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Money on my mind
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Hey guys! Today is the second installment of the He Said/She Said series for the Misadventures in Atlanta blog. I have recruited one of our great male readers Got That to weigh in on the topic of Men and Money.
I am not sure about other women, but in my experience, men get weird when it comes to their money. Whether it’s about the lack of money, making money, or protecting it - men just have these strong reactions and attitudes about money. So I asked a few questions to get more insight. Check out what we discussed after the jump and weigh in with your opinion:
She Said: What’s the deal with you guys and your money?
He Said: Making money is important, but only to a degree. If the basic human necessities are cared for, all excess is just that - excess.
She Said: How much does making money matter to you? Is it everything to you?
He Said: Most people collapse the success of their career choice with the amount of money they are getting paid. However, there are people who are successful, who don’t make a lot of money, and are very happy with their choice.
She Said: I meet lot of men who think that money plays a large part of his power. Are men driven by money?
Am I driven by money? No. While it’s nice to be paid on a level of the value created, it’s not demanded. There are a multitude of other non-monetized incentives that provide satisfaction.
She Said: How do you handle spending money on women?
He Said: When it comes to spending money on women, it can get dicey. I prefer that to be a two-way street. We are living in a period of time where women are making their own money. The old way, where the man spent money on the woman was that way because women didn’t work or didn’t have jobs that provided non-discretionary, disposable income. Things are different. Women are making a significant amount of money and it’s not fair to require the man to pay for everything all the time.
She Said: It definitely gets dicey for us too. How do we show that we are willing to pay without sending a message of “I am Ms. Independent, don’t need you to pay my way! Maybe we should start off doing it “dutch” for the first few dates, instead of waiting a few dates, like most of us do. So why does it seem as if you guys get weird when women mention your money, credit score, career/job, or money making goals?
He Said: It only seems that guys get weird talking to women about such matters if the subject of money is broached too early. There’s a time for everything. If a woman starts hammering me about money far too early in the relationship, I will back away and take another look at her, especially what’s at the real source of all those questions. No matter how much money or how little money is produced, if she has an attachment to money and her attachment to money is stronger than her attachment to relationship, then that’s a fundamental problem.
Thanks to “Got That” for weighing in on this topic. What are your thoughts? Do you agree?
Ladies, we catch so much flack for all the “gold digging” women that men run into in Atlanta, and in their previous dating experiences. How do you handle the money issue in dating? When you make more money, is it hard on you to balance the “power” that some men feel is taken from them?
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By GA.man
June 6, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
Good Morning..head nod to the ALL POWERFUL MLB…winks to the very SEXY LADIES of the WLB
First and foremost…let me say this…TRUTH and i have stopped the BEEF….my Lawsuit has been pulled
Ok now back to our regularly scheduled blog…..lol
MLB FOR LIFE
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
Happy Hump Day!!!
Sexi hair flip to the WLB, semi church hugs to the MLB
On topic…
I never bring the issue of money (or the lack thereof) into play. If a guy wants to talk about his money, okay, if not, okay too….and if he talks about it too much, it’s a turn off. What’s more important is the non-monetary assets. Now if some dude brings up money and appears to be in need (and maybe the type that will try to hit a sista up) then I’m out. I’m more interested in whether we are on the same page about life, period.
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
Good Morning All,
Wisey you asked him a question… How do we show that we are willing to pay without sending a message of “I am Ms. Independent, don’t need you to pay my way! and then you answered it.
I would like to here a few of the gentlemen answer that question because personally I believe this is a Catch-22, damn if you do and damn if you dont situation.
By Cassie
June 6, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
Well, I’m headed out of town on vacation, so this will be my only thought (and I mean that literally) of the day.
I’m not boasting, but I do make more money than any of the men I’ve dated. I just don’t talk about it. When we divorced, my ex hubby told me that my money making ability emasculated him.
Later, folks
By QC
June 6, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
Morning Bloggers Winks for all the members of MLB fresh coffee, & assorted tea & muffins in the Blog Cafe for all the WLB members….have a great day all….have a great vacation Cassie
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
Hair flip to WLB & an air kiss to MLB
I’ve never really come across a ‘money issue’ in dating. I don’t feel the man should pay all the time for everything or vice versa. In dating, if the guy has paid for our last few outings or whatnot, i’ll treat the next time. Or if the guy buys dinner, I’ll pay for the movie or snacks. It’s just a matter or respect and not coming across as ungrateful or as a spoiled brat who has to have it all your way. In my experience men seem to have appreciated at least the gesture of me offering to pay and I immediately see them relax. It’s almost funny when you offer to pay when it’s obvious he has not had the experience to put his money back in his wallet.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
Great Topic…Morning good people!!! Be back later!
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this
Morning Everybody…..A big kiss to the MLB and a wave, side step and hair flip to the ladies of the WLB
@Slim…last night I went back and read yesterday’s blog and realized you had an accident at work. Hope all is well with you….so sorry to hear about your car.
Not sure if any of you listen to V-103, but Porshe Fox is coming back…..I missed her show
On Topic
Regarding money matters in dating, I’ve not had a problem in this area. I’ve always offered to pay for dates or go dutch on the bill. Most guys don’t mind that at all. As the relationship progresses, the money issue remains the same. If we made big plans for a vacation somewhere together, we can decide who will pay for what or if we will split the cost of the trip, etc. I don’t put any expectations on my guy to pay my bills, so it’s never an issue while dating. .
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
Island Thanks for the concern but all is well. I was just a little disoriented initially.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
@IG…I am the same way even down to the gas…I can handle me for the most part and every other date take turn or pay in full if need be…I do get in binds from tme to time and it is much easier to ask for help from a SO when I down bc they know I can handle me but need help from time to time and he is more receptive and vice versa…I lend money and get it back and he lends money and gets it back…no games with money it is about business..It makes the foundation stronger when both parties can handle their own and help each other and not be a BURDEN!!!
I am glad to hear that Porshe Fox is coming back!!! She was my favorite in 02 and 03!!! Thanks for the info IG!!!
Again Great Topic!!! Disclaimer: As everyone know I love to read Got That? point of view…The brotha comes with it! Thanks Wise Diva!
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
@Slim….I’m glad to hear that.
By SeanJohnson
June 6, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
Sup Blog….i will sit back and see where everyone head is at on this one…
@ Kym…when you ask someone out you are responsible for paying for the date…just ask the dude out ..pick him up..pay the tab..take him home or have a night cap…if u want to pay for a date that he takes you out on….beat him to the draw….ask for the check…pull at your debit card..and tell him you got this one…he can get the next one…
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
Sup Blog.
Most of you have heard my stories about getting stuck with the check. I haven’t always been a lawyer, so the income thing wasn’t really an issue until about 3-4 yrs ago…and it actually isn’t a real issue, just a false perception. (Contrary to popular belief, lawyers don’t come out of school gettin’ paaaaaaaaaid!) Frankly, many of the guys I’ve met still make quite a bit more than me. But, I guess I’m a little more sensitive about it b/c I’ve been on the “guy” side of the table…kinda. There’s nothing wrong w/ going dutch, but it does feel a lot less like a date when you pay for yourself. I guess I’m a little traditional about that, I hope that he will pick up the check, at least for the first couple of dates. I’m interested in hearing the responses to Dr. Kym’s post too, b/c men on the blog seem to always be talking about the balance of power. I wonder how that is established if the woman is paying for her part of the date, right off the bat.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
@LadyJ….girl I know thats right…even done to gas. :-)
By Dark Brown
June 6, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
When Brown and I were just dating, money was not a part of our conversation. Most often, he paid, but sometimes, I paid. Because of our level of communication, I never had to consider whether I was sending any sort of “superwoman-destinys-child-miss-independent” message. For us, it was just a step toward the path that lead us to our partnership and commitment.
When we began to discuss moving in together is when he and I had our first real conversation about money related matters. In that, it was not a conversation about exact dollar amounts of our individual incomes, but more about laying groundwork for what the actual responsibilities would be in our household.
I truly believe that the biggest reason that Brown and I don’t have money issues is because we both make enough money to cover our expenses, meet all of our needs and a sufficient number of our wants. In addition to that, neither of us measures success by the size of our bank accounts. We both find our satisfaction in our quality of life, our friends, family and in each other.
And that’s not to say that we do not recognize that more money could mean and improved quality of life. It does not mean that we do not have ambitions, dreams, goals or actual plans. It just means that money did not buy us this love and it does not guarantee happiness.
By T-Mango
June 6, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
C.R.E.A.M…cash rules everything around me. Cream is the money. Dolla dolla bill y’all-Wu Tang Clan
Hair flip to the WLB(shout out to Slim…hope you’re doing betta) and a warm hello to the MLB
I think money is an issue in dating only if you allow it to be so. I just think you should stay in your lane. In other words, don’t try to ball out of control or keep up with the Jones’in an effort to impress someone if it is not within your means to do so.
However, I do think that financial matters should be discussed in situations where two people are serious and talking about shackin’ up or marriage. If we’re just dating, I keep it high level. We know what each other does and you have the opportunity to see more of the person’s lifestyle as you date them. Still, making money and money management are two different things. You can make good money and not be good at managing & growing it.
I’ve been in a situation or two where I’ve made more luchini than a man, but that wasn’t an issue for me and it wasn’t for him. Some sisters use their making of more money as a way to emasculate men. That’s not fair or right. From my perspective, whether I make 40K and he makes 60K or I make 60K and he makes 40K…it is still 100K total. So, if we form a long-term partnership/relationship,we would have more economic power as a couple than as an individual.
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
Off Topic Oh my goodness! How come folks can just let go when a relationship is over? Must we kill our ex as shown here
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
@NC…girl, we understand your pain. We remember your story. It’s scary to be put in the position where you expect the person that asked you out to take care of the bill- then doesn’t …especially if you’re also short on cash…ouch.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
@Dark Brown money does not buy happiness…I look at my ex-mother-in-law and know that for sure…I will never forget those piercing words after I gave birth to her grandchild that you know man j does not have to do anything for you just the baby…Anyway she does have madd old money and could very well though I was seeking it but I truly was not…Never been the materilistic type…I grew up poor and know where I came from and will never try to change that by moving to a metro area and being false through money and material things…But that sista is really sad and she has it all…She can’t believe how I bounced back with not asking them for anything and starting over and looking good doiing it…It is hard but they don’t see me sweat…But she has the bank account the cars, the houses, etc and truly unhappy…
By BlatinoBrutha -
June 6, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Official MLB Notice: GAMan and Truth have been again granted full access on ID Badges. There’s ice cold Heini’s in the fridge for ya’ll.
I’ve actually never been asked by any girl I’ve dated any real details about my money. If they had, they woulda been dropped right there. I understand why they ask, but I personally don’t want to date any woman who worries about how much I make. I’m a little over-sensitive to it based on past experiences, and I really hate the gold-diggers in ATL. Best way to get cussed out by Dee Blatino in Spanish and three other languages is to ask him for a drink without being offered one.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
It was like my survior instinct kicked in along with the maternal instinct and I have been on a positive roll with handling my business…I am proud of me I must say! lol
By abc
June 6, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
I think that the most important thing to a woman is security. Adequate funds equals security; confidence in monogamy equals security; faith in support of values is security. So sure, money is important, along with lots of other things.
I typically spend too much on women. I don’t mind, I can afford it. It has, in the past, led some of them to believe I was more into them than I really was, but that’s about the only problem it caused.
By SeanJohnson
June 6, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
@ Tango…i think in dating and money…people tend to pay too much attention to what “looks” good on paper…rather than whats really good..example…say you made 75k and i made 45k…one party or both parties make look and think that the female makes more money..she may be out of my league..or she make think he is not on my level financially…but if the one that makes 75k is up to the neck in bills and can barely make it but no one knows yet the one that makes 45k is basically debt free except for a mortage and house hold bills…who is healthier financial wise..
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
It has come to my attention that I missed a question. It’s not that I ignored it, I didn’t answer directly it because it had already been answered in the context of answering the other questions. However, as requested, I will directly address the question. She Said: It definitely gets dicey for us too. How do we show that we are willing to pay without sending a message of “I am Ms. Independent, don’t need you to pay my way! It’s all in how you do it. If you want your man to show you respect, then you have to show him respect. You can do it if you do it in a way that shows you respect his manhood and are not trying to show him up or make him feel bad about making more money than him. A woman can be powerful, but it doesn’t give her the right to be overbearing, rude, and obnoxious. I see a lot of powerful women come across that way, even though they don’t mean to. The problem is, when men call them out on it, they get an attitude like the man has the problem. Women do the same when they see men get out of line, but when the opposite is true, they get all up in a huff. The thing is, no one, man or woman, wants to deal with a weak person. Everyone has a tremendous amount of power. It’s all in how you wield it. Some do a better job than others. In conclusion, if a woman says verbally or non-verbally that she’s Ms. Independent, I’ll let her be. She has some fundamental issues she needs to work out around what it means to be related to other people. You can be independent and not let your strength be your weakness. Just like because I’m a man living in a man’s world doesn’t give me the right to be an overbearing, rude, obnoxious jackass.
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
On topic sub-q: How many people have actually been asked by a date (not an SO) how much money they make? Do people actually do that? Or is it done in a subtle way? I can’t ever imagine a situation where I would even hint at asking someone I was dating how much money they made. And job titles are deceiving (I’m a perfect example!)
By Dark Brown
June 6, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
Go, Lady J!!! It is despicable when someone can be so miserable in their lives as to use a joyous occasion as an opportunity to attempt to bring you down. Not only is the old hag a sad sack, I can easily believe that she is jealous of you, your youth and the relationship that you had with her son at the time.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
@Slim…that’s sad. Not making light of the situation, but whenever I hear of domestic violence cases I remember Martin Lawrence’s skit on “Run Tell That” …warning ladies about having boyfriends that are crazy and deranged….
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
GotThat How does a woman show she is Ms Independant non-verbally? Please provide an example. I mean it is a date in a resturant not a boardroom. I would think if a woman was trying to be Ms. Fat bankroll she would have shown her hand before you asked her out right? Who are these women, maybe one of them needs to be on here as a guest or if they are lurkering come out and say something in their own defense.
By T-Mango
June 6, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
SJ…I think we are on the same page and I agree “making money and money management are two different things.”
By Dark Brown
June 6, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
Money, power, respect. The keys to life.
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
Good morning to ev1 in Blogsville. My dam air conditioning went out and its hot as hell in here. OK, I’m exagerrating and the ac guy is here making repairs.
Someone on that Porsche Fox blog was using The Truth’s name. Dam impostors.
GAMAN I can rest now bruh. I didn’t want that thing turning into a Biggie/Tupac kinda thing. Blat can we get access to the beer frig now?
On topic. Alot has changed in the money department in the last few years. I’ve noticed more women volunteering to pay for meals, outtings, and even vacations which is a good thing. I’m still more traditional so over the long haul I’m gonna pay for 90-95% of the outtings but its nice to be asked out.
On the negative side, whether a woman has money or not she still wants the same thng in life. Homes, kids, vacations, etc… The only difference is a broke chick EXPECTS the guy to fund her fantasies while a chick with some loot can fund some of her own.
Is it just me or is a dutch date the most awkward thing in the world?
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
Got that You can be independent and not let your strength be your weakness. Just like because I’m a man living in a man’s world doesn’t give me the right to be an overbearing, rude, obnoxious jackass I agree. What folks need to remember sometimes is ‘moderation’. No one wants to be around a person that’s constantly harping on how many degrees they have, how much money they make, how many chicks/men they have, or all the high dollar materialistic things you have. Too much is too much. However, I also believe that if you don’t want a SO to look at you like a bank account, don’t market yourself as one with all the gab about what you bring home.
IG I do think for the most part folks show you the red flags that we like to ignore. But it does appear that at times a person who you thought was perfectly sane, can mentally check out under stressful circumstances. Take the lady that ran her husband over in the parking lot of the hotel where he was cheating on his wife. You just never know what the next person’s breaking point it. Dayum, a hammer though? That’s insane in the membrane.
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Dr. Kym…, two words: body language. When it comes to people, most communication is non-verbal. When dealing with relationships, even more so.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
@Dark Brown…Girl my grandma told me the same thing…She was intimadted by me from the begining…I am straight forward and direct and helped her son out of college and she even thanked me for that…It is funny how having nothing sometimes can be an intimadeting factor…That is when you know you got it going on…And I am not the least be concieted but I know who I am and where I came from…Beauty is within inside not the dollar we make daily!!! It means nothing it you are not happy and letting it make you!!! Wow I am about to start shouting up in here!!! I had a happy tear fall!!!
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
One last thing Dark Brown her son is nothing like her…He has helped me since the day he left…I had to tell him to stop paying my rent in the start once I went back to work so money was a thing to her not him…It is good guys out there even my ex bless his heart!! That is it with that…Thanks Dark Brown!
By Dark Brown
June 6, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
@ Lady J - And the church said, “Amen!”
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
Got that I understand a person’s body language can speak volumes so what body language says I am too independant and I can pay my own way?
Because I think while body language is speaking the translation is getting lost.
By Melo
June 6, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
How do we show that we are willing to pay without sending a message of “I am Ms. Independent, don’t need you to pay my way! @Dr Kym the how comes out in the way you carry yourself as a person and how you communicate. Two people can say the same thing but differently and the impresiion that leaves to the listener will be different.That is the crux of the matter. Do you stil say it in a feminine and loving manner in such a way that your date,friend or husband will apreciate u more or do you kinda flaunt your ability that it leave them wondering about all the other things you have said in the past that it creates kinda of a pattern of thinking? A lot of times people get into conflict, rejection etc not so much because what was said was wron, but the way it was said creates resentment. My experience is that when(some) women taste or experience what they perceive to be an advantage or power, they flaunt it in the man’s face so much that even friends,family members, neighbors etc, get to know about it. That demeans the men and the relationship goes south. I will give u a practical example in my next post of some going on in my extended family right now.
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
AMEN!!!
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
Truth has a point there, why does “dutch” seem to take out the romance and chivalry and make you feel as if you are out with the boys/girls?
if we are to adjust things for modern dating and allow for the change in who pays, etc. will we still have the same ideals about romance?
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
Dr. Kym…, I have a question for you. Why do think people have to be different in the professional life than they do in their personal life?
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
Morn’in All,
How do we show that we are willing to pay without sending a message of “I am Ms. Independent, don’t need you to pay my way!
Kym I think the best way to solve this is to offer to take the dude on the next date (assuming there is one)….I beleive that the Man should pay for the first date, that’s just how it is…but after about 3 dates my SO said “How about I treat you on our next date”…I knew then that I had a standup Woman…She didn’t throw anything in my face, she simply stated that she had a great time and wanted to treat me to a fun night out on our next date.
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Got That I will address your question after you answer mine.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this
@Truth…About 2 weeks ago a friend I went to Re Lobster…I had a gift card…We sat at the bar…We ordered…I was so eagered to whip out the gc to the bar tender and pay…I pd after I placed my order…He paid at the end but he did inquire about my bill bc he had went to the restroom when I pd so he did not know I paid…It was a wierd feeling and a pink elephant but we silently ignored it and went on to the play I brought tix for…Your point is well taken something is removed when the dutch factor comes into play…Great point and Post!
By BlatinoBrutha -
June 6, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Truth, see my 951 post.
By abc
June 6, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
I’ve never been on a dutch date. If she wants to pay and it’s important to her, that’s fine with me, otherwise I pay for everything. IMHO, any other approach is needlessly cheap — if you can’t afford to go on dates, don’t go!
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
June 6, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Morning ALL!! Happy Hump to Errbody!!**
I will step back in later to commnt.
Hair flip to the WLB and soft kisses to the MLB
For Real whats the song for the day?
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
@Truth….I agree going dutch can be awkward especially if your date isn’t fond of the idea.
@Slim…insane in the membrane..been a while since I’ve heard that line.lol.. True though.
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
I think alot of the things we are talking about with money have to do with internal struggles and past experiences. For example, I have met and dated quite a few guys from the Net. I personally will not response to a message from a man with a picture of himself standing posed arms outstretch in front of a car or home or bike..why? Because to me that is a bit flashy and shallow. Is your home and car what definds you as a person?
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
*Dr. Kym…, body language is just that - a language. In the moment, it speaks volumes. Body language can’t always be verbalized. It would be like trying to explain how red is different from blue to a person who can’t see color. However, if you want to see an example, go to a restaurant and watch the interaction between people. You don’t have to hear what they may be saying to each other to get a gist of what’s going on. Then, think about your interactions with other people. Even though you may say nothing, what do you leave them with? Are they empowered? Do they want to be with you again?
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Question Truth is the expectation of paying for the date from the guy that he wants something in return turned down when the woman pay? Meaning he has to be more direct with intentions beyond I brought you dinner so produce…Just want your opinion…It is like the expectations are set a little higher…JMO
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
Wise and Lady J I agree, that does seem to take something away from the date….makes it seem more like an outing with one of the girls/boys.
My question is this…
Why is it that (most) men seem to be hell bent on being the leader, or head of household (of course this on down the road, after the nuptials), or the one in charge because that is the way its supposed to be, but then have an issue being that way in dating? If you know (or have a pretty good idea) that this is a woman you would like to build something with, why does she have to prove anything by paying for a date? I have no problem allowing a man to be a man, and ultimately heading our household, or even treating on an outing if I choose to, but it seems that if a woman doesn’t do this then she is a bad person, or the man is ready to discredit/label her. Any man that concerned with/attached to his money would definitely not be someone I would want to date…let alone build anything with. I will treat ONLY if I want to, not because it’s expected or he’s going to think a certain way of me.
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
if you can’t afford to go on dates, don’t go!
Let the church say, Amen!
Every date doesn’t have to be to Morton’s, people! Lawd! I have been on dates where he had a gift certificate to a place, and wasn’t going to use it by himself, so why not spend it on some time w/ me? Had a great time, and no one worried about how much was spent that night.
Why is it that gift certificates don’t feel as cheap as coupons? LOLOL!
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Wisey and others how is it weird? I mean come on if this is a first date why not treat it like a meet and greet..you get to know me I get to know you and not your wallet or purse. Each person pays their way and if there another date whoever says you want to go out again pays. I mean why spend the rest of your evening mulling over the question of “oh she think she got it like that because she paid.” or “here goes another chick in my pocket.” I mean as a relationship progress there will be time for wine and romance from both involved..why get your panties in a bunch during the meet and greet phase?
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
A few years ago a chick called me and asked me out and “stressed” it would be dutch. Maybe she just wanted some company but it was so impersonal. I didn’t go. My rule is if I ask I pay.
Musing is 100% correct, dude should always pay for the first date, unless its Oprah. Ok, he’s 99.9999% right.
If you read the front of ajc.com (sorry **WD) you get the impression the world has lost its fuggin mind. 120 rats, wtf?
LadyJ are you still seeing the guy or did that experience wierd him out?
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
@Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert…I see your point but that was not our first outing…It just was a wierd feeling can’t explain it but your point is well taken…
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Got That so your answer is there is no answer.
To answer your question: Why do you think people have to be different in the professional life than they do in their personal life?
Because in your professional life you are working to provide security for yourself or love ones. You can’t and should not be homegirl from the block at work. That is why it is your professional life.
When you are home with family and friends then it is personal, you are relaxed. It doesn’t mean the two cant cross but as the old folks say there is a time and a place for everything.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
@Sexi….girl you about to take this conversation to the ugly…that a spill over from yesterday…regarding leadership roles…..I’m about to go pop some popcorn.
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Sexione, you said, I will treat ONLY if I want to, not because it’s expected or he’s going to think a certain way of me
ok, now if a guy felt this way, would you be attracted to him?
@ Dr. Kym, I don’t think it SHOULD take out the romance, but I think there is a shift sometimes because of our pre-conceived ideas about dating, male/female roles, etc.
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
why does “dutch” seem to take out the romance and chivalry and make you feel as if you are out with the boys/girls? Personally, I don’t think it does remove the romance and chivalry because when I go out with friends we can either go dutch or someone will pick up the entire tab and there’s nothing romantic about hanging out with friends. Just the same, there’s nothing inherently romantic about someone paying a bill. Who pays the bill is simply a transaction, just like sex. If the conversation is great and there is bilateral interest, that’s what makes the moment. It’s the harmonious interaction of two humans in a communication dance that creates romance and chivalry.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
Truth he handle it like a man…I think it was a sheer turn on that every chick in the A don’t want his money, move in his house, etc…
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Well…i guess i am just old fashion..so if i ask a woman out..i will pay
I mean, why not i was going to do it anyway…you i.e eat, check out that movie…whatever….just keep it real and the rest will come
But i do agree with who ever said it earlier…”if you cant afford to date …then just stay yo broke azzzz at home and watch cable…lol
Truth naw all is cool now, we dont hold grudes..lolol (Like you know who)
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Dr. Kym for me, unless it’s a blind date (which I generally don’t do), we’ve already done the meet and greet. When it’s date time, it’s date time. And I agree with Truth, it feels very impersonal. And (to me) it makes the money issue a bigger deal than it might actually be, when you make the point of saying “let’s go dutch” on the first date.
By For Real
June 6, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
What up Blog Fam!!!
I agree with T-Mango making money and money management are two different things. Also, if we are not heading towards marriage how much you make and how much I make is not a topic for discussion.
How do we show that we are willing to pay without sending a message of “I am Ms. Independent, don’t need you to pay my way!
Kym It is simple. If you ask me out come pick me up (if possible) and pay for the date. I cannot stand it when a women ask me out and then expects me to pay for it.
Mo Here you go. Tell me what you think.
Time can never mend the careless whispers, of a good friend To the heart and mind, ignorance is kind There’s no comfort in the truth Pain is all you’ll find
Should’ve known better
I feel so unsure As I take your hand and lead you to the dance floor As the music dies, something in your eyes Calls to mind the silver screen And all its sad good-byes
I’m never gonna dance again Guilty feet have got no rhythm Though it’s easy to pretend I know your not a fool
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Dr. Kym, no. My answer was to go and watch. There is a realm of human interaction that goes beyond the power of words. There are emotions that can’t be expressed outside the domain of emotions. Trying to express it in words causes it to lose something. It’s like looking someone in the eyes and just being with them without speaking. There’s something there, in that space and it can’t be put into words. That’s the domain of language of the unspoken. The domain of being is our natural state. That’s why we’re called human being. If you spend all your time trying to describe in words what’s happening in the moment, there are very momentous things that will be missed.
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
IG oohhh, I missed that on yesterday……maybe I’ll pop some corn too! lol
Wise For me, the attraction is deeper than who’s paying for the date. If a guy felt this way about me, then he would never get around to asking me out, I guess, unless it was to something free….which is cool too. I’m old skool, so I’m used to the man taking the lead. That’s why I’m so turned off by all of this who’s paying for what. Man is the head, right? Then by all means, handle it! See men talk about being this way, but then flip it when it’s not what they want to do. For me it’s either you is or you ain’t.
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
GA.man, I’m with you. If I call a woman and ask her out, then I am expecting to pay because I initiated the date. She could be low on cash and be laying low at home. If a woman calls me and asks me out, while I’ll still be prepared to pay, she should be willing to pay because she initiated the date. I could be low on cash and laying low at home.
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
Off topic…
I’m thinking of going to Wednesday Winddown today…..what’s the parking like around the park? I haven’t been down there in a while
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
LOL @ Sexione, “either you is or you ain’t”..I hear you, chica.
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
Got that? i feel you..i have had moments where i just wanted to hang and didnt want to go bymyself…so i ask a lady….if she says yes then i know i got that…..
I have had ladies ask me to go to some very expensive places…but i am man enough to say..I aint rolling like that now…maybe another time…then the lady said i got you..so i went…To thy own self be true
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
Wise Diva, given the fact that things are so different today, what is romance?
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
LadyJ I don’t think there’s an expectation but I think there’s a natural order to things and that mugs it up. Thats why yesterday I was asking is all this a blip on the screen or are these longterm changes in the dating process. Its has absolutely nothing to do with sex but about being a man and knowing I can take care of someone I choose to have in my life. If I can’t even feed a woman I’m like wtf is wrong with me?
DrKym I have been thinking of using the internet for dating and asked about it last week. T-Mango chimed in on this topic. After breaking up with ol girl a while back I was looking at the women I knew to kick it with and I truely don’t want to go back there buts its always so easy because I’ve been there before. I just want to meet someone new and in a different mold than the chicks I know. Its hard to explain. Anyway, what do you think of net dating?
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Got That I asked for an example because I truly believe that all the feelings of weirdness are internal and I guess to a extent preconcieved notions that because this is the way it was 50 years ago this is the way it should be now. I was asking for an example to compare to my own experiences I was asking because apparently there is this segment of women out there that you menfolks run into who have tricked you out of meals, money and more or the other segment of women who apparently have made you feel “less than a man” because she said, did, or behave a certain way. So now you practice the once bitten and twice shy philosphy with ever woman you meet.
Lady J, my question to you is if had the gift certificate before hand why didnt you just say. Hey this evening is on me? I mean why wait until he went to the restroom to use it?
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
You can be sure of one thing..from me atleast…the following will get paid before i think about going any where
Rent(Mortage)
Gapower
Cable
Car insurance
Life Insurance( got to take care of Lil GaMan
Car note
Food
Savings(got to pay myself)
Now once this is done…i look at what is left..now the fun begins
But you can be dammmn sur GaMan aint gonna have his isshh cut off trying to impress no dang gome woman
By Jake
June 6, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
What it is peeps?
Been workin and lurkin.
Its pretty much a given that a dude should pay the initial “courtship fees”, and ABC is right, if you can’t afford to date, you should chill or pull a Dave Chappelle in “Half Baked”.
SeanJ, daps on the 9:58, so few understand the concept.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
By Got That agree…facial expression, posture…it tells so much. I remember meeting a former co-worker for the first time a few years back- she gave me this short and impolite handshake…it was just so odd. That small interaction said a lot about her personality and attitude.
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Got that, you know honestly, for me, I have met/dated the type of men that used money to show me their interest. It wasn’t until the last 2-3 years that I have met more men who are able (or are willing) to romance me without a lot of money - some I had to actually challenge to it. I would say, can you plan something for us that doesn’t cost money? Just to see how creative and fun we could make it.
It seems as if it was easier for men to prove how much they like me based on the Zagat survey rating, as opposed to my particular interests, or preference. Romance for some people seem to come easier with money spent.
SO for me, romance is about chivalry, and making effort to make someone feel special, but it definitely does not require a lot of money.
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Truth I think of internet dating the same way as regular dating. You meet some great ones and some not so great ones. It is also about where you go to meet people. If you meet them in a sex chat..well you get what you get. If you go to some of the online communites with others that share your interest then you may meet someone who is on your level. Actually I gave up dating about two months ago.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
@GA….what about your haircut?lol….you can’t go out looking bushy…
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
Dr.Kym Actually I gave up dating about two months ago. Why? if I am not getting too far into your business…..I ask because I have taken myself out of the dating game too, but it’s been much longer than two months.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
@Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert…I am not sure why I did that the way I did..
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
I am doing WWD today and so looking forward to it…I get there early to find a free park by The Mark…
By Tiff
June 6, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
For Real I know that song wasn’t for me but its one of my favorites!!
Off topic My Birthday is Sunday and I’m trying to find something to do to set if off this weekend..any ideas anyone??
On Topic I am a firm believer that if I invite you to an outing then I am going to pay for it. I’ve had instances where the guys were shocked that I was willing to pay and I didn’t understand it. Like someone said..if I invited you I’m should be willing to pay because you may be having a funny money week. LOL
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
LadyJ The Mark?
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
Dr. Kym, there is this segment of women out there that you menfolks run into who have tricked you out of meals, money and more or the other segment of women who apparently have made you feel “less than a man” because she said, did, or behave a certain way. So now you practice the once bitten and twice shy philosphy with ever woman you meet. In dealing with people, I’ve run into all sorts. I don’t let how one person treats me affect how I deal with the next. Everyone is different and is dealt with on that basis. No one can make me feel “less than a man” at any time. I do not give away my power.
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
Sexione I dont mind answering. I gave up because frankly I am too old to play some of the games that I have experienced out there.
Dont ask me why but I am excited about turn 35 this year. I am in this phase of my life where I dont want to waste my time playing anyone’s mind games so two months ago I figured the saying about if you do what you have always done..you get what you have always gotten was dead on and I decided to focus on some things I have always wanted to do.
Volunteering was at the top of the list so I joined Hands on Atlanta and I am loving it.
Besides it is summer(well almost) and why in the world would I waste a day of it trying to figure out what some guy is thinking or not thinking. I planned some outings with my sisters, friends and family.
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Island Gurrrrll you know i got to get that done…went this morning to get it hooked up…lol
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
@LadyJ…what is a good time to get to the park?
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this
@Got that?…11:22post…That is a different perspective that changes the entire outlook on going dutch…Lady J taking notes…lolol Good post!
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
DrKym that was another option, taking a break. But I got to have some azz and its to risky to take pot shots out there. I may just chill with an old head for the booty, fully disclosed of course, and wait for a better day. This is like adult time- out. LOL
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
3:30-4:30…People getting of working and leaving appointments…I get off @ 3:15 and the school I am at for the summer is off 85 so I will be ther in no time…Are you going?
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Sexione…Yeah the Mark it is a club by the Sidebar on Poplar street I think with great parks that time of day…
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
Lady J, thanks!
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
@Kym…35 yrs is not old. I will be hitting 35 later this year as well. I agree with your mindset though, too many games and players. It really helps when you keep yourself busy and your focus on other things. I recently picked out a side gig working with disabled adults for the same reason…and extra cash of course.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
June 6, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
For Real I am over here singing and rockin as usual!! You have done well!! I am lovin it!! LOL!
I’m still trying to catch up, you guys have been on it today!!
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
@Truth….only guys can say stuff like that openly. How about women that take a break from dating, but would like to have regular maintenance..(from a friend that knows it’s like that)..we can’t openly admit that and not sound nasty.
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Lady J, perspective is like a picture frame. You can put a marginal picture in a great frame and the picture somehow looks better. Or, you can take a great picture and put it in a bad frame and it loses its appeal. A shift in perspective will alter how you view life. You can frame it positively or negatively and have vastly different experiences of the same event.
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself
I’m starting with the man in the mirror
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
LadyJ cool, I’m going too so I will definitely be looking for a parking there. I get off about 3, so I’ll be heading down then. Are you going alone?
DrKym I feel you 100%. That is exactly why I have excluded myself. Too old for the silly games. And I’m much more interested in raising my child right and doing things with her than to be putting up with meeting dudes who want to get an attitude because they’re not my type, no matter how cool and down to earth I am. If there’s no attraction, and you’re both good people, whats wrong with just chalking it up to a friend gained…..I know the dreaded for men, but really!!! The dreaded FZ would not be so dreaded if it came with benefits!!! Oh well, it is what it is. I am peacefully happy in singledom.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
@LadyJ…I plan to go, but won’t get there until 5:30-6:00pm. Hope I can still get a good spot.
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this
Ladies, has a guy you were dating ever asked to borrow money from you? IF so, what did you say, and did that mean the end of the road for him?
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
Sexione…There will be three different party of friends I will be mingling with…I will be all over the the park…So when I first get there I will be solo for a sec Iwhile I try to figure out how to sneak the bottle in..lolol Hope to see you!:)
IG you will be fine hope to see you too!!
If not everyone enjoy the evening of free jazz…Wed is my favorite dy of the week!!!:)
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
lmsao @ Wise HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Guuurrrrllllll, don’t get me started. Let’s just say it has never happened to me!! Mama don’t play that! And in turn, I don’t ask for anything either!
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
Yes Wise and I lent it without any judgement and got it back two days early as agreed…We all have hard times and I was just honor he had faith in me to ask without being ridicule…I personally don’t have a problem with lending money to someone I build a strong bond…Not to joe blow though who is trying to get over while doing nada…My sis is in a bad situation with this now…I don’t tolerate nonsense with money being involved…A brotha will get cut…lolol
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this
IG I know what you know. All girls have a little (some alot) nasty in them. If you wasn’t a ho when you went the first time how can you be a ho if you go back.
GAMAN dude, are you singing Michael Jacksons songs? Soon you’ll be dying your skin. Cut that ish out man. LOL
SEXI friends with bene’s is another topic. I can do that all day. HMMMMMMMM
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
@Got that?…Perspective is the word of the day!!! Thanks for the breakdown…I am not flirting or being shallow I truly enjoy your point of view!!! Thanks again for the discussion today!!!:)
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
LadyJ gurl, u r a mess!! Speaking of such, what can/can’t you bring in? Is it like amphitheater seating or do people bring their own? I brought a few goodies from home…..
By For Real
June 6, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
Kym & Sexi So the two of you took yourselves off the dating scene because you were attracting guys that are players and the both of you feel now that you are too old to be dealing with players? Do I have it correct?
Tiff I have been rocking the 80’s since this weekend and i can’t seem to stop listening to it. Happy Bday fellow Gemini. I swear I have never been surrounded by sooo many Gemini’s before. I am going to see Soul to Soul Saturday.
Mo I thought I would have thrown you off with that selection.
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
Ok ..ok..i thought it fit the topic today..lolol ok no MORE michael jackson
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
ForReal nope, wrong. There are a number of reasons…..
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
@Sexione…No alcohol, they want you to buy theirs…other thn that you can bring food and lawn chairs but of course we know how to do it and plenty get in…It is an open area the stage is in the front and people just start setting up shop…I want sun so I will be in it…Tired of the ac at the moment…
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
ForReal see my 11:35 and 12:46 for starters…
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
For Real I didnt mention anything about players, I said playing games….it requires addtional work and time that I dont really have to decipher the ignorance in these games.
Truth I did the friends with benefits thing and that gets old really quick so I elected to enjoy my own company and that of my friends and family. No guesswork with your family and friends.
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Wise I’ve only lent money to a guy I’ve dated after a period of time. Now if i meet Tom, Dick, or Harry on Tuesday and he’s asking for money by Thursday then DELETE DELETE DELETE!
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
Well, it seems that some people are put in the FZ and it’s cool
Some women..wouldnt know a good man if he ran over them with a Milk truck
Yes we all have our choices…but isnt it funny the ones you overlook somehow turn out to be the one….
I will say this again in my Randyt voice…..Most of us in here can admit to letting someone go that we really didnt give a fair shake to …then all of a sudden you start to think to yourself…or maybe when you see that person happy with someone else…Dang, that could have been me, all happy and stuff
It is what it is…..One person’s Junk is another’s Treasure
We are too old to be playing Mind games….that goes both ways
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
@Truth…true that….like they say…once a ho..always a ho…and vice versa.
By For Real
June 6, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
Kym Ok. My bad. I agree with you about the mind games. When you get to certain point in your life truth and simplicity (IMO) become one of the most important things in your life. If I feel a chick is going to disturb my peace then I walk away quickly.
Unless she is going to let me hit it first and then I walk away. j/k no you not WTF… Jake??? Get out of my head and go back to yours…
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Why is it that just because a certain person is not your type, they immediately think that you don’t want a good man. Any good woman wants a good man, but not every good man will be her type, just because he is a good man, just like every good woman will not be his type. See, that’s what I’m talking about…….childish! If you’re truly a good man, then that right good woman will come your way. Personally, I have never let someone go that I later regretted not being with. It is what it is. Be mature enough to know that just because you’re a good person does not mean that you will be every womans/mans type. Women deal with it, men do too!!!
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Truth & IG so you all don’t think a ho can be reformed? Well maybe the WLB/MLB can team up and create a foundation to help them out. HO-NO-MO
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
In addition, how good a man are you really, if you get funny with a woman because you’re not her type. If you’re truly a good man, then you will wish her well, not try to down her with comments like some women wouldn’t know a good man if…, and keep it moving. I find it hilarious how some good men will say, “it’s cool if things don’t click, we will be good friends”…….UNTIL they realize that’s the only option. POOF…….supposedly good man friend is GONE!!!!! lmsao
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
Slim I support the reform foundation for men and women!!:) lolol Lord I just had a flashback of The Color Purple and what the daddy said about Sug Avery…Too funny!!! lol
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Sexione i think you make some good points….but i can’t say it’s childish…what i can say is that some people just don’t click….but you have to admit..there are some who bypass Good people
We are all looking for that Right person..it still doesnt change the fact that…a person might want more…sometimes it works and sometimes it don’t ….but i think we all have someone we know who has done what i said earlier….
Here is a question…Let’s say a guy/woman has another that likes them, but because the person has 25 extra pounds on them….then said guy/lady says no to their advancement cause of the weight issue…what would happen if they lost the weight..look better..and are happier now would or should the other person want a second chance …should it be given now that the weight is off and they look GOOD now…just wondering
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this
Lady J LOL…I recently watched Color Purple and i never really paid attention to what he said before….What is it with this Shug Avery? She black as tar, nappy-headed, got legs like baseball bats. She ain’t even clean. And I hear she got the nasty women’s disease
By Dark Brown
June 6, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this
Dr. Kym - How can you be the self proclaimed ‘Relationship Expert’ but at the same time ‘give up’ on your area of expertise?
Perhaps you should change your title to ‘Relationship Pundit’.
Not a criticism - just an observation.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this
@SLIM…UMG..loloL. Ho no mo…like the jingle.
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
GA Man If the other person didnt like them because of their weight and that was the only “problem” they had then why did that hold some much of a factor for them..I mean if this person was a good man or woman then why were they not that same good person 25 pounds ago. That seems shallow.
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Let’s say a guy/woman has another that likes them, but because the person has 25 extra pounds on them….then said guy/lady says no to their advancement cause of the weight issue…what would happen if they lost the weight..look better..and are happier now would or should the other person want a second chance …should it be given now that the weight is off and they look GOOD now… If the person that rejected them rejected them solely on the basis of the weight issue, they don’t deserve a second chance because they are shallow. Everyone is going to get old, a little fat and ugly. Some just have a head start.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
Slim what about the part when he was talking to Sealy saying I feel for you not many wives let there husband ho or girlfiend come in and live and take care of them…I can reciet word for word my girlfriend can but that part was funny after he dranked the water with spit and Sealy was like next time you can taste sug pee..ilk!!!! lol
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
@GAman…I think that is shallow. You did not want me when I was a size 14, but now I’m a size 8…your ballz are itching…hellz no.
Unless the person being persued decided to lose the weight for the attention/affection of the chaser…well then good luck to you.
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Dark Brown Since you were not around when I added the Dr. Relationship Expert to the end of my name. There was discussion one day on all of these so called self-help expert. Dr. Phil,Michael Baisden etc. I stated that day if all you need is a sex organ and a opinion to be a Dr. or expert on relationships then we should all be doctors. So from that point on I became Dr. Kym.
By GA.man
June 6, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Thats all i was saying some good people just get passed over..thats all
sometime we all(and i said we all) get caught up on this looks,car,house thing and we pass by a good woman/man
thats all….and yes it is shallow some times Dr. Kym
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
IG Yeah lol. Can you imagine a participant would say stuff like, I haven’t been hoing for 6 months 4 day and 2 hours thanks to HO-NO-MO. Not only am i a client, but i’m also the foundation’s president. lololol Only problem is, who on here will admit to being a ho and step up to the president position? Any takers? Biff?
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
Off topic. Does anyone here plan on watching Tyler Perry’s new show? I for one won’t. I think it once again casts black people as fat jokesters. And to think it was created by a black man.
GAMAN sometime dating is about timing. If you meet someone thats 25lbs overweight at a time when your on a workout kick then that may not be appealing. If its winter and you’ve been sucking down pizza and beer for 3 months they may be more acceptable. 1 million variables to this thing.
Slim lmao @ Ho-No-Mo. Seriously though its going to be a dismal failure. We is what we is.
Sexi do I sense a little tension in your words today? Is there something you want to talk about hun? Where here for you if you need us. LOL
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Ladies, has a guy you were dating ever asked to borrow money from you? IF so, what did you say, and did that mean the end of the road for him?
Yep…and I haunted him until he paid me back every single penny! It wouldn’t have been so bad if he weren’t out buying some very expensive things while he still owed me money…less than what he’d paid for some of those items!!!!
Quoth the Raven, NEVER MORE!!
LMAO @ Slim HONOMO!! I think we need to take a WLB vote…I move that we establish the HONOMO Foundation, dedicated to turning a garden tool into a housewife! (that was for you Blatino)…any seconds?
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
Hi yall. slipping in for a minute out of Lurksville. For e six and so weeks I dated a guy who paid for everything. The times I asked him out he even paid for it. He would never let me even leave the tip. Well one day he mentioned about us getting married and how things would be. I told him I was not ready for marriage nor have I every looked at him as someone I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. He asked me why did I let him spend his money on me then he goes to threaten to take me to court on some chumped up lawsuit with some legal name he came up with. I was scared at first becasue I have never heard of anyone suing anyone for monies they spent on them while dating which they desired to turn into matrimony. I know you can sue to have items returned after a broken relationship so I was really scared not only because of the lawsuit but also because his professon was in law and politics. He had reciepts and the total was substanually high too. Meals, movies, trips that he wanted to go on and other things adds up. Well the lawsuit was throwed out becasue it had no merit. From that point on I never ever ever ever let a man pay for everything while we are dating. Questions for the fellas of the blog: when to you draw the line on paying for the dates and do you have a max amount you plan to spend on a lady. And if you are dating for marriage do you date differntly?
By Dark Brown
June 6, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
Fair enough, Dr. Kym
Signed, Dr. Dark Brown Life Management Expert
By Jake
June 6, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
WWD,sounds like the ladies are going in full force. I’m leavin early so I can get to CGW and THW. (Cut Grass Wed., Trim Hedges Wed.), might catch a drink later. Any suggestons?
For Real What up witcha.
Ladies Did I speak to ya’ll like I should have? If not,
Jake: how are you doing?
Lady(ies): Fine, and you.
Jake: I’m fine, I see your have toes out today, they look nice, and I love the dress.
Lady(ies): Thank you(blush)
Jake: You look beautiful everyday, but you are glowing today for some reason.
Lady(ies): That’s sweet of you to notice.
Jake: So when can I lick’em
Lady(ies): SECURITY!!
just playing ya’ll
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
@GA man…you are absolutely right..now matter how good a catch we may think we are…some people will not see you as such…do to perferences, etc. Like my mom would say, “every bread has its cheese”.
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
Had a quick meeting, I’m back…
GAman a person might want more It’s not always about wanting more! For me, it’s about wanting that right person for me (and I’m sure others feel this way too). As for your weight question, it depends on the two people and how they feel. If a man passed me over because of my weight, he wouldn’t get a second chance, because I will have moved on. But if I felt him enough to give him that second chance, then that’s my choice. If I pass a man over because of his weight (or anything else), I’m not looking for a second chance, because again, I’ve moved on. Everyone doesn’t sit around wondering about the person they met two, three, six, eight months ago. Life goes on. And yes, that can be shallow, but something like weight is also a health issue. Women deal with this a lot…she got a cute face, but she big as a house dawg!! I personally, have never passed a man over solely because of his weight, but I know it happens.
Now how many blog men would date a sista 25/50 lbs. overweight?
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
Off topic: Why do large Women like to wear short skirts, that little Women don’t even like wearing????? I think I saw a belly, where the “Flap-Jack” was suppose to be.
Musing now looking for the “Total Recall” Mind Eraser
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
second madam!:)
By Alvin
June 6, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
I cannot stand it when a women ask me out and then expects me to pay for it.
For Real I agree!!
Got that? reading body language?? Dude, the hearings don’t care nothing about that!! LOL
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
Got that? Everyone is going to get old, a little fat and ugly. Some just have a head start boy you’re a fool..LOL
Lady J here it is “Miss Celie, you has my sympathy. Ain’t many womens ‘llow they husband’s ‘ho to lay up in they house.” lol he was honest though
Truth you may be right about it not working. I mean with that many ho’s in one place, i’m sure it’ll turn into a scene from EYES WIDE SHUT. We might as well invite Uncle Luke to come in and perform. lol
By Dark Brown
June 6, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
MusingLee - It’s Monique’s fault.
By Dr. Sexione Compatibility Expert
June 6, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
Aw hellz, then we can all be drs. lol
lmsao @ TheUNTruth just see my 1:35 and 1:41…that says it all..
purple dang, dude had issues. But I would definitely not continue to go out with a dude, if I know it ain’t going there. Unless, we’ve already covered that….
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
purplepassion that is crazy! But not too long ago there was an incident when a guy threatened to sue this chick for the cost of dinner after she didn’t return his calls after the inital date. I’m shocked the guy went through with it in your case and kept all the receipts. WOW!
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
PurpleP You should have straight kicked dude in the “Brown Bag”.
I don’t necessarily have a cut off limit for a number of dates…Each chick is different…However, unless we are seriously together, I will neva eva eva spend more than $75 bucks on a date…If we start getting close, then I start yarning and getting sleepy.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
MusingLee you are KRAZZY!!! Too funny!
By abc
June 6, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
@Island Girl, regarding now matter how good a catch we may think we are…some people will not see you as such…
“The very purpose of existence is to reconcile the glowing opinion we have of ourselves with the appalling things that other people think about us.”
—Quentin Crisp
By Tiff
June 6, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Thanks For Real I hope the you enjoy your birthday as well. I’m the complete opposite as I am always surrounded by Geminis. I have a friend or family member whose birth dates range from the 1st to the 13th. I make Happy B-day calls so that I don’t break the bank on gifts!! LOL
Btw, where is Soul to Soul going to be on Saturday?
Hey Jewel, QC, Demi
By For Real
June 6, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Sexi “Be mature enough to know that just because you’re a good person does not mean that you will be every womans/mans type.” I couldn’t agree with you more. A lot of that I meet don’t seem to understand that point.
Kym ” mean if this person was a good man or woman then why were they not that same good person 25 pounds ago. That seems shallow.” You can’t call a person shallow because they are attracted to a certain size. I am quite sure you have levels of attractions that someone else could consider to be shallow.
By Jake
June 6, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
I’m gone ya’ll.
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
Thanks SlimOne!!! I must say I got my laugh on today…
By laqa
June 6, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this
@purplepassion, not knowing how many dates yu went on and what ur ordering tastes were like, BUT every woman or man has to use good judgement when ordering, even when u are not tha one paying. Because some instances will border on the GOLDDIGER TYPE PERSONALITY. And if u are not digging somebody, why continue taking their money,paid dates, gifts, wines etc when u know u are only USING THEM? No wonder the lame lawsuit. It was not warranted, the man was just angry for being DUMB AND USED!!
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Musing I wanted to give him a swift kick where the sun don’t shine but that would have been another lawsuit and he would have won. Slimone I remember reading about that. Just crazy. I hope it wasn’t the same guy.LOL
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
@Slim….left the office for a short sec…now catching…you guys are cracking me up…lol
Somebody, please help Musing….
By For Real
June 6, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
Slim HO NO MO!!! Classic. You are one stupid chick but I like it.
NC “I haunted him until he paid me back every single penny!” Got Dayummmm girl… That was deep.. Haunted him Dayum.
NC: Where’s my moneyyyyyyyyyy
Dude: Oh ish.. Lawd please hepme this itch is haunting me.
NC: itch!!!! Mutha….
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
Musing on a date
Date: Dinner was great!
Musing: Yep (reaching over to pick up the check of $72.95)
Musing yawns, stretches and shakes his head as if to wake up.
Date: What’s wrong?
Musing: Nothing, just a little drowsy all of a sudden.
Waitress: I’m sorry sir, but I forgot to put that last glass of Yack on your bill. Let me just update it and I’ll be right back.
Musing passes slap out, face down in the remainder of his plate of extremely expensive spaghetti…snoring.
Date: WTF? This fool could have told me he had narcolepsy before he drove us here!!
By pruplepassion
June 6, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
GAman a person’s weight shouldn’t determine whether they are dating material or not. A some people are not attracted to over weight people. I work out, eat right and have been able to maintain a healthy size for years even after having children so I expect the same from someone I’m dating. Let’s say we met online and we’ve click and vibing really good and when I meet you you’re overweight. Would I still see you the same way, I can’t honestly answer that unless you misrepresented yourself. Some people just dont have chemisty. Good converation does not equal to chemisty
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
@pruplepassion…Good converation does not equal to chemisty…That statement is so true with meeting people online…Great point!:)
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
June 6, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
For Real about you thinking you had me on the song, I love music so I try to be up on a little of everything!!
*Mo sliding in after being worked like “Kizzy” in “Roots” *
On topic:I made more money than my ex and he didnt have a problem with it. My motto is when on a date, I wont order anything that is more expensive just b/c I aint payin. Meaning if I wouldnt order it if I was treating self, then I wont do it on a date. Now if we get in a LTR then I will go for it on occassion. My ex and I used to alternate paying for things and it worked out great. For instance, since I am the music lover I paid for concert tickets. He being a sports fanatic, he paid for game tickets and etc. You just have to be respectful of people like you would want to be respected.
Whew I guess I covered errthang..
Hey Lady J, enjoy the Winddown!! I dont get off til 6:30 so its out for me! HEY WLB!!
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
@NC…ok, I second the vote…there is hope for change in others.
Yes, I once borrowed a guy a small amount of money for some emergency (as he claimed) and he never paid me back. I was young and really like him, so I didn’t care about the money.
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
Musing’s $75 Date Limit
Dinner at Maggionos $37:(Musing wide awake)
Ice Cream under the moonlight $10:(Musing walking slower)
Blockbuster summer movie $18:(Musing now riding on electric Rascal)
Desert at Intermezzo $10:(Musing now slumped over steering wheel,not moving until the next morning)
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
Laqa at no time did I used him nor did I order expensive meals or made any financial request from him. I order as if I was paying and there were plenty of times I offered to pay and he would refuse or give me back my money. I don’t have to justify myself because I was never put on the defense stand. The case had no merit. And he never called me a gold digger when we were dating he only said that because his plan failed through. I’m glad I didn’t marry him, he prolly would’ve had me in court for all kinds of things.
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this
NC Musing passes slap out, face down in the remainder of his plate of extremely expensive spaghetti I thought black folks knew not to ever order a dish such as spaghetti out at a restaurant. We all know it’s never made how it is at home. LOL! Anybody else ever felt that way.
By Sexione
June 6, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this
Good converation does not equal to chemistry very well said!!!
NCgirl you r crazy!!!! lol
Time to wind down…….peace and blessings peeps!!
By Lady J
June 6, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
Okay good people!! Going to the park!! Have a great evening all!!
Peace!:)
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
@ABC…do you really agree with that quote? Would you really give consideration to what others say about you, if their criticism or critique is off the wall? I love it when my good friends can call me out on something that I may be “intentionally or unintentionally” blind too. I can appreciate that feed back…and consider that for self-inventory, but should I consider what others say about me given the fact that they don’t know me? (jmo)
By For Real
June 6, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
Pee-Pee You don’t mind if I call you Pee-Pee do you?Anyway, ole boy str8 retarded. How are you going to sue a woman into marrying you?
I do have cut-off of $50 that I would spend on a date. My tabs for a date avg. about $125 per date but that’s because I like to eat and drink good. It was a promise I made to myself after college.
By SeanJohnson
June 6, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
@ Musing…lol…u are about as bad as me….$75-100 limit…and if i am getting the panties….i eat lite…cesar salad type…i dont like to hit on a full stomach…
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
Purple to answer your question I draw the line before the first date. Why drop a nickel into a dry well? I’m no where near as fast as I used to be to ask a woman out. I make a quick decision before I ask and go with that.
Yes, I think you do date a woman you intend on marrying differently than a chick your trying to bed. It might be as simple as her staying the weekend or overnight so you can get up early to go out of town whereas a lay you pick up the next morning. Also, the kind of events you go to. .02
ABC thats a pretty tight line you threw out there. Nice work.
Why isn’t weight a good ecxuse to not date someone. I’m sure there are some great heavyweight chicks out there, I just don’t want to date one. It says alot about how she feels about herself. Skin color, shoe size, nappy hair, bad breath, dented 72 gremlin. All of these are great reasons to elimidate someone. Remember, if its not THE 1 any excuse will do.
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
Slimone A man should never eat a woman’s spagetti because she may put something in the spagetti sauce. Hint: time of the month. YUCK!
By Alvin
June 6, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
Sexione I like my ladies thick wit-it, but their stomach has to be smaller then mines…a little stomach is cool though…I ain’t dating no slim though…I need to, cause Imma small body dude.
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
IG, there’s a lot of truth in that quote. You don’t have to know someone to provide constructive criticism. It only seems that the critique is off the wall, but at the moment of the interaction that generated the critique, consider that it was dead on.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
@NC and Musing…y’all crazy!!!!!
By BlatinoBrutha -
June 6, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this
….ssssipping on fourth cup of coffee….
The Grand Poobah lends his support for the WLB’s creation of the HONOMO foundation, henceforth to be referred to as Project Chick by the MLB, if for no other reason than shear amusement. NCGirl, it just can’t be done. MLB and its predecessors have been trying for centuries.
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
Sean J i dont like to hit on a full stomach… LOL I don’t like to get hit on a full stomach either. Being all full and stuff makes you lazy and very well could cause an unexplained gas to consume the air at any given moment. LOL i crack myself up
By Purplepassion
June 6, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
For Real Sorry hon but Pee-Pee will not work. PP will do only for you. (smooches)
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
SeanJ Man, my motto is…”If you can’t have fun for $75, then you ishh outta luck”
LOLOLOLOLOL
I went to a club with a Woman, she got in free and I paid 30 bucks….She ordered wings in the club for $12 bucks two drinks at $10 a piece…and afterward wanted to go to “Real” dinner…I thinking “uhhh uhhhh playa”..We have enough left for an “All the Meats” Pizza and some Smirnoff…She was looking like “WTF!”…I told her she didn’t have to eat any if she didn’t want to…I took her’azz home and ate my own pizza…Had enough left for 2 days.
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Truth now i know you aren’t referring to my 72 Gremlin when we were just riding in it this past weekend up to Copelands? and just think, I was about to let you drop a few nickels in the fountain
By Purplepassion
June 6, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Musing, For Real, Sean John and Truth Thank you for your answers. ABC still waiting on your response.
By Mo (now known as Moeisha)
June 6, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
SlimOne You beat me to this one LOL I don’t like to get hit on a full stomach either, I was thinking the same thing!!! LOL!! Nothing worse than lazy s3x!! I need all my energy and so will he!! :-)
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
PurpleP That’s the first thing us dudes learn from our Mama about dating.
“Baby don’t eat no itch’s spaghetti and lasagna. I’d hate to have to whoop a Oe for getting my baby sprung”
By For Real
June 6, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Musing Boy you are a fool….
NC That was a perfect description
SJ eat lite huh… Naw not me I want to fall asleep so I don’t have to hear the after sex talk.
For Real: Yeah baby I’m also most thereeee!!!
Chick: Oh baby yes, yes, yes
For Real: Ohhhhhhhhhhhh ishhhhhh. Oh yeah babyyy you got the bomb Jerry Springer
Chick: You always do it like mama likes. You know I was think… For Real, For Real
For Real: Snoringgggggggg
Chick: You Mutha….
By For Real
June 6, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this
Musing Boy you are a fool….
NC That was a perfect description
SJ eat lite huh… Naw not me I want to fall asleep so I don’t have to hear the after sex talk.
For Real: Yeah baby I’m also most thereeee!!!
Chick: Oh baby yes, yes, yes
For Real: Ohhhhhhhhhhhh ishhhhhh. Oh yeah babyyy you got the bomb Jerry Springer
Chick: You always do it like mama likes. You know I was think… For Real, For Real
For Real: Snoringgggggggg
Chick: You Mutha….
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
can we get something started for the manwhores too? There must be equal opportunity to reform people, right?
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
@Truth…it’s a matter of preference…if weight is an area of critiquing the type of person you find attractive, then yes. I’m not attracted to overweight guys, I honestly don’t find it appealing due to health concerns. It’s just that if I don’t find you attractive when you were a size 20; I will not find you attractive at a size 12. I will appreciate what you’ve done for yourself though…..
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Alvin I ain’t dating no slim though…I need to, cause Imma small body dude I can offer you a 30 day trial for a small fee of $6001.78.
purplep I’ve heard that many of times before, but any woman that even begins to do such a thing is totally utterly disgusting!!!! I’d prefer to just prick my finger and let him suck on that. lol
By For Real
June 6, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
*Slim after a night of eating and drinking well…
Dude: Man I really enjoyed our date. Slim you are one cool and funny chick.
Slim: Oh thank you. I had a go.. Fartod time as well.
Dude: Aw that’s cute you got a little gas coming out of that round littl azz of yours.
Slim: I’m sorry. I guess I shou Pootldn’t have ate last piece of bacon wrapped peper jack cheese in a golden crip cruFart-Poot-Fartst.
Dude: Dayummm Girl you sound like my daddy at the dinner table. Imma roll these windows down.
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
Wise What about the “Red Snappa Academy”?!?!
By SeanJohnson
June 6, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
@ Slim..some females dont care…they eat a full course…drinks …and i have two drinks and a salad …kinda like fattening up the rabbit for the snake…and i sit across them knowing that later on they are gonna/better work off that meal.
@ Musing….some chick try to str8 take advantage…but thats because some dudes spoil them and think they can always do it like that…anytime u eat two meals on one date…it better be dinner and breakfast.
By Purplepassion
June 6, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
Got that Some men use money to get woman. If a man doesn’t have any money he may feel less than a man. I read a bumper sticker that said: Broke men don’t mack. Broke men can’t mack. Some men will be quick to throw out his financial position to woo a woman over and quick to call her a gold digger when she breaks his heart. Men don’t go around stepping to a woman knowing that they are strap for cash asking her out on a date. Some men want to impress when they take a woman out on a date.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
@Slim….our designated Project Manager…can you start a reformation camp for the manwhores??
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
Slim * I’d prefer to just prick my finger and let him suck on that. lol** who you’ve been dating a vampire? LOL
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
For Real That ain’t right at all Man…LOLOLOLOL…hahahahaha
IslandG I stay with thinner Women because I didn’t want my hips broken…Have you ever tried lifting someone off of you and they thought you were playing.
Musing: for real get up!!! I can’t breath!
Big Chick: Boyyyy you so stupid…Hahahaha
Musing now turning blue
Musing: Itchhh I said get the hellz off of me! I can’t breath
BC: Ohhh I didn’t know you were into that choking thang…Dang you a freak!
Musing now karate chopping chick across the neck……later found 3 days later trapped under belly roll
By abc
June 6, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
Whether other people’s opinions matter that much to you is a matter of personal perspective. Do you value their opinions in general? Does your realization of their opinion have any ring of truth? I find that people are, as often than not, mistaken about their assumptions about me.
“As you see yourself, I once saw myself; as you see me now, you will be seen.”
—Mexican Proverb
To me, that means that everyone will at one point or another have pretty much the same or similar opinions of themselves, no matter how lofty; and no matter how lowly I seem to you now, you’ll be seen that way sooner or later. And, vice versa — no matter how low you feel about yourself, I’ve felt that way; no matter how much you think I have it together, you’ll feel that way sooner or later.
By For Real
June 6, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
Awww thanks PP and like Musing said my mamma told me about that ghetti thang. But if you want me to be sprung on you all you have to do give me $20 everytime you see me and I will be up in your face 24/7.
BTW, I was going thru the MLB Picture Book and I notice we don’t have picturgraph of you. When can we setup sometime. Now, this will be some high quality picture taking so come prepared.
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
LOL @ Musing! Red Snapper Academy!?
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
SJ Yeah, we appreciate it when you empty out before you hit too…nobody likes holes burned into their comforter or in the footboard of the bed.
SJ’s girl: I smell something burning…do you?
SJ (mid-stroke): Nah…(huffing and puffing and blooooooowing the house down)
SJ’s girl: (sitting in bed…now outside) Well, I guess it wasn’t a real fire.
LMAO!!!
By BlatinoBrutha -
June 6, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
…just hitting the press wire down on the AJC news floor…
“In response to a most unusual request from Agent WD-40 of the MiABlog Consortium, the MLB is um, announcing the creation the GAME OVER Institute, with the mission of, er, ahem, helping those members of the MLB with higher libidos. Please note that this is contractual obligation on the part of the MLB Council in response to the WLB’s creation of HONOMO, and the MLB has no plans whatsoever to fund the project in any way, shape, of form.”
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Slim your over sensitive about the gremlin. Your not the only one in atlanta with a dented popemobile(the pope has a car with hella glass also), I mean gremlin. Copelands was cool but if anyone wants to assassinate us we’re done in that thing. Still, thanks for the date (slaps Slim on the Azz)
ROFLMAO at For Real.
WD manhores never have or never will exist. Its an oxymoron.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
@PP and Slim….thats nasty, but folks do it. Its called sweating the food….like sweat rice…folks are crazy.
By Alvin
June 6, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
SlimOne LOL..Trust, I know how well y’all slims can take backshots. I date thick wit-its because of my body type (mini runningback/babycockdiesel), so to a slim woman, I am very unattractive. Now to a 5’7 or 5’10 woman (with heels), I am deem dateable.
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
For Real LOL going to ATM for cripy 20.00 so For Real can be in my face 24/7
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
Wise HONOMO is for both men and women. We don’t discrimihate in this foundation.
MO sho ya right. lol Slim downing a crunk juice, some No-doz, and a cup of coffee before she stretches. Krunk as hell Slim jumps on the bed in her wrestling outfit talkin bout LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLLLEEEE! j/k Most of time it goes like this:
DUDE: ohhh Slim, you know i’m bout to tear dat @ss up right?
Slim: yeah uh huh. I know, but hold on one sec. I’ll be right back.
Slim leaves room for 2 minutes and comes back with a timer and puts it on 4 minutes
DUDE: baby what’s up with the timer and ish. I know you aint bout to start tripping after i just bought us two personal pan pizza’s AND a coke for us to share.
Slim: oh yeah i almost forgot. give me one more sec.
Slim walks over to stereo and puts on Avants CD….next thing guys hears is “i only got 4 minutes to do what i gotta do to prove to you….4 minutes
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
Purplepassion, I have a question for you. What are you talking about? I understand what you’re saying, but you said it directly to me because…?
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
@ABC…now I agree with that, As you see yourself, I once saw myself; as you see me now, you will be seen I think that rings true.
By SeanJohnson
June 6, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
@ PurplePassion…i think u are wrong…about broke men not macking…just take a look tomorrow morning and see how many women are driving to work and their boyfriends are slump over in the passenger seat about to keep her car for the day..Men who are not about their business have all day and nite to cater to the attention needs of females..now femeles get tired of this when they realize the dude dont anything going for themselves…but it happens…
@ ForReal….i feel you bruh…my goal is not to fall asleep though…but to go a few rounds and put her to sleep…keep my FICO score A1
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
For Real I am seriously crying laughing over here at that skit….You So Crazy!!! sniff sniff-LOL
@Sean J…if you let the rabbit get too fat, she won’t be too much of a participant later. Now if she’s getting fat off of drinks that different. I’m sure we’ve all had that bomb azz sloppy drunk love.
@IG..We’ll have to put the manwhores thru our top notch SexiSense XLVDE 3000 to see just what level or whorism they are on.
@purplep…haven’t dated a vampire but i used to be one. lol Seriously, I’ve dated Batman…ask For Real if he’ll show you those pictures I took of him during one of our sessions.
@Musing Lawd hellmercy. I’m going to get fired for having fun on the job.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
@Slim….oh….no……only 4 minutes….you wrong for that…lol
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
Red Snapper Academy (for HoReform) LMAO!!!
Despite Blatino’s assertion that it can’t be done, the HONOMO Foundation and the Red Snapper Academy shall push on! First order of business, setting the curriculum. I propose that some of the required courses should be Pimps Down, Pimp’s in Dis-dress: How not to dress like a fool (men only), The World Ain’t Ready for that Jelly: Just b/c it comes in your size doesn’t mean you should wear it (women only) and Friends don’t let Friends Dress Drunk (co-ed).
Does anyone have any suggestions on behavior modification? I figured I’d start with the wardrobe. If you don’t dress like a hizo, then perhaps you won’t act like a hizo!
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
Got That I wasn’t directing my 3:38 post to you. I’m posting about my experiences only. Most men donn’t date when they are broke. Men marry when they have money. (#1 reason why some men never marry) Men are taught to be providers.
By For Real
June 6, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Alvin You have got to define thick wit-it before I can agree with you bc as Musing has pointed out some of them Big Chicks think they are thick wit-it
Musing lol.. Even I will not take a picture of that… EWWWWWW Nasty
Slim You are a fool…. I bet your imagination is off the chain after a few drinks.
Tiff Soul 2 Soul will be Taboo 2. Sorry for being late.
By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert
June 6, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Pause to Vent
SJ while I am a pretty liberal woman I cannot abide a woman driving a man around. It just bothers me to know end when I see some dude slump over in the passenger’s seat and the woman driving. I also can not stand to see a man leaning all the way over in the seat on the arm rest driving. Sit your lazy tail up and watch the dang road.
Thank you
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Musing, I’m with you on the stay away from big women thing. I’ll take a woman with some curves, but there are limits. If she sits on my lap and the top of her butt comes up to my chest, she’s too big for me. Or, if, in an attempt to hug her, I have to throw one arm around her and run the opposite way to catch it with the other arm, she’s too big for me. If we’re sitting on the couch and she leans against me and falls asleep and I can’t move her so I can get up, she’s too big for me. If we’re riding around in my car and her side is riding low, she’s too big for me. If she steps onto my talking scale and it says, “One at a time please”, she’s too big for me. If she puts on a yellow raincoat, walks to the corner, and kids try to get on, she’s too big for me. If she has more chins than a Chinese phone book, she’s too big for me. If she ever has to say to me, “Baby, I like what you’re doing, but that’s my navel”, she’s too big for me.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
@Musing…..OMG…funnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyy.lolol
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
if you don’t think manwhores exist, chances are you are one. I’m just sayin’
By Alvin
June 6, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Slim 4 minutes babe, that only enough time to get in about 100 strokes…move that timer up 2 minutes, I wanna feel like I am doing something…LOL
By MELO
June 6, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
@SJ,i dont like to hit on a full stomach… Is that why ur stamina wont last the whole night?!!! Reminds me of that viagra or cialis commercial where the woman says”yeah stamina”LMO
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Purplepassion, broke men don’t mack? What? Girl, put down the crack pipe and step away slowly…There are a lot of women that pay everything for a man. Ever heard of the term sugar mama? Gold diggers can be found in both sexes. I’m sure you have a girlfriend who has a man that does nothing but mooch off of her.
By Purplepassion
June 6, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
SeanJohnson just take a look tomorrow morning and see how many women are driving to work and their boyfriends are slump over in the passenger seat about to keep her car for the day good point there are some men getting over on us ladies but the vast majority of men who value their manhood refuse to date broke.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
@Slim…I agree the evaluations/tests on the manwhores must be vigorous. We can’t let any fall through the cracks since we are a service oriented organization and we as exceed the expectations of our customers.
By For Real
June 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Slim That’s funny girl but I think it was more like this:
Dude: ohhh Slim, you know i’m bout to tear dat @ss up right?
Slim: yeah uh huh. I know, but hold on one sec. I’ll be right back.
Slim leaves room for 45 to 50 minutes and then Flush. Oh ish back fill. Please don’t overflow pleaseeee… Dayum.. Where the hell is that plunger
Dude: EWWWWWW she nasty as hell. Well I guess I will play like I fell asleep and hit it in the morning. Whew!! Dayumm… I told her not to mix bake beans, refrided beans and pinto beans together.
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
Truth I’m not as overlysensitive about the gremlin as you are about your Red Wagon. That day we were supposed to go to Ci Ci’s Pizza, it took you 2 days just to get to my house! Let’s just take the Big Wheel next time. I’ll even bring a spare plastic tire in case you get a flat.
Alvin Why do guys always say, slims can take backshots?
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
if you don’t think manwhores exist, chances are you are one. I’m just sayin’
ROTFLMAO @ Wise!!! Or worse, you might wish you were one!
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Purplepassion, do you know why broke men don’t marry? How many women do you know that will be satisfied with a trip to the courthouse? It’s not like in some countries where you can show up at her hut with a couple of goats, a chicken, a lamb, knock the bottom out of it, take her back to your hut, and be done with it. Of course, that’d make one heckuva great cookout.
By Purplepassion
June 6, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Oh Lawdy For Real is Batman?
By SeanJohnson
June 6, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
@ Melo…lol..good one bruh…but nah…no need for the blue diamonds…just look at like this…when u go out u are normally served a salad before the entree/main course right…..the female is the main course…just will be served up to me a little later that nite…
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
@PP…girl I have to agree with the guys on that one. There are plenty of broke azz brothas out there that don’t mess or skip a beat in the mack game. I know some dear friends that got some women dropping coins at their feet honey…b/c of that good d.
By For Real
June 6, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
Slim And by the way, all you need is 50 strokes anything over that is just showing off.
Slim: Ohhhh yes For Real right keep it right thereeeee
For Real: 48, 49, 50 ohhhhhhhh ish yeahhhhh…. As For Real rolls over and falls asleep. Oh and Fart that’s for while we were in the car.
By abc
June 6, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
Got that, if she fall in love and break it, she too fat. She went to the movies and sat next to everybody. If I have to roll over twice to get offa her, too fat!
By For Real
June 6, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
Dayummmm You Slim for revealing my true identity….
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
Got That, SeanJohson there are bad dating habits in both sexes. I know there are some men who spung off of women. And what do you call them? Some few choice names right? Heck I got a cousin who always getting women to pay his bills and he works a full time job too. Again Most men don’t mack when they are broke.
By Alvin
June 6, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
but the vast majority of men who value their manhood refuse to date broke.
I can’t tell, my cousin (not to hate on him) is broke as hell, but has ladies paying his bills!!!
I will admit, I’ve pick up some nice women (no just looks) in his busted a$$ bunnievilla, LOL
Slim 95% of y’all are deep…I can put my arm, beer bottles, and crazy toys up in there…I am being real
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
@NC…behavior modification suggestions
Men: will be exposed to adult porn for a maximum period of 24 hours…with each occurrence of woody or an attempt at self gratification..…shock therapy to the groin will be administered.
Women: A trusted member of the MLB will be allowed to give localized massage to the chest , back and c**k for a maximum period of 24 hours……with each occurrence of an O or self gratification……your underarms will be waxed…..then your entire eyebrows.
Do you think that is too harsh?
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
Got That I was drinking a Coke when I read that post…I would have been peezed if those bubble had come outta my nose..LOLOLOLOLOL
5 Rules to Women You Shouldn’t Date
If her mustache is thicker than yours.
If she has a set of dentures and she’s less than 30 years old.
If she answers the telephone, but you know Barry White has died.
If you can smell her before you see her.
If you have to ever fight her for your life and you know you would lose.
By MELO
June 6, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Got that? I feel u about BIG women, especially if u wanna hit from the back. My buddy tells me one time he was doing a quickie,with his pants on and had his pants soiled by DUDU from AZZ.
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
NC I’m loving those classes. If you don’t dress like a hizo, then perhaps you won’t act like a hizo! This will be the first series on the steps to treatment.
Got that oohhhh, hehehehe, hahaha
4 Real thats funny but i’m not really into beans babes. I think it would be more like this:
Dude: ohhh Slim, you know i’m bout to tear dat @ss up right?
Slim: yeah uh huh. I know, but hold on one sec. I’ll be right back
Slim leaves room for and is gone 5 minutes….15 minutes…20 minutes..???
Dude: I wonder what’s taking her so long. Let me go check on her.
Dude leans ear up to bathroom door and hears faint buzzing noise. He knocks but gets no answer. Finally opens the door and she’s Slim knocked out snoring with silver bullet still in hand
By The Truth
June 6, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
Slim all jokin aside I thought we weren’t going to bring the wagon incident up to the bloggers. You never could hold water.
Ok, to prove to WD and Nappyhead in NC that there’s no such thing as a manwhore. Men of MLB, if a fella sleeps with 300 women what do you call him? Sound off that we may be heard.
By NCGirlfromATL
June 6, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
IG Ain’t it weird how broke d can still be good d? At least for a minute or two.
Speaking of a few minutes…Slim has now ruined that song for me! LOLOL!!!
Musing betta watch out when he leaves work today. Big girls in smedium skirts and sandals with foot-fat spilling out will be waiting for him in the parking deck (one sitting on the hood of the Civic) to kick his azz! Don’t sleep, big girls pack a punch! And I don’t just mean red Koolaid!
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
@SJ…I remember guy gave me that line…I’m eating light b/c you’re the main course…like wtf…nah broth..just drop me off on your way off…so you can go home and beat your own stick…
By purplepassion
June 6, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
Island Girl I can apprecitate the disagreement, we all have different opinions, where would we be if we all think alike on errthang. Where I’m from men who are down on their luck or can’t afford to date usually don’t date. Couples who live together don’t usually marry because of lack of money. I hear it all the time.
By For Real
June 6, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
PP I am not sure you understand the meaning of mack or at least the MLB’s definition. It doesn’t take money to mack.
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
Purplepassion, still I must disagree on the whole broke men don’t mack. They just do it different. They either have the woman hang out at their crib and they hang out at the woman’s crib. That’s how po’ folk get down. Cruise through the ‘hood, stop at the corner store, and see how many broke brothas try to pick you up. Sad thing is, it works.
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Melo, so are you implying that thin women don’t have dudu?
By Batman
June 6, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
@Truth* **SUPERMAN
By MusingLee
June 6, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
NCgirl The kind of Big Girl I’m talking about could use two slim chicks as nunchucks.
Musing will be sneaking out through the fire escape this evening
By Purplepassion
June 6, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
Got that do you know why broke men don’t marry? How many women do you know that will be satisfied with a trip to the courthouse? It depends on a lot of factors. Age, whether it’s their first or second marriage etc… Also most men aren’t satified with going to the courthouse either.
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Melo, that is nasty. Makes you wonder what other surprises awaits him.
By IslandGirl
June 6, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
@Truth…ah….ah…he’s called a manwhore…..hehehehehehehehe
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
oh yea, sound off, please. As if that would convince us, what we already know. Ya’ll can keep it. Bed hopping and sleeping with any old random stranger is the same for males or females, you can dress it up however you want, the fact still remains, “you get around”
By SlimOne
June 6, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
Alvin I can put my arm, beer bottles, and crazy toys up in there…I am being real I don’t even want to know what hizo let you find out exactly where the end of the rainbow was. That’s gross ewwww.
MELO Noooooo! not DUDU..I think i just threw up a little bit in my mouth. You sure that wasn’t just a melted Sniker bar stuck in one of the folds?
Truth aww baby, i’m so sorry. I thought it was the Rocking Horse that i wasn’t supposed to mention. I’ll make it up to you. Here, have this lent-covered peppermint.
NC sorry girl, didn’t mean to ruin it for ya
By Purplepassion
June 6, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
Got that Cruise through the ‘hood, stop at the corner store, and see how many broke brothas try to pick you up do you know this from experience?? Aint no way Imma do that,nnnoooooo way.
By Alvin
June 6, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
For Real Thick wit-it for me is “not quite fat” with little or no stomach, track star legs, porn star chest, cute gap of a a$$, and cute/pretty (the type that is so cute you gotta eat it and skeet anywhere and hope it hit her eye).
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Wise Diva, please don’t go there…then mental imagery is killing me. I’ve been known to hit it from the back and in the back of my mind I wonder how I’d react if I saw dudu. Would it kill the mood?
By Purplepassion
June 6, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
It’s been great… Hope everyone have a good night. Peace out!
By Got that?
June 6, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
Purplepassion, yes I know this from experience. A buddy of mine used to live deep in the ghetto and whenever I’d hang out at his place, if we had to go to the store to get some food and beer, there’d always be a group of broke men hanging outside the front chatting up the fine azz women.
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
ha ha! you guys are naughty and nasty!
Have a great evening folks
By Wise Diva
June 6, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
oh and thanks again Got That?, great job today.