Mr. College Football

By SCDAWG

December 9, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

With a four team playoff UGA would have won the NC in 2002 and last year!

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

45-42

By Old GT Nut

December 9, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

This is the kind of season that makes me all misty eyed. I used to sit around the bug zapper on the front porch with the grandkids, tellin’ em about Alexander & Dodd.

But now greatness has arrived at the Flats again, I just wish i could remember how to get there.

By Herschel Talker

December 9, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

I see that RAMBLE ON gets to blow his wad once every 8 years. You’re more pathetic than we get beating UF every blue moon. Do you even have a job?

By chazz

December 9, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Of course the voters would pick Southern Cal. USC is the media darling. They will always get picked. What’s more, they would definitely play the easiest matchup possible. The BCS is worse than the way it was before and not as good as a playoff. It is a half-measures, money machine that is most likely controlled by gambling.

By YoungDawg

December 9, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Just get it to a plus 1 then it’ll eventually grow! If the PAC 10 & BIG 11 still want to go to the Rose Bowl then fine let them do their own thing while the rest of us decide the NC on the field! If we could get to a 16 team playoff the craze for it would be even bigger than March Madness. The big 6 school presidents are reluctant because they’d have to share the money like in basket ball but as Tony alluded the payout would be so huge that there’s be more than enough to share. That’s what will change their minds the money to made from a playoff will have to dwarf what the bowl payouts equal too. Trust me it will!

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Comments in response to Tony——

(1) Sad, but true. The Bowl Coalition, Bowl Alliance and Bowl Championship Series never promised us a rose garden, just a match-up of number one vs. number two. Two much time has been spent trying to preserve the participant bowls’ historical conference affiliations and perceived priorities. Unfortunately, that was unavoidable. Major concessions were made to the Rose Bowl, Big Ten and Pac-10 just to get them to participate, and then other concessions regarding the tie-ins had to be made to the Sugar, Orange and Fiesta to make them feel as if they hadn’t gotten jobbed by the Rose. This is how we wound up with an Alabama-vs.-Utah Sugar Bowl——the Sugar Bowl committee exercised its priority right to replace Florida with the SEC runner-up, but didn’t get the next BCS pick because of the pre-established BCS picking rotation that changes each year.

Ironically, I believe that the BCS has always contained the seeds of its own destruction. Clearly, the demand among coaches, players and fans is building for a four or eight-team playoff. The fading star power of the Rose Bowl and other BCS bowl mismatches will only accelerate the trend. Will the Orange Bowl sell out this year? Probably not. Would Utah vs. Ohio State have done better? No doubt. Texas vs. Alabama? You betcha. Boise State vs. USC? Good golly——what if Boise won? There’s a game I would pay to see.

(2) Again, sad but true. In order to maintain their traditional conference tie-ins, the BCS bowls have only hurt themselves. The Texas-Alabama match-up, whether played in the Sugar or Fiesta Bowl, would have been a game to remember. Instead, Ohio State and Utah will get stomped by Texas and Alabama.

(3) Because Ohio State has a national fan base and television audience, and Boise State does not … yet. Time was 20 years ago when the Gators didn’t have much of a national following, either. Times change, and the rules need to permit evolution of the hierarchy.

(4) Texas Tech got left out because they got stomped by Oklahoma. All the other one-loss teams lost respectably. Texas Tech experienced a 44-point melt-down. (What the hell is a “Red Raider,” anyway? NCAA political correctness alert: that sounds an awful lot like a veiled reference to Native Americans!)

(5) Sorry, but some potentially deserving team will always get left out, whether it’s a 2-team championship, or a 4, 8, 16-team playoff. Tough noogies. Strength of schedule should count. Don’t like it? Simple—-then arrange a tougher out-of-conference schedule. Florida should not play The Citadel. Georgia should not schedule Central Michigan. Oklahoma should not set foot on the same field as UT-Chattanooga. Texas Tech should not be playing Eastern Washington, Nevada and UMAss (all in the same season, no less). Texas should be embarrassed to play Florida Atlantic. Even Southern Cal might want to consider dropping Notre Dame for a while … at least until the Pac-10 starts to show more signs of life.

Look, even the good conferences have two or three traditional patsies. Most have more. I’ll even concede scheduling one game per year to a lesser in-state program (UGA vs. GSU, Texas vs UTEP, Texas Tech vs SMU, UF vs. FSU), but this is not what the fans where promised when the Division I schedules were expanded to 12 games. Frankly, I won’t even turn the TV on when the Gators play Southwestern Louisiana. It’s just wrong.

“And that’s all I’m gonna say about that.” Forrest Gump, Alabama ‘66.

By bank walker

December 9, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Folks I’m telling ya, the Sugar bowl is turning into the Sweet & Low Bowl! This is the second year that the BS bowl system has done this! The Sugar is the SEC’s bread and butter outside the championship game, of course! It’s ridiculous that they choose teams like Utah and Hawaii to play our second best in it! It’s a slap in the face! The ratings are lower, their fan bases are much smaller, and there is less money to be made. It’s a lose, lose situation.

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Herschel Talker——It ain’t a rivalry unless the other team wins one from time to time. You’re going to have to learn to live with a little sassiness from Tech fans for the next 11 months.

By saint nick

December 9, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

In a perfect world, it should be 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4, 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, 9 vs 10. BUT, that would make too much sense, and as we have all learned over 10 years of BCS games, making sense DOESN’T MAKE SENSE!!!!It should be Texas and Bama, USC and Utah, TT and Penn State, OSU and Boise ST. The best bowl game will probably be TCU vs Boise St. The monkey wrench in all this mess is the Rose Bowl, when those old farts die off and get new blood in with new ideas, then and only then will the process change. Maybe when a Pac-10 and Big-10 team go undefeated and get left out so they can have a “traditional Rose Bowl” Maybe they will change there tune a little.ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!

By NicknNash

December 9, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Well it looks like the guaranteed greed of the conferences to secure (guarantee) a spot in a top bowl seems to be the culprit. Executive greed, isn’t that the same thing that has caused our financial crisis today. It’s the small guy that always pays.

By Okefenokee Dawgs

December 9, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

You know RAMBLE ON that 45-42 sounds really weak. Why don’t you come up with something like 51-7? Oh… never mind.

By Charlotte Dawg 06'

December 9, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

WOBBLE’ ON: 8 - 1.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

How bout:

8 straight is the series record.

26 third quarter points from the same offense coming back next year. Hmmm, I’m thinking 104-0 next year!!!

Looking forward to it. Does that sound a little stronger?

By Miles

December 9, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Mr. Barnhart, is there a rule anywhere within the guidelines of the BCS system that states two teams from the same conference can not play each other in the BCS Championship? For instance, if team A was ranked number 1 in the final rankings and team B (from the same conference) was ranked number 2 in the final rankings, could/would these two teams meet for the BCS Championship? Please advise. Thank you.

By Tony Barnhart

December 9, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Miles,

Two teams from the same conference can play for the NC if they finish 1-2. We were close to seeing that on Sunday. Texas was a close third behind Florida in the BCS Standings. If Oklahoma and Texas had finished 1-2, they would have met for the title.

TB

By Dawg92

December 9, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

The problem I see is that the Sugar and the Fiesta are the BCS bowls that get pooped on every year and are forced to take Boise or Utah or Hawaii.

How is it fair that the Rose bowl will NEVER have to extend an invite to a mid level team other than THE OHIO STATE.

I’d complain about the Orange but getting a WAC team would be an improvement.

By Will

December 9, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Big Tone,

I’m glad my dawgs aren’t a part of this BCS bore-fest schedule this year. What a waste of time for Alabama to win all of those games and then get stuck with playing Utah? What does that prove if they beat them? Who cares? I don’t see any games that really excites me with the exception of the NC game. Do you guys? I hate the way college football ends!

By SC Rules!!!

December 9, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Now I know my comments are gonna pss off several of you, GOOD! (Sorry shane #1 I gotta say what I gotta say) SEC fans, QUIT your btching about the Rose Bowl and the PAC 10/Big 10(11) messing up everything because you don’t like who ‘Bama is playing!!! Y’all insist on playing a bunch of nobodys in your non-conf scheduels to puff up your lame a$$ stats and poll positions then cry to the heavens abotu how “we’ve” screwed you!?!? I am SO DAMNED SICK and TIRED of y’all p*ssing and moaning about YOUR OWN undoing!!! Get the hell over yourselves, y’all aren’t as great as y’all like to think! I have until this moment wished UF well and hoped they win vs OU; well now I am changing my vote, I hope OU runs the lizrds over and skewers ‘em but good! Y’all need a dose of reality and I don’t mean that can of courage that your momma handed ya during half time last night. We’ll go about our business nad we’ll whip the kittens but good then sit back and wattch y’all cry in your soup sandwhiches as OU wins the NC and we finish #2 in the final poll. Y’all better hope your “fix” is still in with the BCS come next season ‘cause y’all sure as hell don’t want anything to do with us!!!!! Fight On!!!! (sec pansies)

By Gen Neyland

December 9, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

The creation of the BCS offers more take than give… Why do I hear Dr. Frankenstein screaming, “It’s alive!! It’s alive!!!”

By SC Rules!!!

December 9, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

I really need to stick to the decaf

By hold em

December 9, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

SC Rules!!!, where have you been bud, the SEC has been like this for years, I went to an SEC school and am embarassed to be mentioned in the same sentence as some of these folks. Believe it or not there are decent SEC fans just not on this blog. By the way GO OU!!! Boomer Sooner!!!!

By billgt69

December 9, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

OK leg humpers, if you don’t like 45-42, how about 51-48. How about Jan Kemp, Harrick, crooked VD, and oh, I forgot, how many arrests this year? THWG

By Dawg92

December 9, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

So hold em, you’re supposed to be a good SEC fan but you’re rooting against an SEC school? Looks like you and SC Rules are two peas in a pod…

By Gallows Humor

December 9, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Gen Neyland, the further the Vols sink, the funnier you get. Fight on, or whatever.

By WE ARE USC

December 9, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

USC would gladly play anyone anytime. If you didn’t see the disappointment in Rey’s face last week you weren’t watching. With all due respect to PSU, I would rather play Bama or Texas. Believe me; the Trojans want a crack at the best you have to offer. If you don’t think we would give you a game, you need to check yourself into rehab. USC hasn’t lost by more than 7 points in 7 years.

Say what you want the record stands, it does the talking we do the work. We’re the best over the past 7 years, end of story.

Good Luck in your Games, until we have a playoff, it’s all speculation.

FIGHT ON

By warhorse

December 9, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

*By SCDAWG

December 9, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

With a four team playoff UGA would have won the NC in 2002 and last year!*

The dreams of little children are a wonderful thing this time of the year. Of course, poodle dreams always a bold and in big color — before the game is actually played… .

By SC Rules--Not!!!!

December 9, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Hey funny boy, how’s it feel for Southern Cal to be completely irrelevant, despite having stockpiled more 4-star and 5-star talent than any other two programs in the country? Pete Carroll does less with more! Keep spinning, funny boy, it ain’t gonna happen this year. Southern Cal is SO 2004.

By hold em

December 9, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

The SEC fans of the 90’s started this mess of cheering on the other 11 schools in the conference. No other sport does it, the SEC does it cause when their team is down a year, they have to hide behind their conference cause their team SUX!!!

By hold em

December 9, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Dawg 92, Go ahead and get that FL jersey out of your closet

By Okefenokee Dawgs

December 9, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Still mighty weak! But ya’ll only get to practice once in a decade,so you’re forgiven. But keep trying, because smack talk from a Jacket really is funny.

By PTC DAWG

December 9, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

The BCS got it so wrong this year, it’s not even funny.

What the BCS has done is get a game that most everyone votes on, and 4 other games nobody wants to see.

I think it was better in the old days.

OU/PENN STATE in the Orange..UF/TX in the Sugar(the two best teams this year)..Bama/TT in the Fiesta…USC/OSU in the nobody cares flower bowl.

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

“hold em”——If the University of Florida is my family, then the SEC is my tribe. If my family can’t win it all or doesn’t get to play, I see no problem whatsoever cheering for the other members of my tribe. Some people might even call supporting your conference rivals “good sportsmanship.”

By Chaz

December 9, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Tony,

You said it all when you wrote: “it wouldn’t be fair to the bowls” if the fans saw good games and honest competition prevailed. “It’s a business” right Tony?

I understand that you don’t make the rules, but the tone of your pieces and other writings indicate an attitude of not wanting to offend the people whom you are supposed to critically cover. You rarely if ever criticize anything or anyone. In your position as a college football journalist, you seem to go out of your way never to offend coaches, presidents, networks or the other powers that be. You get access to information and a gig on ESPN and CBS. Don’t rock the boat, right Tony?

How about doing your job once in a while by being an honest truth teller who challenges the status quo, instead of someone looking out for his own interests by coddling the people you cover?

I expect Wes Durham to shill for GT and Hondo Williamson to shill for UGA. I expect you to tell some hard truths. How about being a tough reporter, instead of a hack who will only ever criticize someone you cover when you absolutely have to?

By hold em

December 9, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator, I understand what you mean, but when it is all said and done, to cheer against a team when you play them, and then to turn around and cheer them on doesn’t make any sense. For your information when other teams in your conference lose it makes your team more competitive as long as you win. Stick to one team

By Dawg92

December 9, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Agreed Atlanta Gator.

BTW Hold em, what jersey’s in your closet?

By Scott

December 9, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

As a Bama fan I normally cheer for the other SEC teams when they are playing out of conference. The exceptions to that rule are when Auburn and Tennessee play. I would cheer for the Taliban if either of those teams were playing against them. Now that Fulmer is gone from Tennessee, my disdain for them may subside.

By Gatorman

December 9, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Before you puppies get all puffy chest about the rivalry between GT and UGA, just remember; over the last 15 years GT has beat you UGA more than you have beat us. Make sure you look at all of the facts before opening that hairy mouth of yours.

By JR

December 9, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

It’s so horrible when a Tech fan posts the score of the last game but so witty when a UGA fan posts the score from a game years ago. You can dish it out but you just can’t take it, typical dogs.

By SecIsFootball

December 9, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Newsflash…The BCS is a joke. As a BAMA fan I cannot argue with the BCS NC Game. But, it seems to me the Sugar bowl has turned into a consolation game for the SEC. Last year throwing an undeserving Hawaii into the game against UGA. This year giving an at large big to Utah. BAMA this year and UGA last year were great teams and as a result, they are rewarded with games that did and will result in blow outs. When is the BCS going to learn that games like this are not appealing to a national television audience?

By CBrad

December 9, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

I agree with Will. College football ends terribly. It’s like a movie that you love for about an hour and 45 minutes and then- it just fizzles. Why does a playoff work for Division II teams and Division III teams but not for the big guys??? Sucks! GT sucks, too.

By Ted Striker

December 9, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Tony —

The BCS was contrived and implemented by power conferences and the networks but the surest way to a playoff system is for fans to dry up the money that keeps the status quo alive.

Not everyone’s favorite team made it into the BCS this year. In fact, most fans’ favorite teams across America didn’t.

It would be unrealistic to suggest that fans of a team playing in a BCS game boycott attending or watching a live broadcast. But for everyone else — how big a sacrifice would that be?

If college football fans nationwide would simply leave their televisions off for BCS games in one bowl season — or better yet, switched the channel to something else just to send a message — you’d see playoffs coming round the bend.

I’d love it if football fans had the gumption to tune their TV sets to a rerun of Urkel so it’s a greater draw on Jan 8th as opposed to the 2009 FedEx Bowl for the BCS Championship.

Ted Striker, over and out.

By murfdawg

December 9, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

The BCS has developed into exactly what it wanted. People talking about college football 12 months a year, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. A week after the Super Bowl, no one talks about it outside the winning city. A week after the World Series, same thing.

ESPN,BCS and the college presidents have been feeding on the passion of college fans for years. This has been going on since the beginning of time. Dangle the forbidden fruit in front of the starving fans and watch them fall all over themselves trying reach it. This is one of the greatest marketing ploys of all time.

I hope everyone has fun ranting and raving about a playoff system.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Okefenokee Dawgs

I love a challenge. I should have you ROTFL by the end of this month.

By Jim

December 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Why would a conference with a championship game want to do a 4 or 8 game playoff? They virtually get only one team in. For example this year Al, FL, OU and Tx would have been in but with the championship game Al gets knocked out. Wouldn’t the big 10 and Pac 10 be at an advantage? Basically with any playoffs you will give the bigger conferences only 1 team to get in verses a Utah, Boise St, etc,…

By Dorsey Hill

December 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator,

With all due respect: Eat me.

BOOMER SOONER!!!

I’ll pull for Ole Miss to beat TT and I’ll pull for LSU to beat GT. But there is no way I’m pulling for UF, ever…in anything. You might call that being a poor loser. But then why did I pull for Michigan last year in the Citrus?

I’ve never understood the conference loyalty thing. Why should I have to ruin my holidays pulling for teams I hate every other time of the year? Should I pull for Tech because they are in the same state as UGA? I can’t see why I should. Some will say that we all have a stake in the status of the SEC. I disagree. I’d like to be the Ohio State of the SEC and have UF be the Northwestern. Wouldn’t bother me a bit. Conference title and a BCS bid almost guaranteed every year sounds pretty good to me. You think that Ohio State is complaining because Michigan is terrible? I doubt it.

First step: Oklahoma beating Florida so bad that no one wants to play in Gainesville. Likely won’t happen I know, but some dreams do come true. Like the Fiesta Bowl in 1996. Now that really was a dream come true.

By SC Rules!!!

December 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

hey NOT and others;

WE ARE SC!!! Y’all are… (SECond place)

Fight On!!!!!

By SEC fanz R funny

December 9, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

ATL g8r: that family/tribe deal says it all:

Insest is best!

It may also be coveting thy neighbor. Or just plain jealousy.

Sportmanship by sec fans??? You ever been to Baton Rubes??

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

By SecIsFootball

December 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

SC Rules….while you may consider the SEC OOC weak, we consider the same for the Pac 10’s conference schedule. That entire conference is a joke but you also want to brag about beating one good OOC opponent in OSU. UVA is average at best and ND is a complete train wreck. Come back an talk to us when the Pac 10 teams actually present a challenge to SC. By the way, how did it feel to have the Rose Bowl in doubt up until the end of the season because you guys couldnt beat Oregon State!

By Gen Neyland

December 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

I ascribe to Mr. Gator’s viewpoint but I understand Mr. em’s take on the matter too…It’s just a choice.

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

“hold em”——I don’t like to denigrate other bloggers, but you clearly do not understand the impact of strength of schedule considerations in the six BCS computer rankings. The better your team’s opponents do in their games against teams other than yours, the stronger your team’s strength of schedule will be, and the higher your team will be ranked.

I want the Gators to play 3-0 Tennessee, 6-0 LSU, 9-0 or 8-1 UGA, and a 12-0 or 11-1 SEC West champion, because it’s good for the Gators, win, lose or draw.

Personally, I also think it’s good manners and good sportsmanship. It’s not like it’s a bunch of American college kids playing the Red Army’s hockey team, for Pete’s sake.

There’s a reason why 12-1 Oklahoma and 12-1 Florida are playing for the BCS title, and 11-1 USC is not: the level of USC’s Pac-10 competition is lower than the Big XII and the SEC, and, if you believe some of the Tech fans, lower than the ACC. Strength of schedule, my friend; check into it.

BTW, I voted for the silver medalist in the last presidential election, and I strongly disagree with a hefty portion of the President-elect’s political philosophy and policy agenda. Nevertheless, I still hope the new President is successful in his efforts to turn the economy around … and that’s a hell of a lot more important than college football. No adult should ever hold a grudge over a game played by 17 to 23-year-old boys.

By Navigator

December 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Let’s be real honest here folks, before the BCS the SEC was left out more often than not because of the conference tie ins. Remember the Big 10 and the Pac 10 won many championship without having to play the the Big 8 or the SEC. At least now, the BCS has repaired that flaw (most of the time). As far as the major bowls, they always had tie in problems, so don’t act as if this is a new thing. The conference tie ins have really helped such bowls as Peach (still is to me), Citrus, Outback (really a third tier for many years), Liberty, etc. The only two bowls that seem to have lost their way is the Cotton and Gator. That’s because the Cotton had horrible facilities and the Gator failed to get enough allies in business or good enough marketing to move up the latter. One other bowl to do well in the BCS period is the Orange bowl. If it wasn’t in Florida, it may have fallen further than the Cotton. Tie ins created the Fiesta (created because AZ and AZState were not part of the Pac 8 (now Pac 10), and they never got invited to play anywhere. I also believe that when the new super stadium is completed in Dallas, the money will force the NCAA to have a 5th major. This does one really big thing for the schools, money. Also there would be an extra bowl to stick some of the lesser teams that have perfect records and teams like Texas Tech.

By JR

December 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Okefenokee, I will give the dogs credit for being smart enough to learn a trick. They did a great job of rolling over and playing dead!

By randy

December 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

leave ramble on alone, he takes it deep, nice!

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Barnyard you suck!

Ramble on, blow me and remember we won the last 7

Gardner, good riddence

Stanford and mareeno, pleeese come back next year!

Flarida, you are the luckiest buch of scuzbags in college football

GO SOONERS!!

UGA, NC IN 09!!!!

WOOOOOOOF WOOOOOF, AND HUNKER DOWN!!!!!

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

Dorsey Hill——There are three kinds of sports fans: spectators, rivals, and then are haters. You can decide into which category you fall.

If you’re seeking a rational perspective on the subject, you might review my comments to “hold em” regarding strength of schedule and the impact on your team’s ranking. One day, when UGA is finally positioned for a BCS title game, the fact that the Dawgs beat an 11-1 Gators team might be the difference in the Dawgs actually playing for the Big Enchilada.

Bottom line: If UGA beats twelve 0-12 teams and wins the conference title, what the hell does it mean?

By Ryan

December 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

If Ohio State would have played Boise State schedule they would most likely be undefeated or one loss, If Boise State would have played Ohio State schedule I can almost guarantee they would have at least 3 or more losses. Remember Ohio State only lost to the #1 and #2 team at the time they played them, not a loss to an un ranked team like half the teams in the top 10.

By SEC fanz R funny

December 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Sorry, of course I meant to say: INCEST is BEST

By Mike

December 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

If all of the apparantly un-informed sports writers and fans would simply read the contractural arrangements associated with the 5 BCS bowls (and the other bowls for that matter), us fans would not have to read stupid columns like this one. Ok everyone, please listen. Bowl games are not part of the regular college football season. They are designed for one reason only, and that is to make money for the respective bowl/city/area where they are held. Anyone who thinks differently doesn’t know very much about college football. Just keep your mouth shut and stay seated at the bar in your local Applebee’s and watch the games.

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

gators have hairy palms

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

My rebel flag just fell in the yard. I hope i dont trip over the spare tire flowerbed or the chained up rottweiler on my way out to the flag post!

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

That red clay dog trail around my yard looks good to! Let me get timbo off the tire swing so I can feed him his lunch of pnut butter and mayonaisse sandwiches!

By T Money

December 9, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Here’s my idea for a playoff, it’s a bit long so bear with me:

1) Each Conference Winner Makes the tournament, unless unranked in a “Poll of Polls”

2) Each unranked team is replaced with the highest rated team in the “Poll of Polls”

3) Remaining slots will be allocated by “Poll of Polls”, as will the seeding process

4) No At Large team may be ranked higher than the champion from their conference

5) No first round rematches from regular season, if there is such a match up, the team with the lower seed will be moved to the next matchup that would not produce a rematch

6) If 1 vs. 16 creates a rematch, the 16 seed will be moved up instead of being removed

7) The first two rounds will be hosted by the higher of the two seeds

8) The Semifinal and Championship games will be played at bowl locations (Rose, Sugar, and Orange)

Using this system we end up with the following matchups, if we consider the BCS as this year’s “Poll of Polls”

The conferences left out, due to their conference champions being unranked are Conference USA (East Carolina), MAC (Buffalo), and Sun Belt (Troy).

Any thoughts?

By the real OLD GOLD

December 9, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

4 team playoff is where it’s at. 2 extra games after all the bowls are over and the final numbers are out. 1 vs. 4 & 2 vs. 3 Then may the two best teams play the second week of January in the title game. If you want a true playoff, maybe some of you should start following GA Southern or Shorter College, but as for me, I like being able to watch my games on national tv.

By hold em

December 9, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator, are you using the BCS as an excuse for being a fan of every team in your conference? Then yes you do have a point, I can’t speak for you, but there are many SEC fans that take pride in cheering on their rivals. I have one jersey, it is a Vol jersey

By WE ARE USC

December 9, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Again I ask, 0 where are the facts to support your claims? You want to point to this season alone when it suits your purpose, than in the same post use history to prove something else.

There is no argument, this season the USC SOS is crappy, and it has cost the Trojans dearly. However when you consider the 6 years prior to this year, USC has an average SOS of #14. #1 in 2002 and a total of 4 times the SOS were #8 or better.

Over this past 7 year period, USC hasn’t lost a single game by more than 7 points. nobody has a better record than USC, nobody has more wins or less loses, nobody has a better average final ranking, nobody has more BCS bowls played in or won, nobody has a longer winning streak (34 Games, from 9/03 thru 1/05), nobody has more conference championships, or more championships for that matter (1 BCS and 1 AP) the record speaks for itself.

This year USC has the #1 passing defense, #1 scoring defense, and #1 total defense. They are ranked #5 in all the polls, and have won 11 games or more for the 7th straight year. After this season USC will be the only team to have finished the season ranked in the top 10 of the final standing for the past 7 years.

If you will go back and look at the record, in USC only loss, the “little” back you talked about on this blog that did so well against USC, is ranked # 9 in the country and leads the best RB in the SEC, and he’s a freshman.

These aren’t my opinions; they are facts, just look at the records.

Until an SEC team beats USC on the field, all you can do is speculate, USC in 4-0 against the SEC this century, for that matter the PAC 10 is 10-6, and 1-1 this year. This doesn’t prove anything, but is does stand in contrast to what is routinely posted on this blog.

WE ARE USC FIGHT ON .

By Dorsey Hill

December 9, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator,

I’m a hater.

My math skills tell me that if we beat 12, 0-12 teams then we are 12-0 and that your team really sucks. (BTW: you do know the Gators went 0-10-1 in 1979 don’t you? I call that the “good ole days.”)

Anyway, SOS is great when you “back into” the NC game as the Gators have done twice (1996 and 2006). However it seems that when we have 1 loss (2002 and 2005) the SOS does us no damn good and I’m guessing that the SOS likely cost us that 1 loss. We are probably 12-0 with a Pac-10 or Big Ten schedule. So while I can see why the Gators and LSU love the SOS of the SEC, UGA and Auburn are trying to figure out why 1 loss is never good enough and sometimes being undefeated isn’t enough either. The bottom line, is I’ll take my chances with an avg. conference and go undefeated because 12-1 or even 11-2 in the tough SEC is only good enough for the lizards and LSU.

BTW: can anyone imagine any other team other than UF losing at home to Ole Miss and still get in the title game? If Bama had lost to Ole Miss and beat UF, they’d still be in New Orleans playing Utah while Texas and OK played for the NC. I guarantee it. I can see Herbie and Corso and Fowler all saying that because Texas’ only loss was to a Top 10 team on the road that there is no way you can take Bama who lost to lowly Ole Miss. Doesn’t even come up when discussing whether UF deserves to be in does it? Different standards and different outcomes creates different perceptions and opions and so I hate UF and hope you get beaten badly.

By ttough44

December 9, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

The BCS is , in my opinion no good. I am a Dawg fan, so, this is not an aggravated Bama fan, (however) dont blame the Bama fans. Bama should be plaing #3 Texas! #1 should play #2, #3 plays #4 and so on. Last yr. Georgia playing Hawaii, a terrible miss match, really a joke…It is not my cup of tea (BCS), heck even newly elected president thinks its a joke.

By Huh?

December 9, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Tony says, “Blah, blah, blah, and blah. Blobbity blah blah blah. Blah is a business blah. TV ratings and blah blah blah. Blobbity blah and ticket revenue blahish blah. The BCS rules say blah and blah. That’s just the way it is folks.”

Thanks Tony but I remain unpersuaded. The D-1 college football postseason is an absolute embarassment to the sport and a total joke. Why do you insist on pretending otherwise?

By hold em

December 9, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Dorsey Hill has a point, i have been saying FL’s loss to Ole Miss should have had a bigger impact since the game. SEC fans are complaining about not being in certain bowl games when the Gators shouldn’t be in the NC. You all were given a shot at the National Title, you didn’t deserve it

By ttough44

December 9, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

One more thing….boycott the bowls till they change! HOw bout that?

By ugablows

December 9, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

45-42…everything else is ancient history

By SecIsFootball

December 9, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

WE ARE USC…..YOU GUYS PLAY IN THE PAC 10 WHICH IS A JOKE!!! Schedule some SEC teams and we will be happy to play you. Yes you played AU in 2003 but if you remember correctly, they ended up at like 8-4. Congrats on beating a medicre SEC team. If you guys played in a real conference and won out, you would be in the NC game. Since you play the little sisters of the poor week in and week out in your own conference, you dont get that chance. Plus, when you lose to a team like Oregon State, well….you know. USC doesnt deserve a shot at the NC and will not get one as long as they drop a game to an average team each year and until the Pac 10 actually becomes competitive!

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

“hold em”——I am not a “fan” of every team in the SEC, but I need no excuse to cheer for them. Most years (other than this one), the SEC plays the best college football in the land. I enjoy going to SEC games when the Gators aren’t playing, but then again I enjoy college football … I’ve been known to scalp tickets to see UGA-Tech, Auburn-UGA, and Bama-Tennessee. There’s nothing quite like SEC football, and, for the most part, I have always been treated with courtesy and respect wherever I went.

As for the impact of strength of schedule on BCS rankings, I was merely providing a rational basis for rethinking your “death to the infidels” perspective on college sports rivalries. There’s no game or sport that should drive you to be discourteous to your neighbors. It’s just a game, and sport is just entertainment. It isn’t a war between civilizations.

It’s a damn shame we don’t bring that kind of fearsome, take-no-prisoners rivalry approach to college academic standards. Then it might actually lead to something meaningful, and, perhaps, in a twisted way, something productive.

By ugablows

December 9, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

“By SCDAWG December 9, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

With a four team playoff UGA would have won the NC in 2002 and last year!”

Jesus! and yall keep calling Tech fans delusional?

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

ACC 6 SEC 4

By ugablows

December 9, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

By Dorsey Hill

December 9, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this Atlanta Gator,

My math skills tell me that if we beat 12, 0-12 teams then we are 12-0 and that your team really sucks. (BTW: you do know the Gators went 0-10-1 in 1979 don’t you? I call that the “good ole days.”)

yeah, and “the good ole days” are LONG gone. florida has owned your sorry butts and has succesfully sunk your boat and chances of a mnc every year in what will probably be the best era of UGAY football of this generation. You delusional uga people may not want to admit it yet but this year and last were your window of opportunity to get it done. Stafford, green, massaquoi and Moreno are a perfect storm of offensive players and richt couldn’t get it done with them. 2 years from now he’s out of the cesspool. his loyalty to willie plus florida and GT each getting 3iar will finally be enough to send him packing.

By Sam Houston

December 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Tony you are absolutely right it is all business, show me the money. With all the tie-ins we have no choice but to vote on a national champ instead of letting them settle it on the field. There has never been a true national champ. There have been a lot of national champs voted in. It is a shame when the largest college sport has never had a legitimate champion. In the meantime we will keep sending 6-6 teams to a bowl that is a third full, wow what a system.

By WE ARE USC

December 9, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

As I said where are the facts to support your argument?

USC schedule 4 games against the SEC and won all 4. As I CLEARLY stated this doesn’t prove anything, Try reading the post and try not to jump to assumptions; but while we’re on the subject, USC always schedules FBS (Div 1A) OOC opponents, they have NEVER played a Div 1AA team and they schedule teams from all over the country. Can you say the same about ANY SEC team?

USC’s AVERAGE SOS is #14 from 2002 thru 2007, #1 in 2002 and #8 or better 4 times. As my post CLEARLY states THIS year the SOS is crappy.

The UP has Ole Miss # 24 and Oregon State #25, AP has them #20, and #25, so by your own criteria Florida lost to a average team and should not be in the BCS CG?

Try to support your argument with something; it might help if you read the entire post and didn’t have a kneejerk reaction. This has been a terrible year for the PAC 10, but as I said you want to pick and choose when and what time frame to consider, and apply critical to one team and not another. That’s weak, and dishonest.

By swampjacket

December 9, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

RIVALRY? LAST 11 YEARS, UGA IS 2-9 AGAINST FLORIDA AND 7-4 AGAINST GT. SO TECH HAS BEATEN UGA TWICE AS MANY TIMES AS UGA HAS BEATEN UF. AND THINGS ARE ONLY GONNA GET WORSE. 45 POINTS? WE SHOULD’VE HUNG 60 ON THE MOST OVER-RATED TEAM IN AMERICA. UGA DIDN’T BEAT ONE RANKED, OPPONENT GT BEAT 3. AND YOU GOT BOMBED IN YOUR THREE LOSSES. YOU BETTER PRAY CPJ BOLTS, BUT HE’LL PROBABLY SHOW AT AUBURN SO YOUR NIGHTMARE WILL GET WORSE.

By jc_atl

December 9, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

The Rose Bowl is meaningless and will continue to be. USC is a perennial participant and winner of that game and as a result I never watch it. Tradition my *. No one cares. USC might be good enough to win it all with an 8 team playoff. I don’t even like them, I’m just saying that their incestuous relationship with the Rose Bowl (and the same can be said for the Sugar and Fiesta bowls) means that a large majority of the country finds the matchups not even worth tuning in for. Does anyone really believe that USC will not absolutely expose and crush Penn State in what is essentially a home game? Same can be said of Bama and Utah, Texas and Ohio State. 3 of the biggest bowls are huge snoozers that will be interesting for a quarter at best. Hell I may just boycott all the BCS games except for the MNC game with where Florida demonstrates yet again to the Big 12 that defense wins championships.

By Dorsey Hill

December 9, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Pretty defensive response regarding a winless season 29 years ago. Didn’t know you were so sensitive. Look on the bright side, you still lead the nation in the number of NCAA sanctions. Of course, Auburn is tied with you as historically the most crooked program on the planet so you have fine company.

You also lead the nation in mullets, jorts, fake blondes and tank tops. Congrats.

By BLAZER

December 9, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

years ago it would have been either

boise st vs utah or ala. vs. ball st.

these were you undefeated teams at end of

regular season.

now that’s a four team playoff-four undefeated teams

By bill

December 9, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

I live in Boise and watch boise state every game they play. It is a joke to compare them to the top college teams. Every thing about them smells of a mid major program. first of all they have a 30,000 person stadium that they can barely sell out. All i hear is that they beat OU in the fiesta bowl which shows they can hang with any body. No one brings up the fact that they are 1 and 3 in their last 4 bowl games. They lost to ECU, Boston college and Lousiville in there other 3. I dont think that constitutes being a powerhouse. They also have a schedule that ranks in the 100’s every year, but for some reason that overlooked. All I heard in the papers and On the radio is the Oregon win was the biggest road win in the school history. When that your biggest road win in school history, that alone says where your program is. To think they should have been selected to go to the fiesta over Ohio State is crazy. Ohio Stae will bring more fans, money, and as musch as people dont want to hear it they are a much better fooball team. They have bigger, faster, and better football players that will make the NFL. I know they have lost the last 2 NC games, but they are 4-2 in BCS games with a national championship. That sounds like a pretty good program. People need to get over the Ohio State cant win the big one comment. Oklahoma is 0-5 in BCS games and have lost to BSU and West Virginia in 2 of those games. The BSU Loss alone should get you put on probation. Saying that I believe Oklahoma belongs in the NC game and Ohio State belongs in the Fiesta Bowl. And the new “Power House” in college football is right where they belong in San Diego playing another media made powerhouse in TCU.

By maryland

December 9, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

well maryland did blow out cal.

By jc_atl

December 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Are THUGA fans still showing their faces here after what Tech did to them at home. What an embarrassment to the SEC! Hopefully Auburn will hire CPJ away - he seems like a guy that could do big things in the SEC.

My editorial comment: Mark Richt has taken THUGA as far as they can go. With weekly arrests of players and league-leading penalty yards each season, one has to wonder if he has a clue what he’s doing. It’s one thing to have one undisciplined season. When it happens year in and year out you either need to kick the criminals off the team, or the school needs to hire a coach who can bring some class back to the program. Richt’s gimmicks of stomping on the field and wearing unusual colors are tired and won’t make up for his lack of game-day preparation and play calling. I’ve never been so shocked at how badly Richt was exposed against Bama. Really a shame for the alleged “#1” team in the country.

By WE ARE USC

December 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Unlike the vast majority of SEC fans, I don’t have any desire to “defend” the PAC 10. I’m a USC fan, the rest of the conference are opponents.

I do admit the other teams in the conference effect the ranking of the Trojan’s.

USC will play any team, any time, any where. They have 1 loss to a OOC opponent since the 2002 season and that was a 3 point loss to Texas in the NC. Nobody has a better OOC record during the same period.

By PTC DAWG

December 9, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Re the UGA/GT/UF comparisons, last time I checked, it doesn’t matter.

I’ll say this about GT, they won this year….kudos to them. But counting the wins under O’leary when he had ineligible players all over the roster is just bush league. But I don’t expect much more out of the Techsters.

By Dorsey Hill

December 9, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

swampjacket,

I appreciate your observation that CPJ will leave Tech at the earliest possible opportunity. In that respect at least you know your place.

I would you remind you and the other pee colored insects that this is your high watermark for defense and we scored 42. Our defense on the other hand can only get better and you can’t count on 19 season ending injuries every year. So yes, you may win…occasionally. You always have won…occasionally. Enjoy them as they come as I know that the 2,922 days between wins over Georgia had to suck. I hope it was very painful for you. You know a Tech fan could have watched Tech beat Georgia in the 5th Grade and then been a HS grad when he saw it again? I mean think about that. No wonder Techies are so obsessive, insecure, geeky and generally annoying.

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Dorsey Hill——In addition to being a self-described “hater,” you also appear to be a bit of a conspiracy buff, too.

Of course there more’s to a team’s ranking than strength of schedule, including very subjective measures like margins of victory (when is it a big win vs. running up the score?). No doubt team tradition and history play a factor, too. Having out-sized player and coach personalities may also make a difference. But these subjective intangibles really only make a difference when all other things are equal, including the team’s win-loss record.

As I recall, Ohio State (13-0) and Miami (12-0) were undefeated conference champions when they were selected for the 2002-03 BCS title game. As you will recall, UGA won its first SEC championship game in 2002, but lost 13-20 in the final month of the regular season to a 9-3 Gators team. Given that OSU and UM were undefeated, it’s really tough to agree that UGA got screwed. It was tough break for the Dawgs and their fans, but they didn’t get screwed.

Strength of schedule only gets you into the Big Show when the other candidates have equivalent records from other BCS conferences. Nor did UGA get screwed in 2007——LSU was also a two-loss team, but LSU was also the SEC conference champion (see, e.g., Texas, 2008).

Strength of schedule and its impact on your team’s ranking may also have a big impact on your team’s bowl bid, especially if your team is not a conference champion subject to a contractual bowl tie-in. If your team is a conference runner-up, your team’s bowl bid is largely determined by your BCS ranking, which is partly dependent on your team’s strength of schedule.

So, Dorsey, you can be a hater if it makes you feel better, as long as you recognize, in most years, beating up on a gaggle of also-rans will probably land your favorite team in a lesser bowl. Ask USC how it feels to be left out of the title game at 11-1, or Boise State feels about being left out of the BCS all together at 12-0.

Yeah, strength of schedule doesn’t matter all, does it?

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

PTC DAWG in the name of Jan Kemp counting UGAG’s only National Championship with players that can’t spell UGA is “just bush leauge”

45-42

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator, Dorsey isn’t a “hater” he’s just a sore Loser!!!

…with a capital L

By Huh Maryland?

December 9, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Blowout? I didn’t see the game, but the score was 27-35. 8 points doen’t sound like a blowout.

By hold em

December 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

It SUX that we have to resort to coming with every excuse possible to support why a certain team should play in a bowl, but given how we can’t let the teams play it out on the field we aren’t left with much of a choice.

By Hire more black coaches

December 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Look guys, I am probably the biggest UGA fan in the world (my second cousin is the infamous Lindsay Scott!) I bleed red and black! But the fact of the matter is that Alabama and Florida fans can talk all the smack they want because they beat us. They not only beat us, they beat us down. UGA was just not “man enough” for these teams this year. As far as GT goes, they finally won a game this decade so they are a “giddy” bunch right now. Don’t let them “rile” you up. Some team is about to take their coach, and they will return to mediocrity as usual. Personally, I hope he stays, so he can be on the other end of the drilling they will get next yr!! If Stafford and/or Moreno returns, we will be in the hunt again next yr! How bout dem Dawgs!!

By Alabama Jack

December 9, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

This just in from Athens

Dawgs named pre-season SEC East Champs again. Dawgs named pre-season SEC Champs again. Dawgs named pre-season National Champions again.

Stay tuned for falling expectations, followed by pitiful excuses……

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Dorsey Hill epitomizes us!

Pass the mountain oysters!!! Cousin Jethro is comin over tonight for a good ole fashion hoe down!

Jasper Ga rules!!!!!

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Hire more black coaches, Your just in time, did Linsay ever learn to spell UGA?

By Hey holdem

December 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

How many ranked teams did USC beat this year? Florida beat the number 1 team in the country, as well as Ga, Miami, FSU, the real USC and next Oklahoma.

Who has USC beat?

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DOGGGIE!!! 2009 IS OUR YEAR, WE WILL LEAD THE NATION IN ARRESTS AND PENALTIES, BUT WHO CARES WE WILL WIN IT ALL WITH NOSHO AND FATT MATT BACK!!!

YEA!!!

By Dern Tootin'

December 9, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Man, dang ol Dawgs woulda won 31 National Championships if there was a dang ol playoff man.
We can beat anybody we dang well please.
holla

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

“hold em”——On that, we can agree. Some form of 4 or 8-team playoff needs to happen for the good of all. The rankings controversies will still occur, but at least we will be arguing about which teams are 7th, 8th and 9th, rather than which teams are 2nd and 3rd. If your team doesn’t make the cut-off between 8th and 9th, your team has probably already lost twice.

It’s a real crap shoot when you have three undefeated BCS conference champions, like we had in 2004 (USC, Oklahoma & Auburn), and one gets left out (Auburn). Unlike UGA in either 2002 or 2007, the 2004 Auburn Tigers got screwed out of an opportunity to play for the BCS title … because of strength of schedule!

By hold em

December 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Hey Holdem, I will address FL first, FL beat Bama, Bama hasn’t played anybody this year, and barley beat some bottom dwellers in the SEC. I could give a rats a** about USC or who they beat

By Reply Hey holdem

December 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

USC beat #5 Ohio State #20 Oregon and #21 Cal.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Hire more black coaches I should have said “you’re”. my bad.

45-42

By Typical bulldawg hater

December 9, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Hi, my real name is Ramble On! I actually do have a team I “claim” I root for, unlike most of the other bulldawg haters. However, I actually don’t. I choose the name Ramble On! so people think I’m a Tech fan. I also do this because Tech is a rival of Georgia. In reality, I’m not a Tech fan. I spend more time on the Georgia boards saying things about Georgia than I do on the Tech boards talking about Tech. Anytime you see me on other boards, I am making comments against Georgia - not comments in favor of Tech. In my mind, I would rather see Georgia lose than see Tech win when the two are not playing each other. Also my comments are usually very lame. I usually just mention the score of the game or a ridiculous prediction of a score or talking about streaks when teams still wore leather helmets. I’m obviously not smart enough to think anything more clever. I usually just ramble on and on about nothing, kinda like this post. Also my score predictions usually suggest i might not ever want to wager on sporting events. i would wager on sports, because I think I know a lot about them. However, I don’t have any money to do this because I don’t have a job and I live in my mother’s basement.

By hold em

December 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Look kids, any team can beat anybody on any given day. My point isn’t to take anything away from FL, they are perhaps the best team in the nation, that waits to be seen, but compared to other teams’ regular season, I see that FL has played only one good team that is BAMA, if they were to have played another good team that would have proved more. So everyone is saying how good FL is, but what have they done? Beating UGA, Miami, FL State, and USC doesn’t say much

By Dorsey Hill

December 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator,

I could go on a tirade about how the media conflate “who the best team” and “who is the most deserving team” as if they are the same thing. You also have voters in the polls trying to play Nostradamus instead of actually ranking teams based on how good they are. For example: does anyone think that there are only 5 teams better than Utah? They are ranked where they are not because they are the 6th best team, but because of some subjective decision about where they “deserve” to be ranked. Rather than continue that tirade though, I am not saying that we were screwed in any year except last year, and then it is just a matter of degree. Again it all depends on whether you are saying who is most deserving or who is the best right now. On the former, no we didn’t deserve to play in the game but as to the latter, yes I do believe we were one of the best two teams at the end of the year. It does seem that the standards shift at the whim of the media for no apparent reason other than some institutional bias. For example, an easy case can be made that Texas is more deserving than UF. However, if you say it, the retort is that UF is better. And they are right. But when we said, also rightly, that we were better than either Ohio State or LSU, then they said well maybe but your aren’t deserving. I mean WTF??? Let’s pick a standard and go with it. I say go with who is better because deserving is too subjective. Who would beat who heads up right now? In other words if you had to bet your house, whose your team? UF would beat Texas right now, but UGA would have beaten LSU and Ohio State last year as well.

My other point was simply that UF has on two of its four NC game appearances (not this one mind you) have sort of lucked into it whereas UGA and Auburn haven’t caught the same breaks at the end of the year when they’ve had big seasons and SEC Chamionships. So for my purposes a weaker conference lessens the possiblity that our destiny will be left to chance. All that being said, again I hope that you get drilled by OK.

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

45-42

45-42

45-42

45-42

HAHAHAHAHA

Now, go flip my burger and then mop the floor!

By Playoffs?

December 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

PANAMA CITY, Panama, Dec 08, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) — According to BetOnline.com — the No. 1 online Sportsbook in the world — Florida is the favorite to win the 2008-09 BCS National Championship, while USC (Rose), Alabama (Sugar), Texas (Fiesta) and Virginia Tech (Orange) are the early picks to win each of the four BCS bowls.

But with the college football masses, and the President Elect, clamoring for a NCAA pigskin postseason, the odds makers at BetOnline.com took it a step further in 2008.

Handicappers from the site put odds to a potential eight-team bracket following Sunday’s announcement of the final BCS rankings, pitting No. 1 Oklahoma against No. 8 Penn State, No. 2 Florida against No. 7 Texas Tech, No. 3 Texas against No. 6 Utah and No. 4 Alabama against No. 5 USC in a winner-take-all Elite Eight of college football’s finest.

March Madness, meet December Derby. Here’s a look at the odds for each matchup in a bracket loaded with intrigue:

2008-09 BCS EIGHT-TEAM PLAYOFF (favorites advance)

No. 1 Oklahoma (-9.5) No. 8 Penn State

_No. 1 Oklahoma _No. 5 USC (-2.5)

No. 4 Alabama
No. 5 USC (-7)

____No. 5 USC (-2) ____No. 2 Florida No. 5 USC

No. 3 Texas (-14) No. 6 Utah

_No. 3 Texas _No. 2 Florida (-4)

No. 2 Florida (-14.5) No. 7 Texas Tech

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Typical bulldawg hater…georgia boards???

hmmm, I thought this was Tony Barnhart’s board.

Thanks for the insight.

Have I mentioned that GT average 6.7 yards per play against UGAg?

By bama12titles

December 9, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Hey holdem,

We played everyone in the sec that was worth a hoot so quit whining about our schedule. It wasn’t our fault that Auburn and UT imploded or that Clemson, which came in ranked no. 9, turned out to be average at 7-5. BTW, a couple of our games like Ole Miss and Kentucky ended up close with them scoring consolation tds in garbage time but those games really weren’t that close at all. Only the LSU game was really close and of course the gator loss. No offense but its obvious that you’re talking about Bama games that you didn’t watch.

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Dorsey hill, you have no idea who UGA would have beat last year.

Stop crying and move on you delusional BArking Baby!!!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

By BR

December 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Sorry Ramble On, but it’s time to move on. I know you geeks live to beat UGA since you have NO other rivals in your pathetic conference, but a 3 point win over an average UGA team isn’t that much to brag about. I guess if I went to Tech though, the highlight of my life would be beating Georgia, FINALLY. Plus, wasn’t the title of this blog about the BCS?

By hold em

December 9, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Dorsey Hill, You can hope all you want, my question to you is, WILL OU beat FL?

By BR

December 9, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Exactly, it’s not a rivalry unless you get beat from time to time. That would mean far more than once every 7 years. NERDS. But, what else do they have to celebrate? They are Tech fans, after all!

By Mountain west owns pac10

December 9, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Hey USC RULES,

I just wanted to check and see what the count is in the last 2 years of the mountain west beatin gup on the pac10. I believe its either 5-0 or 6-0 this year and last year they were 4-1 or was it 5-1 against the pac10. pAC10 AINT CRAP

By B

December 9, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Based on Ramble On’s comments, Tech should be playing for the nat’l championship! And, before you run your mouth too much about next year, remember, you’ll also be returning the same pathetic DEFENSE that you had this year. Hard for a team to be on top without a defense—just ask UGA. That is why we can admit we were “decent” this year, and the Nerds act like they should be going to the Nat’l Championship game! Then again though, they don’t know how to react to a winning season. Georgia fans are used to it.

By jean paul sartres

December 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

DORSEY HILL, YEAH… YOU HAD NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THOSE FACTS DID YA, BIG MAN! NOT COUNT O’LEARY? THEN GIVE BACK THAT ONE, COUNT’EM ONE N.C. YOU WON WITH A BUNCH OF JETHROS THAT DIDN’T TAKE ANY CLASSES. TYPICAL UGA JERK..NO BRAIN..MEANS NO INTELLIGENT RESPONSE..MEANS NAME-CALLING….AND BY THE WAY, UGA WHATEVER NUMBER “SHE” IS LICKS A@# LIKE THE GEORGIA’S DEFENSE.

By hold em

December 9, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Bama12titles, sounds like you are the one wining, BAMA had one hell of a season, but when they were faced with their toughest oppenent of the season, i will ask you what happened?

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Playoffs? Who believes anything that comes out of Pannymaw City? We all go to Desin now!

By Atlanta Gator

December 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Dorsey Hill——Uh, oh. Now, you’ve done it. You’ve opened the box … “which team is better” vs. “which team is more deserving?” I’m not going there … there be dragons, my canine friend. Those are questions with political and social implications beyond the scope of our little sports blog, and I’m going to keep my political and social commentary to myself.

As for the Gators being in the right place, at the right time, in 1996 and 2006, to play for and win MNCs, I couldn’t agree more. You have to be a little bit lucky to win a MNC, but you also have to be pretty darn good, too. Florida was 11-1 and SEC champion in 1996, and all of the higher ranked teams either lost or were beat by the Gators. Florida was 12-1 and SEC champion in 2006, and their merits for playing in the BCS title game were judged relative to 12-0 Ohio State and 11-1 Michigan. In retrospect, I think you will agree that the Gators were a better pick than either the Buckeyes or the Wolverines. No doubt, however, that “luck” was a factor in both Gator championships. I can live with that.

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Hey Br, you are right!!!

WE BEAT FLORIDA 3 OUT OF THE LAST 19!!!!

NOW THAT’S A RIVALRY FOLKS!!!

HUNKERDOWN AND BARK!!!!

By BLack leaders?? haha

December 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Yes thats EXACTLY what the world needs…. more black incompetent leaders. Just look at all the great changes they made in Detriot, Clayton, Decatur…. etc…

In fact EVERY politician in the future should be black, so then we can have the competence of Africa, and be on the same level as Africa as a world power, while Russia and China laugh at us and pass us by.
All because “we proved our non racism by “voting fo da brother”

By Trojans where are you?

December 9, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Trojans,

In Jan 2003, we were waiting for you in the Sugar Bowl, but you talked The Orange Bowl into letting the Sugar Bowl have their ACC Ppick so you could avoid us

In Jan 2004, we were waiting for you in the national title game, but you never showed.

In Jan 2005, we tried to join you in the national title game, but you used politics to keep us out.

In Jan 2006, we tried to do the same, but you paid to get DJ Shockley injuried earlier in the seaon, so we couldn’t meet then either

In Jan of 2007, we were waiting for you in Tempe, but you never showed.

In Jan 2008, we were waiting for you in New Orleans, but you still never showed.

In Jan 2009, we will be waiting on you again, but instead you will be a no show.

What happened USC? Why the no shows? Are you scared that precious 4-0 record all against teams with 4 losses would turn to losing records if you actually faced our champion? Or are you worried that our champions would dispell the myth of USC greatness once and for all? Sounds like you are scared.

Sincerely,

The SEC

By SC Rules!!!

December 9, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

If you won’t play us DON’T say you can beat us!!!! Hiding behind your mommas skirt is embarrasing!! Man up or shut up!!! Quit singin’ it and start bringin’ it!!!! We are SC!!!!!!

Trojans Rule; y’all just drool!!!!

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

BR, I thought that BCS was the title but I got thrown off with all the Fleabags chimming in. OUCH!!!

Eight straight is the record since you want to live in the past!!!

good thing UF doesn’t hold the same standard as you do for a rivilary huh? BOO-YAH!!

By K-DAWG

December 9, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

This is suppose to be a blog about the BCS,and a damn TECHIE has to put his 2 cents in. Move on a#*wipe. One out of eight isn’t exactly much to brag on, stay on your own blog !

By bama12titles

December 9, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Holdem,

We obviously lost to the best opponent we played this season just like OU lost to the best opponent they played. It happens. You just make it sound like everyone in the conference sucks except maybe Bama and UF. uga was still good, Ole Miss became pretty good by seasons end, etc. Thats all

By Gator Bill

December 9, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

Dorsey:

Your so right about that winless season in 1979. After the gator’s won the SEC and NC in 2006, I sat with my head slumped down thinking about that 1979 season. Saturday, when the Gator’s won their second SEC championship in three years and earned the right to play in the NC game, I was really bummed because of that winless season 29 years ago. I should be excited about the big game coming up, but I just can’t stop thinking about that season 29 years ago.

Seriously, no one cares.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

DEAR DAWG FANS, THIS IS ABOUT THE BCS AND THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

YOU DON’T BELONG HERE, PLEASE LEAVE.

WHEN IT’S GYMNASTICS SEASON, YOU CAN COME BACK.

By Dorsey Hill

December 9, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator,

Never said you weren’t good or deserving, just luckier than we’ve been under similar circumstances. I’d take it too.

I do think that the “who’s better” vs. “who’s more deserving” debate needs some disinfecting light on it. Somebody needs to confront the ESPN talking heads, and others and make them take a position one way or the other and then hold them to it from year to year. I don’t think the subject is too difficult, its just because it is avoided that things vacillate from one to the other from year to year. The biggest problem is that the same people have different standards in different years. Why can’t Corso being “whose best” guy and Herbie a “whose most deserving” guy? Just doesn’t seem that hard. One thought isn’t superior to the other, but consistency is important. That way my head doesn’t explode when Herbie says that in 2006 that UM and OSU should rematch and then in 2007 say the UGA shouldn’t be considered because it failed to win its conference. I’m not saying one position is necessarily correct I’m just saying that they both can’t be true.

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Hey gator bill, we won the national championship 28 years ago. It’s okay to live in the past! Just ask us!

By Where was USC?

December 9, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Jan. 2004 the BCS robbed us so rather than whine like an SEC sissy (LSU) we took what was rightfully ours. Winning the AP and FWAA National Championships.

Jan. 2005 we humiliated Oklahoma hanging 50 on them and took the UNDISPUTED BCS NC.

Jan. 2006 on a 34 game winning streak, leading late in 4th quarter we came 3 points from a 3rd consecutive NC losing to Texas by 3 points.

talk is cheap whinner, beat us on the field than MAYBE you can talk.

We’re right here. BEST RECORD IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL SINCE 2002.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

typical bulldawg fan, I have a question, are ya’ll going to win the National Championship next year?

By Typical bulldawg hater

December 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

You notice that I responded to myself with Ramble On! screen name. I told you I’m not too bright. You will notice I made another comment against Georgia instead of just talking about Tech. I did try to tie in it with Tech, but I’m not smart enough to hide who my real favorite team is. That team would be whoever plays Georgia, not Georgia Tech. I’m also too dumb to realize that what I was saying earlier refered to behavior on a daily basis with Ramble On! screen name, not just today. I’m also too stupid that in my response to myself, I forgot that I made mention to the fact that I go to other boards, but I spend most of my time on the georgia boards, and wherever I’m at, I always talk about georgia, not the team my screen name implies I like. I should have re read my previous post, but I don’t read very well.

Also, do you guys like my the screen name I posed as being a bulldawg fan? Thinly veiled, I know. I know when I use that screen name, I don’t use anything original, but I think it’s funny. I’m too ignorant to think of anything original. Since I’m dumb, I believe these stereotypes to be true. But like I said, I live in my mother’s basement so i don’t get a chance to get out much. Therefore, I can only go by what hear from the other people who are ill informed aboiut the stereotypes. As you can tell, I have never actually met any Georgia fan. I just choose to read the parts fo what they say that support my idiotic thoughts.

By hold em

December 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Bama12titles, I apologize, i was trying to beat up on FL and threw Bama under the bus in the process. Like i said earlier, given the BCS we are forced to come up with the 2 best teams in the country, that is why my earlier comments on BAMA. Those comments were not meant to degrade BAMA they are a great team and could have just of good of a chance winning the national championship if we were in a play off system

By PAC 10 LOSER

December 9, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

If you were in a decent conference you would dominate college football, but you are not so could you please shut up!!!

By Trojans where are you?

December 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Again, we have been waiting on you every year since 2002. But as always, you either fail to show or find ome way to play someone else for the “title”. And if the title was rightfully yours, you would have shown up in Jan 2004 to prove it. Of course,as usual, you didn’t. because for you guys it is much better to have the perception you would have won instead of living with the reality you probably wouldn’t have.

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Oh, I have met and lived around MANY other Jawja fans. Every year it is the same thing: We are going to win it all!!!

Refs robbed us of victories, or injuries take your choice!!!

By October the excuses come out.

By December we can beat our chest and tell everyone how we were cheated by the BCS!

Keep living in Fantasy land! while you are at it, why don’t you just…

HUNKER DOWN AND BARK!!! WOOF WOOOF!!!

We are number one in arrests though! Keep up the good work Jawja!!!!!

Richt is the best coach we have ever had!!

Again, fantasy land!

By Phillip Collette

December 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

Why cant they have a playoff, they do it in every other sport, take all the first and second place teams in the different conference and play the bowl games with the playoffs with the final two teams playing for the national championship, then it would not be any doubt who the number one team is

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Have I mentioned GT has a running back name Roddy Jones that averaged over 16 yards a carry against UGAg? He was a freshman as well.

I’d be remised if I didn’t.

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

We have the best pro prospects in the country! That is saying somehting. Just wait till Matt Stanford is drafted #1 overall, that will show everyone how great Jawja is!!!

By D

December 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

just when i thought mark richt couldn’t get any dumber. his statement means that he’s not in favor of the bcs and not in favor of a playoff system either. what are you in favor of mark? your head being up your butt? you want an immediate rematch of two teams that just settle the issue on the field? and your not in agreement with who’s in the title game. what a dunce. the real injustice is that texas isn’t playing the #4, 5 or 6 in the country and that they are playing #10 ohio state. that’s just wrong. but replay a game that was just played? richt probably feels that way because he would like to replay a couple of other games too, like tech and bama, those were beat downs. mark go concentrate on something you’re smart enough to handle, like silly fashion shows(blackouts), on field stupidity (fairys in tight pants dancing on the field) and winning national championships before you win your conference, those things you can handle mark, good luck, pal.

By WE ARE USC

December 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Trojans where are you?:

Are we comparing USC against the entire SEC, or do you have 1 team. Doesn’t matter here’s where we were.

1/2/03 Orange Bowl against #3 Iowa Won 38-17

1/1/04 Rose Bowl against #4 Michigan Won 28-14 (AP NC)

1/4/05 Orange Bowl against #2 Oklahoma Won 55-19 (BCS AP NC)

1/4/06 Rose Bowl against #2 Texas Lost 41-38

1/1/07 Rose Bowl against #3 Michigan Won 32-18

1/1/08 Rose Bowl against #13 Illinois Won 49-17

1/1/09 We’ll be in the Rose Bowl against #8 Penn State with a chance to go 6-1 in BCS Bowls.

Where were you?

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Ramble ON!!! goes by one and only one name.

I guess there must be more than one person out there who thinks a typical UGA fan is an obnoxious, arrogantly ignorant patronizing fan.

If I’ve come off as one, mission accomplished!!. If not, than I wonder if Gardner Webb played UGA…oh never mind, I think momma’s getting supper ready.

By Chris in Bama

December 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

We are USC I have to pick a bone with you about 2 or 3 of your posts.

First off USC may play only 2-3 ranked teams in any given season. Go look it up it’s true. If USC was in a tougher conference like say SEC or Big 12 then their In conference games would be much tougher. I mean seriously think about it logically! The Pac 10 is SOOOOOO pitiful that USC would have to be undefeated by considerable margins to even be considered in the BCSCG (loss to Oregon St was the nail in said coffin).

The SEC for example doesn’t need to schedule what you would call tough OOC opponents! The SEC as a whole is much stronger than the Pac 10. USC could not survive any better than any other team in the SEC or Big12. You CANNOT play tough opponents week in and week out so your griping (you too SC Rules) is invalid.

By sonny boy

December 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

my Grandma will go first in the NFL draft before Stafford will. loyalty should only go so far. when it starts affecting your common sense you’ve become a moronic fool of a tool. you probably think that our whole U.S. Olympic Team should only be made up of UGA athletes just so’s we can win all the gold medals. another prediction, someone will pick up Moreno and then that potato chip will crumble in the NFL after only a brief career. if can be called a career because of it’s short length.

By typical bulldawg fan

December 9, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

sonnyboy, you must be a tech nerd or florda jort wearer or alabama redneck or something stoopid!

UGA Rules!!!

HUNKERDOWN!!!!!

By Chris in Bama

December 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

We are USC and SC Rules,

Quote:

“There is no argument, this season the USC SOS is crappy, and it has cost the Trojans dearly. However when you consider the 6 years prior to this year, USC has an average SOS of #14. #1 in 2002 and a total of 4 times the SOS were #8 or better.”

……BS! based on what HA HA…Irrelevant..

Quote:

“Over this past 7 year period, USC hasn’t lost a single game by more than 7 points. nobody has a better record than USC, nobody has more wins or less loses, nobody has a better average final ranking, nobody has more BCS bowls played in or won, nobody has a longer winning streak (34 Games, from 9/03 thru 1/05), nobody has more conference championships, or more championships for that matter (1 BCS and 1 AP) the record speaks for itself.”

ITS BECAUSE YOU PLAY A REALLY CRAPPY CONFERENCE, YOU ADMITTED IT!

“Quote:

“This year USC has the #1 passing defense, #1 scoring defense, and #1 total defense. They are ranked #5 in all the polls, and have won 11 games or more for the 7th straight year. After this season USC will be the only team to have finished the season ranked in the top 10 of the final standing for the past 7 years.”

AND AGAIN, CRAPPY CONFERENCE….MY LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL TEAM COULD PROBABLY DO AS GOOD….USC MUST SCHEDULE MUCH TOUGHER OOC GAMES TO MAKE UP FOR THEIR CRAPPY CONFERENCE GAMES….THE SEC HAS TO SCHEDULE PATSIES BECAUSE THE CONFERENCE SCHEDULE IS SOO TOUGH

Quote:

“These aren’t my opinions; they are facts, just look at the records.”

YEP YOUR RIGHT…..WANT RESPECT PLAY TOUGHER OPPONENTS AND STOP LOSING TO STANFORD AND OREGON STATE

Quote:

“Until an SEC team beats USC on the field, all you can do is speculate, USC in 4-0 against the SEC this century, for that matter the PAC 10 is 10-6, and 1-1 this year. This doesn’t prove anything, but is does stand in contrast to what”

** OOH MY GOD….REALLY? USC HAS BEATEN AUBURN TWICE AND ARKANSAS TWICE….WHO GIVES A RIP? GO LOOK AT BOTH TEAMS SEASONS THOSE YEARS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY WERE BARELY MIDDLE OF THE PAC SEC…..10-6 VS SEC…TAKE AWAY USC AND YOU GOT 6-6….TENNESSEE LOST TO UCLA OR CALIFORNIA FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS …… BOTTOM OF THE PACK SEC IN RECENT YEARS!!

PLEASE TELL ME THE LAST TIME A PAC 10 TEAM BEAT ANY ELITE SEC!!**

YOU MUST SCHEDULE BETTER GAMES!!!

By Chris in Bama

December 9, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Are we comparing USC against the entire SEC, or do you have 1 team. Doesn’t matter here’s where we were.

1/2/03 Orange Bowl against #3 Iowa Won 38-17 DANG IT PLAY SOMEONE WORTH A CRAP

1/1/04 Rose Bowl against #4 Michigan Won 28-14 (AP NC) MICHIGAN HAS SUCKED FOR THE PAST DECADE OTHER THAN MAYBE 1 SEASON…AP NC IS IRRELEVANT

1/4/05 Orange Bowl against #2 Oklahoma Won 55-19 (BCS AP NC) LOOKS LIKE USC NEEDS TO MEET THE SEC…AND AGAIN IRRELEVANT

1/4/06 Rose Bowl against #2 Texas Lost 41-38 AUBURN GOT SCREWED!!!….TEXAS WON!

1/1/07 Rose Bowl against #3 Michigan Won 32-18 GIVE ME A BREAK

1/1/08 Rose Bowl against #13 Illinois Won 49-17 JESUS

1/1/09 We’ll be in the Rose Bowl against #8 Penn State with a chance to go 6-1 in BCS Bowls.

LOOK AT YOUR OPPONENTS

SEC DOESNT PLAY IN ROSE BOWL (VERY RARE) THAT IS USUALLY BETWEEN PAC10 AND BIG 10…..WHEN IS THE LAST TIME A PAC10 TEAM OR TEAMS PLAYED IN A NC 3 YEARS IN A ROW?……YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS STUPID BECAUSE THE CONFERENCE IS SO WEAK…I WISH USC WAS IN THE SEC(THEY DESERVE TO BE IN A BETTER CONFERENCE)

By WE ARE USC

December 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Chris:

I appreciate your civil tone, thank you.

What griping? I posted stats, and facts. I answered and asked question. No griping. The main reason I bring OOC records into the discussion is because, like you have, people on this blog discount the PAC 10, even though I have posted the facts on USC’s average SOS. As I have stated, I don’t feel any need to defend the other conference teams, they are opponents. I do make comparisons, like Oregon State and Ole Miss, I think the record show’s they are comparable.

I usually read the blog and refrain from comment until somebody make a untrue statement or makes a claim without any facts to support it.

Please read back over my posts, I don’t think I have gripped, I could be wrong.

If you have followed my post I have often complemented Alabama and Florida. I would love to see a game between USC and either. Do I think USC would win? Yes. But only the game would answer that question.

I wish you all good luck in your games.

By Pitbull

December 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

The BCS really is a messy thing. I wish it would go away and teams could got to whatever bowl they chose to attend that invites them.

The 1A national championship is still mythical as the NCAA does not recognize it.

I like it better when several nc’s were awarded andn the fans could just argue about which team was better. The AP does no better job in picking a nc than anyone else.

By GoDawgs85

December 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

So many UGA haters on this blog. Don’t they have their own blogs? I love all the comments referencing some sort of country stupidity. So clever and original.

By Pitbull

December 9, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

PS, I would have like to see on consecutive nights at 8:00 (on CBS - not Fox):

Rose Bowl: USC V Penn State

Sugar Bowl: Florida V Oklahoma

Cotton Bowl: Alabama V Texas

Orange Bowl Utah V Ohio State

Fiesta Bowl: Texas Tech V Boise State

Those were the 10 best teams this year. Think of what the ratings would have been.

By Grantland Rice

December 9, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Mr. Barnhart:

I must say, the world of sports journalism has certainly become disrespectful to say the least. Sportsmanship & civil discussion has disappeared. What purpose does this blog fulfill other than providing an opportunity for people who do not know the difference between “your” and “you’re” to post hatred and profanity?

Sincerely, GR

By Typical bulldawg hater

December 9, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

When I say that I am around many Georgia fans, I really mean two. But I feel that two fans are all I really need to justify my position. I’m too dumb to realize that every fan base has just as many obnoxious fans. I just happen to be in a city that has a lot of Georgia fans, so I can’t see the other fan bases. And being in market where Georgia has the best support, I want to say that Georgia has the worst fans instead of admitting the real reason I hate Georgia is because they get more coverage here. It would defeat my purpose to think otherwise. I don’t really have a team I choose to pull for, of course, so I choose to hate on Georgia. This type of behavior actually makes me as obnoxiuous as I claim all Georgia fans to be. I’m too stupid to notice this.

Also, if you notice when I used the screen name Ramble On! Earlier, I tried to make it look like I am Tech fan, but couldn’t resist taking a swipe at Georgia. Bless my heart, I tried, but my true colors came out. Like I said, when Tech and Georgia are not playing each other, Georgia losing is much better than Tech winning. And once again, I only hate Georgia because of the coverage they get in Atlanta. Therefore, I am only going to listen to the Georgia fans that whine so I feel more validated in my opinion. That allows me to make blanket statements saying Georgia fans are the worst. Unfortunately, I am too dense to realize that my comments about Georgia make me look as dumb and obnoxious as I clim their fans to be.

By WE ARE USC

December 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

What? Because you say it it must be true. This is what I mean, no facts to support your argument.

You said:

1/2/03 Orange Bowl against #3 Iowa Won 38-17 DANG IT PLAY SOMEONE WORTH A CRAP RANKED #3 SOMEBODY THINKS THEY ARE WORTH A CRAP

1/1/04 Rose Bowl against #4 Michigan Won 28-14 (AP NC) MICHIGAN HAS SUCKED FOR THE PAST DECADE OTHER THAN MAYBE 1 SEASON…AP NC IS IRRELEVANT THAT YEAR THEY WERE RANKED #4

1/4/05 Orange Bowl against #2 Oklahoma Won 55-19 (BCS AP NC) LOOKS LIKE USC NEEDS TO MEET THE SEC…AND AGAIN IRRELEVANT SO UNDEFEATED UNDISPUTED BCS TITLES ARE IRRELEVANT?

1/4/06 Rose Bowl against #2 Texas Lost 41-38 AUBURN GOT SCREWED!!!….TEXAS WON! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AUBURN WENT 8-5. YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT THE 2004 SEASON. TEXAS AND USC WERE BOTH UNDEFEATED IN 2005 AND USC HAD WON 34 IN A ROW THIS SEASON

1/1/07 Rose Bowl against #3 Michigan Won 32-18 GIVE ME A BREAK RANKED #3 SEEMS SOMEBODY THOUGHT THEY WERE PLAYING OK

1/1/08 Rose Bowl against #13 Illinois Won 49-17 JESUS

1/1/09 We’ll be in the Rose Bowl against #8 Penn State with a chance to go 6-1 in BCS Bowls.

The only comment you made in this, although you had the year wrong, is Auburn got screwed. I agree, Auburn and USC should have played the 2005 BCS NC Game (2004 regular season). USC hung 55 on Oklahoma, I am sure Auburn would have been a much better opponent.

By Typical bulldawg hater

December 9, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

2002 - Waiting in Sugar bowl for you to show up, only to watch you bribe the Orange Bowl to give up their SEC tie on so you didn’t have to play us.

2003 - In the National title game, waiting for you to show up but didn’t. This will become a trend.

2004 - In the Sugar bowl only because of USC lobbying to keep us out of the title game so they wouldn’t have to face our champion.

2005 - In the Sugar bowl once again only because USC paid to have the qb of our champion injued earlier effectively ensuring we couldn’t play in the title game that year because USC didn’t want any that year either.

2006 - Same as 2003

2007 - same as 2003 and 2006

2008 - same as 2003, 2006, and 2007.

As you can see every year, we have been trying to play you guys in a huge bowl, only to have you find a way to chicken out. Therefore, the Trojan myth stays in tact.

Sincerely,

The SEC

By Typical bulldawg hater

December 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Of course we don’t have our own blogs. We don’t have a team we root for. Our favorite team is whoever is playing Georgia. Didn’t you know that?

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Have I mentioned GT has won 4 National Championships and UGAg 1?

If you call winning with players in developmental studies.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

I thought this was Tony Barnhardt’s blog about the BCS.

According to the BCS GT is ranked higher than UGA, has anyone noticed that?

By c robinson

December 9, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

No 3 vs No 4, don’t think that would include UAT. In reality they are probably no better than no 5 or 6.

By Typical bulldawg hater

December 9, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

There I go again. I can’t stop talking about Georgia with the ramble On! screen name. I try and try, but my real allegiance just shows through. I prove time and time again that my hate for Georgia is greater than my love Tech.

By Sautee Dawg

December 9, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

I Think BCS has left out some good 1 loss teams, Alabama gets penalized for playing in a championship game while other conferences are scared to have one for fear of having a loss added to their record. BCS job is to match no 1 against no 2 but still human voting decides who that no 1 and no 2 is going to be. No different that UPI and AP polls were in the past.

Wish somebody would also wake up and wait until the bowls are over with before they give out that Heisman trophy. Somebody that actually deserves it might win it for a change.

By LawDawg

December 9, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

My goodness Ramble On: your pen name suits you well! You have been on this blog now for 14 straight hours. Isn’t Star Trek on or something? BTW isn’t you nerds who are on probation now for playing ineligible players? Wasn’t a convicted felon (Houston) allowed to play at Tech? Hasn’t UGA dominated the series with Tech, including 7 out of 8 (51-7!) and 29 out of 40? Your socially inept self is perfectly exemplified by your internet behavior. Your Momma must be proud! Get your little fleeting kicks now because we are gonna beat that a@@ next year - book it, and I don’t mean check out a book at your gay bookstore!

By shane#1

December 9, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

SCRules, for your consideration. No less a West Coast guy than Collin Cowherd said that USC is handicapped by being in a weak conference. UGA’s beatdown of AZ St, the Pac 10 losses to non BCS schools and the Penn State blow out of Oregon State hurt USC this year. Even though the Trojans are stacked with more athletes than any school in the country and finished 11-1 they are out of the NC picture. Beating Washington, Washington ST, Az St, Az, Stanford and the like will not get it done. You USC fans of all people should be screaming for a playoff. Think about it partner, in a playoff system USC would have been in the NC picture for last year and this year. That’s two possible NC victorys that the BCS has cost USC. Remember how the press salivated over a UGA-USC Rose Bowl last year? UGA got the hapless Warriors, and USC got Zooked to sleep! Ho-hum. What if Oregon St had beaten Oregon, then there would be a rematch with Penn State in the Rose Bowl. Is that what You want partner, another 70 point beatdown? Get on board with Coach Carroll and bang the drum for a playoff. As it is the great Rose Bowl is becoming an afterthought, along with the Sugar and Orange. The greed of the “Big Six” Conferences and the Bowls is already leading to a playoff, because TV Execs will get tired of paying for boring blowouts that hurt ratings and ad rvenue. I think Tony is right, it will be ESPN’s checkbook that will create a playoff system.

By Tokyo jacket

December 9, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Sautee, don’t knock the PAC-10 for not having a championship game. They play nine conference games just like the ACC, SEC, and BIG12 champs/runners up. Except everyone does. That’s room for one less Jacksonville St or Lower Southwestern Arkansas Agricultural and Technical Institute. But, feel free to make fun of them for having a week conference.

Also, to answer the stupid question at the top: a 9-4 VT team gets to go because the ACC has 10 teams in bowl games this year, and just missed an 11th. NO conference has EVER done that before, not the mighty SEC or the historic Big 12. Their 9-4 record is every bit as good as OSU’s 10-2. Look at wins over bowl teams! The worst team in the ACC, Duke, wasn’t eliminated from a bowl until week 14. Pretty sure Michigan was mathematically ineligible at week 9.

By North Avenue

December 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

Georgia Tech will finish 10-3 as the highest ranked ACC team.-Boston College and Virgina Tech will finish 9-5.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

LawDawg you bring up a good pt. about probation.

GT beat the fleabags with 65 scholarship players. I’m pretty sure, +/-. Thanks for pointing that out. 16 of those playing were freshman and Sophomores…and you’re going to beat our a$$ without Matt the Spoon, Noshow, and Mo Mass.

BHAWHAAHAAHAHAA!!!!!

Beam me up Scotty

By next year...uGA theme

December 9, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

dorcie hillbilly, kdog and lawdog and buLLdog all seem like the same one…what is the significance of last year(s) to the 3rd quarter of this year? You dogs got stung!

but, dogs win preseason in 09….again. They dodo every year.

By SC Rules!!!

December 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

Typical bulldawg hater;

“We keep dodging you”?? Huh????? Since when have we dodged anyone????? Never! Y’all need a reality check son.

shane#1;

I hear ya! Coach and several of us have the big hammer out “again” to try and get the BCS’s attention and let us win it on the field. The problem with that is, it takes all the control away from some little pencil necked troll who couldn’t make the tiddly winks team in grade school and now is trying to prove he has a hair to p*ss out of with his “behind closed doors” power trip oversight of our great game even though he never even played the damned game to begin with. Sorry pard, I am beyond out of my tree on this one. Coach is gonna have to make a mighty long call tonight to calm me down. Later.

By Tokyo jacket

December 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

To Next year: I’m from 30 minutes away from where they filmed “Deliverance” and I didn’t understand what you just said!

By Mike T.

December 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this

hey nerds, Remember the 98 99 2000 GT wins were vacated.

By dandydawg

December 9, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator,

I am a big time Dawg fan, but man you are making a lot of sense on your blogs. Why in the hell are you not writing these things. Keep up the good work and good logic!

Lastly… Go Gators! Keep the NC in the SEC for the third year ina row!

By War Eagle

December 9, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

Tony, Tony, the BCS is about $$$$, They really wanted Texas and Bama in Miami,but had to choose the less dollar route, ITS A JOKE, Bama and Obama are media DARLINGS..Why,? because of Saban juicy 4M a year……well a surprise in 2009, if Weis does mot win big at Notre Dame, Saban 6M for 10 years and it going, going and GONE

By macrotech

December 10, 2008 1:54 AM | Link to this

Herschel Talker and Okefenokee Dawgs, why don’t you two get your two single wides and stack them on top of each other? THEN! You guys can brag about being the ONLY couple in the trailer park with a two story home! THIS may be the ONLY bragging rights you little fellas are going to have for a while! 45-42 is weak? How about 1-0?! That’s the CURRENT streak! Not counting the streak in your underwear after the third quarter! TECH won and uga lost! GO TECH!!!

By Go Vols

December 10, 2008 6:58 AM | Link to this

Has anyone ever read an article by Mr. College Football and thought, “wow, that’s interesting. I didn’t know that”?? Is there even a semi-serious fan of the college game who didn’t know this about why some teams are in and other teams are not in certain bowl games already?

By GTMike

December 10, 2008 7:07 AM | Link to this

MikeT…actually, iirc, the 98 99 00 wins by the nerds were NOT vacated on appeal to the NCAA. The violations were minimal and adminstrative (unlike most SEC schools) and after further review, the appeals baord of the NCAA agreed that the wins did NOT have to be reversed.

By beachdawg

December 10, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Dan Wetzel had a column on Yahoo! Sports and he makes a strong case for the NC2A to tell the bowls to shove it.

He proposes a 16 team playoff with all confernce champs (11) and ten at-large teams.

Play the games at the higher seeded team’s home stadium.

Google Dan Wetzel and playoff.

beachdawg

By beachdawg

December 10, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Oops, 11 champs and 5 at large teams.

By Denver dog

December 10, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

It is so simple. Just play it off on the field. Take the voters out of it. Get a computer and analyze each team and they strenth of schedule (record against others vs the other records) The catch, do it at the end of the year. Take the top 14 team from real conferences. Pick your top 2 from the Boises and Utah type teams, and have and have a tournament. Your first 8 games in lesser bowl towns. The next 4 in the next series of bowl towns. The next 2 in next series of bowl towns, and the championship in the best bowl town. It is not that hard to figure out, someone just has to put the proposal forward and go for it.

Just remember when that happens, we lose all the fun of could of, would of, should of. I’m sure that we can get an MIT, or Cal Poly engineer to design the program, since they would not have much of a vested interest. Why argue? It is too simple.