Misadventures in Atlanta

By GA.man

June 5, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Good Morning head nod the All Powerful MLB

Hugs and Kisses to the WLB

By Sexione

June 5, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

Goodmorning Everybody!!!!

Negotiate in dating? I’m sure this will get ugly Wise, unfortunately I won’t be here to read it til much, much later……….let the battle (of the sexes) begin!! lol

Personally, I don’t think this should even be an issue amongst the dating. Not until you become a couple, with intentions of being in a monogomous relationship, should things be negotiated. Yes, in dating, there should be some compromise (which could be a precursor to negotiation), but not to the point of serious negotiations. My .02 cents.

By Biff

June 5, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

Reminder folks, this is an English speaking country. I can’t understand the lingo some of you are using on this blog.

By Cassie

June 5, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Hm. If a man doesn’t want a partner, but a wife…and can find “ten other women” who are willing to satisfy his needs…let him go on to the ten other women!

In all seriousness, I did this in my marriage….gave up everything that was vital to me in order to be the best wife humanly possible. Friends, hobbies, etc. all went by the wayside, and all his friends and his hobbies became mine.

So now, post divorce, it’s taken me some time to get back to who I was.

Moral of the story? If a man wants a wife and not a partner, he’s not the man for me!

By GA.man

June 5, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Off topic the movie Knocked up is the bomb…man i didnt think i could laugh soooooo much

By kinderbabe

June 5, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

good morning all! what’s up blog ladies and gents?:) hope your tuesday morning is quite groovy…lol.

on topic: What do you think of the “give a little to get a little” idea concept? It’s definitely necessary. Compromise is so key when it comes to getting along. If one chooses to stick to the “take it our leave it” theory, you’ll find yourself, by yourself or even worse, w/someone you don’t want.

Do you think it is necessary for dating, relationships, marriage? Absolutely.

Since I know the discussion will decidedly become mars vs. venus, who has better negotiation skills, men or women? I’m on the fence w/this one..lol. I think there are some who have stronger skills than others. Some men are great negotiators, some women are great negotiators. It all depends on the person and their willingness to compromise.

GAman gotta check out that movie. i’ve heard that it was funny. i’ll put that on my weekend to-do-list.:)

By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert

June 5, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All,

Yes, this is a Mars vs Venus battle that will be a sprited debate that I hope will not get ugly. While the panelist feels that the man can find 10 women that will…that same woman, who wants someone to treat her like a partner not a posession, only needs to find that one man. I agree Wisey we are self-absorbed creatures and we all want it to be our way or the highway…we are “me” oriented and “me” driven. But relationships(marriages, dating even friendships.) take a bit of compromise and sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot. Who of the sexes is the better negotiators I would have to say we as women are. I will give examples as the day progresses.

By MusingLee

June 5, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Morn’in All,

Wise this is a good topic…I think you should have negotiation skills in dating, as we have to have in everyday life. Yet, in dating it’s an internal negotiation of does this woman/man have what I am looking for, and if not can I work with what they do have?…And although there may be 10 other Women who can give a better deal, is what they’re offering something you even want to buy?….First rule of negotiation: Know who has the power…2nd: Know what you want.

By Cassie

June 5, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Oh, and WD I was referring (yesterday) to Rose Colored Glasses….

By Sexione

June 5, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

If a man wants a wife and not a partner, he’s not the man for me! Ditto Cassie

The Lord gave Adam a helpmate….partner..not a servant!

By Sexione

June 5, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

If a man wants a wife and not a partner, he’s not the man for me! Ditto Cassie

The Lord gave Adam a helpmate….partner..not a servant!

Off to class, y’all play nice!! lol

By Melo

June 5, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

The reason why most women in America do not have men is precisely because of that illusion”that u can negotiate ur dating or marriage situation” Its an illusion in the sense that the end result…you end up on your own. The dating and marriage game, like everything else in life, is still tilted heavily in man’s favor and women have to find where they fit in. Men are not ready yet to give up their perks, yet, maybe never When u hear conservatives talk of family values, its a code for man power.Why do u think they despise Hilary so much? A lot of u good ladies on this blog who want to get married eventually need to understand that as long as you carry the “iam an independent woman” label on your forehead like Cassie, few men will want to date you seriously, for marriage sake. They will pretend, use u and dump u. And you wil wake up eventually, when u are in your late 30’s, as a spring chicken! Thats when the young guys persue you for your sexy drive!

By Melo

June 5, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

The reason why most women in America do not have men is precisely because of that illusion”that u can negotiate ur dating or marriage situation” Its an illusion in the sense that the end result…you end up on your own. The dating and marriage game, like everything else in life, is still tilted heavily in man’s favor and women have to find where they fit in. Men are not ready yet to give up their perks, yet, maybe never When u hear conservatives talk of family values, its a code for man power.Why do u think they despise Hilary so much? A lot of u good ladies on this blog who want to get married eventually need to understand that as long as you carry the “iam an independent woman” label on your forehead like Cassie, few men will want to date you seriously, for marriage sake. They will pretend, use u and dump u. And you wil wake up eventually, when u are in your late 30’s, as a spring chicken! Thats when the young guys persue you for your sex drive!

By GA.man Filling in for Randyt

June 5, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Well since we all have been thru this and if you cant get what you want you have to have a better position to bargin with

When the world gives you Lemons..you dont get sour..you make lemon-aid…..I know what it is like to talk too and see a lady that you want then you find out …you are not what she is looking for…it is funny in life how some time passes by and then she sees you again and you are happy…you can smile at her like nothing ever happened

now she is looking at you from a different light and she thinks…Maybe i was wrong about him…then she realizes that train has left the station and you dont have a seat

So no matter what..keep your head up…one person’s junk is another’s treasure(tried to do my best Randyt)

By GA.man

June 5, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Ooooh i forgot..been there got a t-shirt for it….lol

By Cassie

June 5, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Melo I am not afraid of dying alone, and I absolutely don’t need a husband to make me happy. I’m quite happy without one, thank you.

Although it frightens me to say this, I do agree with what you’ve said about our society still being heavily tilted in a man’s favor.

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Sup Blog…. I agree Wisey we are self-absorbed creatures and we all want it to be our way or the highway…we are “me” oriented and “me” driven.…this is something that women have to realize us men are tired of running across women like this..in the beginning..we may think of it as being cute…as time goes on…it seperates us and have us not even considering committing to one woman..

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

A lot of u good ladies on this blog who want to get married eventually need to understand that as long as you carry the “iam an independent woman” label on your forehead like Cassie, few men will want to date you seriously, for marriage sake.

And this is classic of the can’t win for losing phenomenon that I have spoken of on previous occasions.

Men say they don’t want to be the sole providers…”get a job! Bring home some $$, and stop expecting me to bling you out!” But, woman with the capacity to bring home nice dollars has to make the choice between home and career. I don’t get that! Men don’t have to make that choice. It’s a given that they can find the balance, even if it’s to the detriment of the family. Women, on the other hand, are considered to be selfish and too independent if they pursue career advancement, and are therefore, not good catches.

So what, are we supposed to have no ambition, work in a low-paying job, and be ready to be home barefoot and pregnant just to sooth a man’s ego? Is that really what you guys want?

And to answer your question Wise, I negotiate for a living. I looooove negotiating. But, I don’t know that there is really much negotiating to be done in relationships these days. Guys have the impression that they are always in power, b/c of the so-called shortage of good men. Frankly, I don’t think that a good man would ever put a woman in a position of thinking that she’d need to give up her goals and dreams to be with him. Would he do it for her?

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Melo, you make a lot of great points. It’s so true what you say, and in some ways, I wonder if my generation of women are prepared to accept that reality. I mean, it seems as if the men I meet/date don’t care to take on the partnership role at all, like I saw my father did with my mother.

What were the boys taught coming up about partnerships? While we were encouraged to get education, and pursue careers so that we could contribute to the household financially, what were boys/men told about what type of women/mate we would be? Because it seems to be something we get penalized for. While we are getting self-fulfillment in careers, and personal interests, why is their such harsh criticism that we would not make good wives/mates?

By Cinderella

June 5, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

As it turns out though, guys don’t want a partner, they want a wife.

When did wife and partner become two separate things??? A wife IS a partner and men stating that they’re looking for a wife instead of a partner would raise some serious red flags for me. A man with that mentality would not be the husband for me.

What do you think of the “give a little to get a little” idea concept?

Hey, as long as both parties are getting what they want and are happy with the end result than it’s all good! I dont believe it should only be one person giving something up all the time.

By Mo (now known as Moeisha)

June 5, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Morning ALL!! Hope everyone is having a great day!!

Sexione I agree with you, this should only be an issue once the relationship has been established as monogamous and long term. I definitely believe compromise has to exist b/c you are two individuals coming together so you wont like ALL the same things. But you will have to do some give and take to have a successful relationship, IMHO.

GAMan I plan to check that movie out as well. Been so long since I went to the movies its a shame…LOL

By abc

June 5, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

If you want a career that includes extensive travel and he wants a stay-at-home-mom, obviously there’s too much distance between your perspectives and positions to be able to negotiate a solution.

For lesser issues, compromise shouldn’t be that much of a problem. If it is, then THAT’S a much more serious problem than that over which compromise is required, due to a lack of selflessness on behalf of one or both parties.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Good Morning I’m a little late since someone just hit my Parked Car while I was sitting in it…UGGHHHHH!!!!

Ok, glad I got that off my chest. Wise I know exactly the show you’re speaking of because me and my single cousin’s watched it last night. Thanks to TiVo. The guy with the glasses on was really urking my nerves. I personally feel that relationships/dating is an ongoing ‘negotiation’ for lack of a better word. Two partners will not always agree on things but will definitely have to figure out what way of resolving or going through everyday life works for them. Now as far as the Why would a man need to negotiate with a partner when he can find “ten women that gives him a better deal if a man is constantly moving on at every point where he doesn’t get his way, then I can’t see that being effective or fulfilling. I believe men do want a lot of the same things that women want in the realm of companionship, emotional support, and just having that special female figure/partner. I believe that by dating 10 other women that will do A B or C, actually requires much more time and wasted energy than it would by simply coming to some sort of decision that both can live with.

Slim is still a little disoriented. Not sure if what i just said makes sense…guess drinking coffee at a time like this is not necessarily going to calm me down.

By GA.man

June 5, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

NC i too make deals daily..but i actually agree with you(Ok my stomach hurts now) lol

I,Myself would love a woman that can handle her own…this makes it better, because two can make it bigger and better..so please dont lump us(Men)all in that group…if you(women) want to be the big dog..go right ahead..i can be the bigdog over here…now when we are sharing our space and time…let’s check the egos at the door and enjoy each other….

This is what’s going on..while i truely believe i am one of the good guys..i would never ask ot try to take away your dreams…that is what will make you happy……in return i am happy…it is the balance of Peace that I want

This statement has not been endorsed by the MLB and it probably never will be..this statement is from GaMan and him alone

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

@Melo…cosigning…its truly a mans world…i keep telling women….

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Cinderella, that is the SAME thing that I said, a wife is not the same as a partner!? A lot of men don’t think so!

By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert

June 5, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

SeanJ that phrase can apply to men as well.. Only men identify that as the masculine ideal to be the whole Me Tarzan you Jane now come and swing with me. An if the Jane you are swing with doesn’t agree to follow you off that tree, then she gets left behind while you go chase Cheetah the Chimp all around the jungle. Men can be just as self absorbed.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

Blog Men Okay so you can clear up some confusion for me….What exactly do men look at or want in a wife if he so chooses to get married?

These are just a few to get your minds going. Feel free to address/add items not in the above questions.

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

and not a woman can’t play the man’s game…Melo we do have to figure out where we fit in and roll!!! Not lower standards or accept bs but just finding a place….Great Post Melo!!!

By MusingLee

June 5, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

NCgirl as a card toting member of the MLB, I’m gonna have to sign your 9:34 post….I’ll give you that point. Many Men want a Woman to have a job, but once the lady starts to outpace the dude, he’ll want her to ease up and take a back seat…I don’t mind my Woman riding shotgun, just long as she knows I’m driving the car…Now she’s more than welcome to program the GPS if she likes.

By kinderbabe

June 5, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

slim girl, i can relate to where your head is. someone hit my parked car on friday during a police chase that ended in front of my house! it was awful! hope you feel better.:)

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

oh no SlimOne, I hope you didn’t get hurt! I bet the driver was talking on the cell phone or something!

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Okay lladies I use the term partner alot with this new dating thing…What is the difference between a partner and wife…Is is more about the business than wife duties and expectaions…Can a partenr ever be a wife with being partner first…Is a partner no more than a friend with benefits…Just curious as to what each term really means to women and men…

By abc

June 5, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

My ex is an example of a wife that wasn’t a partner. It didn’t start out that way, but especially after she returned to teaching, her job became so all-consuming that even when at home she’d do nothing but work, and needlessly too, I might add. She chose for it to be that way. Housework, cooking, etc. became mostly mine to do; I had no companionship, not even any conversation to speak of. She only wanted to talk about her job, and preferred the company of other teachers to mine. When I complained too loudly and often about it, she left.

From that experience, I would prefer a woman that would allow me to support her, and take on some volunteer work or something part-time instead, available for me when my job requirements allowed me free time.

By Cassie

June 5, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Hey, if there’s a man out there willing to support me in the style that I support myself….I’d happily quit my job and play Suzy Homemaker…

By GA.man

June 5, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

See NC 2 members of the MLB …now agree with you…

GaMan checks MLB books to make sure he and Musing haven’t broke any rules….uuuummmm nope

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

kinder & Wise I’m okay but i had got to work early so i was chilling in the car for a few moments before walking inside when BAM out of nowhere an older coworker was attempting to back in the space next to me not realizing she was backing into my space. So it just scared the ish out of me especially since i was resting my eyes. lol She said the sun was blinding and she thought the other black car next to mine was the only car there. My car is black too. Police got here surprisingly fast though.

@kinder…A police chase! WOW! I’m sure that was scary as all get out. How is the damage to your car?

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Thank you GA/Musing for your co-sign. (and GA, I was generalizing for the sake of the post…I know there are some really good men out there and on the blog!) All I’m saying is that if you want a woman to be herself then let her be herself. Don’t ask your mate (man or woman) to compromise who they are just to make your ego feel better. I think many men will find that even the most ambitious woman still wants a man to be a man. I still want my man to be the head of the household. But, I also want him to know that he’s going to have to pitch in on the running of that household, if he’s going to be in charge. But, I guess Wise said it best earlier, many men don’t want a partner, they want a wife.

Slim girl, I told you to get that picture of Paris Hilton off your bumper! It’s like a bullseye to play bumper cars! LOL!! I hope you’re feeling ok!

By QC

June 5, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Morning all have a great day!

Hello Musing, GA.man, Truth, Demi

By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert

June 5, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Abc I was with you up until that last part. Please explain clarify that last statement. Not to say that alot of women wouldnt go for that but I guess it sounds to me like she would have to come to you for money to buy anything and she could volunteer or work a little part-time gig so she wil not get bored while waiting for you to acknowledge her presence. I mean in a way you are asking a woman to do for you what you did for you ex-wife. Which will leave her where when you are not available for her?

By GTPete

June 5, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

I’m not sure how many people here believe in the Bible, but I think alot of folks have it twisted.

It’s our duty as men to “give our lives up for our wives, just as Christ gave his life up for the church”. Our wife responds to us with respect & encouragement based on our ability to lead our families by sacrificing our own lives first.

Now, if you don’t agree with the Bible then you can keep searching for the perfect compromise. Personally, I think the responsibility falls on me to sacrifice myself for the good of my family. Until guys realize this, they will either 1) stay unmarried and enjoy being single because enough women are ok with men being about themselves, 2) Find their marriages confusing and unhappy for either them or their wife.

Just my 2 cents.

By kinderbabe

June 5, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

hey ladyj:)

yeah slim, my car wasn’t damaged that badly. by grace, my car wasn’t parked in my usual space. if not for that, it would have been totaled. for some odd reason, i parked in my neighbors driveway that afternoon instead of right in front of my house. that’s what saved my car b/c they just skimmed the back bumper and some car parts hit my car causing dents and such. the car that hit my car, also took down the tree in front of my house. i mean, it took it from the roots (there’s just a hole left). it’s a wonder they weren’t killed. to add insult to injury, these idiots tear up my yard, hit my car, then jump out and run from the scene. they still haven’t been caught.

By GTPete

June 5, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

I’m not sure how many people here believe in the Bible, but I think alot of folks have it twisted.

It’s our duty as men to “give our lives up for our wives, just as Christ gave his life up for the church”. Our wife responds to us with respect & encouragement based on our ability to lead our families by sacrificing our own lives first.

Now, if you don’t agree with the Bible then you can keep searching for the perfect compromise. Personally, I think the responsibility falls on me to sacrifice myself for the good of my family. Until guys realize this, they will either 1) stay unmarried and enjoy being single because enough women are ok with men being about themselves, 2) Find their marriages confusing and unhappy for either them or their wife.

As a sidebar: I’m married to a woman who makes more money than I do. I’m a full-time engineer and do 70% of the cooking in my home and manage the finances.

By MusingLee

June 5, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Hey QC

Slim You have plenty of questions..LOLOL…I don’t require a Woman to make less than me, She has to work, Dealbreaker for me marrying a chick is a stank’azz attitude, If we are sharing the space then we will share the responsibility 50/50 (unless the other person needs a break), Cheating (I will fight not to forgive her and I expect no less from her concerning me)…..

Now sipping Powerade from answering all those dang questions

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

NC Yeah I know. I just ran out and took that Firecrotch bumper sticker off the back. lol

Is it a full moon today? Okay, first accident, then we just got out of meeting announcing some cutbacks that are about to begin. Yall know how it goes…first they assure you that your dept will be okay but a few short months down the line another meeting is called.

Slim now exercising her right to pray in the workplace

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Morning bloggers. So sorry bout the fender bender Slim. Was it the bentley or the phantom?

On topic. I may negotiate what I do but I don’t negotiate what I am. I think thats where folks lose their identity.

I also feel its a mans job to take care of the home, meaning paying the bills. While I don’t want a stay at home wife she should know that if she doesn’t go to work she’s still gonna be ok. Otherwise I’m pimping my wife out for my survival and that puts undue stress on her. Meaning she can’t perform at home because her true leader is her boss. If I want her to be a woman and handle her thang then I have to handle. Ev1 stay in your lane. So I pay for the house, utilities, ins, home things and she can pay for whatever car she wants and FOOD. Put some dam food in the frig.

Gaman the next time you represent Randy I’m going to recommend suspension from the ranks of the WLB.

By abc

June 5, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Dr Kym, if I couldn’t trust her to handle all the finances if she chose, she’d not be the right woman. Just because I’d make most or all of the money doesn’t mean I’d have sole control of it, that’d be a partnership issue.

My ex briefly made more than I did, for a year or so, when I changed careers. That was hell on wheels… it’s where it started going south, not because I had a problem with it, but because she did. I make 3 times what she does now, and she has a problem with that too, even though we’re divorced.

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

GTPete thank you so much for your comments, what you said was VERY interesting!

By Cassie

June 5, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

Also, too….the ladies who are stay at home wives….Several books have recently been published that point out the downside of being a stay at home wife…and the main one I can think of - so you are a stay at home wife…what do you do when your husband (or yourself) wants a divorce? What do you have to fall back on? What skills do you have that would make you a valuable potential employee?

I mean, I’m sorry, but it’s unfair to expect one person in a relationship to be the breadwinner. That’s a HECK of a lot of pressure.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

kinder so is your yard just S.O.L or what? Look on the bright side, if you really didn’t want that tree in your yard, you just saved hella cheese on paying someone to cut it down. But if you did want that tree in your yard, you already have a perfect hole to plant a new one. hehehehe

GTPete On the same show Wise was talking about, I think that’s pretty much what Angela Bassetts’ husband Courtney Vance basically summed that up. Vance said that when he realized, through some “godly counsel,” that his wife comes first, he found out that “things began to smooth out.”

Musing Sorry bud. Have a red bull on me. So basically in regards to cheating you don’t expect her to try to forgive you and vice versa? You said: I will fight not to forgive her and I expect no less from her concerning me

By For Real

June 5, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

What up Blog Fam!!!

I negotiate daily for a living as well but I don’t do it in the dating game. It is unnessary as far as I am concerned. I state rules that I am going to play by in the beginning. Then it is up to the female to decide if these rules match with her rules that she is going to play by. If the two sets of rules match then we play. It’s that simple. No negotiating.

Example:

Chick: I don’t plan on having sex until I am married.

For Real: Well I guess we are going to be friends then…

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Hey Kinderbabe

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Meaning she can’t perform at home because her true leader is her boss.

Truth-ism Who is supposed to be her true leader, in your opinion? Does that pre-suppose that she is incapable of thinking for herself, and deciding what is best for her as an individual? Just curious.

By MusingLee

June 5, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Slim You read me loud and clear…I don’t deal with the cheating thing…Cause all respect is out the window…So if I or she cheats then the relationship has run its course.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Truth actually it was my 1972 Gremlin. So not much damage was done. I felt like riding Vintage-Style today.

By kinderbabe

June 5, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

you pretty much summed it up slim. my homeowner’s insurance deductible isn’t even worth the cost of replacing the tree. so it’ll be an out of pocket expense. you might see me on judge mathis or joe brown after i find out who the owner of the car is…lol. somebody besides me needs to pay for the damages. i am also responsible for my car damages.:(

By For Real

June 5, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

NC I agree with you as well but it is a generalization. Which I am sure will get slung around all day today. That being said, I am proud of you. The last few days you actually picked a side of the fence and clearly stated what side of the fence you are on.

By Raqi

June 5, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Speaking from my present relationship I can say that the man that I am with now appreciates the fact that I am self-reliant however that doesn’t necessary means that he doesn’t want me to depend on him. He and I agree that we are partners but he wants to be the one that primarily dictates the workings of our household although he knows that that is not practical. It’s a man thang. However he is and has always been willing to listen to my point of view even when he is more than 100% sure that his way is the best way. But I am the exact same way.

I think that is what makes us partners. We are both willing to hear and consider the other’s opinion and most of the time try to find a middle ground. And on the things that we can’t we argue about until someone gives in just to shut the other up. Most of those times I sit back and wait until I recite those magic words in my mind “I told you so” (It’s a girl thing). And lot of the times both of us are off course.

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Cassie on your 1039, thats not pressure, its what men have done since the dawn of time. A man should feel great about providing for his family. It feeds his spirit. Now its pressure to a woman because thats not what she does naturally. Only recently have we had these wild lane changes with chick dis and men with c*

For Real a chick tried to hit me with that one a few weeks ago. She had kids. So she wants me to spend time (aka money) on her with no chance of getting the skins. She was an attorney too. I told her it was an old okie doke and I wasn’t going for it.That pretty much ended the convo.

If I cheat on a woman she has a decision to make. If she cheats on me I made my decision a long time ago. Nothing to talk about. Keep it movin. The only thing worse than some chick cheating on you is having to look at her azz everyday.

Where is Ling by the way. Hey lady.

Special warm MLB hug to QC.

By GA.man

June 5, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Truth not the suspension..lol booooyyyy stooooopppp….by the time you do the paperwork…i would have hired NC and you know how she brings it…..

As a matter of fact NC i need a Lawyer….truth is threat’n me about the MLB

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

So if I or she cheats then the relationship has run its course.

Amen and a boooooomshakalaka!! I wish more people would take this attitude. Perhaps there would be less cheating in relationships if people knew how much they really had to lose by doing so.

Pulling out the platinum Mont Blanc with the diamond encrusted nib from the vault to co-sign Musing’s post.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

kinder that surely sucks @ss. Maybe you can negotiate with some dude into getting him to fix your yard for a few homecooked meals or something. Musing might even do it if you get the Civic engine restored. I think he only has a bike chain holding it in place.

By abc

June 5, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

I agree that infidelity ends the relationship. It’s the only thing that Bible says is sufficient grounds for ending a marriage.

By For Real

June 5, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Slim

Do you want a women that makes less than you? Hell no. She can make as much as possible. I am not one of those dudes. I also understand the more money you make at work the work you do at home.

Do you want a women that even works at all? Hell yeah she gotta work. My mamma worked and so will she. I don’t need another child.

What would be a deal breaker on considering a female as a potential wife?

What are your feelings in regards to the woman=housework (cooking-cleaning) man=sole provider? Important? Not important? 50/50 responsibility?

A man nor woman is capable of achieving perfection so there is no such thing as 50/50. My mother taught me how to cook, clean, and provide. The one of the problem with some women today is that they almost seem to brag about the fact that they don’t cook or clean. You go to some of their houses and you are like EWWWWWW naw shawty ain’t for me she nasty. But the number one problem with woman today is drum roll

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE LEADER IN A MARRIAGE. PERIOD!!! Now this goes for both men and women. *YOU CAN’T BE THE LEADER UNLESS YOU ARE READY ASSUME ALL OF THE BLAME, FIX ALL OF THE ISSUES, AND PUT YOUR WIFE AND CHILDREN’S WELFARE (NEEDS NOT WANTS) AHEAD OF YOUR OWN.

Would you expect your spouse to forgive you if you cheated? If she cheated would you reciprocate the forgiveness to continue on? This is a loaded question that depends heavily on the situation. I know women don’t want to hear this but I alot of men cheat b/c of the maritial situation. abc is a classic case of a man that would cheat bc of his situation.

In lieu of a citation For Real is not filling up the Urang.

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

NC of course a woman can think for herself, but someones got to be the captain of this ship and I’m not the 2nd mate kind of guy. So, either you respect your chosen mate enough to follow his lead (assuming you’ve selected right) or you take the lead and then despise him for his lack of leadership. Its all a matter of choices.

Slim I was going to ask you out and have you drive. Nevermind. LOL The Truth can’t be seen in a gremlin.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Well it seems that attitude is a repeated deciding factor even though it seems some of the most terrible attitude having chicks are married.

For Real when I say 50/50, of course it would never be exactly down the middle. I merely meant that those types of things would be shared. Take for instance my mother and step-dad. He does not ever cook. If any cooking is done, my mother does it and she serves him his plate and tall glass of koolaid. He never cleans up the house. Any cleaning done, she does it. She even cuts the grass. However, he does go out and obtains 98% of the contracts he gets for their security company. The only thing he’ll clean are cars or his model car room. So in that case housework is not shared. I do agree with what you said: THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE LEADER IN A MARRIAGE. PERIOD!!! Now this goes for both men and women. YOU CAN’T BE THE LEADER UNLESS YOU ARE READY ASSUME ALL OF THE BLAME, FIX ALL OF THE ISSUES, AND PUT YOUR WIFE AND CHILDREN’S WELFARE (NEEDS NOT WANTS) AHEAD OF YOUR OWN But the breakdown of mostly black families has brothers out here not really knowing how to be that leader. Leader not to mean Dictator. There is a difference. I once read somewhere *A leader must possess strong beliefs, values and positive attitudes, otherwise the followers will stop relying on him and from that moment on, he will no longer be recognized as a leader So men must be aware if they are walking around pounding on their chest that once he abuses this, women will check out.

By GA.man

June 5, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

GaMan V. Truth and MLB

Said Member GaMan is Suing Truth over threats about Suspesion from MLB for said period of time

GaMan is seeking injuction to bar Truth from the possiblity of placing Lifetime Member on suspension because of a tribute to fellow member Randyt

*GaMan seeks compensation as follows:

1.Public apologie from Truth

If all of the above can be done then this Lawsuit can be considered null an void

If the MLB wishes to exclude themselves from this Lawsuit….please let it be known thru this public annoucement A.S.A.P

Filed in State Court of Gwinnett County, Georgia

howyalikemenow!!!!

By abc

June 5, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

A reasonably restored 1972 Gremlin X would sell for around $8K. People dig ‘em.

By Jane

June 5, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Melo great points in your 9:13 post.

Slim - yes that is so true that some of the most terrible attitude having chicks are married. I wonder why is that?

By Aggressively witty

June 5, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

The bible is a good anecodotal tale for how to live life but how can you apply literally all of the things written so many thousands of years ago to what goes on today. Yes, directionally, there are some sustainable and good things in there but taking everything so literally especially when it comes to marriage is obtuse at best, asinine at worst.

When biblical law and stories where written or passed down or however they came about all dudes had to do to provide for a broad was

1) make a hut 2) get some goats 3) farm some land and go hunt every now and then 4) stay outta slavery and war

and more than likely that broad wasnt nagging and yapping and complaining

this huts too small, these goats too skimpy, this land is too arid, why you gotta go to fight pontius all the time?

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

Truth honey if you were riding in a Gremlin, folks wouldn’t even be able to tell. …A gremlin riding in a gremlin=priceless.LOLOLOLOL You set yourself up for that one. That should teach you to be shamed of my ride. Now get on over here and drive us to Smoothie King. This is a perfect day for a 20 oz Pineapple Pleasure.

By Alvin

June 5, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Do you want a woman that makes less than you?

I really don’t care, as long as she enjoys what she is doing.

Do you want a women that even works at all?

Yes, I don’t care if she has to walk the street corners. She has to have a job…blank better have my money,LOL

What are your feelings in regards to the woman=housework (cooking-cleaning) man=sole provider? Important? Not important? 50/50 responsibility?

I personally believe in 50/50. My job is to be her strength, not her weakest and to uplift her every chance I get. I will make certain I do my best 99.9%, so that when we go to court. I can blindside her like GA.man!! Look at me judge, aren’t I a good man!!

would you expect your spouse to forgive you if you cheated? If she cheated would you reciprocate the forgiveness to continue on?

Since me and my wife will most like be swingers, we’ll just deal with it when time comes.

By Melo

June 5, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

@Wise,Jane,SJ&LadyJ, thank u all.

By Royal Chic

June 5, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

Afternoon greetings….

It’s been a while….waving at WISE….

Can we negotiate? I think it’s all about the willingness to make relationships, marriages work and leaving pride, egos at the door….couples have to simply respect the roles that each partner performs the best in…..and meet each other in the middle…..

I have to admit I was once on the “Women’s Lib” train and I felt the need to wear it on my sleeve at times, but now I understand that a partnership entails understanding how to give and take…..leading when I need to lead and supporting when I need to support….

By For Real

June 5, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Slim some of the most terrible attitude having chicks are married. Just like wife beater is always married. Doesn’t make sense but it happens.

So men must be aware if they are walking around pounding on their chest that once he abuses this, women will check out. This statement is the true indicator of why the black family has suffered. Some women are being or have been raised to be single due to their mother or even their grandmother (sometimes) being single. They teach their daughter what they know which is how to survive without a husband. Some fathers are teaching their sons about a manhood that no longer exist because the only model some of the fathers had was their grandfather which is their son’s great grandfather.

By Alvin

June 5, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Wise I want a divorce!! How you gon up’n’let Truth 11am slide lika M/F!!!???

By Royal Chic

June 5, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Oh, I forgot to add that the problems with negotiation arise when people bring individualistic thinking into partnerships….it’s virtually impossibly to be strikingly independent and be someone’s partner at the same time…..it’s the power of choice..

If you choose to be a partner, you have to be prepared to let go of the self absorbing, independant way of life….

By Demi

June 5, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

GA.man LOL

Yelling MLB for life, Demi toss a hand grenade into Alvin’s lap and flew off into the sunset with QC in his arms…Hey babe!

Good Afternoon All!!!

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

For Real I think you’re trying to play some crazy Jeidi mind trick with all that sons of fathers of grandfathers sons. lol

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

@Royal Chic…Great Post give and take and that is not always 50/50…We have to pick and chose batttles not accept bs or lose ourself through nonsense but truly giving your all to make it work be it any type of relationship!!! Thanks for that insight!:)

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

@Royal Chic If you choose to be a partner, you have to be prepared to let go of the self absorbing, independant way of life….

Listen does the problem come in when one portays to be doing this while the other is and it backfires when the independent lifestlye kick in…What I am refering to is how long does one wait for the other person to become a partner…

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

How to be a Perfect Follower

I got his off a website…not necessarily how I feel, just putting it out there.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Alvin you know I noticed that too and was waiting for that infamous red to show up with a warning to Truth. You finally had the nerve to annouce the elephant in the room. lol

By Aggressively witty

June 5, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

The Role of Kobe Bryan will be played by Alvin today

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

wait, Alvin, LOL what did I do? You know I read “the Truth” with a grain of salt, most times, I consider what he says to be part shock value, part testosterone packed rhetoric, LOL (no offense Truth), I definitely don’t agree with what he said though, but that was probably easy to see.

heeey Royal Chic!!, good to read you today!

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

hey demi!!:)

By kinderbabe

June 5, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

it’s funny b/c i just finished discussing w/a friend what motives folks have in relationships, generally speaking. most people want to be right. they don’t really care about being happy. they say they do, but put more emphasis on being in control through their actions. so what it really boils down to is, do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

ok wait, LOL did I miss some profanity? Yall know I am multi-tasking, help a sister out! What did He do now!!

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

GAMAN 1) I publicly apologize.

2) $1.50 on gas for the Urang for 2 months. Thats all I got man.

3)I’ll hand wash the window 2 times, not for 2 months.

4)I’ll have the Urang waxed 1 time.

If this is sufficient lets end this beef GAMAN. I got no desire in bumping heads with NC. How say yee?

Slim LMAO @ gremlin in a gremlin. Lets supersize that smoothie.

Great post Royal Chic. Spoken with the wisdom of experience.

Alvin don’t dry snitch me to wise. If she missed it let it go. MLB for life baby.

By Demi

June 5, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Jane/Slim…some of the most terrible attitude having chicks are married. I wonder why is that?

and

For Real…Just like wife beater is always married

Think about it, their mates are usually weak individuals. It’s very rare for two strong individuals to stay together long. Someone’s pride or ego will be crush and because of their pride or ego, there is no way any apologies will be made.

I need to stop reading Japanese’s Manga.

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

@ Slim…good post…u gotta have your mans back and have faith in him…and keep that trap shut…and things will work out fine

By Melo

June 5, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

@Slimone, something tells me u are going to be a good wife and partner when the right time comes!! @RaqiMost of those times I sit back and wait until I recite those magic words in my mind “I told you so” (It’s a girl thing)Enjoy the ride but be careful that there may be resentment in both of you that may build up, unless you are all good at communicating and letting it out. A marriage of true equals is not possible, in my view. If one cannot subordinate the other, its gonna be fireworks leading to a break up. In the majority of marriages that i know of, the man leads. But its also true there are rare moments where the woman will lead a husband/wife team. There is strength in subordination too, lest some here think its all slavery. My wife takes care of all the finances in our household..what to pay and when.She has a strength in that area that i dont possess.She leads even though i earn 2x her salary. But i have the final word, i am the GENERAL!

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Truth babes you are too good to me…Supersize? WOW! Momma just might have to throw .35 on the gas tab compliments of WLB.

Sean J I was with you on your post until I got to keep that trap shut…and things will work out fine. We aren’t about to get into the whole Speak when spoken to, be seen and not heard deal are we?

Slim standing by for answer with her hands on her almost non-existing hips

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

ROFLMAO at SJ’s “and keep that trap shut**. Thats some funny stuff. Get him girls.

By Sexione

June 5, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

I’m back, let’s see if I can catch up…..

By Demi

June 5, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

WiseTruthSlim Alvin who…said while dumping Alvin’s unconscious body behind the ajc building…I know no Alvin, you?

Heeeey Lady J & KB! How my ladies of WLB be…I’ll be right over for lunch, soon as I change into my Cape’n’Tight.

Demi was last seen Muscle dancing for food

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Melo I can only hope so. Just pray he whomever that might be will make an equally good husband or better.

By kinderbabe

June 5, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

demi you’re hilarious as usual, lol. everything’s good w/me. howyoudoin?? lol

By If We Goin' Legal

June 5, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Exclude the state-licensed “marriage” relationship from this discussion. All other relationships are then available for “negotiation” - and I use that term in it’s most positive manner - to the sole satisfaction of the parties (could we have more than two parties? Why, yes we could).

The concept of the “marriage” relationship on the other hand takes a great deal of its historic, if not legal, structure from biblical teachings. Trying to negotiate biblical marriage doctrine, where men are the head of the household & women “submissive”, would make for a rough relationship.

Make sure which type of relationship you’re trying to establish.

Off Point: Just for you ladies who may be unaware (only a few :) :) ) - men are not “women with a different package.” Be careful what you’re looking for!!

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Demi too funny…I am trying to find a trade for gas!!! The jeep is killing me softly!!! LOLOL Laugh of the day!

KB smile girlie!!!:)lolol

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

@ Slim…believe me..its not a speak when spoken to type deal…just that …if you are always talking and not listening….and its a difference from hearing and listening…kinda hard to communicate well..and thats our biggest problem…not being on the same page…

By Sexione

June 5, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

and thats our biggest problem…not being on the same page So very true!!!

By Jane

June 5, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Royal Chic - great post! I have to admit not giving up the self absorbing me stuff has been my down fall and I didn’t realize I was doing this until someone put me in check.

Demi - so true their mates are very weak. I have a girlfriend and her husband is just as weak as they come. She clowns on him in public like its nothing. Truth be told on the rare occassion when he stands up to her it turns her own.

By GA.man

June 5, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Ok Truth well let NC look at the deal and she will let you know if it approved or not…lol

Dang…where my attorney when i need her

Smile Life is too short to waste it on being unhappy

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Sean J well in that case ^5^5…both need to be patient and listen, you’re correcto mungo. Slim now pulling out the card that read, you have two ears and one mouth..do the math Folks have to learn that every disagreement or difference of opinion shouldn’t always result in the draw of blood for the sake of being right. One I can’t stand is someone having to be right even when their so wrong. Admit the error and keep it moving.

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

…A gremlin riding in a gremlin=priceless

LMAO @ Slim

GA I say you should pull out the pictures. You know the ones…Truth in the ripped up knut-huggin’ shorts driving around in the Urang…w/o a license and driving out all of the gas paid for by the MLB.

For Real thanks and :-ppppppppppp! LOLOL!!

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

I don’t know him either(said while running back to kick the unconscious Alvin in the crotch). Ouch

It seems everyone is extremely unhappy with the current state of dating. The question is what can be done to fix it, if anything? Is this a blip in the road or are roles changed forever? For Real brought up some great points about this being learned from our parents so where do we go from here?

MLB we have shown a few cracks in our armor. Lawsuits against other MLB members (using a WLB attorney no less), dry snitching on each other. This has got to stop. We need our GRAND POOBA BLAT to step in and over see this operation.

By Royal Chic

June 5, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Hi Lady J! I would assume that two people who have commited to a relationship….have commited to being partners by default…..so to answer your question you shouldn’t have to wait for your mate to become your partner…..ideally, you both should be on the same page at the same time….

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Thanks Royal Chic!!! That be da truth!!!:)

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

SJ/Slim I think the thing that probably gets on my last nerve is not just the need to always be right, no matter how wrong he or she may be, but insisting on having the last word. Aaaaargggg!!! It’s like having the never-ending argument. And in my head I’m screaming Just shut the frickem frackem up!! But, that’s a product of people who don’t have good listening skills.

Contrary to popular belief, the mark of a good lawyer is not that he or she can argue incessantly, but that they are a good listener.

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

Thanks Royal Chic!!! That is the truth!

By Ouch!

June 5, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

CHICAGO — An energy magnate’s estranged wife was awarded $184 million Monday in what appears to be one of the biggest divorce verdicts in U.S. history.

Citing irreconcilible differences, Maya Polsky, a 55-year-old homemaker and art gallery owner, filed for divorce from her husband, Michael Polsky, in 2003.

Judge William Boyd had ruled in October that Maya Polsky was entitled to half of the Chicago couple’s cash and assets, with her share valued at $176 million. On Monday, the judge amended his decision to include previously omitted assets that increased the value of her award to $184 million.

Maya Polsky’s attorney, Howard Rosenfeld, said more than $170 million of the award is nontaxable cash. He said that in researching the case he could find nothing in which a homemaker wife received such a significant award.

“She’s very much satisfied with the court’s decision. She thinks she was fairly treated by the court,” Rosenfeld said.

The couple married in 1975 in Kiev, Ukraine, then part of the Soviet Union. They arrived in the United States in 1976 with only four suitcases and $500 in cash, according to court records. In 1980, they moved from Detroit to Chicago, where Michael Polsky found success in the energy business.

Judges in Illinois have some leeway in determining how to split marital assets. Rosenfeld successfully argued that Maya Polsky was her 57-year-old husband’s trusted confidant and therefore entitled to half of the estate.

“They would walk together after dinners, and Michael would share details of his work, looking for empathy, advice or merely an open ear,” Rosenfeld wrote in court filings. “For many years, their marital partnership flourished. Michael provided sustenance and security, and Maya provided love, support, advice and counsel.”

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

oh too sorry for the double post thought the first one did not make it through!!

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

@Ouch, Citing irreconcilible differences, Maya Polsky, a 55-year-old homemaker and art gallery owner, filed for divorce from her husband, Michael Polsky, in 2003.

So partnerships fail also so where does that leave a couple be it married or as one put it the other relationships?

By Demi

June 5, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

KB GA.man broke me out of my slump, I good now. watch this==>>

Lady J, I feel you on the gas prices. Even my ballin’ish friends were at the pumps highly upset this past weekend.

Jane LOL and how are you today?

===>>> Demi is now the humpty hump rain dance

Come on ladies get low with me with deep voice Get low get low…Get low get low…

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

GAMAN does this mean we’ve squashed this east coast v. west coast stuff? Quiet as its kept, NC asked me if she couls get those pics of me in my nut-huggers. She’s playing both sides against the middle.

Royal chic great posts. Sounds like someone speaking form experience.

Jane I have a FEW of those couples on my street. I don’t see how a dude can sit there and take that kind of mess. Especially this one chick, she publicly blasts her hubby like no ones business. The thing is he must like it or he’d check it. Personally, I’d never let it get to that point.

By Ouch!

June 5, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Lady J Restate your question, I’m not sure I get what you’re asking. We know that relationships, be they partnerships or dictatorships can fail. This one happened to end in divorce. If they had not been married, then maybe the two would have just walked away, I don’t know. I just found the story interesting.

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Quiet as its kept, NC asked me if she couls get those pics of me in my nut-huggers. She’s playing both sides against the middle.

Yep…to post on hotmess.com! MLB Alert Truth is wearing his baby brother’s clothes again (as opposed to his baby sisters’s clothes…but we’ll deal with that next week…one disaster at time.) Someone please get him out of those smedium shirts.

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

@ Truth…thats crazy…its a matter of respect..u have to respect each other..and words cant be taken back and they often hurt worse then beat down…in the long run…which leads again to respect..some of these females…and males…are not self respecting..anyting u have to blast each other out in public…its past time to leave…i will leave a chic on the spot of she ever show out on me. in public…and depending how she does it…she may catch an open hand slap in the chops…if she gets in the way of me leaving..

By abc

June 5, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

As bad or worse are married women sitting around comparing notes on who has the biggest loser of a husband. Some folks just get off on b*** and moanin.

By For Real

June 5, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Slim I agree with Melo. I think you will make a great wife. I think you get it or at least know where it is. You just don’t use it all the time but you are ahead of most women because they don’t even know what it is.

Sorry, I have been watching a Ku Fu marathon Grasshopper

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

@Ouch! It was an interesting article and that was my point…I am not as dumd as I sound the point I was making and you made was that they do fail so we as humans just have to do right by them our best and hope for a great outcome and if not keep it moving!!! Great Post to you!!!:)

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

dumb now of all words to mispell…anyway that was funny…lol

By For Real

June 5, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

For Real now slow kicking Ga.Man & Truth in the ballz Ku Fu style. Now that I have your attention. MLB rule number 117 states:

All incidents by and between members of the MLB shall be settled like men via a drinking contest.

By Ouch!

June 5, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Lady J you didn’t sound dumb at all! I actually thought we were thinking similar thoughts on that, I just didn’t want to misread and respond with some stupid comment. I agree, all we can do is try to do right and hope for the same…and if not, you said it - keep it moving!! Kudos to you!

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Truth a little bit of friendly advice: try not to mention knut huggers and ‘playing both sides against the middle’ in the same paragraph. It makes for a very awkward visual. lol

Inspired by Demi’s rendition of get low, Slim attempts to drop it like it’s hot & ends up setting a world record for World’s Deepest Granny Panty Wedgie

NC LOL—> smedium LOLOLOL

Sean J I’m wit you on the arguments on display of the public. And what’s worse is when the other party tries to show out in front of company and/or friends. Hellz to da naw! Don’t pull that card unless you want everyone to know you still suck your thumb in your seat and like to smell women’s panties.

For Real In the words of the spoofed Samuel Jackson in Epic Movie “I’m tired of all these muthaphuckin snakes on this muthaphuckin plane!” LOL don’t ask what this has hellabeans to do with, i’ve been dying to say that

By For Real

June 5, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

ANNUAL MLB SAFETY TEST

SENSITIVITY TEST FOR MEN

A. Lovemaking. B. Screwing C. Taking the pigskin bus to tuna town.

A. Your views about what you expect from a sexual relationship. B. Your blood-test results. C. Five tequila slammers

A. Your partner climaxes first. B. You both climax simultaneously. C. You don’t miss ESPN Sports Center.

A. Healthy, creative love-play. B. Not the sort of thing your wife/girlfriend would agree to. C. Not the sort of thing your wife/girlfriend needs to ever find out about.

A. The best part of the experience. B. The second best part of the experience. C. $100 extra.

A. Of no influence on your affection for her. B. Not a problem, she can join your gym. C. A conservative estimate.

A. A myth. B. An oxymoron. C. A moron.

A. An appetizer is to an entree. B. Primer is to paint. C. A long line is to an amusement park ride.

A. Probably needs a little more time before she can cope with that sort of intimacy. B. Is uptight and a waste of time. C. Shouldn’t have sat next to you on the bus in the first place.

Evaluating Results:

If you answered A more than 7 times, check your pants to make sure you really ARE a man.

If you answered B more than 7 times, check into therapy. You’re a little confused.

If you answered C more than 7 times, YOU DA MAN!

IF A MAN SPEAKS IN THE FOREST AND THERE IS NO WOMAN TO HEAR HIM, IS HE STILL WRONG?

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

another day another dollar…until tomorrow…all take care!

peace

By Red Khezu

June 5, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

I don’t believe either gender has better Negotiation skills, I believe its a matter whether or not that particular person is willing to negotiate or not. I really would not follow what an “alleged” Expert tells you either, all expert can do is give you thier opinion thats it, they would like to believe they are a expert but its just an opinion they believe as right.

But to stay on point, yes I’d be more than happy to negotiate with my partner within reason. Relationships are a two way streets, both partners need to get what they want out of it. If one persons needs are not fufilled, the relationship may not last. Negotiation is the key to making any relationship work. If you cant come to terms, then it was never meant to be, don’t try to force it that will make things worse.

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

SJ you woman beating sob, no good, mean spririted sob, sob. Sean, I wanted you to see what I get when I make statements like that. LMAO

Michael Polsky could have saved a ton of money had he spoken with OJ first. I say splurge and have someone kill that pos attorney also.

NC I told you before, there not my baby brothers clothes. There my nephews. LMAO @ smedium.

I agree Slim may be a keeper. If nothing else she’ll keep you laughing so much you won’t know your mad at her. Really alot of the women of the WLB are getting their laugh on more and frown on less. Good for you ladies.

By Lady J

June 5, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

@Ouch! Thanks for the Kudos!!! It’s been a great day and a smile is on my face now off to play with lil lady j!!!

Bye yall!!!

By curious

June 5, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

I have a question- lets say your SO went out for “guy time” after work, which is fine, but then you find out that one of the guys has a crush on a co worker and somehow those girls just “showed up” and your SO didnt tell you about it— well, my friend and i were going to go out to eat but she ended up go to hang out with her fiance and so my husband invited me along and the girls were there when i got there. should i be upset or worried or is that just innocent.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Sean J that should’ve read suck your thumb in your sleep not seat. hehehe

By Demi

June 5, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Sexi, Sexi Sexi!!! You know how I Wuv my mature sisters, right? When sista girl step outta that accord, hit this mean a$$ sista girl, all a brother could do was hold the door open lika a 5 year old boy. I felt proud of myself for inviting myself to have a quick lunch with her…You bet I was nervous!!

Demi is now being kidnip by strange dudes in an Urang/w a MLB4LYFE license plate

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

@ Slim…dont take this the wrong way….but u seem like the type to str8 cut the fool and clown a dude in public..

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Heeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy Everyone

I’m late on the convo, but as they say, “better late than never”

@Wise….Did the show you vaguely mentioned aired on Sunday? If so, I watched it and was a little surprised with some of the comments the one gentleman made, but the one thing he said that stuck out like a sore thumb was, “wanting a wife and not a business partner”…. This attitude goes back to self preservation of the male role and ego.

Since on one wants to say it….this topic is about the age old condition called “submission”. Today, many women are taught to be independent. Our culture has long suffered from the slow, but perpetual cessation of the black family….(going back to slavery). As someone pointed out earlier, men a no longer taught to be husbands and fathers; and women a taught to stand on their own because so many women in their families have been taking care of the household (absent of husbands and fathers). When it comes to relationships whether dating or within marriage…making shared decisions are expected. Many of the decisions will require some compromise from either party……if both individuals know “how to communicate” and want the best outcome in the relationship then compromising becomes easier.

Furthermore the whole argument about not wanting a woman that makes more money …..is weak (in my opinion). If you love a person and the both of you have common goals, why not go for it. Why wouldn’t you want a partner that can help the household financially?

SJ…..so she should keep her mouth shut……..huh

By For Real

June 5, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Slim Don’t start with the Samuel Jackson quotes. I just watched Jackie Brown again this weekend. That movie is funny as hell.

Is that what I think it is? What do you think it is? I think it’s a gun pressed up against my dyck. Well, then that’s what it is. Now get yo got dayumm hands from around my neck.

Freakin Classic…..

By Red Khezu

June 5, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

For Real here are my answers to your little quiz.

A B A B A A D never gets credit A D gross, never would happen anyway.

By Melo

June 5, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

@curious, ur husband invited u, so whats the BIG deal?!! Ur husband is not in control over every other adult and what they do or where they go.

By BlatinoBrutha -

June 5, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

ya’ll rang??? smooches to my WLB huneez….

“BROTHERS OF THE MLB…. HEAR ME!!!” I devote one day to the Man, actually earning my pay today, and this is what happens???

Men, we cannot be coming apart at the seams like this… it’s simply not the MLB way. All disagreements are to be handled in house. GAMan, I’m extremely disappointed in your behavior. Truth, you ain’t getting off easy either. Your ID Badges for MLB headquarters will be on restricted access until you clear this up. Yes, that means no beer fridge.

ON TOPIC: I’m going to depart from the norm here, and quote from the real MLB, authored by the Original G>>>. Two things: 1) The golden rule states to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, but Jesus before he died took it one step further… he commanded his disciples to love each other as HE loved them, being willing to give his life for them. In marriage, you must find someone that you can have that kind of love for. 2) The headship principle as described in Good Book is as follows; it is not one of domineering control, “I’m the boss” mentality. It is based on loving guidance and oversight on family matters. Further, it cannot function without a woman’s submission. Remember, true submission from the heart is something that can only be given, not taken. And it in no way whatsoever implies the woman to be lower than the man in any way; God took from Adam’s RIB to make Eve, she was to make him complete and serve as a partner, not a servant. Just my two cents.

* *PS, the long post was necessary based on the dire state of today’s blog. Any attempts and giving the Pooba a citation will be met with severe retaliation. **

By For Real

June 5, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

SJ Can you open hand slap Curious for me my zipper is stuck.

By "Longtime Lurker"

June 5, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

@Wise Lurker & Crew

Wise,I think you made a point on the Partner and Wife situation with most dudes, but you are still making a generalization on ALL dudes!

It’s like this, as a woman, you gotta make a life decision on what ranks in your “5” Career, Family, Man, Money, Kids and not necessarily in that order!

Some chicks put their career first, money, kids then they dude and most dudes can’t handle that nor want that!

These women often try to wear the pants in the relationship and don’t really value that man, but see him in the same light as having a second car, a fancy handbag or a new pair of shoes…he’s an option, not a asset!

The other case for a lot of women is the woman that does not have enough options in her own life and she puts the man at the number one position and everything else evolves around him. Very few women have an equal balance between the two scenarios I just outlined, this is a fact!

Now back to Wise’s point, you as the woman have to decide if you want to be a partner or a wife; it is very hard to be both with a lot of dudes and unfortunately, it is your own fault!

In order for that dude to see you as both, he has to (1) See the value in you being both (2) Respect what you bring to the table (3) See the long term benefits of having you as both a partner and a wife!

If you don’t do a good job as the woman in pre-sales (getting to know period with ole boy, prior to dating him seriously), he will in most cases never see you as nothing more than being a wife piece!

He considers his partner a homeboy, not his woman!

If you establish a friendship first with a dude and demonstrate you can take a few blows on the chin and go to battle when needed, you may have a better chance of being viewed as a partner and a wife.

You have to properly demonstrate both in the early dating stages, prior to a serious relationship, but definitely not after the relationship has started!

You never get a second chance to make a first impression and rarely do you get a second chance to prove your worth after the company as viewed you as an employee vs. the management.

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

@ Truth..i would smirk or laugh but most of the time i ignore harsh words…verbally i am not into hurting women…when u ignore them…u render their weapon powerless…and when they dont get the reaction they want out of you…they snap…and like the saying goes…snap..crackle…u will get popped..

By curious

June 5, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

thank you. that is exactly what i needed to know. you guys are right

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

IG I see you were quick to say that men were not taught to be fathers or husbands but women are taught to stand strong on their own. Could it be that men have learned that the father/ husband role is not as rewarding as they thought it would be and are standing strong without a woman?

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Truth a little bit of friendly advice: try not to mention knut huggers and ‘playing both sides against the middle’ in the same paragraph. It makes for a very awkward visual.

Slim I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who got that visual…eeeewwww!!!

Dang Blatino…the Poobah has spoken. Now all we need is a ^5 and gold boot seal of approval from Que & DuShawn who seem to be missing this week. LOL! Hon, while you’re at it, handle those knut hugger shorts and smedium shirts. Well…ok…don’t actually handle them…just ban them! LOL!

For Real You stoopid! LMAO!

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

@ IrieGirl….i dont care who brings home the bacon….lets eat…as far keeping your mouth shut…answer this for me…u are a island female right…why is it that most island women are so bossy and slick out of the mouth?? not saying u are..but just asking..

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Blantino, I agree with you 100%. This thing is about submission and some people get the whole principal twisted. Some men think submission means bet the hellz out of her, clean the house, stay bare feet and pregnant, I can go on with this. On the other end, some women think submission is demeaning her strength as a woman, or becoming a slave to her man, etc. It is all about love and sacrifice and not trying to prove you are better, stronger, or smarter than the other.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Sean J Nah, I wouldn’t purposely try to clown on someone in a negative way in public unless it’s a group of us acting a fool. I don’t try to hurt folks feelings.

IG what’s up gurrrl! Great post with some great points.

For Real I haven’t seen that movie in a while. I might have to check that out again.

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

NEWS FLASH. Serena lost her match.

Blat the punishment is kinda severe for the crime my bruh. At least save me a few corona’s with lime. I tried to squash this stuff this morning.

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

@SJ….so have you had this experience with island women? I can’t speak for the generations of island womean. Might just be the one or two women you’ve dated. I will tell you this though, women within our culture tend to be straight forward in conversation….they will tell it like it is “no condiments included”. Now some may see that as being bossy, some may not. It just depends on how the message is delivered and how it is recieved.

By T-Mango

June 5, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

T-Mango walks in to blog party all late, desheveled and ish singing “Rock Me Tonight” by Freddie Jackson…(better late than nevah)

One late afternoon hair flip to the WLB and 1 chinese split to the MLB. (lol)

I see I missed the fireworks today. I also see my sisters held it down. Just dropping in to say hello…

By Demi

June 5, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Sean J dude I got you beat.Removing hearing aids in the middle of an argument, can get you killed. Woke up with a knife to my throat, LOL

Y’all of the hearing population do not like being ignored.

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Hey Slim

@Truth….it is true that in many households women are not holding up their end of the bargain. It goes both ways, but one thing that is predominately hurting our black family structue is the absence of fathers and husbands. Is this reality because there are so many woman that are bad wives and mothers? You tell me…..

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Slim sees T-Mango awing the MLB with her chinese split and figures she’ll try it herself. Slim breaks her previously set record on World Deepest Granny Panty Wedgie

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Hi TMango, you dont happen to be wearing a skirt are you?

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

@ IrieGirl…women of color have a natural sassiness to them…but the one or two island females i dealt with were ultra bossy..so i just wanted to know if its like that through out the culture..where the women are so oppinionated and mouthy…seem like all they do is bark orders…they are wetter than average..so it almost balances out..lmao

By kinderbabe

June 5, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

hey IG:)

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Sean J I of course can’t speak for all island women. However, my ex’s family was from the islands and his mother and aunts were the way you described. They run the show.

By MusingLee

June 5, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

awwww dayumm…did T-Mango just do a chinese split and lose her wooden leg?!?!

Musing now replaying split in slow motion mentally for a peek at the “cat nip”.

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Kinder

@SJ,…I don’t know…could be. I’m a lover and not a fighter…so I can’t say much on that.

@Truth…another thing that struck me when I watched a show the other day. There’s a pastor out in Texas that decided to help out a principal at a high school that has been plagued with gang violence. He asked all of the male members in his church to show up at the school and walk the halls. Since they started coming to the school and walking the halls, the violence has ceased.

Look at what the presence of a man can do

By MusingLee

June 5, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Demi if you take that hearing aid out you’d better dayum well act like you reading some lips…

Musing now purchasing glasses with eyeballs painted on them for demi to sleep through arguments

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

He considers his partner a homeboy, not his woman!

And therein lies the problem.

SJ Ok, you just highlighted another pet peeve of mine. When having a stressful discussion (notice, I didn’t say argument, b/c you get nowhere when you argue) the silent treatment is a punk move. Sorry, but I had to say it. If you’re wondering why women get so upset when you tune her out, and don’t respond (and she gets louder as a result), it’s b/c you’ve made it patently clear that her feelings/emotions/perspectives aren’t important. It’s just as bad (to me) as actually slapping her in the face.

WLB Tip #1: If you want your woman to stop talking about something, engage her in conversation, when she brings it up, not when you get good and ready. The longer you wait to have the conversation, the more she will b*tch about you not talking to her, and the longer the conversation will be.

WLB Tip #2: The so-called Cooling Down Period of a woman, not to be confused with the cool down your bizalls might experience while she is on her period, does not exist. See Tip #1 for tips on how to proceed. Remember, a stitch in time saves nine (years in the pen for assault).

By For Real

June 5, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

T-Mango Thanks for the shot. I will make sure I put you on the forefront on my next flyer for upscale Strip Clubs.

Slim That’s gonna start bleevin…. hold still.. thank you umm your camel toe doesn’t look to happy tho..

IG Question for you. *Why is it that when a single mother raise a child and the child turns out all right she is praise and everyone says, “see you don’t need a man to raise a child” but that child ends up in jail or is a str8 fool it’s the fathers fault and not mom’s?

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Slim now putting a sign-up sheet in front of the MLB headquarters for volunteers to come walk her halls. LOLOLOL i’m delirious yawl

By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert

June 5, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Pause to Vent

Can any of you men folks out there explain to me why—why on the Green-Blue Earth you think we all want your jellyroll? Why Why Why? If a woman-stop let me clarify- a real woman says she is ok with not dating you or having sex anymore but please let us remain friends…why cant you just believe that she is ok with just being your dang gone friend? Why must you assume that if she says hello..she wants some tuti fruit..Hello is just that hello. Good freaking grief. It is times like this I would love to do a hoochie round up and say see what you have done. You have warped them all.

Thank You.

By Dark Brown

June 5, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

It’s quite possible that I am going to say something that has already been said as relates to today’s topic.

My entire relationship with my mate is defined by compromise, collaboration, and negotiation. Everything from what we’re having for dinner tonight to what we’re going to watch on tv.

There is most definitely give and take. Sometimes, there is more give than take. Sometimes, I have to give A LOT to get a little. The important thing in that is keeping your eye on the bigger picture and finding balance.

You have to remember that a relationshp does not live and die in one day or in one situation or in one argument. It is a series of connected events over a period of time that color your relationship history. Just because I give something big today for a small gain does not mean that I lose. It may just mean that WE win. (And isn’t that the point?)

As it happens, my mate and I have a fairly good balance. There are days when I know that he wishes he’d never laid eyes on me. By the same token, there are times when I can picture myself kicking his dyck in (i kid, i kid). All in all, I am the happy camper - unless I’m PMSing.

By BlatinoBrutha -

June 5, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Understood, Truth Bru. But it’s only short term til ya’ll get this resolved. You know how much GA loves his Heineken. He’ll drop the suit within 24 hours.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Musing You wrong for that boy…glasses with eyeballs painted on them for demi to sleep through arguments What will demi do once they realize he hasn’t blinked in an hour? Waking up to a blip slap is not fun.

For Real you have any remedies for my sickly camel toe. I thought it could survive at least 2 weeks without water, guess it ain’t true that the moisture is kept in the humbs

Slim not walking down the street with camel toe exposed singing ‘my humps, my humps, my lovely lade lumps”

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

@ IrieGirl….do you any kids…and is the father involved?? just asking..i see you feel strong about men being fathers…regarding the presence of men…male kids like structure…its very important for them to see a positive role model in the form of a man…its also very important that females if they are not with the father to try to date responsible men that respect them…its so many factors involved..

@ Slim…i remember taking classes with them that had labs and they would str8 take over the lab….i had to check a couple of them on few occassions.

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

@NCATLIEN……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

LMAO @ Dr. Kym’s rant! Gon’girl!! Tell it like it t-i-is! That’s how stalkers get started. Lawd!

snickering about the tuti fruit and jellyroll..teeheehee!!

By abc

June 5, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

NCGirl, engaging conversation is much of what I like about my girl. I’d say if the guy is doing his best to ignore a mouthy broad, it’s because he just doesn’t dig her that much.

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Real…What? Where is that discussion taking place. I’m a single mother and I’m an anomaly among my very close friends. Most of my friends are single without children. Some are financially set….some are not. I also keep company with some married couples that are without children and some with children. Now with the makeup of my social circles, I’ve not heard one person with good sense say “a child is better off without a father figure”.

I am confident in saying that in most media discussions such as this blog, I’ve not read that either. You would hear that sentiment from women that have resentment or issues on a personal level with men. I would say that if you have been personally told this, consider your source. Like they say birds of a feather folk together….I prefer to keep it real and positive.

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Sean J So you’re the guy i heard about setting islanders on fire with the bunsen burner..by ‘accident’. lol But one of the issues I had with my ex was that i wanted him to stand up and take the lead but i guess he was used to his mother alway taking over that he really didn’t know how or had to.

By For Real

June 5, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

NC Awwwwwww Dayummmmmm… Why does it have to be a man is “patently clear that her feelings/emotions/perspectives aren’t important.” Lets take a look at the above from a man’s prespective:

Feeling: I don’t feel like hearing the same ish again.

Emotions: Man if I have sit here one more time and listen to the same ish I am going to take this shirt off and become what I have on underneath it.

Prespective: I think you are wrong and no matter how you say it, I still will not agree with you.

By SeanJohnson

June 5, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

@NCATLIEN..on the real…thats the lawyer in you coming out…i dont dwell in petty spats…i save my energy for the real stuff that relationships encounter…

By The Truth

June 5, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

IG lets come to grips with the fact that there are alot of sorry azzed wives and mothers out there. Now a trifling azzed woman can do as she pleases and still have laws to protect her. Likewise the laws that prevent a parent from wupping a bad child. Everyone in this deal gets protection except the mean man whose stuck with the blame for everything that goes wrong. If you do the math dam near 100% of the time the dude wins by bailing because at least he can get some peace of mind. He has a kid he cant’ spank and a wife thats outta control. Exit, stage left.

I am college educated, a veteran, never been to jail, don’t do drugs, 6 figure income, never slept with a man, 750+ credit score, etc… I have 2 opportunities to become a criminal, go out and do something stupid like kill someone or marry some chick who drags me thru the legal system. Which do you think is more likely to happen? In essence I have to protect myself from YOU. And the dudes who don’t pay for it monthly. You have become the enemy.

Disclaimer: These are the views of the THE TRUTH* and in no way represent the MLB. (Unless a few bruh’s want to cosign.

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

@Real…..that should have read…without a father or father figure as a role mode.

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

yes Island Girl, I think I Tivo’d it from a Sunday broadcast. I may not have agreed with “Thomas”, but he did speak rather candidly and I think he represented a lot of the “type” of guys I have dated in the past, uhh which tells me that, Diva is about to think outside her box, LOL

By kinderbabe

June 5, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

darkbrown i appreciate your post. i found it to be very informative and humorous (especially the last paragraph). i can definitely relate to what your saying…i am currently working to find the balance in my relationship. it encourages me to continue when i hear about relationships like yours that are healthy and balanced. keep up the good work!:)

night, night everyone!

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

@**SJ…yes, I feel very strongly about fathers taking responsibility….irregardless if things did not workout with the wife/girlfriend, etc. I hate watching the news these days. Look at the two girls that got killed at that graduation party over the weekend. Just senseless…for those folks to show up and shoot up the place. I won’t be surprised if the guys caught would be young males.

By Mo (now known as Moeisha)

June 5, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Afternoon ALL!! I didnt have to time to play today but I see you guys were off da chain as usual!! Have a good night!!

Hair flip to the WLB and soft kisses to the MLB

By Dr. Kym-Relationship Expert

June 5, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

NC there is not enough space to explain the utter ignorance I encountered today. I just had to vent that out. The situation will take care of it’s self.

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

I was really seeing the points you were making until you bust out with You have become the enemy.

That is utter BS and you know it, and if you think that way, this behavior/attitude definitely manifests itself in how you date and/or marry, or in your case, screw women with no commitment and shack up.

By BlatinoBrutha -

June 5, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Cosigning Truth’s Post

By SlimOne

June 5, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Wise I think they should’ve also had two women as they did two male panelists. Doing so would give a wider view of the female perspective.

By Demi

June 5, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Musin/Slim LOL my mom use to beat the snot out of me for doing just that.

NC Time out babe, I am willing to listen and engage in convo, but I will sit and be yelled at in or out of public…you are only allowed to scream: 1. my name during sex 2. if I am too far away to hear you (5ft) 3. if I am causing O’s back to back.

Other then those reason, do not rise your voice with me and I will do the same.

By For Real

June 5, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

Truth Everythang except Enemy. That’s the question I was trying to get IG to answer.

By NCGirlfromATL

June 5, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

SJ I’m not talking about the petty spats. I might tune those out myself. I’m talking about the real relationship tests.

For Real I just love it love it love it when you prove my points for me! mmmmmmmuuuuuuaaaaaaaaah!!

By IslandGirl

June 5, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

@Diva

I know, he opened my eyes to dating too. Maybe it is ok, to date outside of the race.

@Truth enough said…..no comment.

By Wise Diva

June 5, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

yea, Lauren Lake tried to represent as best she could though, LOL. She sooo reminded me of myself, that jazzy mouth is classic “diva”

HAVE A GREAT EVENING EVERYONE!

By Alvin

June 5, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

*…screw women with no commitment and shack up.

Yep, that’s what I call a wise man.