones. Once place in San Diego used to have some bomb ones that they made fresh. You could choose chocolate or whatever you want. I know Cold Stone (do they have that out here?) makes a carmel apple ice cream that is yummylicious. I think I saw some generic ones at Sam’s Club, but I never tried theirs.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Page1908, Lady J and Kinderbabe..do ya’ll remember Big Swole that was holding up the balcony area on the stairs?? Lookin like a puffed up Riley from the Boondocks!! LMAO!!!!
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Das - thanks for layin a wet one on me baygirl! back@ya! I think you may need to join the book club.
Cee - grapefruit juice huh? We might be able to use that too, bring it w/ you to the book club meetin.
Kym - I am not correcting you at all lady, it was just they way you came off at first that caught me. It aint my fight though… Easy
Blow -They on here bombin on ya sis where you at??!!! you let them fools smoke yo cuzin aint you aint gon do nothin!
By Lady J
January 23, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Everyone have a great evening! Peace!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
…. hey MO is it time to start singing those Ole Negro Hymns?!
Iiiiii got a feeeling everything’s gonna be auiiigghhht…Oohhh freedom over me….
Well…you wouldn’t think we just celebarted MLK idea of unisom only 2 days ago in this piece.
By Maurice
January 23, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Y2 Lovely and I betcha are, my lady and I’ve explored many things sexual but it’s mostly for her. Me, I’m mostly a git wid it and hit it kinda man but i’m changin’ some. My eyes have been opened some and I have changed.
Right now I’m gonna keep the radar scope on and find a woman more my size. It’s like Wendy’s - some like it Single, some Double and a few holdin’ out for a Triple (Alvin, don’t be lyin’).
I’m lookin’ for a Single girl and we will get seriously bizzay.
By melo
January 23, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
The term African-American is dumb in sme ways coz it is just so general.It was just derived becoz of a people’s need to identify.I think society should come up with more generic terms and people can choose what fits them best.They call me African american too, but i am not.Im sure STACEYE is in that category coz she has hinted at her mixed background…indian, english with black(not knowing where that black came from) Plz dont jump on Staceye like u’all jumped on Clarence. Jesse plz back off!! U are what u wanna be.Im proud of my mandingo,wide nosed central african ancestry tho!! (i’m spoiling for a fight,i told u)
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
LOL Kinderbabe. I think I am gonna make some lesson plans for QDT too, so send me your list! lol
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
Hotlanta you won’t see a reperations check in this lifetime..so ga’head hold ya breath on that…
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
Willie - It’s amazing what MLB dudes remember on this blog. LOL @ you remembering my soup coolers. I guess I’ll have to plead the fifth on which number I am but I have been told that I’m very good at certain things. And you guys know that’s one thing you won’t lie about. Too much to lose! LOL
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Cemeeli LOL @ Ole Negro Hymns lolol ctfu
MO lol @ Big Swole! Man, dude was on some serious ROIDS as swole as he was! Demi sounds like he is kinda swole too…lol
By melo
January 23, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
ARed are u out there?I got a bro hot on ur trail.Plz give him a chance.
By Jazzyone
January 23, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
8Page* not sure if there is a coldstones here wish there was!…I always got mine from Kroger..I know lame..but Ive been afraid to order them online becasue not sure if the apples are granny smith or golden delicous and not red apples can’t eat red apples…or if they are not bad with worms..
Krogers hasn’t had them in amin..hopefully i can find some if you do let me know…
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Page1908 there is a candy shop at the underground that sells very good candy, carmel, and peanut apples…I get my fix once a month
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
White people live in Africa too. African whites move to America all thie time. They have the right to call themselves African American too.
So call me Black!
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
I spoke my peace and I am done. Staceye and Sunshine and anyone else can call themselves the f*king purple people of Neptune 6 for all I give a damn, but dont sit there and justify that bs with some old *white people dont do this, white people dont do that.” Like all the world must follow the way of the white people.
By kinderbabe
January 23, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
page girl, you’re a mess…lol.
mo not big swole…lmao. all posted up and ish…knowing good and well nobody was checkin for his azz…lol.
ladyj just let me know when you want to schedule the next outing. sounds like february’s gonna be a busy month.:)
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
I’m tripping over here. Ya’ll got a nikka sweating tending this Bar. For the record I aint unloading no truck FEDX specially (down wit Big Brown).
Since the drinks flowing, the popcone popping can we get some music in this piece. DJ For Real I know you lurking bruh, hit us up with something.
900 Sit yo instigating Azz down and drank one with ya boi.
2cents you keep this up I might have to share some popcone with you. Yeah food for thought I like that. Here have some more!!!
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Maurice LOL…a regular reader I see.
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
900 as you can see I am not the one name calling. I just simply stated my opinion for what I prefer to be called and just because I do not agree with someone they have to result to name calling yet again. HMMMM…its funny to me though, how people who know nothing about you can judge you as a person! Typical! Luckily I have learned to laugh at people instead of letting them stress me. I wasn’t always this nonchalant. Life can do that to ya! I mean, you state an opinion and someone goes all PMS POSTAL for no reason it all. It’s ok to disagree with someone..but to resort to name calling and insulting someone’s intelligence is down right pathetic. But….am I calling the person pathetic, no. Just the reaction to a mere invocation of the 1st amendment! I never said that just because White people don’t identify with a certain country that we shouldn’t. Whatever floats your boat! But I speak for those want to be simply called American. Isn’t that what the whole Civil Rights Movement was about, equality? That is like when someone says she’s a pretty Black girl. Well, why can’t she just be a pretty girl…why throw race into it? I know that my ancestors came from Africa over some hundreds of years ago. But when I speak of my heritage…I can only speak as far back as Great-Grandparents because I know the countries that my relatives come from and I have met them. I could never be a “self-loathing Negro”. I love all races and nationalites because without them, I nor a lot of people would not exist if someone did not cross the race line.
Hotlanta that is what I was saying…I was debunking the myth.
Sunshime yet another great post!
Hotlanta I said that I am Black. I never denied that. I just said that I do think the term AA applied to me. In my opinion…an African American is an African person who is born in Africa then comes to the states and becomes a citizen, or their parent(s) are born in Africa and the child is born here.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
reparations?? puleeze. dem say: we let you run for president (again) and gave you a real chance this time…. thats it. aint gon be no more talk of 40 acres and a mule mess no more.
By BLOW ME IS OFFICIALLY BLOWED
January 23, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
900k I have not been paying attention. The recycled topic has me THROWED off…What is really good with all the race wars?? Way too heavy for my speed. My attention span isn’t that long at least not today to get into some TRIVIAL $hit….
Staceye Ya there? What’s been going on here sissy? <—as in sis
By mytwocents
January 23, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Maurice I think you’re toying w/ me, but I’ll play. For lack of a better way to break it down, it’ll help her tighten her ish up! She can do it in the cereal aisle, at the stoplight, even in the tub. Just google it, silly. SexyL I’ve had a Pearl for almost a year now. It is kinda girly and the color quality when u take pics is so-so. Plus it’s a qwerty keyboard (like ur computer as opposed to a regular phone)which makes it hard for ppl to adjust. I’m not techno savvy but this makes me feel like I’ve stepped it up. Page There’s a spot in Underground ATL w/ those kinds of tasty treats. I think they have chocolate dipped strawberries too.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
Jazzy Ok, Kroger has some? Ok I am gonna check them out. I have a recipe for some and I made some Carmel Apples for my friend’s bridal shower one year and they were off the chain. It’s probably easier to make them if you have the time, because at least you can make it how you want to. I am gonna have to see if there is a Cold Stone out here…they are so way bomb! Their headquarters is in Phoenix and I read somewhere it was on that best places to work list. Hmmmmm now I want some Jack in the Box…lol
Alvin ok, I will check out the place in the Underground. I don’t remember seeing it the times I have gone.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Page or we can chant the famous Rev. James may his soul r.i.p. piece…
Now we demand a chance to do things for ourserlf
“Say It Loud…I’m Black and I’m proud”!
Me, i’m about to turn my playlist back to Anthony Hamilton followed by some India…
By Awwwwwwww...Dayum
January 23, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Awwwwwwwww…Dayum, AJC!!
Been gone a minute and come back to read about blackonblack crimes.
raising fist into the air
Fight The Power
now moonwalking my a$$ on home
By Got that?
January 23, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
The term African-American should be considered an insult, but it’s not. What other group identifies itself with the continent of origin and not the country of origin. Technically, only those with dual citizenships should be referred to using the commonly accepted hyphenated name. If people want to reference their ancestral heritage, then they need to reference all of it, tracing their lineage to the individuals countries. Not just the part that’s convenient. F&ck a damn duck people, use your brains and don’t get all emotional. That’s what is keeping us down. We’re all mutts. There’s no one pure anymore. Deal with it. If you live here and pay taxes, you’re an American and the world hates you. They don’t care what you call yourself. They see you as American and hate you for it.
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Ared you can’t mention suop coolers on the blog and expect the dudes not to brand that into their memories! LOL
I co-sign your 3:09. People forget about the White Africans…I but they get looked at strangely for calling themselves that but in actuality..they are more AA than we are! LOL
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
What you talkin’ bout, melo?
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Got That you have stated a valid point!
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Staceye - I stand corrected. I assumed that you would retaliate with force but I made an azz out of… now thinkin back to you in that custom outfit Yeah its too late for me to be that serious.
Blow - I feel ya Ma, come get a drink w/ me over @ Willie D country azz bar. Yo lemme get 2 Straigh Henney’s no chaser SON!, tryin to get bent nah-meen
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
LOL @ pumping fist in the air pump, pump, pump, pump it up! lmao
By Rell
January 23, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
[DMX] Uhh.. UH! .. WHOO! [Chorus:] [DMX] Y’all gon’ make me lose my mind up in HERE, up in here Y’all gon’ make me go all out up in here, up in here Y’all gon’ make me act a FOOL up in HERE, up in here Y’all gon’ make me lose my cool up in here, up in here [DMX] If I gotsta bring it to you cowards then it’s gonna be quick, aight All your mens up in the jail before, suck my dick and all them other cats you run with, get done with, dumb quick How the f*** you gonna cross the dog with some bum s**? Aight There go the gun click, nine one one s** All over some dumb s**, ain’t that some s** Y’all n**** remind me of a strip club, cause everytime you come around, it’s like (what) I just gotta get my dick sucked And I don’t know who the f*** you think you talkin to but I’m not him, aight slim? So watch what you do Or you gon’ find yourself, buried next to someone else and we all thought you loved yourself But that couldn’t have been the issue, or maybe they just sayin that, now cause they miss you S** a n**** tried to diss you That’s why you layin on your back, lookin at the roof of the church Preacher tellin the truth and it hurts
[Chorus]
[DMX] Off the chain I leave n**** soft in the brain cause n**** still want the fame, off the name First of all, you ain’t rapped long enough to be f*** with me and you, you ain’t strong enough So whatever it is you puffin on that got you think that you Superman I got the Kryptonite, should I smack him with my dick and the mic? Y’all n**** is characters, not even good actors What’s gon’ be the outcome? Hmm, let’s add up all the factors You wack, you’re twisted, your girl’s a hoe You’re broke, the kid ain’t yours, and e’rybody know Your old man say you stupid, you be like, “So? I love my baby mother, I never let her go ” I’m tired of weak a* n**** whinin over p*** that don’t belong to them, f*** is wrong with them? They f*** it up for real n**** like my mans and them who get it on on the strength of the hands with them, MAN
[Chorus]
[DMX] I bring down rains so heavy it curse the head No more talkin - put him in the dirt instead You keep walin - lest you tryin to end up red Cause if I end up fed, y’all end up dead Cause youse a soft type n**** Fake up North type n**** Puss like a soft white n**** Dog is a dog, blood’s thicker than water We done been through the mud and we quicker to slaughter The bigger the order, the more guns we brought out We run up in there, e’rybody come out, don’t nobody run out Sun in to sun out, I’ma keep the gun out N**** runnin his mouth? I’ma blow his lung out Listen, yo’ a* is about to be missin You know who gon’ find you? (Who?) Some old man fishin Grandma wishin your soul’s at rest but it’s hard to digest with the size of the hole in your chest
[Chorus]
[DMX] Hold up! ERRRRRRRR! One.. two.. meet me outside meet me outside, meet me outside All my Ruff Ry-DERS gon’ meet me outside meet me outside, meet me outside All my big ball-ERS gon’ meet me outside meet me outside, meet me outside All my fly lad-IES gon’ meet me outside meet me outside, meet me outside All my street street peoples meet me outside meet me outside, outside m******* X is got y’all bouncin again Bouncin again, bounce-bouncin again Dark Man X got ya bouncin again Bouncin again, bounce-bouncin again Swizz Beatz got y’all bouncin again Bouncin again, bounce-bouncin again (Swizz Beatz) Ruff Ryders got y’all bouncin again [DMX] Bouncin again, bounce-bouncin again Dark Man keep you bouncin again Bouncin again, bounce-bouncin again Dark Man keep you bouncin again Bouncin again, bounce-bouncin again All my streets they bouncin again Bouncin again, we’re bouncin again Swizz Swizz Beatz we bouncin again Bouncin again and we bouncin again Double R keep it comin, ain’t nuttin y’all Ain’t nuttin y’all can do, now.. [BOOM]
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Cemeelie, send me a text…..I need to holla at you bout something…
By melo
January 23, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
I said that I am Black. I never denied that. I just said that I do think the term AA applied to me. In my opinion Swetie, let it go!Kym,Jesse and Al can call themselves whatever they want.If u want an acre and a donkey, Mugabe is doling some land as we speak, to anyone calling themselves black panther or some shyt black.Go there!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
WillieD you needs bring something to the snack room I see you come in here empty handed to much…here a list take you always lookin for munchins’ to da store. Preciate cha’.
For Real can we here Rev Brown first, PLEASE!
DasV will you please help sis! 900K is a yam hunter…
Cemeeli’s bridal shower host b.k.a. Page chic-o- AND carmel apples at a shower…okay.
ColdStones are all over the city. not ITP but in other locations included. I’m a memeber…yes a VIP…spl for 8yo treats. Great cakes btw.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Cemeeli you’se a fool for the Old negro Hymns!!
Page1908 there is a Cold Stone Cremery in Atlantic Station, Stonecrest and one off Hwy 78. I love Cold Stone Creamery myself!
what’s up Awwwwww…….Dayum!
By Maurice
January 23, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
mytwocents, it was fun justa hear ya ‘splain it babygirl. Now, I must be & get off.
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
But I speak for those want to be simply called American. Isn’t that what the whole Civil Rights Movement was about, equality?
You think that was all the civil rights movement was about? You know what stop talking atleast about this subject. FOOLISHNESS!!!!! STRAIGHT FOOLISHNESS
By SexyLeggs
January 23, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Good night everyone. Thanks for all your thoughts and prayers.
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
They don’t care what you call yourself. They see you as American and hate you for it.
Got that? that cause dem white don up’n’out F/Ked up again…I thought we were lookin for bin latin…Naw, they wanna shoot at some rocks with 5 mil’in dollars rockits…the heck we doin in Irock…they ain’t don shyt to us…LOL
YET.
DasV did you see the way hilly’n’eddy ganged up on Barack? That was too funny…that dude still helded his ground
By Tazzee
January 23, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
I come back from lunch and its on and popping in here. I must admit I agree with Dr. Kym in principal.
White people have no need to distinguish themselves because they are the majority and weren’t subjected to the atrocities in America at the hands of ‘America’ that Black Americans of African descent (how’s that?) have. And I’m not talking about slavery - Jim Crow laws and other atrocities are only about 2 generations removed.
White people can just say American. Some people don’t want to be limited to a color. So if I want to call myself African-American, it’s not nonsense at all. And I don’t begrudge any other ethnicity that wants to identify with their heritage. Do you think Asian-Americans that have been here for generations get the same flack that we do because we say African-American. Heck no! Do they get a pass because they may have moved here 2 or 3 generations later than when Blacks moved here. Is anyone asking them why they can’t just refer to themselves as ‘yellow’?
And while I haven’t done the DNA testing - after setting foot on African soil, you can’t tell me it’s not in my bloodline.
And to abc’s comment: You are not your gender, ethnicity, national origin. Yes, there is much more to me than all of that - when I walk in a restaurant/store/company - they don’t see all that other stuff, they see a black woman. Any many times make assumptions about me because of it. All the extras are determined through interaction.
By melo
January 23, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
What you talkin’ bout, melo? @ared…i am waiting on your number…lol bro been shouting u out since last week.Why u stck up like that.
By Rell
January 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
mix mix mix
Well 19x (includes echoes) play at 6x your own risk 6x (repeat)
Spent some lonely days and sleepless nights waiting for you girl to hold me tight running round like I do not exist played me for a fool girl you been so cruel girl you had me like a puppet on a string I thought without your love life wouldn’t mean a thing girl afraid all that I gave you you abused if you want my love girl you gotta choose
p-l-a-y if you play with me it’s at your risk and I’ll set you free (Repeat) play at your own risk girl play at your own risk I’m tellin you play at your own risk girl play at your own risk I will be cruel
p-l-a-y if you play with me it’s at your risk girl I’ll set you free (Repeat)
I thought I had a woman oh so fine now I gotta watch you all the time If you think that your so hot stuff I’ll take you to the top and then I’ll let you drop girl you had me like a puppet on the string I thought without your love life wouldn’t mean a thing girl afraid all that I gave you you abused if you want my love girl you gotta choose
(instrumental break)
play at 6x your own risk 4x (repeat 8x)
girl you betta watch your step playing at your own risk repeat 2x
p-l-a-y if you play with me it’s at your risk girl I’ll set you free (Repeat)
set you free
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Page/MO/Blog ladies ColdStone one Ease West Conn Tara makes one hellava Cheesecake Fantasy…auuuwww Man! for those of you that are into take me away that kind of rendevous with your sp treats…
900K see ^ here’s away to a girls book club.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
LOL. CEEcee he aint the only one! what would you suggest i do … name it. my arsenal tight.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Mo and Cee Ok, so there is a Cold Stone? Awesome! I will definitely have to get some when Aunt Flow visits next month!
Cee lol at Chico Sticks and Candy Apples. Don’t forget about the Candy Necklaces I love to rock, too…lol. Whenever I go to friends houses where they have food, I usually bring one of my specialty’s: chicken kabobs, guacamole, candy apples, shrimp kabobs, fried ice cream, or enchiladas.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
2C…oaky you started it.
F ur 4$$ S stil ht n D coast S clr, txtme dis arvo, I wll TC of u dEr!
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
*900 I do not have to resort to retaliation for something so trivial. It’s funny that people lower themselves to name calling and insults when they can’t verbalize their opinions to get other to see their point. If you are trying to inform someone that you feel their views are not correct is not to take pot shots, but to state the facts, using examples in they are applicable to enlighten them to something they may not have been aware of. Sometimes you are able to show them and sometimes they may stand by their points. That is the adult this is to agree to disagree and move on. No need to insult someone. That is like telling someone their religion is wrong because YOU don’t agree with it. That is their belief and last time I check it’s a free country and not a dictatorship.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Page1908 You makes GUACAMOLE!!!! Oh girl! Had I known that at Flambeaux you would have been in their kitchen!! LMAO!! I love guacamole, going to On the Border after work for some. Also when we hit up Atlantic Station we will have to remember Cold Stone is there.
Cemeeli that cheesecake fantasy sounds lovely!! Will have to keep that in mind
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Page that’s East West Connector’s CozyCone as my 8yo has re-named it i think he’s realted to DasV.
Auight now when my shower rolls around don’t get “My Specialy’s Amnesia’…:-). Kabobs, whooo w/chicken, peppers, and mango…on of my own easy dish to share with friends.
By Poppa Grande
January 23, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Rell I know that he doesn’t have to go to SA for some unwanted baggage. I only mention it because it is prevalent in Rio right now. One of those guys from the Mike in Brazil site caught something then came back to the US and did a couple of adult movies and gave it to them in Cali. It caused cease in adult film-making.
By Rell
January 23, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
@melo….me and amazon just playing mayne….feel me..we just filling time with idle chatter…that is all…i am bored, she is bored…we need another job, more money….etc etc…..
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Cemeelie….what da hell was that………
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Cee -yam hunter? Not familiar with it but I have a good feelin I’m guilty of such. Cheesecake Fantasy is good. You’re getting ahead of me though, thats next weeks club meetin. I got this Culinary arts sex tape I will be showin to the class, make sure you bring your apron.
DasV -arsenal tight huh? just be prepared when you’re called upon @ the club meetin.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
LOLROTF@ CEEcee forget ebonics and southern drawl… i need you to teach me ‘text-speak’…imma go on the premise that is a private convo and not ask… but from now on, post whaeva i say on the blog in text-speak so’s i can pick that up. im also gonna ask truth iffin they have a rosetta stone for that. LOL
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
melo - Nice to see you’re on top of Rell’s aspiring coochie conquests. LOL
By BLOW ME IS OFFICIALLY BLOWED & THROWED
January 23, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
RELL Please knock off all the rapping/singing! It’s annoying…among other things today. Some ppl dont’ know when is when…
So please ppl know when to STOP beating a dead HORSE!!
This blog is the HORSE! Try again tomorrow it’s BOMBED OUT and DEPLETED!!
You guys have BLOWED me today…You have done the impossible left BLOW ME Speechless…..
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
Trying to loosen eryone up a little. We on the last leg of the day. Be easy and get another drink. Mr.2008 buying the next round.
900K you a trip mayne, In here trying to floss with chick. Cash only for you homie. Take this ol faded azz light black card back and tip the ladies too. Mr.900K my azz, callin my place C**.
Similac look around, this a bar, aint no dayum snack room up in here. Talking bout apples you need to fix ya name tag and get Security up here fo I have to reach under the counter for these nikkas. Shug whey you at? Bought all this daiquiri mix and sweet shyt. These chicks in here drankin hard straight likka.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
MO/Page When are WE meeting @ AStation? Don’t even try it…
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Mo girl, yes, I make the Guacamole a lot. I pretty much each avocado with most of the stuff I eat. I haven’t met too many people here who like it. I think my friend from Decatur said he didn’t like it either, I can’t remember. On the Border is ok, but of course, it’s not authentic Mexican food. The other night when it was snowing I made some crab legs…lol I need to find a good sushi spot too.
Cee lol @ CozyCone ctfu that’s kinda cute.
By Julia
January 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
BLOW - ok Why do you think you run things on the blog? You try to change the topic when YOU don’t like it, now you are telling people when/what to post. Why? Don’t like it, don’t read it. It’s very simple
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Rell - Speak for yourself! I don’t need another job. Will you be at the Final Four? I will! I have a great job. I’m not even bored. I’m just a procrastinator. LOL.
Not too hard to multi-task here. Keep the blog open in one screen. Work on the other. Check the blog like I check email. Easy breezy.
But I will play with you for a bit. LOL
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Cee I am down for Atlantic Station at any time!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
2C/DasV my 16yo cousin got me school’d on the txt’n lingo. I could not understand her for a good 3-4 months and would say fonk that & just call her. I be the same way…WTH???
F ur 4$$ S still ht n D coast S clr, txtme dis arvo, I wll TC of u dEr! = If your @ss is still hot n the coast is clear, text me this afternoon, I will take care of you dear!
…couldn’t wait to use it…it’s been svd in my mlbx…i hv dysfunctional fam flk.
By Dr. Kym aka Relationship Expert
January 23, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
Melo I have not done the DNA testing that Dr. Gates talked about on the PBS special “African American Lives.” But it is something on my list to do..not just for me but for my son. In his studies recently he learned about Prince Henry and the slave trade and was upset to learn that those traded into slavery were captured not by the slave traders but by other Africans.
There is a website to find out more www.africanancestry.com.
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Page1908 check out MF Buckhead for sushi…I not into raw meat but their was great…
By melo
January 23, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
My b’rthday is on the 17th, next month. Iam planning to invite u’all.We gonna have a mad,freakin,freaky partey.watch this space.
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
900K it’s a term used when a man is on the hunt for the yam. It was derived from African men actually seeking the y-bean…but it’s sometime used in urban lingo.
DasV draw!
WillieD okay just put me some bar nut in the left cona pocket on the pool table and i guess i’ll munch on that. And give me my $10 back! sucka…i’on need no security check dude said i was straight.
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Mo Hope I’m not too late for that patron shot. Actually, pour me a double shot. You just got the vaseline, and it already looks like it’s running low. lol No more patrolling…just stick with me. I got you.
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
Page, where did you go to college?
Alvin, I’ve heard great things about MF Buckhead. I also heard it’s expensive!
By BLOW ME IS OFFICIALLY BLOWED & THROWED
January 23, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
JULIA Wow…very interesting…. I guess you haven’t been introduced to me yet. Well lucky for you it’s your LUCKY day. First off, this is a old a$$ topic…for one. And secondly this topic or the other topic “racial topic” was not my idea…so you stand corrected. Not only that…ppl was taking the fun out of it…coming in here talkin about what the MAN calls us. We have enough stress to deal with on the daily let alone fight over what is the correct and most RIGHTEOUS black power way to categorize ourselves. And apply all that $hit right back to ya a*! . K.I.M….as Staceye & Rell likes to say….Keep pushin if you don’t like the sweet sassy $hit that I like to spit. KICK ROCKS!
By melo
January 23, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
thanx Kym.will use it together with my books on african history & african migration to get more insight.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
ARed I went to San Diego State University.
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Cemeelie….you’re too funny…..
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
Willie D -No disrespect to the JukeJoint; hey man I’m jus sayin its a horse parked outside! them dekalb boys pull up in/ on anything LoL Yo fam, my card is good dogg and that is my real name on there Mr. Hielslavinbergski yeah thats me! Dont worry DasV got the next round anyway.
T-Pain playin in da jukebox
Staceye -I know where you’re commin from Ma. Like I said didn’t mean to assume…buy you a drink?
By Poppa Grande
January 23, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
Most of the good sushi joints here are expensive. (You get what you pay for.) Benihanna wasn’t bad either but they aren’t cheap.
Ru sans may be the most economical. There is one in Buckhead and one in the Moreland shopping district by the Best Buy.
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
Page1908 I love avocados…grew up eating them. You’ll have to give up that guacamole recipe.
By SlimOne
January 23, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
Question
What do you say to a grown azz man you mistakenly walk on eating his own boogers?
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Augh, Page, all of the homies went there. We probably know some of the same people (depending on how old you are), especially if you were cool with any of the Deltas or Omegas on campus. Small world!
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Cemeeli LMAO at you on the “when are WE going to Atlantic Station”! We got you girl!
Page1908 I have a friend that loved the sushi bar at Strip in Atlantic Station. I havent tried it yet. As for OTB, they have a neat new entree called Guacamole Live where they make guacamole fresh for you at your table. I love it.
DreamsMaterialize Thanks for lookin out for a sistah! LOL You know being a five footah is hard around these parts (*where is Demi *). Get me anotha shot while you are at it please.
WillieD since you left a sistah hanging with the FedEx man!! DAYUM! Thought we were cool! LOL
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
AmazonRed You got Final Four tickets? I volunteer myself to be your guest. lol
Page1908 When did you finish San Diego State? My cousin played bball for them…plays for the pistons now.
By BLOW ME IS OFFICIALLY BLOWED & THROWED
January 23, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
SLIM ONE That is nasty a* heck! Yuck! He has to be retarded and collecting some type of check!! Nasty a*! I think I threw up in my mouth a little.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
CEEcee i cosign that 429 2CPTG post… you and your family. LOL
nine-huundred you assume on that arsenal tight descript too long and will find yoself cut up, sliced and diced and smelling of gun-powder… and i am not apologizing for you mis-understanding meh neither! and you know doggone well what a yam-hunter is…. go’on now. leave us women be!
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
Dreams Cool beans. I would be glad to share the guacamole recipe. You will have to make some changes maybe because I do mine with a lot of green onions and it is usually really spicy because I like spicy stuff.
I will have to check out that sushi spot in Buckhead, that is close to my office.
ARed I just turned 33 and I went to SDSU from 1995 to 1999. I knew a few Deltas and of course some Omegas. This one Omega named Jabari was such a bugaboo…lol.
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
Cemeelie thats why I when out and grab a phone with a key board…I tell my young cousins to type out the whole word, cause it’s hard enough reading’n’texting while drive.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
slimONE nada. nothing. not one dayum word. after you rush to the bathroom to throw up…. pack up and leave. if he say one word, scream at the top of your lungs… cause i mean. really. what could he say??!
and another thang 900 dont volunteer me to buy rounds…. there are some up in here i wouldnt give my spit in a cup to…. and i swear to… if you come back with how you want my spit, imma choke you LOLROTF
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Dreams I graduated in 1999. I went to school with Marshall Faulk, Darnay Scott, and a few other pro football players. I can’t remember any of the basketball players.
Mo Yeah, OTB’s guacamole is like they do it at El Torito. They make it fresh in front of you also.
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
Pappa Grande - As a sushi lover, not all the good sushi places are expensive. Ru San’s is very good and good on the wallet. The same can be said for Strip and Twist/Shout. There is a good place called Aiko. They are a little pricey.
There is this chinese spot called Chin Chin that has great sushi for some reason. Theirs is very cheap as well!
Benihana didn’t always have sushi. They added it a few years ago so it’s not marketed as a sushi spot.
Who was asking anyway? Was it Page? Cali girls love their raw fish!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
Slim say it ain’t so! Naw.
By DasV
January 23, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
Alvin the blog ate my post re: BHO holdin his own…. but basically .. yea i seent dat.
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
Mo I’m sure you can hold your own, despite being a 5 footah. Shoot ya’ll are usually the fiesty ones. I’ve had the Guacamole Live at OTB. Rosa Mexicano in Atlantic Station does that too, but I just don’t like spending so much money for Mexican, after living in Cali and Texas, where you can get some damn good mexican for 8 bucks and be full.
By Staceye
January 23, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
Gotta love my sista Blow Me!!!
900 I’ll take a Henny and Pepsi. Yes…I said Pepsi. I hate coke. I know in GA that is Blasphemy! LOL
Good night all
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
LOL Page! That Omega’s name is Jabbaar and he’s STILL a bugaboo! Ha ha ha. He’s trying to be an actor and think he looks like Chris Tucker!
By AmazonRed
January 23, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
By the way Dreams, if you’re willing to buy the plane ticket to San Antonio, you just might get your F4 ticket. :-)
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
what could he say??!
…He was a little hungry or tasting his cyum?
Who knows
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
DasV - My hands call for love - i knew exactly what your nutty azz meant w/ “arsenal tigh”, I invite you over to the JukeJoint for a sip of Henney and this is what I get? Threats of bodily harm! I give my expert opinion to help a sis out and then, boom she throw slugs my way… dam. Spit? nah Ma, not into all that extra.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
January 23, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Page1908 when we go to Phoenix I have GOT to get some good mexican food. I love it and I have to settle for what’s here, but even the Mexican food in Houston was better than here. But I will take chips & salsa anyday of the week!!
Thanx DreamsMaterialize! Yeah I am a lil fiesty, wouldnt be true to my short nature if I wasnt!! LOL
By 2CPTG©
January 23, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Venus, you nasty!
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Page1908 Oh I like my food spicy, so bring it on. I think I need to open a restaurant since good latin and carribean are lacjing in Atlanta. Can I feature your guacamole?
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Alvin…com’ mer bay…Cemeeli now beatin’ the pads of Alvin straight beat bown…Why are you reading n’ text’n and driven’?
DasV thanks for sly passing me that piece/arsena…i needed it for Alvin.
By Page1908
January 23, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
ARed you know that was me asking about the sushi! LOL I love raw fish licking lips lol
By Willie Dynamite
January 23, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Similac we still cool. Just don’t call me a sucka again, Or we gon have some problems. Whats this 1978 again. lol!!!
900 don’t trip on the Dekalb boyz we just look and talk like this.
Mo My bad, but you know I’m allergic to fedx. I’ll make it up to you I promise.
Slim you gotta say something, anything. That way he will look around next time he get ready to do it. Nasty azz.
Good night all.
By Itchy
January 23, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
I cleaned myself this morning but find my begind itching by the end of the day, is it weird to rub my butt on the office floor
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
Page Faulk???…yea meet you at Atlantic Station a-sap!
By Alvin
January 23, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
AmazonRed it’s very expensive!! I took myself and the bill came to $95.00
maybe thats why the food tasted so good
DasV cool ma!
By Cemeeli
January 23, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Slim a darer like you could have asked/said…Was that bogger tasty? or You know I enjoy a good bog too? LOL!!!
By DreamsMaterialize
January 23, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
AmazonRed You mean “San Antone”? lol I used to live in Austin, got down to San Antonio alot. I might surprise you…so have my ticket ready. ;-)
By Poppa Grande
January 23, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
AR No problem. Its just been my experience that the ones that I liked were a little bit more expensive. When I lived in Doraville, there was a $1.00 sushi place. It was fair. I guess that I am biased since that experience.
I am NOT NOT NOT (That’s a triple not) a fan of Strip at all. It was horrible food with horrible service. I actually know the folks that owns that owns Strip (they are planning another restaurant called Tease) and Twist, Shout. I think that Piebar is in the family as well (but not sure about that one.) But that was my experience. I reminded me of the black IHOP on North Avenue. ( For natives)
By 900K aka Mr 2008
January 23, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
Staceye -Pepsi it is, I still remember those old MJackson commercials! GA folks stay acting like Coke is part of their family, even tho they lay off like 1500 Georgians every dam year!
DasV - Im lookin back thru your post, and I detect multi-personalities… holdin up ink-blotted index card… what do you see Das?
Cee - Ok I’ll hold up on the book club until you are ready…. ready yet? LoL
One love Off to practice
By mytwocents
January 23, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Well I never expected to go from Musiq’s “Teach Me” to Biz Markie’s “Pickin Boogers” w/a lil S&x Ed class in btwn. Not all on a Wednesday. I’m officially done for the day.