View from the cop

By Stan

December 4, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

“How bad could it be?” Depends ;)

By Dave

December 4, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Be comforted by the fact that nobody has ever died from being Tasered. One man fell, hit his head and died from the injury but that is the only case I am aware of (regardless what the liberal media and AI say)

By Jj

December 4, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

As a member of law enforcement, my brother has been tasered and pepper sprayed…….he’s still with us, and still a policeman, so it can’t be that bad……although I have noticed a tic in his left eye from time to time. Just kidding……

By El Bubba

December 4, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Well, to get the true experience you should be hand-cuffed and fall on concrete.

By David

December 4, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Steve, you NEED to tell us how bad it could be and video would certainly help!

By Peggy

December 4, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Steve, will the video of you being tasered be released for public viewing? My husband dies laughing everytime he is watching “Cops” and sees someone being tasered. He would probably enjoy your video as a Christmas gift. Happy Holidays!

By Kelly

December 4, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

I recall a similar experience going in to pepper spray training at the Lawrenceville PD a number of years ago. Two hoses for 11 students…no…I think this is MY hose and that one is for the rest of you!

By El Bubba

December 4, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

You people think this is all fun and games? Does Dave honestly think Tasers haven’t killed anyone?

These trigger happy cops are killing people, using it as a weapon of convenience. We all saw what happened to the guy in Utah…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMaMYL_shxc

Then of course there was the poor guy in Canada who did die. I guess Dave would say the taser didn’t kill him, it was the cops. After all, guns don’t kill, people do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IJqdL40lvU

Peggy, I hope your husband enjoys these videos. Does he also torture small animals? Hope he doesn’t “die laughing”.

El Bubba

By Cindy

December 4, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this

Ya’ll better sharpen up your debating skills, cause El Bubba is fired up.

El Bubba while you’re at it, show us some cases where the taser killed someone…the actual charge administered and the person dropped dead on the spot…not an injury that was a side-effect of the necessary use of force, and not a pre-existing health problem (like a psycho with no self control, who had to be tasered because they were a threat).

I’ll check back periodically for your updates. Thanks.

By Tony

December 4, 2007 8:43 PM | Link to this

El Bubba needs to go back on his medication.

By Cindy

December 4, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this

Those doggone internet drug companies will get you every time.

Probably sent him birth control pills instead.

By El Bubba

December 4, 2007 8:58 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

Did you look at the second video? The guy died before your very eyes.

Here is some good resource info. http://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/

What’s up with your debating skills? Why attack me and claim I’m doing drugs? I have a legitimate concern about the use of tasers in our society. I have voiced that concern, here, in the past. I think I am responsible in the way that I do it.

By Cindy

December 4, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this

I wasn’t attacking you. No I haven’t watched the video yet…I’ll do it and get back with you. I was playing about the pharmaceutical internet folks. I got bored. Sorry.

By El Bubba

December 4, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this

I’ll check my estrogen levels, just to be sure.

By Cindy

December 4, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this

Nope. No deal. Sir, you posted a video which contained a crazy. Crazy is a pre-existing condition. He was already unstable, hyped up, spazzing out, heart rate up, adrenaline pumping, no telling what else.

Next…

By Lee

December 4, 2007 9:34 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I’ve viewed all three of the Youtube video’s about Utah’s next millionaire. If a cop can’t handle a routine traffic stop without it getting out of control, maybe he shouldn’t be a cop.

Part of the reason that people will argue with a cop over a traffic ticket is that they know the courts are rigged against the citizen. Cop says you ran the STOP sign, you say you didn’t. That’ll be a $100, thankyouverymuchdrivesafelynowyouhear.

When tazers were first introduced to law enforcement, they were intended to be used as the last step before you pulled a gun. In practice, we get ol’ quickdraw from Utaw.

By Cindy

December 4, 2007 9:46 PM | Link to this

Now El Bubba, that estrogen comment was just plain funny. I likey.

Lee…please take a moment to give your expert explanation as to what the routine traffic stop is and we’ll go from there. Tomorrow. My eyes are getting ready to go to sleep and I don’t want to drool in my keyboard.

BTW, you are in law enforcement right? Ongoing training and all? I wouldn’t want to anxiously await your response, if it’s not an educated one.

By diana

December 4, 2007 11:47 PM | Link to this

Cindy- So what you and several other people on this blog are saying is that it’s okay to kill people who are agitated or on drugs, whether prescription or illegal? Everyone is saying that tasers never kill anyone EXCEPT people on drugs or with a mental condition, like it’s okay that it kills those people. I would love to know if tasers could also kill someone who was old, had a pacemaker, or had a heart condition. Would it be okay to tase granny just b/c she was a little agitated, or a person on legal prescription drugs? Some cops are pretty liberal with their use of the taser, check out the Canada video that El Bubba posted. Tasing someone in the back who is not a threat to you is completely ridiculous and unnecessary.

And Peggy, you’re husband sounds like he has a mean streak. Enjoying watching people suffer, whether they deserve it or not, is sick.

By Cindy

December 5, 2007 7:46 AM | Link to this

Diana, I didn’t say any of the things you mentioned. It’s important to not add to or omit portions of what someone said, or it’s no longer their words, has no meaning, redering it useless.

When the big, bad, mean people come calling on you…tell ya what…call 911…ask for help…but upon their arrival, have a little chit chat with the responding officer(s) and tell them that you realize that there’s a chance that someone could potentially be negatively affected by the means used to get the situation under control and that instead you all should huddle and come up with a suitable, win-win gameplan, so that everyone can home with a red ribbon. Also suggest that each person gets a really quick physical so that it’s ensured that all participants are equally qualified. Then and only then, should you receive the police protection you requested. After all, you wouldn’t want anyone to be able to say anything later.

Let’s all go hug a tree now.

By Fred

December 5, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this

I think in the interest of……. well interest Steve should post his video lol. “Don’t taze me Bro”

By Cindy

December 5, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Yeah me too. :)

By T

December 5, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Taser’s have no place in law enforcement. Time and time again you hear of their misuse. Either train officers properly or elimanate the idiots that can’t be trained. (Taser a man holding a baby. Taser a pregnant woman) obsurd!!!!

By T

December 5, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Taser’s have no place in law enforcement. Time and time again you hear of their misuse. Either train officers properly or elimanate the idiots that can’t be trained. (Taser a man holding a baby. Taser a pregnant woman) obsurd!!!!

By T

December 5, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Taser’s have no place in law enforcement. Time and time again you hear of their misuse. Either train officers properly or elimanate the idiots that can’t be trained. (Taser a man holding a baby. Taser a pregnant woman) obsurd!!!!

By Lee

December 5, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

I look foreward to reading about your experience. Maybe it will give most of us a better understanding. My opinion about tasers is a lot like my opionion on deer hunting - I may not like it but I understand the reason for it. Police officers need something other than guns to control violent people without putting themselves and others in danger. A person crazed on drugs or anger is not going to listen to the police asking him to behave. Right now it is the only means available to subdue a person without the use of deadly force.

By Slem

December 5, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

The thing everyone seems to be forgetting, is how many lives tasers have saved. The tasers are a less lethal weapon, in many situations the alternative if a taser was not available would have been shooting the suspect, and I am pretty sure guns have caused a lot more deaths than tasers. Although some officers may get carried away with the taser, I would much rather be tased by an overzealous officer than shot by one.

By T

December 5, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Slem. You don’t get it do you? Guns nor Tasers have ever killed anyone. People did.

By Cindy

December 5, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Taser’s have no place in law enforcement. Time and time again you hear of their misuse. Either train officers properly or elimanate the idiots that can’t be trained. (Taser a man holding a baby. Taser a pregnant woman) obsurd!!!!

Hit “enter” once and wait patiently like the rest of the world has to.

Stoopid people hold babies and get pregnant to. What else do people get a free pass for, in your world?

I can’t debate you. You’ve made no points, valid, invalid or anything else.

By Slem

December 5, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

T. You only seem to be focusing on the minority of instances in which an officer uses bad judgement. Do you plan on using the same rationale on criminals who kill people? Tell them that it’s not their weapon that hurts people, but the fact that they didn’t get enough attention as a child?

By T

December 5, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Cindy, I;m referring to the man that was wrongly acussed of trying to steal a baby from a hospital and after being taser’d the baby was dropped and landed on his head. As for the pregnant woman, was her baby ever taken into consideration. What are you saying? Should we risk the lives of the most innocent people in our world (babies) Comman sence still belongs in my world. How bout yours?

By T

December 5, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

That’s what im saying Slem the gun didn”t kill anyone the criminal did.

By Cindy

December 5, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

I had such a good response typed up…but for the 2nd time this morning, I forgot to include my name and email. so it wiped out my words. I give up. I’ll try again in a few. Must regroup.

By T

December 5, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Oh Cindy I forgot to mention I thought my comment deserved 3peting..lol

By Cindy

December 5, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

ok, I’m ready…but it’ll be the shortened up version…

he was stealing a baby…he got what he needed. the baby on the otherhand was already in for certain doom…the situation wasn’t looking up, so we can’t play “what if”.

preganant woman…is this the one who wasn’t even showing yet? anyway, women get pregnant…it’s what we do. somewhere along the line, I think that was the plan for populating the world…so pregnancy doesn’t earn any angel status…it’s simply a part of life. maybe now she’ll learn to behave like a real woman, not a thug. I doubt it though.

3-peated, huh? pretty funny. :)

By Slem

December 5, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

So what exactly is your point? On one hand you say tasers have no place in law enforcement and the other that weapons don’t kill, people do.

So basically your first post should have read. “Idiots have not place in law enforcement.” If you would have said that and not mentioned tasers at all I’m sure everyone would agree with you.

By Cindy

December 5, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Slem, good points.

I have to say something else, and then i’ll have to abandon ya’ll (for a little while) and get some work done.

In society, we have some people who don’t function normally. They can’t be fixed or saved. Period. The rest of us who aren’t that way, want some semblance of safety. So when the safeguards in place are actually used, we can’t cry and ask “but, what if…”

If your life is threatened and a taser saves the day…your views may change. The the mean people go to jail and you get to worry about when they get out…remember some people can’t be fixed. Crazy is forever.

If your life has not threatened and you haven’t found out first hand how quickly a situation can and does escalate, then this might not be the discussion for you.

Drastic times call for drastic measures.

By A reader

December 5, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Lt. Rose, where are you? Geez, man, just let us know you survived. After reading some of these comments, one would think these bloggers were “Tased and Confused”.

By T

December 5, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Ok…I give up..what do you not understand about guns or tasers need people to activate them..the instrument has nothing to do with the activation

By Tony

December 5, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Lt Rose, you know how to open up a big can of worms (lol). Cindy, thank you very much for your support and Lee, why don’t you come and show us how it’s done. Maybe you can retrain me since I only have 15 years experience. Tasers are a neccessary tool in law enforcement. People are crazier and more violent now than they have ever been. A prime example is how many cases of road rage you hear about. My department in particular deals with more and more cases of road rage where weapons were involved, now that’s crazy.

By RUChinaDoll

December 5, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Cindy Crazy is forever. You’re my hero.

By Filster

December 5, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Ah yes. Reading through the comments makes me wonder anew why and how we have not been self-selected as a species. As for Tasers, it appears there is a choice: use a taser or use a gun. While yes Virginia, there have been deaths associated with the use of tasers, the numbers pale in comparison to the use of bullets. I guess those who are against tasers and guns would prefer our police to clamly walk up the alleged drug user, bank robber, suspected murdered, fill-in-the-blank and ask them very politely to stop doing that and allow themselves to be taken into custody. Why perhsps those individuls will even volunteer to join the police force as part of that scenario. Wouldn’t that be lovely. For all of those concerned about using tasers on those poor little suspected criminals insread of shooting them dead, try this. Get one of those old electric trains and lick the end of the power cord where it plugs into the track. The jolt you’ll receive is somewhat comparable to the one you’ll get from a taser, but you may want to go wee wee beforehand. Lt. Steve-O, great subject. Sort of brings back fond memories of a John Ritter movie where he was jolted by an angry ex-girlfried using one of those electro-stim therapy machines. Then again, if she’d have shot him the movie wouldn’t have been quite so funny. End result, if you get tasered odds are definitely in your favor you’ll live to speed, rob, rape, kill, etc. another day. Odds aren’t nearly so high with bullets.

By Cindy

December 5, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

Filster…yeah that’s what I really meant to say! haha.

In the future our police should be trained to rationalize more and use more of their sensitivity training to find out just exactly what’s bothering these people and how we as a community can help.

Just kidding! :)

By Rick

December 5, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Steve,

I hope that - for the full effect - you yell “Don’t taze me, bro!” just before they pull the trigger!

By Cubby

December 5, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Quit crying about pepper and taser and whether they kill someone or not. Behave and you won’t get either

By the way, the United States Marine Corps gas chamber was great. Grown men spitting, crying, coughing, and snot running everywhere.

Nothing like it in the world. Oorah!

USMC 3rd Battalion 1991-1993

By El Bubba

December 5, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Filster, and others,

What if you guys could carry around little tranquilzer dart guns? They give Haldol to people in the ER for drug overdoses all the time, it doesn’t kill them. (Just looking for an alternative here.) In Filsters comment above he talks about Tasing “drug users, bank robbers and murderers”. In the two videos I posted you have; a distruaght guy in an airport, and a guy that wouldn’t sign his speeding ticket. I could have talked either one down in a matter of minutes but minutes aren’t what tasers are about, tasers are the “Make you do now” weapon, even if you don’t speak the same language (the guy in Canada). Filster has “fond memories” of some guy in a movie getting jolted by a train set? That’s certainly the kind of cop we want. Oh, that was John Ritter being jolted. Wasn’t he gay? Now that I think about it, haldol guns wouldn’t be so much fun for the people who like to see others writhe and jerk in agony as they hit the concrete.

By love my Brazilian wife

December 6, 2007 2:27 AM | Link to this

El Bubba……let me guess your political persuasion….uh, liberal? People who commit crimes against society deserve what they get. The cop is not there to make him/her feel good or feel bad about the crime he/she has committed. Being a former federal cop….there is a step by step increase to use of lethal force that is used to quell a given situation. The first being Verbal Command and then on to Pain Compliance. If this doesn’t work….oh well, two tears in a bucket, F* it.

By Hmmmm

December 6, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Millions upon millions of citizens are overlooked every day. Only a certain few draw the attention of Law Enforcement. Three hundred million citizens; only two or three in the media. That’s interesting! Oh wait, I forgot about the electronic draw a citizen to pick on for the day machine. It’s real simple. Take a chance on getting hurt in a struggle or Taser the idiot. Most officers can hold their own, but they’re stupid if they think there’s no one that can whip their butts! There’s always someone bigger and badder than you are. Why take the chance on encountering one of them?

By Lee

December 6, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

Cindy, a routine stop? Let’s see…

(1) Pull someone over on a minor traffic violation, (2) occupants of the vehicle were a young couple with a baby in the back seat, (3) run the drivers license, comes back clean, (4) run the tag and it comes back clean.

Gee, I don’t know, sounds pretty routine to me.

By Pogo

December 6, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

The one instance that really bothers me is the guy that got tasered because he did not obey the officers’ command. He couldn’t because he did not know what they said, he was deaf.

Lt. Steve, I pray you survive your date with Reddy Kilowatt with all your synapses properly polarized…

By crash

December 6, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

I think the cop’s actions in Utah were justified. The “perp” was:

disobeying the cop; clearly agitated; reaching toward his pocket (watch the video again if you need to).

He’s lucky tasers are standard issue these days. 10+ years ago, his action might have found him in the morgue, not the jail.

By Diogenes

December 6, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Speaking as someone who has been through taser-training, take it from me — PIDDLE BEFORE-HAND. ‘Nuff said.

By Fred

December 6, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Oh Stevo, where are you? Did you survive?

Cindy, you are cracking me up. You should write a column. Do you like racing? I can set you up with a gig if you do lol.

By Filster

December 6, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

El Bubba: You’d have to see the movie to understand. Ritter was a great physical comedian. And what the blazes does your “wasn’t he gay comment” have to do with the price of tea in China (also, probably a big surprise to his widow). Just wish I could remember the name f the movie, but it’s an older one. Worth tracking down and viewing. Anyway, I think the point you are missing is if you comply with the officers instructions, i.e., “pull over,” “get back in the car,” “sign here,” etc., chances are you will not get tasered. However, those who insist upon “standing up for their rights” by yelling, swearing, insulting, etc. are simply asking for it and perhaps a good tasering might adjust their attitude. Will thee be some yahoos who misuse tasers. Yup. Will there be even more idiots out there giving the yahoos excuses to use tasers. Most certainly. However, you (appearing to be one who sympathizes with the “poor criminals”) seize up what are extremely isolated incidents in an attempt (go ahead, deny the 2 incidents you repeatedly cite to are the norm) to make something out of nothing. Such sensationalism does nothing useful at all but I guess it fluffs your ego. I think a better approach would be to analyze all taser useage in the U.S., determine the death rate (are there that many zeros to the right of the decimal point?), and then break it down into categories such as traffic stop, dealing with drug-crazed knife weilding maniacs, boy scouts, little old white haired ladies, etc. Then again, if you did that and had to deal with actual numbers which would undoubtedly be contrary to your position,I guess you’s have to find something else to get on your soapbox about. Say, I hear the debate onglobal warming is still pretty hot, and it’s a greatplace to say stuff without appropriate facualt support to back up your ravings. Lt Steve, is the “don’t taser me bro” open to civilians. My old Lionel set doesn’t work anymore.

By Rocky

December 6, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

saying, “don’t taze me, Bro.” doesn’t work.

By Cindy

December 6, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Gee, I don’t know, sounds pretty routine to me.

You’re right. I’m an idiot. Ok not really, but I couldn’t think of anything to say right now.

Cindy, you are cracking me up. You should write a column. Do you like racing? I can set you up with a gig if you do lol.

Awww, thanks…I think.

Now Fred…who doesn’t like racing? I like the funny cars and dragsters best.

You think I’m funny? You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet. :)

You think I’m funny? Like a clown? I’m here to entertain you? sorry, got lost in a movie quote do you know which one?

By Tom T

December 6, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Cubby, your description of the Corps’ Gas Chamber brought back some GREAT memories, as well as tears to my eyes from laughter!! Semper Fi!

By El Bubba

December 6, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Fister, et al. I wouldn’t call myself liberal, more of a libertarian. I realize there is a legitimate use for tasers but until you guys can better train/hire your officers we have a problem. I’ll say it again, in the two instances I refer to, those people could have been talked down. Would you agree? It would help the pro-taser group if you guys would stop craking jokes about it and treat it as a serious weapon. Now let me help you make your argument. The whole Rodney King incident and the riots that followed could have been avoided if… I am “on a soapbox” because I’m a concerned citizen, and I certaily don’t need my “ego fluffed”. Everybody calls me a liberal, what’s that got to do with the price of tea in China? El Bubba

By BexB

December 6, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

My mom tried to give me a can of pepper spray to carry around with me in case I ever get mugged (not likely in Macon, GA, especially since I don’t hang out in dark alleys after dark). I have asthma. Put two and two together. My luck would be I’d have the nozzle turned the wrong way ‘round and pepper spray myself, then gag and hack and cough and send myself into an asthma attack. I’ll end up dead. Then maybe my mom and/or husband can sue the pepper spray manufacturers, as it was indeed the pepper spray and not the idiot (me) using it. I politely turned down the crime-deterrent pepper spray and decided I’d take my chances with the perp instead.

By Lee

December 6, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

I guess the alternative to tazers is to sic a police dog on you.

By Filster

December 6, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

E.Bubba - Cindy, me, and others of our ilk aren’t making fun of the situation with tasers. We’re making fun of YOU!!!! bwaaaaa Libertarian, eh? I’ll agree with the first 5 letters of that. You demand a 100% perfect world and if it’s not, then it’s the complete opposite. I agree a few idiots misuse tasers, but the fac tis the vast majority of taser use is probably appropriate and saves lives, both the officer and the idiot. The alternative, let the criminal go free or use a gun, Jocko the police dog, or maybe spray and a baton, although that increases the risk to the officer and therefore ups the apprehension thereby possibly leading to a gun. Man I wish I could remeber that John Ritter movie. he played a philandering novelist who ended up straightened out. And the scene after the electrostim therapy was freakin hilarious. Also had a bit about a frog and a scorpion. Anyone seen the movie, please post the title.

By Bryan Hunter

December 6, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

TASER”S DO NOT KILL PEOPLE!!!! There have been over 100,000 cops shot with the Taser and they are all still alive. The people that believe Taser’s kill will also probably vote for Hillary.

By Bowfan

December 6, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this

Funny K9 video! One other benefit regarding use of taser vs gun, if the projectile misses target or passes thru target no one else dies. When you’re in the mall with the suspect and you’re the bystander standing 70 feet away, which would you rather see drawn? I agree it needs discretion in use, but the alternatives may be worse.

Still waiting for the Rose video… How bad was it?

By Fred

December 6, 2007 11:29 PM | Link to this

Cindy, yes I know which Joe Pesci (spelling looks wrong) quote you are doing. I LOVE that movie. I read the book long before it became a movie….. You wise gal. But I was serious.

By Cindy

December 7, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

See link for John Ritter movies…then let us know so we can look for it and watch it too. I love to laugh. I hope the link shows up correctly…never tried it in here before…if not hopefully it will at least show something you can use to copy and paste.

Yeah, I don’t really want to see Steve in pain…but if he posts the video…I will watch it.

For the record…even though El Bubba doesn’t see things the way we do…he’s still funny see the comment he made about estrogen …he’s appropriate in his postings. Thanks El Bubba.

Ok it’s my birf-day ya’ll…so shower me with gifts here.. just email ‘em. ;)

By Cindy

December 7, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

BTW Lee, Meant to get back with you on the routine traffic stop issue earlier.

Never underestimate the risks involved in each and every stop/call. When an officer approaches anyone expecting a routine stop, he/she just exponentially increased his/her odds of not going home.

Perspective and training. Assuming everyone is a young, sweet couple on their way back from Chuck E Cheese will get you dead. Quickly.

By Lee

December 7, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this

I guess you’re right Cindy, there’s no such thing as a routine traffic stop.

By Cindy

December 7, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this

Dang Lee. You’re silly. I didn’t realize that. Each time (yes more than one, dangit) I’ve been stopped I was no threat either. But I still don’t have a problem with the po-leece using caution…even with sweet lil ol me. And I must’ve behaved appropriately too…cuz I even managed to not get tasered. Wish I could say the same thing about not getting the expensive fines too. :( oh well, 1 out of 2 aint bad.

By Cindy

December 7, 2007 11:06 PM | Link to this

Time for us to stop tasing this dead horse.

More topics please Steve…make em good too. :)

By Cindy

December 10, 2007 8:58 PM | Link to this

Read this story about the dumb-dumb who died after being tasered

Pre-existing conditions: drug use, big dummy who wouldn’t follow directions but expected his results to be different than some other dummy who wouldn’t obey the police, alleged rapist.

By Fred

December 10, 2007 9:37 PM | Link to this

as requested from the other thread Cindy, a post. Also another movie quote; “As you wish.” Figure THAT one out lol (if you do you also have a 5 year old daughter and watched an 80’s movie with her lately………)

By Cindy

December 11, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

The Princess Bride.

But I’ve not watched the movie, nor do I have a 5 year old daughter. I’ve had 5 year old daughters before though; does that count?

I’m having a really hard time not using the three dots in my posts…it’s just my style to do so…like this…to show where I pause in my speech. Dang language etiquette.

By ElBubba

December 11, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Cindy! The three dots are fine… multiples of three are not……………cool.

By Mike

December 17, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Tell us Steve how bad was it?