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DEL.ICIO.USGarner, Searels decisions speak volumes about Richt
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Just one man’s opinion as we prepare for the last game of the 2008 college football season:
1. The decisions by Garner, Searels, tell you volumes about Richt: The people who work in college football for a living will tell you that the most important quality a program can have, other than great players, is stability on the coaching staff. Hiring the wrong assistant coach or multiple assistants at the wrong time can put an otherwise decent program in the ditch. Just ask Auburn.
That is why, no matter who Georgia signs in February, head coach Mark Richt has already had a good recruiting season. The decisions by assistant head coach Rodney Garner and offensive line coach Stacy Searels, who turned down big money offers at Tennessee and Auburn to stay at Georgia, is a tribute to Richt and what he has built in Athens.
And while I’m at it, let me get this off my chest as we start the New Year. There is a reason that coaches work where they work and it’s not always about money. It’s about a quality of life. Garner and Searels like and respect the man they work for and they like the quality of life in Athens. In the “disappointment” of a 10-3 season there have been some on this blog who have tried the characterize Richt as some sort of choirboy who doesn’t have the gravitas to go head to head with the Urban Meyers and Nick Sabans of the world.
Gently put, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. And the decisions by Garner and Searles prove it.
2. Time to give Chizik some credit: I can’t think if a coaching hire that has been more widely second-guessed than Auburn’s decision to hire Gene Chizik. And yes, race was injected into the issue when Charles Barkley said what he said. But now it’s time to start giving the new head coach at Auburn some credit. He has made a couple of very inspired hires by bringing in Guz Malzahn as offensive coordinator and Trooper Taylor as assistant head coach. Taylor, who was one of Tennessee’s best recruiters before he went to Oklahoma State last season, is a great get for Auburn. He was a big reason why the Oklahoma State offense lit up the scoreboard this season.
My friend Kevin Scarbinsky of the Birmingham News pointed this out this morning but it bears repeating. Chizik has hired five assistant coaches thus far and four have been African-American. If you’re going to criticize Auburn for passing on Turner Gill as a head coach, you have to credit the school for having a diverse staff. Here is Kevin’s column.
3. Tennessee will have the highest paid staff in college football: Defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin will get a $1 million plus. Ed Orgeron, who is not even a coordinator, could be in the $600,000 range. Reports said Tennessee was prepared to pay Rodney Garner about $400,000 as a position coach. Tennessee has put out the word that it is going to hire the best coaching staff that money can buy.
In 2008, Tennessee spent $1.935 million on its assistant coaches. Before the hiring is done the budget for the Volunteer staff could double. It’s a good thing the new TV contracts with CBS and ESPN are getting ready to kick in. Tennessee is going to need the money.
In a recent poll in the Knoxville News-Sentinel, 63 percent of those who took part said that Tennessee was not overspending for its staff. Thirty percent said they were.
4. Texas will not win the AP national championship: The Longhorns made a great comeback to nip Ohio State at the buzzer in last night’s Fiesta Bowl. But I know the voters in the AP poll. I used to be one of them. They were looking for Texas to make a statement in last night’s game that they should share the national championship if Oklahoma beats Florida.
Texas looked sluggish in the first half and then got things cranked up in the second half behind Colt McCoy, who will definitely be in the Heisman discussion again next season.
Texas coach Mack Brown said that he will join Utah’s Kyle Whittingham and defy the rule that coaches must vote for the winner of the BCS championship game in the final USA Today coaches’ poll. He’s going to vote for Texas. I also predict, after talking with Brown last week, that he may not be a voter in the coaches’ poll next season. “I want to do what’s right but I also want to be fair to my team,” Brown told. “It’s just a conflict that we shouldn’t have as coaches. I’m going to do a lot of study and see if I should stay in.”
5. Tebow’s comments are a non-issue: Unfortunately, media day at the BCS national championship game has become like media day at the Super Bowl. It is a cluster you-know-what where the media desperately attempts to get a player to say something that will be a sound bite or a headline in an otherwise routine day. The players have to be coached to be boring instead of being themselves.
Florida quarterback Tim Tebow said earlier that he would like to play against some of the defenses in the Big 12 like Texas and Oklahoma. So the media spent the first half of the day trying to get Tebow to admit that he was really dissing the Big 12. Tebow’s point was that he would like be on the same field with two of the great franchises in the history of the sport. But that’s boring.
Oklahoma defensive back Dominique Franks said that Tebow would be the fourth-best quarterback in the Big 12. If I was a defensive back in the Big 12 and had seen Sam Bradford, Graham Harrell and Colt McCoy I would probably say the same thing. Franks was not knocking Tebow, he was taking up for his own league, which SEC players do all the time. But that’s boring.
Sometimes we in the media treat college football like it’s the WWE. At the end of the day it’s about who is going to win the game and why.
I know. That’s boring.
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By Go Buckeyes!
January 6, 2009 9:33 AM | Link to this
Ohio State should have switched bowls with Ball State, maybe the Buckeyes could win that one.
By GWJ
January 6, 2009 9:37 AM | Link to this
Concerning Coach Richt, well said!!
By Homer no more??
January 6, 2009 9:37 AM | Link to this
Wow!! Point #5 actually did NOT have an SEC slant to it and was actually a good point.
Great job, TB! Only took you six days into the New Year to say something smart.
By Geaux Tigers
January 6, 2009 9:42 AM | Link to this
The college football world according to Tony Barnhart:
“Alabama will prevail over undefeated Utah tonight in the Sugar Bowl. It will happen through the sheer force of Nick Saban’s will.”
To quote you again Tony:
“Gently put, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.”
Anthony, Mommy called and said to get your noise out of Nick’s back side.
By Thanks, Go Buckeyes!...
January 6, 2009 9:42 AM | Link to this
…for being realistic! I appreciate your honesty.
By Wouldn't it be great...
January 6, 2009 9:45 AM | Link to this
…if many of the coaches take the lead of the Utah and TX coaches and defy the BCS mandate and vote Utah as #1? That would put a dent in the BCS balloon!
By Geaux Tigerette
January 6, 2009 9:49 AM | Link to this
Hey Einsteen:
You’ve made the same post for the last two weeks.
If you’re going to insult, please advise what is the noise you speak of for Nick’s back side.
Lame.
By jumbo
January 6, 2009 9:51 AM | Link to this
I thought Ohio St played very well last night but Texas’ offense is more talented than what the Buckeyes have to offer. McCoy is a much better QB than Pryor which in my opinion was the difference in the game. Pryor is young & will improve. As a a SEC fan I know we have blasted the Buckeyes on here but you have to give them credit for their effort last night. They just got beat by a better team.
Geaux Tigers! Go SEC!
By JT
January 6, 2009 9:59 AM | Link to this
Well-said about Richt Tony!!
By Carolina Jacket
January 6, 2009 10:03 AM | Link to this
Look at the big time winning coaches over the years and see one thing that they share — not offenses or defenses — but assistant coaches who stay with them over the years. Hope Tech can do this. It will be a killer if they start turning over assistants year in and year out. Continuity is essential, as is a long history or recruitment contacts.
By JimBob
January 6, 2009 10:04 AM | Link to this
Tony, As a Vols fan, I have two comments: 1) You are right about staff stability to a point. Too much stability leads to complacency. 2) The combined salaries of Lane Kiffin, Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron don’t reach that of Saban. It will be interesting over the next couple of years to see who winds up with the highest-paid staff in the SEC and who gets the most value.
By Watchtower
January 6, 2009 10:04 AM | Link to this
Feel better now Tony after you’ve given Richt a warm little hug?
Have you checked out the graduation rate of his players lately? I didn’t think so.
By T
January 6, 2009 10:07 AM | Link to this
So.. .Richt is walking on water again… things are getting back to normal
I guess the sting of 45-42.. and 50-10, or whatever the Florida scores was, has finally worn off… Hail to Richt… by August, Tony will be writing … again.. about Georgia winning the MNC…
By Mikey
January 6, 2009 10:09 AM | Link to this
Pryor is going to change the perception of big 10 type offenses. He is the real deal.
OSU- Good job last night with the play calling, but in the end it was too much McCoy..
By Sautee Dawg
January 6, 2009 10:14 AM | Link to this
Tony
You are correct about the Man (CMR) people who critize him don’t have a clue what he’s all about. Both these coaches stayed for less money and titles should tell it like it is. Sure he don’t throw clipboards or visors or embarrass his players like some coaches do but, 82 wins in 8 years is not that bad. Rather have him as not. Chizik at Auburn will do fine, Auburn has lots of talent and he’ll do fine. Tennessee not only will have the highest paid coaching staff next season but they will also surpass Auburn as the team that will have the most results expected from it because of it. Tenn. Fans and Alumni will really be expecting quick-fix results for their money, just like the Auburn Crowd. Texas did not play that convincing of a game against OSU and they lost to a very overrated team in TT and the strength of their schedule is weak at best. Tebow don’t need any motivating, he brings that to the game himself, that’s why he’s considered the Gator’s leader, Oklahoma players should spend more time praticing than sitting in front of the media. For example; Ga. Tech spent their time and money before their bowlgame at the jewelry store ordering rings when they should have spent it preparing for LSU.
By Supes
January 6, 2009 10:17 AM | Link to this
Someone send a search party for the loser “The Ohio State Suck Eyes” who trolled these blogs for days talking sh*t in general about SEC schools left and right.
What happened “little buddy”?
LOST AGAIN in a bowl game is what happened, wow you must really enjoy watching our 2002 DVD, it’s been a while I mean for your over rated team to win a bowl game huh?
Ohio State - Simply put - Chokers in bowl games!
Way to go Texas. Exposed Ohio State once again, Hey there is always next year! Columbus LOSERS
By murfdawg
January 6, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this
Once again, The Ohio State Buckeyes cannot win a game outside The State of Ohio.
Tony, SOS should give the SEC his bowl money, since he was the only coach to lose to the Big 10 plus 1 conference.
By Ryno
January 6, 2009 10:23 AM | Link to this
Tony, all Rodney’s decision proved is that, once again, he didn’t get a DC job in the SEC. He did however, get his raise earlier than he was supposed to by going on his annual DC/raise search.
I guess CMR is a great guy if he patiently waits every year for the Garner tour of the South to be over before he pats him on the head and gives him his raise. “It’s o.k., Rodney. You can be my second best on defense forever.”
By Tech has an Inferiority Complex
January 6, 2009 10:25 AM | Link to this
Hey T the Tech fan…CMR didn’t get a 50% raise for winning one game… Didn’t get humiliated in a bowl game, did 10 games for the 6th time in 8 years, has beaten Tech 7 out of 8 years. I could go on but you, as well as all Tech fans know that Tech is nothing with out beating Georgia. Tech is obsessed with Georgia.It is always a one game season for Tech. All of the fans necks are stressed from looking up at Georgia. Check out the series record. Tech got out of the SEC because they couldn’t hang. Now they need to get out of the ACC. Can’t hang there either. But it really doesn’t matter what conference they are in because all they do is obsess over Georgia. Georgia is your daddy and except for a bad Stafford pass it would be 8 out 8 for CMR.
By DawginLex
January 6, 2009 10:26 AM | Link to this
Hey Suckeye Loser,
Lost again on a national stage in a BCS bowl. You and the Bama stan idiot getting on a UGA blog and spewing your crapola finally caught up to both of you.
Suckeye’s heroes-Terry Porter the ref and Maurice clarett the felon. Makes you proud don’t it ??? Bama still hasn’t won anything in recent years yet Bama Stan the moron claims they are “elite”. COMICAL
Both of you need to stay away from the UGA blogs in the future or you will get more of the same bad KARMA……
By BAMA STAN
January 6, 2009 10:28 AM | Link to this
31-0 at the half?!!
Good article and good game last night.
Buckeyes showed a lot of heart - two of the historic elites in College football going at it - decided in the last minute.
While a bitter loss for the Buckeyes - not an embarassing loss (see Alabama vs Utah). But Alabama is ahead of schedule - and went 12-0 in the regular season - and 8-0 in SEC play - something NO OTHER SEC TEAM DID THIS SEASON.
After the huge letdown losing to Florida (within 12 minutes of playing for a national title) - and the buzz kill to find out your opponent is UTAH - the team just did not mentally prepare… a huge mistake. Utah on the other hand had a lot to gain - and boy, give them credit.
Regarding Auburn
They need to be hiring the best staff they can find - regardless of race. This ship is sinking fast - but can be salvaged.
Too much was made about Turner Gill - an excellent HC at Buffalo - and his race. Gil will move to bigger and better football opportunities - and you can’t help but root for this classy, humble individual.
However, Chizik has Auburn roots - did a great job as DC there, all ready has recruiting inroads and experience in the Southeast - did a fantastic job at Texas as DC.
Hard to hold the Iowa State situation against him - as this is about the worst job in college football and he inherited zero talent at a school that competes in a very tough conference.
Chizik will need to show something better than 7/8 wins by year three - or he will be on the hot seat if not fired going into year 4.
Good luck to the Gators Thursday night.
**ROOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!
By Feels Good
January 6, 2009 10:31 AM | Link to this
45-42. Still feels good.
By GatorG
January 6, 2009 10:33 AM | Link to this
Tony,
Usually, I like your column and agree with what you say. But today you wrote,
“There is a reason that coaches work where they work and it’s not always about money. It’s about a quality of life. “
And then you turned around and spoke glowingly of Tennessee paying so much for their assistant coaches.
It probably doesn’t work this way in newspapers, but in most office environments, the sign of a great boss is that their staff keeps getting promoted into higher positions elsewhere in the company. It shows that the boss is more concerned about developing good people than in keeping them forever.
In your own column the other day, you pointed out that Urban Meyer is the best example of this. He doesn’t try to hold onto his assistants forever - he continuously develops them and helps them get head coaching jobs at other schools. And he keeps having a successful program of his own all the while.
I like Mark Richt, but if he was such a great coach, you’d see his coordinators getting head coaching positions elsewhere, and his lower assistants becoming his coordinators.
By JB
January 6, 2009 10:34 AM | Link to this
Searels and Garner are staying because they pretty much know what they have got in UGA and Richt. The other places, right now, are a crap shoot. both those guys ( AU & Tenn) will be under enormous pressure to win, and quick. If they don’t, heads will roll, assistants, not them, at first. Searels was born in Georgia. Garner has been in Athens 10 years, with kids. It’s home now for him. Richt does not take assistants out to the woods and shoot them. The only thing standing in Richt’s way to stay in Athens forever is the F word. Florida. Gotta beat them every now and be competitive when we lose.
By Dogbyte
January 6, 2009 10:34 AM | Link to this
Tony - Thank you for coming close to saying that many-a great many-of these “experts” who give us their “considered opinion” on these blogs, don’t know spit about nuttin. In short: Read the lead; skip the trash.
By saint nick
January 6, 2009 10:37 AM | Link to this
MEANINGLESS ARTICLE……..
SNOOZE…………
SNOOZE…………………………………………………………………………………………………………WHO CARES TONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Utah Ute
January 6, 2009 10:38 AM | Link to this
To Bama Stan. 21 to 0 AT THE HALF!
By DawginLex
January 6, 2009 10:39 AM | Link to this
Bama stan,
You have been warned……..
31-17 vs UTAH ??????????
31 points given up to florida ???
31 yards rushing ????????
Stay of our blogs or face the continued bad KARMA………………
Bama=elite ??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
By JohninJax
January 6, 2009 10:40 AM | Link to this
Thanks again Tony for all your information I always enjoy reading your perspective. I agree with you on CMR. CMR is a class guy and a Bulldog Nation is very blessed to have him as our Coach. Thanks again for you articles and keep up the great work. By the way… could you do some articles on college football recruiting especially on the SEC and ACC?
By Fred
January 6, 2009 10:42 AM | Link to this
By Watchtower
January 6, 2009 10:04 AM | Link to this
Feel better now Tony after you’ve given Richt a warm little hug?
Have you checked out the graduation rate of his players lately? I didn’t think so.
By T
January 6, 2009 10:07 AM | Link to this
So.. .Richt is walking on water again… things are getting back to normal
You never have to look far to find a couple of classless jerks from that trade school over on North Avenue do you?
Thank you Tech Has And Inferiority Complex. They keep proving that in spite of winning their one game a decade. It’s perfectly normal for them to act like they’ve never been there before.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 10:48 AM | Link to this
Once again, what does Bama have to show for going 12-0 before losing the last two?
Western Division Champs? Woohoo.. Congratulations on being well ahead of schedule. When you actually win the SEC or a BCS Bowl come back & talk to me. Till then Bama will still remain irrelevent & Bear Bryant is still dead.
By Mike
January 6, 2009 10:52 AM | Link to this
I will say this about media days surrounding the BCS championship game, Brandon Spikes is not boring. There is no way to gloss over his statements about the Sooner defense. In case anyone missed it, Spikes said that teams in the big 12 are a step slower than SEC teams and that the Sooner offense had not faced a defense with the speed of UF’s. That my friend is good old fashion smack right there, nothing boring about it.
Also, I am no fan of the Gators or Tebow but Colt McCoy doesn’t belong in the same discussion as Timmy for player of the year.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 10:54 AM | Link to this
And as far as the Techies go.. Who gives a f#ck… Go get some rings made, you’re still UGA’s b#tches for life.
By HA
January 6, 2009 10:55 AM | Link to this
inferiority complex: take pretty much your whole post, and replace”georgia tech” with “georgia”, and then “georgia” with “florida”. funny how that works out eh?
By Bama Stan
January 6, 2009 10:57 AM | Link to this
The Bear is dead?! When’s the funeral?
By RetLTC
January 6, 2009 10:58 AM | Link to this
GatorG, while you have somewhat of a point, have you stopped to think that some folks are just happy doing exactly what they are doing at present? Both Garner and Searles will be HCs some day and CMR has never ever detered an assistant from doing what feels right for him. And then you have the wisdom of knowing the right situation from the wrong. I’m sure Garner would have loved the Auburn job however the Tennessee job was hardly a promotion. And Garner was smart enough to realize that the Kiffins are probably no more than hired guns. Searles is a relative newcomer to the “hot assistant” list and probably knows he needs more seasoning. Mark Richt waited many years at FSU even though offers as an HC were on the table. The question he asked his wife, “can you see yourself in Pittsburgh for the rest of your life”, comes to mind. Maybe, just maybe, GatorG, Richt’s wisdom has been one of those attributes of a leader that rubs off on his staff and creates the loyalty that all great leaders will achieve. That wisdom got him his destination job. Maybe Garner and Searles want theirs too. When it appears they will know it. And even though he has a good job now making tons of money as an assistant coach, do you think Brian Van Gorder may have looked back on his decision to leave UGA for Georgia Southern a time or two? I’d bet money on it.
By Cindy
January 6, 2009 11:01 AM | Link to this
Obviously GatorG doesn’t fully understand everything that goes into being a great boss and leader.
By D.Ellis
January 6, 2009 11:02 AM | Link to this
Gator G-Actually WM and Bobo were “lower” assistants that got promoted to OC and DC. Bobo was QB coach…and WM was defensive asst.
Also BVG old DC took a HC position as well as the guy that took over HC job at UAB can’t remember his name.
Good post
By Terminator
January 6, 2009 11:05 AM | Link to this
FACT: the US economy is disintegrating faster than you can read this.
As a direct result, 2009 and will bring a Top 8/10 D-1 football playoff system.
Whats left of college football in 2009, NCAA will be forced to move to a top 8/10 playoff system for 2009. Non Top 10 teams will get bowl bids…that is, for any bowl that still exists next year.
Any viable bowls left will HAVE to focus on getting matchups with teams that are geogrpahically close and can bring a “profitable” number of fans. Example, Gator Bowl will become strictly an ACC vs. SEC contest, like Peach(Chik-Fil-A bowl).
Mark my words, New Orleans, the state of Louisiana, Atlanta, the state of Georgia, the SEC, and the Atlanta Sports Council will be in a MAJOR dust-up before 2009 season begins with New Orleans DEMANDING the SEC Championship be in New Orleans on an every other year basis. Way too much money for New Orleans not to fight for a piece. Count on it. Any ACC champ game will be moved to Atlanta on a rotating basis as a result.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:07 AM | Link to this
If the Bear wasn’t dead, he surely is now after Bama choking on Utah’s slong….
By Mike
January 6, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this
To the guy above me who blames Stafford for the Tech game:
I think the 400 yards passing and five touchdowns cancel out the one pick 6.
Defense and special teams lost that game for us, no doubt about it.
By WOW!
January 6, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this
45-42. The mutts still lost. You still talk trash, b/c thats all you have. We won THIS YEAR, IN ATHENS. Thats all that matters. THIS YEAR. Not the previous 7, nor 19. Good ol mutt fans, if they can’t beat you this year, then they run their collective toothless mouths about the “series record” (see UF and GT). The preseason champs went down to the preseason #79 (1 behind Duke, as many of you white trash classless losers pointed out preseason). So continue to talk trash, b/c its all you have. PATHETIC.
By WOW!
January 6, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this
45-42. The mutts still lost. You still talk trash, b/c thats all you have. We won THIS YEAR, IN ATHENS. Thats all that matters. THIS YEAR. Not the previous 7, nor 19. Good ol mutt fans, if they can’t beat you this year, then they run their collective toothless mouths about the “series record” (see UF and GT). The preseason champs went down to the preseason #79 (1 behind Duke, as many of you white trash classless losers pointed out preseason). So continue to talk trash, b/c its all you have. PATHETIC.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this
Cindy, look at Urban Meyer… Not exactly a classy guy in my opinion… GatorG, the name says it all. I would rather UGA lose to UF every year from now on than to have a coach like Urban Meyer.
By GatorG
January 6, 2009 11:14 AM | Link to this
RetLTC,
If we ever see such a cycle happen with Richt, then you’ll be right. Time will tell.
I will concede that there’s another factor that’s often involved in these situations. There are times when assistant coaches who work with very successful head coaches (Bowden, Spurrier, Meyer, Tressel, etc.) get too much credit for their boss’s work. They get head coaching jobs at other schools and then fall on their face. Richt, however still hasn’t reached that level of consistently high success to give his assistants those opportunities.
Like I said, I like Mark Richt. Character-wise, I think he’s one of the, if not the, top coaches in the country. I just don’t think he’s one of the top coaches when it comes to coaching.
By GatorG
January 6, 2009 11:19 AM | Link to this
WTF??? said:
“I would rather UGA lose to UF every year from now on than to have a coach like Urban Meyer.”
I believe your wish will be granted!!
And, with a blog name like yours, I don’t think I’d be preaching about “class.”
By Desert Dawg
January 6, 2009 11:19 AM | Link to this
Mark Richt is a great HC and man of integrity. If those of you who make disparaging remarks about him can’t see that, you have a problem. Garner and Searles could have left but didn’t. I am sure CMR would have supported any decision they made. But sometimes, you make decisions based on things that are bigger than yourself. That was the case here. The assistants at UGA will get opportunities to move up in the future and CMR will be their greatest advocate. But, for the time being, staying with the Bulldogs is the right choice for them. And we should be thankful that the Bulldogs have CMR at it’s helm.
There is a suttle trend developing that most here are missing. GA is keeping more and more “In State” talent. This tells you as much as anything about what is going on at both UGA (and beginning at TECH). This is a direct reflection of the consistency and quality of coaching at both schools. Expect great things as long as GA players don’t go to Florida, Alabama or Tennessee to play college ball.
You can continue to second guess CMR and CWM but only a blind man could not see the solid football program that is emerging in Athens. It is great to be a DAWG.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:23 AM | Link to this
WOW! Call Paul Johnson & see if he has an extra ring for you… Size Dumba##…
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this
I’m not preaching.. Nor am I in a position that requires me to be “classy” seeing as I am posting on a blog concerning UGA coaches that is full of Bama, Tech & Florida fans. How is this for class? You, all your Bammer & Tech friends can jumpon my nut sack mouth first. You, all your Bammer & Tech friends come on here to stir up sh#t so of course I’m not going to act “classy” towards you.
By ACC fan
January 6, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this
Tony:
I just heard BC fired their HC for interviewing with another team?
Do you have any info on this?
Thanks!
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:32 AM | Link to this
link for bammer fans
www.twosabansonecup.org
link for Gator fans
www.seetebownaked.net
link for Tech fans
www.youarestillugasbitches.com
By GatorG
January 6, 2009 11:32 AM | Link to this
Oh, yeah, WTF - you are certainly a testament to the class of the Bulldawg Nation!
By G8R GRAD
January 6, 2009 11:34 AM | Link to this
Once again the “high-powered Big 12 offense” struggled against a decent defense and, once again, the “imposing Big 10 defense” couldn’t keep up with speed on offense, once UT got things going in the 3rd quarter. Texas didn’t score a TD in the entire first half and OSU’ D line and LB’s were running around in circles (or standing around hands-on-hips) while UT was snapping the ball.
Although Colt and the Longhorns were my sentimental nomination for the Heisman and the BCSCG, after last night’s performance I’m convinced the best team in the Big 12 lines up against my Gators Thursday night.
GO GATORS!
By gdawginkalamazoo
January 6, 2009 11:36 AM | Link to this
Utah Ute, wasn’t it 21-0 at the end of the first quearter? Bama Stan 21-0.
Where is our The Ohio State Bills buddy at? Sweater vest might work better in Buffalo. The University of Buffalo Buckeyes.
WOW! Still pi$$ed about the win? What kind of ring do you get for that Chick-Fil-A bowl performance? How much of a raise did ONV Johnson get? Good thing you won this year because any other year I might be disappointed with a loss to the techmites.
By JagGSUFan
January 6, 2009 11:38 AM | Link to this
RetLTC,
I disagree with you about VanGorder; his status of being a sure-fre head coach down the road is laughable at best.
VanGorder didn’t leave UGA for GSU. He left UGA to go to Jacksonville to take a defensive line coach job, then left there to go to run the GSU program into the ground. And while he may not regret it, GSU fans regret ever letting him anywhere near Paulson Stadium with the garbage he sold to the fans and then put on the field.
I know it seems trivial to some UGA fans because they don’t think GSU is very relevant and that’s fine, but imagine someone coming into Athens, changing all the football traditions, abandoning many of the loyal boosters and fans, and then losing to a Division 2 school at home. VanGorder managed to do all that in just 10 months on the job.
It was evident very early that while he could could talk the talk, he had no business being a head coach for anyone, let alone an FCS school like Georgia Southern. He’s not head coaching material, regardless how high UGA fans regard him for the defenses he had at UGA. Perhaps it was the fact that Richt and the recruiting department brought in some great players, not VanGorder being such a mastermind.
GSU hit the jackpot with an old UGA defensive coordinator back in the 80’s, but VanGorder shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence with Coach Russell.
Thanks VanGorder, you set the GSU program back at least 10 years with your pathetic attempt at being a head coach; times got tough and you bailed. But that’s VanGorder for you; forever destined to be a coordinator.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:38 AM | Link to this
And you my friend are the epitome of a typical Gator fan, always trying to keep sh#t stirred up with a Dawg….
By Chazington
January 6, 2009 11:43 AM | Link to this
Tony,
I agree that Richt is a good man, but for God’s sake, STOP SUCKING UP TO SEC COACHES!!!
Sucking up=access=Tony writes a book and makes money.
Stop being such a brownnoser!
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:44 AM | Link to this
JagGSUfan - I’m with you… VanGorder/Erk??? No comparison…
By G8TR
January 6, 2009 11:44 AM | Link to this
Anything that keeps CMR and his ongoing record of under-achievement in place in Athens longer is OK by the rest of the SEC. After all, his window of time to breakthrough as a perennial SEC leader (e.g. during the Zook era and the decline of the Fulmer era) has passed. Check the head-coaching records of all the key Bowden assistants: none have succeeded — unless you regard sticking around a long time (Richt) as success. Compared to CMR, by this time in their head-coaching tenures, Spurrier, Fulmer and Meyer already had NCs under their belts from within the SEC East. Not to mention the SEC West (Miles, Saban). Sure, Richt has lots of W’s. But losing at home to Vandy, SC,Ga Tech, etc. over the years.; getting whipped in big, embarassing games like ALA, and not pinning down your rival (FL) would get most HCs fired elsewhere. Sorry, that’s the yard-stick. (Just ask Tuberville, Nutt, Fulmer, etc.)
By KneeJerk
January 6, 2009 11:45 AM | Link to this
Garner and Searles stayed because they have job security in Athens. They look at Willie Martinez and think, “Man, if an assistant coach can be that bad at his job and still not get fired, why would we go someplace where we might actually be held accountable?”
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:47 AM | Link to this
I’m Rick James B#TCH!!!
By 38-3
January 6, 2009 11:49 AM | Link to this
Tech fans, still waiting on those Chick-Fil-A Bowl rings?
What’s the matter nerd nation? Oh yeah that’s right, one small thing…you still had to play the game, and LSU actually had to show up.
Your Gimmicky Offense will be exposed next year, be prepared to be brought back down to earth.
Tech - Still no 10 win season in this decade!
UGA - 10 win season is a “down year”.
Book it nerds, UGA OWNS your FEABLE Minds.
That’s why you come here and talk sh*t, UGA always on your mind.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 11:50 AM | Link to this
G8TR - Kind of like Ole Miss & Auburn in the swamp huh? Yuh.. I know exactly what you’re talking about….
By Andy in WR
January 6, 2009 11:52 AM | Link to this
The few times I have posted I have tried to stay positive, however, one can only take so much crap…..
45-42, I’d feel ggod too techies however 7 out of 8, I feel great
A strong Bama is good for the SEC but gumpers, you have peaked—LSU will be tough in 09 and the Barn and Tenn will be much improved therefore 2-3 reg season losses in 2009 for the still bearless elephants
FL—you are going to lose so many to the NFL even the crier will need a program to recognize his team
Tech again—for crying out loud—actually win something before opening your mouth—better to stay silent and let everyone think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt—Fl fans are just as obnoxious but at least I can take their crap as their program ia a winner not a wantabe
By GatorG
January 6, 2009 11:57 AM | Link to this
WTF, I’m just curious:
Are you drunk?
By Bamafan
January 6, 2009 11:58 AM | Link to this
WTF and Roswell Ed and Bama Stan would be a interesting sect to set down and have a drink with!! Which one you like to throw your drink in these gentlemen faces!!! EASY ANSWER ALL 3!!! JUST KIDDING!!! Bama Stan is a good guy 31-0!!
By Anonymous
January 6, 2009 12:04 PM | Link to this
WTF???:
Where’s YOUR team been since New Year’s Day?
At HOME watching more successful programs play?!!!
By G8TR
January 6, 2009 12:06 PM | Link to this
WTF — If your program can drop home games to Vandy, USC, Ga Tech, etc., and still win SEC titles and NCs, please go right ahead. Not to mention the usual debacles in Jax.
Wasn’t 1980 a long time ago? Since then, ALA, LSU, UT and UF all have notched six national titles between them. But, hey — if you all are satisfied, that’s fine w/ the rest of the league. After all, you do help our strength of schedule w/ 10-win, non-title seasons under CMR. I’m just noting everyone else’s standards….
By mcdawg
January 6, 2009 12:08 PM | Link to this
I have both Utah and USC ahead of Texas-i think dawgs could play with either of those teams last night
By Ring man
January 6, 2009 12:09 PM | Link to this
I can’t get the order for the Techies rings straight. They can’t decide whether they want them for the left ear or the right. Beeches!
By Huh?
January 6, 2009 12:20 PM | Link to this
Why do they interview if the like CMR that much?
By The Whole truth
January 6, 2009 12:23 PM | Link to this
Hey lizzards; The results of the last 2 years in Jax are UGA 1 Fla 1. Now, if you want to talk history, it will still show UGA ahead. Now, STFU!
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 12:24 PM | Link to this
Andy in wr,
With only 9 seniors on our 85 man roster, the lowest of any team in the country, I would hardly say Bama has “peaked”. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
WTF???,
You always amuse me with your posts and I can’t blame you for wanting to get back at Bamastan but some of your comments about Bama are just plain dumb. Your comment “The bear is still dead”. Yep. Shore is. Has been for 25 years in fact. And since he died in 1982 we’ve won more sec titles than UGA and a national title. We were the 5th winningest program of the 90s under Stallings with a national title. That’s what we’ve done since the bear died. What exactly have you done since Herschel? 2 secs in 26 years and no ncs. What a joke
gwdawginkalamazoo,
Yes, it was 21-0 Utah in the 1st qtr. It was also 21-17 in the 3rd qtr you moron. But being down 21-0 to an undefeated 12-0 utah team and rallying sure beats being down 28-0 to a 2 loss West Virginia team. Surely even a dawg fan understands that don’t you dawg fan?
By Michael Scharff
January 6, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this
Tony, here’s a HUGE THANK-YOU from a life-long (49 years) UGA fan (and alumnus). CMR ROCKS!
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this
Um… We’ve won SEC titles dumbass…
Actually since Mark Richt’s arrival in Athens we’ve won two & Florida has won two. It just so happens when Florida wins it they play for the NC. When UGA wins it we play in the Sugar Bowl & get snubbed by a sh#tty OSU or USC.
And as far as SEC titles go, win 4 more then we can talk about SEC titles.
By GT student
January 6, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this
hey G8TR GT has won one since then too. lol 1980 was so long ago.
By G8R GRAD
January 6, 2009 12:30 PM | Link to this
mcdawg:
I agree. Since last night’s showing:
1) BCS champ (UF)
2) USC
3) Utah
4) Texas
5) OU
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this
Comments in response to Tony——
(1) Eloquently stated, Tony. There are too many fans, of the Dawgs and other teams, who toss their logic and good manners and engage in rhetorical excess when they start to type their posts in the little dialogue box at the bottom of this blog page. Too bad. They are not adding anything to the conversation except nastiness.
Coach Mark Richt IS an excellent college football coach, no doubt, and he has clearly elevated the level of the play of the UGA football program over his predecessors, Jim Donnan and Ray Goff. In all but a small handful of years, Richt has consistently produce better results than Dawg legend Vince Dooley. (I know I speak sacrilege.)
It is, however, entirely fair and legitimate to ask how Coach Richt is going to address a demonstrated problem of an under-performing Dawg defense. I’m a Gator fan, so I’m happy with the present state of affairs, but, if I were a Dawg fan, I might expect changes in coaching personnel, starting players, practice routines, defensive play-calling, defensive game planning and/or even the fundamental scheme.
And, no, there is nothing fundamentally wrong with wanting to change coaching personnel to take the defense in a new direction. It happens in sports, business and politics every day.
(2) Every new coach deserves a reasonable chance to succeed. Gene Chizik is no different. Problem is that Auburn has very high expectations and has dug a very deep hole.
(3) Tennessee is spending money on its new coaching staff like they have new color copier. If it works, the Vols could become the New York Yankees of the SEC. Keep in mind that even the Yankees only make it to the World Series about one year in three. Hopefully, they’re not paying their recruits, too. LOL
(4) No, Texas will not win the AP championship, but they will receive a significant number of number 1 votes. Utah will get most of the sympathy vote in the west, but, depending on who wins the BCS title game, the Longhorns could get a pretty big sympathy vote elsewhere.
(5) I have never heard Gators QB Tim Tebow say anything disparaging about any opponent (not even the Citadel, and certainly not SEC rivals). I take him at his word that he would like to play against the likes of Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas Tech (and Southern Cal, Penn State, Ohio State and Utah) because of the level of competition they represent. That’s what true competitors want: to prove themselves against the Best.
“And that’s all I’ve got to say about that.” Forrest Gump, Alabama ‘66
By TUCK FECK
January 6, 2009 12:35 PM | Link to this
I don’t understand other teams fans OBSESSION with GEORGIA on the UGA blog?
By SecIsFootball
January 6, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this
Andy in WR….I am very interested in your comment that BAMA has “peaked”. So, we had one good year last year and it is all over for us now? Seems we are recruiting on the same level now as UGA and LSU and UF. You expect these teams to maintain that moving forward but not UA? Very interesting train of thought. LSU, AU and UT will be better because there is really no where to go but up. BAMA has to replace a few players and we wont repeat the same record we did this year but we are not going to be bad either. I think you will be very disappointed next year when BAMA is not as bad as you think. And by the way, the only people bring up the Bear on here are mindless morons like yourself….no UA fans.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this
Bama12titles, I know Bama’s irrelevancy since 99 hurts you deeply. Do something this century please..
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 12:38 PM | Link to this
GT Student, go compile the data that shows your frequent masturbation trend & STFU.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Link to this
Hey, wasn’t Hawaii undefeated last year also??
I’m just askin…
By SecIsFootball
January 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Link to this
WTF…so, BAMA winning a division title is meaningless? Then what does it say for UGA, who last year started #1 in the country and has (as UGA fans proclaim) the best HC the game has ever seen, the best QB to ever play at UGA, the best RB in the nation and the best freshman WR the game has ever seen, but they cant even win their own division. In fact, STafford and Moreno have not done that yet. I guess UGA has had a bunch of meaningless season too huh? This one espcially since the entire nation watched them choke under the pressure of a top ranking. I am glad you think so lowly of UA. I guess it much have really stung watching then whip the mutts this year, huh?
By G
January 6, 2009 12:45 PM | Link to this
Good article Tony - Here Here on your comments regarding Mark Richt.
By GeorgiaDawgs93
January 6, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this
Tech has an inferiority complex? No way! This can’t be the same group of whining, nasty, rancid fans and alumni that everytime they try to think about playing Georgia, with our better conference, better campus, better women, better colors, better coaches, better athletes, you get read for it by pulling down your pants, opening your drawers, and grabbing a magnifying glass.
Tech fans, shut up. You beat us 1 time in 8 against Richt. You beat us by 3. You got rings for that? Was that before or after LSU humiliated you pieces of garbage in Atlanta…your own backyard?
Your hateful, nasty, spiteful trolls. I hate Florida, but as neck as their fan base is, they can back up their talk often enough with wins and talent. They are hateable, but they’ve at least earned the right to be hateable. What in God’s name has Tech ever done?
I’ve never seen a bigger group of complete losers who should cease to exist in my life, than you stupid, obnoxious Tech fans, who never shut up.
This is my first time posting here but I am at my wit’s end reading all the inane stuff posted by Yellow Jacket nation. Really, you guys make Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie look like they have more class.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this
ROFL!!!! Yeah, similar to Bama losing to Utah right… I guess all you Bammer Homers can put the Sturdivant loss into perspective now huh?
By G8TR
January 6, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this
WTF - As long as we’re talking “it just so happens…” your 2003 title came via a three-way East tie, which would not happen today due to the tie-breaker system that penalized UF because of an FSU game (e.g. nothing to do w/ the SEC). It’s the same BCS ranking problem that bit UTex this season. That “just so happens” won’t happen again. And, last time I checked, Ron Zook was in Illinois, so Richt’s “edge” is gone.
Finally, as usual, any discussion of modern-day results sends UGA backers to 1980 and earlier. Sadly, that’s also how Notre Dame talks, too.
By Sven Ottke
January 6, 2009 12:51 PM | Link to this
Yeah, well Tony, the last time Choirboy Richt had the gravitas to go head to head with Saban and Meyer, he got them kicked in. I see you are back to being his shower caddy.
By Preseason #1
January 6, 2009 12:51 PM | Link to this
Did it occur to anyone that the reason asst. coaches hang around Richt is because he’s a sucker and doesn’t have the guts/maturity to fire anyone.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 12:53 PM | Link to this
Hey, I can’t complain. 3-1 against the mighty Crimson Tide in Richt’s tenure ain’t too shabby.. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and then..
By Anonymous
January 6, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this
WTF?
Thank you, once again, for contributing to the gentlemanly atmosphere of this blog. I am quite certain that your mother is proud to read your contribution.
By GHOST OF ERK RUSSELL
January 6, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this
HEY WOW-YOU ONLY HAVE TO HIT THE POST KEY ONCE YOU HOMO.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 12:57 PM | Link to this
A win is a win… All of those precious recruits Urban has now will be gone soon and the tide will turn back in our favor. It’s only a matter of time before the rest of these kids start seeing things like Greg Reid & backing off their commitments to UF to come to UGA.
By Mike
January 6, 2009 12:58 PM | Link to this
Lane, Coach O, and Monte come cheaper than Saban combined. Lane is trying to higher the best assistants since he is only getting paid 2 million a year. What is wrong with that? Let’s be honest on Rodney not leaving UGA….he wanted to coach on the defensive side of the ball under Monte but Coach O was already there. TN offered him the OL job so he would not be under Monte. Plus if mamma ain’t happy, no one is. His wife wanted out of Knoxville the first go around to be closer to Atlanta so needless to say, she did not want to make a return trip.
By Old Dawg
January 6, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this
Tony:
You’re correct about Coach Richt and many of the folks who post here. I wish there were more rational thinkers in this world, but that isn’t the case. Keep doing a great job, and we’ll keep reading your great copy. i also enjoy your work on “Talking Football,” and on other broadcasts. By the way, how many copies of your book, “Southern Fried Football,” have been sold?
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:06 PM | Link to this
I’m sure she’s proud of me also. She would want me to rip idiots that come onto UGA blogs talking Tech, Bammer & UF sh#t.
By David
January 6, 2009 1:11 PM | Link to this
Just ask yourself this Tony….
Why haven’t Bobo or Martinez been courted like Searels or Garner?
Exactly. Because they aren’t elite coaches. Maybe someday they will be. It is tough having coaches learn on the job.
By KneeJerk
January 6, 2009 1:18 PM | Link to this
Then she must be the mom from “Every which Way but Loose”
By Eric1
January 6, 2009 1:21 PM | Link to this
That Ohio State QB spent more time trying to get out of bounds than he did trying to gain yardage. That’s why they lost. The Buckeyes should’ve had at least 2 more TDs.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:24 PM | Link to this
And by the way, no I’m not drunk. But I’m pretty sure my mom was.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:25 PM | Link to this
She is
By John
January 6, 2009 1:28 PM | Link to this
Tony,
Great comment on Richt, I totally agree.
To all Richt detractors, please keep in mind that we had 19 season ending injuries. That’s 1 short of 20. Many of those injuries where to lineman. I don’t think that there’s a coach alive who could win a championship with that many critical injuries.
10-3 is pretty good, considering.
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this
WTF???
So UGA has won 3 of 4 against Bama with the other 3 wins coming against probation ridden and scholarship reduced Bama teams. If you want to live in the past we can do that . We’ve won 36 out of the 51 games we’ve played you. In other words we have historically dominated you.
Bringing up losing Sturdivant vs losing the Outland trophy winner is ludicrous. You lost Sturdivant well before the season started and had ample time to get someone else plenty of practice reps. We lost Smith 2 days before the bowl game. Also you idiot we lost our 3rd best o-lineman early in the 1st qtr or maybe your dumb@zz missed that. Hard to win missing 2 of your starting 5 o-linemen when you lose them just before the game and during the 1st qtr. No exscuses though. We did get beat just like when you got walloped by a 2 loss West Virginia team.
As for your continued resentment of the gators please learn something you moron. Greg Reid is looking at UGA and not UF for the simple reason that of UFs 4 starters in the secondary 3 are sophomores and one is a freshman. He is only looking at UGA due to the playing time factor.
Lastly, this is not a UGA blog you imbecile. It is a college football blog. Good God you are stupid.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this
Poser Biatch.. Make your own name.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:32 PM | Link to this
“That Ohio State QB”? Seriously??? I’m all Dawg but damn.. You don’t know the name of one of last years biggest recruits? I see what the problem with this damn board is now. Most of you folks don’t know sh#t about college football…..
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 1:33 PM | Link to this
Don’t know if the gator bloggers noticed this but I noticed WTF??? said he would rather lose every year to Urban Meyer than have him as a coach because he is so lacking in class apparently.
It seems to me that this is a subconscious, tacit acknowledgement by WTF??? that there is no hope of competing with meyer and the gators. This is very said indeed bordering on pathetic.
Lastly, why does he think meyer is so classless? What did meyer do? Don’t know but I know what Richt and his players have done. Lets see. Where do we start?
Let’s start with dancing on the Vandy logo after beating them. Who does that by the way anyway other than UGA? Then lets talk about the whole team taunting Auburn in the waning moments of a dawg win with all their soulja boy dancing on the sidelines directed at the Auburn sideline. Then lets talk about the piling onto the field against UF. Then all the ensuing unsportsmanlike penalties after that poor showing of sportsmanship. Then lets talk about the 10 players UGA has had arrested this year. No one else is even close. Then lets talk about all of Knowshons showboating with the hands on the hips routine,etc. And to think you have the audacity to call out Urban Meyer because he chooses to use his timeouts. Unfreakingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By IM4BAMA
January 6, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this
Good for Georgia and Searls and Garner. Money isn’t everything. Wise choice.
Chizik has had some great hires, no matter their color. I hope he is successful so Barkley and the rest of the people who trashed Auburn can eat their words. (but not too successful) RTR.
UT is sparing no expense but they have no choice but to do so. They are in good shape with Monte running the D and Orgeron and Lane bringing in the talent. The jury is still out on the offensive side of the ball for me.
The SEC, from top to bottom, is impressive or at least will be when UT,Auburn and Arkansas get back to normal and even MSU should be better soon. There really is no question which conference is better especially when you look to the future.
By jumbo
January 6, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this
Well said Atlanta Gator. There is no doubt Richt is an excellent coach but I do wonder that his thinking is with the Dawg’s d. I know Miles is perceived by some as note being a good coach but I think the way LSU was ready for Tech and his decision to hire Chavis proves he knows what he’s doing. Indeed something had to change. Instead of succumbing to the fans and media by making a quick change after the regular season ended, he gave his 2 d-coodinators a chance to save face by finding another job. That type of consideration is known among the coaching fraternity and certainly makes LSU an ideal place to work. At the same time he kept his cards close to his vest. I am sure a deal was set up with Chavis weeks ago(which is probably why he turned down the Clemeson job) and it was only last week the story came out. Even ESPN didn’t know about it until recently. I futrhter agree with you about the nastiness on this blog. There is nothing like football in the south. Can’t we just respect each other and have fun without making so personal.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this
Oh.. It’s not a UGA blog? I guess the title “Garner, Searels decisions speak volumes about Richt” threw me off…
IDIOT
By m
January 6, 2009 1:36 PM | Link to this
Tony, there is an old saying about “being as full of shiite as a Christmas turkey.” That statement applies EXACTLY to you and your blog. If anyone goes back and reads the total crap that you have posted all year, and how WRONG it has been over and over again, they will certainly agree that the above statement is totally about you. You and Chan Gailey and the BCS are 3 peas in a pod. Too bad Chan didn’t take you and the BCS with him. But, as always, Thank God and Greyhound that he is gone forever.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, you’re seriously a b#tch dude….
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this
I have no life or girlfriend, that is why I post here 50 times a day!
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By SWAMP_MOLESTATION
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
Spikes is still scraping NOshow off the bottom of his shoe. UF just scored again. 49-10 OUCH. 38-3 sucks, but 49-10…..JESUS. The 3 time outs at the end to help the mutts wallow in their misery was the funniest thing all year in college football. But the biggest joke in college football was uga being preseason #1. Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.
By BAMA STAN
January 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
31-0 at the half?!!
Hey guys - if you are going to bust on Bama - do it right.
It was 21-0 at the end of Q1!!
Again - give Utah credit. We were outcoached, outhussled, outplayed. Just did not prepare mentally for this game - and excellent lesson and stepping stone for a VERY YOUNG TEAM A great turnaround season.
Call it Karma - the 31 point thing:
Florida scored 31 points on Bama.
Utah scored 31 points on Bama.
Bama scores 31 points on UGA - in the first half alone!!!
Glad to see UGA rally from a halftime deficit to beat Michigan State. With a few minutes to go - UGA nursing a 4 point lead - the MICHIGAN STATE of the SEC beats Michigan State. WOW!!!! GO SPARTAN DOGS!!
ROLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:40 PM | Link to this
Don’t be hatin b#tch
By IM4BAMA
January 6, 2009 1:42 PM | Link to this
Thank you Texas. Thanks for winning, so USC doesn’t get another AP national championship. If OU wins, you will get the AP title, if UF wins, you don’t. Sorry but I got to root for the Gators and the SEC.
Ohio State fans: Hold your heads up. They played great and fought hard and came real close. The future looks bright.
I hate the media and how the stir the pot to see what comes up.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:44 PM | Link to this
The point with the O-linemen is this.. When you lose a stud like Smith or Sturdivant it really hurts your program. I don’t care if Bama had 3 weeks notice, if you don’t have the kids to replace him you’re done. It took UGA until mid-way through the season to find the right mix on our line & I KNOW it wasn’t due to poor coaching.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 1:44 PM | Link to this
bama12titles——Oh, I noticed, smiled, and licked my chops. = )
Unfortunately, WTF??? is not the UGA athletic director.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:46 PM | Link to this
BamaStan - Too bad the Hawaii of the SEC couldn’t handle the MAC….
By LOL
January 6, 2009 1:48 PM | Link to this
Come on bama12titles, we lost to West Virginia by a field goal, I hardly call that getting walloped. I also seem to remember that same West Virginia team destroying the Sooners in the Fiesta bowl.
By GHOST OF ERK RUSSELL
January 6, 2009 1:49 PM | Link to this
HEY BAMA 12-IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET PUT ON PROBATION STOP GIVING MONEY TO RECRUITS-YOUR BIG TACKLE TALKING TO AN AGENT AND PROBABLY ACCEPTING MONEY,HE CLEARLY IS NO ROCKET SCIENTIST.UGA WAS ALSO ON PROBATION A FEW YEARS BACK WE WON 9 GAMES MOST YEARS AND NEVER MADE EXCUSES.BAMA GETS PUT ON PROBATION AGAIN YOU WILL PROBABLY GET THE DEATH PENALTY AS A HABITUAL VIOLATOR.HEY BY THE WAY NICE BOWL GAME YOU EMBARRASED THE ENTIRE SEC.BAMA AND SOUTH CAROLINA SHOULD BE HARMLESS AS HEELHOUNDS FOR A WHILE.21-0 1ST QTR BAMA STAN JUST AWFUL.
By gdawginkalamazoo
January 6, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, no what is the difference? Your boy Bama Stan likes to bring his crap on here with 31-0 half as his signature. Well 21-0 first quarter. But I won’t use that as anything other than you guys got punked worst than we did against WVU. At least WVU is from a REAL conference to quote your savior. IMO though I see college football for what it is worth. Nothing but entertainment. Nothing but the best team winning on the day the game is played with the players it puts on the field that day. No hypotheticals here, no if this and that. You guys beat us this year, UF beat this year and Tech beat us this year. Better teams that wanted it more on game day. Last year, the 90’s the 80’s, multiple NC’s, past SEC titles, they don’t have anything to do with the game played this year or next year. Ask Michigan or Notre Dame. People seem to get a little defensive or offensive when talking passionately about their teams. Nothing wrong with a little smack talk. Bragging rights last until the teams meet again and a victor is determined. BTW, I wish that you guys hadn’t lost that game.
Atlanta Gator, happy new year. New year same old chumps on here spewing the vitriol against us old dawgs. Your point as usual are well made. Auburn does need to give its new guy the benefit of the doubt. I don’t know about the Malzhan? hire. Wasn’t he the one that got Houston Nutt going down the wrong path? Lot of luggage with that guy. I think UT was an early investor in the Madoff funds. Got their returns and they are trying to spend them before Uncle Sam calls.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 1:54 PM | Link to this
OMG… Atlanta Gator, please remove your lips from bama12titles azz….
By hatfieldgeoff
January 6, 2009 1:58 PM | Link to this
Hey T, We all can’t be as lucky as you Georgia Tech people and have Paul Johnson as our coach. We will just have to get by with Mark Richt while you guys get exponentially better every game, once he gets his players in place of course. Then go to bowl games and dominate teams from the inferior SEC. I heard how GT was going to name the score in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. How did that work out? I couldn’t make myself watch.
One question. Do you really think the Flats is the top rung of Paul Johnson’s career ladder?
By jaxdawg
January 6, 2009 1:59 PM | Link to this
Am I the only one who thought the OSU/TX game royally sucked!?! I mean it was like watching paint dry. I was thinking OU might give UF a game in the MNC, but after watching Texas, a team that beat OU by 10 points, UF is going to give OU a beatdown of epic proportions. It’s apparent to me that the SEC is head and shoulders above all other conferences, even in a down year.
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this
WTF???
Let me kindly help your dumbazz out one last time.
Tony’s blog is not a UGA blog. Yesterday the lead topic was something different. The day before the lead topic was the Bama-Utah game.
Today’s lead topic is on UGA keeping 2 assistants but there are also several other points on Tony’s blog where he talks about other programs that have nothing to do with UGA. He talked about Chizik at Auburn and their hiring of minority assistants. Then he talked about Kiffins staff at UT. Then he talked about the Texas-Oh. St game. Lastly, he talked about Tebow at UF and the smack talking going on by OU. How on earth do you get the idea this is a UGA blog when Tony frequently talks about anything but UGA due to its obvious irrelevancy?Today UGA just got lucky and he actually talks briefly about them.
Get a freaking clue and read the dang article you IMBECILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By John
January 6, 2009 2:03 PM | Link to this
One more point with regards to coaching…
I was at the GA-tech game, and ready to run Martinez out of town afterwards…but then I calmed down and realized that the biggest problem with our Defense this year has been the complete lack of penetration by the D-line. That’s Rodney Garner’s domain, and I know no UGA fans want to criticize him, least of all me.
Folks, it’s about injuries, injuries, injuries.
Finally, to those who want to compare Richt to Meyer and Saban, remember that those guys (Meyer and Saban) are like rolling stones. As soon as they get bored, they’ll be off to the next coaching job. Richt is a great coach, and he’s loyal—it’s the best of both worlds.
Frankly, I’m rooting for UF against OK, not out of conference loyalty, but b/c I think that after 2 titles Urban gets bored and moves on. Next up…..Notre Dame? NFL?
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:03 PM | Link to this
Barnhart, may want to get the boys to do an IP trace on SWAMP_MOLESTATION. I’m quite certain from the screen name he had something to do with the Kaylee Anthoney case….
By Munson
January 6, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this
And remind me bama12titles, who won the Fulmer Cup this year??
Yeah, it was Bama genius!
Go look in your own backyard before you start pointing out all of our off field incidents.
Double armed robbery and selling cocaine, nice!
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:08 PM | Link to this
Okay bama12titles… Please don’t come shoot me…
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 2:10 PM | Link to this
jumbo——By all accounts, the LSU-Chavis hire is a very solid choice. LSU defensive efficiency had fallen into the bottom half of all Division I programs, an anomaly explained by the Tigers abysmal defense against the pass. While the rushing defense remained solid (ranked 15th for the season), something had to be done to reverse LSU’s defensive slide. A coaching shake-up was probably needed to return LSU to health. Of course, recruiting a new starting quarterback will help, too.
By and large, Tennessee’s problems were not on the defensive side of the ball. Cutcliffe left for the second time, and the wheels came off the Volunteer offense, and the senior coaching staff was fresh out of ideas. It was time for change, but it remains to be seen if Kiffin is the solution. They certainly are spending a lot of salary money for the new assistants.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:10 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, you’re still a b#tch.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:11 PM | Link to this
Hell yeah, tell him Munson…
Know what ya call a drug ring in Tuscaloosa?
A f#cking HUDDLE!!!!
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 2:14 PM | Link to this
gdawginkalamazoo,
Just as you have to reply to our crazys like Bamastan I have to reply to your idiots like WTF??? I kinda noticed you piling on earlier and posting 21-0 at the end of the 1st qtr. Your assertion that we got punked worse by Utah then you did by WVU is silly and here is why. You only lost by 3 but the game was pretty much over from the start. Also, WVU was a 2 loss team and you got whooped in your own backyard. Utah was unbeaten and finished 13-0. They are clearly a better team. You obviously don’t follow much about the Mountain West conference. The pac10 went 5-0 in bowl games but that conference is owned by the Mountain West which went something like 5-1 and 6-0 against the pac 10 the last 2 years. Most any reasonable person would agree that if the big east is a bcs conference then the mountain west should be one also.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:16 PM | Link to this
btw bama12titles, your inferiority complex is becoming very apparent….
By gdawginkalamazoo
January 6, 2009 2:18 PM | Link to this
jaxdawg, can’t disagree with anything in your post. I thought through the year that the Big 12 was actually the best conference out there. Great games, good QB’s, fast paced offenses, NO defense. Then comes the bowl season. Ole Miss giving Texas Tech an SEC beatdown with a strong defense. Me thinks that OU should shut up and play the game. I can’t wait until the first time Tebow makes it through to the secondary to Mr Franks. There won’t be any of that Big 12 or Big Ten QB high stepping to the sidelines to avoid a hit.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:23 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, if thats what you need to justify Bama’s loss to an inferior MAC opponent then roll with it. Just like the analyst said, there isn’t a kid on Utah’s team that would’ve been recruited by Bama. They had absolutely no (ZERO, NADA, ZILCH) business being on the same field as the Alabama Crimson Tide. Utah is no better than Hawaii was last year. Bama just choked.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:27 PM | Link to this
Man - some of you people are starting to be almost as much of an idiot as I am!!
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 2:31 PM | Link to this
Ghost of Erk Russell,
Talk about living in the past. In response to your probation lets talk about that for a moment.
UGA has had the NCAA bring 6 major infractions cases against it which is tied for 3rd in the ncaa along with about 6 other cases. Bama has had 2 cases you just remember them more because one was in 2005 and was the 2nd worst probation ever handed down.
The difference is that in our case the problem was with boosters from outside coming and swaying players. Nobody can realistically control thousands of boosters and everyone knows of boosters at schools giving $100 handshakes and crap like that. It happens everywhere and to deny it is naive.
In Georgias case it was the actual coaches and the school itself that were doing the cheating. BIG FREAKING DIFFERENCE! What Jan Kemp exposed was institutional in nature and half the reforms brought about by the NCAA regarding entering sat/act scores and entrance requirements stemmed from the systematic cheating she uncovered at UGA. Lets not even get into Jim harrick, etc either. That’s how blatant it was at UGA.
As for arrests who had 2 bad apples, one of which is from Atlanta and booted these punks immediately. Everyone has had at least one or 2 really bad apples, you have Odell Thurman we have Jimmy Johns. The difference is in cleaning it up. CMR in 8 years has not cleaned up the thugs in his program. How do you not have control after 8 years? How can this be? Saban cleaned up Bamas undisciplined bunch from the Shula days in 1 year. Big difference boys.
By BLACKDAWG
January 6, 2009 2:33 PM | Link to this
We are going to miss you honey
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By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this
Yeah, exactly WTF??? Good point
By RedAndBlack
January 6, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this
**Hey Tony, well said! Especially “Gently put, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. And the decisions by Garner and Searles prove it”. Too many know-it-alls. CMR has done a great job at Georgia. He has learned to be a better coach each year in Georgia. Sometimes, things will have to go bad (i.e. Defense) before one realize and admit that things can’t be done the way they have always been. Georgia will be a much better balanced team in the coming years because of his admission.
By mark
January 6, 2009 2:39 PM | Link to this
Tony & others:
There is no doubt that Richt and his staff have taken the program to the next level. But the next level up from mediocrity is good, not great. Have they racked up a ton of wins? Absolutely!! But how do you explain 3 different coaches within the same conference winning a NC? This number should be 4 but we all know Auburn got snubbed in 04.
Urban Meyer is about to win his 2nd and will most definitely compete for another next year. That’s 4 (should be 5) NC in the same conference since Richt started.
Truth is the dawgs only sniffed a chance back in 02. There is a big difference between being good and great and the dawgs aren’t there!!!
By BLACKDAWG
January 6, 2009 2:41 PM | Link to this
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By gdawginkalamazoo
January 6, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, I have no comment on Mr. WTF? I do follow college football so I am very well aware of the MWC.. I think as a conference they went 6-1 versus the PAC-10 (So?). They beat you. I can’t argue about which conference should be included or not, just like I can’t say why Notre Dame should be considered as an independent for the BCS games when their schedule typically has Nayv, Army, Air Force, plus the Coast Guard academy. I won’t debate a useless point. Nothing we say here matters. Maybe WVU beats this years Utah team by 35 points? Who knows who cares. Fact is Bama lost and UGA lost big games on the big stage after great seasons. That can’t be argued and you can’t tell me that you aren’t just as disappointed in your loss to a team you were favored against as I am in ours.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this
gdawg~zoo——Happy New Year to you, too, YHD.
Free advice: Ignore the vitriol if you can; kill’em with kindness if you can’t. And, if you can’t reason with them, ignore them. It drives them nuts. = )
The Auburn-Gus Malzan hire was very surprising to me, but I guess the talking heads thought he had redeemed himself in Tulsa. Houston Nutt has certainly redeemed himself (and the Rebs) in Oxford. Their former QB Mitch Mustain is still buried on the USC depth chart, however. There was apparently plenty of blame to go around for that whole mess.
By MoDawg (a.k.a. 256-160)
January 6, 2009 2:50 PM | Link to this
This is for all the Techsters, since they love keeping their little score (45-42).
My new name shows the combined scores of UGA vs. GT games since 2000.
256-160, advantage UGA!!
Chew on that, stingerless Tigerbaits!
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this
gdawg~zoo——Just read your comment about Tebow. I know he’s a Gator, and you’re a Dawg and all, but don’t you just love watching him play? Well, at least when he’s not playing the Dawgs? The kid is a gamer and true blue, too. The kid’s boyhood idol and role model is Danny Wuerffel. That’s speaks volumes.
Good link for an ESPN bio piece on Tebow:
ESPN Tebow Article 1-6-09
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this
man, I should’ve been ignoring bama12titles this entire time?
By TideGirl
January 6, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this
Tony,
You’re such a Georgia Brown noser. Gees.
By gdawginkalamazoo
January 6, 2009 3:00 PM | Link to this
ATL Gator, my favorite tactic is to buy them a beer. I get the feeling I would go broke doin that on here though.
By MoDawg (a.k.a. 256-160)
January 6, 2009 3:04 PM | Link to this
SWAMP_MOLESTATION (Nice name…and it seems to fit your stupidity. Ask Ole Miss about molestation at The Swamp).
The last time I remember seeing Spikes, he was rolling around on the ground after “No-show” blocked his punk-azz! I realize he was feigning (get your mommy to tell you what that means) injury which just adds to his “punkdom”.
“Maybe again NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! HAHAHA. Next year is always the year of the mutt.” Actually, the “year of the mutt” is coming around more and more, lately. Or have you already forgotten 42-30 in 2007? Enjoy yourself. We’ll field a team next year in Jacksonville, don’t worry.
In spite of obnoxious Gator fans like you, I’d like to see the Gators prevail Thursday night.
Go SEC!!
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 3:04 PM | Link to this
Hey, what is the latest on Orson Charles?
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this
tidegirl, don’t be hatin..
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 3:12 PM | Link to this
WTF???
Allow me to continue to educate you on college football. The MAC is the midamerican conference and consists of teams like Miami of Ohio, Kent St, Toledo, Western and Eastern Michigan, Akron, etc.
Utah plays in the Mountain West conference which consists of teams like Brigham Young, TCU, and of course the UTES. This conferences record speaks for itself. TCU went 11-2 this year, is a constant fixture in the top 25 and BYU is usually a good, respectableteam. BTW, the conference has now won a couple of bcs bowl games.
They’ve manhandled the bcs conference pac10 for 2 years running winning 5-1 head to head this year and 6-0 last year. BTW, the pac10 went 5-0 in their bowl games this year and so apparently the Mountain West turns out to be a pretty good conference if they handled the pac10 which handled everyone else in the bowls.
They are certainly better than the bcs Big East and if you can’t admit that then you are either just blind, stupid, or both.
You need to learn what a FACT is and how a FACT can help you win an disagreement. As it stands all you have is a dumbazz opinion and opinions are like buttholes. Everyone’s got one and they usually stink.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 3:19 PM | Link to this
Did someone say something?
By Atlanta Jackets
January 6, 2009 3:19 PM | Link to this
I’ve got sources that say that Searels may be considering a job with Johnston’s staff at Tech. Richt asked him not to comment on it until after signing day. Watch and see.
By Coondawg69
January 6, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this
In the great state of Georgia, why is it that very few people understand that UGA is not a football school. It is a Gymnastics school.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 3:21 PM | Link to this
Bamastan, is your cousin/brother highjacking your bandwidth???
31-0 AT THE HALF BABY!!!
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 3:25 PM | Link to this
ROFL!!!!! Searels @ Tech… Now that is some funny sh#t….
By Dawg 1
January 6, 2009 3:26 PM | Link to this
Thank you Tony.
Your are 100% correct on all fronts.
Some thoughts for the rest of you clowns:
Bama Folks: Get a life. You had a tremendous year. Feel good about it. Feel good about your future. But try and show a little class and stay off this blog unless you have something intelligent to say. You have a fine coach and continue to recruit well. That’s great, good for your school, but again, try and show just a little class. We know it’s been awhile and we realize that you think it’s your birth right to be the dominate school in the SEC. Guys, those days are OVER. It will be a battle EVERY year. Florida, LSU, Georgia, Auburn and Tennessee are going to be there EVERY year. If there is one dominate school in the SEC today - it’s Florida - deal with it. And look out for Mississippi! Houston Nutt is taking a very talented team and building on it.
Auburn/UT: Your goin to be better than people think next year.
Tech Folks: The whining gets old. CPJ has done a fabulous job, but so far his recruiting does not reflect the success that he has experienced on the field. This is the only area that CCG has out performed CPJ. It’s early, but something he will need to improve upon.
Ohio State: I get it. You live here. Your from there. You get tired of UGA this and UGA that. SEC this and SEC that. Next time you return home, look around at all the OSU this and OSU that. I travel to Ohio. Great folks, love their University. I respect that. Same story, come with something worth reading, get over the fact that OSU means little or nothing in Georgia. UGA means little or nothing in Ohio (as it should be). The Big 10 went 1-6; some of that is match ups, but 1-6? OSU is 0-3 in their last 3 bowl games. You have a superb program, but right now, it’s OSU and Penn State. Next year it will be OSU and one other school. The following year OSU and Michigan (write it down) And until you can sign enough Defensive and Offensive Linemen from the South and West, you will not win another National Title. Write that down too.
UGA Folks: Tony hit it on the head. Both of these coaches stayed because of the strong commitment that the University has to CMR and his commitment to them. They don’t think - they know they are going to win and win in a ‘class’ enviroment. We have the perfect coach at Georgia. One who uses and lives by words like faith, integrity, honesty. And one who understands that we have our fair share of passionate idiots out there (although we are all quickly finding out that we pale in comparison to Alabama). All that fretting over losing CRG because he felt he should be the Defensive Coordinator. CMR is an idiot, CWM has got to go. The best defensive player in the state committed to UGA before he knew what CRG was going to do. Another 10 win season. Florida/Georgia means something again. We now reload and rarely rebuild. We can compete with anyone. In other words - SHUT UP and BE HAPPY!
Okay, I’m in Hong Kong on business. Going back to bed.
By Coondawg69
January 6, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this
In the great state of Georgia, why is it that very few people understand that UGA is not a football school. It is a Gymnastics school.
Sadly enough…. just look at the numbers.
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 3:28 PM | Link to this
gdawginkalamazoo,
What is your point? Of course I’m disappointed that we didn’t show up for the Utah game. I won’t cry and whine about it. We just got beat. Plain and simple and it’ll teach us to appreciate being a good bowl next year even if its not the national championship game that we wanted to be in.
The only shame is that our players admitted before and after the game that playing Utah after losing a national title shot was a huge letdown and they just weren’t excited about playing Utah. Its a shame that they felt that way against a team that deserves a lot more credit.
Putting that aside my only point is that Utah is a much better team than what people give them credit for and their conference is much stronger than what people give them credit for. There is no shame in losing to them. There is only shame in not taking them seriously, not wanting to play in a bcs game that most teams would have loved to been in, and not playing with the passion and focus that we should have been playing with. That’s all.
The only thing that bothers me is the profound ignorance of people on this blog, mostly dawg fans, who think good football is only played in the sec. They act like its more of a case of Bama just sucking than the fact that Utah really is a good football team. I just don’t understand why people act like we got beat by South Dakota State. Could we have shown up and played better? Of course. But my only point is that Utah and the mountain west are simply better than what people on this blog give them credit for.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this
Uh, no.
By MoDawg (a.k.a. 256-160)
January 6, 2009 3:44 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator
With all due respect to you and the fine young man, Tim Tebow…I am about media’ed out on Mr. Tebow, honestly.
Not to detract from the young man because I truly believe he is a class act, (Bama fans may have something to say about that as he was apparently “Gator chomping” at them in the Dome, but I digress) but you can’t turn on the TV or listen to sports talk radio without some Tebow reference.
I hope he goes pro and succeeds so the “love affair” with him settles down a little.
Understandably, Bama fans are a little bewildered after their loss to Utah, but that’s why they play the games. Any given Saturday (bowl game). Utah played harder and faster than Alabama. Remember the “blackout” in Athens this year? They have the same feeling we did after that game. Fall back on your great season Bama fans and know that Alabama football is indeed back where it belongs. In the conversation with the elite SEC programs.
By Oledawg
January 6, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this
Tony-Thanks for your words about our staff. Yes, stability is a great thing at this moment of recruiting. You could have acquainted some of those critics with the fact that Richt already went head-to-head with those two coaches last year and won!
I can’t believe the comments and lack of positive comments about the OSU/UT game last night. Two defensive coordinators put out game plans that were the best defensive efforts I have seen all year. That used to be King Kong in the SEC. My, how times have changed with all the new offenses reeling off points with no defenses around to stop them and we call it football! It’s boring! Now defense is boring to everyone. I detest OSU and Laurinitus(sic?), but he played one great game last night . He was everywhere. And McCoy’s “dink” passes was all that they gave him to work with and that he used to beat OSU. It was a good game , especially with the ending. The reason for my antipathy toward OSU? Because they get pushed into BCS games over better teams. The way they use ESPN and vice-versa is shameful. It’s like they have their own sports channel, something like Fox News has with the Republicans and their followers. Why should they get 2 teams from the weakest of all the “big” conferences in for big money in 2 BCS Bowls? ESPN was trying to give “Beanie” the Heisman before he was injured and there are more than a dozen well deserving players that get short-shrifted when networks favor college teams. Word is that you have to have attended OSU and be under 5ft tall to get a job with ESPN. That sort of favoritism by a sports network will ruin college ball. The comments of many of their pundits already has. I object! And so should most of you! They get in peeing contests with schools and take it to a national audience. The FCC should be held accountable for not holding those jerks accountable.
The Tebow quotes are a good example of what I just wrote. Trying to get an inane comment by putting up other player’s quotes is part of the new media’s ploy for politicizing college sports. Twisting college kids’s comments must make them feel as if they may get a journalism award by suckering those at a disadvantage. The mentally disadvantaged writers are suckering others into regarding college ball like the pros. They feel it is “ok” to hurt players in college professionally before their careers even begin. Something must be done about it or we will lose the last chance to see young players strive for heights they could only have imagined in any endeavor.
By Dawg 1
January 6, 2009 3:50 PM | Link to this
Sorry, I don’t know the difference between your & you’re but go dawgs!
By Dawg 1
January 6, 2009 3:50 PM | Link to this
Sorry, I don’t know the difference between your & you’re but go dawgs!
By iz4bama
January 6, 2009 3:52 PM | Link to this
I’m guilty of not being excited to play Utah too. Turns out they were for real and we underestimated them. That said, I still believe in my heart 100%, had we not lost Smith, we still would have beat them.
By gdawginkalamazoo
January 6, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, maybe you didn’t read my post above. I wrote that I do follow college football. I like it better than the NFL because the kids are working harder to make it to the big leagues and the competition week in and week out is getting better every year. Of course Utah is a very good team. From the looks of the game they had a lot of athletes on the field, they ran their schedule. Doesn’t matter what conference you are in in D1 football that takes determination and focus. Vote them #1 if it makes you feel better. Your coach was the one that dissed their conference not us. Maybe he feels better now.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 4:00 PM | Link to this
Ah, didn’t catch that… Good call
By Will
January 6, 2009 4:02 PM | Link to this
Big Tone,
Well said about CMR. Although the season didn’t go as we predicted, some of the posts here were way out of line. I’m really amazed about how many stupid people there really are in this country. I mean who would have thought Al Franken would be a U.S. Senator!
By typical bulldawg fan
January 6, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this
I beat off to a poster of Mark rickt!!!
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 4:05 PM | Link to this
iz4bama - I’m with ya, I think a healthy Bama O-line dominates Utah. I guess it comes with the territory.
By The Fan
January 6, 2009 4:07 PM | Link to this
Tony, thank you for stating what the vast majority og Georgia fans already know. Mark Richt is a REAL man, a man of integrity and principle, and a man who values family and faith. I am thankful he is our coach. I hope he is for a very long time.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this
Wow, must be a converted Tech fan….
By Gman
January 6, 2009 4:10 PM | Link to this
I actually used to like Bama as a pretty friendly rival. I used to respect their program. Bama Stan and the rest of you braying crimson a*******es have changed all that. I laughed my a$$ off watching the Utah game. They couldn’t score enough. The humiliation couldn’t be extreme enough.
While true, we deserved plenty of ridicule for that game back in September. But continuing to mock us every day for the past 2 months despite Bama’s own 2 game losing streak (the last of which was a 4 star conference embarrassment) is a bit much.
You’d think (I used to think) Bama fans had gained an ounce of humility after wondering the football desert for the past several years.
May Bama Stan and the rest of you sanctimonious crimson gasbags rot at the bottom of the SEC. Your coach will move to greener pastures soon enough and you’ll be back to worrying about those 6 wins needed to become bowl-eligible.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 4:10 PM | Link to this
gdawg~zoo——Hey, if you’re buying beers for the blog jerks, I can be one, too!
By typical bulldawg fan
January 6, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this
or George bush would have been elected…
TWICE!
By AFDawg
January 6, 2009 4:15 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, Just out of curiousity — are you a juvenile? You talk like one. Take out your frustrations about Bama getting embarassed in the Sugar Bowl somewhere else. If you’re going to make points, you need to tell the entire story. UGA stomping on the Vandy logo was pay-back for the year before when Vandy did it to us. I know — I was there. I told the Vandy fans we would pay them back, and that’s exactly what the Dawgs did. Dog fans would have been disappointed if there had not been any retribution. As for the FL/GA thing — Tebow getting warned by the ref to quit celebrating outside of the player bench area and Urban taking the time-outs at the end of the game were pay-back for the year before. The FL fans would have been disappointed if there had not been any retribution. It’s all part of college football. Sit back, don’t get so emotional, and enjoy it — it’s what makes college football so much more fun to watch than the pros.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 4:19 PM | Link to this
G Dub was elected twice, ya f#ckin waterhead…
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 4:20 PM | Link to this
you have Gator in your s/n, you’re already in…
By Denver dog
January 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Link to this
You folks must be drinking early on the East Coast today. A few comments
The main reason that Garner stayed at UGA is because of the atmosphere created by UGA people and of course our head coach. it is class.
Anyone that wants to dis Tebow, should do so where nobody can read it or hear it. It proves how stupid you are if you don’t see what a classy person he is. Even if he is a Gator
Alabama and South Carolina embarassed the conference. Saban had to coach 3 games this year. He did ok against UGA, but he blew Fla and the Sugar Bowl. South Carolina just got out talented.
Ohio State proved again that it did not deserve the high recognition that it gets. 29 seniors on that team. No real speed. They look like a step below Texas. It was indeed a great game, and if the Thursday game is that good, we will all have fun!
The bottom line for dog fans is we have a great program, great coaches, and of course, the most beautiful campus in the conference. We have everything to look forward to, and nothing to regret.
Go Dogs
By SecIsFootball
January 6, 2009 4:28 PM | Link to this
MoDawg….speaking as a BAMA fan, I cannot fault Tebow for gator chomping during or after the game. The kid is intense and loves UF and shows it on the field. Off the field he is a class act and I am sure the type that any parent would want their son to grow up like. At the same time, I am with you on the constant media attention he got. It was painful listening to Gary Danielson this year during CBS games. It was Tebow this..Tebow that. And that was during a game that didnt even involve UF!!
As for the Utah game, to say BAMA fans are bewildered is an understatement! I was shocked that we didnt even show up. Taking nothing from Utah, they played great, but BAMA was not as bad as we showed in NO and I am sure it was because of many different reasons. We didnt get the job done and it sucked. In the end though, I am very happy with this past season and am confident the program is in good hands. With the recruiting we have going on and the current staff, I expect us to be competetive in the league each year!
By SecIsFootball
January 6, 2009 4:31 PM | Link to this
Gman….I am glad to see you can let a few message board morons ruin your opinion of an entire fan base. I know some UGA fans who are complete idoits and other UGA fans that are embarrassed that they cheer for the same team. But, I guess I am just smart enough to know better that 5, 10, 15 fans (which may be the # of BAMA fans on here) dont make an entire fan base!
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 4:37 PM | Link to this
AFdawg,
We will just have to agree to disagree. You think its juvenile of me to not enjoy taunting and that taunting and poor sportsmanship is what makes college football so enjoyable. I think its just poor sportsmanship to taunt. Apparently, in your book 2 wrongs make a right and if someone stomps on your logo you should just return the favor. Now I see where you’re coming from. Now I ask you ” Who’s being juvenile?”
By Halsey
January 6, 2009 4:42 PM | Link to this
UGA seems to be making a really nice recovery from a disappointing season that could have thrown them into a downward spiral. Keeping important coaches and getting a huge commitment from a high profile recruit is good for the overall vibes of the program. Now they will hopefully finish the recruiting season strong.
By GHOST OF ERK RUSSELL
January 6, 2009 4:46 PM | Link to this
WTF-about the 2 o lineman you lost-that explains the offensive questions but Utah stomped you on both sides of the ball.MOST EMBARRASING LOSS IN THE HISTORY OF THE SEC.
By Dr. Sigmund Freud
January 6, 2009 4:47 PM | Link to this
Tony, I believe I have the diagnosis for the people who criticize coaches Richt and Martinez on this blog. Hyperventilation overdoses the brain, causing a false sense of superintelligence. This explains the comments against Richt and Martinez, who are accomplished coaches by bloggers who are not.
It’s either that or methamphetamine.
By Atlanta Jackets
January 6, 2009 5:00 PM | Link to this
Tony can you write something about the resurgence of the Tech program and how we’re the best team in the state? I’d love for the Georgia fans to see that in writing from you.
Also tell me how the Robot Nesbitt will do next year. Is he the Heisman candidate that we all think he will be?
By Munson
January 6, 2009 5:04 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, you left out a key part of your UGA-Vandy story. What did Richt do as soon he saw the celebrating on the Vandy logo?
That’s right, he stopped it right there by practically tackling the players who were doing it.
And for the record, we all know that Utah is better than anyone is giving them credit for, but lets be real here, had we lost to Hawaii last year, your Bama brethren would still be here rubbing our noses in it.
By Gman
January 6, 2009 5:06 PM | Link to this
SECIsFootball:
Point well taken. I now live in CA and the only exposure I have from the Bama fan base is on here. I don’t troll the Bama papers or the Bama blogs. Unfortunately Bama Stan and these other self-deluded a*******es live on the ajc blog and are constantly in my face as I read about the dogs and CFB in general.
I’ve honestly never seen such constant ridicule from fans of a real program (it’s expected from Tech and USCjr). UF fans certainly have fun at our expense (deserved) but even they aren’t as bad as these necks from Bama. In fact, Atlanta Gator is one of my favorite bloggers.
By Bama12titles is a transvestite and Bama Stan is his/her B#@ch
January 6, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this
Bama 12 titles has got to be having hormonal issues. After being b#@ch slapped by Florida and Utah Bama has nothing to crow about. Bama shot their wad at Georgia and barely beat Kentucky, Ole Miss and LSU.
Next time you and Bama Stan bed down say your prayers and be thankful you had as much luck as you did this year.
It is good to see you boys come out of the closet after a decade of mediocrity.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 5:10 PM | Link to this
GHOST OF ERK RUSSELL——No, Alabama’s 31-17 to Utah loss was not even close to being the SEC’s most embarrassing loss. The worst loss that I remember was the 1995 Fiesta Bowl, where Nebraska destroyed a 12-0 SEC champion Florida Gators team by a score of 62-24. As bad as the final 38-point margin was, it was really worse, because the Gators got some 4th quarter trash points against the Huskers 3rd-string defense.
That game was before halftime, and it still brings back memories of a great game party that was deserted before the start of the 3rd quarter.
By goldendawg 84
January 6, 2009 5:17 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator:
If memory serves that game vs Nebraska served as a springboard to future success. SOS immediately went out and hired Stoops. UF had a great defense the year after and avenged that loss with a MNC in very convincing fashion. May we all avenge our humiliating losses in such a fashion.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 5:33 PM | Link to this
goldendawg 84——Ah, grasshopper, your memory is strong. It’s true, there was a Gators sequel with even more drama the following season, but that 1995-96 Fiesta Bowl game was not a lot of fun if you were cheering for the Gators (or the SEC).
Nevertheless, the Evil Genius canned Ron Zook and hired Bob Stoops, Danny Wuerffel returned for his senior season and won the Heisman, and the Gators won their first national championship by defeating their primary in-state rival, FSU, by a score of 52-20 in the 1996-97 Sugar Bowl.
The moral of the story? It pays to have a properly motivated bowl team (and a top-flight defense). Ask Nick Saban.
By GHOST OF ERK RUSSELL
January 6, 2009 5:33 PM | Link to this
ATLANTA GATOR-respect your opinion but disagree those Nebraska teams of Tom Osbornes era were scary good.Utah is a 3 or 4 loss team in the SEC.The years of Vandy and Kentucky layups are over.It is brutal to have to recover every week in the SEC physically.Utah played a few respectable teams but not 8 or 9 that SEC teams have to get through.I think this season will prove again how dominate the SEC is bowl records etc.Where is the national champions coming from again this year?SEC 3 NC IN A ROW. Im not a gator lover but always pull for the conference.
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 5:35 PM | Link to this
Gman,
What a load of crap. The amount of razzing that Bama fans gave UGA after the blackout game was minimal compared to the amount of hatin we got from UGA bloggers both before the season and especially after the Utah game. After the blackout game it was Bamastan, nachos, and maybe one other guy that ragged dawg fans all day on this blog. It just seems like a lot more cause Bamastan must have said 31-0 about 600 times. Same with nachos. He of course is conspiculously absent after the Utah loss.
Compare that with the sheer glee from countless dawg fans both today and especially the day after the sugar bowl. Must have been about 100 posts almost all from dawg fans the next day on Tony’s blog blasting Bama over losing that game. This is Tuesday 4 days later and looking at all the posts today you still see a boatload of dawg fans hating on Bama over the Utah game.
Have some perspective. There is no way any rational person can sit there and say that the amount of negative posting of uga by bama fans is anywhere near close to the amount of negative posting dawg fans do about bama. It aint even close and I’m 100% sure that the neutral bloggers on this site would agree.
By **The Blog Referee**
January 6, 2009 5:37 PM | Link to this
Fifteen yards for unnecessary nastiness!
“bama12titles” is a passionate Crimson Tide fan who contributes interesting tidbits to Mr. CFB’s blog.
“Bama Stan” is a wanker.
Lumping them is a discredit to the anonymous blogger who did so.
Now, go sit on the blog bench until you cool off.
By **The Blog Referee**
January 6, 2009 5:44 PM | Link to this
GHOST——I politely disagree. The 2008 Utah team would be a 1 or 2-loss team in the SEC, with a 50-50 shot at playing for the conference title. I think the Gators would take the Utes in a neutral site game, and Bama would beat them 6 out of 10 tries. Nevertheless, that’s still pretty high praise for a mid-major that has only recently arrived on the big-time football scene.
I am also allowing for the fact that this was an “off” year for the SEC, with traditional bowl teams Auburn and Tennessee finishing with losing records, and LSU suffering from a post-championship hangover and no starting quarterback.
By the truth
January 6, 2009 5:49 PM | Link to this
Ghost of Erk Russell,
If Utah is a 3-4 loss team if they play in the sec then how did they convincingly beat a 1 loss sec team in Alabama. And how did they beat them far more convincingly than the 1 sec team Fla that did beat bama.
By Rod
January 6, 2009 6:06 PM | Link to this
“Gently put, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. And the decisions by Garner and Searles prove it.”
Thank you Tony Barnhardt for having the gravitas to call out the idiots around here that talk out there Azz! We can include idiots like Mark Mradley as well, he perpetuates the bafoons that say stupid stuff about our great head coach at UGA. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you again Mr. Barnhart.
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 6:09 PM | Link to this
Ghost of Erk Russell,
I am kind of humored after seeing your comment that our Sugar Bowl loss was the most embarrassing sec loss of all time. WOW! Talk about over the top crazy talk. That’s just ludicrous crazy talk. Where do people come up with stuff like that?
Losing by 14 pts to a now 13-0 team is the most embarrassing game in sec history. Really??????
It seems to me that the Sugar Bowl beatdown of Georgia by West Virginia is equally if not more embarrassing. At least Utah was unbeaten and had beaten some good teams like TCU. WVU had 2 losses. Talk about a physical beatdown they shredded the dawg D for 366 yards. Now that is embarrassing.
By GHOST OF ERK RUSSELL
January 6, 2009 6:14 PM | Link to this
The Truth and Ref-Not trying to take anything away from what Utah did just think SEC grind would be too much,clearly Tide was not motivated wanted to be somewhere else.UGA did not want to be where they were and it showed for a half.Tide showed no heart and the entire world was watching.
By Gen Neyland
January 6, 2009 6:15 PM | Link to this
In all fairness to Tennessee spending their money, it’s their money.
By ES
January 6, 2009 6:17 PM | Link to this
The SEC was down this year compared to past years. I agree that Utah beat Ala alot worse than Fl.I know Ala had lost a O-lineman but that had nothing to do with there defense.Heck this year they might have went undefeated,but this same team during the season when teams are up for every game might have lost to teams like Kentucky ask Bama.The fact is that Ala gave Fl a very good game,and the way Utah beat Bama makes me believe they could beat Fl,but you know what? Its college football and we will never know. Its another MYTHICAL NC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Gman
January 6, 2009 6:24 PM | Link to this
Bama12Titles: Thank your buddy Bama Stan for the razzing. He poked, kicked and spit on us every day for 3.5 months (all in the name of the hallowed Crimsen Tide)and you expected better from us after that diaster as SEC representative??
Been a dawg fan for 35 years and seriously don’t think many UGA fans would have gotten any measure of pleasure from your Sugar Bowl debacle was it not for Bama Stan and a few others.
Most dawg fans I know always pull for the conference had have no unusal animosity towards the Tide. Unfortunately, Bama Stan is the face of Alabama football on this blog. And as such, Alabama can’t lose often enough to suit us.
I guess our previous 3 wins vs Bama drove him over the edge. Too bad we have to wait a few years to make it 4 out of 5.
By GHOST OF ERK RUSSELL
January 6, 2009 6:24 PM | Link to this
Bama 12-Georgia Sugar Bowl with W VA was a 3 point game.Utah stomped you from the gun.You think my comment is crazy -ok try this- name another mtn west that physically crushed a top 5 sec team in a major bowl in NCAA history.Yea thats what i thought.21-0 1st qtr BAMA STAN
By Old Dawg
January 6, 2009 6:32 PM | Link to this
bama12titles …
Granted, WVU did begin its game with a big lead, but the final was 38-35. Not quite the beat down you described. Georgia had an explosive night on offense as well … just didn’t get it going until too late.
You’re right, in some respects, about the posts being negative about Alabama. At the same time, Bama fans need to have a little balance in their perspectives as well. We all get a little too passionate about our teams and lose sight of reality.
In reality, Atlanta Gator is right. Florida’s loss to Nebraska is the worst SEC performance in a title game in a long time. There have been others, like a Bama loss to Nebraska in the 70s. But 62-24 is hall of shame material.
And Darth Visor was the coach. Who would have thunk it?
By Pitbull
January 6, 2009 6:32 PM | Link to this
This 1973 grad thinks Coach Richt is doing a fantastic job. He is 82-22 in 8 seasons and he did a fantastic job with all of the injuries this past season. Of course injuries dictate how you practice. Losing a player in practice is just as devastating as losing one in a game.
We are fortunate to have such a quality coach and the only reason that other schools are not beating our doors down to hire him is his statment that “he will remain at Georgia as long as Georgia wants him.” What a great committment.
I know the posers from other schools hate him and there are a handfull of unrealistic Ga “fans” that think 10+ wins over 8 years is not good enough for them. They are all losers, and losers hate winners.
We are indeed blessed to have him and I know we will have a successful recruiting class coming in soon just because they want to play for Coach Richt.
Here is Coach Richt’s record:
Mississippi 4-0
Arkansas 4-0
Mississippi State 2-0
Georgia Tech 7-1
Kentucky 7-1
Vanderbilt 7-1
South Carolina 6-2
Tennessee 5-3
Auburn 5-3
Alabama 3-1
LSU 3-2
Florida 2-6
Other schools that have beaten Florida twice in the past 8 years include?
Only 2 losses outside the SEC: Boston College in 2001 bowl and West Virginia in 2005 bowl. Mighty dang good.
By ES
January 6, 2009 6:37 PM | Link to this
BTW I believe Florida is going to win by a couple of TD’s against Oklahoma,Texas is still the only team in the Big 12 with somewhat of a defense and its not great,but it is going to be fun to watch Bradford Light up this bad Fl pass defense.Most of the SEC QB’s this year was bad,which made Fl’s numbers on Def look better than they actually are.Oklahoma is going to throw all over Fl,and its going to be fun to watch can’t wait to watch 4.69 Janoris Jenkins get lit up!
By NY Dawg
January 6, 2009 6:40 PM | Link to this
Bama12titles: You really think a 3 point loss to WVU in the ’06 Sugar Bowl was worse than that complete a$$-whipping Bama received earlier this week. I guess you and Bama Stan only count the first half scores.
Whatever gets you through the night….
By Hiawatha Berry
January 6, 2009 6:53 PM | Link to this
Bama12titles: WVU was 11-1 the year they beat us by 3 points. Pat White and Steve Slayton snuck up on us - turned out to be pretty good players. The all-time SEC embarrassment? not hardly
What is your excuse?? Oh yeah, you lost an O-lineman before the game. WOW, that must have been rough.
By Georgia Stan
January 6, 2009 7:07 PM | Link to this
30-10 IN THE SECOND HALF
OK, Bama12titles losing to WVU by 3 was a real crime compared to that 14 pt anal rape of the Tide by Utah. Nice try though.
By Munson
January 6, 2009 7:10 PM | Link to this
bama12titles, come on man, get your sh@t together. You call UGA’s loss to WVU a beatdown, it was 3 frickin points. Does that make Bama’s loss to Utah a massacre then?
And check your facts man, West Virginia was 11-1 the year they beat UGA, not the two loss crap team you keep painting them to be.
But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good insult!
By BILLY JACK
January 6, 2009 7:15 PM | Link to this
PIT BULL-GREAT POST AND ALL DOCUMENTED FACT.
By DH
January 6, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this
TB. The asst coaches. It is the money S. Do you not think that UGA didn’t bump Garner and Sorrells? Garner has TALKED with two schools this year for gosh sakes. Are you serious ? Don’t be a Howard Cosell type talking head that states the obvious after the fact
By longtimedawg
January 6, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this
Numbers for you # guys. in the past 8 seasons since CMR has been at UGA the following are the top 10 programs in order for wins in 8 seasons: OKLA Boise State USC Texas Ohio State UGA LSU Virgina Tech Miami Fla
SEC Conference games winning % in order top to bottom: LSU 75% Aub 73% UGA 71% Fla 70% Tenn 66% Bama 48%
CMR is a very good coach!
By 2N4YEARS
January 6, 2009 7:36 PM | Link to this
Everybody calm down. Bama12titles only comes on here to get everybody riled up. Fact is UGA has beaten BAMA 3 out of the last 4 times they’ve played. Fact is you have to go back 30,40 or 50 years to keep a straight face and brag about ALA football. Fact is I have TWO SEC Championship Cokes on my desk -1 from ‘02 and 1 from ‘05. Bama12titles only has rusted cans to show for any championships they have. BAMA has no titles this century. BAMA lost the SEC Championship game they played in. Until BAMA beats UGA by more than 11 points, wins for two years in a row, they have no bragging rights; only jealousy and envy. I guess I could brag about UGA’s record against the Gators but it’s useless. I’m concentrated on the future, not the past. I’m waiting to read the headlines anyday now ‘Alabama players have rings made reading ‘2008 SEC West Champs’ or ‘2008-12-2’, or ‘SEC Runner-up’. The other day Bama12titles said he had “no shame” in losing to a good Utah team. Ha. He must not have been at the game because all of those BAMA fans they showed on the big screen sure looked embarrassed. Not only did ALA get beat all over the Super Dome, but it came way of a non-BCS school. Heck, I’m embarrassed for them. What a joke.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 7:42 PM | Link to this
Pitbull:
Here’s the short list of teams that have beaten the Gators 2 or more times during the past 8 years:
(4) LSU (2002, 2004, 2005 & 2007)
(3) Miami ( 2002, 2003, 2004)
(3) Ole Miss (2002, 2003 & 2008)
(2) Auburn (2006 & 2007)
(2) Florida State (2002 & 2003)
(2) Georgia (2004 & 2007)
(2) Michigan (2002 & 2007)
(2) Tennessee (2003 & 2004)
LSU has the best record against Florida over the last 8 seasons (4-4 or .500). Since 1990, Ole Miss has the best record against Florida (3-3 or .500); LSU is only 14-5 (or .263) over the longer time horizon vs. Spurrier, Zook & Meyer.
By War Eagle
January 6, 2009 7:47 PM | Link to this
pitbull, Auburn has beat Florida 3 times in last 8 years. Coach CGC was a questionable hire at Auburn, CSS and CRG both would been a great hire, but he seems to have put his OFFENSIVE and RECRUITING as a fan and alumni support rally. He has mine and best to Auburn football. AUBURN WILL REBOUND
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 9:04 PM | Link to this
2n4years,
So Bama hasn’t been a factor in 30 or 40 years. Yawn. My what a freaking ignoramus you are. Seems to me we were the 5th winningest program of the 90s and the dominant force in the west. We also won an nc in 92 which is 16 years ago, not 30 or 40 you blithering idiot. You just like the dawg fans. You’re just ticked because the only time LSU has ever been relevant was when Bama was down in the 2000s due to probation. And oh, BTW, the guy who built you up from an also ran(see 8 losing seasons in 11 years before he got there) is now at bama. You can’t stop what’s happening which is Bama’s return to dominance in the west. Get used to it. And while we’re talking about records what is your overall record against Bama. Something like 45-24 in our favor, almost 2-1. No wonder you hate us. Now that all of Saban’s players have cycled their way through get ready for your return to the cellar where you belong.
As to the other dawg fans give it a rest. Losing by 14 to Utah is not a raping, getting pounded 49-10 to your biggest rival is an anal raping. I was surprised you showed up to play the gators though. I thought we left your limp, broken bodies lying on the Sanford turf on blackout night. Go back to being irrelevant just like LSWho. 2 sec titles in 28 years aint crap.
By Bret
January 6, 2009 9:09 PM | Link to this
Great job Tony! You know your stuff and despite the idiots that dog you in this column on a regular basis, you continue to deliver great insight. I wonder how many of these jack asses ever played the game we love so much. I love the column, but darn I have a hard time reading the comments…pathetic. You have to feel sorry for idiots who have to bash a writer…what a pathetic life. Oh, I played the game and many others. I had my own jersey so I don’t have to wear another man’s jersey to feel like a real fan. Thanks Tony…damn I hope they pay you well to put up with these morons.
By dawgamillion
January 6, 2009 9:24 PM | Link to this
Bama12: Keep stretching the timeline back to try and make your point. If the 70’s are still relevant than so is Bama.
BTW, when we played UF we were missing an O-lineman. I know it sounds lame but I figured you guys were working it so hard I’d give it a try.
Thanks for clearing up the anal rape definition. I’m sure you and Bama Stan are authorities on the subject.
By southgadog
January 6, 2009 9:31 PM | Link to this
Tony, I agree with most you said, but you are wrong on fans question regarding Richts no nads with EM and DS. The doubt was about non produceing assitants.
By BILLY JACK
January 6, 2009 9:31 PM | Link to this
BAMA 12-SERIES RECORD 25-35-4 TIDE FAVOR UGA 3 OUT OF 4 LATELY AND SHOULD CLOSE GAP THIS DECADE AND NEXT.THE SAD PART ABOUT IT- IN TEN YEARS YOULL STILL BE BAMA 12.JACKASS!!!DONT COME ON IF YOU DONT HAVE CORRECT FACTS-THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY MATTERS IS MARK RICHT ERA WITH BAMA 3-1 UGA.THOSE ARE THE FACTS AND THEY ARE UNDISPUTED.
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 9:38 PM | Link to this
Sorry dawgamillion,
Why do I have to go back to the 70s when bama was the 5th winningest program of the 90s. Or did you not know that? Probation was the only thing that kept us down in the early 2000s and now that is over we’re simply going back to where we were in the 90s as the dominant power in the west. Just deal with it and get over it.
BTW, we were actually missing 2 olineman for Utah, the other went down early in the 1st qtr. But there aint no exscuses we just plain got beat. Your exscuse is the same as always. We just got the hell beat out of us.
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 9:41 PM | Link to this
Yo Billy jack,
its actually now 36-25 after the raping of the dawg nation on blackout night. Git yore facts straight hillbilly. Mark Richt beat 3 probation ridden teams that were down 21 schollies but if it makes you feel better to ignore this year and live in the past then just be my guest and keep living in the past.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 9:57 PM | Link to this
Alright then. You Tide and Dawg folks seem determined to bash each other this evening. Just for fun, let’s see what SEC teams have the most SEC championships over the last 20 years.
Why 20 years, you ask? Well, several reasons. First,. I’m a Gator, and the only SEC title we won prior to 1991 was in 1984. (It was taken away by a 5-4 vote of the other conference members because the Gators had some problems with recruiting, among other things, under Charley Pell.) Second, 20 years represents a time period before which most of the current players were born, and none of the current SEC coaches were head coaches in the SEC. (Only Spurrier has been in around since 1990.) Third, the “modern” era of the SEC started when we started to play 7-game conference schedules in 1988, followed by 8-game conference schedules with a championship game after the addition of Arkansas and South Carolina in 1992. So, the 20-year horizon is not entirely arbitrary.
You already know Florida has won the most SEC titles during that time period, but what is the pecking order of everyone else?
(8) Florida (91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 00, 06, 08)
(4) Tennessee (89*, 90, 97, 98)
(3) Alabama (89*, 92, 99)
(3) LSU (01, 03, 07)
(2) Auburn (89*, 04)
(2) Georgia (02, 05)
There was a 3-way tie for the SEC conference championship, with no tie-breaker, among Alabama, Auburn and Tennessee in 1989. For those of you who are old enough to remember, things were different then. The Gators never won, and others often shared the conference title because the SEC played 6-game conference schedules.
My real point being, however, that other than Florida, there has been no really dominant team. Tide, Tiger, Dawg and Vol fans arguing whether your school won 2, 3 or even 4 SEC championships over the last 20 years smacks a little bit of the vanity of close differences.
As for national titles, it’s a shorter list:
(2) Florida (96, 06)
(2) LSU (03, 07)
(1) Alabama (92)
(1) Tennessee (98)
So, among the 6 SEC teams that have won championships during the last 2 decades, only Georgia and Auburn have not won a national title. So, for the last 20 years, my SEC “elite” pecking order is
(#1) Florida (#2) Tennessee (#3) LSU (#4) Alabama (#5) Auburn & Georgia (tie)
So, let’s play nice, boys. Six out of twelve SEC teams have something to brag about.
Anyone care to dispute my pecking order, or would you rather call each other names?
By WOW!
January 6, 2009 9:59 PM | Link to this
bama12titles-
Have you not realized that mutt fans will always resort to whatever stats work to their favor? If they lose this year (all that REALLY matter is THIS YEAR) then they talk about how they lead the series. If they do not lead the series, then they cherry pick which time period that they want to look at. But whenever UF talks about OWNING the mutts since 1990, the mutts defer to the overall series, and that UF is pathetic for only talking about recent history. These guys are pathetic. Losers.
By WOW!
January 6, 2009 9:59 PM | Link to this
bama12titles-
Have you not realized that mutt fans will always resort to whatever stats work to their favor? If they lose this year (all that REALLY matter is THIS YEAR) then they talk about how they lead the series. If they do not lead the series, then they cherry pick which time period that they want to look at. But whenever UF talks about OWNING the mutts since 1990, the mutts defer to the overall series, and that UF is pathetic for only talking about recent history. These guys are pathetic. Losers.
By BILLY JACK
January 6, 2009 10:09 PM | Link to this
GOT 12-ALL I HEAR FROM YOU IS WE WERE ON PROBATION WE LOST OUR O-LINEMAN-OUR NEW COACH WAS FOUND IN A MOTEL ROOM WITH A STRIPPER WITH TIDE CREDIT CARDS ETC.YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RECENT HISTORY LETS DO IT-UNTIL THIS YEAR BAMA HAS BEEN TOTALLY INSIGNIFICANT IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR 10 YRS-IS THAT RECENT ENOUGH FOR YOU.UGA AT LEAST HAS 2 SEC TITLES RECENTLY AND PLAYED FOR 3.WHEN EVERYONE ELSE FORGETS ABOUT OUR LOSS TO THE TIDE IN 2008- EVEN PEOPLE IN ALASKA WILL REMEMBER YOU BEING STOMPED BT A MTN WEST TEAM-NOW THATS EMBARRASING.21-0 1ST QTR BAMA STAN
By BILLY JACK
January 6, 2009 10:11 PM | Link to this
HEY WOW -YOU ONLY HAVE TO HIT THE POST BUTTON ONCE YOU PATHETIC JACKASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 10:22 PM | Link to this
TO WOW,
Trust me. I’ve found out how much dawg fans love to pick a point in time that favors their point of view. Its funny but before the season they were all busting on Bama about living in the past and digging up the bear and all that nonsense. Of course now that this season is over they want to talk about the past, not the complete past but just the past since 2002. It really is remarkable.
Atlanta gator,
You know me. I always try to keep it respectable but I just can’t seem to read tony’s blog without seeing some dawg fans start taking jabs at the tide usually within the first 5 or 10 posts. And its usually when Tonys blog doesn’t even really have anything of importance to say about Bama. They’ll start taking their digs and sooner or later I just got to say something. Today I’m taking my gloves off though since they were getting particularly nasty.
In reference to your ranking over the last 20 years I largely agree with it but I would move Bama to 3rd behind Tennessee but ahead of LSU. Why ahead of LSU. Because if we are looking at 20 years they were terrible throughout the 90s. 8 losing seasons in 11 years preceding Sabans arrival in 2000. Sure, they’ve been great in the last 5 years but other than 5 years out of a 20 year time frame they were terrible. Bama was dominant throughout the 90s, only UF was better. And in the 2000s we’ve had 3 losing seasons due to the probation but as inconsistent as we’ve been we still managed 4 10 win seasons in the last 9 years. A little more overall consistency over the last 20 years than LSU, especially during the lean years when we at least had some intermittent success while LSU had none at all. I’ll patiently await your retort sir.
By SecIsFootball
January 6, 2009 10:29 PM | Link to this
dawgamillion….I find your comment funny because whenever i hear UF fans floating about winning 15 of 18, you guys always bring up the overall record. But, if we take things back a few years, you find that unacceptable. If you would like, I will post the overall series record against UGA if you would like but I am sure it is not a valid arguement. Only for UGA fans talking about UF right?
By longtimedawg
January 6, 2009 10:43 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator…check this link out it spans winning percentage for 100 years. That is the real measuring tool for a program is longevity…Not just the past 20 years why not the past 40 or 55 years. FACT: UF is just been competitive since 1992. Prior to that NO championships of any kind. SEE link…http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1908&end=2007&rpct=90&min=5&ss=on&se=on&c1a=on&by=Win+Pct Over the past 8 years UGA tops the gators in wins… so lets use those years in determining superior programs?
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 10:54 PM | Link to this
bama12titles——You know your handle should really be “bama11titles,” right? Most commentators only credit the Tide with 11 (not 12) consensus titles, but back in the day when 2 dozen different polls and publications were handing out “championships,” things were different.
So many people talk about how things were better before the BCS. I have to throw the BS flag on that. The BCS is a mess, but it’s still an improvement over what came before. Were you aware that the AP and several other rating services named their “champion” before the bowls were played as recently as the early 1970s? Did you know that Alabama was recognized as a consensus national champion in 1964 and 1973, and then proceeded to lose its bowl games in those years. Yeah, things are better now, and most peoples’ memories are short and selective.
As for my ranking of Alabama vs. LSU among the SEC elite teams of the past 20 years … well, both won 3 SEC titles, but LSU won two national titles, and Bama only won one MNC. That’s a pretty strong tie-breaker in favor LSU, especially in the era of number 1 vs. number 2 championship bowls. Yes, I do recognize that Bama was far stronger and more consistent during the 1990s, but LSU has capitalized on their national title opportunities when presented. So, my ranking of SEC elite teams is something else you can blame on the BCS, I suppose. LOL
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 10:59 PM | Link to this
Billy Jack,
Typical. You only want to use the last 10 years but we can do that. Bama has had 4 10 game or more winning seasons, 1 sec title, 2 appearances, and were kept out of a 3rd appearance due to probation in 2002. Georgia was slightly better with 3 appearances and 2 titles and no ncs. We had 5 years of probation where we lost 21 schollies. Its actually kinda funny but when we were at our worst and you were at the best you’ve been in 28 years you still were barely slightly better. Now that probation is over I think we can expect that things will go back to the way they were in the 90s.
Longtime dawg, I saw an ESPN stat before the season that stated from 1998-2007 Notre Dame was the winningest program with 743 wins coming into this season. bama was second at 742. If we look now at 1908 through 2008 then it looks like we are now the nations alltime winnest program at 754 wins with Notre Dame 2nd at 750. Thanks for bringing up the issue of looking back 100 years. It suits me just fine.
By Dogs are delusional
January 6, 2009 11:05 PM | Link to this
Only the mutts bring up series records as if it means anything in the here and now and only when it works in their favor unlike the series with Bama or UT. Even though you have to be well over 50 years old to have seen a winning record vs. UF in your lifetime and I bet that excludes the large majority of mutts here. So keep on bragging about games your great great grandfathers won for UGA vs. Uf in the World War 1 era and Gator fans will continue to laugh at your inferiority complex that is so bad you resort to lame touts about series records and when all else fails breakout the Jean Short jokes even though thats worse than a pot calling a kettle black.
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 11:09 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator,
I absolutely do recognize that some people credit us with only 11 ncs and I also recognize that in 2 of those seasons the champ was decided before the bowl game and that we lost 2 bowl games after after being named natl champs.
But there is a flip side to that story. There were times we finished number 2 or 3 and the team in front of us lost their bowl. Their was the 1976-77 theft of a national title from us. Notre Dame pole vaulted us from 5th to 1st after the no. 1 and 2 teams lost. We romped in our bowl game 35-6 over Ohio st and they romped no. 1 texas. They got beat by Ole Miss that year who we destroyed and they had a number of close games. Bias against the south lost that one.
But the biggest theft of alltime was our 1966 team, bear Bryants greatest ever. They won it in 64 and 65 althoug 64 is disputable but yet they started out 66 ranked 3rd behind Mich st and ND who played to a 10-10 tie. Bama shut out 8 opponents and statistically was vastly superior to both those teams but this was the turbulent 60s, there was a huge bias against the south, and so bama started out 3rd and finished 3rd while ND and Mich state stayed 1 and 2 despite playing to a tie. Several books were written about this team and this theft.
Bottom line. It all washes out. We only go by one of the 3 polls when claiming national titles, the ap, the old upi, and the one that became the espn/usa today poll.
By Denver dog
January 6, 2009 11:14 PM | Link to this
Bama 12 and Gator guy,
It appears that you two have a budding relationship, but I would say you should not expect to go onto a Ga blog and say the things that Bama 12 has been saying and expect not to get blasted. If anyone on this blog is not smart enough ( as much as I hate to say it) to realize that the Gators have been the tops in the SEC since Spurrier came and went. then they should go to remeidal class before writing. I for one am old enough to remember the dominance of Bama during the bear years. They were great back then, and everyone that I played high school football with dreamed of playing for him. UGA dominated the early part of the 80’s and then we have had a resurgence in the Richt years. We are happy about it. Bama had a great team, this year, and hopefully they will for years to come. The Gators, what can you say, they have been getting the job done for many years now.
SO if there are issues with going on the blog on the AJC and getting blasted expect it, most AJC people are Georgians. Don’t whine about it.
As far as the SEC, the east is the tops right now. We always have 2 or 3 teams contending. The west doesn’t have that right now, but they will.
So roll tide, chomp gators, but we always on this blog will say Go Dawg s, Sic em
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 11:25 PM | Link to this
Denver dog,
Everyone knows atlanta gator. He is usually the referee or voice of calmness on this blog.
I actually don’t go looking for trouble from dawg fans. Its just that for every bama fan like Bama stan busting on uga there are about 20 dawg fans constantly taking digs at Bama for usually no reason at all. If they are constantly taking uncalled for insults at Bama then they are going to get it right back from me.
I do disagree with your assessment that the east is tops right now. Tenn. is down and may stay down., Lsu will be right back, bama is back, and Auburn will be back also. Historically the lesser half of the west has been superior to the east. Arky is a program that has won ncs, used to be the 2nd best team in the old swc behind texas, and had been a consistent bowl team and 8 or 9 game winner under Nutt. They will be back and in the east there is no team that has been a consistent darkhorse threat like Arky has. Also, both of the Miss teams have had success in the past, more so than any of the 3 bottom teams in the east. Miss st was a constant bowler under Sherrill, beat UF several times, and could be good again in the future. Ole Miss beat UF this year and also had success under Cutcliffe, winning 10 games and going to several bowls. They will be really good next year. The bottom 3 in the west are without a doubt better over the last 20 years than the bottom 3 in the east. Also, the west has 3 ncs since the inception and a 4th unbeaten Auburn team that never got to play for it all. The east has 3.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 11:26 PM | Link to this
longtimedawg——Yeah, I’m aware of the all-time winning percentages and Florida’s lack of an SEC championship before 1991 (or 1984, if we count the one that was taken away 6 months after the fact, or 1990, when Spurrier’s first team finished a perfect 7-0 but was on probation from the Pell-Hall years). You cannot say, however, that Florida was “not competitive.” Florida had a number of solid years when they finished second in the SEC, but they were always a bridesmaid before the Evil Genius.
Sure, we can use the beginning of time method if you want, but I do note a couple of points … .
First, England ruled roughly half of France prior to the year 1300, but nobody really talks much about England’s magnificent 200-year run of victories over the French anymore. For better or worse, France is now run by the French. I mean isn’t there a statute of limitations on smack talk about ancient history from the 14th century? Well, how about from the 1910s, ’20s and ’30s when UGA went on a 16-3-1 tear to start the UF-UGA series? Do those numbers sound kind of eerily familiar?
Second, how can you mock Alabama fans for the Tide not having won an SEC title for 9 years and the Dawgs have 2, when the Tide owns every all-time record in the conference, and then turn around and tell Gator fans that being the dominant SEC team for the last two decades doesn’t count for much and it’s all about the all-time series record. Help me out here … isn’t that something like trying to have it both ways?
BTW, You know that the Florida-Georgia all-time win-loss record is tied at 36-36-1 since 1934, right? Besides, hiding behind that 46-38-2 all-time record vs. the Gators may only buy you Dawgs another 8 or 10 years of bragging rights in any event.
Yeah, my tongue IS firmly in cheek. I just felt left out with you Georgia and Alabama fans pounding on each other.
= )
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 11:31 PM | Link to this
longtimedawg——My favorite resource for college football historical stats is the College Football Data Warehouse. Check it out, you might like it. Here’s the link:
College Football Data Warehouse
GATAYHD
By Rich
January 6, 2009 11:33 PM | Link to this
Hey Ohio State fans, if Pryor is your future….YOU ARE IN TROUBLE!! Somebody needs to teach him how to throw a pass!!!
By bama12titles
January 6, 2009 11:40 PM | Link to this
Atlanta gator,
I’m making this my last post and calling it a night but I do have to call you out on one thing. You bring up the England _FRance thing and make a point that no one cares about history. Actually, the Palestinians and Israelis may differ with you. And Akmed in Irag is still p** off at Akbar over the family insult that was hurled at Akhmeds super great grandpappy 1400 years ago. Just keep in mind that Akhmed is still p** today.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 11:41 PM | Link to this
Denver Dog——That’s “Atlanta Gator,” not “Gator Guy.” No big deal, though. I knew you were talking to me.
As “for bama12titles,” he’s a big boy and can take care of himself on these blogs. I can toss fairly pointed blog insults, too; I just choose not to do so.
As my blog handle suggests, I, too, am proud to be a Georgian, just not a Dawg. The SEC is my tribe, and the Dawgs are my cousins, but the Gators are my chosen family.
By Jb Dawg
January 6, 2009 11:42 PM | Link to this
Well said about Coach Richt…I’ve been a dawg fan all of my life and graduated from there. People who bad mouth the coaching staff probably have two qualities….one they’ve never played football (or a competitive sport) bc if they had they would know that in competitive sports the best team doesn’t always win. That things go bump in the night. Stuff just happens And the second is they never went to school there, or they would remember the 90’s
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 11:58 PM | Link to this
longtimedawg——Thanks for the link to the Stassen.com website. I like the ability to search head-to-head records for any selected period of years. That’s neat stuff.
By Miles
January 7, 2009 12:30 AM | Link to this
Mr. Barnhart, I’ve come to the conclusion that the people who constantly reference money when it comes to the college coaching football ranks, do so because they’re projecting their own insular values on other people. Unfortunately, there are narrow-minded people amongst us who can’t see past the paycheck and thus they think everybody else is just like themselves. To them, everything is about money. I’d be foolish and naive to think that money is not a factor in a person’s decision to accept a job, but money as the sole factor for accepting a job is equally simple-minded. Adam Smith would certainly be displeased with my assessment, but I think we’re on the same page as is Rodney Garner and Stacy Searles.
By Pago Flyer
January 7, 2009 12:45 AM | Link to this
Her “royal highness oprah” will buy the NCAA and install all afro coaches. This should make everybody happy!