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Big 12, not BCS, to blame for Texas-Oklahoma mess

Five things we learned over the weekend:

1.Big 12, not BCS, to blame for Texas-OU mess: Oklahoma finished No. 2 ahead of No. 3 Texas in Sunday’s BCS Standings which means the Sooners will play in the Big 12 championship game against Missouri. The BCS will get blamed for this because the BCS gets blamed for just about everything that goes wrong in college football. In fact, this is the Big 12’s fault. Their fifth tiebreaker in the case of a three-way tie in the division is that the team with the highest BCS ranking wins the spot in the championship game. The SEC has an additional tiebreaker for this situation that simply says that if there is a three-way tie and the top two teams are within FIVE spots of one another in the BCS Standings, then the head-to-head game between those two teams will be the tiebreaker. Under that rule Texas would have gone to the Big 12 championship game because it beat Oklahoma 45-35 on a neutral field back on Oct. 11. Remember how all of us screamed when Florida State went to the BCS championship game over Miami in 2000 after the Hurricanes had won the game on the field? Head-to-head competition matters. Look for the Big 12 to change its rule and adopt the SEC model in the future.

2. Something is wrong at Georgia: Give Georgia Tech all the credit in the world. They beat Georgia, dominated the Bulldogs in fact, to win that game on Saturday. I picked Georgia Tech to win the game because what happened is exactly what I thought would happen. The Bulldogs’ defense was not mentally tough enough nor was it disciplined enough to slow down Paul Johnson’s offense. The issue is not that Georgia failed to meet expectations. Expectations are established by people and people can be wrong. Georgia was a preseason No. 1 but probably shouldn’t have been after the injuries of OT Trinton Sturdivant and DT Jeff Owens. Still, there is something missing in the Georgia program. This team made too many mistakes and penalties and never got better in that phase of the game. Willie Martinez is a good football coach but a team at this level should never get beat after scoring 42 points at home. Head coach Mark Richt says that he is not planning any staff changes. But it is the job of the head coach to identify the problem and fix it. Richt needs to examine every phase of his program because there is something wrong.

3. Lane Kiffin is a big risk at Tennessee: Every time Lane Kiffin’s name came up with the Tennessee job I only had one question: Why? I wish him well and there is no doubt that the 33-year-old Kiffin will have all the resources he needs to be successful in Knoxville. But the resume looks a little thin to be taking over one of the great franchises of college football in a league that has four coaches who have won national championships. Tennessee’s press release says that he was an assistant coach at Southern Cal (2001-2006) and spent the last two seasons as offensive coordinator. Technically he shared that position and the play calling duties with Steve Sarkisian. Kiffin got the job with the Oakland Raiders only after Sarkisian turned Al Davis down. Kiffin gets credit for the recruiting structure at USC but the fact is the Pete Carroll has always been the Pied Piper who lured talent to that program. This may turn out to be a very good hire, especially if Kiffin’s dad, Monte, signs on as defensive coordinator. But it feels a little like Mike Shula to Alabama.

4. Mississippi State made a mistake: Sylvester Croom is an honorable man and so he is telling everybody that it was his decision to resign at Mississippi State. The fact is that the powers that be wanted him to make more staff changes than he thought appropriate so that he had no choice but to resign. Mississippi State had a bad season. No getting around that. But how can a man be the SEC Coach of the Year in 2007, leading the Bulldogs to an eight-win season, and then be shoved out the door just one year later? Croom took over a terrible situation at Mississippi State and got the program on a respectable footing in just four seasons. And as soon as there is another bump in the road, the new athletics director hands him a pink slip? Mississippi State is getting national criticism for this decision and it should.

5. Dabo Swinney is the right choice at Clemson: When Dabo Swinney, a former walk-on at Alabama, was named interim coach at Clemson I didn’t think he had a shot at getting the job full time. But he won over the Clemson players and he convinced me as well. Clemson was a different football team down the stretch. Swinney unleashed all that talent that we knew was there and at the end of the year Clemson was a happy, confident football team that is now going to a bowl game. In short, Swinney EARNED the job with his performance.

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By Larry

December 1, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

UGA was pre-season #1 but ended up playing and smelling like #2!!

By Mike

December 1, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

While I agree that Kiffin is a risk up in Knoxville, pretty much everyone that was possible was going to come with some risk. Could Kelly recruit? Could Leach’s offense work in the SEC? Outside of the Stoops, Sabans, and Mack Browns of the world, everyone is some risk. The biggest things Kiffin will have for him is his recruiting ability and the ability to surround himself with a great staff (something that often looked like Fulmer did not want to do). We will know in a few years if the gamble payed off but I would guess Kiffin can do better than 5-7?

By GatorGuy

December 1, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

First?

By Mikey

December 1, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Tony,

Damn right something is wrong at GA. Over 1000 posts this weekend on the blogs seem to indicate exactly what it is.

Coach Richt says that “sweat feeds the soul” and that he believes in “mental and physical toughness” so I guess someone better start sweating and getting mentally and physically tougher…

Simple really, isnt it ??

By Jason Cyrus Ohanian

December 1, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

As someone who went to Texas and Georgia this weekend could not have been any worse. I saw both of these events coming as Georgia is just not very good, the SEC is not very good with the ACC going 3 and 1 against them, and Texas was going to lose out on the tie breaker. It was like when you know a girl is cheating on you, but it does not really hit you til you find out for sure.
As to the BS, I mean BCS, they should not be a tie breaker for a conference at all. Conference championships should be determined in house, and not by the national media. I don’t care what you have to use whether pts, pt differential, having all 12 coaches vote, etc.
What is worse is that it is your most hated rival who you beat that jumps over you. This is a team that has embarrassed the Big 12 4 times in the last 5 years in BCS games which makes the Big 12 that much worse. Here’s hoping Mizzou does something magical. Also, I am worried that UGA will lose to Ohio State and that would be way more embarrassing.

By Who cares...

December 1, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

…I said it several weeks ago and I’ll say it again…

UGA is the Clemson of the SEC and Mark Richt is Tommy Bowden in Red and Black.

UGA was ranked #1 in the country and ended up #2 in the state (thank goodness we beat GA Southern); Clemson was #9 in the country and at least ended up #1 in SC, beating USC, SC State and The Citadel). But Richt is standing pat with his underachieving coaching staff - just as Tommy did.

Only time will tell whether Dabo is the correct choice at Clemson - he will be, if he can instill some toughness there!

By CBrad

December 1, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Sly Croom is a good man and will succeed somewhere. But, he was named SEC Coach of the Year because Miss State exceeded expectations last year by going to HORRIBLE to medicore. Kind of like Vanderbilt this year. Dabo Swinney would be wise to pick up Croom as a defensive coordinator.

By Jason Cyrus Ohanian

December 1, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Also for all the folks who say Texas fans are whining, y’all are right, but unfortunately that is all we can do. Plus we have seen that it sometimes works like for Florida in 2006. God bless y’all.

By GatorGuy

December 1, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Expectations are established by people and people can be wrong. Georgia was a preseason No. 1 but probably shouldn’t have been after the injuries of OT Trinton Sturdivant and DT Jeff Owens.

Sturdivant’s injury sure did not help, but scoring points is not UGA’s problem. Stopping the other team is the problem. If one player (Owens) is the difference between a good D and a bad D then the UGA program is in trouble.

There is nothing wrong with UGA. They are just UGA. Average most years with an occasional great year. Kinda like Michigan State in the big televen.

By sc

December 1, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Dabo Swinney is a joke, are you kidding me.

By RB

December 1, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

You can blame the BSC, specifically due to “style points” (running the score up)

with a lead in early 4th quarter, Texas sits Colt and other starters out and puts in the second teamers.

with a lead and 30 seconds left, rather than taking a knee the Sooners tack on “style points” for BCS

What happend to winning with class.

By Gene

December 1, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

The turning point at UGA was when Richt ordered the team to dance in the end zone against UF. He never ran a tight program in terms of discipline or academics, but when the coach teaches his players to cheat, he can’t hold them to any standard of behavior on or off the field. When a player finally kills someone in a bar fight or by drunk driving, Adams will throw Richt under the bus, although Adams is just as responsible. Fans who are whining about Martinez and Bobo need to put the blame where it belongs. One thing for sure, Paul Johnson has taken the state in less than a year.

By Wallace Smith

December 1, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

There is a three way tie with Texas Tech, Texas and Oklahoma. I think another game to settle a Division is a poor idea. Using the BCS is a better idea.

By IM4BAMA

December 1, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

I can’t stand the way Bob Stoops campaigns for his team in the media and he gets rewarded in playing games he shouldn’t be in. (2004,instead of Auburn and now, instead of Texas). Who is drinking his cool-aid? Texas is getting screwed royally.

Winning another National Championship at Alabama would make me happy, but to beat the two biggest A-holes in route to it; in Urban Meyer and Bob Stoops would the sweetest part about it for me.

Yeah, something’s wrong in Georgia, it’s there defense.

If UT get Lane’s daddy and I heard something about them getting Orgeron too. If you have coach O and Lane recruiting players and Monte on defense, then it may be a great hire.

Sylveter Croom is a pretty good coach. Unfortunately for him he had always had pitiful QB’s and this year, loosing defensive coordinator Ellis Johnson was a big blow. It’s a shame, but when you regress instead or progress, what do you expect.
Loyalty to his staff gets you fired. Look at Tubberville, he knows how to keep his job; blame your coordinators for his short comings.

By Alpharetta Dawg

December 1, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

It is up to Richt to make the changes necessary to win (whatever those are) and I have great respect for him BUT…for goodness sake I wish for once he would speak frankly about the teams performance and quit the spin…we have heard enough of that from the politicians to last a life time!

On the post game interview with Lauren Richt said “overall I thought the special teams played pretty good”…are you kidding me…other than the punter our special teams were terrible…aweful…pitiful. When Lauren said something to the effect of “it appears we don’t have maybe as much talent on defense as we have had in the past” Richt responded by saying he would not agree with that statement…are you kidding me? He also says the coaches & scheme is not the problem…OK help me out by explaning what else is left? I don’t expect Richt to call out specific players or even coaches in the media but for goodness sake please be honest and say our defense was horrible today and has been horrible ever since the AZ St. game! Please say our special team play overall this year has been VERY poor. Please say our team is VERY undisciplined because we have way too many stupid penalties. Again a little honesty would go a long way towards making us feel like you have a clue what is going on. God love ya Hondo but you went on a rant about the D saving the game against Kentucky and Auburn…are you serious? Yes we gave UK a short field a few time but the D got tourched by what was the 11th ranked offense in the SEC…the D had to make a play at the end of the game only because they had not made on all day!!! Again…please quit the excuses…I don’t think the sky is falling I just want everyone to quit being homers and give an honest assestment!

The bottom line is teams lose games they should win…this is not about the Tech game. The issue is in recent years our Defense has declined. Yes they had a good stretch the end of last year in which they beat a UF team that ended up with 4 losses…an average Auburn team with a bad offense…a bad Tech team…a paper tiger in Hawaii…probably the best win was against a pretty good Kentucky team at home. I am not calling of any specific coaches changes beacuse that is Richt’s call to make but Tony is right something seriously wrong.

By Dawggone-it

December 1, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

3-I’ve got a feeling that Tenn. will be buyin’ out Lane Kiffin after a couple of 5-6 seasons.

2-On CSS last night, Schabaugh (sp?) said it wasn’t the coaching, it was the players because they weren’t tacking. Newsflash!!! tacking has everything to do with coaching-It start in December before the bowls continues into the spring and eventually into 2 a days in August. It has everything to do with coaching!

Also, why is it that Johnson, Meyer, and Saban coach with a chip on their shoulder. Their teams also play hard every week without penalties and generally without off the field issues. I’m tired of seeing other teams teams fly all over the field getting after it play after play EXCEPT for UGA. Richt needs to forget about Black jerseys and celebrations and worry more about what the defense is doing at practice.

By baloney

December 1, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Boney Tarnhart: Kiffin may not be a great hire, but for you to say he wasn’t because he was not the real OC @ USC or that he got the Raider job because someone else turned it down is very much like saying Bobo is the real OC at UGA and that Donnan or Richt was UGAs first choice as head coach.Right?

By JB

December 1, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Not only Georgia people see the problem, the rest of the world does to. I read other Message boards and they are all making comments ( not trash talk) about the lack of Georgia’s D. Score 42 at home and lose to Tech. Coaching is everything. Common message from Tech folks on the blogs in the last 48 hours is Gailey would have lost this game. Mark will let Willie Martinez end his career at Georgia. Saban, Meyer nor Spurrier would bring Willie back. Don’t ever go into business with a friend and don’t hire a coach THAT CLOSE to you. I don’t think AD Evans has any power. Adams will feel the heat from the money side if this type Defense is played next year. 7-5 next year by the way. Love to see our group coached by Paul Johnson. They wanted it more. Simple as that.

By azcat225

December 1, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Is OleDawg going to show up and apologize for the multi-paragraph insult he hurled at Tony on Friday? Any of the others? Yeah, the check is in the mail, too…

When you have to resort to insults to make your argument, your argument isn’t worth making.

Congrats on going 9-1 this past weekend, Mr. Barnhart. I’m sure the blog will be overflowing with heartfelt apologies today.

By FlamesFan

December 1, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Head-to-head comparisions are the obviouse answer when there are only 2 teams at the top, but the Big 10 situation is because there are 3 teams at the top. And why is Texas Tech not ranked as highly as the other Texas and OU? Because OU destroyed them. So, what you are saying is that OU should be punished for beating TT so badly, and should have just squeaked by them so all 3 teams would still be considered.

By saint nick

December 1, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Texas is getting a dose of their own medicine, Mac was on every show RADIO and TV that would have him on in 2004 campaining for a BCS game. Now that it has jumped up and bit him in the A$$, they are getting screwed, lol, can’t have it both ways!! The Big 12 WILL change the tiebreaker system by Throwing out the bottom team in the BCS and go head to head, similar to the way the SEC determines a 3 way tie. Now, onto more pressing news. Kiffin could have all the coaches he wants, HE WILL NOT OUT RECRUIT SABAN, MEYER, RICHT, MILES, FSU, and MIAMI. The best recruits in the southeast will not go to UT. Bama will win SAT in the dome against a Harvinless Fla squad. Two Dline guys out, BAMA will run the ball right at the FLA D and play ball control and keep the FLA O on the bench. BAMA wins 28-27!!!ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!

By BV2

December 1, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

As a Tennessee fan, let me offer a little advice:

Phil Fulmer stood pat with his “buddy” assistant coaches as well over the years, even though the results on the field dictated and justified that changes should have been made. He cleaned his office out at UT yesterday and a big reason why was because he failed to enact and anticipate change.

Mark Richt will eventually lose his job if he does not address the deficiencies on his staff. You can take that to the bank. With Fulmer out in Knoxville and with the staff that Lane Kiffin appears to be assembling - Richt and Les Miles are now the “weakest link” coaches at the Big Six SEC football powers. I’ve always liked Mark Richt and thought he was a very classy man. But he had better wake up and see that part of being a CEO is making tough decisions in the best overall interest of the “company.”

By Jason Cyrus Ohanian

December 1, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

TT is punished in the computers due to playing 2 div IAA teams, and not playing one out of conference BCS team. They pretty much had to be perfect this year due to that. By the way, Georgia will not have to worry about losing to Ohio State as it looks like Texas will play them in the Fiesta unfortunately.
Can this get any worse. Yeah, we get screwed by the big 12, and now get to play an awful Big 11 team. It is the coaching, as Georgia has too many athletes to miss so many tackles. They sure played much better D under Van Gorder. God bless y’all

By Taylor

December 1, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

I don’t understand how UF isnt ahead of Texas. Makes no sense,

Anyway UF just needs to beat Alabama to be in the National Championship, Against Oklahoma… But what happens if Oklahoma loses, Who goes against either Alabama or Florida??

By bama12titles

December 1, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Tony,

Whenever I see Texas fans holding up those 45-35 signs I think of Texas Tech fans holding there 39-33 signs. It seems like Texas fans sure like to ignore Tech’s win over the horns almost as if it didn’t happen. They discount the Tech loss by pointing to the 51 pt drubbing Tex. Tech took by OU.

Well, it seems to me that a little consistency is needed. If you’re going to leave Tex. Tech out of the equation by virtue of that horrible loss to OU then why wouldn’t you likewise give OU more credit due to the the overwhelming win over an undefeated Tex Tech team that handed the horns their only loss? Just talking about some consistency here.

Texas has only itself to blame for a weaker nonconference schedule relative to the Sooners which ultimately was the difference maker in the BCS calculations. Texas played no one of significance in nonconference play. OU defeated the big east champion Cincinnati and handed them one of their only 2 losses. OU also defeated TCU which is always a helluva team and is either 10-1 or 10-2 not really sure. Doesn’t seem like anyone wants to mention these 2 nonconference wins.

I have no sympathy for anyone that doesn’t play a tougher noncon schedule and then gets left out of the equation. Everyone should have learned the lesson from the 04 Auburn team that went 13-0 but got left out of the title game mainly because of their noncon schedule that was an absolute joke. Stoops learned this lesson and credit him for that. It was the difference in this debate.

Tony, You’re also absolutely dead wrong on Croom. He will always be one of our alltime greats and Bama fans will always love and respect him. But 4 8 loss seasons in 5 years is flat out unacceptable. And in the one 8-5 season Miss. State won 3 games by sheer luck. They were clearly outplayed by the opponent but they had a few fortunate bounces of the ball that helped eke out some wins in games that they otherwise had no business winning. That season was just a mirage and most people that watched them pretty much knew that they would revert back to their usual 8 loss season the very next year. And if Croom came back next year he’s smart enough to know that it would simply be another 8 loss season. That’s the real reason he resigned regardless of whether there was pressure on him to resign or not.

By JB

December 1, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

BV2: You hit it on the head……Richt has high principals, and that works almost everywhere except coaching big time Div. 1 football. He should look at Knoxville and see where loyalty and lack of change got Fulmer. The sad part, Coach Richt, I’m afraid, will put that friendship above the State university football program he gets paid almost 3 millon dollars a year to be the steward of. You can admire that on one hand, but he’s paid to win 13 games a year, not to preserve friendships ! Willie will take him down. He’ll have next year to prove us wrong. If you enjoy 9 -10 wins a year, he’s our man. People hate Meyer and Saban FOR A REASON ! What ever it takes in their mind.

By Josh Payne

December 1, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Tony Jabroni, No mention of the beatdown in T-Town?

By old gold engineer

December 1, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

For what it’s worth, I was not pleased that GT’s defense gave up 42 points to UGA. But, I recognize that UGA’s offense had a great day.

By Dawgie

December 1, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

UGA needs to petition for an increase in the scholarship limits. It takes more than 85 scholies to compensate for the injuries + incarceration.

By JT

December 1, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

How can Swinney be the right choice at Clemson and Kiffin is risky at Tennessee? While Kiffin may only have a year of head coaching experience, that counts for something. Besides how much experience did Mark Richt or Bob Stoops have before becoming head coaches?

By Jason Cyrus Ohanian

December 1, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

How can Florida be ahead of Texas? Y’all have one win over a top 25 team and it is a bad one in Georgia who is number 17. You are actually only 1 and 1 vs top 25 teams. Not much of a reason to be ahead of any one loss team to be truthful. The computers are killing y’all due to sos. Texas is 3 and 1 versus top 25 teams including a win over the number 2 in the bcs.

By D.Ellis

December 1, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Taylor-I think that would be USC believe it or not.

By Rusty Pecker

December 1, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Of course their is “Something is wrong at Georgia”… they havent won a national championship in 28 years! Add to that a delusional fanbase and you have a total disaster. PAUL JOHNSON owns ATHENS.

By Tech Fan Since 1950

December 1, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Tony:

Maybe it is “Mr. College Football” who is wrong. He was wrong about Georgia in the first place. He is wrong about the BCS (the BCS is a fraud). He has failed to address the real status of the ACC, now ranked the number one conference by Sagarin (over the almighty SEC). In head to head competition over the year the ACC beat the SEC and the ACC has ten teams bowl eligible. Journalistically Mr. College Football has had a bad year, almost. He got the Tech win right (thank you!). Hang in there and maybe you can find a defensive coordinator that will serve you well.

By pjgreiss

December 1, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Has anyone heard about where John Chavis, the former Tennessee DC is going to land? Wonder if Richt could bring him in to Ga. Of course, that would mean off with Martinez and as we all know, that is not likely.

By sm

December 1, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Dont worry Tony… Lane Kiffin will build a staff that will make any NFL GM envious… By the way hows you resume looking these days?

By RJ

December 1, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Your comments about Croom being a good man is spot on, however after 5 years of a failed West Coast Offense it is either time to make changes to your system or find an OC that can run it the right way. The reason Croom resigned (forced out) was because he was stubborn and woudn’t make any changes—he was going to do things his way and it simply wasn’t working. The fact that we wouldn’t let McCorvey go is mind blowing. As an alum I appreciate his dedication to the program and his attitude toward doing things the right way, but watching 5 years of his pitiful offense (never ranked better than mid 90’s in the nation) was too much to handle. He helped bring it back, now it is someone elses turn to take it to the next level and that is what a proven HC will give us in Starkville.

By Dan

December 1, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Hey Gator Guy - tell me again what UF’s record was last year? Four losses, including one to Michigan - the same Michigan that lost to Appalachian State! That was the height of mediocrity wearing blue and orange.

By SC Rules!!!

December 1, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

RB;

Your comments regarding Bob Crapps and the Oklahomos are right on! But one thing I do disagree with, your assumption that he had any class to begin with. He’s as classless as they come! If the “laters” get into the NC game I am SO hoping Bama just runs their sorry a*******es out of the building!

Chris in Bama,

I wanted to thank you for your comments, I have been known to drink the koolaid from time to time but my friend shane#1 realls me back in. I have to remember that I’M A GUEST in this blog and as such to mind my manners. Well since we won’t get to dine on grilled lizard hope the Tide enjoys a mighty big meal come saturday!!

By Gen Neyland

December 1, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

As for the apparent choice of Kiffin, anything is possible at this point. Good things may come of it. I just don’t know. As I’ve mentioned 300 times in the past 2 and 1/2 years of filling space in the ajc blogosphere, John Chavis is one of the best DC’s out there. What I have only begun to complain about is Tennessee AD Mike Hamilton…I hope those complaints will be put to rest…

Gene

The ‘Dance in JAX, 2007’ helped to motivate the Gators this season. CMR and the Dawgs should be given credit for assisting the Gators rebound and drive to the GA Dome in 2008 and possibly, beyond. To parallel a lesson from my youth, ‘What gives seconds of pleasure today may reap years of misery ahead’…

By RAMBLE ON!!!

December 1, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Hey Tony, I see you gave the superior ACC 20% of your time once again…yea no bias here.

45-42 6-4

We all know what those numbers mean. ACC is the John McCain of AJC bias (but we still win)

By Dan

December 1, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Thomas Davis, Greg Blue, Boss Bailey, Sean Jones - all played for Richt and would have knocked Roddy Jones out of his socks - no matter who the coach was these guys were just great hitters. A guy has that or he doesn’t - if you ever played football then you would understand. One big hit from Curran or Jones or Allen or Bryan could have changed the game around -coaches can only do so much. Last year the attitude and agressiveness kinda just showed up when none of us expected it - it didn’t happen this year and we still won 9 with the 10th to come on 1/1/09.

By jenkins

December 1, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Maybe UGA will give Coach Richt and his Staff a big raise like they did the last three years.

By CMR

December 1, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

WITHOUT big plays by Momass, we would have been stomped! At least my hair looked good! Willie will be here for ever! We will be back to win it all next year!

By Rample On Sucks

December 1, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Ramble On and you other GT fools get a grip. You beat a VERY overrated UGA team congrats! Don’t quote power rankings and head to head records that don’t match up top tear teams. The ACC is still a joke…the ACC does not have one team that could play within 4 touchdowns of Florida or Alabama and you know it. Enjoy your victory of the Dawgs because you deserve it but please shut up about the ACC…you still suck!

By KT

December 1, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Tony, Seems most UGA fans think GA “lost the game”. I wonder if maybe GT simply “won the game”? This is good for the rivalry, the state and the ACC/SEC legacy. BTW, what was the head to head record this year ACC v. SEC?

By gator mike

December 1, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Tony is right on target with respect to the Big 12. The conference rule hurt Texas. I am sure the Big 12 will adopt the SEC rule. OU does not deserve a shot at the Big 12 Title.

As for UGA, many of us saw it comming in August with all of the insipid barking before the first kickoff. Yes, I am a Gator, but I have learned to be a realist over the years because all of us Gators use to think we won it all in August. We learned otherwise after the 1995 season. UGA fans were so fixated on the pre-season #1 that they lost all common sense with their barking, and Coach Richt bought in to a lot of the nonsense. Moreno is very-very good; Stafford is slightly above average; the UGA Defense is average at best (they were too slow for the Gators). Look at the first SEC Game UGA played. They beat a South Carolina team which proved to be an imposter as a football team, but the dawgs did not crush the lowly gamechickens. That was a sign to me that UGA was not as good as the ranking, but the dawg barking continued. Spurrier has lost his touch, and he continues to prove it. Look at what UF has done to Spurrier for 2 years in a row. That should be a signal to Dawg fans that you need to crush Carolina before you ramp up the barking. The Gators have their hands full with Bama, and I am not sure they will win, but we earned a shot at the Tide. What we Gators can be proud of is that UF got their act together after their terrible performance at home against Ole Miss. UGA fans criticized Tim Tebow for his breakdown after the Ole Miss Game. Perhaps Stafford & Company should have done the same after betting blown out by the Tide. UGA got snookered by their own arrogance and short sightedness. UGA should have looked at themselves in the mirror after their half hearted win over the gamechickens. Had Mark Richt and the team done that, I am positive that I would not have had so much fun in Jax this year. As long as the UGA fans keep barking and Mark Bradley makes his insulting remarks against UF, we will own the Dawgs. Yes, UGA will win one every now and then, but the time has passed when UGA will ever totally own the Gators again. UGA fans should listen to the sound wisdom given by Tony Barnhart. Regardless of what happens in UF’s last two games, I will always remember the game in Jax this year when the majority of the so called Dawg fans left the stadium late in the 3rd quarter and the only barking was from some alley dog in Jax running the UGA fans out of town. That alone, made my season. Go Gators!

By hold em

December 1, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Agreed the Big 12 should adopt the tie breaker rule, however, there are multiple arguments to be made, OU destroyed Texas Tech who beat Texas, I think the BCS couldn’t get any worse at this point

By kired

December 1, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Croom hit a bump in the road?? Look at the schedule - loss to LA Tech, a 3-2 loss to a down Auburn team, losing at home to a 6-6 Kentucky team, and getting not only embarrassed but completely shut down on offense by GA Tech, Tennessee, and Ole Miss - and you call that a “bump in the road”?? I’d hate to see what you consider to be a real problem. Add to that 5 years of having one of the most inept offenses in the nation, what else could MS State do - give him another raise? I respect the man and appreciate his hard work, but he can’t even put together an average team year in & year out. At MS State, we don’t expect to compete for championships every year - or even go to a bowl every year, but we would at least like to average more wins than losses over the course of 3 or 4 years - is that asking too much?

By CMR

December 1, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Gator Mike, you hit the nail on the head! Last week, all of our fans said UGA would crush Tech. Same comments before Alabama and Florida games this year. you would think at some point they would learn not to talk until after the victory. That is why so many SEC fans take such delight in Bulldawg loses. The constant talking makes our fans hated everywhere!

By DirtyDawg

December 1, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Well it’s good to see all the ‘rustypeckers’ show up to show out. Seems to me these are the same guys - certainly every one of my Techie friends were - that thought Tech had thrown in the towel with the hiring of Paul Johnson…gimmick offense, goofy head-coach, disaster for a ‘real’ 1-A program…my how the bandwagon has expanded. Well this is one Dawg fan that is looking on the bright side - maybe now I can get an even bet with you a-holes.

I’ve been a Paul Johnson fan since his days at Georgia Southern and expect him to do well at Tech for years to come - or at least until they have a down year and the ‘swells’ get restless again - particularly when their basketball team can’t seem to cut the mustard in the ACC.

We’ll take Mark Richt, thank you TB, and will do just fine. Nothing about Saturday’s game, or Florida and Alabama, that a couple of breaks going our way instead, wouldn’t have solved. By the way, the other potential ‘good thing’ coming out of watching those ‘engineers’ excavating some our hedge Saturday evening, is that Matt Stafford and Knowshon might just want to come back for another, parting, shot at you big bad boys from North Avenue. I’ll be bringing my wire-cutters to next year’s game - and there will be tickets available - to get myself a piece of the Grant Field ‘hedge’ (or is it part of the Bobby Dodd Stadium).

Welcome back boys…it’ll be fun again…and thanks for reminding me how much it matters.

By Double Dog

December 1, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

As a fan of both Dawgs (UGA, MSU) there is an obvious parallel in place. Croom was under pressure because he refused to recognize and respond to the obvious - 5 years of bad offense means it is a coaching problem - and do anything about it. Instead of making some major changes (all he had to do was hire a new coordinator) he decided to go down with the ship.

Now UGA is mired with an under performing defense and Richt needs to honestly assess its performance. A couple more years of bad defensive performances at key times will have Richt facing the same fate as Croom.

This would be a tragedy because Croom and Richt, along with Johnson at Vandy, are clearly the classiest individuals among SEC coaches.

Finally, remember that for all of his quirks, when VanGorder was there UGA’s defense always made the halftime adjustments and dominated the 3rd quarter. That no longer happens.

By VaVol

December 1, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Yes, Kiffin’s a risk, but no more so than any of the other candidates. It appears that he may be assembling the best recruiting staff in the SEC. If so, that’s a pretty good start.

As for Richt he is making the same mistakes that Fulmer made which led to his firing. Martinez should have been shown the door on Saturday night. Retaining underperforming coaches will haunt him in the end.

By Tim

December 1, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Tony, you have said that the BCS is not the perfect situtation but that makeing changes to a playoff will deminish the regular season. The BCS and with using the different polls have deminished the regular season now. The regular season game between UT an OU neve mattered. Yes the Big 12 was wrong to use this system as a tie breaker, but according to the BCS system the polls never considered this regular season game at all. The current BCS systems is STILL a popularty contest the regular season does not matter it is who is the most popular team and to be popular the coach has to be willing to sacrifise his star players and leave them in games that are well in hand to score enough points to win big. The coach must risk his starters in games that could be won with giving reserves and 2nd stringers needed playing time for further down the road.

If the powers that be are not willing and I know they are not to adopt a true playoff system with at least 16 teams then it is well past time to flush the BCS down the toilet,(thats what you flush down toilets), and go back to the old system of conference tie in with bowls and just let each poll decide who the national champion is. Yes you may end up years with multiple champions and no you might not have games were you can match #1 vs #2, but it will make the regular season more meaningfull and getting to the conference championship the most important thing there is. I know what your agrument is going to be that this is the case now, well I beg to differ with that. As proven by the Big 12 south OU lost to Texas by 10 points and they are going to the championship game. Polls are the biggest problem with college football today. There should be no polls released until aleast the end of Oct by and no conference should utilize any polls to determine who goes to the conference championship. It should be decided on the feild, if you have a three way tie, then have a play in. Utilize some sort of one day 15 minute playoff where each team plays the others with play starting at the 25 or 30 yard line. I know fans want come and money dictates everything. Can you imagine what kind of televsion viewship you would have if you had this kind of playoff this year to determine the Big12 south champion.

I know this is to much of a reality for college football to do and makes the game have to be won on the field instead of in the polls. Lord knows that the powers the be in college football want to do anything to take away from the pollesters.

I am not a fan of any of the three teams in the Big12 but I am know a fan of polls either. Poll voters are to wishy washy, they move teams around to much at a whim. If a team looses one day they drop them if they win the next they move the up. They do not have any consistancey to them, and lot of times they don’t even see half the teams play that they are ranking. It all boils down to who is the more POPULAR team not neccesarly who is the BETTER football team.

Really now does the regular season matter much now. Even if the Big 12 had used the SEC tie breaker OU being ranked ahead of UT still makes the regular season game between them null and void. Polls ruin the regular season.

By Bamafan

December 1, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Texas got screwed and the bulldogs have to change defense cordinator or practice tackling a lot!! The new coach at UT will be a good hire and I think the vols will be back in the SEC east race next year or the year after. Alabama is back to winning championships and it was great watching them destroy the tigers saturday!! Bama has taken the vols and tigers behind the woodshed this year and it has been a lot time coming!! If the crimson tide beats the gators thats great, but beating the vols and tigers is PRICELESS!! ROLL TIDE FOLKS!!

By Clueless

December 1, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Forget for a minute that GA was pre-season #1. Would we have felt any better? HELL NO! When could you ever feel better about not only losing , but getting your butts kicked badly by three of your biggest rivals?

GA didn’t beat any team this year worth a damn … certainly none in the top 25. When you see how bad were the opponents GA beat this year, it makes things even worse.

Hardly any team in the country played defense this year, but GA played NONE AT ALL! Erk Russell is turning over in his grave at how bad the Dogs defense was this year. Even Tech would have told you they wouldn’t have a chance if they knew GA would score 42 at home and still lose. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Richt knows how to recruit, but he doesn’t know how to hire or fire. He better learn, or he will be next. We all know how he develops these great personal relationships with his players, and even has unofficially adopted a few of them who have turned to him to be their Daddy, or their link to their god. This is fine as long as you know how to win and how to hire and fire good and assistants.

Willie Martinez nees to issue a public statement of apology for his performance this year, because it …. SUCKED! (No better word for it.) Mark Richt better learn that no amount of loyalty to your best friend is more important than hiring the ABSOLUTE best person for the job.

And by the way … if the offensive coordinator is in the press box because he has a better view of the field and can see each play and read the flow of the game better as compared to the horrible view from the sideline, then why doesn’t the defensive coordinator go up in the press box too? I know there are a few who do this, but Martinez is not one of them. If you’re still around and you want to do something different and better, Willie, go up in the box so you can see how badly your defensive boys are getting beat and how badly they tacklet. Next, learn about something that’s been around for about 35 years, called the NICKEL defense, which means inserting a fifth defensive back in obvious passing situations. Finally, teach your players how to tackle. Your players’ tackling skills this year were the worst I have ever seen at this level.

GA had two weeks to get ready for the Tech running game, and everybody in the country knew what Tech’s strategy was and what they would do … and we still got our butts kicked around!

By the way, this will be the pinnacle for Tech. The word is out, everyone knows what you do now, and NO DEFENSE will ever play worst against you than GA did. All of Tech’s opponents will now gear up to beat the triple option and force Tech to pass to win, which it will not be able to do.

CMR, we’re waiting on you to make some tough decisions. Remember, this is why you are paid the millions that you get from us fans. That’s a huge reward for what you do, but there is a huge risk that goes with it. You better make some changes, starting with your buddy Willie. We don’t care how loyal you are to him. Find us a defensive coordinator that knows how to coach defense.

And while you’re at it, Bobo needs to go too. He doesn’t have the seasoning to handle the pressure of play-calling, or the creativity to run a few twists here and there to shake up defenses. Look at the variety of Florida’s plays, and the way that Oklahoma (and others) uses its athletic tight end/wideouts, instead of the old big slow blocking tight end who hardly ever gets a ball throw their way, or catches it when they do.

CMR, if you don’t make changes, the support will start to dwindle, then you will lose your edge in recruiting, and then things will go downhill in a hurry. The recruiting is so critical these days. There are only 100 superstar athletes that come out of high school every year in the country. If GA doesn’t continue to get 4 or 5 every year, it will slip. And please … start with the offensive and defensive linemen EVERY YEAR!

By Miles

December 1, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

A 33 year old with no college head coaching experience head to take over the Tennessee football program? Absolutely ridiculous! Why didn’t Brian Kelly’s name ever get mentioned for this position? The problem at Mississippi State looms larger than Croom. What coach could possibly lure top notch recruits to Starkville when other, more enticing SEC college football cities exist, i.e., Knoxville, Athens, Gainesville, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, Oxford, and Auburn. Mr. Barnhart, your article on cbssportsline.com regarding Tommy Tubervile’s position amidst the historical coaching trends in Iron Bowl rivalry was excellent.

By DirtyDawg

December 1, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

To those that claim Texas should play in the BCS if Oklahoma gets beat by Missou…remember when you said that UGA shouldn’t expect to play in the BCS if they don’t even play in their conference championship?

By UGA to Blue Field

December 1, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

To the UGA fan that says he fears Ohio State will beat Georgia, NO DAH! Georgia is a mediocre team and it shouldn’t play against OSU. OSU only lost to teams that were ranked in the top 5 nationally and won their other games easily. Georgia struggled against any team that was any good, lost to everyone that was good and should play on a blue field. End of story. UGA is the most overratted team in history, they should be ranked around 22-25. Pre-season #1, what a joke.

By tell it like it is

December 1, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Why do you guys act like Bob Stoops is classless? You must not watch must football. I’ve seen 3 examples where he tried to pull the reins back in blowouts. When the sooners whacked Texas A&M several years back and it was 77-0 they basically were taking a knee at the aggie 2 yard line to avoid scoring to make it 84-0. Against Texas Tech the sooners were at 65 pts and inside the Tech 5 yard line about to put up 72. Instead of running outside or passing Stoops ran 3 straight dive plays between the tackles to avoid scoring yet again. If you know anything about football you understand that when the game is out of hand you simply run dive plays out of respect. You’re basically telling the opponent what you’re doing and if they are not going to man up and stuff a simple dive play then they deserve to be scored on again. Its also not insulting to the defense like taking a knee would be. Your giving the D a chance to stop an obvious play.

Lastly, on the last td that the Sooners scored it was on a play run right at the interior of the OSU defense which is once again what you are supposed to do in a blowout situation. It wasOSU just didn’t show up on the play. Some of you guys are just idiots!

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Richt is like the parents in the neighborhood that host the parties, buy the beer, and smoke the pot with all the kids just to be cool. Hey, A-Hole you are the coach not their friend. Yes, make relationships with your players much like my DI did with guys in the platoon, but we also knew the DI would kick our a$$ if we didn’t do our jobs.

By bull-gator

December 1, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

A few weeks back I made the comment that Georgia had the talent and the coaching but only lacked motivation. I stand corrected. They have the talent, but not the coaching or the motivation. I firmly believe the Bulldogs have as much talent as most of the top 10 programs. At this juncture in the program with proper coaching and motivation they would be in the top 5. Richt needs to take a very careful look at what’s transpired this season and make the necessary corrections. However, 9-3 ain’t so bad…especially when 2 of those losses were to the # 1 and # 4 teams in the BCS poll and the last is to a hated arch rival. Not bad for a season, but the loss to Tech was a real wke up call.

By Dawg92

December 1, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

I believe all of the injuries made us a bit soft on defense. Not much hard hitting, afraid of becoming #19 out for the season. Offense was incredible this year. Bad UF game with the turnovers, but this years disappointment lays on the shoulders of the D and the injury epidemic.

Congrats to Tech, but Tony, how can you call a 3-point win “dominating”?

By Toph

December 1, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

The fact is that the powers that be wanted him to make more staff changes than he thought appropriate so that he had no choice but to resign. Mississippi State had a bad season. No getting around that.

By definition, facts are based in proof which I challenge you to produce. Got a link?

By Fan

December 1, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Dirty Dawg, You are kidding yourself if you think this year’s performance will have ANY impact on Moreno or Stafford’s decisions to return. That is one of GA’s problems this year - no passion from these two. Moreno stated in the AJC interview that he had no “hate” for GT. How many Dawg fans would say the same thing? You can criticize Tebow and Meyer all you want, but those guys have passion for winning and passion for UF. Stafford and Moreno are trying to impress the folks at the next level without getting hurt in the process which would diminish their “value”. UGA recruiting needs to add a requirement to their list - guys that want to win for the team, the fans and and the university.

Again, no chance those two stay for anything other than selfish reasons. You can easily imagine them saying “To Hell with Georgia”.

By Lou Vales

December 1, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

If you believe in the BCS that means you believe in it for ALL sports—college and pro. You don’t want to cheapen the regulae season in MLB, NBA or NFL. Therefore forget the playoffs and have the writers who follow the teams and 6 computer programs match up the Red Sox-Phillies(Substitute your own choices), Titans-Giants(Whoever) and Lakers-Celtics. Same thing in NCAA Basketball Tournament. Scrub that and probably just go with North Carolina-Connecticut. Sounds pretty stupid doesn’t it?? If you say “Yes” that means you also agree that something else is pretty stupid.

By Doug

December 1, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

The best thing CMR can do is bring Sylvester Crooms in as def coord at any price. Coach Crooms will bring the maturity, even handedness, fire, and won’t put up with any crap. The players won’t know what hit them. That is what they need.

By BIG 12 Got No D

December 1, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

D.Ellis:

“Believe it or not”?

The Big 12 will lose if the play any team in the remaining top 6. Why wouldn’t you believe that? The Big 12 doesn’t play D, they score by the bushel because they don’t face any D. Florida or Alabama will beat them, USC would hold them to less than 14 points, and Penn State would beat them also, for the same reason DEFENSE.

The Best matchup for a NC would be the SEC winner and USC. USC has the best defense in the country, but are not consistent on O. Florida and Bama are both balanced, good top 10 defenses, and Offensive balance. Maybe Florida has an edge on offense, We’ll see on Saturday.

I just wish Oregon State would have won, so USC could have put a beat down on Texas, the SEC champ will put one on OU.

By Sammy Kershaw

December 1, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

You lunitics on here still think UGA is good at football?

I bet you probably dont recognize that your coach is a soft little fraud of a football coach either. He is the next to be exposed, mark it down. Fulmer and Tubby this year, Rickt is next.

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

DAWG92 Dominating because we RAN the Ball for more yards than you passed. We went into the trenches and punched UGA in the face and the DAWGS acted like Mike Vicks bait dogs rolling over, tail between their legs, and licking their balls.

By Red Raider

December 1, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Don’t tell me how Texas is getting gypped. Texas Tech has the same record as the Longhorns, and won their head-to-head matchup. Tech has as much right to advance as Texas.

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

WAKE beat Ole Miss & Vandy

TECH beat MSU & UGA

Clemson lost Bama & beat USC

Duke beat Vandy

NCSU lost USC@ home

Miami lost Florida

FSU lost Florida

6-4 ACC vs SEC take out the best teams from both sides GT-2 wins, Florida-2 wins & Bama-1 win and it is ACC 4-1 against the SEC between more even teams. That is calling Ole Miss & UGA middle teams but they are really the #3 & #4 teams in the SEC. Damn those BASKETBALL SCHOOLS learned to play Football.

By Ed

December 1, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Tony, one coach whose name never gets mentioned as being on the hot seat is Steve Spurrier, but he just completed his 4th straight season at South Carolina with at least 5 losses. His winning percentage at SC is around 57%, and there’s been no improvement from year one. S. Carolina under Spurrier has a losing record against Clemson, Georgia and Florida, and has lost two years in a row to Vandy. I can’t imagine the powers that be in Columbia are too pleased with those results, especially with what they are paying Spurrier. Have you heard anything?

By CrimsonRedScarlett

December 1, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

It may not mean nuch, but Swinney has one thing in common with Clemson's most successful coaches, Frank Howard and Danny Ford. He went to Alabama.
Was it loud enough in Tuscaloosa?

By hold em

December 1, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

it is well known that the Big 12 has no defense, people on here say that over and over again like it is something new, i have news for you, the SEC isn’t much better, plus Bama and FL have yet to play a decent team

By Pi$$onaBee

December 1, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

Nice try you idiot! When is the last time the ACC won a National Championship…a LOOOOONG Time Ago!!!!!!

More importantly every analyst and even your ignorant a$$ knows there is not one team in the ACC that can play within 4 touchdowns of Florida or Alabama. So congrats on the win over UGA and Vandy but the ACC still sucks…not an opinion…a fact

By 47straight

December 1, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Despite the texas/espn spin machine falsely framing this as an OU v. TX debate, in the Big12 South’s perfect round robin, 3 way tie, the TEXAS WIN OVER OU IS LOGICALLY IRRELEVANT since you cannot apply a head to head analysis that takes you in circles. (Texas beat OU, Tech beat Texas, OU beat Tech, etc.) = Circular Reasoning = Illogical.

Thus, we must look to body of work…OU far more impressive v. common opponents and won 4 of 5 v. BCS Top15… no one else comes close. OU should be #1 ahead of Bama.

By Clueless

December 1, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Kiffin is a risk because of the huge difference in mindset and mentality between coaching the pros and the college guys. Look how unsuccessful Saban, Spurrier, Petrino et al. were in the pros, and why they came back to the college game. There is a huge difference in trying to motivate college players who are only with you 3-4 years, compared to motivating pros who are paid gazillions whether they show up or not, or decide to have a headache one Sunday morning.

To everyone arguing for or against the BCS … it really doesn’t matter what we say, because EVERY single year, without exception, there will be a screw-up of some kind. And, EVERY single year we all write and talk about it, and nothing happens, and nothing will, until ….

Only one thing and one thing only will force the presidents to create a real playoff (16 to 24 teams), and it’s called TV money. Until the ESPN/ABCs and Foxs and CBSs and NBCs of the world are convinced that they can make more money with a playoff (and therefore pay more for games), nothing will happen, unless and until ….

A few of the great programs decided they could come out better operating under another new college athletic association. Remember, there is nothing legally-mandated or sacred about the NCAA, except the crown status that we fans and the media have given to it. At some point (maybe with the next TV contracts) there might be an opportunity for some of these powers to join up with Notre Dame (which will always be a national force) to create a new national collegiate athletic association, replete with its own national playoff to crown a true national champion. That would get the attention of both the NCAA presidents and the big-money TV contracts in a hurry.

A little revolution every once in a while can be a good thing, don’t you think? All it takes is a big pair of __, and there is a large enough critical mass of current and former coaches, ADs and TV execs out there who possess these assets, and the money sense, to make it happen.

Tony, at the right time, please go way beyond your current reasons of why we won’t have a playoff, think way outside the box, and please comment on the possibility of a complete revolution in the college game (as suggested here) that is necessary to make a playoff happen.

There must be another Ted Turner or Roone Arledge or Rupert Murdoch out there with the money and the b_s to make this happen.

By 47straight

December 1, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Tebow aside, this is the worst collection of QB’s in SEC history, which makes the SEC defensive stats a mirage.

By sugarPikeGang

December 1, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

ACC-6, SEC-4…Barnhart, that’s “the 3rd best conference” 6 wins; “the 1st best conference” 4 wins…

…I hope that you at least comment on this once before the bowl season. I know you will

(Go Jackets)

By Dawg92

December 1, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Let it all out PU$$Y. Sounds like 7 years of pent up frustration coming out. Fact is ACC is still a joke. Can’t wait to see another ex-Big East team play another Big East team in the Orange Bowl. Dawgs had a disspappointing 9-3 year. Jackets had a phenomenal 9-3 year. Tells you where our programs are at. Again to all the OTHER Tech fans, congrats on the win, your guys obviously wanted it more.

By 47straight

December 1, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

The problem with the SEC model is that in that scenario OU (or team A, B C in such a scenario) had nothing to play for in the TTech game. No matter what they do they are screwed in regards to winning the division. If OU beats Tech bad, like they did, then Tech gets pushed down to third out of the three. Illogically, they are encouraged to play them close in hopes of creating a three way log jam where they are left at the top with TTech second (in the BCS standings).

So, Mack, by a simple result of scheduling, you get the advantage. Just because they play the other two teams before the other two play each other they are given an advantage in terms of getting more time to recover from a loss.

By JP

December 1, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the words of wisdom, CLUELESS. Everyone’s figured out the TO after watching Saturday’s game…you are a football genius! This is why everyone laughs at UGAY fans…rash statements and just plain stupidity!!

LOL

By T-Bone

December 1, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Tony, C’mon. I realize that you are a UGA & SEC homer, but you are usually a great college football commentator. But you’ve got to be more balanced. Your whole comment about the GT-UGA game was that something was wrong at UGA. How about saying that something special is going on at Tech?

Go Jackets!!

By KJ

December 1, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Dominating because we RAN the Ball for more yards than you passed

LOL, even when they win, the gnats still manage to be delusional. Winning by 3 is not dominating. Having fewer total yards is not dominating. Dominating would be, say, winning 51-7, or 7 years in a row.

So what I’m really trying to say here is, you suck at life, and you should probably kill yourself.

By Brent Cunningham

December 1, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

You know it’s a meaningless football game. Tech fans don’t really care THAT much. We’d like to win, but it’s just recreation. It’s not our identity. We would care even less, if Georgia fans didn’t care so much. People like Dawg92, cause us to want Georgia to loose far more than we want Tech to win. Either way, we have a very, very good school, that we are proud of 12-0 or 0-12, we would never want to swap place and the record of the football team doesn’t change who we are as people.

By sugarPikeGang

December 1, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Re. Dawg(sic)92: Class - find some.

By Steve Superior

December 1, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Who was the best team the DAWGS beat this year? Us? Auburn? LSU? Arizona State? Really one win against a good team? Really. You’d have finished 3 place in either acc divison. 5 star recruits and 2 plus million dollar coaches (and your dignity) don’t buy what it used to!

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Pi$$onaBEE the last time an ACC won a National Championship is more resent that the UGA butt sniffers.

By athensdawg

December 1, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

in one of these posts, i predicted that tech would smack georgia in the face and georgia would not be able to get their panties readjusted to respond properly.

congrats to the jackets.

meanwhile, uga is working on getting their nails painted and hair done properly for the upcoming bowl game.

By UGA student

December 1, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Georgia Tech scored 45 points with one completion

Georgia was coming off a bye week. I have no idea why the Georgia fan base is pleased with the outcome of this season. We have the potential #1 pick in the NFL draft at QB, along with first round picks Knowshown, Atkins, Owens (formally before injury). FIRE MARK RICHT - he must be accountable for this failure. The difference between elite coaches, like Saban and Stoops, is that a conference championships don’t define success - National Championships do. I’m tired of not capitalizing on talent of Georgia recruiting. BOBO will never know what success is… demote this fool to an inner-city high school job.

By CMR

December 1, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Tellem Dawg92! GT sucks and we lead the country in arrests!

AINT IT GREAT TO BE A BULLDAWG?!!!

By Gen Neyland

December 1, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

VaVol

UT fans did help Fulmer’s decision to send Randy Sanders packing…Things then got better back under Cut. Clawson’s arrival made things a whale of a lot worse. I’ll hold back on Kiffin, take a wait and see.

By Kiffin is NO SatanSabin

December 1, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

At least UTs Hamilton did not hire a lying, arrogant, egotistical sleazebag, like Alabama did in an attempt to win at all costs. Oh, by the way, Alabama folks are sleazebags also,aren’t they? They lie and cheat then blame someone else when caught red handed, don’t they?

Its good to see an AD hire a decent coach who has morals.

By jaxstate10

December 1, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Kiffin has as much experience as our next President doesn’t he. Why should you have to be experienced to coach in the SEC but not to run our country? Sad but true!

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

KJ be very careful asking for someome to kill themselves or do you not read the news about cyber-bullieing. No 7-in-a-row is still less than 8-in-a-row Btch. I thought and know UGA was called TAILBACK U, but the real TAILBACKS play at TECH. NoShow is a over-hyped KneeGa. Hit his A$$ hard and he folds. NoShow made big plays when needed but still didn’t get 100 yrds rushing. NoShow was the L. Cox for UGA while Dwyer was MoMass, and Hot RODDY JONES was Fatt Matt. UGA has all the 5 & 4* players that played OK but could still not win.

By Bruce Mac

December 1, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

You can blame it all on Martinez if it makes you feel better but why are we waisting times outs in the second half because we don’t know what we are doing? Why can we not even try a field goal, why do we kick off out of bounds, why do we block in the back. It ain’t Martinez, it is the head coach. Give him praise when deserved but in 2008, he did a bad bad job and deserves a cut in pay. Quit doing stupid commmercials and go back to coaching football.

By wade

December 1, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Under that rule Texas would have gone to the Big 12 championship game because it beat Oklahoma 45-35 - didn’t TT beat Texas head to head? Under that rule TT would go to the …

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

UGA didn’t want a BLACKOUT because a well dressed FUNERAL on senior day was just not good for UGA. Sunday School was FUNERAL enough. DAWGS crying and making excuses is to funny. UGA hates when we do it but it seems to be ok for you PR*CKS to do it. LAST YEAR UGA was football lucky to have 2 balls go out of the back of the endzone to keep 14 TECH points off the board and if you ar real with yourselves you know it. Under the same argument MoMass dropped that TD pass and it bounced off the ground to come back into his hands. Not that UGA would not have scored but you would have to make more attempts and chances to screw-up tp score.

By KJ

December 1, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

be very careful asking for someome(sic) to kill themselves or do you not read the news about cyber-bullieing(sic)

My bad, let me know if you need help getting that sand out of your vagina.

Yeah, Moreno really folded, only 168 total yards. Your idiocy grows by the minute.

By carmatter

December 1, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

What about Willie? If we’re talking honor and loyalty, shouldn’t he step aside for the good of the program?

By Dawg92

December 1, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Brent & Sugar, not sure what I said to offend you but my comments are directed at your classy buddy Pi$$onaDawg. Appearantly you can’t even congratulate GT fans without offending them. So touchy. Congrats again on your dominating 3 point win to all tech fans besides, sugar, Brent, and PI$$y.

By Jimmy

December 1, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

The only Criticism about Croom is that he was out of touch with reality this year. Tony, If it had not been for Ellis Johnson’s defense last year MSU would not have won 8 games. Ellis got out of town, I bet he saw the hand writing on the wall, Leave it alone, Find some other SEC team to be the kickin boys, Maybe you should Follow MSU more than you do before you make comments, Saw Mark last night on Talkin Football, He seemed to agree with MSU and not you!

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

WHAT DID THAT 168 GET YOU? He still could not get 100 yds on the ground. I think NoShow NoMore is a RUNNINGBACK running is what the TECH BACKS did. NoShow dances on the sideline while thaking a BLOW. HAHAHAHA. What a BUNCH OF BUTT SNIFFERS AND BUTT LICKERS.

By mcdawg

December 1, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Regarding UGA, its okay to have alot of underclassmen playing but I don’t think you can overemphasize the importance of senior leadership-and due to injuries on the D it simply was not there

can someone pls explain to our safeties that you need to tackle with your arms as well as your bodies

By saint nick

December 1, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Are you kidding me?????How can UGA or TECH talk about defense?????45 and 42 respectively is not defense, it sounds like a WAC, PAC-10, or BIG 12 game!!!

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Hey guys, sorry about all those posts with “blow”, “butt”, and “pr!ck” in them. My therapist says I do that because I have certain depraved needs that aren’t being met, if you catch my drift. But at least Tech won this game for once in my lifetime, so I’ll have a reason to live, for one year anyway.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m working on a post that rags on Stafford, since the smothering Tech defense nearly held him to under 400 yards.

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Dawg 92 if I took it wrong I am sorry but after 7+ years of DAWGS talking crap to the JACKETS we get PI$$ED. Well, I think you will have % wins in the book again next year: the 3 little schools, UT, & AU. Add to that USC and the dawgs with the same staff and should be bowl eligable by week 7. Notice I am considering TECH as one of your out of the SEC little schools. Check the BLOGS and I said from the begenning UGA would be 9-4 & that is looking for REAL.

By CW

December 1, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

All these posts about what a classy individual Mark Richt is are missing the point. Pretty ridiculous to compare Richt with Bobby Johnson and Sly Croom.

Johnson and Croom would never have advocated the pre-meditated celebration against Florida last year.

Croom and Johnson have both demanded much greater discipline from their players.

When I saw that one of Georgia’s players got a DUI the week before the Tech game it confirmed what I’ve suspected for a while. By being a “player’s coach” Richt has given far too much leeway to his players and is no longer in control of the program.

I’ll take an old-school harda$$ coach like Paul Johnson at Tech, or Nick Saban at Alabama over a guy like Richt any day.

By Cynic

December 1, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Brent Cunningham:

Well said.

The Bulldog Nation must be so proud of Dawg92!

What a good sport and dignified loser.

By Rusty Pecker

December 1, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Kiffin is NO SatanSabin - you stupid stump humpin ‘neck. we dont give a damn if saban is a nice guy, all we care about is wins! you vowels are pathetic, you are below vandy in terms of the SEC pecking order. Good luck with Lane “Mike Shula Jr” Kiffin as your coach. Get ready for years of crappy football.

By Unimpressed

December 1, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

I don’t feel sorry for Fulmer, only that it took this long. Rumor had it for years that he failed to support Johnny Majors when he had health problems for the purpose lobbyin himself to get his job. We all know about Fulmer turning in Alabama and others to get an advantage in the SEC wars. He coward down and refused to show up at the TN/AL game (in AL) in fear he would be served papers to go to court. The old saying about “what goes around, comes around”, finally took him down. I think the Alumni was just waiting for one bad year to get rid of him.

By Chris

December 1, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

There are some pretty dumb folks in this state. I’d like to break them down for you:

  1. People who think UGA beat themselves. Clearly you are fools. We haven’t played defense all year and when you meet up against a team with a complex offense you’re dead. Don’t believe me…ask Texas.

  2. People who think the ACC and GA Tech is the best conference in the world. You are clearly idiots as well. You beat who? Vandy, Miss State, South Carolina, and a weak UGA team? Hey guess what…everybody in the SEC beat most of those teams too. The person who declared that the ACC is best because the ACC has won more nat’l championships since UGA - you are a supreme moron. Look at the list of national champions over the past ten years.

  3. People who think Richt/Martinez are the problem. You are fools as well. This team was never as good as hyped by us fans and the media. And to compare us to Tennessee and these other programs is ignorant. UGA has not been a serious contender for a national title in 25 years. Richt and crew were brought in because we were tired of 7-5 every year. They have us at usually a ten win season. Improvement accomplished. Fulmer and some of these other folks get canned because their programs usually compete for a title and a few down years are unacceptable. We are used to average years and now a ten win season is unacceptable? That makes no sense.

  4. People who think Knoshown is the second coming of OJ (minus the crime) in the NFL are idiots too. He’s a great running back don’t get me wrong. But when he gets to the NFL combine and drops his 4.6 40 the scouts will say, wow he was put in a system to succeed and he’s not that amazing - think Maurice Clarett. Therefore I think he will stay at UGA. Stafford is pro-style qb is incredible arm strength and poise. I think he goes.

  5. The Big 12 is nothing but fools. They and the media always clamor over themselves declaring the greatness of the Big 12. But really, what have they done recently? Get embarrassed by Boise State? Outside of Lubbock, Austin, and Norman that conference is a joke - Big East Style - and by the way beating a team from the Big East is not a major accomplishment. If the BCS were created today the Big East wouldn’t be included - they were originally in there b/c of Miami and Va Tech. So now one of those BCS spots will always be occupied by a potentially unranked team.

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

If you are going to try to be PI$$ONADAWG then never say you are sorry for your language U FAKE FING PRICK/ PU$$Y. I use the same name on all blogs don’t try to hi-jacke me unless you got the guts to TAKE IT FROM ME you PU$$Y. 770-*3-8248 call I will see you face to face. If you are so smart then you can do the math to figure just 2#s in the phone number. Right?

By Gator Nation

December 1, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Most Amazing Feat #1

That all the AJC sports writers picked Tech to win and it actually happened!

Most Amazing Feat #2

That Georgia was able to make Tech punt the ball 4 times. What a defense UGA has!

By hhhhmmmm

December 1, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Lots of folks are saying Stoops campaigned for the Big 12 title, but Mac’s the one who was all over radio and tv last week. Mac’s the one who talked to ABC during the OU/OSU game to plead his case. Stoops declined a similar offer to speak during the TX/A&M game. And if you think OU ran up the score, you didn’t watch that game. It’s a bum deal that TX was knocked out, but those are the rules and that’s what happened.

If you watch both teams, OU’s playing better right now, which is why Bama fans are whining that TX didn’t win the Big 12 South. Bama think they can beat TX, but not OU, in a NC game. Of course, Bama has to get past FL first…

By Ogeechee Dawg

December 1, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

It’s a matter of perspective:

First - Congrats to GT - they earned this victory. Coach Johnson is for real - and Tech is worthy of national ranking - and will be for sometime.

Second - While the Dawgs did not meet season expectations - we still have a chance to be 10-3.

I realize that the Bama Beat Down and Gator Stomp exposed the fact that we were not in the “ELITE” class this year - we are still close to the top of the heap.

Let me repeat that again - Dawgs still have a chance to be 10-3.

If we go 10-3 this year - that is 6 double digit winning seasons in 8 years for Coach Richt.

It took Coach Dooley 19 years to get 6 double digit wins.

I realize that they played one less game game - and did not have a SEC Title game - so let me rephrase the above statement - it took Dooley 18 years to have 6 9-plus winning seasons.

So What does this mean?

This tells me that UGA has a very competitive program - that the coaching staff knows what it is doing.

The defense was just not that good - but Coach Martinez and Coach Richt will get it fixed.

By Rusty Pecker

December 1, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Fat Phil and the VOWEL nation are getting what the deserve.. SH!TTY football for the next 5-6 years. What goes around comes around Fat Phil, you tattletale. Tennessee Football: They were great 10 years ago.

By Corey

December 1, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Lane Kiffin reminds you of Mike Shula to ‘Bama?? First off, Kiffin was a college assistant and recruited, Shula was an NFL assistant with no previous recruiting experience. Add in Monte and Ed Orgeron and UT will be able to recruit with the best of them.

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 1, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Hey guys, can you do me a favor and stop calling that number? It’s my mom’s cell phone, and she’s pretty upset that I gave it out. She’s already said I can’t play WoW for 2 weeks because of that stunt, I’m afraid one more call might put her over the edge, and I won’t be able to attend DragonCon next year. TYIA.

By Dawg92

December 1, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

By Dawg92 December 1, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this I believe all of the injuries made us a bit soft on defense. Not much hard hitting, afraid of becoming #19 out for the season. Offense was incredible this year. Bad UF game with the turnovers, but this years disappointment lays on the shoulders of the D and the injury epidemic.

Congrats to Tech, but Tony, how can you call a 3-point win “dominating”?

Response:

December 1, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this DAWG92 Dominating because we RAN the Ball for more yards than you passed. We went into the trenches and punched UGA in the face and the DAWGS acted like Mike Vicks bait dogs rolling over, tail between their legs, and licking their balls.

…I guess this is classy at GT? Nice school ya got there Brent.

By hhhhmmmm

December 1, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Oh, and for the blogger who said Bama wanted to beat both Meyer and Stoops because they are so lacking in class. I don’t see how either lack class.

Both have created great football programs that prove each year to be head and shoulders above everyone else in their conferences. Neither have lots of criminal activity on their teams, but when it’s happened, they’ve suspended or cut the players almost immediately. They don’t whine, contrary to popular belief - while UGA fans like to comment on the big end zone thing last year, not much came out of Meyer’s mouth other than one mild comment in a book. Both guys are pretty low key off the field - no wild, nasty comments about opponents, etc. I could go on, but why? The reason you hate them both - they don’t coach for your school….

By geechee

December 1, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Hey Bradley: You lost your cred as a sports writer last year. Aren’t you the guy who wanted Chris Hatcher as Head Coach at GT? Aren’t you the one who said Paul Johnson’s offense would never work in the ACC? Aren’t you the guy who picked Georgia over Florida? Since you know so much, why don’t you explain to us now, this day, how Georgia can justify keeping any of their coaches after having the top recuiting in the country over the past 5 years and still are not concerned about the team’s performance.

By GatorGuy

December 1, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Um Dan Tell about how many championships UGA has vs UF over the last 20 years? SEC or National? Let me save you the research. The answer is 2 SEC Championships, 0 National.

In that time, UF has 7 SEC Championships and 2 National Championships.

Like I said, UGA is an average program that has a great year from time to time.

UF is a great program that has an average year from time to time.

By OUSally

December 1, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

It took Coach Dooley 19 years to get 6 double digit wins… So what does this mean? This tells me that UGA has a very competitive program - that the coaching staff knows what it is doing.

That’s just sad. And pathetic that one would think this is a valid point in discussing the program’s success. UGA had a good season, but touting that your coach is doing better because he didn’t take 19 years to win 10 games in a season? Probably not the best argument.

By crs

December 1, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

The problem at UGA is people have gotten way too caught up in five star recruits. We don’t have the football players we used too. Rashard Jones is just out of place way too often. Asher is not a lock down corner at all. None of these great linebackers with the exception of Rennie are worth anything. I don’t care what scheme you run, the talent is obviously not there. That said Willie has had an opportunity and not made the most of it. If he would like to stay on in the secondary that would be great. We need to make a run at Tenuta or someone, a change probably does need to be made. Techs offense makes a lot of people look bad, but that was really bad.

By Jim

December 1, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

UGA is the Wisconsin of the SEC….a conference title here and there but never a real player on the national scale. Alabama lost 6 games last year and this year they number 1 and just scored the SEC’s first ever 12-0 regular season. UGA? Still pretending. Unreal. UGA is lumped in with Texas Tech, Wisconsin, Missouri, Oregon, Oregon State….great programs with a lot going for them, but never a real player on the national stage.

By Melz

December 1, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

When will Georgia learn that you need some size and speed on defense. They wear down every game, even against the bad teams in the SEC. They act like punks too. Richt, get it together fast. The program is stumbling and once again Florida is pulling ahead.

By Pitbull

December 1, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Congrats to Tech. The team that played the best won. My beloved Dogs committed two turnovers that led directly to 14 Tech points. Tech to their credit did not turn the ball over at all. Turnovers will kill you in football and with a 45-42 score, I think that was the difference.

I have been following the Dogs for 40+ years and never thought a Dog team that scored 42 points would lose a game. I don’t think either of our defenses were anything to get excited about. However with the exception of the final score, it was one of the most exciting UGA-Tech games in many years.

I hope some of you bloggers get your ugly hate under control. I would hate to see this rivalry game discontinued because a handful of fans on both sides cause it to spin out of control. It has happened with Alabama-Auburn and a lot of other natural geographic rivalries. Please don’t cause it here.

Enjoy your win and we will see you next year.

By Go Vols

December 1, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Tony Barnyard wrong as usual. Good times are ahead for UT.

If Lane Kiffin brings the same philosophy and recruits anything like Carroll the Vols will be winning in no time.

If any team in the SEC is capable of implementing the system Carroll runs it’s UT. Stick with the new program, give him time to recruit the right players and you’ll come back to prominence.

By Tom T

December 1, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

I note that some blogger wrote that the SEC went 1 and 3 against the ACC…. I guess counting was not one of his stronger points…. Fla beat up on Miami and Florida State and Alabama beat uo on Clemson… that make three, not one win against the ACC….

By BIGBEE

December 1, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

TO PI$$ONABEE: You just don”t get it do you. You lost sucker. Poor coaching, poor playing inadequate preperation, what ever else you want. You still lost.

By K-DAWG

December 1, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

If I was the coach at UGA, I would have the players cleaning Sanford Stadium to teach them a lesson on how not to tackle and maybe next time they will hit the runningback hard enough to send him to the team benches, instead of a little push.Just look at the past years of our defense stats and see if they have declined, that is coaching or lack of it. Saturday’s game reminded me of the West Virginia, players with no emotion at all.

By Pitbull

December 1, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

This Kiffin thing may work out well for the rest of the SEC. The past few years have shown that college coaches that move to the NFL fail, and NFL coaches that move to college fail.

Look at the college coaches that went to the NFL and scurried back to college.

Look at the NFL coaches that went to a college and scurried back to the NFL.

Names? Holtz, Spurrier, Saban, Gailey, Petrino, and that 8 year contract wonder at Notre Dame.

Chan Gailey even interviewed with the Steelers and Dolphins while coaching at Tech just to get away from college ball.

Former NFL coaches hate to recruit, and hate to babysit their players during the off season and hate to deal with academics.

Former college coaches are shocked that they do not have the control over NFL players like they did in college.

The NFL needs to recruit coaches from within, and colleges need to also. They are two different games.

Kiffin is not the answer for Tennessee and will set the Vols back about 5 years before they get the right guy which is ok with me.

By fred

December 1, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

I can never recall “gimmicks” creating consistently high performance.

*black-outs *stomping logos *having the TEAM flood the UFla endzone

Consistency is the result of commitment and hard work:

*zero acceptance of off-field actions *low turnovers *minimal penalties *showboating—-NO!!! *a dedication to teamwork

Sorry, Dawgs, but group one belongs to Richt (an almost great coach), while two is 100% endorsed by our Coach, Paul Johnson (in my book, a true leader).

THWG!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooJackets!!!!!!!!!

By BravesFan79

December 1, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Everyones coming down on GA’s defensive coach Willie. And i agree the 1st half against Alabama was TERRIBLE! But if youve watched all of GT and UGA’s games like i have, ud see that GT has rushed for over 400 yards against some pretty good teams. I guess Florida State and Miami should also be calling for their def corridinators heads.

Face the facts UGA fans… GT’s rushing offense is just the TRUTH! And with the players UGA currently has on D… they would of got stomped REGARDLESS of D corrdinator.
Injuries killed UGA this year.

Yes GT would of beaten most SEC teams outside of AL and Florida, but then again… GT is the best team in the ACC…

overall the ACC is still alot weaker.

Cant wait for college hoops to get started… go GT!!

By Gordon

December 1, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Tom T @2:40: The blogger was referring to Saturday, not the whole year. On Saturday, Tech beat UGA, Clemson beat USC, Wake Forest beat Vanderbilt, and Florida beat FSU. For the whole year, the ACC leads 6 to 4. There will be at least one matchup in the bowls (Peach) and possibly others.

By Steve Goucher

December 1, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t it have been nice to see a play off Texas vs. Oklahoma and Florida vs Alabama the winners play for the championship. Missouri shouldn’t be part of the equation

By Okay, where to now ?

December 1, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

“Rusty Pecker” what an idiotic blog. Phil the ‘Tattletale’…how about “Crimson Tide CHEATING right out in the open”. Even Spurrier had warned you to cut it out or he would tell. Phil could never have ratted you out if you were not blatently cheating. That moron Tide supporter was bragging to everyone about the players he had bought and paid for. He got you the suspension, not Phil.

Personally, I am glad the Tide is back, but your comments about Fulmer show your obvious inability to see your own stupidity.

By shane#1

December 1, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

1- The BCS is not to blame for the OK-Texas mess, only for the fact that Texas has no chance to play for the National Championship. If OK loses to MO, would a one loss team that did not win it’s conference slip ahead of one loss USC that won the Pac 10? What about all the arguments that UGA could not play in the BCSNCG because it did not win the SEC last year? College football needs a playoff, people! The BCS is a joke! 2- UGA was outcoached Saturday, plain and simple. Running QBs have hurt UGA all year, especially those like Burns and Nesbitt and the UK QB who have outside speed. I don’t necessarily blame the Bama loss on coaching, their big old linemen just whipped UGA’s butt. Like they did everybody else. UF has so much team speed that I can understand that loss. I will say UGA’s D look woefully unprepared for either team. I can understand those losses, but blowing a 16 point lead in the second half? At home? When You QB throws for over 400 yds and five TDs in the game? Against a running team at that. It was a complete defensive meltdown aided by poor special teams play. Richt must make some changes. 3- Kiffin may work out. The UT fan base can’t be that much worse than Al Davis, right Gen? 4- That’s modern football, what have You done for Me lately? Ask CTT! 5- It is too early to tell about Clemson. Remember that UWVa thought they had the next Dick Rod.

By Dr. K

December 1, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Georgia’s demise is easily explained. AWFUL, PATHETIC. defensive end play all year. Any 1st grade football fan can tell you the D ends are the key to slowing down a triple option offense. Georgia’s horrible lack of talent at the position was really exposed Saturday. The defense acted as if they hadn’t considered that the pitch was one of the options. Gee Willie, you may have wanted to mention that aspect of the offense. Defensive ends need to string out plays and give the rest of the defense time to rotate to the play. Almost every time Saturday they attacked the QB early and there was no one in position to take the wide back receiving the pitch. Even when there was someone in position (Ellerbe, Jones, Knox) they responded with a shoulder hit and bounced right off. The defensive ends have been unable in previous games to apply any pressure to opposing passers. Its like playing defense with just 9 players when your ends do nothing but take up space. Adjustments should have been made. If you have guys that can’t play in those spots, try somebody else. Even if you have to draft players from other positions. Its also revealing that the D end coach is the same guy in charge of special teams. Nice job Fabris.

By Mark

December 1, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Mark Richt has high principles….now that’s funny…he’s got kids constantly in trouble with the police and hardly ever runs them off…maybe if Mark were more concerned about his kids, their grades, and coaching instead of what color they are going to wear and how they are going to celebrate a touchdown against Florida he’d truly win something that matters.

By The Voice

December 1, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

General Neyland once said, “The head coach must be a little aloof from the players and to a certain extent the other coaches.” Maybe we need a little less Kum By Yah and a little more “kick thou butt,” in Athens.

By stings to lose...ask buLLydog

December 1, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Pitbull has generated some very inflamatory barking blogs himself….

By halftime adjustments were made

December 1, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

by Coach Johnson!

By Goober

December 1, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Thankfully our planet earth has a deepest point to it, the center, sometimes metaphorically referred to as hell. This way we can be sure that all of you on this blog trying to out-cuss and out-insult the other, while digging a deeper hole for yourself in the process, will at some point reach the end … the center of the earth, or hell … beyond which you will haved reached your terminus and shall cease to exist, thank god.

As someone here has stated before, one blogger trying to out-insult the other is like two souls in hell arguing over who is the less sinful.

By Franck E. Sinkwhich

December 1, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

For the first time in many a moon I’m ashamed of my Bulldog heritage. This season was disgraceful. I would like to personally apologize for the irrational, obnoxious, and downright weird, behavior of many of my fellow alumni. We didn’t treat other schools with the respect that they deserved (and the respect that we didn’t). No, I’m not going to join the chorus that is calling for the head of that noble, yet underwhelming, coach, Mr. Richt, or any of his assistants. But I would like to write that they are obviously not recruiting fine young men, and they are not developing the creeps they are recruiting into finer young men—-in other words they’re not turning potential sanitation workers into postal workers.

Thank for your your time.

By VolGuy

December 1, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Hey Bama fans - just because you made a few really stupid hires before you found your money-sucking football savior doesn’t mean Tennessee will face the same fate. Kiffin might just be what the Vols need to get back to dominating your sorry A*******ES year after year. Enjoy your overrated #1 season. Certainly won’t happen again.

By Rob

December 1, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Football has rules. The BCS has rules. Even a child understands, that if you don’t play by the rules there will be consequences. And no one likes to hear a small child whine. Like it or not, all of the Big 12 ADs and coaches had a say, when the tie breaker policy was adopted. University presidents looking for a piece of the big BCS checkbooks have to sign off on a commitment to participate in accordance to the BCS parameters. Like it or not it’s about the MONEY. To hear big, tough football players and seasoned coaches whine about having to play by the rules is just nauseating. Stop crying and accept the rules. If you don’t like them - do something to get them changed. If Mack Brown did as much politicking for change as he did to get the rules to bend, perhaps the Longhorn faithful would be celebrating instead of whimpering. Proud Texans get things done. Texas is no place for crybabies.

By NotaAtlantafan

December 1, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

By azcat225

December 1, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Is OleDawg going to show up and apologize for the multi-paragraph insult he hurled at Tony on Friday? Any of the others? Yeah, the check is in the mail, too…

When you have to resort to insults to make your argument, your argument isn’t worth making.

Congrats on going 9-1 this past weekend, Mr. Barnhart. I’m sure the blog will be overflowing with heartfelt apologies today.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You know the old saying….”even a blind squirrel finds an nut every now and again”.

By Al

December 1, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Come on Tony?!

Kiffin hire “feels like Shula”?

I know you have to make the doggies feel better, with Tech beating the crap out of them and all… but Mike Shula did NOT bring Don with him.

Its a new day at TN; get used to it. :)

By old coach

December 1, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

I’m just an old coach with close to 30 years experience on both sides of the line of scrimmage, so I don’t expect anyone to give this much credence. But having served on the staff of a state champ which ran a derivative of the great Oklahoma 50 defense from the 1950’s, and having served on a staff for a high scoring series of state quarterfinalists which ran a derivative of Paul Johnson’s offense from the Georgia Southern days, I know a little about what went on “between the hedges” Saturday. And it boils down to this: rarely can any team running a 40 defense stop Paul Johnson’s option. The option can stop itself, as it’s high risk. But he can out-formation you to death once you’ve committed to a scheme. Go back and watch the first half. Paul stuck with the end over exclusively on runs. UGA bought into it and committed the safety to cover the pitch man, and effectively. BUT…second half: Paul abandoned the end over and went balanced slot, forcing the safety to cover too much ground to get to the pitch, and school was out. The 40 is inherently inferior versus the option. And Paul Johnson knows his stuff. Note to defensive coaches: spend some time watching Erk Russell’s National Champion Georgia Southern teams with Paul Johnson as offensive coordinator, while you’re watching those Navy films. Then scrap the 40 and bring back the 50.

By halftime adjustments were made

December 1, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

so is old coach saying georgie is too __ to understand the perfect option?

By We Need A Playoff

December 1, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

When Alabama loses Saturday to Florida, the BcS matchs Florida (1 loss to Ole Miss) against OU (1 loss to Texas) for the NC; Florida will beat them by 30. USC (1 loss to Or St) against PSU (1 loss to Iowa) will beat PSU by 30 in the Rose Bowl.

Now please explain why this makes sense.

We need a playoff. If Florida beats OU and USC beats PSU I hope the AP spits the NC. This is BS. Why do we have to continue the same lame dance every year?

By steve

December 1, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Give me a break Tony, “dominated the Bulldogs in fact, to win that game on Saturday” Dominated? UGA had 488 total yards on offense, tell me how good GT defense is? How many total yards did Tech have? To me, UGA didn’t have any problem moving the ball on Tech but yet you say UGA was Dominated in fact. GT wins by a field goal to beat UGA. How much do you enjoy watching High School triple option and how does Paul plan to sell that to recruits who for the most part want more than anything to play in the NFL? How many teams in the NFL run the vaunted Triple Option? Sure it wins games in College but sure is boring to watch imo.

By #1 Bamafan

December 1, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

VOLGUY, It looks like the vols made a good choice for your head coach.But you can take your stupid remarks somewhere else and go suck on a big orange and join Fat Phil in looking a job MORON!!

By Bill in Sandy Springs

December 1, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Tony, you are right something is definitely wrong at Georgia.

The Dawgs defense seems to lack that killer instinct that all great teams have. In all seriousness, the Dawgs could use alot more Ray Lewis and lot less David Pollack “the good guy”.

By SlimG

December 1, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Tony, you couldn’t be farther from the truth.

Remember the Donnan, Goff era’s. We were second class until CMR showed up on campus. Your love affair with UT and UF is biased. You can’t stand the fact that georgia is a factor every year now. Get used to it!

The dawg defense was weak I agree. Coaches can’t tackle, throw, catch, or hold onto the ball at kickoff. The hate bowl saturday was a great game and neither team should hold it’s head down.

Let’s have a rematch in the Peach Bowl.

Kiffin will be fine at Tennesse and they deserve every bit of down they have coming after the stunt they pulled with the last coaching change. Remember?

Techies, one average season doesn’t make a champion. The offense is still high school and you know it. 9-3 and you think your sh#t doesn’t stink. What a joke. No ACC championship, no BCS bowl.

How many good players will sign up for this team ball crap?

By Sautee Dawg

December 1, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

We need a playoff

Hold on there don’t go throwing Bama out the window just yet. Not so sure Gators can deal with Bama. On ly team Florida played this season with a decent defense was Ole Miss and that didn’t go so well. Bama is a good physical team that will probally be considered underdogs and don’t see Gators treating them like you think. Just my opinion, i may be wrong, Playoff not gonna happen no time soon. 10 years down the road maybe. Not until the Rose bowl and it’s conferences decide that they want a playoff system we probally won’t have one. I bet if the Conferences that wanted a playoff system started one up the other conferences would be the first to whine because they were left out.

By Mark

December 1, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

What is th eproblem with the Big 12 logic. OU is #2, Texas is #3 - OU wins the conference based on this reasonable logic that was in place prior to the season start. You have to be an part of the subprime lending math team to not understand how this is reasonable as any other formula. Or perhaps you just want Texas to win - logic or not. Tuck Fexas - OU wins!

By Bammer Cheater

December 1, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this

Hey SatanSabin, you hit the nail on the head and it hurt a couple of Bammer low life cheater supporters like RustyPecker and another redneck. That tells you a lot about folks who cheat then get mad when they are caught-kinda like Billary and Hillary. Go Tech!!!!

**At least UTs Hamilton did not hire a lying, arrogant, egotistical sleazebag, like Alabama did in an attempt to win at all costs. Oh, by the way, Alabama folks are sleazebags also,aren’t they? They lie and cheat then blame someone else when caught red handed, don’t they?

Its good to see an AD hire a decent coach who has morals.**

By jaxstate10

By stings to lose

December 1, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Steve, exactly what did georgie do in the 3rd quarter…they got their behind dominated by the Johnson perfect option AKA high school offense as Slime would call it! LOL!

Did Steve call it boring? Seemed glorious to me! Run, run, run and then run some more.

ps, when you see buLL, ask him about his guaranteed prediction bout South Carolina. Like many dogs, he knows little.

By toby young

December 1, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

dabo dabo DOOOOOOO.Diffrent team with Dabo.Right place right time for CLEMSON FANS…Ten er see fans have hired a deer in the headlights.Looks like he outaa be doing late night comedy on S N L…UGA overrated again….

By Ed

December 1, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this

GatorGuy, your comments were hilarious. It took Florida 59 years to win their first CONFERENCE championship. Georgia was winning a national championship and SEC championships back in the 40s. UF has a long way to go to reach the history and tradition of Georgia. You must be 18 years old.

By Ed

December 1, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

If Bama fans talk too much trash, just reply with two words…

Louisiana

Monroe

By He who laughs last ...

December 1, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

Damn right there’s something wrong in Athens …. and his name is PAUL JOHNSON!!

GA fans, It ain’t going to be pretty for your dogs as long as Paul Johnson is roaming the Jackets’ sideline!

By Oldmanriver

December 1, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

Toby Young,

“UGA overrated” i agree. That was proved this year but most knowledgable UGA fans thought with our schedule even before the injuries, we would lose 2 games. We didnt think we would lose to Tech though. But to have a Clemson fan call us ‘overrated” is beyond hilarious. I think rubbing that rock causes dilusion. Talk about average programs, Clemson is at the top of that list.

By Kay McDonnell

December 1, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

Regarding your opinion about the Sylvester Croom situation, I’d say maybe you need to do a little more investigating before spouting off about a situation of which you know very little.

I am a big Sylvester Croom fan but I am an even bigger Mississippi State University fan and I know unless some drastic changes were made we would be in the same losing position in 2009 that we were in this year. Greg Byrne certainly did offer Coach Croom a choice and Coach Croom, being loyal to a fault, chose not to make any changes. I hate it like the dickens but I also know our administration will find another person to coach Mississippi State football.

By the way, you are the only national columnist I have heard speak negatively about MSU because of the Croom situation. Most have said he was given 5 years to show some improvement and even the success of 2007 could not overcome the lack of success the other 4 years.

By Oldmanriver

December 1, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

To all you guys who say Stafford is an average QB, Plllease! You are just either too biased against UGA to admit he is a damn good qb or you just don’t know football. And Tech fans, you won. congrats! but it is very premature to talk trash after you win one game after losing 7 in a row. Why don’t you just act like your coach who actually acts like he has won a big game before.

By Gen Neyland

December 1, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

Rusty Pecker

So sorry the rust has moved to your brain. That leaves you with zero on the plus side. Kiffen hasn’t even held his first practice but you’ve got it figured out…reference > See anything from BuLLdawg Wanna make a wager on his first signature win in the SEC East..? It’s gonna happen, just a matter of who…

By Early Times

December 2, 2008 12:38 AM | Link to this

I’m not a fan of either team, but I thought both Tennessee and Clemson would hire someone more capable - meaning - an existing, proven HC.

Time will tell.

By Chris in Bama

December 2, 2008 4:24 AM | Link to this

Jesus people! What the hell is up with the Alabama cheating thing….Some of you act like everyone in the UA is to blame for all of the sanctions. Dubose caused ALL of it single handed….caught red handed. Alabama has had it rough because of one stupid person. Alabama has always dominated and has the deepest tradition in the country IMO. Until recent history Bama has always been one of the best teams period. Now that they may be returning to smashmouth championship caliber football everyone hates them. I guess I would rather be great and hated than bad and loved….admit it you people that bash bama are just afraid they will dominate that A** again! Even you TN.

Saban is a great coach, the people that say he is a liar and a cheat need to check their own coach and program. Yes Saban lied about being offered the job in the first place but how many coaches actually say that? Mal moore (UA athletic director) caused many problems after the sanctions were handed down. Franchone screwed bama royally, Price never coached a game and Shula couldn’t hack college ball. Don’t be mad that we now have your dream coach!

By Rusty Pecker

December 2, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this

Ed - there you go bringing up the past! where will your team be playing this Saturday? oh yeah, with themselves. Goodbye loser.

By Rusty Pecker

December 2, 2008 7:25 AM | Link to this

VOLGUY- how did your beloved VOWELS do against bama the past 2 years? What was their record against Florida since Urban took over? The VOWELS are pathetic and will be for years to come. Deal with it!

By Rusty Pecker

December 2, 2008 7:27 AM | Link to this

Okay, where to now ? - you sound like a cool guy! You wanna go to the SEC championship with me this Saturday?

By Pi$$onaDawg

December 2, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this

PI$$ONADAWG pretender nobody has called my mom’s cell. If you are going to lie then at least sell it better. I still have not recieved a call from you. Georgia has area phone numbers can’t you figure out my # yet?

By B

December 2, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

Tony,

Actually, there hasn’t been a lot of national criticism. Everyone that follows MS State football can tell you how misrable Croom’s “West Coast” was during his 5 seasons. Even though Croom inherited a bad program and was hit with the injury bug this season, there is still no excuse for an offense like that, with no signs of improvement. Remember this, if it wasn’t for 2 greedy coaching decisions(Bama INT for a TD and UM 4th down in 4th) in the 2007 season, MS State doesn’t go to a bowl, Croom doesn’t win SEC Coach of the Year, and he is fired mid-season.

By JR

December 2, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

KJ, I wouldn’t brag about being an expert at removing sand from a vagina. It only shows the type of females you dated to gain that experience! You were a UGA agriculture major I bet.

By TS

December 2, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Mark Richt is not Tommy Bowden. But I think he must be Ray Goff’s son from a prior recruiting trip way back. Richt is a wimp, and now GT will join Florida in humiliating Georgia every year. Karma is finally paying Dooley back for all those years of paying players.

By Mark

December 2, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

**MISSISSIPPI STATE DID NOT MAKE A MISTAKE YOU MORON. CROOM IS AND WAS A GREAT AND HONORABLE MAN AND IS AND WAS A HORRIBLE - REPEAT - HORRIBLE FOOTBALL COACH. YOUR POINT OF HOW CAN YOU DO THIS ONE YEAR REMOVED IS STUPID TOO. IN FIVE YEARS, HE HAD ONE SEASON OF MORE THAN FOUR WINS. ONE!!!!!!!!!! AND TO SAY MSU IS GETTING NATIONALLY CRITICIZED IS NOT FACTUAL EITHER. BOTH CBS AND ESPN REPORTED ON THIS STORY SATURDAY, AND NEITHER THE BRANDO-TILLMAN CREW NOR THE GAMEDAY CREW WAS CRITICAL. MARK MAY EVEN SAID IT WAS TIME FOR THE TWO TO PART WAYS. I KNOW YOU WOULD LOVE FOR THERE TO BE SOME RACIAL STUFF TO STIR UP HERE, BUT THERE IS NOT, WHAT A MORON. NO WONDER YOU GOT CANNED.

By Kimmer

December 2, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

Please do a little homework before declaring that MSU made a mistake letting Sly Croom go. He was indeed a good man and he did some good things for MSU but he was not a very good head coach. This fact had nothing to do with inheriting a mess of a football program. Here are the facts. He failed to put an offense on the field that broke the top 100 in 5 years. His teams were fundamentally flawed in several areas and routinely lost to completely outmanned opponents. His teams were also marred by very poor game management with the recent contest against GT a prime example. He is a good man and I still admire him greatly but he simply did not have the skill to succeed as a HC in the SEC no matter the team.

By George Bush

December 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Regarding the Miss State comments

Hey Tony….what national media has criticized MSU over this situation? As a fan I have been following the story and havent seen the criticism. Only from you. And you know if this was the situation at UGA, that you would have been calling for a resignation long ago. The guy was supposed to have an offensive mind…but he never had an offense that was any better than 100th in the nation. And this year was his worst offense of all. Exactly why should MSU have kept him? Because he’s a nice guy?

By dog33

December 2, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

First, I would have liked for Coach Croom to have changed OC, Offensive line coach and special teams coach and be given 2 more years.

That being said, I don’t believe the national media is justified in criticizing MSU for letting Croom go. Look at the facts. His offense was ranked 113th out of 119 teams. The offense has not improved and was worse this year than last. His offense did not finish in the top 100 ever. He also had a problem with his teams not being prepared for at least 4 games each year. That’s too many for a 12 game season. This year it was La Tech, GT, TN and Ole Miss. As for MSU’s rival Ole Miss, he has failed to have them prepared for their rival for 3 straight years. 3 years ago MSU was favored and lost b/c of poor special teams. Last year Ole Miss dominated a better MSU team for 3 1/2 quarters. This year they dominated for 4 quarters. How do you not get your team up for your in state rival for 3 consecutive years. Those facts give some merit to changing directions.

I believe if Croom’s offense had improved to 75-90 and showed promise for next year that even with 4 wins he would have been back.

By Charlie

December 2, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

Regarding MSU and Croom, you should probably BE A FREAKIN journalist and do some research. Despite squeaking out a few games last year our offense was still as inept as ever. FIVE YEARS OF ZERO offensive production = fired…regardless of who the coach is and the school he coaches at.

By Tony in Johns Creek

December 2, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Tony,

It’s obvious something is wrong in Athens, but I believe we need to stick with Coach Richt’s decision in not making any hasty changes on his staff just yet. This staff is the same one that coached a pretty strong defense last year, holding many opponents to under 20 points a game last year.

If you go back and look at the fact that we’ve had 18 season ending injuries this year, along with the fact that we lost Marcus Howard who had twice as many sacks and more QB pressues than our current 5 other DE’s this year COMBINED, it had a bigger effect than the bulldawg nation would like to admit. Sloppy and undisciplined play notwithstanding by the defense and special teams this year…. with 18 season ending injuries, Richt was praying he was going to be able to even field a team with enough bodies, much less 4 and 5 star experienced athletes… I believe we’ll find some junior college kids for DE and fill in other holes this offseason, and along with buckling down this offseason, and a schedule next year lines up better than this year’s, we may bounce back strong even without Stafford and/or Moreno.

By MSU Supporter

December 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

First and foremost, Sylvester Croom is indeed a good man. Secondly, I am an avid follower of Mississippi State football. As such, I feel that I am much better qualified to speak to the MSU football situation than Mr. Barnhart. If he had done his homework, he would have recognized that while MSU had a “successful” season last year when weighed in the balance of wins vs. losses, it was not so successful in terms of program progress. Everyone who knows MSU football knows that last year’s record was a misleading measure of our team’s success. In short, it had all the characteristics of a fluke…we all knew in our hearts that it wasn’t real. Now, why MSU should be getting national criticism is beyond me. If the “plan” isn’t working and the man in charge of the “plan” isn’t willing to change it, what else can you do? I blame Coach Croom’s predicament on his staff’s unwillingness to resign. They saw the heat that he was taking. If they had left, he would still be there today. But, bottom line…Coach Croom publicly placed “all confidence” in his staff. He had no real way out as long as they werent’ willing to leave on their own. How could he dismiss staff that he’d publicly praised? I wish him much success in the future. He is truly a great man and I am sincerely saddened that he did not have a long career at MSU.

By John Thompson

December 4, 2008 12:38 AM | Link to this

Mississippi State is not catching any flack over Croom. Yours are the first negative comments I’ve read or heard from a “media” figure. Croom was an absolutely horrible coach. You obviously never watched any of our games. The bump in the road was actually last year when we won 8 games. Our defense scored 7 touchdowns that directly resulted in 4 wins. The other 4 years were unfortunately the norm. I can’t tell you how many inexplicable coaching decisions Croom has made on the sidelines that profoundly and negatively effected the outcome of games (punting from the opponent’s 30, losing by 3 without having used a single timeout, and punting on 4th and 1 at the other team’s 40 when your RB is averaging 7 yards per carry for the game). Our offense has never been ranked in the top 100 since Croom arrived. Sherill’s last year we were in the top 60 in scoring with a first year OC (Morris Watts). Last but not least, Mississippi State has had more players arrested under Croom in 5 years than in all the 12 years previous. Basically what I’m saying is, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about because you don’t pay as close attention to how well the coach is actually doing as someone that sends a check to the school every single month of the year and goes to every single home game and 2 or 3 road games. Same OC for 5 years; no offensive improvement; no intended changes; no mistake was made on Mississippi States behalf. Three of our wins last year were complete luck that had zero to do with coaching. Croom’s coach of year honor was a sentimental award. Les Miles or Mark Richt, or Rich Brooks would have been more deserving. Mississippi State doesn’t deserve your criticism. The man got 5 years, which is more than most coaches get, even after producing better results than Croom. You don’t get to decide what we should expect. It’s not your school, it’s not your passion, and it’s not your money. So, from everyone that has had to sit through losses to Maine, Tulane, La Tech, and Houston: kiss our a$s!

By Jim Jaeger

December 6, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Are the Big 12 Governing Officials effin brain dead?? How can a 5-3 (Missouri) team be playing for the championship while two 7-1 teams are ignored? Each big 12 team should play each other. The team with the best record wins the Conference Title. If outside Conference games are to be played…fine. The teams can expand their schedules. What an unfair mess these goofballs got. Maybe the should beome auto execs.

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