Misadventures in Atlanta

By Dan

January 3, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

I’m the type of person that values (and believes in spirituality over specific religous traditions.

I don’t judge people for what they believe or require that they believe in anything for that matter. My only concern as far as religion in relationships is that you respect my right to believe and practice in my way, and I’l respect yours.

When that doesn’t happen, and it has, we’ve broken down on an intimate level, not about religion, but about respect (fundamental in most religious traditions).

By Lady J

January 3, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Everyone!!!

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

On religion: I will date anyone but an atheist or of satanic religion.

Demi is now practicing Hinduism…I didn’t know them India women were so good looking.

I don’t know…some of them goth women are cute too!!! Their pale skin under all that black clothing really turns me on…Is Vampirism a form of religion?

Slim, lets order ourshelves some fangs

Foots That’s the way to bring in the new year!!!

900 to the K man you are right, I read wrong…Drawing up a ghetto a$$ play book…Next time we hit a spot, you go left and I’ll head right, we’ll circle around, then double back and cut up the middle and meet up at table 10 to compare numbers…Hopefully none of the female numbers will match up, LOL..I hate when that happens.*

By Ga. Man

January 3, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Good morning…i am back…wow i partied too much…but i had a good birthday…

shout out to alll the new years babies and new years eve baby

By 900K aka Mr 2008

January 3, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Buenos tardes!

By Steve

January 3, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

I’ve been dating someone for almost two years and they have no religion at all. This has been a major issue with me to the point that for 2008 I’ve decided to break off the relationship. We don’t see things the same when it comes to giving and attending service or even working in the ministry. I better understand about equal yoking now.

By Katie

January 3, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

I am not religious and would never date anyone that is. It’s just not for me and I would hate to have a partner shoving religion down my throat. Just as I’m sure he would hate to hear my point of view.

By brown_sugar_vixen

January 3, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Good Morning & Happy New Year to all.

Me personally I’m a very religous person. We weren’t in church every Sunday, but my mother and father are christians, and they enstilled lots of morals and values from the bible as apart of my upbringing. I feel that there is a lot to be learned from religion not matter where you beliefs estem from.

I don’t force others to believe in any particular religion, just because that was how i was raised. I simply view it as it is every man for himself. However I don’t date anyone who choses to believe in nothing at all. The few that I’ve come across just weren’t my cup of tea…on any level for that matter.

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Lady J morning bay…

and GA.man Sup bruh!!

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Good morning. Religion is not as important as being spiritualy connected. You don’t have to go to church every Sunday, but for me you must believe in a higher being.

By 900K aka Mr 2008

January 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Religion always a touchy subject, I don’t see myself with a woman that has no spirit in her only because of the future we may have or cant have… but I would still kickit to see where her head is @ on the big pic(if she hates the word then its nothin). However the Jesus freaks out there are plenty scary for me as well. I’ve had a girl dam near lose it on me cause all she wanted to talk about was church & the good book and how we need to be right w/ him. Yeah of course she had a seed when she was like 19 and in church but still she preached and I jumped ship!

Demi - I got your back brah, the ole swoop & dice eh? good move.

Katie -naw girl I would not try to shove it down your throat. ok that did not come out right

By Lady J

January 3, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Hey Demi:)

Can’t add much to this topic but I do know this from experience you have to be on the same page with religion when married….I never knew thi was so important until dealing with a Catholic and I was Methodist and the two are sooooo similar yet so different when applying the two in a household…It is a serious matter when one does know how or even consider their own religion…But I am still in search for both on a consistant basis…I do believe in God but my faith is so little and I know that makes no sense but it is a personal battle that is getting stronger daily…J

By Mo (now known as Moeisha)

January 3, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Morning Errbody Its so cold its enough to make me cuss, and I dont do that on a regular.

On topic I am religious but I wouldnt dare force my beliefs on someone else. However I dont know how it could possibly work b/w me and someone who isnt religious. I have never even dated anyone of a different religion, not on purpose, just never happened.

Glad to see everyone!! Happy 2008

By Miss QC

January 3, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Morning Bloggers, have a nice day!

www.blackthen.com

By binford

January 3, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Fundamental (insert religion here) = BAD!

It’s not a problem when someone has beliefs but can see the other viewpoints, but when they are fervent and attached to the belief system that they have “tunnel vision” - then you have a problem …unless you are drinking the purple kool-aid too.

By Biff

January 3, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

it sounds like Steve and Katie need to stay away from each other!!!

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

GoodWARMing Everyone!

Wise you’re a PK!?! Who knew?

…@ topic…here’s what i have to say.

What role does religion/spirituality play in dating for you? Because i am a spiritual person I value and respect that about a person when i’m dating. I do not make it a point to bring up religion early on in dating for the same reason I would not ask/share about past relationships for example. I allow that person to share there religious/spritual state. Then i’d assess how that person and i would yoke…so yes in a nutshell it is relative. IMO

…Cemeeli does not have a heaven or hell to put people, so i’m allergic to judging people….really.

By brown_sugar_vixen

January 3, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

SexyLeggs I agree with your point.

900K - I’m very religous but people like the girl you described trip me out. They are the ones who never practice what they preach.

I think that religion is an image that has been terribly misinterpreted by some modern day people. I’ve met quite a few folks who have become angry b/c we had disagreemts about scriptures in the bible…LMAO all the way home, ppl truly are somethin else when it comes to religion.

By airheadmotorcycle

January 3, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

I will date anyone except Christians, because the ones I have dated/known disrespected all other religious beliefs and the irreligious. Respect is an important factor in a relationship.

By Lady Dark with Dimples

January 3, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Everyone

Yes, it comes up pretty early in a relationship…right when they ask me what type of man I’m looking for. I’ll say a Christian man…not a spiritual man, not one who is in touch with a higher being, or who believes in the universe…but a Christian man.

I would not date someone who is not a Christian, but that wouldn’t stop us from being friends. I just know that he wouldn’t fit in the world I envision for my family. There are some battles that I just don’t want to fight such as getting my husband to go to church or pray or rely on the Bible for guidance.

I did date a Jehovah Witness before…that’s how I know I can’t marry a man of a different faith.

By SSSBM

January 3, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

WISE DIVA IS IT TRUE ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT PK…THEY GROW UP WILD ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH? I go to church but I cant go word for word in the bible. I wouldn’t invite them to church but I would let them know I attend, if they decide to invite themselves I’m all with it. its been along time I miss yall

By abc

January 3, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

The problem with religion, specifically Christianity, is people tend to think it’s really about whatever they want it to be about rather than what the Bible says it is. What it’s all about is laid out pretty clearly in the Bible. It’s a guidebook for living. The problems arise when people don’t want to live that way, or don’t bother to read and learn what that way is. But we’re all that way, at least to a degree. The question is, how much grace do we have in us, and how much of that can we allow other people who don’t agree with us, or even moreso, the Bible? How judgmental can we not be?

Such is a fundamental difference in people that can’t be fully (or maybe even partially) overcome. Many can’t get along with people of differing political viewpoints; many more can’t get along with people of differing religious beliefs or non-beliefs. That’s not a big surprise or revelation.

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Happy Belated Birthday GMan!!!

Hope it was a good one.

By Preacher/Father/Bishop Truth Formally known as The Truth

January 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Happy New Year Blogsville.

On topic: In past years religion was more of a problem but now its hardly ever discussed. Maybe its that I’m older or maybe fewer women put much stock in it nowadays. I personally believe in a higher power buts its not the commercial religions that everyone buys into. I have a problem with any god that would give Creflo a supposed direct line and not me and refuse to acknowledge him. But thats just me.

EVERY religion has one thing in common. It was created by a man who thought his version was the right one. The great thing is this world is full of folks that will follow anyone who hangs a shingle. Think Jim Jones.

Not trying to step on any toes on this fine frosty morning. LOL

WD why do you say your barely wife material? Explain.

By brown_sugar_vixen

January 3, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

abc You bring up some great points that apply to people far beyond religion. I believe that people take things completely out the text, and try to justify their actions based on bits and pieces.

I had a guy argue me down that it’s ok to cheat on your spouse if the two of you are not spritually connected. He proclaimed it to be in the bible. So me being me I pulled out the bible and asked him to show me in the text…..of course he couldn’t find that scripture anywhere. LOL

By Dan

January 3, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Within some of these comments lie my problem with religioud traditions.

People say they read the Bible, can quote chapter and verse, but for some odd reason the message gets lost in the words.

I was raised as a Baptist Christian, yet I would go to church and hear some of the most sanctified (going to heam, any minute) people talk the most trash about everybody.

That’s one of the reasons I moved away from religous traditions/affiliations, the blind hypocrisy.

If a person believes in Yahweh, Mohammed, or the God of Jesus Christ, or the trees for that matter…if this is a good person and that belief that faith guides them to try a be a good person…..what does it matter if they fish on Friday, or don’t kneel at church, or look strange when someone does the “Holy Ghost” dance down the aisle?

By SlimOne

January 3, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Demi We can get the fangs but just so you know, they are not allowed when performing my weekly Earmuffilectomy.

By brown_sugar_vixen

January 3, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Dan

I don’t think that it’s the words that gets lost in the message. I believe that people are going to pick and choose what words they think apply to them and run with that…right down the isle while crankin that soulja boy…lol

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Dan…you know i was gonna ask..:-).

Fish on Friday???

i know you’re making a point but that one made me chukle a little…Lol

By nypeach

January 3, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

As one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I only date other Christian men of my faith. I’ve tried dating outside my faith and it falls apart right around the time I refuse to celebrate Christmas or Easter (both pagan in our view). Also, I find men will say they are okay with my celibacy but eventually it becomes a BIG problem…especially with men who say they are are Christians and respect my views. It’s just easier to date men of my faith.

By Lady J

January 3, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Truth you are right too similar and common…

By Ga. Man

January 3, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Thanks Cemeeli it was a blast i had a party on New Years Eve….then on my birthday New Years my brother and his son…took me and my son to this new bowling alley Stars and Strips we bowled, played laser tag, video games…some of my other family members showed up and it was sooooo fun

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

@Dan did you mean eat fish on Friday?

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Now Sister brownsugar lol…Crankin’dat down the isle…can’t have that in the church house now!

By SeanJohnson3000

January 3, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Sup Blog….

Co Sign Abc’s and Truth’s post…plus i feel there is too much we dont know and was lost and translations changed to be GungHo about any one religion….all you can do you study and search for truths and answers and i havent gotten that out of going to church… that said i have ran across NUMEROUS females brainwashed by prechers to the point that i will date then but couldnt see myself spending much time with them…

By Dan

January 3, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

I meant the Catholic tenant during the 30s that said you couldn’t eat fish on Fridays.

That was right around the time they refused to get involved in the Holocaust I believe.

Interesting huh?

By Kimestry

January 3, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Religion and Dating —- Religion is man made however I believe you can tell where is person is in their life by their faith; according to the way they respond to everything siutations. The meaning of dating if difference for different people, so it’s challenging to answer the question. Does dating lead to marriage? Or are those who date just having fun?

By melo

January 3, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

I did date a Jehovah Witness before A lot of people go to church and worship their pastors but they dont know what Christianity is.Belonging to a different faith does not make u unchristian.Its like this lady at my job who goes to CREFLOR’S who says Catholics are niot christians!!What heresy is that. A lot of these people(ladies) with issues are so damn miserable and get brainwashed by their pastors they cannot differentiate between man and GOD. .

By Wise Diva

January 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

umm, I didn’t grow up wild, mainly because I was afraid of my parents, I mean I had my moments of defiance, but that certainly was addressed quickly.

@Truth - for me, I would probably need to work on the submitting to your husband part of marriage - deferring to the male as the head of our household. I understand it, the importance of it, but I feel that I would have the most trouble adjusting to it.

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

@GaMan where is Stars and Stripes? I love bowling (cosmic bowling is the joint!) That must have been fun…so birthday boy is how old now…25 again?

By Realistic Dreamer

January 3, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Being that I’m married to a nonreligious woman, I love Bible quoting holy-rolling Christian women. They are great in bed.

They’ll even pray for me afterwards…unless I’m really on my game and they’ll pray during. God bless them!

In all seriousness, I’m neither religious nor judgmental and can share my life with anyone religious or not who is similarly nonjudgmental. As far as sharing my bed, I take all comers.

By Rell in 08

January 3, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

“Look at the weaknesses of others with compassion, not accusation. It’s not what they’re not doing or should be doing that’s the issue. The issue is your own chosen response to the situation and what you should be doing. If you start to think the problem is ‘out there,’ stop yourself. That thought is the problem.” Dr. Steven R. Covey, author of The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People

By any takers...computer geeks that is

January 3, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Sorry to interrupt but can anyone shed light on what an RCA Lyra Digital Media Player is/does? Is it like an IPOD? Can you downloand movies?

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

I did date a Jehovah Witness before

That is a cult…I tried it for a minute.

SSSBM Most turn wild as hell, but some don’t.

Slim I feel you there, having your head/clit nip in error is quite painful.

And what is a Christian man

By Hotlanta

January 3, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Dimples, excuse me how are you gonna GET a grown man to go to church. That’s c control issue right there. Please I don’t want a church going man I want a work going man. If a man took care of me the whole 9 yards,that is more than just sitting in a pew on Sunday. He is doing what he is SUPPOSED to do in the name of Jesus. Please I wouldn’t bother him about going to church at all. I don’t have a problem with him resting on the 7th day looking at football all day because M-f he is going what he is supposed to do. AAAAAAAAAMEN

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

@ Dan…funny i kind of thought your point was about the Cath tradition. I remember hearing that somewhere. So really??? gthoh…

well i’m out, my fam lived faithfully ‘Friday night Fish’ for years.

By nypeach

January 3, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Kimestry: Good point about what dating means to each person. Dating should lead to marriage, i think. Otherwise, what’s the point? If you want to play around and just date forever, then it’s better to make that clear in the very beginning. For me, dating is a way to get to know if this person is marriage material. Once I see that it’s not going to work, then I let that relationship go. Otherwise, what are you hanging on for…good sex? Not having sex before marriage protects me from staying in a dead-end relationship because the nooky is good. Following God’s laws for courtship and marriage (including the admonition to marry only in the Lord) protect me from feeling used or hoping that this guy who is banging me a couple of times a week might actually marry me one day.

By Rell in 08

January 3, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

I answer the door NAKED when the Jayhova witnesses come to the door…waking me up to hand me a watchtower will get you the saturday morning matinee “tube steak at sunrise”….feel me

fluck your propaganda

By brown_sugar_vixen

January 3, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Cemeeli

You know I had to throw that in there! I’ve seen & heard some amazing things up in church…had a sista not able to focus on the word of da lawd. Seen preachers in the walkin it out, and 2-steppin all around the podium. While giving sermons on Mosses, and Matthew, and Abraham….No need for BET, just visit ya local Sunday Morning worship. LOL

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Dating should lead to marriage, i think. Otherwise, what’s the point?

^5

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

any takers go to www.zdnet.com for the reviewed on the player…it’s pretty good..

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Demi Really - stop sniffing the paint off your keyboard!!!

…Drawing up a ghetto a$$ play book, fangs, cute goth women, Hinduism, …WTH? Where is Demi today? did you eat the keyboard?

By Steve

January 3, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

I am Catholic and I married someone who was a non-practicing Baptist. She was not against attending church she never joined one, Baptist or not, after leaving her hometown. I continued going church while dating her and invited her to come a few times which she did. She didn’t sign up or volunteer to go to church full time and I never pushed the issue.

I believe true faith should come from the heart and not by force or even forceful prodding. When there was a church seminar on relationships I invited her to go to that. She enjoyed the seminar and she got to meet others who were dating and going to church. It also got the idea of marriage in the church going.

We got engaged and then did the marriage prep that the Catholic Church has called Pre-Cana which is meeting with a priest, taking a survey to see where you stand on marriage related issues, and a one day retreat with other engaged couples where married couples tell their stories . In this Pre-Cana retreat you again work through what you want in your marriage.

We married and I continued going to church without her. Months after our marriage she decided investigate the church and later did join the church. Religion worked out for us.

I do know someone who had an agreement with their fiancé to attend church with her and once they were married he backed out. They are now divorced.

Talking about religion is very important. If you are strong in your faith it can matter greatly what the other person believes. You cannot force faith, but you can introduce your faith in a positive manner with the same amount of love you have for one another. If they follow then that is fine.If they don’t follow you to church then you have to work it out so you both are comfortable.Living by example always helps.

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

I was raised Catholic and went to church every Sunday and had religious instruction every Wednesday night. Holy Communion and all. When it was time to go to the alter and drink a little juice (keeping it real) and the wafer, I always, always threw up. I am not a practicing Catholic to this day, but I have my spiritual, moral and ethical compass well balanced.

By abc

January 3, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

A woman’s deference to her husband isn’t a problem if the man is Godly, and it’s her position to point out and illuminate that about him which isn’t. It’s still a peer-to-peer relationship, and that’s why being evenly yoked is so important. Such deference is not subservience. And you know, a really good woman will manage to shine a light on a man’s shortcomings in a way he’ll understand and accept. It’s synergistic, a definite trade-off, but an equal partnership nonetheless.

Man doesn’t come to God, God brings man to Him. You can lead a horse to water and you can haul a man to church, but you can’t make them drink of water or of the Spirit.

Many if not most churches, and especially the mega-churches, want worship of the church more than worship of God. It’s written in the Bible how many fakes there would be, take a look around. They’re everywhere, and they mostly want your money. A good church is very, very, very hard to find! I’m still looking.

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

@ Steve a great point made in your post.

*If you are strong in your faith it can matter greatly what the other person believes. You cannot force faith, but you can introduce your faith in a positive manner with the same amount of love you have for one another. *

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

early afternoon, y’all……religions are nothing more than systems of morality…they’re all pagan in some form…..dressing up and going to church on Sunday is even tinged with paganism! Belive in the truth, as opposed to what somebody says you ought to do! And yes, I go to church, but do I believe everything I’m told, hell no, cause it doesn’t add up, and like someone said…..another man wrote it!

abc do you honestly believe the bible is the authority on living right?

By Biff

January 3, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

My ex-wife became a born-again Christian while we were married. The only problem was she was born-again with birth defects.

Oh well, heathens and born-agains just don’t mesh well.

By abc

January 3, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Yes, 2CPTG, I honestly believe that the Bible is the authority on living right.

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

what religion was Jesus? And if I’m not mistaken, “Christianity” is only mentioned like 7 times in the bible……and if it’s the authority, why so many versions? don’t it say you’re not supposed to add nor detract from the word?

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Anybody on this blog go or have visited Church In The Now?

By melo

January 3, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

abc,u on target today!!

By Hotlanta

January 3, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

It just amazes me how folks who are not having sex before marriage is always looking for someone who is having sex. Then they wanna get mad when they are rejected. It’s all about control when people play those games.

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

2C i may be wrong but i think Jesus was a aposolic or pentecostal.

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

lemme ask you this then, abc……if it is the authority, and it’s our guide to living, why wouldn’t God’s only begotten, have been married? He is the manifestation of the word, right? He is our example for all things pertaining to living correctly, right, so where/who was his wife? Surely God has grandkids…..and I’m not trynna be funny either! I wanna hear your educated answer.

By DreamsMaterialize

January 3, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Everyone

By Dan

January 3, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

We don’t want to get into a religious discussion….becuase if you go to “I believe the Bible is correct” then, I’d have to tell you about the true reason Friday the 13th is a Scary Day. The Rabbinical and Catholic relious-state history, and about what’s really in the Vatican (lost “books” of the Bible).

So for now, let’s just stick to religion with regard to relationships…..please.

By Mike

January 3, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

My only rule on dating a religious person is: don’t. There are enough legitimate worries in life without obsessing about imaginary transgressions against some invisible sky wizard. The last complication a relationship needs is delusions arising from some quaint Iron Age superstition.

By DreamsMaterialize

January 3, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Good Morning Everyone I don’t think it’s necessary for two people be of the same religion when married.

My grandmother was a devout Catholic, and my grandfather didn’t affiliate with any religion, just considered himself a spiritual man. They were happily married for 52 years.

My best friend’s father was baptist, and his mother was Jehovah’s Witness. They were happily married for over 30 years.

When you love your spouse, you have a genuine respect for their beliefs. As long as you are aligned on the important family and marital issues, then your relationship will thrive.

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

*Beautiful, I respectfully disagree….those terms are “new”…I’m saying, what was his moral doctrine during his time?????

It ain’t in the bible!

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

2C my co-worker said he may have been a hebrew or jew.

By Bre'

January 3, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Greetings to all, I hope 08 is coming in well and warm.

I can more so side with Dan. Growing up in the south I think my grandmother made us live in the church. I was going while I was in the womb; now I go when I’m moved to go. Not until a girlfriend said one day that I was way more spiritual than religious did it click for me. That even without going every single Sunday, I’m still moved by a higher being. On dating I’ve always choosen a wide variety of men when it comes to religion.

The current gentleman I’m with will have nothing to do with church or religion. However I know for a fact he knows alot about it and can have a great debate about church and religion. He grew up going and went until a young adult, but something major turned him from it. As long as he believes in something we are good to go. Explaining it to my God-parents and others. They can not fanthom the thought of any person being in a relationship with someone that does not share the same beliefs. I’m yet to have the full chat with them. I’m waiting until we move home and get settled in. This is my life to live and my choices I have one go around at living it to best I can. And with him I’m at my best. So with that, they can either accept it and deal or let it go.

In how he lives his life, treats me and others, and gives back in all the ways he can: shall be of greater value than pushing church on him.

By Wise Diva

January 3, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

excellent post abc

By Jazzyone

January 3, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

What up ya! Happy new Year to ya.

Raised Catholic for generations in my family..went to Catholic schools till graduation from High school, church 2wice a week. I have a spiritual foundation that is strong and nourishes me thru my life. I am not seeking a holy roller, but a spiritual foundation is important in my relationships…There are some faith backgrounds that i do not prefer but all in all we all may be praying in a diifferent language or faith, but we are all praying to the same GOD no matter what you call him or what tongue you call him in… and he hears… period…all the semantics and lost in translations are useless when it comes down to standing firm and stepping out on faith.

By Jazzyone

January 3, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Im with you on this one Dan

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Cemeeli I am here…just thinking positive, LOL

For me, dating is a way to get to know if this person is marriage material

ny you are in your late twenties/early thirties, huh?

Rell dude, when I was in my early 20’s..one time I open the door in boxers, wife b, and $14.99 bottle of henny..looking all hard and shyt.

Maaaaayne!!!

This cell block D, 6’+ witness dude burst out with the gay man smile and mannerism..I was only a buck’n’35, at the time..While dude was talking, i was running physics’n’trig numbers in my head:

The piece is 8ft back and 2ft to the left…distant/time - GD (wt/pwr x speed) + demi (stg’n’pwr/speed) - time fighting dude off, equals what??

Never again…LOL.

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Dan….that’s exactly where I was going…..The Bible was simply an amicable solution to control the masses at the time…..see Council of Nicea!

Friday the 13th…..what you know ‘bout them Knights Templars?

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

2C others added their .02 and stated that he didn’t have one.

By abc

January 3, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

That would involve a large degree of speculation, 2PCTG. I’m no theologian, but I’ll give it a try.

The first question is: who was Jesus? The answer is, Jesus was God, come to us in human form, with predestined fate and plan. The plan was for Him to live his life without sin, and He did. He was persecuted and killed by Jews for claiming to be who He was, and in so doing, atoned for the sins of all mankind. All we have to do is believe it; it’s the New Deal, given that all through the Old Testament next to nobody could live by The Law well enough to please God. Man cannot please God, no matter what man tries to do. Enter in ‘exchanged life’, but that’s not a topic that fits into a blurb on a blog.

Jesus (God) didn’t marry because He doesn’t need an earthly companion, nor to procreate. That’s for man’s benefit, not for God’s. According to Genesis 6, God did create other sons, i.e. ‘sons of God’, and became quite displeased with their activities and progeny, to the point of having Noah build an arc and flood the planet to do away with them all.

Like I said, I’m no theologian. Anyone better versed than I, chime right in!

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

…invisible sky wizard. I have heard it all now!

Great post JazzyOne.

By DBB

January 3, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

If someone is too religious, meaning they mention it to me more than once a week, they are not the one for me.

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

As it pertains to dating…..I don’t think I could date a zealot; Just believe in a power greater than yourself, and we’re cool……don’t try to tell me yours is the way to go, and I won’t force feed you, mine…..

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Beautiful, I’m done….don’t want this to turn into something that it shouldn’t…..

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

abc…..mayne, we gon have to chop it up off blog sometimes….

when you gon invite ya boi over to the theatre?

By Dan

January 3, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

@2C Enough…enough

On topic: My problem with religiousity and most of these Mega-Churches have a lot to do with the circles I run in. I know some of these prominent preachers, personally. And what gets me is they have people leaving church on Sunday afternoon confused. Now, I will say this, the church I was raised in, the pastor taught us to read the verse, chapter, book, Bible for yourself. His favorite quote is “Don’t just believe me, read it for yourself.”

And I think that what wrong in a lot of preaching these days….these “pastors, bishops…” take different verses from the Bible to preach their specific point.

Sometimes I be in the back of the church getting “shhh’d” because I’m telling anybody who’ll listen, “but that ain’t what that verse was referring to….look verse 2,3, & 4 is talking about…..”

So I stopped going. Not to church but to these cultish Mega churches. And for that matter, I’m leery of people that do.

By Preacher/Father/Bishop Truth Formally known as The Truth

January 3, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

2C actually jesus may have been married or something close. There’s alot of evidence that says that Mary Mags and J Dog were REAL tight. LOL

ABC if a cat broke into your home what would you do?

Christianity was forced on aa’s by an oppressor, similar to the way it spread around the world. We were pagan’s but adopted our slave owners beliefs. Take a moment and read what King James did to the bible in the “King James Version”. He white washed it. Why anyone would accept that book as a operators manual is beyond me.

Mike great post. We get caught up in the hocus pocus and lose focus.

By J. D.

January 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

If I were a member of PETA would I look for a date at the Bass Pro Shop? What if they are really good looking? Not if I am serious in my beliefs. If my beliefs are important then it is vital to find someone like-minded for harmony in that relationship and for that sake of child-rearing as well.

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

me personally, i could only marry a spiritual man (one who doesn’t really practice any religion). the reason why i state that is because i’m spiritual and don’t belong to a church, but i do speak to God everyday. also children come into play. will the kids be raised christian or a jehovah witness??? don’t want to be involved in that fight.

By Chris

January 3, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Never date Catholic woman - they may say they don’t agree with Catholic teachings but in practice find they can’t violate these without suffering emotional distress.

I have a Catholic wife who still, to this day, says she disagrees with the church’s views on contraception but has been unable to overcome the fear and guilt she feels enough to be able to use it happily.

By str8

January 3, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Hey Diva… HNY

I just wrote a long response to the topic that didn’t post… shoot!

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Truth…..I’m right there with you!!!! Hell, King James had Shakespeare write that for him!

By Tazzee

January 3, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Happy New Year folks! First day back on the job.

Haven’t read any of the other comments, I’ll reply to Wise’s questions first:

What role does religion/spirituality play in dating for you? For me it’s part of the foundation of my relationships.

If you are dating someone new, do you bring up religion early in the getting to know you stage? Because my relationship with Christ is a huge part of who I am, it comes up - however I don’t do anything special to bring it up. For example, a guy may ask what’s my favorite type of music and I’ll talk about gospel music and how I listen to certain songs to get my day started.

Do you invite them to go to church with you? It varies. If he has his own church, we might worship together after the relationship gets deeper. But if he doesn’t have his own church, I might invite him to go with him if it comes up in conversation.

Do you think it is important to start a relationship with someone that has similar beliefs about religion, spirituality, etc? Yes.

Have you ever dated/married someone with a different religious background and converted? No.

Do you have any rules when it comes to dating and religion? Just that we are on the same page as it concerns who we pray to. Denominations and the level of church attendance isn’t important - but when the rubber hits the road and I need my man to have my back, does he have a relationship with Christ and can he go to the Father on my behalf?

and WiseDiva I’m like you, I have no desire to date a pastor.

By abc

January 3, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

When someone broke into my house I protected myself and my wife and let them get away with whatever they could carry while running away. It’s just stuff. I left it for the cops to sort out, they caught some crackheads with some of my things some months later, and they wound up with probation. State Farm dropped my homeowner’s insurance due to ‘loss experience’. I lost maybe $3500 worth of stuff, it was a long time ago.

If it happened again, I’d do my best to run them off while protecting my people, and if that involves injuring or killing them, so be it. I’d hope and pray to be like David, and choose the perfect stone to put a hole in their giant head.

By Blow Me

January 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Wow….after some of these replies…I am horrified about bringing kids into the world. We have too many spiritual believers….No wonder we have so many confused misdirected kids today. There is no religious true foundation for anything. Everyone wants to wing it and do what every they feel.

I love the lord and I want no…I NEED for him to be in line with Jesus as well. For him to be the head of my household he has to be a GOD fearing strong man. For me to listen and respect anything he has to say.

By J.D.

January 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Today’s Bible translations, like the NIV or NAS, come from greek and hebrew texts, have nothing to do with King James, and are far more reliable than your evening newscast.

Why not read the Bible itself rather than the Da Vinci Code or National Enquirer to find the truth about Jesus.

Today there is a religion who forces conversions through violence, holds slaves, kills infidels, demeans women, and whose founder had a 9 year old wife, and you’d be hard pressed to find criticism of it in these pages.

By C tha 1

January 3, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Happy New Year Everybody. Interesting topic. I’ve spoken about my opinions about Church Chics before. While many are quite attractive, the constant conflict of thier flesh and spirit will drive you mad. Personally I don’t have a problem with a celibate woman. If sex clouds your judgement … fine. But why be so touchy/feely all the time?

I agree with Chris on his 12:35 post. Women who claim to be steadfast in their beliefs shouldn’t be swayed by the guilt they associate with sex. Sex was never meant to make someone feel guilty. I understand the whole guilt complex behind pre-marital sex. But there are women who are married and still feel guilty about it. What gives?

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Dan I agree. 11:58a.

By Jazzyone

January 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Chris *By Chris

January 3, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Never date Catholic woman - they may say they don’t agree with Catholic teachings but in practice find they can’t violate these without suffering emotional distress.

I have a Catholic wife who still, to this day, says she disagrees with the church’s views on contraception but has been unable to overcome the fear and guilt she feels enough to be able to use it happily.*

I think in any religion you have the same type of pull that you described on your heart, your faith and your spiritual foundation…, we are all flesh if one didn’t have these issues there would be no faith, these are the things that make a persons faith stronger.

I don’t think your point is can be soley viewed as just the Catholic faith.

By 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

J.D.…..how can you read the bible to find out the truth about Jesus when 18 years of his life are ommitted? If you want the truth about someone you need to know the whole story, not just what’s applicable to the author’s taste!

By Dan

January 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

@JD

Ah, yes, but here’s the Larger Point.

Do you know Hebrew? Or do you know Greek, to truly know that the NIV or NAS translation is correct?

You left that trust up to the people that wrote it didn’t you.

Kinda like the Nicea Council (google it) decided the books of the Bible, after King James reign.

So….you’re next sardonic point?

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Blow Me i’m sorry but your moniker and your post don’t go together. please please please choose another fake name!

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

But there are women who are married and still feel guilty about it.

From my experience, those women were either rape or molested at one point…see most of the our favorite strippers’n’porn stars for more info.

By Jason

January 3, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

@ Dan: Right on. Read it for yourself and determine what is or isn’t being said. Knowledge is the beginning of wisdom. Listening to one person do a topical type sermon without looking at a specific whole chapter/passage in context can be helpful but can also be dangerous. It’s like reading Yeates or Shakespeare from one line. Not really the point…

With that said, (and this is directed at Father/Preacher Truth), do you read Ancient Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew and well enough to translate it? If you do then you can comment on how King James did or didn’t translate correctly and may have had a racial bias. But as you haven’t explained your credentials (other than having an opinion), I’m free to ingore you.

As far as my ladies, life is hard enough without disagreing on some pretty fundamental questions like how much God does or doesn’t impact our decision making, where is right and wrong in a specific question, and what role do we want for our children. So while I don’t hold it against a lady persay, it just ain’t for me. But that goes for many things besides religion, like how much money they spend on what, etc… If we’re going to date and possibly marry, I gotta say it makes life easier if there is some similarities there or at least some understandings between each other about how we’re going to work together. I’m not looking for a copycat just some ground rules and similarities. And those similarities are, like people, more complicated than just a couple criteria.

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Blow when i read your post i was thinking …there it is…uhm but see this is such a sensitive subj (which actually has gone left from topic), as you can observe with some of these posts. But ANYTIME religion/spirituallity is mentioned there is most def gonna be a passionate debt…THE WOW FACTOR.

By PB

January 3, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Soloman took many foreign wifes- 700 wives and 300 concubines, and they turned his heart away away from the Lord, and encouraged him to worship their gods. He even built temples for theses foreign wifes to use for burning incense and for offering sacrifies to their gods. This made the lord angry, and the Lord told Solomon that after Solomon’s death, He would take the Kingdom away from Solomon’s son, except for one tribe.

The moral of the story—-Belive in god and let the religions go. Surely anyone with 1000 possible booty calls a night found something good about the people he affliated with.

The root to it all is in the summarian text. All religions start from the one and the purpose of all of them is the control of people.

Not to knock anyone, but there are too many prototypes before him…but if the Jesus (Christ)was on this earth as described he would haven been a Jew who practiced esoteric religions that have little to do with anything about being a Christian.

By Whaddaya think

January 3, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

@ Beautiful - finally something we can agree upon. Blow Me’s moniker and post don’t jive.

By 900K aka Mr 2008

January 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Okay here’s the problem I have with the “book”. The most important man inside does not have his own “Book of Jesus”. Now I do hear you on the read the Bible to understand and not Da Vinci or the Message… But I just believe that Jesus had a whole lot more to say that is relevant to our everyday lives AND beliefs. We know that it is a fact that Jesus does not speak (or quoted) from the ages of 10-30yrs (forgive the numbers but I know they’re close) this is prime time that a Man becomes and Adult and gets knowledge of self. Conspiracy theorist? Maybe I am but I’ve always question this and believe that many answers lie here. So if there is quotes and text by the Son of G that have been left out it makes me look at the entire book as flawed Seriously Flawed. Who stands to gain from this?? How can I take everything else in it as 100%? Any thoughts?

By The Truth

January 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

ABC in alot of ways we’re alike then. Personally, I’d shoot his a* as soon as I could get the dogs off him.

Blow Me question. Why does a person need to fear their god? Is it for better compliance? Unquestioned loyalty. Whats the benefit to anyone but the church? Your right about everyone wanting to wing it, your pastor is doing the same thing. I don’t mind falling and cracking my. My problem is being pushed by some cat that wouldn’t take the same fall.

Another question: How can a priest that cant marry council me on marriage?

The vatican/catholic church is one of the richest entities in the world.

If it wasn’t for Constnatine needing a religion that would forgive him for all the shyt he did we would still be praying to sticks. He single handedly gave acceptance to a religion that was thought of as a cult before his time. 337ad

If you ever want to know the “true” nature of man take the following laws off the books. 1) Murder 2)Rape 3)Robbery

By 30isthenew20

January 3, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Over the Christmas holidays, I headed to DC to see the folks. Boredom got the best of me and I headed to the club with some of my NYC friends that are also from the uh-re-ah. Christmas night I made my way to Eyebar for what promised to be a fabulous event. I walked in—skipped the line because my girl went to HU with the promoter—and headed upstairs to the party. On the first floor, the average age was 25. Further upstairs, I was afraid to even brush anyone lest I catch a case. In a room full of 18 year old “men” with angular frames that hadn’t filled out yet and faces that were baby soft from lack of hair, I felt like a cougar. I got a glass of wine (the bar was less packed upstairs) and promptly descended the steps to party with the legals.

As the night wore on, I noticed something. All of the grown folk were in VIP with me, Ace, and Melinda. We were all dressed conservatively. Blazers and sweaters for the men; comfortable tops and shoes and other chill attire for the women. We looked like the grown folks we were. We were mostly chatting and small talking, trying to figure out how we knew each other (there’s only one degree of separation for all black people who went to college anywhere on the East Coast or South). As the Henny and Mo got to us, we began to dance—mostly two-stepping that involved plenty of fancy footwork. It was at that point, I noticed the kids—as I affectionately refer to anyone under 25—watching from outside the rope.

The girls… er, young women, had on sexy clothes—skin tight jeans and half tops in the dead of winter. Way too much make-up and way too done hair and stilettos that looked painful to walk in. When they danced they stood on furniture and wined, backed it up on some boy who hasn’t learned how not to get hard when a girl shakes on him, or they got low, low, low. (I didn’t even attempt it that night. I’ve learned my lesson.) I watched one young girl shaking to the floor to a song that I used to get loose to in my day.

Back when Love was still Dream and I was a tender 22, I would go to the club and Ace and I would challenge the Baltimore folks to dance. I had the technique, but they always won (B-more folks can out dance anyone on sheer stamina alone.) But there was a time when I was the girl in the middle of the circle, when it wasn’t a good night unless I sweated out my hair and my outfit before the walk to the car. Ahhh, youth.

Taking in the scene, it hit me. “It” being that grown is not a fashion sense, it’s a state of mind. No amount of make-up or hair, or heels can make you grown or make you look grown. You just look like a young girl playing dress-up. But you have to be grown to realize that. Two, there is nothing worse than a person of grown age trying to appear that they are less grown they are. Even if I had my 22 year old body, me in near-nothing clothes and/or gyrating around at the club would just look plain foolish. (And by the way, I found pictures of myself from when I was 22 while I was home. I was a size 3 with no boobies, booty or hips, and still starving myself because I thought I was fat.) And finally three, it takes time to get on the other side of the rope. You have to earn it, be around long enough to build your network (or bank account) so you are the person looking out from VIP and not the person looking in.

I smiled at the youth, watched them do what I no longer can and still be able to walk in heels the following day, watched them looking in VIP with overshadowed eyes at the grown folks on the grown side of the rope. I appreciated where I was and how far I’d come. The song changed, my moment of clarity passed and then I danced with a 23 year old in a t-shirt and jeans, who I taught how to two-step and properly twirl a woman.

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Demi…lol…sniffing again.

By melo

January 3, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

WD,ur topic has broght up some unintended consequences.All the psudo-preachers are coming outa the woodwork and preaching their divergent doctrines!Creflo does not even quote so many verses in one sermon like we hearing today.All he says is that’uall going to propser,if u fill that bowl with tithes’, whatever ‘prosper’ means.Fuackk my azz.

By Lady J

January 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

coigning ladies….j

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

2 christianity work wonders in keeping black slaves in check:

Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

or

Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

And they really expect folks to believe in something write by men.

And yes I believe in the bible…a little bit..just not much any more.

By J.D.

January 3, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Yes, and yes, I took 2.5 years of greek and 1 of Hebrew. These texts have been scrutinized for more than a millineum by scholars, critics, the wise and the foolish.

No need to google the Council of Nicea to know that it occurred in 325, long before King James in the 1600s. The ridiculous things we bring up to avoid dealing with Jesus.

What’s refreshing about the Bible is that David, Abraham, Paul, Peter, and many others were seriously flawed men, and none of it is white-washed. If King James had wanted to make them saints he could’ve, only to later be hammered by manuscripts dating back to the second century.

The Dead Sea Scrolls and hundreds of other texts only affirm that what has been handed down is well preserved and in line with what was read in the Temple before Christ and in the Early Church.

By Hotlanta

January 3, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Women feel guilty about sex because we are bred to othink if you desire it you are a w*******. When to desire sex is natural. We have women who sleep in their footed pajamas in the summertime when it is 100 degrees because they are taught the naked body is bad.

By Lady J

January 3, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

lol melo…

By Gwinnett County Mom

January 3, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

I would NEVER get into a relationship with a bible thumper. I do not believe in God or Jesus. Don’t pray for me either.

By The Truth

January 3, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Jason you were always free to ignore me baby, you didn’t need to pick that point. I dont read those languages nor do any of the people standing in the pulpit claiming to have some connection with a god that appeared out of nowhere. King James was a european king that wanted his own touch placed on the bible. Now thats a real cocky cat. LOL The bible is the greatest mind control tool ever devised. To bad jesus didn’t create it.

In the end bible thumpers do the same things I do, some worse. If my sexual desires or anything about my being is flawed remember its your god that gave me these desires. How can they be wrong then?

By Wise Diva

January 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Interesting points, Jason. Question, for Jason et.al.

side stepping religious beliefs and/or belief in God for a minute

have you ever dated someone who has a different moral compass than you do? Let’s say you dated someone for a couple of months, and start to realize/question their moral compass, so to speak (their ethics, what motivates them, etc.)..what did you do, or how would you handle it?

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

PB Soooooo, God doesn’t mind us f/k’n around, married or not…just don’t bring Baal or some other statue up in this Bish, LOL

By Lady J

January 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

meant signing…j

By melo

January 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

We have women who sleep in their footed pajamas in the summertime when it is 100 degrees because they are taught the naked body is bad. What!!!?? In their book iam a big time sinner then,but my wife and i dont care.We sleep naked evryday.Its taboo to get in bed with some unnatural fibre on yu in our bed.It keeps our marriage spiced!!Sorry folks if it sounds like im bragging.Phew, and last nite was freezing cold outa there but it sure was steeming warm,skin to skin!!

By Brink

January 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Steven Weinberg: Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

By 900K aka Mr 2008

January 3, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

J.D - you make good points as I am an avid watcher of the Hist chan and did a 2yr stint in Cath High where we read Old test fron to back everyday. And studied some greek and Hebrew teachings (yes they were all forgotten until I read your posts). But I don’t see your point. What statement are you making? Jesus is not a big deal to you? No I am NOT tryin to knock you like others in here just need U to clarify.

By LupeFiasco

January 3, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

why are you all trying to decipher a book that was translated by a homosexual king?

take what is written with a grain of salt.

Oh….go cop “The Cool” in wherever music is sold. ;)

By Jill

January 3, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

melo, if the blog can read about you banging your wife, or constantly watch you trying to get some female readers to hook you up, then you certainly can endure a scripture or two! Quit whining.

By Blow Me

January 3, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Beautiful&& Whaddayathink I NEVER said I was perfect…You are reading in to deep. Thats why I need religion to help to be a better person on who I am. I never pulled the ” I am holier than thou” card. If that’s how you feel then that’s on you. My MONIKER…does not define who I am. Silly for both of you to think that.

Cemeeli There what is….I need a little more clairification.

The Truth To be honest Truth, I don’t have the time or patient to sit here an debate with you or have you question my belief. He has brought me ALONG way. And that alone has shown me its bigger than me. I dont’ worship my pastor..Not at ALL. Alot of ppl get religion misconstrued and feel as if their PASTOR is higher than God. I don’t. I’m not into that….Alot of ppl on this blog today has not talked about religion or the bible. But pastor they feel are rippin off the church.

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

@ melo…psudo-preachers…ha.

…this subject has brought in the lurkers…

@ 30isthenew20 - ur story was very vivid.

By chrissy

January 3, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

It all boils down to your level of spirituality. If your level of spirituality is a every day process with you (you honor your God daily with your actions and words) then you will bring it up or it will show in how you carry yourself. If your spirituality is on the level of going to service on holidays, when family is in town, or something to do because you were raised that way then you probably won’t have a problem dating someone who has a different religion.

believe what i say, if you are serious it WILL NOT work with someone who is not serious about their spirituality and it HAS to be on the same level.

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

30isthenew20 Dayum!! You just wanted to get that off your mind, huh? LOL

By The Truth

January 3, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

JD how could any of those writings be authentic when they were written many generations after jesus had passed? Also, the people that could read or write were’nt in the least bit interested in jesus, except to have him killed. Nobody was following him around writing about his practices. In the end your free to believe whatever you like in whatever language you choose. BTW, 1 year of hebrew doesn’t make you an expert. I studied spanish for 3 years and all I know is hola. LOL

By chrissy

January 3, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

nypeach you are right, people are religious and spiritual except when it comes to doing the do. people only take certain parts of the bible. actions are the only thing you can go by…it does not matter what a person says

By For Real

January 3, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

What up Blog Fam and Happy New Years!

I don’t see how a person can claim to be spiritual but not religious. I haven’t read the comments but I am sure someone is giving the usual reasons as to why they don’t partake in a particular religion but they believe in a higher power? All religions lead to a higher power. Man wrote all the Bibles that these religions use but each religion teaches you not to put your faith in man but in the higher power. The Bible also teaches you to seek after the higher power. So, why waste your time trying to disprove what a man has said and done? The important thing to believe if you are a Christian or striving to be one is that Jesus walked without sin (not temptation), died and return for all of our sins. Oh and for those that may have said the Christianity was forced upon aa’s, go to Genesis and tell me what is the first nations that is mentioned. We all know that the victor writes religion and history but it’s our responsibility to seek out what is really important but you first have understand how important your soul is first.

Questions

How can one be spiritual and not religious? Where did your spirituality come from if you are not religious? Are you making up your own rules of life to get to your higher power or do you pick and choose from different religions? Do you believe that your faith in a higher power is all you need to gain entrance into heaven? Do you believe in heaven or hell? How do you know when you are pleasing or p** off your higher power?

For Real now stepping off his soapbox and tripped on the plank stuck in his eye but Slim’s CT broke his fall. Thank you Jesus!

By Fortitude13

January 3, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

24 here and I am definitely NOT a Virgin, but I have no qualms with this. I will admit that for a while, sex was clouding my thoughts and better judgement.

But, I am writing because for the first time since I’ve lost my Virginity, I have been abstinate for almost a year, and I have had a manfriend over this period of time! So, I am very proud of myself.

At first, I was annoyed because I wasn’t havng sex in this relationship, but as time passed, I realized that I needed this time to just chill! I feel better now that I’ve had this time, more “cleansed” if you will. One thing I really notice is that my friends are SO concerned whether or not I’m having sex with my b/f, that they’ll ask me about my SEX LIFE before they ask me how I’ve been or how school’s going! Seeing their obsession with sex really made me glad that I’ve had this abstaining time, although I was never sex-obsessed!

So now I feel better about myself for waiting, and I’ll feel more comfortable waiting for longer!

By J.D.

January 3, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

For clarification, Jesus is the Bread of Life. He gives me life, and strength. The Bible is not given to condemn us but to draw us to God and His ways.

As for the original topic, the Old and New Testaments both command believers to marry believers. I have counseled women and men with unbelieving spouses and have seen firsthand the heartache and struggle they have, not only in their religious convictions but in child-rearing, entertainment choices, financial decisions, and in just about every aspect of life. The command is given for our benefit.

By 30isthenew20

January 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

I don’t know if it fit within the reigns of the topic, but oh well. I needed to release how I was feeling…..things have def changed!!!!

By Lena

January 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

how strange/weird? @30isthenew20 why repost an entry from here are you the author of that blog?

By kinderbabe

January 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

good afternoon everyone and happy new year! i’m not sure what’s going on re: the topic but boy am i glad i missed it…lol. i’m sure the drama is in full swing w/everyone being newly restored and extra opinionated for the new year..lol. have a great day everyone…play nice.:)

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Blow I am speaking of “there it is” The WOW FACTOR…example: If you say I believe in fearing GOD 100 ppl are gonna say why you shouldn’t. As some of the bloggers say “Feeding the Trolls”…that’s all.

By Perms are for fakes

January 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

I EXPRESS my SPIRITUALITY through both formal and informal rituals and practices that are both personal/private as well as participatory with like-minded believers in both formal and informal settings.

Full Disclosure Notice (NOT A DISCLAIMER): I am a Christian so my perspective, or lens, if you will, reflects my points.

Spiritually speaking, the Bible is very clear about the MEASURE of a Christian: by the LOVE/FRUIT one bears.

Our “fruit” bears forth in our actions toward our fellow human and hopefully our actions match our words, and hopefully our words match our hearts. I think this scripture applies here: “‘These people show respect to Me with their mouth, but their heart is far from Me.” (Matt 15:8)

I saw a post that mentioned about equating one’s measure of Christianity by church attendance. Well, alright, a case could be made for that. However, I submit that the strength (or weakness) of one’s Christian walk can be measured by the degree of formal, consistent assembly and fellowship with like-minded believers…and there’s room for interpretation of what that “assembly” may look like.

By brown_sugar_vixen

January 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

30isthenew20- I’m a young woman myself. I have always dressed and acted with class and maturity…Like ya story..glad u peaked at the youngins and realized your growth from then to now. Funny how life changes right before your eyes.

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Blow Me girlfriend, when i see your moniker, all i see is you suckkkin’ dyck. come on! when a person chooses a fake name, it kinda does reflect who you are. kinda.

why don’t you use Sunshine, Cupcake, Sweetie, etc. something like that.

By For Real

January 3, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Hey Wise I didn’t know you are a PK.

For Real now digging into his pockets for some peppermint.*

By Hehehehe

January 3, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Rule #1…….NO PAY, NO PLAY!!!!!

By Dan

January 3, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

@30

Got the same feeling in the club last Saturday. ^

@For Real

I can be a spiritual person, and have that connection with a higher power (or God, as I like to call Him) and still not hold to the tenets, practices, and rituals of a specific religous tradition.

I can be called a Christian, whether I attend church every week or not…

My point in saying what I’ve said is that my connection with God is personal. It’s a three to one relationship. That’s how I guide myself in this world, that’s how I behave, and whether there is a heaven or hell…I’ll see when I get there.

BTW—NEWSFLASH— Recently after 100’s of years of church doctrine, the Catholic church released news that it may stop teaching the idea of purgatory.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled right after lunch blog fight.

By nypeach

January 3, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Beautiful: JWs ARE Christians.

By melo

January 3, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

JILL,iam not whining, i luv Jesus and GOD!! I dont go to church every sunday nor do i pray every day but im religios.Matter of fact, last week, my wife suggetsed we fast. I asked her for what, she said we can all dexcide. I MCOOL WITH THAT. my parents are christians(practising) and i will do it.That will aslo make my misses happy..im not close to GOD like her but she strings me along. As for u suggesting im trtying to hhok up gals here, u could not be further from the truth.YU musread me very well!! I KNOW 2 beautiful(bangable) chics on the blog and they will tell u, i have never remotely hinted that i wanna bang them!! OFF to the dentist with the kids, will be back later Jill.(but if u truly wana bang melo JILL..thats on yu)lol

By 900K aka Mr 2008

January 3, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Truth -how can you so easily question what J.D has to say when it has been exhausted in research. There has been thousands to go over some of the things J simply touched on! I do not think he is an expert nor did he claim to be. However since you question everything that is common: Nobody was following him around writing about his practices- how do you figure that? because thats what THEY say? I find it amazing that I brought this up an hr ago with no response at all. People please see my 1:20

Truth you know Im not goin in on you but something’s are just about as close to proven facts as you can get, people have dedicated their entire lives to research the origin of such info.

By Blow Me

January 3, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Cemeeli Oh okay I gotcha…I feel you 100%….Yeah they coming out me…They can bring it too…

By db_is back

January 3, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

30isthenew20

life is like that sometimes, ma. It’s good that you remember where you came from.

LupeFiasco

why so harsh? what you know could be lies as well.

By Jazzyone

January 3, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Let Blow be Blow, no one told you to choose Beautiful as conceited as that sounds. Blow me also translate to FYK off thats how I take it when I read it, so I guess its all about where your mind is.

By Dan

January 3, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

JD—-beautifully stated.

By db_isback

January 3, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

exactly, Jazzy….ppl’s minds stay in the gutter, lol.

By For Real

January 3, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Truth Why do you put so much faith in what a man wrote about the bible but question one’s faith in the bible that was written by a man?

Dan I asked the question bc a person’s spirituality is derived from a religion. Therefore, you can’t be spiritual until you get some form of religion. How can one be born with spirituality?

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Hi For Real and Happy 2008 to you!

I just wanted to answer your questions from earlier….in a nutshell….this applies to Cee.

I do not “BendIt Like Beckham” for no one about my sprituality/religion.

Simply: I trust/fear/love GOD.

By Dan

January 3, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

@900

Well, in response to your 120, is the Church itself.

Imagine if you will: You’re 12 and you’ve just been told that you’re the Son of God, destined to die for the sins of generations of people…..

What would you do in those 18 years, come to terms with it, rebel, practice. Figure out what He did in that time, and/or tell somebody, you’d be killed by a flying cross/dagger.

Father…father….put the rosary down…..

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Whew, you guys are deep. I’m reading and learning!

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Off topic - this is leap year and this is what I found.

*Leap Year has been the traditional time that women can propose marriage. In many of today’s cultures, it is okay for a woman to propose marriage to a man. Society doesn’t look down on such women. However, that hasn’t always been the case. When the rules of courtship were stricter, women were only allowed to pop the question on one day every four years. That day was February 29th.

St. Bridget’s Complaint It is believed this tradition was started in 5th century Ireland when St. Bridget complained to St. Patrick about women having to wait for so long for a man to propose. According to legend, St. Patrick said the yearning females could propose on this one day in February during the leap year.*

So if any you ladies whould like to pop the question, now’s the time!

By Biff

January 3, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

No wonder there are so many single people out there.

Word of the day: compromise

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Jazzyone i’ve defined what my moniker means many times. Blow Me what does blow me mean?

By db_isback

January 3, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

This is not directed at anyone: But sometimes I wonder if we choose not to be involved with religions because they restrict us from what “we” want to do. Are we essentially making our own religions or rules for our spirituality….all the while thinking “well God knows my heart”? And no I’m not saying that because you choose not to identify with a particular religion that this is you. Just a question about human nature. Sometimes we don’t like to conform. Are we trying to make our God conform to us?

By BLAT!

January 3, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

o…………..k

I was actually gonna just lurk today cuz this topic hits a little too close to home… cover your ears, nypeach…

As one who grew up one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but no longer practicing (Slim, baby, can u get some wet towels for those who faint???), I’m in kind of a weird spot….

I’m currently wild as they come, being as bad as i wanna be, and describe myself as “Spiritual, but not religious”. BUT, it’s still an issue when it comes to dating any woman seriously because I feel like she’d have to be open minded to the idea of me going back to it if i ever did and doing me, and not many women as seen on today’s blog could do that. And let’s not even mention kids…

By Dan

January 3, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

@For Real

Since the dawn of Man there is evidence of worship to higher beings. The Sun, the wind, Set, the Rain, Osiris, Kali (Hindu), any number of religion traditions practiced in any number of continents.

While not generalizing, it’s human nature to want to believe in a “higher power” (no offense, but that reminds me of AA). The difference is how that worship is practiced from religion to religion, from religious tradition, to religious tradition.

That’s my point, I’m not knocking noone, or no one religion, I’m just saying that being spiritual and being religious have similarities and differences.

Question for you: have you ever known a religious person, that was not at all spiritual? If you have, then you know what I mean.

By Honeylemondrop

January 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

People say they are not spiritual but religous when:

By Tazzee

January 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

This is some good conversation.

For Real I think a lot of people say they are not ‘religious’ because of the negative, legalistic connotations of the term. However I do believe that we are born spiritual beings. Because we come from God, I believe there is an automatic spiritual connection that draws us back to Him. But I have to agree that it is through some form of religion that we are taught to ‘feed’ that connection.

By Blow Me BEAUTIFULLY a.k.a BLOW ME!

January 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

BeautifulDyck Suckin…I did not intend for it to mean SEXUALLY. You might want to change you name as well too. On second thoughts I think i WILL..

BLOW ME BEAUTIFULLY yeah that has a nice ring to it…UMMMA DO ME!!!

JAZZYONE Exactly…she needs to DO her and let me DO me….But she’s right I changed it! lmao!

By badAKAtude

January 3, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

I have this fat, light, pretty in the face friend and I have noticed that every time we go out together, it’s like i’m COMPLETELY invisible to men. i dont even exist to guys when we go out. wth do they see in her???… as a more confident and well esteemed adult…..SINGLE adult at that…it kinda sux cuz we go to the best places in ATL where the guys look the best. and i can’t get approached for the life of me. they ALL…AND I MEAN ALL OF THEM flock right to her….don’t get me wrong, this isn’t a self esteem thread. i love my friend and she definitely deserves all the attention she gets b/c these guys only want her for ONE thing! she’s my clubbing buddy. but it’s getting a lil frustrating cuz i’m hardly meeting guys!

have any of u ladies experienced this? is it wrong/juvenile to take a break from clubbing/going out with her for this reason?

I don’t mean to sound shallow but skinny girls with big booties, light brown eyes, long hair need love to!

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

db_isback to answer those points…which again applies to Ce.

“well God knows my heart”? Which is such an OVERATED ‘cliche’ …ugh.

Are we trying to make our God conform to us? I would have no peace if i ever lived by this.

By Blow Me BEAUTIFULLY a.k.a BLOW ME!

January 3, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Beautiful Mans meant…lack of a better word….SCREW OFF…not in a sexually condenation…That’s you with the sex straved mind.

By Blow Me BEAUTIFULLY a.k.a BLOW ME!

January 3, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Beautiful Mans meant…lack of a better word….SCREW OFF…not in a sexually condenation…That’s you with the sex straved mind.

By Jazzyone

January 3, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

When I say Blow Me I mean to F*&K OFF!…just trying to change the subject abit gotta get off the Religion thing…

By Dan

January 3, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

@db

I think similiar to someone describing themselves as “spiritual but not religious” is in the same vein as being a political independent.

When what’s out there doesn’t suit me, and both sides are arguing the same major point, while creating wars over minor inconsistentcies, when each side is simultaneously right, and simultaneously wrong….. where do I go?

“Do I retreat to myself? Do I believe still? Where do I get my confort? Do I just accept what Mama ‘nem said, or do I look and see who/what/why and live by that that I know?”

Conversation with myself about 7 years ago, after I lost 3 family members and all anyone could tell me was: just pray and ask the Lord to guide you.

By DuShawnDoneDoneItAll

January 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

JD Your 2:00 pm was well stated. I agree, if both spouses have similar religious beliefs its one less thing to argue about. However, I would definitely date a chick that was a non-believer. I think it would make for some interesting debates. One’s Christian walk is not always indicative of their character or morality. That reminds me of this female I dated years ago. She stayed in church and constantly reminded me of what a “virtuous woman” she was. With in three weeks she was licking crushed pineapples off my scrotum. Then had the nerve to say that the devil had manifested himself through me and made her backslide. A few days later she stuck for three hundred dollars. I guess she needed money to tithe.

By The Truth

January 3, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

900 and For Real after reading these posts we won’t be able to change anyones beliefs here today. Just trying to point out a few facts. There is really 2 sides to christianity, the religous and the historical. The 2 have never matched up. While I believe there’s a higher power it has nothing to do with Creflo or any other dude that claims to be annointed. Your spirituality is a private matter. In the end we just want justification for what we want to do anyways.

The Truth has a new years resolution of not participating in any blog wars. (Now sitting meditation style holding beads) LOL

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Blow Me that’s cute. and it was totally unfair of me to ask you to change your name. but it’s so not ladylike.

By Blow Me BEAUTIFULLY a.k.a BLOW ME!

January 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

badAKAtude THis is the SOUTH In case you haven’t noticed they like them thick down here. And if she is cute….then why would they not flock to her. Maybe you could very well be the ugly friend….and skinny as all get out. Who knows…But stop Hatin and being so THRISTY for attention!

By Dan

January 3, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Y’all are killing me, Dushawn you’ze a fool.

@BadAKAtude

Holla at cha boy, as long as I can see a recent STD test, we good, I gotcha!

By For Real

January 3, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Thanks Tazzee you want some peppermint?

BMB That’s funny! I got some peppermint for you too!

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Blow Me ok, i get it. makes sense now.

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Personally, I thought BlowMe simply meant Bite Me!

By Blow Me BEAUTIFULLY a.k.a BLOW ME!

January 3, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

JAZZYONE Great minds think ALIKE! Oh so right…Slutty pup Beautiful….thinks it’s about oral.

DUSHAWNDONE* Crushed pineapples….devil manifestation…FUN KNEE!! LMAO!

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Fonk That!!!

DuShawn…Welcome Back & Happy New!

Question; That ‘Sister Pineapple Crush n’ Nuts’ who obviously stepped off…i guess…lol (he knows her heart) lol wow… was she the young lady that you blessed and purchase the appliance for?

By Belinda

January 3, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

thirsty chicks think they are slick by sliding in their physical descriptions on a website to garner attention. How funny. you should have included your digits, sweetheart.

By For Real

January 3, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

BA Barackus Stop hatin on your girl. Your definition of fat is obviously different from the all of the dudes ole girl is pulling. Why do you think those dudes are not after you for one thing fine as you are?

Oh and skinny with a big butt is an oxymoron.

By PB

January 3, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

DEMI- of the GODS—-I get that…):Unfortunately most have no clue what a DEMI GOD is. Nah… more than anything the meaining is you should not forfeit what you spritually belive for the sake making someone else happy it could have consequences. Their is a balance that can be achived in a relationship through honest communication regardless of faiths. The problem is blind faith and FEAR has so many people looking for things that are almost impossible to achive. i.e. the guy has to be 6’+, slim and muscular, non drinking, non smoking, exercise regularly, go to church reguarly and participate in the church home, finacially stable, monogamous,no baby momma drama, able and like to travel reguarly, D&D free, have his own home (not renting), and have the ability to pour charizma and charm out at the drop of a dime. This just what I see online daily so are we so Christ like? Most belive that GOD will send that perfect person to solve all the above issues for them without them giving any consideration from their end. Amazing… Hellz if I could have all those qualities in a mate without effort, it almost would make ya jump the fence. Today we just don’t take the time to know people without imeadiatly being judgemental. If we start listening to our hearts in lieu of appearences and cash we might be supprized. Ahh… who am I kiddin’ We are too far gone now for that shiz to change. Eventhough I have hope, I can’t see things getting better because we are so ingrained to the things that separate us most which are religions.

By badAKAtude

January 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Belinda just for you but 867-5309. It is what it is.

By Blow Me BEAUTIFULLY a.k.a BLOW ME!

January 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

BELINDA So right!! Check 2:59pm….

By SlimOne

January 3, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

For Real

Slim takes out a bottle of Extra Virgin Olive Oil and rubs it on For Real’s head after he falls into her CT. Strangely, nothing happens…????

By DuShawnDoneDoneItAll

January 3, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

On the topic of religion and dating I remember the first time I went to New Birth. I had a revelation while walking to sanctuary. It hit me like a bolt of lightening. I said to myself “Lawd Hammercy…look at the thighs on this girl here!!!”

Cemeeli You got a good memory. I purchased those appliances for a single mom that needed the help. The pineapple chick asked me if I could loan her the three dollars and then she got missing. I tried to track her down for a minute, then chalked it up as a loss. An even swap is no swindle. I beat the breaks off that azz for a few months and her jaw muscles stayed sore.

By Beautiful

January 3, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

But sometimes I wonder if we choose not to be involved with religions because they restrict us from what “we” want to do.

it’s the temptations that we face daily. all of us want to do right. but there’s something always standing in the way.

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Now all we need is the return of Runnin’n’Musin…let us pray for the return of the good ole days

By Dan

January 3, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

I call him Mr. Happy

Get’s me in trouble everytime

By Lord of the Dance

January 3, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Religion is ridiculous…it is based on real estate..if you are born in Hati it’s voodoo..south Georgia=southern Baptist..Middle East you are a Muslim…if your old school Greek Zeus is your man…born again types are the biggest w*******…is there a God, Diety, Zeuss, who knows maybe maybe not organized religion is full of ignorant followers…The Dalai Llama is the only spiritual leader I respect the Pope wears 1000 shoes and protects child molesters

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

DuShawn I’on care what we say/think about religion I think the story about your blessing that young lady/single fam was and act/God using you to bless her. Me = good memory nah!…I just enjoy and i find pleasure in seeing people/reports of getting blessed beyond what they ask or think.

…unfortunate that you had to beat the break pads off Crushed Pineapple tho’ DANG!…wonder what she thinks about when she sees a can of crshd pinapple?

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Demi it maybe just me or do you also think Runnin’ HAS returned…under a diff moniky?

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

PB remember….

Not Peace but Division

Luke 12, 49-53

49”I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! 51Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

Now what fool think God is a God of peace?

By slavery is good

January 3, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

black people get off da blog and go cash your food stamps so u can get a stupid church hat and dress to cover your fat lazy butts..give your preacher your money as he is working you like fried chicken at a family reunion he my cousin and i like to suck em black people are black cause they gettin ready to burn in hell

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

I’m pretty sure she thinks of him every time she see a can. An “association” like that is never, ever fogotten (I don’t think)…LOL

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

PB I was just joking on that Solomon thingy…but he is a good example of falling short of the glory…at age 85 something.

By erkle is a n****

January 3, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

any black man without a job is a Reverand…please take a sip back to Africa and make jungle babies God is Science if not why don’t he stop child molesters, rascists, Hitler, slavery, the human condition is about suffering and dying just like every living creature look how we treat the homeless God is Dead

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Cemeeli Nah, that’s like 2 or Rell changing their screen name, we know our peeps…and I think those were two different women Du was talking about

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

slavery is good funny…I’ll try harder to sound offended next time

Beautiful I like the way you handle that…Smooth Ma

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Sexyleggs i was thinkin’ sumthin is really wrong with me! Did i really post my twisted thinking … I’m over here rolling at her in the canned fruit isle at the market…Lol.

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

I know you guys are going to do the right thing and IGNORE!

Cemeeli, no what she does is go down the canned fruit aisle and straight to the pineapples. Grabs a can and holds it in her hand longer than necessary. Takes a deep sigh, puts can back and walks away w/a reflective look in her eye….

By Someone other than 2CPTG©

January 3, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Demi….guess who I am? lol…..

“that’s like 2 or Rell changing their screen name, we know our peeps…”

By Cemeeli

January 3, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

…thinking to herself…THE DEVIL IS A LIE! Lol…

By Demi, the God of...Happiness (I need to stop sniffing the paint off my keyboard)

January 3, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Someone lets try this agian tomorrow…your personality will shine, kept posting.

By 900K aka Mr 2008

January 3, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Truth- gotcha, I do think that the historical view is just as interesting and needs to be out in the light.

Dan -you’re a nut flying cross dagger LoL. I would love to go break in and search through the Basement of the Vatican to see whats REALLY good!

Bad’tude -I don’t mean to sound shallow but skinny girls with big booties, light brown eyes, long hair need love to! - SHhhhh… just come to papa bay-bay, here chew on this biscut and talk wit cha boy. I think that your girl is all out when she’s out ya dig? She most likely gives off the “Can you beat it up?” vibe that some dudes can smell a mile away! If thats the attention you want then you need to be ready to get banged out. It sounds like you’re not so let her do her ting and the real will step in your direction.

If you take one step, I’ll take all that I can…Lol

By SexyLeggs

January 3, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Good night everyone….tell someone you love them!

By GaryM

January 4, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

I have a story with a happy ending. We met at a seminar held at my church that was dealing with divorce recovery. I was a carpet bagger that moved to the south some years earlier where previously I was born and bred as a Methodist, which was a very popular religion in that geographic area. She was a southern belle raised in the tradition of a fundamental reformation style church.
I began attending her church primarily due to the situation that it was where her children were enrolled in christian youth programs. I recall my first church experience in this new environment, walking into the church where there was no musical accompanyment to the singing. I wondered why these people couldn’t afford a piano. Over time, I overlooked their unwillingness to conform to my ideas just as they overlooked my unwillingness to conform to theirs. I consequently formed up something of an uneasy alliance with their fellowship. I found however, that if I approached this with honesty, and an open mind and a certain willingness, that I could resolve any conflicts or reservations that I had. We both had very traumatic divorces from our first marriages and approached dating and relationships very cautiously. We dated five years and consequently married. That was nearly 25 years ago and it just keeps getting better. It may be possible for some people that if they find religion can separate them from others, perhaps there are other means of separation (race, politics, socioeconomic, etc.)that will also serve to keep them apart. As human beings, we have a strong tendency to focus on those things that separate us instead of emphasizing those things that unite us.

By GaryM

January 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

I have a story with a happy ending. We met at a seminar held at my church that was dealing with divorce recovery. I was a carpet bagger that moved to the south some years earlier where previously I was born and bred as a Methodist, which was a very popular religion in that geographic area. She was a southern belle raised in the tradition of a fundamental reformation style church.
I began attending her church primarily due to the situation that it was where her children were enrolled in christian youth programs. I recall my first church experience in this new environment, walking into the church where there was no musical accompanyment to the singing. I wondered why these people couldn’t afford a piano. Over time, I overlooked their unwillingness to conform to my ideas just as they overlooked my unwillingness to conform to theirs. I consequently formed up something of an uneasy alliance with their fellowship. I found however, that if I approached this with honesty, and an open mind and a certain willingness, that I could resolve any conflicts or reservations that I had. We both had very traumatic divorces from our first marriages and approached dating and relationships very cautiously. We dated five years and consequently married. That was nearly 25 years ago and it just keeps getting better. It may be possible for some people that if they find religion can separate them from others, perhaps there are other means of separation (race, politics, socioeconomic, etc.)that will also serve to keep them apart. As human beings, we have a strong tendency to focus on those things that separate us instead of emphasizing those things that unite us.

By GaryM

January 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

I have a story with a happy ending. We met at a seminar held at my church that was dealing with divorce recovery. I was a carpet bagger that moved to the south some years earlier where previously I was born and bred as a Methodist, which was a very popular religion in that geographic area. She was a southern belle raised in the tradition of a fundamental reformation style church.
I began attending her church primarily due to the situation that it was where her children were enrolled in christian youth programs. I recall my first church experience in this new environment, walking into the church where there was no musical accompanyment to the singing. I wondered why these people couldn’t afford a piano. Over time, I overlooked their unwillingness to conform to my ideas just as they overlooked my unwillingness to conform to theirs. I consequently formed up something of an uneasy alliance with their fellowship. I found however, that if I approached this with honesty, and an open mind and a certain willingness, that I could resolve any conflicts or reservations that I had. We both had very traumatic divorces from our first marriages and approached dating and relationships very cautiously. We dated five years and consequently married. That was nearly 25 years ago and it just keeps getting better. It may be possible for some people that if they find religion can separate them from others, perhaps there are other means of separation (race, politics, socioeconomic, etc.)that will also serve to keep them apart. As human beings, we have a strong tendency to focus on those things that separate us instead of emphasizing those things that unite us.