Mr. College Football

By Eric1

December 8, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Thank you Florida for taking satan down a notch. Go Sooners! Turner Gill might be a good choice for Auburn, but what if he has a falling out with Jesus. Our goose would be cooked again. War Eagle…I hope.

By hold em

December 8, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

If OU wins the nc they should share it with TX? It was a 3 way tie in the Big 12 South, you must have forgotten about Texas Tech

By CrimsonRedScarlett

December 8, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Regardless of whar Auburn does, Gill will probably get a call from Lincoln in a few years. Bsck in August, did anyone think tat Alabama would have nore than 9 or 10 wins? In order to get things right, Auburn needs to cut ties with Lowder. His damage to the school extends far beyond the football program.

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Eric1——Regarding “satan,” I thought Nick Saban was a great coach when he was coaching LSU, and he has demonstrated that that he is still a great coach by what he has done at Alabama in only two seasons. I’m not sihing on either Bama or Auburn when I say that Auburn has a big problem now. Auburn was able to take advantage of a SEC West power vacuum for the past nine seasons while the Tide was struggling. And even during those good years for the Tigers, Tuberville et al recruited many good players from Georgia and South Florida. Times have now changed. Saban is going to dominate in-state recruiting for the foreseeable future, and reach out into the adjoining states (and nationally) to cherry-pick a few.

Tough times ahead for AU.

I enjoyed the Saturday night SEC win as much as the next Gator, but I won’t dish on “Satan” or his program.

By JP

December 8, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Gator fan here. Ecstatic about the win Saturday. Wow, Bama is a really strong team. The game could have gone either way - one or two plays here and there. I think we’ll have the best defense OK has seen all year, BUT, OK will have the best offense we will have faced. Plus, I put Stops up there with the best of them when it comes to coaching. Should be a great game either way.

By Carolina Jacket

December 8, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

Some time ago I suggested a double header ACC/SEC championship games. I think that would be great for football fans as well as the city of Atlanta. Never been done, but quite unique — certainly better than what the ACC has done lately.

By Gator Nation

December 8, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

1) There is no edge for my gators here. We won’t be able to tell whether the offenses of the Big 12 are just that good or the defenses are just that bad until the bowl games.

2) How could a voter turn in their ballot weeks ago? They shouldn’t be voting if they do this.

3) My vote is no on this. Texas didn’t play in the Big 12 championship game. Texas’ bowl opponent is not the same calibur of Oklahomas.

4) The ACC championship should move to Atlanta and take place the Friday night before the SEC championship game.

5)If Turner Gill is smart he would turn down the Auburn job if offered to him. Auburn is a great job, but it comes with more baggare and caveats the any other job in the SEC. Turner Gill is ready for a higher level of coaching then the MAC. Syracuse looks like a great fit. I would have hired him at Kansas State.

By IM4BAMA

December 8, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Florida will beat OU. It will be a good game but Big-12 offense will meet up with SEC defense, and that means the buck stops here.

Tebow gets my vote, just based on leadership quality alone. I would like to remind Heisman voters that the award goes to the best player in college football. It is an individual award and not the teams record or could that player get the big win, that requires the whole team. The Heisman is a joke because of the media.

By Miles

December 8, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

The point about Florida’s defense is right on the mark! Oklahoma will not win this game.

By hold em

December 8, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

We all have wanted to see a good match up with the Big 12 and the SEC, there couldn’t be a better match up, AGREE?

By IM4BAMA

December 8, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

I’m all for giving the Longhorns a share if they win and OU wins. We all know they got hosed in the Big-12. Let’s give them a concellation prize. Then again, Auburn got hosed too and nobody made anything up to them.

Speaking of Auburn, I think it’s a shame that Auburn is caving and giving Turner Gill and interview just to appease the media like Lee Corso and others that think they have to at least interview a black coach. If Turner Gill were white, he would not be getting an interview with Auburn. I mean c’mon, turn around Buffulo, who cares? Does that mean you can coach on a big time level? NO, of course not. I’m not predjudice, I think Charlie Strong at UF is a very good candidate. I just see Auburn’s move for what it is; a anti-bad PR move.

By reservoirDAWG

December 8, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

I enjoyed watching the SECCG, it was a good one. The lack of attendance at the ACCCG was purely pathetic.

By Chris

December 8, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

The ACC game should be at the home stadium of one of the participants. You could alternate between coastal and atlantic each year to decide which team will host. It would always be a sellout. You could still sell tickets 50/50 to each fan base. If the visiting fan base failed to fill their allotment, the extras could be sold to the home crowd. Even if Duke were in the game it would be a sellout. Having the championship in North Carolina is so DRAB. This game will never project excitement unless it’s at someones home stadium. IT’S SUCH A NO BRAINER. Stop trying to mimic the SEC and be original.

By Roll Tide!

December 8, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Congrats Gators, Florida played like a champion in the 4th qtr & Tebow has to be the best college QB I’ve ever seen.

Chin up Tide fans, only 9 seniors! It’s great to be a Bama fan!

By Will

December 8, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Big Tone,

I would like to see you do a blog on how the 08’ dogs have been an excact duplicate of the 07’ Gators. Highly ranked to start the season until horrible defense derailed the team. Ultimately, both teams landed in Orlando and I think UGA will lose as did UF to Michigan. Now my only hope is we turn our Defense around next year and keep most of our playmakers on offense and end up in the national title game. It can happen.

By Jim

December 8, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Gator Fans-

Great game and I hope you win the BCS Championship. It was a great atmosphere Saturday at the dome.

Roll Tide

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Comments in response to Tony——

(1) My initial response to the Oklahoma-Florida BCS match-up is the same as Tony’s: I think Florida can easily hang with Oklahoma on the offensive side of the ball, and the Gators have a demonstrably better defensive unit than the Sooners. I must admit, however, that I have only watched parts of two or three Sooners games this season, so I will be spending a little time checking out their box scores and examining the defenses they have played in 2008 (especially Texas’ defensive stats). I am sure we will hear a lot about both the Sooners and their regular season opponents over the next 31 days.

(2) Tough call. If the award were given to the college football player based on MVP criteria or demonstrated leadership skills, Tim Tebow would be the runaway repeat winner, but it’s not——it’s given to the best college football player in a given season. There used to be an unwritten subtext that the voters also considered a candidate’s career (one of the reasons that underclassmen need not apply); that’s clearly gone by the way. This season, I think it’s almost impossible to ignore the flashy passing and efficiency stats of Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford. I fully expect, however, that Tebow will also be one of the three ‘08 finalists. I hope Tebow returns for his senior year … then he can compete for another “first”——winning two Heismans in non-consecutive years.

(3) I sympathize with Texas and Longhorn fans. They got screwed by the Big XII 3-way tie-breaker. If the Big XII had the same tie-breaker as the SEC, Florida would be playing Texas in Dolphin Stadium, not Oklahoma. In any event, the Longhorns’ beef (if you’ll pardon the inadvertent pun), is with Oklahoma and the Big XII’s rules, not with the Gators. Florida got their BCS title bid the old-fashioned way: they earned it. Any doubts about the Gators or their toughness about the Gators evaporated in the SEC championship game.

(4) Until Miami and Florida State return to full strength and play for the ACC title on a regular basis again, Tony is right: Florida does not make sense as the location for the ACC championship game. Atlanta, Charlotte and Washington, DC are all far more centrally located for ACC fans than anywhere in the Sunshine State. Atlanta has been perfect venue for the SEC championship, and it is within a short flight or one day’s driving distance for all SEC fans. Atlanta also has high numbers of local alumni of most SEC schools, so it feels like home away from home for many SEC fans. Especially us Gators. smile

In fairness to the Jacksonville and Tampa sites chosen, it bears mentioning that the ACC championship has not really featured two traditional powers with big fan bases most years (e.g., Florida State, Miami, Virginia Tech). I predict that will change over the next two ACC seasons, as the Hurricanes and Seminoles regain strength. Then, ironically, we may see Florida-based ACC fans traveling to Georgia or North Carolina.

There are two other problems that no one in the ACC really wants to talk about. First, the average size of the ACC student populations and alumni bases are smaller than those of the SEC schools. And, second, ACC basketball has traditionally been the conference’s marquee sport, not football. It remains to be seen if the presence of Boston College, Florida State, Miami and Virginia Tech will help overcome the historical basketball bias over time.

(5) Auburn desperately needs a big name head coach, preferably a proven head coach or star offensive coordinator, to add credibility in recruiting and to give the program, players and fans a psychological boost. In light of this year’s faltering AU campaign and the clearly revitalized program in Tuscaloosa, there have to be a lot of demoralized Tiger fans on the Plains.

Special Note to Alabama Fans: Your kids played one heck of a game in the SEC championship. The Tide was a play or two away from winning that game. I have watched every SEC championship game since 1992, and this was easily among the three best ever played (1992 and 1994 spring to mind, too). The 31-20 final score does not represent the see-saw character of the game or the closeness of the coaching and talent.

I am confident that these Gator and Crimson Tide teams will be seeing more of each other over the next several seasons. In the mean time, good luck against Utah in New Orleans, and Roll, Tide, Roll!

By Gator Fan

December 8, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

WILL, I have made the comparison that you mention several times this year to Dawg friends. The problem is you are going to lose your offensive playmakers which will make it difficult. Your offense gets weaker as other opponents such as FL and BAMA will be at least as strong. Its too bad Moreno and Stafford aren’t projected to stay for a final year. With them, it could be just as you suggest - a competitive team that lives up to the hype.

By SecIsFootball

December 8, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Eric1….I bet you were one of the Aub fans who were out rolling Toomer’s Corner when BAMA lost on Sat. AU is on a serious downhill slide and BAMA is just getting started. As Herbstreit said, this will be Saban’s least talented team so thinks definitely look bright for BAMA football. As for Saban being brough back down, all this will do is increase his motivation to go out and recruit great players while AU struggles to find a coach dumb enough to work for Bobby Lowder!

By mparker

December 8, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Stop Belly aiking and crying it is what it is face it if mac was in stoops shoes he would,nt saying anything,he and texas longhorn lovers would be loving every minute of it” texas tec was,nt crying and they beat texas,so it is what it is so get over it and enjoy the rest of the season.

By IM4BAMA

December 8, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Thanks Atlanta Gator. I appreciate you seeing it clearly and winning with class. I think it would be safe to say that Bama nation is behind the Gators, and want you to win it all for rest of the SEC and set those Big-12 guys straight.

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Will——That a very apt comparison: the ‘07 Gators vs. the ‘08 Dawgs. Both came off big seasons and unexpected success, and experienced disappointment. The biggest differences I can see are … First, the Gators won it all the previous season, the Dawgs did not. Second, the Gators (and most of the their fans) did not expect to win the big enchilda, and very few knowledgeable media commentators were hyping the ‘07 Gators. Third, the ‘07 Gators defense was talented, but ridiculously young (one junior starter, the rest freshmen and sophomores), whereas the ‘08 Dawgs defense was talented, but underperformed. Fourth, and probably the key difference: coaching. Charlie Strong is a great defensive coordinator, with great assistants. [You can insert your own comment here about the Dawgs’ defensive coaching.]

It’s an interesting comparison, but not a perfect one.

By jabster

December 8, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

I say talk to Tampa about moving the ACCCG to Charlotte a year early, or let Tampa get one last try in ‘10 after going to Charlotte in ‘09. While being a local Tech fan I would love to have it in the Dome, I would rather have it on real grass, and the logistical issues surrounding coordinating with the SECCG will likely be insurmountable…unless you have the aforementioned double-header with a 1 PM kick for the ACC and a 8 PM kick for the SEC.

Weather schmeather. It’s football.

Don’t try and get cute and move the ACCCG to Friday. And while I would love to finally get COFH off of Thanksgiving weekend by moving the ACCCG to that weekend, the rest of the conference will have scheduling issues too.

Nobody can book a cheap flight with a 7 day notice, so a central location is paramount. Everyone in the ACC can drive to Charlotte in an evening or morning except for the Florida schools and BC. CLT is also a hub for USScair, so flying into CLT would be easier than Tampa or Jax.

By Otto

December 8, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Auburn needs to find a coach that has recruited the southeast and knows offense. Lowder wants a big name in name in. They should look to what UGA did and take a chance on an OC. Patrick Nix would be a great fit at Auburn.

By Jeanelle

December 8, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

What is wrong with you people it is not the NFL!! Oklahoma has come a long way!! I am glad I am from the sooner state and glad OKLAHOMA has made a name for itself!! OU#1

By Dawggone-it

December 8, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

Bradford and McCoy have the stats but Tebow is the best football player anywhere on earth- PERIOD. This pains me to say with me being a Dawg!

By Hee hee

December 8, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator:

“and very few knowledgeable media commentators were hyping the ‘07 Gators.”

The AJC (specifically Jeff Schultz) certainly was. Then again, this hardly disproves your point.

Kidding aside, c’mon. Most prognosticators had Florida in the top 10, a bunch had them in the top 5. None of them would have expected a 4-loss season with a bowl humiliation.

By 2008Champs

December 8, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Hey Atlanta Gator. I’m sick and tired of this lame comment, “Auburn was able to take advantage of a SEC West power vacuum for the past nine seasons while the Tide was struggling.” Bul-logna!

Auburn went 16-1 in SEC play over 2004-05! Alabama had NOTHING to do with that accomplishment. Auburn beat your beloved Gators and the URBAN Crier TWICE the last two meetings. Bama had nothing to do with that either. Auburn has beaten UT 4 consectutive times. Each year they played in the title game.

Alabama has a good (Great) team this season, but the SEC is also having a down year. Your reasoning, Alabama had everything to do with that also!

The SEC just got stronger with the additon of Saban no doubt, but please, quit blowing smoke up our backsides with the SEC becoming a two team league. It’s not going to happen. You greatly under estimate Auburn! I promise you, Auburn will be competiting with the best of SEC year in and year out!

Turner Gil might be a good addition, but Tony Barnhart is making a LAME attempt at painting Auburn into a corner over Turner’s race. If Auburn unsuccessfully misses out on their first few choices as HC, I am sure an offer will be made to TG. I would take him in a New York minute.

Oklahoma will beat the Gators 38-21. UO has too much power and speed! IMO Alabama would have had a better chance with their Power verses UF’s speed.

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Chris——Your ACC championship game concept, alternating home games between the two ACC divisions with equal seating for both participants, is probably the best solution I have heard so far. Kudos, sir.

Chris for ACC commissioner!

By Got 12?

December 8, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Great game on Saturday afternoon! Tebow made some timely, big plays. I don’t like it but I have to respect it.

UF should beat Ok 48 - 28 (or something like that).

Charlotte is a more centralized location but it will be cold. I used to go to the Tire Bowl all the time. It was not fun.

For the next few years, due to self-inflicted harm, Aub and Tn are bye weeks.

By m

December 8, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

The BCS sucks. There is no way that the final two teams would be Floriduh and Olkahomo if there was a 16 team playoff. Tony, you have proven all year that you don’t have the slightest clue about the ACC…so don’t be offended if your advice is not heeded. Of course the ACC defeated the SEC 6 games to 4 this year but you have failed to report that so far. And, as always, Thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone forever.

By Gen Neyland

December 8, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

IF Santa would have brought an offense to Tennessee last Christmas to go along with the defense…But hey, we got a gag gift in Clawson…Wasn’t funny.

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Hee hee——Yes, I thought I made that clear. I said “knowledgeable football commentators.” LOL

Yes, Florida was ranked in the preseason top-10 in 2007, but was clearly overrated. Personally, I fully expected the ‘07 Gators to lose a couple of games, but I hoped they could repeat as division and maybe as conference champions. The regular season games they lost were mostly close and all competitive (AU, LSU, UGA). Th bowl loss was easily explained by a disappointed Gators team and a Michigan squad playing light-out for their departing coach, Lloyd Carr.

By way of further explanation, the 2007 post-championship losses to graduation and early NFL draft departures were insurmountable. When you lose seniors and juniors like Chris Leak and Andre Caldwell on offense, and Jarvis Moss and Derrick Harvey on defense, and replace them with freshmen and sophomores, fans (and Jeff Schultz) need to be realistic in their expectations. You may remember Jarvis and Derrick … a certain Heisman-winning QB from Ohio State still has nightmares about those two. LOL

The big lesson in this for Dawg fans——your coaches need to shake off the disappointment of the 2008 regular season and get ready to play Michigan State. Your 2009 regular season starts in Orlando on January 1st.

By Kevin

December 8, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Funny, I don’t remember you lobbying for an undefeated Auburn to get a #1 AP vote, even after another overhyped Chokelahoma team had it handed to them in the MNC game.

By bama12titles

December 8, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Eric1,

I’ve no problem with you saying thanks to the Gators since you’re an Auburn fan. That’s understandable.But then you turn around and say “go Sooners” in the very next sentence. Have some freaking class and pull for the SEC team in the national title game.

I thought Colt McCoy should probably win the Heisman but after watching Tebow Saturday I would have to go with him if I had a vote. It was uncanny how many 3rd and 5-8 yards we forced the UF offense and Tebow just kept pulling 3rd down conversions out of his arse on all of Florida’s scoring drives. Whether it was passing or taking off on a scramble and getting first downs he just kept delivering on big play after big play. his passing was pretty darn accurate also. The long ball to Riley was perfect and the 2 td passes he threw the ball low but not too low. They were thrown to where only the receiver could get it.He was clearly the difference maker and my hat’s off to him but also to the rest of the gators team. Congrats to the gators!

I think the gators will be too much for OU. The defense is super fast and OU probably hasn’t seen that kind of speed. They also seem to have a habit of faltering in bcs games as of late.

There is one major concern for Fla. Part of OU’s reason for recent failures in BCS games is the coordinators every year interviewing and being pursued by other teams looking for coaches. That’s a major distraction and this year both of Fla’s coordinators are certainly in demand and will be interviewing and talking with other programs. But that’s the only way OU has a chance. Barring UF coaches being distracted or taking new head coaching jobs I think the gators put a beatdown on the sooners and give the SEC 3 titles in a row and 4 out of the last 6.

By G8R GRAD

December 8, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Congratulations to UA for a hard fought, close game. That you guys are so young does not bode well for anyone in the SEC next year (or the year after). Good luck in NO!

That the Gators beat the #1 team in the nation by 11 points without Percy Harvin is amazing. Tim Tebow willed the Gators into the end zone in the fourth!

I know the Heisman is awarded to the best athelete in the land ie. talented, successful, committed, intense, focused, etc., but it should be awarded to the best all-around athelete ie. team leader, motivator and good example, on and off the field.

Tebow deserves the HT on all fronts - going 12-1 against much tougher defenses than any Big 12 QB AND being the kind of quality young man that he is.

Shame on those who voted early. Clearly they had diferent agenda.

GO GATORS and GOOD LUCK TIM!

By reebok

December 8, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

The ACC Championship game is a joke. I was at the one in Jacksonville 2 years ago when Tech lost to Wake in a cold rain, and I bet there weren’t 40,000 people there. Play it in the Georgia Dome Friday at 8 pm, and then play the SEC Championship Saturday at 8 pm. Charlotte is centrally located, but people aren’t going to pack an outdoor stadium in Charlotte in December because the weather is too iffy, and remember that plenty of tix are sold to local businesses, not to fans of either school.

By vince

December 8, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Ugh! Now I am in the awkward position of having to cheer for Oklahoma against an SEC school. I have never pulled for an SEC team to lose in a bowl game, but I just can’t pull for Florida anymore. Their poor sportsmanship completely ruined my opinions of Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow. Talented? Sure. Good sports? Neither.

Something has to be done about the ACC championship game. Despite the announced crowd of 53000, I don’t think there were 20,000 people in the seats. I wondered about the game being at the Ga. dome, too, but think of the embarrassment if the SEC game sold out (a given) and the ACC game only drew 20,000.

By C.Escobar

December 8, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

I agree with everything in this article except that Auburn should hire Turner Gill. Yes, he’s a great coach, anyone who could turn Buffalo around should get that accolade. But Auburn needs a good recruiter if we hope to compete, recruiting wise, against Alabama. I don’t think he could do that. I think Syracuse would be a great fit for him and he could be successful because he already has a recruiting network started. WAR EAGLE

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

2008Champs——No offense meant, Tiger. I have nothing but respect for Auburn and its success on the football field. No other SEC team has played the Gators as frequently and as successfully over the past 19 years as the Tigers. Auburn cost the Gators a shot at the national title in 1994, and very nearly did so again in 2006.

That having been said, Auburn beating Alabama six games in a row, and seven out of nine was an anomaly in the series, and more than one of those wins can be rightly attributed to the Tide’s reduced talent reduced from getting caught with their hand in the recruiting cookie jar. That’s a fair statement, but it also doesn’t take anything away from the Tigers or Tommy Tuberville, who did a great job during his 10-season tenure on the Plains.

Auburn, however, has institutional problems ahead. Your athletic director and university president have a reputation for being weak-kneed and allowing one or more powerful alumni to overstep their rightful bounds. We really don’t need to fully recount Petrino Jet-gate and Mr. Lowder’s influence, do we? Furthermore, a lot of Auburn’s recruiting success historically has been based on cross-border cherry-picking in Florida and Georgia. With the current outstanding recruiting programs at Alabama, Florida, Georgia, a revitalized Georgia Tech, improving FSU and Miami, and the growing programs at USF, UCF, FAU and FIU, it’s hard to see a repeat. As a result of the recent loss of Tubby, AU is also likely to experience a disappointing year in recruiting this year, and will probably lose several of its existing verbal commitments.

Believe me when I say that it gives me no pleasure to say this, but Auburn has serious challenges ahead. Tennessee faces many of the same problems as Auburn, but they do not have a historic in-state rival who will be competing for the best talent.

Good luck. I hope it works out well.

By Elvis

December 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

1. That game is, I think, too hard to call. With the SEC being so down this season how good are is the gators D, really? They could be the best in the country but who knows?

2. Colt McCoy should win this weekend. He is a greater % of the O for a great team.

3. Yes, that would give the Sooners and Longhorns more to argue about. Spices up that rivalry.

4. How about the ACCCG in the Gwinnett Arena? They might actually sell it out.

5. auburn needs someone with Spurriers mouth so we could all sit back and enjoy the drama between the coach and trustees when it all goes south.

BTW, from a Dawg fan, any comparison between UGA 08 and fla 07 is nuts. The fla team had Tebow and Harvin back with a bunch of burners sprinkled in while having a mature, fast D that could tackle. UGA has a maturing O line, a great receiver and…very little else that is proven. I love ‘em but look for a continuation of 08 in 09 for my Dawgs.

By Tommy Trojan

December 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

-#1 Tebow is #3 behind McCoy and Bradford, Colt McCoy wins the Heisman.

-#2 WRONG. Here is how the Bowls and Championships will play out. OU will beat Florida in the BCS CG 31-28 and win the BCS. Ohio State will beat Texas in the Fiesta Bowl 31-14. Utah will beat Alabama 24-17 in the Sugar Bowl. Virginia Tech beats Cincinnati in the Orange Bowl 35-28. USC will beat PSU in the Rose Bowl 52-14 and win the AP.

This is the final nail in the BCS coffin, only a playoff can fairly determine the champion. You want to make a case for Florida against OU based on defense, when the SEC has the same basic weakness.

No defense in the NCAA comes even close to the Trojans this year. #1 passing, #1Scoring, #1 Total Defense. Florida allowed 50% more yards and 50% more points than USC. You ignore these numbers because they don’t fit your “SEC” mentality. USC allowed 87 points in 12 games, less than 8 points a game. The defense had 1 bad quarter all season. You made a big deal about Florida following the lose to Ole Miss, USC has outscored opponents 342-56 since the loss to Oregon State, and only 1 team has scored more than 1 touchdown.

By collegefan

December 8, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Everybody needs to get past giving Texas anything. I am really sick of hearing about texas, and texas tech getting left out after they beat texas, period. If you are gonna give texas a share of a title, then you have to give texas tech a share too.

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

m——Regrettably, you have become a one-trick pony. Your anti-Chan Gailey and ant-SEC tirades have become, well, a little stale.

If you can name an ACC team that is capable of beating either Alabama or Florida, I would like to hear it. If not, please savor the very rare regular season edge over the SEC that the ACC earned this year, and let it go.

As for Chan Gailey, well, since Paul Johnson has arrived in Atlanta, I can hardly remember who the Georgia Tech coach was before him. Perhaps you should let go of your previous anger and disappointment; you’ll live a longer and happier life if you do.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Good News, Bad News for LSU…

First the good news: You didn’t re-elect

William “Cold Cash” Jefferson.

The bad News, you already know, see ya Dec. 31st!!!

By Bagger

December 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

tony:

with respect to your Texas argument.

1. Shouldn’t you also be insisting they play a tougher opponent (Say Alabama at least), what will a win over Ohio St. tell us?

2. In 1993, who did you vote for FSU or UND? By your head to head theory, you should have voted UND to be consistent because since the head to head win is so key, FSU’s overall quality of victories (such as over indefeated #1 Nebraska in the Orange Bowl), by your theory, take a back seat. So who did you vote for?

By Gen Neyland

December 8, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator

A great show in the Dome. Although Alabama outscored the season average for points allowed per game by this years Gator defense, it was to be expected. I commend the Red Elephants on their regular season and their showing in the SECCG. I expect them to finish 13-1… Now comes the final exam. Oklahoma is a scoring machine. We’ll all be keyed to the Gator D vs the Sooners O but in essence, it’ll be more a show to see if the Oklahoma defense can withstand the Florida O… Congrats and good luck in Miami…

By Elvis

December 8, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Is anyone else extremely dissapointed with the Bowl schedule?????

How can New Years Day only have 5 games?

5 GAMES?????

By warhorse

December 8, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Bama is the best tackling team I have seen in a long time. Against an ordinary team (e.g. the Dawgs)Tebow would have picked up ten more yards on several of his runs. Congrats to the Tide for a well played game.

But memo from on high: Tide fans should never, ever boo Tebow again when he runs on the field. It makes you know who a tad bit irritated. lol

By Sooner magic

December 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

On the field, the best defense Oklahoma faced was #50 Texas followed closely by #2 TCU. How can there be such a disparity in their defensive stats? Oklahoma & Texas faced superior offenses week after week in the Big 12. Oklahoma (3rd) faced the 4th (Texas Tech), 6th (Missouri), 7th (Oklahoma State), 9th (Texas), 12th (Nebraska), 23rd (Kansas), 29th (TCU), and 35th (Kansas State)statistically best offenses, ALL averaging over 400 yds per game. Mr Barnhart and others will soon find out that Oklahoma has a young, but very fast and talented defense to go along with their offense.

By DollarBill

December 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

First, it’s always intrigued me as to how you have the self-annointed title of “Mr. College Football”? Your opinions typically show the self-aggrandizement is a laugher.

Why should Auburn hire a coach with one winning season, and that a 7-5 record in the MAC? That qualifies for superior coaching and competing in the SEC? Charlie Strong seems to be a much more attractive choice for a black candidate.

By the way, having been to many high school, college and pro games at the Dome, it is an awful place to play (artificial turf) and watch football.

Get off your high horse, Barnhart. You far overrate yourself.

By jabster

December 8, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Another idea for a Dome CG doubleheader—the highest average BCS ranking between the 2 division champs gets the 8 PM timeslot. Tie goes to whichever conference kicked at 1 the previous year.

By Gator Nation

December 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

* Bama Fans*

It was a great game. Your team and fans were both outstanding. As long as you can replace JPW (who played very well) you will be back in Atlanta next year and the year after.

Poor poor Auburn

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Elvis——Two comments … .

Any questions I had about the talent or the toughness of the 2008 Florida defense was answered Saturday night. The Gator defense made as many big plays as the Gator offense. This will be, by far, the best defense in terms of talent and coaching that Oklahoma as seen all year.

As I said above, the comparison of the ‘07 Gators to the ‘08 Dawgs is an interesting, but imperfect one. You also missed a key point made above: the ‘07 Gator defense had ONE junior starter, and NO senior starters. The 2008 Gator defense is essentially the same talented group of sophomore and juniors, who now have had the benefit of two or three seasons of college coaching and starting experience. Barring unforeseen losses to the NFL draft or on-the-field problems, the Gator defense will be even better next year.

BTW, what was up with that whole silver-sequin Vegas phase?

By Old GT Nut

December 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Frankly, I am surprised that the previous Governor of Louisiana had not already publicly propopsed that the SEC-CG be held in New Orleans, at least on an every other year basis. But as we all know now, she was completely incompetent on many many levels.

So, I expect the new LA Governor and the New Orleans Mayor will soon make the call to the SEC Commissioner and to Sonny Perdue and the Atlanta Sports Council to propose (DEMAND) a rotation of the SEC-CG between Atlanta & New Orleans on an every other year basis. The positive economic impact for Atlanta hosting the SEC-CG is HUGE. LA and New Orleans are going to DEMAND a big piece of that economic pie. Count on it. Afterall, LSU has won (2) National Titles in the last (5)years. Many SEC West fans must surely feel slighted.

The Big 12-CG is rotated between KCity and Dallas on a similar every other year basis so there is precedence for the rotation concept. And that means the SEC, ASC, and Sonny wont be able to resist the demand for a CG rotation.

The Atlanta Sports Council can/should move to an every other year rotation for both the ACC-CG and the SEC-CG game. The SEC between Atlanta & New Orleans, and the ACC between Atlanta & Charlotte. Both conferences would benefit significantly.

By boomer

December 8, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Bama lose only 9 Seniors…but how many will go pro early to beat the NFL Cap change…?? Cody..etc. New QB…and Nick usually starts to burn players and coaches out in year 3….good luck…!!

By StraightJacket

December 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Tony is on to something: I’ll save the long-winded explanation of why Charlotte is NOT the answer for the ACCCG, but Atlanta could - and SHOULD get this gig as it would be a huge benefit for both the city AND the ACC. Tony is RIGHT in saying that logistics of season-ending rivalries would be a problem. Here’s the solution: Move the ACCCG to the Friday night BEFORE the SECCG. Reasoning: VERY few high schools are remaining in the playoffs that late, so Friday night shouldn’t be an issue. On the PREVIOUS weekend, MOVE the SEC - ACC rivalry games to the FRIDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING - MOST of those teams (USC, Clemson, UGA, TECH, UF, and FSU) have an off week before that anyway! With a FULL week between the rivalry games, ACC could play on Friday night, and SEC on Saturday. And BEFORE you say there’s “NO WAY” to properly do TWO championship games on the same weekend, remember: This is the SAME CITY that hosted the Olympic Games. I think we can two two big football games back-to-back. -SJ

By Carolina Jacket

December 8, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Wouldn’t an eight team playoff been hell this year!!!! There are eight teams that could possibly win it all and all of the games would be terrific. We’ve got to keep pressure on the college presidents and athletic directors. And with all that tv money there will still be plenty to go around.

By tomsanidiot

December 8, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

If OU beats Florida, Texas should get a share? Then Texas would have to share with Texas Tech. What about Ole Miss getting a share also? OU and Florida both lost once. One lost to a top 5 team and one to a top 25 team(at home). Why would the team that lost to the higher ranked team have to share..you SEC homer?

By Bassman

December 8, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Auburn will make a solid hire. It may not be a spectacular hire, but it will be someone who can, from Day 1, get out there and compete successfully with Saban, Richt, Meyer & the rest of the SEC coaches. If some of the names being spoken of outside of internet rumor circles are accurate, the hire may be the most spectacular hire in recent history, INCLUDING Saban. There are names out there interested in this job that most folks wouldn’t believe.

Auburn isn’t bereft of talent. Whoever inherits this team will have a chance to win right out of the gate if the offensive woes can even be ameliorated to some degree, which is to say that the Auburn offense can just become “average” -certainly doable in one offseason.

The old saw about Auburn not being able to compete when Alabama is strong hasn’t been true since the Bear years, unless you admit the converse is true - which is that Bama can’t compete when AUBURN is strong. You can’t explain away the entire decade of the 80s or this decade that way. It makes no sense.

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Gen Neyland——Many thanks. These Gators won their conference championship the old-fashioned way: they earned it.

What’s the word on the new Tennessee coach and probable assistants? (I understand that he is bringing his dad as an assistant.) What’s the recruiting impact?

By Elvis

December 8, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator-

I got your point and agree. Your D in 07 was young and got OTJ. In 08 they are mature. Your safety really had the most growing to do and he did. Lots of key guys left after 06 which is what allowed losses to teams like UGA and Michigan last year. Maybe somebody will get smart and finally hire Strong as HC (how long has he been waiting?) and the fla D can take a small step back. A guy can dream.

Then there is the whole leadership that Tebow brings to the ENTIRE team. UGA is missing that as much as anything.

On the flip side…#35 stands out on UGA’s D because the rest are so lackluster. I do not see any great change from one year to the next like we saw in bama or fla.

Go Dawgs.

By Josh Payne

December 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Congratulation to the Gators. I was at the dome & their fans are a class act. The exact opposite of all you LOSER UGAy fans. Good luck with OU!

By GatorG

December 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Bama fans,

It was indeed an epic, hard-fought game Saturday - you should be proud of your team! Even better (in my opinion) was that the Bama fans I was around showed a lot of class - before the game, during the game, and after the game. I think we’ll be seeing each other in Atlanta many more times in the coming years.

Concerning the ACCCG: As someone who attended the first two SECCG’s in Birmingham, I can say the weather can be miserable in December! Moving the game to the dome was one of the best moves the SEC ever made. That said, the ACC already has an inferiority complex to the SEC. Playing the ACCCG at the dome, either on Friday or Saturday before the SEC game, will just make that worse. It will be an obvious “undercard” to the SEC game. If anything, schedule the SEC game in the afternoon and the ACC game in the evening.

Go Gators! Soon to be 2008 National Champions!!

By bama12titles

December 8, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

G8r Grad,

Congrats on the SEC title if you missed my earlier post. I think Tebow does win the heisman, especially after so many clutch plays in the Bama game. If anything the voters out west will split their vote up between McCoy, Bradford, and Harrell. It might end up being a round about way for Tebow to win but whatever gets it done. Of course I’m biased being an SEC fan.

While getting psyched for the Bama-UF game I thought I would watch the ACC game as a warmup to get the juices flowing. What a snoozefest. I’ve got nothing against the ACC but that game was pathetic not just in the quality of play but the attendance was embarrassing.

Moving the game to Atl. might help a little as far as attendance goes due to location but it aint gonna change a whole lot. If Bama and UF were shelling out over $400 for the cheap tix and $1200 for the best tix there is no excuse for ACC fans to at least fill up the Tampa stadium. Don’t blame it on location. Throw in the cost of airfare and it would still be cheaper for ACC fans to attend then it was for SEC fans to pay $400-$1200 per ticket. If you could build a 200,000 seat stadium Bama-UF would still have filled it up. That is a fact. Don’t blame it on weather either for not holding the game in Charlotte. Weather as a concern is bogus. Fans still go to outside games for the Panthers and all the way up the east coast whether it be the giants, eagles, pats, bills, etc. Jax is reasonably located and they couldn’t fill that stadium last year either. The bottom line is that even ACC fans don’t respect ACC football enough to attend.

By Preseason #1

December 8, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

So if Florida wins, they should share the trophy with Texas, right? Since they’d be the only two teams that beat OU. And if you had to choose between one-loss teams UF and UT, you’d go with Texas because the Longhorns loss was against a better opponent.

Also, get back to me when you figure out how Texas Tech should get a share of the championship too.

By mcdawg

December 8, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

was looking forward to seeing how Alabama’s D would match against OU’s O-Line but must say UF Defense was impressive

Tim Tebow best player in college football

Orange Bowl gets another dud

By Jamelle Holloway

December 8, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Turner Gill should coach whom? Get real. Mr. College Football, you just made that statement so that you can claim credit for “thinking outside the box,” when you know you wouldn’t let someone with Gill’s record anywhere near a team you actually cared about (e.g., Georgia).

By WILL

December 8, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Guys,

I wasn’t trying to make a perfect comparison between the 07’ Gators and current Dawgs. I was just trying to say that they reminded me on one another in certain ways. The first being that their defense sucked and it cost them games. I know UF was riddled with trued FROSH and sophomores and my dawgs have a bunch of Juniors and Seniors. You don’t have to rub that in. I also realize our current D coordinator probably cannot “right the ship” as fast as Charlie Strong. Ok….I get it. I’m just trying to hold out some hope for next year!

By Rocky Perdoni

December 8, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Is it just me, or are there others out there who believe Tebow is a bit overrated? He’s a fine player, but one gets the impression that Florida could win as many games with anyone else, and could win all games with someone with the talent Tebow is credited with. The historical facts is: Tim Tebow was the qb of a team that got beat by an inferior opponent. If Tebow actually possessed all those traits attributed to him, he’d have willed a victory over the Rebels.
I compare him more with that Kansas quarterback (Reesing) than with the superior Texas, Texas Tech, OU, Missouri and USC quarterbacks.

By Old GT Nut

December 8, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

How many hits from the journalism “crackpipe” can Tony take in just one article??

First, being the SEC-homer that Tony is, he ntaturally says that Florida(SEC team) has the “edge” vs OK. Folks, you heard it here first: **OK is going to S-T-E-A-M-R-O-L-L Florida. That should put an end to the delusion of SEC supremacy. When OK pounds UF, like 56-23, it will makr the end of the SEC delusion.

FACT: OK has been D-E-S-T-R-O-Y-I-N-G teams ranked AS HIGH OR HIGHER than most or all SEC teams.

Second, Tebow(SEC again) should win the Heisman. Not even a mention of the ridiculous stats MULTIPLE Big 12 QBs are putting up. Oh, I forgot. Tony said its because of all of those “weak” Big 12 defenses. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Third, Tony proposes that even if OK beats UF, OK isnt a “legitimite” Champ and doesnt deserve the outright national title because of Texas. WTH ??? Early season losses get discounted. Late season wins & losses count for more. Would OK beating UF 100-23 make it more convincing for you Tony?

Fourth, Tony (via the ASC) proposes some ridiculously, convoluted plan by which the ASC and the Ga Dome would host both the ACC-CG and the SEC-CG each year. This passes for sports journalism?? That wont happen.

Again, Tony (trying his best to pretend the Big 12 doesnt exist) either doesnt know or doesnt wont to mention that the Big 12 already has a CG rotation schedule between Dallas & KCity.

Wont be long before we’ll hear word that the SEC “is considering” a CG rotation between Atlanta & New Orleans. Folks, you heard this one hear first also: LA & New Orleans are going to DEMAND a CG rotation. That will open the door for the ACC-CG in Atlanta on a rotation basis.

There’s Tony, and then there’s sports journalism. Dont confuse the two.

By Bama Fan

December 8, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Atlanta gator and other gators fans good luck in the national championship game. Eric1 you are a sorry piece of human waste!! The OU and Florida game should be a great game and high scoring game!! Bama and the gators will meet in future SEC title games!! Hopeful Bama will win one!! ROLL TIDE FOLKS!!

By hold em

December 8, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

I can’t make my mind up about FL, their loss to Ole Miss, they scheduled the Citadel late in the season, people say they have a great defense, but everyone knows there isn’t much offense in the SEC this year, this will be a great game!

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Elvis——Regarding Charlie Strong, you got that right, Dawg. Coach Strong has been associated with the Florida football program since 1983, when he served as graduate assistant straight out of Central Arkansas State. He has coached the Gator linebackers, defensive end, strength & conditioning, and has served as either defensive coordinator or co-coordinator since 2003. He has been a big part of the Gators’ success over the last 2 decades, but has also had assistant coaching jobs at Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Notre Dame and South Carolina. He was also our interim head coach after Zook got canned.

Knowledgeable Gators would hate to lose him, but Coach Strong has clearly earned the opportunity to be the head coach of his own team.

As for Tim Tebow’s leadership qualities, well, you’ve already said it all. I hope he returns for his senior year. Money isn’t everything, and I think his passing game, as good as it is, would benefit from another year of experience and college coaching. Perhaps a few more shotgun and pro-style plays could be inserted into the game plan to better ready him for the next level. Despite the naysayers’ grumbling, I suspect that he will do just fine in NFL.

By Chris

December 8, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

I SAY IT AGAIN, HAVE THE ACC CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE HOME STADIUM OF ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS. Even if the game was in Atlanta every year you won’t fill it up. The fan bases are not big enough at schools like BC, Wake, NC, NC State, Maryland, Virginia, Miami to sell out these games. The traditional rivalries just are’nt there. YOU WILL FILL IT UP EVERY TIME IF IT’S AT A HOME STADIUM. For logistics see my earlier post. I guess it just makes too much sense to do it.

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Bama Fan——Back at you, buddy. Saban and the Tide will win an SEC championship game in the near future. I just hope that it’s not at the Gators’ expense.

By 2008Champs

December 8, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Atl Gator. Auburn has always had an up hill battle. These challenges you mention are what makes Auburn’s accomplishments so special. No State Name. No Media love fest that state schools enjoy. Blind eyes towards Tuscaloosa recruiting are all clear disadvantages.

There is one intangible. What Auburn does have is special. It’s has a small town feel but is close to everything larger cities have to offer and don’t have to offer. If I want to dance or shop in the Big City, Sun at the Beach, hunt, fish or water-ski in beautiful lakes and rivers, or play competitively in the greatest football conference, then I would want to go to Auburn. Auburn is also a great institution of learning and (Biastly)Auburn has the greatest fan base.

Auburn has all the pleasures without the hassle!

Great recruiting talent abounds in close proximity too. These Challenges are WHY Auburn has been successful and will continue to do so. Auburn relishes the Challenge and that is why Auburn is a winner. NO built in advantages, just WILL and DETERMINATION!

The SEC was fortunate that CTT’s move to the spread flopped. This season was a train wreck and CTT is the only one to blame. However, had the move been the least bit successful (a TD more a game), Auburn would have been in Atlanta IMHO. The talent was there, but the talent and assistant coaching to run Franklins spread was not there. Thus a train wreck!

After this coaching search, expect this dysfunctional administrative group to be disbanded and CTT to be Auburn’s next AD. CTT loves Auburn and Auburn loves CTT. War Eagle!

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Old GT Nut——I hope you will spend some time with us on January 9th, and share your analysis of the BCS title game after it’s been played.

You may recall the last time the talking heads predicted that Florida would be blown out in a national title game … . refresh my memory, how did that turn out?

By saint nick

December 8, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Without Tebow UF would have lost 3 games this year. But, he is one of the 3 best COLLEGE football players I have seen, Lawrence Phillips, Vince Young, and Tebow are the best 3 COLLEGE players ever.I am VERY proud of the Tide this year!!! If you polled 500 Bama fans before the year started and asked if Bama would go 12-1 and lose to FLA in the SECCG and STILL go to the Sugar Bowl with a chance to be only the 2nd Bama team to win 13 in one year, 500 WOULD SAY BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BAMA fans don’t hang your head, next year was supposed to be “the” year, the SECCG will be a rematch if Tebow comes back for his senior year, if not it will be Bama vs. UGA!!!!! We only lose 5 starters and will get a serious upgrade at QB!!!! ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Georgia Fan

December 8, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

I hate Florida with a zeal the likes of which few have ever seen, but its the time of year to lay aside the bias and give credit where credit is due. They are kicking some major a$$ right now. Bama is a great team. I said GREAT, not good. Florida still won by double digits. Florida v. Chokelahoma will be an absolute snoozer. I probably won’t even bother watching this bloodbath.

By Atlanta Gator

December 8, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

2008Champs——I wish nothing but the best for Auburn (at least when they’re not playing the Gators), and I recognize that they have been able to overcome the in-state recruiting disparity in the past. However, I think circumstances have changed. In order to get the 4 and 5-star talent, the Tigers may have to go to more of a national recruiting model, and I’m not sure the program has the national recognition to pull that off. I hope I’m wrong and you’re right. Time will tell.

By bama12titles

December 8, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Boomer,

Don’t you go worrying about Bama. We will lose 1 jr in Andre Smith to the draft. That’s it though. Cody will stay. He has already said so and quite frankly he is good but a little overhyped. He could use another year and even if he did go we’ve built a lot of depth behind and beside him. We lose 3 good o-lineman and 2 good tight ends. But we have been stockpiling 4 and 5 star olineman for a couple of years and will be fine there. Same with D-lineman. We’re pretty loaded at tight end too and won’t see a drop off there. We lose a safety and replace him with a 5 star recruit Mark Barron who played very well as a backup freshman. JP Wilson will be replaced with either a hotshot highly rated redshirt freshman in Star Jackson or a redshirt jr in Greg McElroy who was the Texas 5A player of the year coming out of high school.As far as personnel goes the cupboard is not only full but getting overflowing. Your statement that all of Saban’s coaches will burnout and leave is the jealous ranting of an Auburn fan. Keep hoping while we keep stockpiling talent. BTW, it was nice to see that linebacker Jonothan Atchison change his committment from Auburn to Bama after the sec title game. Even though we lost even he could see we are young and will be a force to be reckoned with for years to come.

By saint nick

December 8, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

For the aubbies to come on this blog and start ragging Bama fans about getting beat in the SECCG is utterly ridiculous considering that the aubbies have been to the dome exactly 2 times the past 10 years, ironicly the same amount of times Bama has. Ouch that has to hurt!!!!You guys had your fun in the sun, now Bama will reclaim its rightful place as THE #1 Program in the state, 36-0 read em and weep losers, and before you start spouting about 6 in a row, remember we own the record 9 in a row!!!!!!!!!!!!!One and counting plow boys!!ROLL TIDE!!!

By Auburn recruiting

December 8, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Tom Luginbill, the noted recruiting analyst for ESPN, was asked how many of Auburn’s 25 recruiting committments would stick with Auburn after Tubbs quit/got fired/who really knows. His answer was most interesting.

Of Auburn’s 25 committments about 20 of them will absolutely stick with Auburn. Why? Because Auburn is their only SEC offer. No one else in the conference wants most of their players except maybe Vandy or Miss St. About 5 or possibly 6 of their recruits are coveted by another major program in the sec like bama, UGA, UF, LSU, etc. The other 20 players have as their offers schools like UAB, Tulsa, UCF, Southern Miss, basically 2nd tier conference teams.

Auburn recruited a lot of undersized but quicker, faster players for the spread offense. Unfortunately, they will now be going back to a power running game or traditional pro set with a bunch of smaller sized guys built for a spread type attack. It’ll be interesting to see how that goes.

Tubbs went head to head with Bama over 14 instate recruits last year. Bama won 14-0. This year is a replay of last year and it looks like the top 7 instate players will either go to Bama or 1 might go out of state but none will be going to Auburn.

Auburn used to get some good players from Florida and Georgia. But with the rise of UGA under Richt, the improvement of GA. Tech and the lockdown of Fla. by Meyer its getting harder and harder on Auburn. On of the top 5 Auburn recruits this year jonothan Atchison from Atlanta just switched his committment from Auburn to Bama. From a talent standpoint Auburn is in serious trouble and things aren’t going to get any better anytime soon. They are quickly slipping to irrelevant status and that is a fact.

By CD323

December 8, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Alabama has a legitimate gripe in being ranked below Texas, a team that lost during the regular season and didn’t play in or win its conference championship game.

If you argue that Texas should get a share of the NC if Oklahoma wins, you should argue harder for Alabama if the Tide beats Utah.

By Jerry World to get BCS game

December 8, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Hello!!!

Guess who’s palace will be open for business next year??

It’s as plain as day: the championship game will be rolling into Dallas texASS in the near future.

One less home game for the SEC and ACC!!

BOOMER EFFIN SOONER!!

By bull-gator

December 8, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Florida’s defense will finally dirty Mr. Bradford’ cream colored pants, all game long. Say hello to Messers. Spikes, Cunningham, Dunlap, and Hill (#10 is a blitz specialist par excellence). That was a classic SEC rock’em, sock’em football game in the Dome Saturday. Bama was scary in the 3rd qtr. Tebow was the difference maker in the 4th. I think the southwest voters will split their Heisman votes between Bradford, McCoy and Harrell thereby paving the way for Tebow to repeat as he is the best all around “football player” in the country. Who cares about an AP champion? It’s no longer relevant. As for the ACC, they should play their championship game at Fed-Ex Field in DC starting at noon the weekend after their last regular season games are played. Who cares about the weather? Bring on the Game! Turner Gill is the next Nebraska head coach in waiting. Auburn would be a disaster for him.

By Florida Dawg

December 8, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

I didn’t see anywhere near 50,000 fans at the ACC Championship game in Tampa…how about 25,000?

By bank walker

December 8, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

I have mentioned this in other posts, but why is the SUGAR BOWL subjected to take teams like Utah or Hawaii? It’s ridiculous, and every BCS bowl should be made to take these teams as well. No, I’m not knocking those schools or fans, but come on! They might as well start calling it the “SWEET AND LOW BOWL”

By nofldawg

December 8, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

(1) & (2) Congrats to Tebow and the Gators. This will be three years in a row for the SEC winning the BCS Championship.

Don’t waste your time with (3), it’s not going to happen!

(4) ACC Championship problem is not where the game is played. The problem is the fan bases for the ACC schools. The SEC Championship benefits from a conference that has seven to eight huge fan bases. The ACC tried to point the finger at the City of Jacksonville for not supporting the game. The city of Atlanta is never asked to support the SEC title game because the schools involved will most certainly sell the game out. Clemson may be the only school in the ACC that has the fan base of programs like Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, South Carolina and Tennessee. Why do you think that Clemson was invited to the Gator Bowl over a Florida State? There are very few matchups that would sell out the ACC title game in a 72,000 plus venue and most all of those matchups would have to involve Clemson. In the SEC there are very few matchups that would not result in a sellout. Most likely would have to involve Vanderbilt and one of the Mississippi schools. (5) Auburn has just taken a major step back in competing with Nick Saban. It may be at least five years before they beat Alabama again.

By JB

December 8, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

When teams don’t turn the ball over to UF, they go and down the field. UGA did but turned the ball over.

Bama, who does not have near the O that OU does, went up and down the field.

I’ll be more than a little surpised if OU doesn’t score at least 30. That’s not say that UF won’t eother but OU will get their points.

HBTD!!!

By Steven C

December 8, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Stupid article….

By bama12titles

December 8, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

JB,

Didn’t you say about 10 times in various posts that the gators were going to blow us out of the stadium by 30 or 40 pts? I seem to remember seeing that post from you multiple times. But then again you also said “book it” Georgia goes unbeaten the rest of the way after the Bama game. What gives?

By give Charlotte a chance before you change the format.

December 8, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Some might be happy after BOA stadium is viewed full on national TV (hey, it could happen). Watch UNC and WV fill it up this year. Besides, real champ football is played outside.

By UGA still #1

December 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

If Florida thought the Ole Miss game was tough, wait til they see the Sooners. Prediction: OU 66, UF 24. It’ll be just like Nebraska/Florida of a decade and half ago. Florida hasn’t experienced either the speed or the talent that the Sooners have on both sides of the ball.

By SEC 1-6?

December 8, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Could this happen? Florida loss to OU, yes it could. Unbeaten Utah beat Alabama, yes that could happen. Texas Tech beat Ole Miss, thats in the bank. Michigan State beat Mich. opps Georgia, that will happen. Iowa beat South Carolina, yes, they beat Penn State. GT beat LSU, that’s a lock. Hopefully Kentucky will handle East Carolina.

By saint nick

December 8, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

UGA still #1,

Don’t drink the bong water!!!!66 points????You are officially the biggest idiot i have ever seen on this blog!!!!!!OU will be lucky to score 35 and will be VERY lucky to hold FLA under 50!!!Speed??? Fla sees more speed at practice than they will see in MIA. Fla will put a serious beatdown in OU!!!!!!!!!!!

By Resentment still

December 8, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Uga Still #1,

Really? I didn’t know UGA is still no. 1. Someone forgot to fill me in on that. You aren’t even #1 in your own state. Tech is.

You just resentful still over the 49-10 azz whuppin session from a few weeks ago.

By Dutch

December 8, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

TONY, QUESTION. * Please Answer*

This is a BIG “if”, however… “IF” the Gaytors beat OU, Alabama beats Utah and Texas loses, wouldn’t it be likely that the SEC would finish the season with the top 2 teams AGAIN<

2006- FLorida, LSU 2007- LSU, Georgia 2008- Florida, Alabama???

I realize USC will shalack JoePa and have one loss. However, WHO COULD POSSIBLY have a better argument for #2 as a one loss team than Alabama? There only losse coming to the National Champions in a close, hard-fought game?

And, as a journalist, what IMPLICATIONS would this have for the SEC? I trust that it’s never happened before. Talk about dominance.

Thanks

By It Gets Worse

December 8, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

It’s worse than I thought, 1-7, Vandy will lose to BC. 1-7 is that a record?

By Just Wondering

December 8, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Help somebody. If it’s the University of Oklahoma and not Oklahoma University, how come they call it “OU” ?

By Hal

December 8, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

The conference Championship games are a waste of time and what do they prove? Alabama or Florida would be a worthy opponent for OK or Tex. It’s just a money grabber for the conferences. In Florida they advertised the game with a guy who’s voice sounded as if he were standing the middle of New York city. Who was he talking to? Nobody down here. Nobody is going to travel to these games or buy tickets to see these games at the last minute when they ca see it better on TV. Have you paid for an airline ticket lately?

By sec rules

December 8, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Just when you think you’ve seen the world’s biggest idiot you see the post from sec 1-6? and it gets worse.

First of all Bama and the gators both roll. Especially Bama. What kind of drugs are you on the you think Utah could beat Bama? A nonbcs team like Utah will fold the same way Hawaii folded against UGA last year. Ole Miss is physical, real physical. Their D-line is awesome and they will beat the hell out of Texas Tech. Graham Harrell will see a pass rush similar to when OU sacked him repeatedly. Ole Miss runs over, around, and through that porous Texas Tech D. I seem to remember Texas Tech averaging 45 a game a couple years ago and getting shut down by Bama 13-10 in the 06 Cotton Bowl. History repeats itself. UGA will rise up and put the beatdown on Mich. State. They just don’t have the athletes that the dawgs have. Nuff said bout that as the dawgs open it up against spartie. Kentucky will handle East Carolina. Lsu losing to Ga. tech is anything but a lock you idiot. LSU was terrible on pass defense this year. It was their run defense that was decent. They stand a decent chance against the jackets. Vandy and South Carolina are the only 2 sec teams that I have no confidence in. But other than that the sec will roll yet again. 7-2 last year and we will win more than we lose this year certainly.

By hold em

December 8, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

sec rules, you are talking about the Ole Miss that got beat by Wake Forest right? No they aren’t not real physical

By Marco

December 8, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

If I were an ACC fan, I would prefer Charlotte over Atlanta simply because football was a sport meant to be played outdoors in an open-air stadium (Bank of America Stadium), not inside a comfy yet dreary-looking dome with all that poor-looking, manufactured lighting. That’s why the Rose Bowl and the Coliseum are two of the top venues in the land. Yeah, we got better weather but that doesn’t automatically mean a dome is better than being outside where the game is meant to be. Can’t stand domes! Too NFL-ish.

Fight On!

By Carolina Jacket

December 8, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

I agree with Bank Walker, the Sugar Bowl is absurd. Who should be there? No brainer. Bama and Texas — and that would be a great game. It could also have serious implications for the selection of Number One. Another example of the stupid system we are now using.

By Red Elephant

December 8, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Congratulations Gators. Tebow may go down as the greatest college football player in NCAA history. I don’t think it is crazy to say he compares with Herschel Walker! Go all the way. Roll Tide.

By sec rules

December 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Hold em,

I’m sure you understand the concept that teams get better as the year goes on, especially teams that have a brand new coaching staff, new qb, etc. The ole miss team that lost to wake in the 1st or 2nd game of the season is a lot different than the same team that beat the gators later, narrowly lost to bama, then pounded LSU and Missy State into the ground. They finished on a roll and I think its a safe bet to say they will challenge Bama for the west next year. Care to place a wager on the Ole Miss-Wake game next year? Ole Miss will destroy them next year. It won’t even be close.

By BigP

December 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

WHY NOT PLAY THE ACC CHAMPIONSHIP AT ONE OF THE CONTENDERS STADIUMS? The ACC is too spread out to have anywhere near the success the SEC does. The ACC won’t get 60,000 for the game in the DOME unless GT or FSU are in it.

By G8R GRAD

December 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

bama12titles, stnick & bamafan:

Thanks.

Great game Saturday.

See you right back there next year (when it will, no doubt, be your turn)!

On to the Sugar Bowl!

RTR!!!!!!!

By sec rules all talk

December 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

Talk about an idiot. If you pulled your head out of your azz for just a second and read; the post said “could this happen”. And YES it could.

After losing by 7 in it’s opener Mich State only lost to OHIO State and Penn State both ranked in the BSC top 10, they beat # 22 Northwestern, YES they could win. Iowa had 1 loss by 3 to Illinois, and its other losses came to top 20 teams, YES they could win. Texas Tech is ranked #7 in the BCS and they have only 1 loss, to Oklahoma BSC #1, They beat #3 Texas and # 13 Ok St. YES they could win. Nobody can argue, Oklahoma could beat Florida, and Utah is undefeated, Alabama will have to beat them to change that.

What a Friggin SEC Goober you are. If you think just because a team comes from south of the Mason Dixon Line they are unbeatable, than you need to stop drinking the FLAVOR AID. BTW you Goobers often use the expression “drink the kool-aid”, which is a reference to Jonestown. Well, they didn’t drink kool-aid, they drank Flavor–aid. Open a book and read about it HOMER, you know what books are, don’t you; those things you have been tearing the pages out of to wipe your azz, you loser.

By G8R GRAD

December 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Red Elephant:

Thanks.

I would sure rather see y’all go up against a Texas or USC, rather than Utah!

Nonetheless, go get’em!

RTR!!!!

By Who cares?

December 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Two words for Tony Barnhart and the rest of the BCS/bowl system apologists in the media: WHO CARES?

Florida v. Oklahoma: WHO CARES? Can OU get in to a BCS title game without somebody getting royally screwed over? I have my doubts. We all know what happens to this hyped up overrated creampuff the second it plays a powerful team from another conference. This one will be ugly.

USC v. Penn State: USC goes for win number 1,456,896,734,023 in a row over the Big 10 in the rose bowl. Whoopdeedoo!!! WHO CARES?

Texas v. Ohio State: I am just beside myself with excitement over Texas playing for the all important AP media crown voted on by a bunch of pencil neck dorks that have never played a down of football in their entire lives. College football players are pushed to their absolute limits physically, mentally, and emotionally every season. To think that their fate is in the hands of guys like Stewart Mandel shocks the conscience. I can sum up the AP poll in two words: WHO CARES?

Alabama v. Utah: Oh my god, WHO CARES?

Cincinatti v. Virginia Tech: Is this some kind of a joke? WHO CARES?

Time to go home folks. The season is over.

By **The Blog Referee**

December 8, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

“sec rules all talk” That nasty tirade just cost you 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct.

When confronted by a fellow blogger with whose opinion you disagree, please try to respond cleverly, rather than by increasing the level of vitriol and invective.

By Scott

December 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

To avoid the kind of problem where one division is much stronger than the other (see Big 12 North and South), they ought to have a rule where two teams from the same division can appear in the title game if the winner of the other division is not within 10 poll spots of the 2nd place team in the other division. This would have resulted in a rematch of Texas and Oklahoma and no one would have argued. The SEC should adopt a similar rule, but I doubt that it would ever be needed.

By John S.

December 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Tony,

I don’t think you know what you are talking about. Yes, Florida’s defense is awesome, but look at who is on that Oklahoma offense. Their offense has so many playmakers. Sam Bradford is an unbelievable passer. They have good running backs and great wide receivers. Final Score:

OU 38

Florida 37

By Playoff Lineup

December 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t this be a grat set of games to see.1st round 12-20-08, round 2 12-27-08, Championship 1-8-08.

-#1 OK v #8 PSU

_______Winner

-#4 Alabama v #5 USC

________BCS NCG

-#3 Texas v #6 Utah

_______Winner

-#2 Florida v #7 TT

By Chris

December 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Shouldn’t Tebow have been trying hard before the Ole Miss game too? Why is he getting all of this praise by basically admitting he wasn’t giving 110%? Seems like a slap in the face to me. And it’s a shame, because I do believe he is the best player in the country, but Bradford has better numbers. Bottom line. Maybe if Bradford had broken down and cried after the Texas loss and promised to do better, he would be getting some man love as well.

By Scott

December 8, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

To Hal who says the conference championship games are a waste of time. I guess this year you are correct. Bama and Florida should have gone directly to Miami and played for the national championship trophy in Miami. They are clearly the two best teams in the country and that will be proven to be true once all the bowls are said and done.

By G8R GRAD

December 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

I know I’m overstating the obvious here, but they should wait until after the NCG is played to award the best player of the year the Heisman.

Until that game is finished, the year isn’t over!

By Hey Scott

December 8, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

With Bama’s matchup (Utah) nothing will be proved. We need a playoff.

By G8R GRAD

December 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Not even close.

Gators by three touchdowns

Then we’ll see about putting in our B squad for the second half!

By G8R GRAD

December 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Chris:

… it’s a shame, because I do believe he is the best player in the country …

End of story.

By Scott

December 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

When Ole Miss takes care of Big 12 South Co-Champion, Texas Tech, I think it will be proven how superior the SEC is to the Big 12.

By G8R GRAD

December 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Who Cares:

I agree.

R.I.P Bowl System!

Give us a playoff!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Tommy Trojan

December 8, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Playoff Lineup,

Look’s good.

Round 1 - OK beats PSU, USC beats Alabama, Florida beats TT, and Texas beats Utah.

Round 2- USC beats OK, and Florida beats Texas.

BCS CG- USC beats Florida.

FIGHT ON

By PTC DAWG

December 8, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

This Dawg fan say Boomer Sooner!!

I could care less what folks think about the SEC myself.

What folks don’t ever say about OU is that they flat out run more plays per game than most anyone. They ran 236 more offensive plays this year than UF. That’s a LOT.

They snap the ball most of the time with 15 seconds left on the play clock. They know what they want to do, and do it. It’s a HUGE advantage to run that many more plays per game.

By GoDawgs85

December 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

G8R Grad: I totally agree about making the Heisman vote after the NC Game. I never understood why it was before it. I mean, especially if two of the main candidates are playing in the NC game. What better way to decide who’s better than to put them head-to-head in THE game? C’mon, who would have really voted for Troy Smith after y’all destroyed Ohio State in 06? Haven’t heard too much from him since then…

By Hey Hal

December 8, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

If every team in the conference plays every other team, they don’t need a CG. The 12 team conferences need the CG because they don’t play every team. That said, If you want to drop a couple of your pansy schedule fillers, play every team in your conference, and skip the CCG, why not. What does beating a Div 1AA team prove?

By Heisman Trophy

December 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

The HT isn’t a team award. It’s awarded to the best player. Voting after the regular schedule is completed if fine. The best player may not always be on the best team. The award should not depend on your teams rank.

By dogs think bragging about SEC makes them look better

December 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

but it makes them look not better.

By GK

December 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Florida’s defense barely escaped Alabama. Now they will have to contend with a real high powered and punishing offense. The Gators defense will not be able to keep up and their offense is not as overwhelming as advertised, even with Percy Harvin in the lineup. Unfortunately they have to wait an MONTH to play for the championship. With a MONTH off there surely could be a playoff to determine the true champion, just like the other collegiate levels have being doing for decades.

By grf

December 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Well, even if Florida beats OU by 10, OU will still win the MNC, based on their body of work. RIght, Sooners?

By Playoffs Anybody?

December 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Playoffs? The oddsmakers have worked out the favorite, no suprise here. Take a look.

Here’s the line

By bama12titles

December 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Looking at Tebow and Bradford it does only make you ask the question “Why have the Heisman vote before the end of the full season?” Someone made a point above that if we did it this way then pretenders like Troy Smith would have been exposed. Where is he by the way anyway? Personally I’m convinced Tebow wins it again although obviously I’m biased as a Bama fan. He converted so many clutch plays especially 3rd down conversions against my tide that I just can’t see anyone else carrying their team to victory the way he did.

I think it would be good to have the vote after Mccoy,Bradford, and Tebow all play their bowl games. The sec has 2 great matchups in UF vs OU and OLE MISS vs TEXAS TECH. I think we win both and reestablish sec dominance. But if we lose both I’ll be the first one on here to eat crow and say the Big 12 was better.

By referee throwin da flag

December 8, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Eric,

You are a classless jerk.

By Navigator

December 8, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

On a little different note, Fulmer is staying a Tennessee in an administrative capacity. I think that’s a horrible idea for the incoming coach. For years there were rumors that Fulmer worked in the back ground to undermine Johnny Majors. I think the same thing could have again with the new coach. Jealously and selfishness can drive people to do some disgusting things. Tennessee should have cut Fulmer loose.

By dh

December 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Tony, I enjoy reading your takes, opinions, and predictions but I am often reminded of the old adage when I read you. “Often wrong, but never in doubt” You are right about Tebow though. Maybe the best the SEC has ever seen. He made some incredible throws Sat. which is supposed to be his weak link. I think Auburn will hire Gill.

By GT

December 8, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

Tony I find you more often right. You have the inside scoope on most stuff, and you write without offending which is refreshing.

By **The Blog Referee**

December 8, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Eric, You’ve just been penalized 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct for unnecessary crudeness. You’ve also just been removed because you are not old enough to play this game.

To the digital locker room with you, little man.

By Hmmm

December 8, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

I know that the stereotypes about the south are wrong, but it doesn’t take long reading this blog to realize why they persist. There is a lot of man love going on here. Some kind of SEC circle jerk. Weird.

There is a world outside the south, believe it or not. If you look at the stats and records Tebow isn’t the leading HT prospect. He trails both McCoy and Bradford. There are 6 or 8 teams that could make a case for a title shot, if you look at the match ups in the BCS Florida should be a 2 or 3 point underdog to OK. If you consider who would win a playoff if it existed most experts would give USC a edge over the rest. You pick and choose what statistics you choose to consider and ignore the same criteria if it doesn’t fit your SEC model.

I can only pray we see a playoff system soon. Who cares what conference your team plays in. Play your schedule, win your conference, win your playoff and play for the title.

By Anonymous

December 8, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Hmmm, last time I checked Las Vegas is located in Nevada, a state not commonly associated with the South. The opening Vegas betting line on the BCS title game is Florida (minus-3).

BTW, when you use the word “south” to refer to a region of these United States, please do not forget to capitalize it, as in “the South.”

Thank you. Y’all come back, you hear?

By UGA is so last year

December 8, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

Oklahoma looks SO much better then Florida sorry. And, the QB from Oklahoma should and will get the Heisman. Barnhart have a hard-on for Florida or something? has he not watched Oklahoma at all this year. They are spectacular. Regarding the ACC Championship game, the best team wasn’t there - ah, duh! GT was the cream of the ACC crop. These championship games are only good if the 2 teams playing haven’t met during the season. With 8 conference games, that is tough.

By ATLHORN

December 8, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Have you looked at who blowU and texas tech played early in the season? blowU and texas tech both play Div-IAA teams as a matter of fact tech played two of them. The BCS didn’t create the mess its the Big 12. To let some other organization decide your league fate is stupid.

By UGA is so last year

December 8, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

The ACC has 10 teams in the postseason, the most ever for any league.

While the ACC has no elite teams this season (maybe 1 I can think of), it does have a lot of solid teams - and that shows with the number of bowl bids.

By War Eagle

December 8, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

IM4Bama,your message is correct about Turner McGill, Auburn has to be the worst PR school in the country with this and handling of CTT departure. Great SEC game, Bama was more physical than I saw in previous games. Tebow is best collge player I have seen in many years, he was deciding factor for Gators. This was my 9th SEC game and the best game of all.

By UGA is so last year

December 8, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

Final Sagarin Conference Football Rankings are in.

1 ATLANTIC COAST 2 BIG 12 3 SOUTHEASTERN 4 BIG EAST 5 BIG TEN 6 PAC-10

By ditto

December 8, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

…and the Big Easy is within a third of a point of the SEC. You got Florida and Bama in your elite, Ole Miss and UGA as also-rans, and then a bunch of scrubs.

By make my day

December 8, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

RE: ACC - No one from the universities showed up for the game, so they didn’t care. Are Floridians supposed to support a game no one else cares about, especially with such weak teams? Come on - it’s riduculous that they even have an invite to the Orange Bowl… speaking of which, who cares about that game either?

By make my day

December 8, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

By UGA is so last year December 8, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

Final Sagarin Conference Football Rankings are in.

FSU is the ACC top ranked team per Sagarin, and would lose to Florida (really!) and Alabama. Of course, they would also beat all their ACC opponents (oops!)… So much for Sagarin’s idiotic program.

Also, according to Sagarin, the BCS uses his ELO-CHESS rating, which is probably the stupidest one they could use, rather than the PREDICTOR. Why? Only counts wins and losses, not scores. Hence Gators end up 4th. Are public floggings with a cat-o-nine-tails still legal?

By Lou Vales

December 8, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

Dear Tony, Am even using my real name. Would like to ask you a question that I can’t get an answer to. I believe sports journalists can’t bring themselves to answer it. DOES Bobby Bowden deserve to be able to stay at FSU as long as he wants because he built the program?/ I say no. I say no, because that is not how this country works. There is not ANOTHER entity in America—Corporate, Educational, Non-Profit ANY ENTITY—that would allow a founder to remain in control to the point he was overseeing a dismantling of what he had built. FSU has named stadium after him, built a statue of him and commissioned a mural of him. Therefore short of sealing off a portion of Tallahassee and naming it Bowden City—modeled after Vatican City, what else can they do? I’m surprised they have not dressed up his unemployed coaching sons like the Swiss Guard to move around with him as he meanders around the sidelines. In the HISTORY of sports—pro or college—has there EVER been a “Coach In Name Only” who is disengaged from the coaching process YET gets credit for the wins which should be attributed to the “Coach In Waiting”?? EVERY great coach—besides Paterno who APPEARS to STILL be coaching his team—has known to step down. Shula, Brown, Walsh, Schembechler, Wilkinson, Howell, Allen, Robinson, Osborne, Dodd, and MANY OTHERS—and those in other sports—Auerbach, Holtzman, Smith, Carneseca, Taylor, Wooden, Allen, Alston, Duroucher, Murtaugh, Anderson, Herzog and ONCE AGAIN MANY OTHERS!!!! But not Bobby, who appears to be engaged in this Texas Death Match to be the ALL TIME Wins Leader. But, what people rarely mention is all those wins at little Samford—ONE of which was a beat down of the University of MEXICO. That’s Right!! The University of Mexico—NOT New Mexico. I impishly say to my FSU friends—who ALL want him gone by the way—that Bobby scheduled Mexico to avenge the Alamo where he was held in the siege but escaped as a child under the cover of darkness. He was getting back at General Santa Ana. Therefore if Bobby gets to count Division 1 wins at Samford, I would say Eddie Robinson gets to count his wins at Grambling and thus NOBODY is catching him. Sorry for being long winded, would like an answer. Know it’s difficult to call out an old man, however I see this as a driven act of selfishness for a personal record. Bobby long said “I will know it’s time to quit when we stop winning the number of games we are expected to win up here”. Well, I suggest Bobby check the record the last few years and also check his lack of participation in a Conference Championship Game for a league that many wanted to deny an automatic BCS bid to.

By Sweeter than Yoo-hoo

December 8, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

It’s just this simple regarding the ACC CG & the SEC CG ……………

screw the NFL; play one on Saturday & the Other on Sunday!

By CBT

December 9, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this

3. If Oklahoma wins the BCS national championship, a 12-1 Texas should get a share

Amen. Thank you for having it right.

By Gary

December 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

SEC Fans and Tex Fans: There’s no crying in football.

1/2 A Hundred By The Half

Boomer Sooner

By gwsat

December 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Mr. Barnhart predicts that Florida will defeat OU because the SEC has better defenses than the Big 12. When one compares the performance of OU and Florida against the highest ranked defense it played, though, just the opposite result is supported. OU scored 35 points against TCU, the No. 2 team in Total Defense, but Florida scored only 31 against Alabama, ranked No. 3. Florida’s defense is No. 9. Think about it.

I don’t think comparing defensive rankings of Big 12 teams to SEC teams makes any more sense than comparing offensive rankings would but let’s look at offenses anyway. The Big 12 had 2 of the top 4 ranked offensive teams, 4 of the top 8, and 6 of the top 12. Florida had the best offense in the SEC but was ranked only number 18, far lower than 6 Big 12 teams, 4 of which were in the Big 12 South. All of this stands for the proposition that it’s sound and fury signifying nothing so we have to wait for the game. It should be fun!

By AU4Life!!!!

December 12, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

This is an aticle about Fl/Ok and bammers are on here writing novels about AU recruiting. Talk about AUbsessed!!

Auburn will be okay. We competed when Saban was at LSU with a monopoly on recruiting and had a winning record against him.

We’ll still have the talent to compete against Bama and for the SEC title next year. Don’t think we can’t come out of no where just like Bama did this year b/c I’m sure none of you posters on here thought they would be undefeated this year (oops, I mean just SEC West champs; hee, hee). I’ve never seen Bammers so happy for 2nd place (does that count?). lol

Guess what Bammers. We sucked last year. Yeah ya’ll beat us but so did a lot of other teams. So we can say Bama beat a sorry AU team the same way ya’ll cry that Tubs beat sorry arse Bama teams when he beat ya’ll 7 times.

12, Fan, & saint nick is exactly why people root against Bama and their fairweather fans. Talk about the pot. This article doesn’t have anything to do about Bama but it does reference Auburn.

The HT goes to the best right? Tebow is that. The guy’s incredible. If college was like the draft, and those three QBs were your choices for 1st pick, I’m going with Tebow. Besides the other guys will cancel each other out, regionally.

The HT does not go to the best stat guy, otherwise Hawaii’s QB (Chang) should have won at some point.

OU/FL is a very interesting game. I think someone said FL doesn’t have a chance even with Harvin. That’s too funny. When that guy is healthy, he’s really the best in the country. If he plays against Bama it’s not as close.

I’m rooting for Florida, but this game can probably go either way.

Playoff Lineup, this year is a perfect example why that would be awesome.

Last, I didn’t watch the ACC champs game this year.