Mr. College Football

By D.Ellis

December 2, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

Looks like a great lineup of alot of great bowl games!

Waht ranks as some of the more intresting ones? Any thoughts?

GOOOO DAWGS!

By Gator Nation

December 2, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

SEC runner up goes to the Sugar Bowl

ACC runner up goes to the Music City Bowl

Any questions?

By Black Out Bob

December 2, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

It will be interesting to see how many UGA fans show up for this one. I am leaning towards not going to the bowl for the first in years. Business is slow and the season was a bust. Time for a reality check!

By addicted

December 2, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

@Gator Dawg: “Any Questions?”

Yeah… 6-4???

Btw, half of your support (the gators) are the ONLY thing the SEC can be proud of this year. The rest is all crap. Alabama will get exposed by Utah in the Sugar Bowl, as will UGA by the Big 10.

Unfortunately, Florida is too good and is gonna win the Natl. Championship, retaining a semblance of respect for the SEC.

By Oasis

December 2, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

I love it that the Big 10 and Pac 10 are being left out of the national championship game since those two conferences have been the biggest opponents to a playoff. I wonder if USC and Penn State would rather be in the Rose Bowl than the NC game. Good to see them on the outside looking in.

By Tony

December 2, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Hey Gator Nation,

You want a question……well let me give you one. Who lost to Ole Miss? Who beat Ole Miss? Wake Forest! Go shut up and play the Tide and I hope you get your dumb a* whooped! The SEC sucks this year with the exception of Ala and Fla and maybe Ole Miss on certain days. The ACC is the stronger overall conference according to the computers and head to head match ups. Your Gators are good but get your head out of your butt.

By JR

December 2, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

I question for you Gator Nation. Do you have your Sugar Bowl tickets?

By THEsidewalkfan

December 2, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Gator Nation:

And the ACC appreciates the extra bowl slot your sorry overrated conference had to give up!

By CUtigers

December 2, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

The ACC is ranked ahead of both the SEC and Big 12 as a CONFERENCE. Florida, Bama, and Oklahoma are individual teams.

By Knocks Culpepper

December 2, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

There are obviously way too many bowls. Some of these teams are going to finish with losing records. The only good matchups would be the BCS championship, the Rose Bowl, Tech-LSU and FSU-Nebraska (at least for old times sake). Nothing else excites me.

By ATL Sports

December 2, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Gator Nation - Let’s explain slowly since you didn’t understand. The reason the SEC runner up is going to the Sugar Bowl is because Alabama, I mean the SEC winner, is going to the National Championship game.

By Brian22

December 2, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Black Out Bob is a whiner. Man up, Bob.

By BuzzFactor

December 2, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

It’ll be interesting to see if Tech does go to the Peach/Chick-fil-A. They have never won in the Peach/Chick-fil-a.

1971 - Mississippi 41, Georgia Tech 18

1978 - Purdue 41, Georgia Tech 21

2000 - LSU 28, Georgia Tech 14

By Chris

December 2, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Tony,

Maybe you can answer this for me. Why does the ACC only chance to play on New Years or later is a BCS game. After looking at bowl predictions, teams from SEC, Big Ten, etc. get multiple (some up to 4) bowls to play on New Year’s when an ACC team has to win the conference. Any clue? I mean the best team that Tech could play is 7-5 unranked LSU instead of getting somebody like Michigan State or something.

By garry

December 2, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

it amazes me how Ohio State loses to every good team they play yet they always wind up in a BCS bowl because they play in a sorry conference with no playoff like good conferences do the ACC and the SEC get screwed every year with bowl games like Cincinatti and Utah wow that will sell tickets just like hawaii was exposed wait till Utah plays Bama or Florida thats why the NFL is watched more you actually have to win to advance

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 2, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

UGA gets an EZ bowl game again. HAHAHA. Play a team that is as good as you think you are. Try OHIO THIS YEAR BI#CH. REMATCH in the PEACH BOWL with UGA & TECH with 5 weeks to prepare. BC or VT kill the big east. SEC top teams against UTAH will be a JOKE 190 to 10. Clemson vs Nebraska will be fun and a gift to DEBO.

By IM4BAMA

December 2, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ll only be watching about seven bowl games this year. I just don’t waste my time with sorry matchups.

I hate this tie in stuff. I wish it could be, match up the teams to make for the best games.

Utah? Utah in the Sugar against Bama or Florida? C’MON. Please God, let it be Florida. It should be a Texas or Texas Tech in there, now that’s a good match up.

By Geori

December 2, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Tech is going to run for 400 yards and get 40 points on LSU, just like we did against UGA and Miami (both of which are better than LSU).

By BuzzFactor

December 2, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

We need some ACC bowl victories before we can really talk ACC vs other conferences. Let the SEC homers talk a little crap until we do. Because when we do, I’m sure we’ll let them know about it.

By Road Scholar

December 2, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Ball stae should have a higher bowl game. How about the Cotton Bowl? No disrespect to Mississippi, but 8-4? How about Mississippi in the Peach against Tech? Don’t they begin a home and home series next year?

By sickfan

December 2, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Tony,

Could Alabama and Florida replay the National Championship game if Florida barely beats Alabama and Missouri upsets Oklahoma?

By Dawg Fud

December 2, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

UGA struggles with MSU. we may have a chance to win at the end in typical, underperforming Bulldog fashion. of course, we could get drilled. our defense is just plain bad…wow. is rashad jones the most overrated player to put on a Bulldog uniform in 15 years? or is he just poorly coached?

i think GA Tech takes LSU behind the woodshed…the one in their backyard here in ATL. it is the beginning of the end for Les Miles and the beginning of a successful Paul Johnson era.

how good is this Bama-Gator game going to be this weekend? my father-in-law (a Clemson man) scored four free tickets and i finagled one from him.

GO DAWGS!

By JB

December 2, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

The ONLY reason I want the Dawgs to play in a bowl game is to get a jump start on spring practice and work on tackling EVERY practice leading up to the bowl. This time should be spent as punishment, not rewards.

By BAMA Roll Tide

December 2, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Have fun in the Crapitol One Bowl UGA! Do you think you will be preseason national champs again next year?

By Buzzkill

December 2, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

GatorNation,

6 SEC teams are ranked below Duke. Any questions?

By bank walker

December 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

I hope all southern teams (SEC & ACC) do well against the rest of the country. Good luck everyone!

By dawgs24/7

December 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

So after a fantastic season Alabama will get “rewarded” by playing Utah….thats horrible…as a Georgia fan I can relate as we had to play stinking Hawaii last year.

By Dawg Fud

December 2, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

BAMA Roll Tide

i would worry less about Georgia and more about the Gators.

do you think you will be national champs this year? you got two big games ahead you so i would not be so quick to spout off through your snout/trunk.

good luck in the SEC Championship game.

By GTMike

December 2, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Road Scholar…Ole Miss was indeed scheduled to play Ga Tech in a home and home, but like Auburn and many other SEC teams, has decided they want no piece of GT under Paul Johnson, and has opted to delay these games until…well, until Johnson is no longer our coach (however long that takes) LOL.

“Mighty” SEC…at least UGa has the nads to play us each year…other SEC teams duck the tough competition. C’mon, their entire 12 team conference played a grand total of 15 BCS teams this year (essentially 1 game per team) outside the SEC (and they lost 9 of those 15 games).

By Josh M

December 2, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

One real game and a whole lot of exhibitions. I’m not impressed.

By jabster

December 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Peach/CFA Bowl is the only bowl that Tech has played in more than once and never won…but CPJ broke the FSU jinx, the UGA jinx, and now he’s gonna break the Peach Bowl jinx.

Next year the UVA-in-Charlottesville jinx goes down as we will have payback x 2 as they kept us out of the ACCCG twice.

Props to the SEC for Bama and Florida, either of whom could beat anyone, anywhere. But the ACC is 6-1 against the rest of the SEC…and the 1 was NCSU losing to SC before the Wolfpack got it together. Even taking away Tech and BC (the ACC’s top 2 ranked teams), it’s still 4-1 ACC over SEC.

How many other conferences have TEN bowl teams?

Dawg Fud: SECCG is going to be awesome and a close game. ACCCG, not so much. BC will KILL the Hokies (because the Eagles are hot and the Hokies are not) and, yes, there will be an attendance issue (moreso on the BC side as VT travels very well). That’s why the ACC loser may drop down to the Music City, especially if it is BC.

By kw

December 2, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

The next three years are gonna be tough here in the south. Tech, Miami and UNC are three of the youngest teams in the country. Im not sure if Miami can be fixed by Shannon but Tech and UNC are going to take care of this whole ACC/SEC p** contest… Good times ahead Jackets!!!!

By Scott "Phillip" Wallace

December 2, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Dawg Fud - Bama is looking alot better in ‘09 than your puppies are! So do “not be so quick to spout off through your snout/trunk”.

By CTB

December 2, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

ALA vs FLA will not be close, no matter who wins. Whichever style of play is dominant will rule the day big time.

But, look for ALA DB’s to play tight (no cushion) vs FLA receivers as ALA has done all year. And, for ALA to get to Tim with the rush. Cody will take 2 blockers…

When has a spread offense won vs an elite power type team? Spread is great for running up big points against lesser teams who cannot match up vs each receiver. Remember what Nebraska did vs FLA and TENN?

Roll Tide!

PS - GT (my school) shocked in big game last Saturday!! Look for BAMA to do same this Saturday.

By GatorG

December 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

GTMike,

I’d like to point out that Florida played both Miami and FSU, and smoked them both.

I actually think it’s great that Tech is doing well right now, but enjoy it while you can. PJ will only be in Atlanta two years, if not just one.

By Najeh Davenpoop

December 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Alabama exposed by Utah???? Addicted- you are addicted… to crack.

By jabster

December 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Bank Walker:

You said a mouthful. ALL SEC or ACC teams need to man up and TCB. Particularly if you’re playing the Big 10+1 or Pac-10. Let’s show the nation who the poser conferences are.

Remember—Sagarin has the ACC as #1 and the SEC as #3. ACC needs to maintain that slot and the SEC needs to move up to #2.

By wes the party boy

December 2, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

i hear wal mart is already selling the 2009 Capitol One Bowl shirts for all you dawwg fans.

By BuzzFactor

December 2, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Look for GT to find it’s way into the Chick-fil-A kick-off games as well. I’d be looking at that being in 2010. Just a guess but I think VT is next year vs maybe Alabama gain, so I’d look for the Jackets to be offered that soon.

By mcdawg

December 2, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

why does it seem that the Sugar Bowl always gets the least interesting match up?

By murfdawg

December 2, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

If UGA were 10-2 going to the Cap One bowl, I would be excited. But spending that much money and time to watch a roller derby shoulder tackling team try to stop a great running back is not high on my list. I do enjoy watching Stafford, Moreno, MoMass and Green, but R Jones and Ellerbee are not worth the trip. I will be home this year(made the last two bowl games) watching and hoping the Dawgs can get to 10 wins.

Think about this. Martinez had two weeks to prepare for Dwyer and HELD him to 214 yards. With four weeks to prepare for Ringer, he may be able to hold him to 400 yards. But the Dawgs will win 63-60.

By BCSSUX

December 2, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

I am not a UGA fan or a GT fan. I prefer the SEC but acknowledge that we have had a horrible year. My BIGGEST gripe is that Boise State is getting hosed. Undefeated, ranked in BOTH top 10 polls, and they get stuck in Idaho to play. That is WRONG. You can debate whether or not they deserve a BCS slot (which I think they do and I bet Oklahoma would agree with you) but at the least they deserve a quality bowl trip for their season. This tie-in stuff is a joke. I believe that if your conference champ is not in the top 12, you should forfeit your BCS to an at-large team.

This is why everybody loves the NCAA tournament. The little guy ALWAYS gets a shot every year. Davidson, George Mason, and UAB are just 3 examples of stories EVERYBODY loved in the last few years. Does everybody not realize that NON-BCS schools are 2-1 in BCS games? Limiting scholarships has evened the playing field more. BCS teams avoid these threats like the plague. It is sad that a school can run the table and get nothing for it. I feel for Ball State and even more so for Boise. A trip to Florida for New Year’s is the LEAST that they should be getting.

By GT GRAD

December 2, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

The ACC will have 10 teams participating in Bowl games and the SEC will only have 6 bowl teams……the ACC is ranked as the #1 conference in NCAA Football…….the ACC has played the toughest schedule of all conferences…….the ACC is 6-4 head to head with the SEC and 6-1 head to head if you exclude the games involving Florida & Alabama.

Where is all of the “ACC is weak” crap we have had to listen to all freak’n year?

Go GT!

By Hairy Dawg

December 2, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

The Dawgs shouldn’t have a problem with Michigan State. Unless the Spartans run the option against ‘em, the Dawgs should win by a couple of TDs.

By JQDogUNC

December 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Where are all those bulldog fans that used to lurk on the tech site talking smack? I got into it with one of them this summer. I am so proud of the ACC jackets for beating SEC uga as I know that jerk from the summer was one arrogant sec fan. ACC kicked butt last Saturday, 3-1 vs the MIGHTY SEC. And we still get no respect in the media for last weekend, at least that I’ve seen. Not to mention 6-4 overall this season vs the MIGHTY SEC! National Champs? Not even close.

Also got a beef with a tech poster referring to their 3 losses as being against “inferior” teams. As one of the “inferior” teams that beat them, I take offense. Play the what if game, if TJ Yates doesn’t get hurt against VT, Brandon Tate doesn’t tear his ACL, I’m thinking UNC is at LEAST 10-2. But we didn’t have them and still beat a “superior” team. Yeah, right. We finished where predicted in preseason: 2nd in the ACC Coastal.

Finally, the ACC must be stronger than given credit for cause all our losses were in the ACC.

Go Heels! Go Tech! Go ACC!

By Who cares...

December 2, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

… UGA gave up 41, 49, 38, 38, and 45 points this year, and no coaching changes will be made! And, we open AT Oklahoma State next year! They may score a 100!

By BuzzFactor

December 2, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

BCSSUX - there is one flaw in the “conference champ is not in the top 12, you should forfeit your BCS” statement. The BCS is involved in the voting and would make sure all conference champs are at least top 12. Another example of how the system is bad. The only way to fix the BCS is to Boycott all BCS bowls, and that will never happen, from a school or fan standpoint. The conferences are power hungry and will not sever ties to the BCS bowls and can’t part with the history of it. That plus money. It will take one conference to step up for it’s team and break the deal that is in place. Will that EVER happen?

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

To u tech fans another year not playing on New Years day. The Capital One bowl is a better march up for UGA and the new year at Disney is great. U UGA fans that say you will not go to the bowl game that is sad! I support my team win or lose. Ten wins is a great year. U ACC fans that say your conference is better remember NC will be in the SEC three years in a row and the ACC cannot even get in the game. If they do away with the tie ins the ACC would not have a team in the BCS this year. The ACC champ should not drop to the Music City or a low bowl game like that it is crazy and wrong! I also think its funny somebody said they wanted tech in the Chickfila kickoff game you guys cannot even sellout your own stadium thats seats 20,000 less people than the dome that is funny. GO DAWGS!!!!!!

By bama12titles

December 2, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

The ACC runnerup goes to the Music City bowl? I think that if ACC fans need to be ticked off they need to look to the bowl selection committees first. That is a total lack of respect and a slap in the face. Don’t blame us SEC fans for this one. The idea that your runner up goes to such a crappy bowl is an indication of what all the bowl committees perception is of the ACC. That is just a fact. Oh, I forgot to mention the fact that the bowl committees consider LSU at 7-5 to be an equal matchup with GA. Tech at 9-3 in a bowl game again reiterates the bowl committee’s perceptions of the ACC. Don’t blame me. This is just what the bowl committees think.

Look at UGA. They had what they consider to be a disappointing season at 9-3 and they are going to a respectable new years day bowl. Say what you will about the capital one but if you didn’t make a BCS bowl then a new years day bowl in sunny Florida is clearly the next best thing. I’ld much rather be UGA and go to the cap. 1 then the music city bowl.

Now I know all you ACC fans are going to whine and talk about how you won 6-4 head to head and all the bowl eligible teams you have and all that stuff. I’m not disagreeing with you.

I think the ACC does deserve a modicum of respect for having a lot of bowl eligible teams. They are deeper than the SEC this year which is having a down year due to the various qb issues at LSU, UT, and Auburn.

The SEC will be back soon enough but in the meantime I will say the ACC is deeper this year. Go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for being deeper than the SEC for one single year.

That being said you need to now understand that all you have is a bunch of average teams and hence the parity. You do not have a single team that has superpower status this year like the SEC does in FLA and Bama or like the BIG 12 in Tex.,OU, and Tex. Tech or the Pac 10 in USC or the Big 10 in Penn ST. Here we have one undefeated team and a lot of superb 1 loss teams. Something the ACC does not have and hasn’t had in awhile.

Respect is earned over time. Not over one season. The SEC has won the last 2 bcs titles, 3 of the last 5, Auburn had a perfect season in 04 and got left out, and UGA was a runnerup twice in the last 6 years. The SEC has yet another chance at a national title and if Bama or Fla. win the nat’l title then we are talking 3 bcs titles in a row and 4 out of the last 6. That is total dominance and you just can’t argue with that.

The SEC has consistently outperformed every other conference in overall winning % and in bowl winning % and the sheer number of teams going to bowls. Last year we sent a record 9 teams and won 7. What did the ACC do? Don’t even bother trying to compare the ACCs accomplishments to the SEC’s success over the past 5 years. It aint even close. And don’t look at the intrastate rivalries between sec and acc counterparts. UF has completely dominated FSU. And while Tech beat UGA this year UGA has won 7 of the last 8. Clemson has had an edge over Carolina and that’s pretty much it.

So the bottom line is that I will give some credit to the ACC this year for being better from the middle to the bottom than the SEC. Let’s talk after the bowl games to see if you can keep it up. Then next year let’s see if you can be successful an entire 2 years in a row.

By Miles

December 2, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Nothing too exciting today…

By Born2Buzz

December 2, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Tony (or anybody else - I don’t think Tony ever reads the posts or responds), which BCS games get the selections in what order? Does it have to do with which conference teams go to the CG?

By SEC=Over Exsagerated

December 2, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

I don’t like all the tie-ins and stuff like that either. I think each match-up should try to be the best possible. SEC teams never try to schedule and travel to play other top BCS teams. I would love to see UGA or UF or Bama play a team like USC or Texas or OU and that way you can really see who the top teams are. Georgia-Hawaii last year? Are you kidding? Should have been UGA-USC in the Rose Bowl last year. What about Texas Tech or Texas or USC against UGA or Bama/UF loser this year?

By tech

December 2, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

southsidedawg. 45-42

By bb

December 2, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

ACC #9 team Eagle Bank Bowl ACC #10 team Motor City Bowl

SEC #9 team stays home SEC #10 team stays home

Any questions??

By Falcon Fan

December 2, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

JB——You could practice till the cows come home. if you an’t got it you just an’t got it PE.

By BuzzFactor

December 2, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

southside Dawg. I think we could sell half of the dome out you idiot! Did you fail math in the 6th grade the year before you dropped out of school? The Chick-Fil-A kickoff committee has already mentioned this year that they want to work UGA and Tech into the Kickoff game. And as far as the Cap1 bowl, I hope you guys do get a good bowl, but we’d rather beat another SEC team in the CFA bowl!

By George

December 2, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

Bama12titles…

Can one of you damn SEC fans actually do a little research before you make yourself look like an idiot?

The CFA bowl gets the second ACC pick, including the BCS teams.

The CFA bowl also gets the fifth SEC pick, including the BCS teams.

How exactly does that make LSU and Ga Tech equal?

By G8R GRAD

December 2, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

UTAH?!!!!!!

You must be kidding. Didn’t the UGA/Hawaii debacle last year teach anyone anything?

They don’t stand a chance! UA/UF will destroy the Utes! Same goes for OSU, They choked on every big game they played this season - and they’ll do it again in Tempe.

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

tech 7 out of 8 tech never has played in any BCS bowl and why dont you guys ever play Georgia Southern

By George

December 2, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Oh, and Bama12titles…

We get that the SEC has been better in the past.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR.

Is that too hard to understand?

The ACC is better than the SEC this year, straight up…even if the National Champion comes from the SEC.

By jabster

December 2, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Bama12titles wrote:

“Oh, I forgot to mention the fact that the bowl committees consider LSU at 7-5 to be an equal matchup with GA. Tech at 9-3 in a bowl game again reiterates the bowl committee’s perceptions of the ACC.”

Top 6 teams in the SEC by record: Bama (12-0, 8-0): BCS bowl Florida (11-1, 7-1): BCS bowl Georgia (9-3, 6-2): no rematch allowed Ole Miss (8-4, 5-3) South Carolina: (7-5, 4-4) LSU: (7-5, 3-5)

The top 3 teams in the SEC cannot play Tech. That leaves Ole Miss (which IMO would be a better matchup, but the Cotton Bowl has priority over the Peach), South Carolina, and LSU.

All three of these teams are within a game of each other. Even though LSU has a worse SEC record than SC, they are the defending national champs, travel better than LSU, would rent more hotel rooms, and spend more money than SC. LSU is a more “marquee” team than SC. Additionally, SC is coming up on Tech’s OOC sked (as is Ole Miss in 2010), so that may also be a factor.

If the CFA picks Tech and LSU, that would provide a good combination of local butts in seats during a poor economy, plus a team that travels well.

By BuzzFactor

December 2, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Bama12 at least has some sense. The ACC needs some postseason respect before we can talk too much. This year in the ACC it’s not amazing the loser of the CCG will fall to the Music city because of the parity in the league. Last year the SEC runner up dropped to the Outback, not quite as far but still a similar fall in a similar situation. It will take a year or so with good bowl performances to keep the trend going.

By Ben

December 2, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Where is Boise State going? I don’t see them in the Fiesta or the Boise Bowl projection. Hopefully, they will get a quality game.

By Born2Buzz

December 2, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

I suspect the ACC will do quite nicely in the bowls. And I suspect the SEC will not do so well (or the PAC 10)

Yes, Bama12, the ACC does not have the bowl tie-ins that the SEC does, and that is based on the bowl committee perceptions and past performances. Unfortunately, the SEC teams this year, other than Bama, Fla and UGA are just not very good and they will have some bad match-ups.

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

buzzfactor The dome seats around 80,000 and tech seats around 57,000 sorry should have been 23,000 instead of 20,000. UGA does not want to play in the kickoff because UGA makes more money in Athens than in GA dome. Plus every other year the UF game is considered a home game. It was great that you guys finally beat UGA now it will be fun again.

By bb

December 2, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

The reason bama12titles doesn’t want you to compare the ACC’s performance over the last 5 years to the SEC’s, is because you might find it tells a completely different story than SEC fans like to hear.

Consider, 2003 thru present, the SEC is 24-13 in bowl games to 19-17 for the ACC - SEC slight edge, but ACC performance is not dismal.

2003 thru present against BCS OOC opponents the SEC was 59-54 and the ACC was 72-70 - edge neither, but it is obvious the ACC plays higher quality OOC schedules than the SEC.

So, the ACC compares nicely over the last 5 years (the SEC would get the slight edge due to better bowl performance) and that includes two, admittedly, very down years in 2006 and 2007 (remove those two years and the ACC looks very good). It also, covers 5 years when the SEC has experienced uncommon success.

Not the difference you would expect. And if you back up to include the last 10 years, ALL the actual records swing in the ACC’s favor (including bowl record).

By .....Republican for Jim Martin

December 2, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

I hope Missouri upsets Bob Stoops and his run up the score style points Okie team.

By tech

December 2, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

southsidedawg. Since all the UGA people are now hung on the 7 year win history & since it has been snapped all I hear is blah, blah, blah we won senven years in a row, bout’ time y’all won one, to me your mouths are about as good as a cum receptical. National championship teams? Tech: 1990 national champions UGA: 1980 And by the way I live in Statesboro and GSU blows. Didn’t even make it to the playoffs, shame. All UGAs fans hate on us about Gardner Webb, that is cool, let me ask you this to wrap up your mind, how does it feel to get beat by a team that beat Gardner Webb 10-7? See you in the ATL next year homie.

By BuzzFactor

December 2, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

southside Dawg, my point is Tech can sell HALF of the dome out. Season ticket sales will finally improve for us next year, with Chan gone and Johnson proving himself to the nonbelievers.

Remember folks, the CFA bowl has been trying for several years to get an earlier pick from the SEC.

I like the direction the ACC seems to be heading.

By BobinBuford

December 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Murfdawg:

Hate to tell you, but it wasn’t Dwyer that they “held” to 214 yards rushing - it was Roddy Jones. #20, not #21.

But Dwyer did go over 100 yards for the 9th time this season.

By TrueCrimson

December 2, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

The Problem with Florida

The Florida Gators have been forced to play style-point football since their mid-season loss to the Ole Miss Rebs. They have been very impressive in doing so. The University of Florida has fielded one of the best football teams in the nation this season. While their recent performances have impressed the national football pundits and led to the Gators being a 10 point favorite in Vegas for the SEC Championship Game, it has also taken a toll on the players.

In addition to being physically banged up, this Gator team must be emotionally exhausted. They have put everything into every game that they have played, big or small. The pertinent question for next Saturday’s game is whether they have any fuel left in the tank.

Bama, on the other hand, has been cruising through the final half of this season. When they moved into the Number 1 slot in the BCS poll, I was concerned that it could be the kiss of death for them. Instead, it has proved to be a blessing. While holding the top spot certainly puts a target on your back and provides extra incentive for opposing teams, Alabama has methodically dispatched all comers without having to resort to anything except their old-school, head-banging vanilla flavored game. All that they have had to do is continue to win their games in order to maintain their shot at the National Championship.

If the Crimson Tide has any razzle-dazzle plays hidden in the back of their playbook, then the Florida coaching staff certainly doesn’t have any of it on film. The Bama players are healthy, rested and ready for this game.

Florida is a worthy opponent. I believe that they are far better than anything that the Big 12 conference has to offer. Their offense can rack up points with the best of them and their defense is capable of shutting most teams down. I expect a classic SEC slobber-knocker next Saturday and the team that makes the fewest mistakes will likely prevail. The events leading up to this game have given the Alabama Crimson Tide a golden opportunity to upset a very good Florida Gator football team. I’m just glad that Bama has a shot.

RTR!!!

By Tony Barnhart

December 2, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

To the person who asked about the selection order.

The bowl that loses the No. 1 team gets to fill its spot first. If Alabama or Florida is No. 1 in the final BCS Standings, the Sugar Bowl would get to pick first to fill for the team it lost. It would take the SEC champ loser.

If Oklahoma beats Missouri and finishes No. 1, the Fiesta gets to pick first and fill for its lost conference champion with Texas.

After the two bowls who lost host teams to the BCS championship have replaced their teams, the selection order will be Fiesta, Sugar, and Orange.

Fiesta takes Ohio State because of the television ratings and because they’ve had the non-BCS team a bunch.

Sugar Bowl’s choice is Utah or Cincinnati. That’s an easy choice.

Cincinnati is left for Orange Bowl against the ACC champ.

Now if Missouri beats Oklahoma, it will get interesting. Oklahoma gets left out of BCS in favor of Texas.

By ....the Vatican

December 2, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

You did’nt mention 6-6 Notre Dame and their sorry egotistical fat-boy coach!

By GatorG

December 2, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

TrueCrimson,

The flaw in your theory is that, on average, the Gator starters have been taken out of those games midway through the third quarter.

Playing two and a half quarters of football hardly counts as, “putting everything into every game that they have played, big or small” and coming out physically and emotionally exhausted.

Don’t worry - we’re ready for you!

By Steve

December 2, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Four ACC teams in the BCS standings and only three SEC. Any questions?

By George P

December 2, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

I don’t know which to root for… Ugay getting humiliated by a run of the mill Big 10 team and the resultant petulant crying for an entire offseason, or them actually winning and the pressure reduced on Richt to jettison Martinez and fellow crony Van Halanger.

By GatorG

December 2, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Tony,

I hate to even think about this, but the way the computers have been working….

Is there a chance that if Florida barely beats Alabama that Alabama could still remain higher in the BCS (since both teams would have one loss)?

By Wrecker1

December 2, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Tony I think Ugag will beat MSU but Javon Ringer and Jonathan Dwyer. I’ll put Dwyer up against any back in the nation. He averaged about 20 yards less a game than Ringer on probably 10 less carries a game. If Dwyer played on an I formation team his average per carry would drop but he’d get the ball 25-30 times a game and put up 150-175. If Tashard Choice were back this year, as good as he was, he’d be splitting time with Dwyer in an I formation. DWYER IS THAT GOOD!!

By bama12titles

December 2, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Glad to see my post stirred a lot of responses from the ACC fans. Don’t know where to begin. I will respectfully disagree with bb about bowl performance though. 24-13 is 1 game short of winning 2 of every 3 bowl games which is substantially more impressive than 19-17 which is one bowl game away from just being 50/50 in bowl games. This is a big difference. As I’ve said I do think the ACC is deeper this year than the SEC but they have no true heavyweights that could stay on the field with Bama or UF.

The big difference between the SEC and the ACC is the number of big time programs that can legitimately make a national title run in any given year. The SEC has 6 monster programs that have the capability of putting it all together and contending for national titles in any given year. 3 in the west(Bama, Auburn, Lsu), 3 in the east(UGA, FLA., Tenn). Sure, Tenn, Auburn, and LSU are finally having a down year. But what I’m talking about is a program that has the alumni support, facilities, and recruiting base to make serious runs during their upcycles. No one can dispute the fact that these 6 programs have either won the national title since the 1990s or the ones that haven’t like Auburn(13-0 in 2004) or UGA have come extremely close.

The ACC has 2 elite programs in Miami and FSU that in any given year can contend for national titles. Sure, they are also having down cycles but my point is that no one else in the ACC really has what it takes to make runs at a national title in an up cycle. Someone might make an argument for Va. Tech. They did have that one season only with Michael Vick where they played for it all but that’s it. Clemson won it all in 1981 but haven’t been seen since. You can say they same about UGA for the UGA haters but UGA has come close several times, finishing 2nd twice in this decade. Va. Tech, Clemson, Boston College. Those are all programs that can have good seasons including 10 win seasons just like Arkansas under Nutt, Ole Miss with Eli Manning, etc.,but they simply don’t have all the ingredients to make a run at a national title.

That is the big difference between the SEC and the ACC. 6 BIGTIME programs that have the capability to put it all together versus 2 programs capable of winning it all. This cannot be disputed.

By GatorG

December 2, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

I said it earlier, and I’ll say it again: Tech needs to enjoy this time, because if PJ continues his sucess, he won’t be in Atlanta two years from now. (and maybe not even next year)

And that alone, my friend, speaks volumes about the “quality” of the ACC.

By tide rising

December 2, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

GatorG,

I would love to think that if fla. barely beats my beloved Tide that we would have a rematch since I’m thinking and hoping that the first game will probably be one for the ages anyway.

But if that were to happen. Say if we miss an extra pt and the gators win 24-23 I just can’t see them going for a rematch. The BCS would possibly still have Bama up there after a close loss like that but I just can’t see it. I think they would put Texas in there instead or USC if USC does indeed beat UCLA. Although UF certainly deserved a rematch with FSU in 96 I just don’t see that every happening again. If you barely beat us there will be too many good teams left to allow us to get a second chance at you. I wouldn’t be a big fan of rematches one game later anyway. Could you imagine if they would have had those 2 sorry@zz big 10 teams Michigan and Ohio State playing a 2nd straight time in 06 for the national title and excluding everyone else. Good thing they were exposed by the gators and USC as being punk@sses not worthy of a bcs title.

By TrueCrimson

December 2, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

By GatorG

December 2, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

TrueCrimson,

The flaw in your theory is that, on average, the Gator starters have been taken out of those games midway through the third quarter.

Playing two and a half quarters of football hardly counts as, “putting everything into every game that they have played, big or small” and coming out physically and emotionally exhausted.

Don’t worry - we’re ready for you!

GatorG,

Hanging 70 on The Citadel sounds like “putting everything into every game that they have played, big or small”. I know why they did it. They had to in order to get themselves back up in the polls. I don’t doubt that Florida will be ready to play — so will Bama! It should be a great game.

As I said, I’m just glad that the Crimson Tide has a shot. It took a lot of heart and discipline from this young Bama squad to put themselves in this position. I’m proud of what they have accomplished this season. This Bama team is greater than the sum of it’s parts.

RTR!!!

By D.Ellis

December 2, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

I’m jsut glad we don’t have to watch Saxby C. and Jim Martin adds anymore during game commercial breaks

Can I get a witness from the congregation?

By #1BAMAFAN

December 2, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

To all of the ACC/GT fans BAMA has GT on the schedule in the upcoming years and we will settle some of this then. To all of the GATOR fans and the BAMA haters my advice would be to wait until Thursday when all of the BAMA money comes in and drives the line down, then you can bet the farm. RTR

By GatorG

December 2, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

tide rising,

I agree that they wouldn’t have a rematch. My fear is actually that Alabama would be #2 and we’d be #3, so y’all would play Oklahoma instead of us.

True Crimson,

Actually, the starters were taken out of the Citadel game in the 2nd quarter. That’s the almost scary thing - Florida has been putting up these points because it’s been easy, not because they’ve left everything on the field!

By bama12titles

December 2, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

D. Ellis,

Amen to that and thank God we won’t see any more Saxby or Jim Martin ads after today!

By T

December 2, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Thanks Tony !! Great info !!

By KneeJerk

December 2, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Gator G- you stated an opinion/guess and then said “that speaks volumes about the ACC.” I don’t get it.

By tide rising

December 2, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Gatorg,

I see what you are saying now but I wouldn’t sweat it. If you win you go over us. Wouldn’t matter if you win by 1 or 40 you would go by virtue of beating us head to head. People are already incensed that OU is going ahead of Texas even though Texas won head to head. The voters wouldn’t allow that twice in one season.

By D.Ellis

December 2, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Did anyone notice on the one commercial where Saxby accuses O Bama and Martin for giving driver liscence to the illegals if voted in…all the pictures of GA driver liscence in the back ground……

DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT ONE OF THE PICTURES ON TOP IN THE BACK GROUND ON A GA DRIVER LISCENCE WAS A PICTURE OF….

-MOHAMMAD ATTA THE RING LEADER Of 9/11????

-Crazy huh…I suggest anyone with TIVO go back and check that commercial out I believe it was during the re-run of 2 and a Half Men…I was like holy cow they used a picture of a 9/11 terrorist on an add commercial for the Senate race!!!

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

To tech I do recall you have a split title from 1990 but tech fans refuse to talk about that and why havent you guys played in a BCS bowl. When was the last time tech played on New Years day?It was a great win for tech we own you guys the way uf owns us.About GSU its afundraiser for them that is why UGA plays them every four or five years. UGA likes keep the money in state than lets say Gardner Webb. How does it feel to play in the Acc that never play for the NC. Why did tech leave the SEC years ago?

By jabster

December 2, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

SouthsideDawg wrote:

“To tech I do recall you have a split title from 1990 but tech fans refuse to talk about that and why havent you guys played in a BCS bowl. When was the last time tech played on New Years day?It was a great win for tech we own you guys the way uf owns us.About GSU its afundraiser for them that is why UGA plays them every four or five years. UGA likes keep the money in state than lets say Gardner Webb. How does it feel to play in the Acc that never play for the NC. Why did tech leave the SEC years ago?”

In order:

1) A split title is better than NO title, or a preseason “title”. It didn’t help that Colorado converted on 5th down, saving a game for them and ultimately enabling them to get the AP title. See http://tinyurl.com/622tbl .

2) Re: BCS games, Chan Gailey and Reggie Ball. See the 2006 ACCCG.

3) Re: Gardner-Webb, Army bought their way out of our trip to West Point and we had to find a replacement in less than a year.

4) RE: ACC never playing for the NC, why don’t you ask Florida State? When is the last time UGA played for the NC?

By KneeJerk

December 2, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

southside- how does it feel for your team to be a milli vanilli fraud? Preseason ranked #1, smells like #2 now.

By Ted Stryker

December 2, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Bammy ain’t the only team undefeated in the SEC:

2-0 Ga. Tech Wake Forest

By GT42pups45

December 2, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

It’s ridiculous that Ohio State gets a BCS bowl when they lost all their big games, played a weak Big 10 schedule, and have gotten destroyed in BCS games the last 2 years.Why don’t 2 ACC teams get BCS bowls instead of 2 Big10 teams? It’s obvious the ACC has been the better conference this year. The best team in the ACC(Tech) isn’t even in the ACC championship game, so therefore they can’t make it to a BCS game whereas Ohio State and Penn State don’t have to play a championship game, so both of them are rewarded with BCS spots. I guarantee if the had to play each other in a championship game, then only the winner would go to the BCS. What I am saying is that based on the way Tech finished and based on how weak the Big 10 is and how horrible Ohio State is in their annual BCS dismantling, I would much rather see Tech in a BCS game over Ohio State (and over either VT or BosCo for that matter). GT’s record is only 1 game worse than Ohio State’s 9-3 vs. 10-2. They played in a better conference than Ohio State and are just coming off of a huge win over arguably the 3rd best team in the SEC (the conference from which teams routinely embarass Ohio State). SO for once, why doesn’t the BCS not take Ohio State just because they are the “mighty, historic Ohio State” and instead choose a better team like Tech.

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

To jabster ACCCG is not a BCS bowl game. Florida State played when? When was the last time tech finished in the top five? Still dont get why you guys wont help out GSU and play them every once a while. Plus Reggie Ball was an illegal player that could not past his classes but they let him keep playing football. Look it! How can a guy be playing on the team for five years and be on track to grad. Kneejerk UGA was overrated I said that before the season started because we had no leadership on either side of the ball because they grad. But to be 9-3 playing on New Years day considered a down year I will take it. Like I said before we have owned you guys the same way uf has owned us. I think it is good for the state of ga when you guys when every now and then.

By nick satan

December 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

Florida WHO?

By jabster

December 2, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

SSDawg:

My point was that although we haven’t played in a BCS game, our best chance was in 2006 when Chan and Reggie choked in the ACCCG against Wake. We don’t have that problem anymore. Reggie was not an illegal player; he started as a true freshman and played 4 years. When he failed out (which was later reversed and he got re-enrolled) he was off the team for the bowl game.

FSU played for, and won, the BCS NC in 1999. One > never, which was your assertion.

I don’t know why we don’t play Ga. Southern. I do know that we try to play only one FCS team per year. Sometimes it’s more but it’s not what we want (see my comment about G-W and Army).

When is the last time UGA played for the NC?

Get your facts straight before trying to cook something up.

By Hope springs eternal

December 2, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

Does UGA have any Tee Martin type guy that can step in next year? Stafford’s definitely out and if he’s smart Moreno should stay one more year. Beyond that, the coaching staff needs to get a helluva lot tougher on this team. Richt is a nice guy but all these fights, DUI’s, excessive penalties, and soft play needs to cease!!!!

By jabster

December 2, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

SSDawg:

Departing contestants get a copy of the Georgia Tech Athletic Director home game! Try your hand at scheduling OOC games for Tech! Existing games are as follows. Create your own exciting schedules! Long distance charges to other schools’ ADs are not included.

2009: Jacksonville State, @Mississippi State, @Vanderbilt

2010: South Carolina State, Ole Miss, MTSU

2011: Western Carolina, @Ole Miss, @MTSU

2012: MTSU, SE Louisiana

2013: Elon, Vanderbilt, @Alabama

2014: Alabama, Wofford, @Tulane

2015: Tulane, @Syracuse

2016: Syracuse

2017: Auburn

2018: Tulane, @Auburn

2019: @Tulane

2021: @South Carolina

2022: South Carolina

By wildthing

December 2, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

i thought georgia was playing jon bon jovi’s philadelphia soul….prelude to their entry in to arena football…martinez will make a great defensive coach as he has perfected the 2 stop per game defense…SOUL ROLL!!!

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Jabster:

You could have played GSU instead of Army, Samford, Jacksonville State, etc. It makes no since to not played them because they are an in state team. I am not saying every year but once every four or five. So you had to go back to 99 for the ACC the is sad. Which UGA did beat in a Sugar Bowl a few years ago with Musa Smith running all over them. The facts are at least seven players played illegally. When was the last time tech finished in the top ten?

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Why would I call your AD. You guys are finally playing some SEC games since you now have an old SEC guy as your AD. Plus, why did you guys leave the SEC years ago. Tech fans make fun of the SEC but they didnt want to stay in and play with the big boys.

By jabster

December 2, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

SSDawg:

This might help: http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/07-fb-media-guide.html

It’s only current through 2006 but should help.

DRad’s contact info is: drad@athletics.gatech.edu 404-894-5411

Why don’t you give him a ring and ask him about scheduling Ga. Southern? You can also ask him to send your congratulations to….

Paul Johnson for winning ACC COTY!!!

http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120208aab.html

By Vince

December 2, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Some thoughts

Tech won the freakin’ game by a field goal. The greatest thing about this is listening to their suddenly arrogant fans. Get a life!

Doesn’t destroying the landscaping of Sanford Stadium make the Tech players vandals?

The Orange Bowl is such a boring, absurd match up you would think it was contrived.

Egad! UGA facing another great running back team in MSU. Oh, the horror of losing to a Big 10 team!

I had hoped USC would have to play someone decent…perhaps one of those Big 12 teams….or Utah. Alas, again they will beat up on an overrated team and the media will think they are the greatest team on earth.

Regarding the Jim Martin/Saxby Chambliss commercials? Amen brother. Amen.

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Paul Johnson should win ACC coach of the year but Nick Satan will win it for NCOTY! Like I asked before why did u guys leave the SEC and when was the last time u guys finished in the top ten? The reason I am so big on you guys playing GSU is because its a money maker for them. The same way you guys pay the other schools. Plus, people dont understand why we play them every four or five years. The same way I dont understand why tech left the SEC. Since you have all the ads info why dont you ask him or do you like playing Samford and Elon?

By Hope springs eternal

December 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Does UGA have any Tee Martin type guy that can step in next year? Stafford’s definitely out and if he’s smart Moreno should stay one more year. Beyond that, the coaching staff needs to get a helluva lot tougher on this team. Richt is a nice guy but all these fights, DUI’s, excessive penalties, and soft play needs to cease!!!!

By jabster

December 2, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

SSDawg:

Trying to be serious…

I don’t know why we left the SEC. Take your pick among several theories that have been floated:

1) Tech got cocky and tried to be the next Notre Dame. 2) Tech didn’t like sharing bowl revenue. 3) Tech didn’t like the practice of some SEC schools that would sign more players than they had scholarships for (to tie up talent), and then cut them while not releasing them to play for other schools. 4) Tech didn’t like the SEC’s scholarship restrictions, because Tech had scholarship money and other SEC schools didn’t. 5) Tech didn’t like the SEC’s scholarship restrictions, which prevented Tech from keeping former players on scholarship after career-ending injuries or other issues. 6) Tech didn’t like the SEC’s failure to discipline Bear Bryant, after Bear failed to discipline a player who committed a personal foul that left a Tech player with a career-ending injury. 7) Tech didn’t want to play Ole Miss or MSU, or at least travel to MS to do so. 8) Tech didn’t want to travel to its share of SEC away games.

Some of those reasons are good, some are bad. I’m not positive on any of them, nor can I verify any of them. But Tech not being able to hack it in the SEC was assuredly NOT one of the reasons. If that were the reason, why did we keep Florida and Bama on the schedule until 1984, Tennessee until 1986, and Auburn until 1987? We had to eventually drop all of those teams to make room for ACC games.

I should note that Tulane left the SEC at around the same time as Tech.

We tried to get back in to the SEC before we joined the ACC, but the SEC said no (to some extent understandably).

By Pitbull

December 2, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

It just won’t seem like the Humanitarian Bowl without Georgia Tech there.

Maybe Paul Johnson will get a better job offer for Christmas.

By southsideDAWG

December 2, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Jabster its been fun today but I got to go vote now. Good luck in whatever bowl game tech goes to. Hope we can talk about football or other sports between tech and uga. Go DAWGS!!!

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

I found yellowblood and the famous ticklepile

He’s in the middle at the very being.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENuMxL6dHMk&NR=1

By William Thompson

December 2, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

A natural Chick Fil A Bowl match:

UGA-Tech rematch

By austin

December 2, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

GO PACK . EVERY ONE IN THE NATION KNOWS STATE IS GOING TO BEAT NAVY

By Supes

December 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

If UGA goes to the Capital One to face Michigan State, expect Javon to rush for 180 and 3 TD, as UGA loses another close game in the 4th quarter after the DEFENSE gives up 300 yards rushing to the Spartans.

If UGA goes to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl, expect Tech to beat us again and rush for over 400 yards again.

UGA needs to just decline their bowl game invitation, stay home and learn the fundamentals of football…TACKLING and WRAPPING UP, Playing assignment Football, the basics you are supposed to learn in HS

By Ed

December 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

10-2 Ohio State - regular BCS Game participants and blowout losers in the last two title games - to the Fiesta Bowl over 11-1 Texas Tech, which had a rare dream season and may not get this chance again for 15 or 20 years. And that BC-Va.Tech winner v. Cincinnati matchup in the Orange Bowl? Wow, that’s must-see TV.

Sounds about right. Isn’t the BCS great? I’m sure the country will be thrilled to see a slightly worse than usual OSU team play in a major bowl…again. And no offense to anyone, but unless you’re a fan, Boston College or Va. Tech v. Cincinnati should be relegated to ESPN Thursday Night football.

By Titan

December 2, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

THWG and the SEC

GT 2-0 against the SEC…. ‘nuff said.

Oh, and THWG and the SEC

By tech

December 2, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

southsidedawg. it doesnt matter it wont do anygood just say hello to javon ringer for me.

By GT76

December 2, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

I think Chick-fil-a and Truett Cathy are great for the city but I wish they would put the “PEACH” back in the bowl. That still really ticks me off. The Peach bowl was first played at Georgia Tech in the mid 60’s and was started by the Lions lighthouse for the blind.

Another one that is really strange in this economy is the “Capital One” bowl. If you have ever viewed their commercials you have to correlate their marketing to the credit downturn in this economy. I wouldn’t be caught dead using such a credit card with some strange picture on it. Just crazy…I’m glad GT is not associated with that crap.

By Wreckit

December 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

GEORGIA TECH DESERVES A ROAD TRIP TO A FLORIDA BOWL GAME. The Gator or Champs is more of a reward than the Chic-Fil-A down the street.

By AltamahaDawg

December 2, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

D. Ellis, was a difficult vote today wasn’t it…..the vietnam vet hater, steals from your grandma to fuel up his yacht so he can entertain satan, or the guy who endorses child prostitution and wants all murderers to walk free.

By A. Salter

December 2, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

I take exception to the negative SEC comments. Many consider it to be a bad year. Well, hardly so given the records of some teams that weren’t so good in years before. Maybe, it’s a change in who the better teams are in the conference. As for Florida, I’d match them against any team in any other conference and conclude that they’d win. Alabama has struggled on some wins but could beat any ACC team. There’s too much speed and strength on defense on many SEC teams. It is the toughest conference. And by the way, some ball control problems, a new coach, and a new quarterback all played a hand in Ole Miss losses. Let me remind you that none of their losses were for more than a touchdown. Go Rebs!!

By GT 90

December 2, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

You are right, Tech deserves a good bowl game but I would like to see them stay in Atlanta for selfish reasons. With family and the holidays, I would prefer to go to the game in Atlanta otherwise, it will be watched on the big screen in HD. Go Tech and congratulations to Coach Johnson.

D-RAD- LOCK THIS MAN IN FOR LONG TERM!!!!!!

By Charlotte Jacket

December 2, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

AltamahaDawg- I tried to say this a few days ago but my post didn’t clear the filters: thanks for pointing out the distinctions between black and white bones on the UGA helmets. It’s great to see a big-time program giving helmet stickers for academics. I hadn’t heard that before… thanks for pointing that out.

bama12titles- your point about schools with consistent programs is well-made. I think VT can be one of those programs, but I’ll concede that UA, AU, UF, UT, and LSU are all capable almost any year. If I’m not mistaken, all of those teams have won a title in the past 16 years. It may be taking a bit longer than we’d like, but I see that expanding to 12 teams with FSU, Miami, VT, and BC is raising the level of play in the ACC. The trend is in the right direction. At least we don’t talk about trading Clemson for Vandy anymore to have a pure basketball conference.

Congratulations, Coach Johnson: ACC Coach of the Year!

By Charlotte Jacket

December 2, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

Just to be clear, AltamahaDawg, my comment was absolutely serious. With the typical tone of discussion on this board, I realize that what I wrote could be read sarcastically, but I do sincerely appreciate it.

Peach Bowl for the Jackets! It’s not New Year’s Day, and it’s not in Florida, but it’s a green field and in the eastern time zone. Congratulations, Jackets! Rest up and get ready for the Tigers…

By Gen Neyland

December 2, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

Don’t have time to read all the wit, but I say UF-AL loser vs TT, TX, OK, or MO from the Big 12 in the Sugar…Not Utah, not a repeat of UGA-Hawaii..Let’s elevate the games. The Sugar is too good a bowl to be dragged down again…Boise State and Utah on a field of Blue would be the ticket…

By Rocky

December 2, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this

Tony see what you can do to get Georgia to the Chick Fil A Bowl for a rematch with Tech. These Tech fans are driving me nuts and I really don’t want to have to listen to them at work for a whole year.

By typical techies

December 3, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

I love all you Tech dorks! You lose 3 games and now everyone is afraid to play you, you are celebrating going to a middle tier bowl, and the ACC is the toughest conference ever! We lose 3 games and are p** off about going to the highest paying non-BCS game! You beat us 1 out of 8! Repeat 1 out of 8! 14 out of 18 (including the 3 you cheated in) You know how you make fun of us for being the Gators b***? IT’S THE SAME THING! YOU ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE OUR B***! Hahahaha, man I love Tech fans, I forgot what you were like when you win more than 7 games! Man I’m dying over here…next thing you know one of you might actually…get a date…with a GIRL!

By Jacketfan

December 3, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

GA Tech is a different team under Paul Johnson, ACC coach of the year!!!!!! Go Jadkets!!!

By Roy Kas

December 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Why is everyone always on Ohio States wood? Even with the last two losses in the TITLE GAME, they still have a winning record overall in the BCS. Oklahoma gets beat in EVERY bowl they go to big or small and no one complains or says a word. Is the Big 12 over rated when Oklahoma let BOISE ST. (they play on a blue field for crying out loud) beat them.

Why all the hate on the Big 10? The B10 MOST years has a winning bowl record head to head with the SEC. People seem to skip over that fact because ONE TEAM (ohio st) loses to the the SEC. The rest of the conference licks their lips at the the thought of playing the SEC. Penn St. and Wisky has very decent records (if not winning records) against the SEC.

Why is it that nobody says the Big 12 is over rated when Oklahoma gets beat by the likes of Boise St but cry foul when Ohio St. loses to the best team in the land. How does having the second and third place out of 119 teams make you a fraud? It sounds like a bunch of hatorade to me. I can’t wait for a playoff, so some of these teams play up in the cold and our players n fans can have a bowl in their backyards.

and by the way Tech fans. GT wouldn’t do much of anything in the B10. We love running based offenses. The triple option would actually play into our defenses hands. Ask Wisky or Mich St. what run based offenses gets you in the B10. I’ll answer for them; a few losses and a trip to a third tier bowl.

By ...dawgs got STUNG all over

December 4, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Ohio State is a fourth tier team in a fourth tier conference.-Georgia Tech would whip the Buckeyes easily.

By SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE plays real football

December 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Ohio State has an 0-9 record against the SEC in Bowl games,-what a joke.

By Ryan

December 5, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

To southsidedawg, The reason why Tech left the sec was because of 2 things:

“Dodd’s tenure included Georgia Tech’s withdrawal from the Southeastern Conference. The initial spark for Dodd’s withdrawal was a historic feud with Alabama Crimson Tide Coach Bear Bryant. The feud began when Tech was visiting the Tide at Denny Stadium in 1961. After a Tech punt, Alabama fair-caught the ball. Chick Granning of Tech was playing coverage and relaxed after the signal for the fair catch. Darwin Holt of Alabama continued play and smashed his elbow into Granning’s face causing severe fracturing in his face, a broken nose, and blood-filled sinuses. Granning was knocked unconscious and suffered a severe concussion, the result of which left him unable to play football ever again. Dodd sent Bryant a letter asking Bryant to suspend Holt after game film indicated Holt had intentionally injured Granning. Bryant never suspended Holt. The lack of discipline infuriated Dodd and sparked Dodd’s interest in withdrawing from the SEC.”

“Another issue of concern for Dodd was Alabama’s and other SEC schools’ over-recruitment of players. Universities would recruit more players than they had roster space for. During the summer practice sessions, the teams in question would cut the players well after signing day thus preventing the cut players from finding new colleges to play for. Dodd appealed the SEC administration to punish the “tryout camps” of his fellow SEC members but the SEC did not. Finally, Dodd withdrew Georgia Tech from the SEC in 1963.” Well, I hope this answers your question. The “Mighty SEC” did not play fair even back then. Seemed like they used every little bit to get an advantage.

By docshannonjr49

December 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

To address Georgia Tech’s withdrawal from the SEC:

Here’s the real story because I was an earwitness to Coach Dodd’s words.

I have to commend Ryan for his historical accuracy, except for one detail, Chick Graning was spelled with one “n”. As I remember, he wore #26.

I was 12 in 1961 and raised a GT fan for two reasons: 1) my dad was a close personal friend of Coach Dodd 2) we lived in Gainesville Ga neighborhood with GT great Billy Lothridge and he taught me how to throw the ball, so I know my stuff, in fact in 1980 I was on a plane to Nassau sitting next to Bill Curry and correctly named the 1962 GT starting offensive line. I was Coach Dodd’s guest on the GT bench in the 6-2 win in the mud over LSU in 1960, Coach Dodd had me hold his paper cup of Coke and he gave me his BBQ sandwich at halftime.

Coach Dodd’s post game shows on Sunday mornings were hosted by Ed Danforth and they replayed the Darwin Holt cheap shot many times.

It was a punt situation and there hqad been a fair catch. The play was dead and Chick had his hands on his hips walking off the field and Holt gave him an elbow to the chin, Chick collapsed and no one from the Bama bench, no players, coaches, or medical staff came to Graning’s aid.

Coach Dodd was infuriated at Coach Bryant’s refusal to discipline Holt, and neither one of them ever publicly or privately apologized to Chick or Coach Dodd.

I (age 12) was on the sidelines for the GT-UGA game a couple of weeks later and Chick was in a coat and tie behind the bench and his face was swelled and his eyes red as a boxer’s. When I asked him for his autograph I started crying because his face looked so bad and he cried too because he couldn’t talk yet and he let me sit next to him the remainder of the game.

It should be noted that the next year GT behind Lothridge beat Joe Namath and No 1 Bama 7-6 on Grant Field, Mike McNames scored for GT and Don Toner later intercepted Namath’s pass when Bama went for two to win. Bryant refused to shake hands with Dodd, and Dodd later admitted that suited him just fine.

A few years later Coach Dodd came to Gainesville to speak to the Touchdown Club and after the meeting he ate supper with my dad and a few other gentlemen and I personally heard him tell them the only reason he withdrew GT from the SEC because of Coach Bryant’s refusal to discipline Holt or apologize to Chick.

Years later my dad was playing tennis with Coach Dodd and I was there, Coach Dodd told my dad he wanted out of the SEC so he would not have to be anywhere close to Coach Bryant because he was afraid he might tear up Bryant’s face as Holt did to Graning.

I offer these memories in good faith, hoping to shed light on the truth and keep alive the legacy of Coach Dodd’s heartfelt conviction to honor and integrity.