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One last problem to solve
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I can’t believe this is my last entry ever on this blog! I have really enjoyed talking to each and every one of you over the past year and a half. But I know I leave the blog in good hands with Wise Diva and Bella, and I am sure that all of you will keep on keepin’ on.
So for today’s entry, I tried really hard to think of a big issue, one that is one of my No. 1 concerns when it comes to dating. Hopefully y’all can leave me with some good advice as I go on my way.
As I know many of us do, I tend to fall for people who aren’t exactly what I had in mind. And once I fall, I fall hard. Now while I think that there is some definite value in keeping your expectations and your options open, sometimes, we have standards for a reason.
I know, intellectually, for example, that I don’t really want to date a guy who isn’t pursuing a career, or one who doesn’t make enough time for me, or who drinks too much or does drugs. But sometimes, our hearts take precedence over our heads, and even though I know that rationally “hey, this may not be the guy for me,” I can’t help but feeling strongly.
It’s this problem that has gotten me embroiled in several relationships that left me really hurt, and this problem also that has left me very entwined with exes who I know are bad news but whom I emotionally can’t resist.
So do you put your heart or your head first when it comes to dating? And what happens when they disagree? Should I end up with Mr. Big because my heart says that there’s something special there, even though my head says he should treat me better, for example?
How can you learn to ignore your rational side and go with your gut, or ignore what your heart is telling you and listen to the reasonable pros and cons in your mind?
Which is more important when it comes to love, your emotions or your reason? What experiences have you had that tell you the truth of this?
Maybe if you guys can solve this one for me, I’ll finally be able to bring my love life to where it ought to be.
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By GA.man AKA "Mr. Entertainment
June 29, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
Good Morning hugs and winks to the WLB Head nods to the all powerful MLB
Need coffee…”Slim….Slim…dang girl where did you put my coffee mug?”
By SlimDaComfortableOne
June 29, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
Laney Best wishes to you and I’m sure the whole of Blogville will miss you.
Happy Friday! This is the last day of my Vacation Countdown
By Sexione
June 29, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this
TGIF!!!!!!!!!!
Mimosas to the ever lovely WLB, full body hugs to the MLB
Laney As you get older (and wiser), you’ll learn to seperate the two (head and heart) and date more like a man. I always say “be true to self, know what you like and want, and don’t settle for less!!”, and you will be fine. Life lesson #100…….it is better to have loved and lost than to live with a fool for the rest of your life!
By T-Mango
June 29, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this
…T-Mango arrives to blog breakfast singing “It’s So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday” from the movie Cooley High…
Hair flip to the WLB and a pectoral stroke to the MLB-Happy Friday!
On the topic…go with your gut. I’ll elaborate in a few.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this
GA.man My bad buddy. I had to use your mug for my shot of red bull. I’m done so it’s all yours. I might need it again later so don’t go MIA on me.
By Biff
June 29, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this
Laney I think you have described the mindset of the typical American young female-snakes in her head.
Its sad but chicks have been reduced to this due to the so-called sexual revolution. When the men were running things women were considered to have special value to be cherished and protected. Now with the imprint of feminism they are considered attractive things to use. They realize this on some level and are unable to find their path.
Perhaps it would be best to reject feminism and go back to traditional values.
By GA.man AKA "Mr. Entertainment
June 29, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
GaMan now washing out coffee mug….thinking to himself…..sssssshhheeesshhh Laney leaving…now *RedBull in my mug….
*Laney you will be missed…but I agree…just look at it like a guy..if we want to we will…if not then *Kick rocks….enjoy whatever Your gonna do…party like a rock star, but always,always remember where you parked your car….(That means dont get toooo drunk k) take care and pop in from time to time……Welcome Bella
By Jake
June 29, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
What up Peeps:
Don’t miss the profound statement that Biff just made, he is dead on with this one. Its not an absolute, but its on point.
Its sad but chicks have been reduced to this due to the so-called sexual revolution. When the men were running things women were considered to have special value to be cherished and protected. Now with the imprint of feminism they are considered attractive things to use.
I’d like to hear the ladies thoughts on this.
By MusingLee
June 29, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
Morn’in All,
Laney even though you may not remember any of us in 2-3 years, good luck with all you do…If you don’t remember anything else, just do what makes you happy.
Musing now removes his Dr. Phil suit and fake bald head
By Sexione
June 29, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Okay, initially I skipped that comment, but had to go back to read it………
When men were running things, women were (just as today) being used, abused, misled, raped, demoralized and degraded. Yes, I do think it has gotten worse (but what hasn’t in this world), but now you want to say it is because of feminism? So basically, it is our fault that men try to treat us like dirt? While I do agree that some things we as women do and say (mainly allowing these trifling beings to behave this way) have enabled this type of behavior, we are not fully to blame……..it takes two!
Sexi now dropping mike to the floor and sashays her plump azz off da stage…
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Jake/Biff they are considered attractive things to use WoW! That’s a very profound statement. From all of our previous discussions on marriage and the male viewpoint, it seems to be a running theme of a women having enough special value to make him want that type of committment. It similar to our world of techology and toys. When something first comes out, there is a real highten sense of intrigue and interest. But don’t fret my pet, something else better, faster, more astethically(sp) pleasing will be made to replace what you once thought was great. So now we are in the cycle of always wanting to upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. There are only a few that still like to hold onto the old model out of comfort and familiarity. Then you have those that like both the old and new. Sort of like the old floor model tv with the smaller better version on top of it.
Dayum, Slim now wondering what model/category she falls into….dial-up or dsl
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Jake/Biff they are considered attractive things to use WoW! That’s a very profound statement. From all of our previous discussions on marriage and the male viewpoint, it seems to be a running theme of a women having enough special value to make him want that type of committment. It similar to our world of techology and toys. When something first comes out, there is a real highten sense of intrigue and interest. But don’t fret my pet, something else better, faster, more astethically(sp) pleasing will be made to replace what you once thought was great. So now we are in the cycle of always wanting to upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. There are only a few that still like to hold onto the old model out of comfort and familiarity. Then you have those that like both the old and new. Sort of like the old floor model tv with the smaller better version on top of it.
Dayum, Slim now wondering what model/category she falls into….dial-up or dsl
By MusingLee
June 29, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Handing Biff a pointy stick and open faced riot helmet…while giving Jake a blog hot cup of coffee.
Now defend yourselves against the pms’ing WLB’s you’ve upset.
By Sexione
June 29, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
Okay, just in case the blog ate the first post, I’ll try again…….
I think it’s quite the opposite Biff. When men were running things, they thought women should be seen and not heard (ya know, barefoot and pregnant), which allowed them to treat us and behave however the dayum well pleased, and we had little to no say about it. NOW that women are running things too, and men can no longer control us, they figure may as well use us to get what they want (cause you can’t tell us nothing anymore, or so y’all think)…my .02!
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
Good morning bloggers. Accidental frontal money drop to the WLB(causing them to bend over so I can see down their shirts)and Black Panther Power Fist to the MLB.
Laney this is easy. Step out of the situation and look at it from the outside and see if its a good situation to be in. Logic should always overrule heart, unless the price to pay is minimal. If done correctly the solution will be obvious, maybe painful but obvious.
GAMAN DONT USE THAT COFFEE MUG. SLIM LET ME USE IT FOR A SPIT (TOBACCO) JAR. I DIDN’T KNOW IT WAS YOURS. SORRY BRUH. THAT CHICK PLAYS SOME CRUEL JOKES.
WORKOUT UPDATE: LAST NIGHT I PREPARED A POT OF BOILED CHICKEN (NO SKIN) AND RICE, WALKED FOR AN HOUR AND DID 2 SETS OF 20 PUSHUPS. BY NEXT WEEK I’LL BE DOING 4 SETS OF 25 OR 100 A DAY. Pushups come pretty easy to me with these nice strong shoulders and back. (Sorry, shameless self promotion)
T-Mango did you feel the pushups I did last night?
By abc
June 29, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
Sexione, that is a crock and a half.
Laney, keep your eyes, mind and heart open, in order to recognize one who appeals to both head and heart. That’ll be the one. Leave behind the ones who fail, and don’t be afraid to take a chance. “Better to suffer open rebuke than hidden love” —Proverbs
Good luck!
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
Good Morning Everyone!!
I have NEVER met a guy that I fell for instantly. I’ve met men that I was attracted to but emotions for me are something that develop over time. I think the fact that I’m very analytical plays into that…Emotions are totally based on my brain telling me that it’s okay to like this guy. In other words, if he doesn’t meet a certain criteria, I can’t even open up to the idea of dating him. So for me, it’s ALWAYS a rational decision decision when it comes to dating….
Now, with that being said, once I’ve fallen in love it is hard to let go…but I do! Usually, after I’ve stayed too long….
By Jokester
June 29, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
A BOSS WALKED INTO THE OFFICE ONE MORNING NOT KNOWING THAT HIS ZIPPER WAS DOWN AND HIS FLY AREA IS WIDE OPEN. HIS SECRETARY WALKED UP TO HIM AND SAID “BOSS, THIS MORNING WHEN YOU LEFT YOUR HOUSE, DID YOU CLOSE YOUR GARAGE DOOR?” THIS WAS NOT A PHRASE THAT HER BOSS UNDERSTOOD, SO HE WENT INTO HIS OFFICE LOOKING A BIT PUZZLED. WHEN HE WAS ABOUT DONE WITH HIS PAPERWORK HE SUDDENLY NOTICED THAT HIS ZIPPER WAS NOT ZIPPED UP. HE ZIPPED UP AND, REMEMBERING WHAT HIS SECRETARY HAS TOLD HIM, FINALLY UNDERSTOOD . THEN HE INTENTIONALLY WENT OUT TO ASK FOR A CUP OF COFFEE. WHEN HE REACHED HER DESK, HE SAID “WHEN YOU SAW THE GARAGE DOOR OPEN DID YOU SEE MY HUMMER PARKED IN THERE?” THE SECRETARY SMILED FOR A MOMENT AND SAID “NO BOSS, I DIDN’T…ALL I SAW WAS A MINI-VAN WITH 2 FLAT TIRES.”
By Sexione
June 29, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
abc thats what I thought when I read his post!! lmsao
By Slim's Boss
June 29, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Slim due to logistical problems, admin errors, our 2009 budget cuts, and 12 other factors that I cant discuss with you now, we’re gonna have to cancel your vacation next week. Don’t worry, we’ll reschedule it for sping 2010. And thats the truth. LOL See you monday.
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
Good morning Everyone!
Laney, I wish you much success in your academic and career endeavors. Live your life richly. Keep your focus and NEVER let anyone tell you that you can’t.
This is a good topic. One thing is for sure: Life will teach you a thing or two about love, relationships, and what you need from both.
So do you put your heart or your head first when it comes to dating? And what happens when they disagree? Should I end up with Mr. Big because my heart says that there’s something special there, even though my head says he should treat me better, for example? I started my current relationship by telling him that I am not jumping “heart first” into anything. I must safeguard my heart at all costs. I know what it means to love, share, give, sacrifice and accept in a relationship. But, it is wise to not immediately do all of those things from the beginning. Emotions easily fool women if they allow those emotions to take the lead. It is a huge mistake to accept mistreatment because you allowed your heart to lead. If the person does not make you happy, or does not give you what you need, how can this be love? Do you instead love the idea of love? When the heart and head disagree, search within and ask yourself what you truly desire in a relationship. Compare those desires to what you are receiving. Be prepared for the truth and resolve to do what it takes to move on. The pain of holding on is much greater than the fear of letting go.
How can you learn to ignore your rational side and go with your gut, or ignore what your heart is telling you and listen to the reasonable pros and cons in your mind? Often times, our “gut” (instinct) is telling us this is wrong.
Which is more important when it comes to love, your emotions or your reason? This may contradict what I just said: Both are important, in my humble opinion. You might become cold and callous if you totally dismiss your emotions. However, I firmly believe that it is important to live life with no regrets. You cannot account for what someone else does. Be honest with yourself about what your relationship expectations. Communicate those things to the person you are in a relationship with and also understand their expectations.
What experiences have you had that tell you the truth of this? Life is a teacher. You either learn from your experiences, or repeat them over and over and over again. After the demise of my last relationship, I had to fight the urge to become hard towards men. I feel empowered when I remove my heart from the equation. I have a sense of control knowing that I am not vulnerable to my emotions. I know the question is for specific examples. Just can’t think of any right now.
Have a Powerful, Productive, Prosperous and Positive Day (and weekend)!!!
Life is not how many breaths you take, it’s how many moments take your breath away.
Shut up Musing and GaMan.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
GA.man Don’t worry, that wasn’t the same mug *Truth used as his spit cup. I actually put that cup back in his fridge. When I went to grab it this morning it wasn’t in there. I hope didn’t use that to marinate his chicken in. Ugghhh blech!
WORKOUT UPDATE: Slim went to get her hairdone, sat up under dryer long enough to put me to sleep, left there ate a side salad, picked my toe jam for about 3 minutes, took a hot tub bath, lifted all the crap off my bed for about 15 secs and went to sleep. Truth how many calories do you think i burned?
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
June 29, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this
Morning All!! TGIF!! Margaritas with umbrellas to the WLB in celebration of SlimOne’s vacation (cant hate on someone for taking a breather) and hugs with cheek-kisses to the MLB
On topic: in regards to Biff’s* statement, I agree with Sexione. While we as women have some fault I wouldnt blame it all on us. Men havent always put women on a pedestal. Look at all the men back in the day that had multiple families (and wives that knew about it but stayed). Women had to do certain things then that made us more dependent on men than today. Now as women gained independence it came with a price or a sacrifice, I will admit that. So now we struggle to find that middle ground. But WTH is Man’s excuse? Why cant a woman who is handling her business be respected and given hers props (granted she aint crushin a man for fun in the process)..
Just my 2 cents….LOL
By SeanJohnson
June 29, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Sup Blog…Good luck Laney
cosigning the Biffster…women can say what they want…but once upon a time…they were cherised, valued..and above all taken care off….These days the lack direction..and really dont have a clue about the opposite sx
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
Jake
That’s not even a concern for me…I would never look to a man define what special qualities and value that I have…I look for him to recognize them…God gave me most of them…the others I worked at! If there are men who struggle to find my value…it’s cool, keep it moving! But I won’t allow my self to be used…that’s a women’s choice…we either allow ourselves to be used or we don’t!
But I strongly believe that even the most progressive of men can truly recognize the value that women bring to a man and family…I don’t see this as an issue!
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
Slim’s Boss I need to see you in my office.
Slim grabs bosses hand and sits him down in the chair. She straddles him, leans over REALLY close to his ear and whispers “If you fail to comply with my allotted vacation time and/or plans, I’ll tell your wife that you’ve been sleeping with the UPS driver, you have photshopped pictures of you and Paris Hilton on your pc, and you enjoy wearing women’s pumps & lace thigh high stockings. I WILL have my vacation.’
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
(yawning) Mawning!
Best wishes to you, Laney!! You’ll be missed!
I always lead w/ the heart. Then, about 10 seconds in, my brain kicks in, kicks me in the butt, and I apply common sense to the situation. But, my heart is strong!! And don’t let there be some chemistry. Lawd! Chemistry is another way of saying, all rational thought has walked out the door, and emotions have taken over. Chemistry is my kryptonite. LOL!! I’m joking, but I have learned over the years that recognizing chemistry is the quickest way for me to forget all that home-training and common sense I’ve learned, and end up getting my feelings hurt.
My motto: Everything in moderation.
By SeanJohnson
June 29, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
@ Sxeone..your 9:14…u might want to retract that entire post…based on some of your previous posts
By crazydiamond
June 29, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
ladies, I am sorry to bring this to your attention, but when guys put you on a pedestal, then you are not interested. This in turn takes the nice guy and turns him into something else, something that causes you to have to figure out whether to use your head or your heart. If your heart was more open to the guys that treat a lady the way she should be treated, then and only then will the two halves be combined into one and you wouldn’t have to figure out which part to listen.
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
Jake My thoughts…
It is a limp excuse to say that the woman has brought this upon herself. It speaks volumes to the lack of a person’s character if they must use a person for selfish gain. Additionally, they have low self-esteem issues. Why do you need to use and demean another person to feel good about yourself? When do morals, values, respect for self and others come into play? In one sense, men are like pets. They are trained to behave and respond a certain way, depending on the stimuli. Like playing fetch. You throw the ball and chase after it, while the dog is standing there looking like Scooby Doo…Ummph? LOL! So yes, if things change, they do not know what to do and may behave badly. To some degree, feminism has caused men to say, oh, you want to be like me? So, what role do I play now?
I agree that the landscape of dating has changed. But of course, so has the value system…anything goes…it’s your thang, do what you wanna do…let’s be friends with benefits…etc., etc., etc.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
Mo Thanks homie. Make sure mine is top shelf. Matter of fact, all of the WLB gets top shelf, give the MLB the cheap stuff.
By Jake
June 29, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
Musing Thanks for the cup of Joe, now Sexi, come back over here and bring that funky attitude with you..LOL
Now lets try to be objective, there will always be a percentage of men who abuse women, and there will always be a percentage of women who go against the grain a sell the puddy, but as you know I always speak in terms of the median.
I believe that the movement has hurt women in relationships. The sexual revolution and feminism has helped create an atmosphere for women to be seen as purely sexual objects, there is a reduction in the reverence that men had for women. Granted the are individual women who hold your feet to the fire, but in general women have helped degrade themselves. Where do artist find all the women to shake dat azz, oh yea they just announce that they need girls for a video.
There is a reason that men don’t treat women the way they use to: YOU DON’T HAVE TO!!
I’m not speaking from a personal perspective, this is just social commentary..lol
By crazydiamond
June 29, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
Bill Withers - Use Me
My friends feel it’s their appointed duty They keep trying to tell me all you want to do is use me But my answer yeah to all that use me stuff Is I wanna spread the news that if it feels this good getting used Oh you just keep on using me until you use me up Until you use me up
My brother sit me right down and he talked to me He told me that I ought not to let you just walk on me And I’m sure he meant well yeah but when our talk was through I said brother if you only knew you’d wish that you were in my shoes You just keep on using me until you use me up Until you use me up
Oh sometimes yeah it’s true you really do abuse me You get in a crowd of high class people and then you act real rude to me But oh baby baby baby baby when you love me I can’t get enough I and I wanna spread the news that if it feels this good getting used Oh you just keep on using me until you use me up Until you use me up
Talking about you using me but it all depends on what you do It ain’t too bad the way you’re using me Cause I sure am using you to do the things you do Ah ha to do the things you do
By Sexione
June 29, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
SJ specifics? Nope, I said it and I’ll say it again!!! lmsao We are who we are, no matter what someone else says or does………..so even if a woman acted a certain way, if you are a true gentleman, you are going to treat her as a true lady. I’m just sick of all of the excuses for why “we do this and we do that”…….maybe it’s because that’s who “we” truly are anyway…and that goes for men & women.
LDD & Mo very well put!!!
By Biff
June 29, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
Couple of points:
A lot of bitterness shown by certain chicks. I suspect they don’t recognize why they feel that way. Its because this feminism thing took a wrong turn and left chicks and dudes with a lot less of a chance at real healthy relationships. This flows into the next point about guys putting chicks on a pedestal and that turns them off-they seem to want to be treated poorly for them to have interest. That is part of Laney’s question today.
Because chicks don’t appreciate dudes who treat them well we have learned how to act to conquer you. And you are getting what you deserve. I understand this but I don’t like it and don’t think it is healthy for us or our culture here in America.
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
The sexual revolution and feminism has helped create an atmosphere for women to be seen as purely sexual objects Jake But, it is a mistake to use a broad stroke. Unfortunately, men who accept this belief approach a woman who cherishes and values herself as they would one who does not. Still, I believe that a person’s character guides them, not the actions of others.
By Sexione
June 29, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
Jake I’m right here sweetie….ready for my….well you know…….lol Yes, I speak from the median too. My views are that we have all made it what it is today….women and men. Now what’s the solution? Blame each other? Stand for what is right? Go with the rest of society and use the excuse that “everyone is doing it”? Not I!! I stand for what I stand for……and no one can make me be any different (in a bad way), no matter how stupid (or disrespectful) they act. And I know there are some real men out there, who are looking for a real woman……..and until the one for me comes along, I will be solo……….’cause I refuse to allow that mess into my life. Just sayin………now come here…….lol
By Jake
June 29, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
crazydiamond cosigning the 9:45.
Not trying to start the all out war Ladies, but Biff, had a point, he comes off harsh often, so some might have dismissed it off the rip, thats why I keep my flashlight wit me…HEHE
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
June 29, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
SlimOne now you know its only top shelf for the WLB*!! Got to get this friday started right.
Jewel I agree with you on needing both reason and emotions. Its hard to have a real relationship without both coming into play.
By MsUnderstood aka MsU
June 29, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
BEST WISHES TO LANEY!! Great Topic!! ^5 to all the Ladies. Christian hug to all the fellas.
Sexione you are defineltly on point!!
NCGirl you are too funny; i remeber those days.
*Slim *enjoy your vacation…
On topics: I have met some guys who deserved an oscar for their fake acts they put on. My advice is pray.. if you meet someone whom you feel qualified to date again pray and don’t ignore the flags weaving.. A lot of brother wear masks. Ladies zip your emotions up cause they get us everytime.. Guard your heart at all time.. and weigh your options
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
The sexual revolution and feminism has helped create an atmosphere for women to be seen as purely sexual objects, there is a reduction in the reverence that men had for women. Granted the are individual women who hold your feet to the fire, but in general women have helped degrade themselves.
So, are you (Jake/SJ/Biff and other blog men) saying that it would be better if women stopped working the pole, stopped making those flix you love so much, and wore June Cleaver-wear everyday? It would be better if we weren’t so independent and sexually liberated, and you’d be alright with us no longer rocking the mic for 16 bars? (*Thanks to SJ for that one! LOL!) Cuz, you know those ole skool women didn’t do that. You might get a burlesque show, but no more strip joints, etc. Oh yeah, and that woman that can make $100k and help you create the lifestyle you’d like to become accustomed to, that would be gone too. She’d be a stay at home mom, pushing out babies on a regular. And if the marriage ends (b/c there would be no shacking up first, or sex before marriage), you would be paying alimony *and child support.
Is that ok, boys?
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
Question Where and from whom did the idea of feminism originate? What were the dynamics that deemed it a necessity for women?
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
Slim how did you know about the lace thigh highs and pumps? OOOOppsss I blew my cover. LOL
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Good point, NC Girl! LOL!
Jewel waits to see which male blogger will be the first to attempt to talk with both feet in his mouth…
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Jake But that’s the point…MEN NEVER HAD TO TREAT A WOMENT RIGHT…they chose to because of their own values and morales, not because women weren’t prevalent in the workforce. If seeing women in the workforce de-values her somehow then there is a problem within the man. Now, shaking your azz on TV is not what feminism is about so I think it’s misjustice to use it in that way…they’re abusing the benefits that feminism as afforded them. But I sincerely don’t think there is a valid point made here against feminism as the reason why some men don’t see the value in women? If you can’t see clearly…trying changing the lens in which you’re looking out!
Not you of course…
By crazydiamond
June 29, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
Lady Dark- You are correct in one part, men didn’t have to treat you right, but in the past they were rewarded for treating you right. Now days men are punished for treating a lady right and rewarded for being the opposite. Just like a Dog, what happens when you reward them for innappropriate behavior. It becomes second nature and others seeing this will follow suit….
By abc
June 29, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
Personally, I’d prefer to support the woman. I don’t consider so-called ‘independence’ and ‘sexual liberation’ positive characteristics. To what flicks do you refer, porn or something? Not my cup of tea. There has always been sex before marriage, as far as that goes — shoot, 11% of people still wait until married.
While there’s nothing inherently wrong with a woman who wants a successful career, she must acknowledge that it certainly does put a crimp in any plans of marriage and motherhood, at least in any ideal sense. Even at that, though, I tend to chafe at chicks in the workplace, they’re so often missing pieces of their puzzle as far as professionalism goes — ruthless, man. I’ll never work for a chick again, absolutely never.
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
How are we defining feminism? Is the definition of feminism equal pay for equal work? Same rights as a man…the option to do a job that was solely a male’s job? And you guys say this is the reason why you no longer value us….seems twisted to me!
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
Truth OOOOppsss I blew my cover. Now that’s sad, a man shouldn’t have to blow his own cover. Let one of your fellow MLB’s handle that for you. lol
Oh yeah, I know about the thigh highs and pumps because when you leave the office I go put them on and dance around blasting Jamsey P’s Nookie Tonight. whatchu know bout dat
By C tha 1
June 29, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
Most of the time I read Biff’s comments, take them w/ a grain of salt and move on w/ life. But in his 10:01 post, along with crazydiamonds’s previous 9:45 post, I can’t help but co-sign. Ladies, you say you want to be treated w/ respect that includes honesty and everything else attached to it, but you are turned off by guys who put you on a pedestal. However, yall respond to negative treatment by being submissive and loyal to men who are not completely honest with you and who certainly don’t put you on a pedastal. It seems men have to walk a happy medium.
I would say trust your mind over your heart … but I’m a dude, its easy for me to say that, but I’ll admit it took a little trial and error to put into practice.
By crazydiamond
June 29, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
Just to be upfront, I support Feminism 100 percent. You should make the same money for the same job, you deserve the same rights as men, my comments have nothing to do with feminism itself. It has to do with the other changes of women over the years…
By abc
June 29, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
Feminism started roughly around the 1840’s, with women who wanted the right to vote, which was finally gained with ratification of the 19th Amendment in 1920. In 1923 the first draft of the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) was drawn up, but it’s never been ratified. Renewed interest in ERA in the late 60’s and through the 70’s constitutes what people think of as feminism.
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
crazydiamond Once a guy get out of their 20s are they rewarded for being a dog…I don’t think so. Alot of married men, who cheat, won’t even tell their closest friends that they’re creeping on their wives….they don’t want that image associated with them.
By Lacey (formally purplepassion)
June 29, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
Good morning Everyone: I always to use lead with my heart and got it right on the head. Since being single/unmarried for the past eight years I have learned that technique aint working no mo. Thru trials and tribulations I have learned to lead with gut instinct and so far it has not lead me down Heatbreak St except for once with the ex. I leave all that mushy feeling out and see the person for who they are what their intensions are instead of what I vision it could be and by doing that I save myself and him a whole lot of unnessary time.
Truth Update on my excerise yesterday-I took my daughter to the pool and while she swam around I pigged out on chips and spinach dip. After that I went home and excercise my brain to see if I’m smarter than a 5th Grader, and I am NOT smarter than a 5th grader. Tip the evening off with some pomagrante juice and went to la la land.
By QC
June 29, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
Morning Bloggers
Sorry i’m late with coffe, muffins, latte, water, assorted tea, & donuts.., i know how you need your friday morning fix Ga.Man so enjoy everyone i’ll check back in later. Now adding a little rum to GMan’s new mug so he can have a nice hot “coffee royal”
By Blatino aka BMW aka BLT
June 29, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
…. bullet-proof vest; check. helmet; check. .38 in the ankle…. check…..
Pre-fight bow to the WLB’s, tribal spear raise to the MLB Royal Guard.
Wow. Had to leave with bang, huh Laney??
@Sexi1 n Slim1…. ya’ll trippin. See, when men were runnin thangs the right, biblical way, women were not to be abused n mistreated. But since so few followed the path, that’s what happened….
NOW, with the “sexual revolution”, guess what? Men are STILL running things…. The scales may have shifted some, but the balance tilts toward us. Only now we are free to get what we want when we want from any one of you that allows it and feel no guilt becuase THAT’S WHAT YA’LL SAID YOU WANTED….. even though deep inside it’s not. Basically, women nowadays want the security of that loving man giving them what they want n need but the freedom to roll around and do as they please…
Sorry mama. Can’t have it both ways.
…Grand Poobah now retreating behind the Roman style shield wall awaiting WLB projectiles….
By Jake
June 29, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
NC, Don’t get it twisted, there have always been places where men can go see nekked women, but hellz, now you can’t see the booty for the chick and her chick-dude in the Timbs who beat you to the stage…and even June Clever rocked the mic for 16, but no one would ever know…lol.
LDD Yea, thats why I treat’em right, but a woman can go from a lady I’m feeling, to a piece of azz at the drop of a dime…if she chooses that treatment with her behavior.
But you know I love ya’ll ladies, soft bite on the earlobes to my WLB sweeties.
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
Thank you, Professor ABC. LOL! Now, put that into the terms of dating, as Biff pointed out in his earlier post to spawn such a lively debate…
Gentlemen, stop generalizing your statements. Frankly, I do not want to be put on a pedestal. I am human and might fall off. However, any self-respecting woman (this includes me) wants to be treated with kindness, tenderness, love and respect. You know, the little things, the simple things.
By abc
June 29, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
Yall must be in about no shape at all, I declare! Yesterday after work I did 144 reps of dips and pullups, 300 reps of various abs exercises, and 30 minutes on the elliptical. Day before that was for legs and abs; today is upper body and abs. I hit the gym 4-6 days a week, and then go home and walk my dog for 2-3 miles. Doesn’t anyone else in here exercise regularly?!
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this
There has always been sex before marriage, as far as that goes — shoot, 11% of people still wait until married.
But it wasn’t as expected as it is now.
Dayum…every other week it seems, the women take a bashing and the guys get on their soapboxes about how we don’t let them grab their bizalls and pound their chests enough. WLB can we agree that we are not here to emasculate? Merely to educate and yep, empower. Personally, I find it totally ridiculous that men are so threatened by a woman’s ability to achieve that he says things like “it interferes with her abilities to be a wife and mother.” So, you going to work everyday doesn’t interfere with your ability to be a husband and father? Please elaborate on that, b/c apparently men have some superhero powers that we don’t know about, or perhaps it’s a delusion that it’s ok for them to only work and pay the bills, be a part-time parent and the women are only allowed to serve their every need, be a full-time parent, and gladly accept whatever the man doles out. You guys want it both ways. You want a woman who takes care of house, kids, and you…but you also want her to bring home a paycheck. And you say women are bad drivers! Sheesh! Pick a lane, please!
The bottom line is that men and women need to get over it. It’s called progress. I’m not, by any means, saying that you should ignore history. But, it’s history (and not the present) for a reason. There are certainly things we can take from our parent’s and grandparent’s generations, and perhaps some of those ideals should be better incorporated into our so-called modern lives. But, one of those lessons was that women are quite capable beings. We don’t want to be controlled. We want to be appreciated. Perhaps you should look at what you’re doing in your lives and how you treat the women in your lives, and ask yourself, what are you (men) doing to earn the type of respect you expect women to give you. You guys kill me blaming women for your feelings of inadequacy. Yeah! I said it!
By crazydiamond
June 29, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
Lady Dark- If through there 20’s they are rewarded for being the type of guy that doesn’t have to show respect, then how do you expect them to revert back to being who they really should be. They got their wife by being that man, they will remain that man. Remember the phrase, You can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Once you have learned certain actions get certain rewards, then you will not change. That makes it even more important to not go after those guys, because you are setting yourself up for dissappointment later. When your head is telling you that this guy doesn’t treat me right, then you should listen to it. Once you find that the heart and the head agree, then that is when you have found something special.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
June 29, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
First of all we must stop lumping everyone together. Not all women are unappreciative of a man who will put her on a pedestal just like all men arent dogs. This goes back to the discussion we also had about backgrounds and their influence on how a person acts in a relationship. Ex: Take the mother that stayed with the father for the kids and the father had another family somewhere else. Now that mother is telling her daughter things like “take care yourself, be able to provide for you, etc”. Can you blame that girl that grows up with an extra heavy dose of feminism? I grew up with both parents in the household and my father always told me “no one can take care of you like you”. Now on one hand I could have turned out to be the ultimate she-woman, I-dont-need-a-man type chick from that advice. But as I got older, Dad came to me and revised that. He advised me that the same way I should be respected by man, I have to remember that men value certain things too (being needed, being able to be the “man” in the relationship) and to not step on his toes. That doesnt mean that I cant be me, just understanding the roles both sexes play in this game.
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Co-signing NC’s 10:47 Enough said.
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
crazydiamond I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I will only add…the way men stop is when they mature and decide that they want more out of life than the next booty call. When they recognize that they want to be a family man and the behavior in their 20s will only jeopardize their future family. When they begin to get tired of the games that they play and that women play. If they are not there yet, then women should run and run fast!
By Tazzee
June 29, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Morning all! I popped in to say farewell to Laney - Laney, I wish you the best as you move on to bigger and better things
Now onto this whole feminism discussion. Unfortunately ladies this is how men feel. Do I think it’s our fault? Hell to the naw! Its not that the woman degraded herself - she got to the point where she didn’t NEED the man for survival and because a man’s ego isn’t getting stroked in the same manner as in the past - he feels that he shouldn’t cherish the woman. It really is a sad state of the man’s mentality. If a woman works and takes care of herself - she is no longer precious? That is a short-sighted POV. I would think a man would take pride in the fact that a woman that could take care of herself chose him as her covering. But before a lot of men can get to that point of being chosen, they cower in their egotistical corners and think ‘woe is me, she has her own house, car, good credit - what can I give her? waaa, waaa, waaa’
And don’t EVEN start that bull about women throwing it up in your face. That may have been the truth of the matter a decade or so ago, but most successful women aren’t running down their list of accomplishments to potential suitors (although the men are and then wonder why they only attract ‘gold-diggers, but that’s another topic). Women aren’t running around proclaiming their independence - but as soon as she decides to do something for herself (usually because her mate was too slow to handle it) then you start crying ‘it’s not in the way she says, but she does certain things to let me know…’
And to take a step further - women don’t let it come out of their mouths until a man pushes her to a point. So busy trying to proclaim that he is a man and staking his rightful place - talking the ‘I’m the Man’ without walking as a man - that you push a woman to finally let go of trying to stroke your ego, trying to make you feel like a man, putting up with your shortfalls - that she might just blow and let you know that yes - she does not NEED you.
Sure, there are some women out there that haven’t learned how to be treated by a man. But there are far more men out there that can’t look past the status of a woman to even try to treat her like a lady. And that my friends is a testament to the sad state of man’s mentality - not the feminist movement.
Now - I am in meetings all day today, and I know I’m going to get a citation for my long post and some rebuttal from the fellas. Unfortunately I won’t be able to dialog with you guys today - but trust, I will be reading up later.
Have a great weekend bloggers and again I wish you the best Laney
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
SirBlat Um, i’m not tripping. I haven’t said anything. I guess you just happened to have Slim on your mind. Now keep it moving before I tip you over with all that armor on. You know it’s a bip trying to get back up.
By Lacey (formally purplepassion)
June 29, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
C the 1 I can’t speak for every woman but I myself respond to being treated good. I enjoy being appreciated. Some men tend to put every woman in the same category. Sure you have some women who are rough around the edges because being disrespected is all they know or maybe that’s what they’ve become. Me on the other hand I have never been treated so cold and manipulated until recently. It’s like some men have an agenda and they don’t care who they burn along the way. Not all women are power struck. There are some women out there who carry themselves accordingly. A man builds up, a boy tears down.
By C tha 1
June 29, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Alot of married men, who cheat, won’t even tell their closest friends that they’re creeping on their wives….they don’t want that image associated with them.
LD where did you pull this from!? Not to give away any secrets, but a dude’s closest homeboy is gonna always know when they gettin some extracurricular on the side. He may not be aware of the exact time and place, but trust me your homeboy is gonna know. Why? Well if wolves roam in packs then that means one wolf knows the behaivoral pattern of the wolf next to him.
For example, my dog … my ace married his college sweatheart. Honestly, this was a minor miracle, because if she knew half of what I know it would not have happened. He claims he told her everything cause they have definitely had ups and downs … I laughed … he laughed w/ me, cause he knew what I knew, shyt we lived it. So now they’re married (and I love both of them and continue to wish them well), but I don’t have to ask about his personal creeping because 1.) I know when something ain’t right, and 2.) he usually tells me before I can ask.
By abc
June 29, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
NCGirl, you’re reference to it as ‘blaming our feelings of inadequacy’ is poignant, in that nobody has stated that there are such feelings except women. Men don’t feel the heat of competition in the workplace from women. If that’s what you want, then fine, but along with that you have to acknowledge that you’re less attractive as a mate to most men. It’s not to do with ‘feelings of inadequacy’. It has to do with a man’s natural tendency to want to be the provider, and to have a woman who will support him in that endeavor.
I’ve said it before, my ex’s total focus on her career scuttled our marriage. She made me change careers so she could pursue hers, forcing us to move to Atlanta against my will, obsessing 24/7 about her work, coming to ignore me completely. Sucked.
By Sexione
June 29, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
But, one of those lessons was that women are quite capable beings. We don’t want to be controlled. We want to be appreciated. Perhaps you should look at what you’re doing in your lives and how you treat the women in your lives, and ask yourself, what are you (men) doing to earn the type of respect you expect women to give you. You guys kill me blaming women for your feelings of inadequacy. Yeah! I said it! Preach sista, PREACHH!!!!!!
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Sorry mama. Can’t have it both ways.
Yeah, Blatino, neither can y’all.
Jake June Cleaver might have been rocking the mic, but it was once a year, on his birthday, and she went back to her separate twin bed after. Oh, and she was probably wearing her do-rag SJ. My point is, you guys talk about things going back to the old skool, and I don’t think you’ve examined just how much you benefit from women today. The downfall of society is not due solely to feminism.
Not all women are unappreciative of a man who will put her on a pedestal just like all men arent dogs.
Amen, Mo!
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Slim already falling into vacation mode and refuses to read all these long azz posts. Dayum it’s Friday!
By Lacey (formally purplepassion)
June 29, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
WOW ABC if you’re trying to get muscles like Popeye all you got to do is eat spinach and if it’s the Incredible Hulk go out and let somebody make you made LOL
By SeanJohnson3000
June 29, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
@ NCATLIEN…thats the thing…NONE ..Nothing is more important than the family unit…if u are married…the wife and kids…too often i see females look for so many other things to define them…career..edcuation..(masters)..money.clothes…cars..big houses..looks….not hating on no one..but in my world…i dont give a flying 747 about none of that shyt…these days..my smiles come from SJ 2.0 reloaded..
By GA.man AKA "Mr. Entertainment
June 29, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
ok Jewel you know you behind is getting a citation for your earlier loooonnggg azzzzz post so pay up!!
GaMan grabs Jewel’s Granny purse and hits her with it
Thanks QC you know i love your friday morning’s you bring the good stuff….
Wow ok In life you have to rmember to treat anyone like you wanted to be treated…*Ladies if you want a man to R.E.S.P.E.C.T. you then dont knock him on the little stuff…trust me we get enough of that on the job
Fellows….we know there are some Women who..act a fool..then try to figure out why we don’t want to see them anymore….sometimes the best lessons in life are learned when you have time to reflect…not only about what he/she did..but what we did to help/hurt the situation
GaMan takes of his Montell Williams suit and joins Musing in the Green Room
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Here Ye Here Ye I’m going to need all of you violators to sum up all that you’re saying in no more than 3 sentences per post. I left my adderall at home and my ADD is kicking in.
OfficerMusirello What’s your 20? You’re supposed to be patrolling blogsville. One more screw up and you’re getting a time out with pay and a free body massage.
By Sexione
June 29, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
So today has turned into one of those us vs. them days, where not only will nothing be learned or gained, but we will yet again set the dating game (and gender relations) back another 100 yrs. Thanks!
Guys, if you all feel this way, then maybe you should look in the mirror first, fix what is wrong there, and then venture out. Same for us.
Time to dip….have a good weekend all…..peace!
By T-Mango
June 29, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
I’m multi-tasking today…
Interesting posts on the feminism sub-topic. Mo…I co-sign with your 9:28PM. I also have to say that the fellas have a point about women responding to negative treatment and being quasi “suspect” at times of those that treat us with respect. How many of you have heard a girlfriend say “He’s just too nice?” Sad but true.
I’ve noticed some cats try to do the “negative treatment/disrespect thing” with me to see how I respond. Then, they are like WTF?? when I cut them loose. In some cases they try to come back trying to apologize, but I suggest that they keep it movin’. Chances are quite a few women before me took their BS and in turn they became conditioned to thing that every female successor would take it too. Not true…
However, I think it is unfair to blame it on feminism because not all women subscribe to its idealogies. For those that do, I think women who disrespect themselves or allow themselves to be disrespected set the movement back. Feminism does not mean that a woman deems a man as having less value. It simply means that females are loving and fighting for our womanhood similar to the way you love and fight for your manhood. That’s the root of many our our debates…he said/she said. Not only are we wired differently, we are viewed differently im mainstream society. Along with gender, if you throw race in, the picture changes even more.
@Truth-Nice work on those push-ups.
By Jake
June 29, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
C tha 1, i was wondering where LDD, got that statement too, your dawg always know, hellz, sometimes an accomplice.
NC Now I didn’t say the downfall of society was feminism…ya’ll so crazy.
By abc
June 29, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Lacey, I just try to keep it tight for the girl’s benefit, and for overall health and functionality. Everything is still completely operational, ya know!
So, yall are not happy with men’s preference for old-fashioned women. My girl is very old-fashioned in those ways and in a lot more. It has much to do with what I find so appealing about her.
By MsUnderstood aka MsU
June 29, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
* NCGIRL* ^5…
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Ctha1 My girlfriend is dating a married man and I’m really close to his bestfriend. The bestfriend has no idea that they’re sleeping together…But this is because the married man wants to keep an image of the successful family man around his family and friends…
Also, my SO say he wouldn’t know if his bestfriend was cheating…doesn’t ask those kinda questions once he got married…
If it’s just my circle then I stand corrected!
Now, when I hear a man say that a woman is less attractive because she works…that screams insecure or inadequacy. But I undestand that most men want their women to work…and be successful…
Am I wrong in this assumption?
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Tazzee (When you read this later) Has come in and cleaned up this blog! Co-sign your post. I told my man, no matter what material things I have, what I accomplish or achieve…there would always be a place where I need him in my life. I AM WOMAN enough to admit this fact. A real man knows this, finds that place and shines.
By For Real
June 29, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Ok here we go again….
Don’t lead with your heart because those decision are based on feelings. Feelings change from one moment to another. Thus, 90% of those decision will be followed with regret and remorse. The brain is the most powerfull weapon on the planet. Use it!!!!
All women aren’t ladies. All men aren’t a man. Just because you say you are doesn’t make you one. Your actions are the only way people able to determine the truth about you. Here another little hint: Whether you are considered a man or a lady is determined by the person who is considering you. You can’t force me believe you are lady if I don’t believe you are.
Mothers are/have raised their daughters to be single. This is a contributing factor to the increase in divorce (over 85% of all divorce are filled by women), single parent homes and women that are single well into their 40’s.
Here are some quotes that most of you have used or I have heard from women:
Don’t depend on no man.
You don’t need a man.
Can’t no man do for you what you can do for yourself.
You can do bad by yourself.
You are independent and strong a man will just hold you back.
Don’t make the same mistake I made.
You can always have a family get your career first.
I am the mother and the father.
Ain’t nothing a man can do that women can’t do better.
Now, if woman spits these mantras to a man why in the hellz would man want to be with that women when all you have said is I DON’T NEED OR WANT A MAN?
By abc
June 29, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
LDD, yes you are wrong in that assumption. For the most part, a man won’t care a bit whether you have a successful career, flip burgers, or have no job at all. It’s not important to men. A man will appreciate your devotion to him, and the industriousness with which you make a home and provide comfort, ergo take care of him, and that’s the crux of the issue: women resist that these days. It remains appealing to men. It’s not insecurity, nor feelings of inadequacy, or anything like that.
Now, is it feminism that brought it about? Is it absent fathers, i.e. ‘baby daddies’? Is it a sexual revolution, downfall of society in general? Which came first, chicken or egg? Who invented spray-on tanning, and why? Who knows.
By C tha 1
June 29, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
LD the only way a dude may not be aware of his homboy’s extracurricular activities is because he has a life of his own that requires more attention. When I stated that when I’m aware of my homeboy’s affair that’s when I spend a couple of hours around him, which doesn’t happen on a regular basis.
Of course as a married man he has a certain reputation to uphold … an investment to protect, that may require a littel more secrecy, but as far as my homeboy … well I just know better. Personally, I don’t put nothing past anybody I don’t see with my two eyes.
By For Real
June 29, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
NC It’s not a blame game but nothing ever seems to be a woman’s fault. If a man reacts to the so called strong independent woman based on her actions then the man is called insensative or doesn’t respect your feelings. Sorry Slim but your example prove this point. When you cried in front of ole dude and he told you tears never solve anything you got upset at his lack of consideration of your feelings. But in a man world, strong and independent men don’t cry. And please don’t come back with men do cry ish.
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
Fellas, in the great space of time what we are experiencing today is an experiment gone bad. The best thing to do is sit it out because the tides have already begun to change. The thing that women desired the most, independence, has brought them the thing they hate most,loneliness.
Jewel don’t try to insert my song (Simple things) in your reply to gain points, because it worked. LOL
Nipples that is so untrue. Me and my boys fess up to everything. They are as close to me as my family, actually closer because my family was chosen for me but I chose my friends.
Ok, let me be the voice of reason here. I’ll be as fair and unbiased as I can. Here it goes. Ladies, you are wrong as hellz and you need to change your ways. See that was simple. J/k
I do wonder where that desire to have a woman went. I look around and nobody wants the others product anymore. (This doesn’t apply to you ladies who cook and are freaky, excuse me, comfortable as hell)
Jake welcome back bruh, haven’t seen you in a day or 2. You come back kickin in doors and stuff. LOL
NCGirl there can never be progress past nature. What you are asking a man to do goes against what he is, and as we are seeing, it cannot work.
To all the ladies in the room. You use terms like boy v. man or mature v. childish alot. If a man wants what you want, children, long term relationship, responsibilty, then he is a man to you. But if he wants what he wants, happiness, toys, no responsibilty, he is a man to himself. Which one do you think is more important to him? There is no great honor in assuming responsibilty that you never wanted, a life you hate, or accepting being miserable as a daily occurence. For most men life without you is simple. With you it is complex and less rewarding. And I do say that knowing in my heart I love women to death. Alot of times though your just not worth the work it takes to be with you.
Regular disclaimer, yadda yadda yadda.
Wattup Blat baby? Wear that shield with pride. Don’t worry, if Slim tips you over I’ll pick you up.
MLB for life.
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
Question to the Men….so since all the men know when/if your bestfriend is cheating on his wife…what do you tell him? Do you reward him for that behavior by high-fiving him?
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
It’s not to do with ‘feelings of inadequacy’. It has to do with a man’s natural tendency to want to be the provider, and to have a woman who will support him in that endeavor.
And yet, you judge a woman who has all of those things as being one who is a “less attractive mate” b/c you automatically assume that she won’t support her man in being the provider. Dayum! It must be Friday, b/c we’re having another Can’t win for losing conversation. Why is it so hard for men to do the same?!?! Why is it so hard for a man to support his woman in her endeavors? And yes, those endeavors might mean she’s clocking dollars! So what?!? You benefit, if you’ve got a good woman! And I’m sorry SJ, you know I love you, but every woman who has a good job, a degree or two, and even a house of her own isn’t above letting a man be a man. You guys want so much to believe that the only way you can be a provider, be the man of the house, is for her to have and be less than you. That’s just degrading, I’m sorry. She can’t acheive so that you can?!? Is there no room for each party supporting each other?!? If the answer is no, we are all in serious trouble, and I think I’ll just bow out of the dating scene altogether. What’s the point?
By Officer Musirello
June 29, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
Crashing down the blog doors “Terminator” style riding a black scooter bike….shooting up er’computer in sight
These post are entirely too long…LOLOLOL..Yall know I can’t focus through 10 paragraphs.
Kicking Tazzee and T-Mango in the shin and driving through the nearest window
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Truth Your wrong…there is great honor is assuming responsiblity of a child that you didn’t plan for or want, but as a MAN who takes accountability for his actions…he takes responsibility. If you teach boys that there is no honor then you’ll only produce more deadbeat dads!
Now, who cares if a man wants toys, no responsibility, etc…do him! He’s no less of a man.
By Lacey (formally purplepassion)
June 29, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
For Real again not all women are saying these things. You all still tend to put women in the same category. I have and will never eva eva say that I don’t need or want a man. I have taken time off from dating because of the games but don’t think that I aint still looking. I’ve heard women in my family say the same thing and it makes my stomach turn when I hear them say that. All of the above that you just stated comes from women who have been burned a time or two, or just plain men haters. I know some woman who are married and will say Ain’t nothing a man can do that women can’t do better that’s a mentality that most woman has either inherited or developed. It’s like a competition going on who can be better at being a man.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
For Real I don’t want to participate in your show-n-tell today. I never said I didn’t need a man, or didn’t want a man, or was a mother and a father, or that a man will hold me back, or that I’m addicted to oxycotin. I’m the one that was wanting my ex to step up and lead us.
Slim now lowering her shades back over her eyes, making origami palm trees out of office memo paper, sipping grey goose and pineapple out of GAMANS mug again
By MsUnderstood aka MsU
June 29, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
NC You are SOOOO RIGHT The more i read this blog and just examine the people around me i am more convince that I’m better off single..
FOR REAL Men do cry some was just taught not to— so instead of crying leting it out they just act like a JA* and do stoopid stuff talk …
SO what if the woman brings home more than the man — that more money for the both of you guys..
By abc
June 29, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
NCGirl, it’s just one of many differences between women and men. A man will value you for your devotion to him. A real man won’t care one bit about how much money you make, or don’t make. But, men don’t want to rely on a woman for money. It’s not the natural order of things.
What’s more, a man won’t consider that a woman is less than he if she is what he wants. He’ll treasure her for what she is. He’ll consider her a blessing straight from God. That’s what the guys are talking about, and perspectives such as you elucidate tend to make it all the more clear. Women these days, by and large, don’t want to suit that model of relationship behavior, for whatever reasons. Yet, they still look for men that do suit that model of behavior, and men don’t respond to women’s behavior in the same way anymore, because women have changed.
By T-Mango
June 29, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
NCGirlfromATL- ^5 (11:54AM). I have wondered the same. It is a sad state of affairs and I don’t argue about it anymore. There are brothers out there that will support your endeavors, are not intimidated by your success and will take you/love you for who you are. It just takes time to find them. So, I’m just being patient and continuing to do the things that make me happy and my life worth living until he is sent into my life.
Officer Musirello…These blog tickets are getting expensive. Is there a payment plan available?
By C tha 1
June 29, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
LD I don’t high-five my dude for doing what he’s doing … pending on how funny the story is … he has to answer for his own transgressions. Honestly, he confides in me that he has a real problem with being monogamous … he has monogamous spurts, but struggles with long term monogamy, he is too used to variety. It stems from childhood actually. He asks tips from me because I’m the direct opposite (I’m no saint, but I don’t have a problem w/ monogamy).
I have a theory and I could be totally off base and some of you may think I’m full of it but here it goes. If a man has always dated multiple women throughout his life even since high school, he is gonna definitely have trouble committing to just one in a marriage. It doesn’t mean it is impossible … but hella difficult. I would dare say what keeps a man who is used to variety is not the strong love of a woman, but more or less what he tends to lose due to getting caught and pending divorce. If a dude has too much of his money (house, cars, other assests) tied up with his woman, trust me he ain’t trying to get caught up in what he’s infamous for because his life will automatically downgrade when the woman who helped him build the wealth leaves.
But in the case where he can stand to lose said assets and still maintain a certain lifestyle, the rules are a little different. Furthermore, when you add children to the equation, that can keep a serial cheater honest as well. Notice I said honest and not faithful … there is a difference.
By MusingLee
June 29, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Lady w 2D’s Actually I try to stay out of my friend’s love lives…Because er’Man is different, and sometimes people have to find their own way…Now if they came to me with it I’d tell them to do right by thier Women. But I really try not to get involved with it…I don’t wanna be in the chick’s face knowing all about dude dogging her out. That’s not cool.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
The more I read this the more it makes me think that we simply will never see things the same way. Who better to understand a particular sex as someone of the same-sex. Umm…world going towards woman loving woman to men loving me. Well I’m not feeling that so I think I’m going to start my own little Island and get some order. I’ll have the only hetro-island left in the world. Now that leaves only one problem…who do I choose to start procreating with?
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
NCGirl there can never be progress past nature. What you are asking a man to do goes against what he is, and as we are seeing, it cannot work.
Well, there you have it ladies! Proof that the Geico Cavemen will have a hit show! Apparently, the days of clubbing a woman over the head and dragging her back to the cave are not over. And who said chivalry was dead?
I find it interesting that men (who are clearly runnin’ thangs, up in here), seem to have the attitude that it’s our way or the highway. We either do it their way, go against our own nature (b/c clearly, being ourselves, despite what we hear on the blog, doesn’t really matter), and then we’ll live happily ever after…doing what they want, when they want, and how they want it. Frankly, the discussion is depressing me. As a single woman, it saddens me that men think I should change who I am, downplay my accomplishments, and forget all that my mom & DAD taught me to become the woman they want. Meanwhile, I guess what I want/need/desire doesn’t matter b/c he’s providing and I should just shut up and accept it. Nevermind all of the support I give him. Nevermind the personal cheerleader he has in me. But, then again, you aren’t supposed to get a medal for doing your job, right? I guess that’s why I’m not in a relationship now. I have done that, and the return on investment (remember that?) was disappointment and unhappiness.
I’m gonna lurk for a while. This topic is too depressing to continue.
By Got that?
June 29, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
Laney, never trust your heart. Use your head. It will save you lots of heartache.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this
C tha 1 If a dude has too much of his money (house, cars, other assests) tied up with his woman, trust me he ain’t trying to get caught up in what he’s infamous for because his life will automatically downgrade when the woman who helped him build the wealth leaves That is a reason a lot of guys that have said wealth aren’t getting married. They rather just bed hop whenever they need the company of a woman.
It’s funny but me and ex-man were discussing the lotto. He said if he won he’d definitely give me a large amount of the funds but he would more than likely not be with me. However, if I won, then he’d try to marry me. It was sad to hear that but i guess he was being honest.
By Got that?
June 29, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
It sounds like some people participating on this blog have some serious issues, with people of the opposite sex that they have dated in the past, that are still incomplete. Let’s face it, men and women need each other. Arguing over who did what to whom only serves to push the sexes further apart. Whether admittance of fault is accepted or not, the truth of the matter is both sexes are to blame for the way things are today. There’s always someone of the opposite sex enabling a certain type of behavior, which is why it’ll never cease. People, stop blaming everyone else for all your problems. Look in the mirror and deal with the ugly reflected back. Then, you might develop the capacity to deal compassionately with the ugly you see in everyone else.
By abc
June 29, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
Shoot, NCGirl, you’ve made your choices, be happy with them! You can’t have everything all ways… as I recall the main point of the ROI discussion was that if you expect such a return, you’ll be disappointed every time, because the nature of love is to discover what you can give to them, not get from them.
By Linguist
June 29, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
@Laney Had to pop in here and say good-bye and good luck! I’ve enjoyed reading your posts and responses to some of the craziness we have going on here! You will be missed.. BTW, going with your gut never steers you wrong..
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
Someone 10 pages ago said that a man needs a womans income to achieve the lifestyle he desires. That is not a man. I want a woman that works, but if she gets layed off she should know that papi got this. Thats where I have a problem with the fellas. You can’t use her to come up and then get on her for doing it. Raise yourself up first, then go take responsibilty only for the things you want in life. Stop Another note that whole independent lady stuff usually comes 10 minutes before the “I want kids and a family” line so decide what is most important to you ladies and pursue that. Stop The skills necessary to be indenpendent are totally different than those needed to be on a team.
NC bowing out is a great option. It will probably give you a better chance at finding what you want in life.
Nipples my boys handle their business and I handle mine. Thats the nature of our relationship. I don’t judge my partners on their selection of who they sleep with. More specifically, if my boy is in a situation where he feels he needs to cheat, I support him. Hell, if she’s down we’ll choo choo the broad. When the relationship goes bad after he gets caught, I support him. When business is good, I support him. When business is bad, I support him. Get the drift. My allegiance is to him, not his wife or girl. We are talking friends of 15 yrs plus here, of course, not some cat that just rode up. Me and my boys have much shared history.
By crazydiamond
June 29, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
I personally think that a smart, successful woman is about as sexy and beautiful as it can get. I have no shame, I would let her be the bread winner and I will be the stay at home dad. The way I see it, I would put in the first 5 years until they go off to school. then while they are at school, I would have time to keep the house clean and get out for a round of golf. then get back to the house, sober up, get the kids off the bus and start making dinner. However, that is unlikely because of how much I make in my career. Would I give it up, yeah, if the situtation showed we could live on her income alone. I believe one of the parents should be home with the kids, I don’t care which one, but I honestly think this is the real reason for the direction society has been heading. It has become a me first society instead of a family first. It is what I like to call “Preoccupation of our own Existence”. This isn’t a man or woman thing, it is a society thing.
By GA.man AKA "Mr. Entertainment
June 29, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
Ssssllllimmmmm…give me back my mmmmuuuuggggg!!!!!!
Come on people….Stupid is as Stupid does
Why can’t we just say *I’ll treat her/him cool and expect it back…….goood goooosshhh almighty…dang..
For the record i would tell any home boy of mine..treat a woman right…if you got sisters and a mom…would you want someone to treat them like that
It only takes a second to mess up a good thing….just sit back and enjoy life together..we are all gonna get old one day..do you want that to be by yourself..even if you have kids they will grow up and have thier own lives…
By "Longtime Lurker"
June 29, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
@Laney
Here is my .02 about your farewell speech.
This whole issue you laid out has to do with maturity, how you feel about yourself and where you are in you life!
As we go through life,we often gravitate towards people who have something in common with us or people who have something that we would like to have!
It may be material,it may be professional, it may be emotional.
I have said it many times on this blog, that we attract what we are! So, with that being said, where ever you are in your life at the moment is what you attract and who you are!
If you don’t really love yourself or feel good about yourself, you will attract people who will use you, mistreat you and screw over you and leave you in pain.
It you have high morals,self worth,goals and celebrate “you”, you will attract like minded individuals who appreciate and respect you (in most cases).
You have to start with you and take a hard look at you and make the adjustments!
Best of luck on the next chapter in your life!
LL
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
GAman Okay, okay. You can have your freaking mug back on one condition. I’m trying to get this Hetero-island started. You mind putting a little baby making juice in this empty capri-sun pouch?
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
NC sorry you see it as depressing. I actually see it as great time in history, to be single. You no longer have to tow anyones line. You can now do whatever it is your hearts desire. We all wanted to be free and now we are and we have to deal with it. You are being judged on what you project and what you do so if your actions aren’t getting the desired response, change them. Ex: If I wanted a lifelong mate I would simply change my thinking patterns and wahla, she would appear.
Nipples I went back and reread your question and the answer is no, I won’t be the one trying to keep your mate faithful. Thats your job.
ABC what kind of dog do you have? I have presa canrios. Do you do any work with them or companions? Oh yeah, you’ve been posing some nice info lately.
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this
Got That Very well said. You too, ABC in your 12:08 post.
Relationship Rule #1: Men and women communicate differently. So, how do we find a happy median?
Acceptance Self-respect Respect Understanding Willingness to look at self and to not play the blame game
By Laney
June 29, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
You guys are all so sweet…I am going to miss you! You know you can always email me at laneyajc@gmail.com.
By crazydiamond
June 29, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
This is going to prevent me from ever being part of the MLB, but I don’t care, the WLB are better looking, so here goes. I am not going to be specific, but you have a prime example of the types of guys women today go for right here on this blog. However, these guys are the same ones that are causing you to be single, divorced, etc. Somewhere down the road you had a nice guy as a friend and you never opened your heart to the chance that they could give you everything you want in a partner(confident, supportive, etc). However, because he saw you with those other guys he figured it wasn’t worth it to keep being the nice guy and keep going home alone. Then, you are all to quick to call him up wandering why the other one acted the way he did. So not only do they end up just being your friend, they have to hear you complain about the azzes you have been seeing. This inturn makes him jaded and causes him to loose respect for you and women in general which then leads him into becoming the very guy that just crapped on you.
I know this sounds kind of bitter on my part, I am not. However, I was for awhile until about 6 months ago. Now my only purpose for bringing this up is that I try and get more women to see this. My sister finally realised it when I pointed out a long time friend of hers and mine that was into her. She listened to me and they got married last week after 1 year of dating. She wasn’t interested until I pointed out the things that she wasn’t seeing in him because she had seen him only as a friend. As for myself, I think I found someone that is exactly what I am looking for in a woman, so I am heavily in persuit trying to carefully run the obstacle course without falling into the dreaded “Friend Zone”
By Machine Gun
June 29, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
Okay, first time seeing this blog…. Sexione, I is in lub wit’ you gurl!! You had me from the beginning! A strong woman who will speak up and stand for what she believes is right (even if I don’t agree with it 100%) :-) …and a plump … too! Lawd, Jesus!! Where do I sign?!? Bow chicka bom wow !!!! Holla!
By MusingLee
June 29, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
T-Mango The only payment plan available is my “Neked Payment Special”, but it requires a strong back and leg muscules….Depending on your performance your ticket will be erased or raised.
By Linguist
June 29, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Ling, severly under the weather.. climbing out from under the covers to address… @ABC …“A real man won’t care one bit about how much money you make, or don’t make. But, men don’t want to rely on a woman for money. It’s not the natural order of things”….. ummmm… Where do you live again? The Netherlands? The Galapolous Islands?? Puh-leaze…Don’t try to sell that bridge.. most “men” wouldn’t give a sista the time of day if she were slinging burgers at Burger King. I’m all for “keeping it real”, but not for being foolish..
Ling, now getting back under the covers, but not before grabbing her wonder woman shield for protection from the MLB
By Blatino aka BMW aka BLT
June 29, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
@NCGirl… to late for me to catch up.( i hate doing actual work).
But to your post about we can’t have it all… Sadly enough, and this ain’t no disrespect ma, but we CAN. We have for aeons and will continue to do so so long as ya’ll allow it. And as long as there are more lonely women out there than lonely men, you will.
By T-Mango
June 29, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
@MusingLee LMAO. Your fiancee’ will kill ya-
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Truth * I went back and reread your question and the answer is no, I won’t be the one trying to keep your mate faithful. Thats your job.*
What question did you read? I don’t think it’s my job to keep my man faithful either! Only he can do that! My job is to be a supportive, loving companion…if he chooses to respond with monogamy then we’ll continue to make it…if he doesn’t, we won’t! Either way, I don’t sign up for things I can’t control! A man will do what a man will do!
The point of my question was do men glorify their friends for their cheating ways by slapping hands and such…positive reinforcement.
By Blatino aka BMW aka BLT
June 29, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
@CRAZYDIAMOND…. 100% Cosign from BMW the Grand Poobah for you my brother.
Anyone who knows my blog history here will attest that I’ve been there. I got sick of being exiled to the FZ. Even happened with my wife eventually. Then I was cheated on in both majore relationships i had in the last 8 years. Unfortunately, like you said I ultimately became exactly that type of guy they used to complain about. Even though I talk a good game about being a nice guy, I’ve never got less than three irons in the fire, and seriously question if I’ll ever be able to be 100% faithful to a woman again, even if i’m deeply in love.
Point being, please don’t lose being who you are my brother. Once you come over to the darkside, it’s hard to go back.
By For Real
June 29, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
Slim Let me be the first to give some potatoe seeds to plant on your new island. Oh and you have got to have some barely, wheat and hops.
Blog Ladies and Men
IT’S ALL ABOUT CHOICE!!!!
MEN
Woman:
By Lacey (formally purplepassion)
June 29, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
Men want to feel just as secured in a relationship as women do. On point Ling saying *most “men” wouldn’t give a sista the time of day if she were slinging burgers at Burger Kinging * Oh so true. Most men desire to have a woman who he knows can hold down the fork if something unforseen was to happen to his job. Most men know what they are looking for in a mate, whether it be a playmate or a helpmate.
By SeanJohnson3000
June 29, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
@ Dark Dimples…i wouldnt say we slap hands and glorify it…men tend NOT to get into each others personal lives like that…we dont interfere with each others home lives…so if a dude got a side piece..its on him…we dont comment on each others main lady that much..positve or negative…a man aint/wont let u talk about his..we are prtecttive like..TILL she do somehing extremely drastic and is no longer in our lives..women are the totally opposite at times…always commenting on each others man and giving advice
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
Question to the men Now, do you support your woman in her career choices and want her to be successful? Or would you rather her not work?
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
Notice I said honest and not faithful … there is a difference. C Tha 1 or any male blogger Please violate MLB rules and explain the difference. I ask not to judge or debate. I really, really, really want to know the male’s perspective.
By MsUnderstood aka MsU
June 29, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
@Linguist Girl you are so right!! @ Blatino you are right to a degree but that why this woman won’t compromise.. Also loneliness is a state of mind..
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this
Crazy this isn’t the market for nice guys. We live in a shark tank. People get hurt and its hard to stay nice when your wounded. Truth is we are all sefish bastards. We want we want and we’ll go thru anybody to get it. Its always has been that way and always will. Previous generations just created a better facade to hide it. There is no across the board solution. The only relief you get is winning the dating lotto and miraculously finding the person who will except you as you are, and then hope she/he doesn’t read this blog.
By Foots
June 29, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
Pick a woman that believes God, her man, and family are the most important thing in her life. Don’t pick the career minded money earning woman that put herself, her job, and anything else after God and come her man. If you are career minded, self first person that wants to be the head of your home, then don’t got after a career minded, self first man, that wants to be the head of his home.
It sounds more dramatic to go to the extreme, doesn’t it? There is always something in the middle that suits you, unless you are in denial about what you really want. Just pick that.
And hey y’all. I’ve been away for a minute, but this topic pulled me out of Lurksville.
By Foots
June 29, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
Blatino I know I’ve missed a lot in the last few months, but what had so much power over your life that it made you completely change who you are?
By Tazzee
June 29, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
My 2.5 hour meeting only lasted 1 hour - so I have a little time to hang with you guys!
First workout update last night: 40 mins on elliptical, 20 mins on chest and back, abs. Dinner - baked fish and salad. That was a great ending to the day. This morning: 25 mins on elliptical, about 10 on the punching bad, triceps and biceps, abs.
abc how about encouraging folks for starting a workout plan instead of belittling folks for not working out as hard as you do.
Got that? your 12:28 post was on point. Both sexes have contributed to the demise of relationships and I, for one, try to learn from each of my experiences. I wish I could get feedback forms completed at the end of each relationship men don’t engage in that type of ‘closure’, LOL.
I desire a lifemate but my potential relationships rarely get past the beginning stages. I usually get through the first instance where I have to do the ego-stroking, making sure he knows I appreciate what he’s doing, etc. But when the offenses occur (not being considerate of my time, not doing what he says he’s going to do) and I get coached by my ‘wife-trainer’ on how to properly discuss it with the guy - I usually wind up saying, I’m not going through all that junk - this really isn’t worth it.
Unfortunately, like many of the men have expressed regarding marriage - right now, for me, I don’t see where the benefits of a relationship outweigh all the petting, ego-stroking, reassuring and other stuff I have to go through in a relationship. And because I don’t want kids and I’m not sexually active - there’s nothing else out there spurring me to try harder.
However I will agree that in the grand scheme of things men and women need each other. We need each other to make this world work properly. So I’m working on me and my outlook on relationships.
In the interim - I am living it up enjoying life to the fullest. I still try and date and one of these days I believe I’ll run across the one that makes it all worth it.
By Blatino aka BMW aka BLT
June 29, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this
Whatup, Truth That post just earned a one month unlimited supply of Hennessy at the MiA bar….
MLB Council we need a vote. the MLB does have a need for a few guys like CrazyDiamond to keep the balance. I say we make him an honorary member. He can come to the meetings, but the URANG is off limits, LOL.
By "Longtime Lurker"
June 29, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this
@Lady Dark w/Dimples Your question is open ended! Your question depends on the man you are involved with and what that dudes expectation is of you!
Each cat is different! Some cat’s want you to do you and some don’t!
If you a do’er, then you need to be asking the hard questions upfront, if you plan to do or other wise you are going to run into some friction, with ole boy, when you try to do, if he aint used/ want chicks that are do’ers.
If you satisfied playing the house chick role, then sit on the bench and wait your turn! If you want to be president, make it known upfront!
Bottom line is this, don’t wait til you in the relationship, to find out what role you being recruited for! You either a player or a bench warmer!
By SeanJohnson3000
June 29, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this
@ DarkDimples…read 4real’s post..
but to answer your post…in a perfect world…and i had it like that..if i was married..my wife’s job will be to stay pretty.. fine and produce male off spring…but realisticly..i will support her in what ever she wanted to do or accomplish..provided the family..me and the kids were not neglected at all…we both are to be each others supporting cast.. but Fam is first..everything else is secondary…if a female cant get with that..she is not ready to be married and have a family..and its nothing wrong with that…just DONT say thats u want and dont lead a guy on like thats what you want…
By Got that?
June 29, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Jewel, it’s easy to be honest without being faithful. For example, say someone steps out on their partner. When confronted about the situation, they answer honestly that they did cheat. That’s being honest. However, being faithful is quite another thing altogether. Being faithful requires integrity, among other things. A person who is faithful has the integrity to honor their word despite what may be taking place in the relationship.
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
HELLO FOOTS! I asked about you last week. Hope all is well.
By Jake
June 29, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
LDD
On the question. You don’t tell’em nothing. See, the thing that most men do well is evaluate the consequences. He knows good and got dayuuumm well what will happen if he gets caught, he may act like he doesn’t know, but he knows. As far as high fiving, nah, thats his own headache, and he’s grown, so let the chips fall as they may.
By kinderbabe
June 29, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
hey everybody! hey foots haven’t seen you post in a minute…how have you been?
i can’t even think to speak on what has been said so far. just makes me wonder…
By MsUnderstood aka MsU
June 29, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
*@ FORREAL Hold up bruth!! I am a single Mommy. God 1st, family 2nd, Career 3rd, I don’t have time to sit back a twirl my dumb wondering when MR. Right gonna come along. Sure i would love to have a GOOD MAN in my life, however that not the case right now so life must go on… And because she is career driven doesn’t mean she don’t believe GOD. Who you think she gets her strength to do what she does from????
By Blatino aka BMW aka BLT
June 29, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
@Foots. SEE Truth’s 154 post But also for me it was an 8 yr marriage that I stayed in for love and duty but was cheated on, and STAYED, followed by entering the dating market here only to find that decent guys only serve two purposes in ATL, that of DrinkFairy, and Opposite Sex free counselor.
he may still be lurking somewhere inside, but it’s real deep, and i haven’t found anyone yet worth showing him too. the few times i have it’s not been good for me. So ya’ll just gonna have to deal with Blat aka BMW for now………..
By For Real
June 29, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
Lw/2D’s Now, do you support your woman in her career choices and want her to be successful? Or would you rather her not work?
Lets break apart your questions so that there no confusing my answer.
do you support your woman in her career choices - I would always want was is best for my SO and I would support her based upon on the situation. Such as:
Will her career improve our family - Will her career have positive or negative impact on the kids based upon current arrangement? Will we have to move to a new location? Will we spend more or less time together as husband and wife?
Current life style - Will her career have positive or negative effect on our current lifestyle. Will it increase our net take home pay? Will it decrease our net take home pay? If a move is involved and I will I be able to get a job in my current career at my current pay?
would you rather her not work? - Most def I would want her to work but that is my position. Some men would prefer their women didn’t work. It’s a matter of choice. My choice is you got to work. My mamma worked so shall you.
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
Tazz congrats on the workout. Sounds like a productive day. I’ll have to stepp it up a little to keep up with you. LOL And leave that puncing bag alone. We don’t need anymore TaeBo experts knockin dudes out. ABC was trying to be supportive, in a ABC kinda way. LOL
I think Slim has slipped out early.
By Tazzee
June 29, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Hey Foots
For Real - I definitely agree with your advice to pick someone that has the same mindset as you. But I doubt there are a lot of career-minded women like the ones you paint in your post. Looking at my circle of friends (and some of the blog sisters please let me know if I’m off on this one) - we are career-minded, but do not place the career before everything. All the corporate women I know have the attitude ‘might as well make as much money as I can until my husband comes along’ - I don’t know one woman that won’t cut back or stop working altogether for her family. Now there may be some women in their mid-20s that are trying to achieve certain things professionally before settling down, but I doubt the majority of them put career before everything.
The problem comes when you try to build a household that includes your woman’s salary. It is then that she feels she HAS to work to maintain the household. Or, if you come across a man that is low on the income range - if she is the primary bread-winner, then when boss-man requires her to work the weekend, she’s gotta work.
By SexyCool
June 29, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
Laney
May the road rise to meet you. May the wind be always at your back. May the rain fall soft upon your fields. May the sun shine warm upon your face. May God hold you in the palm of His hand.
Miracles and Blessings - SexyCool
By Jake
June 29, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
LMao@Blat, decent guys only serve two purposes in ATL, that of DrinkFairy, and Opposite Sex free counselor.
The funny part is, he ladies know that’s true and just won’t admit it.
Truth
I didn’t mean to start no ish today, it just jumped off.
By C tha 1
June 29, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Jewell in the context in which I used honest not faithfull does not apply to all men. It was my attempt at showing how some men maybe honest with themselves as a person rather than honest/faithful to the relationship.
By MusingLee
June 29, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Random Thoughts
How did that truck pass emission inspection with all that smoke coming out.
Just because you are a pedestrian doesn’t mean you can walk into the street all Willy Neely like that.
Where do all of the McRib patties go during the off season…They seem really similar to the Rib Sandwich served in public school lunchrooms.
Why don’t people wear stainless steel jewelry…It stays clean, doesn’t rust, and would probably make a shinier tooth than gold or platinum.
By For Real
June 29, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
What up Foots Just couldn’t resist could ya???
It sounds more dramatic to go to the extreme, doesn’t it? There is always something in the middle that suits you, unless you are in denial about what you really want. Just pick that. Sometime you have to take it to the extreme that everyone can see the middle. There is no way a man nor woman can be HIGH POWERED CAREER MOGUL and then be a servant to God, husban/wife, father/mother, brother/sister, and friend. Serve God or serve man (man = HIGH POWERED CAREER MOGUL)
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Foots Slim walking by slowly with a scowling look Well, well, well. Look what the wind blew in. Hmph! So you think you can just pop back into our lives after leaving abruptly like that w/o a trace?…..Slim’s stare turns into a big ole smile as she grabs Foots and gives her a tight azz bear hug
Welcome back!!!!!! :-D
By MusingLee
June 29, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
SexyCool you forget to add…”May the doorknob hit you, where the good Lord split you”
Ouch! - MusingLee
By Tazzee
June 29, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
The Truth I use the ‘bag’ mainly for kicking. Two of my girls got that for me 2 years ago as a way to relieve stress, trust me that thing gets used often, especially when I’m dating, LOL.
By Foots
June 29, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
Jewel and Kinder I have been busy at work and haven’t had a lot of time to be on actively, but I read every now and then. Thanks for asking about me. How are things with you?
I hate to see that there are still the same old misunderstandings between the sexes though. Not that we’ll make any huge changes because of a blog, but to me, having the perspective from each other should make us think a little harder about what we want, who we are currently, and who we want to be. But days like this make my head AND heart hurt.
Blatino I’m sure you’re reeling from all of that, but when you change who you are for the worse because of unfortunate circumstances, and you can admit that you are no longer a good guy because of them, you really are giving your situations power over you. And we can’t have that, can we? Or, can we?
By abc
June 29, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
Truth, my dog is a retired racing greyhound.
LDD, I’d prefer she not work, but I support her fully in whatever she chooses.
Tazzee, I’ve found that encouragement or not, people will only get it into the gym when they’re good and ready! No amount of persuasion or cajoling will help, it’ll just irritate them.
By SexyLeggs
June 29, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Good afternoon everyone. Laney I wish you the best. You have this blog hopping with each topic you put forth. I believe Sexione’s comment at 8:15 this morning sums it up perfectly…
By Jake
June 29, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
I’m out ya’ll, gettin out early!
By SexyLeggs
June 29, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
Good afternoon everyone. Laney I wish you the best. You have this blog hopping with each topic you put forth. I believe Sexione’s comment at 8:15 this morning sums it up perfectly…
By SexyLeggs
June 29, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
Good afternoon everyone. Laney I wish you the best. You have this blog hopping with each topic you put forth. I believe Sexione’s comment at 8:15 this morning sums it up perfectly…
By Tazzee
June 29, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
For Real Now how many career moguls are out there on the dating scene. You need to define that term a little better.
I guess I would be considered upper management and lemme tell you - everyone around here knows I will leave in a heartbeat. God comes first and He is the one I serve. Yes the money is nice and I enjoy being able to go when I want, buy what I want, etc. But the key has been making sure I don’t grow too accustomed to the lifestyle where it controls me. The key has been not running up a bunch of debt whereby I have to work. The key has been not trying to make sure my possessions show the world how much money I make.
Trust me, if the right man came along, I would quit my job in a heartbeat. He’d have to be extra special to get me to have some babies though.
But yes, it is possible to serve God and make decent money. A person just needs to be able to keep everything in perspective and make sure above all else God is first.
By Lady Dark w/Dimples
June 29, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
Laney Thank you for the thought-provoking topics you’ve engineered during your time with the AJC. Best of luck is not necessary as I’m sure you will do well as you pursue your dreams. I hope that this isn’t the last time we will hear from you as the internet is a world wide web!
I wish everyone a safe and happy weekend!
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
Jake blogsville is like a prison yard. This thing could blow up at any time. LOL You just lit the match today. WE got the broads against the cats out here.
Tazz do they have one with breasts and a big head? I would pulverize that thing. LOL
Slim welcome back from your nap. Drop your right hand a little lower on Foots backside. Ooooh, thats sexy. LMAO
By For Real
June 29, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
MSU I never wrote that. because she is career driven doesn’t mean she don’t believe GOD Go back and read I always put God first. See reading what you want to defend instead of what was there. EMOTIONS, EMOTIONS….
Tazzee I am not saying that all women are that way but I have met a ton of women who in their 20’s wanted to be at the executive level and here they are in their 30’s - 40’s an executive wishing they had changed their priorities. Now, as to including the woman’s salary in their lifestyle, that is a choice. So if a woman chooses to be with a man that does make the money she does then she nor he can complain when it’s time to work. As you probably already know, the more you make the more you work.
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
Shoot, NCGirl, you’ve made your choices, be happy with them! You can’t have everything all ways… as I recall the main point of the ROI discussion was that if you expect such a return, you’ll be disappointed every time, because the nature of love is to discover what you can give to them, not get from them.
You missed my point abc. I fully understood the ROI discussion, and I wasn’t looking for something in return from any man. I make my own happiness, and if the relationship wasn’t good, it affected my happiness. But, I am happy with my life choices! That’s exactly my point! Why should I compromise what I’ve acheived, who I am, what I want for anyone?! But, many of the men on this blog (who could arguably be a cross-section of men in this country), have said that a successful woman is essentially a bad thing. Many of you seem to think that a woman who has a good job, and had some stuff before she met you is incapable of making you and the kids her first priority. I’m saying that women do it everyday! I’m saying that men need to recognize that quite often you expect a woman to compromise who she is to accommodate your egos. And if she won’t do it, then there is something wrong w/ her. You’re missing out on a lot of really good women b/c your egos can’t handle that she’s also handling her business. And instead of a*uming that she’s incapable of making you and family her priority just b/c she’s got brains, why not give her the benefit of the doubt. We do it for you guys all the time.
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
Got That Thank you for the response. Interesting. I consider honesty a part of a person’s character, which when practiced, faithfulness is never questioned. So, does a man consider himself to be honest if his wife/SO never questions his faithfulness? This is not a trick question. Again, just asking for understanding.
By Foots
June 29, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Hey Tazzee! Glad to see you’re here and spitting wisdom like you are. In my circle, the single women are very multi-faceted. They have careers, good friends, ambitions, and a true desire to be a partner. No woman I know is only one way, and that goes for the men too. The men I know with families and careers know that it is important to find a balance in order to have the type of happiness they want. That’s why the extremes that are thrown out get to me.
For Real What’s up, man? That’s why I said that you have to find your middle ground. You can love your family, love God and have a job. Are you going to get to spend 100% doing either of those things? Probably not, but to your point, if you did, you’d certainly sacrifice the other things. Key word = BALANCE.
Slim You know I missed you, gurl!! Muahhhhh
By Foots
June 29, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
Much luck and love, Laney! Keep your head to the sky (without letting it get lost in the clouds)!
By For Real
June 29, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
Slim How was the pre-vacation nap? Girl wash your face! Dang you were sleeping hard. I can see that Infiniti logo on your cheek. Here let me help you with that blouse.
By kinderbabe
June 29, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
foots everything’s good w/me. i was in school for summer semester and it ended yesterday. i’ll be glad to have the rest of the summer to do whatever.:) looking forward to hitting the beach and spending time w/the special people in my life. i’m w/you on the same old misunderstandings being hashed out day after day. it gets old…really old. sometimes i wonder, do people just really want to hear themselves talk or what?? lol i am convinced but 90% of people would much rather be right than be happy. all i can do is wish them the best. hopefully, at some point they will realize that vindication is very short lived but happiness multiplies.
By "Longtime Lurker"
June 29, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
@Tazz You spittin some gospel today! Who fired you up and told you it was Sunday?
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
Truth I don’t think so. I guess you want to play that game that For Real had a ball playing at the end of yesterday’s blog. Maybe you and him would like to make a quick re-visit. lol
For Real Why don’t you tell everyone how much fun you had playing connect the dots.
Foots You know it’s all luv. I wouldn’t be myself if i didn’t give you a hard time.
By GA.man AKA "Mr. Entertainment
June 29, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
FOOTS where ya been?…..
OK Blat….i vote to let crazydiamond in and i will make sure he doesn’t use the URANG….hold on i am writing all this down what else are his restrictions
By C tha 1
June 29, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
Jewell, here is another way to think about honesty versus faithfulness. There is a difference between a husband and a father. Now that I’m grown and have reconciled the differences I’ve had with my father I can say he honestly always done right by me and my brother. On the other hand, he has not been so forthright and faithful to my mom.
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
Heeeeeeeeey Foots!!
By abc
June 29, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
NCGirl, been there, done that, know better. Again, it’s not about ego. It’s about a career-minded woman ignoring me due to being so preoccupied with her career. Upon my complaints that we had become little more than roommates, her response was “know what? You’re right… I don’t need you or any man, you’re just a drag on my career.” And her career was being a public school teacher. She left me and her 2 kids to live in the same town and devote herself to teaching. Crazy.
Now, it’s not as if I’d think a lawyer would concede a point! Ha…
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
For Real I wasn’t really napping, more like resting my eyes. I’m in the benz today. I wanted to give the Infiniti some much needed rest. lol Btw, I don’t need help with my T-SHIRT today thank you. hehehe
By GA.man AKA "Mr. Entertainment
June 29, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this
Slim i got that deposit you asked for….hehehhehehehe
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
Kinder good point ” i am convinced but 90% of people would much rather be right than be happy”. Your probably right. I think alot of people blow off steam in here too because if any of us met Mr/Mrs right tonight they’d be awol on monday, probably never to return. LOL Where bored so we sit up here and talk crap. LMAO
Where’s Dr Kym?
Foots and Slim can you 2 hug a little tighter? Nice, real nice LOL
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
Jewel frowns at her computer screen while reading C Tha !’s 2:53 post. Okay.
By For Real
June 29, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
Slim HAHAHAHAHAH, that was a good one… I’ll let you have that one until you come back from vacation. You better rest up because it’s going to be on when you get back. Yo Dookie Shoot will never be the same
By MochaTreat
June 29, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
@Laney I wish you much success in all your future endeavors!! You will be truly missed!!!
@Kinder Hi fellow teacher! How are you doing?
@MO Hey girl! Mail call! @GAman I am still waiting…you know how to reach me…..don’t take too long!! Next month is my birthday month…we could always celebrate…let me know!!
@Foots Hey girl…how are you doing?
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
GAman Thanks, it took you long enough. What were you in there doing?…nevermind I don’t want to know. Okay, now all I need you to do is fill out these few 112 forms about your past health, school, mental past. Initial all the blue tabs and sign all the red tabs. I’ll also need to take a pint of blood and a couple strands of hair. I’ll get back to you with the results in about 4-6 weeks.
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this
Slim lets play. Put the dot wherever you want to hun. I’m game. LMAO Clean that dry slobber of your mouth too. That is slobber isn’t it?
MLB I vote nay on Mr Nice guy. First him, then Randy will come back, then we’ll all be having emotional outbursts and shaving each others leg. Hellz naw.
NC would wupp someones azz today. The first dude that walks by her is gonna get staight smacked. LOL
ABC it sounds like she didn’t leave you for her career, she just left you. No offense.
By Got that?
June 29, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this
So, does a man consider himself to be honest if his wife/SO never questions his faithfulness? Jewel, this question is not the question you should be asking. The real question is, who am I when no one is watching? That addresses the foundation of everything, namely integrity. Without integrity, all is lost. A real man or woman would constantly question their own integrity to see how they’re measuring up to what they claim they believe in. Others will see evidence of their integrity by their actions, even when they don’t know they’re being watched.
By GA.man AKA "Mr. Entertainment
June 29, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
Ok all i am outta here…gotta go see Bruce Willis blow some stuff up..but as ya’ll know i will give the details tom…
So until then…if you got problems…put GOD in them ..he can fix anything…you can take that to the bank….
One Love
MLB for LIFE
By kinderbabe
June 29, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this
truth lol that’s a good point about once you find someone…that’s what i did, which explains me being MIA.:) i guess it is a twisted therapy of sorts, blogging. some of us need to back up off the keyboard though and put those health benefits to work…lol. there are plenty of qualified psychologists in the atlanta area and beyond who would love to hear about all this ish…lol.
mochatreat hey, girl! my official vacation started today since i’m out of school.:) how are you doing? have any big vacations planned?
By GA.man AKA "Mr. Entertainment
June 29, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
Dang Slim…
As GaMan starts to fill out all of the forms….his hands fall asleep…..
Finally after 4 hours he is done…..
GaMan hands Slim the forms….she smiles and winks…he winks back and walks out the front door
By MochaTreat
June 29, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
@GAman and MO mail call
By MochaTreat
June 29, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
@Kinder I went to New Orleans a couple of weeks ago and I am going to Maryland next month…but other than that no…no big vacation plans. What about you? How are you going to spend the rest of your summer vacation?
By Jewel
June 29, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
Foots I am well. You know, this debate started in the Garden of Eden…Adam got in trouble and blamed God for giving him “that woman.” It is not written, but Eve probably told him, “Knucklehead. You were supposed to be my covering and leader. Who told you to listen to me?” Complete with a neck roll and three snaps. LOL!
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
abc I understand what you’re saying, but I respectfully disagree. It is about ego, otherwise, your feelings about the relationship and how it made you feel wouldn’t have mattered. Further, it wouldn’t have colored your opinion about career women later. But, my point is, it is possible for a woman w/ a career to make her family THE priority. My mom did it my whole life. Dad’s still hanging around after 40 yrs.
Oh, and I’m me…lawyering is just what I do. There is a difference btw a “career woman” and a woman w/ a career. I define the job, not the other way around (wink wink!).
By abc
June 29, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
Truth, maybe, maybe not. A few years later, she seems to shun men altogether. Or maybe it’s vice-versa. In any event, I’ll prefer a chick that has time for me. And, of course, the inclination to spend said time with me.
By Foots
June 29, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this
Hey Mocha, GA.Man and NCGirl!! kinder I know that you’re happy to see the end of another successful semester. Now you can feel free to frolic! I need to get out of the house more myself and I don’t even have any excuses for not doing so.
abc Yeah, that kind of experience would really make you take notice the next time you see the situation, i.e. career minded women. Even though we let situations define us, as Blatino points out, sometimes though, different people react to the same situation different ways. You may find a woman who loves her career that can also love you and lavish so much attention on you that you WANT her to go find a hobby so that you can have some time to yourself. You never know. You just got a bad apple. It’s not the career that’s the problem, it’s the selfishness of that individual.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
For Real Yo Dookie Shoot will never be the same oooh I’m shaking in my flip flops LOL! Who knows, by the time I get back from my vacation, it might not be the same anyway. Cold Busted! just kidding
Truth That is slobber isn’t it? Oh this on my face? Nah that’s not slobber. That’s left over Nair from me waxing my lips. Now come give Slim a nice big ole juicy tongue kiss. MUUUUUUUUUAAAAHHHHH!
Oops, did i get some of that on ya. My bad.
By For Real
June 29, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
NC So, if your SO would have ignored your emotional needs during your relationship would you feel the same? And by that I mean would just say it’s my ego.
By kinderbabe
June 29, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
jewel lol that was funny.:)
mochatreat how was new orleans? i wanted to go to the essence festival but school was my major expense this summer. i may do something like go to savannah for a couple days next month. no big trips planned though. hopefully, i will make it to the caribbean by the end of the year, maybe winter break or something.
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
Kinder I can either listen to Slim’s jokes or have a therapist keep asking me “How do you feel about that?”. I’ll blog, thank you. LOL How are you and “the guy” doing?
By Tazzee
June 29, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
Got that? there you go again! That integrity is something else and I like the way you put it. Who am I when no one else is watching.
And as much as we would like reassurance that our mate walks with the same level of integrity as we do, in the end we can only be sure about how we carry ourselves. In the end - if we are walking in integrity, even when others may not be - we can walk away from the relationship with no blood on our hands.
LL Man the gospel might get spat anyday of the week! Don’t get me started because I know that I am nothing without Him and I would be a fool to act otherwise just because I got a few $$$ in my pocket.
By Cinderella
June 29, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
Laney, Best of luck to ya on your new adventure! check in sometime….
On the relationship thing, listen to your head. Too many times we ignore the signs and flags by trying to lead with our hearts. When your head sees something good and true your heart will trust and follow.
By Mham
June 29, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
I totally agree with crazydiamond’s 1st post and FOR REAL’s post. I actually wrote a poem about it that I will be reciting at the Apache Cafe on Sunday lol. I love women but their independence can be a beautiful monster or an ugly swan at times. I look at it as being hard to relinquish and almost masculine in some sense. I admit to falling with my heart instead of using my head at times with the women I have dated. And you know what ladies and gentlemen… I would not change for the world. At some point in my life a woman that meant for me will be on that same page. It’s troubling to know that treating women in general with respect while dating initially will be probably place you in a category where most men don’t want to be… THE FRIEND ZONE!!! While you are there you lack the same sex appeal that is given to the guy or guys that show less attention. If a woman can appreciate a man treating her with dignity and respect while dating, THEN SHE IS THE EXCEPTION AND NOT THE RULE. We as single men and women in my opinion have to do a better job in sincerely evaluating their own self worth when it comes to dating. Settling for something that is not of your standards only signify that you may not be as secure as you may want the world to believe.
By Tazzee
June 29, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
NC high fives and air kisses for this statement Oh, and I’m me…lawyering is just what I do. There is a difference btw a “career woman” and a woman w/ a career. I define the job, not the other way around
Ain’t that the truth!
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
Jewel that was funny. Pretty good for a late friday afternoon.
ABC I said no offense because sometimes when they leave its a blessing in disguise. Just think of all the ish she would of put you thru had she stayed. As for me, anytime a chick doesn’t give me 100%, for whatever reason, I’m gone. I
*Slim you are on kissing ban for 3 weeks, or at least until that stuff drys up and falls off.
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
NC So, if your SO would have ignored your emotional needs during your relationship would you feel the same? And by that I mean would just say it’s my ego.
@ For Real: Yes. You can’t ignore that ego always plays a part in our emotions. Otherwise, what would be the point? Someone hurts your feelings, it’s about your ego taking a beating. Yes, they did something wrong, but if you didn’t care about them, and care about how they felt about you, then it wouldn’t matter. Ego is part of emotions. I think you’re taking “ego” to mean egotistical. That’s not what I mean.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Truth I’d be surprised that you even kiss at all going off some of the things you say. I get the impression that kissing is for the birds and too intimate for what you’re looking for. So Truth is there any truth in that?
By kinderbabe
June 29, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
truth that’s true u would be asked tons of “feelings” questions..and i know that most men hate that..lmao. “the guy” is doing fine. we’re getting along well but not to the point that it’s unbelievable, lol. i’m learning about which personality quirks are dealbreakers and which ones i can work with. so far he hasn’t shown anything that’s unbearable. i am happy w/how it’s going.
By QC
June 29, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
Have a great weekend bloggers…..
Slim, enjoy your vacation, don’t forget to bring me somthing back, lol
HOLLA, QC has left the building..
By Tazzee
June 29, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Any bloggers going to the Essence Music Festival?
By Foots
June 29, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Slim Have fun on your vacation! Shoot me an email when you get back in town and let me know just how much fun you had… LOL!!
By MochaTreat
June 29, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
@Kinder It was good…I went to coordinate and direct my best friends wedding! I also was able to spend some time with my bother and sister-in-law! I wasn’t ready to come back home! It was very hot down there! :-)
Savannah sounds really nice…my family is from there…so I use to go and visit every summer growing up. I went to Hilton Head last year for 4 days…I took a day trip to Savannah!
By SeanJohnson3000
June 29, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
Sup SugarFoot…good to see u post..
@ Slim…around this time everyday…u just be yourself dont u…
By For Real
June 29, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
**NC ACTUALLY SAID YES, YALL, READ IT SHE SAID YES!!! NOT YES BUT OR YES ALTHOUGH, OR YES AND NO!!!! OHHHHH LAWDDDDD! THE DEVIL IS A LIE.
By kinderbabe
June 29, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
mochatreat wow! that sounds great about the wedding…i know that was exciting.:) so, you’re family’s from savannah? my roommate from college is from there. when i go, i definitely want to visit paula deen’s restaurant. i watch the food network religiously and have heard a lot about it. have you ever been?
By kinderbabe
June 29, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
mochatreat wow! that sounds great about the wedding…i know that was exciting.:) so, you’re family’s from savannah? my roommate from college is from there. when i go, i definitely want to visit paula deen’s restaurant. i watch the food network religiously and have heard a lot about it. have you ever been?
By kinderbabe
June 29, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
mochatreat wow! that sounds great about the wedding…i know that was exciting.:) so, you’re family’s from savannah? my roommate from college is from there. when i go, i definitely want to visit paula deen’s restaurant. i watch the food network religiously and have heard a lot about it. have you ever been?
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Sean J I’m myself all the time whether it’s my right twin or my left. Not sure what you’re getting at. You know my mental state is on auto-pilot, be more pacific…hehehe I know, i meant specific. lol
When are you going to show me your true self anyway?
By Foots
June 29, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
Guys When you talk about being put in the Friend Zone, are you upset about the puddy that you’re not going to get, or are you happy that she had enough decency to not lead you on into thinking that she was interested when she wasn’t?
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the vacation wishes QC & Foots
Foots I think guys get upset about the FZ because that basically tells him, do not hope wish or pray that you get to touch this puddy. But if you never tell them, they seem to be okay with at least not knowing it’s an indefinite no. LOL
By For Real
June 29, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
When are you going to show me your true self anyway? EWWWWWW that sound like he is going to pull his skin off.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
4Real you always thinking something nasty. boy you crazy. Maybe you should meet me in Miami so I can push you into the ocean with nothing on but a dental floss speedo
By NCGirlfromATL
June 29, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
Peace & Blessings to you Laney!! Keep your head to the sky, let your beliefs be your guide, and find that lost shaker of salt in Margaritaville! LOL!
Like For Real from the closet, and Truth’s Jhery curl, I’m out!
By Lacey (formally purplepassion)
June 29, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
Everybody be good, enjoyed the posts. It’s been great. Have a happy and safe pre 4th weekend.
Best wishes to Laney
By Foots
June 29, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
Have a good weekend everyone!
By abc
June 29, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Well, this topic kinda died.
Yo mama so fat, on Halloween she say ‘Trick or Meatloaf’.
By MHam
June 29, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
@Foot: I will answer the first part of the question. I REALLY DON’T KNOW!! Timing is so important in answering this question. A woman may say that she want a nice, respectable man at that time, but then realize that she may have fooled her own self. I personally cannot answer it definitively because she don’t know what she wants definitively.
By The Truth
June 29, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
Slim have a nice vacation.
Bye Laney, good luck out there.
By SlimOne
June 29, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
abc You’re cwrazy!!!! Meatloaf? lol
Well peeps, I know you’re going to miss ole SlimGoody. You will be missed and i’ll try to chime in if i get next to a comp.
Let’s get this party started….poonnnnttt Oops I just farted!