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Can Florida hold Oklahoma to 31 points?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Today we will finally get away and head down to South Florida for the BCS championship game. It’s going to be a busy Thursday for us. Here is what is coming up:
On Thursday morning I’ll break down my five keys to the game and give you the final winner and the score. Then just before the kickoff I’ll bring you up to date on the atmosphere at Dolphin Stadium and share some final thoughts.
During the game I’ll be on-line providing commentary and at various times. If you have questions or comments of your own during the game, jump in and we’ll discuss. When it’s all over I’ll provide some post-game analysis and you can tell me where I was all wrong.
But today, as I prepare to get on Delta and head South, I still have five burning questions about the BCS championship game:
1. Can Florida hold Oklahoma to 31 points? The Sooners led the nation in scoring by averaging 54 points per game. They set an NCAA record with 702 points (97 touchdowns, 8 field goals). Only two teams held Oklahoma to less than 40 points this season. TCU had the nation’s No. 2 defense and Oklahoma beat the Horned Frogs 35-10. Texas held Oklahoma to 35 and scored 45 to win in Dallas back on Oct. 11. I think the magic number for Florida is 31. If Florida can hold Oklahoma to 31, it can score enough points to win against a Sooner defense that was No. 58 nationally (24.5 ppg).
The Gators have the nation’s No. 4 scoring defense, giving up only 12.8 points per game. Oklahoma has faced only one defense like Florida’s and that belonged to TCU, which gave up 11.3 points per game this season. I also look for Florida to try to sustain some drives and eat up some clock in an effort to limit Bradford’s possessions.
2. Is Percy Harvin REALLY at 90 percent? You saw during the SEC championship game that Florida’s offense is effected when No. 1 is not on the field. Fortunately for Florida a bunch of guys stepped up and made plays in the fourth quarter, especially Tim Tebow. But when Harvin is out there the defense really has to obsess about his location on every single play and it opens up opportunities for other players. The bottom line is that Harvin at 90 percent is better than just about everybody else at 100 percent. I’m hearing his speed in practice is just fine. The uncertainty is about his ability to cut off that tender ankle. If he can make those sharp cuts, then the Oklahoma defense is going to have some problems.
3. How will the loss of DeMarco Murray really effect Oklahoma? Chris Brown actually led the Sooners in rushing his season with 1,110 yards and 20 touchdowns. But one of the reasons Oklahoma closed with five straight games over 60 points is that Murray (1,002 yards rushing), had become the team’s best big-play runner. Murray is out of Thursday night’s game with a ruptured hamstring and a lot of big play potential goes with him. But don’t be surprised of Oklahoma offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson gives some extra carries to sophomore Mossis Madu (111 carries, 468 yards) in an effort to pop some big plays against the Florida defense.
4. Will Florida really be affected by the status of Dan Mullen? Mullen, the new head coach at Mississippi State, decided to stay on as offensive coordinator and call the plays in the BCS championship game. Steve Addazio, Florida’s offensive line coach, will take over as the coordinator after this game. Mullen and Tebow are very close and basically share the same brain when it comes to calling plays during the game. Does that change because Mullen might be distracted with the demands of his new job? Everybody is saying all the right things and everybody is trying to make this work. But what happens when the lights come on and the game starts?
5. How many turnovers will there be? If the teams hold true to form, not many. When it comes to taking care of the football, it’s hard to find two better teams than these. Oklahoma had only nine turnovers all season, which is the lowest total in the country. Florida had only 11 turnovers, the second lowest total. The quarterbacks are ridiculous in this area. Tebow threw the ball 268 times this season and had only two interceptions. Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford, the Heisman Trophy winner, threw it 442 times and had only six interceptions. These are the top two teams in the nation when it comes to turnover margin, which I believe is the most important stat in football. Oklahoma leads the nation with plus-23 (32 turnovers gained, 9 lost) while Florida is plus-22 (33 gained, 11 lost). If either team forces more than two turnovers in this game, it wins.




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Comments
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 8:43 AM | Link to this
Boomer Sooner! We are having Gator for dinner tomorrow night!
By Big XII Rules
January 7, 2009 8:54 AM | Link to this
BOOMER SOONER!
OU 48 Florida 28
By Rick
January 7, 2009 9:03 AM | Link to this
Florida will roll. OK’s defense is ranked 54th in the nation and Florida has already played 3 or 4 defenses ranked higher than that. Don’t be surprised if the game is over by the beginning of the third quarter. SEC finishes the bowl season at 6-2. Alabama was the only team that was expected to win and laid an egg. South Carolina blows, anyway.
By TEX
January 7, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this
Florida 45-35 .
By dawgs4ever
January 7, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this
If Harvin plays, Florida comes out of the gate like a freight train. Oklahoma will score some points, but their defense is MUCH better than Oklahoma’s. Oklahoma will be looking at an exact copy of their offensive firepower, only with twice the speed. By the second half, it will be no contest.
If Harvin doesn’t play, it will be much closer, but Florida still wins by two touchdowns.
By Atlanta Gator
January 7, 2009 9:09 AM | Link to this
Tony——Please, please, please pick Oklahoma! The Gators do not need to suffer from the “Mr. College Football Curse.” LOL
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 9:09 AM | Link to this
South Carolina blows???? They almost beat UGAG, that doesn’t say much for the preseason #1 UGAG!
By SoonerinTX
January 7, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this
I am very nervous about this game. Florida and my Sooners have the same high scoring offense, but all signs point to Florida having the best defense. Sam will have to play at his highest level to keep us in the game. I hope Tebow hits his head in the shower and Harvin has his ankle flare up.
By IM4BAMA
January 7, 2009 9:14 AM | Link to this
I am so ready for UF and the SEC to show Big 12 fans that that your still not as good as the SEC. Great offenses, but that’s it. Head to head, you lose.
I knew Ole Miss would beat TT and I know UF beats OU.
By I just hope...
January 7, 2009 9:16 AM | Link to this
OK doesn’t suck as bad as TX and TX Tech did, and that FL doesn’t suck as bad as AL did!
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 9:20 AM | Link to this
IM4BAMA, You sure didn’t help the SEC cause by losing to Utah, you went all season without a loss and then lose big to FL and Utah, given how you got killed by Utah, just exactly how good is the SEC? HAHAHAHAHAHAH
By Atlanta Gator
January 7, 2009 9:34 AM | Link to this
Comments in response to Tony——
(1) If Ohio State and Ole Miss can hold the vaunted Big XII offensive machines of Texas and Texas Tech to 34 and 24 points respectively, one would think that Florida’s statistically stronger defense could hold Oklahoma to 31. That’s thinking logically. The problem is that college football is driven by game-day match-ups and emotion. Bottom line: The Gators are CAPABLE of holding the Sooners to 31 or fewer points. The question is will they do so when it matters?
(2) Golly, I hope so. But if Percy Harvin really isn’t ready to play, he is already serving a purpose as a weapon of mass deception and forcing the Sooners to alter their defensive game plan to account for his presence. That has very real value in distracting the Sooners. If he’s actually ready to play, then so much the better.
(3) Losing DeMarco Murray cannot help. It’s always better to have more options on offense than fewer. More weapons forces more elaborate defensive game-planning and forces the players on the field to track more potential rushers and receivers, complicating their assignments. Having another good back also helps keep everyone fresher, too, with more frequent substitutions. No, losing Murray is probably not a game changer, but it doesn’t help.
(4) I certainly hope not. From their public statements, the Gators’ offensive coaching staff seems to have done everything possible to make this transition a smooth one. Dan Mullen’s game-day role is really limited to play-calling from the press box, from an offensive game plan of pre-scripted plays. And the Gators’ game plan is really a collective effort of all of the Gators’ offensive coaches, including Meyer and Mullen, so the plan itself should not be much affected, if at all. As long as Mullen can keep his head in the game for four quarters of play-calling, everything should be hunky-dory.
If Mullen needs motivation (and I really doubt that), he can simply remind himself that his Mississippi State recruiting efforts will go much better if his Gators offense beats the Sooners on national, prime-time television, with every uncommitted recruit in the country watching.
(5) Turnovers are often the key to the outcome of any game. The Sooners and Gators are ranked first and second in net turnovers among all Division I teams. Either both teams play flawless, no-turnover football for four quarters, or something has got to give.
Tony, I was really just teasing you about the “Mr. College Football Curse.” You can pick the Gators if you really want to. I don’t really believe in sports curses, anyway. But, why don’t you pick the Gators in a close game, say, 17-14. No blow-outs, please. wink, wink
By Miles
January 7, 2009 9:37 AM | Link to this
Oklahoma will not score 31 points…Percy will be just fine…Brown and Madu are going to get a good taste of SEC defense…Dan Mullen’s venture to Starkville will function as a trip to Disneyland in comparison to coaching at Florida…let’s hope there are no turnovers…Florida will win the game…enjoy your time in Miami, Mr. Barnhart!
By travy
January 7, 2009 10:03 AM | Link to this
the numbers don’t lie and ou’s defense is weak and uf’s is strong. 56-27 gators. if harvin is still too banged up to be effective take 2 touchdowns from the gators but they still win…
By BILLY JACK
January 7, 2009 10:10 AM | Link to this
BIG 12-DID YOU SAY 48-28-DUDE YOU NEED TO SIMMER DOWN-YOU MIGHT JUST BE DRUNK BUT ITS ONLY 10 IN THE MORNING-YOUR PLAYING AN SEC TEAM WHICH IS THE MOST POWERFUL CONFERENCE IN THE LAND DESPITE BAMAS SHAMEFUL BEATDOWN.I PROMISE FLA WILL NOT PLAY THAT WAY-YOU MIGHT NEED TO FLIP THE SCORE-IM A GA GRAD AND NO LOVE FOR THE GATORS BUT PULL FOR ANY SEC TEAM AT BOWLTIME REGARDLESS.YOUR RECORD IS NOT GOOD AGAINST THE SEC ANYWAY REMEMBER- LSU AND THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP A FEW YEARS AGO-YEA I THOUGHT YOU DID-JUST REMEMBER IF YOU CAN HANG WITH THEM FOR A HALF YOU WILL BE DOING GOOD.GOOD LUCK YOULL NEED IT.
By m
January 7, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this
This so-called bcs national championship game is completely BOGUS. This game was arbitrarily chosen and is complete bullshiite. Utah, Texas and USC and others should have been given the chance to win it on the field and not just some stupid opinion poll. Until idiots like Tony see the light and start demanding a 16-team playoff, then we are left with a sham system year after year. It has destroyed the other bowls (did you notice all the empty seats in MOST bowls?) The bcs is as BAD as Chan Gailey is a coach and Tony Barnyard is a prognosticator. That is BAD. And, as always, Thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone forever. He should have taken the sham bcs with him.
By RC
January 7, 2009 10:16 AM | Link to this
None of this really matters, as this Mythical National Championship game has been reduced to nothing more than a game to determine who holds the three-way claim to “First Place Loser”.
Florida, Oklahoma, Texas and Utah are all Losers. Utah is not. Utah is #1. The vaunted and storied Alabama could not even come close to competing with Utah.
The SEC at (72%); and Big 12 at (75%) play almost all of their out of conference games at home; and they play against weaker competition to create the illusion that they are good (See Tulane, Rice, UL Lafayette, SF Austin and the Citadel).
When it comes to competing with the big-boys the SEC and Big 12 stink. Teams from the Mountain West Conference won 64.3% of their games vs Automatic Qualifier BCS teams. Compare that to 40% by the SEC; and 46.7% by the Big 12.
Utah is #1.
Florida is battling for the title of “First Place Loser”.
By BILLY JACK
January 7, 2009 10:30 AM | Link to this
RC-Listen Utah had a great year but if you were playing fla thurs night you would lose and some of your players could be hurt badly.Playing Bama who left thier hearts at home in no way means your ready for the big time.Great game but play an SEC slate where its FLA-LSU-GA-TENN-OLE MISS-and even ALA every week.Your 8-4 in the SEC.
By reebok
January 7, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this
First team to punt loses. Final score 63-60.
By Bamafan
January 7, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this
The special teams will win the game for the gators!! 45-24!! GO GATORS!!!
By RxDawg
January 7, 2009 10:42 AM | Link to this
Go Sooner, UGA was obviously overated preseason. It happens. For the last 8 years we have been underated so I can handle the change. Bama’s loss to Utah doesn’t mean the SEC is bad. It means that Utah is very good and in my opinion should probalby be considered for a spilt national championship at the least.
By RC
January 7, 2009 10:47 AM | Link to this
Florida is a very good team. But they had their chances; and they lost.
Florida is a Loser! And the SEC lost 40% of their games against the Big-Boys; and the SEC is 0-2 vs. the Mountain West Conference.
Utah is a winner! The Mountain West won 64% of their games against the big boys; and the Mountain West is 2-0 vs. the SEC.
The SEC and Big 12 are the wussiest conferences in all of football. Over 70% of Out of Conference games are played at home; all bowl games are essentially home games; and yet when you break it down, both conferences are incredibly average.
Why don’t you SEC guys ever prove it on the road?
Utah is #1!
Spin away!
By murfdawg
January 7, 2009 10:51 AM | Link to this
Most precision passing teams struggle after a month layoff. The team that starts fast should be able to win. A turnover at a key moment will decide the game.
Why does Fla need Mullen? They have Superman. Maybe Tebow will try to impress the NFL scouts and become the #1 pick instead of Bradford or Stafford.
By jej
January 7, 2009 10:52 AM | Link to this
OU wins, 41-34. Florida leads early though, as OU’s offense will take longer to get cranked up after the long break.
By M is an IDIOT
January 7, 2009 11:04 AM | Link to this
There is one thing we can all agree on… M is a FLAMING IDIOT.
He is somewhere in his cubicle reading comic books and surfing the web for porn.
By What now???
January 7, 2009 11:06 AM | Link to this
First a vent.
One can debate the question of whether the BCS is real or bogus until hellz freezes over but it is what it is for now. Reading the same old crap from m and others every time Tony writes an article just sounds stupid. Don’y shoot the messenger. Personally I thought, and usually think that Tony’s articles are well thought out whether I agree with them or not. What bothers me are the bloggers that feel compelled to add a “personal” element by name calling (i.e. GAYTORS or Tim TeBLOW…what is the point) It demonstartes a remarkable lack of maturity. Why can’t you just state your cases without attacking others on a personal level.
Now, after venting…I agree totally with Atlanta Gator’s post. Both Texas and Texas Tech clearly showed that they could be stopped by a fast and strong defense and they are two of the three best teams in their conference. I think Tony is right on about the “31 points”. Florida will probably stop or at least slow down Oklahoma and Bradford. The question is can they score enough to beat them.. I think they can and will.
By gatorsWIN
January 7, 2009 11:08 AM | Link to this
Gayors win 42-27. It won’t be close.
By BulldogDean
January 7, 2009 11:10 AM | Link to this
These OU fans need to be brought back to reality…They are the worst of the bunch IMO…The difference will be Florida’s speed on the DLINE, they are much better thank oklahoma and they will find out thursday night…the sec will smack those big 12 farmers back to the ugly dust bowl…
By Shaking my head
January 7, 2009 11:13 AM | Link to this
reebok Now that was funny!
By Randy
January 7, 2009 11:15 AM | Link to this
Hey “M” and “RC” when Utah starts playing “STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE” games and quits playing powerhouses such as Weber State then come on the board and talk trash. In the meantime quit whining about your undefeated status, any team in the SEC, Big Ten or Big Twelve could go undefeated with that schedule.
By GatorG
January 7, 2009 11:18 AM | Link to this
RC,
Don’t talk about the SEC’s out of conference record and then say Florida is a loser. Florida played Miami at home and FSU on the road, and beat both handily.
And your comparison of records against, “the big boys” is a joke. Hello? SEC opponents ARE the big boys, by YOUR definition. Mountain West opponents are NOT the big boys, by YOUR definition. Duh!
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 11:22 AM | Link to this
I personally don’t have a problem with putting Utah up there at the top. I was one of the few people that picked Utah to win over Bama (and no not in hindsight). They were undefeated, beat a team nobody thought they would…hmmmm….sounds like Boise St a few year ago doesn’t it??? I am tired of the logic that small schools can’t play with the big boys. Big upsets happen every year in the D-I basketball tournament (anybody remember George Mason going to the final 4?). By and large, the bigger schools that are favorites would win most contests, but there are also the App St, Boise St, and Utah’s of the world that are legit football programs and can play with anybody. Its the players under the shoulder pads that determine the outcome, not the logo on the helmet. I think it’s time some of the small schools get a chance and playoffs are the only way to do it.
As far as the NCG, I agree with another poster and think Tony missed one on the 5 burning questions. OU has been bad, I mean REALLY BAD on kick coverage all year and UF excels in that area. UF getting a return TD or a short field most of the game could well prove to be the deciding factor regardless of the turnover battle.
UF 59 - OU 28
By history lesson
January 7, 2009 11:26 AM | Link to this
By I just hope…
January 7, 2009 9:16 AM | Link to this
OK doesn’t suck as bad as TX and TX Tech did, and that FL doesn’t suck as bad as AL did!
Didnt Texas beat OU head to head? How can you say that the losing team head to head is better than the team it lost to? U must but a UGAy fan. 45-42 Go Tech! THWG
By GaHurricane
January 7, 2009 11:26 AM | Link to this
FL will win by 2 TD’s because it’s DL will pressure Bradford. That’s why TX had the success it did. OU is a good team with a very good OL and VERY good RB.
What OU is not ready for is the speed and athleticism of FL DL. They don’t see that kind of DL talent in the Big 12. OU will not get the number of big plays it’s used to so the question becomes, will Bradford stay patient.
Alabama got smacked because it really missed Andre Smith, and then his replacement got hurt. Forget the skill guys. You win in the trenches.
For all you DAWG fans, thats why you lost the games you did. Your OL/DL were in bad shape. The OL because of youth and the DL because of injuries.
Tech steamrolled GA but LSU killed them. Look out for LSU next year. That QB looks like he can be good.
Bottom line though, USC has probably got the most talented and well coached defense in the country. Pete Carroll is the best recruiter/coach in the country because he can get kids from everywhere.
I’d love to see USC vs FL.
By Joe
January 7, 2009 11:27 AM | Link to this
Rick,
Its funny and pathetic that you are keeping track of the SEC bowl record. Why don’t you worry about whatever team you are a bandwagon fan of and not attaching yourself to the accomplishments of other teams?
God, rooting for your conference is so sad.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 11:27 AM | Link to this
FL has never seen an O Line like OU has, FL’s defense maybe great, but they have played weak teams all year, the only competition FL had this year is Bama who got exposed by Utah, so how good really is FL? FL’s SOS is much weaker than OU’s. the only thing FL has going for them is OU’s recent bowl appearances where they have lost
By Preseason #1
January 7, 2009 11:29 AM | Link to this
Both m and RC need to return to their rooms where they can silently play their video games and occasionally ask their moms for a sandwich. Please, no unformed minds should participate in this blog.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 11:31 AM | Link to this
One more favor for the Gators, their special teams, OU’s are very weak
By Will
January 7, 2009 11:35 AM | Link to this
Big Tone,
Usually I save my pics for later but I will go ahead and give it to ya. Plus you know I am usually right and I’m sure you will want to use some of my points in your column.
Anyways, UF will roll 2moro. The first half will be close but the Gators will win by 17 or 21. Okie State was terrible, Texas Tech stunk and Texas and Missouri played featherweights and barely won their bowl games. Oklahoma plays a crappy schedule as they do every year and will be exposed by Tebow and the UF “scatbacks”.
UF is the hammer-lock of the year…Well, besides my pick of the USC Lamecocks losing their bowl game! Now that was an easy one….
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 11:36 AM | Link to this
How can you say FL’s defense is so good, they haven’t faced a decent offense all season. Ole Miss’s win over Tx Tech was no surprise, TX Tech sucks and almost lost to Baylor. Don’t go off the Ole Miss win over Tx Tech. This year the Big 12 and SEC have played twice TX beat AR and Ole Miss beat Tx Tech. As of now neither conference is better than the other
By steve
January 7, 2009 11:37 AM | Link to this
My prediction…
Florida 41, Oklahoma 24
Personally, I sure miss the days when all the big bowl games were on New Year’s Day. My enthusiasm for these later bowl games have lost all momentum. I have very little interest in this game.
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 11:42 AM | Link to this
GaHurricane,
I would agree with most of what you posted, but Florida doesn’t have a stellar D-line. Brandon Spikes, a LB, is probably their best pass rusher when he lines up at DE on obvious passing downs or blitzes from the inside at his natural position. UF’s front 4 is a much better run stuffing unit than they are at pass rush. No one in their regular defensive line rotation has double digit sack numbers, and they have 31 on the season as a team, which is respectable, but not dominant.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 11:44 AM | Link to this
Michigan scored over 40 points on FL last year, i have a hard time figuring out how much better FL’s defense can get in 1 year to stop the best offense in the country
By G8R GRAD
January 7, 2009 11:55 AM | Link to this
It comes down to turnovers and special teams.
UF 42
OU 20
GO GATORS!
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this
Go Sooners,
That last post was not very intelligent. UF’s defense is no juggernaut, let me make that clear, but they are lightyears ahead of where they were a year ago. To make that comparison about the Michigan game tells me that you probably haven’t watched Florida play a game this season, they are a much better and much improved unit over last season. It’s probably also why you are so convinced that OU is sooooo underrated and will win this game. You probably had the same feeling going into your bowl games the last 4 times and couldn’t figure out why your team got embarrased even though they beat the hell out of every team in the Big 12.
By hope sec wins
January 7, 2009 11:58 AM | Link to this
sos I can forget that half a hundred Tech laid on us
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 11:59 AM | Link to this
On 1 other note Go Sooners, this isn’t the first time in the last 5 years the Sooners were the #1 offensive team in the country and it hasn’t worked out too well for them come bowl season!
By Get a clue Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 12:05 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners UF’s defense IS night and day better than last season. The comment about the Michigan lost would be equvilant to someone bringing up OU losing to Boise State and WVU as factors this season. See how that doesn’t work?
Secondly, the SEC bowl teams have come out and played above their offensive averages this bowl season while the Big 12 has played significantly below their offensives averages this bowl season. So maybe that notion that SEC defenses are good that it skews the numbers and that the Big 12 D’s are that bad that it skews the offensive numbers. Proof is there my friend.
Lastly UF played Bama’s OL which is every bit as good as OU’s. UF’s defense is better than OU’s as is their Special teams there’s no debating that. While Ou’s offense is awesome they don’t have anywhere near the speed or playmakers that UF has. There isn’t one player on OU’s O that is fast as Harvin, Rainey or Demps and this is a FACT.
I think the game is a tossup regardless of what is favored on paper. there are so many variables in a game like this and most of it is from a mental standpoint.
Good luck and if you are proven wrong with your acertations about UF’s D I hope you are back here Friday eating crow.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 12:12 PM | Link to this
TigerinATL, Big 12 is 4-2 in bowl games this year, that ain’t bad. You SEC fans think because you figured out the Big 12 has no defense you’re onto something, well no s**t they don’t have a defense, we’ve known that for years now. Why do you think all their games are labeled SHOOT OUTS? TX beat AR this year, since the SEC is so great on defense how in the world did that happen?
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 12:15 PM | Link to this
Get a clue Go Sooners, Bama was lucky all season, they barely won half the games they played. FL is a great team, the only decent team in the whole conference
By get it right
January 7, 2009 12:16 PM | Link to this
“Affect.” Not “effect.”
By Eric1
January 7, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this
It’s Oklahoma’s time. They’ve stunk in BCS games and they’re tired of it. FL hasn’t really beat anyone of substance. It’ll be Sooners not Lators.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this
I have alot of respect for the SEC, they have dominated in the past 10 years hands down, but the way you all down play other conferences is BS and doesn’t even make any sense. TN and UGA among others in the SEC were at their worst this year, so you have FL and that’s it, not much of a leg to stand on
By The Rifleman
January 7, 2009 12:23 PM | Link to this
I just wish some of you UGA fans had some guts about yourselves!!!! First, Saban comes in and beats down your manhood and then Meyer rips away whatever respect you had left and you pulling for them in the bowl games?!?!?!?!?!?! Last time I checked, they don’t give away trophies for the “conference cup” or rings for “best conference in the land”. How about you Bulldoggies stand up and say “Screw Meyer!!!”?
Ask yourself this question. Next time some hotshot recruit down in Valdosta narrows down his choices between Georgia and Florida and Urban shows up with his two national title rings and Richt shows up with his second tier bowl game trophies, where do you think that recruit is going to go?
Use a little common sense Bulldoggies!!! You don’t want Florida to win and neither should fans of other SEC schools.
The next time all 12 AD’s of the SEC fly into Orlando and or NYC to pick up the “conference cup” or whatever the hell ESPN is calling it these days will be the first time I pull for Richt, Saban, and Miles to win their bowl game.
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this
So lets see what the vaunted big 12 south did in this bowl season.
High powered Texas Tech offense gets throttled in a buttkicking as Ole Miss from the sec runs over, around, and through the Red Raiders in totally dominating fashion 47-34. Nope, they don’t play D in the big 12 south after all.
Another highpowered big 12 offense in Ok State gets shut down and Ok St. loses. Now 0-2 for what most pundits were touting as the best division in football. I don’t remember what Ok. St scored but it was certainly far below their average if memory serves me correctly.
Texas gets dominated up and down the field especially in the running game by Ohio St.(perennial whipping boy of the SEC) but rallies to win in the final seconds. They still only put up 24 pts on an Ohio State defense that gets torched every year by LSU and UF in the last 2 title game appearances. Ohio St. shredded the Texas D for over 200 yards rushing. Texas scores 24 only against the big 10 which went 1-6 in bowl games? Very telling as to how bad the defenses in the big 12 really are if OSU can hold Texas to 24 while Texas was scoring in the 40s and 50s against everyone else in the big 12.
Big 12 south now 1-2 with 2 buttkickings, one narrow win where they got dominated, and their prolific offenses were largely shut down in all 3 games. Sure, TT still managed 34 to ole miss 47 but they only scored 34 because they were getting so many possessions because Ole Miss was scoring so often and so easily.
Looking at it objectively those big 12 south teams were extremely overrated. People bought into the hype because psychologically people are more impressed with offenses while defense is a bit boring. That’s just human nature.
Looking at the sec it is 5-2. Alabama laid an egg of course and got whipped by an underrated Utah team. S. Carolina was beaten by Iowa which was a decent team to begin with. They were the only big 10 team to beat Penn St. and they lost something like 4 games by 7 pts. Iowa was actually a decent team that lost a lot of close games early and then improved dramatically in the latter half of the season very similar to Ole Miss.
OU hasn’t seen a big, super fast defense the likes of what they will see in the gators. Judging by what the other 3 big 12 offenses have done against lesser defenses I think its obvious OU is gonna have some serious problems. OU also will not have seen the type of running game that Tebow and the gators bring. It will be similar to the running game of West Virginia which put up 48 on the sooners in last years orange bowl. No way they stop the gator offense.
Lastly, special teams is what a lot of people are overlooking. UF was incredible on special teams this year blocking numerous punts, running back numerous punts for tds, blocking field goals, etc. OUs special teams, especially defensing kickoff and punt returns have been abysmal. Look at what Texas did to them in the kickoff and punt return dept. FLA. gets at least 7 pts just off special teams superiority.
Predication Gators 45 OU 27
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 12:32 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners,
UGA won its bowl game by 2 scores since you brought it up. Missouri escaped against Northwestern, and Oklahoma St got whipped in the 2nd half against Oregon, TT lost to Ole Miss by 2 scores. Texas needed a come from behind TD against sorry Ohio St. to avoid an embarrasing loss
That’s 4 of the top 5 teams in your conference and none of them were impressive in their bowl games. They did nothing to show they were the best conference in the land. That only leaves Oklahoma… and the leg the SEC has to stand on? This will be the 3rd straight year with the BCS title if UF wins and a total of 5. That isn’t a leg, that’s a concrete pillar to stand on!
By Anonymous
January 7, 2009 12:34 PM | Link to this
Hey OU fans:
Would you like some hot sauce and beer to help with all the crow you’re going to be eating on Friday?
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 12:36 PM | Link to this
The Rifleman,
I am an LSU fan…not Florida. Personally I have no vested interest at all in who wins, no matter who it is. The conversation was about the outcome of the game and how it would play out. If Florida loses, I could really care less. I just don’t think they will lose, that’s all.
By Bulldog Dad
January 7, 2009 12:40 PM | Link to this
I’m pulling for the Sooners because Georgians hate anything that comes out of Florida. However, I don’t see Oklahome scoring more than 24 against Fl. It could be a closer game….27-24 Florida.
PS: CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY TEXAS ISN’T PLAYING FLORIDA?
By Georgia Fan
January 7, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this
The Rifleman, I personally am not cheering for anyone. I would love to see Florida humiliated, but its not going to happen. If anybody gets humiliated it will be the Chokelahoma Sooners. They are the biggest fraud in BCS history. They have never made it to one of these championship games without some other team getting royally screwed over. They don’t belong there, and this fact is reflected in the final scores. And I haven’t even mentioned the Sooners embarassing performance in other BCS games.
Say what you will, but Florida has put together some very impressive games this year in the SEC against some good teams. I’m not sure Chokelahoma has faced the same kind of balanced and talented teams that Florida has. That doesn’t mean I am “cheering for” Florida. That’s just my opinion. I think Chokelahoma has benefitted from pitiful Big 12 defenses and has not seen the kind of offense that Florida runs. In a nutshell, I think the hyped up media darling Chokelahoma Sooners are overrated once again.
Just my opinion bro. Go Sooners!!! Whatever. It isn’t going to help them any.
By The Rifleman
January 7, 2009 12:42 PM | Link to this
I don’t know what is more pitiful, Bama12titles. The fact that you are pulling for Florida or the fact that you actually think Bama has 12 titles.
Jeez!!!
By Dawg of Pleasure
January 7, 2009 12:43 PM | Link to this
Steve:
Couldn’t agree more that the random day selected for the title game undermines what should be a “Super Bowl” type feel.
What’s with Thursday night AFTER all the holidays? All year Thursday night football is a nice little lark on ESPN. Now it’s THE night for the biggest college football game of the year??
Hell, why not just have the game on Tuesday morning and be done with it.
Also, what’s with having 2nd and 3rd tier bowl games on after New Years Day?
BTW, UF wins this and dawg fans never live it down. 2 in 3 years - lord help us all.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 12:44 PM | Link to this
So far in bowl games: SEC 5-2 Big 12 4-2
Wow the SEC is so much better!
Enough about bowl games, the regular season is supposed to count.
Big 12’s SOS’s much harder than the SEC’s, FACT!!
By mcdawg
January 7, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this
i’m with most peopl eon these Big 12 defenses-UGA would have shreded that Texas defense (but theirOffense would killed us)—the OU O-line is another story, UF is going to have to put some pts on the board
UF 38 OU 28
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 12:50 PM | Link to this
BAMA12Titles, you are the dictionary definition of an SEC homer, you lost to UTAH and are coming up with excuses as to why?? And on top of that you are going to claim how great the SEC is when your team lost to a NON-BCS team?? What in the hell is wrong with you?? Bama went undefeated in their regular season but lost to Utah in the bowl game, sounds like Utah could beat anybody in the SEC
By gatorsrule
January 7, 2009 12:52 PM | Link to this
the tiny 12 has no defense…ole miss slaughtered texas tech and texas lucked out over weak ohio state…GATORS ROLL BIG!!!!!!!!CHOMP CHOMP
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 12:56 PM | Link to this
Georgia Fan, you haven’t won a national championship since 1980 and have won 2 conference championships since then, and you are going to hate on the Sooners?
By Mack Brown
January 7, 2009 12:57 PM | Link to this
UF earned their way into the SEC title game. OU was given a gift by the ESPN hype-machine. Should be UT vs UF in the title game. You know it, I know it, Bob Stoops knows it.
By WTF???
January 7, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this
I hope someone TEABAGS TEBOW!!!!!
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this
Mack Brown, HAHAHA, No Tx shouldn’t be there, there was a 3 way tie in the Big 12 South, and TX wasn’t the best of the 3, and head to head doesn’t work when there are 3 teams involved, very sorry. Great game against Ohio State, everyone on this blog was really impressed, hahahaha
By Georgia Fan
January 7, 2009 1:06 PM | Link to this
“Georgia Fan, you haven’t won a national championship since 1980 and have won 2 conference championships since then, and you are going to hate on the Sooners?”
They told us last year that we couldn’t get in because we didn’t win our conference. Chokelahoma backed in to the title game in ‘03 after it didn’t win its conference. What gives? Anyway, I hear Jason White still has an LSU defender’s cleat implanted firmly in his a$$. Go Sooners!!!
By Chuck Norris
January 7, 2009 1:13 PM | Link to this
I am tired of Tim Tebow stealing my fame and glory….and no, the rumors aren’t true, Tebow still wears my pajamas to bed, not the other way around. On Thursday night he will come to know the force of the Chuckster, as I have passed on my roundhouse kicks to the Sooners!!!
By GT student
January 7, 2009 1:16 PM | Link to this
I dont know who I want to win…i would love oklahoma to win so the SEC fans cant talk about the bcs title…..despite the buttwhooping that Utah laid on a team that went 8-0 versus the SEC in the regular season…the SEC fans will still talk trash. But then again after i graduate from GT im going to UF for law school and love the gators cause theyn always put UGA in their place year after year. Why cant they just tie??
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 1:18 PM | Link to this
Jesus, I never believed SEC fans were the worst until now, we have on here a UGA fan and a BAMA fan talking s**t after their humiliating seasons. UGA fans must still be under the impression of the preseason #1.
Nice talking with you kids, as I said i have a lot of respect for the SEC (as of today that respect is slowly fading) but moving on FL is a great team and has a great head coach so good luck…
By Tim Tebow
January 7, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this
Hey Chuck,
There is no Ctrl button on my computer, because Tim Tebow is always in control!
IT’S GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!
By Mack Brown
January 7, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this
The only reason I can figure that the Sooners were awarded the title game AGAIN (the only team that doesn’t need to win it’s conference to get into the game. Well, them and Nebraska actually) is that Fox is hyping the new American Idol season and since Sanjaya plays QB for OU, it’s a natural promo type thing.
By Honest Dawg
January 7, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this
Michigan scored over 40 points on FL last year, i have a hard time figuring out how much better FL’s defense can get in 1 year to stop the best offense in the country
Trust me “Go Sooners”, They are much better.
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 1:36 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners,
You are a very comical guy with an incredibly short memory. Hard to believe you have the audacity to rag on me after losing to Utah. What’s wrong with me? What’s wrong with you?
Did you forget about losing to nonbcs conference Boise State 2 years ago? And you’re busting on me for losing to Utah? Unfreakingbelievable. Do you have Dementia? Or do you have dementia only when it applies to Sooners losses?
You’re saying bama and Georgia had humiliating seasons? Huh? Come again? 10 and 12 game winning seasons are humiliating? Really?
Lets talk about humiliation. Yeah, we lost to a fine Utah team. Got our butts kicked. No excuses here. Is that any more humiliating than losing to Boise? How about losing 48-27 to West Viriginia. Isn’t that humiliation? Worst yet how about 55-19 butt raping at the hands of USC? And you gonna talk smack to me about being humiliated after a 12 win season and one bad loss? And don’t even try to say Florida was a bad loss. We led the game in the 4th qtr and they rallied behind a superman effort from Tebow to win by 11. I guarantee that’s a lot closer game than what you will give the gators if the performance of the big 12 south in the bowl games is any indication. You are a piece of work.
By Cynic
January 7, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Bulldog Dad:
“……Georgians hate anything that comes out of Florida.”
Speak for yourself.
Not all Georgians harbor an irrational hatred toward a state, its people or a fellow member of the SEC that’s defending said conference in the national championship game so that your team can effectively recruit against the Big 12, the ACC, the Big East, Big 10, PAC 10 and , yes, even the Mountain West.
By sooner
January 7, 2009 1:40 PM | Link to this
PS: CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY TEXAS ISN’T PLAYING FLORIDA?
Becasue they lost to Texas Tech.
By BILLY JACK
January 7, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this
RIFLEMAN-GEORGIA FOLKS HAVE ALOT OF GUTS-BY THE WAY WE PLAY FLA EVERY YEAR-YOUR WELCOME TO PLAY THEM OUT OF CONFERENCE ANY TIME .WE DONT LIKE THEM THEY DONT LIKE US BUT WE PULL FOR THE CONFERENCE.WE HAVE ONLY BEATEN THEM TWICE SINCE 2001 NOT MANY TEAMS HAVE DONE MUCH BETTER.DO YOU KNOW WHAT IM SAYING????WELL YOU WILL TOMMOROW NIGHT.
By Gman
January 7, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this
Go get ‘em Bama12titles
I like it when you are on our side
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this
The rifleman,
I don’t know why you think its pitiful that I pull for a fellow sec brother like UF to win the national title. Speaking of pitiful. How about you guys only beating us twice in your own stadium since 1969. What’s the count 2 wins in 18 tries against us. And to think you call tiger stadium death valley. We bama fans call it our home away from home.
Incidentally, maybe we really don’t have 12 ncs. Some people say its really only 11 consensus titles and some say its only 9. Eeither way its a heckuva lot more than the 3 that you have.
Jeeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Cynic
January 7, 2009 1:55 PM | Link to this
sooner:
You’re an idiot.
Let’s recap:
Texas beat Oklahoma at a neutral site;
Texas Tech beat Texas with a last second prayer pass; and
Oklahoma beat Texas Tech on its home field.
How can you claim conference superiority with a clear conscience?
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this
Bama12Titles, you are a DORK:
OU’s loss to Boise St: OU had 3 losses that year so they weren’t a great team at all, and we had a receiver playing QB for us. Game went into OT
Bama’s loss to Utah: Bama had 1 loss this year and a healthy JPW playing QB and the game ended without going to OT, hell did Bama ever even lead in that game?
Don’t compare the 2 losses Bama’s was much worse, you stole the humility from OU with your loss to UTAH now the spot light is on you, enjoy!
In regards to your comment about OU’s other losses in bowl games and NC’s, s**t at least we make it there, when was the last time you could even compete at that level, i will answer that for you, 1992.
OU beat Bama 3 or 4 years ago!!!!
By Tim Tebow
January 7, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this
I promise, that win, lose, or draw I will not cry on national TV again! I will save the crying for the Phillipino children I circumsized in the off-season!
By Mack Brown
January 7, 2009 1:57 PM | Link to this
Yes “Go Sooners” we lost to TT in the last seconds at their place. We had one loss.
You lost to us on a neutral field by 10. You had one loss.
We both had one loss and were highly ranked. You lost to us head to head kind of a no-brainer.
Congrats though. You’ve been given a gift. Try not to f**k it up.
Really should’ve been a pretty simple decision. UT vs UF
Stoops is one of Herbstreit’s boys though.
By Class of '98
January 7, 2009 1:58 PM | Link to this
Tony, Florida’s offense is “affected”, not “effected”.
Sorry, that’s a little pet peeve of mine.
By Peadawg
January 7, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this
This game doesn’t even matter…I won’t be watching. The BSCS is exactly that…bull shyt. Utah is the national champion end of story, period.
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 2:03 PM | Link to this
Perhaps you have The Rifleman and I confused. He didn’t say anything about LSU. I DID!!!
Simmer down, you beat LSU once since 2002 and now your ready to walk around with your chest puffed out,lol. And to be perfectly honest, Jarrett Lee was Bama’s MVP in that game. As he was for several of LSU’s opponents this season, UGA included. Enjoy your 12 win season, it won’t happen again next year.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this
You ignorant rednecks just don’t get it, the Big XII is & always will be infinitely superior to your trailer trash teams & fans. As soon as you get electricity you’ll realize this.
As for Tebow & Harvin, McCoy will single-handedly destroy that overrated Gaytor offense & we’ll all see real Big XII defense & enjoy listening to Urban Whiner, LMAO!
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this
You ignorant rednecks just don’t get it, the Big XII is & always will be infinitely superior to your trailer trash teams & fans. As soon as you get electricity you’ll realize this.
As for Tebow & Harvin, McCoy will single-handedly destroy that overrated Gaytor offense & we’ll all see real Big XII defense & enjoy listening to Urban Whiner, LMAO!
By BILLY JACK
January 7, 2009 2:06 PM | Link to this
HEY TIM-MAKING FUN OF TEBOW FOR HELPING POOR KIDS-DAMN THATS COLD-YOU SHOULD PROBABLY PRAY TONIGHT THAT YOU DONT GET STRUCK BY LIGHTNING OR A TORNADO DOES NOT LAND ON YOUR HOUSE-JUST FYI
By StingerSplash
January 7, 2009 2:08 PM | Link to this
Tony,
I hope I haven’t missed it, but I was hoping to see if you would weigh in on what could have a bigger impact in college football today — BC firing Jeff Jagodzinski. Not that the BC opening is that great (good, not great), but a college administration finally telling a coach that if you are going to sneak around for another job and welsh on your commitment to us and these players, you can do that on your time, thank you. Is this a harbinger of things to come? Or an isolated incident? What do your coaching friends/contacts have to say about this? And when was the last time a game for a national championship getting this little attention (not because of Coach Jags, mind you, but ESPN - since the ABC/ESPN family had the Rose Bowl - has devoted twice the time to that less significant game than, you know, the game where the winner will be declared a national champion. By somebody.)
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:08 PM | Link to this
I found my new blog, i will be here from now on even if OU loses. None of the FL fans are on here talking s**t its just the rest of the watered down SEC fans, good times!
Mack Brown, don’t you think it’s a good thing you aren’t playing FL since you could barely beat Ohio State? You shouldn’t even have won that game.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:15 PM | Link to this
the above bold comments are not mine, first day on here and someone is already pretending to be me, HA!
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 2:16 PM | Link to this
Go sooners,
Justify it any way you want. Whether losing by 1 or 2 pts to Boise you still freaking lost and now you sorry butt is reduced to talking about margin of victory blah blah and making excuses for 48-27 and 55-19 buttkickings. A 14 pt loss is not the same as losing by 48-27 or 55-19
Did you guys back into 1 title game already after getting blasted in the big 12 title game 35-7 by k-state several years ago? Was that you when you played LSU?If so its hard to bring about title game appearances when you keep backing into them.
And you shouldn’t be there this year after Texas whipped you by 10. What a fraud and how many times can you back into a big game.
BTW, where were you from say the latE 80s until the late 90s?
BTW, how does it feel to know that Oklahomans can’t really field a football team. Over half the team is from Texas. We’ll just call you guys Texas Lite.
Incidentally you beat us in probation years in early 2000s. Glad to see you could do what every one else was doing and beat a team playing with 21 fewer scholarship players. Now lets see what you can do against the gators. Judging by what you did against USC it won’t be much.
By Tim Tebow
January 7, 2009 2:20 PM | Link to this
BILLY JACK,
I fear no man, except for Chuck Norris! When I cry, I do it, because Chuck Norris can’t shed tears.
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 2:22 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners,
Is a guy from Oklahoma REALLY calling someone else a redneck??? Especially when Toby Keith is on the sideline at every OU game!!!
By The SEC
January 7, 2009 2:24 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners,
Yeah, the Big 12 is real cosmo.
Been to Norman, OK. Sorry to break it to you but it’s not exactly Rome.
Been to Lubbock too. I’m pretty sure Starkville has that one beat.
By BILLY JACK
January 7, 2009 2:27 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners-you are clearly a MORON our sixth best team just stomped your 3rd best team in the cotton bowl.Our 1st is getting ready to stomp your second tommorow night-texas should be playing,you remember that game in Dallas right?Dude get back to your Big 12 blog,your overmatched on this one.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:28 PM | Link to this
Bama12titles, Call OU whatever you want, it doesn’t make a differnce to me, the greatest college football players come out of TX, that is college football heaven, ask Stafford! Are you having to resort to taking players from another state as to why you are hating on OU, you can’t come up with anything else? Guess what genius all other teams do it as well, its called recruiting!
By T Boone Pickens
January 7, 2009 2:28 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners: Just hit the post button once Einstein. Your comments aren’t exactly worth repeating.
As a big fan of natural gas, I enjoy reading your stuff.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:31 PM | Link to this
Hey TigerinATL
At least Toby Keith has teeth, unlike your family.
Q: What’s the most confusing day in Baton Rouge?
A: Father’s Day
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:33 PM | Link to this
Since we have moved onto bashing states instead of bashing eachothers football teams, At least people in the mid west aren’t sill complaining about losing the Civil War, alot of people in the South still act like its going on, i don’t see how you can get more red neck than that!
By Bear Bryant
January 7, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this
Bama was relevant when I was still around….unfortunately most of my fans have a hard time letting go of the past. The University of Alabama only matters, well, in Alabama. Everyone else recognizes they aren’t ready for primetime!
Boats n’ Ho’s!!!
By Eagledog
January 7, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this
The Sooners big mouth what’s-his-name really put his cleats in his mouth and gave Tebow the very last thing OK needed him to have. More determination to prove he is still the best player in college football.
By Randy Jackson
January 7, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this
I didn’t know Sanjaya Bradford was from Texas.
www.cracked.com/article15251american-idol-s…
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this
Billy Jack, TX Tech sucks i stated that above, please pay attention. Funny how you seem to have forgotten TX beat the snot out of Arkansas
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this
Hey Go Sooners I mean Texas Lite,
Looky here Texas Lite. It really makes no difference to me where you get your players. I’m just busting on you a little bit because the few sooner fans I know its a sore spot with them that their team really is a lighter shade of Texas.
BTW, I don’t even hate OU. I grew up and used to like OU because they were crimson like Bama, they were the only other team that ran the wishbone, and we never played them. When I was a kid they were actually my 2nd favorite team behind bama as hard as that may be for you to believe.
I just had to start busting on you once you started taking digs at Bama. That’s all. That and although I know you disagree I just don’t think OU has a chance given the performance of the big 12 south so far. Be honest with yourself. 2 of your 3 teams big 12 south teams took whippings and you said yourself Texas shouldn’t have beaten OSU from the 1-6 Big 10. If you look at it objectively it just doesn’t bode well for OU. That’s all.
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 2:43 PM | Link to this
I don’t really get the father’s day joke. That might be a problem in Kentucky, but not in Louisiana.
Just keep singing “I’m not as good as I once was”
That could be OU’s theme song!!!
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:45 PM | Link to this
BILLY JACK, you said Ole Miss was your 6th best team, how do you figure, they beat FL? Again no TX doesn’t belong in the NC, you all complain about me having to repeat myself but if you would listen the first time i wouldn’t have to
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this
To the idiot posting as bear bryant,
Seems to me the only people that bring up bear bryant are rival fans of Bama. The man has been dead 25 years now and you would have to be in your mid 40s to remember bama under bryant with any clarity. Its actually rival fans like yourself that just can’t seem to let it go.
We let it go in the 90s as the 5th winningest program of that decade with 1 nc and 2 sec titles. If a Bama fan reminisces about old days he’s thinking about the glory years under Stallings and not the bear. If you knew a little more about football you would know that.
Maybe we didn’t get it done in the seccg but 12 wins with the smallest senior class in the country says we are ready for prime time and will be for years to come. You just need to get over your jealousy and deal with it. Its coming and there aint nothing you can do about it so just get used to it.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:50 PM | Link to this
Bama12Titles, it’s all in fun on my side too.
Look at this way, during the regular season the BIG 12 North was awful, but they won all of their bowl games.
The Big 12 South during the regular season received all the hype and everyone of them lost except TX.
I don’t get it either, other than any team can win on any given day as we have seen with OU/Boise St and Bama/Utah
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 2:51 PM | Link to this
Good ole’ Oklahoma….
Where it’s illegal to have the hind legs of farm animals in your boots and molesting an automobile will land you in jail.
That sounds like a place seething of intellectual promise. If father’s day is confusing in Baton Rouge, do they have Sheep day in Sooner land?
By Mack Brown
January 7, 2009 2:51 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners:
You come by this premature boasting honestly:
People who entered the Oklahoma territory to lay claim to lands, before the designated entry time, were called “Sooners.” The name came from a section in the Indian Appropriations Act of March 2, 1889, that said that nobody would be permitted to enter upon and occupy the land before the time designated, and that those that did would be denied rights to the land. This section became known as the “sooner clause.”
The NCAA should adopt a Sooner clause to keep the undeserving out of the Title Game.
On who wins the title of reddest neck: Oklahoma combined two Choctaw words, “ukla” meaning person and “humá” meaning red to form the word that first appears in a 1866 Choctaw treaty. Oklahoma means “red person.”
If the shoe fits….
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this
Someone has stolen my name, I didn’t even realize there were other OU fans living in ATL, HA!
By Gman
January 7, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this
Bama12:
The ‘79 Sugar Bowl was on ESPN classic this AM. The Bear looked good.
By Bear Bryant
January 7, 2009 2:56 PM | Link to this
Just curious bama12titles,
Does that mean that the fans in the stands at Bryant-Denny stadium cheer for the road team? Cuz I swear everytime a camera pans through the crowd I see those sexy blondes wearing the same hat I used to wear when I was patrolling the sidelines. I sure wish those pretty young things went to Bama when I was there, I’d have broken a hip trying to get in the sack with them!!!
By BILLY JACK
January 7, 2009 2:57 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners-Didnt TEX TECH beat Texas?They couldnt suck too bad plus if Stafford wanted to go to college in Texas he could.He wanted to play in the best conference and thats what he did.It worked out well because he will be a millionaire many times over.Im not saying that hs football in texas is not good Im just saying hs football in the southeast is just as good especially GA and FLA hs football.Remember our motto in the southeast YOU EITHER HAVE SPEED OR YOUR CHASING IT!Enjoy the game tommorow night FLA56 OK28
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 3:04 PM | Link to this
Mack Brown, You actually make me laugh, the red that comes from Indians is much different than the red that comes from “red neck”. Last time i checked your traditional red neck in todays world has a mullet and dates family. Indians on the other hand are in a totally different category, i think i should stop there since i probably already confused you.
By BILLY JACK
January 7, 2009 3:05 PM | Link to this
Go Sooners-just because OLE MISS beat FLA you kinda have to beat all the other SEC teams and they didnt 4 times.
By Wilson
January 7, 2009 3:06 PM | Link to this
Florida 52-28
By Schoonerlicious
January 7, 2009 3:06 PM | Link to this
What he have here ladies and gentlemen is two great teams with great coaching staffs meeting for the championship tomorrow night. Florida isn’t as good as USC was in 2005 and the Sooners are better than they were that year. Comparisons, comschmarisons. These teams have both had a month off and ANYTHING can happen after that.
The third quarter is everything! Whichever team makes the best adjustments will win and there will likely be an unsung hero who didn’t play that much this season mixed in there with all the superstars. The fourth quarter will be a coast home for the new champ which, as much as it is unpleasant to say, will in all likelihood be the Gators.
As for ‘m’ and others posting about play-offs: Regardless of the Sooners’ status, the only way I would agree to an NCAA D1 College football playoff is if someone can keep it from cheapening the regular season games. I don’t know what tickets cost for Florida games but OU tickets cost entirely too much not to see a team’s best effort EVERY week, whether they’ve made the playoffs already or not. Otherwise, the NCAA will just be WNBA to the NFL.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 3:08 PM | Link to this
Billy Jack, you must not have watched the TX vs. TX tech game, Tech got lucky on a last minute play, where a TX freshman DB forgot how to tackle, check it out its all over ESPN
By Mack Brown
January 7, 2009 3:08 PM | Link to this
Understand your confusion Go Sooners. The last time I saw your team and coach they looked completely lost.
By Go Sooners
January 7, 2009 3:09 PM | Link to this
Top redneck movies of all time
Any Smokey & the Bandit movie
Walking Tall
Billy Jack
By Anonymous
January 7, 2009 3:22 PM | Link to this
Mack Brown:
Regarding your 2:51 post:
Now THAT’S funny!
I’m laughing my ( ! ) off!
By Sooner at Heart
January 7, 2009 3:23 PM | Link to this
I’m from southern Mississippi, and I’m a die-hard Sooner fan. I guess there’s only one way to say this: Oklahoma has this one in the bag!!
OU: 45 UF: 27
BOOMER SOONER!!!!
By ROC
January 7, 2009 3:29 PM | Link to this
Once the Gators tatoo Sam a few times, you will not see many completions.
By Dave In Tampa
January 7, 2009 3:38 PM | Link to this
As much as I dislike like SOME of the Gator fans that appear on these blogs I can’t say that they will loose. I think they will win by 10 or 14.
Sooners have not played against a better than average defense all year that is as quick and it will surprise them.
What do I know, I’m a Bulldog ; ) ha ha
By Bulldog Dad
January 7, 2009 3:38 PM | Link to this
Being a Bulldog fan I have to scoff at anything coming out of FL. However, I think their defense will slow down the Sooners and make it a closer game; 27-24 Florida. PS: Can someone tell me why Texas isn’t playing Florida?
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this
bear bryant,
The camera always seems to find the 2 lovely blonde twins wearing the houndstooth hats and I’m always happy to see them even if they are obviously too young to have ever seen the bear in person. Keep in mind that in a stadium of 92,000(soon to be expanded to 101,000) that a handful of people like to wear the houndstooth as a symbol of the fact that arguably the greatest college coach of all time coached there. Nothing wrong with that and nope, it doesn’t mean we live in the past or that we have to go digging up the bear. Don’t know who your team is but if you had a legacy like that you would understand but since you probably don’t then you probably won’t understand. Its the same principle as a city or town or washington dc having war memorials. Doesn’t mean people live in the past just because they visit a war memorial or a city erects a statue of a bygone war hero. It just means that city, country, or whatever is proud of that legacy or that it pays tribute once in awhile to a great event, leader, or sacrifice Get it? now put away the bear. He’s dead already.
By Bear Bryant
January 7, 2009 4:01 PM | Link to this
Dead?
The only thing deader than I am is Alabama’s title hopes. You should never had hired that snake Saban. I have officially put a curse on you. You’ll never win a title with him around!!!! You think the curse of the Bambino was bad for Boston? You ain’t seen nothing yet!!!
By Cynic
January 7, 2009 4:02 PM | Link to this
Bulldog Dad:
Scoff all you want.
The Gators still own your a$$!
By Playoffs?
January 7, 2009 4:06 PM | Link to this
Does having playoffs diminish or hurt the regular season in the NFL?
Or college basketball? or any other sport for that matter?
Schoonerlicious, that has to be the dumbest remark about playoffs in college I have every heard.
Maybe we should just keep what we have. That way, we can keep having mythical national champions year after year, after year.
There are ways to have playoffs and keep the integrity of the regular season intact. You should hang out with the Pac-10 commissioner, you guys would get along great!
By Bulldog Dad
January 7, 2009 4:06 PM | Link to this
Forget the school boy emotion. If you’re a football fan you understand that the strength of your schedule is a vital statistic. Florida had twice the schedule the Sooners did. I see the farm boys with a 7-5 record in the same league. Also, TEXAS BEAT OKLAHOMA! If Oklahoma pulls one off and wins, Texas becomes #3. Where’s the sense in that? Sorry, but with the number of colleges competing for the title shot…once you lose…it’s over.
By Dawgzilla
January 7, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this
Thanks Cynic. We are aware of that.
You are preparing for another national title game.
95% of our 2008 offense just went pro.
Our programs are going in opposite directions.
By G8R GRAD
January 7, 2009 4:11 PM | Link to this
This seen in the Orlando Sentinel today:
“Craig Howard, who coached quarterback Tim Tebow at Nease High School in the Jacksonville area, told the Sentinel he believes Tebow will return to Florida for his senior season and bypass the NFL draft.”
Read it and weep.
And … GO GATORS!
By Anonymous
January 7, 2009 4:13 PM | Link to this
Hey Bear:
You and that stupid hat need to go back to sleep.
By Cynic
January 7, 2009 4:17 PM | Link to this
Sorry Dawgzilla.
My post was aimed at Bulldog Dad for spewing idiotic hatred in his 12:40 post.
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 4:21 PM | Link to this
Bear Bryant imposter,
Can’t understand your venom towards Saban. You must be an LSU fan. Even then I can’t understand why on earth LSU fans hate him. He resurrected a doormat of a program(8 losing seasons in 11 years pre-Saban) and even last years LSU team won a bcs title with 17 of their 22 starters being Saban recruits.
Why all the hate after all that man did for LSU? All the man did was take the next logical step to the NFL. He realized the pros weren’t for him and went back to college where the Bama job was open.
As for his departure from Miami he admitted he could have handled it better but the bottom line is that he left on good terms with Dolphins owner Wayne Hiuzenga. The controversy over his departure was largely media generated because he initially wasn’t interested in the Bama job and refused to talk to bama. His agent came Bama patient till after the pro season was over because he knew Saban would be approachable but only after the NFL season was over. All the man did was change his mind after the season was over. So why you calling the man a snake?
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 4:24 PM | Link to this
G8R Grad,
So Tebow is coming back for sure? Sucks for the rest of us but hopefully Harvin will leave early. Gotta keep the balance of power from getting out of whack. You understand right?
By GT
January 7, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this
The Utah thing throws this back into a contest. I was not impressed with Texas and its win over OSU, but Utah played a tigher game against TCU than Alabama. Utah looked to have the second best defense on the field against TCU which was beating them most of the game. TCU was totally beaten by Ok. which TCU had beaten four years ago with about the same team. Great improvement of OK even without Peterson, a lot because they now have a quarterback. I am beginning to see OK win this thing.
By G8R GRAD
January 7, 2009 4:35 PM | Link to this
bama12titles:
Happy New Year, my friend.
No, it’s far from a sure thing. Only Tim, his parents and his coach know what’s going to happen between now and the 15th. But since he has been projected to go no higher than the 5th or 6th round and niehter he nor his family need the money, I suspect he’ll stay and try for a possible threepeat as National Champion.
Harvin, on the other hand is probably gone. He needs a stellar night against the #1 team in the nation to crown his junior year accomplshments and I think he’ll get it.
By G8R GRAD
January 7, 2009 4:46 PM | Link to this
Oh, and for the record bama12titles, the youth and depth of your bench is the scariest part of next year’s prospects.
We’ll see you next year in Atlanta.
And God help us.
By bama12titles
January 7, 2009 4:50 PM | Link to this
G8r Grad,
Happy new year. I’m thinking it depends a lot on the OU game. If UF loses he stays but if they win over OU then maybe he does go. He wouldn’t have anything left to prove and he would have his own nc instead of one that he was a role player but not the full time qb on. If UF loses then he still has his own nc to fulfill.
I can’t fathom him going 5th or 6th round. I know he doesn’t have the cannon arm that Tebow has but he has all the other intangibles, especially leadership. I don’t need to tell you just how accurate he was in the Bama game. On the 3 3rd down td passes we had the guy covered every time but he put the ball exactly where only the receiver could have gotten it. The bomb he threw to his roommate was dead on the money too. I can see him going mid 1st round but are you sure about him only going 5th or 6th round? That just sounds crazy.
By Voice of Reason
January 7, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this
I bet there are no more comments from go sooners on here after the whippin they take from florida. lol. 38-17 Fla.
By BILLY JACK
January 7, 2009 4:53 PM | Link to this
DAWGZILLA-CALM DOWN- UGA WILL BE FINE-MAY EVEN HAVE BETTER CHEMISTRY -WE WILL HAVE A BETTER SEASON NEXT YEAR.THE TEAM IS LOADED -WATCH AND SEE.IF WE LIMIT THE INJURIES- IT WILL BE A BETTER TEAM.
By G8R GRAD
January 7, 2009 5:13 PM | Link to this
bama12titles:
That’s what those who say they know what’s going on with this year’s prospects. His release is his achilles heel. The prognosticators were saying that if he goes this year, he’ll be drafted as a half-back or tight end, not a QB. He wants to play QB - I think he thinks that if he works on quickening his release and has another good (!) year he’ll stand a better chance next year. Besides, with the looming 2010 salary cap, the draft is replete with good QB’s this year and, as I said earlier, it’s not about the money.
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 5:25 PM | Link to this
Tebow is not a 1st rd pick. Spread “system” qb’s do not transition well in the NFL. The reads are totally different. I don’t know if he falls all the way to the 6th rd, because he is a great athlete and can do a bunch of things to help a team. But you don’t spend a 1st rd pick on a project that you aren’t sure what position to play him at or what he’ll do.
I think he can play H-back and come in at qb in packages designed for him. The “wildcat” is catching on in the NFL, but there is no way he’ll ever be a full time qb. He has taken a total of what, like 5 snaps under center in his career? He doesn’t know the timing and footwork involved on 3, 5, and 7 step drop passing routes. Play action is alot different too, when under center you have to turn your back to the LOS, you don’t just stand there and stick the ball out while the back runs by as it is in the spread.
See Vince Young and Alex Smith as examples. He would have to re-learn the position all over again to play at the pro-level.
By TigerinATL
January 7, 2009 5:27 PM | Link to this
BILLY JACK,
Is UGA loaded like they were in 08? Cuz that “loaded” team worked out real well this year didn’t it?
By ES
January 7, 2009 5:38 PM | Link to this
Can’t wait to see Ok against 4.69 Janoris Jenkins,Its going to be fun.Fl wins by 2 TD’s tho because only Texas had somewhat of a D in the Big 12.The D numbers for Fl looks good because of the drop off at QB in the SEC this year!They will be exsposed!!!!!!!!!!
By RC
January 7, 2009 8:35 PM | Link to this
Hello SEC fans,
Just a reminder that you only one 40% of your games vs Automatic Qualifer teams. Compare that to a 64% number by the Mountain West Conference.
Utah #1
Florida at FSU W Georgia at Ariz. St. W Kentucky at Louisville W S. Carolina Home NCSU W Arkansas at Texas L Auburn at WVU L Georgia Home GT L Miss St. at GT L Ole Miss at Wake Forest L S. Carolina at Clemson L Tennessee at UCLA L Vanderbilt Home Duke L Vanderbilt at Wake Forest L
By williambrado
January 7, 2009 10:05 PM | Link to this
Utah beat a crippled Alabama team with there main front line absent. So don’t spew to much about Utahs abilities. You will see Florida win big in the National championship. I’m a Ga fan so i pull for anybody Florida Plays. Go Sooners! I hope they TEbone tebow. Stop Teebow and Harbin and Florida is whipped.
By RC
January 7, 2009 10:36 PM | Link to this
Wa Wa!
Utah beat a storied program with top recruits; a National Champion coach; and they played them in the heart of SEC country.
All you SEC fans said there is no way Utah could have won. But they did; and was not even close.
Last I checked, Alabama’s O-lineman does not play defense.
The SEC teams refuse to travel; and when they do they typically lose.
40% against other Automatic Qualifiers. Wow! That stinks. The MWC won 64%.
When the SEC starts playing out of conference teams on a home & home basis; and wins the games. Then I will respect them.
I will give you all this, you have the best fans; and the greatest game day atmosphere. But, not the best on-the-field product. Last year, yes (undisputed). But not this year (40% is lousy).
If you check the stats you will find that the SEC rarely wins more than 50% of its games against other Automatic Qualifiers (2007 was the exception).
What you guys do is pack the house; play a lot of games agaist low-level teams at home; pad your schedule; and then claim that you have to play weaker teams “because we beat up on each other”. Just because you sell-out your games does not mean you have the best teams.
Good luck to Florida.
But regardless of the outcome, Utah is #1.
And no, I am not a Utah alumni or fan. I just despise the BCS cartel and how an amature sport is run by big money.
By BravesFan79
January 7, 2009 10:49 PM | Link to this
Oyea… lets all talk about the most MEANINGLESS championship game of all the sports. I mean heck even the WNBA has a REAL champ!!
Utah # 1 !!!
By BravesFan79
January 7, 2009 11:05 PM | Link to this
Theres one thing we ALL can agree upon here on this blog. The BCS blows and is unfair to 70% of the teams in land. Until all you fools stop your bickering… and turn your attention to the REAL problem… nothing will ever change and your sport will always be a JOKE!
GO Falcons, Braves, GT, and UGA!
By Schoonerlicious
January 8, 2009 12:34 AM | Link to this
Ok BravesFan79, Please pardon this humble dissenting opinion but as I posted earlier today, I am not in favor of a D1 football playoff until I can be assured a team which has earned a playoff spot after 10 or 11 regular season games isn’t going to bench its starters early ala NFL, and tank the last two games so no one gets hurt. Fans of the college game should expect much better than that from the programs they support.
That “Playoffs?” is the problem with the NFL. Get home field advantage, sit your starters as much as possible so you can be healthy in a playoff game, then lose to an inferior club. Happens every year and some fan wanders into the parking lot afterward wondering why they came to the stadium to see Roger Staubach win and got 3 quarters of Danny White and a loss instead.
There will always be some 9th, 17th or 25th team that says they belong there and if there’s a playoff system in the future, a bunch of sportswriters will have to find something to talk about as the antiseptic sanitizes the entire championship experience into a bland professional style shadow of its current controversial self.
The WNBA has a playoff winning champ but the point I was trying to make in the post above is the league isn’t nearly as strong interest or fanwise to even come close to what’s going on in the NFL. A playoff in D1 football will be like Danny O’Shea in Little Giants. A little cutie but always second fiddle to the great Kevin O’Shea.
The last thing D1 football needs is an unappetizing, systematic deflavorization via a sterile elimination process. Not that the student-athletes are important in this sport but they could actually study and pass their final exams. What college football does need is the noteriety a big sloppy mess sportscasters and fans can spend months trying to clean up which sounds a lot like what we have now. So get your mops and let’s clean up that BCS spill on aisle 4 together!
By Stoops blows
January 8, 2009 1:07 AM | Link to this
Stoops blows another game running his current record to 0-5 in BCS bowls. He is clearly second to any one outside the Big 12, including Boise and the idiots there adore him.
By Sautee Dawg
January 8, 2009 8:02 AM | Link to this
Tony tonighs game depends on several things like who has the stronger will to win, lot depends on the QB’s Tebow is one of the best team leaders and game managers to come along in several years so, give the Gators the edge there. Bradfords probally the most accurate QB but hasn’t seen the kind of pressure he’ll see tonight. Difference is can he handle it? Gators D is tough to match up with. Meyer coaches the special teams and Gators by far have the best in that category, in my opinion. Maybe a close game but don’t see Oklahoma scoring 31. May be wrong. Officiating will have a lot to do with the game also, seems like every big game this year they come up with something to kinda keep the games from being embarrassing, example, Refs stopped a couple of scoring drives in the Utah vs Alabama game. Couple of holding calls against Utah that nobody saw except the Alabama faithful, Utah could have scored 2 more times. LSU vs GA. Tech, same in this game LSU flagged late in the 4th and could have scored 2 more times. Sometimes i think Tony this happens to keep the crowd in the stands and TV advertising has a lot to do with it too. Fans leave early there goes the popcorn sales, people get tired of watching a blowout on the tube, there goes the Dodge RAM truck commericals. Hate to target the officials but this season was one of the worst for them i can remember. The Texas OSU game was probally one of the best called games all year. I’m still thinking about that call Penn Wagers called against the Dawgs this season against Alabama. (“Holding against the defence before the snap”) Impossible!!! Didn’t have a change in the game because of it, Alabama whipped us coming out of the locker room to start the game with their preperation for the game. But for Wagers to stand at midfield and call this penalty and announce it on the intercom was a joke. Tony is that penalty possible? You’ve been around football for a long time as i have, have you ever heard it called? Enough ref bashing,guess they do the best they can considering these calls are made in seconds, maybe wagers just pronounced the call wrong and made the right call. Just never heard of it. Picking the Gators tonight 42-20. I know thats a lot of points but i believe Gators special teams and a couple of OK. turnovers make this game not so close.
By IM4BAMA
January 8, 2009 8:37 AM | Link to this
Go Sooners
You my friend, are a jerk and don’t know s**. You will learn a lot tonight.
I’m glad 12 titles has been trying to educate you, but nothing is better than seeing for yourself.
One last thing, we don’t make excuses for Bama’s loss. Period. I just wish the bashers would use some common sense and realize our we were missing two starting O-lineman. Trust me, that is the only reason Utah won. It would have been close still because they are good, but Bama would have won it without a doubt.
By Ted Striker
January 8, 2009 8:52 AM | Link to this
For all those looking forward to the game tonight — have fun. That said, the ranks of BCS viewers will shrink by at least 6 people this year.
Five friends are coming to my house for food, drinks, poker, and “no football.” No watching tv, no checking the score, no conversation about what might be happening. We don’t care.
Yes, we’re avid college football fans, but we’re sick of being powerless. If there will be no playoff, we won’t recognize the BCS championship.
Silly? Maybe. But we don’t care. The six of us (allegiance to 4 different teams) have pledged to boycott attending or watching the game till a playoff system is in place. It might be a while, it might be never, but there are plenty of football games to quench our appetite without the BCS money matchup.
From the 6 of us to the BCS: “Stick it”
By Playoffs?
January 8, 2009 9:51 AM | Link to this
Schoonerlicious,
You’re an idiot!!!!
You’re right, playoffs have ruined pro football. They have ruined every other sport out there. I sure am glad we have the BCS in college football so that way we have a clear and definitive national champions. Otherwise, a playoff system would lead to months of debate every year over who REALLY had the best team, instead of deciding it on the field. Thank God for the BCS!!! Dumb A$$
By typical bulldawg fan
January 8, 2009 11:44 AM | Link to this
Ted striker, see how well that works out for ya! You can p** and moan all you want, you aint changing the system!
By Schoonerlicious
January 8, 2009 2:39 PM | Link to this
Ted Striker, Please watch the game with your five friends tonight! If six viewers miss it, it could cause a butterfly effect resulting in earth quakes, tsunamis and who knows what all in LA, Austin and Utah. We’ll miss you. : )
“Playoffs?” During the game, you and my ex-wife should picket outside NCAA headquarters to get this madness ended. You share the same vocabulary and neither of you cares for football. : ) I’ll be watching the game with my PAC-10 buddies waiting for the playoff to begin.
By Ted Striker
January 8, 2009 3:50 PM | Link to this
Schoonerlicious —
I was banging your ex-wife before she was your ex-wife. (Pretty good lay, actually, almost as good as your current wife).
Love,
Ted
By Playoffs?
January 8, 2009 3:56 PM | Link to this
Have fun playing hide the weenie with your leather clad buddies out there on the west coast!