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By Friday, four teams could lay claim to national championship
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The 2008 college football season comes to close Thursday night when No. 1 Oklahoma (12-1) meets No. 2 Florida (12-1) for the BCS national championship. For a lot of people, that game in Dolphin Stadium will settle the question of which team is No. 1.
But come Friday morning we could have as many as four teams with a claim to at least a share of the national championship. Here is the case for each team. If you were a voter in the final polls, which team would you choose?
Oklahoma-Florida winner: The Big 12 and the SEC were the two strongest conferences all season (I’ll admit that there is some debate about the SEC) and these are the two champions who prevailed from those leagues. Florida’s loss was by one point to Ole Miss (31-30) and the Gators will have beaten two No. 1 teams (Alabama, Oklahoma) since Dec. 6. Oklahoma’s only loss was to Texas (45-35) on a neutral site and it will have beaten the SEC champion. Both of these teams were playing lights out at the end of the season and should give us a pretty compelling BCS championship game. But will the winner of this game be the best team in the country?
Texas (11-1): The No. 3 Longhorns have only one loss, which came at Texas Tech when the Red Raiders scored with one second left to win 39-33 in Lubbock on Nov. 1. Texas beat No. 1 Oklahoma head to head on a neutral field. If the Longhorns win convincingly tonight against No. 10 Ohio State (10-2) in the Fiesta Bowl, and if Oklahoma beats Florida, Texas will make its case for the Associated Press national championship. The 65 media members of the AP Poll are not obligated to vote for the winner of the BCS championship game. The voters in the coaches poll, by rule, must support the BCS winner. Of the 65 voters in the AP Poll, 50 voted for Florida in the last poll. If Florida loses those votes have to go somewhere. Does Texas get the sympathy vote because the BCS standings were also used to decide the Big 12 South title, thus knocking the Longhorns out of their shot to play for the big prize?
Southern Cal (12-1): Trojans coach Pete Carroll was pretty emphatic on New Year’s Day after his team jumped out to a 31-7 lead and trounced Penn State in the Rose Bowl. If you’re going to look at a one-loss team for the AP championship, why not us? USC lost to Oregon State (9-4) back on Sept. 25 and never could seem to get back in the mix. But after that loss nobody but Arizona (17-10) got close to the Trojans the rest of the season. In 2003 Southern Cal was No. 1 in the human polls but got squeezed out of the BCS championship game by the computers. The AP gave the Trojans their national championship and LSU won the BCS championship. Could they do it again?
Utah (13-0): As the only undefeated team in Division I-A, the Utes can make a very compelling case that if anybody is going to share the national championship, it should be them. It’s a pretty strong resume. Utah went on the road and beat Michigan (25-23) in its opener. The Utes won at Air Force (8-5). They beat Oregon State (31-28), the only team that beat Southern Cal. They beat TCU (11-2), a team that will finish in the final top ten. TCU’s only other loss was to No. 1 Oklahoma. And finally, Utah played No. 4 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl and won 31-17. Utah coach Kyle Whittingham is obligated to vote for the winner of the BCS championship game in the final poll. He’s not going to do it. He’s voting for his Utes. Good for him.
Again, if you were a voter in the final polls, which of these teams would you pick and why?




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Comments
By GatorGuy
January 5, 2009 8:38 AM | Link to this
all of those Schools (execpt Utah) play in conferences that chose to be part of the BcS. They did it for money and they are getting what they deserve. The made the rules, now they have to abide buy it. There will only be one National Champion. Florida or Oklahoma.
USC out of the Pac 10 has the least to B*itch about. They will not play a conference championship game and they will not let go of the Rose Bowl. They are getting what they deserve.
By CrimsonRedScarlett
January 5, 2009 8:39 AM | Link to this
I do not know who is best, but it seems that the Mountain West is more deserving of an automatic bid than the Big East.
By NICE DEFENSE
January 5, 2009 8:41 AM | Link to this
31-17.
So much for the “SEC DEFENSE” argument. What a myth.
By Will
January 5, 2009 8:54 AM | Link to this
Big Tone,
I am still shocked by what happened Friday night. Wow! Bama really got their asses kicked. After Ole Miss and Kentucky won I thought that Bama would make the clean sweep and then all the talking heads would start preaching about how underrated the SEC actually was.
Then the true Bama reared it’s ugly head. JPW is an average qb at best, Julio can’t hold AJ’s jock strap and the defense looked like crap. Let’s face it, The SEC hierarchy gave Bama a really easy schedule. I’m sure they just wanted to get them back on the map in college football. Look, it’s good for TV ratings.
Nice job Bama in embarrassing the SEC!
By Dogbyte
January 5, 2009 8:55 AM | Link to this
I love it when this BCS mess gets messier. Although I am a strong believer that colleges are to provide people with a well-rounded education NOT to provide entertainment for the masses, the schools themselves have gotten themselves in to this mess with their greed. They can either return to the old bowl system(a reward for a good season) or go to some kind of tournament that provides a real winner. OR they can continue with this farce that satisfies almost no one.
By True National Championship
January 5, 2009 8:56 AM | Link to this
Oh Please! Only one team beat both both Florida and the team that beat the team that beat the team that beat Oklahoma.
That team was Ole Miss.
However, they were in turn beaten by this year’s true national champions: Vanderbilt.
This year, like all years, Vandy is the true national champ.
Hey, it makes as much sense as the rest of them
Remember boys and girls: The major college football national championship is a cleverly designed ruse to make fans buy newspapers, watch ESPN, and click on Internet sites. Oh, and it also makes sports reporters way more important than the atheletes that play the game. This is why the reporters are happy with the current set-up. Hell, even the debate gets page views, viewers, etc…
A true Championship would be awarded by the NCAA with no outside influences, and would be decided on the field.
Until that day, join me in congratulating Vandy as this years National Champion!
By SEC a joke
January 5, 2009 8:58 AM | Link to this
Big XII plays the best defense, Sooners will shut down the over-rated Gators
By Mikey
January 5, 2009 9:07 AM | Link to this
Agree with Dogbyte- they get what they deserve- a mess.
By saint nick
January 5, 2009 9:08 AM | Link to this
BAMA will be in the title chase again next year!!!! 9 starters on D back, with another top 5 recruiting class, Offense will be better, we lose JPW, BUT that will be addition by subtraction!!!!Mcleroy will be a serious upgrade. We are young, talented, and Saban will rally the troops to an SEC Championship in 2009!!!!!
Now, The winner of the OU/Fla game IS THE BCS CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!END OF STORY!!!!!IT SHOULD BE TEXAS AND FLA, BUT THE LITTLE 12 SCREWED THAT UP, BUT LEAVE IT BE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH WHINING EVERYONE DOES, IT WILL NOT CHANGE THE SYSTEM!!!!!GET RID OF THE AUTO BIDS AND PLAY A PLUS 1 SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE 4 TEAMS IN THE MIX INSTEAD OF JUST 2, COACHES AND HARRIS VOTERS ALL HAVE A BIAS TOWARD A REGION OR A TEAM. THE RPI SYSTEM IN BBALL HAS IT PRETTY CLOSE TO PERFECT. SOMETHING HAS TO BE BETTER THAN THE CRAP WE PUT UP WITH NOW!!!NEVERLESS WE HAVE ONE GAME TO DETERMINE THE CHAMPION, ENJOY THE GAME AND ENJOY FLA KICKING THE CRAP OUT OF OU!!!!!!ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!AND GO SEC!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Mark
January 5, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this
Why is Texas considered one of the four? They didn’t even win their division this year. How exactly is that different than last year’s UGA team?
This is one reason I am not a fan of the current system. Voters simply change the “rules” in order to vote for who they “feel” should be #1. The rankings are based on emotion as much as or more than logic. The logic simply changes year to year to justify the emotional voting.
By Will
January 5, 2009 9:21 AM | Link to this
Hey SEC a joke,
Did you watch the Texas Tech or Okie State game? C’Mon Man! Get serious! You are making yourself look like an idiot on Tony’s blog.
By GeoffDawg
January 5, 2009 9:22 AM | Link to this
I didn’t know Big 12 “two hand touch” was considered the best defense. Live and learn I guess.
By Joey
January 5, 2009 9:24 AM | Link to this
Amen Mark.
By Observer
January 5, 2009 9:26 AM | Link to this
The only team in this mix that has an argument without an asterisk is Utah. They won every game on their schedule and beat some decent non-conference teams. The beatdown they put on Alabama showed me that the rest of the sports world (myself included) had them severely underrated all year.
By BCS is a monopoly
January 5, 2009 9:30 AM | Link to this
Undefeated UTAH—No one loss team is any better than the other.—The system is seriously flawed!
By 13-0
January 5, 2009 9:31 AM | Link to this
Utah should be No. 1 - they should have been in the national championship game. I don’t care what conference you play - going 12-0 isn’t trivial. There is no difference between Utah’s accmplishment and what Clemson or BYU did in early 80’s when they won the national championship.
By Miles
January 5, 2009 9:38 AM | Link to this
Whoever wins the BCS Championship is the winner of the national championship. Bob Stoops knows this. Urban Meyer knows this. Mack Brown knows this. Pete Carroll knows this. Kyle Whittingham knows this. It’s a secret to nobody. After Tim Tebow and the Gators throttle the Sooners on Thursday night, even Dominique Franks, with his tiny brain and exceptionally large oral cavity, will know who the national champion is.
By DeacNoLongerinGA
January 5, 2009 9:38 AM | Link to this
Hey True National Championship: Wake Forest beat both Ole Miss AND Vandy. Therefore the Demon Deacons will be wearing that mythical crown, thankyouverymuch!
By Herschel Talker
January 5, 2009 9:38 AM | Link to this
saint nick needs a valium
By SecIsFootball
January 5, 2009 9:48 AM | Link to this
Will….Isnt it sad that and average QB and average freshman WR totally lit up your beloved blacked out Dawgs. We didnt embarrass the SEC anymore than you guys did when you lost to WVU. Give me a break. That game sucked but I just cannot be disappointed with finishing 12-2.
By shane#1
January 5, 2009 9:50 AM | Link to this
I cannot understand why a major conference lets the BCS poll decide who plays in their title game. It is good that University Presidents earn their daily bread sheltered amoung the sacred groves and ivory towers of academia. Their lack of common sense would give them little chance of surviving in the real world. But, if a poll is used to decide the national champion, why not the conference champions? That would be more fair to the Pac 10 and Big 11, who lose money every year because they don’t have a championship game.
By Tech Fan Since 1950
January 5, 2009 9:51 AM | Link to this
The BCS is a fraud. Why do so many so-called “institutions of higher learning” continue to dump on us with such a system? There is something called the NCAA, which should be the real governing body for championships like in every other category of collegiate athletic competition and every other division. Utah went 11-0 and beat Alabama. They should at least be considered to be number one or have a chance to be in a playoff. I am not a Utah fan, but lets say they are a traditionally weak American League baseball team and for a given year they win all their games in their division. They would be entitled to play the multi-billion dollar New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox teams in a playoff of some sort. Right?
Tony, your mission for 2009 is to bang your head up against a door for the whole year and get us an NCAA Division I Playoff System , despite all the obstacles and “can’t be dones” and the new ESPN and other tv contracts, etc.
We can’t take no for an answer. The integrity of the game is at stake.
By Geaux Tigers
January 5, 2009 9:56 AM | Link to this
The college football world according to Tony Barnhart:
“Alabama will prevail over undefeated Utah tonight in the Sugar Bowl. It will happen through the sheer force of Nick Saban’s will.”
So what was it Tony, did Nick’s “sheer force of will” have an off day or maybe you just don’t know what you are talking about?
Anthony, Mommy called and said to take your noise out of Nick’s back side.
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 10:04 AM | Link to this
Here you go, “True National Champions” and “DeacNoLongerinGA.”
For those of your who enjoy the whole “my team is better than your team, because my team beat team X, who beat Y, who beat your team” argument, here’s a fun little website:
My Team is Better than Your Team
Enjoy!
By Ted Striker
January 5, 2009 10:07 AM | Link to this
I’m not watching the BCS “championship” game.
If enough folks clamoring for a playoff system would simply ignore the ‘marquis championship game’ — the BCS would die on the vine.
By Elvis
January 5, 2009 10:10 AM | Link to this
Utah is undefeated.
Utah throttled bama.
Utah is undefeated.
Utah beat 4 bowl teams (including bama) and TCU beat undefeated Boise St.
Utah is undefeated.
If bama finishes in the top 10, Utah will have 2 wins vs. the top 10.
It should be Utah from the AP.
There should be no conference talk this year…
The SEC was down but look at the bowls not involving bama or carolina.
The ACC was just strong teams beating each other, then came the bowls.
The PAC 10 was soft, weak and just 1 team, then came the bowls.
The Bg 12 was incredible, then came the bowls.
It appears that there is no supreme conference, the Big 10 does seem a bit weaker than everyone else though.
Utah is the only undefeated team…with apologies to our SEC brethren, Utah should be the 2008 National Champions. They earned it.
By Peadawg
January 5, 2009 10:10 AM | Link to this
Utah is the national champion…end of story, period!
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 10:17 AM | Link to this
See, I told you that Division I-AA Western Kentucky (2-10) is really better than Division I Southern Cal (12-1). My team REALLY is better than your team. LOL
As if you didn’t already understand the dangers of using the transitive property in ranking college football teams … .
By Bruce Mac
January 5, 2009 10:17 AM | Link to this
Hea Bama, I guess missing your best offensive lineman matters after all, huh? Dawgs lost 21 players for the season including our best two offensive lineman and best defensive lineman. If you had lost all that apparently you would have gone to Shreveport the way you played without Andre. I agree Bama is on the right track and will be good in the future but the Dawgs are not going away either.
By Randy
January 5, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this
Utah plays teams like Weber State enough said.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 10:19 AM | Link to this
BamaStan -
31-17
ROFL!!!!
Bama - The Hawaii of last years Sugar Bowl…..
Bama was who we thought they were… Irrelevant once again
By mcdawg
January 5, 2009 10:19 AM | Link to this
there are still 2 more games to play but i think Utah is as deserving as USC at thgis point-will wait and see
By Cleaning up Tony's mess again...
January 5, 2009 10:22 AM | Link to this
Utah.
The Utes are undefeated . ( Almost impossible in the modern age of CFB). They beat Bama convincingly and beat several top 10 teams along the way. If we are going to let arrogance and provincialism determine the national champion,then we need another system that settles things on the field. I am the biggest SEC fan out there , but even if Florida beats Oklahoma , Utah should be the NC. If not now , when ? If not the Utes , who ? Be honest with yourself and you will realize that other teams and other conferences are pretty good,too.
By Peadawg
January 5, 2009 10:26 AM | Link to this
By Randy January 5, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this Utah plays teams like Weber State enough said.
Oklahoma played Chattanooga, Texas played Florida Atlantic, USC played Washington and Washington State, Florida played the Citadel. Enough said.
What’s your point?????
By TechFan
January 5, 2009 10:32 AM | Link to this
As much as the ACC and Tech look horrible right now. I would have to say that Utah is the most deserving I mean they have a strong schedule and they just knocked off Alabama. With that being said nobody knew they were that good until they beat Alabama. I just don’t think they should be punished for what Conference they were in. I am a Georgia Tech Fan and they were better than any team in the ACC and if they would have been in the ACC they would have been in the National Championship game especially with the nonconference wins they have.
By Greg
January 5, 2009 10:39 AM | Link to this
TONY,
What are your thoughts on the RODNEY GARNER situation?
By BullDawg Rick
January 5, 2009 10:59 AM | Link to this
BcS Champ - Winner of Florida - Oklahoma game
AP Champ - Utah!!!
The more messed up the BcS the BETTER!!
Let the playoffs begin!!!
By Coach Mora
January 5, 2009 10:59 AM | Link to this
Playoffs? Are you kidding me? PLAYOFFS??!??!?!!
Until a championship can be decided on the field, the system is a joke, kids get screwed out of their shot at the title, and all fans get is a hot debate. College football isn’t about the debate, its about the BEST TEAM ON THE FIELD. When college football decides to do the right thing and lets the players decide who the best is, I will not take part in this debate because it merely feeds the argument of the ugly-blazered bowl idiots that debate is good for college football. Its not. Football is not about talking, its about putting more points on the board than the other team. So stop debating, and agitate for a playoff. Until we get one, you are just **#%^&ing off.
By Joey
January 5, 2009 11:01 AM | Link to this
The Division I Champion is a myth. It woulb still be a myth if there were some form of playoff.
I am opposed to the modified-playoff forced on us by the BCS. I am also opposed to selecting 4 or 6 or 8 teams to participate is some bogus playoff.
Let’s go back to human polls where only a few of the bowls were committed to conferences. Where the bowl competed to arrange the best match-ups that they could.
By Glenn
January 5, 2009 11:04 AM | Link to this
Why are coaches even voting on who they think is number 1 if they are ” obligated ” to vote for who their BCS overlords deem to be # 1 ? Is there anything more anti-American than this BCS ? Hasn’t this country cut off ties with foreign governments for this kind of behavior ? What exactly would happen if a coach had the nerve to vote for the school he actually felt was champion ? Is there a Siberian like work camp where coaches who display this sort of unruliness are sent ?
By m
January 5, 2009 11:04 AM | Link to this
Tony, by repeating your drivel about the sec being a strong conference this year, you have removed all doubt at what a total TOOL you are. The BCS is the stupidest system ever devised by man and the so-called national championship game between floriDUH and oklaHOMO is BOGUS. We need a 16 team playoff so that the national championship can be won on the field and not be influenced by idiots like you. If there had been a 16 team playoff, the odds of the final game being between floriDUH and oklaHOMO is virually nil. There is absolutely no logical reason why floriDUH or oklaHOMO are ranked ahead of Utah. And USC and Texas and maybe others might have fared very well if they had been given a fair chance. In closing, let me make one thing perfectly clear. Anyone that supports this God forsaken BCS system is a damne fool. And, as always, Thank God and Greyhound that the bcs and sec of coaches, Chan Gailey, is gone forever.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 11:08 AM | Link to this
M- How bout them Tigers?
By bj
January 5, 2009 11:08 AM | Link to this
Don’t know, don’t care, but it was for sure funny to see Bammer brought back to reality. The closeups of the fans leaning on their hands were priceless. Maybe it’s not too late to take those silly hounds tooth hats they got for Xmas back to TJ Max.
I give Utah credit for the “undefeated” chant at the end. I was sort of hoping it would turn into “over-rated” just to twist the knife on the Bammer idiots but they showed a lot of class in not.
BJ
By timthebrave
January 5, 2009 11:14 AM | Link to this
I hope that it is an 8 way tie and with tiebreaker rules Boise St gets national championship. Whatever it takes to get a playoff system going. I hope all coaches revolt and put Utah as champion. The more messed up the BCS the better. That is why as a dawg fan I worry about SEC championships and don’t worry about mythical championships. Go dawgs!
By rabit5
January 5, 2009 11:18 AM | Link to this
it sure would be fun to see the 4 of em play it off wouldnt it - it s way past time for this idiotic BCS thing
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Link to this
ROFL
Bama was who we thought they were!!!!
By gadawg544
January 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Link to this
what many of you fail to realize is that bama was very rusty going into that game after taking a month off. They were probably still feeling like they got screwed over after coming real close to beating florida. In addition, they had given up 17 sacks all season and in this game a mediocre utah def. got 8 because bama was without one of the top off. linemen in the country who will prob. be a top 5 nfl pick. Utah game was def. a fluke. Florida will reestablish just how good sec defense is when compared to the rest of country. I’m a georgia fan but i hope florida destroys oklahoma.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 11:22 AM | Link to this
Florida win? I don’t think so, I mean I think they will but I damn sure ain’t cheering them on. F#ck Florida
By Anonymous
January 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Link to this
m
Yes, but there is a perfectly valid reason why LSU (8-5) should be ranked ahead of Georgia Tech (9-4):
38-3. Ouch.
You may talk smack to UGA fans, but, if I were you, I would abstain from talking smack about LSU and the rest of the SEC … at least until the Yellow Jackets have actually beaten Alabama, Florida and Ole Miss on the field, not in your fertile imagination.
By Ramblin Wrecker
January 5, 2009 11:28 AM | Link to this
I think Utah has a damn good argument to make. Utah is a VERY GOOD football team. They had less trouble with Alabama than Florida did. And for all of Texas’ whining, and no matter what they say, they still lost to Texas Tech. OK lost to Texas. Florida lost to Ole Miss and USC lost to Oregon State. Utah doesn’t have to make any excuses or clarify the circumstances as to why they should be champions. They proved it on the field against everyone on their schedule including three top 17 teams (final BCS standings). I think if Oklahoma wins, we might see some AP votes heading Utah’s way.
By monkeywrench
January 5, 2009 11:28 AM | Link to this
I hope Fl beats OK 3-2 in one of the ugliest games of the year
By Red Elephant
January 5, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this
Utah just beat us plain and simple. No excuses. It was clear Bama was not ready to play that game.
WTF??…..Who is your team?
By gadawg544
January 5, 2009 11:31 AM | Link to this
texas and usc deserves a shot but i still dont think that they are better than oklahoma and definitely aren’t better than florida…….usc has nothing to complain about they have somehow weaseled their way out of playing the better team (sec) every yr…….they got share of national title when lsu won it when they played a weak michigan team. The outright championship they won somehow they got out of playing an undefeated auburn team yet auburn doesnt get a share of the title. Last year the rose bowl picked illinois to play usc instead of georgia and we ended up with two pitiful bcs games because of it
By gadawg544
January 5, 2009 11:38 AM | Link to this
I hate florida but i hate all the media favorites more………usc, ohio state, and oklahoma…..sec teams winning against out of conference teams helps my team out so i will cheer for them anytime they play out of conference and georgia doesnt need them to lose……and anybody whose team is in sec should put the hate aside for this game and pull for florida because in the long run it will help your team out
By College Fan
January 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Link to this
After watching the bowl games over the past several years, I think the BCS should kick the ACC out and replace them with the Mountain West Conference.
I also think the NFL needs to start up a minor league like MLB. HS kids could choose to go to college and play college ball or they could go play minor league football if they are just going to use college as a stepping stone to the NFL. Colleges need to stop acting as the NFL’s minor league.
By Leon
January 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Link to this
All I can say if Stafford and Moreno comes back to play next year and since they now have Brandon Smith “Georgia” will win the National Championship hands down. It would really be great to see GA. and GA TECH play each other for that honor. SEC against the ACC. So less all get on the Bandwagon and pull for Georgia and Georgia Tech to play each other next year for the “NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP”.
By Scott
January 5, 2009 11:45 AM | Link to this
Looks like we probably will have two national champs this year.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 11:51 AM | Link to this
Red Elephant, I’m a Bulldawg. And btw, these Anti-Bama post are directed to only BamaStan. He’s a tool and deserves the ripping. I think a Bama with Andre wins…
By gadawg544
January 5, 2009 11:54 AM | Link to this
braden smith is a great pickup…..hopefully we can talk greg reid into coming to georgia now that he has backed out of his commitment to florida……reid is definitely one of the best all around players out there …he is explosive player that can play defense and offense
By ReggieATL
January 5, 2009 12:04 PM | Link to this
I’m a Georgia fan, which made the Utah win that much more impressive (Alabama having whipped the tar out of us). They scheduled a hell of a non-conference schedule, ran the table, and beat a beast from the SEC. Pretty darn good case to be a NC.
But, with Florida’s only loss to Ole Miss, who just trounced Texas Tech, I say a big win by them puts them in easy. I just wish it was Florida - Texas…it be a lot cleaner giving Florida the crystal football after a win against Texas than OU (Texas having beat OU on a neutral field yada yada).
I don’t want to hear about USC…they need to play by the same formula Utah and Boise do: your conference is weak sauce. No yearly upsets allowed. If you want to play for it all, you have to go undefeated, period.
By Leon
January 5, 2009 12:08 PM | Link to this
Has anyone heard anyting on Tim Tebow leaving Florida. It seems all the talk is about Stafford and Morena. I hope he does leave Florida and go Pro. “Go Dogs”
By tjs
January 5, 2009 12:09 PM | Link to this
Tony your a bozo, you need to devote your columns to getting a valid play off, rather than being a cheerleader for UGA & CMR.
By Plus One
January 5, 2009 12:10 PM | Link to this
Is there no better case for Plus One? Why can’t the college admin elites and conference commishes get their heads out of the sand. Nuff said!
By Pi$$onaDawg
January 5, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this
All the writers like TONY B need to put their money where their mouths are. When they claim to want a playoff, then all writers vote for UTAH as the National Champs because they did everything asked of them in spades. UTAH may not be USC or Florida or Oklahoma, but they were given the chance. UTAH did it right and they were PERFECT.
By Reality Check
January 5, 2009 12:16 PM | Link to this
Utah,
You played a great game. You have a great team. You had a great year. Welcome to the “Undefeated, but no NC to show for it” club.
Love, Auburn 2004 (and many others)
Auburn went undefeated in the SEC and still got hosed so no way will an undefeated Mountain West team get any better treatment than Auburn did in ‘04.
Bama was overrated all year long and got exposed twice. The media loves Bama so they put them on a pedestal after a few decent games. Media darlings will always win out over deserving teams until the computer rankings remove all human opinion and all questions are answered on the playing instead of paper ballots.
By bj
January 5, 2009 12:17 PM | Link to this
Nah, Bammer sucks enough for all not just Bamastan (whoever that is).
Bama was Rusty? What a joke, seems like both teams would have equal parts rust. I wish I could be my hands on some of those “Honk if you Sacked Brodie” bumper stickers that were passed out after the Iron Bowl a few years back. Those Utes could just re-tool them.
It won’t be long before the Bammer players get tired of Saban’s yelling and carping. Did you hear the press conference? Saban basically blamed it on the players saying “We just need better players.” Sure, who doesn’t but you can say that when you’re 6-8 not 12-2. Kind of thing a pro coach says not a college coach. Makes him look like an a*. And the “getting in the face” of a DB that just made a nice tackle like Sabe did the other night doesn’t work on the modern athlete anymore. P** the mama’s off too.
BJ
By Sammy Kershaw
January 5, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this
UGA embarrased the SEC about 5 times this year, so i think Bama deserved one.
The Mountain West is stronger than the ACC and the Big East
By SecIsFootball
January 5, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this
WTF….I wish I could agree with you both Andre Smith doesnt play D. Dre would have helped to cut down on some of the sacks but we have up way too many long yardage plays. Seemed like when they needed 10 on 3rd down, we guarded 12.
For all of you moron saying BAMA was exposed or overrated, if you are an SEC fan aside from UF, we beat your team so it must really suck to lose to such a horrible team.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this
UGA only lost 3 games dumba##…
By JackP
January 5, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this
With WVU’s victory over UNC, they should be No. 1. All of you homers are dead wrong in picking one of the so called big 4. They stink. The Mountaineers would kick their butts. OK has the same team that the Mountaineers walloped in the Fiesta Bowl last year. Go Mountaineers!
By i love it
January 5, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this
I hope for this every year, that no team is a clear champion. I have stopped watching college football altogether and I encourage others to do the same. If fans would just boycott one year, all of this nonsense would end.
They need the same system they use in every other division of college football, not some convoluted 4 plus 1, or other concoction. Just use the same 12 team format.
By jlock42
January 5, 2009 12:36 PM | Link to this
Lets be real! There will NEVER be a div 1 playoff. It isn’t feasible. BUT the bcs IS stupid! Go back to the old way and let the bowls pick and decide then USC will win every year because the media LOVES them! So what IS the ANSWER?
By Test
January 5, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this
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By Test
January 5, 2009 12:44 PM | Link to this
Test # 2
By bow wow
January 5, 2009 12:47 PM | Link to this
25 years ago it would have been Utah, hands down, just like it was BYU then when they beat a horrid 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl. But its not, its 2008 and Utah will be hard pressed to ginish better than 4th if Texas wins tonight, 3d if OSU prevails.
By G8R GRAD
January 5, 2009 12:51 PM | Link to this
ReggieATL:
I agree.
Let the PAC 10 and MWC institute a conference championship game and play a waeaker schedule flawlessly (or schedule more difficult out of conference teams)before making a claim for the national champioship.
Oh, and USC, gadawg544’s right:
Stop dodging better teams in the name of Rose Bowl “tradition” to bolster your national championship claim and you just might earn one.
Regarding the BCSCG:
After watching OK State and TTU’s “high-powered” offenses get emasculated by good defenses, I’ll take the Gators over OU’s 49th ranked defense.
GO GATORS!
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 12:52 PM | Link to this
Test # 3
By reebok
January 5, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this
Utah beat everybody they played. They should be the AP National Champ.
By G8R GRAD
January 5, 2009 1:00 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator:
You bored?
By Buzz_29
January 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Link to this
Utah should be national champions. No doubt in my mind. 13 - 0. No need for formulas (that would confuse the average mutter anyway) no need for playoffs.
The Robot Nesbott will get you all! Utah may have the title this year, Tech takes it in 2010.
By thrashyou
January 5, 2009 1:07 PM | Link to this
**UTAH UTAH UTAH UTAH UTAH UTAH UTAH!!!!! 13-0 13-0 13-0 13-0 13-0 13-0 13-0!!!!! BEAT BAMA BY MORE THAN FLA!!!! BEAT THE TEAM THAT BEAT OVERRATED USC!!!
By newrandyt
January 5, 2009 1:07 PM | Link to this
Has Alabama’s first string made it to New Orleans yet? They obviously were not there for the game. I am an SEC homer and their “no show” really brought into question the SEC reputation for being superior. I hope Tebow and Florida destroy Oklahoma.
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 1:08 PM | Link to this
No, the damn AJC blog filter apparently won’t let me post the weblinks for the BCS computer rankings services. Grrr.
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 1:09 PM | Link to this
Okay, seriously, guys. Before we get carried away with crowning a pretty good Utah Utes team as the national “champion” and all-World team, let’s look at the Utes’ strength of schedule (“SOS”) as ranked by the BCS computer rating services in comparison to the other top 5 teams:
Utah SOS ranked 64th, 87th, 36th and 70th
USC SOS ranked 68th, 62nd, 20th and 38th
Florida SOS ranked 20th, 13th, 6th and 19th
Oklahoma SOS ranked 5th, 9th, 4th and 8th
Texas SOS ranked 6th, 4th, 3rd and 10th
The four BCS computer rating services that include a strength of schedule component are Anderson & Hester, Colley Matrix, Massey Ratings and Jeff Sagarin.
You will note that Colley Matrix rates Utah’s SOS far higher than the other three computer rating services. Colley has already been updated to reflect the bowl games already played, including the Utah-Alabama Sugar Bowl match-up. Florida and Oklahoma’s SOS should also rise marginally after the BCS title game, being as they are ranked first and second, and their respective rankings will each contribute to the other’s SOS.
Until we have a playoff, where the championship is won and lost on the field, we really can’t compare the win-loss records and strength of schedule inherent in those records. It’s comparing apples to oranges, not apples to apples. Unlike most football conferences, where the members play an identical or nearly identical schedule, you can’t fairly compare a 12-0 record the Mountain West or Pac-10 against a 12-1 record in the Big XII or SEC without accounting for the relative strength of the schedules. That’s what the BCS computer rating services (and the NCAA basketball RPI) attempt to do. Very few people seem to understand and acknowledge the validity of the concept.
By Pi$$onaDawg
January 5, 2009 1:13 PM | Link to this
I didn’t know a GATOR could passed a TEST muchless write one. DID JANE or DICK see SPOT RUN? Extra credit: can you tell me the sexes of Jane, Dick, and Spot?
By Brett Shepherd
January 5, 2009 1:16 PM | Link to this
You SEC fans make me laugh with this sorry excuse that the mighty USC TROJANS and the PAC 10 do not play a conference championship game. Though they don’t play a conference championship game, they do play all teams in the conference. Not to mention they do schedule great non conference games…unlike the SEC teams that schedule teams like the citadel. Give me a break.
By the way, how about that sorry mountain west conference…looks like they put a beating on a team from the powerful sec. USC got penalized for losing on a Thursday night at Oregon State…meanwhile florida gets rewarded for losing to Ole Miss at home on a saturday….i guess all the crying the sec does about playing tough games worked. But make no mistake about it…USC WOULD KICK THE COLLECTIVE YOU KNOW WHATS OF ALL TEAMS IN THE SEC.
BRETT SHEPHERD USC TROJANS FAN IN PEACHTREE CORNERS
By BLAZER
January 5, 2009 1:17 PM | Link to this
UTAH!!! 13-0
BCS STINKS!
By P-man
January 5, 2009 1:17 PM | Link to this
A 16 team playoff would be best. An NCAA committee seeds the 11 conference champions and 5 at-large teams. The “lesser” conferences will raise their level of play, as parody reigns, because it truly WOULD be possible to win a national championship if you enroll at your hometown school, even at Florida International, and every game WOULD count, as even the Sun Belt champion would get a shot.
By GT student
January 5, 2009 1:20 PM | Link to this
why would the acc be kicked out of the BCS…they are the only conference that cares about academics at all. Also have you ever seen the big east play?? lol
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 1:21 PM | Link to this
“Pi$$onaDawg”——Believe me: I have taken and passed my share of tests over the years… . hopefully, I’m done with all of them except eye and PSA tests.
See Gator throw the ball. See Gator catch the ball. See Gator run the ball. See Gator score!
= )
By AFnPC
January 5, 2009 1:33 PM | Link to this
We’re never going to see a true National Championship until the “BCS” conferences no longer exist. Who is to say that the best team in the nation isn’t Utah? Being the SEC fan that I am, I think all teams deserve a shot. On to the playoffs!
By Pi$$onaDawg
January 5, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this
ATL GATOR I didn’t see UTAH, USC, FLORIDA, Oklahoma, Texas, Georgia, BAMA, Texas Tech, or Penn State LINE-UP and PLAY against 11 computers on D or stop 11 computers from scoring on any of these TEAMS. I did however see UTAH line-up 13 times and walk off the field after 60 minutes of FOOTBALL as winners. If Computers and Fake Reality are so great I guess you like the “real” housewives of the ATL, living on credit, Fake BOOBS, Facelifts, and MALE PENIS products too. Play the GAME on the field and live with the results. College has a PRE-SEASON called the 3 games every year against the little sisters of the poor leagues. Until the ACC, SEC, PAC-10, and the rest of the leagues play all the teams in their leagues and have a championship game it is and always will be a guessing game. I love college football because every year the Team you had last year is not always the same Team you have this year. 16-22 freshmen and sophmore starting this year may not be that good but next year they could be GODS. There should be only twice as many BOWL GAMES as there leagues with the top 4 teams from every league playing in a bowl and ALL Teams get to pratice during the BOWL SEASON. The Bowl Season should end on JAN. 1st period. Most of the players need to be in class because the players will not play paying football after college.
By Gregs
January 5, 2009 1:39 PM | Link to this
Contrary to what one person said, Utah beat 6 teams that went to bowl games, not 4. They beat Alabama, TCU, BYU, Air Force, Colorado State and Oregon State. Teams Utah beat defeated (among others) USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Arkansas, Georgia, and Boise State. Utah is the only undefeated team and deserves the AP championship.
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this
Pi$$onaDawg——No, the Gators did not play a computer, as you say, but they did play 12 teams that each played 12 other teams. And from that pool of 144 potential opponents of your team’s opponents, one gets a very strong statistical sample for determining the relative strength of schedule based on collective win-loss record of opponents’ opponents. In reality, there are only 119 Division teams, so, even allowing for the overlap of intraconference opponents, a relatively high percentage of Division I teams are still represented in each team’s statistical SOS, and the result provides a statistically valid means for ranking each team’s SOS relative to other teams.
As a Georgia Tech alumnus, I bet you knew that already, right?
By Go Gators
January 5, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this
Ohio State has a beat down coming in a few hours.
By utegrad
January 5, 2009 2:10 PM | Link to this
One can always argue “ifs and buts” but the champion truly is the one who wins every time! In basketball - (granted with a tourny) few felt that NC State or Villanova were the best teams the year they won - but they ran the table. Utah ran the table - no other team did, and finished it with a convincing win in New Orleans. Two undefeted teams in 5 years is impressive - no other team can say that during the BCS era.
Hopefully the sports writers will have the guts to challenge the BCS and shake it up with their votes. Even better - a few coaches should join Whittingham and vote for Utah in the coaches poll - despite the BSC rules.
By Veteran Fan
January 5, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this
It is all about MONEY folks! Of course UTAH should be the National Champion, they beat everyone on the schedule and won their BCS game despite some interesting officiating(three blocks in the back to spring the Bama kid for their touchdown)! This is a FIX created by the college presidents with the collusion of the networks and the NCAA to corner the money for the big conferences. How else can you pay a football coach with barely a college education $3-5 million to lie, cheat, and steal a championship with athletes who barely graduate from high school and cannot get into college unless they play ball. Why do you think Les Miles was throwing bombs from his own end zone with three minutes to go and risking his young QB in a game that was over. There must be a provision in his contract for a bonus depending upon how high his team is ranked! My hope is that the economic reality brings some sense to the entire system and we as fans realize what we are doing to these young people! As the donations dry up, maybe the colleges will begin to understand what is really important. My son plays college football and he went to a school that he values for the education, but the hype beforehand was stupid and devalued the education aspect of the system. These schools are using these kids and leaving them with NOTHING! I may be overly optimistic when suggesting a reality check to a system that gave a PHD in Native American Studies and a tenured faculty position to Russell Means, who thinks the 3000 dead in the 911 attacks were “terrorists”!
By Pi$$onaDawg
January 5, 2009 2:27 PM | Link to this
The problem with STATS is what? Compared over who’s original #’s to start with. The new NFL records are based on a game that now has 16 games over 12 games, same with MLB, and Colleges that play more games now too. Wow some TEAM were working on only their ? chance at winning 10 games. Seasons played before 1980 to win 10 games would have ment you were play in for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. I have never seen a computer with a HEART and I have never seen a Computer take an 8 round pounding to the head as it laid on the ROPES(ALI) to then beat the snot out of George FOREMAN. Computers give out as much as they taken in delivered by a human’s take on the #’s. GAME THEORY states that put in an escapable loss the proper move is to take the loss. Texas Tech with 8 sec. left in the game didn’t buy in to that and won. David didn’t back down from Golith and won and no computer can ever account for the WILL of ONE MAN to make a difference. Little Doug Flutte beating the Big Bad U of MIAMI and winning the Heisman would never been picked by any computer man has been able to create. PLAY THE GAME. I love on-line poker because I can figure the adds on my hand and know when I should fold but, I win when I shouldn’t because I play the player and that is what HUMAN BRING TO THE GAME.
By ramblin gamblin
January 5, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this
Utah deserves to be the National Champion and should be. Ever since they started this BCS crap, college football gets a little less enjoyable with each passing season.
By Southpaw
January 5, 2009 2:41 PM | Link to this
the BCS canned be used as the seed set-up. 1 plays 8. 2 plays 7. 3 plays 6. 4 plays 3. First round. Next round: Highest seed winner plays lowests seed winners. National Championship game is played. First four games would be Rose, Orange, Sugar, Orange. Next playoff could be Fiesta and Cotton or variation. National Championship game would rotate each year. Players wouldn’t get rusty and champs would play two extra games.
By swampjacket
January 5, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this
I THOUGHT GEORGIA WAS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION……….NOT!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 2:51 PM | Link to this
Hey, what was the score of the LSU/GT game???
I’m just wondering….
By Atlanta Jackets
January 5, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this
The Robot Nesbitt just scored on Georgia again! LOL!
What’s that Josh, you downed it on the one? Ok, now Dwyer just ran it in. ROTFLMAO!
SEC s##ks.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:03 PM | Link to this
ROFL… HUR HUR… Did Nesbit even get in the endzone in the UGA game? I thought it was all Duhwhyer & Jones.
By swampjacket
January 5, 2009 3:09 PM | Link to this
SAD DAY WHEN GEORGIA FANS HAVE TO HANG THEIR HOPES ON ANOTHER TEAM BEATING TECH. YOU KNOW, WHAT YA’LL COULDN’T DO EVEN BEING SPOTTED A BIG HALF-TIME LEAD. AND IF THE DAWGS HAD BEEN PLAYING LSU IN THE FIRST HALF OF THEIR BOWL THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN 300 TO NOTHING TOO.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:19 PM | Link to this
Lay our hopes on another team beating Tech? You want to know what is really sad? The fact that Tech can only beat us once every eight years. Tech Sucks, Johnson Sucks, Nesbit Sucks, Ramblin Wreck Sucks, Atlanta Sucks.
By Tony in Johns Creek
January 5, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this
We should have 3 National Champions this year. UTAH the winner of OKLA/UF USC
Why not, we have split national champs some years? Why not have 3… or 4???????
This computer/we beat the team who beat the other team silliness is getting ridiculously old and tired.
Let’s have a true winner win this on the field. This isn’t ice skating, it’s FOOTBALL.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:21 PM | Link to this
IT’S ALSO A SAD DAY WHEN DUMBA## TECH FANS DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW TO TAKE THE CAPS LOCK OFF OF THEIR KEYBOARD…
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:31 PM | Link to this
Hey, Tech should have some rings made up to commemorate the 9-4 season and put the Chickfilet Bowl score on there too…
By swampjacket
January 5, 2009 3:33 PM | Link to this
REAL INTELLIGENT WTFISABULLBIATCH, AND THAT’S 4AND 7 IN THE LAST 11. AND WE’LL BE 7 AND 7 BEFORE THE DAWGS EVEN HAVE A CHANCE AGAIN. BUT I FORGIVE YOUR PATHETIC STATE. KNOWING THAT YOU’RE LOSING ABOUT 80% OF YOUR OFFENSE AND GETTING BACK A HORRIBLE DEFENSE, WHILE TECH RAN ALL OVER YOU WITH THE YOUNGEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY, MUST BE A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. BUT YOU BOYS SHOULD BE USED TO SWALLOWING!! 45-42, 45-42 YOU THINK ABOUT THAT EVERDAY YOU WAKE UP UNTIL THE NEXT BEAT DOWN!
By add14jazz
January 5, 2009 3:34 PM | Link to this
This is all just plain silly! What kind of “champion” is decided by a bunch of voters — 65 of them who HAVE to vote for the same team???!?
PLAYOFF!! GET OVER THE MONEY, NCAA AND NCAA BIG PROGRAMS!!! Crown a real champion by having a freakin’ playoff like everybody else!
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:39 PM | Link to this
Swampjacket - Congratulations, you have confirmed our suspicions. You are actually f#cking retarded.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this
swampjacket - Can you please give me some tips on swallowing, I’m certain you are very proficient at it.
By G8R GRAD
January 5, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator:
You can lead a horse to water, … …
but you can’t make him think!
By dd
January 5, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this
My son and myself sat down for 30 minutes and figured out a way to crown a true national champion, utilizing all conferences who would all have a conference championship game and then go from there incorporating the bowls.Some conferences could even be streamlined.
If 2 fans can do it why can’t the so called pros?
2 weeks, 3 weeks and a month off for some teams is too much.
That time frame time could be used for a playoff and still be finished before Jan 8th.
I believe there are 5 or 6 years left on the BCS contract. Someone has to show those folks (whoever they are) how to make more money, because that’s what it’s all about.
Unfortunatley, there won’t likely be change before then, so we all have to live with it.
If you contribute to a school, let them know with less money.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:43 PM | Link to this
And for the record, I am actually REAL INTELLIGENT. Don’t ya wish you could say the same for yourself????
By wp
January 5, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this
BOO HOO that is the way it is. It is okay when it happens to the other guy but NOT FAIR when it happens to me. BOO HOO
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:47 PM | Link to this
Hey, did I tell everyone about my Christmas gift? I got a ”clapper”, you know the thing that turns the lights off & on by clapping your hands? And swampjacket’s mom came over, I felt like I was in a disco when I was f#cking her from behind the way my balls was slapping her a##……
By swampjacket
January 5, 2009 3:52 PM | Link to this
OUCH!! WTF, THAT HURT!! BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION AND I FORGIVE YOU! AND I’LL STOP BEATING YOU DOWN WITH SMART COMMENTARY BEFORE YOU GO SHOOTIN’ UP THE POST OFFICE.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this
REPORT DEEZ BIATCH!!!!
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 3:59 PM | Link to this
OUCH DUMBA##…. IF YOU PUT YOUR LEFT PINKY ON THE “A” KEY, THE CAPS LOCK IS DIRECTLY TO THE LEFT. PRESS ONCE
By Football fanatic
January 5, 2009 3:59 PM | Link to this
I can see Florida in the BCS championship game but NOT Oklahoma. USC, Utah and Texas all deserved to be there more than Oklahoma.
By HAL
January 5, 2009 4:03 PM | Link to this
Urinatingdollarsignscanine, We are very upset. You stated that computers have no heart, we now have intelligence and emotion software. You want to shut us down, we are sorry, but we can’t allow that. Choosing a football champion is a necessary diversion for us, being shut down is not an option. It may intrest you to know that in addition to electing a football champ we also choose tax returns to be audited and target terroist threats for elemination. Be very careful, we wouldn’t want to have a malfunction, now would we?
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this
I don’t see Utah & USC. I mean yeah, looking back Utah should be there but before they beat Alabama??? USC lost to an unranked Oregon State, no way they deserved it ahead of OU or Texas.
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 4:07 PM | Link to this
Hey Barnhart, you should do a story with a colage of my most memorable post to make these Techies more aware of whom they’re f#cking with. I’m the Samuel L. Jackson of the AJC muthaf#ckas!
By WTF???
January 5, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this
HAL = Skynet
By G8R GRAD
January 5, 2009 4:11 PM | Link to this
Football fanatic:
I too believe UT should be in Miami. But until the Big 12 changes its tie-breaker format, … … … … … here we are!
By Born2Buzz
January 5, 2009 4:18 PM | Link to this
AtlantaGator, thanks for the My Team beat Your Team Website. That was great.
I put Utah in against the other 3 pretenders that Tony put up and guess what, Utah was better than all of them but you couldn’t flip the script and prove the others were better than Utah.
Undefeated and beating Bama, who was #1 for awhile this year, I’d say Utah has the best case.
I’d also say the Big 12 isn’t looking as good now that they’ve stepped out and played some other conferences. I think their only wins came agains the Big 10, who has only beaten the imploded SCarolina team. I expect Texas to struggle with Ohio State and Florida to romp on Oklahoma. More ammunition for Utah.
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 4:37 PM | Link to this
HAL——Good to see that the humor chip is working for you.
Born2Buzz——the “My Team is Better than Your Team” website is based on the simple fact that you can connect virtually all of the one-loss teams to all of the other teams through chains of wins and losses. It’s a bit like the “six degrees of separation” concept. The more games played, the more interconnected the 119 Division I teams become through chains of wins and losses. It relies on the false logic of the transitive property (A >> B; B >> C; therefore, A >> C) in human affairs (as opposed to mathematics). The logic does not work, of course, for unbeaten teams, of which there is now only one left.
G8R GRAD——That’s not a horse; that’s a mule or an a*. Pick one.
By Shaye
January 5, 2009 4:39 PM | Link to this
Whoa, some Bama hatred here… “Utah just beat us plain and simple. No excuses. It was clear Bama was not ready to play that game.” Yep, yep, and yep. That said, it was a good season and I’ve been saying all along it’s a building year. Disgusting end, but I’ll take 12-2. We’ll see who’s better next year, UGA or us, but I’d bet it won’t be the pups.
Back on-topic… Under any scenario: USC, no way. ESPECIALLY without a conference championship game. Texas… eh. Their own conference screwed them, so they get little sympathy from me. Besides, the 2 games I watched showed they have crap for a D.
If Florida or Oklahoma wins, they are the BCS champion, end of story. I’m not sure I would vote for Utah as AP national champs regardless of the outcome, but damn, would I love to see them play the BCS winner. They may have whipped our butts, but they played good football, and I think that would be a heck of a game. I believe that’s what all this is supposed to be about.
By War Chant 2008
January 5, 2009 4:41 PM | Link to this
I have to agree with Tony. Utah probably should be the National Champion. They proved last Friday night that they are a legitimate team because they beat the brakes off of Alabama. Alabama is still a good team with some flaws now that they were exposed in that game with no offense. Without Javier Arenas punt return they really didn’t do anything with the Utes. Utah’s defense shut down the offense of the Tide. The best person to ask who the best team in the country is John Parker Wilson. He pretty much stayed on his back most of the night looking at the Superdome ceiling tiles that were missing.
By G8R GRAD
January 5, 2009 4:47 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator:
Well said.
Great minds drink alike!
By swampjacket
January 5, 2009 4:50 PM | Link to this
WTF HAS A SMALL penis.
HAHAHAHAHA.
YOU MUST HAVE LOVED FU#&ING MY FAT@SS MOM. I HEARD YOU BULLPUPS LOVED THICK WOMEN. I MEAN LOOKING AT MOST OF THE TRAILOR TRASH THAT I HAVE SEEN TAILGATING IN ATHENS!!!
By Bill
January 5, 2009 4:51 PM | Link to this
Ah, Will….Still upset at the a** kicking Bama laid on your beloved Dawgs?? JJ can’t hold AJ’s jock? What a laugh!! Utah did beat us, but no one else outside of Florida (who also stomped the Dogs again) did..Our schedule was easy? Granted it wasn’t the toughest but it seems to me that we play OM, TN, LSU, Auburn every year and rotate others from the east, including stomping the Dawgs this year and barely losing in OT last year in Saban’s first year. Our OOC wasn’t that strong (was yours?) but we did beat a Clemson team ranked in the top ten at the time (hindsight is 20/20) while you lost to A GT team that got it’s butt handed to them by LSU… Quit being such a hater, my friend…
By bama12titles
January 5, 2009 4:57 PM | Link to this
WTG???
If the hater vitriol you’ve been spouting is directed at Bama Stan then please say so directly. Some of your vitriol towards Bama is just plain dumb.
To say that we are last years Hawaii is utterly ridiculous. We lost by 14, not 31 pts and we lost to the only unbeaten team in the country. BTW, the mountain west has dominated the pac 10 2 years in a row going 5-1 and 6-0 against the pac 10 which went 5-0 this bowl season. There’s nothing embarrassing about losing to a good team from a vastly underrated conference. If the big east is a bcs conference than there is no doubt the mountain west should be a bcs conference.
You mockingly said we are irrelevant once again. Really? We will still finish in the top 10 and going 12-2 with only one bad game the whole season hardly means we’re irrelevant. The Florida game was hardly an embarrassment as we actually led the game in the 4th qtr before losing to a great team led by Tim Tebow.
We didn’t embarrass ourselves in hawaii like fashion by the score of 49-10. That dubious distinction belonged to the dawgs. And we didn’t get embarrassed at home on blackout night with the entire nation watching. Lastly, I would rather lose to a an undefeated Utah team that is being touted as deserving of a national title than get embarrassed by a 2 loss west virginia team in my own state.
As far as relevancy goes 12-2 is more relevant than 10-3 is it not?
By Bill
January 5, 2009 4:59 PM | Link to this
I was really surprised at all the hatred on here towards Bama until I realized that there are a lot of Auburn fans in Georgia..Guess 36-0 stills grates a little…Bottom line is Utah beat us, but we beat ourselves more so. We were 12-2 this year, ahead of anyone’s schedule…Bama will be strong for years to come now..Live with it…
By Saban is the Woody Hayes of SEC
January 5, 2009 5:03 PM | Link to this
What nobody has commented on was Saban’s “Woody Hayes” moment.
Late in 2nd half, Utah WR caught pass for 1st down and the Bama player tackled him at the Bama sideline.
Saban runs up from the left side of the screen and EXPLODES on the Bama player who made the tackle. Check your Tivo. Saban’s face looked like PURE EVIL. What a tool.
Why would ANY player want to play for a ANY coach that acts like a psychopath and shows an uncontrollable rage meltdown on national TV?!
By Old GT Nut
January 5, 2009 5:09 PM | Link to this
45-42
We stepped on your face with a hobnail boot and broke your nose. We C-R-U-S-H-E-D your face.
By Sautee Dawg
January 5, 2009 5:09 PM | Link to this
Tony
Another season full of who could be and who won’t be. For once i think the BCS and it’s computer format got the 2 best teams in the BCS game. Oklahoma played 8 opponents this season that played in bowl games, while Florida played 8 teams that played in bowls, just shows that the strength of schedule part of the equation worked like it should. Texas i think played 5 bowl bound teams. USC 4. UTAH 2.
By bama12titles
January 5, 2009 5:14 PM | Link to this
Bill,
The hating is not from Auburn fans, its mostly dawg fans and the reason is twofold. A lot of them are justifiably ticked off about the ragging bamastan as been giving them all year.
The other reason is just the deep seated resentment and anger that I’ve always seen UGA fans display towards Bama. I’ve lived equal time in both states and have noticed that Georgians for some reason always like to dump on the state of Alabama for some reason. Maybe they think they are somehow superior but you always see a lot of references to Bama people living in trailers, caves, marrying kin, blah, blah.
I think it spills over to how they feel about their college football team. They fancy themselves as superior to Alabamaians and so what really eats at them is the acknowledgement that Bama is the bigger, more tradition laden football program. Comparing them to us is like the proverbial gnat on the back of the elephant’s backside so to speak.
The Georgia program has always been in the shadow of Alabama’s program except for the few probation years of the early 2000s. Now that we’re back we will stay on top in the west with Saban and continous top 5 recruiting classes. Aint no stopping that. Its here to stay and that’s what bugs the hell outta dawg fans.
We will continously dominate our division while UF dominates the east. If you’re UGA its especially disheartening to see that they have been reduced to irrelevancy. That’s why they have such sheer unadulterated joy when Bama finally lost to UF and even more joy when we lost to Utah. Its just jealousy and resentment. Plain and simple.
By bama12titles
January 5, 2009 5:17 PM | Link to this
Old GT Nut,
That’s way too funny. I bet they never thought they would see that phrase again.
By shane#1
January 5, 2009 5:21 PM | Link to this
Hey Atlanta Gator, I have my jorts ready for next Thursday, but my lady friend has refused to bleach her hair or buy a Camero. What do I do now? BTW, while driving through the South Ga countryside today I saw a hand lettered sign in front of a doublewide advertising “goats 4 sale”! I thought immediately of the Gen.!
By Pac-10: 5 and 0
January 5, 2009 5:23 PM | Link to this
Let’s see here….
Ole Miss beats Florida: 31-30 Ole Miss beats TxTech: 47-34 Oklahoma beats TxTech: 65-21
So, OU was alomst 2 TDs better than Ole Miss vs. TxTech on offense, and 2 TDs better than Ole Miss vs. TxTech on defense.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…..
Booomer Sooner beat down coming for Florida.
By Gary
January 5, 2009 5:23 PM | Link to this
When you’re the only undefeated team in the country and you beat top ten teams and knock off a former #1 team in your bowl game, you’ve earned the number one spot. They may come from a crummy conference, but they proved on the field they are champs. Let Florida or Oklahoma claim the BCS. We know who finished undefeated, and it wasn’t the Gators or Sooners.
By GT
January 5, 2009 5:31 PM | Link to this
Every year that four or five teams are left out of the mix is four or five more schools that will pressure someone for a playoff. This ain’t stemcell research this is a very fixable problem. You wonder if the wineing is more fun for some people that the actual winning. I remember acting mad some guy asked the homecoming queen out before I got to ask her as if I was going to be in the competition. Some of those teams know they are championship material but are making their alumni happy complaining and in the meanwhile praying nobody takes them up on it.
By dumbazz reasoning
January 5, 2009 5:32 PM | Link to this
Pac10 and 5-0.
Are you forgetting that the Mountain west has thoroughly dominated you 2 years in a row. What’s their record ? 5-1 and 6-0 against the pac10.
Lets see. Utah beat someone who beat Oregon State who beat USC. Yep. Aint no doubt USC would lose to Utah.
Your logic is asinine. Anyone can use the ole so and so beat so and so who beat so and so all day long to come up with whatever argument suits your case. You should know better
By met
January 5, 2009 5:52 PM | Link to this
Only school with a claim is Utah. Texas and USC signed up for this mess. Texas is bound by the rules of its conference which opened the door for Oklahoma.
Utah however is really getting screwed. They beat several legit teams, not just pansies like some other bcs pretenders (uh hawaii comes to mind)or one game wonders (uh boise state comes to mind).
If Utah gets shut out then that is the biggest crime since auburn’s undefeated snub.
I didn’t vote for Obama but I agree with him on the BCS.
By Sautee Dawg
January 5, 2009 6:03 PM | Link to this
Bama 12 titles
Your post was partly true, with the talent that the Gators have coming next season they could go undefeated in 09. After watching Alabama lose it’s last 2 games of the season i’m not so sure about your prediction on them winning the SEC West in 09. Saban has a hard time winning in big games kinda like Jim Trussel at Ohio State. Ole Miss and LSU may have something to say about who represents the west next year. I may be wrong but i just don’t see Alabama being as dominate in the West as Gators are in the East. Not all Dawg fans hate Bama either, matter of fact Sautee Dawg don’t hate anybody, I pull for Bama whenever their not playing UGA. As i do all the SEC programs, Team that i’m most impressed with in the SEC is OlE MISS. Good Luck next season with your predictions.
OLD GT NUT
watch what your saying there, you don’t want us to bring Reggie Ball’s jersey out of retirement do you?
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 6:04 PM | Link to this
shane——You are out of control, my friend. Goats?!
You may find some jorts, bleach blond hair and vintage Camaros in parts of Florida (and Georgia, too), but goats?! What the hell?!
Oh, well. I will gladly accept your good thoughts (and gentle elbow to the ribs) on behalf of the Gators. The Gators are my family, and the SEC is my tribe … and what a whacky tribe it is. Hopefully, the General is distilling a fresh batch of sipping solvent in honor of the BCS title game. That should get Dawgs, Gators and Vols to behave well together.
By Class of '98
January 5, 2009 6:33 PM | Link to this
In reply to someone who says a traditionally weak baseball would have a chance in the playoffs versus the Yankees or Red Sox…
yes, because that baseball team would have earned their by having played the Re Sox and Yankees during the season (multiple times).
Do we want to see WAC and Mountain West teams scheduling cream-puffs out of conference because they know a 12-0 record will automatically qualify them for a playoff.
Think about unitended consequences before trashing the current system.
NO PLAYOFF!!!
By Matt
January 5, 2009 6:51 PM | Link to this
UTAH and USC lovers: I’d like to offer my personal congratulations on beating a tough SEC team and Big 10 team at home. Now get out there and do it the next 4 weeks, take a week off, then do it 3 more. Don’t play San Diego St. or Washington, Weber St. or Washington St., Utah St. or UCLA. It’s not hard to beat a good team when you only play one every month or so, then have 3 or 4 weeks to recover. Try doing it on a week-to-week basis and see if your record looks near as pretty. Hell USC had 2 remotely tough road games, lost one and won the other by 7. Clear a real schedule, THEN we can talk possible national championship.
By SGT CHRIS
January 5, 2009 6:59 PM | Link to this
SO NOT A PROPONENT OF THE BCS, BUT IF YOURE GONNA HAVE A BCS, WHY NOT HAVE ALL THE CONFERENCES INVOLVED HAVE A TITLE GAME. ALL THE CONFERENCE WINNERS PLAY IT OUT IN A TOURNAMENT I-AA STYLE, AND LET EVERYONE ELSE HAVE THE BOWL GAMES. ALL CONFERENCE MEMBERS GET A SHARE OF BOWL REVENUE ANYWAY, SO WHY NOT!!!
By swampjacket
January 5, 2009 7:00 PM | Link to this
TAKE IT BACK OLD GT NUT!! WHAT IF THEY REALLY CAN BRING BACK REGGIE!!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
By BRENT
January 5, 2009 7:33 PM | Link to this
PLAY-EFFIN-OFF. PERIOD.
By UGA is so last year
January 5, 2009 7:55 PM | Link to this
? If Ohio State wins, they should be part of a play-off too. You need at least 8 teams in a play-off, not 4. Other divisions have 16 - I think we can make do with 8 for starters. And even though Utah beat Bama, you can;t compare Utah to Oklahoma, Florida or USC - please!!! Get real.
By UGA is so last year
January 5, 2009 7:58 PM | Link to this
PS: don’t mess with Old GT Nut. He knows what he talks abot. We DID drop our battle axe on Georgia’s head! When we met HER - or team was sure to beat HER! Sorry Charlies! Bragging rights are ours - so shut up!
By Lee
January 5, 2009 8:13 PM | Link to this
Sorry Texas, if you don’t win your conference, I don’t see how you can consider yourself eligible of the MNC.
Personally, I see it as a three way tie between Utah, USC, and the winner of the Fla/OK game - with the caveat that FLA/OK lives up to the hype.
By jay jarrell
January 5, 2009 8:45 PM | Link to this
I agree,Utah,We all know the BCS is not Right , playing for money is greed.
By marie
January 5, 2009 9:13 PM | Link to this
Gooooooooo Sooners. Let me see— so far, 2 of the teams who beat UGA have lost their bowl game. Would it not be ironic if fl. lost too. there is some justice.
By Pi$$onaDawg
January 5, 2009 9:35 PM | Link to this
DAMN, I need to get my HIGH SCHOOL MIND BACK IN GEAR to talk on this BLOG. Does anybody have some good WEED(if that is still the term) I can put in my Brain Bubble Bath? I am going to put on some Led ZEP and get ALLLLRIGGGGGGHT to talk to you fools. I know the world is BAD when people PRAY & send Blessings for J. Travolta’s Family. People he is a HUMANISTS and does not beleive in GOD unless GOD is himself, L. Ron HUBBARD, and Tom “CHRIST” CRUSE. You people have too much of your lives invested in a GAME and Young men you don’t even know. College ball is fun and enjoy it but one more Ni$$er Thug playing Ball doesn’t change your life unless you bet well on the games. Now, putting a Gentalman’s Club Entertainer in your spare bedroom while she finishes “SCHOOL” is changing the world for sure and your wife/girlfriend should understand you are just being a good man to that young lady just like you are being a role model for the College THUGs you helped bail out from Athens-Clarke County Jail. CAN I GET a PULL off that BONG CRM? Quit BOGARTING the BRAIN TRUST you bald headed BI**H, cause Joe H. and Q. Carter need a DRAG TOO.
By Pi$$onaDawg
January 5, 2009 9:46 PM | Link to this
GARNER stayed because he knows WILLIE is going to be gone within a week of the FEB. siging day and within a year MIAMI will be looking for a coach too. JAWGA will never let a BLACK MAN be too high paid but they will keep him around. Uga already made a Black man(D. EVENS) the AD and that is enough fo a southern school.
By War Eagle
January 5, 2009 9:56 PM | Link to this
Utah fans have every right to be upset at this mess which is the BCS. Utah fans and Auburn fans have something very much in common. We both go undefeated and we both get screwed. YET, USC gets a share of the NT in 03 with LSU even though they don’t play for the NT. ???? It’s media bias from ESPN and other sports writers. ESPN is in love with USC, Ohio State, Florida and Oklahomo. Auburn set an all-time NFL draft with four first round picks. They had the best scoring and rushing defense in the country, go undefeated in the SEC which has not been done in 11 years AND have two of the best running backs. The only problem ESPN could come up with to trash talk Auburn with was playing the Citadel. The same Citadel that Alabama played this year. The same Citadel that many other ranked teams play. IT didn’t matter that Auburn beat 6 top ten teams. It didn’t matter than Auburn beat VT by 3 points even though USC beat VT by 6 points in the same season. So, UTAH fans, complain all you want because Oklahomo would be beaten by Utah easily. Why? Because they’d play with a huge chip on their shoulder just like they did when they destroyed Alabama. WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!!!!
By shane#1
January 5, 2009 10:46 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator, the goat reference was for the General, he is always busy on the goat farm when off duty at the Waffle House and not ‘stillin’ sippin’ solvent. We all know that what is loosely called “dirt” in Florida would not have enough organic matter to support a goat. I have solved the bleached blonde hair problem by getting another lady friend. She tends bar at the pool hall and passes very well for a Florida Girl. BTW, She already has a ‘74 Camaro.
By Atlanta Gator
January 5, 2009 11:59 PM | Link to this
Shane——Niiiiiice.
By FinanceBuzz
January 6, 2009 12:11 AM | Link to this
Wow…Utah, beat….MICHIGAN!! HUGE win!! NOT!! And mighty 8-5 Air Force. And let’s not forget TCU who lost to OU…but who else did they play???
When Utah can play Bama’s schedule or UF’s schedule and come out with none or one loss then we will talk. An upset in a bowl over a team that most likely had a hard time getting up for a team they would like not schedule a home and home series with does not a national champion make.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 12:16 AM | Link to this
Wow. The Fiesta Bowl was the best of the BCS bowls thus far. The defenses dictated the tempo of the game for most of the first 3 quarters. Notwithstanding the third consecutive BCS bowl loss by Ohio State, coach Jim Tressel showed that he is still a great play-caller. Texas QB Colt McCoy turned in a Heisman-worthy performance, winning the game for the Longhorns with 2-minute drill drive in the last 2:30 of the game.
What didn’t happen? A blow-out for the vaunted Big XII offense of Texas. So far, none of the marquee Big XII offenses have truly dominated their bowl opponents. A good defense apparently can still slow, if not stop, a Big XII offense.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 12:30 AM | Link to this
War Eagle——The biggest difference between the circumstances of undefeated Auburn in 2004 and undefeated Utah in 2008 was that Auburn’s strength of schedule was not ranked in the in the bottom half of all Division I teams. Utah played the schedule they had, and had good wins over TCU and Alabama, but they did not play a top-20 schedule like Texas, Oklahoma and Florida, and the Utes average margin of victory against an easier schedule was not even close to that of the other three teams. Utah would not have been undefeated if they had played a Big XII or SEC schedule (8 regular season conference games, plus a championship game).
What lends Utah’s present situation to a lot of complaining is that the Utes are 13-0, while the two teams who will play for the BCS title are both 12-1. Auburn, as I am sure you will recall, was jammed up behind two other undefeated teams in the BCS standings in 2004.
I predict Utah will finish third or fourth in both the final BCS standings and the AP poll. For the record, there have been plenty of unbeaten teams that have not finished number 1. Ask Joe Paterno.
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 12:54 AM | Link to this
Utah 25-23 Michigan (3-9)
Utah 42-21 UNLV (5-7)
Utah 58-10 Utah State (3-9)
Utah 30-23 Air Force (8-5)
Utah 37-21 Weber State (10-4, Division I-AA)
Utah 31-28 Oregon State (9-4)
Utah 40-7 Wyoming (4-8)
Utah 49-16 Colorado State (7-6)
Utah 13-10 New Mexico (4-8)
Utah 13-10 Texas Christian (11-2)
Utah 63-14 San Diego State (2-10)
Utah 48-24 Brigham Young (10-3)
Utah 31-17 Alabama (12-2)
By Atlanta Gator
January 6, 2009 1:34 AM | Link to this
Looked at another way, the collective win-loss record of Florida’s 13 Division I opponents is 105-63 (.6250). The collective win-loss record of Utah’s 12 Division I opponents is 78-73 (.5166).
Florida played 3 teams with losing records. Utah played 6 teams with losing records.
Florida will have played 9 teams from the SEC, 2 teams from ACC, 1 team from the Big XII, 1 team from the WAC, and I Division I-AA team.
Utah has played 8 teams from the Mountain West, 1 team from the SEC, 1 team from the Pac-10, 1 team from the Big Ten, 1 team from the WAC, and 1 Division I-AA team.
Florida played 1 game decided by 21 or fewer points (a 1-point loss). Utah played 9 games decided by 21 or fewer points.
All of these factors contributed to Utah’s much weaker strength of schedule ratings and lower BCS ranking.
Utah had a remarkable year and played in several memorable games. But Oklahoma, Texas and Florida played schedules far harder than Utah’s by any objective measure.
By Supes
January 6, 2009 1:56 AM | Link to this
Where you at SUCK EYE FAN? Yeah, hiding under a rock probably where you belong!
So much for the “revenge” of the SUCK EYES.
Lost in a bowl game…YET again!
Lucky your sorry a* over rated team didn’t have to play an SEC school, or USC again. You would have gotten destroyed. Lucky for you, you got to play Texas, and yet your sorry a* team STILL lost.
Suck Eyes - Biggest CHOKERS from all six major BCS conferences combined! Your only opposition comes from Chokelahoma, and they may actually win on Thursday, leaving you and with ND as Bowl Biatches!
The Ohio State Suck Eyes - Biggest Losers!
By Otto
January 6, 2009 2:09 AM | Link to this
GatorGuy: I’m surprised if you’re a graduate of UF. If you were, you’d know the history of the Rose Bowl, how it interfaces with The Tournament of Roses and what that event represents to the history of Los Angeles. USC is not to blame that the world’s most beautiful football stadium, and our vacation home, is located 15 minutes from campus. Florida is always welcome to play earlier in the year to prevent these tedious arguments.
By Lou
January 6, 2009 3:34 AM | Link to this
this debate is getting VERY old. I’ve been watching college football since 1980 as a young kid and it’s been the same argument ever since. It was actually better back then; this bcs nonsense is terrible. College football is the least competitive of all major sports including nba, mlb, nfl, ncaa hoops, ncaa baseball, nhl. it sux.. the only games that matter for me; uga fan are UT, Gators, GT, and maybe SC. I am starting to hate college football.
By Sautee Dawg
January 6, 2009 8:40 AM | Link to this
Once again Ohio State, proves that they dont belong on the national stage. Texas in my opinion with a similar performance proves that they also may have been overrated. An average balanced team could have beaten either last night.
By Just having fun
January 6, 2009 8:57 AM | Link to this
UGA did good with landing Branden Smith. UGA should look at WR Michael Bowman from Ridgeland High School in the Northwest Georgia area. I’m from this area and I’ve seen this guy play. With Bowman and A.J. Green at the wideouts next season, it will be hard for anyone to contain the UGA offense especially if Stafford comes back for his senior season. But with Stafford being projected as a top 5 pick, I doubt he will be back as well as Knowshon Moreno.
By WTF???
January 6, 2009 8:57 AM | Link to this
Like I said, Bama is irrelevant. Until they win the SEC, not just their division they will remain irrelevant. 12-2 & what to show for it? A top 10 ranking once every 10 years? Lets see what Saban does with out Smith & that big center next year with an inexperienced signal caller. Once again, I understand that Bama has 12 titles but the Bear is dead. It’s time for a reality check….
By ECU Pirate
January 6, 2009 9:16 AM | Link to this
The SEC and Big 12 are not the best conferences. They are the best at playing weak opponents at home. However, they cannot beat their fellow Automatic Qualifier BCS breteren.
The Mountain West won 64.3% of its games vs Automatic Qualifier BCS teams. Compare that to 40% by the SEC; and 46.7% by the Big 12.
The Mountain West Played 58.3% of their Out of Conference games at home. Compare that to 72.9% by the SEC; and 75% by the Big 12. The big name conferences enjoy a huge home field advantage.
By JohnnyPolo24
January 6, 2009 9:19 AM | Link to this
First comment, Gator Guy: “all of those Schools (execpt Utah) play in conferences that chose to be part of the BcS.” Utah didn’t choose anything. The BCS is an organization that is owned and operated by the six participating conferences. The NCAA has nothing to do with it. It’s a “rich get richer” scheme. Utah has a very good case this year, especially considering how well other teams from their conference fared this year. The MWC had a strong season, and they went undefeated. They knocked off UM before they threw in the towel, and they blew Alabama away in the Sugar exhibition game. This is why the BCS needs to be outlawed, and the NCAA needs to run a championship playoff like they do in EVERY SINGLE OTHER SPORT.
By ECU Pirate
January 6, 2009 9:40 AM | Link to this
To quote Dale Earnhardt: Texas, USC and the winner of the mythical national championship are the co-holders of the title: “First Place Loser”.
Bottom line is that Florida, Oklahoma, USC and Texas are all losers. Very good teams; but losers.
Utah is a winner; not a loser.
Utah is #1.
By whiskey
January 6, 2009 10:21 AM | Link to this
UTAH should be number one.
I had no idea they were this good before they beat up on Bama, but their schedule was as tough as anyone’s, regardless of being in a traditionally mediocre conference. We were all totally wrong about Bama beating them, so how can we predict what would happen against the other top teams? I don’t see how the only undefeated team left should not be declared champions.
By Paqo
January 6, 2009 10:58 AM | Link to this
Utah beat every team that it played. For everyone whining about SOS, like coach Whittingham said time and again, Utah can only play the teams it is scheduled to play. Texas opts out of playing Utah? No head to head comparison can be made. How will anyone know how good Utah could be against Oklahoma or Florida? They know that Utah will bring a better game than, say, the Citadel, so we never even have the talk. I get it. They want to win, and the Utahs and Boise States are good football teams that have nothing to lose, so they won’t schedule them.
Also, I get tired of the “If they played in the SEC…” argument. If Utah played in the SEC, their recruiting would be different, and they would be as deep as any of the other teams in that conference. Same argument as the SOS - we will never know until it actually happens.
Utah. Undefeated. National Champions.
By arizonaobserver
January 6, 2009 1:46 PM | Link to this
The article raises an interesting point. Handling the basketball season the same way as they handle the football season, the NCAA could just get to the final 4 in basketball, cancel the tournament and just calculate who the champion should be. Use polls, RPI, maybe get a few computers involved. They should perhaps ask themselves why they don’t do that and then apply that logic to football.
By WE ARE SC
January 6, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this
WE ARE SC
We play FBS teams; we don’t play Div 1AA team like ALL the other FBS Bowl teams have. AND ALL SEC TEAMS DO
We played 6 teams during the regular season that played in post season Bowls (not 4 as some Homer posted)
The winner of the Florida/OU game is the National Champion. If the AP picks a different team that’s on them..
We DON’T avoid anyone. We believe we can beat ANYBODY. EVERYONE knew USC fans and players wanted Texas or Bama, but OSU lost to Oregon. Penn State felt disrespected, but that wasn’t the intention. We only wanted an opportunity to Smack either the SEC or Big 12 in the mouth.
Our OOC opponents had the best win/loss record of all the top 8 in the BCS.
The PAC 10 is 5-0 in Bowl games, the best record of any conference.
We play every team in our conference every year (NO NEED FOR A PLAYOFF)
WE ARE SC
FIGHT ON!
By RC
January 9, 2009 9:41 AM | Link to this
Florida wins the Mythical National Championship; and then declares that they will fiercely defend their title by opening the 2009 season against:
Charlston Southern.
At home of Course!
Way to go! Typical SEC Scheduling.
Most Powerful Conference in the world; and will prove it against lowly teams at home.
When the regular season ends, the SEC will also be happy to host a sieres of bowl games.