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View from the Cop: Honey, I got this

One advantage of reading police reports every morning is you get a good look at how the world turns—which can sometimes turn a bit towards the warped-out side.

I’ve noticed the following lately: Young men 21-25 are getting beat up—no, whupped in the bars, more and more for reasons that are best described as less than important. In just about all cases, the whuppin’ involves a woman.

Well anyway, that’s not really news and certainly not new news—in fact, like many of us I’ve been there.

Here’s the deal. A guy’s having an evening with his girl, in a drinking establishment sometime around 1 a.m. Just like the B-movies, some big ol’ guy with 75-inch arms and a brain the size of a microbe - a microbe fueled by alcohol no less - inserts himself into their conversation. She gets aggravated and well, her guy was ready to go anyway so he took the high road and gave a little tug on her arm as if to say “Let’s go—now!”

The big ol’ 75-inch armed guy was drunk enough to be on a five-second delay, similar to when Ted Koppel talks to a correspondent who is embedded in a rock in northern Afghanistan. He just sort of looks confused for a few seconds and then says something really clever—to him—such as “Oh yeah, so what am I?”

Now the boyfriend isn’t all that drunk and wants to just ease on out, probably because he’s been in this situation before. He sees the light at the end of the tunnel until she says something really, really stupid: “You need to Man Up!”

What??!!

If you’re not familiar with Man Up, it’s one of several new hip buzz words put into play over the last couple of years. Man Up! Is meant to imply to be like a man, do what a man would do, do the right thing. Geeze—the only thing missing is the Old Spice tune. In this guy’s case, the challenge to Man Up was witnessed by too many people.

Result: Wasn’t pretty.

In short, it’s no fair. Man Up? How dare you imply my Man Up status is anywhere but up! Don’t get me wrong, I’d Man Up for my wife but I’m under a contractual agreement and besides, she’s SWAT certified so in essence, I could Woman Up right back. Still, for the most part, I think guys need to take a little look at their social lives and get some perspective. Take this little quiz:

How many times a month do you Man Up? If you man up over three times a month and it involves a woman, you need to get rid of that woman faster than Barack Obama dumped the Reverend Jeremiah Wright because you are in what they called a dysfunctional relationship. How can you tell?

Look in the mirror. See where your teeth used to be? In police work, we call that a CLUE DUDE!!

Here’s a hint: You need to start going to bed when the clock says P.M. instead of A.M.

Boys, ya’ll are getting beat up a lot more since “Man Up” was first introduced. Think about this: If you’re going to Man Up for a woman, are you sure she’s the one? Is she going to be there for you when you’re eating from a feeding tube for the next thirty years? You need to know this before Manning Up! Look in the mirror. If you like the way you look?

Think about this: Do you want to look like Joe Palooka after Manning Up? (Okay, you younger guys go ahead and Google “Joe Palooka” so we’ll all be on the same page.) I’m not saying anything specific here but maybe—well maybe perhaps she’s not the one for you after all. Plenty of fish in the sea boys. I’m just saying think about it while your nose still points outward.

Ladies, stop abusing the term “Man Up!” It’s one thing to say it to some dead-beat dad or to members of your favorite boy-band but you need to leave that phrase in the car when there’s alcohol and steroids in the same room. Ya’ll forget how easy it is for us to get beat up! No fair!

It is depressing to see all these guys having to face “Man Up” challenges and come away with a face that could land the starring role in “Elephant Man—The Sequel.”

Take it easy on us. Let’s get nostalgic and roll it back a bit and go with some oldies but goodies like “Chill Out!” I’m picturing a Corona and a lime and no blood. Good times Ya’ll.

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By Post Haste

August 8, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Very clever, Officer Rose, mentioning Corona and lime this close to miller time. Is my watch slow?

My wife asked me to fight for her once in a bar against a drunk who dissed her. But she made me take a dive that night. I coulda taken him. I coulda manned up. Instead I got a one way ticket to Palookaville. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am let’s face it. She didn’t look out for me. I coulda taken that guy apart. I coulda. I coulda. So I went down after only two broken bottles over the head and a couple of rabbit punches. My wife made me take the fall. It wasn’t right. I coulda been somebody.

By kia

August 8, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

My mama taught me that any fool can throw a punch. It takes a real man to KNOW when to walk away. Let’s put that out on the street.

By Skooch

August 8, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Steve, love your column, but as a Yankee from Chicago, so I should know ;-), you spelled y’all wrong. The apostrophe takes the place of the missing letters, as in the “ou”. Thanks and happy learning!

By kia

August 8, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

My mama taught me that any fool can throw a punch. It takes a real man to KNOW when to walk away. Let’s put that out on the street.

By kia

August 8, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Skooch is right. It is Y’ALL. I hate to side with a Yankee though. Maybe I should go wash my hands or something.

By Skooch

August 8, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Kia, thanks? Oh, by the way, the war is over ~ ~ ~

By Cynic

August 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

A wise man once said, “A gentleman walks, but never runs.”

By Lynda Funderburke

August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Love your column Steve. Need more of them really. Why should have to tell OUR guys to ” Man Up ” at all? They should already be a man around his girl. If he isnt a man then he can hit the road to start with. Come on Ladies, the guys have to work on there ” Man ” time……

By apsdecatur

August 8, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Truth is, most fights I’ve seen “over a woman,” the woman was begging and pleading with her boyfriend to STOP fighting. These fights are usually fueled by the man’s sense that his territory/property (the woman) is being encroached upon; saying the fights are “over a woman” is just an excuse.

And, to play devil’s advocate for a second, let’s say the woman DID demand her man to “Man Up,” or whatever. Does that excuse him for being the dumb*ss who got into a physical altercation with a man twice his size?

You have to ask: does this guy in the story blame everyone else for the sh** he gets himself into, or just the women in his life?

It’s time for men to be held accountable for their violence and stop blaming everyone else, especially women.

By apsdecatur

August 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Truth is, most fights I’ve seen “over a woman,” the woman was begging and pleading with her boyfriend to STOP fighting. These fights are usually fueled by the man’s sense that his territory/property (the woman) is being encroached upon; saying the fights are “over a woman” is just an excuse.

And, to play devil’s advocate for a second, let’s say the woman DID demand her man to “Man Up,” or whatever. Does that excuse him for being the dumb*ss who got into a physical altercation with a man twice his size?

You have to ask: does this guy in the story blame everyone else for the sh** he gets himself into, or just the women in his life?

It’s time for men to be held accountable for their violence and stop blaming everyone else, especially women.

By apsdecatur

August 8, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Truth is, most fights I’ve seen “over a woman,” the woman was begging and pleading with her boyfriend to STOP fighting. These fights are usually fueled by the man’s sense that his territory/property (the woman) is being encroached upon; saying the fights are “over a woman” is just an excuse.

And, to play devil’s advocate for a second, let’s say the woman DID demand her man to “Man Up,” or whatever. Does that excuse him for being the dumb*ss who got into a physical altercation with a man twice his size?

You have to ask: does this guy in the story blame everyone else for the sh** he gets himself into, or just the women in his life?

It’s time for men to be held accountable for their violence and stop blaming everyone else, especially women.

By t-man

August 8, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

APS…

it’s time for men to be held accountable for their violence and stop blaming everyone else, especially women.

Don’t make me come through my modem….You’d better “Man Up”!

By BiteMe

August 8, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

I am only assuming that these “man up” woman are in their 20’s, and probably pretty and knows it, thus needing constant attention to prove it. NO self respecting 30 or 40-something year old woman would publicly humiliate her boyfriend or husband by telling him to “man up”.

You men sure know how to pick the good ones out there, don’t ya.

By Dixie

August 8, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

As a bartender all over Atlanta for 8 years I saw many, many “men” say “I won” as blood gushed down thier faces. I saw one of my customers stabbed to death for defending the “honor” of a well known w*******. More than once innocent bystanders were hurt as well. . There’s no such thing as a winner in a fight. Unless it’s a battle of wits.

Fight Club is a great movie because of the mental struggle. Not because of the teeth that get dropped down the drain.

Women, this goes for you too !

Ten years from now y’all be looking at those scars and missing teeth. Will you be saying “I’m so happy that I was in that fight.”? And “what happened to that witch that got me into it?”

By Dixie

August 8, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

w* means buy her a margarita, get a bj

By ron

August 8, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

It’s a sad set of feet that will let a body hang around and take a beating.I am, thus far,the champion at getting away -fast.I have never manned up for any woman.I am a happy,craven coward.

By John

August 8, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

Back when I weighed 135 lbs I hung out with girls that did stuff like that. On more than one occasion I can remember hearing one of my drunken girlfriends saying “I’m going to get my boyfriend to beat you up.” to guys the size of Goldberg.

By jabster

August 8, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

It’s time for men to be held accountable for their violence and stop blaming everyone else, especially women.

Don’t be such a man-hater, aps.

Not to say you don’t have a point—as Jimmy Buffett said, “some people claim there’s a woman to blame but I know it’s my own damn fault”—the fundamental error was in picking one’s choice of companion, not confronting someone who perhaps shouldn’t have been confronted (and in the grand scheme of things doesn’t matter).

Let’s quit sounding like a feminazi and treating “male violence” as some kind of freestanding monolith to be reckoned with.

And when you egg someone on to commit a harassing, abusive, or violent act—yes, you ARE an accomplice and not a victim.

By KJ

August 8, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

w means buy her a margarita, get a bj

name of bar, plz.

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this

To KJ . . Don’t know if it’s still there. It was the 5th Quarter Pub on Fulton Industrial in the early 80’s. I doubt she’s still alive even though she was just about 23 at the time. She tanned alot and bleached the living daylights out of her hair. By now she’s likely bald and has skin that looks like a Louis Vuitton bag. But who knows,if you have 4-5 drinks first and close your eyes ?!?

By Daytunaguy

August 9, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Your comment will appear after it has been approved……..There will be a delay of up to 5 minutes before your comment appears. People please read and act accordingly,don’t post the same crap 3 times in a row!

By Daytunaguy

August 9, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Your comment will appear after it has been approved……..There will be a delay of up to 5 minutes before your comment appears. People please read and act accordingly,don’t post the same crap 3 times in a row!

By Daytunaguy

August 9, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Your comment will appear after it has been approved……..There will be a delay of up to 5 minutes before your comment appears. People please read and act accordingly,don’t post the same crap 3 times in a row!

By ZigZagGal

August 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Sorry Daytuna … . I couldn’t help having a little fun.

By Daytunaguy

August 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Very funny!!!

By Tailgunner

August 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Is there any other reason to allow me to use my Concealed Weapons Permit in a bar? Some S.O.B. twice my size wants to rearrange my face for absolutely no reason other than he’s too drunk to know what planet he is on - so I’m supposed to either run away like the French Army or take a couple of shots from this Neanderthal and pretend I don’t care?

Oh, I’ll take it outside, all right - right after I retrieve my .357 Magnum from under the seat…

By Tom

August 9, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

“Man up”? Dudes, no need to “man up”…..just sucker-punch like Michael Lemon…

Don’t let da’ punk see it comin’, yo!

*

By Tailgunner

August 9, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

By Post Haste

My wife asked me to fight for her once in a bar against a drunk who dissed her. But she made me take a dive that night. I coulda taken him. I coulda manned up. Instead I got a one way ticket to Palookaville. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am let’s face it. She didn’t look out for me. I coulda taken that guy apart. I coulda. I coulda. So I went down after only two broken bottles over the head and a couple of rabbit punches. My wife made me take the fall. It wasn’t right. I coulda been somebody.

You got the snot beat outa you ‘cause your ol’ lady asked you to? Time for a new ol’ lady! Yeah - you coulda been somebody - a candidate for the Darwin Awards!

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

So Tailgunner,

You think that guy twice you size can’t take your .357 away from you? If he’s too drunk to know what planet he’s on and mad enough to want to rearrange your face then he’s not going to feel the first 2 shots anyway.

OR, assuming you’ve been drinking while you’re at that bar and you’re far enough away that he can’t reach the gun, you’ll likely hit some innocent bystander too. (people being shot at don’t tend to stand still and wait to be hit)

I belive we have the right to defend ourselves. And guns are warranted if more intelligent means have been exhausted. I support permitted concealed weapons but not in a bar. Out of the thousands of customers I served, not one of them became smarter as they drank.

By David C

August 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Any woman who tells her Man to “Man Up” against someone isn’t worth having.

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

THANK YOU DAVID !

By Tailgunner

August 9, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

By Dixie

*So Tailgunner

You think that guy twice you size can’t take your .357 away from you? If he’s too drunk to know what planet he’s on and mad enough to want to rearrange your face then he’s not going to feel the first 2 shots anyway.

Dixie - the last time I had too much to drink was in 1972. If some Neanderthal wants to “man up” (or is that “macho up”?) on me - no - he will not take my gun from me. And as far as him not feeling the first 2 shots? Doesn’t matter - I use a heavy enough load that’ll put him on his back with the first shot, even if he is jogging toward me.

And what makes people always so sure that “some innocent bystander” is always going to get hit? I can hit a moving target at 30 yards from the hip. And who says I’m even going to fire unless I am forced to? A concealed weapon is a more intelligent means of self defense.

What if we punch each other and fall onto someone and injure them? What if I duck his fist and he clobbers the person standing behind me and breaks their jaw or neck? What it, what if, what if! I don’t always suspect the worst case scenario - but always expecting the best case scenario is even more idiotic. Talk it out? Have a “time out”? Try and dial 911 on my cell phone while some Bozo stomps on my head - and then try to stay alive for the 10 minutes until the cops show up?

You wanna do that - go for it. “THE GUY WAS DRUNK AND DIDN’T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING” will look really classy on your tombstone or inscribed on the back of your wheelchair…

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

You’ve totally missed the point.

Thinking things through before the situation arises will keep you from getting to that level.

People don’t JUST GET MAD at you for no reason. Tyrannical, pugnacious remarks from both parties are the most common beginnings. Judging from the comments you’ve made, you’re well in tune with said remarks.

I will be cremated but if I had a tombstone it would likely read “The hardest part about having common sense is dealing with those who don’t”

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Time to go. I need to sign off on a blog in AZ, start the biscuits and get the ribs out of the slow cooker.

By Tailgunner

August 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

By Dixie

You’ve totally missed the point.

No - no point missed on my end, Thinking things through at times works - but in order for it to be effective both parties have to be thinking things through.

You said it yourself: “The hardest part about having common sense is dealing with those who don’t”

And - if the other person has no common sense or is unwilling to “think things through” then what? Accept a beating and comfort myself with having taken some ubiquitous and undefinable high ground?

No thanks…

By Stone

August 9, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Shooting someone who is kicking your a* with his fists is a felony that will get you thrown into jail where you’ll get your a* kicked on a regular basis.(or worse) It sounds like some people want to shoot first and think later. Know the law. It would be a shame to lose everything you have worked for because you overreacted and shot someone in a bar fight because you were afraid of getting your a* kicked. That would be sad and unfortunate for both of y’all.

By Post Haste

August 9, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

My wife asked me to fight for her once in a bar against a drunk who dissed her. But she insisted that I take a dive that night. I coulda taken him. I coulda manned up. Instead I got a one way ticket to Palookaville. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am let’s face it. She didn’t look out for me. She made me take falls I didn’t have to take. I coulda taken that guy apart. I coulda. I coulda. So I went down after only two broken bottles over the head and a couple of rabbit punches. My wife made me take the fall. It wasn’t right. I coulda been somebody.

I coulda….

By Tailgunner

August 9, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

By Stone

Shooting someone who is kicking your a with his fists is a felony that will get you thrown into jail …*

Stone, you had better visit the law library. Ever heard of the Castle Doctrine? Ever heard of self defense? You must be reading the law books from Washington DC. Spend a couple of bucks and get some new ones that have been updated since 1980 before you go spreading false information and claiming it to be fact.

It is not a felony to defend yourself by whatever reasonable means you deem appropriate, you are under no obligation to try and run away, call 911 (a.k.a. government sponsored dial-a-prayer) lock yourself in a closet, or any other stupidity. Learn the law before you pontificate on it - you are leading people astray with your uninformed gibberish!

By Stone

August 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

What a joke! Check the law before you shoot someone because you’re afraid of getting your a* kicked tailhumper or suffer the consequences. Go ahead ruin your life and someone else’s. No way are you allowed to pull out a firearm and shoot someone who punches you in the face because you deem it appropriate. I thought you were misinformed, now I’m beginning to think you are a fool, an armed fool and that makes you a danger to everyone.

By Dave

August 9, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

I Man Up and make sure my wife is home safe and sound by around 9 PM. Nothing good ever happens after midnight …

By Tailgunner

August 9, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

By Stone

What a joke! Check the law before you shoot someone because you’re afraid of getting your a kicked tailhumper or suffer the consequences. Go ahead ruin your life and someone else’s*

And your law degree is from which prestigious university? Harvard? Yale? Read the law. Google it. You are dead wrong, and the more you open your mouth the more you confirm it, Stoned.

Google “GEORGIA CASTLE DOCTRINE” and you just might get a little bit of education. It essentially says that if I fear for my life, my personal safety or the lives and personal safety of people I am with, I can use whatever force I deem necessary, including deadly force, to defend not only people, but property as well.

I do not have to “get my a_ kicked” to enable myself to defend myself. You don’t want to get shot? Don’t try and kick someone’s a. But it will be a cold day in H before I cower in a corner and let someone “ruin my life” or the life of someone I care for. You want to be a milk-toast coward and let someone beat you senseless, maybe put you in a wheelchair or a body bag? Go right ahead. Your choice, and you are free to make that choice. You are not now, never have been, and never will be free to make that choice for anyone else.

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

STONE ! ! !

I was just thinking about you and ElBubba during supper.

I always enjoy reading whatchy’all have to say.

By EZ2C

August 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

This is the type of guy that is going to one day blow away a father in front of his kids in a parking lot because he cut him off in traffic. He’ll claim that he feared for his life, he’ll cry about the Georgia castle doctrine as they are carrying him off to jail. Leave him alone Stoner he’s a whack job!

By Stone

August 9, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Dixie, haven’t heard from ElBubba in awhile or Cassie or Cindy. Hope they are doing OK. Thanks for the kind words. B blessed.

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

It has been awhile. I wonder what’s up? Hope they’re OK too.

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

What always amazed me was that these bruiser bouncers would never break up fights between girls. They said guys were easy to break up but girls fight dirty. I always had to come out from behind the bar to stop them.

Girls always at some point get face to face and grab each other’s hair. I’d put my hands behind thier heads, grab a bunch of hair and knock thier heads together. Then pull them apart and down to the floor while they were still stunned. Worked every time. THEN the big tough bouncers would escort them out.

By tasertime

August 9, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

How about just tasing them, that’ll put ‘em down but not fatally.

By Dixie

August 9, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Tasers come with bragging rights. Nobody brags about getting thier heads knocked together. And it’s more cost effective.

By Tailgunner

August 10, 2008 12:27 AM | Link to this

By EZ2C

This is the type of guy that is going to one day blow away a father in front of his kids in a parking lot because he cut him off in traffic. He’ll claim that he feared for his life, he’ll cry about the Georgia castle doctrine as they are carrying him off to jail. Leave him alone Stoner he’s a whack job!

Someone cutting me off in a parking lot does not even come close to being attacked. Now if the man is enough of a whack job to get irate over the fact I just honked at him and bail out of his vehicle to jerk me out of the car and try and feed me my teeth - that would be an attack. You get the difference here? No - you probably don’t, because you’re convinced anyone who carries a weapon for protection is some deranged cowboy just looking for a reason - any reason - to turn someone into swiss cheese. Well here’s a flash for you - nothing could be further from the truth - and year in and year out the statistics nationally prove without a doubt that people with concealed weapons permits are the safest citizens to be around.

Go ahead - look it up - but I doubt you will. You would never want to confuse your paranoid opinion with something as trivial as facts.

By Dr. Craig Spinks

August 10, 2008 2:06 AM | Link to this

Responsible and wizened GA males do not waste their energies “manning-up” in bars at odd hours to impress “ladies” whom they found or brought there. Rather, GA men- of all races, religions and SESes- “man-up” in their homes, in their neighborhoods and in their children’s schools to “beat-down” the negative influences which threaten to destroy all three.

By EZ2C

August 10, 2008 6:30 AM | Link to this

Wrong! I’m all for concealed weapons in the hands of responsible people, but you just come across as someone just itching to shoot someone for even the slightest provocation and seem so scared of getting your butt whipped that you are a hazard to society. Fight with your fists sissy and if you lose the fight at least you keep your freedom. I’m done with your weak a*.

By ron

August 10, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Did I mention that I take my concealed weapon with me when I run away?That thing is only to be used in case of imminent capture..Ruger Blackhawk chambered in .45 long Colt,housing a 240 grain Sierra jacketed hollow cavity stoked by 19 grains of Blue Dot.If by chance the gun stays together the target it hits will be hurt bad.Either you’re dead or he is.Seems fair to me.

By Dixie

August 10, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

I tell my children to make every effort to curb thier cussing in thier free time because the more comfortable they are with cussing, the more likely it will come out at the wrong time (In front of a teacher).

The same holds true for these guys who spend a great deal of time fantasizing and preparing for these “coming” fist/gun fights. If an opportunity that remotely resembles thier dreams comes about, they will (pardon the pun) jump the gun and escalate the situation (with those tyrannical and pugnaciuos remarks)because they have become too comfortable/anxious with the idea.

Clearly, one of the objectives of Lt. Steve’s article is spend your time/energy trying to avoid the premediation and subsequently the fight.

By Poste Haste

August 10, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Yeah, that’s right, Tailfondler, cause of my wife, I got a one way ticket to Palookaville.

Dont any of you morons keep up with popular culture? This is how they trap al queda sleeper cells, who are bored and post online on blogs like this one. Tailprober didn’t know the “On the Waterfront” reference, which proves he’s a low down, dirty, lyin, yellah piece of al queda sleeper cell trash.

By Dixie

August 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Arachibutyrophobia is the fear of getting peanut butter stuck to the roof of your mouth

By EZ2C

August 10, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

Hey Post Haste aka- OZ,Nice2fool, fruitless objections, ty cobb, harry willis, truth march, analchord, cop talk, what we are dealing with here is a loser, a non contender, stuck in time 30 to 40 years past quoting movie lines no one but he cares about. Your posts are stale, unoriginal and foolish. It’s no wonder you don’t stick to one name. Wish tailgunner would blow your a* away so we could be rid of you both.

By Harris

August 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Looks like OZ,posthaste,tycobb,truth march,coptalk is a troll camping out on this blog hiding behing multible names.

By Harris

August 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Looks like OZ,posthaste,tycobb,truth march,coptalk is a troll camping out on this blog hiding behing multible names.

By Vegas Ellis

August 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH STORY …

Had to share this with you, Steve. My house is about 700 feet from the road in Stockbridge.

Just so happens, some thefts have been happening at a neighbor’s house across a big old field from my house. Another neighbor’s son noticed a suspicious couple of dudes in a truck coming down my driveway with lights off about 2 a.m. Saturday and got in his truck to come investigate.

Eventually, he discovered that they had parked the truck in the middle of that big field, and the guys were apparently SOMEWHERE doing SOMETHING bad.

Meantime, I just happened to be up. And when I saw headlights coming down my driveway and a guy running from the field, I called 911 because I figured it must be the thieves.

It all boils down to, between my neighbors and me and the Henry County cops, we got two copper thieves off the streets. (When the cops finally got a hold of the guys, they found that they’d already bagged up about $3,000 worth of copper.)

Good Guys - 1; Thugs - 0 … this time.

By Dixie

August 10, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Well Done !

By Cops are pigs

August 10, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

To the elderly lesbian Holly Springs cop that was “working” Sunday afternoon, I sincerely hope you die of a slow, painful, cancerous death.

By Colonel John

August 10, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

It’s not wise to bring a knife to a gun fight.

By reader

August 10, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this

Back in their heyday, my husband’s brother was the guy who wanted to exercise his over-developed beer muscles…and who had Budweiser eyes, on the rare occasion that his then-girlfriend was absent. During a recent visit “home”, we met up with a group of old friends. It was like taking a trip back in time. The more things change, the more they remain the same. We were all having a good time, had stayed almost long enough to actually close the bar, when you could see the transformation take place in my brother-in-law. Suddenly, my husband had that “uh-oh-let’s-wrap-it-up” look in his eye. Had not seen that look in almost 20 years. All trouble was averted, but the really funny part of it all was at the very end of the night (morning), when we watched them pull away, the tough-guy brother and his wife, she at the wheel of their minivan. Then we got into ours.

By ron

August 11, 2008 3:36 AM | Link to this

Colonel John, It’s not wise to be at a gun fight.

By gadyke

August 11, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Cops are pigs: What law were you breaking that you’re so mad you got caught?

By Jimbo I

August 11, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

The closest I’ve come to a bar fight was some kid at Taco Mac in Alpharetta on a caffeine buzz from his sweet tea coming over to my table to tell me and a buddy to stop talking about him and his gaggle of underage friends at another table. There were about seven of them and it would’ve been an interesting go, seven rich kids versus me and a polish sociopath. The best part is that we didn’t even know those kids were there, we were talking about their waitress. You can bet after he came over that we were talking about them though.

By Jimbo I

August 11, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

The closest I’ve come to a bar fight was some kid at Taco Mac in Alpharetta on a caffeine buzz from his sweet tea coming over to my table to tell me and a buddy to stop talking about him and his gaggle of underage friends at another table. There were about seven of them and it would’ve been an interesting go, seven rich kids versus me and a polish sociopath. The best part is that we didn’t even know those kids were there, we were talking about their waitress. You can bet after he came over that we were talking about them though.

By Jimbo I

August 11, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Dear Cox communications:

Teenagers running websites on their DSL hosting account have figures out how to do reliable commenting and blogging for far more traffic Steve is seeing.. what the hell is wrong with you people?

(Sorry Lt. Steve, I know it’s offtopic but you’d think a major company could figure out blogs.)

By Pedro

August 11, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Tailgunner, folks like you kind of scare me. I have a carry permit, but I’d never even think about popping somebody unless I truly feared for my life. Fearing I might get thumped isn’t enough for me to whack a drunk. You need to chill out a bit and until you do, stop tempting yourself with thoughts of gunpowder heroism by leaving your piece at home. If you do leave it in your car, then it is as easy or easier to drive away than to return or hang around waiting for your opportunity to open fire. You might also want to keep in mind that the drunken colossus may have some friends thinking the same thing as you and then a real gunfight erupts. High Noon becomes the OK Corral, and then innocents and idiots alike are in the crossfire. For the sake of us that respect our right to carry, please don’t spout off like a junior high schooler about how you’d waste somebody. It makes all of us 2nd amendment protectors sound like fanatics and morons.

By Poste Haste

August 11, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Corporal Duhng, see you over at Wooten’s. Bring it on. See you in court, fool.

By CLUELESS

August 11, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

WHO IS CORPORAL DUHUNG HOSTE PASTE?

By Stone

August 11, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Is it true OZ/post haste? Have you been posting under all these names? Why?

By r brock

August 11, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

A person is justified in using reasonable physical force on another person to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of physical force. The defender may use the degree of force he reasonably believes is necessary to defend himself or a third person. But deadly physical force cannot be used unless the actor reasonably believes that the attacker is using or about to use deadly physical force or inflicting or about to inflict great bodily harm.

Additionally, a person is not justified in using deadly physical force if he knows he can avoid doing so with complete safety by:

  • retreating, except from his home or office in cases where he was not the initial aggressor or except in cases where he a peace officer, special policeman, or a private individual assisting a peace officer or special policeman at the officer’s directions regarding an arrest or preventing an escape;

  • surrendering possession to property the aggressor claims to own; or

  • obeying a demand that he not take an action he is not otherwise required to take.

  • If you can avoid a situation, then do it….But if can’t, use of deadly force is not always need. According to escalation of force…use the force that is only needed to quell a situation. If you use lethal force that is not needed….you’ll wind up being a girlfriend to a guy named Butch in prison.

    By r brock

    August 11, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

    Common sense is the better part of discretion. In other words….common sense trumps all firepower. God gave a brain, lets use it.

    By r brock

    August 11, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

    Common sense is the better part of discretion. In other words….common sense trumps all firepower. God gave us a brain, lets use it.

    By Jimbo I

    August 12, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

    I think the requirement to retreat has been eliminated by 06 SB396/AP. Not only in the house but in defense of self or third parties.

    Still, regardless of the law I agree with you. The best fight is the one you don’t have.

    By Jimbo I

    August 12, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

    I think the requirement to retreat has been eliminated by 06 SB396/AP. Not only in the house but in defense of self or third parties.

    Still, regardless of the law I agree with you. The best fight is the one you don’t have.

    By Jimbo I

    August 12, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

    I think the requirement to retreat has been eliminated by 06 SB396/AP. Not only in the house but in defense of self or third parties.

    Still, regardless of the law I agree with you. The best fight is the one you don’t have.

    By Comunist police state

    August 13, 2008 3:36 AM | Link to this

    Too bad for Isaac Hayes. Why couldn’t that stroke have gone to a cop?

    By Stone

    August 13, 2008 6:58 AM | Link to this

    Communist has two m’s, guinness. Too bad for us that you’re jaded and uneducated.

    By Tony

    August 13, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

    Hey communist, why don’t you go stand on the edge of a ledge that overlooks a 100 ft drop. Bend over, put your head up your a$$ and then jump. Better yet, how about the stroke happening to you or a member of your family instead of someone that puts themselves out there everyday protecting losers like you.

    By Filster

    August 13, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

    Yo Tailgunner and Dixie: This heah’s Gee-aww-gaaa. “Ya honor, he done needed killin’” IS a legal excuse…..

    By ZigZagger

    August 14, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

    Go ahead Filster, you idiot. Use that one. The sooner we get you behind bars or 6 feet under, the better.

    By The Truth

    August 15, 2008 12:58 AM | Link to this

    Im with Tailgunner… im a really level headed chill guy, but if someone comes after me i will put a f*** bullet in his head! Better know who your f*** with before you mess with someone in a bar.

    By Poste Haste

    August 15, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

    Venus in Beijing: Ode to Nastia

    Oh, she slipped the surly bonds of earth, and flung her eager task through footless falls of air. She beamed on a lark, and did a hundred things we’ve never dreamed. She wheeled in silent grasps, Arched and alone, she dangled rings amidst the tumbling mirth, and, with delerious pace, struck the uneven chords of freedom’s vaulted grace.

    By Tared and feathered

    August 15, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

    Wrong blog postal haste, you’re obviously looking for woman to woman. What a whimp!

    By Fred

    August 19, 2008 1:04 AM | Link to this

    Skooch? As a yankee you have NO clue on how to spell the SOUTHERN word ya’ll. But as a yankee, you will claim your stupid a* is right because that’s how you do it up north………..

    Go home and leave us alone. We ain’t moving there and telling YOU how to do things, YOU moved here for a reason, that reason is because you screwed it up there and now want to screw it up here. Bite me.

    By Andrea

    September 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

    so much rambling… so little substance.

    By Michael

    September 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

    I just need the addresses of these Man Up bars so I can file some premises liability cases. Insurance information please … ?

    By JW

    September 13, 2008 5:30 AM | Link to this

    Wise very wise, In the fire department we use the term “Cowboy Up” but we would never let it get someone we care about into a situation they couldn’t handle. Women need to realize when manning up can be dangerous & men need to quit letting their pride get the best of them or getting in fights just because they think they will get lucky later.

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