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SEC champ will still play in BCS title game
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Five things we learned over the weekend:
1. SEC champ will still play for the BCS title: I know some Florida fans who were nervous Sunday night when the new BCS Standings were released and the Gators were No. 4 behind Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma. They were worried that if Florida beats No. 1 Alabama in the SEC championship game on Dec. 6, they could get squeezed out when Texas and Oklahoma move into the top two spots and play in the big game.
First of all, what the Gators and their fans should be worried right now is Saturday’s trip to No. 20 Florida State. Consider this early warning stat: Florida has traveled to Tallahassee five times to play the week before appearing in the SEC championship game. The Gators are 1-3-1 in those games. Florida State was pretty impressive in beating Maryland on the road 37-3.
If Alabama beats Auburn on Saturday and then beats Florida, the Crimson Tide is obviously in. If Florida beats No. 20 and beats No. 1 they are in and here’s why: Remember that only one of the Big 12 teams ranked ahead of Florida can play in the Big 12 championship game. If No. 3 Oklahoma beats No. 12 Oklahoma State on Saturday, I think it will be the Sooners. The other Big 12 team will not be playing on Dec. 6. Remember last year when Georgia, who was idle on Championship Saturday, saw all those teams that played in conference championship games jump over them in the final standings? The same thing happens here. So if Oklahoma wins the Big 12 championship and Florida wins the SEC championship, the Gators will benefit from a better record (12-1) and jump over Texas (11-1) into No. 1 or No. 2.
I’ll break down top five teams in the BCS and how they can get to the big game in Tuesday’s blog.
2. If Georgia’s players are not concerned about Saturday’s game in Athens, they probably should be: Georgia Tech has a couple of big things going for them on Saturday against Georgia. No. 1, the Yellow Jackets are going to be very excited about playing this game. I could be wrong, but I just don’t get the sense that the Bulldogs are that jacked up about playing the state rival. No. 2, any team that can run for 472 yards against a pretty athletic defense like Miami’s is to be respected. Georgia has had a week off to get rested and to prepare for Tech’s option attack. And if Georgia plays with a lot of energy, the Bulldogs have more talent and should win. But if Georgia thinks it can get by on talent alone, it will be a long afternoon at Sanford Stadium.
3. Dabo Swinney is close to getting the Clemson job: Tommy Bowden is a good guy but there is no question that Clemson has been playing with a little more zip since Dabo Swinney took control of the program in October. The Tigers went on the road Saturday and beat Virginia to go 6-5. Clemson must beat South Carolina at Death Valley to qualify for a bowl because the Tigers had two Division I-AA teams on their schedule this season. If Clemson beats South Carolina, I think Swinney is a lock to get the job. If the Tigers lose but play tough, he still could get it.
4. Tennessee fans might want to rethink Mike Leach: Don’t get me wrong. I like to watch Leach’s Texas Tech teams play. And the Red Raiders have had a wonderful season. But Saturday night at Oklahoma it was time to play big boy football on the road and the Sooners destroyed Texas Tech 65-21. Understand that in the SEC you have to play three or four of these types of games every season. These are physical football games where finesse tends to get overwhelmed by brute strength. Alabama will be that kind of team as long as Nick Saban is there. Leach is a good coach but not a fit for Tennessee or the SEC.
5. Houston Nutt is going to be the SEC coach of the year: The guy that a portion of the Arkansas fan base ran out of town is probably going to take Ole Miss to a very good bowl. Nutt’s Rebels just destroyed LSU on Saturday and a win at home over Mississippi State probably puts them in the Cotton, Outback, or Chick-fil-A bowls. Yes, Nutt made some mistakes at Arkansas and he has been justly criticized for them. All I know is that he took a group of players who couldn’t get out of their own way last season and build them into a pretty good team—the only team to beat No. 4 Florida this season.




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Comments
By Aaron
November 24, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this
Sorry Tony, regardless what happens these last two weeks Nick Saban is coach of the year this year. A team goes from 7-6 to ast least 11 wins and a chance at an SEC & National titles he’s coach of the year.
By Nachos
November 24, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
Are you kidding me Tony Jabroni? Nick Saban is the SEC and College Football coach of the year. I think you need to lay off the cough syrup big boy.
By bigdawg01
November 24, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
UGA’s season regardless of potential 11-2 will be defined by 42-30, and 49-10. We beat a much “weaker” than expected schedule with an obvious peak at LSU. This is the last chance for the Dawgs to make a statement against a much improved GT. GO DAWGS, see you in Athens Town!
I am the biggest FSU fan in the world this weekend. GOD, I HATE FL.
By JB
November 24, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
DAWGS 42- GT 31
By Mikey
November 24, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Saban has done a wonderful job, but Nutt has done a better one with the talent he inherited…
By EatontonJacket
November 24, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
Tony,
Very nice article. I agree with you on Houston Nutt. He has done a very good job this year, and I think he has the best QB this side of Gainesville. He has taken advantage of the apparent void in the middle of the SEC this year. Do you think they can take advantage of this from a recruiting standpoint? My understanding is that Ole Miss can be a tough sell.
As a Tech fan, I have always been perplexed by Clemson and their desires at the head coaching position. Bowden is a great guy, but if Tech refused to stand for percieved mediocrity with Gailey, why would it take Clemson so long to dump Bowden. I am sorry, but, if I am a Clemson fan, I look elsewhere. This SHOULD be a great job. Dabo does infuse a lot of enthusiasm, but he seems like an unstable circus clown. There is something very fishy about this guy; I could wrong. There has been no ACC program hurt more by the addition of FSU; even as FSU has dropped off, they have not stepped up to the head of the conference.
BTW, I do not want him there, but how about Leach at Clemson?
As for Athens. I hope Tech plays like they did against Miami. If they do, this could be a great game! I am afraid Georgia is due to put it together for this game. With Johnson at the helm, this is setting up to be a big time game in the future! It would be sweet to have a Tech-Georgia game the weekend before they both head off to their respective conference championships.
Who will win coach of the year in the ACC?
Thanks
By longtimeSEC FAN
November 24, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
to bigdawg01 and other butt sniffers of his ilk: You gave me my laugh of the day- you would HATE Agnes Scott if they humbled you 16 of 19. But cheer up-remember gymnastics.
By D-Man
November 24, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
HEY NACHOS…STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON TONY. JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH HIM DOESNT MEAN YOU NEED TO GET PERSONAL. EITHER YOU ARE A HIGHSCHOOLER WHO DOESNT KNOW BETTER, OR YOUR A UNEDUCATED LOSER LIVING IN YOUR MOMMA’S BASEMENT. EITHER WAY CHILL WITH THE CHILDISH BANTER.
By GTMike
November 24, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
I am pleased that Tech-Georgia is a close fight this year. The Dawgs do have more talent and more depth. But we have beaten other teams with talent and depth. It will come down to mistakes, and Tech does have a much younger team…young teams often are more mistake prone.
By Tech Fan in UGA Country
November 24, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
Tony, I disagree with you about Mike Leach and what success he would have at Tennessee. One bad game does not condemn his approach or season. UGA got distroyed by Alabama and Florida. Does that mean that Mark Richt’s system won’t work in the SEC? (And they even got beat at home.) At Texas Tech, he has no where near the talent level that Oklahoma, or Texas for that matter, does. He managed to defeat Texas. You normally preach how hard it is to go through a difficult schedule without at least one bad game. This was that game. The Big 12 South is every bit as tough as the SEC East this year. Don’t write off Mike Leach because of one game. UT does not have a “bulit in” talent base to recruit from like UGA and Florida. They have to recruit nationally to compete. A fun, high scoring offense is one way to recruit the kind of talent they will need. BTW, you were probably predicting that Paul Johnson’s offense wouldn’t work at this level either …
By bhamwreck
November 24, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
Dabo Swinney? Really? He reminds me of an overexcited camp counselor. He needs to mature some I think before he is ready to be a head coach of a major program like Clemson.
By bigdawg01
November 24, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Longtime LOSER, Obviously you are from the jean shorts ilk. For that, i am truly sorry. Are you going to the game this weekend? Tell me are you wearing a sweet 15 jersey, or that new tank top from Wal-mart. I am willing to bet you did not even go to FL or any SEC school. But hey, that DeVry deploma looks great on the trailer wall.
By PTC DAWG
November 24, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Obviously, Nutt can do some serious Coaching…
IF Bama wins out and goes 12-0, I would give the nod to Saban for SEC COTY.
Oh yeah, the gnats, they go down hard in Athens.
By GTMike
November 24, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Tony, won’t the fact that the SEC is weak this year and is only the #3 rated conference behind the Big XII and the ACC hurt the SEC champs in all the computer models??
By Gene
November 24, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
If Georgia continues its record-pace penalties, Tech will win. Richt’s remedy for unsportsmanlike conduct seems to be to yell at the referee.
By AlphaDog
November 24, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Hey BIGDAWG, just a NOTE: UGA is still 6th or 7th in SOS according to Saragin.
By Got 12?
November 24, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
In my opinion, Nick Saban is the coach of the year. Bama (7-6 last year) is 11-0 this year; has only 9 scholarship seniors (fewest in FBS); and plays 16 freshman (third most in FBS).
UGA’s defense lacks discipline (penalties, blown assignments) which plays into Tech’s hands. But, Tech is fumble-prone and less talented than UGA. This should be a high-scoring, exciting game.
By Lt. Frank Dreben
November 24, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Georgia has too much skill for Georgia Tech. Georgia wins, but it will be interesting.
By Miles
November 24, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Mr. Barnhart, you’re absolutely right in stating that, “Leach is…not a fit for Tennessee or the SEC.” Thank you!
By VLB
November 24, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Your comment about Mike Leach not being suitable for “big-boy football” is about as patronizing as it is silly.
They play big-boy football in the Big 12 and Texas Tech has won a big-boy game or two already, including against Texas and Missouri.
I know that as Mr. College Football you are aware that Texas Tech and Oklahoma exist in two different stratospheres as far as recruiting goes. Tech is about third dog in Texas, arguably fourth dog behind Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has recruited as well as anyone and played in as many big games as anyone over the last decade.
Texas Tech walked into a buzz saw, but Oklahoma is an extremely talented team that has been playing exceptionally well recently and for most of the year.
I think that Tennessee historically and recently is a program fully capable of signing great players. It isn’t in my interest for them to do so, but they usually do.
As for finessee not playing in the SEC? Florida had absolutely dominated this league since 1990 playing finessee football. Neither Spurrier nor Meyer’s offense is/was designed around lining up and knocking the other guy’s head off.
It is unclear where you get the patronizing idea that finesse doesn’t play in this league.
All in all, you deserve a penalty flag for unnecessary condescencion.
Vance Brabham
By m
November 24, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
There is no doubt that the sec is the weakest it has been is several years. No way alabammer would be undefeated if the sec wasn’t so weak and floriduh couldn’t even beat ole miss…a team that lost to wake forest. The sec team will probably get into the bcs championship game, but this year they won’t get to play a patsy like ohio st and make not mistake about it…the sec will get the helle beat out of them. Also the most overrated team in the history of the world, ugag, is going to get the helle beat out of them Saturday…probably in similar fashion to the Miami beat down on Thursday. And as always, Thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone forever….you idiot dawg fans are really going to miss him on saturday.
By SC Rules!!!
November 24, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Mike Leach won’t be in the SEC anytime soon, he LOVES to throw the ball 80% of the time and well that just goes agaisnt the grain of most dyed in the wool SEC fans. Sure y’all like to like to see hte ball in the air once in a while but like Coach Bryant famously said: “There’s only three things can happen when you pass and two are bad” Leach will probably end up in the PAC-10 if TT doesn’t open up an oil well somewhere for him.
As for the comments about Coach Nutt as coach of the year, I can see the point and really don’t have any problems with that selection, he’s a good coach but in the end the Tide faithful are correct to point out that what they have accomplished this season is trully remarkable. But in the end it will be Coach Pete Carroll who will be named coach of the year! He has done a great job bringing a team that has more talent than half the NFL and all the rest of the country, who Yes, blew the OrSt GAME and was on the edge of the abiss and has them in position to at the least win a 7th consecutive (albeit CO)CHAMPIONSHIP and a spot possibly in the NC game. If that isn’t great coaching then well, I just don’t know. They could have very easily tanked the season once they were toppled from the top perch, but he wouldn’t let them. He made ‘em look him in the eye and answer the question of what they are made of. The Stanford game was his 100th as head coach at USC his record: 85-15 with only one loss by more than 7 points. This after he started 2-5 that first year. That my friends spells GREAT COACHING!!!
By ArkyTech
November 24, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
I don’t think any coach who left Arkansas in the shambles it was in this year should be considered for SEC coach of the year. Not to mention losing to Vandy at home and beating a depleted Arkansas team because of a horrendous pass interference call. Ole Miss fans better soak this year up. Just wait till Nutt gets his players in Oxford.
And as Tech fan, I hope Dabo gets the job.
By Nachos
November 24, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
HEY D-MAN NEXT TIME YOU POST MAKE SURE THE CAPS LOCK IS OFF YOU TOOL! Poor little D-Man… sticking up for his fellow UGAy graduate Barnhardt… your both losers. WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT D-MAN? Does the D stand for douche???? Choke on that slap nuts.
By ROLL TIDE
November 24, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Saban is the Coach of the Year, hands down. He has a team that had little or no pre-season respect, 24th in the polls and this deep they’re undefeated. Ask the ‘Dawgs how easy it is to be number one when you still have sparling clean uniforms but once your butt hits the turf and you actually PLAY football, being number then is what counts. Some other SEC teams better worry about how far reaching Saban may be able to reach out to ‘steal’ some of their recruits. ROLL TIDE BABY, ROLL TIDE!!!!
By Cynthia Tucker fan
November 24, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
D-Man = Barnhardt in disguise
By RAMBLE ON!!!
November 24, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
m, where you been, I was worried…
Tony, Yes Houston Nutt should be SEC coach of the year, but is that worth even writing about?
No, the SEC stinks….the most over hyped/ranked conference in history.
Regain your creditability and say it Tony. Post your preseason top 25 for a good laugh or two. Haha, you had three teams in the top 10 that’s not even in the top 25 now.
By bigdawg01
November 24, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
M, You are still a loser. Dont worry, your hairy armed, computer generated girlfriend will make you feel all better on Saturday after GT loses. Get back in the basement, Nerd!
By DawginLex
November 24, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Hey Where is Bama stan ???
Getting used to being in hiding after the Illini-tide get run by florida in the Dome.
63-10
It will be at least 28-3 at the half.
Paul Johnson is ACC COY. He will still lose Saturday in an Arena League slugfest 49-45. Stafford’s swansong in Sanford.
By jeff
November 24, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
Alright guys, what happens if Oklahoma loses this weekend and Oregon State beats Oregon? Does that mean that Penn State plays for the nat’l title against the SEC champ? According to BCS “make the rules up as we go” guidelines, you can’t play for the national title unless you win your conference. But then again I’m sure that no UGA fans would remember that “non-rule / rule” ever coming into play…
By Will
November 24, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Big Tone,
I’m worried about my dawgs this weekend. I think everyone in the stadium will be nervous about our desire in this one. We could be down 28-0 in the first quarter. Something similiar to the West Virginia Sugar Bowl start. But who knows, maybe we will come out motivated.
As for all you losers who thinks the SEC is down….Here is a prediction….. Florida wins the NC with ease over Oklahoma! Guaranteed! Bama will also win an easy one in the Sugar Bowl. Will you still say the SEC is overrated then? The problem is when you losers in the Big 12 and ACC play each other your so bad, it makes your level of play look good on TV. Florida will not lose another game less than 21 points this year. NC game included.
By Anonymous
November 24, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
bigdawg01, when making fun of the academic credentials of another blogger, it helps your own credibility if you can spell d-i-p-l-o-m-a.
Play nice or fall victim to unintended i-r-o-n-y.
By dawgthabootyhunter
November 24, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Houston Nutt = coach of the year.
UF in the BCS championship game.
Nacho’s dad should have pulled out and caught him in a rag!
By IM4BAMA
November 24, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Duh, of course the winner of the SEC title game will play in the BCS.
I hope GT lays the smack down on the dogs.
I think Clemson needs somebody besides Dabo Swinney to coach there.
I knew before the OU/TT game that Leach should not coach in the SEC. WE ACTUALLY PLAY DEFENSE IN THIS LEAUGE. Finally, one team in the Big-12 played defense this year and that was OU. If Leach wants success, he should stay put right where he’s at and keep working at it. The SEC would eat him up. He could go to Washingtonm, but why?
Why would you give coach of the year honors to Nutt? He took good talent from coach O and got decent results. Saban turned Bama back into a national power and a number #1 ranking with several true freshman players starting. I ask the real fans, who is more deserving?
By Bamafan
November 24, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Houston Nutt can have the SEC coach of the year award. Nick Saban wants the state title back and SEC championship and the big one National Championship title so he make a lot of money from the crimson tide. GO SEMINOLES AND ROLL TIDE FOLKS!!!
By Florida Dawg
November 24, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
While I would like to see Houston Nutt receive Coach of the Year honors…i think Saban is on course for that. Now…if Alabama does not beat Florida, then Houston Nutt could very well win that honor. He figured out a way to beat Florida…something that most coaches don’t think is achievable. Gotta believe in Nutt.
By Elvis
November 24, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Oh, how much fun would it be if…
Oregon St beats Oregon Texas A&M beats Texas OK State beats Oklahoma Missouri beats Texas Tech FSU beats fla auburn beats bama fla beats bama in SECCG
Would USC play Penn State for the title? We learned last year that a team that does not win it’s conference can’t play. SO…how about Penn State vs. UTAH!!!!!
I would love for this whole thing to blow up again like last year!
Carnage can be fun!!
By Terry
November 24, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Good article Tony. I think Leach could win with the Vols. Peole say that the spread won’t work in the SEC, but, look at what ole Myers has done with the Gators. I’m a Bama fan, but, a realistic one. We are way ahead of schedule, which is good but, I don’t think we have the horses to stop the Gators, I hope we do, but, again realty sets in. Roll Tide.
By Atlanta Gator
November 24, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
Comments in response to Tony——
(1) Well, I certainly hope so, but the computer rankings obviously punished Florida for even setting foot on the same field as the Citadel cadets. The three human polls (including the two BCS polls) all advanced Florida to either number two or three following Oklahoma’s massacre of Texas Tech; five of the six computer dropped the Gators one or two spots. If Florida is so fortunate to beat BCS #20 Florida State and BCS#1 Alabama, may one assume that the BCS computer gods will be equally generous in ranking the Gators among the top two?
It should go without saying that Alabama should stay number one and be one of the BCS title teams if the Tide wins out.
There’s still a lot of football to play, and my team still needs to win two hard games before they can complain about anything.
(2) I saw the Tech-Miami game in person last Thursday. Tech is not nearly as dominant as the final score suggests, but the Jackets are playing with heart, enthusiasm and discipline. The Dawgs better be ready if they want to hold onto their win streak. My bet is on whoever wants it more.
(3) If Dabo Swinney becomes the permanent head coach at Clemson, it will be because none of the other desirable candidates desired the job. No rap on Swinney, but that’s the simple truth.
(4) I will repeat what I wrote the last time this subject was raised: Mike Leach would do fine at Tennessee, provided he was paired with a strong SEC defensive coordinator. SEC fans and commentators that don’t think Leach would do well at Tennessee are the same bunch that said Steve Spurrier’s fun-n-gun would never work at Florida, Urban Meyer’s spread offense would never work in the SEC, and called Paul Johnson’s triple-option a “high school offense.”
Change is good. Learn to accept new challenges, people. Life is good. : ]
(5) Hmm. Tough call. Houston Nutt has certainly done more with less when compared to all other SEC programs. His Ole Miss Rebels managed to upset the East Division winner (Florida), and played the West Division winner (Alabama) tough. The Rebels are undoubtedly the most improved SEC team this season. Nick Saban, on the other hand, has exceeded all reasonable expectations in his second year, and has his team playing for conference and national titles.
How about this——If the Tide and the Rebels both win out, I nominate Saban for national coach of the year, and Nutt for SEC coach of the year. Would that make everyone happy?
By Saban-Palin2012
November 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Only 2 out of 7 morons in this forum can spell. Barely literate comment forthcoming in 3, 2, 1…
By Monk
November 24, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
What a wonderfully civil discussion!
By Atlanta Gator
November 24, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Bamafan——Just curious why would you want Florida to lose before the Gators play Alabama? Not sure you’ve caught onto the was these BCS computer polls work, my friend. Given the strength of schedule components, you want your team’s opponents to win every game in which they are not playing your team … . On that theory, I say——
Go Tide!
Go Dawgs!
Go Dores!
Go Cocks!
Yup. I guess that makes me an SEC “homer,” huh? Just to be a little more ecumenical, I may even cheer for Miami this weekend. LOL
By John
November 24, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
If Texas and Oklahoma win their final regular season games, then Texas deserves the trip to the championship game rather than Oklahoma. The Longhorns beat the Sooners on a neutral field and narrowly lost to Texas Tech. Also, the Horns have a superlative record of victories against ranked opponents this year. With that said, I believe that Texas will fall to either Alabama or Florida for the national title.
Regarding the ACC Coach-of-the-Year, it would have likely been Butch Davis but for the humiliating defeat suffered at home against NC State. In my opinion, the leading candidates are either the BC coach or Georgia Tech.
By **The Blog Referee**
November 24, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Monk, I agree with you, but I can’t give out flags for “good sportsmanship.”
Saban-Palin2012, you’ve just been handed a yellow card. (Get your soccer fan friends to explain it to you.)
By Dawg Fud
November 24, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
FSU should have beat MD. Maryland is just plain awful.
Gators will beat the Noles.
By John
November 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Coach of the Year: I can see both arguments for Nutt and Sabin, but the fact remains that Nutt inherited a team that had won NO conference games last year and hardly any games for three years. He definitely always did more with less when he was at ungrateful Arkansas, in spite of the fact that the NCAA hobbled his recruiting there for about 4 years because of things that were alleged when Ford was head coach. Ironically, former sports information director at Arkansas, Nutt had one of the best records of any head coach in Arkansas history. Lesson is: never hire a high school coach that is sold on himself, along with what appeared to be a high school player who reportedly was quoted by an author that if they would fire Nutt he would sign with Arkansas. He signed with Arkansas and then that quote came out about the time that the player was throwing interception after interception. High school immaturity? Yes but unfortunately an out of control fan decided to rally the negatives in the fan base…and all programs unfortunately have these Sunday morning quarterbacks who seem to think that they can pop a beer and instantly know more than any pro or college coach. I vote Houston Nutt as Coach of the Year. As Saban said as he was leaving LSU, “Houston Nutt gave us more problems with less talent than any other.”
By Bamafan
November 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Good point Atlanta Gator, but its hard to pull for the gators because the seminoles are my second favorite team and i like the dawgs also. The gators will beat the seminoles and will be a 8 to 10 point favorite over the crimson tide!! Hope the gators enjoy the Sugar Bowl instead of the National Championship game!! ROLL TIDE ATLANTA GATOR!!
By Eric Zeier
November 24, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
“Georgia fans are passionate, but let’s face it…..they’re not very bright. Passionate, but not bright.” - Eric Zeier, November 21, 2001
By 1eyedJack
November 24, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Some times you feel like a Nutt….sometimes you don’t.
By 78 DAWG
November 24, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
Shut up Zeier DAWG fans have the highest average IQ of any fan base in the country, 2 Roads Scholars last year. Nobody played a tougher out of conference schedule than the DAWGS and only bad luck and bad officiating kept the DAWGS out of the NC picture. You shoulda been a gayturd since you love them so much.
By Pi$$onaDawg
November 24, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
PI$$onaDawg! Better yet, while in the SEPTIC TANK of the SOUTH SLING your GT Stinger in a Dawg’s BEER and let him drink it. A DAWG will lick it’s butt or ding-ding all day given the chance and LOVE DOING IT. CMR get some of the Flooring AD money and BUY yourself a RUG or Plugs.
By BamaBuoy
November 24, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
I love reading articles that reflect a convenient loss of memory. At the beginning of the year, most pundints predicted 7 wins for Bama because of all of the tough SEC road games, yet at 11-0 all of a sudden Bama’s success is credited to a “weak” SEC. Well, let’s see. Bama is better than last year, Florida is better than last year, Vandy is better than last year, Ole Miss is better than last year, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Arkansas have slipped, I agree, but the real reasons for people calling the SEC “weak” is that they themselves don’t want to admit that their own predictions of the darlings of LSU and Georgia to play for the SEC Championship were wayyyy off. Just fess up and bite the bullet, you were wrong, and it doesn’t necessarily mean that the SEC is weak just because 2 teams other than LSU and Georgia are competing for the National Championship this year.
By Anonymous
November 24, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
78DAWG, when you’re bragging on the academic awards received by your school and its athletes, let’s at least try to spell the most prestigious undergraduate award correctly. It’s a Rhodes scholarship, not a “Roads” scholarship. It’s named for Cecil Rhodes, and it pays for tuition and all expenses to attend Oxford for a complete degree program.
By Atlanta Gator
November 24, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
Bamafan——Given that you’re a Bama Nole fan, I absolve you of your SEC-first fan responsibilities (in this instance). Should, however, Florida be so fortunate to squeak by the Tide in the SEC CG, you will, of course, cheer for the Gators in the BCS MNC game, right?
By Scott Wallace
November 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
WTF???
By Wil Walton
November 24, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Tony, If Clemson wins against So. Carolina, that would put their record at 7-5, with 2 wins over I-AA teams. Tell me, how does 5 wins over I-A teams get a team into a bowl? (I thought it was SIX wins required)
By love the irony
November 24, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Wow, best laugh Ive had in a while. Bragging about the IQ of the bulldog fans and spelling Rhodes as “Roads”. That is too rich….
Bama has the D. They beat Florida in the SEC CG and then go on to beat Oklahoma in the NCG. Its thier year. Just like it was in 92. That defense is just too tough. Averaging giving up 12 points a game, offense averages scoring 32. Thats a recipe for winning.
By Rick
November 24, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
All you Dawg, Tiger, Vol and other SEC homers are idiots. Keep cheering for Florida while they pile up the championships, the recruits, and just keep getting better and better. Soon, no one else in the conference will be in the same class as them. That is, if anyone is now!
By Bamafan
November 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator, I will pull for the gators if they play in the national title game. Do you think that Tebow will leave after his junior year for the NFL? ROLL TIDE!!
By Cynic
November 24, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
78 DAWG:
you might want to check your academic facts before you try to sound like you know waht you’re talking about:
Of the top national universities UF is ranked 49th in 2008 in US News & World Report’s annual America’s Best Colleges issue.
16th among public institutions.
UGA? 59th.
The 2007 Academic Ranking of World Universities listed UF as 51st among all universities in the world and 38th in the US.
Uf leads public universities in enrollment of National Merit Scholars and National Achievment Scholars, second only to Harvard if you include private institutions.
Uf was second in the SEC (behind only Vanderbilt)in graduating student-athletes.
By Marco
November 24, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
If Swinney gets the Clemson job, then Clemson is more ball-less than I give them credit for. What a joke if that happens.
Fight On!
By A
November 24, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
bigdog01:
Not only are you
By A
November 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
bigdog01:
So what you’re saying is :
you are not only a sore loser puppy fan,
you’re a Half-a$$-U Semi-hole too?!!!!
By Red Elephant
November 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
I think GT wins by 10. After watching GT destroy Miami, I don’t think UGA’s DL matches up well with GT. Watch for UGA to squander a few red zone strikes. Add a few 15 yard penalties and GT breaks the streak.
By Atlanta Gator
November 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Bamafan—-I don’t think that Tim Tebow will leave for the NFL after this year. No doubt there’s an element of wishful thinking on my part. However, I do believe he’s one of those kids who enjoys the college life, and wants it to last as long as it can … Remember, he grew up 90 miles from Gainesville, cheering for the Gators, and he idolizes Danny Wuerffel to this day. Like Wuerffel said … why rush it?
Good luck with your Tiger eradication program this weekend. We Gators look forward to seeing an undefeated Tide in Atlanta in 11 days.
By bama12titles
November 24, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
Come on Tony,
I normally agree with you on a lot of points but on Nutt getting sec coach of the year over Saban you are dead wrong. How on earth can a coach whose team is now 7-4 be considered top coach over the coach of a team that is 11-0 and ranked no. 1? That’s just sheer crazy talk.
Ed Orgeron did a phenomenal job recruiting at Ole Miss. Everything was in place for Nutt when he got there, especially the addition of the highly rated qb Snead. Ole Miss the last couple years was just like Tenn. and Auburn this year. They had all the pieces except the biggest piece of all. The qb. And yes. A good qb can make all the difference in the world and having Snead instead of the plethora of terrible qbs Ed O. had to work with is the difference between night and day. I’m not knocking Nutt. He is an excellent coach and still did a great job.
But when you consider what Saban has done with very average talent and the youngest team in the country with only 9 seniors its absolutely breathtaking. A lot of people and myself especially were picking Ole Miss to be the surprise team in the west now that they finally had the qb piece to the puzzle. But who in their right mind including us Bama fans would have imagined Bama would be in the position we are in now?
Assuming we beat Auburn and finish the regular season 12-0 how on earth could you possibly deny Saban over a coach that will finish 7-5 or 8-4 at best with losses to Vandy and 2 other so so teams in Wake forest and South Carolina I think. That just aint right.
By D-Man
November 24, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
THANKS NACHOS FOR THE TIP ABOUT TYPING IN CAPS…WHEN I TYPE IN CAPS (WHICH IS RARELY), IT’S BECAUSE I WANT SOMEONE TO READ AND INJEST WHAT I AM TYPING LOUD AND CLEAR. LOOKS LIKE IT WORKED. OF COURSE IN YOUR RESPONSE YOU HAD TO INSULT ME JUST LIKE YOU DID TONY…YOU TRULY ARE A SAD, UNHAPPY PERSON. OH WELL…CAN’T HELP YOU WITH THAT. I CAN HOWEVER GIVE YOU A BIT OF ADVICE. LEAVE THE BASEMENT FROM TIME TO TIME AND LEARN TO PLAY WELL WITH OTHERS. PERHAPS THE DARK CLOUD FOLLOWING YOU AROUND WILL THEN GO AWAY. YOU TRULY ARE THE WORST OF WHAT ONLINE BLOGGING HAS TO OFFER. Have a nice day. (is that better?)
By the truth
November 24, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Hey cynic,
While I don’t dispute your newsweek stats and so forth you need to learn a little something about UFs academic policies regarding athletes. We all know that the easiest majors in college are all under sociology, poly science, and criminal justice. I forgot the general umbrella that the 3 fall under. Its anthrolopolgy dept. or something like that. If you look at UFs football team the overwhelming majority of these dumbazzes are steered into these 3 majors. Arky and Florida are the 2 worst teams in the conference when it comes to steering all the athletes into the easy majors just to get them through and keep them eligible. Its kinda like a girlfriend I had at Auburn. She was a family and child development major which is like the easiest major at Auburn. Most of her classmates were guess who? Football players.
So don’t come on here with this nonsense about how great your student athletes are when its all a crock of boolsheeeeeettt!!!
By mightyKC
November 24, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Tony With all due respect, the following stat is irrelevant/meaningless.
“Consider this early warning stat: Florida has traveled to Tallahassee five times to play the week before appearing in the SEC championship game. The Gators are 1-3-1 in those games.”
UF was 1-2 in Tally when they DID NOT have the SEC championship game following a trip to Tally (only win in 2004, the first win in Ron Zook Field since 1986). The point is, that record is more a function of UF’s futility in Tally than anything else (including when we did or did not have an SEC Champ game the following week).
UF went winless from 1986 to 2004 in Tally.
Probably a better stat is that UF has won four in a row vs. the noles (only the Swindle in the Swamp kept it from 5 in a row), and that Urban Meyer is 1-0 in Tally when he has the SECCG the following week.
But that’s OK, i know someone spewed that stat out in the last few days and everyone is jumping on it as if it means something.
By D.Ellis
November 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
78 DAWG fan-your giving the rest of us a bad rap bro. Take off your diaper and quit blaming the refs for us getting beat.
To my oter fellow DAWG fans. I pose this question.
Would we not have the most intresting non BCS bowl game if we beat TECh on the 29th????
How awesome would it be to match up with basically the BIG 10’s most dominate team for the better part of the last decade.
What a game that would be!!!!!
Good luck to all the Bama fans and Gator fans this week. May you both enter the most prized BOWL game…yes I said I called it a bowl game but anyway…good luck…hope both your teams pull it out/stay healthy and make the SECCG the best game it can be..you guys deserve it!
AS ALWAYS GOOOOOOOOO DAWGS!!!
By Got 12?
November 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Tebow will definitely be back for his senior year. He’s always loved the Gators and is seemingly enjoying himself right now. Add to that the fact that he will be a tight end in the NFL and there’s no doubt he’ll be back next year.
By GT Girl
November 24, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
One Division 1-AA win counts toward bowl eligibility. So, if Clemson beats SC, that gives them 6 wins to be bowl eligible (5 1-A and 1 1-AA).
On a side note, the SEC and ACC are currently tied for the number of bowl eligible teams. However, the ACC has 3 playing for eligibility this weekend, with the SEC only having one (Auburn)…
By G8R GRAD
November 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
love the irony:
UF’s average game scores equal 46!
While holding their opponents to the same average as the Tide (12).
Do the math:
GATORS BY TWO TOUCHDOWNS
By TRUTH BE KNOWN
November 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
No question about it. Tech and UGA are definitely 2 programs heading in different directions. After Tech dismantled an improving Miami team its readily apparent that they will shred the UGA defense. The last time UGA played a high powered running attack featuring a running qb was West Virginia. 366 rushing yards later the mountaineers had ran over, around, and through the dawg D. History repeats itself and not even Stafford can save the dawgs. Tech by 10 pts 38-28.
By Carolina Jacket
November 24, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
With UGA having a week off and the better athletes, they should win, even if it is hard fought. But if Tech can put pressure on Stafford, hold THEIR penalties and turnovers down, and … get some breaks, they might just pull it off. Hopefully, it will be a close one, regardless of the final results.
By Anchorman
November 24, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Actually, Nutt inherited considerable talent from Ed Orgeron. It was Orgeron who inherited zero talent from David Cutcliffe and the next 3 seasons were like being on probation! Can Nutt sustain the momentum at Ole Miss? You bet!
By Elvis
November 24, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
Hey Anonymous,
The RHODES is actually for only 2 years. It is not for “a complete degree program”.
If the Rhodes is a leading indicator, then I would say FSU now has the smartest football players.
Slick Willie kinda took some of the shine off that award for some…
Back to football…to heck with the conference.
Go Oregon State!
Go Texas A&M!
Go FSU!
Go Auburn!
Go Oklahoma State!
Go Missouri!
We want to see Utah vs Penn State!!!!!
By Nachos
November 24, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
thank you for poiting that out about the caps D-Man. you are obviously alot smarter than i am. you must be a proud uga grad.
By Nachos
November 24, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
dawgthebountyhunter - thank you for your comment. you are the defintion of a classy georgia football fan.
By Scott Wallace
November 24, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
“Unleash the Nachos”
By Hey Elvis and The Rest
November 24, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
OK to you Homers who don’t understand the PAC 10. If USC and Oregon State both win out they are CO-CHAMPIONS. The head to head matchup is only to determine who goes to the Rose Bowl. AGAIN for you who are slow to understand this, IF USC WINS AGAINST UCLA THEY ARE PAC 10 CHAMPIONS AS WELL AS OREGON STATE THUS CO-CHAMPIONS. So to answer all of you who are so scared you may have to face USC in the NC; if they are ranked #2 you should be worried, they will play and they will win the BCS.
By Brink
November 24, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
You are hilarious GTMike, it’s hard to stop laughing … the SEC is third behind the ACC ??? If I can read the SEC is 4-3 (and will most likely end up 7-3) against the ACC through 11/22. The SEC has BCS spots 1, 4, and 11 while the powerhouse ACC has 21, 22, and 23. Keep dreaming GTMike.
Oh, btw SC Rules!!!, Do a bit of research before you attribute quotes (“There’s only three things …”). The statement is generally attributed to 4 coaches, Woody Hayes (Ohio State), Darrell Royal (Texas), Robert Neyland (Tennessee), and Duffy Daugherty (Michigan State) but there is no definitive proof for any of them. Don’t see a Bear Bryant in there anywhere.
Royal was cited by the New York Times (9 Jan 1964) “Royal Is Chosen Coach of Year,” pg. 24: Royal’s teams stress defense and a running rather than a passing offense. He has said three things can happen when a team throws a pass—one good, two bad.
“You complete the pass, that’s good,” he repeated yesterday. “You don’t complete it, that’s bad. Or the other team intercepts it and that’s very bad.”
By Right Anonymous
November 24, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Correct Anonymous. And I’m sure Dawg78 would appreciate the fact the Pres. Bill Clinton received the honor, one of our best educated presidents. Yale, Georgetown University, and Oxford.
By Brink
November 24, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
Utah vs Penn State ….. yawn, ‘scuse me
By Anonymous
November 24, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Elvis, the Rhodes scholarship is initially awarded for either one or two years, but is renewable for up to a total of three years upon satisfactory completion of academic work. Recipients may matriculate for a second undergraduate degree (British bachelor’s degrees are usually completed in three years) or an advanced degree (most US and UK master’s are completed in two years).
Notwithstanding, Bill Clinton’s association with the Rhodes, it is still prestigious, and it is still a Big Deal. In fact, I’m not really sure how Big Bill even qualified, given that athletic prowess is one of the criteria. Bill was a band geek, not a varsity athlete (go figure).
BTW, I can’t believe I’m debating non-football points with the now-deceased King of Rock ‘n’ Roll. How about an autograph for the kids?
By Atlanta Gator
November 24, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
the truth——I would love to see you produce those statistics regarding all of the Florida varsity athletes majoring in political science, sociology and criminology … . I was a UAA (UF athletic department) tutor for two years while I was in grad school. My subjects included micro and macroeconomics, finance, calculus and statistics. I tutored current and future business majors during those two years, and the vast majority were pretty damn squared away. The handful that weren’t didn’t last four years.
While there were some sociology and criminology majors, there were virtually no poli sci majors. The hard-luck academic types were usually encouraged to major in food and resource economics (in the agriculture college), not because it was an easy major, but because it had a low minimum admissions GPA (about 2.4).
By Dogbyte
November 24, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
I’m glad to see that while some of these folks are as dumb as a clump of peat moss, they so seem to understand that Ga. vs Tech is THE game, for both schools. No matter how many w(s) you might have, if you don’t win this one the season ain’t s—t! On the other hand, if you don’t win but one and it is this one, the season ain’t a loss. GDTHWT!!!
By SC Rules!!!
November 24, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
Brink,
Oh, btw SC Rules!!!, Do a bit of research before you attribute quotes (“There’s only three things …”). The statement is generally attributed to 4 coaches, Woody Hayes (Ohio State), Darrell Royal (Texas), Robert Neyland (Tennessee), and Duffy Daugherty (Michigan State) but there is no definitive proof for any of them. Don’t see a Bear Bryant in there anywhere.
It is in the book about Coach Bryant: (Aint nothin but a winner)
supposed mis quote. Now that being said, I didn’t say he was the only one who ever said just that he did.
Fight On!! USC Trojans #1!!!!!!
By Josh Payne
November 24, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this
Ya’ll better not mess with Nachos…
By ACC Stinks
November 24, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this
Tony,
Where do you have the acc “chumpion” going? Would that be the Blue Carpet or the Nut Bowl in San Francisco? Will either of these bowls be willing to accept an acc “pretty good” team?
By PIGSken
November 24, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
SHAME ON YOU TONY B!
I rush home from church every Sunday night to watch your show on CSS. I have been APALLED the last 3 weeks that Mark Schlabach lambasts Alabama while yourself, and Tennessee Martin sit in silence. Bob Neil is the only one who has given Bama kudos and he predicted the Tide to be the surprise team in the West and he was dead on.
It is so obvious that T.Martin in biased for UT, Schlabach for UF, and you Tony for UGA. Hey man…if you are going to be a host on a major college football show…swallow you pride and give CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE!!!
I want to see your face along with Tee and Schlabach when Bama pummels the Gators. Shlabach sports a Bear Bryant hat…you give Saban coach of year honors (oh, sorry you’ve already promoted Houston Nutt for that) and Tee wears a Bama jersey. No chance it happens, huh Tony?
By WHAT IF..?
November 24, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this
What if Florida State upsets the Gators and then Florida beats Bama, they will be 11-2 and won’t jump anybody.…Tony !
By AUBURN is not a gimmee game
November 24, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this
Is Auburn -MAN ENOUGH- to beat Alabama for the -7th- time in a row?
By Rusty Pecker
November 25, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this
BAMA wants revenge. They will be fired up Saturday.
By AltamahaDawg
November 25, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this
What on God’s grean earth makes you think that you need to preach to the Georgia team, that they can’t just hope that they get by and not take tech seriously?
By Pi$$onaDawg
November 25, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
You haven’t been readin these BLOGS long if you think a Tech Fan spelled Rhoades as Roads Scholar. The UGA fans used ROADS SCHOLAR back in September and that is why Tech people now spell it that to show the IQ of UGA fans. GT has no RHOADS SCHOLARS but UGA had 2 or 3 last year and they were trying to poke fun at GT while mispelling the NAME. GET IN GET OUT SUX A$$ SHUT UP if you don’t know the LINGO & CONTENT don’t comment.
By MoDawg
November 25, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Pi$$onaDawg
I can always count on your random posts for a good laugh…
the one above “By Pi$$onaDawg November 24, 2008 12:55 PM ” still has me laughing…
By HUGH HOSCH
November 29, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
DUMP WILLY MARTINEZ!