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Sliding Doors

Sliding Doors is on the list of my favorite movies that I can watch over and over, preferably on Sunday afternoons, curled up with a pint of Godiva© ice cream. In the film, Gwyneth Paltrow’s character is fired from her job, leaves the office and heads home. When the “sliding doors” of the subway car closes on her, the film begins to explore what would have happened if she’d made the train, and what would have happened if she hadn’t. I won’t give the plot away for those who have not seen it, but the film shows how this one event affects every aspect of her life. It was interesting to see how much her character differed greatly in the two separate destinies, from her hairstyle, to her demeanor to her attitude. She seemed to have changed and evolved differently as a direct result from the sliding doors that caused her to miss or catch the train.

I just read a very touching story about a young lady who died on September 11 when she went to file her divorce papers in one of the law firms in the twin towers. It is astounding when you contemplate how a seemingly minor action – choosing that particular office, as opposed to the firm’s other office- placed the young mother in one of the towers on that day. As I read this story, I couldn’t help but wonder: What if her marraige was a happy one? What if she never met her husband and chose to marry someone else or stay single? It is amazing when you think about all the “what if’s” that could have altered the chain of events in her tragic story.

What are your thoughts about fate and destiny?

Is there a relationship in your past that fundamentally changed who you were, and possibly the course of your life?

Have you ever felt as if you reached a crossroad in your life where the choices you make could completely place your life on a different path?

I read somewhere that “our choices are the hinges of our destiny”. Do you agree?

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By VANikia

November 8, 2005 08:19 AM | Link to this

I mentioned this movie a few weeks ago in my blog….. I loved this movie because it is one of the movies that illustrated the idea of fate effectively. “Music from another room” is also a good movie. I believe in fate and destiny thats why I try not to get so bent out of shape when I am faced with adversity. I believe that everything happens for a reason and each reason has a purpose in my life.

I found out yesterday (my birthday) that my aunt died. She was a seemingly healthy person and it was a big surprise. No one is sure when she died but they know she was alive on Friday because of a letter she wrote. As I was thinking about all I had planned for the weekend I realized that I wasn’t able to follow through with those plans for a reason…. I needed to be here with my family so everything accually worked out the way it was supposed to.

I think every relationship in my past has shaped and molded me into the woman I am today and I wouldn’t change anything about them. I feel that I am at the crossroads in my life now, but I know that whatever road I take is the one that was meant for me. It is so easy to play the “what if” game but since I can’t go back and change the past I try not to dwell on the “what if’s” too long.

BTW Good Morning Everyone!!!

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 08:48 AM | Link to this

of course, “our choices are the hinges of our destiny.” Life is based on choices!!! ala, freewill, if each choice you make is based on truth and righteousness, then you cannot err….as far as a relationship that altered the course of my life…heck yeah, this one chic named Lisa…man, this girl woulda walked thru hell with gasoline panties on for me…but I shytted on her…and it wasn’t til I got (back) with the ex did I realize what I had….dammit man!

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 09:00 AM | Link to this

Sometimes you don’t appreciate what you have until it’s gone…. That’s life and as messed up as it can be it is sometimes necessary for us to learn lifes lesson.

By QC

November 8, 2005 09:30 AM | Link to this

Morning Bloggers have a great day, i’ll be lurking most of the day but will try to peep in later hey 2

By BlackIce

November 8, 2005 09:31 AM | Link to this

Good Morning

Great post Diva and great response VAN!

My last relationship was the one that changed me and I have not decided if it was for better or worse yet.

However, there are few things that I would change, because of him I have wonderful children, a greater appreciation for money and a small glipse into how the ‘other half’ lives, a better sense of business acumen, a greater appreciation for myself and my tolerance levels, etc, etc.

I agree that life is about choices and that every choice we make has an effecto n the rest of our lives.

Again great post

By sd

November 8, 2005 09:36 AM | Link to this

Morning Diva and bloggers

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 09:42 AM | Link to this

all hail the Queen! congrats, sweetie…you deserve it.

By QC

November 8, 2005 09:43 AM | Link to this

thanks 2 hey BlackIce

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 09:47 AM | Link to this

Sorry to hear about your Aunt, VANikia.

By Str8

November 8, 2005 09:52 AM | Link to this

Hey er’body..

Hey BlackIce…

your destiny is set by a set of choices one makes in life. If you stand on the edge of the bridge, you can choose your destiny 2 ways… You can jump, or you can walk away… that’s extreme, but might illustrate the point.

destiny has never chosen a husband for anyone, has never made any one person rich, or killed anyone. Like the popular saying goes, everyone is the captain of their fate.

I just believe, whatever you face, whatever point you’re in life you always have a chance to go very opposite directions. the one which you end up going is ultimately chosen by YOU

By BlackIce

November 8, 2005 09:52 AM | Link to this

Hey Queen! How’s the new house?

By BlackIce

November 8, 2005 09:53 AM | Link to this

Hey Str8!!!!! How is everything going

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 09:53 AM | Link to this

Diva….this topic is related to what you asked me last week….makes you think, how can you have freewill to choose, but yet, have a predetermined destiny…..will you reach your destiny regardless of the choices you make, or can you alter your destiny based on those same choices???? And how does one even know their destiny?

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this

Why would you want to know your destiny? Wouldn’t it be more helpful to know your purpose?

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 09:57 AM | Link to this

if you know your purpose, then aren’t you destined to know what you are to do/become? Isn’t destiny and purpose related?

By Str8

November 8, 2005 10:02 AM | Link to this

I don’t think it is possible for anyone to know their destiny… because there not a destiny set for you… However, it is very possible for someone to create their destiny and Diva, knowing your purpose in life goes a long way in creating your destiny. So I agree with you, it more important to search/know your purpose because it will go a long way in creating your destiny.

Purpose in itself, is a choice. something that you choose to pursue in order to make your life meaningful… IT too is not set for any one person. You have to choose/create one.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 10:02 AM | Link to this

You tell me, you are the genius (smile)

By Ignatius

November 8, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this

VAN, so sorry to hear about your Aunt. My prayers are with you and your family.

I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reson. Whether you believe in a master plan by the master creator, fate, whatever, mathmatically, the entire universe is in balance. I think we have freedom of choice, but I don’t know that our choices affect much more than our own little corner of the world. My philosophy is there is very little I can do to change things that are supposed to happen or to have a lot fo bearing on things that do happen, so I just sit back, enjoy the ride, do what I feel led to to do, love eevrybody, and be happy. Please don’t tell me how the story ends. ;)

You all have a great day!

By Str8

November 8, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this

although I know most religious pple would argue that your main purpose in this world is to Glorify God… can’t argue much against that… But you still have a choice of how you gonna do that..

end results, choices, choices, choices - the not so well kept secret to everything

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 10:06 AM | Link to this

Well said, Str8, sir. Thank you for agreeing with me..for a change, LOL. J/K

By Str8

November 8, 2005 10:07 AM | Link to this

Blackice - my world is still rotating in its axis… I can’t complain. Nice to see you on here.

By divine1

November 8, 2005 10:08 AM | Link to this

Smooches to Iggy

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 10:13 AM | Link to this

Diva, I’on know!!!….I like Str8’s answer, but that still leaves more questions……

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 10:14 AM | Link to this

Thanks Blackice! When I read about that young mother, it really touched me. Sometimes, thinking about your own mortality can really put things into perspective.

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 10:15 AM | Link to this

@Str8- I once heard a story about a girl that stood on the edge of that bridge… she decided to jump, but guess what she didn’t die. She tried to alter her destiny but failed, now thats not to say that if she kept trying she wouldn’t eventually succeed but she used her freewill and didn’t get the results she desired her destiny for that moment was to be alive. Destiny may not choose our spouse but it can choose what happens to our spouse, so that leads back to the original question “are our choices really the hinges of our destiny?” I don’t know.

This blog topic will lead to more questions than answers because we ultimately don’t know our destiny, that is something that we may never find out. We walk around daily possibly touching each others lives in ways that are unknown. Some of us may have already fulfilled our destiny.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 10:18 AM | Link to this

Van, you have a point…and the thing is..even if we did know our destiny, even if we found all these “answers” , we, as humans, would find a way to screw it up!

By NoNonsense

November 8, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Everyone.

I decided to get some blog viewing in while paying some bills online. I have my mom on infant duty and my dad on toddler duty. LOL

On topic, I believe that every person and situation comes into our lives for a reason, to channel us into the path of our destiny. Our lives are just what they are, our lives. If I did anything different from what I did or am going to do, it wouldn’t be my life. Sometimes things happen to prepare us for a much bigger issue that is to come.

I hear babies crying and kids running. Only a matter of time before my dad come handing me a kid.

I’ll be lurking between feeding and diaper changes. LOL

By NoNonsense

November 8, 2005 10:21 AM | Link to this

Happy Birthday Vanikia and sorry to hear about your aunt.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 10:24 AM | Link to this

Um, NoNonsense, I thought you were on bedrest? When is your due date?

By aggressively witty

November 8, 2005 10:25 AM | Link to this

I hate the mythical idea of fate/destiny. I am not a fatalist. I dont believe in it. For real this is prolly one of my biggest issues with organized religion, especially christianity. Because if you replace the words fate or destiny with god and the lord you get a lot of the same stuff.

The lord must have wanted it that way. it was in gods plan. god always has a plan for us. same thing as ‘it was your destiny” only difference is the use of some deities name allows us to place blame or give glory. I hate that. Step up and take the credit and or the blame.

I gotta admit, I do like that movie though. Well acted.

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 10:26 AM | Link to this

yep, Str8, this does cross over into the religious/spiritual/metaphysical world… but ain’t gon go there….

By divine1

November 8, 2005 10:32 AM | Link to this

@Van - I’m sorry to hear about your families loss. You all are in my thoughts and prayers. It is times like this that we remember how precious those around us are to us. My question is why does it take something like this to help us remember these facts. Why don’t are prone to take each other for granted instead of showing each other with little gestures how much they mean to us.

@*WD - You’ve done it again. Wonderful topic and you have added a new entry to my list of movies to purchase. Loving your topics Miss DIVA!!!!!!!

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

@ *Divine (hugs)! Thanks sweetie! Get the hanky/tissues ready. It is a total chick flick, LOL.

@2 Yea, as I was writing this entry, I was thinking, your belief system will definitely determine your perception of fate, destiny, etc. I suppose it is all intertwined because what we believe is a part of who we are.

By LaideeA

November 8, 2005 10:40 AM | Link to this

I’ve been in and out of this blog for a few months, reading the comments, but never felt completely compelled to respond-until now. It’s strange. My husband and I had this conversation not too long ago after hearing “Where Would I Be..If I Didn’t Know You by Kindred.”

I met my husband while in high school (went to different Dekalb Co. schools) at a library. I believe it may have been 2 ‘split-second’ decisions that created our outcome. The original idea was for my friend and me to go to a certain library for a project, but found out it was not open; and so, we chose another. The second library was pretty full, but we found a few spots to go. We had the choice of getting a quiet/private study room or a table. For some reason (fate?), we chose the table that ended up being right next to my future husband’s.

After becoming friends, I found out we both lived near that particular library and had probably been there a few times at the same time, though we had never noticed/met one another until then.

It’s weird to think about the possible outcomes had my friend and I chose the study room or my husband sat in another area. Would we have ever met? Had we not met, we would not be the parents of a wonderful 2 year-old daughter nor would I be married my bestfriend.

By Str8

November 8, 2005 10:49 AM | Link to this

Vanikia, the way I see it, it is always a forked road. You make a decision only to face another decision to be make. Choosing the one way doesn’t not guarantee you gonna get the results/destiny you want. You might have to make a few other decisions on the way before you get it. Like the gal you speak of, she tried to make immediate death her destiny. she didn’t get it, I am sure she was left with another decision to make… whether or not she gonna try it again or give up and live.

By divine1

November 8, 2005 10:49 AM | Link to this

Okay, I’m going to try this again. The one person who had the most impact on my life was my grandmother. When she passed 8 years ago, my world seemed to stop spinning. I am not the same individual I was 8 years ago - I have lived in perpetual emotional bankruptcy for the past 6 1/2 years until I decided to make a change. When you have had someone like my grandmother in your life - you feel like you can do anything and be a success. She had such a gracious spirit that anyone who came in her presence was enamored by it. She gave so much to me, she was my nourishment that fed my spirit, she was the breath that gave me life, she was my everything and then some. When I think of LOVING SOMEONE UNCONDITIONALLY, the only person that comes to mind for me is my grandmother. Our relationship was very rare - picture being able to tell your GRANDMOTHER about your first sexual experience, or better yet picture her telling you about hers. We were very close, some might say I knew her better than anyone in her life did. She knew all my secrets and she felt comfortable enough to tell me several of hers. Our relationship was one I wish I had with my mother, but it’s not possible. She was my mother, my friend, my confidante and my heartbeat. When she died, a big part of me was buried with her. She’s the main reason I had my son so young. I could not imagine not having at least one of my children knowing her and having the honor of having her in their life. When my son was born my grandmother had already suffered 4 heart of attacks (over the course of many years) and had just recovered from brain surgery, he was lucky to have her for the 1st four years of his life. I will admit since her passing - I have not been able to cry at anyone else’s funeral, it’s almost like I am numb to those type of emotions. I often wonder, what life would be like if she hadn’t passed where I would be now. Would I have moved to Atlanta? Would I have made different choices had she been her to give her advice? Would my family be as broken apart as it is now? I miss her so much.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this

LaideeA, I’m glad you shared that. It is dizzying when you think about it! One small decision, and you never know where it could lead. Maybe you were meant to meet him, perhaps on a different day, but who knows what would have happened on that day.

Welcome, by the way

By NoNonsense

November 8, 2005 10:54 AM | Link to this

Hey, WD. Expected due date Nov. 16. Actual deliver date was October 22. Rebekah and Bethany. Mom and dad have really been very helpful.

Now only 2 months before I go back to work. Really looking forward to it. I love my kids, but GIMME A BREAK. LOL

By Str8

November 8, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

The thing that most pple don’t understand or give enough props to is the power of the sub-conscious mind. We make a lot of decisions without consciously knowing that we made them… and a lot of pple want to credit that to destiny. like when you drive home, most of the time you don’t consciously think about the route you’ll take… you sub-consciously made that decision. Have you ever been on the road and you can’t remember passing a certain stretch…

That’s another belief I hold strongly… If you can master how to tap into your sub-conscious mind to make consicous decisions (or even to just understand and recognize the sub-conscious decisions you make everyday), you can better control your destiny.

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

Congratulations NoNonsense!!!

By divine1

November 8, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

Congrats NONONSENSE

@WD - You, Tazz & Ivy would have fell in love my Grandma, not only because of her spirit but her cooking kept our house full holiday time. Just thinking about her Thanksgiving spreads has me wanting to eat meat again. :)

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

Oh! Congrats!! I was thinking you were due soon! Bless your heart. IF you can pull up a blog, then you doing a heckuva lot betta than my sister, and she had me living with her for a while. Glad they are here and healthy!

By abc

November 8, 2005 11:04 AM | Link to this

Whether attributed to God’s purpose, karma, or fate and destiny, I believe that everyone and everything happens to us for a reason. Our individual experiences in this regard shape us and affect us collectively as well. Trying to figure out the purpose of all the people and things that happen to you — or that you make happen — relies heavily on character. In that way, everyone has a hand in determining their own destiny.

I bet I can think of 5 or 6 events in my life that if I’d chosen the other path, my life would have been completely different after that. My pop used to call them ‘crossroads’. Everyone comes to at least a few in their lives. I look forward to those times.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 11:11 AM | Link to this

yea, um Divine..Imma need you to stop tryna make me misty at work, you know I hate being girlie and stuff, hmph.

That was beautiful, sounds like she was a blessing to you!

By divine1

November 8, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

@WD - Sorry. I was feeling a little nostalgic today.

Okay Now I have to post a positive crossroads. Had I not stumbled on this blog last April (when I was really at a crossroads in my life) and become intrigued by the posts and the people responding, I would have never have had the opportunity to become apart of such a wonderfully supportive online community.

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

@divine1 - don’t ever see myself telling my grand about my first time and I would probably flip if she told me hers (got the shivers just thinking of it) but on the real you got a glimpse of love many of us never see and you are definitely the better for it. Don’t fear not feeling what you and your grandma shared (no one can replace her) but with the insight of love through the relationship you had she taught you how to love and what love should look like - you got the model shorty use it and use it wisely -she passed on more than stories and knowledge she passed on wisdom. Your kids are blessed for the her she left behind in you - don’t forget it!

By QC

November 8, 2005 11:42 AM | Link to this

the house is still in a little mess we have boxes that need to be taken care of so it’s a day to day thing just taken our time getting things situated…oh and the we i’m talking about is my MOM we’re really enjoying our space and staying in the same apt. complex living one building from each just did’nt make no sense any more….and we get along GREAT! by me being single i could’nt imagine her not being a part of this blessing from God ;)

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 11:43 AM | Link to this

@Wise - sorry shorty I’m not even going to touch the subject even though it is an area that I have studied in great length - I couldn’t abbreviate it in such a way to bring a good understanding - that is book #2 “A Purpose Forsaken - Missed Opportunities” - I’m just going to lurk unless I see a moment to comment like with divine1

By Scornednomo

November 8, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

Morning.

Divine1 I can definitely relate to your feelings about your grandmother. I was the same with my mother.

Congrats NoNonsense

Sorry to hear of your lose Van

By divine1

November 8, 2005 11:47 AM | Link to this

@NoStress - LOL. You are not the first person to say that to me re: thinking of Grandma & sex. We just had a very open and honest relationship. She actually broached the subject with me, and trust that first convo was awkward but than I realized although I had placed her on a pedastal she was human too. Thank you for giving me that honor. Believe me, if I were half the woman she was I would be something. You’ve got me welling up over her, and like Wise Diva I don’t like to feel girly at work or anyplace else for that matter. I am working on the loving and letting someone in part. It’s taking sometime but I’m almost there and when I’m not fighting I actually look forward to the day that I am actually able experience and give love without condition.

By SheSpeaks

November 8, 2005 11:57 AM | Link to this

…blessed for the her she left behind in you…. NoStress that was absolutely poetic. I hope you have it copywritten

Hello Divine1,WD…Tazzee where are you?

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 12:00 PM | Link to this

@AggWitt - for your 10:25am commment if you are out there - can’t address it fully but what I will say is that canned explanation for everything that most christians give is pretty much a result of lack of true understanding of that for which they say they believe in. It is that same ignorance that places the church in the position it is in today. But with that ignorance I can understand why you say what you said.

By divine1

November 8, 2005 12:04 PM | Link to this

@No Stress - You best believe my grandmother told my first husband

“You better be able to spoil her the way I have, otherwise you can just leave her with me”. Even though my first husband was an arse - he respected my grandmother a great deal. If she said something to him, he listened. When I say my grandmother was a strong woman, I am not exaggerating - when she found out my uncle was mistreating her daughter, she politely went to his house and told him she was going to give him until she finished shopping to be out of the house or he would have to face her wrath. When she returned to the house dude was GONE. Grandma was no joke when it came to her children.

By divine1

November 8, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this

What’s up Shespeaks - I thought the same thing when I read that line in NoStress’ post. Whatta man. ;)

Hey Scornednomo - Gotta love those women in our lives who helped shape us.

By Tazzee

November 8, 2005 12:11 PM | Link to this

Morning all;

Haven’t had a chance to read all the comments but I have to say I believe in both. I do have free will to make choices but certain events guide me to my destiny.

One example - when I was living in Charlotte, I had 3 offers to move to Atlanta. With the second one I told the guy I would never leave Charlotte for 3 reasons: I wanted to remain close to my grandmother, I didn’t want to leave my church, and I was seriously dating this guy - we were talking marriage. Within a matter of 3 weeks, my grandmother had a stroke, my pastor announced he was leaving the church and my guy and I broke up. Shortly thereafter I received another offer to move to Atlanta and I here I am.

So while I had a choice to make, I made the wrong choice the first 2 times.

Some will say that’s just a coincidence but I believe that it was my destiny to be here and events occurred to help me make the choice to get here.

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 12:43 PM | Link to this

Tazz, you said, “I believe that it was my destiny to be here and events occurred to help me make the choice to get here.”

“Faith without works is dead,” right? So…….if you had no clue as to your destiny/purpose, what would you have acted on? Gut? Intuition?

By divine1

November 8, 2005 12:59 PM | Link to this

What’s up 2?

By divine1

November 8, 2005 01:04 PM | Link to this

I have a prayer request. Let’s all send our prayers and blessings out to Cee and her family. A family member recently took sick and Cee has had to be the rock that’s kept them together. Please keep her and her family in your prayers.

By Longtime Lurker

November 8, 2005 01:13 PM | Link to this

Afternoon all,

Been traveling quite a bit lately, but missed y’all.

FYI…Mike Baisden’s topic today will be “Why Many Women are so hyped up to get married” Should be interesting….

Oprah tomorrow (Wednesday)Terry McMillian and believe it or not her ex will be on the the same stage. The previews were a riot!

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 01:15 PM | Link to this

‘sup, Divine

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 01:18 PM | Link to this

Afternoon, all!

Vanikia, sorry to hear about your aunt.

Diva, great topic!!!!…. you did it again, you are so deep (definitely thought provoking). I promise you are in my head again. Just had a similar conversation on Sunday and Monday with my girls based on a series of events that happened over the weekend to me. A lot of times we have something happen and we are so sure it’s our destiny or was meant to happen, but usually only when it’s good. What about when it’s bad???? was that meant to happen to??

I think we always wonder about the what ifs…….what if I had done this or what if I hadn’t done that, etc. I do believe destiny is predetermined and no matter what, you will end up on the path to whereever you are destined to be. Sure, we can make choices and like yesterday, I believe we are more conscious of what we do and don’t do even though we don’t think that we are. Life is about choices, you can choose wisely or not. Either way, despite what we choose, whatever path your life is destined to take/end up, you will eventually get there……. even if you wander off the path for a moment, something within your destiny will lead you back to the original road……I like to think of the poem by Robert Frost, the “Road Less Traveled”. Just my take on it.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 01:28 PM | Link to this

wow! what ground breaking topics Mike has! I need to tune in for sure! I know he has all the answers to that question!

(if my sarcasm isn’t coming through, let me know, and I will try again)

Heey Ivy!!

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 01:29 PM | Link to this

@shespeaks - no copyright on that one - it just comes out like that - is that work load lightening up - two days in a row I’m about to call your manager - LOL

By Longtime Lurker

November 8, 2005 01:32 PM | Link to this

Wise, we all know that you are not a MB fan. Oh, by the way, Happy Belated!!! You a Scorpio, I knew there was a reason I liked ya ;-)

By divine1

November 8, 2005 01:32 PM | Link to this

Ivy - I hope all is well with you.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this

I know LL, I need to stop trippin on him, I’m just sayin tho…da hell he gonna do but make women out to be triflin? whatever

oh and who is a scorpio?

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 01:39 PM | Link to this

Yep, it is. Check your email, I just sent you some juicy gossip. Well, I guess it isn’t gossip since it’s me. hahahahahahha! Check your email. (wink, wink)

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 01:40 PM | Link to this

Hey, Wise!!! Girl, girl, girl!!!!! Woo hoo!!!

And wait, did I miss your birthday??? I thought it was in June, exactly one month before mine. Let me check my calendar cuz I’m sorry if I did.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 01:43 PM | Link to this

Ivy Nope, you are right, its June 28, I think LL is confusing birthdays. Vann and Divine, and Cee just had birthdays LL.

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 01:48 PM | Link to this

Yep, I was trynna make it to thier party but SouthBeach was trippin’ cuz we had on jeans. I had gone to an artshow earlier and I wasn’t trynna go home and change then come all the way back. Hell, I was lookin’ too hot (tehehehehehhe)to go home anyway, so we ended up not going. We ended up going to this janky sports bar and watching the VA Tech game (but it was fun and the wings were good and drinks were free….I even got a free baby T) and then to this reggae joint.

By Scornednomo

November 8, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this

I had to call my sister to get this, but I remember when I was younger my mom had a clipping on the refrig about destiny.

“Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved.”

“It’s in your moments of decision that your destiny is shaped.”

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 02:01 PM | Link to this

Did you all go out and get Floetry’s CD? it’s hot!!!!

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 02:02 PM | Link to this

Scorned, I like that..something to think about.

Hey Shespeaks!!…(trying to catch up)

LL, you got plenty of reasons to like me, regardless of my birthday!! ha ha!

By DKATL

November 8, 2005 02:02 PM | Link to this

What up Blogmates.

I believe everything is predestined to happen, the script has already been written..

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 02:13 PM | Link to this

@Ivy - is it better than the 1st?

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 02:30 PM | Link to this

It’s just as good as the first to me, not worse nor better. I still jam to the first one. It’s in my car right now. That 1 was hot!!!!!

By divine1

November 8, 2005 02:31 PM | Link to this

@NoStress - They keep on getting better. Their live CD is awesome and I have heard cuts from the latest and ……. Can I just say I love this talented duo!!!!!

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 02:33 PM | Link to this

D, I didn’t know they had a live CD. I really enjoyed them the 2x I’ve seen them in concert. I would love to get that CD. I’ll go look for it this evening.

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 02:37 PM | Link to this

see how the rabbit hole gets deeper, “everything is predestined to happen.” if so, then the question still remains, what control do you really have?

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 02:37 PM | Link to this

@Ivy - while you are out go ahead and pick me up one - i’ll send the forwarding address - LOL

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 02:41 PM | Link to this

Ok, but I’m gonna charge you a hellacious S&H charge, which will be about 5-6x the cost of the CD. Is it worth it to ya?

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 02:42 PM | Link to this

I’m feeling this one called “Imagination”……mmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!

By SheSpeaks

November 8, 2005 02:43 PM | Link to this

@NoStress-No it isn’t. After this weekend…I’ll breathe again

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 02:46 PM | Link to this

Attention Fellas, I need you! I will be doing MEN’S WEEK where I will devote a week of topics contributed by and for men. (Of course the ladies will weigh in on the topics presented).

IF you would like to participate, please email me.

I am already tagging the regular male hitters to help me, so you can’t say no: Ignatius, Mr. 2, Str8, Daskrait, Rell, NoStress, Blue, DKATL, abc, Carrington, Big Vince, LL. (did I miss somebody?)

You guys please be on the look out for my email.

I would love to hear from any male silent readers/lurkers. Please feel free to contact me about male-centric (yea made that word up) topics: wise.diva@gmail.com

I promise not to male bash that ENTIRE week. I will listen! Honest! I will! I can do it! LOL

By divine1

November 8, 2005 02:51 PM | Link to this

@Ivy - The Live CD is HOT!!!! It includes 3 new cuts, one with a special guest I know you will like. Everytime I’ve seen them the did not disappoint, but only reaffirmed why I love them so much. I tell you I’ve been a fan of theirs since their first single dropped when everyone else was calling them a one hit wonder I was like Nah there’s more to come.

Okay I’ve got to ask has anyone else heard this bloody rumor about Laila Ali & Queen Latifah being a couple. Please say it isn’t so……

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 02:52 PM | Link to this

@Ivy - where is the love, and so close to the holidays, no good cheer, no jingle bells, no hook ups from your sistas - I mean there is just nothin left to believe in

By Scornednomo

November 8, 2005 02:52 PM | Link to this

2Can I think the paths that we select are predestined. If you drink excessively everyday, you are predestined to be an alcoholic. It not that our lives are already made out, but the ways of life have already been established, you go 75 North you end up in Tennessee. I don’t care how much you say that’s not where you wanted to go, until you run off of that road, Tennessee is your destiny. The same is true with life.

By DasKrait2

November 8, 2005 02:53 PM | Link to this

Wow, my name in BigBlackLetters. LMAO At least I am in ‘good’ company.

Topic: We make very important decisions on the regular that affect the rest of our lives and often we do not even know they are being made(the IMPORTANT decisions).

oh, Good Afternoon Everybody, here for a second.

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this

Laila is married D1 where did you hear that - her husband was her trainer

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

they got divorced NoStress.

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

@Scornednomo - dang girl I like that - I got miles of pages that say that same thing but that breakdown I’m going to steal for the book - too late I’ve already copied it LOL

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 02:57 PM | Link to this

NoStress…..Nope! (hahahahaha)

By divine1

November 8, 2005 02:57 PM | Link to this

@WD - OH LAWD! You forgot AggWit.

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 02:57 PM | Link to this

I think Laila and her husband divorced.

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 02:58 PM | Link to this

@Wise - oh well so much for that - oh and I’m not contributing no topics until you turn in your homework assignment - LOL

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 03:01 PM | Link to this

ohh ! I forgot NoStress! LOL! Alright, dang!

Divine..ohh gasp I can NOT believe I forgot my comic relief, my blog Dave Chapelle!

Adoub definitely has no choice but to agree to it! I wish he WOULD try to tell me NO!

By divine1

November 8, 2005 03:02 PM | Link to this

Okay, where is the love from the bruhs NoStress. How about you and the others fellas pitch in and send me the Floetry CD for my birthday? :)

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 03:03 PM | Link to this

wow… thanks for that email Wisey. It works.

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 03:09 PM | Link to this

ScornedNoMo……..let me put it like this and see if you get it…….Faith ends in sight!

By divine1

November 8, 2005 03:12 PM | Link to this

@WD — If he knows what I know, he betta act right. LOL.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 03:13 PM | Link to this

dang, Vann.. I was just about to tell you mail call! You welcome chica! LOL

By divine1

November 8, 2005 03:15 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Sir DASalot. ;)

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 03:20 PM | Link to this

Dang, everyone’s getting divorced. It seems it’s just so easy, which isn’t always a bad thing but dang. Laila and her hubby, Gabrielle Union and her hubby, Babyface and his wife. Who’s next?

By DasKrait2

November 8, 2005 03:21 PM | Link to this

Guess that will not work, just search on the two names, it(my post) replaced the underscore with something that made it italicized.

But Ali’s daughter has some bigguns, I just learned. LOL

And she boxes? ouch.

By Scornednomo

November 8, 2005 03:24 PM | Link to this

2Can “Faith ends in sight” please explain. Maybe we are saying the same thing.

As far as I know faith is belief. I don’t care how much I believe something to be, unless I take the road that leads me to it, I will never find or see it.

By divine1

November 8, 2005 03:31 PM | Link to this

Gabrielle Union & her hubby split???? When did this occur? I truly thought they were in it for the long haul.

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 03:34 PM | Link to this

man I hate to see what will happen if they get p** at one another - Queen is a big girl but Laila got a mean over hand right - stick and move Laila stick and move

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 03:34 PM | Link to this

Nope Divine, nobody wants the “long haul” anymore

By Scornednomo

November 8, 2005 03:37 PM | Link to this

Divorce is so prevalent these days because it’s the EASY way out. It has become a fad among the celebs.

By Ivy

November 8, 2005 03:37 PM | Link to this

It was pretty recent. It was on the AJC I think last week sometime. They had only been married for 4yrs or so.

By NoStress

November 8, 2005 03:37 PM | Link to this

@D1 - shorty for that post today about your Grand I may just go out and buy it for you and I won’t charge no hellaous shippin and handlin - see that IVY thats love shorty that’s love - LOL

By divine1

November 8, 2005 03:39 PM | Link to this

@VAN - Garsh, it’s sad but true. Well let’s just say no one in the limelight wants it for the long haul, there some who aren’t who are making out just fine. ;) I’ve got to say after working with GOODGARSHALMIGHTYFINE Morris Chestnut, it would be hard for me to think about my husband in the same light. MMMMMMMMMMMM Chestnuts MMMMMMMMMMM

By divine1

November 8, 2005 03:44 PM | Link to this

@NoStress - Thank you - you know there is nothing like a Grandma’s love. I was just joking about you getting the CD. LOL That’s a very sweet gesture, but I am on the mission to get that CD today. Gotta have some Floetry in my life before the day is over. I will be floating home. But what you can give me for the B-Day is some of your poetry. ;)

By 2 can play that game

November 8, 2005 03:46 PM | Link to this

lemme see if I can break this down….faith is like being in the dark; “Belief,” as you stated, is the underlying premise of faith, and once you stop believing, and look for proof, and evidence, then faith flies out the window…there is no need for tangibles, or, as you put it, the “road that leads [you] to it.” You can’t say you have faith, in one breath, and the need for a roadmap in the other…..

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 03:47 PM | Link to this

mmmmm…. don’t even let me started on him… sexy lips…. haha. Seriously tho’ Morris is fine but I’m sure his fineness wouldn’t be able to compete with the luv I have for my husband (where ever he is), but since I don’t have a hubby yet I can sit over here and gush and drool.

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 03:49 PM | Link to this

Amen 2

By Scornednomo

November 8, 2005 03:50 PM | Link to this

Van You can’t help but consider people like Samuel L. Jackson, Densel Washington, Mel Gibson who have 20 plus years with their present spouse. And I refuse to believe that these guys didn’t have to endure a lot of the same situations and hardships that these present days celebs run so quickly from.

By divine1

November 8, 2005 03:51 PM | Link to this

@VAN - Good girl, gotta love my fellow Scorp Sista. Don’t talk about those lips - everytime I watch the best man I pause the scene when he walks into the club and just stands there. I won’t tell you why, but I will tell you - Use your Scorp senses to figure it out. What I could do to that man.

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 03:56 PM | Link to this

SNM- you are right…. it’s funny there are so many hollywood divorces going on that I failed to remember the couples that have lasted that long.

By Scornednomo

November 8, 2005 03:57 PM | Link to this

you don’t stop believing and look for proof. you act on your faith. faith IS action. what i believe…that i do.

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 04:00 PM | Link to this

Ok Divine I have 1 hr of work left and all this thinking about Morris is making it hard for me…. that’s my favorite part of the movie too you’re making me want to go home and watch that.

By divine1

November 8, 2005 04:08 PM | Link to this

@VAN - Sorry.

By divine1

November 8, 2005 04:08 PM | Link to this

@Van - …… but you gotta admit that is the best part of the movie. LOL

By Scornednomo

November 8, 2005 04:16 PM | Link to this

I am outta here. Will read ya’ll on Thursday. Lil 10 is having a CT Scan tomorrow. He had 2 seizures this weekend and doctors can’t determine yet what caused them.

Everyone have a safe trip home.

By VANikia

November 8, 2005 04:19 PM | Link to this

Our prayers are with you and your family Scorned.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 04:19 PM | Link to this

Wow, poor thing. Have a good evening Scorned. Take care of the precious baby.

By Shakira

November 8, 2005 04:24 PM | Link to this

I have not had a chance to read all the comments today, nor do I get the chance to post here often, BUT whenever I do come over… I enjoy your posts… Good Job you are doing Lady Wise Diva.

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 04:26 PM | Link to this

Why thankya Shakira!! (smile)

By Psycho Belle

November 8, 2005 04:29 PM | Link to this

Afternoon, friends! I haven’t had a chance to read many of the posts yet, but this is such a great topic (way to go, WD!) that I wanted to do my post now before I run out of time.

I think nearly every major choice I’ve made in my life and every important relationship I’ve had have been “hinges” - but this is especially true of the relationship I have now with my honey. If I had not met him, and if we had not gotten together as a couple, then I probably would never have had children and a family, and my life would be radically different today. I was just telling my daughter last night that a lot of people say that their college years were their best years, but for me it’s different. My best years so far have been the years since I met Mr. Psycho.

I’m fatalistic in the sense that I think fate - or God or chance or whatever one wants to call it - gives me particular options. However, in another sense I’m not fatalistic, because I firmly believe that I always have the power to choose and that my choices are not predetermined. Looking back on my life and all the choices I’ve made that could have caused my life to be so different today, I’m glad that many times I went with my gut and bucked what most other people were telling me I should do (or not do).

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 04:36 PM | Link to this

Hey PB - thanks!

Can you imagine your life without those beautiful kids? I bet you are glad you followed your heart!

By aggressively witty

November 8, 2005 04:44 PM | Link to this

i sure wont say no, well unless its the question about that back hair making you look sexy, then its a resounding no.

at any rate i got a feeling that the male topic week is gonna be fu uhn knee

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 04:48 PM | Link to this

oh goodness, don’t make me regret this idea dude!

By Ignatius

November 8, 2005 04:53 PM | Link to this

WD - My initial thought for a topic concerns two fiesty Panther cheerleaders. Give me a day or two and I think I may come up with something better.

D1 XOX from earlier in the day. It’s been busy!

By Wise Diva

November 8, 2005 04:54 PM | Link to this

LOL @ Ignatius..you naughty boy. Behave please. ha ha

 

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