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DEL.ICIO.USSEC Champ, Oklahoma to play for BCS title
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Knowing full well that this whole thing can blow up in the next two weeks, here are my projections on for the BCS bowls. Understand that all of this can fall apart if Alabama loses to Auburn or Florida loses at Florida State on Saturday. I have to make some other assumptions, like Oklahoma beating Oklahoma State and Oregon State beating Oregon to advance to the Rose Bowl. If you see a flaw in the logic, let me know about it:
1. BCS championship: Alabama-Florida winner vs. Oklahoma: Even though Texas (10-1) and Oklahoma (10-1) are 2-3 in the BCS Standings, if Oklahoma beats No. 12 Oklahoma State (9-2) on Saturday, I believe they will jump over Texas in Sunday’s new BCS Standings. That’s because Texas is playing unranked Texas A&M (4-7). Oklahoma is already No. 2 in the computers and Texas is No. 4. Yeah, Texas beat Oklahoma (45-35) on a neutral field. Is it fair? Probably not. But that is what I think will happen.
Oklahoma will play No. 13 Missouri in the Big 12 championship game where a win puts the Sooners in South Florida for the BCS title. No. 1 Alabama (11-0) will obviously go if it beats Florida. It won’t matter if the Gators are No. 4 on championship Saturday. If they beat No. 1 Alabama they will jump over an idle Texas team and into the big game.
2. Rose Bowl: Penn State vs. Oregon State: If you’re thinking these two teams have already played, you’re right. The Nittany Lions destroyed the Beavers 45-14 on Sept. 6 in Happy Valley. But if Oregon State (8-3) wins at home against Oregon (8-3) on Saturday, the Beavers finish in a tie for first place in the Pac-10 with No. 5 Southern Cal (9-1). Oregon State will get the trip to the Rose Bowl because it beat Southern Cal head to head (27-21) way back on Sept. 27. The only thing that will sell this game is the possibility that it could be Joe Paterno’s last as the Penn State coach.
3. Fiesta: Texas vs. Southern Cal: Because the Fiesta lost its designated host in the Big 12 champion (Oklahoma), it will get to replace the Sooners with Texas, which will be out to prove something after getting left out of the big game. The Fiesta will have to choose between No. 5 Southern Cal and No. 7 Utah (12-0) as the opponent. Assuming Southern Cal will beat Notre Dame and UCLA to finish 11-1 (and that’s a pretty easy assumption), the Fiesta gets the best matchup outside of the BCS championship game.
4. Sugar Bowl: Alabama-Florida loser vs. Utah: Because the Sugar Bowl loses its champion (SEC), it will pick the loser of the SEC championship game as a replacement team. The Fiesta will pick ahead of the Sugar so Southern Cal will be gone. The Sugar takes undefeated Utah. If Florida is on the other side with former Utes coach Urban Meyer, you have an instant story line.
5. Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech vs. Cincinnati: This could change if Virginia beats Virginia Tech in Blacksburg on Saturday because then Georgia Tech (8-3) would go to the ACC championship game. But I don’t think that will happen and Virginia Tech (7-4) will beat Boston College in the ACC championship game to earn the automatic berth in the Orange Bowl. Cincinnati (9-2) will beat Syracuse on Saturday to win the Big East and earn the first New Year’s Day bowl trip in its history.
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Capital One Bowl: Georgia vs. Ohio State: If both Alabama and Florida get a spot in a BCS bowl, the Bulldogs are pretty much a lock to go to Orlando. Ohio State is pulling hard for Oregon on Saturday because if the Ducks beat the Beavers, then Southern Cal goes to the Rose Bowl. Then No. 10 Ohio State would get a BCS at-large bid either to the Fiesta or Sugar.
Gator Bowl: Georgia Tech vs. Nebraska: If the Yellow Jackets (8-3) beat Georgia on Saturday they could be in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. If Tech loses I’m projecting them into the Gator against Nebraska (7-4), assuming the Cornhuskers beat Colorado and finish 8-4. If Notre Dame (6-5) had not lost to Syracuse last Saturday, the Gator Bowl was prepared to take the Fighting Irish at 7-5. We are assuming, of course, that Note Dame will lose and lose big to Southern Cal on Saturday. If West Virginia (7-3) wins its last two games with Pittsburgh and South Florida to finish 9-3, the Gator could take the Mountaineers.
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By Mikey
November 25, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Ton,
You’ve got it all pegged, except the winner of the SECCG. Go ahead and let us know who you think will win it so you can fill in the blanks on the BCSCG and the Sugar Bowl. Pick one…it aint that hard !
By Knocks Culpepper
November 25, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
As I was saying, if OU wins the BCS championship game and Texas beats a quality team like USC in its bowl, there could be a split nat’l championship. And that would be a fair result.
By azcat225
November 25, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
“If you see a flaw in the logic, let me know about it:” Tony, you’ve got far thicker skin than I have. The usual suspects will hurl personal insults at you, but logic will never enter into it for them.
Subject to the obvious caveat that there are still a couple of weeks worth of games left to play, I find no glaring flaws in your scenario.
If the Rose Bowl does end up being a rematch of Oregon State and Penn State, those clowns just got a lesson in karma being a real b!tch. SoCal/Illinois was a joke last year.
By reebok
November 25, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
I don’t think the Chik fil A bowl (Peach sounded SO MUCH BETTER) will take tech because there won’t be a lot of fans travelling in to spend money on hotels & restaurants. I think the Jackets will definitely be in the Gator. Tech vs. W Va would be great.
I hope the BCS blows up completely, and there’s another split national title to provoke the powers-that-be to give fans what we want, a single-elimination tourney to settle it on the field.
By Bamafan
November 25, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
What if Black Saturday happens this weekend? Bama loses to Auburn(my new home would be the funny farm) and Texas and the sooners and the gators all lost? The BCS would be a freaking mess while USC and Penn St. fans loving it!! But folks that is not going to happen, the gators and crimson tide will win by couple of touchdowns this weekend. The sooners game game maybe will be closer than the experts think!! The Capital One Bowl game would be a great to watch if the dawgs and buckeyes play in it!! ROLL TIDE FOLKS!!
By Scott Wallace
November 25, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Where is Nachos?
He is probably making some yummmmmmy chicken nachos for breakfast.
By Georgia Fan
November 25, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Early prediction: Florida 52 Chokelahoma 20
By Dawg Fud
November 25, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
that is complete trash. Texas beat Oklahoma head to head. the system is obviously broken and apprently campaigning gets you into the big game now.
good. screw the rose bowl. i hope they get the crappiest game ever.
no comment
when did the Sugar Bowl become the stage for the non-BCS conferences?
ZZZZzzzzzz…and I was born and raised in Virginia.
Bonus:
*re-matchup of the ‘93 Citrus. i don’t know if Georgia can handle Pryor, though.
*that will actually be a great game. jackets are looking really good right now.
By Jason Cyrus Ohanian
November 25, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
A couple of things. One if there is Bedlam in Stillwater, then good chance Texas Tech goes to NC game even though they lost by 40 pts which is crazy. Two, If OU loses to Mizzou who is by far the forgotten team of 2008, then who goes? Third, if OU beats Bama or Florida, and Texas beats USC, the AP should name Texas their NC champ. Thoughts Tony? Also, why does the Sugar keep getting such awful teams like Hawaii last year and Utah this year? Happy Thanksgiving Y’all, and God bless y’all.
By Buzziswiser
November 25, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Tony,
Alabama-Florida is not a team. You gotta pick. The closest line on any of the key games is Oregon-Oregon State. With an Oregon win, SoCal goes to the Rose Bowl, and Utah goes to the Fiesta, leaving the Sugar with Boise State/Ohio State vs. the SEC loser. My guess is Ohio State which blows-up your Capital One Bowl.
By Wow
November 25, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
Oklahoma apparently cannot make it to the BCS title game without somebody getting royally screwed over. The streak continues. This time they may go over a team that BEAT THEM. Unfreakingbelievable. I can’t wait for the final BCS standings to come out ‘cause I’m running low on toilet paper.
By Navigator
November 25, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
ROSE BOWL: How bad is their management to continue the big 10 champ and pac 10 champ agreement. It could be the lowest ranked bowl amongst the top 10 bowls. Penn State would be great, but OSU, what a dog of a rematch. At least the other bowls only tie themselves to one conference not two. How about the Big Twelve’s third best team (probably 11-1) having to play in the cotton bowl’s (dilapidated old old stadium). It’s amazing to me that teams would rather play on New Years day, competing against 3 other games and usually less than full stadiums, rather than play on New Years eve in a rocking socking Chic-fil-A Bowl with a packed crowd (71,000+) in front of a national audience, as the only game to watch.
By SC Rules!!!
November 25, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
My thinking on this is we end up as Co-Champions and the powers to be will work a back door deal to ensure the Fiesta passes on SoCal to ensure they play the Lizards in the Sugar Bowl. ‘Bama will claim their “13th” NC in Miami and the world goes on. ‘Bama will be a sure fire bet to run the table next year too, well that is until they play the MEN of TROY and Coach Carroll puts a new lesson in pain down on the Tide.
By SEC Chumps
November 25, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
You friggin make me sick, Tony Barnyard and the Rest of the you chumps; your sense of entitlement has come to define you. If Alabama wins out they are worthy of the Championship game, they will have earned it, if they lose then they are just another on the many 1 lose teams. I would have to add if Alabama loses to Florida, they, Texas, TT and OU only lost to teams ranked in the top 5. USC lost early to a team that will be ranked in the top 10 or 15 if they beat Oregon. However Florida choked to a bottom feeder and is no more entitled to the Championship than Penn State, maybe less so. They are playing well right now, but alas we don’t have a playoff system so they have to pay for their early loss just like USC, OU, and Texas and everyone else.
Get over yourselves.
By Atlanta Gator
November 25, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Comments in response to Tony——
(1) No. Texas and Oklahoma have the same records. Texas beat Oklahoma in a neutral site game, convincingly.The regular season counts. Big game results count. Texas should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma. Period.
Knocks Culpepper is right in his prediction. Putting Oklahoma in the BCS title game ahead of Texas leads to split 2008 AP/BCS “championships.” And that ain’t right. Head-to-head games matter. Damn it.
In the other half of the bracket, yes, the Alabama-Florida SEC winner goes to the BCS title game, assuming the SEC champion doesn’t lose to either Auburn or Florida State.
(2) Rose Bowl? Do they still play that game? Oh, I remember when the Rose Bowl used to matter … back when the Pac-10 had more than one team, and the Big Ten still played Division I football. yawn
(3) Fairness, justice, and logic dictate that Oklahoma rather than Texas should go to the Fiesta Bowl. See my comments above.
(4) Either way, Utah gets stomped by a disappointed and angry SEC runner-up, thereby setting back the cause of the so-called non-BCS schools. When did the Sugar Bowl become the consolation prize for the SEC runner-up? Well, I guess that happened when the SEC champion started playing in the BCS title game on a regular basis. Into everyone’s life a little rain must fall … . When does the Sugar Bowl get the BCS title game again? New Orleans, even with a third of the town still abandoned, is a much better bowl venue than any of the other BCS bowl sites.
(5) Good grief. Talk about your consolation prizes. Notwithstanding my occasional tweaking of the Big Ten, does anyone really believe that the ACC and Big East champions are more deserving of a BCS bowl bid than Big Ten runner-up Ohio State or Big XII South third-place Texas Tech? Another couple of years of the current ACC and Big East performances, and their automatic New Year’s bowl bids may be in serious jeopardy. On the other hand, with the ACC and Big East, can the remaining BCS schools sustain the current BCS arrangement? The Day of Reckoning is coming when Boise State and Utaj have a better claim to a BCS at-large bid than the ACC and Big East … .
(6) Georgia is the last man standing who isn’t going to play in the SEC championship game, but they better pull their business together or they risk ending the SEC’s history of dominating Ohio State. The Buckeyes are due for a win against the SEC, and the Dawgs continue to limp … Time for the Dawgs to man up and beat Tech before they can think about the Buckeyes.
(7) If you’re right, Tony, and Georgia Tech beats Nebraska in a bowl, that could be Paul Johnson’s signature win on the road to rebuilding the Yellowjacket football program.
By Steve
November 25, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
So Texas will watch a Big 12 championship game between two teams that it beat by a combined total of 35 points.
Texas gets punished for losing on the road on the last play of the game, and at the end of a punishing 4-game stretch against Top 12 teams.
Meanwhile OU gets style points for clubbing Tech — at home and after an off week.
Is this a great system or what?
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
UT beat OU conincingly at a neutral site. If we discount that, then we are already diminishing the importance of regular season games and might as well have a playoff system.
FU(K the BCS, it’s computer and the rankings!
Settle it on the field.
By rabidawg
November 25, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Tony, Are you looking at the same BCS poll as me. Mine shows Texas #2 in computers and #4 in both human polls. OK is #3 in computers and #2 and #3 in human polls.
By leland
November 25, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Mr. TB—I don’t see nothing wrong with it myself, but I don’t give a hoot neither. Jesus is on my side. Your pal, Leland
By GWJ
November 25, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Concerning an earlier comment regarding Tech’s fan base not spending any money in Atlanta (hotels, restaurants, etc). That would be no different for Jacksonville or ANY bowl game. Tech’s fan base DOES not travel. They can’t even sell out “Grunt” field!!
By Clint
November 25, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Why wouldn’t the Fiesta Bowl take Texas Tech over Texas then? I’d rather see them get a shot at the big time instead of a Texas team that lost to them.
By mcdawg
November 25, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
sounds right but i would love to see USC play in the sugar bowl
UGA could get the best match up outside the BCS but no one will notice since their “fans” are too busy whining and crying about how disappointed they are -OSU and UGAs season are quite similar in terms of expectations and injuries-very intriguing match up
By Gen Neyland
November 25, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
The stars are aligned. Collision course set and plotted. All that stands in the way are a few malfunctions that the right refs can’t fix. Atlanta Gator You are dead on regarding Texas over Oklahoma at this time. Sagarin agrees, too. Colt McCoy has my early vote for Tim’s trophy…Still some football to play, and by golly, the Lions of Mount Nittany have their collective fingers crossed for all ahead of them to stumble…
I wish I may, I wish I might, have this wish I wish tonight. Signed, JoePa
By Will
November 25, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Big Tone,
The way the season has played out…I’m glad the dawgs are not stuck on only 1 loss. Even if we would have come back to beat Bama, we still wouldn’t be in discussion for the SEC, NC game or Sugar Bowl. And who wants to play another lightweitht like Utah in that game again. So as far as I’m concerned, UGA fans should be greatful & excited for the best bowl game outside the BCS. Either Ohio State or Michigan State would be fantastic. I feel better about the season already.
By Greg
November 25, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Of course, I’m hoping Tech is in the Orange Bowl when all is said and done. If that doesn’t happen, I think we’re in the Gator Bowl. I’d rather not see another Tech-WVA bowl game. Much rather see a Tech-Nebraska Gator Bowl.
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
UTAH?
In the Sugar Bowl?
How lame is that?!!!
It ought to be OK (see above) or, at least, USC!
By IM4BAMA
November 25, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
I think it’s safe to say that just about half of everything you predict is a waste of time and will be incorrect. You probably are right about the BCS championship.
I predict that Oregon beats Oregon State.
It would be a crime to put Utah in the Sugar bowl. Hopefully they will go to the Fiesta instead. My doomsday scenerio would be for Alabama lose to UF and wind up playing Utah. That’s ok for UF but I want a Big-12 opponet for the Tide.
I love bowls games but only if they have good matchups. This is getting ridiculous with teams like Utah,Boise State and Cincinatti in major bowls. Nobody wants to see that. No offense to those schools, they deserve a bowl, just not a BCS bowl.
I would love to see:
Alabama vs. OU Florida vs. USC Penn State vs. Texas Texas Tech vs. Georgia Georgia Tech vs. Ohio State Utah vs. Virgina Tech or Nebraska
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Man, Texas Tech takes one in the ear!
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
IM4BAMA:
“That’s ok for UF (playing Utah) but I want a Big 12 opponent(sic) for the Tide.”
How generous of you!
Just for that, I hope we kick your a*******ses!!!!
GATORS BY TWO TOUCHDOWNS!
By JOE-NY
November 25, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
OK, I think it will be Florida and Texas that go. Remember, Oklahoma State has a real shot at beating Oklahoma. If that happens, then it oppens a Matchup for Mizzou and Texas Tech in Big 12 Champ Game and I believe Mizzou may take it. That opens up for Texas to go to the NC.
Florida goes with a matchup straight up against Alabama in SECCG. Florida has not really had a chance to showcase itself in national stage but I believe florida can take it.
Don’t know its a toss up.
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
You johnny-come-lately Alabama fans kill me!
The first decent team you’ve had since George H W Bush was President and you sound like you’ve already won the BCSCG!
Ha!
The Gators are going to crucify you idiots!!!!!
By mexdawg
November 25, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Don’t look now gators but the Urban Cryer is probally headed to Nortre Dame.Probally will happen after USC beatdown of ND.Don’t worry the old ball coachwill will probally come back.
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
mexdawg:
Funny.
Truthfully though, the NFL teams are all going to some form of the spread offense at some point in the (near) future and Coach Meyer will be at the top of any pro team’s prospects to bring and implement it.
If we’re scared, say we’re scared?
We’re scared!
By bama12titles
November 25, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
I also think Ok St. has a real shot against OU. And should that happen and then Mizzou beats Tex. Tech in the big 12 title game it really would throw everything into a mess. We would be back to the debate about whether or not a team that can’t even win its own division(Texas) would be worthy of a national title game appearance.
I can see both sides of the Texas-OU debate. Texas did beat OU head to head but if you use that logic than how can you say Texas deserves to go over Texas Tech? After all, Tech did beat them head to head. Forget about the blowout loss to OU, they did beat Texas.
You have 3 teams that no matter who goes one of the other 2 can sit there and say “Why do they get to go when we beat them head to head?” So you should then look at the games between each of them and come to the logical conclusion that the Texas-OU and Texas-TexasTech games were very competitive. The OU-Tech game was a beatdown of unbelievable proportions. Does anyone who saw OU dismantle Tech a week or 2 after Tech beat Texas really think that Texas would beat OU in a rematch? Could Texas have beaten the OU team last week that obliterrated Texas Tech? Probably not.
They can always argue that they beat OU head to head and that ultimately that is what should count. But then why should they go in front of Texas Tech (which they lost to)to the conference championship game. And why should they go ahead of OU even if they did win head to head. After all, Texas lost to a Tech team that got pummeled by 51 pts by OU nly a week or 2 later.
We could go round and round but if the pollsters are going by style points then I’ve no problem with them taking OU.
By Call it
November 25, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
BCS National Championship game: Florida vs Oklahoma. Result: Oklahoma beats Florida like Nebraska did in the 1996 Fiesta Bowl….bad. Urban Crier accepts job at Tennessee where expectations are considerably lower.
Rose Bowl: Penn State vs Oregon State. Result: Since it WON’T be JoePa’s last game, it will most likely be the lowest rated bowl game in history. Penn State still wins but no one will care.
Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. Utah. Result: Alabama wins with field goal in double overtime. Team unable to get motivated after losing to Auburn and Florida back-to-back.
Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech vs Cincinnati. Result: Rose Bowl is now the second lowest rated bowl game in history.
Capital One Bowl: Georgia vs Ohio State. Result: Ohio State becomes 1-9 against SEC. As punishment, Georgia is voted out of the conference and replaced by Arkansas State
Gator Bowl: Georgia Tech vs Nebraska. Result: Since no one from Georgia Tech plans to attend the game, it is relocated to Nebraska to help out the farmers in this time of economic crisis. (P.S. if you see the GT football players on the side of the road, please buy some Krispi Kremes to help fund the trip).
By bama12titles
November 25, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
g8r grad,
You calling Bama fans Johnny come lately? Good lord. Now I’ve heard it all. A Florida program that was everybody’s punching bag for the first 100 years of its existence calling someone else a Johnny come lately. Florida has only been good during the Spurrier years of the 90s and the last 3 years under Meyer. Other than that their program has historically been a joke. You’ve been good for about the last 15 years Mr. Johnny come lately.
If we want to compare traditions then your tradition compared to the Bama legacy is comparable to that of a gnat on on my big Crimson elephant’s @zz!
And for your information its only been a couple years since we’ve been in the national spotlight. Surely you remember our 2005 team which pummeled you 31-3 and spent most of the season ranked #3 to number #5 before finally losing in the 10th game in OT. Johnny come lately my arse!
All I know is that we’ve been underdogs in our last 4 against the Gators and won 3 of them including 2 blowouts 31-3 and 34-7 in the 99 sec championship game. Its funny but no one seems to be giving us a chance this year against the gators. Just like in 3 of the last 4 we played you!!!!
By NoSoup4U
November 25, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
It is interesting that almost everyone all season long has not given Alabama much of a chance. I mean, it is almost like they do not want them to win out. This is a great story for Alabama. Now, down to business.
SECCG: Florida has a real good offense, obviously. Their passing game is great and the running game is average. Their defense can be great, but the trend is average as well. Florida has not played a defense like Alabama’s this year. Tim Tebow is outstanding and we will get to see the very best of him in this game. Florida has a way of gelling when times get rough.
Alabama has one of, if not, the best defenses in the nation. All year long they have consistently stopped the run. This was done against several NFL prospect running backs. There is a lot that can be said about that. The secondary for Alabama is stellar too! They have the most interceptions returned for touchdowns than any other team in the nation. Alabama’s offense is average, but they do have one thing Florida does not; many good running backs. If Alabama can not get their offense going with the passing game, they will run the ball. They are 5 backs deep in that position. They will run exhaust any defense in the nation from running the ball.
It will be a great game to watch. Whoever wins this game truly deserves it because both teams are two of the best in the nation this year. It is razzle dazzle versus grit.
Alabama will beat Florida because of their stellar defense and smash mouth running game. The score for either team will not get above 28.
Alabama: 21 Florida: 17
By Get Real
November 25, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
SC Rules,
I think Bama may win the title this year, but I don’t think they run the table next year. They will have a new qb as well as the o line will take a little hit. A top ten team, definitely, but not running the table.
By SEC Worst Nightmare
November 25, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
Florida Loses to FS, beats Alabama in SEC CCG, final poll Florida #5, Alabama #6. OU loses to Ok St. Texas wins Big 12. Texas vs USC in BCS NC. USC beats Texas 41-38 last minute TD. Pete Carroll’s Trojans get vengeance for 2006 BCS NC at the Rose Bowl.
By Rusty Pecker
November 25, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
We ALABAMA fans are not johnny come lately. we have suffered through 9 years of probation(dublows), traitor coaches(franphony), drunk buffoons(price), useless retarded coaching(shula) and on and on and on and on. we are not like the dawwwgs fans who only put on their cars flags the day after a big win.
By AUBURN is not a gimmee game
November 25, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
BAMA BETTER WORRY ABOUT AUBURN,before they start running their mouth about beating FLORIDA.—6 in a row for the WAR EAGLES.
By Darryl
November 25, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Tony, I get it Florida is a very good team but no one has brought up the fact that Florida has only played 3 road games this year. They were on the road against Tennessee (even Wyoming survived that test), Arkansas (not even bowl eligible in an age when everyone should be bowl eligible) and Vandy. Sure on paper Florida is better than FSU and should win against FSU, but on at home Texas Tech looked pretty unstoppable too.(plus FSU is playing pretty good ball) Shouldn’t we at least see Florida play one road game against a true top 25 team before we annoint them to the thrown of college football. Surely if Florida wasn’t in the over rated, yes this year OVER RATED offense anemic SEC, this flaw would have been brought up.
By .....George Washington Carver
November 25, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
I hope Florida loses their last 3 games to end up 10-4 at the end of the season. Same goes for Oklahoma. -Urban Meyer and Bob Stoops are both trash with no class.
By Atlanta Gator
November 25, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
bama12titles——I know you were rising to the bait offered by G8R GRAD, but you may want to show some modicum of respect for your opposition.
In the Gator football world view, all time is divided into two parts, B.E.G. and A.E.G. That is, Before the Evil Genius (1906-89) and After the Evil Genius (1990 to present). The Dividing line is 1990, when Steven Orr Spurrier became the ol’ ball coach at the University of Florida.
In the 19 (not 15) seasons that have followed during the AEG era, the Gator football team has won 7 SEC championships (including 6 SEC championship games), and has played for 2 more. In 11 days, the Gators will make their 9th appearance in the SEC championship game in 17 seasons. Not bad, by any standard. During the AEG era, Florida has won 7 championships, LSU and Tennessee 3, Alabama and Georgia 2, Auburn 1. The Gators also won 2 national championships during that same time (and played for a third); LSU has also won 2 MNCs, and Alabama and Tennessee 1 each.
Head to head with Alabama, the Gators have beaten the Tide in 4 of the 6 regular season games they have played since 1990. The Gators and the Tide have met in the SEC championship game 5 times, and the Gators have won 3 of the 5 games. The two teams will meet for the 6th time in 2008 SEC CG. Strangely, Bama has never played anyone other than Florida in the SEC CG.
All of which is a long way of saying, sure, the BEG Gators had an 83-year history of futility, but they sure have done pretty well over the past 19 seasons.
Please accept my apologies for the overstated enthusiasm of some of the younger fans among my fellow Gator alumni, including G8R GRAD. Some of the younger ones literally can’t remember when Florida football was truly mediocre.
So, accept out best wishes for the Auburn game. The Gators want the privilege of playing an undefeated Alabama team, because if and when the Gators beat the Tide, it will mean something more. May the best team earn the right to educate the Big XII as to the merits of SEC football.
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
SEC Nightmare:
Are you fantasizing with one hand again?
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
UF 34
UA 16
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
But Atlanta Gator, it’s so easy (and so much fun) to bait these guys!
By NO RUNNING UP THE SCORE... LEFT BEHIND
November 25, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
BOB STOOPS and URBAN MEYER ARE SLIME
By Atlanta Gator
November 25, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
G8R GRAD——Just a thought, but it never hurts to show a little respect for the other guys, before and after the game is played. The Tide fans seem to think their football program has done pretty well over the years, too.
By G8R GRAD
November 25, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Point taken.
I’ll calm down.
Go Gators.
By Atlanta Gator
November 25, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
Gen Neyland——Well, if my opinions had any real value I would have been invited to be a Harris Interactive Poll voter, right? LOL
By Erk
November 25, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Possible scenario:
Okla State beats Oklahoma and Missouri beats Texas Tech in the Big 12 championship. Oregon State wins Pac 10. Texas plays the Bama/Florida winner in the BCS chmp game because they have more impressive wins compared to 1 loss USC & Penn State. Texas plays Florida in the championship game despite not winning their conference.
So suddenly in one year it now doesn’t matter that you don’t win your conference despite it disqualifying Georgia last year.
By Spike
November 25, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Urban Meyer to Notre Dame Tony? What is the word on that, Mr. College Football?
By Huh G8R
November 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Are you denying the possibility Florida could lose to FSU? And if they did, and than beat Alabama do you think either would play for the BCS title?
Here’s what would happen. If Florida loses to FSU they will drop 5 spots to at lest # 9, the best team with 2 loses. If they beat Alabama the next week they move back up but not ahead of any team that only has 1 lose and was ranked in front of them and didn’t lose. Alabama would drop behind Florida but ahead of any other team with 2 loses. If OU loses to Ok St. Texas will play Mizz for the Big 12 CCG.
This is not likely but it certainly isn’t fantasy, after all you are not invincible. Remember Ole Miss?
By ErK?
November 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Why are we talking about Georgia? Aren’t they are headed to the Capitol One Bowl? Damn UGA fans, what a bunk of friggin cry in your beer whiners. No need to considered 2 loss team this season. Go play little boy, you got no Dawg in this hunt. (pun intended)
By BAMA STAN
November 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
31-0 at the half?!!
Rooting for the DUCKS to beat the beavers!!!
That would give UGA (the Michigan State of the SEC by virtue of their historic 5th place standing in the SEC) a Captial ONE match up against……….MICHIGAN STATE.
Actually, this would be a very good game!!!
**RRROOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!
By No Stan This Will Good
November 25, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Stan this will be good. After all the smack UGAy has talked. They go to the Capitol One Bowl and Ohio State spanks them, God wouldn’t that be great?
By Erk
November 25, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Hey Erk?, first of all I’m not whining about UGA not playing last year’s NC game. I think you should have to win your conference to play for the NC. My point is that the credentials/rules should not change from year to year and the BCS deserves the most confusing scenario possible.
By Dogbyte
November 25, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this
My original question was: Who cares? After scrolling down I see. Then my question becomes: Who cares about who cares?
By J.P. Sartre
November 25, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
That’s a very existential question, Dogbyte, and, perhaps, beyond the scope of today’s blog.
By Soonerndn
November 25, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this
OU , Texas…nutral ground…Duuu.. playing in Texas, got real
By SC Rules!!!
November 25, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Lizard fans: Sure you want to play USC in the Sugar Bowl???? USC Defense: 1: Scoring defense national ranking (8.3 ppg) 1: Pass defense national ranking (162.0 yards per game) 1: Pass efficiency defense national ranking (84.3) 2: Total defense national ranking (222.5 ypg) 3: Shutouts posted 3: Passing touchdowns allowed 6: Rushing defense national ranking (90.2) 8: Opponents held to 100 rushing yards or less 8: Opponents held to under 250 total yards 8: Opponents held to 14 points or less 10: Touchdowns allowed 14: Drives allowed of 50-plus yards allowed 19: Points allowed in the second half 28.8: Third down conversion percentage allowed
USC Trojans #1!!!!! Fight On!!!
By Dogbyte
November 25, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!
By Dogbyte
November 25, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this
This is the week of Dawgs vs. Bugs. Anything else is irrelevant.
By Call it gets it
November 25, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this
funny, man
By Rebel Charlie
November 25, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this
How ‘bout them Ole Miss Rebels, Tony, Mr. College Football. Where are you going to put them? Next year, we are talking serious BCS for the Johnny Rebs. —Rebel Charlie
By PIGSken
November 25, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this
Texas beat Okla straight up by 10 points. Case closed. Head-to-head should settle it. Also if Bama loses close game to Auburn and smokes Florida, then they can still play Texas or Oklahoma for title. Why should Bama be out or behind other one loss teams just because they lost late instead of earlier?
By NO NICK SABAN ... GREED LEFT BEHIND
November 26, 2008 1:38 AM | Link to this
I think AUBURN is MAN ENOUGH to beat alabama, even with this year’s shakey team.-Make it 7 in a row for old times sake.
By elephant dung
November 26, 2008 1:40 AM | Link to this
WAR EAGLE
By longtimeSEC FAN
November 26, 2008 7:34 AM | Link to this
dawgs lose to GT and the music city big deal is calling you-LOL
By Rusty Pecker
November 26, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
You barners have NO CHANCE Saturday and you know it. Its revenge time baby!
By PTC DAWG
November 26, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Well at least ONE Gator fan realizes that UF’s history goes beyond 1990.
You can’t just compare and contrast programs from some date YOU deem important. All SEC Titles count.
That said, I hope FSU and AU throw a monkey wrench into the grinder. :)